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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on October 20, 2006, 12:21:50 PM
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I find it highly amusing that the majority of idiots here would call this small.
I stated this to be my overall goal 185 lbs at about the same height, which isn`t too far off.
I love how everyone who had something negative to say HAS NEVER EVEN TOUCHED 185 lbs RIPPED.
I find it highly amusing that they THINK they look better. No reason why that is. Anyone have any insight?
With that, I give you
Flex Wheeler, 5`10 185 lbs.
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Just shows you how delusional people really are.
Most people here are clearly all fat I have noticed. They are fooling themselves if they think they are going to diet down and be bigger than Flex Wheeler at that height....At least most people that I have seen.(Groink and many others)
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He looks good, but i rather be fuller than be skin and bones...flex's legs must wiegh a combined 45 lbs there .
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Gee, I thought you LOVED everyone here and that you wanted to share your spoils with them...
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Gee, I thought you LOVED everyone here and that you wanted to share your spoils with them...
You are perfect evidence of what I will now call, Delusionus Obeseysus.
These creatures always think their bodyfat is 12-15 percent at all given times even though all evidence points to the contrary.
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Gee, I thought you LOVED everyone here and that you wanted to share your spoils with them...
So you think if you dieted down you would carry more than 187 lbs?
Just curious.
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If I dieted down to TA levels I would be around 185 myself.....
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wow, I would have guessed he was heavier than 187 there. Looks very good at that weight.
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This is why I stated flex wheeler should not be in the realm of the Sergio's, Arnold's and Colemans of the world when speaking of RAW genetics for bodybuilding. 185 lbs juiced to the face. He looks incredable. But this video proves Flex was a genetic mutant when it came to shape and DRUG response.
He looks outstanding there.
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wow, I would have guessed he was heavier than 187 there. Looks very good at that weight.
Just goes to show you how stupid people really are when they think they would look better than that and be bigger.
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This is why I stated flex wheeler should not be in the realm of the Sergios Arnolds and Colemans of the world. 185 lbs juiced t o the face. He looks incredable. but this video proves Flex was a genetic mutant when it came to shape and DRUG response.
He looks outstanding there.
Makes you wonder about his drug response as well....Was it really that great? Others may have been using less and gotten better results. Perhaps he was using mega-doses by 2000....
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There is no point in comparing yourself at 185 with Flex Wheeler at 185. Apples and Oranges. Second...I could care less what someone weighs. He looks huge at 185. I like like an anorexic at 185. Weight doesn't tell much about a persons size. Go by what the mirror tells you.
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Makes you wonder about his drug response as well....Was it really that great? Others may have been using less and gotten better results. Perhaps he was using mega-doses by 2000....
I can only speculate. But with his kidney issues I think you may be right. They guy looked amazing in that video. hell he looked amazing at any weight. but Flex was a guy you can with confidence say "all drugs" to. Without the sauce Mr Wheeler would have been a ripped 150.
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There is no point in comparing yourself at 185 with Flex Wheeler at 185. Apples and Oranges. Second...I could care less what someone weighs. He looks huge at 185. I like like an anorexic at 185. Weight doesn't tell much about a persons size. Go by what the mirror tells you.
Please post a picture to show what you look like at 185.
Are you ripped at this weight. I bet you are fat.
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I can only speculate. But with his kidney issues I think you may be right. They guy looked amazing in that video. hell he looked amazing at any weight. but Flex was a guy you can with confidence say "all drugs" to. Without the sauce Mr Wheeler would have been a ripped 150.
I bet even at 150 lbs ripped he would look great.
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If I dieted down to TA levels I would be around 185 myself.....
You wouldn't even weigh 185 at 20% body fat.
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found this on the same page.
Bob back in the day lookin good
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I bet even at 150 lbs ripped he would look great.
I agree. Flex had amazing genetics for shape and proportion.
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for a balding guy with absolutely the hugest ears I have ever seen he sure is arrogant.
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You wouldn't even weigh 185 at 20% body fat.
The Majority of people here wouldn`t. hahahah
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There is no fucking NATURAL on this board that is 190 at 2 percent bodyfat. I would love to meet a 5'10 natural 190 at 2 percent bodyfat. They are few and far between. People seem to think 2 percent bodyfat means 8 percent bf.
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There is no fucking NATURAL on this board that is 190 at 2 percent bodyfat. I would love to meet a 5'10 natural at 2 percent bodyfat. They are few and far between.
There is no natural 185 at 2 percent on this board.Under 6 ft I should say.
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Dexter was another guy who looked awesome lighter. Same thing with branch. Check them out from the teen nationals.
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Im at 8-10% bf at 210 natty ....
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Flex sure could hold a pose ::)
;D
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Dexter was another guy who looked awesome lighter. Same thing with branch. Check them out from the teen nationals.
Most bodybuilders look way better lighter.
What in the world did Branch look like? The way I see it, Branch has crossed the Rubicon and the die is cast for him. He has destroyed himself. Got some pics of him before the disaster??
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I find it highly amusing that the majority of idiots here would call this small.
I stated this to be my overall goal 185 lbs at about the same height, which isn`t too far off.
I love how everyone who had something negative to say HAS NEVER EVEN TOUCHED 185 lbs RIPPED.
I find it highly amusing that they THINK they look better. No reason why that is. Anyone have any insight?
With that, I give you
Flex Wheeler, 5`10 185 lbs.
Flex Wheeler is one of the best and most symetrical/proportional bbdr's ever.
PB
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I agree. Flex had amazing genetics for shape and proportion.
Yep, awesome genetics.
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No matter how stupid and bad person he is, Flex is great when it comes to BBing.
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Incidentally, TP and some other fools on mayhem said Branch got his grainyness from balls-to-the-wall hardcore training. Englighten me - since he is the only one who has this degree of grainyness and vascularity, can we conclude he is the only pro who trains hard? ::) How stupid to suggest that training, of all things, creates this look. In reality, it is a combination of a lot of things, training being one of them, but moreso drugs and nutrition - hitting your peak right, etc.
Well, if Tom prince said so, it must be true...................
LOL! ;D
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Dexter was another guy who looked awesome lighter. Same thing with branch. Check them out from the teen nationals.
Here's Dexter as a lightweight amateur:
As far as Flex looking better at 187? I think he looks better at a heavier bodyweight. With the structure that Flex is gifted with he looked great at any bodyweight.
(http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/f_242.jpg)
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deputy sheriff eh.. but anyway flex is and always will be one of the greatest bb'ers ever ,great clip
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What are you smoking ! Dex looks like a cancer patient there.
Looks much better now. Not even close on that one.
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Here is wheeler 10 months after the 1989:
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You mean 10 years??
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What are you smoking ! Dex looks like a cancer patient there.
Looks much better now. Not even close on that one.
Bodybuilding is subjective. That is not the time period I was talking about. That was from when dex was really young. The picture I was talking about he is older than that. I think Branch and Dex looked far better lighter. Matt do you have that shot of Dex in the front lat spread? From when he was younger.
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Here's Dexter as a lightweight amateur:
As far as Flex looking better at 187? I think he looks better at a heavier bodyweight. With the structure that Flex is gifted with he looked great at any bodyweight.
(http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/f_242.jpg)
THat is not the video I was talking about. That is from when he was a teen. I made a mistake. The picture of dex was from years ago but not when he was that young. It is a picture of him in a front lat spread.
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You are perfect evidence of what I will now call, Delusionus Obeseysus.
These creatures always think their bodyfat is 12-15 percent at all given times even though all evidence points to the contrary.
??? At least make a sensible comment...
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??? At least make a sensible comment...
I made a sensible comment. Do YOU think you will be ripped at 185 lbs?
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I made a sensible comment. Do YOU think you will be ripped at 185 lbs?
My guess is that Chris Mason is in the high teens as far as body fat.
But lets for arguments sake suggest that he is at 25%.
He weighs 230 lbs.
To be ripped, he would have to get to 5%.
Meaning shredding 20 %.
46 lbs.
You claim it is possible to diet down without losing one ounce of muscle. Ok.
230-46=184
If Mason would be as high as 25, which I highly doubt, he still would be ripped at more or less 185 lbs.
YIP
Zack
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Right now I am 280 with 35 pecent bodyfat. I got it checked in one of those water tank things at a gym. Doesnt that mean I could be fairly ripped at 185? Not like I ever will do it but wouldnt it be possible? Also dont worry I know I am a fatass I'm not trying to prove anything.
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My guess is that Chris Mason is in the high teens as far as body fat.
But lets for arguments sake suggest that he is at 25%.
He weighs 230 lbs.
To be ripped, he would have to get to 5%.
Meaning shredding 20 %.
46 lbs.
You claim it is possible to diet down without losing one ounce of muscle. Ok.
230-46=184
If Mason would be as high as 25, which I highly doubt, he still would be ripped at more or less 185 lbs.
YIP
Zack
Great!
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My guess is that Chris Mason is in the high teens as far as body fat.
But lets for arguments sake suggest that he is at 25%.
He weighs 230 lbs.
To be ripped, he would have to get to 5%.
Meaning shredding 20 %.
46 lbs.
You claim it is possible to diet down without losing one ounce of muscle. Ok.
230-46=184
If Mason would be as high as 25, which I highly doubt, he still would be ripped at more or less 185 lbs.
YIP
Zack
He is higher than 25 percent bodyfat. I wish he would diet down so he would realize this.
Same thing with you Zack. You need to diet down so you will realize.
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Right now I am 280 with 35 pecent bodyfat. I got it checked in one of those water tank things at a gym. Doesnt that mean I could be fairly ripped at 185? Not like I ever will do it but wouldnt it be possible? Also dont worry I know I am a fatass I'm not trying to prove anything.
Yes it's possible. You will have to eat a LOT of icecream though.
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Right now I am 280 with 35 pecent bodyfat. I got it checked in one of those water tank things at a gym. Doesnt that mean I could be fairly ripped at 185? Not like I ever will do it but wouldnt it be possible? Also dont worry I know I am a fatass I'm not trying to prove anything.
You are way higher than 35 percent.
Please post a picture.
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He is higher than 25 percent bodyfat. I wish he would diet down so he would realize this.
Same thing with you Zack. You need to diet down so you will realize.
Yes he's at least 50%.
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Yes he's at least 50%.
In the 30s-40s.
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In the 30s-40s.
Haha please that's insanely obese.
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I get the feeling that guys like TA and others claiming people have these ridiculous bodyfat numbers like 30 and 40% have never learned how to take a bodyfat measurement themselves, or had theirs done professionally. There are few people on this board that I would readily put at over 30%, and these are the same people that you would be claiming to be in the 50's.
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I get the feeling that guys like TA and others claiming people have these ridiculous bodyfat numbers like 30 and 40% have never learned how to take a bodyfat measurement themselves, or had theirs done professionally. There are few people on this board that I would readily put at over 30%, and these are the same people that you would be claiming to be in the 50's.
People underestimate their bodyfats.
I invite Mason or that other fellow to diet down. Then they will see. Heracles found out that he would in no way be what he thought he would.....Sometimes it takes dieting down to realize the truth.....They need the truth.
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He is higher than 25 percent bodyfat. I wish he would diet down so he would realize this.
Same thing with you Zack. You need to diet down so you will realize.
How in the fuck would your stupid ass have any idea what my body fat is?
To be correct, I weigh about 215-217 lbs currently. My body fat is probably in the 15-18% range. My arms and legs are quite lean with my body fat being concentrated on my stomach and lower back areas.
Now, Adonis, when I was 19 I dieted down and competed in the Teen Arizona. I competed at 186 lbs and was quite lean at that weight. I was drug free at the time. I can dig up a picture from then if you would like to see it.
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People underestimate their bodyfats.
I invite Mason or that other fellow to diet down. Then they will see. Heracles found out that he would in no way be what he thought he would.....Sometimes it takes dieting down to realize the truth.....They need the truth.
And people overestimate other people's bodyfats. I love how people give a bodyfat measurement confirmed by things like hydrostatic testing, which is incredibly accurate, and then other people will come back with "actually you're (actual amount plus 15%)" when they have no idea what the hell they're talking about.
Seriously, go learn how to do a bodyfat test even with calipers, and then test 50 random people. You'll be way off in your "eyeball measurements" on about 40 of them.
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In general, I believe most people makes bodyfat claims that are too low.
With that being said, TA is far off with his estimate of Mason and several others. Claiming that Mason has a bodyfat percentage of 40%... ::)
So I'm not gonna argue that. That's his opinion, and I'm not gonna waste any time argue with someone who believes Mason is at 40 % bodyfat. It's just too far off any reality.
BTW Mason, when did you lean out?
YIP
Zack
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You are way higher than 35 percent.
Please post a picture.
That bodyfat test I did was apparently the most accurate method of testing. I dont have a digital camera to post pics but now I am interested to see why you dont believe me. Its not like 35 percent bodyfat is a good thing.
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FLEX = ALL DRUGS + GREAT RECEPTORS
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Adonis, take a look at this site. It might help you to understand:
http://www.naturalphysiques.com/cms/index.php?itemid=144
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In general, I believe most people makes bodyfat claims that are too low.
With that being said, TA is far off with his estimate of Mason and several others. Claiming that Mason has a bodyfat percentage of 40%... ::)
So I'm not gonna argue that. That's his opinion, and I'm not gonna waste any time argue with someone who believes Mason is at 40 % bodyfat. It's just too far off any reality.
BTW Mason, when did you lean out?
YIP
Zack
Over the coarse of several months. I just started eating less. I have upped my calories a bit as of late so we will see what happens.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=2450726&postcount=2 \
gOOD SITE ON WHAT DIFFERENT BODY FAT LEVELS LOOK LIKE.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=2450726&postcount=2 \
gOOD SITE ON WHAT DIFFERENT BODY FAT LEVELS LOOK LIKE.
Ok, if those are your true thoughts then why do you run around making asinine claims about what individual's body fat levels are?
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Im at 8-10% bf at 210 natty ....
Sure you are.
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Every few years since I have been young I have dieted down. Knowing nothing about nutrition I just cut my calories way down. I would go from like 225 to 190 in three months. I liked the way I looked and I would guess 10% bodyfat. My face would get really gaunt. I always felt lethargic, lost lots of strength and couldn't get a good pump when I lifted. I would always drift back to gaining the weight back. I couldn't eat like a bird more than three or four months before I cracked. I felt like eating the way I did was akin to being in jail.
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not gonna read 3 pages of posts but flex is a horrible example as his genetics are superior and the way the muscles flow etc you can put 10 people the same height and weight beside him and he would still stand out by far. weight isnt telling the whole story
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not gonna read 3 pages of posts but flex is a horrible example as his genetics are superior and the way the muscles flow etc you can put 10 people the same height and weight beside him and he would still stand out by far. weight isnt telling the whole story
I agree. you can't go by just weight.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=2450726&postcount=2 \
gOOD SITE ON WHAT DIFFERENT BODY FAT LEVELS LOOK LIKE.
damn the "sliced" dude is mega ripped but looks very nasty though, do you think he is natural? maybe a goodlooking fellow like me wont look nasty at 3 %, im thinking a natural that low would be good looking but i dont know
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=2450726&postcount=2 \
gOOD SITE ON WHAT DIFFERENT BODY FAT LEVELS LOOK LIKE.
That would put me at around 13-14% at 235. That leaves me at @ 202 lbs with 0% bf ;D. How many times do you have to be told you're NOT the natural limit....
Most BB hold their contest peak for 4-6 hours if that. True naturals, probably less than that, and that's if you can even get down to 5-6% in the first place, most have trouble maintaining less than 8% for any length of time.
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theres a level conditioning even leaner than sliced, iTS called MUNZERED
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In general, I believe most people makes bodyfat claims that are too low.
With that being said, TA is far off with his estimate of Mason and several others. Claiming that Mason has a bodyfat percentage of 40%... ::)
So I'm not gonna argue that. That's his opinion, and I'm not gonna waste any time argue with someone who believes Mason is at 40 % bodyfat. It's just too far off any reality.
BTW Mason, when did you lean out?
YIP
Zack
I don't think that walking over to the frig is considered leaning out..right Chris
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TA???
Out of curiosity, how much did you weigh & what do you feel was your bodyfat % (or did you get it taken?) in the pics you had taken for the Mr Getbig competition?From looking at the pics I would guess in the 10-12% range.
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One thing to remember about Flex Wheeler was how light is skeletal frame is. His Size at 187lbs is probably the same as an average guy carring maybe 200lbs.
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Please post a picture to show what you look like at 185.
Are you ripped at this weight. I bet you are fat.
you are one caustic prick.
and Flex, although awesome, looks better at a heavier weight IMO (circa 93 or 97)
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I find it highly amusing that the majority of idiots here would call this small.
I stated this to be my overall goal 185 lbs at about the same height, which isn`t too far off.
I love how everyone who had something negative to say HAS NEVER EVEN TOUCHED 185 lbs RIPPED.
I find it highly amusing that they THINK they look better. No reason why that is. Anyone have any insight?
With that, I give you
Flex Wheeler, 5`10 185 lbs.
absolutely right, most people don't realize how much muscle 185lbs. at 4 percent really is.
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I find it highly amusing that the majority of idiots here would call this small.
I stated this to be my overall goal 185 lbs at about the same height, which isn`t too far off.
I love how everyone who had something negative to say HAS NEVER EVEN TOUCHED 185 lbs RIPPED.
I find it highly amusing that they THINK they look better. No reason why that is. Anyone have any insight?
With that, I give you
Flex Wheeler, 5`10 185 lbs.
you're finally starting to make sense :)
i'm sick of people claiming to be 12% bodyfat when they are easily 20%
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Flex sure could hold a pose ::)
;D
yeah he holds them almost as well as this cock smuggler
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TA--
you are way to caught up on bodyfat and #s...It is not equal for everyone....Kevin L...used to walk around at 10% bodyfat but actually put on 20 or so pounds for a show and get under 5%...
I have a friend who used to compete at the top end of the NPC lightheavy class and he too would put on weight and compete at 196 but before his diet started, he would be around 5'6 180 somewhere around 10 12%...
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Alas...Bodybuilding on ESPN back in the day...and an NPC show at that.
The mass game RUINED the damn thing for everyone. Turned it into a traveling circus that's scoffed at by 98% of the U.S. Population. Thanks druggies.
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In general, I believe most people makes bodyfat claims that are too low.
With that being said, TA is far off with his estimate of Mason and several others. Claiming that Mason has a bodyfat percentage of 40%... ::)
So I'm not gonna argue that. That's his opinion, and I'm not gonna waste any time argue with someone who believes Mason is at 40 % bodyfat. It's just too far off any reality.
BTW Mason, when did you lean out?
YIP
Zack
haha absolutly !
TA, you don't know what 40 % looks like
it is FUCKING OBESE !
hell I was fucking fat at 18-20 %, I can't imagine being 40 % :-X
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yeah he holds them almost as well as this cock smuggler
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they must of had the same teacher
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i just think TA is a fuckin prick,whats weight got to do with it,u would still look shit at 250 shredded u genetically retarded freak.
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Mmmm....
I know that self delusion with regard to bodyfat is entirely all too easy...I used to weigh in at around 285-295 pounds at my biggest ...I'm 6'4...no abs but a fairly good all over body shape. I thought my bodyfat was probably around the high teen mark - maybe 20/21% at most and then i got tested using calipers and impedence (sp?)...came in at almost 30%
now judging on how i look and the fact that I have not trained in almost a year...
i must be pushing 40% cause Ive easily lost more than 10-15% of my muscle mass
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Adonis what bodyfat % was Vince at the mountaineer
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Just shows you how delusional people really are.
Most people here are clearly all fat I have noticed. They are fooling themselves if they think they are going to diet down and be bigger than Flex Wheeler at that height....At least most people that I have seen.(Groink and many others)
..yet another skinny fucker who can't put on size to save his life so you hate on hate the big boys.(As skinny as you are in those pics, I thought at least you were tall)
Go fuck yourself and take some swimming lessons. ;D
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I do know one thing. TA Is the most butt ugly dude I have ever seen.
And I'm sick of his protesting how " natural" he is. He needs to get on the sauce because that is the most pathtic " build" I have ever seen.
Bro ........ an Adonis you are not !!! Get a grip.. I was showing my girlfriend the thread on ( bodybuilding look alikes ) And I didn't say a word. When The (Adonis-sutherland-skrawny cat ) pics came up. She said " Who the hell is that tard " " does he think he's a bodybuilder"
" what an ugly fuck too " There is no way that guy gets laid " she said!
I was like " Well he thinks he's a bodybuilding god " " An Adonis"
We both laughed. And to think he has the nerve to wear a True-Adonis
T- shirt to the Olympia expo. He actually thinks he's a celeb.
True-Adonis ( lol) here is an idea. Change your screen name to
" Regular joe" and stop acting like you are a bodybuilding know it all.
Puleeeese.
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TA is dead wrong about bf %'s, that was already shown in another thread. And the fact that he would contest the readings of hydro-electric testing sight unseen just goes to show how idiotic he is.