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Title: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 19, 2007, 05:40:34 AM
I am curious about butt development; is it possible to isolate the muscles in the butt to make them bigger? Are squats and kick backs the best exercises to increase mass and tone?

Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 06:43:38 AM
I am curious about butt development; is it possible to isolate the muscles in the butt to make them bigger? Are squats and kick backs the best exercises to increase mass and tone?

Mimi6
First question: Squats/leg presses and stiff legged deadlifts
Second question: Squats and lose the kickbacks and replace with skull crushers  :)

PB
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 06:44:46 AM
what are skull crushers?
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 06:48:29 AM
what are skull crushers?
Laying EZ bar extentions.

PB
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 06:56:55 AM
Laying EZ bar extentions.

PB

What are laying EZ bar extensions?
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 07:27:47 AM
What are laying EZ bar extensions?
Well I guess i'll have to bring you to a room with a bench and i'll have to show you now, won't I Jag ?  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 19, 2007, 07:28:19 AM
What are laying EZ bar extensions?

I have the same question; I always was told that for women the kickbacks were the best. I want to round, shape and tone my butt. I am also trying to develop my hips & thighs, to become more curvy.

Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 07:29:01 AM
Well I guess i'll have to bring you to a room with a bench and i'll have to show you now, won't I Jag ?  ;D  ;D  ;D

Does it in any way involve ... a spanking?  :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 07:54:16 AM
Does it in any way involve ... a spanking?  :P
In many ways shapes and forms with my wrist wraps  ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Faust on June 19, 2007, 08:09:21 AM
First question: Squats/leg presses and stiff legged deadlifts
Second question: Squats and lose the kickbacks and replace with skull crushers  :)

PB
I think she means "leg kickback".

Kickback -> triceps ex
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/DBKickback.html
Skullcrusher -> better for triceps mass
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/BBLyingTriExtSC.html

I wouldn't really rely on those "leg kickbacks".
I feel squats and lunges are essential if you want overall development of legs.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 08:17:51 AM
In many ways shapes and forms with my wrist wraps  ;D

Eeeeeeek! I prefer bare palms (without callouses)
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 08:32:09 AM
Eeeeeeek! I prefer bare palms (without callouses)
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)
Nah...i'm Calloused.  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 08:37:21 AM
Nah...i'm Calloused.  :)

I would think wrist straps would kind a sting a bit   :'(
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
I would think wrist straps would kind a sting a bit   :'(
Nah...there worn. My other ones with the metal loop attached to them would  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 19, 2007, 09:05:10 AM
Nah...there worn. My other ones with the metal loop attached to them would  :)

um... well as long as it won't sting.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Laura Lee on June 19, 2007, 10:29:03 AM
First question: Squats/leg presses and stiff legged deadlifts
Second question: Squats and lose the kickbacks and replace with skull crushers  :)

PB
She's talking "donkey kicks" not tricep kick-backs PB.   ;)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 19, 2007, 10:54:20 AM
I have the same question; I always was told that for women the kickbacks were the best. I want to round, shape and tone my butt. I am also trying to develop my hips & thighs, to become more curvy.

Mimi6

Step ups and stair climbing, lunges too
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Playboy on June 19, 2007, 11:03:05 AM
She's talking "donkey kicks" not tricep kick-backs PB.   ;)
A "donkey kick"? Oh boy.

PB
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 20, 2007, 10:06:51 AM
donkey punches make your neck grow!  ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: xxxLinda on June 20, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
Cycling is good.  Works your thighs and calves too, if you do it properly.  Move the seat up as high as your full leg stretched to the pedal.

Good cardio too.
Few miles a day (to work and back?)


xL
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 20, 2007, 05:31:43 PM
heavy squatting,

or eat a lot of greasy ribs, thatll ut the junk in your trunk ;)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 20, 2007, 08:15:05 PM
heavy squatting,

or eat a lot of greasy ribs, thatll ut the junk in your trunk ;)

david paul... you are posting on the girl board? Why now? Just curious...

I would say hack squats, dead lifts, and many backward hacks...
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 20, 2007, 08:29:30 PM
david paul... you are posting on the girl board? Why now? Just curious...

I would say hack squats, dead lifts, and many backward hacks...
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 20, 2007, 08:47:40 PM
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

That's your answer ... Christopher Marlowe...  ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 20, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
I would be happy to provide some more specific information about my glute/leg training when I have some time in the next couple of weeks, once I get settled into a normal routine again following my competition last week.   I am still out of town (for work this week) and haven't even unpacked yet, let alone caught up with everything.   :P

For starters, though, there are THREE exercises that are ESSENTIAL for glute training and should be incorporated into every woman's leg workout IMO.  These are the three must-do's, the critical ones that will shape the glutes and hams...

1.  Free squats.  Not Smith Squats.  Just you and the barbell with whatever weight you can stand on there.  Good squats, nice and deep.  There are several variations that can be applied.

2.  Walking Lunges.   Not standing in one place.  Put the barbell on your shoulders and lunge up and down the gym.  Take the barbell outside and lunge down the street.

3.  Straight leg deadlifts.  Isolate the glutes and hams.  Don't bend down so far that you engage the lower back more than the ass.

If you only have time to do three exercises for your legs/glutes, make these the three you do.  They are better than anything else.

Also try to do as much of your cardio as possible on a stair climber.

:)

Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 20, 2007, 10:03:23 PM
I still think my way is waaay more funner.  :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: xxxLinda on June 21, 2007, 05:12:18 AM
I still think my way is waaay more funner.  :P

Did you say that regular strenuous sex is the best glute muscle islolater?

xxxL
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 21, 2007, 05:15:28 AM
I still think my way is waaay more funner.  :P

Right, in no way should wieght training detract from Jags program, it should add to it! ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 21, 2007, 06:06:48 AM
That's your answer ... Christopher Marlowe...  ;D

on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace sobriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: xxxLinda on June 21, 2007, 06:11:20 AM
define your glutes you mean?

xL



or the 5th of November...
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 21, 2007, 06:15:44 AM
define your glutes you mean?

xL



or the 5th of November...

Would you prefer a lie or the truth?
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: xxxLinda on June 21, 2007, 06:20:25 AM
Your truth, please, dp?

I still advocate bicycling.  If you get a decent bike and move the seat up as high as your legs extend and get toe clips and pedal with your tip toes, you will work every muscle from the waist down and get good cardio on the way.  Breathe in and out.

xL

yeah, no, I'm kidding, this is the 2nd best way.  Strenuous sex is the best.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 21, 2007, 06:24:29 AM
on this most auspicious of nights, permit me then, in lieu of the more commonplace sobriquet, to suggest the character of this dramatis persona

De debil you say! Hey I like you better up here.  You're being wasted down there on the V.  Stick around.  :)

In general... I don't think strenuous sex does all THAT much for the glutes.  You'd have to go on and on... 4 sets of squats are faster and more efficient.  However, the quads do benefit from that um.... burn.  :D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Butterbean on June 21, 2007, 06:24:49 AM
I would be happy to provide some more specific information about my glute/leg training when I have some time in the next couple of weeks, once I get settled into a normal routine again following my competition last week.   I am still out of town (for work this week) and haven't even unpacked yet, let alone caught up with everything.   :P

For starters, though, there are THREE exercises that are ESSENTIAL for glute training and should be incorporated into every woman's leg workout IMO.  These are the three must-do's, the critical ones that will shape the glutes and hams...

1.  Free squats.  Not Smith Squats.  Just you and the barbell with whatever weight you can stand on there.  Good squats, nice and deep.  There are several variations that can be applied.

2.  Walking Lunges.   Not standing in one place.  Put the barbell on your shoulders and lunge up and down the gym.  Take the barbell outside and lunge down the street.

3.  Straight leg deadlifts.  Isolate the glutes and hams.  Don't bend down so far that you engage the lower back more than the ass.

If you only have time to do three exercises for your legs/glutes, make these the three you do.  They are better than anything else.

Also try to do as much of your cardio as possible on a stair climber.

:)


Thanks Rip.  Great info!



Also try to do as much of your cardio as possible on a stair climber.


This part depressed me though I hate the stair climber :(  but I'll do it!

Rip's glutes  :o   :D  :



Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 21, 2007, 06:26:26 AM
Gorgeous Glutes!!!  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: xxxLinda on June 21, 2007, 06:30:25 AM
Your truth, please, dp?

I still advocate bicycling.  If you get a decent bike and move the seat up as high as your legs extend and get toe clips and pedal with your tip toes, you will work every muscle from the waist down and get good cardio on the way.  Breathe in and out.

xL

yeah, no, I'm kidding, this is the 2nd best way.  Strenuous sex is the best.


I'm only talking about my life style >>>every day for all your life exersizes. 
10 reps squats work too if you need a fast pick-up the glutes.
xL


nice ass.....
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 21, 2007, 06:31:13 AM
Your truth, please, dp?

I still advocate bicycling.  If you get a decent bike and move the seat up as high as your legs extend and get toe clips and pedal with your tip toes, you will work every muscle from the waist down and get good cardio on the way.  Breathe in and out.

xL

yeah, no, I'm kidding, this is the 2nd best way.  Strenuous sex is the best.

Honestly this one they call rip, has a sound routine stated in her post.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: davidpaul on June 21, 2007, 06:32:53 AM
De debil you say! Hey I like you better up here.  You're being wasted down there on the V.  Stick around.  :)

In general... I don't think strenuous sex does all THAT much for the glutes.  You'd have to go on and on... 4 sets of squats are faster and more efficient.  However, the quads do benefit from that um.... burn.  :D

I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none.  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 21, 2007, 08:37:24 AM
Thank you guys and girls so much for all of the kind words about my butt!    :D

As promised, I will start a thread in the next few days with alot more specific information and details about my leg and glute training. 

Until then, make the Stair Climber your new best friend, and be sure to incorporate those three exercises I recommended. 
This will get you started on developing the coveted "Apple Ass."

 :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Chamorrita on June 21, 2007, 04:47:53 PM
You can also add split squats (single or 2-legged), step-ups, reverse hyperextensions or if there is a glute/ham bench you can do glute/ham drops.  There are many things you can do for a great butt.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 21, 2007, 05:38:37 PM
You can also add split squats (single or 2-legged), step-ups, reverse hyperextensions or if there is a glute/ham bench you can do glute/ham drops.  There are many things you can do for a great butt.  Good luck.


Ya, the reverse hypers and GHR machine is hardcore gym stuff, damn good. Wont find that stuff in a lot of comercial gyms. Run some stadium or building stairs too...
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2007, 09:24:40 PM
Did you say that regular strenuous sex is the best glute muscle islolater?

xxxL


Doesn't have to be strenuous, ...just regular.
Not saying is the best for glutes... just that it might help with the thighs.
And even if it's not the most effective,
...couldn't hurt to include it in one's quest for overall fitness.  :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2007, 09:28:42 PM
In general... I don't think strenuous sex does all THAT much for the glutes.

Au contraire Deedee, it helps the mind. if it helps the mind, it helps the body, cause you can't properly build your body when your mind is all stressed out. Ipso facto... it's a most beneficial thing. Work with me on this one.

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You'd have to go on and on...

...and this is a problem how?  ???

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4 sets of squats are faster and more efficient.  However, the quads do benefit from that um.... burn.  :D

Ah but Deedee, ...when it comes to sex... faster is definitely NOT better.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 21, 2007, 09:32:06 PM
Thank you guys and girls so much for all of the kind words about my butt!    :D

Wow, ...that was your butt?  very nice.  :)

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As promised, I will start a thread in the next few days with alot more specific information and details about my leg and glute training. 

Until then, make the Stair Climber your new best friend, and be sure to incorporate those three exercises I recommended. 
This will get you started on developing the coveted "Apple Ass."

 :)

I'm inspired.  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 22, 2007, 04:23:46 AM
Wow, ...that was your butt?  very nice.  :)

I'm inspired.  :)


Yes, thanks very much!

And I agree, strenuous sex is always a good way to shape the legs and glutes....esp if you are sure to do it standing up, bent over, and stay on your tip toes.   :D

I am now modding the women's BB section, so I will start a glute/leg training thread over there as soon as I get a chance.

:)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Migs on June 22, 2007, 04:57:10 AM
Great job Rip!  you are much better than..well nevermind not sure how to say it nicely.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 22, 2007, 04:57:45 AM

Yes, thanks very much!

And I agree, strenuous sex is always a good way to shape the legs and glutes....esp if you are sure to do it standing up, bent over, and stay on your tip toes.   :D

I am now modding the women's BB section, so I will start a glute/leg training thread over there as soon as I get a chance.

:)


Oh- I like you even more ;D,  Throw some spike heels on with that standing training too, great for quads, calfs and ass!! Dont believe me anyone? Try it in front of a big mirror and run video, and check it! :P
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 22, 2007, 09:26:20 AM
Au contraire Deedee, it helps the mind. if it helps the mind, it helps the body, cause you can't properly build your body when your mind is all stressed out. Ipso facto... it's a most beneficial thing. Work with me on this one.


Well, and I did forget to take into account how much the "culmination" of prolonged sexual congress can also contribute to well-shaped glutes and calves too, although in an isometric kinda way.  :)  I stand corrected.

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...and this is a problem how?  ???

Ah but Deedee, ...when it comes to sex... faster is definitely NOT better.

I was talking about efficiency... but I see your point.  On the other hand, there's something to be said for fast and furious.  In the end, it's like ice cream.  It's all good.  ;)

Usually, if given the choice between squatting and hacking or doing something called the "wheelbarrow"  I think I'd pick the latter.  :D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 22, 2007, 09:31:13 AM
I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none.  :)


Shakespeare AND Christopher Marlowe?  :-*

You're a cultivated debil... de best kind!  :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 22, 2007, 10:29:34 AM
david paul... you are posting on the girl board? Why now? Just curious...

I would say hack squats, dead lifts, and many backward hacks...

I am sorry; but I do not know how to perform hack squats. How do you perform backward hack squats?

Thanks,
Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Deedee on June 22, 2007, 10:37:21 AM
I am sorry; but I do not know how to perform hack squats. How do you perform backward hack squats?

Thanks,
Mimi6

There seem to be different names for this exercise, but I always call them backward hacks.  Not all hacksquat machines are built to allow this variation on the movement, but basically rather than getting on it facing out from the machine, you position yourself so that you face the pad.  It's usually best to have someone knowledgeable help you out the first time or two so as to make sure you're positioned well, and also guys will definitely stop and watch this exercise being performed  :-\  However, it really isolates the glutes, hams, and is a nice change from squats, stiff deads, etc... but as you can see, Rip had some great suggestions, so all total, there are a lot of effective exercises that you can rotate to keep from getting bored. 
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 22, 2007, 10:47:40 AM
I would be happy to provide some more specific information about my glute/leg training when I have some time in the next couple of weeks, once I get settled into a normal routine again following my competition last week.   I am still out of town (for work this week) and haven't even unpacked yet, let alone caught up with everything.   :P

For starters, though, there are THREE exercises that are ESSENTIAL for glute training and should be incorporated into every woman's leg workout IMO.  These are the three must-do's, the critical ones that will shape the glutes and hams...

1.  Free squats.  Not Smith Squats.  Just you and the barbell with whatever weight you can stand on there.  Good squats, nice and deep.  There are several variations that can be applied.

2.  Walking Lunges.   Not standing in one place.  Put the barbell on your shoulders and lunge up and down the gym.  Take the barbell outside and lunge down the street.

3.  Straight leg deadlifts.  Isolate the glutes and hams.  Don't bend down so far that you engage the lower back more than the ass.

If you only have time to do three exercises for your legs/glutes, make these the three you do.  They are better than anything else.

Also try to do as much of your cardio as possible on a stair climber.

:)



Thanks, I will incorporate these into my regimen. If you have any other tips and suggestions, please keep them coming.

Thanks,
Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Butterbean on June 22, 2007, 11:02:41 AM
Thanks, I will incorporate these into my regimen. If you have any other tips and suggestions, please keep them coming.

Thanks,
Mimi6

Mimi, be sure to keep an eye on the Female Bodybuilding Board.  Ripitupbaby was recently made a mod there (congrats Rip :) ) and she plans to post some workouts/advice etc.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 22, 2007, 11:07:11 AM
Cardio,Cardio,Cardio..Run the motor...
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 22, 2007, 11:10:28 AM
Mimi, be sure to keep an eye on the Female Bodybuilding Board.  Ripitupbaby was recently made a mod there (congrats Rip :) ) and she plans to post some workouts/advice etc.

Thanks, I will do that.

Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 22, 2007, 11:12:28 AM
Thanks, I will incorporate these into my regimen. If you have any other tips and suggestions, please keep them coming.

Thanks,
Mimi6


Sure, no problem!

I am modding the women's BB board now, and I do have intentions of starting a glute/leg training thread as soon as I have time to catch up on everything from last week and type out some more detailed information.  So check back on that board over the next few days...I will try to get something started with more details, and we can go from there.

Re. hack squats and reverse hacks....these are done on a hack squat machine.  It's the one that is like an angled sled that you stand in, lean your back against a pad, and have pads/weights resting on your shoulders.  You then slide up and down in a squatting motion with the pad against your back.   Ask someone at your gym if they have a hack squat machine.  This is a great exercise, but it can be tough on the knees IMO, and it does work the quads too....so go very light at first with the weight until you are comfortable with the motion.  Doing it reverse is an advanced exercise and can be difficult to keep balance, etc. so master it forwards first.

Glute-ham drops are SUPER HARDCORE...probably one of the hardest exercises ever to master, and props to any woman who can do them with ease!!  You can set up a bench and do them using the knee pads on the lat pulldown machine if you have the balls to do so...I'm pretty sure I don't though!  I am always afraid that I will fail and smash my face on the ground.   :D
I would not recommend GHD's for a beginner or even intermediate lifter.  Layne Norton posted a video of him doing these on Youtube...you may want to search his name and look for his clip of the GHD's.  He sets it up with the bench and the lat pulldown machine like I described...it's INSANE!   :o

Reverse hyperextensions are good too, although I don't like to use much weight when I do them, and I still feel like they work alot of lower back, even when I squeeze my glutes.

Many options, many variations.  
I recommend the three exercises I listed earlier in this thread in terms of the must-do fundamentals, and then add one or two different exercises to each workout to keep things interesting.

I'll try to lay out a few sample workouts for you in the thread I start in the women's BB section.

:)

Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Butterbean on June 22, 2007, 11:19:44 AM



I'll try to lay out a few sample workouts for you in the thread I start in the women's BB section.

:)


I've got some questions I'll save for that thread :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ~flower~ on June 22, 2007, 11:23:11 AM
I've got some questions I'll save for that thread :)

Yes, like what is a Glute-ham drop?

 edit: I am going to look for that video
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ~flower~ on June 22, 2007, 11:26:45 AM
yeah, I will get right on these  ::)


  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 22, 2007, 11:41:10 AM
yeah, I will get right on these  ::)


  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)


HAhahahaa  I told you they were super hardcore!!   That video blows me away every time I see it!  And he does them with weights in his hands!!    :o

Like I said, it's a very advanced exercise... I am actually too scared that I will smash my teeth out, so I don't do them.  But damn, they are impressive, and they will work the shit out of your glutes and hams like you wouldn't believe!

Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Butterbean on June 22, 2007, 12:11:20 PM



  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)

We've done these but used a ball to "bounce" off of when we were parallel to the floor.  We haven't done them since our hardcore trainer left though ;D

I have NEVER seen anyone do them w/o the ball for assistance and safety and NEVER seen anyone use any weight w/them at all. :o
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on June 22, 2007, 01:11:24 PM

Sure, no problem!

I am modding the women's BB board now, and I do have intentions of starting a glute/leg training thread as soon as I have time to catch up on everything from last week and type out some more detailed information.  So check back on that board over the next few days...I will try to get something started with more details, and we can go from there.

Re. hack squats and reverse hacks....these are done on a hack squat machine.  It's the one that is like an angled sled that you stand in, lean your back against a pad, and have pads/weights resting on your shoulders.  You then slide up and down in a squatting motion with the pad against your back.   Ask someone at your gym if they have a hack squat machine.  This is a great exercise, but it can be tough on the knees IMO, and it does work the quads too....so go very light at first with the weight until you are comfortable with the motion.  Doing it reverse is an advanced exercise and can be difficult to keep balance, etc. so master it forwards first.

Glute-ham drops are SUPER HARDCORE...probably one of the hardest exercises ever to master, and props to any woman who can do them with ease!!  You can set up a bench and do them using the knee pads on the lat pulldown machine if you have the balls to do so...I'm pretty sure I don't though!  I am always afraid that I will fail and smash my face on the ground.   :D
I would not recommend GHD's for a beginner or even intermediate lifter.  Layne Norton posted a video of him doing these on Youtube...you may want to search his name and look for his clip of the GHD's.  He sets it up with the bench and the lat pulldown machine like I described...it's INSANE!   :o

Reverse hyperextensions are good too, although I don't like to use much weight when I do them, and I still feel like they work alot of lower back, even when I squeeze my glutes.

Many options, many variations.  
I recommend the three exercises I listed earlier in this thread in terms of the must-do fundamentals, and then add one or two different exercises to each workout to keep things interesting.

I'll try to lay out a few sample workouts for you in the thread I start in the women's BB section.

:)



I plan to look at the video clip, and thanks for the advice; it really helps.

Mimi6
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 22, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
yeah, I will get right on these  ::)


  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)

 :o

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/FrightenedMouse.gif)

Holy Cow!!! I got a charley horse just watching that. I don't think you could pay me to do those.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 22, 2007, 04:00:52 PM
Hey it wouldnt matter if they paid me ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: CQ on June 27, 2007, 02:21:03 AM
This may sound negative, but it is the truth. A level of acceptance is also key. It's all good to strive for more, but one's genetic structure is somewhat set. If you have a majorly "flat ass" you will never actually huge rounded glutes per se. If you have a very large rounded butt, you will never actually take it down to a flat one [if anyone wants to do that]. Sorry, but I just say this as where I am from a bubble butt is considered ideal and I have women with totally flat asses rolling into my gym aspiring for a J-LO butt, and realistically it won't happen. But training hard and making the butt look as good as it can, for your particular structure, and being happy with the results is key. IMO, no matter what your structure..petite, thin, tall, short whatever...if you get your body into great shape it will look good.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Princess L on June 27, 2007, 12:25:57 PM
yeah, I will get right on these  ::)


  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)

That is some incredible strength.  He performs them so smoothly.  I've tried doing the same thing, but I found it hard on the knees  :-\  Maybe I need more padding  :P

I've been trying to get the owner of the gym to get one of these for years :-\
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ~flower~ on June 27, 2007, 12:29:41 PM
I think we might have something like that? Usually people are using it for lower back?  maybe ours is not adjustable like that is?

  I can hope it isn't!! Then I can have an excuse not to try them!!      ;D
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Chamorrita on June 27, 2007, 12:45:09 PM
Our bench is a little different but that's the one.  If you move the foot plates way forward and you bring your knees up a little on top of the padding, you'll add more difficulty.  Then you can elevate the rear of the bench on a step for even greater difficulty.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 29, 2007, 02:02:43 AM
Our bench is a little different but that's the one.  If you move the foot plates way forward and you bring your knees up a little on top of the padding, you'll add more difficulty.  Then you can elevate the rear of the bench on a step for even greater difficulty.

Shush Woman!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: ripitupbaby on June 29, 2007, 07:29:40 AM

That is some incredible strength.  He performs them so smoothly.  I've tried doing the same thing, but I found it hard on the knees  :-\  Maybe I need more padding  :P

I've been trying to get the owner of the gym to get one of these for years :-\

I think we might have something like that? Usually people are using it for lower back?  maybe ours is not adjustable like that is?

  I can hope it isn't!! Then I can have an excuse not to try them!!      ;D

I wish we had one of these at our gym!!  The one we have is for lower back/hamstring hyper-extentions but not adjustable for the G-H drops.

You can start by working on this exercise right on the floor if you have someone to help you.  Just lay on the floor on your stomach and have someone hold your feet like you would if you were doing sit-ups. 
It's a good way to start because you don't have far to go if you fail and crash, and you are less likely to smash your teeth out if your face hits the floor...been there, done that.    :D

BTW, please check out the Glute/Lower Body Training Thread I started on the Women's BB Board...and feel free to post any additional questions, recommendations, or training advice in that thread as well. 

 :)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 29, 2007, 07:53:42 AM
http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/82626glute.html
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 29, 2007, 10:31:49 AM
I wish we had one of these at our gym!! 

 :o   :o   :o   :o   :o

This board is full of lunatics!
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 29, 2007, 10:34:15 AM
:o   :o   :o   :o   :o

This board is full of lunatics!

You just noticed? ::)
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 29, 2007, 01:33:32 PM
You just noticed? ::)

And you're one of the biggest lunatics of them all!!!  >:(

How dare you post that link? Now, we all know where to buy one of those infernal machines!

You've taken away all our excuses. Shame on you!  >:(   >:(

Where's Deedee's paddle? Someone needs to turn your bottom bright red!  >:(  >:(  >:( 
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 29, 2007, 01:38:53 PM
mY WIFE pinches it REAL hard often.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Faust on June 29, 2007, 01:42:04 PM
yeah, I will get right on these  ::)


  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=ham+raise)
Lol.

I'm gonna start with one negative motion and have two spotters help me up!

Train hard or train at home!
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 29, 2007, 01:52:38 PM
http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=167&pid=581

Go w/ Quality. Damn good site here.

Also.. 
 http://www.infinityfitness.com/videos/exer.htm   
Click on Glute ham raise for a nice Vid clip.
Theres also a stability ball version.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on June 29, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
Ya know, ...if mimi6 wasn't seeking help in a serious thread, ...I'd have to slap you 6 ways from Sunday!
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on June 30, 2007, 01:02:33 PM
Ya know, ...if mimi6 wasn't seeking help in a serious thread, ...I'd have to slap you 6 ways from Sunday!

The 2nd one is Scott Mendelsons (World Rec. Bench holder, 1010lbs) site I believe. The exercise VIds are top quality.

Hey that Deluxe Elite GHR is only about $1500! :'( 
But Prolly cheaper that one of the STUPID LV bags wifey getS so hot over. :-X
I dont know how much them bags cost, she wont tell me and I DONT WANT TO KNOW!! >:(
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: 24KT on July 01, 2007, 11:35:31 AM
The 2nd one is Scott Mendelsons (World Rec. Bench holder, 1010lbs) site I believe. The exercise VIds are top quality.

Hey that Deluxe Elite GHR is only about $1500! :'( 
But Prolly cheaper that one of the STUPID LV bags wifey getS so hot over. :-X
I dont know how much them bags cost, she wont tell me and I DONT WANT TO KNOW!! >:(

That's where you're wrong. LV comes in more economical at $1495. Aren't you glad you now know?
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on July 01, 2007, 11:53:06 AM
That's where you're wrong. LV comes in more economical at $1495. Aren't you glad you now know?

OMG! >:( ;D  How much for the big LV open top pick Pocket delight modle?  SHe hide's new ones for awhile every time she returns from asia... & Chanell... Guci.. D&G..
Thinks I wont notice ::) Ha!

Oh well, she cant tell another new rifle from all my others...

Well SHit, I love the DG clothing, prolly better not price that...
Prada nice too..  The other thing is She likes to watch fassion stuff, and dont care I ogle the modles.
Front row at a show like Victorias would be kick ass
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Mimi6 on July 05, 2007, 06:46:10 PM
Ya know, ...if mimi6 wasn't seeking help in a serious thread, ...I'd have to slap you 6 ways from Sunday!

I am looking for serious advice, but I will be honest. Some of the sidebar stuff is just downright funny. So, keep it coming; can record slapping someone 6 ways from Sunday? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mimi
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on July 06, 2007, 06:25:05 AM
lunges are a good idea, perhaps us some dumbells for extra resistance

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/DBLunge.html

make sure you go deep.
Title: Re: Is it possible to isolate the glute muscles?
Post by: trab on July 07, 2007, 05:47:26 PM
I am looking for serious advice, but I will be honest. Some of the sidebar stuff is just downright funny. So, keep it coming; can record slapping someone 6 ways from Sunday? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mimi

Ya know, I kinda like to get a big hand full of girl glutes and squeeze them time to time.
That count as Isolate?