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Dorian Yates finished on top of the scorecards, but so did Cutler this year ::)
Despite the vast lack of a personality and having more skeletons in his closet than an archeologist, I beleive the little guy "Sean Rhea" really won it hands down.
You decide ...
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:o
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No. The real question is how Shawn beat Kevin in 94. Shawn was far too small to compare with Dorian.
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In terms of aesthetics I'd say Ray. In terms of freaky size it is still Dorian. In terms of a combination of both I'd say Levrone.
Any of them could have taken it imo.
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Yates had a missing arm and his quads are genetically ugly and lack seperation.....plus he had a gut. I guess it depends on your definition of BB.
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Shawn.
But Yates is visually more impressive when they stand next to each other.
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never realized it but by those pics (especially the first one,) you can see why Yates always won, His legs are so much more aesthetic compared to the shapeless blocks the other guys are standing on. Makes a world of difference setting off the upper body.
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Dorian Yates finished on top of the scorecards, but so did Cutler this year ::)
Despite the vast lack of a personality and having more skeletons in his closet than an archeologist, I beleive the little guy "Sean Rhea" really won it hands down.
You decide ...
It was Shawn's show, hands down.
Dorian was much bigger, but his midsection was out of control that year. The whole size argument is bull crap too, if that were the case shawn should've never beaten Dillet or Ruhl.
Dorian should've actually been third, behind Ray and Levrone. The only time he's ever looked worse was at the 97 O ;)
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It was Shawn's show, hands down.
Dorian was much bigger, but his midsection was out of control that year. The whole size argument is bull crap too, if that were the case shawn should've never beaten Dillet or Ruhl.
Dorian should've actually been third, behind Ray and Levrone. The only time he's ever looked worse was at the 97 O ;)
Spot on ....
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It was Shawn's show, hands down.
Dorian was much bigger, but his midsection was out of control that year. The whole size argument is bull crap too, if that were the case shawn should've never beaten Dillet or Ruhl.
Dorian should've actually been third, behind Ray and Levrone. The only time he's ever looked worse was at the 97 O ;)
The thing is, Ray was just too damn small. If height didn't matter, Padilla was more deserving than Ray, and he was never allowed to win.
That's in addition to the fact that Ray's physique wasn't perfect either, some things missing.
If a smaller guy was ever deserving to win over Yates it was Momo, who was better than Yates OR Ray..
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That's in addition to the fact that Ray's physique wasn't perfect either, some things missing.
What was missing ?
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BENAZIZA was the best shortman of the era and had he not passed priest would have been a bridesmaid in that category for some time.
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i think shawn won 94, could argue kevin won it also. actually anyone in the top 5 beat doughian
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The hardness and condition displayed in this shot is unmatched and simply incredible.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/22456-3/1994-mr-olympia-66.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a43dd36826e59195517e26fa950749eb)
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I have never liked Dorians quads. Is there any picture where u can see separation in them??? + no sweep at all. He's calves was the only good below his waist.
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Paul Dillet won.
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The hardness and condition displayed in this shot is unmatched and simply incredible.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/22456-3/1994-mr-olympia-66.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a43dd36826e59195517e26fa950749eb)
and that was his worst haha bitches ;D
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Dorian was much bigger, but his midsection was out of control that year.
I know! It was HUMONGOUS!!!!!! ::)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/glwaters56/1994-mr-olympia-112.jpg)
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Yet again Yates looks fucking disgusting. How this huge gutted no arms having fucker beat Nasser is a joke.
Shawn is too tiny, he looks like an old ladies' dog.
I think Kevin deserves it over the tattooed racist.
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Shawn won hands down........another fixed Olympia.
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Yates
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In terms of aesthetics I'd say Ray. In terms of freaky size it is still Dorian. In terms of a combination of both I'd say Levrone.
Any of them could have taken it imo.
My thoughts exactly, well said. Howard
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Yates
Yate had (has) too many flaws compared to Shawn!
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I thought Shawn was awesome in 94 and deserved the win smaller or not. Dorian was ripped to shreds as usual but I think he was a little too big and looked better the year before.
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Dorian looks like the Kovacs monster. The most disgusting Mr O in history and a thief who should return the 97 O to its rightful owner: Nasser El Sonbaty.
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SR
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I know! It was HUMONGOUS!!!!!! ::)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/glwaters56/1994-mr-olympia-112.jpg)
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
;D
Why does everyone always post of photo of Dorian doing his abs/thigh pose to prove his waist wasn't out of control?! ::)
Cause if someone has a huge gut, they can't do that pose right ::)
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Mr. Levrone won
shawn never deserved an O, too stumpy
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shawn was the best BB onstage that day by far, more detail than anyone, best poser...he won that year IMO.
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Dorian Yates finished on top of the scorecards, but so did Cutler this year ::)
Despite the vast lack of a personality and having more skeletons in his closet than an archeologist, I beleive the little guy "Sean Rhea" really won it hands down.
You decide ...
( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Shawn was lucky to place in second
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( 1994 Mr Olympia ) Tonight I feel that I got what I deserved. With a beaming smile , Shawn concluded: " This is the first time in three years I haven't ' retired ' the night of the show and got drunk. "
Shawn was lucky to place in second
sorry ND that just isn't right-not the quote but you're add on.
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sorry ND that just isn't right-not the quote but you're add on.
No it is right , Shawn was actually trailing behind Levrone after the pre-judging so he was lucky to beat Kevin for second and the crowd Booed very loudly when he was announced in second .
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Shawn didn't win because they have this thing called a call out and when he was put next to Yates he looked just like what he was. A small very balanced bb with no wow factor. Yates looked like a monster not pretty at all but with more wow factor than the entire lineup. Its the truth and I'm a diehard Levrone fan but Yates's conditioning was such that the only guy who has ever came close in that respect is Paco. I will give Shawn this if there was a short man class like in the 70's he would have won that.
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Shawn was far too small to compare with Dorian.
True!
The hardness and condition displayed in this shot is unmatched and simply incredible.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/22456-3/1994-mr-olympia-66.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a43dd36826e59195517e26fa950749eb)
False!
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Nasser took the crown in 95.
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Nasser took the crown in 95.
Nasser easily won the Mr. Olympia in 95, 96 and 97 - if it weren't for biased judging and politics.
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Nasser easily won the Mr. Olympia in 95, 96 and 97 - if it weren't for biased judging and politics.
How Dorian got away with no left bicep I don't know..
Nasser, Levrone and Ray should split 5 of Dorian's 6 Mr. Olympias.
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Nasser took the crown in 95.
More delusional garbage , 1995 Yates was unbeatable , do I need to post the quote from Nasser hailing Yates' victory?
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How Dorian got away with no left bicep I don't know..
Nasser, Levrone and Ray should split 5 of Dorian's 6 Mr. Olympias.
no left bicep ::) its amazing Nasser could win a single pro show with NO back what so ever m what do you think is worse? one bicep shorter than another or NO back? wait don't answer I know how far gone you are.
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More delusional garbage , 1995 Yates was unbeatable , do I need to post the quote from Nasser hailing Yates' victory?
Nasser was pretending he agreed with the judging to try to be on the judges' good side since being so obviously (just look at Yates) results in winning Olympia titles you don't deserve. However, there were also other factors that led to the judges being biased against Nasser which would not change even if Nasser remained quiet. After that didn't work, he started becoming more outspoken and honest.
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no left bicep ::) its amazing Nasser could win a single pro show with NO back what so ever m what do you think is worse? one bicep shorter than another or NO back? wait don't answer I know how far gone you are.
Yeah, Nasser has "no" back. ::) If that's true then Dorian's back in 97 must have been a vaccuum!
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Nasser was pretending he agreed with the judging to try to be on the judges' good side since being so obviously (just look at Yates) results in winning Olympia titles you don't deserve. However, there were also other factors that led to the judges being biased against Nasser which would not change even if Nasser remained quiet. After that didn't work, he started becoming more outspoken and honest.
Don't presume to speak for Nasser , he knew who the superior bodybuilder was . and again you're like your hero full of excuses .
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Don't presume to speak for Nasser , he knew who the superior bodybuilder was . and again you're like your hero full of excuses .
Yeah, he knew HE was the superior bodybuilder. From 95 and onwards the ONLY poses yates beats Nasser in are the rear lat spread.
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More delusional garbage , 1995 Yates was unbeatable , do I need to post the quote from Nasser hailing Yates' victory?
hahaha He had a left beicep missing.. ::)
ND, you can't seem to understand the concept of modesty very well.
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Yeah, Nasser has "no" back. ::) If that's true then Dorian's back in 97 must have been a vaccuum!
The fact you think Nasser is comparable in ANY terms ( other than width which he better be because he's a LOT heavier than Yates ) shows how ignorant and delusional you are
Best backs ever
Dorian Yates , Ronnie Coleman , Lee Haney and Nasser isn't anywhere near this list and I can name 10 more bodybuilders with backs that blow Nasser out of the water
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(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/20125-3/93guestposingatatlanticstates2.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0873845907397766d7acf7995243ed83)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/20121-3/93guestposingatatlanticstates1.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=0873845907397766d7acf7995243ed83)
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Yeah, he knew HE was the superior bodybuilder. From 95 and onwards the ONLY poses yates beats Nasser in are the rear lat spread.
Again at his best Nasser was comparable in the front , from the sides and the back he gets blown out of the water , old news to everyone with the exception of the fan-boys
Nasser is a one dimensional bodybuilder
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The fact you think Nasser is comparable in ANY terms ( other than width which he better be because he's a LOT heavier than Yates ) shows how ignorant and delusional you are
Best backs ever
Dorian Yates , Ronnie Coleman , Lee Haney and Nasser isn't anywhere near this list and I can name 10 more bodybuilders with backs that blow Nasser out of the water
this is an accurate statement.
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hahaha He had a left beicep missing.. ::)
ND, you can't seem to understand the concept of modesty very well.
You can't grasp the concept of reality ;) Missing back is 50 times worse than a ' missing bicep '
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Despite all the claims of the Yates lovers I have never seen this tattooed racist EVER 'blow Nasser way' not once.
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You can't grasp the concept of reality ;) Missing back is 50 times worse than a ' missing bicep '
Nasser's back was weaker than Dorian's, but it certainly wasn't missing.
Dorian has no left arm and here you are saying that he was unbeatable in 95. ::) Nasser had better delts, arms, legs, hammies and roughly the same sized calves. You can't seem to understand the fact that other bodyparts count as well.
You're critical of Ronnie's forearms, Nasser's back, yet completely ignore Dorian's ripped up bodyparts.
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Nasser's back was weaker than Dorian's, but it certainly wasn't missing.
Dorian has no left arm and here you are saying that he was unbeatable in 95. ::) Nasser had better delts, arms, legs, hammies and roughly the same sized calves. You can't seem to understand the fact that other bodyparts count as well.
You're critical of Ronnie's forearms, Nasser's back, yet completely ignore Dorian's ripped up bodyparts.
Nasser couldn't even beat a 225lbs Flex at the Arnold Classic let alone Yates at the Olympia. Oh, and the torn bicep only affects one pose. Nasser's back ruins it more than that. As well, Nasser's lats are invisible in the FLS. LOL
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Nasser's back was weaker than Dorian's, but it certainly wasn't missing.
Dorian has no left arm and here you are saying that he was unbeatable in 95. ::) Nasser had better delts, arms, legs, hammies and roughly the same sized calves. You can't seem to understand the fact that other bodyparts count as well.
You're critical of Ronnie's forearms, Nasser's back, yet completely ignore Dorian's ripped up bodyparts.
Nasser's back was weaker than Dorians? LMMFAO wow thanks for admitting the painfully obvious , no shit ! his back sucked period you never be able to escape this , he had width and thats it , his back lacked depth , thickness , separation , development and density that for all intents & purposes is MISSING
Dorian had no left arm ::) WRONG he had ONE bicep shorter than another his triceps & forearms are still outstanding and you're like Hulkster you think a collection of impressive parts make the better whole it doesn't work that way and just like Hulkster you try to fluff up the advantages
legs, hammies and roughly the same sized calves.
legs include ' hammies ' and calves so why list them twice? and Nasser doesn't have better arms he may have better biceps , but triceps aren't better and his forearms certainly aren't
again pay attention Nasser could match or even surpass Dorian from the front , but he could NOT do the same from the sides and from the rear and couple that with Nasser never being as hard or as dry as Dorian ( everywhere ) he was never going to beat Dorian its old news , he's a one dimensional bodybuilder and thats not how the game is played.
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shawn got shafted in 1994.
its nice to see knowledgable fans posting threads like this that expose the gifts that dorian got over and over.
ND and Pubes must be pulling their hair out lol (and note this comparison uses the 'unbeatable' (SIC) 1995 dorian lol
Yates as as overrated as one could possibly get!
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Nasser couldn't even beat a 225lbs Flex at the Arnold Classic let alone Yates at the Olympia. Oh, and the torn bicep only affects one pose. Nasser's back ruins it more than that. As well, Nasser's lats are invisible in the FLS. LOL
lol Nasser's back was comparable to Dorians LMMFAO he couldn't touch Flex nevermind Dorian
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:'(
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Nasser looks like garbage there, as usual.
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shawn got shafted in 1994.
its nice to see knowledgable fans posting threads like this that expose the gifts that dorian got over and over.
ND and Pubes must be pulling their hair out lol (and note this comparison uses the 'unbeatable' (SIC) 1995 dorian lol
Yates as as overrated as one could possibly get!
Again Shawn Ray disagrees ;) and I guess you're all more knowledgeable than him lol always conttradicting the pros , and Yates is so overrated your hero not once but twice said he wouldn't be able to touch Yates I guess he's wrong to? lol
owned
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Nasser was MORE ahead of Dorian from the FRONT than Dorian was ahead of Nasser from the BACK.
Back - Dorian
Chest - Nasser
Abs - Nasser
Delts - Nasser
Triceps - toss-up
Biceps - Nasser
Calves - Dorian
Quads - toss-up
Hamstrings - Nasser
Nasser: 5
Dorian: 2
Although its hard to stay away, I'm going to make an effort to duck out of here because ND has proven his nut-huggerness by debating with Hulkster for two years and like 1500 pages in the Truce thread. Some people just don't get it and aren't worth our time replying to each message. The above ratings and the pics below are FACT, ND can reply with a dumb comment or call me delusional to get the last word, but that doesnt change the facts.
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:'(
Again you think posting that pic proves anything , other than how much of a hater you are? Yates killed Ronnie & Nasser I find it ironic the haters group together for revenge their heros couldn't muster like them you've all failed ;)
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lol Nasser's back was comparable to Dorians LMMFAO he couldn't touch Flex nevermind Dorian
Funny how you put Flex's rear double-bi's pose next to Nasser to compare Nasser to Dorian? Doesn't make sense, sorry. Flex's rear double biceps blows Dorian's out of the water. Why not stick to Nasser/Dorian comparisons, when comparing Nasser and Dorian. That's a no-brainer!
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lol Nasser's back was comparable to Dorians LMMFAO he couldn't touch Flex nevermind Dorian
i agree that nasser's back was shit compared to dorian
but dorian was nothing special from the front and routinely got owned by many guys in many front shots.
dorian was far from complete - piss poor quads, arms too small even at their best, near zero definition in front shots like this etc etc.
the list just goes on and on:
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Again you think posting that pic proves anything , other than how much of a hater you are? Yates killed Ronnie & Nasser I find it ironic the haters group together for revenge their heros couldn't muster like them you've all failed ;)
Oh yeah, pictures lie, I forgot ::)
And the picture you posted is no better of Dorian than the ones I posted.
The only difference is he's standing alone so he looks better there than when compared to someone like Nasser standing next to him.
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Nasser cross-eyed and looking retarded again LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198206.0;attach=230814;image)
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Nasser was MORE ahead of Dorian from the FRONT than Dorian was ahead of Nasser from the BACK.
Back - Dorian
Chest - Nasser
Abs - Nasser
Delts - Nasser
Triceps - toss-up
Biceps - Nasser
Calves - Dorian
Quads - toss-up
Hamstrings - Nasser
Nasser: 5
Dorian: 2
Although its hard to stay away, I'm going to make an effort to duck out of here because ND has proven his nut-huggerness by debating with Hulkster for two years and like 1500 pages in the Truce thread. Some people just don't get it and aren't worth our time replying to each message. The above ratings and the pics below are FACT, ND can reply with a dumb comment or call me delusional to get the last word, but that doesnt change the facts.
This a fucking brilliant post. Totally true. Huge Nasser even gives Kovacs Yates a run for his money with calves too.
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Nasser was MORE ahead of Dorian from the FRONT than Dorian was ahead of Nasser from the BACK.
Back - Dorian
Chest - Nasser
Abs - Nasser
Delts - Nasser
Triceps - toss-up
Biceps - Nasser
Calves - Dorian
Quads - toss-up
Hamstrings - Nasser
Nasser: 5
Dorian: 2
Although its hard to stay away, I'm going to make an effort to duck out of here because ND has proven his nut-huggerness by debating with Hulkster for two years and like 1500 pages in the Truce thread. Some people just don't get it and aren't worth our time replying to each message. The above ratings and the pics below are FACT, ND can reply with a dumb comment or call me delusional to get the last word, but that doesnt change the facts.
I love how you used the word ' facts ' the fact is Nasser lost every single time ha faced Dorian Yates and you for all your hero-worship and fan-boy posts can't change this fact ;)
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Nasser cross-eyed and looking retarded again LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198206.0;attach=230814;image)
Desperation = resorting to comparing eyes in a comparison of bodybuilders when you can no longer argue that Dorian's physique looks better in it than Nasser's.
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I love how you used the word ' facts ' the fact is Nasser lost every single time ha faced Dorian Yates and you for all your hero-worship and fan-boy posts can't change this fact ;)
Oh yeah, it's a fact that Nasser lost to Dorian, and it's also a fact that Nasser was better overall than Dorian as I proved above, which further proves the fact of biased judging.
Which of my assessments in the "points" post above was incorrect?
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Desperation = resorting to comparing eyes in a comparison of bodybuilders when you can no longer argue that Dorian's physique looks better in it than Nasser's.
Desperation = bitching about shit that happened over a decade ago. Nasser wasn't even close anyways. Nasser's lats are missing in the front lat spread.
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Funny how you put Flex's rear double-bi's pose next to Nasser to compare Nasser to Dorian? Doesn't make sense, sorry. Flex's rear double biceps blows Dorian's out of the water. Why not stick to Nasser/Dorian comparisons, when comparing Nasser and Dorian. That's a no-brainer!
Don't even bother with ND.
ND has a vast collection of pics and he's scared to post Nasser pics showing Nasser dominating Yates.
He'll of course find Nasser backshots when he was in decline or try to avoid the issue all together.
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Desperation = bitching about shit that happened over a decade ago. Nasser wasn't even close anyways. Nasser's lats are missing in the front lat spread.
Desperation = trying to avoid the issue and defending Yates.
hahaha "wasn't even close"
Stop smoking crack. Nasser was better in 95, 96 and 97.
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i agree that nasser's back was shit compared to dorian
but dorian was nothing special from the front and routinely got owned by many guys in many front shots.
dorian was far from complete - piss poor quads, arms too small even at their best, near zero definition in front shots like this etc etc.
the list just goes on and on:
Again like your Strydom back ignorant post , this one ranks right up there , he's nothing special from the front LMMFAO at you Hulkster and you insanely ignorant comments , Yates has probably the best front latspread in this history of the sport , his ab-thigh is outstanding and pre-tear his front doublebiceps is great , even in that hands clasped most muscular Yates is outstanding you will ONLY cling to the criteria in which you think wins someone a pose but thats not how it works , again you think you proved something but you haven't
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for the record, nasser's quads kill dorian's.
so Nasser is even MORE ahead
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Nasser cross-eyed and looking retarded again LOL
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198206.0;attach=230814;image)
This bodybuiding not facebuilding. Go buy a magazine for women or gays if you want to look at men's faces. Bobs has just fucking owned all of you. His bodypart comparison was spot on.
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Desperation = bitching about shit that happened over a decade ago. Nasser wasn't even close anyways. Nasser's lats are missing in the front lat spread.
The shading is a bit darker, but non-Dorian nut-huggers can still see they look as wide as Dorian's if not wider there.
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Oh yeah, it's a fact that Nasser lost to Dorian, and it's also a fact that Nasser was better overall than Dorian as I proved above, which further proves the fact of biased judging.
Which of my assessments in the "points" post above was incorrect?
You didn't prove anything you made a blanket statement again the fact is Nasser NEVER beat Dorian Yates thats a fact , all you're left with is excuses ( another fact )
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for the record, nasser's quads kill dorian's.
so Nasser is even MORE ahead
You know what, after making that post I was thinking it was too generous of me to give quads as a "tossup" I agree with you...the ONLY bodyparts Dorian beat Nasser on were back and calves, everything else is all Nasser!
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You didn't prove anything you made a blanket statement again the fact is Nasser NEVER beat Dorian Yates thats a fact , all you're left with is excuses ( another fact )
Bullshit judging is no excuse, moron.
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Don't even bother with ND.
ND has a vast collection of pics and he's scared to post Nasser pics showing Nasser dominating Yates.
He'll of course find Nasser backshots when he was in decline or try to avoid the issue all together.
Don't bother with me is right , because I will crush your ignorance like Hulkster before you ! all you guys have is hero-worship and delusion
Nasser great bodybuilder from the front and thats it
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You didn't prove anything you made a blanket statement again the fact is Nasser NEVER beat Dorian Yates thats a fact , all you're left with is excuses ( another fact )
I admitted the fact that Dorian beat Nasser, but thats not relevent when comparing who has a better physique, just like the fact that Cutler won the 2007 Olympia is irrelevant as to whether or not his physique was better than Victor or even dennis Wolf's.
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lol whenever ND gets owned he complains about 'blanket statements" LOL
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he will break out the quotes soon because the visuals own dorian from the front just like in the truce thread (the only difference there is that ronnie 1999 owns dorian from the back too)
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Don't bother with me is right , because I will crush your ignorance like Hulkster before you ! all you guys have is hero-worship and delusion
Nasser great bodybuilder from the front and thats it
Didn't you yourself even admit a few months ago that in 97 Nasser deserved to beat Dorian?
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Bullshit judging is no excuse, moron.
No judging is a fact ;) and 13 individual judges consistently choose Dorian as the superior bodybuilder over Nasser thats a fact.
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Didn't you yourself even admit a few months ago that in 97 Nasser deserved to beat Dorian?
No , I said Dorian should have lost in 1997 but he didn't get beat by Nasser even at his worse.
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lol whenever ND gets owned he complains about 'blanket statements" LOL
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he will break out the quotes soon because the visuals own dorian from the front just like in the truce thread (the only difference there is that ronnie 1999 owns dorian from the back too)
Look at the sucker trying to find people who will agree with him lol you think the more people agree with you that somehow you're right ( argument ad populum ;) ) it doesn't work that way
No Ronnie 99 doesn't own Yates in fact he's gone on record right before the 1999 Olympia and said he couldn't touch Yates that ended the truce thread and your bull shit ;)
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No , I said Dorian should have lost in 1997 but he didn't get beat by Nasser even at his worse.
So who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O?
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Funny how you put Flex's rear double-bi's pose next to Nasser to compare Nasser to Dorian? Doesn't make sense, sorry. Flex's rear double biceps blows Dorian's out of the water. Why not stick to Nasser/Dorian comparisons, when comparing Nasser and Dorian. That's a no-brainer!
No its meant to show how pathetic Nasser's back is to just about everyone , you people are making the claim Nasser's back is comparable to Dorian and other than width its not even close
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Look at the sucker trying to find people who will agree with him lol you think the more people agree with you that somehow you're right ( argument ad populum ;) ) it doesn't work that way
No Ronnie 99 doesn't own Yates in fact he's gone on record right before the 1999 Olympia and said he couldn't touch Yates that ended the truce thread and your bull shit ;)
ended? I think not. The owning continues to this day, and continues in threads like this. the only reason you ran is that you fear the day that the 1999 Olympia muscletime pics are put up.
that will be the icing on the cake to 1600+ pages of peak Ronnie owning doughian's overrated ass!
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So who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O?
I could see why they choose Yates but I don't think he should have won ! and I don't think Nasser beat him as a whole , from the front yes , from the side & back no .
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ended? I think not. The owning continues to this day, and continues in threads like this. the only reason you ran is that you fear the day that the 1999 Olympia muscletime pics are put up.
that will be the icing on the cake to 1600+ pages of peak Ronnie owning doughian's overrated ass!
Hulkster these two quotes ENDED the truce thread ( among the video of Yates at 269 pounds and McGough's quotes )
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him. He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.
your own HERO fucked you in the end ( a proposition you always fantasized about but not in this incarnation ) you ( like my argument ) can't counter this
and stick 1999 Olympia up your ass lol I posted high quality scans since day one of the 1999 Olympia its old news and hey that quote was from you guessed it , right before the 1999 Mr Olympia lol
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owned again LOL
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owned again LOL
How's that for a peach , Ronnie Coleman shut Hulkster down lol you just can't get any better than that
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I could see why they choose Yates but I don't think he should have won ! and I don't think Nasser beat him as a whole , from the front yes , from the side & back no .
You didnt answer my question - who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O? Or are you going to chose not answer it? Hint: The answer needs to be in Name format :)
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No its meant to show how pathetic Nasser's back is to just about everyone , you people are making the claim Nasser's back is comparable to Dorian and other than width its not even close
I agreed that Dorian's back is better overall than Nasser's, however I dont think Dorian "looks better from the back" because "the back" poses contain many other bodyparts too. I agree dorian's rear lat spread was better than Nasser, but in 97 Nasser's rear double biceps pose looked better - and thats not just my opinion but many getbiggers who were discussing it a week or so ago as you would remember. I havent seen any rear double biceps comparisons between the two in 95 or 96 to comment, but it woudlnt surprise me if Nasser looked better in those. Flex Wheeler's rear double biceps pose easily beats Yates' and that's why I was questioning why you're using that pic to compare.
You've shown that you have tons of scanned pics from the 90's shows, how come you dont post any comparisons of Nasser and Yates? There was one black and white comparison in the 95 Mr. O coverage in Flex where Nasser was doing a most muscular pose with his head facing downwards and Yates was doing the same pose and it was not even close - please be a man and post that one?
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You didnt answer my question - who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O? Or are you going to chose not answer it? Hint: The answer needs to be in Name format :)
again do I think Nasser beat Dorian? NO but I still personally think Dorian shouldn't have won but he was the the biggest , hardest and driest and he aced Nasser out from the back , I could understand why he won but again I don't think he should have .
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You didnt answer my question - who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O? Or are you going to chose not answer it? Hint: The answer needs to be in Name format :)
Nasser should have.
Ask nasser this, is it true that he apologized to Shawn ray for placing higher than him at the 95 O??? Just after they announced it???
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again do I think Nasser beat Dorian? NO but I still personally think Dorian shouldn't have won but he was the the biggest , hardest and driest and he aced Nasser out from the back , I could understand why he won but again I don't think he should have .
why do you insist on not answering the question? I'll rephrase:
Name the bodybuilder who you think deserved the 97 Mr. O title.
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Nasser should have.
Ask nasser this, is it true that he apologized to Shawn ray for placing higher than him at the 95 O??? Just after they announced it???
I dont even have to ask Nasser that because I remember when it was discussed in Flex magazine and he later clarified his response. He offered a condolence to Shawn Ray when Shawn was called out as fourth - just being a nice guy that he is. Later, when Ray was crying about his placing and I think he even threatened/bluffed to retire shortly after that, he said, "Even Nasser apologized to me for beating me." Nasser was appaled at that betrayal comment by Ray, twisting Nasser's words around when he was just trying to be nice to Ray, so he clarified in a later issue of Flex that he did not apologize, he just offered Ray a few kind words of condolence since he knew Ray used to getting higher than 4th and Nasser had now surpassed him.
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I agreed that Dorian's back is better overall than Nasser's, however I dont think Dorian "looks better from the back" because "the back" poses contain many other bodyparts too. I agree dorian's rear lat spread was better than Nasser, but in 97 Nasser's rear double biceps pose looked better - and thats not just my opinion but many getbiggers who were discussing it a week or so ago as you would remember. I havent seen any rear double biceps comparisons between the two in 95 or 96 to comment, but it woudlnt surprise me if Nasser looked better in those. Flex Wheeler's rear double biceps pose easily beats Yates' and that's why I was questioning why you're using that pic to compare.
You've shown that you have tons of scanned pics from the 90's shows, how come you dont post any comparisons of Nasser and Yates? There was one black and white comparison in the 95 Mr. O coverage in Flex where Nasser was doing a most muscular pose with his head facing downwards and Yates was doing the same pose and it was not even close - please be a man and post that one?
Nasser may look ' better ' in the back double biceps shot but that doesn't mean he has the better back double biceps shot in terms of density & conditioning , detail & separation and size just because he's softer and looks better doesn't mean he should win the shot , bare in mind all rounds are physique rounds they count ALL of the criteria in every single pose from every single angle and while Nasser does have some advantages as a whole Yates satisfied the criteria better
and Flex Wheeler may have a more aesthetic back double biceps shot but he can't touch Yates in this pose at his best Dorian has way to many advantages , size , density , conditioning , balance & proportion , etc more to a pose that just meeting part of the criteria
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You're not going to answer the question, ND? Please name the bodybuilder who you think deserved to win the 97 Mr. O?
Also, can you please scan post the pic I was referring to? I'll promise to stay out of back-and-fourth debates with you if post it, I just honestly want that picture now that I remember it.
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in my opinion shawn ray won the 94 mr o hands down, out of all the years this was the worst he looked.. to me anyway....
oh yeah and nasser never deserved to win a O no way in the world... oil bloated pile of wife beating shit
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in my opinion shawn ray won the 94 mr o hands down, out of all the years this was the worst he looked.. to me anyway....
oh yeah and nasser never deserved to win a O no way in the world... oil bloated pile of wife beating shit
Aren't you the 21-year old who was complaining that you bought 20 cc's of sustanon for $500 and are not seeing any results on week 4? ::)
By the way, you paid about double to quadruple what you should have!
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Aren't you the 21-year old who was complaining that you bought 20 cc's of sustanon for $500 and are not seeing any results on week 4? ::)
By the way, you paid about double to quadruple what you should have!
yeah thats me.. i dont really see why that is relavent to the topic at hand, but ok.... good comeback though
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back to the topic, shawn should have won in 94... and did u hear bigbobs nasser is writing a educational book for all team nasser its title, how to put the bitch in line with a firm fist, its available at nasserisafagwhoshitshims elfandsellsittobigbobs.c om ;D
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NarcissticDiety!
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Aren't you the 21-year old who was complaining that you bought 20 cc's of sustanon for $500 and are not seeing any results on week 4? ::)
By the way, you paid about double to quadruple what you should have!
hahaha what do you expect from a know-all kid who relates only to white BBs while faking objectivity lol ;D
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hahaha what do you expect from a know-all kid who relates only to white BBs while faking objectivity lol ;D
He's also a dumbass to boot if people hadn't caught on already.
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HAHAHA.. The 'peanut gallery' still cannot stop talking about little-Sean Rey.... ROTFLMAO!
I will let you 'pieces of shit' in on a little secret; Sean has won the Olympia on at least five occasions!
It is the corruption that exists at the upper echelons that has merely prevented this little guy from holding on to that Sandow....A trophy, who gives a toss. Look at the footage, Sean was the clear victor, year after corrupt year.
Yes, i still despise roided-up-midgets. But for the smack-talking-Rey, i make an exception!
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NarcissticDiety!
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HAHAHA.. The 'peanut gallery' still cannot stop talking about little-Sean Rey.... ROTFLMAO!
I will let you 'pieces of shit' in on a little secret; Sean has won the Olympia on at least five occasions!
It is the corruption that exists at the upper echelons that has merely prevented this little guy from holding on to that Sandow....A trophy, who gives a toss. Look at the footage, Sean was the clear victor, year after corrupt year.
Yes, i still despise roided-up-midgets. But for the smack-talking-Rey, i make an exception!
Maybe you missed the part in the IFBB judging criteria that calls for " Muscular Bulk " at just 205 pounds Shawn Ray is severely lacking in part of the criteria , Shawn made predictions he was going to beat Haney , Yates , he bitched about Ronnie he was never legitimately in the running with such a deficit
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He's also a dumbass to boot if people hadn't caught on already.
He's the last to know, thereby proving it. ;D Reminds of ND. :o
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Nasser is dominating Yates in that shot.
Thanks for proving my point.
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Nasser is dominating Yates in that shot.
Thanks for proving my point.
Dominating lol he's bowing down old news he knows who the winner is , years later he cries foul !
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He's the last to know, thereby proving it. ;D Reminds of ND. :o
You're so scared to commit to a point , you tried it once and I utterly crushed you and what are you left with? scared little dumb remarks again anytime you want to debate I'm ready ;)
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They say "Love is blind".Some people really love nasser.Good for them ;D.
Here is a interesting puzzle.
Ok 2 similar bodybuilders ,Front double bicep pose.bodybuilder a has better upper arms bodybuilder b is equal in size and symmetry in all other areas except has better forearms and calves and is noticably a bit harder.What will the judges do?
Loving yates or nasser is not an answere to the puzzle as bias will fail.Does someone have a logical unbiased proof of winner.
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LOL notice how ND refuses to answer which bodybuilder he feels deserved to win the 97 mr. O
hahahha
what a tool.
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here is a hint as to one possible answer:
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Nasser great bodybuilder from the front and thats it
funny:
dorian is a great bodybuilder from the back and thats it.
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You didnt answer my question - who do you think should have won the 97 Mr. O? Or are you going to chose not answer it? Hint: The answer needs to be in Name format :)
ND has a tough time with any answers, let alone a simple one.
he is at a grade 5 reading level LOL
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funny:
dorian is a great bodybuilder from the back and thats it.
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Dorian dominated from the front , sides and the back i.e. Hulkster complete , need anything else corrected?
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yeah thats me.. i dont really see why that is relavent to the topic at hand, but ok.... good comeback though
Point is you got ripped off and you're stupid! I think a few others above reconfirmed that as well!
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Nasser being a true sportsman and shaking Dorian Yates' hand even though he knows it was an unfair decision.
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NarcissticDiety!
hahahaha that picture never gets old, it always make me laugh too! Hey everyone, look I have a black eye from being knocked the fuck out! Thumbs up!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198206.0;attach=230846;image)
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on the muscletime pics ray is clearly a more balanced shaped bber to yates,yates in the side by side with ray is totally outmassing ray.hence yates winning,i don't agree and most pics of yates are pre tear pics.rays legs were fuller and probably due to being shorter but overall ray was uncrowned at least once.yates most musculars were poor in showing his overall shape,his side and rear was different story ,yates was a good champ first half of reign.he did have stiff competition for his 6 sandows.
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Dorian's good friend Bob Wolff wrote the article for M&F on the 1994 Olympia. Even he said Shawn should've won.
"Shawn should've flown home with the Sandow statue." - BW
Dorian in 92, 93 and 95?
Absolutely.
Dorian in 94, 96 and 97?
No.
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Maybe you missed the part in the IFBB judging criteria that calls for " Muscular Bulk " at just 205 pounds Shawn Ray is severely lacking in part of the criteria , Shawn made predictions he was going to beat Haney , Yates , he bitched about Ronnie he was never legitimately in the running with such a deficit
The IFBB judging criteria also missed the part that calls for symmetry and having two arms and more than one ab that doesn't stick out futher than his his chest >:(
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The IFBB judging criteria also missed the part that calls for symmetry and having two arms and more than one ab that doesn't stick out futher than his his chest >:(
LOL ND owned.
yet ANOTHER thread where everyone can see that ND has no fucking clue when it comes to applying criteria..
LOL
this is great 8)
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Dorian dominated from the front , sides and the back i.e. Hulkster complete , need anything else corrected?
you need to be corrected dumbass.
none of those shots show Yates standing next to his competition, and only one of those shots is post tear.
if you want to see ownage of dorian, check out pics from 1994 and 1996 LOL
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DORIAN'S LATS ARE SO FUCKING BIG AND IMPRESSIVE EVEN FROM THE FRONT IT'S INCREDIBLE!
I never really understood the whole "Yates won because of his back", but looking at the standing relaxed everyone looks like 12-year-old boys compared to Yates and his ridiculously thick lats! Unfucking believeable.
Yates had some ugly ass quads, but they were the biggest on stage and his calves/hams/gluts were unmatched.
Yates deserved every Olympia he ever won. Ronnie is better and took it to another level. Nasser's conditioning and back were very bad. He also doesn't have the integrity of a Mr. Olympia. Nasser fans can complain all they want but it means nothing because Yates/Coleman are in the history books as Mr. Olympia's and will be remembered 50 years from now while Nasser will be long forgotten. You all must move on and act like men and stop whining like little girls.
Nasser is a loser and a pathetic old man who is bitter about a bodybuilding contest that took place over 10 years ago. Very, very pathetic indeed. You don't see Sergio Oliva coming on the boards and trash talking Arnold about the '72 Olympia do you? That's because Sergio has some integrity left in his life and has moved on.
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The IFBB judging criteria also missed the part that calls for symmetry and having two arms and more than one ab that doesn't stick out futher than his his chest >:(
Dorian does have symmetry , he does have two arms and when held tight his midsection looks great , again you think Ray is without flaws? short high calves that aren't in proportion with his quads , short legs , long torso , among the narrowest clavicles you ever see Shawn Ray's lats spreads? NO neither did anyone else again just because someone has a prettier physique doesn't mean they should win , thats how he judging criteria works it who meets the criteria the best
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LOL ND owned.
yet ANOTHER thread where everyone can see that ND has no fucking clue when it comes to applying criteria..
LOL
this is great 8)
I love how you get excited because you think if someone disagrees with me I'm getting owned ::) you're so desperate to try and get revenge for all the times I crushed you , you think if anyone says anything to the contrary they're automatically right ::) and enough with this ' everyone ' nonsense most people on here are like you ignorant and while on the topic of applying the criteria please explain how you came to the conclusion ( after applying the criteria ) that Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia to Flex Wheeler , that 1998 Mr Olympia wasn't a close contest despite a 3 point difference , and oh how about this gem Ronnie Coleman has more detailed calves than Dorian Yates , and Lee Labrada had crappy abdominals & calves , Matt Mendebhall was blocky , Ronnie 1999 was more grainy than Dorian Yates , I mean should I continue? because I have many more Hulksterisms
you are hands down the most ignorant person I even seen when it comes to the topic of competitive bodybuilding , hands down !! you don't know anything remember Hulkster I'm explaining things to you not the other way around and by the way you never did elaborate on how Yates lost the 1993 Mr Olympia lol
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you need to be corrected dumbass.
none of those shots show Yates standing next to his competition, and only one of those shots is post tear.
if you want to see ownage of dorian, check out pics from 1994 and 1996 LOL
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Yeah because he wasn't directly compared to his competition in the whole of pre-judging lol again Dorian isn't getting owned at all , your lack of comprehension of the IFBB judging criteria allows you to make such blanket statements oh and couple that with your Yates-bias , again some people may look better from an aesthetic standpoint but from the standpoint of muscular bulk , density & conditioning , balance & proportion , posing & presentation Dorian stood alone among his peers which is exactly why Ronnie Coleman right before the 1999 Mr Olympia stated he couldn't beat Dorian Yates
These are all Dorian post-tear he's completely destroying his competition , while you can find some advantages in his competitors as a whole ( you know Hulkster how contests are judged ;) ) he is the biggest , hardest , driest and best balanced guy on stage bar-none
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Dorian's good friend Bob Wolff wrote the article for M&F on the 1994 Olympia. Even he said Shawn should've won.
"Shawn should've flown home with the Sandow statue." - BW
Dorian in 92, 93 and 95?
Absolutely.
Dorian in 94, 96 and 97?
No.
FWIW, I was at the '96 O. When the competitors first came out, there was a buzz that Nasser may be the guy on that night. When they turned around, the show was over. People were actually laughing about how they first thought Nasser had a chance.
Yes, there are one or two pics that make from that show that make them look comparable, but they really weren't.
I have no bias toward any competitor, either. Just an objective observation.
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Another reminder of Yates' arm size deficit-Yates' tris while extremely cut, are about half the size of other guys like Levrone. :o
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Another reminded that Yates tris, while cut are about half the size of other guys like Levrone. :o
Outstanding calves though.
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Outstanding calves though.
LOL ya and nice tatoos.
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you need to be corrected dumbass.
none of those shots show Yates standing next to his competition, and only one of those shots is post tear.
if you want to see ownage of dorian, check out pics from 1994 and 1996 LOL
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agreed, from the front alone, Dorian wouldn't have been so dominant, not by far... (I think Levrone owns that pose)
But you've got to give him his credit, when he turned around, it was game over!
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But you've got to give him his credit, when he turned around, it was game over!
This is the stock (and unsatisfactory) answer-from the front and sides it was often lights out for Yates. ;D Front shots are the most important anyway, whether it's admitted here or not.
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The keg clearly being manhandled here by Nasser from the back..
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If only the front mattered, Dillet would have been Mr. O.
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If only the front mattered, Dillet would have been Mr. O.
Dillet was strong from all angles other than back actually.
His back deficiency was less than the perception, and clearly less than Yates' shortcomings from both front AND sides.
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Where's that b&w picture (front lat spread) with Dillet and Levrone absolutely destroying Yates?
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Pic #37 of various BBs destroying Yates.
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Pic #37 of various BBs destroying Yates.
Dillet crushing everyone.
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This is the stock (and unsatisfactory) answer-from the front and sides it was often lights out for Yates. ;D Front shots are the most important anyway, whether it's admitted here or not.
Again typical fan-boy response , no Yates had among the best front latspreads and ab-thigh , his side triceps & side chest were fantastic , his back shots are out of this world and I hate to break it to you front shot are NO MORE important than any other shots its the whole that counts ! it reminds me of your comment on show muscles lol typical fan-boy delusion
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Dillet was strong from all angles other than back actually.
His back deficiency was less than the perception, and clearly less than Yates' shortcomings from both front AND sides.
You think his back was his only shortcoming? how about posing & density and overall conditioning? those don't count just what you like does lol
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The keg clearly being manhandled here by Nasser from the back..
Again one of your more retarded comments Nasser isn't even close to Yates from the back ! your bias against Yates blinds you to facts period , Nasser is in no way shape or form comparable in terms of back ( other than width ) his condition despite his use of diuretics is severely lacking , Dorian is outclassing both of them its not close
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Another reminder of Yates' arm size deficit-Yates' tris while extremely cut, are about half the size of other guys like Levrone. :o
Same contest whats your excuse now? Dorian easily beat everyone even at his worse
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shawn ws the best bber on stage
but the whiney little cu nt prolly talked himself out of the O long before stepping on stage
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If only the front mattered, Dillet would have been Mr. O.
No, Nasser would have been
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but ronnie who was good from the front AND back (unlike dorian, nasser and dillett) would own them all! :-*
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No, Nasser would have been
Nasser is killing him in that pic. His conditioning is literally twice as good.
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Nasser is killing him in that pic. His conditioning is literally twice as good.
Thank you! Getting a little change of stance towards Nasser?
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Thank you! Getting a little change of stance towards Nasser?
Bobs, I've always been fair about Nasser's physique. I've said when I think it declined and when it was superb. Sharma posted a pic of him when he was younger and it is pretty much perfection. The pic where he looked like Sean Connery.
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man oh man.. 8)
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Nasser is killing him in that pic. His conditioning is literally twice as good.
Nasser could never win over Dillet in a truly representative pic of Paul in shape.
http://www.dailymotion.com/related/5553363/tag/ronnie/video/x282pv_paul-dillet-explosion_extreme
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Nasser could never win over Dillet in a truly representative pic of Paul in shape.
http://www.dailymotion.com/related/5553363/tag/ronnie/video/x282pv_paul-dillet-explosion_extreme
They competed together for 2-3 years when both were considered at their prime - I'm sure you can find some comparison pics - I already showed one where Nasser is destroying him. Most of Paul Dillet's "freakiest" pics are where he is standing alone, but next to Huge Nasser does not look as impressive.