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Alec Baldwin kills one and injures another with possible movie set prop gun shooting gone bad.
After movie "The Crow" that killed Brandon Lee you have to wonder how a prop gun would still shoot a projectile that can kill.
Woman killed was director of photography and man injured is a director.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/21/entertainment/rust-film-accident/index.html
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https://abc7.com/rust-alec-baldwin-movie-set-shooting-accident/11152944/?fbclid=IwAR0bHFLe9yGfpp2xLDNAnJ5rwItqN6xjq1rEIsJIwXDZGs7nxOUsj9GFIqo
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Feel bad for everyone involved, that's a horrible situation.
It will be interesting when they map out how it happened. I wonder how badly the second person was injured, if it was the usual blank accident, it probably wouldn't have the power to hurt two people.
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The four basic safety rules should apply to every situation, movie set or not.
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/alec-baldwin-rust-movie-incident-1235035095/ -
"The second victim was the film’s director, Joel Souza, 48, who was taken by ambulance to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center. He was in critical condition, "
Wow. Film looks lower budget, I wonder if they were skimping on the prop masters, etc.....
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“Treat every weapon as if it were loaded, even after ensuring it to be unloaded”
“Keep your finger straight off the trigger, outside the trigger guard, weapon on safe until you’re up on the target with the intension to shoot”
None of even these two most important rules were followed. Who’s fault on the set was that?
There were live rounds
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“Treat every weapon as if it were loaded, even after ensuring it to be unloaded”
“Keep your finger straight off the trigger, outside the trigger guard, weapon on safe until you’re up on the target with the intension to shoot”
None of even these two most important rules were followed. Who’s fault on the set was that?
There were live rounds
Alec Baldwin is the producer of the movie as well. The elephant in the room is...how do you shoot TWO people with a gun that shoots blanks?
Was this a classic Alec Baldwin rage moment?
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Two with one shot? Baldwin will need serious therapy for a while. Michael Massee, who shot Brandon Lee, was a wreck for a while after The Crow.
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Now that are some unexpected news.
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"Deadline previously heard from sources that a principal castmember cocked a gun during a rehearsal, unaware that there were live rounds in it, hitting two people, a man and a woman. The man was hit in the shoulder, while the woman was airlifted to the hospital for stomach surgery."
https://deadline.com/2021/10/female-crewmember-dies-on-new-mexico-set-of-alec-baldwin-film-rust-1234860416/ .
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Is this fake news?
Man...I treat AIRSOFT GUNS as if they were real guns.
Maybe that's a habit retained from my army training...or maybe that's just common sense. Possibly something those with Trump Derangement Syndrome don't have.
Didn't Hollywood learn from The Crow??
Or is this fake news? Definitely the most surprising news I've heard this year - and nothing surprises me anymore over these past 19 or so months.
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I hate alec Baldwin, a real POS
Would have been better if it was the other way around and he was shot instead
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Who knew?
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Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Crew Member With Prop Firearm on Film Set, Authorities Say
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2021 | Alyssa Lukpat and Michael Levenson
Posted on 10/22/2021, 2:17:00 AM by grundle
Alec Baldwin discharged a prop firearm on the set of a Western he was making in New Mexico on Thursday, killing the film’s director of photography and wounding the movie’s director, the authorities said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Lock him up !
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" EXCLUSIVE It was one bullet that discharged from the prop gun on the Santa Fe movie “Rust” and killed the director of photography and wounded the movie’s director.
An eyewitness on set tells this column that the bullet went straight through the body of DP Halyna Hutchins and into the clavicle of the film’s director Joel Souza.
Very quickly the set was locked down. Ambulance and helicopters arrived. Hutchins and Souza were sent straight to the hospital. Hutchins died en route in a helicopter.
On the ground, Baldwin was in shock but composed. He kept asking why he was handed a “hot gun.” Our eyewitness said Baldwin kept saying “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”
“A hot gun” means a gun with real ammunition.
Baldwin, not knowing the fate of the victims, was taken immediately to the hospital. “He had no idea how badly they were hurt or Halyna was dead.”
“Rust” is a Tier 1 one movie, meaning it was being produced for under $6 million. Our source says: “They had safety meetings every day but it was a Tier I movie, so they probably didn’t have more than 1 prop person.” According to the imdb, there was one key medic on the staff and two stunt people.
Whatever happened on the set, Alec Baldwin certainly didn’t intend for this outcome. And “Rust” is done. Sources say the production has been halted but as with the movie about Gregg Allman’s life, in which a crew member was killed because of negligence, lawsuits will now override any chance to that movie being finished. "
www.showbiz411.com/2021/10/22/exclusive-eyewitness-recounts-shooting-on-alec-baldwin-movie-set-one-bullet-ripped-through-both-victims .
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Feel bad for everyone involved, that's a horrible situation.
It will be interesting when they map out how it happened. I wonder how badly the second person was injured, if it was the usual blank accident, it probably wouldn't have the power to hurt two people.
I read he was hit in the shoulder
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Even a gun with blanks can seriously injure someone if fired in close range.
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Good on him. I hate Alec Baldwin and hopefully this consumes him till he offs himself but prob won’t even give a fuck.
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Alec blamed the 45th President for secretly loading the gun
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I would seriously curb stomp his face in, him and David schwimmer
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Hopefully the fuck face tastes some lead in the near future,
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Not gonna lie. I laughed.
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Feel bad for everyone involved, that's a horrible situation.
It will be interesting when they map out how it happened. I wonder how badly the second person was injured, if it was the usual blank accident, it probably wouldn't have the power to hurt two people.
These motherfuckers want to take everyone’s guns yet every movie they make always has the “hero” carrying a gun.
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How do 2 non actors get shot on set? Baldwin must have been fucking off. How do these accidents happen after the Crow incident? Does no one check these weapons for safety? So many questions.
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Bruce Lee's son was killed with a real gun. If I got the facts straight it was a revolver with shells loaded with primers with a light charge so it goes bang. In the cylinder were unloaded bullets so it would look loaded from the front when filmed. The bullets were launched by the primers probably only going about 300 feet per second but had enough juice to kill at close range. The movie firearm tech is responsible for that one.
Why were they using a real gun on the set of Baldwin in this day and age? They can add flash with CGI and use added sound? Why was he pointing the gun at a camera woman and the director? So many questions.
One of the most important rules of gun safety is to treat a firearm as if it was loaded even after you unload it. Always keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction even if unloaded. Keep your finger off the trigger until you want to shoot it even if unloaded unless you are dry firing in a safe direction. I like to pretend an invisible laser beam is coming out of the barrel so it makes me conscious of where the barrel is pointed loaded and unloaded. That way the barrel never crosses my person or someone else.
One thing is true is that even blanks are dangerous short range. Some blanks have cardboard wadcutter type covering instead of a bullet but at close range they are launched at a velocity powerful enough to penetrate.
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These motherfuckers want to take everyone’s guns yet every movie they make always has the “hero” carrying a gun.
Exactly,
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Maybe Alec Baldwin was staging an anti-American insurrection or terrorism. "He should serve his sentence in Angola, Rikers, or some horrible sh1thole prison. Make some special arrangements. You know, to really open his eyes."
Alec Baldwin killed more people than his would-be "insurrectionists". He tied the Capitol police in executions, though.
Will "going postal" be replaced with "going Baldwin"....
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Is this fake news?
Man...I treat AIRSOFT GUNS as if they were real guns.
Maybe that's a habit retained from my army training...or maybe that's just common sense. Possibly something those with Trump Derangement Syndrome don't have.
Didn't Hollywood learn from The Crow??
Or is this fake news? Definitely the most surprising news I've heard this year - and nothing surprises me anymore over these past 19 or so months.
Joy Behar?
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Wonder if Alec still wonders...
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He must not have liked his coworkers....
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Sounds like negligent manslaughter to me. Baldwin should be charged.
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I saw a recent Netflix documentary with Alec Balwin in it on John Delorean where he plays Delorean for parts of it. There's a scene in the movie where Alec is talking to his real life wife and telling her what he's doing. It's obvious from that scene that he is no longer and A list actor, not even B list. He's taking what ever rolls pay the bills now.
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I saw a recent Netflix documentary with Alec Balwin in it on John Delorean where he plays Delorean for parts of it. There's a scene in the movie where Alec is talking to his real life wife and telling her what he's doing. It's obvious from that scene that he is no longer and A list actor, not even B list. He's taking what ever rolls pay the bills now.
Same with Deniro. He has a huge nut that he hast to cover every month so he takes shitty movie roles when he obviously would prefer to just be retired.
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Alec seems to be in some serious back pain all the time.
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Wonder if Alec still wonders...
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He must not have liked his coworkers....
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Gesh
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He is the producer of the movie, the primary actor, on set shooting the gun at people ... and doesn't know why things are the way they are.
He is 100% liable and will be sued into oblivion.
The insurance agent that covered this nutcase knew better and is probably on a ledge somewhere.
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He is the producer of the movie, the primary actor, on set shooting the gun at people ... and doesn't know why things are the way they are.
He is 100% liable and will be sued into oblivion.
The insurance agent that covered this nutcase knew better and is probably on a ledge somewhere.
What about criminal charges?
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What about criminal charges?
Involuntary manslaughter in New Mexico is 18 month sentence. Whether he would be convicted is another story.
If new info came out from the crew that he was being a raving lunatic when it happened then maybe his other well documented tendencies toward violence would sway someone to do something.
I doubt it.
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Hollyweird libs not knowing simple gun safety? I’m shocked. I hope he gets the gas chamber.
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Same with Deniro. He has a huge nut that he hast to cover every month so he takes shitty movie roles when he obviously would prefer to just be retired.
What is the source of the huge nut, Alamony?
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he will be fine, it will go down as a covid death...
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Alec seems to be in some serious back pain all the time.
He looked and acted old in the Delorean movie. Even though he had makeup on he looked even older than Delorean. He never should have taken a bit role in a Netflix documentary. It just made him look desperate and washed up. He'll probably be doing commercials for mid day television soon. Maybe for the psychic network.
Although I will say I liked the movie and would recommend watching it as well as the other Delorean documentary on Netflixs.
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I feel bad for the guy. I really do.
Everyone knows about The Crow incident, but you wouldn't believe how often this happens on movie sets. Bizarre, actually.
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Ban prop guns.
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He looked and acted old in the Delorean movie. Even though he had makeup on he looked even older than Delorean. He never should have taken a bit role in a Netflix documentary. It just made him look desperate and washed up. He'll probably be doing commercials for mid day television soon. Maybe for the psychic network.
Although I will say I liked the movie.
He was doing Capital One ads with his eye lift 10 years ago.
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https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/prop-gun-used-by-alec-baldwin-in-shooting-contained-live-round-union/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=com.duckduckgo.mobile.ios.OpenAction2
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Amazing how people and the media are already mobing to lynch the guy without a trial.
We returned to tribal times.
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Who loaded the gun? Why was he playing with it? Why was he pointing it at not just actors but pointing it in general?
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Who loaded the gun? Why was he playing with it? Why was he pointing it at not just actors but pointing it in general?
There's just no way it should have happened (and of course there should be no live rounds). Maybe it was a freak shot.
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What is the source of the huge nut, Alamony?
Bingo
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Bingo
Wow, I wonder how many ex wives Eric Roberts must have
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Involuntary manslaughter in New Mexico is 18 month sentence. Whether he would be convicted is another story.
If new info came out from the crew that he was being a raving lunatic when it happened then maybe his other well documented tendencies toward violence would sway someone to do something.
I doubt it.
I doubt he will get in much trouble. They will find a way to make it someone else fault.
I'm just confused as to why a live loaded firearm was on set.
He deserves to be liable for this 100%.
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Bingo
Robert De Niro's lawyer says the actor is being 'forced to work' to pay for his ex-wife's luxury lifestyle
By Zac Ntim
Robert De Niro's lawyer said the actor is being forced to work at an unsustainable pace and accept every role he is offered regardless of artistic quality to finance his estranged wife's luxury lifestyle.
De Niro and actress Grace Hightower first married in 1997. The pair split in 1999, and then renewed their vows in 2004 before the actor officially filed for divorce in 2018. In a virtual divorce hearing held last Friday, Page Six reported that De Niro's attorney, Caroline Krauss, told a New York judge that the actor is struggling to keep pace with his workload.
"Mr. De Niro is 77 years old, and while he loves his craft, he should not be forced to work at this prodigious pace because he has to," Krauss said. "When does that stop? When does he get the opportunity to not take every project that comes along and not work six-day weeks, 12-hour days so he can keep pace with Ms. Hightower's thirst for Stella McCartney?"
https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4 (https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4)
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Same with Deniro. He has a huge nut that he hast to cover every month so he takes shitty movie roles when he obviously would prefer to just be retired.
Funny you should say that, as I just read that he barely made it out alive from a prenuptial he had signed with his ex-wife back in 2004. This gorgeous woman was his wife from 1997-2018.
https://pagesix.com/2021/10/21/de-niros-estranged-wife-wont-get-half-of-his-acting-income-appeals-court/ (https://pagesix.com/2021/10/21/de-niros-estranged-wife-wont-get-half-of-his-acting-income-appeals-court/)
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Speaking of which, he has always had a thing for fine black women, look at Diahnne Abbott (his first wife from 1976-1988):
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Robert De Niro's lawyer says the actor is being 'forced to work' to pay for his ex-wife's luxury lifestyle
By Zac Ntim
Robert De Niro's lawyer said the actor is being forced to work at an unsustainable pace and accept every role he is offered regardless of artistic quality to finance his estranged wife's luxury lifestyle.
De Niro and actress Grace Hightower first married in 1997. The pair split in 1999, and then renewed their vows in 2004 before the actor officially filed for divorce in 2018. In a virtual divorce hearing held last Friday, Page Six reported that De Niro's attorney, Caroline Krauss, told a New York judge that the actor is struggling to keep pace with his workload.
"Mr. De Niro is 77 years old, and while he loves his craft, he should not be forced to work at this prodigious pace because he has to," Krauss said. "When does that stop? When does he get the opportunity to not take every project that comes along and not work six-day weeks, 12-hour days so he can keep pace with Ms. Hightower's thirst for Stella McCartney?"
https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4 (https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4)
Presented for context. Strong chin.
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Goofy libcuck gets the financial dominatrix he wanted.
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Alec , should have pointed his gun at all of his brothers, then turned it on himself.
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Alec , should have pointed his gun at all of his brothers, then turned it on himself.
My god man, what's wrong with you today?
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My god man, what's wrong with you today?
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Im I gonna get cancelled now?
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DeNiro is no Getbigger since he dates way less than 11s.
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Deniro must be a masochist.
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Don't forget this gem! This is a proper meltdown.
EDIT: SEEMS YOUTUBE IS BLOCKING?
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Funny you should say that, as I just read that he barely made it out alive from a prenuptial he had signed with his ex-wife back in 2004. This gorgeous woman was his wife from 1997-2018.
https://pagesix.com/2021/10/21/de-niros-estranged-wife-wont-get-half-of-his-acting-income-appeals-court/ (https://pagesix.com/2021/10/21/de-niros-estranged-wife-wont-get-half-of-his-acting-income-appeals-court/)
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Speaking of which, he has always had a thing for fine black women, look at Diahnne Abbott (his first wife from 1976-1988):
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If only she had stayed married then with DeNiro's support she could have ended up the governess of Georgia. Her loss.
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I saw a recent Netflix documentary with Alec Balwin in it on John Delorean where he plays Delorean for parts of it. There's a scene in the movie where Alec is talking to his real life wife and telling her what he's doing. It's obvious from that scene that he is no longer and A list actor, not even B list. He's taking what ever rolls pay the bills now.
Was it that bad acting?
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Was it that bad acting?
There's a scene where he's on the phone with his real life wife telling her about the movie he's shooting and it's obvious he's just taking the role for the paycheck. This isn't some Hollywood blockbuster. It might as well just be a TV commercial for for all the enthusiasm he has for it. I think Delorean was a better actor than Alec Baldwin and the reality is everything about Deorean was an act.
A and B list actors don't just take a role for a paycheck. They have the ability to be picky. Notice how old and over the hill he looks here.
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There's a scene where he's on the phone with his real life wife telling her about the movie he's shooting and it's obvious he's just taking the role for the paycheck. This isn't some Hollywood blockbuster. It might as well just be a TV commercial for for all the enthusiasm he has for it. I think Delorean was a better actor than Alec Baldwin and the reality is everything about Deorean was an act.
A and B list actors don't just take a role for a paycheck. They have the ability to be picky. Notice how old and over the hill he looks here.
I actually liked this movie.
As to the incident. Is it confirmed it was a live round? Brandon Lee was killed because the packing from the first blank was stuck in the chamber, and when the second blank was fired it propelled it into him like a real bullet. If it was an accident that truly wasn’t caused by him being a jackass, I truly feel bad for him as well as the other victims.
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This is horrible and I hate to see things like this happen. I feel badly for everyone involved including Alec Baldwin (whom I despise).
I'd also like to add that Alec Baldwin and Robert DeNiro are two pieces of shit and they can go fuck themselves.
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Robert De Niro's lawyer says the actor is being 'forced to work' to pay for his ex-wife's luxury lifestyle
By Zac Ntim
Robert De Niro's lawyer said the actor is being forced to work at an unsustainable pace and accept every role he is offered regardless of artistic quality to finance his estranged wife's luxury lifestyle.
De Niro and actress Grace Hightower first married in 1997. The pair split in 1999, and then renewed their vows in 2004 before the actor officially filed for divorce in 2018. In a virtual divorce hearing held last Friday, Page Six reported that De Niro's attorney, Caroline Krauss, told a New York judge that the actor is struggling to keep pace with his workload.
"Mr. De Niro is 77 years old, and while he loves his craft, he should not be forced to work at this prodigious pace because he has to," Krauss said. "When does that stop? When does he get the opportunity to not take every project that comes along and not work six-day weeks, 12-hour days so he can keep pace with Ms. Hightower's thirst for Stella McCartney?"
https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4 (https://www.insider.com/personal-finance/robert-de-niro-lawyer-says-forced-to-work-ex-wife-2021-4)
Strugglin' to give a shit, if I'm honest.
"Acting" isn't work. Anyone who thinks "acting" is work is an obvious pickle smoocher.
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How do 2 non actors get shot on set? Baldwin must have been fucking off. How do these accidents happen after the Crow incident? Does no one check these weapons for safety? So many questions.
Exactly the question no one in the liberal media is asking.
It’s not like he’s shooting a scene and is pointing the gun at a fellow actor for the film.
He’s clearly pointing a gun at the director and then PULLING THE TRIGGER.
I’m pretty sure at one point Alec Baldwin said he could shoot someone in the middle of Times Square and get away with it.
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Strugglin' to give a shit, if I'm honest.
"Acting" isn't work. Anyone who thinks "acting" is work is an obvious pickle smoocher.
There is no excuse for Robert Deniro to need money at this age. He made plenty of it and he should have more than enough regardless of how many wives he's had.
If he mismanaged all that money then it's his own fault.
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Exactly the question no one in the liberal media is asking.
It’s not like he’s shooting a scene and is pointing the gun at a fellow actor for the film.
He’s clearly pointing a gun at the director and then PULLING THE TRIGGER.
I’m pretty sure at one point Alec Baldwin said he could shoot someone in the middle of Times Square and get away with it.
He almost certainly won't be charged with anything.
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How anyone could feel sorry for Baldwin is beyond me as he is a producer on the film. With the sheer amount of scenes firing guns in movies, to not be prepared for any and all safety risks is absurd. I am in the process right now of exercising my 2nd amendment right to buy a handgun here in CA and you have to pass a firearm safety exam, and in prepping for the exam it mentions CONSTANTLY that you always treat a firearm as if it is loaded, even if the magazine is out, even if the chamber seems not loaded, even if the safety is on, etc. And the media is just plain LYING calling this a "prop" gun. Just like in the Brandon Lee case, these are REAL guns who have a firearm "expert" often prepare blanks from live rounds. An average citizen would be in commission of a crime here in Cali if a real gun, even unloaded, was not in a secure safe or lockbox with any and all ammunition in a separate location. They wave them around film sets and no one says shit.
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How anyone could feel sorry for Baldwin is beyond me as he is a producer on the film. With the sheer amount of scenes firing guns in movies, to not be prepared for any and all safety risks is absurd. I am in the process right now of exercising my 2nd amendment right to buy a handgun here in CA and you have to pass a firearm safety exam, and in prepping for the exam it mentions CONSTANTLY that you always treat a firearm as if it is loaded, even if the magazine is out, even if the chamber seems not loaded, even if the safety is on, etc. And the media is just plain LYING calling this a "prop" gun. Just like in the Brandon Lee case, these are REAL guns who have a firearm "expert" often prepare blanks from live rounds. An average citizen would be in commission of a crime here in Cali if a real gun, even unloaded, was not in a secure safe or lockbox with any and all ammunition in a separate location. They wave them around film sets and no one says shit.
The film is being shot in New Mexico but what you said is dead on. There is no reason they ever need to point a gun at anyone on set anyway. Most movies will show a gun being fired and then the victim falling in another separate frame. Most westerns and cop movies are shot this way. The "victim" being shot is never actually in any danger because the gun is never really pointed at him.
The fact that 2 non actors were shot is even more bizarre because there is no reason ever for someone to be pointing a gun at staff on set. Who in the Hell is supervising this set? The director should be fired immediately. There had to be some horsing around going on.
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The film is being shot in New Mexico but what you said is dead on. There is no reason they ever need to point a gun at anyone on set anyway. Most movies will show a gun being fired and then the victim falling in another separate frame. Most westerns and cop movies are shot this way. The "victim" being shot is never actually in any danger because the gun is never really pointed at him.
The fact that 2 non actors were shot is even more bizarre because there is no reason ever for someone to be pointing a gun at staff on set. Who in the Hell is supervising this set? The director should be fired immediately. There had to be some horsing around going on.
He was fired at. :D
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He was fired at. :D
And hit. I meant to say he should be fired IF HE LIVES.
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Deniro must love long toenails and the smell of Shea Butter.
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And hit. I meant to say he should be fired IF HE LIVES.
I think it could have been horsing around, like you said. The whole scenario seems similar to the John Erik Hexum incident where Hexum, in jest, accidentally shot himself to death, except with a gun loaded with 'blanks'.
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“Treat every weapon as if it were loaded, even after ensuring it to be unloaded”
“Keep your finger straight off the trigger, outside the trigger guard, weapon on safe until you’re up on the target with the intension to shoot”
None of even these two most important rules were followed. Who’s fault on the set was that?
There were live rounds
Alec Baldwin is the producer of the movie as well. The elephant in the room is...how do you shoot TWO people with a gun that shoots blanks?
I would say that probably the cinematographer and director were standing close together and the action called for the actor to point the gun toward the camera and pull the trigger.
It wouldn't have to be real bullets if debris from previous takes were in the barrel...
I would say that it was an "industrial accident"
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Alec Baldwin, liberal cock-sucker that he is, can fuck off and spend the rest of his shitty life in prison.
Let’s Go Brandon!
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When does the flick hit theatres?
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The plot thickens:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and pay, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
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Th plot thickens:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off ran away zig zagging and side stepping off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and pay, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
fixed
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HA HA HA HA HA .....legit LOL ! :D
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Oofffaaa.
Th plot thickens:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and pay, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
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His politics are obviously disgusting, but I still have listened to his podcast.
For all the experience in the industry he is an actor and not cut out to run the whole operation.
He has said before he isn’t really cut out for directing on his podcast only doing it a little bit to try it in the past.
He is has the common ignorant liberal/socialist attitude of wrongfully demonizing people and then being cavalier with a deadly weapon.
No matter how it happened there needs to be breakdown on his part to let this happen.
This could haunt him going forward.
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Im I gonna get cancelled now?
Of course not. Just seemed unlike you're usual happy self.
You've never wished death upon anyone.
Hope all is well.
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Rust
Directed by Joel Souza
Screenplay by Joel Souza
Story by
Joel Souza
Alec Baldwin
Produced by
Alec Baldwin
Matt DelPiano
Ryan Donnell Smith
Anjul Nigam
Ryan Winterstern
Nathan Klingher
Starring
Alec Baldwin
Travis Fimmel
Brady Noon
Frances Fisher
Jensen Ackles
Cinematography Halyna Hutchins†
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(upcoming_film) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(upcoming_film))
Both the Director and Cinematographer were shot.
Good explanation of what a Producer does.
Alec probably had a sizeable amount of his own money bankrolling this film and it almost seems like he was buying himself a job in a leading roll.
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Rust in Peace
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Too soon?
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Of course not. Just seemed unlike you're usual happy self.
You've never wished death upon anyone.
Hope all is well.
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It was meant as a joke. He's got like 3 or 4 brothers. Each dumber than the next, with careers to match.
It's like that movie: "Multiplicity", starring Michael Keaton.
Where a guy continues to clone himself, and each one is worse than the previous clone.
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Rust in Peace
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Too soon?
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Just in time.
That was him a few days ago:
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Reading about this more, I’m not so sure Alec realizes the gravity of the situation and what it means for him. We’ll see how it unfolds.
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Good explanation of what a Producer does.
Alec probably had a sizeable amount of his own money bankrolling this film and it almost seems like he was buying himself a job in a leading roll.
A producer's job is usually not to murder the cinematographer.
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Reading about this more, I’m not so sure Alec realizes the gravity of the situation and what it means for him. We’ll see how it unfolds.
Civil suit wise? He will probably take it up the ass.
Negligent homicide would be the worst he gets, unless an investigation proves that it was premeditated. He will probably be able to plea down the criminal side, if he is even charged at all.
Again pending investigation, he will probably lose a civil case, but then he will declare bankruptcy, or settle out of court.
It all looks great on paper.....Alec Baldwin, loses civil case to the tune of 200 million. Usually, the families never see a fraction of what the verdict was. All a dog and pony show.
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A producer's job is usually not to murder the cinematographer.
This is true. Directors and Cinematographers are kind of important when making a movie and it's usually frowned upon for a Producer to shoot them.
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It keeps getting worse -
" A week before a tragic on-set shooting accident involving Alec Baldwin would claim the life of one crew member and injure another, his co-star Jensen Ackles discussed his weapons training for the film, Rust, while at a fan convention.
The 43-year-old was at a Denver event for Supernatural, his former long-running CW show, when he told the crowd about a big 'shootout' he had the next morning for his upcoming film.
A day prior, Rust star Alec Baldwin accidentally killed Halyna Hutchins, a 42-year-old married mother-of-two and the Director of Photography on his new movie on a ranch in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and injured the director in a gun mishap.
'I've got a 6 AM call tomorrow to have a big shootout,' Ackles was heard saying in a video captured by a fan. 'They had me pick my gun, they were like, "Alright, what gun would you like?" and I was like, "I don't know?" and the armorer was like, "Do you have gun experience?"'
'I was like, "A little." And she's like, "Okay, well, this is how you load it, this is how we check it and make sure it's safe."'
'So she's like, 'I'll just put some blanks in there and just fire a couple of rounds towards the hill.'
'I walk out and she's like, 'Just make sure you pull the hammer all the way back and aim at your target'.
Demonstrating how he did it in training, Jensen said he whipped the gun out of his holster and expertly fired the weapon, leading the armorer to jokingly call him 'an a**hole' for pretending like he was inexperienced. "
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10121455/Jensen-Ackles-spoke-gun-training-Rust-Alec-Baldwin-killed-cinematographer.html
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This is true. Directors and Cinematographers are kind of important when making a movie and it's usually frowned upon for a Producer to shoot them.
;D
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Reading about this more, I’m not so sure Alec realizes the gravity of the situation and what it means for him. We’ll see how it unfolds.
Now that it’s coming out that there were crew members complaining of terrible conditions it’s hard to imagine there won’t be some type of criminal charges filed.
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Just in time.
That was him a few days ago:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCU9stxXEAMHfXX?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Wow!! I wonder after this if he’ll have a change of heart? I’m not counting on it but at least a little enlightenment. Or will he blame it on the gun? Lol
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The plot thickens:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours and pay, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
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Alec Baldwin Prop Gun Live Round Allegations, Cops Say Don’t Know Yet – Deadline
https://deadline.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-fatal-shooting-bullets-used-police-iatse-rust-cinematographer-halyna-hutchins-1234860697/
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OMG 😃
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Brian Laundrie was more innocent than Alec Baldwin.
Maybe he will run and hide in Spain with his “Spanish” whore wife?
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They should've shut down production last weekend to investigate the prior shootings. So Baldwin hit two with one shot.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-the-set-in-protest-before-the-fatal-shooting/ar-AAPQj5V
What we know about the deadly shooting on Alec Baldwin's 'Rust': Search…
Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of "Rust" with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.
Alec Baldwin speaks on the phone outside the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office after he was questioned about the shooting on the set of the film "Rust." (Jim Weber / New Mexican)© (Jim Weber/AP) Alec Baldwin speaks on the phone outside the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office after he was questioned about the shooting on the set of the film "Rust." (Jim Weber / New Mexican)
The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours, long commutes and collecting their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.
Safety protocols standard in the industry, including gun inspections, were not strictly followed on the "Rust" set near Santa Fe, the sources said. They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to production managers about gun safety on the set.
Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set that day said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges on Saturday.
Baldwin's stunt-double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was "cold" — lingo for a weapon that doesn't have any ammunition, including blanks, one of crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.
"There should have been an investigation into what happened," said the crew member. "There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn't happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush."
A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires he sent a text message to the unit production manager. "We've now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe," according to a copy of the message reviewed by the Times.
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One wonders if he knows the Clintons and will pull an "Epstein".
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Alec Baldwin is the kind of liberal who would enjoy Federal “get fucked in the ass” prison.
Once he is locked up, President Trump should go visit him.
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One wonders if he knows the Clintons and will pull an "Eptstein".
Good call. It’s possible
BTW, I bet that Alec had been to Epstein Island in the past
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Alec Baldwin is the kind of liberal who would enjoy Federal “get fucked in the ass” prison.
Once he is locked up, President Trump should go visit him.
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Not every actor can be a producer and/or director.
Alec will learn this the hard way. This will probably extend all the way up to the production company.
However, in America, I'd like to think it's guilty until proven innocent.
Maybe I've been binge watching too many episodes of Chicago PD, but sometimes what you think is obvious, turns out to be the complete opposite.
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Now, there has to be charges filed:
Prop gun in Alec Baldwin accidental movie set shooting had live rounds, police say | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/alec-baldwin-fired-prop-gun-that-killed-crew-member-movie-set-authorities-2021-10-22/
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Now, there has to be charges filed:
Prop gun in Alec Baldwin accidental movie set shooting had live rounds, police say | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/alec-baldwin-fired-prop-gun-that-killed-crew-member-movie-set-authorities-2021-10-22/
Either way, Alec is going down. Could easily have been a setup.
Maybe Alec, crossed somebody.
We joke about cancel culture, but cancel culture happens all of the time. It's no joke.
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Either way, Alec is going down. Could easily have been a setup.
Maybe Alec, crossed somebody.
We joke about cancel culture, but cancel culture happens all of the time. It's no joke.
It sounds like it. Apparently, there was a lot of hostility on the set with cameramen walking off.
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Either way, Alec is going down. Could easily have been a setup.
Maybe Alec, crossed somebody.
We joke about cancel culture, but cancel culture happens all of the time. It's no joke.
Hey Sherlock Homo, take a break from solving crime for a minute and post some pics of your sister’s tig ol’ bitties.
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Hey Sherlock Homo, take a break from solving crime for a minute and post some pics of your sister’s tig ol’ bitties.
Sherlock Homo...... Is your ghost coming out, after all of these years?
Do we need a squeegee board, to wipe off , all of the cum at me bro's?
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Alec Baldwin kills one and injures another with possible movie set prop gun shooting gone bad.
After movie "The Crow" that killed Brandon Lee you have to wonder how a prop gun would still shoot a projectile that can kill.
Woman killed was director of photography and man injured is a director.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/21/entertainment/rust-film-accident/index.html
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A tragedy for sure. Did she have any known comorbidities?
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Sherlock Homo...... Is your ghost coming out, after all of these years?
Do we need a squeegee board, to wipe off , all of the cum at me bro's?
It brings me great joy to know you’re drinking yourself to death.
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It brings me great joy to know you’re drinking yourself to death.
We were born to die.
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We were born to die.
Your family has definitely demonstrated that.
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Your family has definitely demonstrated that.
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Maybe I missed something. Was this during a scene? Why was he aiming the gun? If there were three malfunctions that caused misfires, why weren’t the guns cleared?
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Maybe I missed something. Was this during a scene? Why was he aiming the gun? If there were three malfunctions that caused misfires, why weren’t the guns cleared?
I don’t think that this occurred during a scene, nor were they filming. Apparently the film crew had walked off the set (complaining of poor work conditions) several hours before the shooting occurred.
From what I’ve gathered: they were not filming, and a real bullet was put into the gun. Apparently Alec was pointing and firing the gun at non-actors. Soon thereafter, the cinematographer was dead and they were calling 911 (I haven’t listened to the 911 emergency phone call yet).
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I don’t think that this occurred during a scene, nor were they were filming. Apparently the film crew had walked off the set (complaining of poor work conditions) several hours before the shooting occurred.
From what I’ve gathered: they were not filming, and a real bullet was put into the gun. And Alec was pointing the gun at non-actors. Soon thereafter, the cinematographer was dead and they were calling 911 (I haven’t listened to the 911 phone call yet).
If this is the case, Baldwin was negligent
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Thin Lizzy posted an article above from the Los Angles Times.
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A tragedy for sure. Did she have any known comorbidities?
They will test for Covid in the autopsy and if she is positive the cause of death will be changed.
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If this is the case, Baldwin was negligent
Apparently, Baldwin was given the gun after being told that it was safe. The million dollar question is why there was a live round in a prop gun. Someone is negligent, and it’s not impossible that this was done deliberately, as there were some pissed off people on the set.
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She could’ve done some damage on the NPC Bikini stage
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Charge the liberal crybaby with murder and lock him in one of the Biden cages down at the border with all the criminal illegals
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Charge the liberal crybaby with murder and lock him in one of the Biden cages down at the border with all the criminal illegals
The whole thing brings up a lot of legal questions. What is the liability of the person who is ultimately going to be firing the gun?
The way I see it, somebody’s got to do some time. There is no defense for live bullets being in that gun.
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This was just sent to me….
“Currently former Officer Kim Potter is being charged in Minnesota with both second and first degree manslaughter for the shooting of Daunte Wright. Potter intended to use her taser on him but instead had grabbed her sidearm and shot him resulting in his death. Because as a police officer, the State of Minnesota feels Potter should have, as a result of her training known the difference, even in the heat of the moment.
If you apply the same logic then it looks like a First Degree Manslaughter trial for Alec Baldwin. Baldwin has been involved in TV shows and movies for over 35 years. In that industry, the deaths of Jon Eric Hexum and Brandon Lee have given rise to safety protocols and instruction that even "prop" movie guns are to be afforded the same degree of safety protocols as a real firearm, at least on the sets I worked OT on. Baldwin has appeared in at least a dozen movie and TV shows where he has handled firearms. Several including Miami Blues and The Getaway in posters show him with a firearm in hand. He has knowledge of and training of the proper use and handling of any firearm on a movie set, yet he chose to ignore them. Add in his years of anti gun, anti NRA rhetoric any prosecutor should be able to obtain a conviction.“
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This was just sent to me….
“Currently former Officer Kim Potter is being charged in Minnesota with both second and first degree manslaughter for the shooting of Daunte Wright. Potter intended to use her taser on him but instead had grabbed her sidearm and shot him resulting in his death. Because as a police officer, the State of Minnesota feels Potter should have, as a result of her training known the difference, even in the heat of the moment.
If you apply the same logic then it looks like a First Degree Manslaughter trial for Alec Baldwin. Baldwin has been involved in TV shows and movies for over 35 years. In that industry, the deaths of Jon Eric Hexum and Brandon Lee have given rise to safety protocols and instruction that even "prop" movie guns are to be afforded the same degree of safety protocols as a real firearm, at least on the sets I worked OT on. Baldwin has appeared in at least a dozen movie and TV shows where he has handled firearms. Several including Miami Blues and The Getaway in posters show him with a firearm in hand. He has knowledge of and training of the proper use and handling of any firearm on a movie set, yet he chose to ignore them. Add in his years of anti gun, anti NRA rhetoric any prosecutor should be able to obtain a conviction.“
"This was just sent to me...."
Coach, you aren't an insider. Stop trying to be important.
Attention whores create t-shirt companies.
There are a million of them.
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"This was just sent to me...."
Coach, you aren't an insider. Stop trying to be important.
Attention whores create t-shirt companies.
There are a million of them.
Suck another dick. If you can’t see the point of it you’re dumber as first thought or did you give Josh access to your account because this sounds more like him…
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Suck another dick. If you can’t see the point of it you’re dumber as first thought
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Suck another dick. If you can’t see the point of it you’re dumber as first thought or did you give Josh access to your account because this sounds more like him…
That's how dumb you are. Fuck Josh.
I've had as many run-ins with him, as you have.
You give Repulicans a bad name.
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That's how dumb you are. Fuck Josh.
I've had as many run-ins with him, as you have.
You give Repulicans a bad name.
I’m not a Republican
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I’m not a Republican
I admit, I'm ignorant on this development.
Do you claim a party? Independent?
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Apparently, Baldwin was given the gun after being told that it was safe. The million dollar question is why there was a live round in a prop gun. Someone is negligent, and it’s not impossible that this was done deliberately, as there were some pissed off people on the set.
Yeah no lie. I just read this on BBC and it said it had been loaded with a live round and the assistant director called it a “cold gun” when handed to him. Strange.
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If what’s said was true about Baldwin knowing about firearms and was told the gun was “safe”. Again, it falls on Baldwin to make sure the gun was cleared. His biggest mistake before the shooting was not making sure. Should have been cleared twice. This was 100% avoidable. Make sense?
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If what’s said was true about Baldwin knowing about firearms and was told the gun was “safe”. Again, it falls on Baldwin to make sure the gun was cleared. His biggest mistake before the shooting was not making sure. Should have been cleared twice. This was 100% avoidable. Make sense?
You aren't the voice of anything.
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You aren't the voice of anything.
Neither are you especially with a cock in your mouth
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Neither are you especially with a cock in your mouth
The difference between you and me, is that you believe everything that you hear, when it fits your narrative.
Go have a stroke, while your wife pays for everything.
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911 recording below pic of azzhole
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The difference between you and me, is that you believe everything that you hear, when it fits your narrative.
Go have a stroke, while your wife pays for everything.
Dead giveaway
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There really is no excuse for this. Even if Baldwin was sure it was a blank gun, you still NEVER point it at anyone, EVER. They all know that.
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https://jonathanturley.org/2021/10/23/corners-were-being-cut-baldwin-shooting-already-has-the-makings-a-blockbuster-tort-action/
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There really is no excuse for this. Even if Baldwin was sure it was a blank gun, you still NEVER point it at anyone, EVER. They all know that.
Point AND pull the trigger - why did he do that..?
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I admit, I'm ignorant on this development.
Do you claim a party? Independent?
You’re ignorant on most things.
It doesn’t stop you from running your mouth though.
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If this you or I we would have been hooked up and in jail
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The whole thing brings up a lot of legal questions. What is the liability of the person who is ultimately going to be firing the gun?
The way I see it, somebody’s got to do some time. There is no defense for live bullets being in that gun.
Somebody should do time but I doubt anyone will. No one served any time for Brandon Lee's death.
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Alec Baldwin should be charged and held in prison without bail.
See how tough he is then.
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Somebody should do time but I doubt anyone will. No one served any time for Brandon Lee's death.
Currently, the armorer was very new. It was only her second movie at the job. I’m starting to smell like this thing was a set up.
If I remember correctly, Lee’s incident was the result of a malfunction issue. If there really were live rounds in the gun this is flat out negligence.
https://www.insider.com/rust-shooting-alec-baldwins-armorer-worried-she-wasnt-ready-for-job-2021-10
'Rust' Shooting: Alec Baldwin's Armorer Says She Wasn't 'Ready' for Last Job
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You’re ignorant on most things.
It doesn’t stop you from running your mouth though.
Not really.
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Point AND pull the trigger - why did he do that..?
You just don't. If you are going to pull the trigger Even with blanks, you do not aim it at anyone. You just don't. They all know that.
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I’m not saying that this is true or false... I’m just going to post this here
https://mobile.twitter.com/realmattcouch/status/1451925275730665480?s=10
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You just don't. If you are going to pull the trigger Even with blanks, you do not aim it at anyone. You just don't. They all know that.
You would think, at this point, sound effect technology would be good enough so you wouldn’t even need to use guns that shoot blanks.
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You would think, at this point, sound effect technology would be good enough so you wouldn’t even need to use guns that shoot blanks.
Agreed and they can add very realistic muzzle flashes. But it's cheaper to use "blanks".
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“Treat every weapon as if it were loaded, even after ensuring it to be unloaded”
“Keep your finger straight off the trigger, outside the trigger guard, weapon on safe until you’re up on the target with the intension to shoot”
None of even these two most important rules were followed. Who’s fault on the set was that?
There were live rounds
This is a very curious situation. No doubt it will be heavily investigated. This is not the first time this has happened. Brandon Lee, was killed on set with a loaded prop gun while filming “The Crow." Jon-Erik Hexum (left) died in 1984 from injuries sustained from a prop gun on a television set. Acting is serious business.
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No excuse for live ammo on set, period.
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The guns used are real guns. Not fake guns.
The only difference is the type of ammo.
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A friend in the biz told me that it may be worse than Brandon's death because more people handled the gun and still never checked it for it to actually be cleared, and the armorer was brand new to the job.
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Is Alec Baldwin in prison yet?
Liberal favoritism and stupidity can’t save him now.
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Maybe it's been mentioned but as I understand it the armorer (aka the person in charge of the weapons) for this movie was a woman.
When I found that out the situation made more sense to me.
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https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/23/hollywood-weapons-expert-alec-baldwin-ignored-no-1-rule-of-gun-safety/
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If this was a movie it would be called the perfect crime because he could walk away free.
Seems like a lot of trouble to bring on himself being the producer though.
Maybe too much of a narcissist to destroy his reputation so quickly too.
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I’m not saying that this is true or false... I’m just going to post this here
https://mobile.twitter.com/realmattcouch/status/1451925275730665480?s=10
Interesting way to send a message. What are the chances? Almost none?
Is the armorer a Trump supporter? ;D
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Here is the armorer:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1451863147401338882
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10121545/Production-crew-walked-Alec-Baldwin-movie-set-hours-tragic-shooting.html
PICTURED: Movie armourer and the assistant director who handed Alec Baldwin revolver that killed cinematographer after telling him it was loaded with BLANKS... after crew walked off set over safety fears
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/23/03/49533357-10121545-image-a-29_1634954589286.jpg)
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Actor Jon Eric Hexum died on the CBS set of Cover Up in 1984 when he as a joke put a "prop gun" to his head pretending to commit suicide and it killed him. Brandon Lee died because a bullet was lodged in the barrel and no one checked, so when the blank exploded from the primer, it discharged a real bullet. The reason they use real guns on set is for the look and realistic feel but also for the recoil, as all they are doing is removing the bullet, the projectile. The primer and cartridge still explode with the same force as it is a REAL gun, so the actor will feel the same recoil and thus it will look realistic.
The difference in the Hexum and Lee incidents is that they are explained. In this case, there is NO explanation as to why a gun would be pointed at a director of photography and fired. She was not an extra, and there is absolutely no reason the gun should have been pointed at her. And this bullshit about "shrapnel" from a blank putting the director in critical condition in the hospital is bullshit. Was a second shot. Halyna Hutchins was a key figure in the union walk off that was planned that same day over unsafe conditions, as that gun had already fired live rounds a few days earlier. Hannah Gutierrez Reed, a 24 year old novice but daughter of Thell Reed, a famous gun and stunt expert who went all the way back to Gene Autry gun shoots, in Typical Hollywood fashion was handed this gun safety job because of her Dad at 24 years old after openly admitting she didn't know what she was doing and was incompetent. This was one of the reasons for the walkout, because an extra had fired a gun days before with live rounds(luckily at no one) but the crew was scared, and the female DP was agreeing to walk off the set with them.
This sounds like Baldwin, known to be a dick on sets, pointed the gun at her and the director and fired, probably as a joke, just like the Hexum incident, almost like saying "I wish this gun was real" because he was pissed at the director and the DP for all the complaints. BTW, there is footage of the Brandon Lee death, as he was filming a scene where he got shot in the movie. Never released.
But this cannot be an accident as there would never be any reason a gun, prop or not, would be pointed at a DP and a director unless Baldwin did it as a goof or was pissed and doing a sick joke. And right after a planned walkout by the union, who was counting on the DP, this female cinematographer, to stand behind them as the movie couldn't be shot unless she walked off as she is the only one on the set that is irreplaceable. Even the director can be replaced, but the DP has to light the shots, know lenses, bounce cards, and all aspects of photography. She walks off, no shoot. How interesting she's the one dead.
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I’m not saying that this is true or false... I’m just going to post this here
https://mobile.twitter.com/realmattcouch/status/1451925275730665480?s=10
If this is true, could this be taken as a distraction to the Durham indictments and pending indictments?
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Actor Jon Eric Hexum died on the CBS set of Cover Up in 1984 when he as a joke put a "prop gun" to his head pretending to commit suicide and it killed him. Brandon Lee died because a bullet was lodged in the barrel and no one checked, so when the blank exploded from the primer, it discharged a real bullet. The reason they use real guns on set is for the look and realistic feel but also for the recoil, as all they are doing is removing the bullet, the projectile. The primer and cartridge still explode with the same force as it is a REAL gun, so the actor will feel the same recoil and thus it will look realistic.
The difference in the Hexum and Lee incidents is that they are explained. In this case, there is NO explanation as to why a gun would be pointed at a director of photography and fired. She was not an extra, and there is absolutely no reason the gun should have been pointed at her. And this bullshit about "shrapnel" from a blank putting the director in critical condition in the hospital is bullshit. Was a second shot. Halyna Hutchins was a key figure in the union walk off that was planned that same day over unsafe conditions, as that gun had already fired live rounds a few days earlier. Hannah Gutierrez Reed, a 24 year old novice but daughter of Thell Reed, a famous gun and stunt expert who went all the way back to Gene Autry gun shoots, in Typical Hollywood fashion was handed this gun safety job because of her Dad at 24 years old after openly admitting she didn't know what she was doing and was incompetent. This was one of the reasons for the walkout, because an extra had fired a gun days before with live rounds(luckily at no one) but the crew was scared, and the female DP was agreeing to walk off the set with them.
This sounds like Baldwin, known to be a dick on sets, pointed the gun at her and the director and fired, probably as a joke, just like the Hexum incident, almost like saying "I wish this gun was real" because he was pissed at the director and the DP for all the complaints. BTW, there is footage of the Brandon Lee death, as he was filming a scene where he got shot in the movie. Never released.
But this cannot be an accident as there would never be any reason a gun, prop or not, would be pointed at a DP and a director unless Baldwin did it as a goof or was pissed and doing a sick joke. And right after a planned walkout by the union, who was counting on the DP, this female cinematographer, to stand behind them as the movie couldn't be shot unless she walked off as she is the only one on the set that is irreplaceable. Even the director can be replaced, but the DP has to light the shots, know lenses, bounce cards, and all aspects of photography. She walks off, no shoot. How interesting she's the one dead.
Interesting - so no magic bullet theory for you? Man, I hope you're mistaken, because a second shot by Baldwin seems to imply malice, whereas one could be stupidity.
I read that the Crow footage was destroyed, but that seems unlikely as it must've been viewed and retained for the civil trial.
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Actor Jon Eric Hexum died on the CBS set of Cover Up in 1984 when he as a joke put a "prop gun" to his head pretending to commit suicide and it killed him. Brandon Lee died because a bullet was lodged in the barrel and no one checked, so when the blank exploded from the primer, it discharged a real bullet. The reason they use real guns on set is for the look and realistic feel but also for the recoil, as all they are doing is removing the bullet, the projectile. The primer and cartridge still explode with the same force as it is a REAL gun, so the actor will feel the same recoil and thus it will look realistic.
The difference in the Hexum and Lee incidents is that they are explained. In this case, there is NO explanation as to why a gun would be pointed at a director of photography and fired. She was not an extra, and there is absolutely no reason the gun should have been pointed at her. And this bullshit about "shrapnel" from a blank putting the director in critical condition in the hospital is bullshit. Was a second shot. Halyna Hutchins was a key figure in the union walk off that was planned that same day over unsafe conditions, as that gun had already fired live rounds a few days earlier. Hannah Gutierrez Reed, a 24 year old novice but daughter of Thell Reed, a famous gun and stunt expert who went all the way back to Gene Autry gun shoots, in Typical Hollywood fashion was handed this gun safety job because of her Dad at 24 years old after openly admitting she didn't know what she was doing and was incompetent. This was one of the reasons for the walkout, because an extra had fired a gun days before with live rounds(luckily at no one) but the crew was scared, and the female DP was agreeing to walk off the set with them.
This sounds like Baldwin, known to be a dick on sets, pointed the gun at her and the director and fired, probably as a joke, just like the Hexum incident, almost like saying "I wish this gun was real" because he was pissed at the director and the DP for all the complaints. BTW, there is footage of the Brandon Lee death, as he was filming a scene where he got shot in the movie. Never released.
But this cannot be an accident as there would never be any reason a gun, prop or not, would be pointed at a DP and a director unless Baldwin did it as a goof or was pissed and doing a sick joke. And right after a planned walkout by the union, who was counting on the DP, this female cinematographer, to stand behind them as the movie couldn't be shot unless she walked off as she is the only one on the set that is irreplaceable. Even the director can be replaced, but the DP has to light the shots, know lenses, bounce cards, and all aspects of photography. She walks off, no shoot. How interesting she's the one dead.
I just want to say that Baldwin is a extteme leftist piece of hypocritical shit. That being said.....there are quite a few Directors of Photography that are their own Camera Operators on the main camera. Especially on lower budget films. And a lot of directors that will forego viewing the scene from a video monitor. Some directors prefer to stand behing Camera A...which the DP may have been shooting with herself. Baldwin may very well have been shooting the gun directly into the camera and at the DP for a " point of view" shot from the perspective and angle of the " person on the recieving end". So the situation can absolutely be legit. I have worked on film sets for near 22 years here in Los Angeles so I feel that I can contribute to some of this. The person in charge of handling the gun and clearing it....not Baldwin....should be the one charged in this crime. Whomever job it was in charge of the guns-firearms-ammo....is responsible. Not Baldein. As for Brandon Lee's death footage on The Crow. It was never released because the director, Alex Proyas.....eventually saw to it that the original camera negatives as well as the video assist videotapes were both destroyed. I heard him say this in person at a screening of his later film Dark City....during a Q &A. Just my 2 cents here.
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https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/halyna-hutchins-killed-by-rust-prop-gun-used-by-crew-off-set-for-fun-report/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&sr_share=facebook&fbclid=IwAR18hugBULzSJCsaK2ztR-LV-bPpfQP0DpMVRUKKc_rhcXsBSYLGrRP1Trw
Getting worse and worse.
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https://nypost.com/2021/10/24/halyna-hutchins-killed-by-rust-prop-gun-used-by-crew-off-set-for-fun-report/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&sr_share=facebook&fbclid=IwAR18hugBULzSJCsaK2ztR-LV-bPpfQP0DpMVRUKKc_rhcXsBSYLGrRP1Trw
Getting worse and worse.
Unbelievable that they could be that stupid. That must have been a whole set full of retards.
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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/armorer-alec-baldwin-rust-set-admitted-nervous-abilities
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Alec Baldwin will die in prison sucking on a pair of old sweaty balls.
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Alec Baldwin will die in prison sucking on a pair of old Schweddy balls.
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Interesting - so no magic bullet theory for you? Man, I hope you're mistaken, because a second shot by Baldwin seems to imply malice, whereas one could be stupidity.
I read that the Crow footage was destroyed, but that seems unlikely as it must've been viewed and retained for the civil trial.
I just assumed the Director was standing behind her and the bullet when through her into his shoulder. ???
Seriously though, why the fuck would a live round be in the gun?
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Unbelievable that they could be that stupid. That must have been a whole set full of retards.
It was a low budget film so you’re not getting the top of the food chain crew.
I’m expecting everyone to start throwing each other under the bus soon.
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I just want to say that Baldwin is a extteme leftist piece of hypocritical shit. That being said.....there are quite a few Directors of Photography that are their own Camera Operators on the main camera. Especially on lower budget films. And a lot of directors that will forego viewing the scene from a video monitor. Some directors prefer to stand behing Camera A...which the DP may have been shooting with herself. Baldwin may very well have been shooting the gun directly into the camera and at the DP for a " point of view" shot from the perspective and angle of the " person on the recieving end". So the situation can absolutely be legit. I have worked on film sets for near 22 years here in Los Angeles so I feel that I can contribute to some of this. The person in charge of handling the gun and clearing it....not Baldwin....should be the one charged in this crime. Whomever job it was in charge of the guns-firearms-ammo....is responsible. Not Baldein. As for Brandon Lee's death footage on The Crow. It was never released because the director, Alex Proyas.....eventually saw to it that the original camera negatives as well as the video assist videotapes were both destroyed. I heard him say this in person at a screening of his later film Dark City....during a Q &A. Just my 2 cents here.
This is why I mentioned the footage from the crow. If they were doing a POV shot, there will be footage. However there has been no mention of them shooting a scene, or "an accident happened when shooting a scene", they simply said an accident happened. There is also mention of an extra shooting ANOTHER gun days before with live rounds. As well as this same 24 year old girl in charge of fire arms on set giving an 11 year old a gun with a live round on another movie before this. This is part of what led to the cast revolting over safety. Then magic bullet shrapnel also seriously injures the director, landing him in the ICU I guess. Bottom line, Baldwin produced the film, it's HIS job to hire a competent gun safety expert, and even an average stunt coordinator would know you would NEVER have a live round in a gun or even loaded into a gun on set. There is a difference between an accident and GROSS negligence. If you kill someone drunk driving it's not your friends fault to not take away the keys because he was "designated driver" for the night.
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This is why I mentioned the footage from the crow. If they were doing a POV shot, there will be footage. However there has been no mention of them shooting a scene, or "an accident happened when shooting a scene", they simply said an accident happened. There is also mention of an extra shooting ANOTHER gun days before with live rounds. As well as this same 24 year old girl in charge of fire arms on set giving an 11 year old a gun with a live round on another movie before this. This is part of what led to the cast revolting over safety. Then magic bullet shrapnel also seriously injures the director, landing him in the ICU I guess. Bottom line, Baldwin produced the film, it's HIS job to hire a competent gun safety expert, and even an average stunt coordinator would know you would NEVER have a live round in a gun or even loaded into a gun on set. There is a difference between an accident and GROSS negligence. If you kill someone drunk driving it's not your friends fault to not take away the keys because he was "designated driver" for the night.
This is the argument I’m hearing from lawyers as to why he could be charged. He was more than just an actor being handed a gun.
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If Baldwin had left the country, like he first promised to do when George W Bush was elected, he wouldn't be in this dilly of a pickle.
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It was a low budget film so you’re not getting the top of the food chain crew.
I’m expecting everyone to start throwing each other under the bus soon.
It's probably already happening behind the scenes.
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Is this real? Think that Alec made a few trips with Bill to that island? I've always said some of these people have a control file - it's the only explanation for the craziness you see once in a while.
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Is this real??
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Is this real??
There are many memes with that line, years old.
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Is this real?
look into the connection
Think that Alec made a few trips with Bill to that island? I've always said some of these people have a control file
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-E2fKX5N0c0SoGnfboCuWFUE5Je3cSCP/view
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Maybe it's been mentioned but as I understand it the armorer (aka the person in charge of the weapons) for this movie was a woman.
When I found that out the situation made more sense to me.
Here she is. Obvious Trump supporter that set up Alec Baldwin as revenge.
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Will Baldwin eventually be known only by his mass shooter name...
Never Forget 10-21
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BEEFy said, :. The person in charge of handling the gun and clearing it....not Baldwin....should be the one charged in this crime
And I totally agree......... but Baldwin will suffer some consequences due to the fact that he was the/a producer in charge and may be found negligent for failing to take proper care by ensuring that safety procedures were adhered to.
Has the 'prop master' been named yet?
And what are the current rules/regulations within the movie making industry concerning gun/prop safety matters?
The outcome of this forthcoming investigation will be interesting, but as of this moment, I'll point my finger at the 'gun prop master' .... or whatever that individual is called these days!
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Lets blame this mishap to climate change. Gun was removed from climate controlled room, then the outside temps caused the gun to misfire. Happens all the time.
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BEEFy said, :. The person in charge of handling the gun and clearing it....not Baldwin....should be the one charged in this crime
And I totally agree......... but Baldwin will suffer some consequences due to the fact that he was the/a producer in charge and may be found negligent for failing to take proper care by ensuring that safety procedures were adhered to.
Has the 'prop master' been named yet?
And what are the current rules/regulations within the movie making industry concerning gun/prop safety matters?
The outcome of this forthcoming investigation will be interesting, but as of this moment, I'll point my finger at the 'gun prop master' .... or whatever that individual is called these days!
They both should. It should have been cleared once then cleared again by Baldwin since he was the last touch it, point it and pull the trigger. Because someone says they clear a weapon doesn’t mean they didn’t make a mistake. A flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load. Since it’s a western I’m assuming it was a revolver.
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Forced a guilty LOL from me ;D
Alec Baldwin will die in prison sucking on a pair of old Schweddy balls.
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Is that a Jimmy Fingers reference? (Seagal/Out for Justice)
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The following is an interesting comment made by a professional Hollywood Prop Master of 17 years .....
Prop masters are the last person to hand an actor a gun, and the person who gives the actor a gun is responsible for it. You have to go through the proper procedures to show the actor if the gun is loaded or not, and if it's not, if it's plugged, when a piece of plastic or wood clogs the magazine. There are a whole bunch of scenarios, and a lot of stuff could go wrong.
People on the set being close to a prop gun is very dangerous. The blast of a prop gun can kill you, depending on the load that the gun has. Prop guns are designed not to shoot up for the projectile because they put a stop in the front, which is a certain size based on the load spring. That's to give the gun a flare look and make it look like it got fired. If anyone is inches from this type of gun, that blast can kill you.
I've never experienced anything as tragic as what happened yesterday on the 'Rust' movie set on any sets I've been on
The woman who was killed must've just been too close to the blast, but it also depends on the weapon that Alec Baldwin had.
The type of gun ties into a lot of stuff. If you have an M4 and you have a full load, the blast is going to be a little longer. I don't know the timeline of history for this story or what year they're doing - that's information I don't have, so I don't know what happened there.
All I can say is never point a gun at somebody when you're firing, and everyone nearby has to be more than six feet away. Just have it slightly away from the person you're supposed to be aiming the gun at. The guns also shoot off the shell, so you don't want to be standing to the right side of the gun because the shell comes out hot and it could hit you on the face and burn you.
I've never been afraid on set because I always double- and triple-check weapons
If a gun is not firing in a scene, there are no bullets in there. If they have a revolver where you can see the bullets, I make sure it's loaded up with dummy bullets. They have a whole band inside and you load them in front of the actor so they know what you're giving them. I also do a lot of gun checks with my actors to show them an empty magazine and that there's nothing in the barrel.
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UK press is reporting it was a revolver, and he was practising a cross draw from a seated position into the camera
So, the gun has a live round in there from them f**king around in the break time(!), he makes the draw but fumbles the cocking movement - BAM!
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COACH, I am no longer aware how any weapon used on a Hollywood set is 'marked' to show that it is safe, but your idea that " a flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load" sounds like a decent recommendation.
But your comment that both Baldwin and the prop master should be found guilty is something I disagree with totally.
Or maybe Baldwin could be found guilty of hiring a prop master who was not qualified of doing a prop master's job.
It appears to my uneducated prop master mind that those of us who accuse Baldwin
of a crime .... only do so because we dislike him.
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They both should. It should have been cleared once then cleared again by Baldwin since he was the last touch it, point it and pull the trigger. Because someone says they clear a weapon doesn’t mean they didn’t make a mistake. A flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load. Since it’s a western I’m assuming it was a revolver.
He’s a producer. He knew that the armorer was some 24-year-old Emo chick. He should’ve double checked.
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Unbelievable that they could be that stupid. That must have been a whole set full of retards.
Have You spent a day posting on Getbig?
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Have You spent a day posting on Getbig?
Yes.......yes I have.
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COACH, I am no longer aware how any weapon used on a Hollywood set is 'marked' to show that it is safe, but your idea that " a flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load" sounds like a decent recommendation.
But your comment that both Baldwin and the prop master should be found guilty is something I disagree with totally.
Or maybe Baldwin could be found guilty of hiring a prop master who was not qualified of doing a prop master's job.
It appears to my uneducated prop master mind that those of us who accuse Baldwin
of a crime .... only do so because we dislike him.
He didn’t say guilty of murder.
But they should at the very least be tried for manslaughter.
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You just don't. If you are going to pull the trigger Even with blanks, you do not aim it at anyone. You just don't. They all know that.
Thank you. Simple as that.
Baldwin is a murderer. A stupid, brainless murderer.
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He’s a producer. He knew that the armorer was some 24-year-old Emo chick. He should’ve double checked.
Bingo. Who the fuck would EVER trust some 24 year old, blue haired, metrosexual chick with any sort of gun safety?
WTF?
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LES, I'm 60% sure that they will both be charged with manslaughter but even if that happens, Baldwin should be found less of a 'man-slaughterer' than the Weapon Prop Master who was the main individual responsible for the safe usage of each destructive 'item' allowed on set.
Right or wrong ...It's gonna be an interesting court proceeding.
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TOMMY, Did you dislike Baldwin due to his acting or political opinions, or his past, adverse publicity BEFORE this event took place?
Or do you simply dislike this individual for pointing the 'pistol' and pulling the trigger and thereby killing a production member .... without intent to do so.
The lack of intent fits the manslaughter' definition, I believe but in my untrained legal mind, I'd call it a matter of PURE STUPIDITY on Baldwin's part which may warrant a lighter sentence.
(Pointing an unloaded weapon at anyone is pure stupidity!)
But Prop Guy's part is 'Pure Stupidier' because he is the guy we all count on to keep prop shit like this from happening.
If there is one and only one guilty party allowed, that title should go to the Prop Guy.
Asking for a friend . Does stupidity warrant a manslaughter charge?
My guess is yes, but .....
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COACH, I am no longer aware how any weapon used on a Hollywood set is 'marked' to show that it is safe, but your idea that " a flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load" sounds like a decent recommendation.
But your comment that both Baldwin and the prop master should be found guilty is something I disagree with totally.
Or maybe Baldwin could be found guilty of hiring a prop master who was not qualified of doing a prop master's job.
It appears to my uneducated prop master mind that those of us who accuse Baldwin
of a crime .... only do so because we dislike him.
Coach is going by the rules of handling firearms.
Meaning the person holding the weapon is responsible for it.
And he's correct.
When anyone hands you a firearm, it's your responsibility to make sure it's cleared.
When i took firearm training this was beat into our heads because it prevents accidents like this from happening.
I remember during the course the instructor took a pump shotgun and racked it to show it wasn't loaded. Then handed it to us and told us to inspect and see it was clear. Everyone just looked at the open chamber and assumed it was empty. But he had slipped a dummy round into it and nobody noticed because the action was open.
Once he got the gun back he racked it twice and the round shot out.
We all failed that day.
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Is the movie any good?
Worth a watch?
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Clayton Fletcher
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Playing the @WSOP
shootout and fortunately Alec Baldwin isn't
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TOMMY, Did you dislike Baldwin due to his acting or political opinions, or his past, adverse publicity BEFORE this event took place?
Or do you simply dislike this individual for pointing the 'pistol' and pulling the trigger and thereby killing a production member .... without intent to do so.
The lack of intent fits the manslaughter' definition, I believe but in my untrained legal mind, I'd call it a matter of PURE STUPIDITY on Baldwin's part which may warrant a lighter sentence.
(Pointing an unloaded weapon at anyone is pure stupidity!)
But Prop Guy's part is 'Pure Stupidier' because he is the guy we all count on to keep prop shit like this from happening.
If there is one and only one guilty party allowed, that title should go to the Prop Guy.
Asking for a friend . Does stupidity warrant a manslaughter charge?
My guess is yes, but .....
Hi Stunt. I always liked Baldwin. He was funny. Seemed to make fun of everyone equally.
Sure he's a Hollywood elitest and he expressed dislike for Trump but that's just coffee house chit chat.
Nobody is telling the truth. We will never know the truth.
Bottom line... Every gun is loaded. Every gun is always loaded. It will kill you. Do not point a gun at somebody and pull the trigger unless you are planning to kill them.
Follow that rule and nobody dies. Ignore that simple rule and this is what can happen.
Manslaughter. Five years in prison for Baldwin. He pulled the trigger. The girl is dead. The end.
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Bottom line... Every gun is loaded. Every gun is always loaded. It will kill you. Do not point a gun at somebody and pull the trigger unless you are planning to kill them.
Follow that rule and nobody dies. Ignore that simple rule and this is what can happen.
Manslaughter. Five years in prison for Baldwin. He pulled the trigger. The girl is dead. The end.
Exactly.
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Is the movie any good?
Worth a watch?
It's killer
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LES, I'm 60% sure that they will both be charged with manslaughter but even if that happens, Baldwin should be found less of a 'man-slaughterer' than the Weapon Prop Master who was the main individual responsible for the safe usage of each destructive 'item' allowed on set.
Right or wrong ...It's gonna be an interesting court proceeding.
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I disagree. Baldwin is 100% culpable. Others may culpable as well, but the bottom line is BALDWIN PULLED THE TRIGGER (and it may a have likely been a revolver with a hammer, therefore performed a more conscience action; DA vs SA). HE FAILED the four primary rules of gun safety.
Treat ALL guns as if they are always loaded.
NEVER let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to DESTROY.
Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
Be sure of your target and what is behind it..
It wasn't a PROP gun. IT WAS REAL
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John Schneider had some things to say. A bit rambling, but insightful
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All these excuses but the reality is if you are keeping score.
1) idiot low rent armorer...why would you have ANY real bullets on a prop set?
2) idiot actor fires gun at cast...
3) idiot producer for hiring idiot armorer...
Problem is, 2 of the 3 idiots is one guy which is why he should be culpable.
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TOMMY, OVERLOAD, PRINCESS, etc.
Thanks for you interesting and intelligent responses.
I gotta do some 're-thinking" due to your inputs
This case is going to be interesting and regardless of your intelligent responses .... I still think that Baldwin will not face one day or more locked up.
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LES, I'm 60% sure that they will both be charged with manslaughter but even if that happens, Baldwin should be found less of a 'man-slaughterer' than the Weapon Prop Master who was the main individual responsible for the safe usage of each destructive 'item' allowed on set.
Right or wrong ...It's gonna be an interesting court proceeding.
I believe that is why there is also an involuntary manslaughter charge.
I’m not sure what the legal difference is, or what action or inaction triggers voluntary or involuntary.
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LES,
Voluntary manslaughter is intentionally killing another person in the heat of passion and in response to adequate provocation.
Voluntary manslaughter sentencing will vary by case and jurisdiction, but most convictions result in prison time. According to federal sentencing guidelines, the penalty for voluntary manslaughter consists of fines, 10 years or less in prison, or both.
Involuntary manslaughter is negligently causing the death of another person.
Involuntary Manslaughter is a category D felony here in Nevada, which means that it carries with it: A prison sentence of between 1 and 4 years in a Nevada State Prison; and. Possible fines up to $5,000.00.
Penalties for voluntary manslaughter are significantly less severe than penalties for murder, which could potentially result in life in prison. In California, voluntary manslaughter is a felony and could result in the following penalties: Three, six, or eleven years in California state prison. A fine of up to $10,000.
I'm not sure just yet if the manslaughter penalties are the same in each state such as California, Nevada, or Arizona nor even which state would have jurisdiction, but some GetBiggers may be smart enough to clarify.
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At present I'm not up to date nor have I had a chance to read all these posts, but can anyone tell me how a live round (if it was a live round) got on the set, who brought it to the set, and who placed it in the pistol, etc.?
I will say that I am not surprised that 'weapons' were on the set as I, myself, usually carry my 45 when I go to remote regions of the desert around Las Vegas.... but seldom find any reason to use it except for rare target practice, but on a movie set there must have been a 'no weapons' requirement.
Was there?
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COACH, I am no longer aware how any weapon used on a Hollywood set is 'marked' to show that it is safe, but your idea that " a flag should have been placed in the gun that indicates it was clear. Then when ready to use, pull the flag, check for clear AGAIN then load" sounds like a decent recommendation.
But your comment that both Baldwin and the prop master should be found guilty is something I disagree with totally.
Or maybe Baldwin could be found guilty of hiring a prop master who was not qualified of doing a prop master's job.
It appears to my uneducated prop master mind that those of us who accuse Baldwin
of a crime .... only do so because we dislike him.
Biden is to blame, none other.
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Maybe it's been mentioned but as I understand it the armorer (aka the person in charge of the weapons) for this movie was a woman.
When I found that out the situation made more sense to me.
This person has a history of screwing up.
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https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/26/nolte-veteran-prop-master-refused-job-on-alec-baldwin-film-due-to-safety-concerns/?fbclid=IwAR1oDTBJyCOZ2Ku1VJxoM6h6K9DLXJR8rcdv7rWWdjTAPcaD8TJK7Y57M_c
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This person has a history of screwing up.
Like Biden and O-TWINK!
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A disoriented, virus-obsessed mass shooter days before his spree:
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A disoriented, virus-obsessed mass shooter days before his spree:
Lunatic.
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A disoriented, virus-obsessed mass shooter days before his spree:
What disgusting swamp creature forced Baldwin to make that video? It’s obvious that it was not his idea. Alec looked like he was going through drug withdrawal or he hadn’t slept in days. Seemed to be nervous and distracted.
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At present I'm not up to date nor have I had a chance to read all these posts, but can anyone tell me how a live round (if it was a live round) got on the set, who brought it to the set, and who placed it in the pistol, etc.?
I will say that I am not surprised that 'weapons' were on the set as I, myself, usually carry my 45 when I go to remote regions of the desert around Las Vegas.... but seldom find any reason to use it except for rare target practice, but on a movie set there must have been a 'no weapons' requirement.
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Was there?
The crew was off at a nearby range "plinking" with the so-called "props". Apparently no one cleared them upon returning to the set. Regardless, the guns should be cleared EVERY SINGLE TIME they're picked up. The last check should've been made by Baldwin. He is ultimately responsible. HE INTENTIONALLY POINTED IT AT SOMEONE AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. At the very least, involuntary manslaughter. How could he not be charged and convicted?
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Just watch Chicago PD.
You'll find out what they do, behind the scenes.
And I'm proud of it.
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The crew was off at a nearby range "plinking" with the so-called "props". Apparently no one cleared them upon returning to the set. Regardless, the guns should be cleared EVERY SINGLE TIME they're picked up. The last check should've been made by Baldwin. He is ultimately responsible. HE INTENTIONALLY POINTED IT AT SOMEONE AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. At the very least, involuntary manslaughter. How could he not be charged and convicted?
The only thing that needs to be known, during this situation, is whether that the people where shot, were supposed to be in the movie scene.
If not, you have motive.
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The crew was off at a nearby range "plinking" with the so-called "props". Apparently no one cleared them upon returning to the set. Regardless, the guns should be cleared EVERY SINGLE TIME they're picked up. The last check should've been made by Baldwin. He is ultimately responsible. HE INTENTIONALLY POINTED IT AT SOMEONE AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. At the very least, involuntary manslaughter. How could he not be charged and convicted?
I agree with you regarding pointing a gun at someone even if you believe it isn't loaded. I doubt he will be charged much less convicted of anything.
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A disoriented, virus-obsessed mass shooter days before his spree:
WTF. Guy appears “stalling” in the brain department. And he looks dreadful. His eyes look almost closed from puffiness. And the at-war thing is so past over.
Lefties. Hollyweird soldiers.
Nuisance humans.
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A disoriented, virus-obsessed mass shooter days before his spree:
Guy needs eyelid surgery. Looks like Balboa in the final round
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WTF. Guy appears “stalling” in the brain department. And he looks dreadful. His eyes look almost closed from puffiness. And the at-war thing is so past over.
Lefties. Hollyweird soldiers.
Nuisance humans.
Must be the booze. He has the puffy boozer look to him.
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I think tat PRINCESS L is close to the truth.(See her/his post above).
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Isn't it interesting what happens to people as they age. None of the Baldwin brothers have good genes for aging.
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The only thing that needs to be known, during this situation, is whether that the people where shot, were supposed to be in the movie scene.
If not, you have motive.
He had ZERO reason for NOT checking the weapon. He had ZERO business pointing a firearm at a person. He had ZERO reason for pulling the trigger. There is ZERO justification.
I agree with you regarding pointing a gun at someone even if you believe it isn't loaded. I doubt he will be charged much less convicted of anything.
Not because he is not 100% at fault (others are as well), but HE PULLED THE TRIGGER NOT KNOWING (only trusting) the weapon was clear. The only reason he wouldn't be charged and convicted would be he's part of the Hollyweird elite (that's a stretch). Hang 'em high.
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Isn't it interesting what happens to people as they age. None of the Baldwin brothers have good genes for aging.
Clean living >>> genes any day
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He had ZERO reason for NOT checking the weapon. He had ZERO business pointing a firearm at a person. He had ZERO reason for pulling the trigger. There is ZERO justification.
Not because he is not 100% at fault (others are as well), but HE PULLED THE TRIGGER NOT KNOWING (only trusting) the weapon was clear. The only reason he wouldn't be charged and convicted would be he's part of the Hollyweird elite (that's a stretch). Hang 'em high.
He's not one of my favorite personalities. Can't say actor because he mostly plays himself and to be honest, I haven't seen much of his work. But you are right, historically, the Hollywood A and B list look out for one another.
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People this isn't complicated.
Just change the job descriptions. Instead of movie stars on a movie set making a Hollywood movie pretend it was...
...three friends at Home Depot and one friend pulls out the gun and shoots two of his coworkers killing one of them.
It makes no different "who handed him the gun." It makes no difference where the gun was yesterday. It makes no different how many times he has held a gun.
Stop looking at the movie star. Stop listening to the other actors. Forget the word Hollywood.
Stop acting as if you know Alec Baldwin, the actor and producer.
It's a man shooting a woman and killing her. Everything else is just coffee house bullshit.
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People this isn't complicated.
Just change the job descriptions. Instead of movie stars on a movie set making a Hollywood movie pretend it was...
...three friends at Home Depot and one friend pulls out the gun and shoots two of his coworkers killing one of them.
It makes no different "who handed him the gun." It makes no difference where the gun was yesterday. It makes no different how many times he has held a gun.
Stop looking at the movie star. Stop listening to the other actors. Forget the word Hollywood.
Stop acting as if you know Alec Baldwin, the actor and producer.
It's a man shooting a woman and killing her. Everything else is just coffee house bullshit.
Yep...
Just ask all of Kevin Spacey’s accusers... oh wait, they all died within a 12 month time period, and Spacey never had to worry about a thing afterwards
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I think tat PRINCESS L is close to the truth.(See her/his post above).
;)
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Unless there's some kind of conspiracy here, this is pretty simple. It comes down to him breaking all four rules of safety. If you want to know what NOT to do in handling a firearm, Baldwin would be the perfect example.
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Baldwin deserves to suffer horribly for his crimes. That's right.
C R I M E S. Starting with this woman's death. If people think he's Teflon coated crap then I say the Law needs to break out the steel scouring pad and get to roughing his ass up.
Baldwin is not above the Law but he is beneath the citizenry of our Nation. He just needs to be planted behind bars or better still, given the death penalty for what his ignorance has done. It was no accident that he shot and killed her. It was his impudence toward all that is good.
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is baldwin atheist ?
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is baldwin atheist ?
No. He's an ASSHOLIST.
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is baldwin atheist ?
He's a flaming liberal, of course he is
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When I was around twenty I lived outside Phoenix and worked as a cowboy in a western town for tourists.
We used real Colts with just gunpowder and no bullets. The rules were for every shootout we had to be at least thirty feet away and even then guns were to be aimed at the ground in front of you and not at the person or persons across from you. Also every gun was checked by at least one other person before the shows.
I witnessed a ''Noob'' fire his gun face high and after the shows were over and all the tourists left he straight up got his ass kicked and we all watched and no one helped him.
Jon-Erick Hexum killed himself screwing around thinking gunpowder and blanks wouldn't hurt him.
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Baldwin's hosting Saturday Night Live this weekend AND is the musical guest. He's doing a rendition of "Hey Joe" by Jimi Hendrix.
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Baldwin's hosting Saturday Night Live this weekend AND is the musical guest. He's doing a rendition of "Hey Joe" by Jimi Hendrix.
LOL ;D
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Baldwin's hosting Saturday Night Live this weekend AND is the musical guest. He's doing a rendition of "Hey Joe" by Jimi Hendrix.
Brutal if true ;D
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What happened to that girl who killed her boyfriend on YouTube a few years back with a desert eagle? They were pranksters and he put a book up to his chest and she shot him? Did she get jail time?
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;)
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I think tat PRINCESS L is close to the truth.(See her/his post above).
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Yep...
Just ask all of Kevin Spacey’s accusers... oh wait, they all died within a 12 month time period, and Spacey never had to worry about a thing afterwards
Yeah Kevin's on top of the world.... ::)
May 2021.....Louis Nero, the producer of Franco Nero’s upcoming low-budget indie “L’uomo Che Disegnò Dio,” confirmed to Variety that Spacey is on board to make a cameo in the film.
Cameo = he's in one scene. Low budget indie = the bottom of the barrel = straight to video streaming. Kev's cooked!
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Baldwin deserves to suffer horribly for his crimes. That's right.
C R I M E S. Starting with this woman's death. If people think he's Teflon coated crap then I say the Law needs to break out the steel scouring pad and get to roughing his ass up.
Baldwin is not above the Law but he is beneath the citizenry of our Nation. He just needs to be planted behind bars or better still, given the death penalty for what his ignorance has done. It was no accident that he shot and killed her. It was his impudence toward all that is good.
Last I read, this horrific incident was still under investigation. Nobody has been charged yet, but that could still happen. Baldwin is not in the clear.
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Last I read, this horrific incident was still under investigation. Nobody has been charged yet, but that could still happen. Baldwin is not in the clear.
Not in the clear and he’s front and center
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BAN WESTERNS!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_and_television_accidents
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BAN WESTERNS!
BAN BALDWINS!
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BAN BALDWINS!
That's something I'd support.
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Looks like the truth has come out and some "crew members" took the gun to do target practice in the desert with live rounds during the LONG downtime everyone has on movie sets. However lower level crew members like Production Assistants would usually never try such a stunt as putting live ammo in a gun and shooting it, they are often terrified of the asshole producers and directors like Baldwin or anyone with any real power who treats them like shit as they get coffee and run errands. So whoever put a live round in the gun and fucked around was someone with some power.
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Looks like the truth has come out and some "crew members" took the gun to do target practice in the desert with live rounds during the LONG downtime everyone has on movie sets. However lower level crew members like Production Assistants would usually never try such a stunt as putting live ammo in a gun and shooting it, they are often terrified of the asshole producers and directors like Baldwin or anyone with any real power who treats them like shit as they get coffee and run errands. So whoever put a live round in the gun and fucked around was someone with some power.
Cough, Cough.. Alec... Cough.. Baldwin
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2021 | Tyler McCarthy
Posted on 11/3/2021, 11:18:58
The armorer on the set of "Rust" offered a chilling theory through her attorneys about what led to the accidental shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed was one of four people who handled the weapon prior to Alec Baldwin firing it while rehearsing a scene for the indie-western. As a result, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said that the investigation is largely focused on her as well as how a live round made its way to the set of the film at all.
Speaking on the "Today" show Wednesday Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claim that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
"We don’t know, however, whether that live round came from that box," Bowlees said. "We’re assuming it did. We’re assuming somebody put that live round in that box, which, if you think about that, the person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set. There’s no other reason you would do that. That you would mix that live round with the dummy rounds."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVyiXIqlph7/?utm_medium=copy_link
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CVyiXIqlph7/?utm_medium=copy_link
She has such an amazing body.
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2021 | Tyler McCarthy
Posted on 11/3/2021, 11:18:58
The armorer on the set of "Rust" offered a chilling theory through her attorneys about what led to the accidental shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed was one of four people who handled the weapon prior to Alec Baldwin firing it while rehearsing a scene for the indie-western. As a result, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said that the investigation is largely focused on her as well as how a live round made its way to the set of the film at all.
Speaking on the "Today" show Wednesday Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claim that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
"We don’t know, however, whether that live round came from that box," Bowlees said. "We’re assuming it did. We’re assuming somebody put that live round in that box, which, if you think about that, the person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set. There’s no other reason you would do that. That you would mix that live round with the dummy rounds."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Armorer sounds like an incredibly easy job.
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Armorer sounds like an incredibly easy job.
Most jobs on an acting set are easy. A lot of downtime and waiting around.
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Alec Baldwin’s wife breeds for her allowance money.
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2021 | Tyler McCarthy
Posted on 11/3/2021, 11:18:58
The armorer on the set of "Rust" offered a chilling theory through her attorneys about what led to the accidental shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed was one of four people who handled the weapon prior to Alec Baldwin firing it while rehearsing a scene for the indie-western. As a result, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said that the investigation is largely focused on her as well as how a live round made its way to the set of the film at all.
Speaking on the "Today" show Wednesday Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claim that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
"We don’t know, however, whether that live round came from that box," Bowlees said. "We’re assuming it did. We’re assuming somebody put that live round in that box, which, if you think about that, the person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set. There’s no other reason you would do that. That you would mix that live round with the dummy rounds."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
This is how he will get away with it.
Shouldn't have left it unattended, but i'm sure it will be a non-issue and he will walk.
Now it will be the gun's fault.
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2021 | Tyler McCarthy
Posted on 11/3/2021, 11:18:58
The armorer on the set of "Rust" offered a chilling theory through her attorneys about what led to the accidental shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed was one of four people who handled the weapon prior to Alec Baldwin firing it while rehearsing a scene for the indie-western. As a result, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said that the investigation is largely focused on her as well as how a live round made its way to the set of the film at all.
Speaking on the "Today" show Wednesday Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claim that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
"We don’t know, however, whether that live round came from that box," Bowlees said. "We’re assuming it did. We’re assuming somebody put that live round in that box, which, if you think about that, the person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set. There’s no other reason you would do that. That you would mix that live round with the dummy rounds."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Let’s say for second this is true. Baldwin was still the last person to point and pull the trigger which means he should have been the last to check for clear and safe. Again, if this might be true, sounds like they were betting on Baldwin to be negligent
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'Rust' armorer's attorneys speculate sabotage occurred on set in deadly Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Fox News ^ | November 3, 2021 | Tyler McCarthy
Posted on 11/3/2021, 11:18:58
The armorer on the set of "Rust" offered a chilling theory through her attorneys about what led to the accidental shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed was one of four people who handled the weapon prior to Alec Baldwin firing it while rehearsing a scene for the indie-western. As a result, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said that the investigation is largely focused on her as well as how a live round made its way to the set of the film at all.
Speaking on the "Today" show Wednesday Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence claim that the bullets their client loaded into the gun on the day of the shooting were taken from a box that was only supposed to contain dummy rounds that were incapable of firing. However, because the ammunition was left unattended from roughly 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. that day, they believe the opportunity was there for a disgruntled crew member to mix a live round into the box.
"We don’t know, however, whether that live round came from that box," Bowlees said. "We’re assuming it did. We’re assuming somebody put that live round in that box, which, if you think about that, the person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set. There’s no other reason you would do that. That you would mix that live round with the dummy rounds."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Alec Baldwin is in trouble if that’s the best story that they could come up with.
“Somebody sabotaged me!”
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Baldwin deserves the death penalty for murdering that woman.
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Baldwin deserves the death penalty for murdering that woman.
If this were you or I we would have been in jail
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If this were you or I we would have been in jail
This is true, my friend. I still hope he goes to trial and is found guilty. He is a filthy, lying cuck and this was no "accident".
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The dead chicks husband has lawyered up. Somebody is getting sued.
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The dead chicks husband has lawyered up. Somebody is getting sued.
Somehow the Clintons are involved...Filthy creatures that they are. Baldwin may yet Epstein up.
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246.3 PC states that “(a) Except as otherwise authorized by law, any person who willfully discharges a firearm in a grossly negligent manner which could result in injury or death to a person is guilty of a public offense and shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
This really isn't much of a case. With the good lawyer Baldwin will have and his connections, the D.A. won't go after involuntary manslaughter. It will be settled out of court for millions. Deceased's husband has already lawyered up for a civil trial.
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246.3 PC states that “(a) Except as otherwise authorized by law, any person who willfully discharges a firearm in a grossly negligent manner which could result in injury or death to a person is guilty of a public offense and shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
This really isn't much of a case. With the good lawyer Baldwin will have and his connections, the D.A. won't go after involuntary manslaughter. It will be settled out of court for millions. Deceased's husband has already lawyered up for a civil trial.
I’m assuming this is a New Mexico PC?
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I’m assuming this is a New Mexico PC?
I apologize, was California law. Here is NM. It's actually less strict.
30-7-4. Negligent use of a deadly weapon.
A. Negligent use of a deadly weapon consists of:
(1) discharging a firearm into any building or vehicle or so as to knowingly endanger a person or his property;
(2) carrying a firearm while under the influence of an intoxicant or narcotic;
(3) endangering the safety of another by handling or using a firearm or other deadly weapon in a negligent manner; or
(4) discharging a firearm within one hundred fifty yards of a dwelling or building, not including abandoned or vacated buildings on public lands during hunting seasons, without the permission of the owner or lessees thereof.
Whoever commits negligent use of a deadly weapon is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.
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An oldie but goodie excuse:
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Let’s say for second this is true. Baldwin was still the last person to point and pull the trigger which means he should have been the last to check for clear and safe. Again, if this might be true, sounds like they were betting on Baldwin to be negligent
He was practicing 'method acting' which is something he learned from his studies at the Lee Strasberg Actors Studio.
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So they have confirmed it was an actual live round that was in the gun :o
When it happened on the set of the crow i believe it was a blank that got caught up in the chamber so when the next blank fired it pushed the contents of the previous blank outwards as a projectile which killed Brandon.
Therefore if it’s confirmed as a live round it would mean someone tampered with it on purpose, ok no problem believing that
Yet what I’m struggling with is how the hell did he shoot 2 people on set? There has to be more to it that explains the story. Was he having a casual chat waving it around and accidentally it set off? Or was he in the middle of filming a scene and fired the gun which is how it went off.
I’d have to assume he was filming a scene which makes a lot more sense.
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So they have confirmed it was an actual live round that was in the gun :o
When it happened on the set of the crow i believe it was a blank that got caught up in the chamber so when the next blank fired it pushed the contents of the previous blank outwards as a projectile which killed Brandon.
Therefore if it’s confirmed as a live round it would mean someone tampered with it on purpose, ok no problem believing that
Yet what I’m struggling with is how the hell did he shoot 2 people on set? There has to be more to it that explains the story. Was he having a casual chat waving it around and accidentally it set off? Or was he in the middle of filming a scene and fired the gun which is how it went off.
I’d have to assume he was filming a scene which makes a lot more sense.
Guns don't go off - he squeezed the trigger. The bullet went through the gal and into the guy. Very sad, very preventable.
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The dead chicks husband has lawyered up. Somebody is getting sued.
I thought he was a lawyer?
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He was practicing 'method acting' which is something he learned from his studies at the Lee Strasberg Actors Studio.
What’s your point…again?
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Him speaking on it was interesting, especially the way he treated his wife. He made what's called a passive denial of any wrongdoing. "She was my friend, we went to dinner" etc. It's like when Mike O' Hearn is asked if he's ever taken gear he answers "I was 250 lbs. when I was 16" It's a passive denial, suggesting someone is cloaking some part of the truth.
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I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now. Why, with all the technology available are they using real weapons? Surely they could have prop guns made and no one would know the difference. Seems like this whole situation was tragically preventable on many, many levels.
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If this were you or I we would have been in jail
Facts. The elites have a completely different justice system.
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I thought he was a lawyer?
He definitely is a lawyer.
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Somehow the Clintons are involved...Filthy creatures that they are. Baldwin may yet Epstein up.
He's way too arrogant for that.
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I apologize, was California law. Here is NM. It's actually less strict.
30-7-4. Negligent use of a deadly weapon.
A. Negligent use of a deadly weapon consists of:
(1) discharging a firearm into any building or vehicle or so as to knowingly endanger a person or his property;
(2) carrying a firearm while under the influence of an intoxicant or narcotic;
(3) endangering the safety of another by handling or using a firearm or other deadly weapon in a negligent manner; or
(4) discharging a firearm within one hundred fifty yards of a dwelling or building, not including abandoned or vacated buildings on public lands during hunting seasons, without the permission of the owner or lessees thereof.
Whoever commits negligent use of a deadly weapon is guilty of a petty misdemeanor.
...until a death actually occurs from the above... then it's a whole other ballgame.
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Is the cinematographer Baldwin shot still dead?
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Is the cinematographer Baldwin shot still dead?
And Baldwin is still walking around free man
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I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now. Why, with all the technology available are they using real weapons? Surely they could have prop guns made and no one would know the difference. Seems like this whole situation was tragically preventable on many, many levels.
Apparently it looks "more real" with an actual blank/dummy round being fired.
I read this a while back because i always wondered the same thing.
Seems pretty stupid IMO.
A lot of movies don't use them, but some still use real guns.
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I've been meaning to ask this question for a while now. Why, with all the technology available are they using real weapons? Surely they could have prop guns made and no one would know the difference. Seems like this whole situation was tragically preventable on many, many levels.
As mentioned, it has to with the weight, cycling, and movement with a real gun. They just are off a bit CGI wise. Also good prop houses and armorers cost very decent money, it's much cheaper to use a real pistol and tell everyone to be careful.
It's long, but here's a high end movie armorer explaining how much work it takes to make a good prop gun, and also how much goes into set safety on a real studio film -
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We are talking A list Hollywood productions. Money should not be a consideration.
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He's way too arrogant for that.
Yes, but you don't have to actually "commit suicide" to be found dead of it.
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I didn't realize the investigation was over. This is unreal. ::)
"Two weeks ago, Alec Baldwin accidentally killed a young and beloved cinematographer named Halyna Hutchins.
Tragedy struck on the film set of "Rust" Oct. 21 when the actor discharged a prop gun in a shocking incident that resulted in Hutchins' death and the injury of the movie's director, Joel Souza. Baldwin was told the gun was "cold," indicating that it didn't contain ammunition, but a live bullet was later discovered.
Photos from the scene showed Baldwin visibly crying, and some were concerned for his well-being after a tense paparazzi interaction. Experts say Baldwin is also grappling his own trauma: the reality of inadvertently causing a death.
Social psychologist Maryann Gray empathizes with Baldwin. In 1977, she unintentionally hit an 8-year-old boy, who dashed in front of her car on a rural highway — an experience that left her full of grief, guilt, shame and anguish.
"I do have a lot of compassion for him," Gray says of Baldwin. "If he's like most people who unintentionally kill someone, he's suffering with a variety of challenges, one of them is certainly trauma.""
https://money.yahoo.com/alec-baldwin-neglected-trauma-unintentional-155709431.html
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And from what I understand it is much easier to miss a person with a pistol than hit them if you're at any kind of distance (and you're trying to hit them). In other words it is harder to kill someone unless you are specifically aiming at them. And everyone on that set knows you don't do that.
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We are talking A list Hollywood productions. Money should not be a consideration.
This shit had a $6 million budget. Not an A List production.
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This shit had a $6 million budget. Not an A List production.
Now Baldwin won't even get in B list productions.
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This shit had a $6 million budget. Not an A List production.
This is the impression I got too when reading about it. At this point in his career, Alec Baldwin probably isn't considered an 'A' list actor.
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This is the impression I got too when reading about it. At this point in his career, Alec Baldwin probably isn't considered an 'A' list actor.
Baldwin is an A list AHOLE
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Baldwin is an A list AHOLE
Superb!
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Baldwin was so distraught he dressed up and went trick or treating on Halloween.
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Baldwin was so distraught he dressed up and went trick or treating on Halloween.
I'm betting he used his "Trump" costume from SNL. Why? Because he wanted people to welcome him instead of tar and feather him. ;D
Baldwin deserves jail and the death penalty. I suspect he'll self identify as either a Blood or Crip so that Newsom will immediately release him from custody into the general poopulation. ;)
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-floats-reckless-claim-troubled-030101659.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-floats-reckless-claim-troubled-030101659.html
Trump said what most people were saying...
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Trump said what most people were saying...
It's hardly a hot take. More TDS.
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Trump would be an elite Getbigger.
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Trump said what most people were saying...
Yahoo is full of Obama
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https://nypost.com/2021/11/07/rust-worker-bitten-by-poisonous-spider-might-lose-arm
Geeezus.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/08/alec-baldwin-says-hollywood-should-hire-police-officers-to-vet-prop-guns.html
This from the same libfag who wanted to string up cops on an accident prior.
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What did I say?
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/11/17/2nd-rust-crew-member-sues-alec-baldwin-he-did-not-check-the-gun-himself-no-firing-in-upcoming-scene/
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Baldwin is going to have to pay millions no doubt.
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https://nypost.com/2021/11/07/rust-worker-bitten-by-poisonous-spider-might-lose-arm
Geeezus.
Those brown recluse spiders pack a mean bite! I'm being serious. I know someone who was bitten by one. The loss of tissue left a really nasty scar. I feel bad for Jason Miller. Not everyone one bitten by one of these devils suffers the same fate, in fact they usually are not dangerous. Never-the-less it is advised you seek medical attention ASAP.
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Those brown recluse spiders pack a mean bite! I'm being serious. I know someone who was bitten by one. The loss of tissue left a really nasty scar. I feel bad for Jason Miller. Not everyone one bitten by one of these devils suffers the same fate, in fact they usually are not dangerous. Never-the-less it is advised you seek medical attention ASAP.
I was bitten by one on the leg when i was 12.
Still have the scar from where they cut out the infection.
Nasty shit.
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Baldwin should face some consequence.....if I killed someone accidently they`d put me under the jail, but this fuckhead will more than likely just walk and he`s such a prick he probably couldn`t care less about his victims but he`ll be sure put on his best grief stricken Oscar winning level performance "acting" like he`s crushed.
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Baldwin should face some consequence.....if I killed someone accidently they`d put me under the jail, but this fuckhead will more than likely just walk and he`s such a prick he probably couldn`t care less about his victims but he`ll be sure put on his best grief stricken Oscar winning level performance "acting" like he`s crushed.
if u put down the paint can youd know he killed the lawyer who had dirt on the clintons
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The latest allegation on the news this am. It’s been claimed the scene they were shooting never had Alec shooting anyone. Sounds like he was fuqing around and karma took the opportunity
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Anyone charged with this murder yet?
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Baldwin should face some consequence.....if I killed someone accidently they`d put me under the jail, but this fuckhead will more than likely just walk and he`s such a prick he probably couldn`t care less about his victims but he`ll be sure put on his best grief stricken Oscar winning level performance "acting" like he`s crushed.
He made sure that there was a cameraman nearby....
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Anyone charged with this murder yet?
Kyle Rittenhouse.
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Kyle Rittenhouse.
haha or Trump
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Baldwin should face some consequence.....if I killed someone accidently they`d put me under the jail, but this fuckhead will more than likely just walk and he`s such a prick he probably couldn`t care less about his victims but he`ll be sure put on his best grief stricken Oscar winning level performance "acting" like he`s crushed.
eh, if you accidently shot a black kid you'd walk
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eh, if you accidently shot a black kid you'd walk
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eh, if you accidently shot a black kid you'd walk
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=675337.0;attach=1336734;image)
They capitalized "white". How DARE they!
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I wonder if Alec having a large member is in any way providing him cover from these charges?
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/entertainment/alec-baldwin-interview/index.html
Is it possible for the gun to go off without pulling the trigger? Or his lawyer told him to say this?
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/entertainment/alec-baldwin-interview/index.html
Is it possible for the gun to go off without pulling the trigger? Or his lawyer told him to say this?
Of the 40 years I've handled guns I've never had a single gun go off without touching the trigger. Granted my S&W .357 has a hair trigger when used as single action.
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Would have been a lot smarter to say he dropped it and it went off. Then again, there may be footage of the incident.
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Lawyer- I have to tell you Alec you’re totally screwed here, but I have one angle that could work.
Alec- I’m the finest actor in the world. If anyone can pull this off it is I!
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Of the 40 years I've handled guns I've never had a single gun go off without touching the trigger. Granted my S&W .357 has a hair trigger when used as single action.
Thank you for leaving a Ruger GP100 out of the discussion.
Baldwin's comments are in the passive voice, like (along the lines of), "it went off;" "it drove into the parade; "killed by a knife."
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/01/entertainment/alec-baldwin-interview/index.html
Is it possible for the gun to go off without pulling the trigger? Or his lawyer told him to say this?
Maybe? I haven't fucked with a revolver in years.
Is he saying that he pulled the hammer back and then accidentally let go of said hammer, thus striking the primer and firing a round with no trigger pull?
I think that can happen but I'm not 100% sure.
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Of the 40 years I've handled guns I've never had a single gun go off without touching the trigger. Granted my S&W .357 has a hair trigger when used as single action.
Especially a revolver. He either pulled the trigger directly or he pulled back the hammer and cocked it ready to fire and it went off on it's own by a jolt or pull of the trigger. There is no other way he fired the gun. It is almost impossible for it to fire any other way. He is an idiot making excuses.
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he will just get 50 hours of community service if that
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he will just get 50 hours of community service if that
Will they finish the movie?
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He said he probably won't do a movie where he'd have to shoot a gun
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Maybe? I haven't fucked with a revolver in years.
Is he saying that he pulled the hammer back and then accidentally let go of said hammer, thus striking the primer and firing a round with no trigger pull?
I think that can happen but I'm not 100% sure.
Not sure what model the revolver is but my Vaquero has a safety that would stop that from happening. If that guy was a single action and he pulled the hammer back and dropped it, it might fire.....maybe?
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Baldwin says he won't do another movie unless he's allowed to assassinate the cinematographer and incapacitate the director.
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Not sure what model the revolver is but my Vaquero has a safety that would stop that from happening. If that guy was a single action and he pulled the hammer back and dropped it, it might fire.....maybe?
Pretty sure I read that for the shot he was in a seated position in a church pew, and had to cross draw the revolver from his left side using his right hand, sweeping towards the camera and cocking the trigger at the same time. So he would end up pointing into the lens with a cocked gun. He says he fumbled the cocking motion and released at then end of the sweep before it had latched...
Apologies that I can't remember where I read this sequence of events, but it does seem to explain most of what happened - except for the loaded firearm part of course
I have absolutely no idea/opinion on whether the above is true or even possible, just leaving it here for the guys who do know about this stuff to comment on please
Baldwin says he won't do another movie unless he's allowed to assassinate the cinematographer and incapacitate the director.
(http://i.postimg.cc/kX5LjCdz/giphy.gif)
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Pretty sure I read that for the shot he was in a seated position in a church pew, and had to cross draw the revolver from his left side using his right hand, sweeping towards the camera and cocking the trigger at the same time. So he would end up pointing into the lens with a cocked gun. He says he fumbled the cocking motion and released at then end of the sweep before it had latched...
Apologies that I can't remember where I read this sequence of events, but it does seem to explain most of what happened - except for the loaded firearm part of course
I have absolutely no idea/opinion on whether the above is true or even possible, just leaving it here for the guys who do know about this stuff to comment on please
(http://i.postimg.cc/kX5LjCdz/giphy.gif)
Most single actions won't create enough force for the firing pin to set off the primer until the hammer is in the locked position for this exact reason. I say most because old antiques may fire, these type of things are changed for safety over time. Back in the good old day they used to carry their 6 shooters with 5 rounds due to that type of ND.
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Most single actions won't create enough force for the firing pin to set off the primer until the hammer is in the locked position for this exact reason. I say most because old antiques may fire, these type of things are changed for safety over time. Back in the good old day they used to carry their 6 shooters with 5 rounds due to that type of ND.
Thanks - that's the kind of knowledge I just don't have. So if the prop was an old POS, maybe had been cycled many many times over the years for multiple movies, then what he says is possible - even if very unlikely?
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Thanks - that's the kind of knowledge I just don't have. So if the prop was an old POS, maybe had been cycled many many times over the years for multiple movies, then what he says is possible - even if very unlikely?
Unlikely but not impossible. Still 100% no excuse for live ammo on a movie set and any person handed a gun should always check for clear themself, no excuses.
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Baldwin is a lying sociopathic piece of crap and so is his wife.
They are perfectly matched.
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Unlikely but not impossible. Still 100% no excuse for live ammo on a movie set and any person handed a gun should always check for clear themself, no excuses.
Absolutely - someone posted a clip where one of the Duke Bros showed the procedure - so yes he f**ked up
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Absolutely - someone posted a clip where one of the Duke Bros showed the procedure - so yes he f**ked up
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Hahaha - as I typed that I realised I'd left the door open, but I couldn't think of John Schneider's name at the time ;D
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Posted for informational purposes.
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Mortimer, we’re back!
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I don't see it happening either, usually when people have an accident with old SA type revolvers, it's either from fanning them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZEkZQQ6hk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZEkZQQ6hk) , or something banging the back of the hammer really hard (eg - the gun falling out of the holster and falling hammer first on to the floor, rocks, etc....). If it was a mechanical failure, they should be able to make it happen repeatedly, so far, we haven't seen anything like that.
That being said, old SA revolvers have long had a rep for being fragile, so I bet he or his lawyers looked them up, and concocted this story.
There are old product recalls (https://www.ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf), magazine articles, and youtube videos referencing that type of hammer malfunction that it can sway people not familiar.
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Of course he is lying. If that was the case he would have stated that as soon as it happen.
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When it's the right kind of person involved it is the inanimate object's fault...guns...SUVs...et c.
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Also if he was holding the gun with his finger off the trigger, where is the probable damage to his hand from flame, etc.... from the cylinder gap? -
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-19c90125e77c61dad4c2d6ed457c2700-c).
You'd have to hold it it in a very odd way to keep your finger off the trigger, and be safe from the cylinder gap if the gun went off.
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Obviously baldwin didnt intend to shoot and kill someone, the gun should never have had live rounds but its obvious he's spouting some bullshit
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Also if he was holding the gun with his finger off the trigger, where is the probable damage to his hand from flame, etc.... from the cylinder gap? -
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-19c90125e77c61dad4c2d6ed457c2700-c).
You'd have to hold it it in a very odd way to keep your finger off the trigger, and be safe from the cylinder gap if the gun went off.
Completely different gun.
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Completely different gun.
Sure, just using it as an explanation of what it is and where it comes out of for our non-gun friends.
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Sure, just using it as an explanation of what it is and where it comes out of for our non-gun friends.
Yeah but that picture you posted is a Chiappa Rino, the round actually fires from the bottom cylinder and the barrel is lower than the SA revolver he was using.
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Is it ok if I mention that I think Alec Baldwin is a dickhead and a moron. He's one of my least favorite people on planet Earth.
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How's hatchetman Alec Baldwin going to control his habit when he can't even suppress making finger-gun gestures towards the camera during a Good Morning America interview. He's telegraphing behavior consistent with someone who's jonesing to extinguish yet another camera operator.
Alec Baldwin's not going to be happy until they give him his own reality show on a remote jungle island where, armed and dressed as a big-game hunter, he gives movie crews a sportsmanlike head start before he tracks down and mops up every single one of them, from producer to production assistant, before retreating to his chateau and celebrating his massacre by smoking a pipe by the fireplace with his deaf-mute servant Ivan.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8Cg1Sgz7/FFv-SDan-WQAg0-CTn.jpg)
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Ban hands!
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Is it ok if I mention that I think Alec Baldwin is a dickhead and a moron. He's one of my least favorite people on planet Earth.
QFT.
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Is it ok if I mention that I think Alec Baldwin is a dickhead and a moron. He's one of my least favorite people on planet Earth.
Amen!
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I don't see it happening either, usually when people have an accident with old SA type revolvers, it's either from fanning them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZEkZQQ6hk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZEkZQQ6hk) , or something banging the back of the hammer really hard (eg - the gun falling out of the holster and falling hammer first on to the floor, rocks, etc....). If it was a mechanical failure, they should be able to make it happen repeatedly, so far, we haven't seen anything like that.
That being said, old SA revolvers have long had a rep for being fragile, so I bet he or his lawyers looked them up, and concocted this story.
There are old product recalls (https://www.ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf), magazine articles, and youtube videos referencing that type of hammer malfunction that it can sway people not familiar.
Ah, that phrase reminds me of the old Westerns, where they 'fanned' the gun to fire multiple shots quickly. In those cases (I presume) they just held the trigger down while they pulled the hammer back over and over again? To get around the need for it to fully cock? Or do they modify them so they can do this maybe?
Sorry for all the questions :)
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Ah, that phrase reminds me of the old Westerns, where they 'fanned' the gun to fire multiple shots quickly. In those cases (I presume) they just held the trigger down while they pulled the hammer back over and over again? To get around the need for it to fully cock? Or do they modify them so they can do this maybe?
Sorry for all the questions :)
With fanning, they may lengthen the hammer spur to make it longer or have it curve the the way a shooter likes, but there's still no way you could get it to fire without your finger on the trigger, unless the pistol was worn out some way mechanically, and that would be an easy thing for investigators to tell. When you fan them you have to physically be pulling back on the trigger.
There is a fast draw modification called a "Slip gun", where the hammer and trigger are modded (trigger removed or held back) so that you just need work the hammer to fire, but anyone using it would be able to tell it's "off". I can't see one like that being on set or even the stupidest props person /armorer letting regular cast handle it.
There really isn't anyway for a gun in good repair to go off unless it was banged decently on the hammer or he pulled the trigger while cocking it.
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Absolutely fascinating stuff - thank you both so much for posting - I genuinely learned a lot there from both videos
Does anyone know if has been reported whether the prop gun was single or double action? As that will pretty much show his second fatal error (the first apparently a failure to check the thing was safe when it was passed to him) I did try to Google it with no luck...
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With fanning, they may lengthen the hammer spur to make it longer or have it curve the the way a shooter likes, but there's still no way you could get it to fire without your finger on the trigger, unless the pistol was worn out some way mechanically, and that would be an easy thing for investigators to tell. When you fan them you have to physically be pulling back on the trigger.
There is a fast draw modification called a "Slip gun", where the hammer and trigger are modded (trigger removed or held back) so that you just need work the hammer to fire, but anyone using it would be able to tell it's "off". I can't see one like that being on set or even the stupidest props person /armorer letting regular cast handle it.
There really isn't anyway for a gun in good repair to go off unless it was banged decently on the hammer or he pulled the trigger while cocking it.
Thanks BB - those 2 videos I just watched really opened my eyes to this stuff too - I appreciate the detail. At this rate I'm going to sound like I know what I'm talking about to people over here ;D
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I almost reached through my phone and choked him when he looked down the barrel.
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Absolutely fascinating stuff - thank you both so much for posting - I genuinely learned a lot there from both videos
Does anyone know if has been reported whether the prop gun was single or double action? As that will pretty much show his second fatal error (the first apparently a failure to check the thing was safe when it was passed to him) I did try to Google it with no luck...
Single action. I believe just like the one Schneider is demonstrating in the video.
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I almost reached through my phone and choked him when he looked down the barrel.
Yeah, that was a bit too far :-\
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I almost reached through my phone and choked him when he looked down the barrel.
lol….my first thought when he did that was wtf? Lol
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Someone here mentioned Alec's great acting skills while telling this fable. I thought even if he was telling the truth, it appeared he was lying. This is one of those times when it would have been much wiser to keep his mouth shut...instead he repeated this nonsense a few more times.
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Someone here mentioned Alec's great acting skills while telling this fable. I thought even if he was telling the truth, it appeared he was lying. This is one of those times when it would have been much wiser to keep his mouth shut...instead he repeated this nonsense a few more times.
A person who may have to stand trial should never give interviews. It can and will be used against them in court.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10377455/New-Mexico-New-York-police-work-Baldwin-phone.html
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10377455/New-Mexico-New-York-police-work-Baldwin-phone.html
They are still reporting the impossible. ::)
"The '30 Rock' actor has said he was holding a revolver on the film set when it went off during rehearsal in October, firing a live round that killed Hutchins"
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Was the young lady who died obese? Did she have any known co-morbidities?
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I would seriously curb stomp his face in, him and David schwimmer
Any time I hear the opening music to FRIENDS, it immediately throws me into a rage, and I immediately want to see David Schwimmer's head crushed by a dumptruck.
Any updates on the Baldwin shooting case?
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Any time I hear the opening music to FRIENDS, it immediately throws me into a rage, and I immediately want to see David Schwimmer's head crushed by a dumptruck.
Any updates on the Baldwin shooting case?
Yes, the victim is still dead.
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Any time I hear the opening music to FRIENDS, it immediately throws me into a rage, and I want to see David Schwimmer's head crushed by a dumptruck.
Isn’t that essentially my quote, dude?
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Any time I hear the opening music to FRIENDS, it immediately throws me into a rage, and I want to see David Schwimmer's head crushed by a dumptruck.
Hail and Kill.
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Alec Baldwin is walking as a free man, Kim Potter is looking at 20 year sentence. Clown world
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Was the young lady who died obese? Did she have any known co-morbidities?
She had a lead allergy.
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She had a lead allergy.
;D
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Any time I hear the opening music to FRIENDS, it immediately throws me into a rage, and I want to see David Schwimmer's head crushed by a dumptruck.
Hail and Kill.
;D
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/just-in-alec-baldwin-being-sued-by-slain-cinematographer-halyna-hutchins-family-for-reckless-conduct?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR2ve8RZgGI5Gqgadw7blhKGYxY9Ulsjbtl_YowUUId_jCVpecV8KQZPX6E
Good - lock him up!
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Alec Baldwin & ‘Rust’ Movie Sued For Wrongful Death By Halyna Hutchins Estate; Lawyers Make Case With Animated Re-Enactment
Deadline ^ | 2/15/2022 | Dominic Patten
Posted on 2/15/2022, 2:26:17 PM by
The family of slain Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has officially filed a wrongful-death lawsuit over the on-set shooting by Alec Baldwin that took the filmmaker’s life last October in New Mexico.
“Halyna Hutchins deserved to live, and the Defendants had the power to prevent her death if they had only held sacrosanct their duty to protect the safety of every individual on a set where firearms were present instead of cutting corners on safety procedures where human lives were at stake, rushing to stay on schedule and ignoring numerous complaints of safety violations,” declares the complaint against star/producer Baldwin, a slew of production companies and entities, producers. Also named are some key crew members, such as armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed and Assistant Director David Halls., who have both been at the center of the October 21, 2021 tragic incident.
“This lawsuit seeks justice for the losses of her survivors and to hold responsible those who caused her tragic death,” the 29-page filing from Albuquerque firm McGinn Montoya Love & Curry says (read it here).
“Defendant Baldwin, the Producers, and the Rust Production Companies were aware of firearms safety issues that had occurred on the set of Rust and did not take action to correct the situation and ensure that basic gun safety rules were followed on October 21, 2021,” the suit goes on to say. “Had Defendant Baldwin, the Producers, and the Rust Production Companies taken adequate precautions to ensure firearm safety on the set of Rust or if basic firearm safety rules had been followed on the set of Rust on October 21, 2021, Halyna Hutchins would be alive and well, hugging her husband and nine-year old son.”
(Excerpt) Read more at deadline.com ...
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Isn’t that essentially my quote, dude?
Haha, yeah. I copied it. Great post. ;D ;D
Just to hear the first few seconds of the Friends theme has me raging.
I want to watch David Schwimmer’s head being crushed under the wheels of a dump truck.
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Haha, yeah. I copied it. Great post. ;D ;D
Thanks, my man. :)
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anti-gun hollywood libtard alec baldwin: gun kills = 1
pro-gun firearm owner of 9 firearms since 1980 (me): gun kills = 0
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JULlsxAW780/maxresdefault.jpg)
Took the FBI months to discover the obvious.
What forensic testing reveals about revolver in on-set 'Rust' shooting
The gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger, according to an FBI forensic report obtained Friday by ABC News.
Actor Alec Baldwin shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the Western, which he was producing and starring in, last year. The actor believed he was handling a "cold gun" -- one without live ammunition -- when it went off and a live bullet struck Hutchins, killing her. The film's director, Joel Souza, was also wounded in the shooting.
Accidental discharge testing determined that the firearm used in the shooting -- a .45 Colt (.45 Long Colt) caliber F.lli Pietta single-action revolver -- could not have fired without the trigger being pulled, the FBI report shows.
With the hammer in the quarter- and half-cock positions, the gun "could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger," the report stated.
With the hammer fully cocked, the gun "could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger while the working internal components were intact and functional," the report stated.
With the hammer de-cocked on a loaded chamber, the gun was able to detonate a primer "without a pull of the trigger when the hammer was struck directly," which is normal for this type of revolver, the report stated.
In an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos in December, Baldwin said he didn't pull the trigger on the gun.
"The trigger wasn't pulled," he said. "I didn't pull the trigger."
abcnews.go.com/US/gun-rust-shooting-fired-pulling-trigger-fbi-report/story?id=88311336
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Wiggs posted about this very thing about 10 years ago.
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anti-gun hollywood libtard alec baldwin: gun kills = 1
pro-gun firearm owner of 9 firearms since 1980 (me): gun kills = 0
You gotta bump those rookie numbers up.
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You gotta bump those rookie numbers up.
Alec Baldwin ::) ::) ::) ::)
Another hero to the brainless libturdz??
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Alec Baldwin ::) ::) ::) ::)
Another hero to the brainless libturdz??
I will all but Guarantee that he has visited Epstein Island
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I will all but Guarantee that he has visited Epstein Island
Agreed, sir.
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JULlsxAW780/maxresdefault.jpg)
Took the FBI months to discover the obvious.
What forensic testing reveals about revolver in on-set 'Rust' shooting
The gun used in the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set could not have been fired without pulling the trigger, according to an FBI forensic report obtained Friday by ABC News.
Actor Alec Baldwin shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the Western, which he was producing and starring in, last year. The actor believed he was handling a "cold gun" -- one without live ammunition -- when it went off and a live bullet struck Hutchins, killing her. The film's director, Joel Souza, was also wounded in the shooting.
Accidental discharge testing determined that the firearm used in the shooting -- a .45 Colt (.45 Long Colt) caliber F.lli Pietta single-action revolver -- could not have fired without the trigger being pulled, the FBI report shows.
With the hammer in the quarter- and half-cock positions, the gun "could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger," the report stated.
With the hammer fully cocked, the gun "could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger while the working internal components were intact and functional," the report stated.
With the hammer de-cocked on a loaded chamber, the gun was able to detonate a primer "without a pull of the trigger when the hammer was struck directly," which is normal for this type of revolver, the report stated.
In an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos in December, Baldwin said he didn't pull the trigger on the gun.
"The trigger wasn't pulled," he said. "I didn't pull the trigger."
abcnews.go.com/US/gun-rust-shooting-fired-pulling-trigger-fbi-report/story?id=88311336
No shit, really? You mean triggers don't just 'pull' themselves.
Alec Baldwin is such an arrogant prick to think people are so stupid that they'd believe it. Problem is he's not entirely wrong: a lot of people ARE that stupid. Ya know Guns kill people all the time.
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He will still get away with it.
Points loaded unverified weapon at person and pulls trigger.
He deserves to be in prison.
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No shit, really? You mean triggers don't just 'pull' themselves.
Alec Baldwin is such an arrogant prick to think people are so stupid that they'd believe it. Problem is he's not entirely wrong: a lot of people ARE that stupid. Ya know Guns kill people all the time.
The anti-gun (for civilians) establishment is trying to frame this as the gun's fault, not Mr. Baldwin. So they will rally around him. Not sure he will ever see prison.
Note that the anti-gun establishment is only anti-gun when it comes to civilians owning them. They are not anti-gun when it comes to the government or those tasked with protecting them. Nice double standards at play here.
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Why would he want to shoot her? What would be the motive
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Why would he want to shoot her? What would be the motive
He's a method actor.
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He's a method actor.
;D
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I’m curious how similar people have been punished.
Can he just get off with probation and a fine?
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Why would he want to shoot her? What would be the motive
I don't believe his intent was to kill her. Actors fuck around on set all the time. I believe he thought the gun was unloaded OR had blanks.
But he undoubtedly pulled the trigger. That he's saying he didn't is what makes him look worse. He's so arrogant he can't admit to a mistake. He's above mistakes.
Remember how he roasted Dick Cheney? Well he can't very well be that dumb. At least he can't admit to it.
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Why would he want to shoot her? What would be the motive
I believe that her husband is a famous lawyer in Los Angeles... maybe the lawyer wanted her dead. Or maybe some Hollywood elites had a problem with her, and used Alec to make her go away.
And somehow she was also Ukrainian. I wonder if she ever worked with Sean Penn? WTF
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Solid build on this broad
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I don't believe his intent was to kill her. Actors fuck around on set all the time. I believe he thought the gun was unloaded OR had blanks.
But he undoubtedly pulled the trigger. That he's saying he didn't is what makes him look worse. He's so arrogant he can't admit to a mistake. He's above mistakes.
Remember how he roasted Dick Cheney? Well he can't very well be that dumb. At least he can't admit to it.
What's his getbig handle?
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What's his getbig handle?
Alec Baldwin can shoot a defenseless woman, but can he shoot ropes like Peter North?
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The reason he doesn’t admit to firing the gun must come back to
legal ramifications.
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First, lady cinematographer, then Anne Heche. Alec Baldwin is killing off our trim blondes. >:(
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Solid build on this broad
And Baldwin’s instincts were to pick up a gun, point it at her, and pull the trigger.
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The reason he doesn’t admit to firing the gun must come back to
legal ramifications.
Maybe. He was handed a gun that he was told was "safe" meaning unloaded. Its a film so there's not even supposed to be live rounds. He can claim plausible deniability. He'll probably even escape a manslaughter charge. He's lying about not pulling the trigger probably to protect the person who handed him a loaded gun and thereby also protect his production company. He litteraly blaming the gun.
But if he tells this story under oath in a criminal proceeding or even a civil proceeding he could be held in contempt or charged with perjury. Unlikely but possible.
In any event he will forevermore be a smug prick whose arrogance cost a woman her life. Maybe the guilt or shame will cause him to finally shut the fuck up.
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I’m still waiting for the Saturday night live skit of trump reacting the scene as Alec Baldwin :D
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/02/23/baldwin-enters-plea-but-judge-sets-restrictions-on-release-he-may-not-like-n707774?fbclid=IwAR0t5lb152uXHBlz8hhXian8Y8xQkPhVYykyMhRLZCGViJjGonHoz9LR3f0
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He’s going to get convicted on something and probably do a little time either in a jail or at home with some jewelry, if he isn’t it’s a travesty of justice. But here’s my question, if he is convicted will there be a stipulation in his release that he can’t be around a firearm. At home that’s an automatic yes, but would require him to stay away any movie set he may star in or produce with firearms?
Does this make sense?
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He’s going to get convicted on something and probably do a little time either in a jail or at home with some jewelry, if he isn’t it’s a travesty of justice. But here’s my question, if he is convicted will there be a stipulation in his release that he can’t be around a firearm. At home that’s an automatic yes, but would require him to stay away any movie set he may star in or produce with firearms?
Does this make sense?
I think he supports the use of only fake guns on set.
Think of all lives he will save; the left will saint him.
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He’s going to get convicted on something and probably do a little time either in a jail or at home with some jewelry, if he isn’t it’s a travesty of justice. But here’s my question, if he is convicted will there be a stipulation in his release that he can’t be around a firearm. At home that’s an automatic yes, but would require him to stay away any movie set he may star in or produce with firearms?
Does this make sense?
Gun control isn't appropriate for Hollywood stars. They advocate for it - they don't abide by it.
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Gun control isn't appropriate for Hollywood stars. They advocate for it - they don't abide by it.
Same with their beliefs on "wealth inequality" and segregation.
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He’s going to get convicted on something and probably do a little time either in a jail or at home with some jewelry, if he isn’t it’s a travesty of justice. But here’s my question, if he is convicted will there be a stipulation in his release that he can’t be around a firearm. At home that’s an automatic yes, but would require him to stay away any movie set he may star in or produce with firearms?
Does this make sense?
Unless he was having an affair with woman. It doesn't make sense. You have the armorer on set. It's an actual job. Load the guns with blanks and hand it off to Alec.
Why the fuck would there be live ammo on the set to begin with?
So yes, you want to convict Alec of something, make him negligent as a producer. As one of the producers, you help run the show.
I'd ask wtf, is live ammunition doing on this set? You want to play with real guns, go to a shooting range.
But there are usually multiple producers as well.
Was he the Director?
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Alec Balschin is hoping to be convicted so he can get buttfucked silly in the can. I hope he dies in jail.
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SHIZZO, Did that 'live ammo on the set' question ever get resolved?
I have not followed this case so I ask in earnest.
Also .... What happened to the armorer?
In my humble opinion these are the principle 'antagonists':
1. The individual who brought live ammo on the set. (20 yrs confinement)
2. The armorer. (20 years confinement)
3. The individual who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. (12 years confinement)
Wore a firearm on my hip for many years but I never shot anyone by accident that I can remember!
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SHIZZO, Did that 'live ammo on the set' question ever get resolved?
I have not followed this case so I ask in earnest.
Also .... What happened to the armorer?
In my humble opinion these are the principle 'antagonists':
1. The individual who brought live ammo on the set. (20 yrs confinement)
2. The armorer. (20 years confinement)
3. The individual who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. (12 years confinement)
Wore a firearm on my hip for many years but I never shot anyone by accident that I can remember!
Yeah, a lot of people fucked up for this to happen.
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Charges dropped
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12000847/CALLAHAN-charges-against-Alec-Baldwin-dropped-disgrace-is.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR0-SeRuHK6k3UTJpLF5lYi5UYtNQvAJIbD3IOEe8oCl-eKA5Z7YFQ0jqoc&mibextid=unz460
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What better way to celebrate not being charged with manslaughter than to post self-serving photos to social media, resume production on the very film in which you accidentally shot a young wife and mother to death, and begin filming a 'reality documentary' about this entirely avoidable tragedy?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109337-12000847-image-m-2_1682113959415.jpg)(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109389-12000847-image-m-4_1682113991355.jpg)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109743-12000847-image-a-6_1682114225072.jpg)
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This was a big defeat for the haters. Next up, Bhank’s victory!
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Charges dropped
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12000847/CALLAHAN-charges-against-Alec-Baldwin-dropped-disgrace-is.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR0-SeRuHK6k3UTJpLF5lYi5UYtNQvAJIbD3IOEe8oCl-eKA5Z7YFQ0jqoc&mibextid=unz460
Good for him.
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Guy sucks.
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What better way to celebrate not being charged with manslaughter than to post self-serving photos to social media, resume production on the very film in which you accidentally shot a young wife and mother to death, and begin filming a 'reality documentary' about this entirely avoidable tragedy?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109337-12000847-image-m-2_1682113959415.jpg)(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109389-12000847-image-m-4_1682113991355.jpg)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/21/22/70109743-12000847-image-a-6_1682114225072.jpg)
He must be hurting financially.
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If he were bald he would be on death row as we speak
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What is going in this weird ass photo?
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What is going in this weird ass photo?
He be makin' dat dere "art".
Fuck him. I hope he dies sooner rather than later. Living is too good for him.
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Very weird pictures
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What is going in this weird ass photo?
Just liberals in their natural habitat
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Very weird pictures
Weird people.
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https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/us-news/rust-armorer-hannah-gutierrez-sentenced-in-death-of-halyna-hutchins/
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Celebs need to be removed.
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(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.Z7xF9bdUOjJa8eMFZwXxggHaHa?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)
(https://i.imgflip.com/5rmmhu.jpg)
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.69EenzKeRmPW-mB2e_cXJQHaHI?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)
“To watch Mr. Baldwin’s conduct on the set of ‘Rust’ is to witness a man who has absolutely no control of
his emotions and absolutely no concern for how his conduct effects those around him,”
The prosecutors accused Baldwin, the movie’s lead producer, of hiring Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, a “young and inexperienced armorer,”
then age 24, to handle all the film’s guns.
They said other crew members noticed she was inexperienced and overwhelmed.
“Curiously, Mr. Baldwin, the most experienced member of the cast and crew, seems to have missed what everyone else noticed — Hannah Gutierrez was not up to the job,” the court filing said.
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She didn't pull the trigger
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Good for him.
Fuck your self
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Baldwin is a murderer.
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(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/rust-documentary-779.jpg)
The murdered victim could’ve had a bright future in the NPC JM Manion Stick Your Ass Out Contest
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(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/11/rust-documentary-779.jpg)
The murdered victim could’ve had a bright future in the NPC JM Manion Stick Your Ass Out Contest
Probably murdered because she refused to sleep with the angry creep.
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Probably murdered because she refused to sleep with the angry creep.
What makes you think Jim Manion is angry?
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Baldwin is a murderer.
Depends on the definition. If you are using the legal term for here in the US... it's highly questionable. If you are simply a simpleton who hates Baldwin because he made fun of Trump, he absolutely is a murderer. But here in the US they use a different standard than Getbig so we'll have to wait and see. After all, they did have a hired person (armorer) in charge of the weapons on site... I don't mean to sway you from your preconceived ill-informed conclusion, I'm just suggesting you let the facts run their course. So many movies have guns on the set. To expect every actor involved in the movie to be proficient is unreasonable. How do we know this? They hire professional armorers. So at the end of the day, the responsibility falls on that person's shoulders
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SHIZZO, Did that 'live ammo on the set' question ever get resolved?
I have not followed this case so I ask in earnest.
Also .... What happened to the armorer?
In my humble opinion these are the principle 'antagonists':
1. The individual who brought live ammo on the set. (20 yrs confinement)
2. The armorer. (20 years confinement)
3. The individual who pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. (12 years confinement)
Wore a firearm on my hip for many years but I never shot anyone by accident that I can remember!
as did I, but you have to have some faith in the expert you hired to insure the guns were safe when dealing with non professionals (actors)
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as did I, but you have to have some faith in the expert you hired to insure the guns were safe when dealing with non professionals (actors)
1. What's the armorer's job on a movie set?
2. What are rules 1&2?
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1. What's the armors job on a movie set?
2. What’s rule #2
This is above your head. We are not talking about "general" things.. we are in the legal realm. Expectations. IF you and I are out in the field and you hand me a gun, I have to reasonably assume it is loaded until I verify it myself. It is not a "law" it is supposed to be common safe gun practice. I guarantee you that is not reality in the real world though it should be. THAT is exactly why they hire armorers on the set of movies... professionals who have made it their life's work to ensure gun safety around people not familiar with or trained in firearms. That we are arguing this pretty much tells me you have let your political bias interfere with common sense. On the other hand, if TRUMP was filming a promotional for a campaign on a set with a professional armorer who was hired to make the set safe, and Trump shot a camera man, I would be the 1st to say, hang the armorer, Trump was not trained in firearms, should not be expected to know the difference between a dummy round and a live round.... See. that is one of the differences between you and I. I don't base my judgment on anything but facts. Politics be damned.
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This is above your head. We are not talking about "general" things.. we are in the legal realm. Expectations. IF you and I are out in the field and you hand me a gun, I have to reasonably assume it is loaded until I verify it myself. It is not a "law" it is supposed to be common safe gun practice. I guarantee you that is not reality in the real world though it should be. THAT is exactly why they hire armorers on the set of movies... professionals who have made it their life's work to ensure gun safety around people not familiar with or trained in firearms. That we are arguing this pretty much tells me you have let your political bias interfere with common sense. On the other hand, if TRUMP was filming a promotional for a campaign on a set with a professional armorer who was hired to make the set safe, and Trump shot a camera man, I would be the 1st to say, hang the armorer, Trump was not trained in firearms, should not be expected to know the difference between a dummy round and a live round.... See. that is one of the differences between you and I. I don't base my judgment on anything but facts. Politics be damned.
You’re Trump obsessed. This has nothing to do with Trump or politics and this isn’t Baldwins first rodeo with firearms. That being said, no matter how many times an actor has handled a firearm on the set that doesn’t exclude them from listening to the armorer. Now, answer the question. Unless he shot her intentionally those rules do come into play legally.
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This is above your head. We are not talking about "general" things.. we are in the legal realm. Expectations. IF you and I are out in the field and you hand me a gun, I have to reasonably assume it is loaded until I verify it myself. It is not a "law" it is supposed to be common safe gun practice. I guarantee you that is not reality in the real world though it should be. THAT is exactly why they hire armorers on the set of movies... professionals who have made it their life's work to ensure gun safety around people not familiar with or trained in firearms. That we are arguing this pretty much tells me you have let your political bias interfere with common sense. On the other hand, if TRUMP was filming a promotional for a campaign on a set with a professional armorer who was hired to make the set safe, and Trump shot a camera man, I would be the 1st to say, hang the armorer, Trump was not trained in firearms, should not be expected to know the difference between a dummy round and a live round.... See. that is one of the differences between you and I. I don't base my judgment on anything but facts. Politics be damned.
Trump owns your mind. That can't be healthy.
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You’re Trump obsessed. This has nothing to do with Trump or politics and this isn’t Baldwins first rodeo with firearms. That being said, no matter how many times an actor has handled a firearm on the set that doesn’t exclude them from listening to the armorer. Now, answer the question. Unless he shot her intentionally those rules do come into play legally.
Blah blah blah
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Trump owns your mind. That can't be healthy.
meaningless post.. They should subtract it from your count it is that worthless
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meaningless post.. They should subtract it from your count it is that worthless
He’s not wrong
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He’s not wrong
The fact you support it seals it. He is wrong
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This is above your head. We are not talking about "general" things.. we are in the legal realm. Expectations. IF you and I are out in the field and you hand me a gun, I have to reasonably assume it is loaded until I verify it myself. It is not a "law" it is supposed to be common safe gun practice. I guarantee you that is not reality in the real world though it should be. THAT is exactly why they hire armorers on the set of movies... professionals who have made it their life's work to ensure gun safety around people not familiar with or trained in firearms. That we are arguing this pretty much tells me you have let your political bias interfere with common sense. On the other hand, if TRUMP was filming a promotional for a campaign on a set with a professional armorer who was hired to make the set safe, and Trump shot a camera man, I would be the 1st to say, hang the armorer, Trump was not trained in firearms, should not be expected to know the difference between a dummy round and a live round.... See. that is one of the differences between you and I. I don't base my judgment on anything but facts. Politics be damned.
You have Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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You have Trump Derangement Syndrome.
The kind of guy that makes popcorn to watch Rachel Maddow.
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The kind of guy that makes popcorn to watch Rachel Maddow.
Lmao
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Pretty obvious that Trump was the killer...
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The kind of guy that makes popcorn to watch Rachel Maddow.
;D
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Baldwin losing his cool... Big surprise... "Why did you kill that lady"???
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782553826580377611
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Baldwin losing his cool... Big surprise... "Why did you kill that lady"???
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782553826580377611
He’s starting to resemble Bill O’Reilly
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He’s starting to resemble Bill O’Reilly
With age, he lost his moviestar looks
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/07/alec-baldwin-043.jpg)
(https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50026/1000513263/original/young-alec-baldwin-in-buttoned-shirt-photo-u1?auto=format&q=60&fit=crop&fm=pjpg&dpr=2&w=375)
(https://people.com/thmb/Gucl-pIj1Bk07BRUs-raV-qBG4k=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(999x0:1001x2)/baldwin-brothers-45ec4a2a7d54439fb16ca0881ca6eb47.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex5wPRvU4AMjn76.jpg)
Bodybuilding-related?
(https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5420611b2e32fc85609d736c/master/w_320%2Cc_limit/image.jpg)
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Even when young he was crazy with the gun and shooting people
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGAGuRqXUAEzAd1.jpg)
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C unt should have received more prison time!
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Mean, crusty Liblefttard scumbag.
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Extremely ghey gang of retards....
Lining up for a "PrimeMuscle Groin Gravy Guzzling" at 'Ye Olde Glory Hole' no doubt..
(https://people.com/thmb/Gucl-pIj1Bk07BRUs-raV-qBG4k=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(999x0:1001x2)/baldwin-brothers-45ec4a2a7d54439fb16ca0881ca6eb47.jpg)
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Extremely ghey gang of retards....
Lining up for a "PrimeMuscle Groin Gravy Guzzling" at 'Ye Olde Glory Hole' no doubt..
(https://people.com/thmb/Gucl-pIj1Bk07BRUs-raV-qBG4k=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(999x0:1001x2)/baldwin-brothers-45ec4a2a7d54439fb16ca0881ca6eb47.jpg)
High on enthusiasm preceding the cock buffet.
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Baldwin is a murderer.
He took the greiving family to Denny's and bought them breakfast. Hes paid his dues for what happened.
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He took the greiving family to Denny's and bought them breakfast. Hes paid his dues for what happened.
Which breakfast? The Super Slam may be worth it. :P
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Which breakfast? The Super Slam may be worth it. :P
Anything they wanted from the menu, all paid for by Alec...that is more than enough compensation and then some.
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Anything they wanted from the menu, all paid for by Alec...that is more than enough compensation and then some.
This
Their families are good now...