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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: dearth on June 09, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
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At the night show, the webcase revealed that there was 100 people at the most in attendance.
Heres a tip for bb.com,
Next time don't conduct interviews with an empty auditorium in the background.
It kinds of takes away from the "we had 1300 in attendance" claim.
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no, maybe 150. probably 6 rows were filled when they interviewed that one guy. and there were more earlier for the amateurs - families, etc.
amateurs always have more than the pros get.
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no, maybe 150. probably 6 rows were filled when they interviewed that one guy. and there were more earlier for the amateurs - families, etc.
amateurs always have more than the pros get.
And how many of those 150 were "industry people" who pretty much had to be there?
There's so little interest in IFBB pro shows, they pretty much have to combine with an NPC show so they can claim the higher attendance figures the friends and family of the NPC competitors bring.
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no, maybe 150. probably 6 rows were filled when they interviewed that one guy. and there were more earlier for the amateurs - families, etc.
amateurs always have more than the pros get.
150 people..umm..lol..you could get more people to go swimming during the dead of winter
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150 people..umm..lol..you could get more people to go swimming during the dead of winter
HAHAHA!!!!!!!
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How hard would it have been to take a few photos of the audience? Reminds me of the lost opportunity we missed by not taking enough photos the last time Melvin Goodrum put on his white posing trucks.
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onlyme would be proud, good job vince. ::)
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How hard would it have been to take a few photos of the audience?
The last thing Shawn wants is photographic evidence of the tiny size of the "crowd". He's probably pissed at BB.com for letting their cameras cut to the crowd for that interview.
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Heck, Goatboy, can't you represent us at those contests? I would have gone to see those shows and recorded them for Getbig.
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Hi Sgt. D, I am your biggest fan.
Hello Mr. Haider
I am glad you are one of my fans.
SGT. D
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::) You guys have no idea what you are talking about. The place was packed.
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I say pay extras to be there for the photoshoots.
Dummies in the background with the right lighting might also work.
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Heck, Goatboy, can't you represent us at those contests? I would have gone to see those shows and recorded them for Getbig.
If I were going to fly up to Denver for a weekend, the last thing I'm going to do is spend my time attending some BB freak-show. I'd probably go hiking in Rocky Mountain National Park instead. Sorry, Vince.
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Hey, easy on son! The show was the biggest success yet!
Huge attendance.
Stop the jealousy.
peace
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Hey, easy on son! The show was the biggest success yet!
Huge attendance.
Stop the jealousy.
peace
Hi shawn!
peace
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Hey, easy on son! The show was the biggest success yet!
Huge attendance.
Stop the jealousy.
peace
Biggest yet means there was more people than last year. ;D
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And your point is ?
'Biggest' also refers to the 'sell-out', that was the expo!
Stop the hating son!
Peace.
PS And also, Keith, keep on bouncing those checks! Hahahha ( you are a lyer )
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'Biggest' also refers to the 'sell-out', that was the expo!
I heard there were like 5 people there, Shawn. :-\
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Come on, Goatboy, no one posts as much as you do about bodybuilding and not want to see these contests and be part of the scene. Do the sightseeing after the show. What about representing Getbig at the next Goodrum show? Photos, video, interview, the lot.
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And your point is ?
::) Never mind.
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Yes Hank is shawn, I am shawn, texasbubba is shawn, ron is shawn, bob is shawn, lift is shawn, and half of people on here is shawn.
GoatBoy we cant get anything past you. ::)
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Come on, Goatboy, no one posts as much as you do about bodybuilding and not want to see these contests and be part of the scene.
I just like to argue with people online, and getbig happens to be one of the best sites for that regardles of topic.
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::) Never mind.
Hi shawn
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Yes Hank is shawn, I am shawn, texasbubba is shawn, ron is shawn, bob is shawn, lift is shawn, and half of people on here is shawn.
No, just you and hank. ;D
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I have no idea who Hank is. He is a flipflopper. One minute the guy talks badly about shawn, lee, milos, luke, and me. Then he changes his mind about a few of them. :-\
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And yes, the Colo will be back, and will be even a greater success than this year's.
How are you gonna convince Vyo to throw more good money after bad? Isn't being burned twice enough for them?
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Hi shawn
Actually that was funny. ;D
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The Colo has been signed off for next year. It is all systems go!
Our profit margins were up by 40% on the previous years!
Hello Milos, that must hurt, huh?
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The Colo has been signed off for next year. It is all systems go!
Our profit margins were up by 40% on the previous years!
Hello Milos, that must hurt, huh?
"profit"?? ::)
I might believe you if you said "losses were down 40%" or something.
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There will be no Colorado Pro next year.
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The Colo has been signed off for next year. It is all systems go!
Our profit margins were up by 40% on the previous years!
Hello Milos, that must hurt, huh?
is that because you gave away a 25 dollar tricycle instead of the 26,000 dollar Hummer?
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Forget the posturing.
How many were in the audience? All we heard was most of the crowd left after the women were finished. 100? 150? 1500?
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Forget the posturing.
How many were in the audience? All we heard was most of the crowd left after the women were finished. 100? 150? 1500?
Look at the bb.com video.
6 rows max (at center stage). How many you figure a row holds, given the width of the stage?
I'd guess 100-150 people were there total... maybe 200.
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::) You guys have no idea what you are talking about. The place was packed.
HAHAHAHA
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Our profit margins were up by 40% on the previous years!
I just want to punch the shit out of you for being so stupid.
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Sean will be back next year, his show is here to stay!
Stop the negativity!
Sean is a promoter, and a promoter he will stay!
Keith, i know it riles you that Sean can pull out a 'financial success' from the Colo! You so much wanted him to fail, and that didn't happen! Hahaha.
At least have the balls to acknowledge you were wrong.....again!
Keith, say hello to your family AKA - onlyme
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I just want to punch the shit out of you for being so stupid.
;D I gotta admit, hank is the only gimmic I would like to choke.
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Sean will be back next year, his show is here to stay!
Stop the negativity!
Sean is a promoter, and a promoter he will stay!
Keith, i know it riles you that Sean can pull out a 'financial success' from the Colo! You so much wanted him to fail, and that didn't happen! Hahaha.
At least have the balls to acknowledge you were wrong.....again!
Keith, say hello to your family AKA - onlyme
Shawn openly admitted last year was operating at a loss to get the event started.
saying 'we were up 40% profits" makes you sound like a fugging retard, man. I mean, I would spit on your mother right now, thats how much I hate you.
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How many watched the webcast? About 4000 I think Will said?
Lets analyze this:
Only a couple hundred were in attendance live at the show, and how many of them were industry people who sorta had to be there?
Then, you had a worldwide internet audience of only 4000. That's right... even though the event was free, and you didn't even have to leave your living room to watch it, out of the 6 billion people in the entire world this was available to, only 4000 chose to watch.
I think the "sport" has a great future, and have no doubt Shawn's show will turn amazing profits with thousands of paid attendees next year! ::)
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;D I gotta admit, hank is the only gimmic I would like to choke.
Shawn has that effect on people.
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I think the "sport" has a great future, and have no doubt Shawn's show will turn amazing profits with thousands of paid attendees next year! ::)
yes. based on pre-orders, we have already determined next years profits will be up 700%.
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yes. based on pre-orders, we have already determined next years profits will be up 700%.
Let's see... this year's profit was 0.
700% of 0 is what? Any math majors out there who can help? ;D
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Let's see... this year's profit was 0.
700% of 0 is what? Any math majors out there who can help? ;D
luckily, hank wood is here to help us out.
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I was there at the show that night...there were a lot of people there that night! Not just 100-150...
Why do most of you guys wish this show was a failure? Why didnt you guys come and support the show/support the bodybuilders?
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I was there at the show that night...there were a lot of people there that night! Not just 100-150...
videotape showed 6 rows before finals.
but i guess we have your word. should we believe you, or our lying eyes?
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I was there at the show that night...there were a lot of people there that night! Not just 100-150...
Why do most of you guys wish this show was a failure?
We don't wish anything... just most of us here hate BS and coverup, and when the BB.com video clearly showed one thing, and all the sycophants fall all over each other on here denying what we saw with our own eyes, we're gonna call bullshit.
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I was there at the show that night...there were a lot of people there that night! Not just 100-150...
Why do most of you guys wish this show was a failure? Why didnt you guys come and support the show/support the bodybuilders?
then why was all the music echoing?
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I was sitting all the way in the left back near the doors!
The middle isle seats nearing the front to the judges were packed all the way to the rear. There were three collumns of seats....Many people sat in the left and middle collumn seats (facing the stage)...not many people sat in the right collumn seats..hence when the camera was filming, it was facing toward the seats on the right collumn, hence it looked like the venue didnt have any attendence but I was there....and it was a big crowd this year!
Howie was there too and some other getbiggers...they can validate this...
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I didnt notice the music was echoing? maybe something must be wrong with your ears?
You need to clean the wax out of your ears...
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I was sitting all the way in the left back near the doors!
The middle isle seats nearing the front to the judges were packed all the way to the rear. There were three collumns of seats....Many people sat in the left and middle collumn seats (facing the stage)...not many people sat in the right collumn seats..hence when the camera was filming, it was facing toward the seats on the right collumn, hence it looked like the venue didnt have any attendence but I was there....and it was a big crowd this year!
Howie was there too and some other getbiggers...they can validate this...
It looked to me like they were filming in the center, a few rows behind the judges table, that was clearly visible in the shots.
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Maybe during the prejudging many people werent there....but during the finals, the place had a lot of people.
I noticed some pics showed the audience during the prejudging....in some of those pics, the prejudging hasnt even started yet but a "few" people were in the audience so make it look like no one was really there...this could explain a lot..many people were at the expo than the prejudging
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Well, i was there...I didnt se myself or Howie on camera...does that mean that I wasnt there?
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The show was a huge success!
The haters like Keith, will do what they can to undermine bodybuilding because they are miserable and bitter! Keith resents seeing 'successful people' continuing to make a profit from the sport!
Keith, you were allegedly a promoter! Why so much hatred for the sport? Yes, you are fat and alone but that does not give you the right to demonise others!
PS. And Keith, Sean's family is still a unit....are you? Hahahahaha
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Many people I know that went, said it had a lot of people there. Jerry I agree with you, I have no idea why ppl on a bodybuilding board want a show to be a failure. This hate that Onlyme has for Shawn is really getting annoying. The dude just doesnt know when to let go. He is going to go to his grave angry as hell. I bet Onlyme will be like Lou, still bitter about the shows in the 70s. The guy has gone nuts, he thinks everybody that post on getbig is shawn.
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I didnt notice the music was echoing? maybe something must be wrong with your ears?
You need to clean the wax out of your ears...
thanks for the advice Jeryme...Now let me give you alittle...My uncle is a scysophenic...He sometimes sees 10 people in a room when in fact he is in the room all alone...He takes a drug called seroquel for it...
With that said my advice to you is that you should check into the drug seroquel...I think you are seeing people who aren't there...
So i'll clean the ear wax out of my ears but you make sure you take your seroquel....Sound good..
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Keith, i not mocking your illness. A stomach ulcer is serious business. It could even be life-threatening!
My point is, are you willing to die for hating Sean! That's right Keith, you are hating yourself into an early grave! A stomach ulcer is a warning sign!
You may joke by calling your stomach ulcer 'Sean' , but is an early death, the price you are willing to pay, for being a Sean-hater?
Keith, stop the hating and the ulcer may dissipate!
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Keith, i not mocking your illness. A stomach ulcer is serious business. It could even be life-threatening!
My point is, are you willing to die for hating Sean! That's right Keith, you are hating yourself into an early grave! A stomach ulcer is a warning sign!
You may joke by calling your stomach ulcer 'Sean' , but is an early death, the price you are willing to pay, for being a Sean-hater?
Keith, stop the hating and the ulcer may dissipate!
i can't believe i'm saying this but you do make some sense...Ulcers can be brought on from stress as we all know...And although alot of us kid around on here, sometimes it can get brutal if you let it...Keith cracks me up sometimes and Sean's one liners are funny as fuk...The fact that he kept posting the gif with the guy committing suicide when ever he talked about KIng was hysterical...We all knew what he would post and he kept doing it...What was funny became silly and then irritating and then you wanted to stick a pen in your own eye but then it became funny once again because it never stopped...What was the obvious became brilliance...
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Hey, easy on son! The show was the biggest success yet!
Huge attendance.
Stop the jealousy.
peace
are you saying that 100 people is huge?
Man, you gotta go out from your basement home sometime and mingle with people. It's sad to live life alone with your pet rat
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Well, i was there...I didnt se myself or Howie on camera...does that mean that I wasnt there?
I think you went to the wrong show
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Keith has copped so much hate of late!
He fails to explain the bounced-checks, continues to make excuses for his weight-gain and has orchestrated a relentless-campaign-of-hate, directed at Sean and his devoted family!
Well Keith, it looks like karma has come around and bitten you on the ass! This stomach ulcer is a direct result of your hating and bitterness!
Keith, your anger has now boiled over into a debilitating illness, if you will!
Hahahaha. I am not one to bask in someones personal tragedy, but for Keith, i make an exception!
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Let's see... this year's profit was 0.
700% of 0 is what? Any math majors out there who can help? ;D
700% of 0 is 40% better than last year..just ask hank
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Sgt D said:
Many people I know that went, said it had a lot of people there. Jerry I agree with you, I have no idea why ppl on a bodybuilding board want a show to be a failure. This hate that Onlyme has for Shawn is really getting annoying. The dude just doesnt know when to let go. He is going to go to his grave angry as hell. I bet Onlyme will be like Lou, still bitter about the shows in the 70s. The guy has gone nuts, he thinks everybody that post on getbig is shawn.
I agree with you as well Sgt D....Why cant people just forgive and forget? We are all adults here right?
You people should be supporting the shows and supporting the bodybuilders like you do this getbig board
I for one had a great time at the Colorado Pro...the expo and the show.
I hope onlyme doesnt think Im Shawn Ray...
Onlyme is a pretty cool guy...so is Shawn...both of them can fight their own battles..that is why Im staying away from each other's fued
But I am only responding to this thread to support the Colorado Pro and what Ive experienced there. To all the people Ive talked to who attended, it is a success and was better than last year. Even a judge I spoke to told me more people attended this year more than last year
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Sgt D said:
I agree with you as well Sgt D....Why cant people just forgive and forget? We are all adults here right?
You people should be supporting the shows and supporting the bodybuilders like you do this getbig board
I for one had a great time at the Colorado Pro...the expo and the show.
I hope onlyme doesnt think Im Shawn Ray...
Onlyme is a pretty cool guy...so is Shawn...both of them can fight their own battles..that is why Im staying away from each other's fued
But I am only responding to this thread to support the Colorado Pro and what Ive experienced there. To all the people Ive talked to who attended, it is a success and was better than last year. Even a judge I spoke to told me more people attended this year more than last year
did you take pics of the expo sluts?
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Even a judge I spoke to told me more people attended this year more than last year
Sure. 150 > 75. ;D
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I took pics of Jamie Eason...she was pretty fine....
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G O A T B O Y.....you are hilarios....there was a lot of people that attanded the expo and the show.
You could have attanded too and supported the show
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Pulllease....Jamie Eason is a very pretty girl....No wonder Lift is crazy about this woman...she is pretty hot!
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I was there at the show that night...there were a lot of people there that night! Not just 100-150...
Why do most of you guys wish this show was a failure? Why didnt you guys come and support the show/support the bodybuilders?
Not calling you a liar bro, but a buddy of mine snapped this pic just moments before the finals started. :o ;D
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Pulllease....Jamie Eason is a very pretty girl....No wonder Lift is crazy about this woman...she is pretty hot!
::)
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Not calling you a liar bro, but a buddy of mine snapped this pic just moments before the finals started. :o ;D
lol..I wonder if that guy is there by mistake?
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It all comes down to this -
We have not seen ONE SINGLE PIC of a crowded expo hall, or a crowded theater.
In a place where tens of thousands of pics are taken of the men onstage, they didn't snap ONE SINGLE PIC to prove the 'haters' wrong?
It's painfully obvious that everyone there was no crowd there.
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Look at the bb.com video.
6 rows max (at center stage). How many you figure a row holds, given the width of the stage?
I'd guess 100-150 people were there total... maybe 200.
Ok, I was actually at the damn show and expo, no the place was not another close to a sell out but at least 1000 were in attendance at the show,the first 6-7 rows were packed but about 35-40% of aprox 3000 seat venue was filled. Saying you can judge with the same degree of acuracy from a streaming video box is ludicrous.
Goat- did you go to the actual show. Oh, I have no vested interested in this show or the IFBB, s am pretty objective
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Ok, I was actually at the damn show and expo, no the place was not another close to a sell out but at least 1000 were in attendance at the show,the first 6-7 rows were packed but about 35-40% of aprox 3000 seat venue was filled. Saying you can judge with the same degree of acuracy from a streaming video box is ludicrous.
Goat- did you go to the actual show. Oh, I have no vested interested in this show or the IFBB, s am pretty objective
pics ???
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Sgt D said:
I agree with you as well Sgt D....Why cant people just forgive and forget? We are all adults here right?
You people should be supporting the shows and supporting the bodybuilders like you do this getbig board
I for one had a great time at the Colorado Pro...the expo and the show.
I hope onlyme doesnt think Im Shawn Ray...
Onlyme is a pretty cool guy...so is Shawn...both of them can fight their own battles..that is why Im staying away from each other's fued
But I am only responding to this thread to support the Colorado Pro and what Ive experienced there. To all the people Ive talked to who attended, it is a success and was better than last year. Even a judge I spoke to told me more people attended this year more than last year
Well said Jeremy and I enjoyed meeting you and had a great time at the show. I even got to shake Shawns hand as he was at a booth near he night show entrance. I don't know much about only me, he seems like an ok guy with a big background in BB, but it may be years ago for him, who knows. No matter, I for one will be at the Col pro next yr .
Hey J how about posting that pic of us again.
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Ok, I was actually at the damn show and expo, no the place was not another close to a sell out but at least 1000 were in attendance at the show,the first 6-7 rows were packed but about 35-40% of aprox 3000 seat venue was filled. Saying you can judge with the same degree of acuracy from a streaming video box is ludicrous.
Goat- did you go to the actual show. Oh, I have no vested interested in this show or the IFBB, s am pretty objective
crowded place, monster success... not ONE picture? And video shows empty place.
pathetic you'd expect us to believe this with NO EVIDENCE. Not only that, but evidence to the contrary.
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It was a pleasure meeting you and your gilfriend , Howie!!
I just wished wished more people on getbig would support the shows and support other getbiggers...
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can someone confirm this............. a pic please....
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Ok here is a pic of last year's Colorado Pro Expo!!
Remember more people attended this year than last...
You guys should have told me you wanted a pic of the people from the audience..I would have done so...
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How come no one said Vince took first place. I love it how he still manages to get the crowd going when poses by going down into the crowd. A true IFBB Pro
ROFL..fucking classic
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lol..I wonder if that guy is there by mistake?
He was, he went up to my buddy and asked when the tranny show started. My buddy told him that this was a bodybuilding show. The guy got pissed and started saying something about "that damn Sean Raye" under his breath. :o
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He was, he went up to my buddy and asked when the tranny show started. My buddy told him that this was a bodybuilding show.
Same thing. :-X
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The fact is, The Colo will be up and running next year! Even bigger, even better!
The auditorium and expo sales, exceeded all our expectations!
The haters weren't even there! Hahahahaha
And Keith, why are you too frightened to show your fat-face at The O this year?
Is it something to do with the word 'family'? LOL
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And Keith, why are you too frightened to show your fat-face at The O this year?
Is it something to do with the word 'family'? LOL
Keith has a very leitimate excuse for not going the the O in Las Vegas.... he lives in Hawaii and the airlines don't have seats big enough to accommodate him. I mean, sure, he could hitch a ride on a ship but it would take forever to get to the mainland, and it's not realistic to expect him to do that.
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Anybody on here can tell that Hank Wood is not Shawn.
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The fact is, The Colo will be up and running next year! Even bigger, even better!
The auditorium and expo sales, exceeded all our expectations!
The haters weren't even there! Hahahahaha
And Keith, why are you too frightened to show your fat-face at The O this year?
Is it something to do with the word 'family'? LOL
Look it was a good show with a decent albiet not capacity crowd. I loved the event and will go back next yr.
I have never seen such interest in a bb shows attendance ...ever. Plus, the only "crowd experts" seem to be the ones that never went to the show...wtf?
For those that missed it, you lost out. It was a top line up, an expo with lots of vendors and plenty of chances to mingle, get samples, etc. The NPC event was decent and the pro figure was packed with a boatload of sexy, fit gals.
I can't fathom why some here want to crack on THIS particular show.? Howard
Howard
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You guys call yourselves fans?
Support the shows and support the bodybuilders!!
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You guys call yourselves fans?
Support the shows and support the bodybuilders!!
Some here actually think that the true fan of the future will watch it on a lil' streamin' video box while they stay at home and play pocket pool. Ok, I don't go to all the shows, but I do try to go to a few when I can.
I also think it is a GREAT idea to have the video feed for those who can't go. However, to say the video feed is just like being there is wacky in my opinion.
I have also read where some only go to the PJ and are too cheap to buy a ticket to the nightshow.
That is pretty cheap and not much of a fan if you ask me.
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HowieW said
Some here actually think that the true fan of the future will watch it on a lil' streamin' video box while they stay at home and play pocket pool. Ok, I don't go to all the shows, but I do try to go to a few when I can.
I also think it is a GREAT idea to have the video feed for those who can't go. However, to say the video feed is just like being there is wacky in my opinion.
I have also read where some only go to the PJ and are too cheap to buy a ticket to the nightshow.
That is pretty cheap and not much of a fan if you ask me.
I agree with you brother!!
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Anybody on here can tell that Hank Wood is not Shawn.
thanks for the info shawn
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thanks for the info shawn
Enough already.
Ron already said along time ago that none of the pros have gimmick accounts. This sex offender Mr. Cortisol needs to be locked up.
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Most of the people in this thread isnt bodybuilding fans.
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Most of the people in this thread isnt bodybuilding fans.
aren't
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aren't
lol
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I never read that and how does he know. Hank Wood is Sean most of the time but it IS a shared account. It might not be on Seans computer so the IP is different, but he does use it allot. THATS A FACT. Only a blind idiot would see something different.
According to you, everybody is shawn. Let it go already ::)
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All right - enough of this bull. First of all, it amazes me that people who don't even come to the expos, support bodybuilding, or care post condeming it. Enough is enough on that, but at least get the facts straight.
First of all, attendance was down at the Colorado Pro bodybuilding show over last year, I estimate by about 200-300 tickets. Whether or not that was the webcast's fault or just lack of 'characters' or excitement in the sport it something that is needed to be discussed in a discussion. However, the theater seats close to 5,000 people. It is called the Wells Fargo Theater, and the first question when you enter it is just how big it is.
So the actualy numbers, based on what I saw, was about 1,200-1,300 for the night show, depending on what time it was. Yes, for the pro's that number dwindled as NPC families left, but they were there.
Now, you want to doubt me go ahead. But anyone that was there will verify it. I took video backstage and kept coming up front, and at one time, it was easier to sit about 15 rows up from the front and to the side so I didn't bother anyone.
So stop with the pathetic 100 count. It that theater, it would be exactly ONE row across. Get with the program, starting support the sport, and cut the crap.
Now, as for the expo. The numbers for the expo actually increases this year, and they charged $5 to get in. That was pretty interesting. Several of the booths ran out of products Saturday by 2-3, which wasnt too cool, but they were happy.
The problem I see is that while the expo's are increases in attendance, the IFBB Pro shows are not, hence that is what we should figure out. Do the webcasts hurt? Are more people interesting in meeting competitors than seeing them? And so on...
So stop with the bull numbers. I know what they were. I was there. So were a numnber of people.
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Lets face it Ron, bodybuilding is a dead end street. Until you rid the 'sport' of its drug abuse, its nothing more than a 'can you top this' competetion among those who have insecure body images, drug habits, or the overtly homo. You can stand on a balcony and take a piss on someone just to claim that its raining warm water, but urine is still urine no matter how you call it.
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I could see going to an expo...but not a show
Not sure why, but watching a grown man greased up on stage dancing around is not exactly exciting.
I could see attending an expo & just shooting the shit with some guys....but thats about it.
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This was taken at 5:45 pm - before the NPC evening show started. People continued to fill the seats and yes, when the cameras rolled at the pro show there were not as many people in the seats. Why I stated this earlier that the people running the cameras should not pan into the audience as it is not a true representation of the night show. There are very few die hard pro male bodybuilding fans. The ticket sales are clearly with the NPC shows.
The face of the IFBB shows are changing and it's going to continue to be a challenge for promoters to make money from these shows. There isn't much incentive for fans to go to a pro show when they can sit at home, have results within a few minutes of the shows, photos with in hours and often times see it live via webcast.
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This was taken at 5:45 pm - before the NPC evening show started. People continued to fill the seats and yes, when the cameras rolled at the pro show there were not as many people in the seats. Why I stated this earlier that the people running the cameras should not pan into the audience as it is not a true representation of the night show. There are very few die hard pro male bodybuilding fans. The ticket sales are clearly with the NPC shows.
The face of the IFBB shows are changing and it's going to continue to be a challenge for promoters to make money from these shows. There isn't much incentive for fans to go to a pro show when they can sit at home, have results within a few minutes of the shows, photos with in hours and often times see it live via webcast.
sure...it's not packed looking....but still quite a few seats filled
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All right - enough of this bull. First of all, it amazes me that people who don't even come to the expos, support bodybuilding, or care post condeming it. Enough is enough on that, but at least get the facts straight.
Ron, on as serious note, how is it that you are surprised about people NOT supporting the shows? What is it that you expect people to do? Realistically how many people on this board or anywhere for that matter can afford to fly to a show? Obviously not many. You can't blame people on this board for not being able to afford to go. My guess is that it would cost someone roughly $2k to fly to a show counting all expenses. Should they give up their family vacation? Should they pull money out of their kids college fund? Some of you guys think that we can just up and go to a show like you guys can. Fact is there are not enough fans in the areas of the cities that they have these show at so they actually need people to come in from other areas, but this is not going to happen for t he reasons that I have stated.
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Ron, on as serious note, how is it that you are surprised about people NOT supporting the shows?
bout time!
This site owner is just just butterin his bread.
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This was taken at 5:45 pm - before the NPC evening show started. People continued to fill the seats and yes, when the cameras rolled at the pro show there were not as many people in the seats. Why I stated this earlier that the people running the cameras should not pan into the audience as it is not a true representation of the night show. There are very few die hard pro male bodybuilding fans. The ticket sales are clearly with the NPC shows.
The face of the IFBB shows are changing and it's going to continue to be a challenge for promoters to make money from these shows. There isn't much incentive for fans to go to a pro show when they can sit at home, have results within a few minutes of the shows, photos with in hours and often times see it live via webcast.
Onlyme=owned
Good find Lift
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This was taken at 5:45 pm - before the NPC evening show started. People continued to fill the seats and yes, when the cameras rolled at the pro show there were not as many people in the seats. Why I stated this earlier that the people running the cameras should not pan into the audience as it is not a true representation of the night show. There are very few die hard pro male bodybuilding fans. The ticket sales are clearly with the NPC shows.
The face of the IFBB shows are changing and it's going to continue to be a challenge for promoters to make money from these shows. There isn't much incentive for fans to go to a pro show when they can sit at home, have results within a few minutes of the shows, photos with in hours and often times see it live via webcast.
so you are saying that the IFBB by itself would draw 10 people, 3 of whom are there because they got lost?
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Strange that all this talk about nobody going and two weeks later a pic shows up.
I took the picture and didn't find it until today. Sorry, I'll try to post audience photos sooner for you vs. competitor and candid shots.
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Hey moron how am I owned. I have nothing to do with it and don't care either way. Strange that all this talk about nobody going and two weeks later a pic shows up. But I am in your mind so much that you have to show this pic to show I am wrong. Dude maybe I owned you. It was everything to you to prove there were people at the show. What other shows is this neccessary. Instead of bullshittin just post real pics and don't inflate numbers.
haha like taking candy from an infant.
You claim only a few people was at the event(even though you wasn't there) but that wasn't the case was it? Hence the reason why you was "owned" ::)
(-4x-6)(-2x2+7x+8)
=8x3-16x2-74x-48 You understand now ::)
Too easy
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Ron, on as serious note, how is it that you are surprised about people NOT supporting the shows? What is it that you expect people to do? Realistically how many people on this board or anywhere for that matter can afford to fly to a show? Obviously not many. You can't blame people on this board for not being able to afford to go. My guess is that it would cost someone roughly $2k to fly to a show counting all expenses. Should they give up their family vacation? Should they pull money out of their kids college fund? Some of you guys think that we can just up and go to a show like you guys can. Fact is there are not enough fans in the areas of the cities that they have these show at so they actually need people to come in from other areas, but this is not going to happen for t he reasons that I have stated.
I agree.. I'm in Australia and I don't see the reason to fork out around 5k minimum to fly to US, stay in a hotel, go to the expo, go to the night show and fly back.
If you're paying, that'll be a different story.
So it's my right to flame in here
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This was taken at 5:45 pm - before the NPC evening show started. People continued to fill the seats and yes, when the cameras rolled at the pro show there were not as many people in the seats. Why I stated this earlier that the people running the cameras should not pan into the audience as it is not a true representation of the night show. There are very few die hard pro male bodybuilding fans. The ticket sales are clearly with the NPC shows.
The face of the IFBB shows are changing and it's going to continue to be a challenge for promoters to make money from these shows. There isn't much incentive for fans to go to a pro show when they can sit at home, have results within a few minutes of the shows, photos with in hours and often times see it live via webcast.
Did I just hear this right?
Isaac just admitted there was shit attendance at the Colorado Pro IFBB men's finals!
(although he tried to downplay it by talking about what great attendance the NPC show got, and showing a pic of the same)
Don't worry Isaac... we already knew... BB.com's camera doesn't lie. We already saw. ;D
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Ron, on as serious note, how is it that you are surprised about people NOT supporting the shows? What is it that you expect people to do? Realistically how many people on this board or anywhere for that matter can afford to fly to a show? Obviously not many. You can't blame people on this board for not being able to afford to go. My guess is that it would cost someone roughly $2k to fly to a show counting all expenses. Should they give up their family vacation? Should they pull money out of their kids college fund? Some of you guys think that we can just up and go to a show like you guys can. Fact is there are not enough fans in the areas of the cities that they have these show at so they actually need people to come in from other areas, but this is not going to happen for t he reasons that I have stated.
Good post!
It's a point I've made before.....hmm....vacati on or bbing show? Tough one. ::)
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Ron, on as serious note, how is it that you are surprised about people NOT supporting the shows? What is it that you expect people to do? Realistically how many people on this board or anywhere for that matter can afford to fly to a show? Obviously not many. You can't blame people on this board for not being able to afford to go. My guess is that it would cost someone roughly $2k to fly to a show counting all expenses. Should they give up their family vacation? Should they pull money out of their kids college fund? Some of you guys think that we can just up and go to a show like you guys can. Fact is there are not enough fans in the areas of the cities that they have these show at so they actually need people to come in from other areas, but this is not going to happen for the reasons that I have stated.
I understand the fact that people are not willing to fly for every show, but about the towns in which there is enough people around within a 3-4 hours drive. If there was a pro show in your area, why wouldnt you go and support it? What does the sport need to make more people go to the pro shows? Is it the webcast? It is the negativity? Is it the lack of the fans being more positive and supporting the shows? Why are this years shows have less audience than last years show so far? Is it the webcast? Is it the lack of excitement, characters? What would it take for more people to start supporting to shows as they did in the past. And I am not talking about the Arnold or the Olympia, where they always have records crowds.
Isaac just admitted there was shit attendance at the Colorado Pro IFBB men's finals!
Like I said before, the audience was less for the IFBB show than it was for the NPC show, but still there was a good audience there. I will see if I have some audience pictures, and if I can get the video back, perhaps some audience shots too.
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Many promoters of bodybuilding contests don't consider the main draw which is the open men's contest. What we used to do was have the open men first on at the prejudging and then last at the main show. This way they didn't have to wait around all day and could have the afternoon off to relax before the evening show. That is fine if you don't have that many watching the show. The worst case of this was the old AAU Mr America contests that had the show after the weightlifting was over. At one contest the bodybuilding show was on after midnight! Something wrong there.
If the promoters use the amateur contests to draw an audience then perhaps the open show can be held when there is the biggest audience. When family and friends come to see a contest many are disappointed their hero didn't win and leave the show afterwards. Thus, the crowd dwindles in the evening. Promoters try to include too many events and divisions and the whole thing takes way too much time and the crowd gets bored and disappears. Obviously they have to cater to everyone and the pros get on last. I know I didn't want to watch all those fitness routines and had to wait for the pros to finally appear on the webcast.
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I understand the fact that people are not willing to fly for every show, but about the towns in which there is enough people around within a 3-4 hours drive. If there was a pro show in your area, why wouldnt you go and support it? What does the sport need to make more people go to the pro shows? Is it the webcast? It is the negativity? Is it the lack of the fans being more positive and supporting the shows? Why are this years shows have less audience than last years show so far? Is it the webcast? Is it the lack of excitement, characters? What would it take for more people to start supporting to shows as they did in the past. And I am not talking about the Arnold or the Olympia, where they always have records crowds.
Like I said before, the audience was less for the IFBB show than it was for the NPC show, but still there was a good audience there. I will see if I have some audience pictures, and if I can get the video back, perhaps some audience shots too.
Well personally I go to too more shows every year than I care too. ;D I have spent my share of money over the years and have made the NPC some jack.
Maybe it is the webcast, but I would not think that it would hold too many people back. Sadly bb shows are not a poplular as they used to be. There is a lot of negativity that is attaching itself to ths sport that just wasn't there years ago. Who knows, but I don't see it getting any better anytime soon. :'(
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I understand the fact that people are not willing to fly for every show, but about the towns in which there is enough people around within a 3-4 hours drive. If there was a pro show in your area, why wouldnt you go and support it? What does the sport need to make more people go to the pro shows? Is it the webcast? It is the negativity? Is it the lack of the fans being more positive and supporting the shows? Why are this years shows have less audience than last years show so far? Is it the webcast? Is it the lack of excitement, characters? What would it take for more people to start supporting to shows as they did in the past. And I am not talking about the Arnold or the Olympia, where they always have records crowds.
Like I said before, the audience was less for the IFBB show than it was for the NPC show, but still there was a good audience there. I will see if I have some audience pictures, and if I can get the video back, perhaps some audience shots too.
this "sport" is screwed
the writing is on the wall
far too many pros get gravely ill and can't compete or nearly live
this "sport" is the most unhealthy there has ever been since the gladiators
most of the physically healthy guys are mentally ill
what the hell is the appeal of this "sport"?
if I told my normal friends that I was going to attend a bodybuilding show, they would get worried about me
facts are facts
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Years ago I remember there being tons of teenage competitors when I competed. Now I don't see too many at all? I also see a lot of guys who used to compete years ago coming back and competing in the masters class. I guess they miss the old days. Now what the hell does that tell you? It says that not many guys are wanting to compete. The funny this is that there are thousands more young kids who lift now than years ago. You would think that we would have tons of teens who want to get up on stage. What the hell is going on then?
I talked to a top pro recentley who will remain nameless who might not ever compete again. He basically is sick of all the crap and politics (his words) in the IFBB. It's sad to see this happening. The IFBB better rethink their position on a lot of things. Things are changing and not for the better.
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Years ago I remember there being tons of teenage competitors when I competed. Now I don't see too many at all? I also see a lot of guys who used to compete years ago coming back and competing in the masters class. I guess miss the old days. Now what the hell does that tell you? It says that not many guys are wanting to compete. The funny this is that there are thousands more young kids who lift now than years ago. You would think that we would have tone of teens who want to get up on stage. What the hell is going on then?
I talked to a top pro recentley who will remain nameless who might not ever compete again. He basically is sick of all the crap and politics (his words) in the IFBB. It's sad to see this happening. The IFBB better rethink their position on a lot of things. Things are changing and not for the better.
bodybuilding is close to reaching its nadir
the 90s were the top and will never even be approached ever
the consequences of that era are clear- the human body cannot withstand all the gear that type of physique requires
the ones that can withstand it are simply lucky or maybe the consequences will just be seen a few years down the road
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It's the damn fuckin drugs and mass monsters. People slaved their lives with drugs just to get freakin huge.
Too much money spent on food, drugs but earning only half of the expenditure. Your balance always running in red and it's damn tough to secure contracts.
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I for one DO NOT believe it's the "webcasts" that are hurting attendance. Let's face it, the interest you isn't there, as far as pro bbing goes. Also, there is NO exciment in comp. bbing. No points scored, no touchdowns, no hr's, no dunks, no scoreboard = no excitement for the crowds.
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If there was a pro show in your area, why wouldnt you go and support it? What does the sport need to make more people go to the pro shows? Is it the webcast? It is the negativity? Is it the lack of the fans being more positive and supporting the shows?
mass monsters, bad judging, the IFBB coming across as petty and vindictive
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I took the picture and didn't find it until today. Sorry, I'll try to post audience photos sooner for you vs. competitor and candid shots.
yeah, with all the sexual deviants in that crowd with cameras and taking pictures you'da thunk someone would have at least recorded and overall crowd shot. :-\
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Many promoters of bodybuilding contests don't consider the main draw which is the open men's contest. What we used to do was have the open men first on at the prejudging and then last at the main show. This way they didn't have to wait around all day and could have the afternoon off to relax before the evening show. That is fine if you don't have that many watching the show. The worst case of this was the old AAU Mr America contests that had the show after the weightlifting was over. At one contest the bodybuilding show was on after midnight! Something wrong there.
If the promoters use the amateur contests to draw an audience then perhaps the open show can be held when there is the biggest audience. When family and friends come to see a contest many are disappointed their hero didn't win and leave the show afterwards. Thus, the crowd dwindles in the evening. Promoters try to include too many events and divisions and the whole thing takes way too much time and the crowd gets bored and disappears. Obviously they have to cater to everyone and the pros get on last. I know I didn't want to watch all those fitness routines and had to wait for the pros to finally appear on the webcast.
I feel Vince brings up some good points here.
I think these Expo things with Powerlifting, Bikini girls etc are just a pain in the arse really.
It makes the day go on for fucking ever.
I run my own show back here in Aust & I make sure it's short & sweet. About 5hrs is the maximum for me. Even this could be considered too long.
Take other 'normal' sports for instance. Would you go & watch a football match, hockey game or basketball game if it meant that you would be there for 10-12hrs? I doubt it. Not many people can sustain interest in something for that amount of time. So what makes BBing promoters think that people can sustain interest in a BBing show for that long? Especially considering at a Pro level, you are pretty much seeing the same competitors all the time. Their placings rarely change, so what we are doing in reality is just going along to watch an 'exhibition' of BBers. The competition is virtually non-existent.
Where's the excitement in that. It's just as easy to watch the DVD or check out the photos.
Another point I would like to ad is the fact that all the Pro shows are held in the US, except for Tony Doherty's Aussie Pro show. Why aren't there Pro shows in Europe any more? The European crowds would kill to see the worlds best BBers in action. They are noisy & passionate, as are the Aussie fans. The Pros are always well received down here, but I feel in America, the crowds are a bit spoiled & tend to take Pro shows a bit for granted, knowing full well that there is a show not too far away from them.
No one is really going to travel overseas to watch a Pro show, bar maybe the Arnold or the Olympia.
Another thing I would like to bring up is presentation. Without sounding too harsh, most Pro BBers posing routines are as boring as bat-shit, with the exception of one or two, such as Melvin, Darrem etc. For professional athletes, I expect to see a bit more 'bang-for-my-buck'. They just lumber around the stage with their hand cupped to one ear, expecting us to praise them just for walking out on the stage. The routines of yester-year leave todays routines for dead. This is one area of Pro BBing that has gone backwards in a big way.
What was once one of the most exciting part of a Pro contest is now just a drag.
These guys are getting paid to do this, surely they can put a bit more effort into their presentation. I see much more entertaining & creative routines at local 'natural' BBing shows back here in Aust.
Just my thoughts.
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If there was a pro show in your area, why wouldnt you go and support it? What does the sport need to make more people go to the pro shows? Is it the webcast? It is the negativity? Is it the lack of the fans being more positive and supporting the shows? Why are this years shows have less audience than last years show so far? Is it the webcast?
Are you as stupid as you sound or just as greedy as I am assuming?
- YES, this is a rhetorical question as I believe the answer is easily obvious for your more intelligent members. ::)
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The Colo will be back in 2008. Bigger and better!
The haters of Sean ( i wont mention names) wanted this show to fail, to prove some moot point! Sorry, it was a great success!
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The Colo will be back in 2008. Bigger and better!
The haters of Sean ( i wont mention names) wanted this show to fail, to prove some moot point! Sorry, it was a great success!
Ok Sean ::)