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98 EASY........CLENBUTEROL. ......WINSTROL EVERY 4TH DAY 100MGS.....ANADROL 50 1 ADAY THE LAST 5 WEKS................AND A LITTLE HALO LAST 3 WEEKS........
97 IRONMAN WHEN IGOT 2ND TO FLEX ALL I USED WAS WINSTROL AND CLEN AND A LITTLE T3 THAT WAS IT...THAT WAS ALL I USED IN AIUSTRALIA BEFORE A SHOW.......AS FOR MY TEST WHEN I COME OFF...IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO NORMAL....I HAVE BEEN OFF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR I AM 250 FEEL GOOD HAD BLOOD WORK DONE LAST WEEK TEST LEVEL WAS 285.........I STARTED USING WHEN I WAS 19....SO I HAVE ONLY USED ON AND OFF FOR 16 YEARS........MORE OFF THEN ON........I HAVE NEEVR RELIED ON THEM ...DO THAT THEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE.........I HAVE BEEN COMPETING IN THE PRO SINCE 92.......AND STILL HERE.I HAVE SEEN ALOT COME AND GO........MYSELF RONNIE AND CHRIS ARE THE ONLY ONES FROM THE EARLY 90S AND VINCE NOW HE CAME BACK...I SEE ALL THESE SO CALLED NEW GUYS COMING UP WHO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE IN THERE 40S WHEN THEY AR ONLY IN THIER 20S........ITS ABOUT LONGEVITY....I GIVE SHAWN CREDIT FOR STAYING IN IT AND LOOKING GOOD FOR AS LONG AS HE DID......
TIRED GH IN 94 THEN 2000 AND DIDNT REALLY NOTICE MUCH I WAS ONLY TAKING 4IU ADAY...BUT FOR THE MONEY I FIGURED F U C K THAT SAND STUCK TO WINSTRL ALL THE TIME...I JUST DO WHAT I KNOW WORKS FOR ME
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Translation:
Weeks 1-16
Test E 1-8 1000 mg a week
Tren ACE 75mg ed last 8 weeks
8-16 150 prop EOD
Winni 150 mg ed for last 8 weeks
Halo 75 mg a day last 6 weeks
Clen 100-200 mcg a day last 10 weeks...... ::)
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Mini dosage claimers are as ridicolous as Monster poundage claimers.
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Milos says the pro's only use 750mg test and 250-100mg of other anabolics, so it must be true.
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I don't know why everyone finds it so hard to believe. My friend can just about max out his frame on 200 mg of test a week and he was repping 365 around 17-18.
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I HAVE NEEVR RELIED ON THEM ...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Lee has great genes, so his claims are believeable. Either way, he was always one of the best and one of my favorites. His claimed dosages mean shit to me.
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Bodybuilders lying about their drug regimens?
Never.... ::)
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It's very believable I have a guy who comes to my store named rick, dude weighs about 215 5%bf (NOT KIDDING) year round, works his ass off though. HUGE ARMS very very thick his genetics are CRAZY on prohormones he gets up to 220 and looks INSANE huge huge veins and shit, on just a little juice he would be a competitive pro. Probably would be competitive around 225 as a pro and I'm not kidding. For as blessed as he is he can't be the only one, and surely there has to be guys even more blessed.
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booooooooooooooooooollll llllllllllshhhhhhhhhhiii iiiiiiiiiiittttttttttt.
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i believe it..there are freaks everywhere, some people just like to work their ass off, ever thought of that people.
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I don't know why everyone finds it so hard to believe. My friend can just about max out his frame on 200 mg of test a week and he was repping 365 around 17-18.
He ran more than that, didn't he???
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repping 365 for 16-17 on what lift?
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Priest is a pathological liar. History shows that his word means shit!
Thank Christ, this 5 foot 4 inch illiterate is no more!
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hahahahhaa, calm down Hank, it ain't that serious, go have your boyfriend squeeze you off a ball gravy protein shake.
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Bullfuckingshit.
8)
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Where are you digging all these up, Mad Nickels? This is good stuff. Alot of this stuff could totally be recycled right now, like you're doing. I had completely forgotten about these. Or is this Priest one new? I remember reading something similar by him though.
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Priest's credibility is nonexistent. He was an embarrassment to the sport.
Priest would lie prolifically if he believed it would give him some edge!
Lee is now one of the most hated and reviled Pros to have every pulled on a thong!
Good riddance to the midget; who never really 'won anything' that mattered!
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Milos says the pro's only use 750mg test and 250-100mg of other anabolics, so it must be true.
There must be some truth to this cause i can't see ppl like him, lee, shawn etc. megadosing for over 10 years without consequences. Some upcoming pros megadose and half their organs fail before they even get to the top.
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It's very believable I have a guy who comes to my store named rick, dude weighs about 215 5%bf (NOT KIDDING) year round, works his ass off though. HUGE ARMS very very thick his genetics are CRAZY on prohormones he gets up to 220 and looks INSANE huge huge veins and shit, on just a little juice he would be a competitive pro. Probably would be competitive around 225 as a pro and I'm not kidding. For as blessed as he is he can't be the only one, and surely there has to be guys even more blessed.
I totally believe this.....A friend at my gym ( who competed with me 2 weeks ago natural ) is exactly like this. He lives on pizza and everything Max Muscle carrys and is a freak. He took 2nd in open heavys at the Sacramento after a 3 week diet. Pic is on the MD website if proof is needed. I have no reason to B.S........if I did not know him very well I would be sceptical also.
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Translation:
Weeks 1-16
Test E 1-8 1000 mg a week
Tren ACE 75mg ed last 8 weeks
8-16 150 prop EOD
Winni 150 mg ed for last 8 weeks
Halo 75 mg a day last 6 weeks
Clen 100-200 mcg a day last 10 weeks...... ::)
Exactly. This is just Lee's way of saying that he can beat any of the top pro's basically doing a quarter of the drugs they do.
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If Lee Priest was really able to place as well as he did with such low dosages, he would have been tempted to up the dosages to what other pros take to see if it'll help him place better. Logically it doesn't make sense. has to be a lie.
What does GH15 think of this?? :)
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it seems that everyone knows a genetic mutant except me..my friends are normal people that eat and drink too much and gain 5-10lbs on average every year..then they work out from Jan 1st - Jan15th only
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As Cathy pointed out; Lee only has 'on-line friends' these days!
Yes, the munchkin has been abandoned by almost everyone!
Why?
Because no one wants to be associated with this liar anymore!
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He ran more than that, didn't he???
NEVER!!
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what is Lee's status with the IFBB?
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I totally believe this.....A friend at my gym ( who competed with me 2 weeks ago natural ) is exactly like this. He lives on pizza and everything Max Muscle carrys and is a freak. He took 2nd in open heavys at the Sacramento after a 3 week diet. Pic is on the MD website if proof is needed. I have no reason to B.S........if I did not know him very well I would be sceptical also.
this him? looks great for natural! what's his stats?
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=14030&eventcode=1208
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If Lee Priest was really able to place as well as he did with such low dosages, he would have been tempted to up the dosages to what other pros take to see if it'll help him place better. Logically it doesn't make sense. has to be a lie.
What does GH15 think of this?? :)
thats what gh15 think of this
1. priest doesnt tell the truth but he doesnt have to and i wouldnt either under my real identity
2. best natural genetics ever belongs to the brotherhood and who is this brotherood: ron colman,,shawn ray,,ken wheeler cant stand him but he got the genes etc you see the comon trend? it is one word BLACK,,now those guys wif were natural status would get no where in bodybuilding comparing to what they got in reality ...and they have the best physiqes if natural so you think for yourself,,white guys are secondary to black guys when it comes to natural muscularity! its true in 90% of cases not all but 90%,,take a good look at the black kid from england,,i do believe he is natural,,now take a white guy with no hormones and you will see what i mean
natural bodybuilding does not exist as of 2007
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It's very believable I have a guy who comes to my store named rick, dude weighs about 215 5%bf (NOT KIDDING) year round, works his ass off though. HUGE ARMS very very thick his genetics are CRAZY on prohormones he gets up to 220 and looks INSANE huge huge veins and shit, on just a little juice he would be a competitive pro. Probably would be competitive around 225 as a pro and I'm not kidding. For as blessed as he is he can't be the only one, and surely there has to be guys even more blessed.
na not in this earth maybe hes from another galaxy though who knows,,
this is where natural freak ends ill even write it for you:
white guys ,,mostly eastern europe check republic,,russia german,,230lb 10% at 6'1 with good muscle shape
black guys 250lb 6'1 13-15%
those 2 gguys will be the natural freaks among a group of 1000 bodybuilders that are truly natural
there arms will mesure 19.5-20.5 inches and they most likley been experiemnted with the drug called dianabol here and there but nothing to take them off natural status in the eye of the average bodybuilder
anything you describe above is imagination at best,,you dont walk around 5% unless you are on hormones and related drugs especially not at anything over 200lb unless you are 6'6 but even then you are a user
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Preist has made a career out of lies and fabrications; and yes, he has been judged accordingly.
This very short man has only himself to blame! He really did take the bitching, whining, backstabbing and moaning about the industry a little too far!
Lee, has had to learn the hard way. Hopefully he now understands that 'being truthfu'l is the only honorable path to success!
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it seems that everyone knows a genetic mutant except me..my friends are normal people that eat and drink too much and gain 5-10lbs on average every year..then they work out from Jan 1st - Jan15th only
even freaks tend to brag about how they eat pizza all day and don't gain any weight.. But if you watch closely, you'll realize it all comes down to a cetain amount of calories, protein etc, even for the freaks. Like this black guy I know says he doesn't care about his diet and eats chicken, but hanging with him showed me that he eats like 2 meals a day.. And averages probably less than 2k in calories or slightly more in a day, which is probably the reason he's ripped.
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Hank you are giving me a headache with your rantings about Lee. We all know you would just love to go down on him. Pity he is straight or you might have stood a chance. Why don't you be nice for a bit and maybe Santa will bring you a litttle gift.
If not I swear I'll pay for your sex change myself...now go to bed Harriet and we'll discuss your obsession with Lee later.
Who the hell cares what he's done. They all use...to what extent is their business. As long as they do what they set out to do and do it well...
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Where are you digging all these up, Mad Nickels? This is good stuff. Alot of this stuff could totally be recycled right now, like you're doing. I had completely forgotten about these. Or is this Priest one new? I remember reading something similar by him though.
Direct hit. This troll just dug up an old Priest post and 'omitted' the post info. I remember reading the original a year/2 back.
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what is Lee's status with the IFBB?
Banned for life, even though the IFBB lied to him and told him he was suspended for 12 months. >:(
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Maybe the fact that Lee was spoilt rotten by his Mommy and Grandparents as a child, goes to explain why he mutated into a compulsive liar?
I allege that, the prepubescent Lee, discovered that by 'making up stories' he could garner both sympathy and favours from his family members! Lee simply developed and refined this 'skill to lie' into adulthood; with varying degrees of success.
Yes, Priest got away with lying for more than 2 decades. However, this 'snake' has now been exposed; thanks to the likes of Manion, Chang and a plethora of industry people!
Yes, Priest is your regular 'snake in the grass'.
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Oooohhhh....bet you can't stop thinking of "his snake in your grass ;D"
Does he make you horny Hanky?
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Where are you digging all these up, Mad Nickels? This is good stuff. Alot of this stuff could totally be recycled right now, like you're doing. I had completely forgotten about these. Or is this Priest one new? I remember reading something similar by him though.
some is google cache, others is stuff i saved in pursuit of my own anabolic bliss ;D
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I took Test Cyp 200mg for 6 months straight in 1986 everyday- 1cc. The day after the IAC worlds I quit and have never taken a thing since. ALmost ten years after my last shot I did a 505 incline for one. That is with a pause at the bottom. I lost some strength and hardness when I got off but that mainly due to me not lifting like I did when I was competing. When I started to train with Joe Onasai, Francis Silva, Tony Leiato, Anthony Harris and some other big boys in the early 90's that when I started getting really strong again.
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Priest you are such the rebel...Yes, another alter-ego-lie you have been living!
Bottom line midget, society views you as monster! We have all heard the recent stories of you being laughed and jeered at Dallas Airport....hahahahha.
Rot in your stinking mess, you bloated piece of shit!
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When I started to train with Joe Onasai, Francis Silva, Tony Leiato, Anthony Harris and some other big boys in the early 90's that when I started getting really strong again.
name dropping... tsk tsk
I wonder if any of these people list you as one of their impressive friends. My guess is no.
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name dropping... tsk tsk
Keith name dropping?? :o
I don't believe it! >:(
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Calm down there Harriet. You will give yourself a heart attack if you don't take a deep breath. I feel your pain. I once loved a man that didn't love me back. Yes, I resorted to calling him all sorts of names. That ended up to be a big mistake. I suggest you tell him how much you love him, how you've longed to feel his strong muscular arms wrapped around you.
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I work out with jesus.....
he's a monsta
;)
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this him? looks great for natural! what's his stats?
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=browse&id=14030&eventcode=1208
He's about as natural as Pamela Anderson's bust or Micheal Jackson's face.
Onlyme,
"I took Test Cyp 200mg for 6 months straight in 1986 everyday- 1cc. The day after the IAC worlds I quit and have never taken a thing since. ALmost ten years after my last shot I did a 505 incline for one. That is with a pause at the bottom."
Good job, you inclined your bodyweight for 1 rep on the incline bench. What type of oxygen machine did you hook up to after your one rep?
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Hey Priest, how does it feel to be 'called out' as one of the industries most toxic liars?
Thank Christ we have seen the last of you!
You know what Priest, with your fifth grade education and gutter talk, the industry is in much better shape since your demise-into-bodybuilding-nothingness!
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98 EASY........CLENBUTEROL. ......WINSTROL EVERY 4TH DAY 100MGS.....ANADROL 50 1 ADAY THE LAST 5 WEKS................AND A LITTLE HALO LAST 3 WEEKS........
97 IRONMAN WHEN IGOT 2ND TO FLEX ALL I USED WAS WINSTROL AND CLEN AND A LITTLE T3 THAT WAS IT...THAT WAS ALL I USED IN AIUSTRALIA BEFORE A SHOW.......AS FOR MY TEST WHEN I COME OFF...IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO NORMAL....I HAVE BEEN OFF SINCE SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR I AM 250 FEEL GOOD HAD BLOOD WORK DONE LAST WEEK TEST LEVEL WAS 285.........I STARTED USING WHEN I WAS 19....SO I HAVE ONLY USED ON AND OFF FOR 16 YEARS........MORE OFF THEN ON........I HAVE NEEVR RELIED ON THEM ...DO THAT THEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE.........I HAVE BEEN COMPETING IN THE PRO SINCE 92.......AND STILL HERE.I HAVE SEEN ALOT COME AND GO........MYSELF RONNIE AND CHRIS ARE THE ONLY ONES FROM THE EARLY 90S AND VINCE NOW HE CAME BACK...I SEE ALL THESE SO CALLED NEW GUYS COMING UP WHO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE IN THERE 40S WHEN THEY AR ONLY IN THIER 20S........ITS ABOUT LONGEVITY....I GIVE SHAWN CREDIT FOR STAYING IN IT AND LOOKING GOOD FOR AS LONG AS HE DID......
TIRED GH IN 94 THEN 2000 AND DIDNT REALLY NOTICE MUCH I WAS ONLY TAKING 4IU ADAY...BUT FOR THE MONEY I FIGURED F U C K THAT SAND STUCK TO WINSTRL ALL THE TIME...I JUST DO WHAT I KNOW WORKS FOR ME
Brutal androposal level average is 600ng/ml. Bullshit on the whole post.
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Seems with his education or lack of it, he's done more than you could ever dream of. You must feel very insignificant knowing that no matter how hard you work, you will never do what he did in the bodybuilding industry.
Oh Hank...stop frothing at the mouth over your lust for Lee. Go to your shrine and start praying(you are a religious man) and who knows...he might notice that you exist.
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If you not around these guys 24-7, you dont know what the hell they taken!!
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Lee, lives by the motto;
'If you repeat the lie again and again, then the lie becomes the truth'.
Lee, your life has become one obscene rationalization after another....
The fact is Priest, nobody believes a liar....
Now surely, someone with a 'pea brain' like yourself, can understand this concept?
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Lee is a TRUE FREAK.
The fact is that he looked far better at 19 than any of us could ever look regardless of the amount of drugs we could ever get our paws on.
We all know guys who are juiced to the gills and still look like crap.
So why not give credit to a guy who doesn't need a lot of gear to look sick?
GET BIG NATION
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He ran more than that, didn't he???
Do you ever wonder why you could suffer through college to get a degree, and still convince yourself that your 3 week out of a contest binges were helping you?
Were you depressed when you were "into" meth, or was it just a fun time for you?
Why do you periodically care about bodybuilding when you're never going to do what it takes to get into shape? And, you know the talk at your work about your "transformation" will be more trouble than it is worth, right?
It's okay Jeff, I don't expect an answer.
Is Mike doing better lately? Or is he still struggling?
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Lee is a TRUE FREAK.
The fact is that he looked far better at 19 than any of us could ever look regardless of the amount of drugs we could ever get our paws on.
We all know guys who are juiced to the gills and still look like crap.
So why not give credit to a guy who doesn't need a lot of gear to look sick?
GET BIG NATION
Lee was juicing @ 19 , he failed a drug test at the worlds.I beleive he started "using" at 14 but that is speculation,hope this helps
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Lee is a TRUE FREAK.
The fact is that he looked far better at 19 than any of us could ever look regardless of the amount of drugs we could ever get our paws on.
We all know guys who are juiced to the gills and still look like crap.
So why not give credit to a guy who doesn't need a lot of gear to look sick?
GET BIG NATION
amen
the guy was and still is a freak..
and he got shafted various times in his career.. Maybe the greatest short bb'er of alltime.
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Lee was juicing @ 19 , he failed a drug test at the worlds.I beleive he started "using" at 14 but that is speculation,hope this helps
Your speculation just made us all feel better about our lack of progress. Thanks for finding that out.
I'm so glad I have a viable excuse for my failures now.
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Your speculation just made us all feel better about our lack of progress. Thanks for finding that out.
I'm so glad I have a viable excuse for my failures now.
Its not my speculation so i cant take credit for helping with your failure as a person ;D
Failed drug test at 19 is 100 % true though
I was just pointing out ,you cant compare him at 19 to your average gym junkie as he had already been on the top up hormone route for a while.
Clear??
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Its not my speculation so i cant take credit for helping with your failure as a person ;D
Failed drug test at 19 is 100 % true though
I was just pointing out ,you cant compare him at 19 to your average gym junkie as he had already been on the top up hormone route for a while.
Clear??
Of course.
your average gym junkie looks like us. Clearly he was using something that we're not, right?
If you and I had access to what he does, we'd be huge!
I'm so glad we can talk about what happened 15 years ago and use it to hide our insecurities.
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Milos says the pro's only use 750mg test and 250-100mg of other anabolics, so it must be true.
No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!
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No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!
why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?
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why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?
It is more anabolic the sex hormones.
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It is more anabolic the sex hormones.
hahahha, yeah but at what price? looking like Cutler at the Olympia?
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No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!
Do you know a lot about insulin?
How does insulin's effect on its receptor effect oxidation of fatty acids? I've always been curious about that.
I'm guessing that because you know so much about it, you'll be able to tell me that.
Does insulin have a pronounced effect on glycogenesis? If it does, why is this important?
Actually, you're so lean right now it may not be safe for you to use the precious amount of glucose it would take to explain the intricate details of the physiology of insulin to me.
Just focus on your show for now.
When the show is done, and the ability of your neural synapses to conduct proper chemical messages is restored, you can inform us all about the true effects of insulin.
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why would anyone in their right mind besides a diabetic take insulin?
I agree, you'd have to believe that it's safe to use that in that quantity, Milos' has a tenency to mislead in believing it's safe, but it is the most powerful anabolic, but you're sacrificing size for your life. There have been studies that link small amount of insulin usage for longevity in the elderly.
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hahahha, yeah but at what price? looking like Cutler at the Olympia?
Derek Anthony once said (yea i know its really dependable) that GH was what bloated his gut. I have also known people to use it who praise it highly. Plus it is legal and easy to use.
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Do you know a lot about insulin?
How does insulin's effect on its receptor effect oxidation of fatty acids? I've always been curious about that.
I'm guessing that because you know so much about it, you'll be able to tell me that.
Does insulin have a pronounced effect on glycogenesis? If it does, why is this important?
Actually, you're so lean right now it may not be safe for you to use the precious amount of glucose it would take to explain the intricate details of the physiology of insulin to me.
Just focus on your show for now.
When the show is done, and the ability of your neural synapses to conduct proper chemical messages is restored, you can inform us all about the true effects of insulin.
Yes, I know enough to know that ost of what you say is correct, but effects in that quantity far outweigh the benefits. not only does it damage almost every internal organ, but screws up almost every delivery system in the endocrine system, long term effects are detramental epecially using that high of IU's.
By the way, unlike Milos', there have been clinical case studies on this that back precisly what I'm talking about.
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I agree, you'd have to believe that it's safe to use that in that quantity, Milos' has a tenency to mislead in believing it's safe, but it is the most powerful anabolic, but you're sacrificing size for your life. There have been studies that link small amount of insulin usage for longevity in the elderly.
You must have spent years studying this.
What symposiums can I hear your research at?
does insulin have any effect on glutamate binding? I'm not sure on this. If it does, is there an agonistic effect, or antagonistic effect on GABA? I'm guessing that as a CNS depressant, there would be a depresant effect. But, of course with how it effects the urinary excretion rate, one cannot be sure, right?
I'm so glad we have a master of endocrinology here to let us all know the truth!
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Derek Anthony once said (yea i know its really dependable) that GH was what bloated his gut. I have also known people to use it who praise it highly. Plus it is legal and easy to use.
GH won't do that, insulin will!
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You must have spent years studying this.
What symposiums can I hear your research at?
does insulin have any effect on glutamate binding? I'm not sure on this. If it does, is there an agonistic effect, or antagonistic effect on GABA? I'm guessing that as a CNS depressant, there would be a depresant effect. But, of course with how it effects the urinary excretion rate, one cannot be sure, right?
I'm so glad we have a master of endocrinology here to let us all know the truth!
gayer than cutting and pasting from google.
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Yes, I know enough to know that ost of what you say is correct, but effects in that quantity far outweigh the benefits. not only does it damage almost every internal organ, but screws up almost every delivery system in the endocrine system, long term effects are detramental epecially using that high of IU's.
By the way, unlike Milos', there have been clinical case studies on this that back precisly what I'm talking about.
I've often wondered if there were any definitive oxidative damages to organs. I'm so glad you cleared that up.
I bet you could make a fortune informing the doctor's of the world about this.
I've always figured that, while it was our ability to digest and utilize glucose for fuel that allowed us to reach such a high social stature, it would also be our demise from a health standpoint.
Mother nature sure is a bitch, right?
There is a big confrence on diabetes, oxidative damage, and insulin's unique effects on the insulin receptor here in the UK. Perhaps you could present your research for the world?
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gayer than cutting and pasting from google.
I know. Insulin has no effect on NMDA. What was I thinking by posting that?
I'm sure glad you created the implication that my post was taken as a direct quote from an internet site that google linked me to.
Egg is most certainly on my face.
I'm guessing that the plethora of nickels you've earned over the years is derived of an intellectual medium, right?
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I know. Insulin has no effect on NMDA. What was I thinking by posting that?
I'm sure glad you created the implication that my post was taken as a direct quote from an internet site that google linked me to.
Egg is most certainly on my face.
I'm guessing that the plethora of nickels you've earned over the years is derived of an intellectual medium, right?
Come to nevada for the O. I'll bitchslap your silly ass up and down the street.
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I've often wondered if there were any definitive oxidative damages to organs. I'm so glad you cleared that up.
I bet you could make a fortune informing the doctor's of the world about this.
I've always figured that, while it was our ability to digest and utilize glucose for fuel that allowed us to reach such a high social stature, it would also be our demise from a health standpoint.
Mother nature sure is a bitch, right?
There is a big confrence on diabetes, oxidative damage, and insulin's unique effects on the insulin receptor here in the UK. Perhaps you could present your research for the world?
LOL....check JAMA and the BJM, they are not my case studies, they are studies that I have read.
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GH won't do that, insulin will!
wheres your evidence?
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LOL....check JAMA and the BJM, they are not my case studies, they are studies that I have read.
Oh, "my bad."
I'm sure only peer reviewable literature allows proper "citing" of these studies. That must certainly be the reason you can't post these breakthrough studies here.
Do you frequent the MEDLINE source boards? Perhaps you can cite those links on the endocrinolgy section? Then, all of us can research them in full. I'm trusting that you have a MEDLINE account, and aren't just using misleading abstracts to base your knowledge on. Right, coach?
good luck on your show! That back fat is almost gone! You're going to tear apart those "youngsters!"
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Come to nevada for the O. I'll bitchslap your silly ass up and down the street.
Et tu Brute! You're quite the violent one. I bet you're a force to be reckoned with. What if the proposed situation didn't arise?
I'm not sure of the exact idea behind the proposition.
Am I agreeing to you "bitchslapping me up and down the street?"
In that realm, I'm clearly admiting defeat just by "catching your lob."
Am I allowed a bathroom break at any point? Please remember that I'm a bodybuilder, and must carry my gallon of water at all times. This causes frequent needs for urination.
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GH won't do that, insulin will!
How so?
Insulin in higher amounts will cause fat acclumination ,so you get adipose tissue like a fat tummy,the guts you see on the pros are not fat as there bodyfat levels are so low , in fact there skin is like cellophane.
The guts you see are from internal bloating e.g internal organ growth,are you saying insulin causes your internal organs to grow?first Iv heard that , iv always been under the impression that it was from high gear usage and GH abuse that caused this effect?
Oh Im a diabetic also.
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slin works how and what I think most dont care (not saying they shouldnt) but when people started all they took was 5iu max pre or post training and the look was amazing
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How so?
Insulin in higher amounts will cause fat acclumination ,so you get adipose tissue like a fat tummy,the guts you see on the pros are not fat as there bodyfat levels are so low , in fact there skin is like cellophane.
The guts you see are from internal bloating e.g internal organ growth,are you saying insulin causes your internal organs to grow?first Iv heard that , iv always been under the impression that it was from high gear usage and GH abuse that caused this effect?
Oh Im a diabetic also.
How does insulin cause fat "acclumination?"
Does the insulin itself increase production of an enzyme that reduces the oxdative rate of fatty acid usage? Or is it simply of an reductive nature in which insulin solely increases the potential for circulating triglycerides to be be taken to the fat cells and stored as fatty acids.
I'm still not certain of the mode of action.
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How so?
Insulin in higher amounts will cause fat acclumination ,so you get adipose tissue like a fat tummy,the guts you see on the pros are not fat as there bodyfat levels are so low , in fact there skin is like cellophane.
The guts you see are from internal bloating e.g internal organ growth,are you saying insulin causes your internal organs to grow?first Iv heard that , iv always been under the impression that it was from high gear usage and GH abuse that caused this effect?
Oh Im a diabetic also.
GH back in the day once again was used at 2iu MAX a day
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Alldrugs-still waiting for a response
Alex23-The average test level for a male is 300-1000ng/dl with many drug free athletes at the 500ng/dl mark.
Camel Jockey-blacks guys don't have to cut carbs like white guys do to cut fat so it is easier for them to stay cut. For them the real issue is saturated fats (if I remember correctly).
Hank Wood-Lee P owns your thoughts and dreams. I bet you rip his pic to shreds after you jerk off to it and then the vicious cycle begins again. Tool.
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Alldrugs-still waiting for a response
Alex23-The average test level for a male is 300-1000ng/dl with many drug free athletes at the 500ng/dl mark.
Camel Jockey-blacks guys don't have to cut carbs like white guys do to cut fat so it is easier for them to stay cut. For them the real issue is saturated fats (if I remember correctly).
Hank Wood-Lee P owns your thoughts and dreams. I bet you rip his pic to shreds after you jerk off to it and then the vicious cycle begins again. Tool.
hahahahha, are you inferring that "hank" is the type of guy who goes to a gay pride march with baseball bat in hand intent on beating some gays up but only ends up on his knees in the porta potty succking dick, Cap?
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hahahahha, are you inferring that "hank" is the type of guy who goes to a gay pride march with baseball bat in hand intent on beating some gays up but only ends up on his knees in the porta potty succking dick, Cap?
Word on the street is he likes to find guys to act out Full Metal Jacket scenes but unlike Private Pyle he does give reach-arounds.
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How does insulin cause fat "acclumination?"
Does the insulin itself increase production of an enzyme that reduces the oxdative rate of fatty acid usage? Or is it simply of an reductive nature in which insulin solely increases the potential for circulating triglycerides to be be taken to the fat cells and stored as fatty acids.
I'm still not certain of the mode of action.
Not sure why.
My doctors have always said inject it into fatty tissue/skin.Iv got down to quite lean states in the past but where I inject the slin always remained "fat" like a big layer of fatty skin,so I stopped injecting into my tummy and now go straight into my quads,delts,biceps etc basicly muscle and the tummy area that was a problem has reduced.
I know why they say inject into skin and not muscle as its slower released from fatty tissue and I have noticed this.
Since going into muscle it hits quicker but doesnt last as long.
BB at my gym who use it and are not diabetic like myself have also noticed the same effect as myself. ???
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hahah, what did Lee do to this twink "hank wood"?
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Oh, "my bad."
I'm sure only peer reviewable literature allows proper "citing" of these studies. That must certainly be the reason you can't post these breakthrough studies here.
Do you frequent the MEDLINE source boards? Perhaps you can cite those links on the endocrinolgy section? Then, all of us can research them in full. I'm trusting that you have a MEDLINE account, and aren't just using misleading abstracts to base your knowledge on. Right, coach?
good luck on your show! That back fat is almost gone! You're going to tear apart those "youngsters!"
Well Milos, since you only want to represent the side that is beneficial pretaining to bodybuilding, that must be the reason why you won't research the long (or depending on the person) or possibly short term effects it has on organ damage, you want to research, pay the $140.00 and you can pull up all the cited material you want, but oh, that's right, you said yourself that case studies were misleading, you don't think you mislead people when you say that insulin is safe? There's two sides to every study.
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Maybe Priest's 'relationship with the truth' became confused when he discovered that his biological father was in fact, pursuing an 'alternative lifestyle'?
I imagine this discovery would have seriously affected Lee's tenuous grip on reality. Hence his Superman-preoccupation and obsessive-lying!
queen, assess your unique sociopathology and tell us about it, huh?
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repping 365 for 16-17 on what lift?
Seated wrist curls.
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Maybe Priest's 'relationship with the truth' became confused when he discovered that his biological father was in fact, pursuing an 'alternative lifestyle'?
I imagine this discovery would have seriously affected Lee's tenuous grip on reality. Hence his Superman-preoccupation and obsessive-lying!
Try not to choke yourself too hard when you jerk off to the Superman costume pics. Loser...
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repping 365 for 16-17 on what lift?
Bench and that was at the age of 17-19. Not for 17-19 reps but i witnessed him doing 365 for 4-6.
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queen, assess your unique sociopathology and tell us about it, huh?
bumped for hank to respond
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I totally believe this.....A friend at my gym ( who competed with me 2 weeks ago natural ) is exactly like this. He lives on pizza and everything Max Muscle carrys and is a freak. He took 2nd in open heavys at the Sacramento after a 3 week diet. Pic is on the MD website if proof is needed. I have no reason to B.S........if I did not know him very well I would be sceptical also.
Yeah dude I'm blessed in the genetics dept, carry 225 with no prob but he makes me look like shit rick is talking about doing a show next year for fun we'll see...
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It's very believable I have a guy who comes to my store named rick, dude weighs about 215 5%bf (NOT KIDDING) year round, works his ass off though. HUGE ARMS very very thick his genetics are CRAZY on prohormones he gets up to 220 and looks INSANE huge huge veins and shit, on just a little juice he would be a competitive pro. Probably would be competitive around 225 as a pro and I'm not kidding. For as blessed as he is he can't be the only one, and surely there has to be guys even more blessed.
Height?
How do you know hes natural?
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Lee can curl 315lbs.
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Lee can curl 315lbs.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
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I read that the other day in an old Flex i was reading while on the bike at the gym, Lee said he curled 315 for 5.
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Curling 315lb is no big deal. I seen people do that in every gym I go too. I think the most Lee Priest curled was between 335-350 at 19-21 years old.
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Well Milos, since you only want to represent the side that is beneficial pretaining to bodybuilding, that must be the reason why you won't research the long (or depending on the person) or possibly short term effects it has on organ damage, you want to research, pay the $140.00 and you can pull up all the cited material you want, but oh, that's right, you said yourself that case studies were misleading, you don't think you mislead people when you say that insulin is safe? There's two sides to every study.
Could you cite the studies or PMID's for the studies where even short-term usage in healthy males caused definite organ damage (and all the other stuff you talk about)?
I have talked to a lot of people online who have access to medical libraries and they haven't been able to find such data. No data on exo-insulin damaging the pancreas for example (in fact used to save the pancreas from pancreatic cell death due to hyperglycemia).
I'm not saying insulin is safe. The long term effects in bodybuilders are unknown.
Coach, you'd do a huge favor for the community if you can convincingly argue your case! think about it, think about the kids here! You almost have an obligation here IMO!
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Lee Priest is an Bildenberg conference attendee.
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insulin leads to fat storage beccause insulin cues for all nutrients to be stored in the body, so proteins, fats, and carbs all alike are told to go into storage when insulin is released, in this case injected, into the body.
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People have this idea that the bigger you are, the more gear you must take. Ive head Bob Chick say about 3,342 times that many young amatuers use far more stuff than the pro's do.
Lee is very good at what he does in bodybuilding, he gives everything 100% and he's been doing it for a long time. Without the drugs Lee would still be unreal.
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Et tu Brute! You're quite the violent one. I bet you're a force to be reckoned with. What if the proposed situation didn't arise?
I'm not sure of the exact idea behind the proposition.
Am I agreeing to you "bitchslapping me up and down the street?"
In that realm, I'm clearly admiting defeat just by "catching your lob."
Am I allowed a bathroom break at any point? Please remember that I'm a bodybuilder, and must carry my gallon of water at all times. This causes frequent needs for urination.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor.
You sound like a bitter old man.
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People have this idea that the bigger you are, the more gear you must take. Ive head Bob Chick say about 3,342 times that many young amatuers use far more stuff than the pro's do.
Lee is very good at what he does in bodybuilding, he gives everything 100% and he's been doing it for a long time. Without the drugs Lee would still be unreal.
If anyone has seen Lee lately, he does look unreal. He looks as if he's a few weeks out from competing. The story is that he has been clean for 12months.
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insulin leads to fat storage beccause insulin cues for all nutrients to be stored in the body, so proteins, fats, and carbs all alike are told to go into storage when insulin is released, in this case injected, into the body.
beccause=because
Ron should give you "expert" stars. ::)
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Could you cite the studies or PMID's for the studies where even short-term usage in healthy males caused definite organ damage (and all the other stuff you talk about)?
I have talked to a lot of people online who have access to medical libraries and they haven't been able to find such data. No data on exo-insulin damaging the pancreas for example (in fact used to save the pancreas from pancreatic cell death due to hyperglycemia).
I'm not saying insulin is safe. The long term effects in bodybuilders are unknown.
Coach, you'd do a huge favor for the community if you can convincingly argue your case! think about it, think about the kids here! You almost have an obligation here IMO!
Van, I do have a subscription to JAMA but won't let me cut and paste the full artical, only the 150 word partial, this is just one, there are more.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/279/20/1613?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=insulin+and+bodybuilders&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT
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Van, I do have a subscription to JAMA but won't let me cut and paste the full artical, only the 150 word partial, this is just one, there are more.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/279/20/1613?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=insulin+and+bodybuilders&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT
Well, what does it say in short? Does it talk about risks apart from hypoglycemia? Going hypo is obviously dangerous but what about the other stuff you've talked about (organ damage etc)?
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Well, what does it say in short? Does it talk about risks apart from hypoglycemia? Going hypo is obviously dangerous but what about the other stuff you've talked about (organ damage etc)?
Sure, In short it talks about Hyperinsulinemia how it stimulates the uptake of glucose from the blood into the body's cells, then give's a chart of the potential problems related to Hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance. Some of these problems include Athrerosclerosis, hypertension, cronic inflammation, low HDL, type II diabetes, obesity and cancer.
While researching I came across this..........
Numerous published studies reveal that excess serum insulin (hyperinsulinemia) is a major health problem. High serum insulin promotes hypertension by impairing sodium balance.2,3 Too much insulin harms the kidneys.4 The vascular system is severely damaged by prolonged exposure to excess insulin.5,6 By acting as a catalyst in promoting cell growth, excess insulin increases the risk and progression of certain cancers.7-11 High insulin promotes the formation of beta-amyloid in brain cells and may contribute to the development of Alzheimer’s disease.12 Overproduction of insulin is even a contributory factor to prostate enlargement because of its effects in promoting the overgrowth of prostate cells.13
High serum insulin is associated with the development of abdominal obesity and the many health problems induced by abdominal obesity, including atherosclerosis and impotence.14-20 Obesity is associated with excess insulin and reduced insulin sensitivity, both risk factors for type II diabetes.
Perhaps the simplest way to evaluate the toxic effects of excess insulin is by examining its effects on human mortality. One study showed that over a 10-year period, the risk of dying was almost twice as great for those with the highest levels of insulin compared to those with the lowest.21 The study authors stated that hyperinsulinemia is associated with increased all-cause and cardiovascular mortality independent of other risk factors.
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Sure, In short it talks about Hyperinsulinemia how it stimulates the uptake of glucose from the blood into the body's cells, then give's a chart of the potential problems related to Hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance. Some of these problems include Athrerosclerosis, hypertension, cronic inflammation, low HDL, type II diabetes, obesity and cancer.
While researching I came across this..........
Numerous published studies reveal that excess serum insulin (hyperinsulinemia) is a major health problem. High serum insulin promotes hypertension by impairing sodium balance.2,3 Too much insulin harms the kidneys.4 The vascular system is severely damaged by prolonged exposure to excess insulin.5,6 By acting as a catalyst in promoting cell growth, excess insulin increases the risk and progression of certain cancers.7-11 High insulin promotes the formation of beta-amyloid in brain cells and may contribute to the development of Alzheimer’s disease.12 Overproduction of insulin is even a contributory factor to prostate enlargement because of its effects in promoting the overgrowth of prostate cells.13
High serum insulin is associated with the development of abdominal obesity and the many health problems induced by abdominal obesity, including atherosclerosis and impotence.14-20 Obesity is associated with excess insulin and reduced insulin sensitivity, both risk factors for type II diabetes.
Perhaps the simplest way to evaluate the toxic effects of excess insulin is by examining its effects on human mortality. One study showed that over a 10-year period, the risk of dying was almost twice as great for those with the highest levels of insulin compared to those with the lowest.21 The study authors stated that hyperinsulinemia is associated with increased all-cause and cardiovascular mortality independent of other risk factors.
OK, thanks.
The topic is, IMO, fairly complex in how this pertains to bodybuilders using insulin. For example, I'm sure Milos would counter saying this isn't relevant since the insulin is only elevated for a very short period of time. And I could question if endogenous hyperinsulinemia is the same as using exo insulin since in the former case it can be a response to being overweight/insulin resistant etc. It would be great if Milos was willing to debate the subject on the forums.
BTW, GH and even steroids can increase insulin levels.
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na not in this earth maybe hes from another galaxy though who knows,,
this is where natural freak ends ill even write it for you:
white guys ,,mostly eastern europe check republic,,russia german,,230lb 10% at 6'1 with good muscle shape
black guys 250lb 6'1 13-15%
those 2 gguys will be the natural freaks among a group of 1000 bodybuilders that are truly natural
there arms will mesure 19.5-20.5 inches and they most likley been experiemnted with the drug called dianabol here and there but nothing to take them off natural status in the eye of the average bodybuilder
anything you describe above is imagination at best,,you dont walk around 5% unless you are on hormones and related drugs especially not at anything over 200lb unless you are 6'6 but even then you are a user
I dont think he's taking anything, he doesn't know jack shit about gear and fucking blows up on prohormones when he takes them. He says he also eats pretty perfect year round to stay lean, he's lean as fuck trust me I'd like to ask him to get some picks on here but kinda hard not to come off fruity ya knoiw...Maybe i can get a couple shots of his arms at least.
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Milos says the pro's only use 750mg test and 250-100mg of other anabolics, so it must be true.
Well, i talked to some pro who is trained by Milos and he said that Milos cut his dosages in half first thing, and he still made more gains.
There is some truth to the saying "smarter, not harder", at least to a certain point, i believe.
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No, it IS true, but what he doesn't tell you is the 40-80IU's of insulin they use to make up for it. I'd much rather take more gear than that much insulin!
that's the key. ;)
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Curling 315lb is no big deal. I seen people do that in every gym I go too. I think the most Lee Priest curled was between 335-350 at 19-21 years old.
I heard Jason Cutler curled 315 for reps before he even set his foot in a gym first time.
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I heard Jason Cutler curled 315 for reps before he even set his foot in a gym first time.
No he benched 315.
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Confirmation can be found here:
http://www.ether.com/CallButton/LeePriest/6837880.aspx
I wouldn't bother really, what with world class transformation gurus such as milos, CT and of course candizzle posting free information here ;D
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Well, i talked to some pro who is trained by Milos and he said that Milos cut his dosages in half first thing, and he still made more gains.
There is some truth to the saying "smarter, not harder", at least to a certain point, i believe.
Theres a reason why he cut his dosages and says he still made more gains.....it's not smarter, it's more dangerous.
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OK, thanks.
The topic is, IMO, fairly complex in how this pertains to bodybuilders using insulin. For example, I'm sure Milos would counter saying this isn't relevant since the insulin is only elevated for a very short period of time.
BTW, GH and even steroids can increase insulin levels.
True, but whats the trade off, like I said, there have been studies that small amounts of insulin over a reletively long period will increase longevity in the elderly, but we are obviously not talking about the elderly, we are talking about BBer's who believe in most cases, more is better. One unit of insulin might be needed for 10 mg of glucose into a cell group for a normal person while the person Hyperinsulinemia might need 10 units of insulin and 10 mg of glucose into a cell group.........but we are not talking about 10 units, we are talking about 60, 80 or in some cases I've heard as much as 100 units, even for a short amount of time (16 weeks) those are HUGE amounts. Either way, you're playing with fire.
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GH won't do that, insulin will!
As detailed before it is the visceral fat between the abdominal wall and ab muscles that give that bloated look. And it's caused by insulin only.
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Theres a reason why he cut his dosages and says he still made more gains.....it's not smarter, it's more dangerous.
Care to elaborate? No picking, i would seriously like to hear your opinion on why this should be more dangerous.
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Coach, please?
why do you continue to post and speak on subjects that you know nothing about eg. insulin usage as an anabolic aid?
you don't use, you have no idea how to use, but you google it up on the internet and then speak as an authority, belying the pertinent fact that anyone can do that?
how about all the text books on endocrinolgy that state that testosterone is useless as an aid to building muscle?
leave it to the professionals that actually know what they're talking about and get back to deluding yourself that you have ever been anything more than a wannabe 70s reject.
oh, btw, how's the prep going for that show? got any pics of your super shredded muscle popping self???...no...didn't think so. ::)
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Care to elaborate? No picking, i would seriously like to hear your opinion on why this should be more dangerous.
Read reply #14.
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Coach, please?
why do you continue to post and speak on subjects that you know nothing about eg. insulin usage as an anabolic aid?
you don't use, you have no idea how to use, but you google it up on the internet and then speak as an authority, belying the pertinent fact that anyone can do that?
how about all the text books on endocrinolgy that state that testosterone is useless as an aid to building muscle?
leave it to the professionals that actually know what they're talking about and get back to deluding yourself that you have ever been anything more than a wannabe 70s reject.
oh, btw, how's the prep going for that show? got any pics of your super shredded muscle popping self???...no...didn't think so. ::)
Good to see you've still got the smartass answers with no relevance......something s never change eh "beast"?
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Care to elaborate? No picking, i would seriously like to hear your opinion on why this should be more dangerous.
Sorry, I meant reply #104.
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Good to see you've still got the smartass answers with no relevance......something s never change eh "beast"?
irony
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Sorry, I meant reply #104.
BS, hyperinsulinemia is permanent, 24/7.
That's a huuuuuuuuuge difference to bb-usage.
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insulin leads to fat storage beccause insulin cues for all nutrients to be stored in the body, so proteins, fats, and carbs all alike are told to go into storage when insulin is released, in this case injected, into the body.
Interesting.
Most creatures release shit from their anus. It appears you have the prodigious ability to shit from the neural synapses of your brain.
Your intellect is a chancre sore on society.
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I read an interview or something with Lee & he talked of using Test Suspension & such. Who cares what his doseages are really? If he wants to be honest great if not that's fine too. I'd rather have him underreport with he takes then have some kid overdo it trying to be like Lee.
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you don't use, you have no idea how to use,
oh, btw, how's the prep going for that show? got any pics of your super shredded muscle popping self???...no...didn't think so. ::)
1. You admittedly don't bodybuild but claim to know more than me, unlike most people on here, I choose to do a little research before I decide to do something as retarted as insulin without being a diabetic.
2. Last show prep is going great as planned, and if you look hard enough I posted a pic from three weeks out.........where are you're pics again?
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1. You admittedly don't bodybuild but claim to know more than me, unlike most people on here, I choose to do a little research before I decide to do something as retarted as insulin without being a diabetic.
2. Last show prep is going great as planned, and if you look hard enough I posted a pic from three weeks out.........where are you're pics again?
1. i do a great deal of weight training for strength development and don't comment on things i'm not familiar with ie i have a text book knowledge of insulin but i don't comment on its use for performance enhancement because i have no experience in it's practical use.
2. why on earth would i want to go find pics of a never was, never will be like you? if you could back your claims and felt as confident as your talk, you would post them right here. ;)
the last part makes no sense. 'where are you're pics again?' ??? if what you're trying to say is, where are your pics again? that's easy...i'm not a bber juicing for a contest claiming my muscles are popping better than any pro or am bber using insulin, which is why i was curious to see if you were confident enough to back yourself or that you were just full of piss and wind...again. ::)
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Coach, please?
why do you continue to post and speak on subjects that you know nothing about eg. insulin usage as an anabolic aid?
you don't use, you have no idea how to use, but you google it up on the internet and then speak as an authority, belying the pertinent fact that anyone can do that?
how about all the text books on endocrinolgy that state that testosterone is useless as an aid to building muscle?
leave it to the professionals that actually know what they're talking about and get back to deluding yourself that you have ever been anything more than a wannabe 70s reject.
oh, btw, how's the prep going for that show? got any pics of your super shredded muscle popping self???...no...didn't think so. ::)
+1
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1. i do a great deal of weight training for strength development and don't comment on things i'm not familiar with ie i have a text book knowledge of insulin but i don't comment on its use for performance enhancement because i have no experience in it's practical use.
2. why on earth would i want to go find pics of a never was, never will be like you? if you could back your claims and felt as confident as your talk, you would post them right here. ;)
the last part makes no sense. 'where are you're pics again?' ??? if what you're trying to say is, where are your pics again? that's easy...i'm not a bber juicing for a contest claiming my muscles are popping better than any pro or am bber using insulin, which is why i was curious to see if you were confident enough to back yourself or that you were just full of piss and wind...again. ::)
it's actually simple...if u got a good enough build u would pe posting pics. People want to see what u acomplished because u gain knowledge from personal expirience. My guess is that you are a newcomer of sorts...aka gym warrior internet wannabe who never developed any kind of muscle to speak of and u talk mainly from hearsay. That's Coach's point: wannabe.
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it's actually simple...if u got a good enough build u would pe posting pics. People want to see what u acomplished because u gain knowledge from personal expirience. My guess is that you are a newcomer of sorts...aka gym warrior internet wannabe who never developed any kind of muscle to speak of and u talk mainly from hearsay. That's Coach's point: wannabe.
not a bber and not remotely interested in becoming one. if i was i would compete on stage with other bbers, nto make futile delusional attempts to impress anonymous people on the ineternet. i'm just calling bullshit when i see it.
speaking of shit, why do you post pics and video of yourself lifting weights?
the way i see it, if you wanted to prove yourself against others as a bodybuilder/powerlifter, the appropriate medium would be to actually compete against bodybuilders/powerlifters ie posting pics and video of you by yourself or with sugar daddy lifting fake weights is actually a cop out. it screams, "i am too scared to bring it to a real competition so i'll whore myself on youtube and pray that someone will be impressed." epic lonely ass cry for attention.
thing is, the only people impressed are other scarf wearing sugar daddys. as you can see from the honest opinions of this forum, everyone just thinks you're a pathetic little wannabe with no muscular development to speak of. :D
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1. i do a great deal of weight training for strength development and don't comment on things i'm not familiar with ie i have a text book knowledge of insulin but i don't comment on its use for performance enhancement because i have no experience in it's practical use.
So what you're saying is that because someone has not used it they don't know about it? Is that what I'm hearing (reading)??
And you think my years of strength training with athletes is just from text book knowledge? Hahaha.....I've got news for you!!!
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Ha....here comes the peanut gallary..LOL!
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not a bber and not remotely interested in becoming one. if i was i would compete on stage with other bbers, nto make futile delusional attempts to impress anonymous people on the ineternet. i'm just calling bullshit when i see it.
speaking of shit, why do you post pics and video of yourself lifting weights?
the way i see it, if you wanted to prove yourself against others as a bodybuilder/powerlifter, the appropriate medium would be to actually compete against bodybuilders/powerlifters ie posting pics and video of you by yourself or with sugar daddy lifting fake weights is actually a cop out. it screams, "i am too scared to bring it to a real competition so i'll whore myself on youtube and pray that someone will be impressed." epic lonely ass cry for attention.
thing is, the only people impressed are other scarf wearing sugar daddys. as you can see from the honest opinions of this forum, everyone just thinks you're a pathetic little wannabe with no muscular development to speak of. :D
wow....not only u are becoming defensive but u bark more then u bite. You cannot talk like u know when u don't . that's that. Nothing against u but u wanna sound like u know like u belong and u don't. u don't lift big, so u got nothing to say on lifting heavy since u never experienced it. u don't look even decent so u got nothing to contribute about developement since u only saw it in magazines,. u are however able to name all the important muscle groups. bravo. so ; why are u even here ?....beast ::)
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if you could back your claims and felt as confident as your talk, you would post them right here. ;)
Here ya go, taken 4 days after the 3 week shots. No matter what, the haters will continue to hate, thats ok, 12 days left before retirement :D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
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Height?
How do you know hes natural?
He's about 5ft10 in all honesty he looks better than pretty much all juicers I've ever fucking met. Dude is unreal I'm not kidding the veins in his arms are ridiculous if he's reallly clean and I have no way to prove he is or isn't he could easily be a top pro. Supossedly he's going to compete next year with me for the hell of it, probably the san jose which is in july I'll keep u guys posted.
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Here ya go, taken 4 days after the 3 week shots. No matter what, the haters will continue to hate, thats ok, 12 days left before retirement :D
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0255.jpg)
you have a great physique coach Coach and i'll give you kudos for that. however, i don't see anything on that physique that i haven't seen from thousands of insulin users, who you say don't have muscles that 'pop'.
it's ridiculous assertions like that that i WILL call you on.
great, you have a text book knowledge of insulin. so do i, but does that mean we can cross examin bbers in the field that have plenty more experience and practical knowledge, ie experiements, with its administration eg. Milos?
put it this way, would you expect a person with a text book knowledge of anabolic steroids, but has never had any practical experience in it's usage for bodybuilding purposes, to know as much about administration ie amounts, cycles, front loading, pct, etc etc?
wow....not only u are becoming defensive but u bark more then u bite. You cannot talk like u know when u don't . that's that. Nothing against u but u wanna sound like u know like u belong and u don't. u don't lift big, so u got nothing to say on lifting heavy since u never experienced it. u don't look even decent so u got nothing to contribute about developement since u only saw it in magazines,. u are however able to name all the important muscle groups. bravo. so ; why are u even here ?....beast ::)
wow, you assume so much about me based on my lack of interest in attention whoring on the internet.
do i have to prove anything to a wannabe bber that hasn't got the balls to bring his shit (literally) on the stage to compete against real bbers? i don't think so.
i actually think it's amusing that my physique is much more developed than yours with similar levels of body fat (i'm 239lbs atm at 6'1) despite not being remotely interested in bodybuilding competition ;D and, yes, i have lifted much heavier weights than you have (of course i'm not assuming anything here because i know everything about you (because you are an attention whore) whereas you know precious little about me. ;)
yes, i do compete in another sport, but i love training for strength. sometimes i think it's the most important thing a human being can do for their body. that is why i am on this site, to occasionally (amongst all the bs) pick out a gem (knowledge) to apply to my own circumstance. the bonus is that i know far more about strength training than any strength coach i have ever been trained by. i will retire from my sport but i will never retire from my love of strength training.
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you have a great physique coach Coach and i'll give you kudos for that. however, i don't see anything on that physique that i haven't seen from thousands of insulin users, who you say don't have muscles that 'pop'.
it's ridiculous assertions like that that i WILL call you on.
great, you have a text book knowledge of insulin. so do i, but does that mean we can cross examin bbers in the field that have plenty more experience and practical knowledge, ie experiements, with its administration eg. Milos?
put it this way, would you expect a person with a text book knowledge of anabolic steroids, but has never had any practical experience in it's usage for bodybuilding purposes, to know as much about administration ie amounts, cycles, front loading, pct, etc etc?
wow, you assume so much about me based on my lack of interest in attention whoring on the internet.
do i have to prove anything to a wannabe bber that hasn't got the balls to bring his shit (literally) on the stage to compete against real bbers? i don't think so.
i actually think it's amusing that my physique is much more developed than yours with similar levels of body fat (i'm 239lbs atm at 6'1) despite not being remotely interested in bodybuilding competition ;D and, yes, i have lifted much heavier weights than you have (of course i'm not assuming anything here because i know everything about you (because you are an attention whore) whereas you know precious little about me. ;)
yes, i do compete in another sport, but i love training for strength. sometimes i think it's the most important thing a human being can do for their body. that is why i am on this site, to occasionally (amongst all the bs) pick out a gem (knowledge) to apply to my own circumstance. the bonus is that i know far more about strength training than any strength coach i have ever been trained by. i will retire from my sport but i will never retire from my love of strength training.
I am not arguing application, I'm arguing possible and most likely side effects!
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I am not arguing application, I'm arguing possible and most likely side effects!
yes, and you are referring to text books written by people with no interest whatsoever in the application of insulin usage as a ped or for anabolic purposes.
i guarantee that, if you want to play that game, i can find you PLENTY more literature on the dangers of anabolic steroid usage and administration. does that mean that i should tell you to stop using them or you will die soon from attack or brain cancer (lyle alzado ::))?
since you've obviously been using them on and off for about 30 years with, probably, few sides, you might just tell me to go fuck myself. ;)
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Priest is a pathological liar. History shows that his word means shit!
Thank Christ, this 5 foot 4 inch illiterate is no more!
HISTORY ALSO SHOWS THAT JEALOUSY IS WEAK EMOTION MOSTLY HAD BY FEMALES LIKE YOURSELF :D
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HISTORY ALSO SHOWS THAT JEALOUSY IS WEAK EMOTION MOSTLY HAD BY FEMALES LIKE YOURSELF :D
I almost want to take offense at that comment since I am a female. But hell, Hank is and always will be the biggest pussy to roam this earth.
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HISTORY ALSO SHOWS THAT JEALOUSY IS WEAK EMOTION MOSTLY HAD BY FEMALES LIKE YOURSELF :D
Hi Lee
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Hi Lee
Too easy, he names himself Preston Lee and types in caps.
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Too easy, he names himself Preston Lee and types in caps.
haha i know ;D but he spoke about himself/lee in 3rd person in another thread.
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haha i know ;D but he spoke about himself/lee in 3rd person in another thread.
yeah, he probably think that would be enough... ::) ::)
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yeah, he probably think that would be enough... ::) ::)
funny thing is... he was addressing Chick
"LETS NOT GET UPSET BOB
SO ARE YOU SAYING WE ALL NEED TO BE PATIENT? BECAUSE LEE MAY INFACT BE REINSTATED AT SOME POINT?"
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funny thing is... he was addressing Chick
"LETS NOT GET UPSET BOB
SO ARE YOU SAYING WE ALL NEED TO BE PATIENT? BECAUSE LEE MAY INFACT BE REINSTATED AT SOME POINT?"
lol.
Looks like Planet Nibiru is messing with him too.