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If golf is consider a sport ,and golfers athletes ::), I say bodybuilding is a sport and bodybuilders are athletes Discuss Hope this help :)
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I call it a sport cuz its to long to say: "Delusional, insecure,muscle pumper" :-[
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If golf is consider a sport ,and golfers athletes ::), I say bodybuilding is a sport and bodybuilders are athletes Discuss Hope this help :)
monster gh gut on john daly
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If golf is consider a sport ,and golfers athletes ::), I say bodybuilding is a sport and bodybuilders are athletes Discuss Hope this help :)
Apparently you've never golfed
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Apparently you've never golfed
It takes about as much skill as "Pinball" and half as interesting.
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It takes about as much skill as "Pinball" and half as interesting.
thats why the highest paying athlete is a golfer
and the number 2 highest payed athlete is another golfer
lmao
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If golf is consider a sport ,and golfers athletes ::), I say bodybuilding is a sport and bodybuilders are athletes Discuss Hope this help :)
Golf = Skill
Bodybuilding = No Skill
John Daly and Phil Mickelson can walk 18 or 36 holes without passing and shooting a below par round
Bodybuilding........well, this should pretty much sum it up..........
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thats why the highest paying athlete is a golfer
and the number 2 highest payed athlete is another golfer
lmao
Society accepts fat lazy bastards like themselves.....its no wonder people give em money.
"Hey I can eat 3 gallons of ice cream and swing a 3oz pole, 18 times."
Amazing. ::)
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the top golfers are all very fit.
John Daly, arguably the most talented golfer, is very unfit and this is reflected in his results over the last 10 years.
John Daly is like the Paul Dillett of golf. Commentator Gary McCord uses this analogy often.
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Society accepts fat lazy bastards like themselves.....its no wonder people give em money.
"Hey I can eat 3 gallons of ice cream and swing a 3oz pole, 18 times."
Amazing. ::)
If it's so easy, then grab some clubs and go make a few million........you have to remember that golf is not a team sport and they have to rely on themselves, Daly probably has just as much raw talent as Tiger, he just let his demons get to him, if this dude could clean his act, he would be second only to Tiger.
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If it's so easy, then grab some clubs and go make a few million........you have to remember that golf is not a team sport and they have to rely on themselves, Daly probably has just as much raw talent as Tiger, he just let his demons get to him, if this dude could clean his act, he would be second only to Tiger.
Im just talking shit. But serious i dont have time to go golfing for a million dollars....tomorrows LEGDAY!! hahahha
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thats why the highest paying athlete is a golfer
and the number 2 highest payed athlete is another golfer
lmao
Yes, thanks to endorsements.....not JUST because of his "golf" salary/earnings.
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Athlete implies talent or a skill in something, bodybuilding requires neither of these two. Plus, an athlete can still be a professional without excessive drug use, in bodybuilding you can't.
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Golf IS NOT a sport. It's like fishing. A pastime for crusty old folks (or lazy fat asses), who can no longer even fuck, can golf and fish.
And while Golf requires skills, it does NOT require athletic ability. The closest thing ot an athlete in pro golf, is Tiger of course.
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Im just talking shit. But serious i dont have time to go golfing for a million dollars....tomorrows LEGDAY!! hahahha
LOL!
I'd be more than happy to give up a years worth of training for a years worth of playing on the PGA tour but then again I love playing golf. Even if I placed last (and I would) I would be guaranteed at least $10-15g's!!
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Golf = Skill
Bodybuilding = No Skill
John Daly and Phil Mickelson can walk 18 or 36 holes without passing and shooting a below par round
Bodybuilding........well, this should pretty much sum it up..........
HAHAHAHA!
Guess who has the gut? ;D
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poker is a sport, right? you could have 1 arm and no legs and wear an eye patch with your lung respirator and still win the world series of poker every year.
Or is it a game?
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poker, bowling, darts, archery,golf, tennis, and many more are those borderlined sports that are considered pussy sports
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HAHAHAHA!
Guess who has the gut? ;D
LMAO.....they both do, ain't that a kick in the ass ;D!!
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poker, bowling, darts, archery,golf, tennis, and many more are those borderlined sports that are considered pussy sports
Yet they all make more money than bodybuilding and are shown on ESPN!!
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true dat true dat bb isnt a sport btw
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A sport is a competition that requires athleticism.
Golf barely qualifies.
Bodybuilding barely doesn't.
Fitness competition qualifies.
Figure competition does not.
Ice Dancing and Diving qualify.
Poker, Darts, and Bowling do not.
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A sport is a competition that requires athleticism.
Golf barely qualifies.
Bodybuilding barely doesn't.
Fitness competition qualifies.
Figure competition does not.
Ice Dancing and Diving qualify.
Poker, Darts, and Bowling do not.
Don't forget Skill, balance and conditioning, Golf qualifies more than bodybuilding.
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I love how you all have your own definition of the word "sport" and totally ignore the one that is in the dictionary ::)
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Yet they all make more money than bodybuilding and are shown on ESPN!!
what is your point?
hockey isn't on espn
bodybuilding doesn't pay as well because the fan base isn't as large as other sports
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ESPN is a sports network. They cover all kinds of events that I don't even consider sports. And even with that, they DO NOT cover Bodybuilding. What does that tell you. If they cover Chess and Spelling Bees but not Bodybuilding
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whats more of a sport powerlifting, strongman, bodybuilding???
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I love how you all have your own definition of the word "sport" and totally ignore the one that is in the dictionary ::)
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Daly has a better shot at becoming a bodybuilder than Coleman does becoming a golfer.
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what is your point?
hockey isn't on espn
bodybuilding doesn't pay as well because the fan base isn't as large as other sports
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Your right, I forgot.....it's on FOX sports ::)
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whats more of a sport powerlifting, strongman, bodybuilding???
Strongman by far!
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Your right, I forgot.....it's on FOX sports ::)
wrong again
it's on the versus channel
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Daly has a better shot at becoming a bodybuilder than Coleman does becoming a golfer.
what does this have to do with the dictionary's definition of the word "sport" ???
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ESPN is a sports network. They cover all kinds of events that I don't even consider sports. And even with that, they DO NOT cover Bodybuilding. What does that tell you. If they cover Chess and Spelling Bees but not Bodybuilding
they cover what gets ratings
notice how the nfl gets far more coverage than hockey?
the stanlye cup finals barely got mentioned on PTI or around the horn
far more people care about chess and the spelling bee than bodybuilding
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Basically, anything that involves POSING is not a sport. That includes modeling, bodybuilding, and "vogue-ing", although vogueing comes closest.
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Basically, anything that involves POSING is not a sport. That includes modeling, bodybuilding, and "vogue-ing", although vogueing comes closest.
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flexing all of your muscles simultaneously for long periods of time is physical exertion and since it is during competion bodybuilding is a sport
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it's on the versus channel
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WTF is the "versus" channel??
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they cover what gets ratings
notice how the nfl gets far more coverage than hockey?
the stanlye cup finals barely got mentioned on PTI or around the horn
far more people care about chess and the spelling bee than bodybuilding
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ESPN doesn't cover much Soccer and it has 10 times more fans worldwide than football. And the NFL only gets allot of coverage in the USA. I am pretty sure hockey blows them away in Canada
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WTF is the "versus" channel??
it used to be the outdoor life network
they are becoming more of a sports channel and still aren't available in parts of the country
guess what they showed about a year ago
a tape delay of the arnold classic 8)
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it used to be the outdoor life network
they are becoming more of a sports channel and still aren't available in parts of the country
guess what they showed about a year ago
a tape delay of the arnold classic 8)
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FOX, ESPN, "versus" it's a sports network isn't it??
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soccer is insane its a religion a way of life to the rest of the world a country in a cival war will actually sign a peace treaty to see there team play its actually a very beautiful thing :o :'( :o
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ESPN doesn't cover much Soccer and it has 10 times more fans worldwide than football. And the NFL only gets allot of coverage in the USA. I am pretty sure hockey blows them away in Canada
espn caters to the US market
TSN is canada's version of espn
notice how "NFL Live" is now a year round show on espn?
it's because people in the US can't get enough of the NFL
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FOX, ESPN, "versus" it's a sports network isn't it??
it is now becoming one
last year it was the outdoor life netwrok and the only sport they showed was hockey, now they are showing boxing and I think extreme sports
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flexing all of your muscles simultaneously for long periods of time is physical exertion and since it is during competion bodybuilding is a sport
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I don't consider hitting and holding a pose for 3-5 seconds a "long period of time." And the level of physical exertion is minimal. Jumping rope for the same amount of time is more physically exhaustive. Bodybuilding is much more akin to a beauty pageant, except with MORE training and LESS drugs!
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I don't consider hitting and holding a pose for 3-5 seconds a "long period of time." And the level of physical exertion is minimal. Jumping rope for the same amount of time is more physically exhaustive. Bodybuilding is much more akin to a beauty pageant, except with MORE training and LESS drugs!
they pose longer than that and it takes skill to pose well
dillet's lack of posing skills hurt him
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LMAO.....they both do, ain't that a kick in the ass ;D!!
Exactly......the irony.... :-\ ;D
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poker is a sport, right? you could have 1 arm and no legs and wear an eye patch with your lung respirator and still win the world series of poker every year.
Or is it a game?
It's a game/hobby. Nothing other than skill (at cards/reading people/etc.) required for that shit.
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I don't consider hitting and holding a pose for 3-5 seconds a "long period of time." And the level of physical exertion is minimal. Jumping rope for the same amount of time is more physically exhaustive. Bodybuilding is much more akin to a beauty pageant, except with MORE training and LESS drugs!
Thank you. Well said, Ed!
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what is your point?
hockey isn't on espn
bodybuilding doesn't pay as well because the fan base isn't as large as other sports
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Used to be. It's just that hardly ANYONE gives ashit about it here in the US of A. Still sport though.
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whats more of a sport powerlifting, strongman, bodybuilding???
I think some powerlifter may a have a shot at qualifying. I've seen some who couldn't walk a mile.....
The strong men, ala WSM, yes. Definitely athletes. Have you seen how these guys train?
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Used to be. It's just that hardly ANYONE gives ashit about it here in the US of A. Still sport though.
and bodybuilding use to be on espn too and hardly ANYONE cares about bodybuilidng
hockey and bodybuilding have much in common :)
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and bodybuilding use to be on espn too and hardly ANYONE cares about bodybuilidng
hockey and bodybuilding have much in common :)
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Very true.
But that's where the similarities end. One is played by tough athletes on ice, the other takes place on a stage, while almost nude, oiled up and in front of a crowd of gay men.
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Very true.
But that's where the similarities end. One is played by tough athletes on ice, the other takes place on a stage, while almost nude, oiled up and in front of a crowd of gay men.
fighters are almost nude, what does that have to do with anything?
sporting events draw thousands and i'm sure some of them are gay
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fighters are almost nude, what does that have to do with anything?
sporting events draw thousands and i'm sure some of them are gay
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Yes, but the fighters are there to fight (doing something manly), no flexed, oiled up and pumped up for a corwd of men.
Of course ALL events will draw some gays. But I'd bet bbing is the biggest gay-crowd draw......just a hunch.
You are in some serious denial, Earl.
Do you "compete"?
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You guys obviously hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders. So why are you on this board?
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Comp. pro bbing is a circus.
I'm just here for the laughs.
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I never realized this board was so entertaining that it attracted people who hate bodybuilding too...wow...you need to get out more.
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Does anyone think beauty pageant contestants are athletes? They diet, train , tan and choreograph a routine for a contest. A bodybuilding competition is no different then a beauty pageant ( minus the beauty). BB has turned into a freak spectacle.
I repsect bb's. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work. You need to have great response to harmones, and good genetics. That said bb is not a sport. No matter how you slice it. BB takes no athletic ability. BB's eat, sleep, take juice, and train. You do not need superior hand eye coordination to bb. You do not need superior vision and speed to bb. You do not need superior athletic ability to bb etc etc.
While bb's have a ton of dedication, how do they have more then your average NFL player? 16 games a year. NFL players compete with some of the worlds best athletes week in and week out. They dont get to train for 2 hours then come home for a meal and a nap. They train while nursing injury and recovering from every sunday. NFL players play in the snow.. They play in the rain. They play hurt, and they play sick. They don't eat every 2 hours then take a shit. You need superior athletic ability to 99 percent of the population to sniff a starting down in the nfl.
I respect bodybuilding. I just cant call them pro athletes considering the circumstances! I am a ironage fan, so I am sure some of you will hate this post. How could anyone mention Ronnie/Jay in the same sentence with Micheal Jordan and keep a straight face.
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A sport is a competition that requires athleticism.
Golf barely qualifies.
Bodybuilding barely doesn't.
Fitness competition qualifies.
Figure competition does not.
Ice Dancing and Diving qualify.
Poker, Darts, and Bowling do not.
Agree, but Golf is a close call. I would still consider golf a game, and not a sport.
The level of athleticism is increasing, which probably will mean golf could be considered a sport in a few years, although just barely.
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Yes, but the fighters are there to fight (doing something manly), no flexed, oiled up and pumped up for a corwd of men.
Of course ALL events will draw some gays. But I'd bet bbing is the biggest gay-crowd draw......just a hunch.
You are in some serious denial, Earl.
Do you "compete"?
no i don't compete
bodybuilding is only gay if you want it to be gay
I personally think george michael and his music are gay ;D
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Does anyone think beauty pageant contestants are athletes? They diet, train , tan and choreograph a routine for a contest. A bodybuilding competition is no different then a beauty pageant ( minus the beauty). BB has turned into a freak spectacle.
I repsect bb's. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work. You need to have great response to harmones, and good genetics. That said bb is not a sport. No matter how you slice it. BB takes no athletic ability. BB's eat, sleep, take juice, and train. You do not need superior hand eye coordination to bb. You do not need superior vision and speed to bb. You do not need superior athletic ability to bb etc etc.
While bb's have a ton of dedication, how do they have more then your average NFL player? 16 games a year. NFL players compete with some of the worlds best athletes week in and week out. They dont get to train for 2 hours then come home for a meal and a nap. They train while nursing injury and recovering from every sunday. NFL players play in the snow.. They play in the rain. They play hurt, and they play sick. They don't eat every 2 hours then take a shit. You need superior athletic ability to 99 percent of the population to sniff a starting down in the nfl.
I respect bodybuilding. I just cant call them pro athletes considering the circumstances! I am a ironage fan, so I am sure some of you will hate this post. How could anyone mention Ronnie/Jay in the same sentence with Micheal Jordan and keep a straight face.
it is not the same as a beauty pagent because there is no physical exertion involved
just because football players are superior athletes doesn't make bodybuilders non athletes
I don't compare ronnie to michael jordan and I also don't compare tiger woods to michael jordan
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it is not the same as a beauty pagent because there is no physical exertion involved
So your telling me that women in beauty pagents don't workout and diet??
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poker, bowling, darts, archery,golf, tennis, and many more are those borderlined sports that are considered pussy sports
tennis?????? mofo..have u ever done anything athletically in your life? thought so.
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You guys obviously hate bodybuilding and bodybuilders. So why are you on this board?
Not true. While it may be true for some here, I personally love bbing. The eating, training, the lifestyle. I was once a fan of comp. bbing, then I realized what a shady industry this is, and what these guys do........and changed my view entirely.
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tennis?????? mofo..have u ever done anything athletically in your life? thought so.
Agreed. Tennis is a serious sport. Just about the best non-contact cardio you could do and lots of skill, power, finesse, endurance, and athleticism all wrapped up in one.
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John Daily ,is the "epitome " of what an athlete should look like ::),To play golf you need skills ,precision, talent ,knowledge ,same as a heart surgeon ,walking 18 holes is not hard at all ,unless you are Squadfather, Do you consider these two athletes ? .(OK ,now I'm going to the gym, I don't want to look like Squadfather ;D)
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So your telling me that women in beauty pagents don't workout and diet??
i'm saying when they stand on stage there is no physical exertion involved
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John Daily ,is the "epitome " of what an athlete should look like ::),To play golf you need skills ,precision, talent ,knowledge ,same as a heart surgeon ,walking 18 holes is not hard at all ,unless you are Squadfather, Do you consider these two athletes ? .(OK ,now I'm going to the gym, I don't want to look like Squadfather ;D)
Markus Ruhl and MANY other european bodybuilders smoke as well!!
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What athletic skill does Jay Cutler posses that you or I do not????????????
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What athletic skill does Jay Cutler posses that you or I do not????????????
superior posing skills
his skills were unpolished at the 2001 O, that is why he lost
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superior posing skills
Any monkey can be taught to do bodybuilding poses. It's not kata.
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What athletic skill does Jay Cutler posses that you or I do not????????????
You could think of posing as a slow dance at a dance competition.
Or slow ice skating routine at an ice skating competition.
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Any monkey can be taught to do bodybuilding poses.
what was paul dillet's problem then?
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what was paul dillet's problem then?
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He's a bodybuilder, not an athlete.
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He's a bodybuilder, not an athlete.
he's both
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he's both
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If that makes your little hypermasculine heart feel better.
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If that makes your little hypermasculine heart feel better.
I just go by the facts 8)
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You could think of posing as a slow dance at a dance competition.
Or slow ice skating routine at an ice skating competition.
Ice Skating is a sport and they are athletes, Ice Skaters possess all of the attributes of REAL athletes.
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superior posing skills
AAAaaaaahahahahahahahaha ..........you're joking right??
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Ice Skating is a sport and they are athletes, Ice Skaters possess all of the attributes of REAL athletes.
Seriously, is that your rebuttal?
Bodybuilding is a sport and they are athletes, Bodybuilders possess all of the attributes of REAL athletes.
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I guess the old adage of dumb physical trainer applies here.
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AAAaaaaahahahahahahahaha..........you're joking right??
see 2001 olympia
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Seriously, is that your rebuttal?
Bodybuilding is a sport and they are athletes, Bodybuilders possess all of the attributes of REAL athletes.
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I guess the old adage of dumb physical trainer applies here.
Tell you what, find any pro bodybuilder at Milo's gym (since you seem to know everyone) bring him to one of my camps, if he can last one day I'll put up a grand......and to make it easy, they can go against my high schoolers!!
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I thought bodybuilders were mirror athletes!
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Tell you what, find any pro bodybuilder at Milo's gym (since you seem to know everyone) bring him to one of my camps, if he can last one day I'll put up a grand......and to make it easy, they can go against my high schoolers!!
See, there you go again. Stupid rebuttal.
Tell you what, find any pro golfer at Pebblebeach, bring him to one of my camps, if he can last one day I'll put up a grand......and to make it easy, they can go against my high schoolers!!
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see 2001 olympia
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What happened at this Olympia. Did they do something different than all the others. DId they mix in some type of "ATHLETIC" competition. Just wondering
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See, there you go again. Stupid rebuttal.
Tell you what, find any pro golfer at Pebblebeach, bring him to one of my camps, if he can last one day I'll put up a grand......and to make it easy, they can go against my high schoolers!!
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Don't know golfers at pebble beach, besides, this isn't about Golfers (read the title of the thread) it's wether bodybuilder are athletes!!
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Don't know golfers at pebble beach, besides, this isn't about Golfers (read the title of the thread) it's wether bodybuilder are athletes!!
Yeah, see, if I have to explain myself to you then that defeats the purpose of the exercise. If you can't figure it out yourself, then I've won.
Clearly this debate is over.
I won.
Thank you. Please tip your waiter.
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Don't know golfers at pebble beach, besides, this isn't about Golfers (read the title of the thread) it's wether bodybuilder are athletes!!
this isn't about Golfers (read the title of the thread) it's wether bodybuilder are athletes!!
It is about golfers ,I hate when they call golfers athletes (Tiger Wood ,world's best paid athlete)They are not athletes ,just like bodybuilders aren't.
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Yeah, see, if I have to explain myself to you then that defeats the purpose of the exercise. If you can't figure it out yourself, then I've won.
Clearly this debate is over.
I won.
Thank you. Please tip your waiter.
No, not really, when a pro can come to one of my camps (or any camp) and I put them through ONE DAY of proving that they can handle strength, agility and CONDITIONING then you've one. This debate clearly cannot be settled on this or any board. As a matter of fact, I might be able to arrange Tony Gonzalez (a real athlete) to come down just so he can get some laughs in, I'm sure he'd get a kick out of it!!
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Ice Skating is a sport and they are athletes, Ice Skaters possess all of the attributes of REAL athletes.
As much as I hate to admit it, yes, skating is a sport. As gay as their routines may appear, they do require athleticism.......
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I thought bodybuilders were mirror athletes!
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Old man made a funny!
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According to Yates, bodybuilders are athletes
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For starters I wanna state that I had a brief afair with professional tennis so I'm somewhat qualified to cast an opp on athletics. Can any of u numnuts explain me how a bodybuilder who benches 400 for reps, squats 5-600 lbs for reps, and deadlifts 5-600lbs is not an athelete? besides displaying their work on stage did u forget what happened in the gym?...So before u start explaining how u were juve camp record setters or highschool superstars , sit tight and take it from me...bb is as much an athletic endeavour as any other sport, sometimes even more so. Golf is more of a game like bowling, darts or pool.
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For starters I wanna state that I had a brief afair with professional tennis so I'm somewhat qualified to cast an opp on athletics. Can any of u numnuts explain me how a bodybuilder who benches 400 for reps, squats 5-600 lbs for reps, and deadlifts 5-600lbs is not an athelete?
1. You don't need to bench 400 for reps or squat 5-600lbs to play tennis.
2. I wasn't talking about strength I was talking about the size of a bodybuilder who might be 5'10 and 280 lbs.
3. If you referring to yourself in your post don't.......I was talking about people who are 8 times your size.
4. I had a 2 year "affair" with professional baseball..........that makes me qualified!!
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bodybuilding is not a sport its a >:( male beauty contest
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What happened at this Olympia. Did they do something different than all the others. DId they mix in some type of "ATHLETIC" competition. Just wondering
jay beat ronnie in the first two rounds but lost the posing rounds to ronnie
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bodybuilding is not a sport its a >:( male beauty contest
what kind of a beauty contest doesn't care about the face ???
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what kind of a beauty contest doesn't care about the face ???
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The kind that likes to see a shredded ass.
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No, not really, when a pro can come to one of my camps (or any camp) and I put them through ONE DAY of proving that they can handle strength, agility and CONDITIONING then you've one. This debate clearly cannot be settled on this or any board. As a matter of fact, I might be able to arrange Tony Gonzalez (a real athlete) to come down just so he can get some laughs in, I'm sure he'd get a kick out of it!!
lol, you just don't get it do you? Goatboy, you're smart, would you please explain it to him? I don't have the patience to spell basic logic out for people.
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there not athletes >:( a regular person who goes to the gym to stay in shape isnt a athlete either the diffrence between a casual gym member and a bodybuilder is bodybuilders take large amounts of drugs, they starve themselfs to obtain single digit fat %, with a few exceptions dont have jobs, many do g4p, stand infront of a few people in a thong and flex,
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there not athletes >:( a regular person who goes to the gym to stay in shape isnt a athlete either the diffrence between a casual gym member and a bodybuilder is bodybuilders take large amounts of drugs, they starve themselfs to obtain single digit fat %, with a few exceptions dont have jobs, many do g4p, stand infront of a few people in a thong and flex,
haha, you guys distinguish an athlete by the fact that they do/do not do g4p? have a job? starve themselves? and/or stand in front of a few people in a thong and flex?
haha, monster logic ::)
I think we're playing with the lesser half of the gene pool in this thread. lol.
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I think we're playing with the lesser half of the gene pool in this thread. lol.
Like you said, this is a bodybuilding forum.
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haha, you guys distinguish an athlete by the fact that they do/do not do g4p? have a job? starve themselves? and/or stand in front of a few people in a thong and flex?
haha, monster logic ::)
I think we're playing with the lesser half of the gene pool in this thread. lol.
well i described everything a bodybuilder does and i see nothing athletic about it
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Like you said, this is a bodybuilding forum.
True.
I just wish the morons would know their place and shut it.
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well i described everything a bodybuilder does and i see nothing athletic about it
K, since you are among the ranks of the sub-100 IQ, I'll explain this to you:
--if a person does not have a job, this does not disqualify them from being an athlete
--if a person does g4p, this does not disqualify them from being an athlete
--if a person starves themselves, this does not disqualify them from being an athlete
--if a person flexes in front of people in a thong, this does not disqualify them from being an athlete
You're dim flame of a mind cannot comprehend the fact that if Lance Armstrong (whom, I'm assuming you believe to be an athlete, correct?) did g4p, he would still be an athlete. And you should also be aware that Lance has no job. And starves himself to get a low bodyfat. So by your criteria, he meets three factors out of 4 that should -- according to your mediocre mind -- disqualify him from being an athlete.
damm ::) I don't even want to get into The Coach and his lack: 20 * 10 is the same as 25 * 8 is the same as 100 * 2 is the same as 50 * 4 is the same as 200 * 1...omg, holy cow!
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1. You don't need to bench 400 for reps or squat 5-600lbs to play tennis.
2. I wasn't talking about strength I was talking about the size of a bodybuilder who might be 5'10 and 280 lbs.
3. If you referring to yourself in your post don't.......I was talking about people who are 8 times your size.
4. I had a 2 year "affair" with professional baseball..........that makes me qualified!!
oh yeah?...tell me ..what did u play and where?...and when/?...u either don't know shit about bb as a sport...not lifting in the gym and writing on the forum...or u don't know squat about sports..as in lyin about baseball. And yes ...i'll come at 240 at your camp and make all your highschool students " my personal bitches"...u don't believe me?...ask my old training partener eric stocz ( nfl- Lions,oilers, etc) u can find his # at west bloomfield sports club in michigan...he's a PT there...he was like u but I made him a believer. ;)
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U didn't understand my first post at all...got nothing to do with tennis. Not to forget : call Phil Heath too...he'll make your students his bitches also...as well as trey brewer would ..i'm sure. " those who can't play...coach! " ...Coach.. ;)
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oh yeah?...tell me ..what did u play and where?...and when/?...u either don't know shit about bb as a sport...not lifting in the gym and writing on the forum...or u don't know squat about sports..as in lyin about baseball. And yes ...i'll come at 240 at your camp and make all your highschool students " my personal bitches"...u don't believe me?...ask my old training partener eric stocz ( nfl- Lions,oilers, etc) u can find his # at west bloomfield sports club in michigan...he's a PT there...he was like u but I made him a believer. ;)
1. I played in the then California Angels AA farm system in Rancho Cucamunga and Salt Lake, Catcher and third base.
2. Two I do know "shit" about bodybuilding.
3. I've seen your pics and although you've got a decent physique but don't think for one second you can even come to comparing yourself to me.
4. Bodybuilding training is lightyears away from athletic training and I was referring to todays pro bodybuilders, you know, the ones that make you look like a war camp refugee.
5. Camps are held on Saturdays in Huntington Beach at Golden West College at 10:00am by appointment only and consists of strongman training, conditioning and agility.
6. Unless you know what f**k you're talking about, stay off the BB bodybuilding boards, your making a fool of yourself!!
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Rather than me coming to your kiddy camp, why don't you come to a mans gym -- Koloseum -- and see if you can get through one of Milos' typical leg workouts.
I've seen only one first-timer out of about 5-7 people who tried get through the whole thing.
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Rather than me coming to your kiddy camp, why don't you come to a mans gym -- Koloseum -- and see if you can get through one of Milos' typical leg workouts.
I've seen only one first-timer out of about 5-7 people who tried get through the whole thing.
LMAO.....kiddy camp??
Athletes (real athletes) use our camps (not the boot camp you see on my site) for mainly to prepare for combines, pre-season and in-season conditioning, military, police and fire recruits as well as seasoned vetrans...........come on out and lets see how many times you can flip a 400lb tire, or pull a sled 40-60 yards with a 200lb load do a farmers carry with a couple of hundred pounds in each hand, then run footwork and agility drills.................. ......by the way, that was just a sample of an obstical course AFTER the 20 min warmups that are a workout in itself..........are you ready??
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Rather than me coming to your kiddy camp, why don't you come to a mans gym -- Koloseum -- and see if you can get through one of Milos' typical leg workouts.
I've seen only one first-timer out of about 5-7 people who tried get through the whole thing.
Sorry dude, torn meniscus, after my surgery and recovery come talk to me!!
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Sorry dude, torn meniscus, after my surgery and recovery come talk to me!!
...course...my dog ate it...
And you still haven't figured out the premise of this debate have you? Still pushing your camp. I know you are proud of your camp and the people at it. Wonderful. But because you are proud of them, does not translate into them being athletes any more than bodybuilders. I went from strongman training (flipping tires, pulling sleds, farmers walk, maclashen stones, was a stand-in in Morocco '98 WSM, etc) to bodybuilding training. Both are just as hard as each other...the only difference are the movements.
Now, I will reiterate -- you and your "side" argue that golfers (baseball players, bowlers, fat slobs, etc...) are athletes. Name ONE golfer who could get through a workout at your camp. There is no such person. Therefore you going on about how your camp is this and that HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS DEBATE. Since you cannot seem to understand this unless I SPELL IT OUT for you (I'm not sure you'll even understand it now), this debate is over and I win by default because my opponent (you) can't comprehend the debate itself.
fuckena brutal sub-100 iq
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...course...my dog ate it...
Now, I will reiterate -- you and your "side" argue that golfers (baseball players, bowlers, fat slobs, etc...) are athletes. Name ONE golfer who could get through a workout at your camp. There is no such person. Therefore you going on about how your camp is this and that HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS DEBATE. Since you cannot seem to understand this unless I SPELL IT OUT for you (I'm not sure you'll even understand it now), this debate is over and I win by default because my opponent (you) can't comprehend the debate itself.
fuckena brutal sub-100 iq
See dude, this is where I think you don't get it, bodybuilding requires no skill and while now only a few golfers are considered fat slobs, they have skills, the majority of the golfers on tour now know that training has to be apart of what they do for a living, Bowlers, I don't give a crap about. Baseball? Can't even believed you lumped that in there with bowling and golf considering it takes more athletic ability and coordination that almost any sport out there.
I understand your argument, but I'm talking about ATHLETIC ABILITY not just throwing weights around!
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See dude, this is where I think you don't get it, bodybuilding requires no skill and while now only a few golfers are considered fat slobs, they have skills, the majority of the golfers on tour now know that training has to be apart of what they do for a living, Bowlers, I don't give a crap about. Baseball? Can't even believed you lumped that in there with bowling and golf considering it takes more athletic ability and coordination that almost any sport out there.
I understand your argument, but I'm talking about ATHLETIC ABILITY not just throwing weights around!
Ahh, cool...now we're getting someplace...
Here I disagree. I do think there is skill involved in bodybuilding. Just the same as I think there is skill involved in strongman. Why? Because it does take years to learn each movement properly. And feel the correct muscle.
1. An example: powercleans. An amature can do shit form powercleans. You are a trainer, so I'm sure you have seen how awful newbies are when they try an exercise for the first time - especially something as complex as powercleans. They need to learn the movement, cadence, and muscles that should be working.
2. It's also analgous to learning to swing a baseball bat (yes, I played baseball too)...anyone can do it. But until you've practiced a bit, your form sucks and you won't be able to hit consistantly or with any power. And just like swinging a bat, your coach will tell you to start out not trying to kill the ball, just make contact...same w/ lifting...start with real light weight -- not because you can't lift more, but so that you learn the movement and feel the proper muscles working.
3. Even "simple" movements like dumbell curls. You can do a dumbell curl 5 or 6 different ways (more, I'm sure) to grow different parts. Only practice, skill, coordination, precise muscle control, and ability will get you to the point where you can do all 5 or 6 variations properly.
4. I've been lifting since I was about 20. Just last month while working out with Silvio did he teach me how to do calf raises properly. JUST LAST MONTH!..after all these years. Yeah, there is a lot of skill and knowledge involved.
Four points as to why I believe bodybuilders are athletes based on your original argument.
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See dude, this is where I think you don't get it, bodybuilding requires no skill and while now only a few golfers are considered fat slobs, they have skills, the majority of the golfers on tour now know that training has to be apart of what they do for a living, Bowlers, I don't give a crap about. Baseball? Can't even believed you lumped that in there with bowling and golf considering it takes more athletic ability and coordination that almost any sport out there.
I understand your argument, but I'm talking about ATHLETIC ABILITY not just throwing weights around!
BB requires a highly trained knowledge of physiology, nutrition, chemistry, training and presentation. It takes YEARS to get it right and some never do.
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HEY COACH...AA IS NOT THE PRO'S BROTHA...I MEANT MLB....BUT ANYWAY...STAY TUNED FOR MY NEWEST PICS...THEY WILL MAKE U LOOK LIKE A STARVING GUANTANAMO BAY REFUGEE. AND PLEASE DO POST A PIC...I BEG OF U.
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HEY COACH...AA IS NOT THE PRO'S BROTHA...I MEANT MLB....BUT ANYWAY...STAY TUNED FOR MY NEWEST PICS...THEY WILL MAKE U LOOK LIKE A STARVING GUANTANAMO BAY REFUGEE. AND PLEASE DO POST A PIC...I BEG OF U.
Hey "brotha" AA is pro ball, it's not the bigs...........but when the bigs call, they sure as hell don't get their players from highschool or college, they go right to the farm systems. I will stay tuned for your newest pics, but I don't understand how different they'll be from last weeks pics.
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HEY COACH...AA IS NOT THE PRO'S BROTHA...I MEANT MLB....BUT ANYWAY...STAY TUNED FOR MY NEWEST PICS...THEY WILL MAKE U LOOK LIKE A STARVING GUANTANAMO BAY REFUGEE. AND PLEASE DO POST A PIC...I BEG OF U.
You are wrong here. AA ball is Pro ball. You are getting paid and you are playing in an organization operated by the MLB. AA ball is right below AAA and when the player in the bigs gets hurt and they call up the AAA player behind him you are now next in line in most cases. I played in a winter instructional league in CA with Minnesota and the A's back in 77 and 78. I wish I could have made it to AA. They had high hopes but I failed. Out high school had allot of pros come out of it. Mike Scott is probably the best known since he won the Cy Young. Mike Colbern (White Sox), Gary Allenson (Red Sox), Mark Lee (Padres), Greg Staffon (Montreal), Wes Clements (Astros), Tracey Jones (Reds) and many more since I graduated. Baseball was my ultimate dream. I remember back when I thought I was going to play in majors I was training at World Gym and told my training partner I wanted to open a gym with the money I made. Too bad that didn't pan out.
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ha ha Milo's gym!!! of coarse you'll get tired doing his stupid workout!! if you get a shotput thrower who just works on strength and explosive exercises and make him run a marathon he'll get sore and tired and what not but if he would to train to be a marathon runner he would be alright if you train for Milo's workout you could get threw it ::)
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"Athretes? Ha! Don't make Kobayashi raugh!"
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There is nothing "athletic" about:
1. Lifting weights...I don't care how heavy they are. If you are stationary and moving them it requires strength...not agility, quickness, speed, etc.
2. Posing in trunks on a stage. I'm not even going to begin to comment on this one.
You will find that a lot of FORMER ATHLETES get into weightlifting/bodybuilding because they like to stay ACTIVE when they are done playing their respective sports, NOT because the activity itself (weight-lifting/bodybuilding) is an athletic endeavor. It's a pageant.
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Sorry dude, torn meniscus, after my surgery and recovery come talk to me!!
Check this out if you'd like to see what your surgery is going to be like...
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Check this out if you'd like to see what your surgery is going to be like...
That was very cool, I had my meniscus done on the opposite knee 3 1/2 years ago, it was just like the video, I had a quick recovery, back at work that same afternoon and back training in about a month, no big deal, the only thing I'm a afraid of is when they go in the find a torn ACL simply because I'm laterally unstable.
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That was very cool, I had my meniscus done on the opposite knee 3 1/2 years ago, it was just like the video, I had a quick recovery, back at work that same afternoon and back training in about a month, no big deal, the only thing I'm a afraid of is when they go in the find a torn ACL simply because I'm laterally unstable.
Thanks. That's a video I did of my cousin Steve. Hopefully the hospital will hire me to do more of other patients and other procedures.
You don't know if your ACL is torn?? Haven't you had an MRI done yet?
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Thanks. That's a video I did of my cousin Steve. Hopefully the hospital will hire me to do more of other patients and other procedures.
You don't know if your ACL is torn?? Haven't you had an MRI done yet?
Yes, I had a the MRI and confirmed the tear on the anterior horn, but also had a grade 1-2 sprain on to the ACL, it could or could not mean a tear.
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1. Sprained ACL
2. Tear of the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus w/parameniscal cyst
3. Degenerative changes of the posterior horn of the lateral meniscus
4. Bone edema and reactive changes involving the proximal tibia as well as the medial and lateral femoral condyles with some cystic within the the lateral tibial plateau.
5. Sprains of the medial and lateral collateral ligaments.
6. Small joint effusion.
Wonderful !!
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1. Sprained ACL
2. Tear of the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus w/parameniscal cyst
3. Degenerative changes of the posterior horn of the lateral meniscus
4. Bone edema and reactive changes involving the proximal tibia as well as the medial and lateral femoral condyles with some cystic within the the lateral tibial plateau.
5. Sprains of the medial and lateral collateral ligaments.
6. Small joint effusion.
Wonderful !!
Ain't it great gettin' old?
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There is nothing "athletic" about:
1. Lifting weights...I don't care how heavy they are. If you are stationary and moving them it requires strength...not agility, quickness, speed, etc.
2. Posing in trunks on a stage. I'm not even going to begin to comment on this one.
You will find that a lot of FORMER ATHLETES get into weightlifting/bodybuilding because they like to stay ACTIVE when they are done playing their respective sports, NOT because the activity itself (weight-lifting/bodybuilding) is an athletic endeavor. It's a pageant.
lifting weights..heavy ones requiers explosive power . Same thing requires to run fast , jump, etc. posing requires muscle endurance, especially when your body is so depleted . I'll take it u have never been on stage or you have never posed.
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lifting weights..heavy ones requiers explosive power . Same thing requires to run fast , jump, etc. posing requires muscle endurance, especially when your body is so depleted . I'll take it u have never been on stage or you have never posed.
if you're good at swimming it also helps.
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I am very lucky because I have never had joint pain. I have lifted heavy since the day I started lifting. No joint problems especially in my upper body. I occasionally will have my right ankle hurt a little but just since the bite. I know the weight is bad but considering, I am pretty good. My knee sometimes fills with water when my lower leg does. That is uncomfortable but goes away. Other than that no real joint problems.
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lifting weights..heavy ones requiers explosive power . Same thing requires to run fast , jump, etc. posing requires muscle endurance, especially when your body is so depleted . I'll take it u have never been on stage or you have never posed.
Posing is not muscle endurance ::)
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Posing is not muscle endurance ::)
OK DR COACH
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I am very lucky because I have never had joint pain. I have lifted heavy since the day I started lifting. No joint problems especially in my upper body. I occasionally will have my right ankle hurt a little but just since the bite. I know the weight is bad but considering, I am pretty good. My knee sometimes fills with water when my lower leg does. That is uncomfortable but goes away. Other than that no real joint problems.
ha ha your #1 enemy is gravity
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ha ha ruhl is wearing a fanny pack
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LMAO.....kiddy camp??
Athletes (real athletes) use our camps (not the boot camp you see on my site) for mainly to prepare for combines, pre-season and in-season conditioning, military, police and fire recruits as well as seasoned vetrans...........come on out and lets see how many times you can flip a 400lb tire, or pull a sled 40-60 yards with a 200lb load do a farmers carry with a couple of hundred pounds in each hand, then run footwork and agility drills.................. ......by the way, that was just a sample of an obstical course AFTER the 20 min warmups that are a workout in itself..........are you ready??
The thing is that bodybuilders don't compete in anything that requires athletisism in itself. They pose on a stage, which requires a bit of stamina, and a bit of skills.
But that's it.
Most get athletic, as a means to look good.
But bodybuilders aren't athletes. Only if there was some kind of athletic test during the comp.
That is also why you will see guys like Tamali and ET with oil injected. Something that doesn't increase their strength, only how they look.
It's a pageant of sorts.
I-One: Just curious, why would you have the clients do warmups so hard that they're fatigued after that?
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I-One: Just curious, why would you have the clients do warmups so hard that they're fatigued after that?
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They don't warm up until they're fatigued and I don't do it with my general public, only my athletes. One of the main keys to avoiding injury is a proper warm-up, beit, football, strongman or even powerlifting, it not only warms up the muscles and joints but also prepares the CNS for the upcoming event, I would have to say the majority of injuries come from either not warming up, not warming up long enough or improperly warming up.
Even my baseball Pony team or travel ball team (10 year olds) don't touch the ball until they have their 20min warm up and strech.
In the gym they do a about a 15min dynamic warmup, roll on the foam roller for 5min and strech for 5-10min then the work out!