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Title: I got destroyed....
Post by: dzulboy on September 04, 2007, 09:39:47 PM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: marcus on September 04, 2007, 09:42:12 PM
Any pics from the comp?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 04, 2007, 09:44:37 PM
check MD   even if i wasn;t watery, i wouldn;t have cracked top 5

the top three guys got all my respect, they deserved  it more then anyone

and dave looked sick in the masters i personally think he was robbed in the overall
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: b.c. on September 04, 2007, 09:45:42 PM
15-20 more quality pounds and you will turn pro.  Once that happens you will most likely put on another 15-20 lbs. Good luck dzul...
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 04, 2007, 09:49:13 PM
15-20 more quality pounds and you will turn pro.  Once that happens you will most likely put on another 15-20 lbs. Good luck dzul...
weight isn;t the answer, i don;t think.
 the conditioning on these guys was insane,   paper skin on muscle
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on September 04, 2007, 09:50:50 PM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?

Why " flame away " ? I've certainly got nothing bad to say about you ... your a National Competitor ... most people that compete don't even make it that far. Good job and better luck next time !  :)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: whateva on September 04, 2007, 09:51:42 PM
Good job man ,at least you didn't come last  :D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: chaos on September 04, 2007, 09:55:36 PM
maybe you should enter the Mr Getbig and take the cake, then you could feel better about yourself. ;D

keep going strong man, you're almost there.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: b.c. on September 04, 2007, 09:57:23 PM
weight isn;t the answer, i don;t think.
 the conditioning on these guys was insane,   paper skin on muscle

Natural progression with age will make you bigger and more conditioned with time...  More importantly your structure will allow the added weight to look proportional to your width.  Slow and steady, bodybuilding is a marathon!  You have the genetics, just a matter of time.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: realkarateblackbelt on September 04, 2007, 10:00:29 PM
check MD   even if i wasn;t watery, i wouldn;t have cracked top 5

the top three guys got all my respect, they deserved  it more then anyone

and dave looked sick in the masters i personally think he was robbed in the overall

You suck.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Marty Champions on September 04, 2007, 10:00:51 PM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?

well daddy waddy has sympathy for your sub par juiced physique all you can do now to gain a slight bit of credibility now since your are finished is a posedown
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig1220tttt.jpg)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Marty Champions on September 04, 2007, 10:01:51 PM
weight isn;t the answer, i don;t think.
 the conditioning on these guys was insane,   paper skin on muscle
zero water near death is key
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: stuntmovie on September 04, 2007, 10:07:37 PM
Good, attitude, Dzul! Just don't give up! You got the potential to make it happen.if you really want to do it.

I hope you stay with it.

S
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: SS on September 04, 2007, 10:11:42 PM
DZ is truly a class act.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
weight isn;t the answer, i don;t think.
 the conditioning on these guys was insane,   paper skin on muscle

I saw the pics bro. Looks like you didn't dial in the last 5-7 days, no big deal, it happens; your structure is pretty good however, enough to have cracked top 5 easy if not more. You need just a little more guidance that's all.  8)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Boromir66 on September 04, 2007, 10:36:19 PM
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1176



but......which one are you?!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 04, 2007, 10:52:13 PM
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1176



but......which one are you?!
chris niem...............
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Wiggs on September 04, 2007, 11:30:23 PM
well daddy waddy has sympathy for your sub par juiced physique all you can do now to gain a slight bit of credibility now since your are finished is a posedown
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig1220tttt.jpg)

Dude why are you talking in the third person....Wiggs would like to know.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Alex23 on September 04, 2007, 11:31:24 PM
well daddy waddy has sympathy for your sub par juiced physique all you can do now to gain a slight bit of credibility now since your are finished is a posedown

Do you play basketball?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Shockwave on September 04, 2007, 11:34:07 PM
Holy structure batman.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: onlyme on September 04, 2007, 11:50:08 PM
well daddy waddy has sympathy for your sub par juiced physique all you can do now to gain a slight bit of credibility now since your are finished is a posedown
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig1220tttt.jpg)

Daddy honestly, when are you going to start working out.  Just wondering. The super skinny thing is great, but with your talking I thought you lifted weights.  Are there any gyms in the woods where you live.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: ThePassion on September 05, 2007, 12:03:46 AM
dzullboy who does ur contest prep??
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: hazbin on September 05, 2007, 12:08:06 AM
well daddy waddy has sympathy for your sub par juiced physique all you can do now to gain a slight bit of credibility now since your are finished is a posedown
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig1220tttt.jpg)

why would  a swimmer  post a picture of himself yawning like that on a bodybuilding website??

DZUL - you have all it takes to be a future pro. it's not that far away and definately within your potential.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 05, 2007, 12:08:42 AM
I saw the pics bro. Looks like you didn't dial in the last 5-7 days, no big deal, it happens; your structure is pretty good however, enough to have cracked top 5 easy if not more. You need just a little more guidance that's all.  8)
WTF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DIALING IN AND COMPETING ? HAVE U EVER BEEN ON STAGE ? DIDN'T THINK SO FATTIE...SO STOP SOUNDING LIKE U KNOW SOMETHING . HOPE THIS HELPS. ;)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: ThePassion on September 05, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
WTF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DIALING IN AND COMPETING ? HAVE U EVER BEEN ON STAGE ? DIDN'T THINK SO FATTIE...SO STOP SOUNDING LIKE U KNOW SOMETHING . HOPE THIS HELPS. ;)
Tough words coming from a 180lbs juicer
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Alex23 on September 05, 2007, 12:11:02 AM
WTF DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DIALING IN AND COMPETING ? HAVE U EVER BEEN ON STAGE ? DIDN'T THINK SO FATTIE...SO STOP SOUNDING LIKE U KNOW SOMETHING . HOPE THIS HELPS. ;)

HAhahahah did one of your moles pressed uppercase?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Alex23 on September 05, 2007, 12:11:58 AM
Tough words coming from a 180lbs juicer

boom?

ThePassion, are you saying that this physique is the result of steady drug usage?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 05, 2007, 12:14:58 AM
Tough words coming from a 180lbs juicer

HAHA AWESOME! took the words right out of my mouth
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 05, 2007, 12:17:39 AM
It's about u chubby not me . Don't worry about me. worry about your lovehandles. U cast oppinions like u are some competitor yet the only posing u've ever done was in your daddy's bedroom sticking your t5ongue out while doing a mostmuscular. Major being delusionalon your part .
 HERE'S A PIC OF U I FOUND ON A DATING SITE ... DID U SCORE BY THE WAY ?  :)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 05, 2007, 12:18:54 AM
HAHA AWESOME! took the words right out of my mouth
U meant took the shlong out of your mouth..... ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 05, 2007, 12:21:56 AM
U meant took the shlong out of your mouth..... ;D

Speaking from experience??
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 05, 2007, 12:41:13 AM
Speaking from experience??
weak comeback rookie...try again..
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: CQ on September 05, 2007, 12:47:06 AM
Dzul, you looked good and congrats for even competing at that level....
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Stark on September 05, 2007, 12:51:05 AM
Daddy honestly, when are you going to start working out.  Just wondering. The super skinny thing is great, but with your talking I thought you lifted weights.  Are there any gyms in the woods where you live.

in all fairness onlyme, if he is truly natural never juiced this is a very respectable figure for his height and all I'm don't know your beef with waddy but saying otherwise don't make you look so competent.

Dzul don't worry bro and don't give up if this is truly what you want.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2007, 01:01:18 AM
check MD   even if i wasn;t watery, i wouldn;t have cracked top 5

the top three guys got all my respect, they deserved  it more then anyone

and dave looked sick in the masters i personally think he was robbed in the overall

youre right,,you were flat  and  watery,,legs looked small your arms which  are your strongest point looked small,although you were very low bodyfat you looked like if you were 6%,,you flatten out and became watery ,,you wouldnt win even local that day,then again other pictures of you i seen on this board you look like pro potential

dave p couldnt win that specific show because the weird looking fella looked better and had better symetry+ size                                          
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Alex23 on September 05, 2007, 01:03:56 AM
youre right,,you were flat  and  watery,,legs looked small your arms which  are your strongest point looked small,although you were very low bodyfat you looked like if you were 6%,,you flatten out and became watery ,,you wouldnt win even local that day,then again other pictures of you i seen on this board you look like pro potential

dave p couldnt win that specific show because the weird looking fella looked better and had better symetry+ size                                          

Cook?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2007, 01:04:18 AM
in all fairness onlyme, if he is truly natural never juiced this is a very respectable figure for his height and all I'm don't know your beef with waddy but saying otherwise don't make you look so competent.

Dzul don't worry bro and don't give up if this is truly what you want.

waddy is or was hormonized at some point thats for sure,,he does have pne of the better genetics for 6'6 guys
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2007, 01:05:17 AM
Cook?

the one who forgot to apply color to his face and looked like a clown,,
he did have better physiqe though and deserved the win
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 05, 2007, 01:07:02 AM
the one who forgot to apply color to his face and looked like a clown,,
he did have better physiqe though and deserved the win

yes he did look like a clown w/no tan on his face, i agree
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2007, 06:48:10 AM
waddy is or was hormonized at some point thats for sure,,he does have pne of the better genetics for 6'6 guys

thanks for the compliment ass, but no never took any hormones
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: affy on September 05, 2007, 06:53:29 AM
dz honestly you need more chest

thats all
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 05, 2007, 07:51:41 AM
You came in flat, not watery.  Flat = muscles not pushed up against the skin = LOOKS watery.  I think you lost too much water or didnt carb up near enough.  Your metabolism is fast, you gotta carb up hard and remember not to cut sodium until you are almost full.... water + sodium + carbs... cant load without the 3. 

You know you have great structure, so i dont gotta talk about that....but you looked smallish for a HWT.  Need to grow into that weight class more and could have lost a tad bit more bodyfat.  You look the same bodyfat as when i saw you 2 months ago honestly.    Hams looked great, quads and inner thighs need more size.  I keep tellin you that your back needs more size also....

Next time.... let me do your diet ;) itl suck, be prepared to lose a little bit of muscle (so gain some EXTRA in the offseason) and il get you peeeeled
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: njflex on September 05, 2007, 07:55:34 AM
dzulboy has good potential.looked really good at the arnold amateur ,he'll bounce back,all other post's covered it so nothing to add.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Andre Nickatina on September 05, 2007, 08:04:59 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q7294_TIGFLLDKMO.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q7293_DUWRGNZVMI.jpg)

Very decent job.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Playboy on September 05, 2007, 08:10:10 AM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?
Don't worry about it bro. Shit happens. As long as you feel great and you look great then thats all that matters. Not some trophy.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: eastcoastbbman on September 05, 2007, 08:38:58 AM
hey, chris. first off, thanks for the vote for me for the overall. thats nice to hear.

secondly, i was very concerned that you were pissed at me for the things i said to you about your condition when we were at the competitors meeting. i always want people to be honest with me and i try to be as honest as i can with others. having said that, it doesnt seem like you took offense. in fact, it seems like you took it as good advice.

you are still a lightheavy for now. sometimes we as bodybuilders want to get ahead of ourselves and go up a class before our bodies want to. there is no physiological possibility of you having gone from 198 to 220 onstage in 16 weeks without adding fat and water to the equation...no way! when i heard that you had done that....i had a strong feeling you were not going to do well.

the way you looked at the arnold...plus 10% more conditioning.......and you are a national champ!!! trust me on this, chris. paper thin skin, granite hardness and deep striations will make you look bigger than the heavies due to your shape!!!!

just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: YoungBlood on September 05, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Dzulboy,

How did you come up with that name? ??? What does it mean or stand for? ???


You looked good, but I can't say anything that hasn't been said yet. :)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 05, 2007, 08:53:22 AM
(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q7294_TIGFLLDKMO.jpg)

(http://www.graphicmuscle.net/photos/transferred/QW5Q7293_DUWRGNZVMI.jpg)

Very decent job.

nice hair
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: emn1964 on September 05, 2007, 08:56:35 AM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?

No flame from me. . .much respect.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 05, 2007, 09:37:11 AM
Chris,
Got to give you credit for coming on the board and owning up to your placing.
What I've learned in BB is it's better to be the guy w/ the genetic potential to go far rather the guy who wins the show on any given day.
Fortunately you got it, consider yourself lucky. Some guys can work their asses off and only go so far.
Once you figure your conditioning out and with some hard work and discipline you can make it all the way.

Daves right, get to ltHvys, get your conditioning down and you will do well.
With that said "YOU GOT STOMPED" and don't blink or my boy Griff is gonna pass you up.

Dave congrats dude you looked great. Was not there so only can go by pics. Mike H won my JR USA this year so i was glad to see him get the victory. However i know you are a hard worker and felt bad that you barely missed out. I know you though back to the drawing board bigger, harder, better next time around.

Peace out!

TRES
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Tapeworm on September 05, 2007, 09:52:37 AM
Dzulboy,

How did you come up with that name? ??? What does it mean or stand for? ???


You looked good, but I can't say anything that hasn't been said yet. :)

Dzul=Diesel

You're normally so quick YB, we'll give ya free pass on this one.  :D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 05, 2007, 11:07:43 AM
If you deplete too greatly or for too long of a period of time and then try to "carb up hard", you won't be able to fill out in time. Also, the huge insulin spike caused by "carbing up hard" will ensure that you retain water while still remaining flat.

The highlighted comment alone would cause me to steer clear here.  ;)

Sean, Toopowerful know his sh!t. I just think everyone does things different.
Sean i am sure you know your sh!t as well but your comments others may not agree w/
My philosophy is I have no comprehension of timing it wrong or dropped my water to soon or didn't fill out in time.
My deal is your ready or your not. People say you can't hold conditioning I say BS. You should look like you want on stage two weeks out. The show should just be another day w/ some MINOR adjustments.
I never carb my athletes up that much maybe 50-100 extra day before maybe none. Hardly ever stop drinking water. just my philosophy. Most people that say they are holding water or flat are just still FAT.
Nobody is wrong just different ways of doing it.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: YoungBlood on September 05, 2007, 11:22:31 AM
Dzul=Diesel

You're normally so quick YB, we'll give ya free pass on this one.  :D

Thanks for the good words. I'll take what I can get! ;D
Not sure how Dzul equates to Diesel, but I'll roll with it!!! :-X
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: mesmorph78 on September 05, 2007, 11:40:13 AM
good legs
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 05, 2007, 12:51:05 PM
I hear ya, and I hope my post didn't come across as implying that he didn't. I was just wanting to clarify that you can be both flat and have water in your subcutaneous for a multitude reasons.
Not at all bro. I for one respect your knowledge.
I was just letting you know Toopowerful knows his stuff, maybe to much sometimes. Sometimes all that scientific knowledge gets in the way of fish broccoli and cardio if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: jaejonna on September 05, 2007, 01:30:35 PM
at least this time you didnt burn your lip  :-X
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: wisconsinBB on September 05, 2007, 01:31:50 PM
It was a tough show.  I think you looked pretty damn good, just need to be a little harder.  Anyone who has competed has had their off days.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: michael arvilla on September 05, 2007, 01:35:57 PM
Dz ..................just come in that much better in your next show!

(pick a show now and work towards that goal)

you got a very good structure
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 05, 2007, 03:10:42 PM
at least this time you didnt burn your lip  :-X
i noticed that what was the source of the burn...smoking crack?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: GRIFFGEAR on September 05, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
dzul
i have to agree with everyone else when they say you should be a lightheavy.  you looked great at the arnold and you could have been even more conditioned there.  You did beat me there but I'm coming for you next year.   :)  keep working hard dude and don't let the quest for size ruin your shape and look, thats your bread and butter.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: 3Dkiller on September 05, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
hang on there mate you looking good !
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Man of Steel on September 05, 2007, 03:57:23 PM
Don't sweat it dzul, you're built like a tank and doin what you love....success doesn't come overnight.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: YoungBlood on September 05, 2007, 04:00:22 PM
i noticed that what was the source of the burn...smoking crack?

I think it's a reference to DZ getting hit in the lip with an ice chip from a snow blower....
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 05, 2007, 07:45:10 PM
If you deplete too greatly or for too long of a period of time and then try to "carb up hard", you won't be able to fill out in time. Also, the huge insulin spike caused by "carbing up hard" will ensure that you retain water while still remaining flat.
 
I am well aware of this.  The insulin spike should be utalized EARLY like Wed or Thurs, by Fri your slin sensativity SHOULD be lowered due to carbing up days earlier.  By then, you should be FULL and lowering carbs to insure you drop that last bit of water (more complex than this but you get the gist)

The highlighted comment alone would cause me to steer clear here.  ;)

This is a given, and im not talkin a LOT of muscle... but just a little.  You have to err on the low side as your bodyfat gets extremely low to get that last bit of fat off.....If you would steer clear because of this, you must not be prepared to get in insane condition.  I dont know of a single person who wouldnt let go of a SMALL amount of muscle in order to get SHREADED... and sure theres a way to hold ALL or gain a little bit of muscle and get shreaded.... its called UP THE DOSES OF EVERYTHING INCLUDING FAT BURNERS... would you rather your heath and a little muscle loss.... or just wreck your body and make sure you dont lose any muscle?  ;)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Disgusted on September 05, 2007, 08:31:16 PM
My philosophy is I have no comprehension of timing it wrong or dropped my water to soon or didn't fill out in time.
My deal is your ready or your not. People say you can't hold conditioning I say BS. You should look like you want on stage two weeks out. The show should just be another day w/ some MINOR adjustments.
I never carb my athletes up that much maybe 50-100 extra day before maybe none. Hardly ever stop drinking water. just my philosophy. Most people that say they are holding water or flat are just still FAT.
Nobody is wrong just different ways of doing it.

Good advise. I am also not a big fan of carbing up and or depleting and I never cut water. I do have some things that I do, but  they are subtle and they vary depending on the person.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: jude2 on September 05, 2007, 08:42:16 PM
Chris no one can flame on you, because you look better than most people. It is hard to move up a weight class and this show was stacked deep.  Train hard and I think your will make a great HW.  Peace
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: garraeth on September 05, 2007, 08:59:01 PM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?
You won't get flamed because you're not an ass or attention whore.


Hope this helps.


 ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: garraeth on September 05, 2007, 09:02:53 PM
...unlike this guy, whose both:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166539.0;attach=193238;image)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 05, 2007, 09:16:50 PM
dzul
i have to agree with everyone else when they say you should be a lightheavy.  you looked great at the arnold and you could have been even more conditioned there.  You did beat me there but I'm coming for you next year.   :)  keep working hard dude and don't let the quest for size ruin your shape and look, thats your bread and butter.

this is not right,,he can still get into the top 10 in nationals competing as a heavy weight,,the main trick with a physiqe like his is to get down to 197lb then for the weigh in drink some water weigh in as a heavy and do the heavy as a light heavy,,the heavy weight class is a mess when it comes to strcuture and symetry and a light heavy with genetic repond to hormones and training such as his will win that class

i always claim that for best way to win your pro card is at a "light heavy weight" competing in the heavys,,

got to bring up the chest other wize even coming middle weight wont help
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Sir Bigness on September 05, 2007, 10:01:44 PM
At least you've got the balls to get on stage! Good for you! Keep it up!!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: McFarland on September 05, 2007, 10:29:29 PM
this is not right,,he can still get into the top 10 in nationals competing as a heavy weight,,the main trick with a physiqe like his is to get down to 197lb then for the weigh in drink some water weigh in as a heavy and do the heavy as a light heavy,,the heavy weight class is a mess when it comes to strcuture and symetry and a light heavy with genetic repond to hormones and training such as his will win that class

i always claim that for best way to win your pro card is at a "light heavy weight" competing in the heavys,,

got to bring up the chest other wize even coming middle weight wont help

See, it's the consistency of solid, novel points like this that won't let me write this guy off...

Dzulboy you're gonna make it, just keep going.  You have what it takes.  I like hearing about your workouts too.  I like the mentality behind them.           
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Disgusted on September 05, 2007, 11:08:29 PM
See, it's the consistency of solid, novel points like this that won't let me write this guy off...

Dzulboy you're gonna make it, just keep going.  You have what it takes.  I like hearing about your workouts too.  I like the mentality behind them.           

Kinda figured you would agree.  ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 05, 2007, 11:08:30 PM
...unlike this guy, whose both:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166539.0;attach=193238;image)
at least i'm not a grampa stacking gh with anabolics in a desperate attempt to recoup the youth  ;)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 05, 2007, 11:16:05 PM
dzullboy who does ur contest prep??

i do     i am thinking about firing him though  lol
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 05, 2007, 11:20:40 PM
nice hair

i still have some thank god lol
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 05, 2007, 11:21:25 PM
hey, chris. first off, thanks for the vote for me for the overall. thats nice to hear.

secondly, i was very concerned that you were pissed at me for the things i said to you about your condition when we were at the competitors meeting. i always want people to be honest with me and i try to be as honest as i can with others. having said that, it doesnt seem like you took offense. in fact, it seems like you took it as good advice.

you are still a lightheavy for now. sometimes we as bodybuilders want to get ahead of ourselves and go up a class before our bodies want to. there is no physiological possibility of you having gone from 198 to 220 onstage in 16 weeks without adding fat and water to the equation...no way! when i heard that you had done that....i had a strong feeling you were not going to do well.

the way you looked at the arnold...plus 10% more conditioning.......and you are a national champ!!! trust me on this, chris. paper thin skin, granite hardness and deep striations will make you look bigger than the heavies due to your shape!!!!

just my 2 cents.

i wa snot pisse dbaout what you said  at all...........   your are always straight with me and i respect that
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 05, 2007, 11:24:30 PM
i noticed that what was the source of the burn...smoking crack?

wasn;t aburn it got split in half from arock kickd out of a snowblower  (that happened in march)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: hazbin on September 05, 2007, 11:26:54 PM
bro, your structure is perfect for bodybuilding. the gains you made since the arnold show you have the drive and genetics to gain quality mass fast. you obviously didn't peak perfect, not far off, but being your first time at this level you probably got noticed. that is more important than peaking and being overlooked anyway. do what you are doing, grow a bit more and nail your conditioning next time and they can't ignore you.

rik
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 05, 2007, 11:31:34 PM
bro, your structure is perfect for bodybuilding. the gains you made since the arnold show you have the drive and genetics to gain quality mass fast. you obviously didn't peak perfect, not far off, but being your first time at this level you probably got noticed. that is more important than peaking and being overlooked anyway. do what you are doing, grow a bit more and nail your conditioning next time and they can't ignore you.

rik

i wasn;lt even noticed    trust me on this

ok and to clear a few things up i was LEANER then i was at the arnold , i was also fuller but i was notcarbe dup fully and was holding water due to the fact   i looked great friday  and should stayed at the same water i was at  but i didn;t liek a dumb ass. I FUCKED UP

i lost the hardness i had at the arnold due to the fac ti am came in about 18-19 lbs heavier at this show then i did just 5 months ago.....

with all that being said if i was spot on (for me) i wouldn;t have broken top 5 , never seen anything like those top 4 guys in my life....pro level or not and they all weighed under 210
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Honour on September 06, 2007, 12:08:30 AM
Great job dzulboy, yes you probably needed an extra 10% or so but you have what a lot of those guys don't, natural shape and genetics for bodybuilding. Fantastic lat spread as well btw. Give it time mate, you will go far. Well done 8).
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: garraeth on September 06, 2007, 12:09:55 AM
at least i'm not a grampa stacking gh with anabolics in a desperate attempt to recoup the youth  ;)
No you are a moron whose only 5 years younger than I am stacking GH and anabolics with no effect.  ::)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 06, 2007, 12:13:27 AM
No you are a moron whose only 5 years younger than I am stacking GH and anabolics with no effect.  ::)
Major being in denial grampa...you really 36 ?...jesus ...I thought u look great for almost 50... :-\
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 06, 2007, 12:36:54 PM
this is not right,,he can still get into the top 10 in nationals competing as a heavy weight,,the main trick with a physiqe like his is to get down to 197lb then for the weigh in drink some water weigh in as a heavy and do the heavy as a light heavy,,the heavy weight class is a mess when it comes to strcuture and symetry and a light heavy with genetic repond to hormones and training such as his will win that class

i always claim that for best way to win your pro card is at a "light heavy weight" competing in the heavys,,

got to bring up the chest other wize even coming middle weight wont help
Could be the single most unintelligent post in Get Big History.

I think I am going to diet down to middlewight and then drink lots of water and get up to Super Heavy's because I have great shape and a lot of the Supers don't. What ya think?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: GRIFFGEAR on September 06, 2007, 12:43:48 PM
Gh15 like your philosophy bro.  I am dieting this batamweight for the nationals can you tell me how many gallons of water it would take for him to be a lightheavy. Please advise!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 06, 2007, 01:34:05 PM
LMFAO @ 2 posts above me
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: garraeth on September 06, 2007, 01:46:45 PM
Major being in denial grampa...you really 36 ?...jesus ...I thought u look great for almost 50... :-\
Oh, so 4 year difference. Not 5. Pot, meet kettle.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 06, 2007, 06:40:48 PM
Could be the single most unintelligent post in Get Big History.

I think I am going to diet down to middlewight and then drink lots of water and get up to Super Heavy's because I have great shape and a lot of the Supers don't. What ya think?

thats why you are a no body,,insted of arguing with me about my advice you better write it down because people pay a lot of money for this advice or wish they could get it when they stand inline to get my signed picture
what i recomend here is the best advice about hormones and or competition related subjects that you will ever hear,,anywhere!
the water drink is just so he can get the couple pounds needed for the weighin,,then he compete among bunch of heavys as light heavy,,and for a show like north american with what he has to offer it will = top 10

now do me a favor and go back to drinking creatine and dont forget your glutamine
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 06, 2007, 06:43:38 PM
Did you have gyno surgery?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: HERACLES on September 06, 2007, 07:13:06 PM
hey, chris. first off, thanks for the vote for me for the overall. thats nice to hear.

secondly, i was very concerned that you were pissed at me for the things i said to you about your condition when we were at the competitors meeting. i always want people to be honest with me and i try to be as honest as i can with others. having said that, it doesnt seem like you took offense. in fact, it seems like you took it as good advice.

you are still a lightheavy for now. sometimes we as bodybuilders want to get ahead of ourselves and go up a class before our bodies want to. there is no physiological possibility of you having gone from 198 to 220 onstage in 16 weeks without adding fat and water to the equation...no way! when i heard that you had done that....i had a strong feeling you were not going to do well.

the way you looked at the arnold...plus 10% more conditioning.......and you are a national champ!!! trust me on this, chris. paper thin skin, granite hardness and deep striations will make you look bigger than the heavies due to your shape!!!!

just my 2 cents.

Good advice..Dzulboy youll get there, you have the package just polish it up and as stated dont rush yourself to the heavier class. It will come with age.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 06, 2007, 07:14:35 PM
thats why you are a no body,,insted of arguing with me about my advice you better write it down because people pay a lot of money for this advice or wish they could get it when they stand inline to get my signed picture
what i recomend here is the best advice about hormones and or competition related subjects that you will ever hear,,anywhere!
the water drink is just so he can get the couple pounds needed for the weighin,,then he compete among bunch of heavys as light heavy,,and for a show like north american with what he has to offer it will = top 10

now do me a favor and go back to drinking creatine and dont forget your glutamine

Why would he give up so much size to the Heavies when people like Darrell Terrell and Eric Frankhouser are in there?  Id want to at least match size with people of that calibur.  Chris was like 220ish anyway, hed have to lose 20lbs!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 06, 2007, 07:19:47 PM
thats why you are a no body,,insted of arguing with me about my advice you better write it down because people pay a lot of money for this advice or wish they could get it when they stand inline to get my signed picture
what i recomend here is the best advice about hormones and or competition related subjects that you will ever hear,,anywhere!
the water drink is just so he can get the couple pounds needed for the weighin,,then he compete among bunch of heavys as light heavy,,and for a show like north american with what he has to offer it will = top 10

now do me a favor and go back to drinking creatine and dont forget your glutamine
Ok I wont argue with you and I will write down your advice!
First question I have a contest in two weeks I weigh about 147lbs but id like to get on stage the next day at 216lbs
can you tell me how much water to drink and should it be regular or distilled? I think because I am only 3'7" I will look really huge as a heavyweight.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 06, 2007, 07:43:58 PM
Ok I wont argue with you and I will write down your advice!
First question I have a contest in two weeks I weigh about 147lbs but id like to get on stage the next day at 216lbs
can you tell me how much water to drink and should it be regular or distilled? I think because I am only 3'7" I will look really huge as a heavyweight.

hey Tre... im still going with the game plan we talked about.... its similar to this.... but im doin it the opposite way... im weighing in at one weight and competing weighing as much as the middle of the next class up lol... i guess its SOMEWHAT similar  ;)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Camel Jockey on September 06, 2007, 07:47:10 PM
Sorry to hear that, bro.

But I've yet to see your full body shots, so I'm no judge.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: WOOO on September 06, 2007, 07:47:34 PM
take the defeat as a challenge... train, eat and try again!!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: garraeth on September 06, 2007, 07:48:50 PM
thats why you are a no body,,insted of arguing with me about my advice you better write it down because people pay a lot of money for this advice or wish they could get it when they stand inline to get my signed picture
what i recomend here is the best advice about hormones and or competition related subjects that you will ever hear,,anywhere!
the water drink is just so he can get the couple pounds needed for the weighin,,then he compete among bunch of heavys as light heavy,,and for a show like north american with what he has to offer it will = top 10

now do me a favor and go back to drinking creatine and dont forget your glutamine
Correct me someone if I'm wrong. But gh15 is also a "nobody". Until he/she reveals his/her identity and Ron verifies, the status as "nobody" stands.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 06, 2007, 07:50:39 PM
hey Tre... im still going with the game plan we talked about.... its similar to this.... but im doin it the opposite way... im weighing in at one weight and competing weighing as much as the middle of the next class up lol... i guess its SOMEWHAT similar  ;)
Makes more sense than weighing in at the bottom of a class. I mean if you were doing a show and you're a lt hvy with unreal shape and knew ALL of the heavys were just big BLOCKS then maybe in a silly sort of way GH  has a point. But how in the hell do you know what all of your competition looks like at a national event.
Plus like you said it ain't like heavys like Terell have bad shape, if fact DT's shape is pretty damn impressive.
Now get back on the treadmill Chris.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 06, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
Ok I wont argue with you and I will write down your advice!
First question I have a contest in two weeks I weigh about 147lbs but id like to get on stage the next day at 216lbs
can you tell me how much water to drink and should it be regular or distilled? I think because I am only 3'7" I will look really huge as a heavyweight.

ok genious ::)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: McFarland on September 06, 2007, 07:59:18 PM
Makes more sense than weighing in at the bottom of a class. I mean if you were doing a show and you're a lt hvy with unreal shape and knew ALL of the heavys were just big BLOCKS then maybe in a silly sort of way GH  has a point. But how in the hell do you know what all of your competition looks like at a national event.
Plus like you said it ain't like heavys like Terell have bad shape, if fact DT's shape is pretty damn impressive.
Now get back on the treadmill Chris.

gh15's only advocating that a guy weighing 1 pound less than the lightheavy cutoff drink 16 oz of water.  16oz water=1 pound.  2 cups.  Seriously, for a guy like dzulboy he could realistically be in tip-top shape conditioning and size wize at right around the cutoff so this might actually be a really good strategy for a guy like him.  I know it would be cutting it close but I mean that's the whole point, right?

I'm actually thinking the same strategy would work even better for a heavyweight wanting to compete as a superheavy.  How many superheavies are in true shape in anything less than a national-level show?     
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 06, 2007, 08:04:03 PM
Why would he give up so much size to the Heavies when people like Darrell Terrell and Eric Frankhouser are in there?  Id want to at least match size with people of that calibur.  Chris was like 220ish anyway, hed have to lose 20lbs!

i cant write it because it will insult him and he is a good guy,,but i will write it anyway
HE LOOKED LIKE GARBAGE ON STAGE,,IN ADDITION COMING TO THE COMPETITION WHEN I SAW THE PICTURES POSTED WITH THE COMPUTER INETERNET CAMERA I SAID TO MYSELF HE WONT GET IN TOP 10 REASON IS,,HIS SIZE DOESNT SHOW HIS WEIGHT,,HE LOOKED FLAT TO BEGIN WITH IN THOSE PICTURE,,LOOKED INSULIN GROWTH SIZE,,IT WAS LACKIN MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT YET HAD THE SIZE TO DO HEAVYS BUT AS I ALWAYS SAY SIZE IS NOT EVERYTHING,,,MANY FITNESS MODEL AT 190LB LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT HE LOOKED WITH ARMS SAME SIZE AND THEY ARE 30LB LESS ON SCALE,,

soooo my dear friend,,since i like the guy and he seem serious about bodybuilding,,i chimed in,,he got a very good physiqe in general,,he can make it to a pro card as a light heavy or as the minimum weight needed for a heavy,,his frame is not ready for 230 nothing on stage,,at 195-200lb he will wipe the stage with lots of heavys and nail top 10 top 5 and then top 1 to a pro card

this is a mistake you all do,,,tropopin,,kuclo,,now this guy,,all got good physiqes but think too much about size and the size is lack of quality it is size that is 90% result of drug use and not muscular development as a result of drug use!

i hope gareth will write this down since i dont have time to answer his no body toodeel dee toodeel dum post ;)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: McFarland on September 06, 2007, 08:08:47 PM

soooo my dear friend,,since i like the guy and he seem serious about bodybuilding,,i chimed in,,he got a very good physiqe in general,,he can make it to a pro card as a light heavy or as the minimum weight needed for a heavy,,his frame is not ready for 230 nothing on stage,,at 195-200lb he will wipe the stage with lots of heavys and nail top 10 top 5 and then top 1 to a pro card

Word, he'd have looked wicked at 198. 
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: njflex on September 06, 2007, 08:17:10 PM
Word, he'd have looked wicked at 198. 
true,,,prejudge over 200 with fellow lightheavies.same as middle on top end your in 176 weigh in,but are being judged full,hard if all planned at least 180.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 06, 2007, 08:25:08 PM
i cant write it because it will insult him and he is a good guy,,but i will write it anyway
HE LOOKED LIKE GARBAGE ON STAGE,,IN ADDITION COMING TO THE COMPETITION WHEN I SAW THE PICTURES POSTED WITH THE COMPUTER INETERNET CAMERA I SAID TO MYSELF HE WONT GET IN TOP 10 REASON IS,,HIS SIZE DOESNT SHOW HIS WEIGHT,,HE LOOKED FLAT TO BEGIN WITH IN THOSE PICTURE,,LOOKED INSULIN GROWTH SIZE,,IT WAS LACKIN MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT YET HAD THE SIZE TO DO HEAVYS BUT AS I ALWAYS SAY SIZE IS NOT EVERYTHING,,,MANY FITNESS MODEL AT 190LB LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT HE LOOKED WITH ARMS SAME SIZE AND THEY ARE 30LB LESS ON SCALE,,

soooo my dear friend,,since i like the guy and he seem serious about bodybuilding,,i chimed in,,he got a very good physiqe in general,,he can make it to a pro card as a light heavy or as the minimum weight needed for a heavy,,his frame is not ready for 230 nothing on stage,,at 195-200lb he will wipe the stage with lots of heavys and nail top 10 top 5 and then top 1 to a pro card

this is a mistake you all do,,,tropopin,,kuclo,,now this guy,,all got good physiqes but think too much about size and the size is lack of quality it is size that is 90% result of drug use and not muscular development as a result of drug use!

i hope gareth will write this down since i dont have time to answer his no body toodeel dee toodeel dum post ;)

See, this statement i agree with.  You are on the money.  I do not believe he had a drugged up look, but rather a "bloaty" soft look of somebody trying to be heavier than they actually are, so they did not diet as hard (trying to keep calories up and maintain size).  This also holds true for Kuclo (this yr).  He should have dieted down to Light-Heavies (i dont care what any judges told you Chris) and been SHREADED.  He still had some fat to lose.  You were leaner at the Arnold (even tho you could have even been a tad LEANER on THAT day TOO believe it or not). 

I believe as a light heavy at THIS point in time, he can stand next to the best light heavies... so WHY would he want to go heavy instead of light heavy if he makes weight?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: McFarland on September 06, 2007, 08:32:00 PM
See, this statement i agree with.  You are on the money.  I do not believe he had a drugged up look, but rather a "bloaty" soft look of somebody trying to be heavier than they actually are, so they did not diet as hard (trying to keep calories up and maintain size).  This also holds true for Kuclo (this yr).  He should have dieted down to Light-Heavies (i dont care what any judges told you Chris) and been SHREADED.  He still had some fat to lose.  You were leaner at the Arnold (even tho you could have even been a tad LEANER on THAT day TOO believe it or not). 

I believe as a light heavy at THIS point in time, he can stand next to the best light heavies... so WHY would he want to go heavy instead of light heavy if he makes weight?

How many heavyweights are gonna be truly shredded and symmetrical?  Alot fewer than the number of lightheavies that are gonna meet those criteria.  It's not about trying to put yourself against the most equally-matched competition, it's about putting yourself where you're more likely to win.  And remember we're talking about drinking just a few cups of water so there'd be no appreciable sacrifice in conditioning from that in such a short term or maybe even at all, to get to heavies, so why not?   

Did I understand your question correctly?     
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: eastcoastbbman on September 06, 2007, 09:03:44 PM
hey, chris. i dont know what your next competitive move is gonna be, but i really think you should focus on getting as shredded as possible and go into the nats as a lightheavy with cellophane skin and kick ass!!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 06, 2007, 10:55:10 PM
Could be the single most unintelligent post in Get Big History.

I think I am going to diet down to middlewight and then drink lots of water and get up to Super Heavy's because I have great shape and a lot of the Supers don't. What ya think?

i would agree but it worked for the kid who won the arnold in the heavies he weighed 199
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: MattT on September 06, 2007, 10:58:19 PM
dzulboy  where are your pics at?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 06, 2007, 11:12:15 PM
i looked like shit i really would ratehr not post what i have    ..but contrary to popular belief  my added weight was nto from insulin i deite don alot carbs to try to maintain weight base don what the JUDGES told me to do
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Spicy Shushi on September 06, 2007, 11:19:16 PM
Aren't you the kid with the attitude at the gaspari booth?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 06, 2007, 11:22:16 PM
Aren't you the kid with the attitude at the gaspari booth?

 ithink you mean phil

unless your the guy who cried to me about placing out of the top 5 cause two competitors passed out  and then finished in fron tof you at a contest    then yeah that was me  your attitude and build both suck   itreat ppeople how they treat me
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: MattT on September 06, 2007, 11:23:13 PM
i looked like shit i really would ratehr not post what i have    ..but contrary to popular belief  my added weight was nto from insulin i deite don alot carbs to try to maintain weight base don what the JUDGES told me to do

You have a good physique you can't have looked that bad, just post a few.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 06, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
You have a good physique you can't have looked that bad, just post a few.

dude i was fit for the movie oceans 14  with the wate ri wa sholding     ugh
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 07, 2007, 03:08:57 AM
i cant write it because it will insult him and he is a good guy,,but i will write it anyway
HE LOOKED LIKE GARBAGE ON STAGE,,IN ADDITION COMING TO THE COMPETITION WHEN I SAW THE PICTURES POSTED WITH THE COMPUTER INETERNET CAMERA I SAID TO MYSELF HE WONT GET IN TOP 10 REASON IS,,HIS SIZE DOESNT SHOW HIS WEIGHT,,HE LOOKED FLAT TO BEGIN WITH IN THOSE PICTURE,,LOOKED INSULIN GROWTH SIZE,,IT WAS LACKIN MUSCLE DEVELOPMENT YET HAD THE SIZE TO DO HEAVYS BUT AS I ALWAYS SAY SIZE IS NOT EVERYTHING,,,MANY FITNESS MODEL AT 190LB LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT HE LOOKED WITH ARMS SAME SIZE AND THEY ARE 30LB LESS ON SCALE,,

soooo my dear friend,,since i like the guy and he seem serious about bodybuilding,,i chimed in,,he got a very good physiqe in general,,he can make it to a pro card as a light heavy or as the minimum weight needed for a heavy,,his frame is not ready for 230 nothing on stage,,at 195-200lb he will wipe the stage with lots of heavys and nail top 10 top 5 and then top 1 to a pro card

this is a mistake you all do,,,tropopin,,kuclo,,now this guy,,all got good physiqes but think too much about size and the size is lack of quality it is size that is 90% result of drug use and not muscular development as a result of drug use!

i hope gareth will write this down since i dont have time to answer his no body toodeel dee toodeel dum post ;)
We understand your theory bro, but you guys are banking on the fact that none of the heavys have shape or condition. The top four heavys had both. If Dzul would have got down to 198 hell yeah he would of looked better, cause he's a legit lthvy. However he could have been peeled and dry to the max  and still could not have been competitive as a heavy. Yeah you say top 10, maybe but if he's peeled w/ his shape at 198 why not do the friggin lthvys and have a chance to win. I totaly agree w/ you size aint everything but no way on a national stage you can give up 25lbs, i dont care if you have perfect shape.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: njflex on September 07, 2007, 07:02:01 AM
case in point due to great shape and conditioning mark dugdale won as a light heavy on scale in a sm heavyeight body on appearance .
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 07, 2007, 07:19:32 AM
case in point due to great shape and conditioning mark dugdale won as a light heavy on scale in a sm heavyeight body on appearance .
exactly! so why would he drink some water and compete as a hvy, when he can look like a hvy in the lghthvy class
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 07, 2007, 11:52:52 AM
exactly! so why would he drink some water and compete as a hvy, when he can look like a hvy in the lghthvy class

thats what i was wondering
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: toolarge4u on September 07, 2007, 12:24:58 PM
thats what i was wondering

are you serious? He stated why, the hw class is a cluster fuck most of the time, he has a better shot there then battling other light heavys with his same gifts...So go into that class against guys who are too heavy and fat/lazy with shitty genetics (most of the time). Goto any npc show...the light heavys are usually the most complete. The hw's are mostly guys who should have been lh, and sh should have been hw and sometimes lh LOL
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 07, 2007, 12:44:15 PM
are you serious? He stated why, the hw class is a cluster fuck most of the time, he has a better shot there then battling other light heavys with his same gifts...So go into that class against guys who are too heavy and fat/lazy with shitty genetics (most of the time). Goto any npc show...the light heavys are usually the most complete. The hw's are mostly guys who should have been lh, and sh should have been hw and sometimes lh LOL
Ok so let me ge ths straight! At most shows you claim that all the heavyweights suck and have no shape, but the lghthvys are always bad ass. What shows are you going to? The last show I attended the lghthvy weight was a badass and he was shredded. However in the "overall" he lost to a softer hvy just because the guy out muscled him to death. First of all we are talking about the North Americans, a NATIONAL show, and at any given National show no one and I mean no one could give up possibly 27lbs of muscle and win.

Go drink some water!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: toolarge4u on September 07, 2007, 01:03:36 PM
Ok so let me ge ths straight! At most shows you claim that all the heavyweights suck and have no shape, but the lghthvys are always bad ass. What shows are you going to? The last show I attended the lghthvy weight was a badass and he was shredded. However in the "overall" he lost to a softer hvy just because the guy out muscled him to death. First of all we are talking about the North Americans, a NATIONAL show, and at any given National show no one and I mean no one could give up possibly 27lbs of muscle and win.

Go drink some water!!!!!!!!!!

please post some pics from this show...i would love to see a soft heavy beat a shredded lh...stop making shit up cuntflute
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Solid Attitude on September 07, 2007, 01:42:43 PM
I promoted the show. SC EXCALIBUR! Was head judge/ well I called it but did not score it. I will try to find you some pics. But no matter what at the National Level you always want to be at the top of your weightclass (in shape) if possible.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 07, 2007, 02:23:50 PM
Too Large (oh geeze  ::)) ....hate to break it to ya BRAHHH but he would have done much better against the light heavies at NA's than Frankhouser, Libartore, and Terrell!  Go look up some pix and stop talkin smack.  You dont give up 30lbs to guys like THAT and expect to win unless you are Dexter Jackson against Markus Ruhl (and its STILL iffy on that one!)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 07, 2007, 02:24:46 PM
i looked like shit i really would ratehr not post what i have    ..but contrary to popular belief  my added weight was nto from insulin i deite don alot carbs to try to maintain weight base don what the JUDGES told me to do

who are you king kamali?

how did you not know that overeating would get you smooth?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 07, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
who are you king kamali?

how did you not know that overeating would get you smooth?

not his fault.  tried to keep carbs high to gain weight and be a HWT... he will eventually it was just too soon
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 07, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
not his fault.  tried to keep carbs high to gain weight and be a HWT... he will eventually it was just too soon

who's fault was it then?  God's?   ::)
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 07, 2007, 07:34:59 PM
who's fault was it then?  God's?   ::)

bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 07, 2007, 07:47:43 PM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show

laura ashley wallpaper, were you at some old auntie's?   
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 07, 2007, 07:48:44 PM
laura ashley wallpaper, were you at some old auntie's?   


house came that way   lol    i am alazy fuck when it comes to that shit

who in the hell is laura ashley?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 07, 2007, 08:33:07 PM

house came that way   lol    i am alazy fuck when it comes to that shit

who in the hell is laura ashley?

some old english bag with rotten teeth who thought she knew someting about pattern and decoration
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2007, 08:56:23 PM
Daddy honestly, when are you going to start working out.  Just wondering. The super skinny thing is great, but with your talking I thought you lifted weights.  Are there any gyms in the woods where you live.

no, just some emotional barbell (one side heavier then the other) curls,

ALL BICEPS.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: gh15 on September 07, 2007, 11:44:39 PM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show

now we talking business!!,alot better,,dont overdue diets and only count on one single thing which is the mirror wether you do it heavy or lightheavy wont matter as long as you dont overdue diets and keep things simple
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Scott Markey on September 08, 2007, 12:17:58 AM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show
No Dzulboy. BAST IS.... A MORON ! He kisses my as on here and Mayhem. Sending me Pms. With the " I'm just f-n with you dude". And then asking for training advice, He will do the same with you too. He is the biggest ass kisser on here. No need to go over it anymore. You were holding a little water and you know that. I bet the next time we see you. You will blow some minds. Anyone with a trained bb eye can see what happened. You had the balls to come on and flame yourself. No Need. You have an " AWESOME " physique and thats a fact. Anyone can have a bad day.  As bad as you think you looked. It's still amazing!
Cheers. :)

Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: MattT on September 08, 2007, 12:31:09 AM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show

lookin thick there bro, for 5 days out u look pretty good.  Post a few contest pics..
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Honour on September 08, 2007, 12:51:01 AM
Dzulboy your a freak mate and I'd give my left nut to look half as good as you.....oh hang on the left one is bigger, i'd give my right nut instead ;D.......but you get the picture 8).
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: flexingtonsteele on September 08, 2007, 01:16:45 AM
Bro if you would have stepped onstage lookin like that u would have been top 6.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 01:48:47 AM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show
u ARE STARTING TO RUIN YOUR SIMETRY...GUT CHECK...JUST DON'T CHASE SIZE FAST AND AT ALL COSTS/....A NICE MIDSECTION IS PRICELESS ...MY 23 CENTS
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: windsor88 on September 08, 2007, 01:53:53 AM
u ARE STARTING TO RUIN YOUR SIMETRY...GUT CHECK...JUST DON'T CHASE SIZE FAST AND AT ALL COSTS/....A NICE MIDSECTION IS PRICELESS ...MY 23 CENTS

Yeah I am sure he would need your advice.   ::)




SEVASTASE..What a monster.. ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164878.0;attach=193254;image) 
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:01:08 AM
MAYBE HE NEEDS AN HONEST OPPINION. HERE i'LL GIVE U ANOTHER PIC LOOKING EVEN SMALLER
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:02:29 AM
WINDSOR..CONSIDERING U ARE AN 42 YO SOFTBALL PLAYER ... :'(
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: windsor88 on September 08, 2007, 02:07:42 AM
I am 37 dickweed.  Is that second one recent?  Actually got some good abs there.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Honour on September 08, 2007, 02:11:48 AM
Nice abs there sevastase.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:23:12 AM
I am 37 dickweed.  Is that second one recent?  Actually got some good abs there.
37 ?....is that over or under 50 ?
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Andre Nickatina on September 08, 2007, 02:30:56 AM
Sevestes jocks the bitches with those abs  ::)

you should learn to be nicer sevestes. you might land a girl thats not as ugly as you are.

Epic negative amount of game.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:33:29 AM
Sevestes jocks the bitches with those abs  ::)

you should learn to be nicer sevestes. you might land a girl thats not as ugly as you are.

Epic negative amount of game.
That was a student of mine..tennis student that is...here's another one with her friend
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:34:24 AM
And she's 14-15 in that photo...not my cup of tea anyway. ;)
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: windsor88 on September 08, 2007, 02:35:53 AM
And she's 14-15 in that photo...not my cup of tea anyway. ;)

What?  You don't like pussy?
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Cleanest Natural on September 08, 2007, 02:38:08 AM
What?  You don't like pussy?
well...your mom was ok...but a 14 yo...dunno.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Andre Nickatina on September 08, 2007, 02:41:28 AM
That was a student of mine..tennis student that is...here's another one with her friend

You put your arm around all of your students waistes ay? Not very professional there little sevvers.

Oh well. I'll take your word for it this time.
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 08, 2007, 04:23:39 AM
u ARE STARTING TO RUIN YOUR SIMETRY...GUT CHECK...JUST DON'T CHASE SIZE FAST AND AT ALL COSTS/....A NICE MIDSECTION IS PRICELESS ...MY 23 CENTS

its called a rebound dickweed.  you know...eating a lot after your show because you are starving and depleted?  You never got in any kind of shape to require that, so i cant expect you to undestand... its ok tho... stick to swimming
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2007, 06:10:06 AM
monster 21 inch cum propellers on severdpeas
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166539.0;attach=193935;image)
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2007, 06:13:08 AM
legendary after show rage pics including enhanced water retention after grandma dookies dookie pie (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=166539.0;attach=193906;image)
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: nycbull on September 08, 2007, 06:41:56 AM
Daddyw, tell us more aobut your paypal  fitness counseling service. Total bargain if you ask me.

Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: donrhummy on September 08, 2007, 06:51:28 AM
i didn;t even place at the north americans ....

flame away


ps i am in cali on a photo shoot . i can;t tlook that bad, can i?

You looked good but I'd say there were two issues:

1. Need a tad more muscle fullness (this comes with time)
2. Like you said, their conditioning is ridiculous. You were far from smooth but compared to the other guys, you looked it.

You looked great, just need to get yourself someone to help (bob Chic?) with the conditioning.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2007, 07:11:58 AM
Daddyw, tell us more aobut your paypal  fitness counseling service. Total bargain if you ask me.



they are for anyone who wants to become a natural legend
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: windsor88 on September 08, 2007, 04:24:04 PM
its called a rebound dickweed.  you know...eating a lot after your show because you are starving and depleted?  You never got in any kind of shape to require that, so i cant expect you to undestand... its ok tho... stick to swimming

lol...OWNED !!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 08, 2007, 05:21:10 PM
lol...OWNED !!!

thats a great avatar
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Alex23 on September 08, 2007, 08:39:01 PM
they are for anyone who wants to become a natural legend

Are you a legend?
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: garraeth on September 08, 2007, 09:29:30 PM
(http://www.wpse.com/images/sevastase_gives_advice.jpg)
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: windsor88 on September 08, 2007, 09:32:40 PM
^
nice   ;D
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Honour on September 08, 2007, 10:04:11 PM
lol very creative garraeth ;D.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on September 08, 2007, 11:33:23 PM
(http://www.wpse.com/images/sevastase_gives_advice.jpg)

you must have a lot of time on your hands........
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: garraeth on September 09, 2007, 01:29:00 AM
you must have a lot of time on your hands........
I take it you are a fan of sevastase.
No, it took no more than 5 minutes to whip out that masterpiece. But of course, if you are a moron, it would take you several hours. I guess that is where you are coming from.  ::)
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: webcake on September 09, 2007, 01:32:30 AM
lol, good one Garraeth
 ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 09, 2007, 10:58:13 AM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show

 ::)

do you have a problem finding the apostrophe and backspace keys?
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: columbusdude82 on September 09, 2007, 02:14:23 PM
dzulboy, you have by far one of the very best physiques on here or any board even!

I know I've told you this before, but it is YOUR physique that any young guy would rather have, over that of almost any pro!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 09, 2007, 03:27:55 PM
::)

do you have a problem finding the apostrophe and backspace keys?


i'll look for them right after we find your calves
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: columbusdude82 on September 09, 2007, 03:44:30 PM

i'll look for them right after we find your calves

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA PWND!!!!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 09, 2007, 07:10:50 PM

i'll look for them right after we find your calves

well i guess we both have genetic flaws, me with my calves and you with your stupidity.   ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 09, 2007, 07:16:13 PM
well i guess we both have genetic flaws, me with my calves and you with your stupidity.   ;D


bad typing skills=stupidity?

you must have rode the short bus to school
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 09, 2007, 07:19:21 PM

bad typing skills=stupidity?

you must have rode the short bus to school

Yes, the inability to learn is stupidity. 
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: Bastygone on September 09, 2007, 07:23:10 PM
Yes, the inability to learn is stupidity. 


Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on September 09, 2007, 07:24:20 PM
bast..... how many accounts do you have?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 09, 2007, 08:27:29 PM
Yes, the inability to learn is stupidity. 


actually stupidity   is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a diffrent outcome

i knwo my typing sucks and i am not expecting diffrent results   so how is it stupidity


laziness maybe
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: eastcoastbbman on September 09, 2007, 08:30:27 PM
bast youare fucking moron at times

for everyone s viewing enjopyment me fat and happy 5 days after the show








HOLY SHIT, CHRIS!!! YOU LOOK HUGE!!! what you weighing now? i hit 240 yesterday. lol!! im a pig!!
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 09, 2007, 08:50:16 PM
actually stupidity   is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a diffrent outcome

i knwo my typing sucks and i am not expecting diffrent results   so how is it stupidity


laziness maybe
\

thats the definition of insanity actually lol
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 09, 2007, 08:57:54 PM
\

thats the definition of insanity actually lol

perserverance   hey phil you wanna train me for the mountain valley
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 09, 2007, 08:59:14 PM







HOLY SHIT, CHRIS!!! YOU LOOK HUGE!!! what you weighing now? i hit 240 yesterday. lol!! im a pig!!

228     i am gonna be in delaware on the 17th we should hit the gym  for a workout
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: TooPowerful4u on September 10, 2007, 05:42:29 AM
perserverance   hey phil you wanna train me for the mountain valley

Why not do Nationals at LHWT?  Call me later....
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 10, 2007, 05:47:37 AM
Why not do Nationals at LHWT?  Call me later....

ican;t make that weight anymore even if i wanted to  i went in three shows at 198   on the dot and the only one i looked good doing it in i was flat and dry
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: eastcoastbbman on September 10, 2007, 11:42:19 AM
228     i am gonna be in delaware on the 17th we should hit the gym  for a workout






the 17th is a monday. how long will you be in de.? would love to hit a bodypart or two with you.
Title: Re: I got destroyed....
Post by: michael arvilla on September 10, 2007, 02:10:16 PM
You got a bright future in bodybuilding kid..................... ....
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: davidpaul on September 10, 2007, 02:12:51 PM





the 17th is a monday. how long will you be in de.? would love to hit a bodypart or two with you.

I bet you would
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: ironneck on September 10, 2007, 03:21:31 PM
I bet you would

 ;D
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: bigdumbbell on September 10, 2007, 03:24:57 PM





the 17th is a monday. how long will you be in de.? would love to hit a bodypart or two with you.

Love?   that's kinda sweet, no?
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: dzulboy on September 10, 2007, 07:05:36 PM





the 17th is a monday. how long will you be in de.? would love to hit a bodypart or two with you.

just for the day w i will be at both vitamin shoppes in wilmington until 7 pm i could train after that
Title: Re: well i got destroyed
Post by: Bast000 on September 12, 2007, 09:13:18 PM
No Dzulboy. BAST IS.... A MORON ! He kisses my as on here and Mayhem. Sending me Pms. With the " I'm just f-n with you dude". And then asking for training advice



 ::)

I don't post on muscle mayhem.  I did like 3+ years ago before I came here.