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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MADMAX6 on May 17, 2007, 08:03:32 AM
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Here's a pic of Jay 18 weeks from the Olympia taken yesterday at the shop. The prep is about to start and he's about to get big he says.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/DSC03267.jpg)
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huge beyond belief as usual.
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Dave,
What's his weight in that picture?
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damn, cutler has weapons of his own, for those who kept thinking Ronnie is ready to fight
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looking good
dude is in shape year round. :o
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looks very sharp this far out
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Looks to be ready to fight over the 2nd place!
TEAM MARTINEZ BABY!
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is he gonna loose his wieder contract now? Bob, Shawn?
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Pilates paying off for the champ.
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is he gonna loose his wieder contract now? Bob, Shawn?
that will never happen, Jay is the Weider's wet dream, huge, blonde and blue eyed.
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Very impressive !!
4 months out from the Mr.O ,but Cutler has a lot of appearances in June & early July .
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Here's a pic of Jay 18 weeks from the Olympia taken yesterday at the shop. The prep is about to start and he's about to get big he says.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/DSC03267.jpg)
Look at those freakin lats. :o
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Dave,
What's his weight in that picture?
295
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His gut looks to be in check, unlike Ronnie in the other pics recently.
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295
you think he has improved anything since last year?
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He could have walked into the NY pro in that condition and destroyed everyone.. :-X
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Looking real good there. Especially for offseason.
I hope when he "gets big" he keeps his stomach/abs tight. Anything he can do to shrink his obliques? Does he train them? (If so, tell him to stop)
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Man look at the abs... Ronnie is in trouble that's fo sure :'( :-\
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaand I'm impressed.
Should be a sweet O this year.
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you think he has improved anything since last year?
I think so but I'm biased, you'll have to wait and see for yourself. He lost of whole lot of muscle at the last minute 10 days out from last year's show due to a stomach virus, knock on wood this won't happen this year.
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Ronnie needs to get his shit together this year
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Cutler is a legend.
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I like Cutler but other than the change he made last year by gaining new mass in his back and getting shredded glutes...he still looks the same
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Cutler has a tight midsection 18 weeks out....he must've been guest posing; regardless, that's impressive and reflects a good work ethic for a bb.
Is that an oxymoron...."work ethic for a bb"? They don't really "work".
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Cutler is a legend.
not yet... he has to win the Sandow a couple times more
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I'm not a huge jay fan but he looks great in that picture.
8)
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Look at those freakin lats. :o
Nothing special about his lats.
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that will never happen, Jay is the Weider's wet dream, huge, blonde and blue eyed.
You may have a point; you just described every single Mr Olympia since 1981.
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(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/Ron.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/DSC03267.jpg)
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You may have a point; you just described every single Mr Olympia since 1981.
Yes, Dickerson, Bannout, Columbo, Haney, and Coleman all had that blonde hair, blue eyed look.
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Yes, Dickerson, Bannout, Columbo, Haney, and Coleman all had that blonde hair, blue eyed look.
I did not get that one either.
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how come jay can be so lean and have zero vascularity?
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I did not get that one either.
The guy is clearly obsessing with the "Aryan ideal". Ironically, he looks middle eastern / northern African.
This is quite sad.
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Jay looks amazing aside from Ruhl he has the best upper chest development I have ever seen. I remember Jim Rockell saying on Dan Gastelu's show that Jay doesn't have a deep set of abs. Not this time he is way ahead. I think he could be ready in 12 weeks. Ronnie as much as I don't want to count him out is going to have to bring back that monster that stepped on stage in 03 to knock out Jay without any questions.
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i am speechless :o..jay is looking flawless..ronnie looks like a cow next to jay
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Thanks me to god the O is still some time off, Ronnie will improve I'm sure,.
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i am speechless :o..jay is looking flawless..ronnie looks like a cow next to jay
Ronnie looks like how someone 18 weeks out would look.
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Thanks me to god the O is still some time off, Ronnie will improve I'm sure,.
I was in the city earlier and there was a german tourist there asking for directions.. haha I immediately thought of you. :-X
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Thanks me to god the O is still some time off, Ronnie will improve I'm sure,.
ronnie 'fat' coleman is no where near this guy..dude just look how super lean jay is looking 18 weeks out :o..ronnie looks like a tub of shit
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ronnie f'at' coleman is no where near this guy..dude just look how super lean jay is looking 18 weeks out :o..ronnie looks like a tub of shit
Jay looks awesome and probably has the biggest chin in bbing history!
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Jay looks awesome and probably has the biggest chin in bbing history!
yeah he is gonna get marked down for having a big chin ::)
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yes I agree jay looks fugging stunning :-\
Damn lol I want Ronnie to win one more time ^^
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yes I agree jay looks fugging stunning :-\
Damn lol I want Ronnie to win one more time ^^
I thought Jay was the deutschland ideal? ^^
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yes I agree jay looks fugging stunning :-\
Damn lol I want Ronnie to win one more time ^^
ronnie ain't gonna win..he is a mutant toad with multiple torn muscles..like i always say he looks like a tub of shit 8)
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ronnie ain't gonna win..he is a mutant toad with multiple torn muscles..like i always say he looks like a tub of shit 8)
What would happen if Ronnie went to India?
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Jay looks great, but nothing new under the sun. Same old Jay and same Dave hugging his nuts.
The Beef
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...and same people complaining while others are grateful.
Txs.
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yeah he is gonna get marked down for having a big chin ::)
LOL, hey but it worked for Jay Leno. Does having the name Jay = big chin , hmmmmm.
I sincerely think that while Ronne was a decent guy and incredible Mr O, Jay has the personality to work a crowd and sell our sport. He is a real ambassador for the sport.
Howard
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Wow! If Jay looks this good at only 18 weeks out... :o
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i am speechless :o..jay is looking flawless..ronnie looks like a cow next to jay
Wow! If Jay looks this good at only 18 weeks out... :o
the only thing that matters is how jay and ronnie look on the day of the contest
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if jay can streamline his waist from last year, hold the condition he had...damn.
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the only thing that matters is how jay and ronnie look on the day of the contest
;)
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cutler = no forearms+shitty lower back+the shape of a fridge
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cutler = no forearms+shitty lower back+the shape of a fridge
and the current mr. O
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cutler = no forearms+shitty lower back+the shape of a fridge
wow. Do you really believe after last week that any judge is gonna look at his forearms? Or care that he's shaped like a fridge, his shape is still 100 times better than Branch's. this pic is damn impressive to me, just found it the other day:
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Yes, I agree, that's mine.
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Yes, I agree, that's mine.
can you post the rest of those shots? I missed em when they were floating around and thoguht they were great, I'd love to get em, jay looks fantastic in the whole series.
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the only thing that looks more conditioned on jay is his abs. Other then that ronnies arms look lightyears ahead, as do the delts and chest. Ronne also looks alot bigger. If he can tighten his waist and spread the back, its lights out for jay.
i dont see how jay is so conditioned, no vascularity, no cuts, arms look smooth, ronnie look diced to shit with a split.
ronnie is more impressive but his gut may be too far gone. Ronnies legs also look like they would on contest day, dry, hard and seperated.
i find jay unimpressive for some reason. Its like his skin is thick or something, and nothing happens when he hits a shot in previous years.
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can you post the rest of those shots? I missed em when they were floating around and thoguht they were great, I'd love to get em, jay looks fantastic in the whole series.
I'll look for them.
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LOL, hey but it worked for Jay Leno. Does having the name Jay = big chin , hmmmmm.
I sincerely think that while Ronne was a decent guy and incredible Mr O, Jay has the personality to work a crowd and sell our sport. He is a real ambassador for the sport.
Howard
You have got to be kidding!!!??? ???
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ronnie ain't gonna win..he is a mutant toad with multiple torn muscles..like i always say he looks like a tub of shit 8)
haha ok 'bluto' ::)
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Cutler is an amazing BB. He naturally has a wide waist but through years of training and manipulating his body in all the right places it has been looking smaller every year (especially noticable when standing alone). Alot of Jay haters will still call him a fridge but those days are long past. His waist may be wide compared to dexter for example, but everything else is extrapolated to the same degree. He has his $hit together, He will win the O again this year. You can bank on it.
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Cutler is an amazing BB. He naturally has a wide waist but through years of training and manipulating his body in all the right places it has been looking smaller every year (especially noticable when standing alone). Alot of Jay haters will still call him a fridge but those days are long past. His waist may be wide compared to dexter for example, but everything else is extrapolated to the same degree. He has his $hit together, He will win the O again this year. You can bank on it.
well said , my thoughts exactly
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(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/Ron.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/DSC03267.jpg)
Ronnie needs to take care of the gyno....again.
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It doesn't matter how big or ripped Ronnie is, his gut is so big that it ruins his entire physique. That gut is pretty much irreversible too; he looks disgusting and is done.
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It doesn't matter how big or ripped Ronnie is, his gut is so big that it ruins his entire physique. That gut is pretty much irreversible too; he looks disgusting and is done.
bah
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men194.jpg)
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madmax: have you ever been to the toilet straight after jay was in there taking a dump?
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That conditioning at 18 weeks out is unbelievable. I know that he has pretty much held his condition since the Olympia because of his incredibly busy appearance schedule. The positive is that he has represented the sport well by appearing in such incredible condition even during his off-season. The negative is that most pros use the off-season to either give their receptors a break or to grow. You have to figure that without an off-season, Jay has done neither. In my opinion, 2007 will see a Jay Cutler without improvements. The question is whether an improved Ronnie will be enough to regain the title.
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Dunno- looks like Ronnie's pulling all the stops and bringing more ripped, freaky mass to the O than anyone, ever. It'll be a total mess, but he'll be the freakiest ever, win his 10, then off to the sunset... nice story
But from this pic, Jay's actually looking like the aesthetic alternative to the "superfreak"!?!? Big pretty much everywhere, with the improved back- but tight abs and no torn muscles ?
How can Jay be #1, with Ronnie #2, and then Martinez/Badell/Freeman/Jackson #3 ?
Winner takes all!!!!
Biggest, freakiest Ronnie ever #1, then the rest, with Branch riding the wave to #5
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Jay gets a little better #1, and Ronnie drops down next to Branch at 10th...
Getting psyched for this O !
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bah
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men194.jpg)
Look at the detail in his midsection :o :o :o :o :o
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Jay looks good.
Unfortunately Big Ron is too old and beat up (atrophied left lat). The old Ronnie would destroy Jay. But Ronnie is done.
Jay has great legs - but his back, delts, arms seem to have a layer of water or fat that obscures any definition ???
Somehow he has striated quads, but not in his lower back, delts, or triceps. Just weird.
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Look at the detail in his midsection :o :o :o :o :o
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ::) ::) ::) ::)
midsections dont win Olympia's
hope this helps Al ::)
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Pilates paying off for the champ.
haha.. I was thinking the same thing!
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you guys are nuts. the only thing that jay looks to have more conditioned is his midsection.
ronnies legs look contest ready, arms are diced, and he looks to be 30-40 pounds heavier then jay.
jay looks soft as usual.
ronnie had a bigger gut in the offseason in years past.
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bah
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_pre_men194.jpg)
Either a definite a torn lat or he forgot to do rows for his left lat. Look at his lat insertion.
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Ronnie will always have more veins popping out all over his body (like Branch) due to massive stack of drugs but Jay will always be more cut and polished than Ronnie
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Ronnie will always have more veins popping out all over his body (like Branch) due to massive stack of drugs but Jay will always be more cut and polished than Ronnie
MORE CUT? ahahahhahaha.
what do you define as cuts?
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Too bad his arms will look the same way on contest day, just a little darker. :-\
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Ronnie will always have more veins popping out all over his body (like Branch) due to massive stack of drugs but Jay will always be more cut and polished than Ronnie
The drugs have very little to do with vascularity...genetics is the reason. Ronnie has had pipe-like veins long before he started with AAS.
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The drugs have very little to do with vascularity...genetics is the reason. Ronnie has had pipe-like veins long before he started with AAS.
Drugs play a role.
How vascular you appear is due to the genetic depth of your veins relative to the skin surface.
However, the more muscle you grow, the more you stimulate angiogenesis (the growth of blood vessels).
If you look at Ronnie during his Olympia reign, he has gotten MORE vascular (even in his arms), and this is to be expected given his increase in muscularity; the muscle needs more blood to feed it oxygen and nutrients.
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Drugs play a role.
How vascular you appear is due to the genetic depth of your veins relative to the skin surface.
However, the more muscle you grow, the more you stimulate angiogenesis (the growth of blood vessels).
If you look at Ronnie during his Olympia reign, he has gotten MORE vascular (even in his arms), and this is to be expected given his increase in muscularity; the muscle needs more blood to feed it oxygen and nutrients.
Exactly. The original comment was "massive amounts of drugs" being the reason that Ronnie is more vascular than Jay. To assume that Jay is less vascular than Ronnie because he takes "less" drugs than Ronnie is incorrect. Drugs play a role but aren't the reason a person has vascularity.
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That conditioning at 18 weeks out is unbelievable. I know that he has pretty much held his condition since the Olympia because of his incredibly busy appearance schedule. The positive is that he has represented the sport well by appearing in such incredible condition even during his off-season. The negative is that most pros use the off-season to either give their receptors a break or to grow. You have to figure that without an off-season, Jay has done neither. In my opinion, 2007 will see a Jay Cutler without improvements. The question is whether an improved Ronnie will be enough to regain the title.
Everyone should read this twice. Dead on accurate.
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Ronnie will always have more veins popping out all over his body (like Branch) due to massive stack of drugs but Jay will always be more cut and polished than Ronnie
Everyone eats at the same buffet.
That extreme vascularity is from genetics. If there was a pill that did that for Jay, you'd better believe he'd be all over that. Ronnie has that garden hose bicep vein. Titus had it too. A guy like cutler will never have that. nothing to do with what they take. Genetics.
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Jay looks good.
Unfortunately Big Ron is too old and beat up (atrophied left lat). The old Ronnie would destroy Jay. But Ronnie is done.
Jay has great legs - but his back, delts, arms seem to have a layer of water or fat that obscures any definition ???
Somehow he has striated quads, but not in his lower back, delts, or triceps. Just weird.
im sorry to disturbe this lovely thread but let me clarify it for you some so no questions are left,,
1. ron is black and jason is white
2. ron as a clean bodybuilder now days would compete at 260lb while jason would at 220lb
3. ron and jason are in 2 diff leages when it comes to muscle quality
4. jason has seo in the bodyparts mentioned which makes his veins even less visible than what they could have been,, ron has NO SEO in his arms or any other bodypart,,lots of growth and igf but not no seo
5. if jason wanted to go the no seo route he wouldnt be standing on the stage next to ron but would be placing lower at about the same placing as matarazza in his days,,
6. if ron comes with no lat again he will lose again,, if he is healed he will be mr o,,as simple as that
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2. ron as a clean bodybuilder now days would compete at 260lb while jason would at 220lb
Bull. This is right along with the same stuff said by Tom Prince. He said that completely clean/steroid-free he had to FIGHT to get below 240 lbs (was it 240?). Of course, that was quickly proven wrong. Not saying Ron would be as small as Pince but no way would he be COMPETING (i.e. super low fat) at 260 lbs completely clean.
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ron = big fat black boy,,you see plenty of the at your gym,,only diff is ron got superior generic responspnse to hormones and been training in some way or another all his life,,
thomas = white thin swimmer build with superior response to hormones
thomas = 180lb clean or natural
ron = 250lb clean or natural if not more,,,see lee haney and sergio oliva
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Bull. This is right along with the same stuff said by Tom Prince. He said that completely clean/steroid-free he had to FIGHT to get below 240 lbs (was it 240?). Of course, that was quickly proven wrong. Not saying Ron would be as small as Pince but no way would he be COMPETING (i.e. super low fat) at 260 lbs completely clean.
Are you telling me that a 5'10" man at 260lbs natural in that kind of condition is not possible? gh might know some things about the bodybuilding scene, but, first year biology might not be his strong suit. I have been in school too long to believe that load of shit and neither should anyone else.
There is no hard and fast reason that either Ron or Jay have something up and over eachother. Many phenotypes are polygenic and as soon as you introduce exogenous hormones in the amounts these guys do, all bets are off. Nobody can predict any of this stuff.
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Everyone should read this twice. Dead on accurate.
Why is it accurate? Because Jay has been in great shape all year, that must mean that he nevers comes off and clean his system right? WRONG, he never stops training, he's ALWAYS on his diet or close to it. He's been off for a long time now and when he does start his prep, you will notice because he'll get a whole lot better. I'll ask him if I can take some pics and keep you guys posted and show you the difference, if you guys think that Jay will not show improvements this year, you'll be really surprised.
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Why is it accurate? Because Jay has been in great shape all year, that must mean that he nevers comes off and clean his system right? WRONG, he never stops training, he's ALWAYS on his diet or close to it. He's been off for a long time now and when he does start his prep, you will notice because he'll get a whole lot better. I'll ask him if I can take some pics and keep you guys posted and show you the difference, if you guys think that Jay will not show improvements this year, you'll be really surprised.
I fail to see the corralation between a wider waist and "improvement". :-\
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(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/Ron.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/davemadmax6/DSC03267.jpg)
Ronnie looks like a 60 year old pregnant drug addict with bitch tits. And whilst Jay's physique isn't my cup of tea, he hasn't looked as good since his NPC days. Take into account that the the reigning Mr Olympia always has a heads up with the judges and this year's O is practically a done deal. I think Victor is a bigger threat to Jay than Ronnie is. I've said it a million times but I'll say it again, what Ronnie has done to his body is such a shame :(.
SERGIO!!!!
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I think ronnie looks very young...
(http://index.hu/cikkepek/0705/velvet/coleman//.gdata/gp_IMG_4754.jpg)
He looks terrible in this pic. Not healthy at all.
SERGIO!!!!
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how come jay can be so lean and have zero vascularity?
i was thinking the same thing. ab etching / liposuction?
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Bull. This is right along with the same stuff said by Tom Prince. He said that completely clean/steroid-free he had to FIGHT to get below 240 lbs (was it 240?). Of course, that was quickly proven wrong. Not saying Ron would be as small as Pince but no way would he be COMPETING (i.e. super low fat) at 260 lbs completely clean.
Ronnie was a college linebacker and already had a massive build before the drugs! Jay is all drugs. Jay started taking Gear before Ronnie did, literally! (20-21 years old) and Ronnie is 7 years older than him! (started on the gear in the mid 90's) Ronnie turned pro at a Natural show! Yes when Ronnie is "retired" hes still going to be in the 250's range. Where Jay will fall around 190-210lbs.
Guys who were competing at "teen shows" IE Tom Prince, Jay Cutler, Branch etc. Are ALL DRUGS. Ronnie didnt do a show until he was 26. And already competing as a heavy-weight. Use some common sense here people!!!
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that will never happen, Jay is the Weider's wet dream, huge, blonde and blue eyed.
You forgot good looking and tall!
Team Guntermania! ;)
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im sorry to disturbe this lovely thread but let me clarify it for you some so no questions are left,,
1. ron is black and jason is white
2. ron as a clean bodybuilder now days would compete at 260lb while jason would at 220lb
3. ron and jason are in 2 diff leages when it comes to muscle quality
4. jason has seo in the bodyparts mentioned which makes his veins even less visible than what they could have been,, ron has NO SEO in his arms or any other bodypart,,lots of growth and igf but not no seo
5. if jason wanted to go the no seo route he wouldnt be standing on the stage next to ron but would be placing lower at about the same placing as matarazza in his days,,
6. if ron comes with no lat again he will lose again,, if he is healed he will be mr o,,as simple as that
What is SEO ?????
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What is SEO ?????
Site Enhancement Oil or Nolotil or some other injectable, non-absorbed substance that increases the size of the localized bodypart. See Dexter's biceps, Ernie Taylor's triceps, every pro's rear delts, Ronnie's calves, and Mike Dragnas' side delts.
Hope that helps.
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Site Enhancement Oil or Nolotil or some other injectable, non-absorbed substance that increases the size of the localized bodypart. See Dexter's biceps, Ernie Taylor's triceps, every pro's rear delts, Ronnie's calves, and Mike Dragnas' side delts.
Hope that helps.
It does. Thanks.
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What is SEO ?????
Something like Synthol
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Why is it accurate? Because Jay has been in great shape all year, that must mean that he nevers comes off and clean his system right? WRONG, he never stops training, he's ALWAYS on his diet or close to it. He's been off for a long time now and when he does start his prep, you will notice because he'll get a whole lot better. I'll ask him if I can take some pics and keep you guys posted and show you the difference, if you guys think that Jay will not show improvements this year, you'll be really surprised.
He hasn't been completely off, that's a bunch of BS. Maybe he went on "HRT" (cruising on just some test and GH), but completely off - no way.
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Ronnie was a college linebacker and already had a massive build before the drugs! Jay is all drugs. Jay started taking Gear before Ronnie did, literally! (20-21 years old) and Ronnie is 7 years older than him! (started on the gear in the mid 90's) Ronnie turned pro at a Natural show! Yes when Ronnie is "retired" hes still going to be in the 250's range. Where Jay will fall around 190-210lbs.
Guys who were competing at "teen shows" IE Tom Prince, Jay Cutler, Branch etc. Are ALL DRUGS. Ronnie didnt do a show until he was 26. And already competing as a heavy-weight. Use some common sense here people!!!
very good my friend,,very good
let me add little something here,,
to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)
but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,
in addition jason will not get any bigger than 295 with this kind of condition since he stands at 7%,,he will get down to 275-280 at 4% and step on stage like everytime,,
beside kevin and coupe more who built it up,,,99% of us take it down from 20 to 50lb for a show,,
now thats is more of the truth so...keep it this way
* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years
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jay doesnt look impressive enough to be mr o!
as for ronnie, he looks like shit, absolutely horrible.
just saw a clip from ronnies first movie (from 96 i think?), which i havent seen in a long time...he was amazing back then. and by 1998 he had all the size he ever needed.
ronnie arms are smaller than before, gut is still big, his muscles are lumpy etc etc.....he has fucked up his proportions and symmetry!
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* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years
This is exactly what I was going to say, I have no doubts Coleman was juicing as a college football player.
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you guys are nuts. the only thing that jay looks to have more conditioned is his midsection.
ronnies legs look contest ready, arms are diced, and he looks to be 30-40 pounds heavier then jay.
jay looks soft as usual.
ronnie had a bigger gut in the offseason in years past.
When will you people learn that biceps simply aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. Both Cutler and Yates had subpar biceps compared to other pros, yet they still became Mr. Olympia. Eventhough Ronnie's triceps aren't all that great from the side, he still has the greatest set of arms in the history of the sport. They are symmetrical, peaked, huge, separated and vascular. Yet Ronnie's arms did him nothing against Cutler. No reason to think they will this year either.
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Compare to Coleman,I think Cutler must improve his bicepes's peak .
And the "most muscular pose". ;D ;D
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Everyone knows 06Olympia was fixed!!
This is master of obvious ::)
Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic
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Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic
only problem is that neither of them should have been in the top 3.
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Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/thumbwar.png)
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(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/thumbwar.png)
bwahaha!
Excuse me folks, I've never seen that cartoon before. :D
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only problem is that neither of them should have been in the top 3.
Look at Gunter in disgust..
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When will you people learn that biceps simply aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. Both Cutler and Yates had subpar biceps compared to other pros, yet they still became Mr. Olympia.
Quite the opposite, bis are one of the show muscles, appropriately named because they're inordinately important. Yates won despite this shortcoming, not because it didn't matter.
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Look at those freakin lats. :o
Jay Cutler makes untermenschen of us all. :(
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Jay Cutler makes untermenschen of us all. :(
I wouldn't say that...but they are inpressive indeed. :D
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to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)
but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,
Thanks for not allowing this MadMax guy to try and run bullshit by us.
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very good my friend,,very good
let me add little something here,,
to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)
but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,
in addition jason will not get any bigger than 295 with this kind of condition since he stands at 7%,,he will get down to 275-280 at 4% and step on stage like everytime,,
beside kevin and coupe more who built it up,,,99% of us take it down from 20 to 50lb for a show,,
now thats is more of the truth so...keep it this way
* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years
Quoted for the truth.........
He's on GH slin year round there's no secret he can retain mass on that, plus low dose test.
he's so unhealthy he's got the bloodd work of a 60 year old by pass victim.
I really would hate to be him skin cancer blown liver cardiac arrest stroke thyroid and other pituatary problems kidney failure all great things to do for a trophy.
He'll be dead by 45
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very good my friend,,very good
let me add little something here,,
to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)
but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,
in addition jason will not get any bigger than 295 with this kind of condition since he stands at 7%,,he will get down to 275-280 at 4% and step on stage like everytime,,
beside kevin and coupe more who built it up,,,99% of us take it down from 20 to 50lb for a show,,
now thats is more of the truth so...keep it this way
* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years
Strong controversial but true post! :D Madmax, do you really claim Jay is totally off?? LOL Imagine Jay going off totally for several months, it would look like total disaster. You cannot maintain that type of physique with a crashed HPTA, get real.
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HAHA jay is off and at 295 lean, bwahhahahahahaha.
why do people assume fans are fucking morons?
hes on test, gh, slin in that shot. Not to mention a few other anabolics.
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(http://index.hu/cikkepek/0705/velvet/coleman//.gdata/gp_IMG_4754.jpg)
He looks terrible in this pic. Not healthy at all.
Maybe he looks young because of his '90's mini Hi Top Fade! Long live Kid n Play ;D
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Off for pros is test gh and insulin, all natural occuring hormones in the body.
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Jay is looking great at 18 weeks :o :o
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Thanks for not allowing this MadMax guy to try and run bullshit by us.
I agree with Benny.
Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"
The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.
The Beef
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gh might know some things about the bodybuilding scene, but, first year biology might not be his strong suit. I have been in school too long to believe that load of shit and neither should anyone else.
GH15 is a moron. The only greater morons are those who believe he knows jack shit of what he's talking about. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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ronnie 'fat' coleman is no where near this guy..dude just look how super lean jay is looking 18 weeks out :o..ronnie looks like a tub of shit
It doesn't matter what you look like 18 weeks out. jay can look lean 18 weeks out and still not have striated glutes on stage, still have low back wrinkles that even nat level guys don't have, still have delts that have little detail, arms that have such little detail you can not even differentiate between brachialis, becip tricep, hams that are sub par olympia level detail.
Yes, he obviously is a very good bodybuilder, but if not for the littl einjuries Ronnie was bothered by he would not have beaten him and should not have beaten him at the last grand prix show.
Ronnie looks like a freak....so far ahead of any development that could possibly be attained by a person while maintaining that degree of detail and hardness.
By the way, it is not difficult to be 8-10% year round with the hormones used and available today...Many know people that eat whatever they want and maintain that level with gh, igf, etc it's almost impossible to get fat unless you eat junk all day.
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The drugs have very little to do with vascularity...genetics is the reason. Ronnie has had pipe-like veins long before he started with AAS.
Drugs have LOTS to do with vascularity....Look at a guy with ten % fat that uses tren or eq and you will see the difference.....
However, remember that vascularity has nothing to do with judging a contest...... Only in cases where it is severe and can distract or ruin the appearance of a muscle would it ever come into play...
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I agree with Benny.
Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"
The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.
The Beef
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good post. ;D
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I agree with Benny.
Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"
The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.
The Beef
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OMG! You are a complete tool! WOW!
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ronnie really is on a different level from jay. there is a lot of oil in jay. but give him credit for trying
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Why is it accurate? Because Jay has been in great shape all year, that must mean that he nevers comes off and clean his system right? WRONG, he never stops training, he's ALWAYS on his diet or close to it. He's been off for a long time now and when he does start his prep, you will notice because he'll get a whole lot better. I'll ask him if I can take some pics and keep you guys posted and show you the difference, if you guys think that Jay will not show improvements this year, you'll be really surprised.
I hope he does show improvements. I'm sure he will try. But you cannot deny the great aid it is to take 2 months off from training to let yourself heal and recoup body's resources.
Jay is the hardest working man - no doubt about that. It's just my belief that King Ron isn't human and if he comes 100% and the judges overlook his tears... well... Jay had better bring his A game. I'm sure he *can* win it over Ronnie. But this is probably the most motivated Ronnie has been in his lifetime. We're going to see a Ronnie more shredded than he's ever been. Jay eeked out the win last year at a lifetime best (save for maybe 2001). Ronnie was at 80% during Friday's prejudging last year.
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For the sake of our sport I hope Ronnie wins and retires on top. He's a legend and a true warrior in every sense of the word. Think about how the IFBB works and how amazing it would be for the sport if Ron defeats the man who defeated him and regains the title of Mr. Olympia. From a magazine sales perspective you couldn't ask for a better story. Everyone loves a comeback (or so Weider thinks). Arnold 1980 anyone? Jay will come in the best he can and Ronnie will too.....but it won't matter in the end, the outcome has already been decided.
-My two cents.
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but it won't matter in the end, the outcome has already been decided.
-My two cents.
Any other year, i would agree with you.
However, they toppled a champ last year when it was very close. I seeno reason why they wouldn't topple Jay if he tries to match Ronnie's conditioning and flattens out.