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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Deicide on March 03, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
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Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.
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The puppy was innocent, hell given the opportunity it could probably blend into our culture and become an American puppy. The same can not be said for Iraqis, thats why no one really cares that they are being killed.
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Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.
YES I agree.
people definitely need to get their priorities straight
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Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.
The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.
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The puppy was innocent, hell given the opportunity it could probably blend into our culture and become an American puppy. The same can not be said for Iraqis, thats why no one really cares that they are being killed.
Normal working families and their children are not innocent? Are you on crack? Where the fuck did you get that info?
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Pointing out when something is messed up IS having your priorities straight.
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Normal working families and their children are not innocent? Are you on crack? Where the fuck did you get that info?
Some are innocent, some aren't. But that puppy was definitely innocent.
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The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.
I agree but claiming that normal Iraqi families are not innocent....at the very least their children.... :-\
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The people here saw an act of heartless, unwarranted cruelty and expressed a bit of emotion man. Going by what you say we can either constantly sweat and bawl about all the atrocities in the world or just be cold blooded altogether. Bad shit happens everyday in every part of the world and we can only stop and get involved when it crosses paths with us in some way - you got to live your life too.
being cold blooded has nothing to do with it
it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.
my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.
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Pointing out when something is messed up IS having your priorities straight.
Not enough people pointing out human rights abuses. I agree about the puppy but do you get upset by this as well?
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being cold blooded has nothing to do with it
it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.
my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.
Exactly.
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maybe the dog was pissing him off?
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I'm more concerned about what might become of that soldier in the future. People that display animal cruelty and sadistic behavior are often on a common path to become very sick individuals that are a danger to people around them.
Look up http://www.google.com/search?q=serial+killers+animal+cruelty
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So you can't have a thread about one topic? You can't care about more than one thing?
I love the "this is worse so shut up about that" argument.
Maybe that's the problem.
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The world is messed up. Competing entities that are above us, plain and simple.
All we can do it live our lives and try not to fall for BS.
Nobody will ever 'change the world' again.
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it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.
Putting it into perspective is knowing there are assholes like that all over that could care about other living things. And I have to live amongst them.
If a person gets off on being cruel, yeah, I put that into perspective.
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being cold blooded has nothing to do with it
it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.
my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.
Just because people here are expressing sympathy for the puppy doesn't mean they are oblivious to all those other atrocities dude. This is a forum where different topics are discussed and the reactions vary depending on the subject under discussion. Say what you want, it doesn't matter how many civilians are killed or how many people starve - none of that takes away from the fact that what the asshole in the video clip did was just plain unacceptable.
I'm sure if most of the people here (if not all of them) came across a victim of war or crime or whatever, they'd be sympathetic and helpful in whatever way possible. And no matter what the tragedy is, there's always a bigger one that will make it pale in comparison. How would you like it if a loved one of yours died and someone came and said, "You can't be serious - so and so has suffered way more than you because they have lost 2 or 3 members of their family in war" - would you immediately feel fully consoled or ashamed that you were grieving over what is metaphysically less significant?
Just because there is something worse out there doesn't mean you can use that as an excuse and ignore or be unsympathetic to something far less bad that's happening in front of your eyes.
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good post kiwi
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So you can't have a thread about one topic? You can't care about more than one thing?
I love the "this is worse so shut up about that" argument.
Maybe that's the problem.
No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.
There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it.
No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.
There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it
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No, that's not the argument. But there should be such lengthy threads on human rights abuses as well.
There are priorities. If it took the death of 10,000 dogs to produce a cure for all forms of cancer in humans, most would agree and go ahead with it
so go start one.
Don't you think there are more important things to be upset about than how many threads are going on different topics and how long they are.
get your priorities straight.
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good post kiwi
Does this mean you're gonna PM me some raunchy pics? ;D
Oh wait, someone just died in Iraq - I'm gonna grieve cause otherwise I'm not human like Deicide or MB ::)
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Does this mean you're gonna PM me some raunchy pics? ;D
Oh wait, someone just died in Iraq - I'm gonna grieve cause otherwise I'm not human like Deicide or MB ::)
when the world is at peace and tranquility is the word!
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when the world is at peace and tranquility is the word!
In other words when you have your next joint? Sweet :P
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so go start one.
Don't you think there are more important things to be upset about than how many threads are going on different topics and how long they are.
get your priorities straight.
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That's not the point. I know you like dogs.
I have a question for you.
If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?
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That's not the point. I know you like dogs.
I have a question for you.
If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?
thats easy.....
duh
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Just because people here are expressing sympathy for the puppy doesn't mean they are oblivious to all those other atrocities dude. This is a forum and different topics are discussed and the reactions vary depending on the subject under discussion. Say what you want, it doesn't matter how many civilians are killed or how many people starve - none of that takes away from the fact that what the asshole in the video clip did was just plain unacceptable.
I'm sure if most of the people here (if not all of them) came across a victim of war or crime or whatever, they'd be sympathetic and helpful in whatever way possible. And no matter what the tragedy is, there's always a bigger one that will make it pale in comparison. How would you like it if a loved one of yours died and someone came and said, "You can't be serious - so and so has suffered way more than you because they have lost 2 or 3 members of their family in war" - would you immediately feel fully consoled or ashamed that you were grieving over what is metaphysically less significant?
Just because there is something worse out there doesn't mean you can use that as an excuse and ignore or be unsympathetic to something far less bad that's happening in front of your eyes.
sure anyone can be sympathetic to the situation, you are free to have those feelings.
The death of an animal no matter how it dies is never as tragic when a human being dies. So whether or not we make comparisons on what is worse or better for anyone. The death of an animal is no big deal. It's a bloody animal!
it's human to mourn the death of an animal. It's human to have emotions. There has to come a point where things like this are put into perspective. Especially the location of the soldier and why he is in Iraq where people are losing their lives and suffering because of this war.
What I think is disturbing is when we come to the point that we make pets or farm animals etc. as equal to humans. As one of our own as they say.
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thats easy.....
duh
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Perhaps not for Flower....
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Perhaps not for Flower....
perhaps you read that wrong
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That's not the point. I know you like dogs.
I have a question for you.
If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?
The amount of suffering in the world in every form is way beyond the scope or capacity of one person or even an entire nation to address man, let alone try to put an end to it. You shouldn't let that lead you into feeling guilty of having a good life yourself - if you feel so strongly, do what you can to help improve the situation. Don't try to instill guilt into others by pointing out the existence of all the bad stuff. We didn't create any of the bad stuff.
Just about everyone feels helpless and indignant when they see suffering in areas of the world that are beyond their reach or even in their own backyard where the situation is beyond their control. Can you stop that from living your life? If it does, then go help those people out or kill yourself cause you are miserable - don't take a moral stance and try and act all superior by pointing out the fact that someone is justifiably getting indignant over what was undeniably an atrocious act (the puppy incident).
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it's putting things like this in perspective and realizing what is important. Human life, which every day is being taken for frivolous reasons or a dog gets tossed down a cliff.
my view is that human life is worth more than any animals life. That isn't to say we human beings should be out killing animals until it goes out of style, no not at all. These reactions to a dog being tossed is disturbing.
How many people do you think emailed CNN, the Marines, etc over this incident who couldn't be bothered to express outrage over innocent human beings being killed? Many, I'll bet. Fuccking TV-fed, American-idol-watching, suburban nitwits with their priorities straight. >:(
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perhaps you read that wrong
So you would save your dogs over a 4 year old child?
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sure anyone can be sympathetic to the situation, you are free to have those feelings.
The death of an animal no matter how it dies is never as tragic when a human being dies. So whether or not we make comparisons on what is worse or better for anyone. The death of an animal is no big deal. It's a bloody animal!
it's human to mourn the death of an animal. It's human to have emotions. There has to come a point where things like this are put into perspective. Especially the location of the soldier and why he is in Iraq where people are losing their lives and suffering because of this war.
What I think is disturbing is when we come to the point that we make pets or farm animals etc. as equal to humans. As one of our own as they say.
Wrong. Everything has a value only in a context. You might treasure a possession of yours that I don't give a shit about. So when that thing breaks, I'm not going to feel anything unlike you who is going to feel a lot of pain. In the same way, in your scale of evaluation, a person's life has a lot of value compared to an animal's life that has no value. In the case of someone like ~Flower~, the animal has an equal value, meaning she'd be just as indignant if the guy were throwing a baby or a kid over the cliff.
There are tons of lonely people and even normal people to whom their pets matter as much as a family member does. While to others, the same animals are actually repulsive. One group's preference or scale of value doesn't make the other group's opposing value true or false - every person decides what is important and what is not, what is worthy of love and what is not and so on.
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So you would save your dogs over a 4 year old child?
lets see....my dog....vs....unknown 4 year old child?
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The amount of suffering in the world in every form is way beyond the scope or capacity of one person or even an entire nation to address man, let alone try to put an end to it. You shouldn't let that lead you into feeling guilty of having a good life yourself - if you feel so strongly, do what you can to help improve the situation. Don't try to instill guilt into others by pointing out the existence of all the bad stuff. We didn't create any of the bad stuff.
Just about everyone feels helpless and indignant when they see suffering in areas of the world that are beyond their reach or even in their own backyard where the situation is beyond their control. Can you stop that from living your life? If it does, then go help those people out or kill yourself cause you are miserable - don't take a moral stance and try and act all superior by pointing out the fact that someone is justifiably getting indignant over what was undeniably an atrocious act (the puppy incident).
People did. They did when they elected Bush and Cheney and helped create the mess we are in now. That's the reality. People shouldn't just be standing by whilst this crap goes on. The USA is broken but American Idol is on so let's not worry about it.
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That's not the point. I know you like dogs.
I have a question for you.
If you were given a choice between choosing to save your own dogs vs. one 4 year old human child, which would you do?
I'd save the 4 year old.
What does that have to do with blatant cruelty?
Was someone's life at stake and that soldier had to do that?
No, so it was WRONG. It was wrong no matter if people are starving 3000 miles away. WRONG is WRONG.
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Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.
I gotta agree with you here ;)
During the Vietnam war, innocent rice farmers were used as target practice for bored marines....and this video is causing a stir?! ::)
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How many people do you think emailed CNN, the Marines, etc over this incident who couldn't be bothered to express outrage over innocent human beings being killed? Many, I'll bet. Fuccking TV-fed, American-idol-watching, suburban nitwits with their priorities straight. >:(
we are living in Amerika, Amerika ist Wunderbar
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lets see....my dog....vs....unknown 4 year old child?
Glad to know there are people like you out there. ::)
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What I think is disturbing is when we come to the point that we make pets or farm animals etc. as equal to humans. As one of our own as they say.
That is Animal Rights vs Animal Welfare.
I am for Animal WELFARE. The decent and humane treatment of animals.
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I gotta agree with you here ;)
During the Vietnam war, innocent rice farmers were used as target practice for bored marines....and this video is causing a stir?! ::)
& How do you believe those fine adjusted Marines did when they returned to live in Society?
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Glad to know there are people like you out there. ::)
any time
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we are living in Amerika, Amerika ist Wunderbar
Nein, es ist ein verlogenes Scheissloch, das staendig neue Propaganda herauskotzt.
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Nein, es ist ein verlogenes Scheissloch, das staendig neue Propaganda herauskotzt.
hey it's Rammstein...I bought their CD when I heard them kids that shot up that school in Columbine listened to them alot. :D
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& How do you believe those fine adjusted Marines did when they returned to live in Society?
So instead of this cruel act, we're now debating the psyche of the soldier???
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People did. They did when they elected Bush and Cheney and helped create the mess we are in now. That's the reality. People shouldn't just be standing by whilst this crap goes on. The USA is broken but American Idol is on so let's not worry about it.
Dude, shit happens all day every day in every corner of the world. You can't let that stop you from living your life. If you are an asshole who made people suffer by pushing a button or executing a military order, then fine, feel guilty or rot in Hell. Don't tell others who had nothing to do with causing all the suffering that they should be feeling guilty of having a good life or being able to enjoy things that civilization can offer at it's best. There's always going to be pain and suffering somewhere, somehow to some extent. If you keep mourning over it all the time, then you are not going to make it.
What are you saying? That we should be allowed to smile or enjoy a night out only if every person in every part of the world is perfectly happy? Get real ::)
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During the Vietnam war, innocent rice farmers were used as target practice for bored marines....and this video is causing a stir?! ::)
So you think it'd be better if this was considered just another day at the office?
Maybe that's why the world is so fucked up, because people just say oh well.
Maybe some people are more compassionate and are able to care about more than one cause or issue at a time.
Maybe if more people could do that it would help stop the fuckeduppideness of the world.
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So instead of this cruel act, we're now debating the psyche of the soldier???
I don't think it's up for debate, he's messed in the head
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Dude, shit happens all day every day in every corner of the world. You can't let that stop you from living your life. If you are an asshole who made people suffer by pushing a button or executing a military order, then fine, feel guilty or rot in Hell. Don't tell others who had nothing to do with causing all the suffering that they should be feeling guilty of having a good life or being able to enjoy things that civilization can offer at it's best. There's always going to be pain and suffering somewhere, somehow to some extent. If you keep mourning over it all the time, then you are not going to make it.
What are you saying? That we should be allowed to smile or enjoy a night out only if every person in every part of the world is perfectly happy? Get real ::)
You are turning this into something that is is clearly not. I never said don't enjoy your life. I am not mourning over it all the time. I spend too much time trying to pay the bills and get my money together and stare at Dennis Wolf's most muscular. I didn't say they should feel gulity I said they should get their priorities straight. Big Difference.
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So instead of this cruel act, we're now debating the psyche of the soldier???
worse....what becomes of them when you have animal killers & killers of innocent people return to society
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So you think it'd be better if this was considered just another day at the office?
Maybe that's why the world is so fucked up, because people just say oh well.
Maybe some people are more compassionate and are able to care about more than one cause or issue at a time.
Maybe if more people could do that it would help stop the fuckeduppideness of the world.
I love compounds! :D :)
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worse....what becomes of them when you have animal killers & killers of innocent people return to society
Ahhh, so you've seen First Blood also? ::)
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You are turning this into something that is is clearly not. I never said don't enjoy your life. I am not mourning over it all the time. I spend too much time trying to pay the bills and get my money together and stare at Dennis Wolf's most muscular. I didn't say they should feel gulity I said they should get their priorities straight. Big Difference.
and you have your priorities straight by being concerned with other people's priorities
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Ahhh, so you've seen First Blood also? ::)
Rambo didn't kill innocent civilians
or puppies
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So you think it'd be better if this was considered just another day at the office?
Maybe that's why the world is so fucked up, because people just say oh well.
Maybe some people are more compassionate and are able to care about more than one cause or issue at a time.
Maybe if more people could do that it would help stop the fuckeduppideness of the world.
Well, what exactly do you think these kids are out there to do? Talk politics??? They're there to kill...so yeah, for them, death IS just another day at the office.
I agree about people becoming apathetic, which only allows things like this to continue. My only point is, there are/were MANY other opportunities to make noise about this long before this video came out.
Yes...the world is f@@@@ up....that's when the "black boots" come in to clean it up...SEMPER FI!
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Rambo didn't kill innocent civilians
or puppies
Sure he did. Besides, what do you care? He was Army, not USMC.
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worse....what becomes of them when you have animal killers & killers of innocent people return to society
They didn't go to boot camp and months of intense training for "returning back to society" :-\
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You are turning this into something that is is clearly not. I never said don't enjoy your life. I am not mourning over it all the time. I spend too much time trying to pay the bills and get my money together and stare at Dennis Wolf's most muscular. I didn't say they should feel gulity I said they should get their priorities straight. Big Difference.
Their priorities is not for you to rectify or help improve mate. I'll be honest with you - I don't give a shit about a lot of the bad stuff in the world cause I've been through some incredibly traumatic phases of life myself. Do I like the fact that there is so much suffering in the world and / or that I can't do much about it at present? Absolutely not. So do I then use that as an excuse to try and stop others from expressing indignation at a cold blooded act of atrocity that in the grand scheme of things doesn't measure up to the worst out there? Again, not at all.
You keep saying that people shouldn't get so worked up because there is worse stuff happening elsewhere to people. I'm just saying that the worse stuff is always happening and therefore, you should just carry on with your life and do what you can to help, because you can't let the worse stuff make you turn a blind eye towards something that's less insignificant.
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They didn't go to boot camp and months of intense training for "returning back to society" :-\
they didn't go to bootcamp to learn how to kill innocent farmers & civilans
dumbass
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they didn't go to bootcamp to learn how to kill innocent farmers & civilans
dumbass
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I saw that comeback a mile away... ::)
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Wrong. Everything has a value only in a context. You might treasure a possession of yours that I don't give a shit about. So when that thing breaks, I'm not going to feel anything unlike you who is going to feel a lot of pain. In the same way, in your scale of evaluation, a person's life has a lot of value compared to an animal's life that has no value. In the case of someone like ~Flower~, the animal has an equal value, meaning she'd be just as indignant if the guy were throwing a baby or a kid over the cliff.
There are tons of lonely people and even normal people to whom their pets matter as much as a family member does. While to others, the same animals are actually repulsive. One group's preference or scale of value doesn't make the other group's opposing value true or false - every person decides what is important and what is not, what is worthy of love and what is not and so on.
It isn't necessarily what value a human has compared to an animal. There are more valuable animals than people sometimes and useless people. Humans are still above them.
At the end of the day it's an animal and we are humans. There is a difference.
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dogs are worthless nuscances that need to be exterminated.
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dogs are worthless nuscances that need to be exterminated.
;D
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you don't get either you sick asshole. not only is it a deplorable act but it does not represent the high standards of the marines and how we should represent ourselves as compasionate human beings. are you related to michael vick?
that puppy didn't do a thing to that prick!!
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Cant believe some people here can actually justify that behaviour ::)
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That poor doggy wasn't hiding weapons of mass destruction :'(
He didn't deserve to die >:(
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Here we are 5 years into the war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, still more starved to death due to American sanctions and miscellaneous deaths due to 10 years of bombing prior to invasion and there is huge outrage because a puppy was killed. It is sad yes, but can you compare that to all the chaos and mayhem that the American invasion has caused to human beings? Loss of life, injuries, mental and physical, not to mention to American soldiers and only after a puppy is chucked off a cliff ( admittedly, it was cute) are people up in arms. Something is seriously messed up here. People need to get their priorities straight.
yes, because lord knows us wacky liberals haven't been howling for, oh, the past five years about the massive injustices concerning the iraq invasion. ::)
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I was up last night & it was on the News.
The Marine Corps is doing an investigation & already has said that if the puppy was alive or dead....the course of action will be the same.
They just want to make sure it's 'authentic' (as being a real marine in the situation portrayed) before they jump the shark.
This is not the image the Marine Corps wants to be known for. They will make an example out of this kid I'm sure.
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I was thinking the same thing when I read the thread, but didn't reply at the time, figuring everyone would dismiss it as though I'm a terrorist sympathizer :)
No disrespect to the cute puppy, but was a thread ever started here at the Haditha massacre of innocent Iraqis by US Marines? Or many of the other similar atrocities?
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Would the American solider do the same thing if he was on his homeland, probably not. So why does do it elsewhere, IE: MICHAEL (D)VICK.. Just because he is in the war doesn't give him a licence to do something senseless. He must get his rocks off by praying on the innocent instead of focusing on his mission. Typical dickhead with no conscious or morals regardless of what his circumstances are.
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The puppy was innocent, hell given the opportunity it could probably blend into our culture and become an American puppy. The same can not be said for Iraqis, thats why no one really cares that they are being killed.
hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The puppy was already dead, are you guys blind?
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no one is saying what this marine did was honourable. That is really beside the point of this story.
The story here is people's reaction to the dog, all the while people are getting killed in the region.
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GOD BLESS THE USMC!!! You gotta problem with that, leave!
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no one is saying what this marine did was honourable. That is really beside the point of this story.
The story here is people's reaction to the dog, all the while people are getting killed in the region.
I think most are forgetting the main thing....
Whether this dog was alive or dead....this is not an image how the the Marine Corps wants to be represented by.
If it was a child, adult, cat, or dog....this is not a thing a Marine does....plain & simple.
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Marines Disciplined for Tossing Puppy
By AUDREY McAVOY,AP
Posted: 2008-06-12 10:46:10
Filed Under: Nation News
HONOLULU (June 12) -- The Marine Corps said Wednesday it was expelling one Marine and disciplining another for their roles in a video showing a Marine throwing a puppy off a cliff while on patrol in Iraq.
The 17-second video posted on YouTube drew sharp condemnation from animal rights groups when it came to light in March.
The clip shows two Marines joking before one hurls the puppy into a rocky gully. A yelping sound is heard as it flips through the air.
"That's mean. That's mean, Motari," an off-camera Marine is heard telling the Marine who tossed the black and white dog. The off-camera Marine snickered slightly afterward.
Lance Cpl. David Motari, assigned to the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment at Kaneohe Bay, is "being processed for separation" from the Marine Corps, the Marine Corps said in a news release. He also received unspecified "non-judicial punishment."
The Marine Corps didn't say what role Motari played in the clip.
The video was viewed tens of thousands of times before YouTube took it down because of a violation of the site's terms of use.
"The actions seen in the Internet video are contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine and will not be tolerated," Marine Corps Base Hawaii said in a news release. "The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties with honor and compassion that makes American people proud."
The second Marine, Sgt. Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion, also received unspecified "non-judicial" punishment.
Encarnacion is assigned to the Weapons and Field Training Battalion, Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego.
First Lt. Binford Strickland, a Marine Corps Base Hawaii spokesman, said the service may not reveal what roles the two men played in the video because that was part of the investigation. He said releasing such information would violate the Privacy Act.
Strickland declined to provide details about the disciplinary measures taken against the men for the same reason.
Like I said...the Marine Corps is not...& will not toleate this type of behavior. I didn't serve 10 years in the Corps & didn't see this shit coming.
This is very "un becoming" of a Marine
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blend into our culture and become an American puppy.
so u wanna change a culture thats thousands of yrs old and make em american...
lmao ::)
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so u wanna change a culture thats thousands of yrs old and make em american...
lmao ::)
Why come here if you have no plans to assimilate?
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People are crazed murders and psychopaths. It is natural for us to do atrocious things to others over differences we may have. Some do it for fun. Some don't like the other's way of life, culture, religion, ethnicity, etc.... Why feel upset over what humans naturally do? The majority of people are mean-spirited and would screw over the next person if it would benefit them in some way. Personally, I don't give a fuck anymore over what happens to anybody, so long as it isn't me or anyone close to me. I've seen too much suffering(through my deployments and occupation) that is has numbed me.