is gummers still ok ?
I would be up for retroactive abortions and reduced breeding for inbreads and the stupid..well and [delete]democrats... ;D[/delete]
WTF Man >:(
We're not the ones trying to take prime pussy off the market... are you gay?
I would be up for retroactive abortions and reduced breeding for inbreads and the stupid..well and democrats... ;DWhat the fuck are you Yankees doing over there! Berserker is right! Get control of your radicals for shit sake ::) They will fuck your party and fuck you in the process. Don't go siding for your own party when they're pulling shit like this just because you hate the stupid democrats. Fix what's wrong in your party. Now get on it, we don't need you Yankees coming over here to get what white pussy we have left.
The evangelican guy...
said for no reason, he decided to buy meth one day. called the guy who gives him massages and bought some. No reason, just bored and figured hell, I've never done drugs, why not try a powerfully addictive street drug today? Then, a minute after buying it, he realized the error of his ways and threw it away.
What a load of fucking crap. I mean, this is worse than Foley's magically appearing alcohol problem. This guy tries to explain away 3 years of side-action with the male escort as "he was my masseuse", then to explain the horny late night phone call that was recorded, it is "I wanted meth, that's why I soudned that way".
Please tell me that no one believes this load of crap.
WTF Man >:(
We're not the ones trying to take prime pussy off the market... are you gay?
Finally... a undeniable 100% very good reason for everyone to vote against Republicans unless you're gay and there's not many gay republicans so... They want to take away young delicious free roaming pussy from America... Worse than Communism, republicans have just treaded on sacred ground >:( US GOV... You can't have our women!!!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-30-abstinence-message_x.htm::) REPUBLICANS SAY..... LOOK, DON'T TOUCH! ::)
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another nice pooper, good job
What's the deal? Everybody loves the anus, yet it's where the shit comes out. Everybody must love to stick their tounges in shitty assholes.
He was talking about her turd cutter, her ass, her back porch, her push tush...not her brown lifesaver... ;D
Anus = the "outer hole". Rectum = the shit canal. The meat around = very close to the shit.
What's the deal? Everybody loves the anus, yet it's where the shit comes out. Everybody must love to stick their tounges in shitty assholes.
That's why I always have the girl do multiple cleansings before entering.
Try it mate.
YIP
Zack
Sound the alarm. The government is promoting common sense. Talk about a radical idea: telling young adults to keep their stuff in their pants to help reduce out-of-wedlock births. An excerpt:
But Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at the Department of Health and Human Services, said the revision is aimed at 19- to 29-year-olds because more unmarried women in that age group are having children.
Government data released last month show that 998,262 births in 2004 were to unmarried women 19-29, the ages with the most births to unmarried women.
"The message is 'It's better to wait until you're married to bear or father children,' " Horn said. "The only 100% effective way of getting there is abstinence."
The revised guidelines specify that states seeking grants are "to identify groups ... most likely to bear children out-of-wedlock, targeting adolescents and/or adults within the 12- through 29-year-old age range." Previous guidelines didn't mention targeting of an age group.
"We wanted to remind states they could use these funds not only to target adolescents," Horn said. "It's a reminder."
Last year, 46 states applied for the federal abstinence-education money, to fund programs in schools, neighborhood clubs and faith-based organizations.
Sound the alarm. The government is promoting common sense. Talk about a radical idea: telling young adults to keep their stuff in their pants to help reduce out-of-wedlock births.
How about instead promote safe sex?
Fund campaigns for condom availability, free condoms at certain places, put condom vending machines up in mens and ladies room in bars and nightclubs et al.
I'm sure something like that could help prevent lots of STD's and lots of unplanned births.
YIP
Zack
Because I don't think there such a thing as "safe sex" outside of marriage. Neither birth control nor condoms are foolproof. Would you have sex with a woman you knew had genital herpes, so long as you used a condom?
Teaching traditional methods of birth control have been a colossal failure. Just look at the unwanted pregnancy rates in this country. All it does is send a mixed message: don't have sex till you're married, but here, keep this condom in your wallet.
I teach my kids abstinence.
Sound the alarm. The government is promoting common sense. Talk about a radical idea: telling young adults to keep their stuff in their pants to help reduce out-of-wedlock births. An excerpt:
But Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at the Department of Health and Human Services, said the revision is aimed at 19- to 29-year-olds because more unmarried women in that age group are having children.
Government data released last month show that 998,262 births in 2004 were to unmarried women 19-29, the ages with the most births to unmarried women.
"The message is 'It's better to wait until you're married to bear or father children,' " Horn said. "The only 100% effective way of getting there is abstinence."
The revised guidelines specify that states seeking grants are "to identify groups ... most likely to bear children out-of-wedlock, targeting adolescents and/or adults within the 12- through 29-year-old age range." Previous guidelines didn't mention targeting of an age group.
"We wanted to remind states they could use these funds not only to target adolescents," Horn said. "It's a reminder."
Last year, 46 states applied for the federal abstinence-education money, to fund programs in schools, neighborhood clubs and faith-based organizations.
Wow, I knew you were wacko but this is just insane. You're one of the freaky religious nutjobs that wants the world to live what your religion preaches.
Holy Schit, you want 29 year olds not to have sex? It's alright for someone in their twenties to be able to fight in a war, vote, own a gun, drive a car, motorcycle or airplane yet they can't have sex if they're not married? ::)
Zealot might be too tame a word for you. Yikes, what a freak.
I wonder if you're one of those fanatics that endorses the bombing of abortion clinics and the murdering of doctors that perform abortions?
YAWN. ::)
Nice retort freak. Are you busy plotting your next abortion clinic bombing with your fellow religious fanatics?
You know what's really funny about your insane point of view? I bet you had sex before you were married when you were younger than 29, making you a hypocrite. LOL.
What a clown.
Also, this isn't a law. It's a guideline used for states who want grant money.NO SHIT THERE... If you weren't reading only parts of posts and articles, that would have been clear as fuck but here you are pointing it out like you're correcting a misconception ::)
NO SHIT THERE... If you weren't reading only parts of posts and articles, that would have been clear as f**k but here you are pointing it out like you're correcting a misconception ::)
I don't read most of your posts, because you cuss too much.I didn't cuss in the USAToday article did I dipshit? no one thought this was a law ::) If you're not going to read through posts fine, but don't ASSume what they say and post ::)
I didn't cuss in the USAToday article did I dipshit? no one thought this was a law ::) If you're not going to read through posts fine, but don't ASSume what they say and post ::)
I definitely think condoms should be handed out to high school teens before their prom, that there should be a thorough education on how condoms work and how safe they are from the legal age in each state.Do you know how many people on the left get absolutely attacked for saying this exact same thing? I'm mean because this is word for word pretty much the take from the left...
Why?
Because I believe that is the best way to prevent STD's and unplanned births.
Not because I want teens to start having group sex or shit. Just want them to always protect themselves.
YIP
Zack
Berserker, when I skim your posts most of what I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher.Yea, I know... funny thing is that a good portion of what I post is sniped from major media sources and you still tick along like you're listening to charlie brown's teacher... But funny as all hell... you hear Charlie Brown's teacher and what do you do? POST A REPLY... that either makes you dumbest member on getbig or a radical fundamentalist so embedded in your thinking that you have a standard answer based on seeing the JIST of what a post is about...
Yea, I know... funny thing is that a good portion of what I post is sniped from major media sources and you still tick along like you're listening to charlie brown's teacher... But funny as all hell... you hear Charlie Brown's teacher and what do you do? POST A REPLY... that either makes you dumbest member on getbig or a radical fundamentalist so embedded in your thinking that you have a standard answer based on seeing the JIST of what a post is about...
;D Ah another member of the Beach Bum fan club. I love you guys. Do I get a Christmas card?And that's when I take you're conceding the debate ;D when you drop the issue in favor of a smart ass reply... Thank you bum. :-*
And that's when I take you're conceding the debate ;D when you drop the issue in favor of a smart ass reply... Thank you bum. :-*
Debate????I know... It's obvious you don't do "Debate" Thanks for making my point..... AGAIN ;)
I know... It's obvious you don't do "Debate" Thanks for making my point..... AGAIN ;)
Point???you don't do debate, your narrow vision missed the first part of the post? LOL....
you don't do debate, your narrow vision missed the first part of the post? LOL....
I debate all the time. I poke fun at people I don't take seriously.You don't take your government wasting millions of dollars on an abstinence campaign aimed at 19 to 29 year olds seriously. :-\
stop debating u queers and post more ass pics!!!!
i own you both intellectually anyways 8)
You don't take your government wasting millions of dollars on an abstinence campaign aimed at 19 to 29 year olds seriously. :-\
Oldie but a goodie: ;DHOLY...FUCKIN.....SHIT....
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I guess they could continue to promote "safe sex" through birth control pills and condoms. That has worked brilliantly the past 30 years or so.people have sex out of marriage, you can't stop it you fucking retard... You're wasting your our money, we're applying the best common sense solutions even if the solutions are not 100% perfect... Go on with yourself now and put a lit on your radical fundamentalism before it ends up wasting more money or getting more people killed. >:(
HOLY...FUCKIN.....SHIT....OH NO, you're kidding right ;D That's one of the most popular asses in all the world... Those buns are famous ;D
who is that???? :o
OH NO, you're kidding right ;D That's one of the most popular asses in all the world... Those buns are famous ;Dthats what i figured, greatest ass in the world(what a title to be able to claim!!!!!)
Keyra Augusta
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thats what i figured, greatest ass in the world(what a title to be able to claim!!!!!)oh yea, it's hard to beat kerya
she beats the shit out of vida guera
people have sex out of marriage, you can't stop it you fucking retard... You're wasting your our money, we're applying the best common sense solutions even if the solutions are not 100% perfect... Go on with yourself now and put a lit on your radical fundamentalism before it ends up wasting more money or getting more people killed. >:(
Hmmmm wondering if there is a statement to be found in how well abstinence worked for priests. It's a form of deprivation that leads to unhealthy outcomes as is so with nearly every kind of deprivation on the human animal... You can't goddamned suppress the strongest primal trait in humans which is to f**k... Only a delusional radical fundamentalist would think this is a good idea... >:(
::) Listen genius, this is part of the reason why I don't take you seriously. You are nothing more than a cartoon. Here is some free advice: in the unlikely event you are able to find a woman, do the world a favor and practice abstinence; i.e., do not reproduce. You'll not preserve the moral fabric of society, you'll save the government some money.Great rebuttal ::) Again... I'll take that a bow out... You don't want to deal with any of the very valid points made in the post and instead resort to this shit... You can get pissy with me that's fine, but it says volumes when your post has no counter points.
I guess they could continue to promote "safe sex" through birth control pills and condoms. That has worked brilliantly the past 30 years or so.
I guess they could continue to promote "safe sex" through birth control pills and condoms. That has worked brilliantly the past 30 years or so.
Condoms are preventing STD's.
Problem is, the use of condoms are not allowed to be demonstrated or teached to teens, and they grow up without condom usage as a natural part of their sex life.
The usage of condoms in Sweden is higher than in Poland, Ireland or other countries with rigid anti-condom policies.
Sweden also has a lower rate of STD's and unplanned births.
Despite the fact that Swedish teens starts having sex at the same age or even slightly earlier on average, than these other countries.
Something must be wrong with the anti-condom policy.
I agree that preaching abstinence is one way to deal with the problem, and the only way to deal with the problem. 300 years ago.
But we live in the 21st century.
Lets deal with this as rational human beings.
Fact: People, even those under the age of 30, will have sex.
How to prevent those people from getting STD's and unplanned births?
Why not teach them from young age to use condoms?
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Zack
Because you are sending a mixed message. We have tried the condom campaigns in this country for years. It has been a failure. I think it is an unreasonable approach. Not only does it send mixed messages about sex, but it is unworkable. Sex with and without a condom is literally like night and day. I doubt there are many guys who have experienced sex with and without a condom who will consistently use condoms, particularly younger guys whose brain cells are clouded by testosterone.
Have there been studies in Sweden that directly link condom use to fewer unplanned births? I've seen studies that show condoms have a very high failure rate.
Be honest with me mate, have the government in the USA really tried condom campaigns on a large scale?
Have these campaigns been allowed into high schools, into all high schools, even private high schools? What efforts were made to give condoms a chance?
Here's an anti-AIDS site with info about condoms:
http://www.avert.org/condoms.htm
And before anyone goes and claim it is "liberal" or "conservative" or "whatever" bias, the article has solid references.
Once again, I don't think condoms should be promoted because I want kids to have orgies, or have more sex.
It's because I remember how it was being a teen, that there is no way a teen is going to stay away from the cookie jar.
Instead, inform.
On a side note: I don't understand what Berserker thinks he's going to achieve with constantly insulting BB. And vice versa.
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Zack
Different groups have spent millions for years promoting condom use in this country. It hasn't worked. I think one of the main reasons it will never work is what I mentioned earlier about guys simply refusing to use them.
I looked at the link you posted. Here is what I found interesting about the U.S.: the rates of Chlamydia have almost doubled, gonorrhea has remained level, and syphilis has only slightly decreased. If those numbers are accurate, our millions spent promoting condoms have had no impact on STDs.
And just look at our out-of-wedlock pregnancy and abortion rates. Whatever we've been doing to slow these rates down has not worked.
It's a difficult issue IMO. I know a certain segment of the population will have irresponsible sex regardless of what kind of campaign we run. Given that, I see no problem with promoting the only foolproof method of avoiding STDs and unwanted out-of-wedlock births: find a mate and get married. Until then, keep it in your pants.
My questions for you are these:
Do you really think that the government in the USA has allowed for a nationwide campaign directed at ALL teens and young adults?
If so, when was that campaign?
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Zack
This is what it's about and has been for several decades. The abstinence-only teaching model has not been successful anywhere in the world.
"The effectiveness debate has largely obscured one underlying reason for the Bush administration's support: politics. Funding abstinence-until-marriage programs allows the White House to reward conservative groups by putting them on the federal gravy train."
But on the bright side, look at all the creative people who are going enjoy lucrative contracts while dreaming up fun campaigns for a whole new segment of society!
Idaho's state campaign tried using reverse psychology to show teens what was potentially uncool about having sex. Their television spots, produced by es/drake ad agency in Boise, Idaho, were spoofs of ads for popular dolls. "Action Teen Father," for example, resembles a Ken doll with a mullet haircut and faded jeans, and comes complete with a crib, diaper bag, "Action Baby Buggy," and food stamps. (His girlfriend, "Teen Mommy Darcie," is sold separately.) Although the message-- "Teen parenting isn't fun"--flashes in the final frame, some younger viewers apparently didn't get the point. According to Shelly Rambo Robertson of the Idaho Department of Health, a few parents complained that their children thought the toys were genuine and wanted to buy "Teen Mommy Darcie."
This is what it's about and has been for several decades. The abstinence-only teaching model has not been successful anywhere in the world.
"The effectiveness debate has largely obscured one underlying reason for the Bush administration's support: politics. Funding abstinence-until-marriage programs allows the White House to reward conservative groups by putting them on the federal gravy train."
But on the bright side, look at all the creative people who are going enjoy lucrative contracts while dreaming up fun campaigns for a whole new segment of society!
Idaho's state campaign tried using reverse psychology to show teens what was potentially uncool about having sex. Their television spots, produced by es/drake ad agency in Boise, Idaho, were spoofs of ads for popular dolls. "Action Teen Father," for example, resembles a Ken doll with a mullet haircut and faded jeans, and comes complete with a crib, diaper bag, "Action Baby Buggy," and food stamps. (His girlfriend, "Teen Mommy Darcie," is sold separately.) Although the message-- "Teen parenting isn't fun"--flashes in the final frame, some younger viewers apparently didn't get the point. According to Shelly Rambo Robertson of the Idaho Department of Health, a few parents complained that their children thought the toys were genuine and wanted to buy "Teen Mommy Darcie."
Yes.
It is ongoing. We have run numerous T.V. and radio commercials for years. They have tried to become creative and make the commercials more appealing to young people. What I'm not sure about is whether they hand them out in the schools or make them available to kids in the schools. Even if they don't, I am certain anyone can walk into a plethora of clinics and Planned Parenthood buildings anywhere in the country and get free condoms. Promoting condom use and making them available are not the problems. It's getting guys to use them on a large scale, consistent basis, which I don't believe will ever happen, regardless of how much money we spend promoting their use.
From what I understand, and my experience when I lived in the USA, was that for every campaign that was trying to get teens and adults to use condoms, there were at least one campaign of abstinence.
From what I understand, and my experience when I lived in the USA, was that for every campaign that was trying to get teens and adults to use condoms, there were at least one campaign of abstinence.
I never had any condom talk during my senior year in US high school. Condoms weren't very available either in general. It wasn't like you could by a pack at any supermarket or drugstore, or gas station.
So that was a big change from what I was used from back in Sweden.
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Zack
Well, it doesn't seem to have worked in European and African countries. The lowest rates of teen pregnancies in Europe are in the countries that teach sex education rather than abstinence. Perhaps it only works in the US. However, this thread is about reaching 19-29-year-olds which is a ludicrous undertaking. The only reason for the campaign is to shuttle funds to certain conservative special interest groups.
I think it comes down to what kind of practices our government should be promoting. Regarding teens, most rational people, particularly parents, believe teenagers should not have sex. They're not old enough. Generally not mature enough. Regarding unmarried 19-29 year-olds, the commonsense advice I'd give to any of them is get your education, find a spouse, then have sex, kids, etc. That's certainly reasonable advice in my book. That's what I'm teaching my kids.
Obviously, this approach will not work with all kids and young adults. But in terms of public policy, I have no problem at all with our government promoting the smartest approach for young adults.
I think it comes down to what kind of practices our government should be promoting. Regarding teens, most rational people, particularly parents, believe teenagers should not have sex. They're not old enough. Generally not mature enough. Regarding unmarried 19-29 year-olds, the commonsense advice I'd give to any of them is get your education, find a spouse, then have sex, kids, etc. That's certainly reasonable advice in my book. That's what I'm teaching my kids.
Obviously, this approach will not work with all kids and young adults. But in terms of public policy, I have no problem at all with our government promoting the smartest approach for young adults.
It seems like you have a very different opinion on what you think will prevent most cases of STD's and unplanned births from mine.
I happen to not agree with you on how to deal with the problem, but at least we seems to agree on what the problem is - too much unprotected sex.
Hypothetical question for you BB:
If there is research that clearly shows that safe sex with condom is the outstanding alternative to abstinence, would you be in favor of this being public policy and mandatory in all public and private schools?
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Zack
From what I understand, and my experience when I lived in the USA, was that for every campaign that was trying to get teens and adults to use condoms, there were at least one campaign of abstinence.The better question is: Why the fvck would u get your highschool education in the US? ;D
I never had any condom talk during my senior year in US high school. Condoms weren't very available either in general. It wasn't like you could by a pack at any supermarket or drugstore, or gas station.
So that was a big change from what I was used from back in Sweden.
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Zack
The way you worded this says sex should be mandatory in all schools. :)
It seems like you have a very different opinion on what you think will prevent most cases of STD's and unplanned births from mine.
I happen to not agree with you on how to deal with the problem, but at least we seems to agree on what the problem is - too much unprotected sex.
Hypothetical question for you BB:
If there is research that clearly shows that safe sex with condom is the outstanding alternative to abstinence, would you be in favor of this being public policy and mandatory in all public and private schools?
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Zack
Well, honestly it wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd certainly be willing to discuss it if the numbers showed one was vastly superior to the other. I don't think such a study has been done in the U.S.? Until then, I'll stick with my fluffy clouds and unicorns idealism. ;D
The better question is: Why the fvck would u get your highschool education in the US? ;D
Based on comparative studies with other countries, so far it isn't looking so hot for the fluffy clouds... :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_education
Okay. I read the link. It does not discuss a comparative study of condoms vs. abstinence.
I found this alarming: "In France, sex education has been part of school curricula since 1973. Schools are expected to provide 30 to 40 hours of sex education, and pass out condoms, to students in grades eight and nine." :o
Good Lord. Giving condoms to 13 year old kids?
Okay. I read the link. It does not discuss a comparative study of condoms vs. abstinence.
I found this alarming: "In France, sex education has been part of school curricula since 1973. Schools are expected to provide 30 to 40 hours of sex education, and pass out condoms, to students in grades eight and nine." :o
Good Lord. Giving condoms to 13 year old kids?
Good Lord. Giving condoms to 13 year old kids?
I teach my kids abstinence.
Do they listen?
Of course.
But how do you know? I mean, you know how kids get. Don't you ever worried she'll be all hugged up with some long haired underachiever in a "Vote Kerry" t-shirt at a Loose Change movie showing and just get inspired by the patriotism of the movie's authors, and, well, you know...
Communication. My kids talk to me. Share secrets. We trust each other. They know we're in this journey together. I know which ones of their friends are having sex. We actually have very explicit discussions about sex. Make sure you do the same with your kids. It's a dangerous world out there for them.
I know. But you are realistic that every kid will reach a point where rationalization occurs, and he/she decides it's better to just do the damn deed and not involve pops. Alcohol has been known to speed up this process. if they're under 18, you may be very lucky and still maintain that connection. College age, good luck. I just finished college and spent a lot of time in the dorms and man, those kids were always drinking and getting down. (Not to scare you- but many people don't know how bad it really is at schools).
I wish you luck. I know I'll be in that same boat someday. One point tho, and I have to press that button - Do you trust too much? No offense, but you completely buy some things you are told, even when they are obvious lies (ahem: 9/11). You're not gonna buy the "that's not a hickey - Nurse Nist said it's just a rash", are you? ;)
Good luck with it. College is f'ing terrible. i mean, they'll be playing warcraft in one room, smoking weed in another, homework in the 3rd and sex with the door open in the 4th. The level of supervision is horrible. The RA's (residence authorities?) are just juniors who get free rent by putting out any fires. And my college was very new, very upper middle class group. I'm just having fun messing with you, but make sure they get their first good buzz at home and not with some kid name chaz in an A&F t-shirt. ya never know how that first jaeger bomb will affect a girl.
Communication. My kids talk to me. Share secrets. We trust each other. They know we're in this journey together. I know which ones of their friends are having sex. We actually have very explicit discussions about sex. Make sure you do the same with your kids. It's a dangerous world out there for them.
Whatever you do, ...maintain that trust, ...and DON'T EVER LIE TO THEM!
I can't tell you how traumatic it was for me to know my Dad actually flat out LIED to me, when at the age of 8, I asked him what a penis was, ...and he told me he didn't know. :'(
Ok, so it wasn't until I was 10 that I actually found out what one was, that he not only knew, ...but that he had one, ...but even though it was 2 yrs later, ...it still upset me that he knew and lied about it. I had a hard time trusting him after that.
Just cause you think your kids are telling you everything/ the truth Does not mean that they are.
I can attest to that. When I was in highschool the best girls came out of the private schools. Hell, girls at the public school I attended where furious over it. All the guys would go for the Catholic schoolgirls since they partied way harder and had way more sex. You could tell they where doing it to liberate themselves from all the strict rules and restrictions they faced.
Same deal in college. The girls who where the most oppressed during highschool, where the biggest slampigs on campus. Make sure to not overdo it. Do not want a silent rebellion. I am sure you have it totally under control and things will be fine. Just making a broad statement about what I have seen.
I can attest to that. When I was in highschool the best girls came out of the private schools. Hell, girls at the public school I attended where furious over it. All the guys would go for the Catholic schoolgirls since they partied way harder and had way more sex. You could tell they where doing it to liberate themselves from all the strict rules and restrictions they faced.
Same deal in college. The girls who where the most oppressed during highschool, where the biggest slampigs on campus. Make sure to not overdo it. Do not want a silent rebellion. I am sure you have it totally under control and things will be fine. Just making a broad statement about what I have seen.
Because I don't think there such a thing as "safe sex" outside of marriage. Neither birth control nor condoms are foolproof. Would you have sex with a woman you knew had genital herpes, so long as you used a condom?
Teaching traditional methods of birth control have been a colossal failure. Just look at the unwanted pregnancy rates in this country. All it does is send a mixed message: don't have sex till you're married, but here, keep this condom in your wallet.
I teach my kids abstinence.
Here's what the fundies don't get: back when these "no sex before marriage" religious rules were written, people were typically married shortly after puberty.
What's the average age of marriage today, 30?
Given the biologoical sex drive, do they really think it's realistic to expect people to spend 15+ years of sexual maturity celibate? Hell, if you can get them to wait until they're out of high school you've accomplished a miracle.
The religious right shows just how out-of-touch with reality they are when they come up with crap like this.
And the liberal left is just as out-of-touch as well. All their yakking about condoms was supposed to prevent out-of-wedlock pregnancies. Yet, out-of-wedlock births are at an ALL-TIME HIGH.
Liberals virtually encourage kids to have sex, then act DUMBFOUNDED when teen girls get knocked up.
Goatboy does have a very strong argument...
we can't fight nature for 15 whole years