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Title: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:06:50 PM
i almost seriously injured myself while squatting cause my spotter (who i picked cause he ws also training legs) ws staring out at the lake outside the gym window while i ws squatting..<chantilly VA golds>

i pretty much half squatted ..half good morninged out of the hole..

my left lower ab hurt bad after but feels fine now..we'll see how sore my lower back is tomorrow..


i didn't even finish ..i just grabbed my keys and slow walked out of the gym pissed off.. >:(


Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: pumpher on April 01, 2007, 06:09:07 PM
That sucks. I've had several injuries from crappy spotters.

Now if I ever need a spotter, I make sure I grab someone I recognize, or at least look like they know what they are doing.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 06:10:17 PM
where is your video?
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:15:08 PM
where is your video?

i KNEW bitchfurys bestest fiend would bring this up..

i said friday..and friday it'll be.. even if i fail..

fyi...  today 185 for 15..2 sets

225..for easy 5..

225..for 8..i ws burying em all..no belt..(and you'll see how far down i go).and this happend on the 8th..kinda wish i had paralleled it..


anyhow..friday.. and once i hit 275 for 10..i'll ask for yours..

and the 405 by end on june is also still on  :)

...muscle memory can be a bitch ;D
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 06:16:11 PM
i KNEW bitchfurys bestest fiend would bring this up..

i said friday..and friday it'll be.. even if i fail..

fyi...  today 185 for 15..2 sets

225..for easy 5..

225..for 8..i ws burying em all..no belt..(and you'll see how far down i go).and this happend on the 8th..kinda wish i had paralleled it..


anyhow..friday..once i hit 275 for 10..i'll ask for yours..

and the 405 by end on june is also still on  :)

...muscle memory can be a bitch ;D

you said this last friday ::)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:17:32 PM
you said this last friday ::)

look up my post..last week i said " NOT this friday but the next"

go ahead look it up!  :)  i wont bother..to look it up and re post it but if you r THAT pressed be my guest..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:18:40 PM
That sucks. I've had several injuries from crappy spotters.



unless its one of my old training partners..yes but otherwise never fucking again..if someones using the cage..i'll just wait..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: antcraw on April 01, 2007, 06:20:28 PM
come on Toxic you're not going to be any stonger by the end of the week just put a vid and while you're at it please deadlift 225 for as many reps as you can  ;D
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:29:34 PM
come on Toxic you're not going to be any stonger by the end of the week just put a vid and while you're at it please deadlift 225 for as many reps as you can  ;D

ok ..soo i'll post up a video of me failing!  :)

ya dont think i could do 225 for 10 if i skip the 185 for 15 sets??  ;)
anyhow..lets stay on topic..if i dont post up on friday..yall can bash me at will.. :-\

Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: RUDE BUOY on April 01, 2007, 06:31:47 PM
injuries fucken suck man hope you dont miss any trianing
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: bcimagala on April 01, 2007, 06:33:39 PM
were you squatting in a rack or cage?  if so, why didn't you just dump it?

no reason anyone should be hurting themselves doing 225 on squats.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:35:31 PM
injuries fucken suck man hope you dont miss any trianing

i opened my big mouth...soo i gotta post up a vid of me doing 225 for at least 10..

my lower ab feels ok right now..tomorrow will tell..my right calf tendon (what ever its called..right below the calf) feels tender..

if push comes to shove..i'm still gonna attempt come friday..albiet with a belt..




i've been pushing legs hard ( 3times/week..high freq low vol)..despite my blabbing on here (cause i trust my legs and muscle mem) i actually only started re training legs 3 weeks ago   ;D i'll do it though.. :)
thanx for the concern though mate  :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: RUDE BUOY on April 01, 2007, 06:37:17 PM
i opened my big mouth...soo i gotta post up a vid of me doing 225 for at least 10..

my lower ab feels ok right now..tomorrow will tell..my right calf tendon (what ever its called..right below the calf) feels tender..

if push comes to shove..i'm still gonna attempt come friday..albiet with a belt..




i've been pushing legs hard ( 3times/week..high freq low vol)..despite my blabbing on here (cause i trust my legs and muscle mem) i actually only started re training legs 3 weeks ago   ;D i'll do it though.. :)
thanx for the concern though mate  :)
i have blown out my shoulder before i know what its like it sucks man
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:37:37 PM
were you squatting in a rack or cage?  if so, why didn't you just dump it?

no reason anyone should be hurting themselves doing 225 on squats.

rack..that ya kinda walk out of..my spotter had the cage..he ws doing these partials in em..and i didn't wanna be bothered with loading and unloading his weight..he had 355 on.. :-\


it ws sunday man..there ws no one else save some old guys and a few chicks..soo i asked him.. :(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Tokyo Joe on April 01, 2007, 06:39:01 PM
Lesson 1: Never get someone you don't know to spot you on a max
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: XFACTOR on April 01, 2007, 06:39:29 PM
i have blown out my shoulder before i know what its like it sucks man

How about the guy who's spotting you on bench and after 4-5 when you start to struggle a bit he grabs the bar and fully lifts back to the rack. That is the "over spotter".
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:40:06 PM
i have blown out my shoulder before i know what its like it sucks man

never blown a shoulder..but wayy back when i actually has some size..i severly strained mine trying 225 seated barbell for 4 reps..

(side note..my bench wasn't much more  about 225 :-\..yeah i looked funny..big legs calves..big shoulders ..thick back with no width..and no chest or arms :-\..)

i could get 185 easy but 225 buried me on rep 1..my right shoulder still clicks..and this happened 7ish yrs ago..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: RUDE BUOY on April 01, 2007, 06:40:09 PM
How about the guy who's spotting you on bench and after 4-5 when you start to struggle a bit he grabs the bar and fully lifts back to the rack. That is the "over spotter".
i hate that shit he deserves a kick in the balls  >:(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:40:47 PM
Lesson 1: Never get someone you don't know to spot you on a max

i ws gong for 10..this happened at rep 8..wasn't exactly a max.. :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 01, 2007, 06:41:28 PM
It dawned on me a long time that if I needed a spotter I am probably doing something wrong.

yes, yes, I don't go to total failure..I just do one more set

this has serve me well as far as avoiding injures ...don't ego lift...lift to maximize hypertrophy.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: RUDE BUOY on April 01, 2007, 06:42:18 PM
It dawned on me a long time that if I needed a spotter I am probably doing something wrong.

yes, yes, I don't go to total failure..I just do one more set

this has serve me well as far as avoiding injures ...don't ego lift...lift to maximize hypertrophy.
good post
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:43:06 PM


this has serve me well as far as avoiding injures ...don't ego lift...lift to maximize hypertrophy.

lol you forget..i gotta post a damn vid by friday mate..i juust cant have bitchfury have the last laugh on this one mate..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: bcimagala on April 01, 2007, 06:43:15 PM
lesson to take away from this experience: trust catch bars and a rack over some stranger.

i never ask a some random person for a spot on squats.  i use the rack and dump the weight if i have to. 
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: XFACTOR on April 01, 2007, 06:43:23 PM
i hate that shit he deserves a kick in the balls  >:(

How about those fucks that drip sweat on you while spotting you on bench.  If you have had that happen you, know how awful it is.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 06:45:33 PM
lol you forget..i gotta post a damn vid by friday mate..i juust cant have bitchfury have the last laugh on this one mate..

he owns your thoughts and he isnt even posting
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:47:10 PM
he owns your thoughts and he isnt even posting

lmao..and why isn't the bitch posting??

o no..this is as much for you also mate..gimme 1 month and i'll hit 275 for 10..

225 for 10 is in the bag by friday as far as i'm concerned..i got 1 more leg day to go before friday..


as i said ...muscle mem is a bitch! ;D

ya better start squatting boye..toxic a coming foo u!
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: XFACTOR on April 01, 2007, 06:49:15 PM
lmao..and why isn't the bitch posting??

o no..this is as much for you also mate..gimme 1 month and i'll hit 275 for 10..

225 for 10 is in the bag by friday as far as i'm concerned..i got 1 more leg day to go before friday..


as i said ...muscle mem is a bitch! ;D

ya better start squatting boye..toxic a coming foo u!


225 for 10????  WTF you can't do that.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 01, 2007, 06:52:36 PM
I never see anyone train properly anymore

every guy in the gym "over lifts"! they get maybe 2 shaky reps in and then spotter does the rest of the work...typical monday night (chest day) at most gyms.

every fucking guy loads up the bar with their max weight, barely bends their knees 3 or 4 times, this is what passes for a set of squat these days.

Vince Basille once wrote that he say Surge train chest.  He said that he never went over 2 plates, he just did set after set after set for a very long time...no need for a spotter..no ego lifting


Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:53:18 PM

225 for 10????  WTF you can't do that.


sad aint it...

i got fat..lazy...drank too much..got into drugs..and let my self go for a long time..in short i became an IT guy...  :-\


...a little more support for my comeback would be appreciated mate..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:55:47 PM
I never see anyone train properly anymore

every guy in the gym "over lifts"! they get maybe 2 shaky reps in and then spotter does the rest of the work...typical monday night (chest day) at most gyms.

every fucking guy loads up the bar with their max weight, barely bends their knees 3 or 4 times, this is what passes for a set of squat these days.

Vince Basille once wrote that he say Surge train chest.  He said that he never went over 2 plates, he just did set after set after set for a very long time...no need for a spotter..no ego lifting




if i did that i coulda walked into the gym 2 weeks ago and gotton 10..

my reps are textbook shoulder width or slightly shorter than shoulder width (depending how strong i feel) reps..no belt (till i hit 275) ass to the floor on every rep back tight, reps..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 01, 2007, 06:56:00 PM

225 for 10????  WTF you can't do that.

225 X 10 X 10+ sounds like an awesome work out

with minimal rest
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: XFACTOR on April 01, 2007, 06:57:46 PM
225 X 10 X 10+ sounds like an awesome work out

with minimal rest

For a 16 year old
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 01, 2007, 06:59:03 PM
For a 16 year old

some us are not as genetically gifted as you
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 06:59:18 PM
225 X 10 X 10+ sounds like an awesome work out

with minimal rest
lol..fuck no..i did the bulgarian training platz and leo costa junior were promoting(94..95??) and that had me do a weight (275 back then) i could handle for 12 to 15 reps..with 30 seconds of rest between sets for 6 sets..i could only keep up with that shit for like a few months..

my college grades started to drop and i always felt i ws gonna blow my hearr cause i had to take like a 100 mgs of eph plus a cup of coffee before  i did that..and after i'd always shake so bad and crash so hard..

never again man..fuck no  >:(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Alex23 on April 01, 2007, 07:02:20 PM
i KNEW bitchfurys bestest fiend would bring this up..

i said friday..and friday it'll be.. even if i fail..

fyi...  today 185 for 15..2 sets

225..for easy 5..

225..for 8..i ws burying em all..no belt..(and you'll see how far down i go).and this happend on the 8th..kinda wish i had paralleled it..


anyhow..friday.. and once i hit 275 for 10..i'll ask for yours..

and the 405 by end on june is also still on  :)

...muscle memory can be a bitch ;D

Are you recovering from an injury?
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 01, 2007, 07:02:54 PM
lol..fuck no..i did the bulgarian training platz and leo costa junior were promoting(94..95??) and that had me do a weight (275 back then) i could handle for 12 to 15 reps..with 30 seconds of rest between sets for 6 sets..i could only keep up with that shit for like a few months..

my college grades started to drop and i always felt i ws gonna blow my hearr cause i had to take like a 100 mgs of eph plus a cup of coffee before  i did that..and after i'd always shake so bad and crash so hard..

never again man..fuck no  >:(

where is the college spirit?  I will buy you a box of krispy kreme and a hooker
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 07:03:15 PM
Are you recovering from an injury?

its called weakness
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Alex23 on April 01, 2007, 07:04:55 PM
its called weakness

It was actually a serious question. Oh.. I see now... ;D
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:05:11 PM
Are you recovering from an injury?

watch call 4 yrs of hardcore drinking...not training.. partying and doing drugs?

umm yeah i guess! :-\


Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: antcraw on April 01, 2007, 07:05:41 PM
he owns your thoughts and he isnt even posting

hahaha Toxic will come thru or die in the gym at least it better happen that way
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 07:06:21 PM
watch call 4 yrs of hardcore drinking...not training.. partying and doing drugs?

umm yeah i guess! :-\




yet you still posted 16000 times on a bb forum ::)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:08:39 PM
where is the college spirit?  I will buy you a box of krispy kreme and a hooker

fuck no man..i remember lying in the college locker rooms after those workouts with a wet towel over my face honestly thinking that i'd messed up my body in some way perm ..and for real...


actually it ws around the same time that every fucking leg day with my partner rob became a torture session..100 rep leg presses with 600 lbs on the thing..i  never went for more than 30 quick ones in a go..but we'd rest pause the rest..which eventually led me to quitting training altogether..i started fearing and hating going to the gym..everytime i'd go i'd end up with a fever or heart palpitations or something..i've realized..such workout once in a blue moon are fun to brag about..but mentally ..nahh..maybe i'm a puss..never again..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:10:21 PM
yet you still posted 16000 times on a bb forum ::)

thanx for proving my point  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 07:13:07 PM
thanx for proving my point  :-\

which is?? you didnt train yet still posted????
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Fletch on April 01, 2007, 07:15:13 PM
another drunken fat slob talking about BB....

at least you admit you cant put up chlds weights in the squat
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:16:25 PM
which is?? you didnt train yet still posted????

huh??

my point being..if i have been posting THAT these past 3 yrs..or what not..i've obviously not been training..

oo..dont look at date joined..its wrong..as many times as i've changed me name from toxicavenger to proteinfarts and then back again..

bengie darlin...seriously..you effection for bitchfury now is coming across as an affection of the personality..

wait..your redneck ass wont get that...


what i mean is..you're coming across as a fa g..  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:19:19 PM
another drunken fat slob talking about BB....

at least you admit you cant put up chlds weights in the squat


another picture less tough guy that prolly looks like bitchfury talking about me...

btw..for those that missed it..me  ;D some old pix..



(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=135348.0;attach=151415;image)


Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: haider on April 01, 2007, 07:30:50 PM
How about the guy who's spotting you on bench and after 4-5 when you start to struggle a bit he grabs the bar and fully lifts back to the rack. That is the "over spotter".
I hate those fvckers, its happened to me 2-3 times already on the Squat. Being strength oriented it pisses me off even more cuz the fvcker destroyes a PR attempt that I will have to wait another week to do over! I get insanely pissed when that happens. Why'd u remind me  >:(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: haider on April 01, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
ya better start squatting boye..toxic a coming foo u!
bring it on!  8)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:41:12 PM
bring it on!  8)

i taught you your squat routine and form bitch...and on here..think for a second matie..someone that fixed your squat form problems without even seeing you squat..just by feel of your posts..well..i'll leave it at that


you can beat me on anything else..but tox a commeth..

as much pain  i put myself thru in the past...now its surprising what i call a normal workout and what others call a hard one.. :-\

since i'm offering proof<fri>..and 1 month from now i'll offer proof of 275 for 10..i'll need proof from yall shit talkers.. ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 01, 2007, 07:42:59 PM
i taught you your squat routine and form bitch...and on here..think for a second matie..someone that fixed your squat form problems without even seeing you squat..just by feel of your posts..well..i'll leave it at that


you can beat me on anything else..but tox a commeth..

as much pain  i put myself thru in the past...now its surprising what i call a normal workout and what others call a hard one.. :-\

since i'm offering proof<fri>..and 1 month from now i'll offer proof of 275 for 10..i'll need proof from yall shit talkers.. ;)

I know I give you shit but good luck
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: haider on April 01, 2007, 07:45:47 PM
i taught you your squat routine and form bitch...and on here..think for a second matie..someone that fixed your squat form problems without even seeing you squat..just by feel of your posts..well..i'll leave it at that
hahah those were good times man, I was a complete noob at the time and I had goatboy, geo, slippy, I think even flower rip on me about my squat numbers  :'(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:46:19 PM
I know I give you shit but good luck

dont need luck..i got something else  ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Alex23 on April 01, 2007, 07:46:56 PM
watch call 4 yrs of hardcore drinking...not training.. partying and doing drugs?

umm yeah i guess! :-\


Did you have a substance abuse problem? If you came on top and are training and making progress, nothing negative I can say man. 8)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:47:09 PM
hahah those were good times man, I was a complete noob at the time and I had goatboy, geo, slippy, I think even flower rip on me about my squat numbers  :'(

lmao..its only been 1 yr since...

newsflash..you r still a noob..  ;)

now what r you gonna do when i ask for YOUR video??
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:48:22 PM
Did you have a substance abuse problem? If you came on top and are training and making progress, nothing negative I can say man. 8)

i worked for night clubs man and partied too much..i live in a college town....blow blow and enough blow to kill a bull elephant..its over now..

and

thanx!  :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 07:50:20 PM
i never use spotters, exspecially with squads????? why do you need them for squads? if you cant do the squad for yourself, then the weight is too much.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: haider on April 01, 2007, 07:51:28 PM
lmao..its only been 1 yr since...

newsflash..you r still a noob..  ;)

now what r you gonna do when i ask for YOUR video??
No dude, its been atleast 2 years... prolly more. I registered here it says in july 2004 so I'd consider myself far from a noob  :P

I'll happily post a video, or you can check out my journal. I don't bullshit my numbers.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:52:57 PM
i never use spotters, exspecially with squads????? why do you need them for squads? if you cant do the squad for yourself, then the weight is too much.

moral support..and if ya ever go into that ...just 1 more rep mode..where ya start with 10 on your mind and then rest pause and end up with 17...

yanno what i mean..  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
No dude, its been atleast 2 years... prolly more. I registered here it says in july 2004 so I'd consider myself far from a noob  :P

I'll happily post a video, or you can check out my journal. I don't bullshit my numbers.

ok ..once i get 275 for 10 i'll ask for yours..

as for bullshitting..if i wanted to lie..dont ya think i woulda picked a weight higher than 225??  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 01, 2007, 07:55:27 PM
i never use spotters, exspecially with squads????? why do you need them for squads? if you cant do the squad for yourself, then the weight is too much.

um, because it's a good idea to push your limits. without a spotter you'll stop early. i always get a spotter when i get to my heavier sets.

besides, sometimes things go wrong. a few weeks ago i had 385 on my shoulders and stepped wrong, nearly fell over but my spotter helped keep me upright.

in other news, i'm glad you'll be putting up the video of 225x10 and all, but... gah. for an ex-powerlifting juicer, 225x10 should be a shoulder press, not a squat.  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: haider on April 01, 2007, 07:57:39 PM
ok ..once i get 275 for 10 i'll ask for yours..

as for bullshitting..if i wanted to lie..dont ya think i woulda picked a weight higher than 225??  :-\
Never said u lied dude... jsut that I dont lie in my journal, so whatever u see there is what would be videotaped. Some people have a ahrd time believing I can squat anything over 225  ;D
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:01:07 PM

 for an ex-powerlifting juicer, 225x10 should be a shoulder press, not a squat.  :-\

best lifts..once and for all ya cu nts..

138 lb weight class adfpa..when i ws 19.. i weighed 132

405squat
385 dead..dont ask..  :-\
185 bench (...once i pushed up the weight before waiting for the signal  :-[ )


in the gym best squat ws 405 for 8 (my weight 220..shoulder width..bbing squats NOt powerlifting squats)
best dead 405 for a double...i got lazy and would rep 315 for rep after rep..and never go higher...
best bench..225 for 4  :-[
best press 185 for 6 or 8..i dont remember..strict form..seated to the front..

there ya go..i guess i'm a weakling..


the lifts in bold were befroe i EVER touched juice..


Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 08:02:51 PM
what do you guys think of the front-squat. i think its better for the lower-back. reglar squads put too much tension on the back, on frontsquads your back is vertical all the time. i already eliminated deadlift, because of a lowerback injury. some excersisesarejust not worth it. you just have one back in life.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:05:03 PM
what do you guys think of the front-squat. i think its better for the lower-back. reglar squads put too much tension on the back, on frontsquads your back is vertical all the time. i already eliminated deadlift, because of a lowerback injury. some excersisesarejust not worth it. you just have one back in life.

http://www.qfac.com/gear/stingray.html


because my right should hurts ..well cause of what i said above..i use the manta ray..

sting ray..excellent device..used it once..not much for a fan of front squats..i prefer machine hacks with my toes raised so i have the weight on my heels..you'll hit the meat of your muscle everytime that way..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 08:06:49 PM
moral support..and if ya ever go into that ...just 1 more rep mode..where ya start with 10 on your mind and then rest pause and end up with 17...

yanno what i mean..  :-\

some people get a better workout by themselves, better concentration.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 08:10:38 PM
http://www.qfac.com/gear/stingray.html


because my right should hurts ..well cause of what i said above..i use the manta ray..

sting ray..excellent device..used it once..not much for a fan of front squats..i prefer machine hacks with my toes raised so i have the weight on my heels..you'll hit the meat of your muscle everytime that way..

yes i just started doing hacksquads 2 weeks, and i already got new visible cuts and mass on my outher quads, its great. i also put my feet real high otherwise my knees hurt.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:11:16 PM
some people get a better workout by themselves, better concentration.

i can totally see that...i'm just being a wuss man..i haven't felt pain in quite a long time..and my wuss ass needs the moral support..

i'll grow out of it as i 'training' mature..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: EL Mariachi on April 01, 2007, 08:13:51 PM
i can totally see that...i'm just being a wuss man..i haven't felt pain in quite a long time..and my wuss ass needs the moral support..

i'll grow out of it as i 'training' mature..

i experienced that a spotter is just good for the last rep, on failure. i dont think one rep is gonna make a big difference.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:15:18 PM
yes i just started doing hacksquads 2 weeks, and i already got new visible cuts and mass on my outher quads, its great. i also put my feet real high otherwise my knees hurt.

i put em midway with my toes raised..you can put something under your toes if ya want..and if you do you'll actually feel a contraction in your lateralis independent of the rest of the quad..orr it'll be much harder in your lateralis than the rest of your quad...

of course have your toes out<ish> and bring your knees together in a sizzor like motion..

of course..you cant use much weight when you r targeting like this..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
i experienced that a spotter is just good for the last rep, on failure. i dont think one rep is gonna make a big difference.

if the bastard had been paying attention..actually before my 8th rep i kept looking at him and ws getting pissed that he wasn't paying attention..he ws ruing my set midway thru  >:(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:29:38 PM
::)
Blame it on the spotter.
Blame it on the drugs.

soo tell me how many times have ya masterbated to stewart mc roberts pic? ;D


again..crap from a guy with no pic or evidence...i'll have evidence friday...how about ya post you doing 225 for 10 in the same thread fatty?  :)

and in 1 month ya wanna take me up on 275 for 10?

lets put our vids where our shit talking(supposidely model GF dating) no proof mouths are eh :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: sgt. d on April 01, 2007, 08:36:15 PM
Is this the same dude that said he took gear? That shit had to be fake :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:42:23 PM
Whose stewart mc roberts?

And, you're funny: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=138114.msg1963219#msg1963219

...and completely owned. With a capital "P".

no..you look like SHIT...

monster juice...busted face.. :-\  Mr natty my ass.. you have been training consistant how long now?? go kill yourself..in 1 yr i'll look better than you..mark my words..and shave your head..you r LOSIN G your hair..stop fighting it.. :-\

anyhow..how about your model dating ass and i go head to head on the squats eh...

1 month from now i post a vid of me squatting 275 for 10...i expect that same..unless you r doing 315 for 10...gimme 2 months  :)

n g'nite
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:43:16 PM
Is this the same dude that said he took gear? That shit had to be fake :-\

o good lord..did he pm ya and ask you to help him out..yeesh..  ::)

thay shit got old on the x 3 yrs ago..pfft..

pathetic
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: sgt. d on April 01, 2007, 08:46:46 PM
o good lord..did he pm ya and ask you to help him out..yeesh..  ::)

thay shit got old on the x 3 yrs ago..pfft..

pathetic

Okay what exactly did you use 3 years ago?
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:50:46 PM
hahah, monster jealousy.





what bed?? no jeleousy mate..first and foremost i pride myself   in the fact that i can pull off good looking without a single day in the gym..YOU CANT...you got a busted face and receding hairline..which is why i suspect ya decided to get big.lol..and you date a model?? ..pffy..lol yeeeah RIGHT! ::)


anyhow..i asked..what do you squat?? r you gonna answer me or bullshit around ?? do tell all of us what you squat??

if its under 400..i'll beat it by june..and post a video of doing it..

as i said..i haven't posted my 225 for 10 yet so this is all bullshit till then..but after..i'm coming after you..quoting this thread and asking you for proof!  :)

i'll check this thread tomorrow morning for your answer..
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 01, 2007, 08:51:48 PM
Okay what exactly did you use 3 years ago?

cheddar bunnies were big..  ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2007, 09:14:53 PM
I didn't read the whole thread but dude, you don't need a good spotter, you need LESS WEIGHT !

If you need someone to spot you to squat correctly, you are gay

you don't need anything but safety bar and I have yet to see a squat rack who doesn't have safety bars
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: gordiano on April 01, 2007, 09:27:00 PM
i almost seriously injured myself while squatting cause my spotter (who i picked cause he ws also training legs) ws staring out at the lake outside the gym window while i ws squatting..<chantilly VA golds>

i pretty much half squatted ..half good morninged out of the hole..

my left lower ab hurt bad after but feels fine now..we'll see how sore my lower back is tomorrow..


i didn't even finish ..i just grabbed my keys and slow walked out of the gym pissed off.. >:(




Hey, it happens man.

Believe me.

Next time, use weight you CAN handle. Not flaming, just speaking the truth.  :-\
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Stavios on April 01, 2007, 09:29:00 PM
Hey, it happens man.

Believe me.

Next time, use weight you CAN handle. Not flaming, just speaking the truth.  :-\
you speak the truth as always Gordiano

shame on the ego lifters  >:(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: antcraw on April 01, 2007, 10:58:53 PM
you speak the truth as always Gordiano

shame on the ego lifters  >:(

Can 225 be considered an ego lift?   ???
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Alex23 on April 01, 2007, 11:08:48 PM
what bed?? no jeleousy mate..first and foremost i pride myself   in the fact that i can pull off good looking without a single day in the gym..YOU CANT...you got a busted face and receding hairline..which is why i suspect ya decided to get big.lol..and you date a model?? ..pffy..lol yeeeah RIGHT! ::)


anyhow..i asked..what do you squat?? r you gonna answer me or bullshit around ?? do tell all of us what you squat??

if its under 400..i'll beat it by june..and post a video of doing it..

as i said..i haven't posted my 225 for 10 yet so this is all bullshit till then..but after..i'm coming after you..quoting this thread and asking you for proof!  :)

i'll check this thread tomorrow morning for your answer..


Toxic, sorry man but you're  barking up the wrong tree..

say what you want about  Garreath is a big dude  with a lot of potential.

Saw him at the O a little overweight at 280 but he acted on it and is doing pretty decent. Strong as hell as well.

Where you going with this anyway ?

Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Stavios on April 02, 2007, 04:33:43 AM
Can 225 be considered an ego lift?   ???

if you can only handle 135 lbs, yes  8)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Hedgehog on April 02, 2007, 04:51:03 AM
lmao..and why isn't the bitch posting??

o no..this is as much for you also mate..gimme 1 month and i'll hit 275 for 10..

225 for 10 is in the bag by friday as far as i'm concerned..i got 1 more leg day to go before friday..


as i said ...muscle mem is a bitch! ;D

ya better start squatting boye..toxic a coming foo u!

BF is helping you.

You needed a kick in the ass to get your ass squatting and in shape again.

You'll be thanking him come summer, when you don't look like a pencil neck.

-Hedge
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: benjamin pearson on April 02, 2007, 05:24:38 AM
huh??

my point being..if i have been posting THAT these past 3 yrs..or what not..i've obviously not been training..

oo..dont look at date joined..its wrong..as many times as i've changed me name from toxicavenger to proteinfarts and then back again..

bengie darlin...seriously..you effection for bitchfury now is coming across as an affection of the personality..

wait..your redneck ass wont get that...


what i mean is..you're coming across as a fa g..  :-\

ya im sorry I should bow down to my inillectual superior, a guy who wastes his life sniffing coke and leaving his ADHD uncontrolled ::)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: sgt. d on April 02, 2007, 06:31:18 AM
BF is helping you.

You needed a kick in the ass to get your ass squatting and in shape again.

You'll be thanking him come summer, when you don't look like a pencil neck.

-Hedge

hedge how are you looking these days?
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: The Squadfather on April 02, 2007, 07:29:38 AM
i KNEW bitchfurys bestest fiend would bring this up..

i said friday..and friday it'll be.. even if i fail..

fyi...  today 185 for 15..2 sets

225..for easy 5..

225..for 8..i ws burying em all..no belt..(and you'll see how far down i go).and this happend on the 8th..kinda wish i had paralleled it..


anyhow..friday.. and once i hit 275 for 10..i'll ask for yours..

and the 405 by end on june is also still on  :)

...muscle memory can be a bitch ;D
a few months ago i asked one of the "personal trainers" to watch me on my last set of squats, this guy is actually one of the cooler more knowledgeable guys there so i figured that he knew how to spot, i took the weight out steeped back with my right foot and then with my left and i fuccking stepped on this clowns foot with my left foot, i'm lucky i didn't fall.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 02, 2007, 07:44:38 AM
a few months ago i asked one of the "personal trainers" to watch me on my last set of squats, this guy is actually one of the cooler more knowledgeable guys there so i figured that he knew how to spot, i took the weight out steeped back with my right foot and then with my left and i fuccking stepped on this clowns foot with my left foot, i'm lucky i didn't fall.

personally I that people should use the smith machine for squatting,  it allows you to get a much deeper bend and also crank out more reps
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Saxon on April 02, 2007, 07:51:23 AM
personally I that people should use the smith machine for squatting,  it allows you to get a much deeper bend and also crank out more reps

I always use the smith machine, mainly as the gym i use doesn't have a squat rack or even stands you could use for squatting :'(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Playboy on April 02, 2007, 07:57:50 AM
i almost seriously injured myself while squatting cause my spotter (who i picked cause he ws also training legs) ws staring out at the lake outside the gym window while i ws squatting..<chantilly VA golds>

i pretty much half squatted ..half good morninged out of the hole..

my left lower ab hurt bad after but feels fine now..we'll see how sore my lower back is tomorrow..


i didn't even finish ..i just grabbed my keys and slow walked out of the gym pissed off.. >:(



Rule of thoumb:
Never ask someone to spot you if they don't have anything to show for it. At least if they look like bbdr's, chances are they are experienced and they can spot you. Live and learn, bro.

PB
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 08:48:11 AM
BF is helping you.

You needed a kick in the ass to get your ass squatting and in shape again.

You'll be thanking him come summer, when you don't look like a pencil neck.

-Hedge

dont ya think i knew this when i ws purposely getting myself into this..my upper body is suffering though..i do a light all upper body when and if i can get it in..soo i'll still look like a pencil neck above the waist..  :-\


good news though..although yesterday i felt the twinge in my left lower ab only my exterior obliques are sore  ???

and i ckecked in the mirror..one side dosen't buldge more than the other..lower back although sorish is ok..soo tonite its hacks and leg presses and  light calves :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 08:49:12 AM
ya im sorry I should bow down to my inillectual superior, a guy who wastes his life sniffing coke and leaving his ADHD uncontrolled ::)

i do that to mayybe helping people like you understand me..

otherwise mate..you would've failed to concieve to contrive this reply!  ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 08:50:12 AM


Monster need for public acceptance.  ::)



newsflash..this be a bbing forum  ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 08:52:46 AM
Toxic, sorry man but you're  barking up the wrong tree..

say what you want about  Garreath is a big dude  with a lot of potential.

Saw him at the O a little overweight at 280 but he acted on it and is doing pretty decent. Strong as hell as well.

Where you going with this anyway ?



nowwhere except..it ws him jumping into this thread (go check) with a case of vaginitis :-\  want me to sit here and take it? :-\  ya sure dont when people jump on you...right??

plus..i asked a simple question of him..how much does he squat??

he wont answer..cause step 2 is when i'll ask for proof..  :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 08:54:41 AM
heh, yeah 225x10...easy. oh, lookie...my first getbig lifting brag.

...not that I train for strength -- size and brute strength are not dependent upon each other...so PF! has pointed himself in the wrong direction -- again.
--first roiding haphazardly
--second lifting with shit form (as seen in this thread about how it's his spotters fault for him loosing it  ::) ) for strength while roiding for size

 ::)

--oh: third barking back (like a football-sized yipping dog) at experienced people who try and advise him cuz he's a god in the gym



www.kitsnmore.com

arimidex..get some!  :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: The Squadfather on April 02, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
nowwhere except..it ws him jumping into this thread (go check) with a case of vaginitis :-\  want me to sit here and take it? :-\  ya sure dont when people jump on you...right??

plus..i asked a simple question of him..how much does he squat??

he wont answer..cause step 2 is when i'll ask for proof..  :)
i'd say that Garraeth squats a lot from looking at him, big strong dude.
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 09:01:42 AM
i'd say that Garraeth squats a lot from looking at him, big strong dude.

i'd like to know how much..soo i have a goal...i'll get 405 by end of june..

i just need to lose a few so my damn belt fits me again..

btw..he's natty! ;)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Alex23 on April 02, 2007, 09:24:15 AM
Yeah, even after Milos' killer leg workout I'm not sore (the more I say that, the more nervious I get for our next leg workout cuz I just know he's gonna murder me and humble me). I love doing legs. It's my favorite body part.

But I won't do 405 any time soon. Sorry PF!, I'll stick to what makes my physique grow, not my ego.

... and keep your lumbar longer... learned the hard way...  :(
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 09:42:48 AM
Ok, so why are you here then? You're practicing powerlifting.

i am??

we'll compare leg fotos come december...i wont forget.. :)
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 02, 2007, 10:14:29 AM
Yeah, even after Milos' killer leg workout I'm not sore (the more I say that, the more nervious I get for our next leg workout cuz I just know he's gonna murder me and humble me). I love doing legs. It's my favorite body part.

But I won't do 405 any time soon. Sorry PF!, I'll stick to what makes my physique grow, not my ego.



my gym is mostly guys...soo no ego training..

anyhow..i'm all for quality of contraction...i've been preaching this on getbig even when i wasn't training..but some take it too far..

there needs to be a balance between the 2..ie progressive resistance and progressive quality of contraction..

ie a balance between how heavy ya go and how effeciently you can train the muscle with a given weight (of course the latter being easier with relatively light weight)

once one gets used to using heavier weights..... 4 months later the same heavy weights can be used as your squeeze weights..

the end
Title: Re: Douchebag spotters in the gym....
Post by: Rome on April 02, 2007, 10:17:39 AM
i almost seriously injured myself while squatting cause my spotter (who i picked cause he ws also training legs) ws staring out at the lake outside the gym window while i ws squatting..<chantilly VA golds>

i pretty much half squatted ..half good morninged out of the hole..

my left lower ab hurt bad after but feels fine now..we'll see how sore my lower back is tomorrow..


i didn't even finish ..i just grabbed my keys and slow walked out of the gym pissed off.. >:(



When I can't do full reps on my own I do partial and negatives. Of course you don't really need a spotter for that. Haven't used  a spotter in over 10 years. You know exactly how much you can do on your own WITHOUT a spotter and with the decline in the popularity of bodybuilding fewer people train hardcore and know what the hell they're doing. I'm gonna trust some jagg off who's talking on his cell to spot me while Ive got 400+ pounds on the bench? Pass. Also it's annoying to have people ASK you to spot them and I'd rather not feel obligated to return the favor. I'll get a few more reps with a lighter weight on my own, thanks :)