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Title: Best post EVER.
Post by: spinnis on February 06, 2008, 12:17:17 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.


Quote from: dylan_dent
Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman,' 'red reck' ... And that's OK.

But when I call you, guy, Ki*e, T*wel head, Sand-guy, Camel J*ckey, Be*ner, G*ok, or Ch*nk ... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month , we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.


We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber Of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American Pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students Scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges In the US. Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT Would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were Marching for your race and rights. If we marched for Our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and You're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce Our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, car-jack us, and shoot at us. But, when a White police officer shoots a black gang member or beats Up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a Threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist.


Why is it that only whites can be racists?


What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: m8 on February 06, 2008, 12:20:53 PM
To "aZn PrYdE" I usually answer "White Pride!" or "White Power!"  :)
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Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 12:21:43 PM
Aryan and proud!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: ~flower~ on February 06, 2008, 12:25:04 PM
What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?

 <-------  ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: avesher on February 06, 2008, 12:27:30 PM
wow that is a fantastic post by that dylan
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: cht868 on February 06, 2008, 12:30:38 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.



What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?

i wish i went to an all white college
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 12:37:57 PM
Aryan and proud!

STFU, little dark-haired, dark-eyed midget-beast.

So I didn't read the long meltdown post at the beginning of this thread, but I take it you all are feeling insecure about some thing. Get over it. 

Affirmative action is not what is keeping you from your rightful place. Your incompetence/general failure as human beings is what's holding you back.

Those of us who are not playing "victim" to the black man and the brown man and the yellow man are doing just fine.   

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on February 06, 2008, 12:41:58 PM
i wish i went to an all white college


me too.....

this really is the best post ever....

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 12:43:06 PM

me too.....

this really is the best post ever....



Oh brother, another "victim."

Honey, your problem is that you're sexually repressed and won't show us your tits.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Big_Tymer on February 06, 2008, 12:43:39 PM
that post speaks the truth.  its sad that there are too many liberal fags in the states who are anti-white against their own kind.

diversity sucks
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: NeverTrustABlonde on February 06, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
Oh brother, another "victim."

Honey, your problem is that you're sexually repressed and won't show us your tits.

i was a victim in grade school!!! i was the only white kid and no one liked me!! lol
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 12:49:20 PM
i was a victim in grade school!!! i was the only white kid and no one liked me!! lol

Well, you're a big girl now, and the world is your oyster.  If you hang out with the other victims in this thread, someone might steal it from you. 
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 12:49:57 PM
that post speaks the truth.  its sad that there are too many liberal fags in the states who are anti-white against their own kind.

diversity sucks

Oh brother. Cry me a river.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: swilkins1984 on February 06, 2008, 12:52:13 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.



What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: beatmaster on February 06, 2008, 12:57:52 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month , we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber Of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American Pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students Scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges In the US. Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT Would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were Marching for your race and rights. If we marched for Our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and You're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce Our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, car-jack us, and shoot at us. But, when a White police officer shoots a black gang member or beats Up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a Threat to society, you call him a racist.




so in the end, who is racists?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: emn1964 on February 06, 2008, 01:09:08 PM
so in the end, who is racists?

everyone...in the end
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: alejandro_torres on February 06, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.


What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?
yeah, you also didnt mention we latins have walter mercado watching the stars foir us  :P
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 06, 2008, 01:17:41 PM
so in the end, who is racists?


Anyone who see things in terms of race like the NAACP, the united negro college fund, BET etc...
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 01:20:10 PM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it

It's much more fun playing the "victim"......or blaming your shortcomings on things external to you.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: medz zeppelin on February 06, 2008, 01:21:39 PM
This is a huge problem all over the world.



What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?
this is an old e mail that's been around for years......Fear of a Black Planet yo
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 06, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it


Why don't they all just celebrate the fact that they are New Yorkers and one big community of diverse people rather then split it up into race oriented spectacles.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:24:40 PM
"If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists."


based on passed actions one could argue that the US government fulfills that role..doesn't get bigger than that
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:26:29 PM

Why don't they all just celebrate the fact that they are New Yorkers and one big community of diverse people rather then split it up into race oriented spectacles.

hopefully someday very soon we can get there

personally I love the Puerto Rican day period and hope that it never goes away

I also enjoy the festival in "little Italy", great food and entertainment

also the Irish (st.pattys day) parade is also pretty cool
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:29:37 PM
this is an old e mail that's been around for years......Fear of a Black Planet yo


oddly enough the largest growing population segments in the US are Hispanic, Indians and "middle easterners",  wake up my friend
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: medz zeppelin on February 06, 2008, 01:30:09 PM
yeah if we could just kill all the fuckin muslims we'd be set
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
It's much more fun playing the "victim"......or blaming your shortcomings on things external to you.

ask any victim of a crime if they had fun
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
yeah if we could just kill all the fuckin muslims we'd be set

no, no, no my friend

Muslim is a religion...one could argue that Christians have done more damage
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 06, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
hopefully someday very soon we can get there

personally I love the Puerto Rican day period and hope that it never goes away

I also enjoy the festival in "little Italy", great food and entertainment

also the Irish (st.pattys day) parade is also pretty cool


Parades I don't like but festivals are cool. Parades exclude all those not of the same background from participating and negate them to just viewers where as festivals invite everyone to come learn, enjoy and experience what other cultures are like from around the world.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
ask any victim of a crime if they had fun

Is English your first language?  What I meant is that we have a lot of dissatisfied people in this country who are looking to blame their situation on the actions of others.  That's what "playing the victim" means. In this thread, we have a bunch of "whites" doing it .... but this "victim" mentality is not confined by race.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:36:31 PM

Parades I don't like but festivals are cool. Parades exclude all those not of the same background from participating and negate them to just viewers where as festivals invite everyone to come learn, enjoy and experience what other cultures are like from around the world.

fair point Mike, what is your heritage?..tell me about the food  :)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: medz zeppelin on February 06, 2008, 01:36:56 PM
no, no, no my friend

Muslim is a religion...one could argue that Christians have done more damage
I'm Christian I don't give a fuck about the Muslims. Let em all go to Allah.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:39:02 PM
Is English your first language?  What I meant is that we have a lot of dissatisfied people in this country who are looking to blame their situation on the actions of others.  That's what "playing the victim" means. In this thread, we have a bunch of "whites" doing it .... but this "victim" mentality is not confined by race.

Calmus...be it White, Hispanic, Black, Muslim, Christians and any other sub group I agree with you. We should celebrate the difference and work together to solve common problems.

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 01:40:16 PM
I'm Christian I don't give a fuck about the Muslims. Let em all go to Allah.

that is not a very "Christian" attitude..perhaps you are part of the problem
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: medz zeppelin on February 06, 2008, 01:40:35 PM
Calmus...be it White, Hispanic, Black, Muslim, Christians and any other sub group I agree with you. We should celebrate the difference and work together to solve common problems.


like that's gonna happen
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 06, 2008, 01:48:35 PM
fair point Mike, what is your heritage?..tell me about the food  :)


Pennsylvania Deitsch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_dutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_dutch)




Amish Friendship Bread
Scrapple
Pickled beet eggs
Schnitz un knepp
Chicken pot pie (Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine)
Bova Shankel (translated as "boy's legs")
Brown butter noodles
Chicken corn soup (with small dumplings called "rivels")
Apple butter
Hogmaw ("Seimaaga" in the Pennsylvania Dutch dialect)
Chow-chow
Cole slaw
Lebanon bologna
Pretzel
Beef or venison jerky
Cup Cheese
Birch beer
Root beer
Peanut butter schmier
Chicken and waffles
Pork and Sauerkraut

Desserts:

Shoofly pie
Whoopie pies
Funnel cake
Fastnachts
Apple dumplings
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: m8 on February 06, 2008, 01:49:14 PM
i was a victim in grade school!!! i was the only white kid and no one liked me!! lol

 :'(

good thing girls just have to spread their legs/show their tits and ass  :D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: JasonH on February 06, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
Great post by "Dylan Dent" - very true in all respects.

However, despite all their special "days", "institutions", and the like, I'm glad I'm still white.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Deadpool on February 06, 2008, 02:00:40 PM
white power, white pride!  of course I also spend time in a tanning bed  :-\
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 06, 2008, 02:43:43 PM
I think it is very foolish to dislike a group of people because of the color of their skin or ethnic background. That is true ignorance! However, if there were, for example, a race of people who were overwhelmingly involved in committing violent crimes, refused to educate themselves, turned every neighborhood they inhabited into a slum, impregnated underage teens at record numbers and then abandoned them, and turned every country where they were the ruling majority into total chaos, that would be a different story. You racists make me sick.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Snotroot on February 06, 2008, 02:57:55 PM
I'm american Indian (pine/timber ni**er), we got screwed for some horses,  and blankets infected with smallpocks but you don't here us cryin.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on February 06, 2008, 02:58:45 PM
I think it is very foolish to dislike a group of people because of the color of their skin or ethnic background. That is true ignorance! However, if there were, for example, a race of people who were overwhelmingly involved in committing violent crimes, refused to educate themselves, turned every neighborhood they inhabited into a slum, impregnated underage teens at record numbers and then abandoned them, and turned every country where they were the ruling majority into total chaos, that would be a different story. You racists make me sick.


Hidden message understood and I have to agree to some level ;)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Red Hook on February 06, 2008, 03:07:06 PM
I'm american Indian (pine/timber ni**er), we got screwed for some horses,  and blankets infected with smallpocks but you don't here us cryin.

"The issue of alcohol and other substance abuse is significant to American Indian/Alaska Native (AI/AN) communities. The death rates associated with alcoholic cirrhosis and other direct alcohol diseases for AI/AN are well above general U.S. population. In addition, injuries are the leading cause of death for AI/AN=s between the ages of 15 and 44 years. The majority of these deaths, whether intentional (such as suicide and homicide) or unintentional (such as motor vehicle crashes) are associated with alcohol and other chemical abuse."

http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t991013a.html


"21.9 -- percentage of Hispanics living below the poverty level in 2004 4

24.3 -- percentage of Native Americans living below the poverty level in 2004 4

24.7 -- percentage of African Americans living below the poverty level in 2004"


ummm.....no comment
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Epic_Monster on February 06, 2008, 05:57:47 PM
WORD UP!!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 08:07:13 PM
STFU, little dark-haired, dark-eyed midget-beast.

So I didn't read the long meltdown post at the beginning of this thread, but I take it you all are feeling insecure about some thing. Get over it. 

Affirmative action is not what is keeping you from your rightful place. Your incompetence/general failure as human beings is what's holding you back.

Those of us who are not playing "victim" to the black man and the brown man and the yellow man are doing just fine.   



Watch this right now:

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Snotroot on February 06, 2008, 09:17:28 PM
Red hook go fuck yourself if you want to forget.  nooooooo wait get i life
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: disco_stu on February 07, 2008, 12:17:34 AM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it

good post!!!...

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Bear on February 07, 2008, 07:07:35 AM
This is a huge problem all over the world.



What the HELL is up with american having a Only black beauty Pagent wtf?!?!?

They say prejudice = pride + power.

Whiteys have had all the power since day 1, and most of it still.

I am white, I've never felt like a minority, I don't feel victimised.

If you ship over thousands of slaves and only stopped shitting on their descendents like one generation ago then don't be surprised they're keen to assert and define their identity and presence. Black on black crime happens because poor people feel the need turn to crime. In the great land of Ameerca there's shitloads of poor black people. The same shit happens with poor white guys in rough neighbourhoods.

Anyway, don't play the pathetic victim when you're not, same to Dylan dent.

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Tombo on February 07, 2008, 07:15:55 AM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it

Are you serious?

Should everything which is subjected to racial inclusion have the proper 'ratios' ? are you saying that because a Comedy has all white (and most Jewish) characters that it is unfair that a black person wasn't cast 'successfully' ?, think about the bigger picture as a game of 'chance' .. maybe an Asian dude just wasn't lucky enough for a casted part. Or maybe he wasn't a fucking Jewish man named Jerry living in that particular part of NY.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Bobby on February 07, 2008, 11:43:37 AM
Watch this right now:



what are you suggesting ?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Condor on February 10, 2008, 11:14:31 PM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"

you could also make the argument that every major network is "WET"..and that minorities were forced to create their own.

you point out that minorities group have created their own entities, maybe they did so they out of a lack of opportunity, maybe they wanted their kids to see someone like them on TV..how many minorities were there on "Friends" or Seinfeld..  :-\

In general I try to celebrate the differences in my friends and perhaps learn something.

in NY every "ethnic group" has a parade for some reason or the other, why not enjoy it?

hopefully we can have some discourse on this topic without getting off on a racial name calling rant..but I doubt it

Seinfeld and Friends, ok.....

The Cosby Show, Different Strokes, Family Matters, The Jeffersons, Sanford and Son, Good Times, My Wife and Kids

Yeah no "minorities" WHATSOEVER on mainstream TV.

Perhaps you should say every day is "Jew" day.....they run this country....

And they have MUCH more of a history of persecution.......where and how did this happen, with the SAME, IF NOT WORSE lack of opportunity as the black man had? 

Plenty of poor white folks had the same lack of opportunity, yet they don't turn to crime in the same percentages.

The poor white man stuck to his trailer while the poor black man had to find a gun and gang up.

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 13, 2008, 09:07:26 PM
Plenty of poor white folks had the same lack of opportunity, yet they don't turn to crime in the same percentages.

The poor white man stuck to his trailer while the poor black man had to find a gun and gang up.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: dzulboy on March 13, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
hopefully someday very soon we can get there

personally I love the Puerto Rican day period and hope that it never goes away

I also enjoy the festival in "little Italy", great food and entertainment

also the Irish (st.pattys day) parade is also pretty cool

puerto rican day PERIOD?   is that where millions of sinlge puerto rican men rejoice  so they don;t have to pay child support?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 13, 2008, 09:47:16 PM
How are Latin Americans in the United States?  Are they more comparable to black people or poor Europeans or something else?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: McFarland on March 13, 2008, 09:51:15 PM
Matt what's Mayhem's being an indicator as to the rampant insecurity found throughout the rest of the fitness industry have to do with this thread though? 
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 13, 2008, 09:52:02 PM
How are Latin Americans in the United States?  Are they more comparable to black people or poor Europeans or something else?
WTF is a "Latin American"? You mean a mexican? ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Big Worm on March 13, 2008, 09:53:29 PM
To "aZn PrYdE" I usually answer "White Pride!" or "White Power!"  :)
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Aren't you a bisexual fag?
Aryan and proud!<<<< Matt C .Aren't you a fag as well?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 13, 2008, 10:06:44 PM
Matt what's Mayhem's being an indicator as to the rampant insecurity found throughout the rest of the fitness industry have to do with this thread though? 

No clue.  Help me tie the two together please.

Aren't you a bisexual fag?
Aryan and proud!<<<< Matt C .Aren't you a fag as well?

Are you suggesting that I puff penises?  ???
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Big Worm on March 13, 2008, 10:10:44 PM


Are you suggesting that I puff penises?  ???
HAHA!  Dude ..You're more "Fairyan" than Aryan..Oh yeah.. M8 also ..
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: GoneAway on March 13, 2008, 10:14:35 PM
simple - it started off with white men using blacks as slaves. so for a long time to come, if not for the rest of eternity, blacks will always be treated this way - having a special day or two for them.

white people try not to make themselves seem like the bad guy again, thus no white pageants, or no white tv, white only schools, etc. blacks would just call them out on the slavery, and these 'white-only' things would be cancelled. it's much like women only gyms - men have beaten women for years, so they, and the government, have no problem with these gyms, yet if a man-only gym was to be erected, women would say they're discriminated against, and because of the years of spousal abuse, would get their way.

that's how the world works, folks.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Tombo on March 13, 2008, 11:50:03 PM
HAHA!  Dude ..You're more "Fairyan" than Aryan..Oh yeah.. M8 also ..

you biased piece of shit
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Danimal77 on March 14, 2008, 12:15:28 AM
So Matt, you're against Jews also? You're quite the winner  ::)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 14, 2008, 01:16:07 AM
HAHA!  Dude ..You're more "Fairyan" than Aryan..Oh yeah.. M8 also ..

Are you suggesting I bite more pillows than Derek Anthony?

So Matt, you're against Jews also? You're quite the winner  ::)

I have a realistic understanding of race.  Interpret that however you wish.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: incognegro on March 14, 2008, 02:22:51 AM
like I said before Stormfront.com not getbig at all. How is this a bodybuilding site all I see is what truly insecure closet racists say when they are hidden behind a avatar and a username. You have your own opinion and are entitled to it. I am african american and had many white friends that mention the same phrases and basically same ideas, but the difference is they say it to my face and then I can share my arguement and It's a legitimate arguement over "reverse racism"  ???. There is one bet and the hispanics have univision etc. yet the whites have had programs that dominated tv since it's inception? Blacks created their own schools because they were not allowed to go to all white colleges those schools are called 1891 schools  or HBCU'S and the kicker is that predominately white company bought out bet? It's not about racism it's about idenity.My post kind of parallels Condor's pretty much same idea
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: candidizzle on March 14, 2008, 06:07:12 AM
there are so many racists on this board, its not even funny..

and no, you dont have to say " i hate blacks!" for me to be able to tell your a racist,

either way...continue with your hate, white men; the more you hate black women the more there are for me.  :D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: candidizzle on March 14, 2008, 06:12:25 AM
I think it is very foolish to dislike a group of people because of the color of their skin or ethnic background. That is true ignorance! However, if there were, for example, a race of people who were overwhelmingly involved in committing violent crimes, refused to educate themselves, turned every neighborhood they inhabited into a slum, impregnated underage teens at record numbers and then abandoned them, and turned every country where they were the ruling majority into total chaos, that would be a different story. You racists make me sick.
it is people in poverty that do all of those things. not black people. white people in poverty are just as bad, if not worse, for society as black people in poverty.    it just happens to be that a big portion of the black communiity is in poverty.


why is that?

it could be from several different causes..     racial injustice ? bias in our society? unequal distribution of education funds..or property taxesd being the source for eductaion funds(areas of poverty have poverty funded education)....  OR it could be that we as white slave owners bred the biggest, strongest, DUMBEST slaves toegther, in order to maximize work efficiency and keep our "property" submissive.

hence the blacks superiority when it comes to athletic genetics and sporting potential...and also, their standardized test scores..

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Moosejay on March 14, 2008, 06:34:46 AM
STFU, little dark-haired, dark-eyed midget-beast.

So I didn't read the long meltdown post at the beginning of this thread, but I take it you all are feeling insecure about some thing. Get over it. 

Affirmative action is not what is keeping you from your rightful place. Your incompetence/general failure as human beings is what's holding you back.

Those of us who are not playing "victim" to the black man and the brown man and the yellow man are doing just fine.   


True.

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: jaejonna on March 14, 2008, 06:39:54 AM
i cant be racist cause Im not white ..
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: dov on March 14, 2008, 07:05:29 AM
So I didn't read the long meltdown post at the beginning of this thread, but I take it you all are feeling insecure about some thing. Get over it. 
pathetic....I guess his attention span is too limited to read such a L O N G post...sick of you f*cks who can't read a post that is longer than one sentence and then try to engage in conversation about a post that you were too lazy to read ....simple mindedness is quickly on the rise
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 14, 2008, 07:17:30 AM
you could make the argument that every day is "white day"



That's right bitch.

There are no rules for planet Earth, it's every man for himself. This is the way it played out. White people are more intelligent, devious and disciplined than the Negroes so we took advantage of them. And we had help from some of them too :D I'm sure they would have done it to us given the chance. Look what they do to each other back in the "motherland" and whatever shithole neighborhood we let them have.


Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: dov on March 14, 2008, 07:25:36 AM
That's right bitch.

There are no rules for planet Earth, it's every man for himself. This is the way it played out. White people are more intelligent, devious and disciplined the Negroes so we took advantage of them. And we had help from some of them too :D I'm sure they would have done it to us given the chance. Look what they do to each other back in the "motherland" and whatever shithole neighborhood we let them have. I



HOLY SHITE! :o
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 14, 2008, 07:29:12 AM

Plenty of poor white folks had the same lack of opportunity, yet they don't turn to crime in the same percentages.

The poor white man stuck to his trailer while the poor black man had to find a gun and gang up, buy expensive cars, clothes and jewelery, sell drugs, kill each other and say fuck no to child support.




Fixed.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The Ugly on March 14, 2008, 07:32:52 AM
OR it could be that we as white slave owners bred the biggest, strongest, DUMBEST slaves toegther, in order to maximize work efficiency and keep our "property" submissive.

hence the blacks superiority when it comes to athletic genetics and sporting potential...and also, their standardized test scores..

That got Jimmy the Greek fired. You must be racist, too.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 14, 2008, 07:37:38 AM
it is people in poverty that do all of those things. not black people. white people in poverty are just as bad, if not worse, for society as black people in poverty.    it just happens to be that a big portion of the black communiity is in poverty.




You are not facing reality. You obviously know nothing of FBI crime statistics in breakdown to Race. You probably don't realize that in countries where the predominant population is of a certain race (Africa. Haiti) there is total Chaos. It's not just a poverty issue. Do you see whites living in Trailer Parks joining gangs and killing each other in record numbers? When I drive down the streets of West Palm Beach in my Mercedes S55 AMG, do you thing I worry about getting Car-jacked by so called "White Trash". It's not going to happen! Having said all that, one of my best friend's is a Black Guy. He's very smart, ambitious and doesn't go around wearing baggie pants muttering "Yo,Yo, yo Whassup, homie" and crap like that. In fact he's embarrassed by the fact people assume he's like that.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 14, 2008, 07:45:09 AM
You are not facing reality. You obviously know nothing of FBI crime statistics in breakdown to Race. You probably don't realize that in countries where the predominant population is of a certain race (Africa. Haiti) there is total Chaos. It's not just a poverty issue. Do you see whites living in Trailer Parks joining gangs and killing each other in record numbers? When I drive down the streets of West Palm Beach in my Mercedes S55 AMG, do you thing I worry about getting Car-jacked by so called "White Trash". It's not going to happen! Having said all that, one of my best friend's is a Black Guy. He's very smart, ambitious and doesn't go around wearing baggie pants muttering "Yo,Yo, yo Whassup, homie" and crap like that. In fact he's embarrassed by the fact people assume he's like that.


I bet your friend is always accused of acting like he is better then the "others", when he is really just being himself and not feeding into some kind of stereo typical way of acting.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 14, 2008, 08:11:30 AM

I bet your friend is always accused of acting like he is better then the "others", when he is really just being himself and not feeding into some kind of stereo typical way of acting.

This guy grew up in a terrible neighborhood, parents were poor, but instead of trying to "fit in" with the crowd and indulge in crime and thuggery, he decided to be an individual. Doesn't mean he was acting white, but was smart enough to see in this country if you are motivated and have a goal, you don't have to be a statistic. There are plenty of successful Blacks out there, but they don't seem to be looked up to by the black community as a whole unless they are a Rapper or a Basketball player. People like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Bill Cosby don't seem to be too popular in the Black Community. When Bill Cosby spoke out against Black Youth's pathetic academic records, ridiculous style of dressing, inability to speak the English language, and propensity for killing, his message was not well received. They'd rather hear Sharpton (who was recently in my town defending teens that committed a horrible rape against a woman, forcing the son to have sex with the mother, pouring ammonia and bleach into their eyes, taking turns on the mom and beating them. He said the suspects were being treated unfairly because the judge wouldn't post bail)blame the white man.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 14, 2008, 09:36:40 AM
This guy grew up in a terrible neighborhood, parents were poor, but instead of trying to "fit in" with the crowd and indulge in crime and thuggery, he decided to be an individual. Doesn't mean he was acting white, but was smart enough to see in this country if you are motivated and have a goal, you don't have to be a statistic. There are plenty of successful Blacks out there, but they don't seem to be looked up to by the black community as a whole unless they are a Rapper or a Basketball player. People like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Bill Cosby don't seem to be too popular in the Black Community. When Bill Cosby spoke out against Black Youth's pathetic academic records, ridiculous style of dressing, inability to speak the English language, and propensity for killing, his message was not well received. They'd rather hear Sharpton (who was recently in my town defending teens that committed a horrible rape against a woman, forcing the son to have sex with the mother, pouring ammonia and bleach into their eyes, taking turns on the mom and beating them. He said the suspects were being treated unfairly because the judge wouldn't post bail)blame the white man.


Just like the Jena 6 who brutally beat some white kids for basically being racist. Are they any better then the fagets they beat up??? Fuck no they are the same if not worse because they chose to retaliate, with larger numbers and caused severe bodily harm to others where as the white kids were just being racist ass holes.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: JediKnight on March 14, 2008, 09:38:14 AM
To "aZn PrYdE" I usually answer "White Pride!" or "White Power!"  :)
(http://images.artnet.com/images_US/magazine/features/cone/cone7-31-4.jpg)

amen
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Hoostugerts on March 14, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
I believe it was Chris Rock who said it best, there are blacks and then there are n**gers. The blacks that are ambitious, talk normal, and contribute to society are upstanding people who get no gripes from anyone but the biggest of human trash. It's the hip-hip culture of the inner city/poor blacks with their gang banging and love for crime that is the problem. But it's not just them. Any poor group of people that feel the need to turn to illegal means will always exist and always cause trouble for everyone else.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: rccs on March 14, 2008, 09:54:45 AM
Calmus...be it White, Hispanic, Black, Muslim, Christians and any other sub group I agree with you. We should celebrate the difference and work together to solve common problems.


Problems arise when all those groups you mentioned are mixed! Multicultural, multirace societies are not functional. Everyone has the right to his own culture, and country. Ever since muslims started to "invade" the western world, problems incresead tremendously. Who are the terrorists? Who are those who beat up woamen in the streets? Who are those that kill and ostracize people that live in their countries but have another religion? What is the region of the planet that since Mankind have any historical regitry, are in constant war with themselves? Western world should give them what their are: Misery, hunger, pain and war... send them back to their shithole and let them kill each others... I'll bet the world would become a better place!!!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: benchmstr on March 14, 2008, 10:01:16 AM
i was a victim in grade school!!! i was the only white kid and no one liked me!! lol
hey i like you,when we going to hook up?  ;)

bench
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: CalvinH on March 14, 2008, 11:23:41 AM
That's right bitch.

There are no rules for planet Earth, it's every man for himself. This is the way it played out. White people are more intelligent, devious and disciplined than the Negroes so we took advantage of them. And we had help from some of them too :D I'm sure they would have done it to us given the chance. Look what they do to each other back in the "motherland" and whatever shithole neighborhood we let them have. I







Ever heard of clicking the preview button when you post ???
why is there an I at the end of your post ??? >:(
 ;)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: bigkid on March 14, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
Why did blacks have marches lead by jesse jackson and Al sharpton after a  black stripper/escort accused 3 white men of raping her, yet nothing when a white girl who has everything going for her (eve carson) is murdered by 2 black thugs?  We see who the real racists are in this society.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 14, 2008, 11:49:41 AM



Ever heard of clicking the preview button when you post ???
why is there an I at the end of your post ??? >:(
 ;)

I don't know what you're talking about
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 14, 2008, 11:51:06 AM
Why did blacks have marches lead by jesse jackson and Al sharpton after a  black stripper/escort accused 3 white men of raping her, yet nothing when a white girl who has everything going for her (eve carson) is murdered by 2 black thugs?  We see who the real racists are in this society.

And P.S., The black chick was lying. ;)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 14, 2008, 11:54:57 AM
Why did blacks have marches lead by jesse jackson and Al sharpton after a  black stripper/escort accused 3 white men of raping her, yet nothing when a white girl who has everything going for her (eve carson) is murdered by 2 black thugs?  We see who the real racists are in this society.

What makes the two african american men thugs and not the white men.  While it is true their is much racism in society it is not untrue that black have endured a lot of biased and I commend and stand by all African american men and women in any battle they choose to fight and win when it has to do with biased.  THis post should be deleted this is clearly a racist post and you call this the best post ever so what would you say is the worst?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: CalvinH on March 14, 2008, 11:55:29 AM
I don't know what you're talking about




Hahaha :D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: FrenchFrie on March 14, 2008, 11:58:14 AM
too bad its too late now that we have millions of black , muslims beaners and asians in our white lands...

its just a matter o decades before they replace us, especially cause they breed 3x faster than us.

future is bloody.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Big Worm on March 14, 2008, 11:59:43 AM
you biased piece of shit
And you're in a racist thread ?  You haven't contributed anything .. So are you in agreeance with the opening post ,or not ?  Oh...Wait a minute ???? Are you part of the Fairyan race ?  My apologies cutey patootie. You get offended easily honey bunny .. Calm down Peach ..Okay?HAHA!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: bigkid on March 14, 2008, 12:03:15 PM
What makes the two african american men thugs and not the white men.  While it is true their is much racism in society it is not untrue that black have endured a lot of biased and I commend and stand by all African american men and women in any battle they choose to fight and win when it has to do with biased.  THis post should be deleted this is clearly a racist post and you call this the best post ever so what would you say is the worst?
Because the white men were collegiate atheletes at one of the best schools in the nation while the black thugs had rap sheets.  Have you seen their pics?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: bigkid on March 14, 2008, 12:13:42 PM
This is from
http://blackpoliticalthought.blogspot.com/

Carson was a student member of the board and student body president. Carson was a pre-medicine student who was double majoring in political science and biology. She received the university's prestigious Morehead Scholarship and was a member of the Phi Beta Kappa honor society, according to UNC. Such a promising young woman has been so coldly taken from our midst by two armed thugs. I hope they throw the book at them.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: SuperNatural on March 14, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
Those Duke lacrosse players were demonized by the media and certain afro-american leaders.  They were found completely innocent.  In fact, the charges were so off-base the prosecuting lawyer was disbarred.  Al Sharpton never gave the players an apology, nor had too!

The hip hop artist, Common (who I like), went so far as saying, "Those ni**ers raped that African princess."  Did Common ever apologize? 

Regardless of race, that situation is messed up.  It would be just as messed up if the players were afro-american and Al Sharpton was anglo.  Yet, this goes unnoticed.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 14, 2008, 02:40:13 PM
Because the white men were collegiate athletes at one of the best schools in the nation while the black thugs had rap sheets.  Have you seen their pics?

And you don't know any white people with rap sheets?  I know a ton,  Just because someone went through a hard time in their life does not mean that you have to give them a hard time for the rest of your life.  So tell me something people are unfortunately raped everyday by people of their own race why don't you post about them.  Do you really believe that the original post stands for anything with any moral standard or anything that will benefit any human being in todays society in any way?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: spinnis on March 14, 2008, 02:59:18 PM
And you don't know any white people with rap sheets?  I know a ton,  Just because someone went through a hard time in their life does not mean that you have to give them a hard time for the rest of your life.  So tell me something people are unfortunately raped everyday by people of their own race why don't you post about them.  Do you really believe that the original post stands for anything with any moral standard or anything that will benefit any human being in todays society in any way?


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Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Fatpanda on March 14, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
too bad its too late now that we have millions of black , muslims beaners and asians in our white lands...

its just a matter o decades before they replace us, especially cause they breed 3x faster than us.

future is bloody.

but we're 3x smarter  ;)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: technokc on March 14, 2008, 05:21:57 PM
this thread is stupid.  The sooner we realize that everyone and I mean EVERYONE is going to be biased towards their own kind wether that be race, nationality, religion, age group, etc the better off we'll be.  America has turned into a land of scared pussies.  Wanna make a black joke?  Than make one, but don't be made if someone talks shit about you too.  Want to have a million man march?  Fine, don't get upset when the KKK has their rallies. 

If your rascist at least stop being a pussy and stick to your guns.  I'd respect someone a whole lot more if they told me straight up they don't like asian people than lie behind my back.  All those straight up pussy celebrities like dog the bounty hunter and kramer should just man up and admit they don't like black people.  Guess what, it's a free fucking country.  On the same token if black people want to make their own universities, pagents, etc that's their perogative.  Stop whining like a bitch.  If your white and not happy than do something about it, down be "a falling down" maniac in the closest.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 14, 2008, 08:10:49 PM
this thread is stupid.  The sooner we realize that everyone and I mean EVERYONE is going to be biased towards their own kind wether that be race, nationality, religion, age group, etc the better off we'll be.  America has turned into a land of scared pussies.  Wanna make a black joke?  Than make one, but don't be made if someone talks shit about you too.  Want to have a million man march?  Fine, don't get upset when the KKK has their rallies. 

If your rascist at least stop being a pussy and stick to your guns.  I'd respect someone a whole lot more if they told me straight up they don't like asian people than lie behind my back.  All those straight up pussy celebrities like dog the bounty hunter and kramer should just man up and admit they don't like black people.  Guess what, it's a free fucking country.  On the same token if black people want to make their own universities, pagents, etc that's their perogative.  Stop whining like a bitch.  If your white and not happy than do something about it, down be "a falling down" maniac in the closest.


THis is the stupidest shit ever you are making excuses for racists.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 08:56:05 PM
What is wrong with being proud of your race?
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 14, 2008, 09:02:33 PM
What is wrong with being proud of your race?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199343.0;attach=240142;image)

Nothing if you are black or any other race.

And the reason that black people are less intelligent, commit more crime, rape more, murder more, etc, etc, is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!!!

Yeah, I'm buying it, how about you?  ::)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 09:07:06 PM
Nothing if you are black or any other race.

And the reason that black people are less intelligent, commit more crime, rape more, murder more, etc, etc, is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!!!

Yeah, I'm buying it, how about you?  ::)
Settle down MattC, it's only internet racism.... ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 14, 2008, 09:09:39 PM
Nothing of course their is something racism is racism no matter where you are and it doesn't matter if its on the internet or in real life its not ok.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 09:18:15 PM
Nothing of course their is something racism is racism no matter where you are and it doesn't matter if its on the internet or in real life its not ok.
Why not? Do you think it is better to hide the issues of the public and deny they exist, or to confront them head on with open discussion? Whether that discussion turns insulting or stays "PC", wouldn't it be better to discuss these things than pretend they don't exist? I would think as a teacher you would advocate open discussion about individualism and the difference between people, including race.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 09:28:26 PM
poor white people ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 09:32:54 PM
poor white people ;D
Higher percentage of poor black people. ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Matt C on March 14, 2008, 09:37:01 PM
I wasn't "racist" either until I realized it actually made sense to be.

http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm

Download FULL 1999 version here:

http://www.nc-f.org/colorcrime99.pdf

But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: m8 on March 14, 2008, 09:38:00 PM
I wasn't "racist" either until I realized it actually made sense to be.

http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm

Download FULL 1999 version here:

http://www.nc-f.org/colorcrime99.pdf

But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!

RACIST!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
I wasn't "racist" either until I realized it actually made sense to be.

http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm

Download FULL 1999 version here:

http://www.nc-f.org/colorcrime99.pdf

But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!

RACIST!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The Ugly on March 14, 2008, 09:40:02 PM
But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!

:)

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 09:40:36 PM
I wasn't "racist" either until I realized it actually made sense to be.

http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm

Download FULL 1999 version here:

http://www.nc-f.org/colorcrime99.pdf

But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!

Matt, I assure you that you're equally despicable to people of all races. 
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 09:45:28 PM
I wasn't "racist" either until I realized it actually made sense to be.

http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm

http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm

Download FULL 1999 version here:

http://www.nc-f.org/colorcrime99.pdf

But hey, not wanting to get shot or stabbed and profiling in order to do so is "racist" right?  ::)  Yeah, well self-preservation happens to be an instinct I possess, so you can label me whatever you want!
seriously your an idiot. Please don't be American. Anyway, it has nothing to do with race, and all to do with poverty.
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=14&cat=1
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 09:47:18 PM
seriously your an idiot. Please don't be American. Anyway, it has nothing to do with race, and all to do with poverty.
http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparebar.jsp?ind=14&cat=1


Don't worry, he's not.  He's in some Canadian hick town.  Probably can't get a decent job, so he's spouting someone else's lines. 
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: whateva on March 14, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
What is wrong with being proud of your race?

How can you be proud of your race/color  ? That's like saying, I'm proud to be 5'9'' feet, I'm proud to have blue eyes, I'm proud to speak English, I'm proud of my big feet.......                                        Be proud of something that you accomplished  ,not something that you didn't do shit for,or you have not control over it . :)      
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: CARTEL on March 14, 2008, 09:49:09 PM
How can you be proud of your race/color  ? That's like saying, I'm proud to be 5'9'' feet, I'm proud to have blue eyes, I'm proud to speak English, I'm proud of my big feet.......                                        Be proud of something that you accomplished  ,not something that you didn't do shit for,or you have not control over it . :)      

Exactly. The easiest thing in the world is to be born a certain color.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 09:49:54 PM
How can you be proud of your race/color  ? That's like saying, I'm proud to be 5'9'' feet, I'm proud to have blue eyes, I'm proud to speak English, I'm proud of my big feet.......                                        Be proud of something that you accomplished  ,not something that you didn't do shit for,or you have not control over it . :)       
Im 5'10 and wear a size 13. I bet i got my beat.  :)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: whateva on March 14, 2008, 09:54:21 PM
Im 5'10 and wear a size 13. I bet i got my beat.  :)
5' 10, size 13,  damn  :o :o  I bet you are  proud as fuck .   :D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 10:00:22 PM
How can you be proud of your race/color  ? That's like saying, I'm proud to be 5'9'' feet, I'm proud to have blue eyes, I'm proud to speak English, I'm proud of my big feet.......                                        Be proud of something that you accomplished  ,not something that you didn't do shit for,or you have not control over it . :)      
So you're not proud of what you are? You are ashamed of your race, why?

Pride does not only apply to an accomplishment, if you have no pride in yourself and what/who you are as a person, how can you be proud of your accomplishments? Inside you will always feel hollow, probably why you turned to steroids, you weren't proud of what you could do on your own. Sad, really. :-\

But, whateva....... :)
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Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 10:04:20 PM
White people used to be proud of the race until Matt C began associating himself with it.  :'(

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Post by: HowieW on March 14, 2008, 10:05:01 PM
So you're not proud of what you are? You are ashamed of your race, why?

Pride does not only apply to an accomplishment, if you have no pride in yourself and what/who you are as a person, how can you be proud of your accomplishments? Inside you will always feel hollow, probably why you turned to steroids, you weren't proud of what you could do on your own. Sad, really. :-\

But, whateva....... :)

Just my cents...but all people are one race, the HUMAN race. I don't think we have any aliens from another world living here do we. I sincerely believe we should all be judged on our indivdual merit, no special favors or discrimination.
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Post by: chaos on March 14, 2008, 10:06:22 PM
Just my cents...but all people are one race, the HUMAN race. I don't think we have any aliens from another world living here do we. I sincerely belive we should all be judged on our indivdual merit, no special favors or discrimination.
HowieW, if you could, would you hug MattC through your computer screen?
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Post by: whateva on March 14, 2008, 10:07:20 PM
So you're not proud of what you are? You are ashamed of your race, why?

Pride does not only apply to an accomplishment, if you have no pride in yourself and what/who you are as a person, how can you be proud of your accomplishments? Inside you will always feel hollow, probably why you turned to steroids, you weren't proud of what you could do on your own. Sad, really. :-\

But, whateva....... :)
Can’t you be proud of who you are without bringing in the element of pigmentation?

                                                                                                                            PS: lifetime natural
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: HowieW on March 14, 2008, 10:08:59 PM
HowieW, if you could, would you hug MattC through your computer screen?
Only if I could hug you as well and end up with the 3 of us all hot and lathered up in the shower big guy hehe.
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Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 10:10:37 PM
Can’t you be proud of who you are without bringing in the element of pigmentation?

                                                                                                                            PS: lifetime natural

Can't help it. I like the eye and hair color my ancestors passed down to me.  It reminds me of where I come from.  But I don't think it makes me better automatically.
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Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 10:16:19 PM
Can't help it. I like the eye and hair color my ancestors passed down to me.  It reminds me of where I come from.  But I don't think it makes me better automatically.
Ohio..... ;D
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Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 10:17:42 PM
Ohio..... ;D


??? Don't get it.
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Post by: Fatpanda on March 14, 2008, 10:19:42 PM
Can't help it. I like the eye and hair color my ancestors passed down to me.  It reminds me of where I come from.  But I don't think it makes me better automatically.

if you are white it does. hence all the hate of the white man - pure jealousy :'(
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Post by: HTexan on March 14, 2008, 10:24:53 PM


??? Don't get it.
lame joke.  :-[
Your not from anywhere but your home state. traits as silly as hair color tell your nothing about yourself.
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Post by: whateva on March 14, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
So ,this white chick, is better than the black chik ,just because her colour :)
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Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 14, 2008, 10:29:21 PM
seriously your an idiot. Please don't be American. Anyway, it has nothing to do with race, and all to do with poverty.
 
Not quite true. If that were the case, then all the trailer park whites would be joining gangs and go around killing each other in record numbers. I don't worry about getting car-jacked by so-called "White Trash". Have you noticed all the dysfunction and chaos in countries like Haiti and Africa? Look at the crime rate in New Orleans..off the charts. Isn't safe to say that some races are more prone to violence and mayhem just like some breeds of Dogs are more vicious than others?
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Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 10:31:34 PM
lame joke.  :-[
Your not from anywhere but your home state. traits as silly as hair color tell your nothing about yourself.

Don't agree. It means something when your grandmother tells you have the same eyes that her grandfather did (my eyes are a somewhat unusual color).  Maybe it's not pride, but it matters to me.

It doesn't matter anyway .... as far as I'm concerned, I have more in common with an orangutan than I do with someone like Matt C.
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Post by: CARTEL on March 14, 2008, 10:40:20 PM
Don't agree. It means something when your grandmother tells you have the same eyes that her grandfather did (my eyes are a somewhat unusual color).  Maybe it's not pride, but it matters to me.

It doesn't matter anyway .... as far as I'm concerned, I have more in common with an orangutan than I do with someone like Matt C.

You have orangutan titties.
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Post by: calmus on March 14, 2008, 10:48:04 PM
You have orangutan titties.

Hi Matt C.
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Post by: CARTEL on March 14, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
Hi Matt C.

Don't ever call me a Canadien.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: bigkid on March 15, 2008, 06:29:36 AM
And you don't know any white people with rap sheets?  I know a ton,  Just because someone went through a hard time in their life does not mean that you have to give them a hard time for the rest of your life.  So tell me something people are unfortunately raped everyday by people of their own race why don't you post about them.  Do you really believe that the original post stands for anything with any moral standard or anything that will benefit any human being in todays society in any way?
You're changing what i said to fit your own little agenda.  I was citing a specific incident.  You are speaking in generalizations.  I'm simply saying, the black community in raleigh durham were protesting and making it a race issue when 3 white guys were accused of raping a black stripper, yet if the white community marched and made it a race issue when a white girl who was the president of student goverment and a double major at unc was murdered by 2 black guys, they would all be considered racists.
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Post by: HTexan on March 15, 2008, 07:02:05 AM
Not quite true. If that were the case, then all the trailer park whites would be joining gangs and go around killing each other in record numbers. I don't worry about getting car-jacked by so-called "White Trash". Have you noticed all the dysfunction and chaos in countries like Haiti and Africa? Look at the crime rate in New Orleans..off the charts. Isn't safe to say that some races are more prone to violence and mayhem just like some breeds of Dogs are more vicious than others?
If your compare the stats, poor white people are a very small minority. There are only 12% of white people in the US in poverty.  There are far your poor black people in the us at 33%. Thats almost triple.
Those countries are third world, therfore not a good reference point. Look a russia, high murder and crime rate and mostly white.
In the US 56% of sex base crimes are commit by white people. In canada, that number 84.3%.
So by your logic, white people are prone to rape people?? ::)
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Post by: technokc on March 15, 2008, 09:14:09 AM
THis is the stupidest shit ever you are making excuses for racists.

Not making excuses for rascists at all, and believe me growing up as mixed kid in america I've been on the receiving end of more racial bullshit than you can imagine, I basically got it from both sides.  What I'm saying is that it exists plain and simple no way around it.  If you want to live in a fairytale world in which you think hiding from the truth is going to make it go a way be my guest.

Have you ever seen the comraderie exhibited by a close sports team or people in the army?  They make rascist jokes about each other all day long.  Why do they not get offended?  The reason is because they realize that it is just they way it is and if person A makes a racial joke about person B it doesn't mean they don't like that person. 

It's funny, but being mixed I can just feel it when someone doesn't like me for my race, the fucked up thing is they are usually the very polite ones to your face.  The ones who come out and joke and be themselves I trust much more.
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Post by: incognegro on March 15, 2008, 10:17:26 AM
Well stated tech  very well put I have friends of all different races and backrounds and we do the same things. I don't take offence when I know the persons true heart and character
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 15, 2008, 10:36:39 AM
Many people have friends of different races does that make it ok to post something like what was posted to begin with
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Post by: jonsande on March 15, 2008, 01:36:41 PM
Silly people.  We're all members of the same species in which variations are expressed only by the most microscopic gene differences, guided by natural selection and the environment.  All of your "white pride", "black pride", and etc are fundamentally useless and artificial.

It's amazing that we simultaneously live in an age where we can fly robots to Mars and people still living and dying according to arbitrary borders, delusional faiths, and skin pigmentation like a bunch of crazed ancient tribes. 

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Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 15, 2008, 04:20:39 PM
Silly people.  We're all members of the same species in which variations are expressed only by the most microscopic gene differences, guided by natural selection and the environment.  All of your "white pride", "black pride", and etc are fundamentally useless and artificial.

It's amazing that we simultaneously live in an age where we can fly robots to Mars and people still living and dying according to arbitrary borders, delusional faiths, and skin pigmentation like a bunch of crazed ancient tribes. 



Wise words and we all wish things could be the way they should. Unfortunately, you have a huge number of people that have been brainwashed by Gangsta' rap Videos and their peers into believing that crack dealing, car jacking, murder and rape are viable career choices. White America is brainwashed by our politically correct media into sitting back and not speaking out against it. For the most part, it is tolerated because a great majority of the victims of Black crime are other Black criminals. But when we keep seeing defenseless white female college students being slaughtered and similar heinous acts, people are starting to speak out. Most of it's just being expressed on the internet, but people don't want to be victimized by sub-human, unevolved, predatory savages. You have a race of people, except for a small minority, who refuse to educate themselves, have no sense of community or pride in their neighborhood, impregnate teenage girls and abandon them, shun honest employment, and gravitate towards violent crime. If anyone has a solution to this, I'd love to hear it. This isn't racist talk, it's reality. If I were black, I would be speaking out against the hoodlums, instead of blaming the white man. It's always, "Well..they grew up in the 'Hood, so we gotta cut the homies some slack."
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 05:13:09 PM
Only if I could hug you as well and end up with the 3 of us all hot and lathered up in the shower big guy hehe.
Only if MattC is in the middle.





















On a side note, I love how this thread has turned out. Simple logical debate.

But I would feel safer walking down the broken ass white trash trailer parks, than I would even driving through some black ass ghetto.

Someone said it earlier I think, proportionally poor whites are still less likely to commit violent crimes than poor blacks. I don't understand why some people argue about this. All you can do is be a law abiding citizen, keep your head on straight and stay away from violent crime......and make your race proud. How many minorities reading this board are doing that?

That is all. :)
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Post by: jonsande on March 15, 2008, 05:29:19 PM
Wise words and we all wish things could be the way they should. Unfortunately, you have a huge number of people that have been brainwashed by Gangsta' rap Videos and their peers into believing that crack dealing, car jacking, murder and rape are viable career choices. White America is brainwashed by our politically correct media into sitting back and not speaking out against it. For the most part, it is tolerated because a great majority of the victims of Black crime are other Black criminals. But when we keep seeing defenseless white female college students being slaughtered and similar heinous acts, people are starting to speak out. Most of it's just being expressed on the internet, but people don't want to be victimized by sub-human, unevolved, predatory savages. You have a race of people, except for a small minority, who refuse to educate themselves, have no sense of community or pride in their neighborhood, impregnate teenage girls and abandon them, shun honest employment, and gravitate towards violent crime. If anyone has a solution to this, I'd love to hear it. This isn't racist talk, it's reality. If I were black, I would be speaking out against the hoodlums, instead of blaming the white man. It's always, "Well..they grew up in the 'Hood, so we gotta cut the homies some slack."

Here's how it is with regard to what you're speaking about. 

So that you understand I have full credibility and insight into this, I want to first mention that I'm black, and I want to secondly mention that I'm from Detroit, and I've seen and dealt with most of the aforementioned issues personally.

It's very easy (and understandable) to view the situation at hand as a bunch of 'predatory savages' running amok in the streets, but the reality is much more complicated.  You have to make sense of the fact that in most of the worst neighborhoods in the country, the educational system is useless.  The teachers don't give a damn, and at least in Detroit, strike at every opportunity.  I've volunteered for years in various schools as a tutor, and the kids are so dejected, hopeless, and depressed that they just don't give a damn about anything.  The ones that do care are so far behind academically that most of them end up running out of steam and dropping out.  Quite literally, it's easier make a living off of selling drugs than it is to get an education.  Only the rarest students even finish, let alone move on to college.  It's not a choice that most people have, which is what you inferred earlier by your tone and statements.

Next, I agree with you about the rap; it's gotten pretty ignorant, and there's underlying cultural issues that I won't get into here simply because it would be too long and drawn out.

Thirdly, no pride in neighborhood?  That's not something that you can just relegate to black people.  Part of the reason why Detroit and most other midwestern cities in particular got to the state it did is from racial and religious intolerance - (white) people refusing to live by blacks and jews, no matter how upstanding they were. So, especially in the D's case, well, they just moved out.  How is that for neighborhood pride?  When you think about it, if everyone would have just held their ground, the city would be a much better place:  diverse, more populous, and healthy.  It wasn't based on 'crime' - and there's documentation to prove it (read "Urban Crisis" by Thomas Sugrue), but really a complex web of excuses and justifications for picking up and leaving out of ignorance. 

Defenseless white college students?  Like the ones who get shot up by the closest thing you can imagine to the angry white suburbanite stereotype in the cases of Virginia, Columbine, and others?  Please.  We can go back and forth on this indefinitely because there's ample examples of violence across ethnicity, but the central point is that each race, still being a member of the human species, is flawed and acts according to the way evolution wired us; scared, territorial, irrational, and violent.

The sooner we can acknowledge this universally, the more prepared we'll be to use the pinnacle of our development - our brains - to change ourselves for the better.

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 05:37:43 PM
Here's how it is with regard to what you're speaking about. 

So that you understand I have full credibility and insight into this, I want to first mention that I'm black, and I want to secondly mention that I'm from Detroit, and I've seen and dealt with most of the aforementioned issues personally.

It's very easy (and understandable) to view the situation at hand as a bunch of 'predatory savages' running amok in the streets, but the reality is much more complicated.  You have to make sense of the fact that in most of the worst neighborhoods in the country, the educational system is useless.  The teachers don't give a damn, and at least in Detroit, strike at every opportunity.  I've volunteered for years in various schools as a tutor, and the kids are so dejected, hopeless, and depressed that they just don't give a damn about anything.  The ones that do care are so far behind academically that most of them end up running out of steam and dropping out.  Quite literally, it's easier make a living off of selling drugs than it is to get an education.  Only the rarest students even finish, let alone move on to college.  It's not a choice that most people have, which is what you inferred earlier by your tone and statements.

Next, I agree with you about the rap; it's gotten pretty ignorant, and there's underlying cultural issues that I won't get into here simply because it would be too long and drawn out.

Thirdly, no pride in neighborhood?  That's not something that you can just relegate to black people.  Part of the reason why Detroit and most other midwestern cities in particular got to the state it did is from racial and religious intolerance - (white) people refusing to live by blacks and jews, no matter how upstanding they were. So, especially in the D's case, well, they just moved out.  How is that for neighborhood pride?  When you think about it, if everyone would have just held their ground, the city would be a much better place:  diverse, more populous, and healthy.  It wasn't based on 'crime' - and there's documentation to prove it (read "Urban Crisis" by Thomas Sugrue), but really a complex web of excuses and justifications for picking up and leaving out of ignorance. 

Defenseless white college students?  Like the ones who get shot up by the closest thing you can imagine to the angry white suburbanite stereotype in the cases of Virginia, Columbine, and others?  Please.  We can go back and forth on this indefinitely because there's ample examples of violence across ethnicity, but the central point is that each race, still being a member of the human species, is flawed and acts according to the way evolution wired us; scared, territorial, irrational, and violent.

The sooner we can acknowledge this universally, the more prepared we'll be to use the pinnacle of our development - our brains - to change ourselves for the better.


Settle down and get it out in five sentences or less.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Wesco on March 15, 2008, 05:56:32 PM
Why don't you make a parade about these shit instead of posting it on a board if you're so passionate about.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Dballn247 on March 15, 2008, 06:00:31 PM
Ok taking it to the State College level...

How come they can have all Black, Hispanic, Asian fraternities/sororities and no one thinks twice about it, yet if we had an all White Frat we'd be holding a Klan meeting?  ??? Some serious double standards here. :-\
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 06:03:04 PM
Why don't you make a parade about these shit instead of posting it on a board if you're so passionate about.
Keep quiet, newb.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 15, 2008, 06:09:50 PM
Settle down and get it out in five sentences or less.

I'll translate for you:   "We should just nuke Detroit and start over".
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
I'll translate for you:   "We should just nuke Detroit and start over".
Can we do LA next? :D
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Post by: G o a t b o y on March 15, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
Can we do LA next? :D


Nah...  lotsa places far worse than LA.  I'd put every "city" in the Rust Belt at the top of my list.  Most are just dragging our country down at this point.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 06:47:50 PM

Nah...  lotsa places far worse than LA.  I'd put every "city" in the Rust Belt at the top of my list.  Most are just dragging our country down at this point.
How about Disneyland on a Saturday afternoon? :D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 15, 2008, 06:49:59 PM
How about Disneyland on a Saturday afternoon? :D



Do they do fireworks then too?
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Post by: ~weed~ on March 15, 2008, 06:52:10 PM
 hi  :)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2008, 06:57:57 PM


Do they do fireworks then too?
No but it would probably be jam packed with "those kind" ;)
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 15, 2008, 08:23:54 PM
Here's how it is with regard to what you're speaking about. 

So that you understand I have full credibility and insight into this, I want to first mention that I'm black, and I want to secondly mention that I'm from Detroit, and I've seen and dealt with most of the aforementioned issues personally.

It's very easy (and understandable) to view the situation at hand as a bunch of 'predatory savages' running amok in the streets, but the reality is much more complicated.  You have to make sense of the fact that in most of the worst neighborhoods in the country, the educational system is useless.  The teachers don't give a damn, and at least in Detroit, strike at every opportunity.  I've volunteered for years in various schools as a tutor, and the kids are so dejected, hopeless, and depressed that they just don't give a damn about anything.  The ones that do care are so far behind academically that most of them end up running out of steam and dropping out.  Quite literally, it's easier make a living off of selling drugs than it is to get an education.  Only the rarest students even finish, let alone move on to college.  It's not a choice that most people have, which is what you inferred earlier by your tone and statements.

Next, I agree with you about the rap; it's gotten pretty ignorant, and there's underlying cultural issues that I won't get into here simply because it would be too long and drawn out.

Thirdly, no pride in neighborhood?  That's not something that you can just relegate to black people.  Part of the reason why Detroit and most other midwestern cities in particular got to the state it did is from racial and religious intolerance - (white) people refusing to live by blacks and jews, no matter how upstanding they were. So, especially in the D's case, well, they just moved out.  How is that for neighborhood pride?  When you think about it, if everyone would have just held their ground, the city would be a much better place:  diverse, more populous, and healthy.  It wasn't based on 'crime' - and there's documentation to prove it (read "Urban Crisis" by Thomas Sugrue), but really a complex web of excuses and justifications for picking up and leaving out of ignorance. 

Defenseless white college students?  Like the ones who get shot up by the closest thing you can imagine to the angry white suburbanite stereotype in the cases of Virginia, Columbine, and others?  Please.  We can go back and forth on this indefinitely because there's ample examples of violence across ethnicity, but the central point is that each race, still being a member of the human species, is flawed and acts according to the way evolution wired us; scared, territorial, irrational, and violent.

The sooner we can acknowledge this universally, the more prepared we'll be to use the pinnacle of our development - our brains - to change ourselves for the better.



That was a very insightful post. My ex-wife was a teacher who worked with innercity problem kids and she had a lot of compassion for them. I don't mean to denigrate and stereotype a whole race of people. I'm stating merely how this situation is viewed to most of the country but because people don't want to offend, nobody says what they really feel. I'm sure I was raised with advantages that many of these people I'm describing did not. I have some compassion but I think the black youth of today need more positive role models. The thuggery stuff  has to stop. I've already sent my girlfriend to get licensed to carry a concealed weapon. While I understand the plight of the "Hood", I still refuse to become a victim to it. And I refuse to let the people I care about get killed by these"misguided" youths. Not on my watch!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: technokc on March 16, 2008, 12:08:52 AM
Here's how it is with regard to what you're speaking about. 

So that you understand I have full credibility and insight into this, I want to first mention that I'm black, and I want to secondly mention that I'm from Detroit, and I've seen and dealt with most of the aforementioned issues personally.

It's very easy (and understandable) to view the situation at hand as a bunch of 'predatory savages' running amok in the streets, but the reality is much more complicated.  You have to make sense of the fact that in most of the worst neighborhoods in the country, the educational system is useless.  The teachers don't give a damn, and at least in Detroit, strike at every opportunity.  I've volunteered for years in various schools as a tutor, and the kids are so dejected, hopeless, and depressed that they just don't give a damn about anything.  The ones that do care are so far behind academically that most of them end up running out of steam and dropping out.  Quite literally, it's easier make a living off of selling drugs than it is to get an education.  Only the rarest students even finish, let alone move on to college.  It's not a choice that most people have, which is what you inferred earlier by your tone and statements.

Next, I agree with you about the rap; it's gotten pretty ignorant, and there's underlying cultural issues that I won't get into here simply because it would be too long and drawn out.

Thirdly, no pride in neighborhood?  That's not something that you can just relegate to black people.  Part of the reason why Detroit and most other midwestern cities in particular got to the state it did is from racial and religious intolerance - (white) people refusing to live by blacks and jews, no matter how upstanding they were. So, especially in the D's case, well, they just moved out.  How is that for neighborhood pride?  When you think about it, if everyone would have just held their ground, the city would be a much better place:  diverse, more populous, and healthy.  It wasn't based on 'crime' - and there's documentation to prove it (read "Urban Crisis" by Thomas Sugrue), but really a complex web of excuses and justifications for picking up and leaving out of ignorance. 

Defenseless white college students?  Like the ones who get shot up by the closest thing you can imagine to the angry white suburbanite stereotype in the cases of Virginia, Columbine, and others?  Please.  We can go back and forth on this indefinitely because there's ample examples of violence across ethnicity, but the central point is that each race, still being a member of the human species, is flawed and acts according to the way evolution wired us; scared, territorial, irrational, and violent.

The sooner we can acknowledge this universally, the more prepared we'll be to use the pinnacle of our development - our brains - to change ourselves for the better.




pretty intelligent post. . . . . . . .



































for a black guy!









































LOL ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Moosejay on March 16, 2008, 02:04:23 AM
That was a very insightful post. My ex-wife was a teacher who worked with innercity problem kids and she had a lot of compassion for them. I don't mean to denigrate and stereotype a whole race of people. I'm stating merely how this situation is viewed to most of the country but because people don't want to offend, nobody says what they really feel. I'm sure I was raised with advantages that many of these people I'm describing did not. I have some compassion but I think the black youth of today need more positive role models. The thuggery stuff  has to stop. I've already sent my girlfriend to get licensed to carry a concealed weapon. While I understand the plight of the "Hood", I still refuse to become a victim to it. And I refuse to let the people I care about get killed by these"misguided" youths. Not on my watch!

My sister is a teacher in the inner city.

She brought me in as guest-speaker. I did bodyfat tests, gave out wards and money, was not boring.

These kids could not shut up, pay attention, stop sleeping and drroling, and talking on cell phones.

Well, I turned off their phones with my cell phone jammer :)

But the rest, I spoke to my sister and said, "Tell these kids to shut the hell up..."

"Oh no, we can't..."

She went on to tell me that the parents don't care. BUT, if you give them something to care about...ie...discipline their kidss righteously, well, then, they will look for you, go past security, whatever. They will try to sue you or take you down or whatever.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: jonsande on March 16, 2008, 12:15:59 PM
My sister is a teacher in the inner city.

She brought me in as guest-speaker. I did bodyfat tests, gave out wards and money, was not boring.

These kids could not shut up, pay attention, stop sleeping and drroling, and talking on cell phones.

Well, I turned off their phones with my cell phone jammer :)

But the rest, I spoke to my sister and said, "Tell these kids to shut the hell up..."

"Oh no, we can't..."

She went on to tell me that the parents don't care. BUT, if you give them something to care about...ie...discipline their kidss righteously, well, then, they will look for you, go past security, whatever. They will try to sue you or take you down or whatever.

That's true, a lot of the parents really don't care, but these days, there's a good two or three generations of families that have a very ignorant view of how the world works, only because they don't know better.

Its tough sometimes.  I know that black folks of my grandparents' generation (baby boomer's parents) that actually experienced Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement firsthand are turning in their graves.  Us black people are in a strange place because we've managed to simultaneously better and worsen our positions at the same time. We're more 'privileged' than past generations have ever been, but there's strong pressure to behave stereotypically which is exactly what the MLK Jrs, Booker T Washingtons, and Thurgood Marshalls of the past didn't want to happen. 

I don't know what the solution to all of this is, but all I can do personally is not put to waste what was done for me in the 60's.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 16, 2008, 12:37:31 PM
That's true, a lot of the parents really don't care, but these days, there's a good two or three generations of families that have a very ignorant view of how the world works, only because they don't know better.

Its tough sometimes.  I know that black folks of my grandparents' generation (baby boomer's parents) that actually experienced Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement firsthand are turning in their graves.  Us black people are in a strange place because we've managed to simultaneously better and worsen our positions at the same time. We're more 'privileged' than past generations have ever been, but there's strong pressure to behave stereotypically  which is exactly what the MLK Jrs, Booker T Washingtons, and Thurgood Marshalls of the past didn't want to happen. 

I don't know what the solution to all of this is, but all I can do personally is not put to waste what was done for me in the 60's.
It's called peer pressure, everyone experiences it, it's how you react to it that will dictate your future. Follow or lead. ;)



but all I can do personally is not put to waste what was done for me in the 60's.

Exactly, quit living up to the expectations of the black community and branch out to succeed, although they will call you a traitor.....

Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 16, 2008, 01:37:41 PM
That's true, a lot of the parents really don't care, but these days, there's a good two or three generations of families that have a very ignorant view of how the world works, only because they don't know better.

Its tough sometimes.  I know that black folks of my grandparents' generation (baby boomer's parents) that actually experienced Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement firsthand are turning in their graves.  Us black people are in a strange place because we've managed to simultaneously better and worsen our positions at the same time. We're more 'privileged' than past generations have ever been, but there's strong pressure to behave stereotypically which is exactly what the MLK Jrs, Booker T Washingtons, and Thurgood Marshalls of the past didn't want to happen. 

I don't know what the solution to all of this is, but all I can do personally is not put to waste what was done for me in the 60's.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. Perhaps if people like yourself were able to lecture at middle schools before the real damage is done, some lives could be steered in another direction. There was a lot of negative racial sterotyping on this thread (which I contributed to heavily) and instead of responding in a  combative tone, you made some good points. Of course, if you now admit you're not really Black, then I've been punked!
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: chaos on March 16, 2008, 01:43:04 PM
I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. Perhaps if people like yourself were able to lecture at middle schools before the real damage is done, some lives could be steered in another direction. There was a lot of negative racial sterotyping on this thread (which I contributed to heavily) and instead of responding in a  combative tone, you made some good points. Of course, if you now admit you're not really Black, then I've been punked!
Unfortunately middle school is too late, elementary would be better.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: MAXX on March 16, 2008, 01:43:52 PM
either way...continue with your hate, white men; the more you hate black women the more there are for me.  :D

black women are ugly most of the time anyway.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Fatpanda on March 16, 2008, 02:09:54 PM
it makes zero difference who lectures to these kids now and again in school, its their parents who have to lecture to them everyday through life to make any real difference, its them who are the problem, not the children, or the area they live or having no money.

i am a teacher, i see it first hand, junkie dead beat parents (black and white) have children who don't want to learn, who dont apply themselves, who try to distrupt classes. it all stems from the parents because their parents simply dont care. :'(
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: Paul Allen on March 16, 2008, 02:16:52 PM
any colored kid in one of his schools that would try to answer a teacher's question, take notes, read...basically do anything other than threaten to cap niggaz all day long would get his ass kicked daily by his "peers".

of course, in true negroid fashion, they wouldn't fight the nerd kid one on one, they'd jump him in an alley and steal his wallet.
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: jonsande on March 17, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. Perhaps if people like yourself were able to lecture at middle schools before the real damage is done, some lives could be steered in another direction. There was a lot of negative racial sterotyping on this thread (which I contributed to heavily) and instead of responding in a  combative tone, you made some good points. Of course, if you now admit you're not really Black, then I've been punked!

Nope, you haven't been punked.  ;D
Title: Re: Best post EVER.
Post by: jonsande on March 17, 2008, 04:41:18 PM
Unfortunately middle school is too late, elementary would be better.

Yeah, elementary school is probably the best place to start.