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whats going on here.....
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Dillet was awesome from the front.
From the back.....not so much.
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dorian was overrated, that what happened. Dillet's weak points were his back and his posing.
Dorian had a great back, calves and conditioning...but thats it.Dorian shouldn't have won so many O's. Shawn ray,levrone,flex and even dillet should/could've won one or more O's.
Peace
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dillet in that second pic...i dont even know what to say
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Yates getting killed from the front, and no better than the other top guys from the side. No further proof needed that the contests were fixed than seeing several deserving guys including Dillet getting screwed.
Meanwhile even in recent interviews Yates still deluded, actually still believes he was better than them hahaahahahahah
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thick but narrow. He is heavily muscled but with short clavicles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170443;image)
show a rear latspread dorian vs dillet :P
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thick but narrow. He is heavily muscled but with short clavicles.
show a rear latspread dorian vs dillet :P
Short clavicles...right ::) Yates looks like Dillet's kid. ;D
Once again the "let's go with some rear shots" backpeddling. LOL
Dillet clearly dominating Yates as much or more as Yates was from the back. From the sides a draw at best for Yates.
Fixed; those decisions were about as fair as Branch Warren's recent "win".
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dorian was vastly overrated.
from the front he was nothing special esp. compare to his competition. this has been shown time and time again
even pros from the era are now saying what they were prohibited from saying before: that dorian should not have won as many olympias as he did.
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whats going on here.....
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Whats going on here?...the same topic being re-hashed over and over again?
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epic hatred towards the white man.
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whats going on here.....
discuss....
Dillet showing his son Yates the BB ropes..
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thick but narrow. He is heavily muscled but with short clavicles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170443;image)
show a rear latspread dorian vs dillet :P
........hahaha lmao..."He is heavily muscled but with short clavicles"
Dillet is the widest bodybuilder to ever live....his width in some of his old pics still shocks me
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epic hatred towards the white man.
Im quite offended, it borders on racism to suggest that a black man could ever be considered superior to his white master
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Im quite offended, it borders on racism to suggest that a black man could ever be considered superior to his white master
hahahaah get right over to the truce thread son there are a few pasty white guys stuck on Yates as the great white hope who need ya. ;)
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Dillet was nothing but an inflated baloon: roid megadosing and synthol/esilclene....he shriveled down to 160lbs when he came off the sauce LOL
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Dillet was nothing but an inflated baloon: roid megadosing and synthol/esilclene....he shriveled down to 160lbs when he came off the sauce LOL
hahaahahahah ok buddy
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hahahaah get right over to the truce thread son there are a few pasty white guys stuck on Yates as the great white hope who need ya. ;)
and a few .... well lets say "other" (not to offend these sensitive queers) that are stuck on Ronnie as the great black hope. :-*
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Dillet was nothing but an inflated baloon: roid megadosing and synthol/esilclene....he shriveled down to 160lbs when he came off the sauce LOL
your an idiot, Dillet actually sauced less than the average pro bodybuilder. Some people just blow up. Synthol? you should get your facts straight before slandering Dillets name like that. He's probably the most genetically gifted bodybuilder ever.
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and a few .... well lets say "other" (not to offend these sensitive queers) that are stuck on Ronnie as the great black hope. :-*
Look elsewhere some of us are just more objective, especially with 4-5 of the top BBs over the last couple of decades taking turns owning Yates in different shots. :-*
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your an idiot, Dillet actually sauced less than the average pro bodybuilder. Some people just blow up. Synthol? you should get your facts straight before slandering Dillets name like that. He's probably the most genetically gifted bodybuilder ever.
Pithy & concise, especially the first part.
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Look at Levrones "I need glasses" face.....LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170444;image)
Jay Gutler does the same to take attention off his jaw and forehad.
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Look at Levrones "I need glasses" face.....LOL
Yates looks like a Somalian refugee compared to those guys.
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your an idiot, Dillet actually sauced less than the average pro bodybuilder. Some people just blow up. Synthol? you should get your facts straight before slandering Dillets name like that. He's probably the most genetically gifted bodybuilder ever.
Yeah, and pubes also thinks Ronnie uses synthol.
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saying PAUL dILLET IS narrow is just ludicrous
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saying PAUL dILLET IS narrow is just ludicrous
lmao.....couldnt agree more with ya mike ;D.......
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Yeah, and pubes also thinks Ronnie uses synthol.
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whats going on here.....
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WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT...WHY THE HELL DID DORIAN EVEN STEP ON THE STAGE??? HE IS BEING WALKED ALL OVER BY DILLET. DILLET HAD AN AWESOME PHYSIQUE...WIDE AS HELL SHOULDERS, TAPERED WAIST, CRAZY LEGS...HE LACKED A BACK THAT WAS AS DEVELOPED AS THE FRONT, BUT OVER ALL HE WAS AWESOME...HAVE TO ADMIT HE WAS NEVER A GOOD POSER, BUT A MONSTER NONE THE LESS.
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WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT...WHY THE HELL DID DORIAN EVEN STEP ON THE STAGE??? HE IS BEING WALKED ALL OVER BY DILLET. DILLET HAD AN AWESOME PHYSIQUE...WIDE AS HELL SHOULDERS, TAPERED WAIST, CRAZY LEGS...
LOL the truth coming out.
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WHY THE HELL DID DORIAN EVEN STEP ON THE STAGE???
hahahaha
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Dillet did beat Dorian on the front pose but Dorian managed to claw back from the back poses thus he won the show.
There is no way that Dorian should get perfect score from both front and back poses.
That includes Ronnie as well
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i like Dorian but Paul is absloutely destroying him in those shots.
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As I said in the other thread, Paul > Dorian, by far
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Dillet was awesome with his 23" arms and 30" waist, but he had some serious structural as well as muscular flaws. These are the structural flaws:
- Relatively narrow clavicles for his height - they were wider than that of all other bodybuilders, but that's because he has more stature.
- Long limbs - because he's tall.
- High lats
And these are the muscular assymetries that precluded him from becoming a standard-bearer:
- huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso and underdeveloped pectoralis.
- Frontal deltoids that overpowered his other two delt heads and his entire physique from the front.
- Latissimus defective in both width&thickness and that were notoriouisly watery come contest time.
- insufficient muscular thickness for his height, evidenced that he practically disappeared from the sides.
Now, how would these structural and muscular defciencies reflect at a bodybuilding contest?
Dillet's major strengh came at the relaxed round, when his awesome taper gave him an advantage over all the other competitors. The only minus was from the sides, when, although gaining points due to his flat stomach and incredible serratus, Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness. The symmetry round is where he scored most of his points.
The mandatories largely explain Dillet's lack of dominance when it came to the top show in the sport, and why he was only able to win minor pro shows. Let's analyse this:
Front double biceps - As with Coleman, here is where Dillet scored most of his points in the mandatories. His full 23" arms are visible in this pose, as well as his incredible quads, and all of this was complemented by his superb abdominal definition and taper.
Back double biceps - Here dillet took a beating, because the only thing he has going on for him in this pose is biceps peak. His incredible deficiency of muscle mass in his back for a man of his size is only emphasized further by the fact that he he tends to hold water there and, thus, looks puffy at contest time.
Front lat spread - Dillet kind of has strenghs and weaknesses here. His major weakness, obviously, is that in pose that calls for the latissimus to spread, Dillet's lats don't do shit. His strengh, again, is his great taper - which is caused by his incredibly small waist and not by his latissiumus development. In general, though, his lack of muscularity here completely ruins it for him.
Back lat spread - What lat spread?! Dillet looks like he doesen't even have lats!
Abs-and-thighs - Dillet has great abs as well as great quads, so this is one of the mandatories where he has it best. The only minus is that his lats are also visible in this mandatory and, as usual, look punny. However, this pose emphasizes symmetry, something that Dillet has.
Side triceps - dillet's humongous triceps and great vastus lateralis shine in this pose, but he is compromised by the fact that he lacks thickness on his torso. I would say that Dillet has one of the best side triceps in the sport if you ignore that a man who stands 6'1 + should look much thicker from the sides than he does.
Side chest - In a a single word: pathetic. Dillet has incredibly punny chest, the result of doing pectoralis workouts that involve nothing more than cable cross-overs, and his varicose veins don't help him. He has his trademarked quad thickness and nothing more. Wow.
In conclusion: his major shortcomings can be summarized by lack of latissimus width&thickness, which is emphasized by his tendency to hold water on his back, and also by his long limbs. :(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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About time someone set these Nutt-Huggers straight on Dillet massive shortcomings. Great work sucky!
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Dillet did beat Dorian on the front pose but Dorian managed to claw back from the back poses thus he won the show.
The standard excuse that completely neglects the reality that it should have been in Dillet's favor based on front and side. "Clawed back" = uncle Joe LOL
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Dillet was awesome with his 23" arms and 30" waist, but he had some serious structural as well as muscular flaws. These are the structural flaws:
- Relatively narrow clavicles for his height - they were wider than that of all other bodybuilders, but that's because he has more stature.
- Long limbs - because he's tall.
- High lats
And these are the muscular assymetries that precluded him from becoming a standard-bearer:
- huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso and underdeveloped pectoralis.
- Frontal deltoids that overpowered his other two delt heads and his entire physique from the front.
- Latissimus defective in both width&thickness and that were notoriouisly watery come contest time.
- insufficient muscular thickness for his height, evidenced that he practically disappeared from the sides.
Now, how would these structural and muscular defciencies reflect at a bodybuilding contest?
Dillet's major strengh came at the relaxed round, when his awesome taper gave him an advantage over all the other competitors. The only minus was from the sides, when, although gaining points due to his flat stomach and incredible serratus, Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness. The symmetry round is where he scored most of his points.
The mandatories largely explain Dillet's lack of dominance when it came to the top show in the sport, and why he was only able to win minor pro shows. Let's analyse this:
Front double biceps - As with Coleman, here is where Dillet scored most of his points in the mandatories. His full 23" arms are visible in this pose, as well as his incredible quads, and all of this was complemented by his superb abdominal definition and taper.
Back double biceps - Here dillet took a beating, because the only thing he has going on for him in this pose is biceps peak. His incredible deficiency of muscle mass in his back for a man of his size is only emphasized further by the fact that he he tends to hold water there and, thus, looks puffy at contest time.
Front lat spread - Dillet kind of has strenghs and weaknesses here. His major weakness, obviously, is that in pose that calls for the latissimus to spread, Dillet's lats don't do shit. His strengh, again, is his great taper - which is caused by his incredibly small waist and not by his latissiumus development. In general, though, his lack of muscularity here completely ruins it for him.
Back lat spread - What lat spread?! Dillet looks like he doesen't even have lats!
Abs-and-thighs - Dillet has great abs as well as great quads, so this is one of the mandatories where he has it best. The only minus is that his lats are also visible in this mandatory and, as usual, look punny. However, this pose emphasizes symmetry, something that Dillet has.
Side triceps - dillet's humongous triceps and great vastus lateralis shine in this pose, but he is compromised by the fact that he lacks thickness on his torso. I would say that Dillet has one of the best side triceps in the sport if you ignore that a man who stands 6'1 + should look much thicker from the sides than he does.
Side chest - In a a single word: pathetic. Dillet has incredibly punny chest, the result of doing pectoralis workouts that involve nothing more than cable cross-overs, and his varicose veins don't help him. He has his trademarked quad thickness and nothing more. Wow.
In conclusion: his major shortcomings can be summarized by lack of latissimus width&thickness, which is emphasized by his tendency to hold water on his back, and also by his long limbs. :(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Major BS as usual...
SHUT THE FVCK UP YOU TWIT
Hope this helps
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SHUT THE FVCK UP YOU TWIT ;D
Pumpster = Faggola hahahahahahaha
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thick but narrow. He is heavily muscled but with short clavicles.
AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH HAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHaHHAHAH
one of the funniest things i've ever heard on any bodybuilding forum
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Pumpster = Faggola hahahahahahaha
Pubes = SUCKY's boyfriend haahahahahahahahaah
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Dillet was awesome with his 23" arms and 30" waist, but he had some serious structural as well as muscular flaws. These are the structural flaws:
- Relatively narrow clavicles for his height - they were wider than that of all other bodybuilders, but that's because he has more stature.
- Long limbs - because he's tall.
- High lats
And these are the muscular assymetries that precluded him from becoming a standard-bearer:
- huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso and underdeveloped pectoralis.
- Frontal deltoids that overpowered his other two delt heads and his entire physique from the front.
- Latissimus defective in both width&thickness and that were notoriouisly watery come contest time.
- insufficient muscular thickness for his height, evidenced that he practically disappeared from the sides.
Now, how would these structural and muscular defciencies reflect at a bodybuilding contest?
Dillet's major strengh came at the relaxed round, when his awesome taper gave him an advantage over all the other competitors. The only minus was from the sides, when, although gaining points due to his flat stomach and incredible serratus, Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness. The symmetry round is where he scored most of his points.
The mandatories largely explain Dillet's lack of dominance when it came to the top show in the sport, and why he was only able to win minor pro shows. Let's analyse this:
Front double biceps - As with Coleman, here is where Dillet scored most of his points in the mandatories. His full 23" arms are visible in this pose, as well as his incredible quads, and all of this was complemented by his superb abdominal definition and taper.
Back double biceps - Here dillet took a beating, because the only thing he has going on for him in this pose is biceps peak. His incredible deficiency of muscle mass in his back for a man of his size is only emphasized further by the fact that he he tends to hold water there and, thus, looks puffy at contest time.
Front lat spread - Dillet kind of has strenghs and weaknesses here. His major weakness, obviously, is that in pose that calls for the latissimus to spread, Dillet's lats don't do shit. His strengh, again, is his great taper - which is caused by his incredibly small waist and not by his latissiumus development. In general, though, his lack of muscularity here completely ruins it for him.
Back lat spread - What lat spread?! Dillet looks like he doesen't even have lats!
Abs-and-thighs - Dillet has great abs as well as great quads, so this is one of the mandatories where he has it best. The only minus is that his lats are also visible in this mandatory and, as usual, look punny. However, this pose emphasizes symmetry, something that Dillet has.
Side triceps - dillet's humongous triceps and great vastus lateralis shine in this pose, but he is compromised by the fact that he lacks thickness on his torso. I would say that Dillet has one of the best side triceps in the sport if you ignore that a man who stands 6'1 + should look much thicker from the sides than he does.
Side chest - In a a single word: pathetic. Dillet has incredibly punny chest, the result of doing pectoralis workouts that involve nothing more than cable cross-overs, and his varicose veins don't help him. He has his trademarked quad thickness and nothing more. Wow.
In conclusion: his major shortcomings can be summarized by lack of latissimus width&thickness, which is emphasized by his tendency to hold water on his back, and also by his long limbs. :(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
did you seriously write that
meltdown of the century...dude get a life...dillet pwns dorian from the front...end of story
the only goddamn thing Dorian had on Dillet was his back
/thread..no need for 1000+ pages of bullshit
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did you seriously write that
meltdown of the century...dude get a life...dillet pwns dorian from the front...end of story
the only goddamn thing Dorian had on Dillet was his back
/thread..no need for 1000+ pages of bullshit
You left out one small detail..Dillet wasn't white..
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH ROFL HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HAH
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did you seriously write that
meltdown of the century...dude get a life...dillet pwns dorian from the front...end of story
the only goddamn thing Dorian had on Dillet was his back
/thread..no need for 1000+ pages of bullshit
Actually, according to the judges score sheets, Dorian defeated Dillet from the front on everything except the front relaxed round. Yates trounced Dillet at the front lat spread and the abs-and-thighs the two front mandatories, so the judges agree more with my analyses than with your complaining. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dillet was awesome with his 23" arms and 30" waist, but he had some serious structural as well as muscular flaws. These are the structural flaws:
- Relatively narrow clavicles for his height - they were wider than that of all other bodybuilders, but that's because he has more stature.
- Long limbs - because he's tall.
- High lats
And these are the muscular assymetries that precluded him from becoming a standard-bearer:
- huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso and underdeveloped pectoralis.
- Frontal deltoids that overpowered his other two delt heads and his entire physique from the front.
- Latissimus defective in both width&thickness and that were notoriouisly watery come contest time.
- insufficient muscular thickness for his height, evidenced that he practically disappeared from the sides.
Now, how would these structural and muscular defciencies reflect at a bodybuilding contest?
Dillet's major strengh came at the relaxed round, when his awesome taper gave him an advantage over all the other competitors. The only minus was from the sides, when, although gaining points due to his flat stomach and incredible serratus, Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness. The symmetry round is where he scored most of his points.
The mandatories largely explain Dillet's lack of dominance when it came to the top show in the sport, and why he was only able to win minor pro shows. Let's analyse this:
Front double biceps - As with Coleman, here is where Dillet scored most of his points in the mandatories. His full 23" arms are visible in this pose, as well as his incredible quads, and all of this was complemented by his superb abdominal definition and taper.
Back double biceps - Here dillet took a beating, because the only thing he has going on for him in this pose is biceps peak. His incredible deficiency of muscle mass in his back for a man of his size is only emphasized further by the fact that he he tends to hold water there and, thus, looks puffy at contest time.
Front lat spread - Dillet kind of has strenghs and weaknesses here. His major weakness, obviously, is that in pose that calls for the latissimus to spread, Dillet's lats don't do shit. His strengh, again, is his great taper - which is caused by his incredibly small waist and not by his latissiumus development. In general, though, his lack of muscularity here completely ruins it for him.
Back lat spread - What lat spread?! Dillet looks like he doesen't even have lats!
Abs-and-thighs - Dillet has great abs as well as great quads, so this is one of the mandatories where he has it best. The only minus is that his lats are also visible in this mandatory and, as usual, look punny. However, this pose emphasizes symmetry, something that Dillet has.
Side triceps - dillet's humongous triceps and great vastus lateralis shine in this pose, but he is compromised by the fact that he lacks thickness on his torso. I would say that Dillet has one of the best side triceps in the sport if you ignore that a man who stands 6'1 + should look much thicker from the sides than he does.
Side chest - In a a single word: pathetic. Dillet has incredibly punny chest, the result of doing pectoralis workouts that involve nothing more than cable cross-overs, and his varicose veins don't help him. He has his trademarked quad thickness and nothing more. Wow.
In conclusion: his major shortcomings can be summarized by lack of latissimus width&thickness, which is emphasized by his tendency to hold water on his back, and also by his long limbs. :(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lmfao.......i actually thought u were kidding when i was reading ur post.....i was waiting for a punchline.......no joke!......i actually thought u were taking the piss....
"Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
"huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
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lmfao.......i actually thought u were kidding when i was reading ur post.....i was waiting for a punchline.......no joke!......i actually thought u were taking the piss....
"Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
"huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
No, he's not kidding. He actually takes himself & these blithering diatribes seriously LOL
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:-*
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Imagine having those genetics... :o
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No, he's not kidding. He actually takes himself & these blithering diatribes seriously LOL
pumpster.....note dillet's underdeveloped pecs in the closeup pic when hes wearing no.2 tag
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The problem with Dillet ,was ,he couldn't hold a pose for more than 2 seconds .
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pumpster.....note dillet's underdeveloped pecs in the closeup pic when hes wearing no.2 tag
Can hardly see em ;D
The problem with Dillet ,was ,he couldn't hold a pose for more than 2 seconds
Inexusable; how hard would it have been to get someone's help..even so, it and the back weren't the biggest factors, it was suspect contest decisions just like the recent NY Pro.
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i remember seeing Paul Dillett at a convention when I was younger and the guy looked like an alien. I couldn't believe a human could get that big. the thing about Dillett that many other mass monsters could not duplicate is having a small waist. Lee Priest and a younger Ronnie are the only 2 other mass monsters who had small waist. Well we all know what happened to ROnnie.
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I believe Dillet jumped to the wbf and back to the ifbb he was not going to win any contest.
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go figure...a bunch of front shots....too bad there are amatuers with a better backside than Dillet had...not to mention the synthol abuse in the delts :-\
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wheeler,cormier,levrone,freeman,munzer,strydom, never had guts either .....theres quite a few
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go figure...a bunch of front shots....too bad there are amatuers with a better backside than Dillet had...not to mention the synthol abuse in the delts :-\
his bak is not all that bad....i would say it is his weakest point, but not as bad as people make out
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go figure...a bunch of front shots....
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a 6 time Mr. O is supposed to look good from the front too. ::)
epic admission of dorian's overratedness.
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a 6 time Mr. O is supposed to look good from the front too. ::)
epic admission of dorian's overratedness.
Dorian looked great from the front. You are just fixed wrongly on the most-muscular thinking it's the only front pose.
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i think paul had the muscle on his back.....its just that he couldnt spread the lats as wide as they would go......ive seen shots of him hitting a rear lat spread...and hes squeezing/contracting his traps which relaxes and sucks in the lats making them look narrow.....the thing about pictures as we all know is....u cant really tell if the guy is about to hit the pose or already has hit the pose and is now coming out of the pose especially with paul..........his traps and trap thickness was defo right up there with the best of them......
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lmfao.......i actually thought u were kidding when i was reading ur post.....i was waiting for a punchline.......no joke!......i actually thought u were taking the piss....
"Dillet was marked down for his general lack of muscle thickness" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
"huge quads and arms that were too big for his small torso" - SUCKMYMUSCLE
What exactly is wrong wityh my post? Dillet was marked down for being thin from the sides in the symmetry round, and it is wildly acknowledged that he has one of the worst side chest ever due to his lack of pectoralis thickness. And yes, his quads and arms were way too big for his torso, which was small from a structural standpoint which was enhanced by his lacck of pectoral width&thickness. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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dont look thin to me.....they are clearly thicker than dorians.....
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go figure...a bunch of front shots....too bad there are amatuers with a better backside than Dillet had...not to mention the synthol abuse in the delts :-\
That's an amateur assessment that no one else seem to agree with. You're all alone with boyfriend SUCKY. ;D
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his bak is not all that bad....i would say it is his weakest point, but not as bad as people make out
Agreed, and it's about the only flaw. Back is used as the excuse all the time when in fact all the other BBs he competed against had as many or more flaws as well.
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Dorian looked great from the front. You are just fixed wrongly on the most-muscular thinking it's the only front pose.
Great? haahahahahahah you are a dreamer.
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Great? haahahahahahah you are a dreamer.
Yes, great. At least greater than Dillet. Try these, Pumpy! ;) Part I
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Part II ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Agreed, and it's about the only flaw. Back is used as the excuse all the time when in fact all the other BBs he competed against had as many or more flaws as well.
i agree.....probably dillets only flaw.....along with posing ability.....if paul could pose then he'd be able to spread his lats wide and the flaw would be no more.....he still wouldny have the best bak but at least people wouldnt go overboard saying his bak is terrible etc.......
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Yes, great. At least greater than Dillet. Try these, Pumpy! ;) Part I
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You should try paying attention to the fact you're completely alone in your delusions LOL I'm including you and pubes as a couple. :-*
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Part III
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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MELTDOWN
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pumpy being owned again hahahahahahahahaha
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if I recall victor richards was sizing down dorian and dillet at the fibo or some expo that year, anyone hve the pics.
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Part IV. All front shots. Hey, Pumpy, you said that Dillet looks better than Dorian from the front, and I'm proving you wrong. In reality, Dillet only looked better from the front than Dorian in one pose: the front relaxed round. Dorian destroyed your boy in all the front mandatories. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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No living human being has ever been this dehydrated...holy shit :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170639;image)
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Part V. Hey, Pumpy, I'm still aiting for those front shots where Dillet owns Dorian in the abs-and-thighs, front lat spread and front double biceps. You know, winning the front relaxed round and nothing more hardly qualifies Dillet as being better from the front than Dorian. You can't be better than your rival from the front if he defeats you in two out of the three front mandatory poses. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Part V. Hey, Pumpy, I'm still aiting for those front shots where Dillet owns Dorian in the abs-and-thighs, front lat spread and front double biceps. You know, winning the front relaxed round and nothing more hardly qualifies Dillet as being better from the front than Dorian. You can't be better than your rival from the front if he defeats you in two out of the three front mandatory poses. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Remember, you're all alone with your boyfriend pubes on this thread in your delusions. hahahahahahahahahah
Overwhelming sentiment:
Dillet >>>> Yates except for contest politics bullshit
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someon post the pic of vic richards sizing down dorian and dillet like lil girlymen
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Remember, you're all alone with your boyfriend pubes on this thread in your delusions. hahahahahahahahahah
Overwhelming sentiment:
Dillet >>>> Yates except for contest politics bullshit
Right, that's why he routinely lost to bodybuilders half his size, LOL.
He couldn't even win contests when Yates was over 3000 miles away.
Remember, Dillet only won 1 pro show hahahahaha
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Clanky/132_2.jpg)
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There is no contest...
dorian had a better nack..
paul seriosuly owned him EVERYWHERE ELSE..
if my olympia want jusdged so much on back dorian would barely make top 10...
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ask 100 people who looked better .. who had the better phsysique 90% would say dillet....
poor chest shoulder abs... and worst the arms...
suck would u honestly prefer to have a phsique like dillets or dorians...
which comic book character do u see with a phsique like dorians??
and how many look like dillets..
not many people would choose to have dorians phsique over pauls...
what u have to turn ur back to show the one oustanding body part.. everother bodypart on dillet is outstanding
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Dillet >>>> Yates except for contest politics bullshit
except:
and overall conditioning
presentation
from the back
from the sides
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Right, that's why he routinely lost to bodybuilders half his size, LOL.
He couldn't even win contests when Yates was over 3000 miles away.
Remember, Dillet only won 1 pro show hahahahaha
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Clanky/132_2.jpg)
U R alone with your cronies, clueless..LOL
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U R alone with your cronies, clueless..LOL
Dillet: the natural born loser hahahahahah
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Actually, that was the year that the diuretic testing was implemented ('96). Nasser failed it.
Dorian didn't care becuase he didn't use diuretics. As anyone who saw him train at Bev Francis' gym can tell you, Dorian was in contest shape 3 weeks out when he came across the pond. From there all he did was manipulate his water levels. Compare this to other competitors who would be frantically using diuretics and "voodoo" methods as Dorian put it to get dry, and you can see why they never matched Dorian.
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There is no contest...
dorian had a better nack..
paul seriosuly owned him EVERYWHERE ELSE..
if my olympia want jusdged so much on back dorian would barely make top 10...
..
ask 100 people who looked better .. who had the better phsysique 90% would say dillet....
poor chest shoulder abs... and worst the arms...
suck would u honestly prefer to have a phsique like dillets or dorians...
which comic book character do u see with a phsique like dorians??
and how many look like dillets..
not many people would choose to have dorians phsique over pauls...
what u have to turn ur back to show the one oustanding body part.. everother bodypart on dillet is outstanding
not everyone
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy105.jpg)
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not everyone
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy105.jpg)
i always thought Dorian looked incredible in that shot.
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Other than that waist he looks good, although that waist by todays standards is streamline lol.
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;)
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Dillet was a genetic freak and in many ways better than Dorian..
But Dorian was a better bodybuilder. He trained hard, came in with awesome conditioning. I hear Dillet was lazy, weak and couldn't pose.
If you're gonna talk about who'd you rather look like or who had better genes, then Dillet is the run away choice. But there's just no debating who the better bodybuilder was.
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Losers will always try to pose the off season pics of Dorian and put him down..
They knew that when Dorian was on, he destroys everyone
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Losers will always try to pose the off season pics of Dorian and put him down..
They knew that when Dorian was on, he destroys everyone
Actually it's the "loser" Yates groupies who continue to use his off-season shots for various reasons LOL
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Actually it's the "loser" Yates groupies who continue to use his off-season shots for various reasons LOL
LOL.. I wonder why?
Maybe because Dorian rejected them for various reasons? ::)
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LOL.. I wonder why?
Maybe because Dorian rejected them for various reasons? ::)
Off-season when he was beefier the arms weren't as small.
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;)
paul looks very sloppy in that pic.
most of his attributes arent even showing in that pic, other than just being big.
yates is huge and extremely hard.
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Dillet >>>> Yates except for contest politics bullshit
totally inaccurate and here's why.
if you're going to site politcs for yates, than you'll also have to include every other top bber in the 90's.
its not like paul was ever 2nd to dorian.
although, paul was in the top of every show he entered, he was never a thread to win the whole thing.
hence, him winning ONLY 2 shows in his career.
he was never in good enough shape, his back sucked, and his posing was pathetic - he couldnt even show how freaky he was.
nasser's back was just as bad, but he was always in better shape than paul, and he could pose - so he won more shows than paul.
so, it really has nothing do with JUST dorian and politcs, but rather paul's own failings.
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Dorian looked great in 93, that was his best year. Id give him the edge THAT year to Paul. But every other year, Paul destroys him. Dorian's only saving grace that year was that freaky dry conditioning he had. The last few years of Dorians career were his worst, and they were gifted olympia wins no doubt about it.
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Pumpy posts an offseason shot of Dillet where he's 300+ lbs and compares to a 257 lbs Dorian, and that is supposed to prove what? Pumpy, you still haven't answered me how can Dillet defeat Dorian from the front if Dorian defeated Dillet in all three front mandatory poses. According to the judges, it wasn't even close! Here are pics of Dorian executing the three front mandatories where he destoys your boy Dillet. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dorian looked great in 93, that was his best year. Id give him the edge THAT year to Paul. But every other year, Paul destroys him. Dorian's only saving grace that year was that freaky dry conditioning he had. The last few years of Dorians career were his worst, and they were gifted olympia wins no doubt about it.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170958;image)
Shawn's back looked bigger than Dorian but still got crushed
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No living human being has ever been this dehydrated...holy shit :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170639;image)
This is one of the greatest bodybuilding photos ever.
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Dorian looked awefull onstage, he couldn't pose to save his life
props to the photographer who were able to take those pictures with the 1 or 2 second he was actually hitting the pose !
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Right, that's why he routinely lost to bodybuilders half his size, LOL.
He couldn't even win contests when Yates was over 3000 miles away.
Remember, Dillet only won 1 pro show hahahahaha
(http://www.ronnie.cz/_img/Clanky/132_2.jpg)
don't really want to get involved but Paul won more than 1 show, he won 2 grand prix shows in 94 and the NOC......I think that's it.
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Dorian looked awefull onstage, he couldn't pose to save his life
props to the photographer who were able to take those pictures with the 1 or 2 second he was actually hitting the pose !
dorians main strength was his ability to show his physique off to the full,,,, he hit every manditory 100%, he was no swan lake but what he did was very effective....ive got no idea where u came to that conclusion!
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There is no contest...
dorian had a better nack..
paul seriosuly owned him EVERYWHERE ELSE..
if my olympia want jusdged so much on back dorian would barely make top 10...
agreed.
and what is really sad, is that same thing applies to a lot of top guys dorian competed against:
:-[
the judging was really not great.. :-\
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agreed.
and what is really sad, is that same thing applies to a lot of top guys dorian competed against:
:-[
the judging was really not great.. :-\
the list of excuses goes on and on.......
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why is it an excuse?
the pics validate that the judging sucked. there is no excuse. it is fact that is obvious to all of us except you, pubes and suckmyasshole.
apparently, many on getbig agree with us.
look at the comments on this thread, and the topic in the first place. lol
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why is it an excuse?
the pics validate that the judging sucked. there is no excuse. it is fact that is obvious to all of us except you, pubes and suckmyasshole.
apparently, many on getbig agree with us.
look at the comments on this thread, and the topic in the first place. lol
its really based on just 1 pose.
1 pose.
watch a video and then you'll see why yates won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teq_cqDOJ_s&mode=related&search=/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teq_cqDOJ_s&mode=related&search=/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg7hAPdnl8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg7hAPdnl8s)
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Those Gary Phillips' pictures at the start of the thread look photoshopped; nobody in them looks like they're even there, like they've been pasted on top.
Either way, does it matter? Yates is a six-time Mr O. Dillet is 'famous' for freezing on stage. That's it.
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its really based on just 1 pose.
1 pose.
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yes, a pose that shows the arms, delts chest quads...pretty much the whole front side of the body..
but its just one pose.. ::)
and besides, its not one pose. Dorian was owned from the front in many other poses besides the most muscular..
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Dillet showing his son Yates the BB ropes..
He looks like Frankenstein :o
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agreed.
and what is really sad, is that same thing applies to a lot of top guys dorian competed against:
:-[
the judging was really not great.. :-\
Levrone smoking everone in this shot...
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Levrone smoking everone in this shot...
There are a few guys that in fair shows would've kicked his ass. ;D
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Is anyone else getting sick of Pumpster regurgitation of the same slanted pictures over and over again :-\
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Damn Dorian looks incredible in that shot. I thought '94 was his worst year? Was that taken before the bicep tear?
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Damn Dorian looks incredible in that shot. I thought '94 was his worst year? Was that taken before the bicep tear?
it was his worst year. at the GP show, he has almost no visible cuts or definition in his arms or entire lower body, from the front or the back.
he had good abs at the GP show, and thats it. and of course, the tear..
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it was his worst year. at the GP show, he has almost no visible cuts or definition in his arms or entire lower body, from the front or the back.
he had good abs at the GP show, and thats it. and of course, the tear..
I'm sorry but now you're just making things up. No "visible cuts or definition"? You may want to get your eyes checked.
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I'm sorry but now you're just making things up. No "visible cuts or definition"? You may want to get your eyes checked.
tell me where you see any definition on his arms, quads, glutes or hams:
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even his back has nowhere near the detail it normally did.
there is some detail in his delts, and his chest and abs are cut.
but nowhere else. not having cut quads or arms is a pretty major flaw.
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I'm not sure what you are smoking hulkster, but Dorian looks outstanding in those shots.
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Damn Dorian looks incredible in that shot. I thought '94 was his worst year? Was that taken before the bicep tear?
Dorian wasn't at his personal best in 94, but he was still more than good enough to win. Nobody has even come close to this from the rear, Coleman looks like a mismatched lego set in comparison.
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I am a fan of both Ronnie and Dorian, but I will agree that Dorian's back has more balance than Ronnie's and looks better. Everything else other than conditoning, forearms, and calves go to Ronnie of yesteryear.
Neither have a good chest and their negatives in that department weigh the same so it's a tie there.
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coleman is my fav bb...
but not because he is my fav bber.. means i will sit here and say he has a great midsection.... or calves.. or will i say he was more ballanced than shawn... or flex...
dorian yates has a terrible build....
0 balance...
and whats more only 1 great bodypart...
...
which was his back its simple arithmetic..
1 great body part...
vs someone with 6...
i dont care if they gave dorian yates 15 sandows... in 90% of the pics posted ted on this thread he is gettin owned....
he olnly looks good from the back?
front double bi.. ssucks...
most muscular crap
front lat spread thas ok,... once again due to his..... (wait for it)....... back...
dide tri.. only good in the famous black and white shot.. good nontheless..
when he turns around to the back the great.. his back is great...
...
he may as well just walked backward out on the stage....
.. its simple if the mr o wasnt juded on the back....
noone would be talking about yates right now....
if it was judged FAIRLY.. taking all bodyparts... arms chest delts abs.. etc...
would yates have one even one sandow???
(thats is a rhetorical question by the way)
::)
:-X
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coleman is my fav bb...
but not because he is my fav bber.. means i will sit here and say he has a great midsection.... or calves.. or will i say he was more ballanced than shawn... or flex...
dorian yates has a terrible build....
0 balance...
and whats more only 1 great bodypart...
...
which was his back its simple arithmetic..
1 great body part...
vs someone with 6...
i dont care if they gave dorian yates 15 sandows... in 90% of the pics posted ted on this thread he is gettin owned....he olnly looks good from the back?
front double bi.. ssucks...
most muscular crap
front lat spread thas ok,... once again due to his..... (wait for it)....... back...
dide tri.. only good in the famous black and white shot.. good nontheless..
when he turns around to the back the great.. his back is great...
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he may as well just walked backward out on the stage....
.. its simple if the mr o wasnt juded on the back....
noone would be talking about yates right now....
if it was judged FAIRLY.. taking all bodyparts... arms chest delts abs.. etc...
would yates have one even one sandow???(thats is a rhetorical question by the way)
::)
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read it carefully nuthuggers hahahaha
excellent post! agree totally. apprently so does most of getbig except for one or two morons :P
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I'm not sure what you are smoking hulkster, but Dorian looks outstanding in those shots.
Then again pubes thinks Warren Branch looks outstanding too. ::)
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coleman is my fav bb...
but not because he is my fav bber.. means i will sit here and say he has a great midsection.... or calves.. or will i say he was more ballanced than shawn... or flex...
dorian yates has a terrible build....
0 balance...
and whats more only 1 great bodypart...
...
which was his back its simple arithmetic..
1 great body part...
vs someone with 6...
i dont care if they gave dorian yates 15 sandows... in 90% of the pics posted ted on this thread he is gettin owned....
he olnly looks good from the back?
front double bi.. ssucks...
most muscular crap
front lat spread thas ok,... once again due to his..... (wait for it)....... back...
dide tri.. only good in the famous black and white shot.. good nontheless..
when he turns around to the back the great.. his back is great...
...
he may as well just walked backward out on the stage....
.. its simple if the mr o wasnt juded on the back....
noone would be talking about yates right now....
if it was judged FAIRLY.. taking all bodyparts... arms chest delts abs.. etc...
would yates have one even one sandow???
(thats is a rhetorical question by the way)
::)
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Agreed, Yates had only one great area, back. I'm not going to make some idiotic pubes commment to the effect that the back didn't stack up to Coleman's, i've always said it was comparable in different ways.
It's the rest of Yates that was a mess. ;)
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read it carefully nuthuggers hahahaha
excellent post! agree totally. apprently so does most of getbig except for one or two morons :P
1 person agrees with you, meso, and you think its everyone.
notice the # of people saying how retarted you are for your comments.
hammer, local hero, zugzwang, camel jockey, phyyxsius, etc.
look at the # of people who owned you.
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Agreed, Yates had only one great area, back. I'm not going to make some idiotic pubes commment to the effect that the back didn't stack up to Coleman's, i've always said it was comparable in different ways.
It's the rest of Yates that was a mess. ;)
wrong as usual
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy187.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy105.jpg)
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/71/Dorianyates.jpg)
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It will be years before true appreciation of Ronnie Coleman will ever be realized..
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Yates looks beefy but good here-until in over his head against someone much better..
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No living human being has ever been this dehydrated...holy shit :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170639;image)
Great shot.
As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian. ::)
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It will be years before true appreciation of Ronnie Coleman will ever be realized..
who doesnt appreciate coleman?
he's an 8 time olympia winner.
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Great shot.
As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian. ::)
hulkster, can you read?????
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dillet couldnt stand still let alone pose,,, only balck man born with no rythm.... dorian was the man in the early 90's.. levrone, nasser and flex were very close tho... dillet wasnt even close to the aformentioned group above.. as much as u all slate dorian, he was domminent in one of the strongest peroids of competitive bodybuilding, youl never get olympia line ups like that again!
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Great shot.
As for this thread, people should go watch a video of Dillet trying to pose and you will see why he never beat Dorian. ::)
dillet was initially more impressive than dorian meaning when they are just standing in the relaxed pose he kills him....well Paul really kills almost everyone in the front relaxed pose but paul really did a shitty job on his manditories for the most part, only one where he looked fantastic in was ab and thigh, another guy who just never learned how to pose. I'm NOT saying he was better or worse than Dorian what I'm saying is Dorian had all of his ducks in a row so to speak and paul didn't, even hurt dorian looked good in alot of manditories and knew how to present himself waaaaay better than paul.
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1 person agrees with you, meso, and you think its everyone.
notice the # of people saying how retarted you are for your comments.
hammer, local hero, zugzwang, camel jockey, phyyxsius, etc.
look at the # of people who owned you.
mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....
question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion
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mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....
question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion
that's fine if you have your opinion.
paul had great arms, delts, and legs.
but his total package was the problem.
its not a contest of individual bodyparts, but the overall package.
if someone is not in shape and cant pose.....
by the yay, paul was 6'1 and competed at 275, yates was 2 inches shorter and was 260.
like i said before, it's not just paul vs. dorian - it be different if paul got 2nd to dorian.
but EVERYONE beat paul.
what does that tell you?
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that's fine if you have your opinion.
paul had great arms, delts, and legs.
but his total package was the problem.
its not a contest of individual bodyparts, but the overall package.
if someone is not in shape and cant pose.....
by the yay, paul was 6'1 and competed at 275, yates was 2 inches shorter and was 260.
like i said before, it's not just paul vs. dorian - it be different if paul got 2nd to dorian.
but EVERYONE beat paul.
what does that tell you?
Take a hint: the number of desperate posts & excuses changes nothing-Yates dominated.. ;D ;D ;D
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mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....
question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
..
if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion
my opinion
yates better triceps (cue side chest pose), back, calves, chest (paul just had those veins), conditioning, and balance - paul could not pose and his back was totally out of proportion - in ever shot. dorian's arms look totally in proportion in some shots. that's the difference.
you listed 10 things, i give 6 to dorian.
again just opinions.
but, look at the number of contests dorian won and the # of contests paul lost.
most of the shows paul lost dorian did not even compete it.
i will post a quote from paul himself stating that yates in 95 was the best thing he's seen on a bodybuilding stage.
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Take a hint: the number of desperate posts & excuses changes nothing-Yates dominated.. ;D ;D ;D
you post the dumbest replies.
shawn is doing a side chest shot, paul is showing his midsection, and yates isnt even posing or facing the camera.
nice job.
::)
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Dillet was nothing but an inflated baloon: roid megadosing and synthol/esilclene....he shriveled down to 160lbs when he came off the sauce LOL
As opposed to the rest of the guys, who were natty.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=150581.0;attach=168330;image)
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As opposed to the rest of the guys, who were natty.
hahahahaahah massive pubes fantasy #358.
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you post the dumbest replies.
shawn is doing a side chest shot, paul is showing his midsection, and yates isnt even posing or facing the camera.
nice job.
::)
Ya, Yates looks great there doesn't he? hahaahahh notice how ice just happens to leave out that Yates' pot is sticking out and he looks like shit i wonder why? ;D
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Ya, Yates looks great there doesn't he? hahaahahh notice how ice just happens to leave out that Yates' pot is sticking out and he looks like shit i wonder why? ;D
so i guess you still havent noticed yates isnt flexing?
extremely pathetic that you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post worthless shit like that.
at least have a bber flex when trying to make a point.
why not take a picture of dorian while sleeping and say the samething.
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so i guess you still havent noticed yates isnt flexing?
extremely pathetic that you expect anyone to take you seriously when you post worthless shit like that.
at least have a bber flex when trying to make a point.
why not take a picture of dorian while sleeping and say the samething.
And here? Same conclusion genius.
Notice also that Dillet's "weak back" includes lats that were far wider & better taper to go with arms that make Yates' look like sticks. The only problem with Dillet's back was detail, not width or taper where he's beating Yates easily.
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wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...
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wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...
true, but no one matched dorian's size AND conditioning.
that's why he won.
sure, lots of guys have better bodyparts and looked better in some poses.
but once every angle, every pose, etc. matched with dorian's unmatched density and conditioning, that's why he won.
there used to be a posedown clip on youtube from 95 and his density and conditioning were clearly apparent, much more so than pictures.
at first, i only saw dorian on film, and that's what i remember - not the pictures.
its been noted by some writers that some guys look better on film than pictures and vice versa.
dorian was unique in that his strengths were unusual and his weaknesses were the strengths of guys in the past - big biceps etc.
for instance, you find a better bber from head to toe in the side tricep pose - every bodypart included - even compared to other guys who delts, chest, etc. look better in other poses.
this pic is a perfect example.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=171222;image)
paul and kevin may have some individual parts that are better, but overall yates is better - he has more density and condition. for some reason, the judges found that to be an unbeatable combo.
also, if guys like paul, kevin, etc. who were fairly equal in size to dorian, would have had to come in much smaller to match dorian's conditioning.
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you call this "size and conditioning"? ::)
not on this planet.
maybe on Mars.
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wsup ice cold...
i agree bodybuilding isnt about individual parts... but a combination of parts
...which is why i think yates should never have beaten shawn flex kevin or paul...
the whole yates reign was based on one bodypart...
i cant think of a top 10 bber in that era who didnt have a better overall better build than dorian
what a lot of people fail to understand is... its not all about bodyweight.. its how much you look like u weigh..
what if u didnt know how much dorian weighed...or paul weighed.. how do the look like the wigh that is key...
look at wheeler.. 230.... 220 and his arms DWARVED dorians....its all about muscle insertons and shape... not oh i weigh 300 anybody can say i weigh this or that bbers lie about it all the time...
its all about how u carry the weight...
and dorians 260 or whatever look like crap compared to flex's 230
did dorian have better arms than
kevin shawn priest dillet.. no
did he have a better chest? no
better abs? no
better delts? no
better back yes...
exactly. the nuthuggers will never get it.
How they look is key:
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even chris 99 looked owned dorian from the front lol
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exactly. the nuthuggers will never get it.
How they look is key:
when will you understand that what you interpret is not true and only your opinion?
if ronnie was so great, he wouldnt have been dorian's bitch for 7 years.
yates turned pro and immediately dominated.
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you call this "size and conditioning"? ::)
not on this planet.
maybe on Mars.
are you dumb, blind, or both?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=170639;image)
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why is it that whatever show yates competed in, he always got the loudest ovation from the crowd?
let's see what's more credible:
a bunch of dumbass comparing pics vs. people in attendance?
thread over.
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mmm wsup ice cold...
listen i dont really care how many people agree with me
i have my own eyes....
question for you
answer honestly
who wins on the below bodyparts dorian or paul
bi's
tris
delts?
back?
chest?
hams?
quads?
conditioning?
size?
balance
.. if dorian... name comes up more than pauls... then he is better...
and vica versa...
thats how i think... i dont care if everyone in the free world says one thing..
i use my own eyes and come up with my own conclusions...based on my judgements...
any my eyes tell me on that list.. paul name would apper more times than dorian...
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if it was just the one bodypart back we wrere judging both phsyiques on.. then dorian wins..
any other bodypart... he loses..
just my opinion
You are making the mistake of assuming that muscles are visible in their entirety from all angles. Going by you logic, then Jean-Pierre Fux should ghave defeated Dorian way back in the 1990s, since he had a bigger triceps, biceps, delts, quads and an equivalent back, and Shawn should have defeated Dorian since he has a smaller waist which gives him better taper.
In reality, bodybuilding contests are judged by comparing physiques from different angles and poses. As an example, Dillet has a bigger triceps than Dorian, but Dorian wins the side triceps shot because his lateral triceps head is bigger and he has better calves than Dillet in this pose. Likewise, Dillet has bigger delts, but this is concelaed from the front and, from the sides, Yates wins both the side relaxed round as well as both side mandatories as far as delts go because he has more symmetrically develeped delts, with the three heads being equally developed, when contrasted to Dillet who's front delts heads overpower his other two. Jean-Pierre Fux also had size advantage over Dorian in all those muscles, but Dorian defeated him because he had a flatter stomach and better abs than Fux, giving him a symmetrical advantage from most angles and poses, and he coupled that with better hardness.
Dillet's smaller waist only represented and advantage to him in the front relaxed round, because Dorian's taper in the two front mandatories was better than Dillet's due to his wider lats, from the sides Dorian's stomach was flat and from the back Dorian's tpaer was actually better than Dillet's due to his much wider lats. In reality, Dillet only won the front relaxed round against Dorian due to his better taper with equivalent abs and the front double biceps due to the fact that, here, his advantage in arms mass was visible. In the side and back relaxed round, as well as two out of the three front mandatories and all other side and back mandatories, Dorian simply destroyed Dillet. Not even in the same ball park! ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You are making the mistake of assuming that muscles are visible in their entirety from all angles. Going by you logic, then Jean-Pierre Fux should ghave defeated Dorian way back in the 1990s, since he had a bigger triceps, biceps, delts, quads and an equivalent back, and Shawn should have defeated Dorian since he has a smaller waist which gives him better taper.
In reality, bodybuilding contests are judged by comparing physiques from different angles and poses. As an example, Dillet has a bigger triceps than Dorian, but Dorian wins the side triceps shot because his lateral triceps head is bigger and he has better calves than Dillet in this pose. Likewise, Dillet has bigger delts, but this is concelaed from the front and, from the sides, Yates wins both the side relaxed round as well as both side mandatories as far as delts go because he has more symmetrically develeped delts, with the three heads being equally developed, when contrasted to Dillet who's front delts heads overpower his other two. Jean-Pierre Fux also had size advantage over Dorian in all those muscles, but Dorian defeated him because he had a flatter stomach and better abs than Fux, giving him a symmetrical advantage from most angles and poses, and he coupled that with better hardness.
Dillet's smaller waist only represented and advantage to him in the front relaxed round, because Dorian's taper in the two front mandatories was better than Dillet's due to his wider lats, and from
More revisionist babbling. Pics are far more efficient than one of our internet diahhrea trolls.
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You are making the mistake of assuming that muscles are visible in their entirety from all angles. Going by you logic, then Jean-Pierre Fux should ghave defeated Dorian way back in the 1990s, since he had a bigger triceps, biceps, delts, quads and an equivalent back, and Shawn should have defeated Dorian since he has a smaller waist which gives him better taper.
In reality, bodybuilding contests are judged by comparing physiques from different angles and poses. As an example, Dillet has a bigger triceps than Dorian, but Dorian wins the side triceps shot because his lateral triceps head is bigger and he has better calves than Dillet in this pose. Likewise, Dillet has bigger delts, but this is concelaed from the front and, from the sides, Yates wins both the side relaxed round as well as both side mandatories as far as delts go because he has more symmetrically develeped delts, with the three heads being equally developed, when contrasted to Dillet who's front delts heads overpower his other two. Jean-Pierre Fux also had size advantage over Dorian in all those muscles, but Dorian defeated him because he had a flatter stomach and better abs than Fux, giving him a symmetrical advantage from most angles and poses, and he coupled that with better hardness.
Dillet's smaller waist only represented and advantage to him in the front relaxed round, because Dorian's taper in the two front mandatories was better than Dillet's due to his wider lats, from the sides Dorian's stomach was flat and from the back Dorian's tpaer was actually better than Dillet's due to his much wider lats. In reality, Dillet only won the front relaxed round against Dorian due to his better taper with equivalent abs and the front double biceps due to the fact that, here, his advantage in arms mass was visible. In the side and back relaxed round, as well as two out of the three front mandatories and all other side and back mandatories, Dorian simply destroyed Dillet. Not even in the same ball park! ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Actually Dorian killed Dillet in the front relaxed due to far superior condition, balance, and midsection definition ;)
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More revisionist babbling. Pics are far more efficient than one of our internet diahhrea trolls.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...the really sad thing is that, according to the official I.F.B.B judging score cards, it wasn't even close! Dorian defeated your boy not only in the back poses and the back relaxed round, but also in the three front mandatories as well - even though I personally think that Dillet should have won the front double biceps! Dorian raped your boy both in the symmetry round by winning two of the three angles and in all the six mandatories! He defeated Paul with straight-firsts scores! And the really sad thing is that you can't use the excuse that he wasn't in his prime, which you guys use for Coleman, because Dorian defeated Dillet with straight-firsts scores against a prime Dillet! Suck on that, Pumpy! ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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you get 'em sucky!
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Actually Dorian killed Dillet in the front relaxed due to far superior condition, balance, and midsection definition ;)
I don't think so. Dillet did have an advantage on Dorian in the front relaxed round due to his thinner obliques and wider clavicles. In fact, the judges gave Dillet the front relxed round over Dorian even at the 1995 Olympia, when Dorian peaked. Regardless, the front double biceps and front relaxed round are the only things that Dillet has on Dorian due to his greater overral arm mass and beter taper, respectively. On the other two angles of the symmetry round as well as the other five mandatories, Dorian simply kills Dillet. It isn't even close. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I don't think so. Dillet did have an advantage on Dorian in the front relaxed round due to his thinner obliques and wider clavicles. In fact, the judges gave Dillet the front relxed round over Dorian even at the 1995 Olympia, when Dorian peaked. Regardless, the front double biceps and front relaxed round are the only things that Dillet has on Dorian due to his greater overral arm mass and beter taper, respectively. On the other two angles of the symmetry round as well as the other five mandatories, Dorian simply kills Dillet. It isn't even close. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Look at this picture and tell me Dillet is better LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=171525;image)
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why is it that whatever show yates competed in, he always got the loudest ovation from the crowd?
let's see what's more credible:
a bunch of dumbass comparing pics vs. people in attendance?
thread over.
so, you can't counter the countless shots of dorian looking like garbage so you instead attack the 'credibility' of all of us instead of attacking the whole problem in the first place: that dorian looked like garbage post tear?
::)
here we go again: why don't you face the reality of the pics instead of saying we are all idiots? ::)
deal with the shots and explain them.
you can't.
you have to instead attack the 'credibility' of all of us rather than doing what you should be doing:
admitting that post tear dorian looked horrible and was still given perfect scores.. :-\
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You are making the mistake of assuming that muscles are visible in their entirety from all angles. Going by you logic, then Jean-Pierre Fux should ghave defeated Dorian way back in the 1990s, since he had a bigger triceps, biceps, delts, quads and an equivalent back, and Shawn should have defeated Dorian since he has a smaller waist which gives him better taper.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
in a nutshell but and i personally dont think piere should have defeated yates.. because his physique is even more sloppy than yates...
basically the guy with the greater amound of outstanding bodyparts....should win...
a la coleman insane arms
insane delts
insane legs
riduculous back....
and good balance
dorian only had a great back....
one qeustion.... and i would like yoy..(suckmymuscle.. and probecito...and ice)
to answer... yes or no.... no thing but a yes or no
the bodybuilder with the greater amount of outstanding bodyparts is superior?
the bodybuilder with the lesser amount of oustanding bodyparts is superior?
a simple yes or no to both questions
ONE WORD
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whats going on here.....
discuss....
dorian hands down.
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basically the guy with the greater amound of outstanding bodyparts....should win...
a la coleman insane arms
insane delts
insane legs
riduculous back....
and good balance
dorian only had a great back....
exactly. the nuthuggers cant seem to understand that dorian not only had a bunch of crappy bodyparts, he was put togther like a FRIDGE. wide blocky waist, and no aesthetics to speak of:
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exactly. the nuthuggers cant seem to understand that dorian not only had a bunch of crappy bodyparts, he was put togther like a FRIDGE. wide blocky waist, and no aesthetics to speak of:
No, now you are mixing him with Jay.
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Is having a bloated waist is better than blocky waist?
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in a nutshell but and i personally dont think piere should have defeated yates.. because his physique is even more sloppy than yates...
basically the guy with the greater amound of outstanding bodyparts....should win...
a la coleman insane arms
insane delts
insane legs
riduculous back....
and good balance
dorian only had a great back....
one qeustion.... and i would like yoy..(suckmymuscle.. and probecito...and ice)
to answer... yes or no.... no thing but a yes or no
the bodybuilder with the greater amount of outstanding bodyparts is superior?
the bodybuilder with the lesser amount of oustanding bodyparts is superior?
a simple yes or no to both questions
ONE WORD
I knew none of you would answer this question
ill ask again
is the bodybuilder with the greater amount of body parts superior to a bodybulder with the lesser amount of outstanding bodyparts ?
yes or no.
did dorian have more outstanding bodyparts than paul?
should a bodybuilding contest be judged on one bodypart?
other than back what other bodypart could dorian win with?
one word for either quest
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I knew none of you would answer this question
ill ask again
is the bodybuilder with the greater amount of body parts superior to a bodybulder with the lesser amount of outstanding bodyparts ?
yes or no.
did dorian have more outstanding bodyparts than paul?
should a bodybuilding contest be judged on one bodypart?
other than back what other bodypart could dorian win with?
one word for either quest
it doesn't matter. The judges dont judge based on individual parts, but rather the entire physique thus Yates winning.
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ahh i see...
i didnt ask you about the judges.. i asked for your observation..
and i asked for a one word answer..
which u cannot give me...because it will kill ur argument
because
a paul had way more outstanding bodyparts
b it is so obvious if u tried to answer.. otherwise.. it would show pure bias... which is what most of the posts from dorian fans are filled with on this thread...
thanks for helping prove m point by being unable to answer the questions as requested..
im off to the gym.. I leave y'all to it
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in a nutshell but and i personally dont think piere should have defeated yates.. because his physique is even more sloppy than yates...
basically the guy with the greater amound of outstanding bodyparts....should win...
a la coleman insane arms
insane delts
insane legs
riduculous back....
and good balance
dorian only had a great back....
I have already addressed this in my long post. If you are unable and/or unwilling to understand, then there's nothing that I can do.
one qeustion.... and i would like yoy..(suckmymuscle.. and probecito...and ice)
to answer... yes or no.... no thing but a yes or no
I cannot answer this with a simple yes or no. when you ask a question, the person who answers it is doing a favor to you. You do not have the right to impose pre-conditions on how the question will be answered. Who do you think you are? However, even though I can't reply this with a single word, I will keep it very short and sweet.
the bodybuilder with the greater amount of outstanding bodyparts is superior?
Not if these bodyparts look inferior in the symmetry round and mandatories when compared to a bodybuilder with less outstanding bodyparts.
the bodybuilder with the lesser amount of oustanding bodyparts is superior?[/b]
Yes, if his inferior bodyparts combine better to create an overral superior look in the symmetry round and mandatories -in other words, if he looks better from more angles and poses than the guy with more outstanding bodyparts.
SUCKMYMUSCLE.
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exactly. the nuthuggers cant seem to understand that dorian not only had a bunch of crappy bodyparts, he was put togther like a FRIDGE. wide blocky waist, and no aesthetics to speak of:
I find it very funny that you refer to people who don't agree with you as a "guy" when you would love to have ronnie's balls in your mouth and post about him EVERY chance you get. No offense, just an observation.
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so, you can't counter the countless shots of dorian looking like garbage so you instead attack the 'credibility' of all of us instead of attacking the whole problem in the first place: that dorian looked like garbage post tear?
::)
here we go again: why don't you face the reality of the pics instead of saying we are all idiots? ::)
deal with the shots and explain them.
you can't.
you have to instead attack the 'credibility' of all of us rather than doing what you should be doing:
admitting that post tear dorian looked horrible and was still given perfect scores.. :-\
i have explained the shots - and they differ then what you interpret them as.
i've backed up my interpretations with the audeince ovation and quotes.
you state your biased opinion and think that everyone shares it and its a fact.
nothing could be further from the truth.
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couple more pics...
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couple more pics...
This is one of my favorite Dorian pictures:
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I have already addressed this in my long post. If you are unable and/or unwilling to understand, then there's nothing that I can do.
SUCKMYMUSCLE.
Translation: i have not been able to wear you down with endless internet verbal diahhrea.
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it doesn't matter. The judges dont judge based on individual parts, but rather the entire physique thus Yates winning.
but when you take a bunch of shitty parts and put them together what do you get?
a shitty physique: :-\
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This is one of my favorite Dorian pictures:
One of your faves just ruined with Coleman having more width, better taper and smaller waist to go with excellent dryness.
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One of your faves just ruined with Coleman having more width, better taper and smaller waist to go with excellent dryness.
LOL....Dorian appears to be a foot wider in an actual real life comparison....not some fantasy land bullshit hahahahaha
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LOL....Dorian appears to be a foot wider in an actual real life comparison....not some fantasy land bullshit hahahahaha
Thanx for walking into a door - same thing, in color without different angles. Coleman blowing Yates away bwhaahahahahaahahahah
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:-*
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Thanx for walking into a door - same thing, in color without different angles. Coleman blowing Yates away bwhaahahahahaahahahah
Too bad your boy couldn't even beat a 195lb Shawn Ray hahahahahahahahah
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but when you take a bunch of shitty parts and put them together what do you get?
a shitty physique: :-\
says you:
which is no one.
when will you understand?
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but when you take a bunch of shitty parts and put them together what do you get?
a shitty physique: :-\
you were saying?
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/yates/dy187.jpg)
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says you:
which is no one.
when will you understand?
actually, pretty much most non-weider affliated people say that post tear dorian was far overrated.
read the internet.
read the non-weider mags from the period.
read the quotes from bodybuilders whom dorian competed against that are now no longer bound by Uncle Joe and can speak freely: eg. Shawn, dorian, flex etc.
all of them said dorian was great.
fast foward to non-uncle Joe times (ie they are no longer recieving a pay cheque) and the truth comes out - they say he did not deserve to win post tear..
when will you understand THIS? ::)
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dillet> yates
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see?
most do not agree with the judges post tear hype.
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Thanx for walking into a door - same thing, in color without different angles. Coleman blowing Yates away bwhaahahahahaahahahah
coleman destroyed yates.. in that 96 pic..
dillet bis >yates
dillet tris >yates
dillet delts >yates
dillet chest=yates
dillet quads > yates
dillet hams >yates
dillet calves = yates
dillet back <yates
dilet balanc>yates
dillet size >>>> yates
dillet condition<yates
dillet taper>yates..
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;)
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LOL
I guess Icecold will jump in and say we are all not "credible" or something because apparently to be a judge you have to have 7 eyes.. ::)
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coleman destroyed yates.. in that 96 pic..
dillet bis >yates
dillet tris >yates
dillet delts >yates
dillet chest=yates
dillet quads > yates
dillet hams >yates
dillet calves = yates
dillet back <yates
dilet balanc>yates
dillet size >>>> yates
dillet condition<yates
dillet taper>yates..
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;)
Pubes or gimmicks SUCKY/ice want to try to refute this in other train wreck?
"The keg" getting beat down here. :o
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coleman destroyed yates.. in that 96 pic..
dillet bis >yates
dillet tris >yates
dillet delts >yates
dillet chest=yates
dillet quads > yates
dillet hams >yates
dillet calves = yates
dillet back <yates
dilet balanc>yates
dillet size >>>> yates
dillet condition<yates
dillet taper>yates..
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;)
this is quite good....i agree with most of it....
dillet has great calves but i wouldnt say they are quite as good as dorian's....almost though
if dillet had conditioning like munzer and could pose like shawn ray then ....we would have a winner
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Thanx for walking into a door - same thing, in color without different angles. Coleman blowing Yates away bwhaahahahahaahahahah
Has this site ever had a comparison thread that didn't end up here?
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if dillet had conditioning like munzer and could pose like shawn ray then ....we would have a winner
agree.
but that's a big "if".
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see?
most do not agree with the judges post tear hype.
why when 1 person, who has said the samething over and over, do you say "most"?
i already listed 6 people on here that disagree with you.
notice, i didnt say "most".
1 person does and you sayd "most" - LMAO.
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actually, pretty much most non-weider affliated people say that post tear dorian was far overrated.
read the internet.
read the non-weider mags from the period.
read the quotes from bodybuilders whom dorian competed against that are now no longer bound by Uncle Joe and can speak freely: eg. Shawn, dorian, flex etc.
all of them said dorian was great.
fast foward to non-uncle Joe times (ie they are no longer recieving a pay cheque) and the truth comes out - they say he did not deserve to win post tear..
when will you understand THIS? ::)
hilarious how you seem to know what other people are thinking whether it be judges or other bbers.
if someone says, yates was the ________, you have to make an excuse for what they would say.
why cant you just except it?
like what ronnie said in 2003?
instead of accepting his own fucking words, you say he's being humble.
you are already the worst guy on this board (cue the thread for the 06 olympia where EVERYONE was talking about your meltdown after jay embarrassed ronnie onstage - and 3 more times on the euro tour).
but, now you know what their saying and chaning their own words.
pathetic.
i'll believe it when you post their quotes.
stop putting make believe words in people's mouths.
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actually, pretty much most non-weider affliated people say that post tear dorian was far overrated.
actually, pretty much the entire population in this world say that 2001 and 2002 Ronnie was far overrated and should not win the Olympia
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actually, pretty much the entire population in this world say that 2001 and 2002 Ronnie was far overrated and should not win the Olympia
exactly.
hulkster and dumpster will ignore that fact, even when ronnie looses the fucking prejudging.
instead, they'll post a picture of dorian where he is 5'1" vs. levrone who is only 5'9.
i guess they think an entire career can be summed with 1 inaccurate photo.
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I have already addressed this in my long post. If you are unable and/or unwilling to understand, then there's nothing that I can do.
I cannot answer this with a simple yes or no. when you ask a question, the person who answers it is doing a favor to you. You do not have the right to impose pre-conditions on how the question will be answered. Who do you think you are? However, even though I can't reply this with a single word, I will keep it very short and sweet.
Not if these bodyparts look inferior in the symmetry round and mandatories when compared to a bodybuilder with less outstanding bodyparts.
Yes, if his inferior bodyparts combine better to create an overral superior look in the symmetry round and mandatories -in other words, if he looks better from more angles and poses than the guy with more outstanding bodyparts.
SUCKMYMUSCLE.
Mesomorph, you asked the question and I gave you the answer. Here it is.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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actually, pretty much the entire population in this world say that 2001 and 2002 Ronnie was far overrated and should not win the Olympia
maybe so. but
Ronnie had two controversial wins.
Dorian had four.
Everyone acknowledged that the only reason that Ronnie's wins were controversial was because he was out of shape.
Everyone acknowledged that even in shape, Dorian still got owned from the front by most of his competition.
Dorian was nothing special from the front - this is an opinion widely held.
this thread is just another example of proof of that.
sure, you can say we are all nobodies and don't know what we are talking about.
but it doesn't change the fact that the majority of people out there agree that dorian was all back and not much else.
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maybe so. but
Ronnie had two controversial wins.
Dorian had four.
Everyone acknowledged that the only reason that Ronnie's wins were controversial was because he was out of shape.
Everyone acknowledged that even in shape, Dorian still got owned from the front by most of his competition.
Dorian was nothing special from the front - this is an opinion widely held.
this thread is just another example of proof of that.
sure, you can say we are all nobodies and don't know what we are talking about.
but it doesn't change the fact that the majority of people out there agree that dorian was all back and not much else.
funny....nobody who went to the show thought they were controversial except you sitting at your computer a decade later LOL. If the show was judged so poorly, why was Dorian not booed by the crowd (like Ronnie was in 2002), but rather received the greatest applause of any competitor?
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for the same reason markus ruhl gets such a response.
you don't have to have the best physique at the show to get the loudest cheers.
duh. ::)
ps did you not read what I said? some of the people commenting on dorian's post tear physique today were the ATHLETES he was competing against back then..
there is REASON that they now say what would have been career suicide to say back then..
but then again, this is probably too much for your brain to handle for one night...
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for the same reason markus ruhl gets such a response.
you don't have to have the best physique at the show to get the loudest cheers.
duh. ::)
ps did you not read what I said? some of the people commenting on dorian's post tear physique today were the ATHLETES he was competing against back then..
there is REASON that they now say what would have been career suicide to say back then..
but then again, this is probably too much for your brain to handle for one night...
You speak on matters you do not know about. Shawn was hardly quiet about his disdain for the judging and Yates' winning.
If Yates was owned so badly and was so overrated as you claim he would have been booed off stage like the overrated Coleman was in 2002, simple as that.
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Hulkster is so pissed that Yates was as dominant as he was that he has to come up with bullshit excuses as to why Coleman was never that dominant.
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Seriously, Hulkster's whole basis for his arguments are slanted pictures. This is the reason why no one who went to the show agrees with him....maybe that's why a GetBig member who attended both the 01ASC and 93O said that Yates would win. hahahahahahah
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you keep saying that no one agrees with ME.
but you ignore all the writers in the industry, all the getbiggers on this board, all the athletes like shawn, flex, dillett etc. who ALL AGREE WITH ME. ::)
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Pssssst pubes...In your pic Dillet's waist is smaller, legs, arms, delts and traps much bigger, calves very comparable if not better LOL WTF is pubes babbling about. :-*
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Pssssst pubes...In your pic Dillet's waist is smaller, legs, arms, delts and traps much bigger, calves very comparable if not better LOL WTF is pubes babbling about. :-*
actually, Paul's calves were the equal of dorian's, if not better:
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actually, Paul's calves were the equal of dorian's, if not better:
hmmmmmm :-\
dillet had some of the best calves ever...but theyre a fraction off dorians, as dorians are a fraction off matarazzo's
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hmmmmmm :-\
dillet had some of the best calves ever...but theyre a fraction off dorians, as dorians are a fraction off matarazzo's
That only leaves the rest of the physique where Yates is blown off the stage LOL
Notice BTW that Dillet's "weak back" is miles wider than Yates, with far greater taper. The only thing he was lacking was detail.
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you keep saying that no one agrees with ME.
but you ignore all the writers in the industry, all the getbiggers on this board, all the athletes like shawn, flex, dillett etc. who ALL AGREE WITH ME. ::)
I trust the fans who were in attendance at the shows.
The views of Dorian's peers are insignificant, they all will claim that should have won.
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personally, I think Kevin Levrone should have won the 94 english grand prix show. and he was leading dorian after prejudging. but dorian pulled a ronnie and bounced back.
of course, the nuthuggers will think this is okay, but cry when ronnie does the same to jay 7 years later.. ::)
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That only leaves the rest of the physique where Yates is blown off the stage LOL
Notice BTW that Dillet's "weak back" is miles wider than Yates, with far greater taper. The only thing he was lacking was detail.
if only dillet could spread his lats wide and actually hit the pose....
dillets traps were huge....his trap thickness going right down his back
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I trust the fans who were in attendance at the shows.
why don't you trust you own bloody eye and brain? ::)
Look at this: if you honestly believe that this smooth a physique deserved to be as dominant as he was scored,well, then I don't know what to say.
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why don't you trust you own bloody eye and brain? ::)
Look at this: if you honestly believe that this smooth a physique deserved to be as dominant as he was scored,well, then I don't know what to say.
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Dorian looks awesome there, not a single weak area in that shot.
Plus, you should know well enough, the grand prix shows are just a parade for the Olympia winner. Everyone knows that Ronnie tightened up this year after the Olympia but still lost to an inferior Jay.
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Dorian looks awesome there, not a single weak area in that shot
yeah, other than the fact that he looks to be in off season shape... ::)
bodybuilding competition 101: you have to diet to show some definition while onstage.. :-\
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Damn, it looks like Dillet pumped a tad too much oil into the right delt compared to the left :-\
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/129.jpg)
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Damn, it looks like Dillet pumped a tad too much oil into the right delt compared to the left :-\
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/129.jpg)
i thinks it down to paul being a shite poser.....
if flex wheeler or darrem charles had that body they could make it look 10 times better
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Hmm....
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/236.jpg)
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you just love making up synthol accusations don't you? ::)
this was 1994 for fuck's sake.
you make no sense.
you claim synthol because of a smooth and puffy muscle.
well guess what genius? according to your logic your own hero dorian must have been pumping synthol all over the place in his left arm: ::)
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Sorry, but this is just fucked up.
There's absolutely no reason one delt should be twice the size of the other
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/148.jpg)
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Sorry, but this is just fucked up.
There's absolutely no reason one delt should be twice the size of the other
They're not seriously you need glasses & are running out of excuses.
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Dillet and Levrone owned again - paul looking clueless as to what to do LOL
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/21.jpg)
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Would someone mind telling me who this is completely owning Dillet.... :-\
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/142.jpg)
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The top three...note: no sign of Dillet hahahahahah
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/30.jpg)
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Would someone mind telling me who this is completely owning Dillet.... :-\
Um, no one.
Yates is pasty as hell and unimpressive.
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izat samir in the background?
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Um, no one.
Yates is pasty as hell and unimpressive.
go hit your gayflex old fart hahahahaha
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/englishgrandprix1994/236.jpg)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=152768.0;attach=171854;image)
extreme yates ownage.
paul is even close to the camera.
that is why yates won.
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If Yates was owned so badly and was so overrated as you claim he would have been booed off stage like the overrated Coleman was in 2002, simple as that.
exactly.
what is the bullshit excuse hulkster and dumpster will come up with for that?
if anything, the fans would have been outraged that someone won that should not have.
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exactly.
what is the bullshit excuse hulkster and dumpster will come up with for that?
if anything, the fans would have been outraged that someone won that should not have.
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god you are dumb.
you can't equate fan reaction at contests with physique
just ask Markus Ruhl or Mike Matarazzo. ::)
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for the same reason markus ruhl gets such a response.
you don't have to have the best physique at the show to get the loudest cheers.
duh. ::)
ps did you not read what I said? some of the people commenting on dorian's post tear physique today were the ATHLETES he was competing against back then..
there is REASON that they now say what would have been career suicide to say back then..
but then again, this is probably too much for your brain to handle for one night...
i told you to stop putting words in people's mouths if you cant prove it.
here is what paul really felt about dorian
from, flex, may 1998, page 242 - "Unforgettable sightings by the superstars"
- well after yates retired:
THE CONDITION OF DORIAN YATES AT THE 1995 MR. OLYMPIA WAS THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I'VE EVER WITNESSED ON ANY STAGE. HE WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD. I DONT SEE ANY WAY HE CAN DUPLICATE THE CONDITION AGAIN. HE CAN COME IN BIGGER, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW HE CAN COME IN BETTER. I DOUBT THAT EVEN DORIAN KNEW HOW THAT HAPPENED. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS ON MY KNEES GOING, YES, MASTER, I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT. I WAS JUST HAPPY I WAS NOWHERE NEAR HIM ON THAT STAGE.
now, what.
countdown to excuses..........
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for the same reason markus ruhl gets such a response.
you don't have to have the best physique at the show to get the loudest cheers.
duh. ::)
ps did you not read what I said? some of the people commenting on dorian's post tear physique today were the ATHLETES he was competing against back then..
there is REASON that they now say what would have been career suicide to say back then..
but then again, this is probably too much for your brain to handle for one night...
time to put up or shut up.
post something, anything, where a magazine from an olympia report or an athlete said yates DID NOT deserve to win.
you keep saying how EVERYONE agrees with you, well time to fucking prove it.
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god you are dumb.
you can't equate fan reaction at contests with physique
just ask Markus Ruhl or Mike Matarazzo. ::)
more excuses.
you are trully delusional.
your are just mad and bitter than ronnie was booed several times announced as the winner whereas yates never was.
only an idiot (like yourself) would believe that if someone was given a gift and did not deserve to win, then the entire fucking audience would cheer.
i guess you'll say weider paid them all of.
of course, you're not going to say anything about the 'ronnnie' chant from 98.
LMAO.
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THE CONDITION OF DORIAN YATES AT THE 1995 MR. OLYMPIA WAS THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I'VE EVER WITNESSED ON ANY STAGE. HE WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD. I DONT SEE ANY WAY HE CAN DUPLICATE THE CONDITION AGAIN. HE CAN COME IN BIGGER, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW HE CAN COME IN BETTER. I DOUBT THAT EVEN DORIAN KNEW HOW THAT HAPPENED. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS ON MY KNEES GOING, YES, MASTER, I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT. I WAS JUST HAPPY I WAS NOWHERE NEAR HIM ON THAT STAGE.
holy shit....hahahahahahahahh a
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post something, anything, where a magazine from an olympia report or an athlete said yates DID NOT deserve to win.
this has already been done in the truce thread.
musclemag 1994 olympia issue. musclegoround section. they ripped apart both dorian and lenda murry that year (her win was even more biased than dorian's over laura crevalle that year)
and also the olympia review from that year saying that shawn ray should have won in 1994 with the last sentence of the article..
its been done. I don't have the ironman mags from the period anymore, but they were very critical of many of dorian's post tear wins too.
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this has already been done in the truce thread.
musclemag 1994 olympia issue. musclegoround section. they ripped apart both dorian and lenda murry that year (her win was even more biased than dorian's over laura crevalle that year)
and also the olympia review from that year saying that shawn ray should have won in 1994 with the last sentence of the article..
its been done. I don't have the ironman mags from the period anymore, but they were very critical of many of dorian's post tear wins too.
please.
then fucking post it then.
anyone can make up shit and then say they dont have the mags anymore.
nice try, loser.
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please.
then fucking post it then.
anyone can make up shit and then say they dont have the mags anymore.
nice try, loser.
see the truce thread retard.
what mags i still have I have posted quotes from
its not my fault you are too stupid to remember that all this has been shown before.
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see the truce thread retard.
what mags i still have I have posted quotes from
its not my fault you are too stupid to remember that all this has been shown before.
you have never posted anything from a direct magazine.
the only thing you ever posted was 'ken b''s comments from another board.
nice try.
if you have anything, you would post that fucking thing about 10 times a day.
nice try.
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No I wouldn't because the hundreds of pics speak for themselves.
notice I don't care that Peter M. has said that ronnie's AC physique is the greatest ever along with his b back.
do you see me quoting that every post?
no.
the pics speak for themselves
its YOUR side that has to RELY on WORDS BECAUSE REALITY SHOWS POST TEAR DORIAN TO LOOK LIKE GARBAGE:
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No I wouldn't because the hundreds of pics speak for themselves.
notice I don't care that Peter M. has said that ronnie's AC physique is the greatest ever along with his b back.
do you see me quoting that every post?
no.
the pics speak for themselves
its YOUR side that has to RELY on WORDS BECAUSE REALITY SHOWS POST TEAR DORIAN TO LOOK LIKE GARBAGE:
Oh yes....garbage.... ::)
how stupid are you?
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its YOUR side that has to RELY on WORDS BECAUSE REALITY SHOWS POST TEAR DORIAN TO LOOK LIKE GARBAGE:
why do you refuse to accept that is your worthless opinion and has absolute zero fucking validity?
you say one thing, and have nothing to back it up, other than your biased and morphed point of view.
i say something else and ronnie agrees with me.
why is that so hard to understand??????
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yes, GARBAGE: compared to his competition: ::)
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continue on with your sad life Hulkster......continue on trying to justify to yourself why Yates was twice as dominant as Coleman hahaahaha
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yeah, with his big 6 wins. :-\
ronnie has won almost three times many contests as dorian ever, did, including TWO more olympias and an Arnold Classic title. ::)
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continue on with your sad life Hulkster......continue on trying to justify to yourself why Yates was twice as dominant as Coleman hahaahaha
it'll only get worse come olympia time this year.
haha.
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yeah, with his big 6 wins. :-\
ronnie has won almost three times many contests as dorian ever, did, including TWO more olympias and an Arnold Classic title. ::)
yeah, he won more shows, but how many did he win when yates was king and the competition was great.
exactly.
also, ronnie has about 20 times (literally) the amount of loses dorian has.
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also, ronnie has about 20 times (literally) the amount of loses dorian has.
but I thought Ronnie was in his prime in 95 and 96?? ::)
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Competitors feared Dorian twice as much as they did Ronnie - just ask Levrone ;)
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Dorian = most overrated Mr. O in my opinion.
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i told you to stop putting words in people's mouths if you cant prove it.
here is what paul really felt about dorian
from, flex, may 1998, page 242 - "Unforgettable sightings by the superstars"
- well after yates retired:
THE CONDITION OF DORIAN YATES AT THE 1995 MR. OLYMPIA WAS THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I'VE EVER WITNESSED ON ANY STAGE. HE WAS OUT OF THIS WORLD. I DONT SEE ANY WAY HE CAN DUPLICATE THE CONDITION AGAIN. HE CAN COME IN BIGGER, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW HE CAN COME IN BETTER. I DOUBT THAT EVEN DORIAN KNEW HOW THAT HAPPENED. NEVER IN MY LIFE HAD I SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I WAS ON MY KNEES GOING, YES, MASTER, I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT. I WAS JUST HAPPY I WAS NOWHERE NEAR HIM ON THAT STAGE.
now, what.
countdown to excuses..........
For those of you who still haven't seen it, here is Dorian's posing routine at the 1995 Olympia. Pay very close attention to this, because this represents the ne plus ultra of bodybuilding conditioning: even to this day, it is the gold-standard that has never been equalled let alone surpassed by any other bodybuilder. Some bodybuilders are bigger and others are more aesthetic, but no bodybuilder has been this big&hard at the same time. There is no way in hell that Dillet, with his structural flaws and muscular deficiencies, could ever defeat this. Ever! ;)
wwww.youtube.com/watch?v=qgwOngAwnp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgwOngAwnp4)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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For those of you who still haven't seen it, here is Dorian's posing routine at the 1995 Olmpia. Pay vety close attention to this, because this represents the ne plus ultra of bodybuilding conditioning: even to this day, it is the gold-standard that has never been equalled let alone surpassed by any other bodybuilder. Some bodybuilders are bigger and others are more aesthetic, but no bodybuilder has been this big&hard at the same time. There is no way in hell that Dillet, with his structural flaws and muscular deficiencies, could ever defeat this. Ever! ;)
wwww.youtube.com/watch?v=qgwOngAwnp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgwOngAwnp4)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Great post !! 95 was unreal
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That was kind of a shitty version of Dorian's posing routine for the 1995 Olympia. Here is a much better one from my personal archive:www.youtube.com/watch?v=teq_cqDOJ_s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teq_cqDOJ_s)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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yeah, with his big 6 wins. :-\
ronnie has won almost three times many contests as dorian ever, did, including TWO more olympias and an Arnold Classic title. ::)
yes but remember, yates won 15 of 17 pro shows and the lowest placing he got was 2nd, straight out the box. this counts for something. ;D
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yes but remember, yates won 15 of 17 pro shows and the lowest placing he got was 2nd, straight out the box. this counts for something. ;D
It proves that a fascination on numbers goes hand in hand with guilibility on IFBB integrity & contest placings. ;D
Hope this helps
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No disrespect to Dorian but he never had that wow factor like Coleman did.
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No disrespect to Dorian but he never had that wow factor like Coleman did.
agreed. this is something that the nuthuggers will never understand - dorian lacked the shape and detail from the front (other than the abs of course) to ever really have that WOW factor that 93 Flex or 99 Ronnie had.
how can you when you are built like a fridge and get owned by most guys from the front?
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Hulkster, GET HELP. We know you are IN LOVE with Ronnie, but this is BEYOND obsessive.
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No disrespect to Dorian but he never had that wow factor like Coleman did.
F&#@# the tear, this was always true.
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Pumpster's mr. olympia hahahahahahahahaha
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agreed. this is something that the nuthuggers will never understand - dorian lacked the shape and detail from the front (other than the abs of course) to ever really have that WOW factor that 93 Flex or 99 Ronnie had.
how can you when you are built like a fridge and get owned by most guys from the front?
then explain why the audience reaction was much louder for dorian than for ronnie and flex combined?
dorian did not have the shape and detail that flex and ronnie had.
flex and ronnie did not have the size and conditioning that yates had.
when will you finally realize that what constitutes the winner is totally different than reality?
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why don't you start trying to explain the pics rather than worry about fan reaction?
dorian post tear looked like garbage (at least from the entire front side) like everyone says and all you can do to counter that is talk about who got cheered or booed? ::)
epic avoidance of what most people on this thread are saying..
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Guys, let it go. It is absolutely pointless arguing with Hulkster. I was reading through the archives and I saw that I debated Dorian vs Ronnie with Hulkster in four different threads way back in 2005. The guy is a complete fanatic and his love for Ronnie knows no bounds. I think that Dorian is better than Ronnie, but I don't consider Dorian to be the best bodybuuilder ever. Hulkster, conversely, believes that Ronnie is the greatest ever, even greater than Oliva, and that all of his bodyparts are better than the bodyparts of all other bodybuuilder. Let Hulkster think that he "won" and just stop posting. It is pointless arguing with this retard. He probably even has some latent homosexual tendencies, in the way the he is so completely in love with another man. Just let it stop.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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this coming from the guy who spends hours posting 5 million word posts that no one reads.. :-\
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this coming from the guy who spends hours posting 5 million word posts that no one reads.. :-\
Dude, you are a fanatic. Look at your post count. How many of them were made defending Ronnie? Ten thousand of them? You have already stated that you think that Ronnie is better than Arnold, Sergio, Haney, etc, and that he has the best chest, delts, quads, biceps, triceps, back of al times. So who's more of a guy? At least I realize that Dorian would not be able to defeat a prime Oliva, but you believe otherwise. Ronnie was a bottom-feeder for many years when he couldn't make a single call-out at even minor pro shows to get a pay-check. He was never a star like Dorian, who won practically every contest he entered including the Mr.Olympia on only his second try. Seriously, dude, get a fucking life. You are such a fucking loser and it is pathetic.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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why don't you start trying to explain the pics rather than worry about fan reaction?
dorian post tear looked like garbage (at least from the entire front side) like everyone says and all you can do to counter that is talk about who got cheered or booed? ::)
epic avoidance of what most people on this thread are saying..
unreal how moronic you actually are thinking your shitty opinion on pictures is the final word for everything:
all post tear pics:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates02.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates03.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy27.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy39.jpg)
you have serious problems.
you obsession with ronnie is scary.
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why don't you start trying to explain the pics rather than worry about fan reaction?
dorian post tear looked like garbage (at least from the entire front side) like everyone says and all you can do to counter that is talk about who got cheered or booed? ::)
epic avoidance of what most people on this thread are saying..
the point is that if yates according to you looked like garbage, then the fans would have said something then.
it is no different in boxing or any other sport where judges decided the winner.
it would be the samething as you claiming the fighter winning the decision did not deserve to win, but the crowd cheers anyway.
no, idiot, if the winner is not deserving the fucking crowd boos.
dumbass.
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dillet>yates
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LOL but it doesn't matter what reality says!
its all based on the fan reaction! ::)
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Pumpster's mr. olympia hahahahahahahahaha
Another pubes meltdown reminding us that Dillet owned Yates despite contest or "audience" reaction LOL Yates looking as lost as pubes here.
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Guys, let it go. It is absolutely pointless arguing with Hulkster. I was reading through the archives and I saw that I debated Dorian vs Ronnie with Hulkster in four different threads way back in 2005. The guy is a complete fanatic and his love for Ronnie knows no bounds. I think that Dorian is better than Ronnie, but I don't consider Dorian to be the best bodybuuilder ever. Hulkster, conversely, believes that Ronnie is the greatest ever, even greater than Oliva, and that all of his bodyparts are better than the bodyparts of all other bodybuuilder. Let Hulkster think that he "won" and just stop posting. It is pointless arguing with this retard. He probably even has some latent homosexual tendencies, in the way the he is so completely in love with another man. Just let it stop.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
SUCKY basically suggesting that his attraction to white BBs with bricklayer bodies is the way to go. ::)
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dillet>yates
Pithy
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unreal how moronic you actually are thinking your shitty opinion on pictures is the final word for everything:
all post tear pics:
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates02.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Yates03.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy27.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy39.jpg)
you have serious problems.
you obsession with ronnie is scary.
ronnie looks unreal, but i have to say that dorian had the best overall quality muscle. compare these pictures to cutler, to me personally dorian had one of the best quality muscles.
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ronnie looks unreal, but i have to say that dorian had the best overall quality muscle. compare these pictures to cutler, to me personally dorian had one of the best quality muscles.
Comparing Cutler to Yates is an insult to Yates.
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Dillet was a big guy
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdpprmSG5l1qbec6so1_500.jpg)
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Comparing Cutler to Yates is an insult to Yates.
Jay should actually apologize to Mr Yates for this
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WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT...WHY THE HELL DID DORIAN EVEN STEP ON THE STAGE??? HE IS BEING WALKED ALL OVER BY DILLET. DILLET HAD AN AWESOME PHYSIQUE...WIDE AS HELL SHOULDERS, TAPERED WAIST, CRAZY LEGS...HE LACKED A BACK THAT WAS AS DEVELOPED AS THE FRONT, BUT OVER ALL HE WAS AWESOME...HAVE TO ADMIT HE WAS NEVER A GOOD POSER, BUT A MONSTER NONE THE LESS.
holy shit i love these threads
lol