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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: stuntmovie on March 17, 2008, 01:41:45 PM
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A few of you might be interested in entering this contest. Or maybe just seeing some old time and "not so old time" photos of bodybuilders who used to compete and win the major titles of those days and their associates.
I'll post some shots and see it anyone cares to take a guess as to whom they see in the photos. First to post the correct answer/answers will receive a point for his/her efforts and in a month or two the winner will receive some DVD's that are taking up room on my shelf and a few PS computer games as well ... all used stuff but in prime condition.
No problem if no one wants to participate, but you might be interested in how the tops guys looked many years ago.
Here's one to start this off.
This one is way too easy if you look close enough, so:
1. Name him.
2. Name her.
3. .... and name the movie.
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Hmmm. COuld that be Steeve Reeves or as your photo title says sreeves.jpg
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The her is Debbie Reynolds and the movie is Athena.
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Yea, Mon, but I just learned how to change the photo names after posting it. But I wanted to make that first one as easy as possible anyway.
You only got 1/3 of the answer though, so no points to ya.
Doc, to make it official, name him too!
Here's the next one ..... I knew him back in the 60's.
1. Name him.
2. Name the highest BB contest he won back then.
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:o
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GOt no idea who Badass is, Wis.
Here's another from the olden days .....
1. Name him.
2. Name the bodypart he is training.
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Here's a tough one for the BB Know It All experts....
Name all three.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=206155.0;attach=240632;image)
To easy...
Lee Priest
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'You're my boy, Blue.' :'( :'( :'(
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'You're my boy, Blue.' :'( :'( :'(
Just ring the fuckin bell you pansy!!!!!!!!
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Don Peters-Mr.Western America
Jim Haislop-Lats/Traps
Reg Lewis/Reeves/Zabo
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Good job, Wes, but you are wrong on the "Tuff One" shot. The guy in the middle is NOT Reeves.
Here's a tough one to figure out unless you knew the spot way back when ....
Name him.
Naming the major contest he won would be too tough.
Wisconsin, the old guy (Blue) whose photo you posted above bears a striking resemblance to Gypsy Boots in his later years.
Extra point to anyone who can name the protein product that Gypsy manufactured back in the 50's. I don't think anyone will be able to answer this one.
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Not sure Stunt but is his first name Steve?
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Good job, Wes, but you are wrong on the "Tuff One" shot. The guy in the middle is NOT Reeves.
Here's a tough one to figure out unless you knew the spot way back when ....
Name him.
Naming the major contest he won would be too tough.
Wisconsin, the old guy (Blue) whose photo you posted above bears a striking resemblance to Gypsy Boots in his later years.
Extra point to anyone who can name the protein product that Gypsy manufactured back in the 50's. I don't think anyone will be able to answer this one.
Red Lerille
Protein product was combo with carrots and bananas?
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Some of these pictures are gayer than Pink Slippers.
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the physique of Reg Lewis bears a striking resembelence to that of Jay Cutler
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I'll be filling in for the great Mars
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The her is Debbie Reynolds and the movie is Athena.
Kudos to you dr. chimps!
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Hmmm. COuld that be Steeve Reeves or as your photo title says sreeves.jpg
;D
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I'll be filling in for the great Mars
:o Woah! Check that beaver out! :-*Niceeeeee!!! LOL!
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To stuntmovie, and dr.chimps:
As a movie buff, this is a cool post! I've seen Athena several times and I thinks it's one of the strangest mainstream movies ever made. If anyone starts to watch it, they should surely stay through till the end to see the 'Mr. Universe' contest.
This actually brings up an interesting topic, one which I bet stuntmovie, you'd be really good at: naming obscure movies that had well known bodybuilders in them. I'll certainly give you one title: Don't Make Waves which starred Tony Curtis and had Dave Draper in it.
Any other movies I should know about?
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To stuntmovie, and dr.chimps:
As a movie buff, this is a cool post! I've seen Athena several times and I thinks it's one of the strangest mainstream movies ever made. If anyone starts to watch it, they should surely stay through till the end to see the 'Mr. Universe' contest.
This actually brings up an interesting topic, one which I bet stuntmovie, you'd be really good at: naming obscure movies that had well known bodybuilders in them. I'll certainly give you one title: Don't Make Waves which starred Tony Curtis and had Dave Draper in it.
Any other movies I should know about?
Hmm. There are lots. BBers were and are probably still seen as 'oddities' and usually populate the movies as such. 'Don't make waves' is a good example. It is truly 'odd,' but unlike most California/surf movies is actually really good in it's weirdness; looking at the castlist will make one do a double-take. One of the earliest actors would be Nat Pendleton, who is more accurately a wrestler, who used his physique in the twenties and on in flicks with the Marx Bros and with William Powell in The Great Ziegfeld as Eugene Sandow. Unlike others, he really had the chops. BBers, like comedians, because of their nature are usually best used as supporting roles.
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I'll be filling in for the great Mars
thats one sexy pussy youve got there, figgs
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I'll be filling in for the great Mars
Much gratitude :)
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No, Wes! His first name is not "Steve".
Reps, I'm sure that there must be a website naming all the obscure movies that had well known bodybuilders in them, but in order to save some time and do as little searching as possible, I'll name a few off the top of my head with the help of IMDB.
Not too many fans know that Steve Reeve's appeared in his first Hollywood production - Jail Bait.
Here's some info on that obscure flick ..... JAIL BAIT is a grimy drama about criminals sleazing around a crummy little town, by the acknowledged king of bad cinema, Ed Wood. In what was conceived as his homage to the TV series DRAGNET and the film noir of the 1930s and 1940s, Wood developed this vehicle for stars Steve Reeves and Delores Fuller, his wife. The story is about a young criminal who kills a cop and has plastic surgery to alter his face. The film's title, however, is misleading; the only mention of "jail bait" in the film is made in reference to a gun!
Steve played the part of a "side-kick" detective in that one. See poster below. It's still available on DVD but it's one of the worst movies of all time.
Athena (MGM 1954) is only available on tape, but Steve was in top shape for that movie - even more-so than any of his Herc pics.
Another obscure but enjoyable movie is "L'il Abner" with Peter Palmer playing the part of Abner and Leslie Parrish as Daisy Mae.
That movie also included a number of bodybuilders (only three got credit on IMDB), the most famous of whom include:
Gordon Mitchell - Gordon Mitchell was one of those perfectly developed bodybuilders who jumped on the Steve Reeves bandwagon and hightailed it to Italy to seek movie stardom as a Herculean strongman. Born in Denver, Colorado, but raised in Inglewood, California, Mitchell served in WWII and at one point became a prisoner of war. After the war he went to college and became a high school teacher, albeit an imposing one, what with his incredible physique. He eventually became part of the "Muscle Beach" crowd and flexed his way into the entertainment field as part of Mae West's musclebound revues, where he toured everywhere from Las Vegas to the Latin Quarter with other "abs"normal actor wannabes such as Mickey Hargitay, Brad Harris and Reg Lewis. Mitchell took a fancy to show biz and appeared as posing beefcake in such films as The Ten Commandments (1956) and Li'l Abner (1959), which, of course, did little to advance his acting career. In 1961, after Reeves' Fatiche di Ercole, Le (1958) (US title: "Hercules") proved a phenomenal hit and revived the "muscleman" genre, the non-Italian-speaking Mitchell headed off to Europe and began appearing in the same type of badly dubbed sandal-and-spear epics. Adept at displaying both heroics and villainy, he developed his own core of fans, but when the fad wore off around 1965, Mitchell--unlike many of his colleagues in that field who just dropped out of sight--stayed on and appeared in over 100 more films, many of them in the "spaghetti western" genre, staying true to the country that made him a star. He passed away in 2003.
Brad Harris - Born in St. Anthony, a small town in eastern Idaho, Bradford Harris attended UCLA in the early 1950s where he played fullback on the football team while studying economics. His studies may have been intended as the groundwork for a career in his family's banking interests but Harris instead drifted into the fringes of Los Angeles' movie business where he began to do stunt work. In the late 1950s he traveled to Europe as the stunt co-ordinator for a German-Italian co-production. Soon he found himself working as a second-unit director and that led to a starring role in 1960's "Goliath Against the Giants." Harris's good looks and muscular build kept him in demand during the era of "sword and sandal" movies and when this fad began to fade, he moved into "spaghetti westerns" and various kinds of action movies with an emphasis on spy thrillers. In 1967, he married actress Olinka Berova.
The most obscure bodybuilding flick of all time has got to be "Beauty and the Beach". It played as a second feature to Elvis' "Kissin Cousins" back in 1964 in Hollywood. More info on that one to follow if there is any interest. It was a fairly good flick about a young girl arriving in Hollywood to become a star and meeting and hooking up with a bodybuilder.
I knew Dave while he was making "Don't Make Waves". He did a good job in that movie. I forget the actual story he told me but that house that slid down the hillside actually slid down that hillside either before the making of that film or shortly thereafter. Reg Lewis and Chet Yorton were also in that one. I believe that Dave met Sharon Tate during the filming of that production and I do know that he was devastated upon her death.
Here's that poster I promised
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One of the top amateurs of the 70's. Name him .......
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The much younger version of one of the top pros of all time .......
Name him.
(This one is too easy!)
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One of the top amateurs of the 70's. Name him .......
Richard Baldwin
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The much younger version of one of the top pros of all time .......
Name him.
Too easy. Larry Scott
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Don`t forget the movie "Muscle Beach Party" with Don Rickles,Draper,Scott,and Yorton............among others.
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The much younger version of one of the top pros of all time .......
Name him.
(This one is too easy!)
Ronnie Coleman?!!?! ???
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BOOM!
(http://www.dixondesign.com/pictorials/MuscleClub.jpg)
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Correct, Chem! - A young Larry Scott. Here's one of his better bicep shots.
Muscle Beach Party and a few others too. That one was kind of an embarrassment to the BB world though. Rickles was mis-cast as a bodybuilding coach. I guess that was supposed to add to the humor of it all.
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Don`t forget the movie "Muscle Beach Party" with Don Rickles,Draper,Scott,and Yorton............among others.
Not very good, but it does have Dick Dale, Stevie Wonder and Peter Lorre in it. There's one beach movie that even has Buster Keaton in it. Can't remember the title of that one. Maybe 'How to Stuff a Wild Bikini.'
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Chemist, correct with Richard Baldwin.
Chimps, yea, that was Buster Keaton in "How to Stuff a WIld Bikini" playing the part of "Bwana". That was made in 1965 and he made five more films after that before passing away from lung cancer in 1966 at the age of 71. Worked on over 146 films since 1917.
One hell of a long career in the movie business.
Since we're talking about "old timers" and BB's, name these three? .....
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Reeves, unsure of her, but the guy on the right looks a tad bit like Jim Manion(although I know its not him :))
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Way off base, Moose!
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Chemist, correct with Richard Baldwin.
Chimps, yea, that was Buster Keaton in "How to Stuff a WIld Bikini" playing the part of "Bwana". That was made in 1965 and he made five more films after that before passing away from lung cancer in 1966 at the age of 71. Worked on over 146 films since 1917.
One hell of a long career in the movie business.
Since we're talking about "old timers" and BB's, name these three? .....
That's Steve Reeves and George and Gracie.
/'say good night, Gracie'.... :)
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Way off base, Moose!
:)
how about Gypsy's protein...was it a combo of bananas and carrots?
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how about Gypsy's protein...was it a combo of bananas and carrots?......
Moose, to be honest with ya, I don't know what Gypsy's stuff was made of but I can tell you now that it was in the form of small wafers wrapped somewhat similar to "Life Savers" and tasted like crap.
As far as I know, those little wafers were the first "protein" supplements offered on the market outside of the very limited number of Weider products. I do recall ordering some of Weider's gain weight product in liquid form back then and it tasted almost identical to Geritol.
It appears that the snake oil salesmen of the wild wild west have crossed the praries and still remain with us today.
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Not very good, but it does have Dick Dale, Stevie Wonder and Peter Lorre in it. There's one beach movie that even has Buster Keaton in it. Can't remember the title of that one. Maybe 'How to Stuff a Wild Bikini.'
You're right, Muscle Beach Party is not very good. Sadly, of all those "Beach Party" movies, Muscle Beach Party is one of the worst. Some of them, especially the original, are surprisingly entertaining.
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What was the name of that first surfing movie made by one of the Hollywood studios back in the late 50's? That movie packed them in for a couple of months every night when it played in San Francisco.... I think it was called "Giget" something. Terrible movie but it was all about surfing and filled the house every night. Surfing in California was relatively new back then and the only spot to catch a wave in the San Francisco area was off Seal Rock under the Cliff House.
Following shot - Good friend way back when..... Name him.
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Last photo before signing off.
This is an old shot so it may be a tough one to ID, but his name is well known by all, even if you don't follow the ins and outs of the BB world.
Who is this? .....
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What was the name of that first surfing movie made by one of the Hollywood studios back in the late 50's? That movie packed them in for a couple of months every night when it played in San Francisco.... I think it was called "Giget" something. Terrible movie but it was all about surfing and filled the house every night. Surfing in California was relatively new back then and the only spot to catch a wave in the San Francisco area was off Seal Rock under the Cliff House.
Following shot - Good friend way back when..... Name him.
Bill Grant. Still looks good in recents shots over 60 years of age.
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Last photo before signing off.
This is an old shot so it may be a tough one to ID, but his name is well known by all, even if you don't follow the ins and outs of the BB world.
Who is this? .....
Lex Barker?
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No, Wes! His first name is not "Steve".
Reps, I'm sure that there must be a website naming all the obscure movies that had well known bodybuilders in them, but in order to save some time and do as little searching as possible, I'll name a few off the top of my head with the help of IMDB.
Not too many fans know that Steve Reeve's appeared in his first Hollywood production - Jail Bait.
Here's some info on that obscure flick ..... JAIL BAIT is a grimy drama about criminals sleazing around a crummy little town, by the acknowledged king of bad cinema, Ed Wood. In what was conceived as his homage to the TV series DRAGNET and the film noir of the 1930s and 1940s, Wood developed this vehicle for stars Steve Reeves and Delores Fuller, his wife. The story is about a young criminal who kills a cop and has plastic surgery to alter his face. The film's title, however, is misleading; the only mention of "jail bait" in the film is made in reference to a gun!
Steve played the part of a "side-kick" detective in that one. See poster below. It's still available on DVD but it's one of the worst movies of all time.
Athena (MGM 1954) is only available on tape, but Steve was in top shape for that movie - even more-so than any of his Herc pics.
Another obscure but enjoyable movie is "L'il Abner" with Peter Palmer playing the part of Abner and Leslie Parrish as Daisy Mae.
That movie also included a number of bodybuilders (only three got credit on IMDB), the most famous of whom include:
Gordon Mitchell - Gordon Mitchell was one of those perfectly developed bodybuilders who jumped on the Steve Reeves bandwagon and hightailed it to Italy to seek movie stardom as a Herculean strongman. Born in Denver, Colorado, but raised in Inglewood, California, Mitchell served in WWII and at one point became a prisoner of war. After the war he went to college and became a high school teacher, albeit an imposing one, what with his incredible physique. He eventually became part of the "Muscle Beach" crowd and flexed his way into the entertainment field as part of Mae West's musclebound revues, where he toured everywhere from Las Vegas to the Latin Quarter with other "abs"normal actor wannabes such as Mickey Hargitay, Brad Harris and Reg Lewis. Mitchell took a fancy to show biz and appeared as posing beefcake in such films as The Ten Commandments (1956) and Li'l Abner (1959), which, of course, did little to advance his acting career. In 1961, after Reeves' Fatiche di Ercole, Le (1958) (US title: "Hercules") proved a phenomenal hit and revived the "muscleman" genre, the non-Italian-speaking Mitchell headed off to Europe and began appearing in the same type of badly dubbed sandal-and-spear epics. Adept at displaying both heroics and villainy, he developed his own core of fans, but when the fad wore off around 1965, Mitchell--unlike many of his colleagues in that field who just dropped out of sight--stayed on and appeared in over 100 more films, many of them in the "spaghetti western" genre, staying true to the country that made him a star. He passed away in 2003.
Brad Harris - Born in St. Anthony, a small town in eastern Idaho, Bradford Harris attended UCLA in the early 1950s where he played fullback on the football team while studying economics. His studies may have been intended as the groundwork for a career in his family's banking interests but Harris instead drifted into the fringes of Los Angeles' movie business where he began to do stunt work. In the late 1950s he traveled to Europe as the stunt co-ordinator for a German-Italian co-production. Soon he found himself working as a second-unit director and that led to a starring role in 1960's "Goliath Against the Giants." Harris's good looks and muscular build kept him in demand during the era of "sword and sandal" movies and when this fad began to fade, he moved into "spaghetti westerns" and various kinds of action movies with an emphasis on spy thrillers. In 1967, he married actress Olinka Berova.
The most obscure bodybuilding flick of all time has got to be "Beauty and the Beach". It played as a second feature to Elvis' "Kissin Cousins" back in 1964 in Hollywood. More info on that one to follow if there is any interest. It was a fairly good flick about a young girl arriving in Hollywood to become a star and meeting and hooking up with a bodybuilder.
I knew Dave while he was making "Don't Make Waves". He did a good job in that movie. I forget the actual story he told me but that house that slid down the hillside actually slid down that hillside either before the making of that film or shortly thereafter. Reg Lewis and Chet Yorton were also in that one. I believe that Dave met Sharon Tate during the filming of that production and I do know that he was devastated upon her death.
Here's that poster I promised
I've actually never seen Jail Bait, but surely would like to. I have to confess I've never been able to sit all the way through Ed Wood's Plan 9 From Outer Space, I think it's so terrible. I have sat all the way through Glen or Glenda, a very stange movie. Really strange.
I saw L'il Abner once, don't remember it very well.
About the sword and sandle guys, from the late 50's until the mid-60's, there were around 150 Hercules movies made. Most were made in Europe, and only a handful ever got to the U.S.
What most people don't know about Steve Reeves is that when Sergio Leone started to make A Fistful of Dollars in the mid-60's, he wanted the biggest movie star he could get to play the lead. And the biggest star in Italy at the time was Reeves. So, Leone offered him the part. Reeves thought it was a ridiculous idea that an Italian would make an American western, so he turned the part down. Leone then offered the part to a little-known TV western actor, Clint Eastwood. And as they say, the rest is history.
Interesting comment about Draper - I completely agree, he was good in Don't Make Waves. Made me wonder why he didn't make more movies.
WHAT THE F@#% IS Beauty and the Beach???????????????? I've never heard of this movie, couldn't find it on IMDB, or on a simple Google search. PLEASE, tell me more!
And on the subject of obscurity, in the late 80's there was some kind of bodybuilding movie made. I don't recall the title, and I don't think it was ever theatrically released. Do you, or anyone, know anything about it?
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Last photo before signing off.
This is an old shot so it may be a tough one to ID, but his name is well known by all, even if you don't follow the ins and outs of the BB world.
Who is this? .....
Joe Gold
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Bob's right! That is joe Gold.
"Jail Bait" is available on DVD but it is even worse than "Plan 9".
Would Reeves have done as well as Clint Eastwood if he had taken his part in "A Fistfull of Dollars"?
L'il Abner was a good musical in its day and is available on DVD. Here's a photo of Abner and Daisy that they used to promote that picture. It also included Stubby Kaye and an uncredited Jerry Lewis. Peter Palmer who played the role of Abner fit that part damn well unlike the Superhero actors that are used today.
The L'il Abner bodybuilder scene contained a song called "Put Em Back the Way They Was" after they drank some Mammy Yokum "steroid potion" which worked immediately. The adverse side-effect was that they no longer had any interest in their girlfriends so the ladies all joined together in an effort to "Put Em Back the Way They Was".
A few of the guys who played the bodybuilding parts didn't get screen credit, but you old timers might recognize them if you lived in the L.A. area back then.
As for Dave, I don't know why he didn't stay in the movie business but he did carry on as a Gladiator introducing Herc type movies on a weekly TV show. If he sees this, he might tell us why.
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Here's a tough one for the younger fans.......
Chick will probably answer this one correctly first ....
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Comic book fans will get this one immediately ....
Anyone got the history of this "company", who owns it now, and how much advertising dollars have been spent since its inception?
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In an attempt to be fair to one and all ..... Name this person ......
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And also this person .......
Don't look too closely or you'll cheat and get the answer.
This one submitted on the Honor System!
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Eugene Sandow, Charles Atlas, Joe Weider, Jeff Everson. pretty easy.
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YOU is fast, Chem. And you am correct on all four counts too!
I gotta make this tuffer!
Here's a good friend many years back..... Anyone know where he is today?
Name him .....
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And probably the toughest guess of all.
Name him and the gym he trained at ......
Good luck on this one.
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Here's a tough one for the younger fans.......
Chick will probably answer this one correctly first ....
Oh...come on Bill....these are patheticly easy. I'll let the others guess.
Any BB fan worth their weight in protein powder can guess these...should be a prerequisite to even log onto this site!
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OK, Chick, I'll throw some on here in an attempt to stump ya, but I know it's gonna be a tuff assignment.
Here's a start. Name the short guy.
And the store where Steve got his suit!
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No one should be able to guess these two ....
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OK, Chick, I'll throw some on here in an attempt to stump ya, but I know it's gonna be a tuff assignment.
Here's a start. Name the short guy.
And the store where Steve got his suit!
I'm really guessing here, but the shorter fellow looks a bit like George Raft. Sorry, that's all I got.
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Joe Nazzario (Florida)
John Kemper (Diamond Gym)
Perhaps Bob Gallucci...don't know the shortie on that :)
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OK, Chick, I'll throw some on here in an attempt to stump ya, but I know it's gonna be a tuff assignment.
Here's a start. Name the short guy.
And the store where Steve got his suit!
I think the short guy is Sig Klein.
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Thanks, Doc, but that's not George Raft. (See Chem, below)
Moose, WRONG on Kemper but RIGHT on Nazzario and that ain't Bob Gulucci.
Chem, You are RIGHT! That is Sigmund Klein, BUT where the hell did Reeves get that suit? Men's jackets did include shoulder pads back then. Not just Steve's.
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Ok..Here's some fairly tough ones. First up is a guy from the early 80's. Didn't win a lot of big titles but he had good proportions and the type of physique most people would admire. Who is he
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Next one is a guy from the late 70's and 80's. Competed in the AAU Mr. America and was considered very vascular for his era. Who is he?
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Last one here. Should be pretty tough to guess. He competed in late 70's and swore up and down he was all natural. As far as I know he was. Not a big guy but was shredded all year round. Anyone know who this guy is?
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Last one here. Should be pretty tough to guess. He competed in late 70's and swore up and down he was all natural. As far as I know he was. Not a big guy but was shredded all year round. Anyone know who this guy is?
Anibal Lopez. Got chastised at one of the pro shows bc he yelled out "no drugs" to the crowd at the end of his routine.
"He who screams loudest is guilty"
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Ok..Here's some fairly tough ones. First up is a guy from the early 80's. Didn't win a lot of big titles but he had good proportions and the type of physique most people would admire. Who is he
Frank Calta...owns a chain of gyms in Florida...originally from Pennsylvania
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Next one is a guy from the late 70's and 80's. Competed in the AAU Mr. America and was considered very vascular for his era. Who is he?
Clint Beyerle, M.D.....Mr. Western America
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Thanks, Doc, but that's not George Raft. (See Chem, below)
Moose, WRONG on Kemper but RIGHT on Nazzario and that ain't Bob Gulucci.
Chem, You are RIGHT! That is Sigmund Klein, BUT where the hell did Reeves get that suit? Men's jackets did include shoulder pads back then. Not just Steve's.
Didn't think it was really Galucci...but that ain't Kemper??? wow!@
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Anibal Lopez. Got chastised at one of the pro shows bc he yelled out "no drugs" to the crowd at the end of his routine.
"He who screams loudest is guilty"
You're good. You got all of them. I think I was at the contest Anibal Lopez yelled, "No drugs". I think it was the 1980 IFBB Miami Grand Prix.
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yeah...it was one of the Grand Prix shows...I believe he came in second to last, and Tommy Aybar was dead last.
Mike
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OK, Chick, I'll throw some on here in an attempt to stump ya, but I know it's gonna be a tuff assignment.
Here's a start. Name the short guy.
And the store where Steve got his suit!
I gotta go with Brooks Bros. on the suit....?
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Moose, that ain't Galucci and it sure ain't Kemper and you'll probably kick yourself in the ass for not recognizing him.
Here are a few hints. See how many you have to read before you guess correctly. (I hope that we are both referring to the same photo.)
1. He was married to Cori.
2. He publishes Planet Muscle.
3. He owns big dogs.
4. The front of his home looks like a used car lot for expensive automobiles.
5. He has one of the best cactus gardens in Los Angeles.
I doubt that you need any help after that first hint.
Yep, it's Jeff Everson.
About all those other guys - I've had the priviledge of meeting each of them at one time or another while they were competing or getting ready to compete.
If my memory serves me correctly Clinton used to train with C.F. Smith at Bill Pearl's in Pasadena and Bill recommended that they train at Gold's for a month of so prior to the America contest that they were both planning to enter figuring that it might give them a "political advantage" since Gold's (Ken Sprague) was promoting the event that year at the Santa Monica Civic.
Was it Clinton or C.F. who had the extreme vascularity?
I believe it was C.F. who yelled out some adverse comments while he was on stage at one of the national contests. That happened at the (Mr America?) or NPC Nationals in Cinn, Ohio if I recall correctly. Those adverse remarks probably hurt his overall standing.
Does anyone recall the exact adverse comment that was made? I was backstage so I didn't hear it when it happened.
here's a photo of a friend who had a gym along side a major California highway.... This should prove to be a very tuff one.
Name him.
Name the location of his highway gym in the early 60's.
Name the location of his 2nd gym on some island in the Pacific.
Name his most recent occupation.
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I know that's Ralph (also known in early Weider shots as Red) Kroger...don't know the other niceties you asked about him.
Clinton B had the crazy vascularity...CF wqas a nut but I don't know what he said at the show. It did put him in a fix, though.
Moosejay
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Chick, I was being a wise-ass on that Steve Reeves' suit question, but you're probably right with the Brook's Brothers answer. They were big back then.
Did you have padded shoulders in your first suit or was that out of style by then?
This one is for you to guess unless someone submits the correct answer before you return. Had to cut off the head to make it a bit more difficult. Probably still too easy though.
Don't answer this one, MOOSE!
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Okay, Stunt...but keep 'em coming, I enjoy this!@
MJ
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Yea, Moose! Once again you are correct. That is Ralph. In the early 60's he had a shaky, old, ramshackeled gym along the Pacific Coast Highway only steps away from the beach just a bit south of Oceanside, California.
Then he eventually packed it up and moved to Hilo, Hawaii and set up a gym there, competing once in a local NPC/IFBB event.
Then he moved back to the mainland and to the best of my knowledge, he became a Preacher.
This all happened within a period of 40 years or so.
Moose, how old are you to know all this ancient stuff?
Here's a tough question for ya. I ask because I forgot the name of this guy myself. Back around 1962/63 there was an exceptional bodybuilder for that time-period living and training in the San Diego area. Somehow he managed to cut a big slice in his leg while operating a chainsaw but eventually recovered. Do you recall this part of BB history and who he was?
ANother topic - (See photo below) Here's someone you might have met once or twice back then. I doubt that even Chick would remember him.
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Yea, Moose! Once again you are correct. That is Ralph. In the early 60's he had a shaky, old, ramshackeled gym along the Pacific Coast Highway only steps away from the beach just a bit south of Oceanside, California.
Then he eventually packed it up and moved to Hilo, Hawaii and set up a gym there, competing once in a local NPC/IFBB event.
Then he moved back to the mainland and to the best of my knowledge, he became a Preacher.
This all happened within a period of 40 years or so.
Moose, how old are you to know all this ancient stuff?
Here's a tough question for ya. I ask because I forgot the name of this guy myself. Back around 1962/63 there was an exceptional bodybuilder for that time-period living and training in the San Diego area. Somehow he managed to cut a big slice in his leg while operating a chainsaw but eventually recovered. Do you recall this part of BB history and who he was?
ANother topic - (See photo below) Here's someone you might have met once or twice back then. I doubt that even Chick would remember him.
Interestingly, Kroger competed in and against Dennis Tinnerino in the first Natural Mr. America, sponsored by Chet Yorton, held in Vegas (I think Vegas). Dennis won. That may have been Kroger's last show...I know he came 2nd to Oliva in the 1975 WQBBG Olympus.
The chainsaw man was Chuck Sipes.
haha...I am 44 years old...my friend Mike Katz calls me a bb historian...but, naturally, I am not. Just a pretty clear memory, and I read alot.
I defer to YOU...you are a treasure of experiences and memories.
Here's a good one for you...I came in 9th to Bob Chic's 4th in his first show...the 1981 Natural Teen America, held in lovely Utica, NY. I was astounded at how good Chic looked at 15 yrs old (I was 17). Stood right next to him (Doubt he'd recall skinny me).
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Speaking of Oceanside, California...... Does anyone remember Bob Janus who had a gym/handball type gym on the east side of Highway 5?
OK, here's the last shot for the evening.....
See photo below.... A great friend but the last time I heard from him, he had just been rescued from a three day hiatus in some unfamiliar forest.
Phil Hernon was a great fan of his and was probably the major reason for getting involved in this crazy sport we call bodybuilding.
Name him ......
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Speaking of Oceanside, California...... Does anyone remember Bob Janus who had a gym/handball type gym on the east side of Highway 5?
OK, here's the last shot for the evening.....
See photo below.... A great friend but the last time I heard from him, he had just been rescued from a three day hiatus in some unfamiliar forest.
Phil Hernon was a great fan of his and was probably the major reason for getting involved in this crazy sport we call bodybuilding.
Name him ......
Gary Leonard...won the America year following Ray Mentzer (Actually....Leonard probably deserved to win the year he came in behind Ray...and Bronston Austin, Jr. should have won the year Leonard won....oh, well).
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Chick, I was being a wise-ass on that Steve Reeves' suit question, but you're probably right with the Brook's Brothers answer. They were big back then.
Did you have padded shoulders in your first suit or was that out of style by then?
This one is for you to guess unless someone submits the correct answer before you return. Had to cut off the head to make it a bit more difficult. Probably still too easy though.
Don't answer this one, MOOSE!
Brooks Bros it is then...LOL
I'm going with Ernie Santiago?
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Interestingly, Kroger competed in and against Dennis Tinnerino in the first Natural Mr. America, sponsored by Chet Yorton, held in Vegas (I think Vegas). Dennis won. That may have been Kroger's last show...I know he came 2nd to Oliva in the 1975 WQBBG Olympus.
The chainsaw man was Chuck Sipes.
haha...I am 44 years old...my friend Mike Katz calls me a bb historian...but, naturally, I am not. Just a pretty clear memory, and I read alot.
I defer to YOU...you are a treasure of experiences and memories.
Here's a good one for you...I came in 9th to Bob Chic's 4th in his first show...the 1981 Natural Teen America, held in lovely Utica, NY. I was astounded at how good Chic looked at 15 yrs old (I was 17). Stood right next to him (Doubt he'd recall skinny me).
WOW...good stuff bro..!
I can think of a lot of adjetives for Utica...but "lovely" aint one of them...as I'm sure you remember
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Brooks Bros it is then...LOL
I'm going with Ernie Santiago?
Yes...looks like Santiago
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WOW...good stuff bro..!
I can think of a lot of adjetives for Utica...but "lovely" aint one of them...as I'm sure you remember
Yeah...that was said with tongue firmly in cheek, Bob :)
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how about Gypsy's protein...was it a combo of bananas and carrots?......
Moose, to be honest with ya, I don't know what Gypsy's stuff was made of but I can tell you now that it was in the form of small wafers wrapped somewhat similar to "Life Savers" and tasted like crap.
As far as I know, those little wafers were the first "protein" supplements offered on the market outside of the very limited number of Weider products. I do recall ordering some of Weider's gain weight product in liquid form back then and it tasted almost identical to Geritol.
It appears that the snake oil salesmen of the wild wild west have crossed the praries and still remain with us today.
I remember reading in Dick Tyler and Draper's book West Coast BB Scene, about a show in the 70's run by Zane, Arnold and Franco (and won by Ed Giuliani) at a high school...and Gypsy Boots did a performance...Tyler had a hard time describing what Boots did...it was kind of insane...but it involved carrots and bananas....
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Chick, as usual - you are right once again. It is Ernie without his head on top. If Brooks is still open, I'm gonna look for that suit and wear it to funerals, weddings and christenings
Moose, I knew Gypsy for a brief period of time in the early 60's. They held a contest on some baseball field in Palm Springs and Gypsy did some amazing feats with a football. And even back then he was a relatively old guy. I can't offer an accurate guess on how far he threw that ball but no one else there was willing to challenge him with a longer toss.
I got no idea what he did with those banannas and carrots though. I must have missed that one.
That was the year that Don Peterson won and Peter Lupus (Mission Impossible) took second. And that was the same day the sandstorm took the paint off my relatively newly painted VW while driving out of town back to the base.
Moose, I "kind of recall" a similar chainsaw accident happening to Sipes but I believe that that event happened years later and much later than the early 60's.
Regardless, it is not Chuck Sipes that I am thinking of in reference to the San Diego incident. Care to offer a second opinion?
Interesting to hear that you competed against Bob back then. I think I first me Bob when he was competing against Ernie Santiago at some West Coast event or it could have possibly been during some photo session after one of those contests.
Since, I'm back on, I'll post another photo of a good friend during the latter part of his life. He made funny things happen during those relatively young years in the BB era.
Moose, I worked on Gary's prep that year he won. And a mutual friend by the name of Steve Dussia worked on his posing which Gary claimed enabled him to win the overall Mr America title (that was the last year it was awarded). The next year we all got together for the Nationals at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas (Tim Belnap won it with the help of Jeff and Cori while I served as the Gopher Driver looking for the right foods to eat). One of the Supp Companies threw a party after the contest (the finals was held in the early afternoon so that Engelbert Humperdink or some comparable critter could go on stage for the main event). That was unquestionably the best party I've even attended (someone must have spiked my cocktail or blown MJ in my direction) with just about everyone of any importance in attendence, (Even met Rock Stonewall that afternoon.) Capped off the evening by searching for a shortcut to another casino and unexpectantly ended up in the Caesars fountain on the other side of some marble wall. That was the only time I was ever asked to leave a casino. The Security Crew claimed I was having too much fun so I was escorted to the street with other fun loving critters. Believe it or not but we hit the next casino on the Strip and somehow won a lot of money pitching quarters into some bandit contraption.
Here's the photo I briefly mentioned above. This one is EAZZZZZZZYYYYYYY
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Don Ross.
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Yes, Don Ross, RIP.
Wow, Stunt...that sounded like lots of fun.
Yeah, I recall Belknap...known for being a diabetic.
Can't recall the certain chainsaw guy you reference.
Met up with Bob and had a few words with him at his recent NY Pro win...contrary to many who post here...he deserved the win in my opinion.
Yeah, wonder if Boots is still alive...it'd seem unlikely.
Did Leonard have a brother who also competed? For some reason, this thought resounds in my mind....
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Yep, Doc. Easy one, huh?
Opps, I forgot to mention this to ya, Moose.
The year that Gary lost to Ray - that contest was held at the old Fox Theater in Atlanta, Georgia.
I had an old truck which we drove down from Huntsville and we were using it to transport the contenders from the hotel (Hyatt?) to the contest venue site about 2 miles away.
On completing what I thought was my last trip, I ran into a worried looking Mike who was standing outside waiting for the arrival of his brother. I told him that I'd go back to the hotel and look for him and I did manage to find him standing on the curb in front of the Hyatt as soon as I drove up. He hopped in and I asked if he realized that he would be late for the finals briefing. He said, "No because I knew someone would come by and find me. No worries! I let Mike do the worrying for me. I just want to get this over and get that trophy home. Thanks for coming for me."
He was that confident that day and he did deserve that win.
Those were the good old days.
Yes, Moose, Gary did have a younger bro who looked like he had a lot of potential to do well in bodybuilding, but I don't know how far he took it.
I'm gonna do my best to re-contact some of these old timers soon. I hope that they are all still alive and kicken.
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Yeah...that was when that show was run by Doc Neely, of 'Doc's Gym' and posing trunks production.
Dave Rodgers was pretty bug around that time...won the USA in controversial fashion.
I do think he is still there, yes(Doc)?
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Yea, Dave Rogers lived in the vicinity of Doc's Gym and Doc helped him out a lot. We arrived at Doc's one evening and were invited to a birthday party in the gym for Dave.
Dave was a great bodybuilder but just not big enough to win an overall title on the West Coast. I never did follow Dave's career so I am not aware of his USA win. Send the details if ya will.
The one impressive individual who I think has been competing the longest has got to be James Hampton. I first met James when he competed in one of the national contests in Las Vegas the year Alan Ichinose won.
And I understand that he's still competing. Good for him! Impressive competitive history. Here's one of the most recent shots I could find of james.
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This is a very good thread.Many of the bodybuilders in the pics posted are familiar faces but I am sure many do not know their names or their achievements.Perhaps GETBIG mods should create a special section just for this thread coz it's certainly educational if you're a bodybuilding enthusiast. ;)
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Yea, Dave Rogers lived in the vicinity of Doc's Gym and Doc helped him out a lot. We arrived at Doc's one evening and were invited to a birthday party in the gym for Dave.
Dave was a great bodybuilder but just not big enough to win an overall title on the West Coast. I never did follow Dave's career so I am not aware of his USA win. Send the details if ya will.
The one impressive individual who I think has been competing the longest has got to be James Hampton. I first met James when he competed in one of the national contests in Las Vegas the year Alan Ichinose won.
And I understand that he's still competing. Good for him! Impressive competitive history. Here's one of the most recent shots I could find of james.
James took second to me when I won the Jr. Nationals in 1987...
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Where was the Jr Nats held that year, Bob?
Here's another person you may have competed against at one time or another. (Might have been before your time though.) .
Great guy! He used to encourage me to have a Polish Hot Dog at an old casino in LV called Vegas World because the place was owned and run by Bob Stupak who was also Polish as is the person in the photo.
I did visit the place once or twice and sure enough - Bob Stupak was in the casino serving Polish Hot Dogs from a small cart on the casino floor.
And he took time off to give me an autographed copy of a book he wrote on the casino game of craps. One of the better reads on that subject.
Photo attached ... Name him (and spell his last name correctly).
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Going back before Bob's time.
Name him and his home state......
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Where was the Jr Nats held that year, Bob?
Here's another person you may have competed against at one time or another. (Might have been before your time though.) .
Great guy! He used to encourage me to have a Polish Hot Dog at an old casino in LV called Vegas World because the place was owned and run by Bob Stupak who was also Polish as is the person in the photo.
I did visit the place once or twice and sure enough - Bob Stupak was in the casino serving Polish Hot Dogs from a small cart on the casino floor.
And he took time off to give me an autographed copy of a book he wrote on the casino game of craps. One of the better reads on that subject.
Photo attached ... Name him (and spell his last name correctly).
Don't know about the spelling. Bob Jodkiwiecz or something like that. The other pic is Jim Haislop from Florida.
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GOOD GOING, CHEM. Close enuff on Bob's name. Not precise but I don't have enough time to correct it right now.
Is Haislop still with us?
Here's an old shot ....
Name all three.
The year the pic was taken.
The contest.
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Here's an easy one. Every time I hear that Hollywood is about to make a new Superman movie, I email the studios one of these Supe shots to show them what he really is supposed to look like. This one is a good example of what I think.
ANd here are the questions:
Name his alter ego.
Name his ma.
Name his pa.
Name his first girlfriend.
Name his wife.
Name his primary nemisis.
Name who killed him once.
Name his home planet.
Name the green stuff.
Name the first year he appeared in a comic book.
What did that first time cover look like?
What is the value of that comic in great condition worth today?
True or False? Steve Reeves was scheduled to play the role of Superman but the agents got confused and signed George Reeves up instead.
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One of the unknown greats who has been competing for a good number of years.
Name him .....
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GOOD GOING, CHEM. Close enuff on Bob's name. Not precise but I don't have enough time to correct it right now.
Is Haislop still with us?
Here's an old shot ....
Name all three.
The year the pic was taken.
The contest.
Steve Reeves, Reg park, don't know the girl..Mr. Universe 1950. My father was there and sat next to Reg Park's dad. My father told me he thought Reg looked more muscular that year than Reeves.
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Interesting, Chem! Where was that contest held? I don't know her name either. Could be "Pudgy Stockton" for all I know. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks, Chem.
For a change of pace, here are a few questions for the High Class Gym Rats out there. I have never seen the following equipment in any gym I've been in, but some of you might have. Looks to be on the expensive side of the usual gym gear.
Name the apparatus! What bodypart it works or just plain "what it does". And the manufacturer.
And if you have ever used it and if it works or not.
So here goes ... What Dat?
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Here's a complicated piece of expensive looking equipment.
Anyone got one or trained on one or know what it does and how it works?
Who makes it and all that related stuff?
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Kind of evident to see what this piece of equipment does, but who manufactures it? This display at the recent Expo in San Diego was one of the most popular equipment lines in the center. I'll include a photo of the entire display in a later posting.
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Yea, Dave Rogers lived in the vicinity of Doc's Gym and Doc helped him out a lot. We arrived at Doc's one evening and were invited to a birthday party in the gym for Dave.
Dave was a great bodybuilder but just not big enough to win an overall title on the West Coast. I never did follow Dave's career so I am not aware of his USA win. Send the details if ya will.
The one impressive individual who I think has been competing the longest has got to be James Hampton. I first met James when he competed in one of the national contests in Las Vegas the year Alan Ichinose won.
And I understand that he's still competing. Good for him! Impressive competitive history. Here's one of the most recent shots I could find of james.
hmmm...don't have any otrher info on Dave, stunt, sorry...
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Where was the Jr Nats held that year, Bob?
Here's another person you may have competed against at one time or another. (Might have been before your time though.) .
Great guy! He used to encourage me to have a Polish Hot Dog at an old casino in LV called Vegas World because the place was owned and run by Bob Stupak who was also Polish as is the person in the photo.
I did visit the place once or twice and sure enough - Bob Stupak was in the casino serving Polish Hot Dogs from a small cart on the casino floor.
And he took time off to give me an autographed copy of a book he wrote on the casino game of craps. One of the better reads on that subject.
Photo attached ... Name him (and spell his last name correctly).
yes. I believe BJ won the Junior Mr. America and qwas a top entrant in nationals for some time...very strong...powerlifting background
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Going back before Bob's time.
Name him and his home state......
stunt...was it Hailslop or Howorth who spent some time in jail?....
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Here's an easy one. Every time I hear that Hollywood is about to make a new Superman movie, I email the studios one of these Supe shots to show them what he really is supposed to look like. This one is a good example of what I think.
ANd here are the questions:
Name his alter ego.
Name his ma.
Name his pa.
Name his first girlfriend.
Name his wife.
Name his primary nemisis.
Name who killed him once.
Name his home planet.
Name the green stuff.
Name the first year he appeared in a comic book.
What did that first time cover look like?
What is the value of that comic in great condition worth today?
True or False? Steve Reeves was scheduled to play the role of Superman but the agents got confused and signed George Reeves up instead.
well, I never was a DC comics guy...mostly Marvel (I picked up Spider Man #1 at a flea market when I was 14 for twenty five cents!@ :))
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Steve Reeves, Reg park, don't know the girl..Mr. Universe 1950. My father was there and sat next to Reg Park's dad. My father told me he thought Reg looked more muscular that year than Reeves.
I betcha Reg qwould not make you leave the backstage if your dad refused to invest with him!
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Interesting, Chem! Where was that contest held? I don't know her name either. Could be "Pudgy Stockton" for all I know. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks, Chem.
For a change of pace, here are a few questions for the High Class Gym Rats out there. I have never seen the following equipment in any gym I've been in, but some of you might have. Looks to be on the expensive side of the usual gym gear.
Name the apparatus! What bodypart it works or just plain "what it does". And the manufacturer.
And if you have ever used it and if it works or not.
So here goes ... What Dat?
Supposedly, vibrates as you stand on it to accentuate mucle recruitment....a study performed at University of Appalachia (I know, its not Yale) has disproven this as well as increased recruitment when using those atocious excercise balls (they found that the balls actually cause you to recruit less fibers)
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Here's a complicated piece of expensive looking equipment.
Anyone got one or trained on one or know what it does and how it works?
Who makes it and all that related stuff?
My old Wrold's ( now P-fitness, so I doin 't go there) had one. It is a multi-station cable unit...can do many different b-parts...its okay.
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Steve Reeves, Reg park, don't know the girl..Mr. Universe 1950. My father was there and sat next to Reg Park's dad. My father told me he thought Reg looked more muscular that year than Reeves.
Betcha Reg would not make you leave backstage if your dad refused to invest with him! :)
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Moose, It was DOn Howorth who spent some time in jail. I don't recall the exact details but I think he was running some illegal shit for a motorcycle club.
He was a great guy back when I met him in the 60's, so I hope he is doing well today.
He used to show up at the contests in the Embassy Auditorium (downtown L.A.) in a sweater and everyone was amazed by his delts.
Those are the days when Gene Mozee used to MC the shows and roughly 6 - 8 contestants would compete.
I'll see if I can locate some of those old time shots and post them on here.
I do recall a big rivalry at the Cal Contest when John Corvello went up against Bill McArdle. At that time Larry Scott was training Bill, so everyone felt that Bill would win it easily.
It was a tough contest and the judges took an extra long time making their decision, but John won it and Bill took second.
I believe Bill passed away at a young age but the last I heard about John is that he is still working as a Personal Trainer in the L.A. area.
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And here's Bill McArdle .....
Moose (or anyone else), Do you recall Rheo H. Blair ?
And how about MLO? That one may still be around.
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Moose, It was DOn Howorth who spent some time in jail. I don't recall the exact details but I think he was running some illegal shit for a motorcycle club.
He was a great guy back when I met him in the 60's, so I hope he is doing well today.
He used to show up at the contests in the Embassy Auditorium (downtown L.A.) in a sweater and everyone was amazed by his delts.
Those are the days when Gene Mozee used to MC the shows and roughly 6 - 8 contestants would compete.
I'll see if I can locate some of those old time shots and post them on here.
I do recall a big rivalry at the Cal Contest when John Corvello went up against Bill McArdle. At that time Larry Scott was training Bill, so everyone felt that Bill would win it easily.
It was a tough contest and the judges took an extra long time making their decision, but John won it and Bill took second.
I believe Bill passed away at a young age but the last I heard about John is that he is still working as a Personal Trainer in the L.A. area.
Yeah...sadly, Bill passed in 1995 at 52. Way too young.
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Where was the Jr Nats held that year, Bob?
Here's another person you may have competed against at one time or another. (Might have been before your time though.) .
Great guy! He used to encourage me to have a Polish Hot Dog at an old casino in LV called Vegas World because the place was owned and run by Bob Stupak who was also Polish as is the person in the photo.
I did visit the place once or twice and sure enough - Bob Stupak was in the casino serving Polish Hot Dogs from a small cart on the casino floor.
And he took time off to give me an autographed copy of a book he wrote on the casino game of craps. One of the better reads on that subject.
Photo attached ... Name him (and spell his last name correctly).
1987 Jr. Nationals were held in Toledo. OH.
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And here's Bill McArdle .....
Moose (or anyone else), Do you recall Rheo H. Blair ?
And how about MLO? That one may still be around.
Blair was a pioneer in the protein powder world. At least, when it came to taste, his stuff was non-pareil.
Mike Katz told me when he and Corney went to Baghdad for the 72 U, it was so hard to find decent food, that he thanked God he brought Blair protein with him.
The qater, he said, was suspect, not to mention those boiling delicacies called sheeps head in the streets.
Stunt...one for YOU: Do you know Rheo's original name? :)
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Was MLO a Hoffman product?
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Shit! I was in Toledo last winter. Is there any worst place than that city in the whole of the USA?
Moose, that vibration machine mentioned and shown above is very similar to the Penny Arcade foot machine we used to use at Playland at the Beach in SF back in the much earlier days. Put a nickle in and let it shake the hell out of your tired feet. When we were kids we used to use it all the time.
I told the guy who was demonstrating this $9,000 vibrator at the Expo that, "If this thing works, I'd have the most muscle-bound feet in existence!"
He insisted that it was capable of doing all sorts of developmental stuff. I merely laughed and said, "OK", but it is my understanding that the MMA guys like it for some unknown reason.
There were at least 4 major companies displaying similar contraptions.
Looks like those old time vitamin salesmen have now graduated into hardward sales.
Moose, I did meet Rheo back around 1963, but I don't know his real name. He or his associates were selling the product in a small shop off to the side of some lake in the middle of the city someplace. I bought it and have to admit that it tasted great. Wasn't it solely an egg product? I think I paid $12 for the large cannister but don't rely on me for that statement.
Another competitor was selling beef liver protein. Do you recall that one. Tasted terrible.
No, MLO was produced in the Heyward, California area. Owner was MillardWilliamson. A good friend of mine use to shovel it into smaller cans from a 55 gallon drums.
More to follow. Heading off....
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Shit! I was in Toledo last winter. Is there any worst place than that city in the whole of the USA?
Moose, that vibration machine mentioned and shown above is very similar to the Penny Arcade foot machine we used to use at Playland at the Beach in SF back in the much earlier days. Put a nickle in and let it shake the hell out of your tired feet. When we were kids we used to use it all the time.
I told the guy who was demonstrating this $9,000 vibrator at the Expo that, "If this thing works, I'd have the most muscle-bound feet in existence!"
He insisted that it was capable of doing all sorts of developmental stuff. I merely laughed and said, "OK", but it is my understanding that the MMA guys like it for some unknown reason.
There were at least 4 major companies displaying similar contraptions.
Looks like those old time vitamin salesmen have now graduated into hardward sales.
Moose, I did meet Rheo back around 1963, but I don't know his real name. He or his associates were selling the product in a small shop off to the side of some lake in the middle of the city someplace. I bought it and have to admit that it tasted great. Wasn't it solely an egg product? I think I paid $12 for the large cannister but don't rely on me for that statement.
Another competitor was selling beef liver protein. Do you recall that one. Tasted terrible.
No, MLO was produced in the Heyward, California area. Owner was MillardWilliamson. A good friend of mine use to shovel it into smaller cans from a 55 gallon drums.
More to follow. Heading off....
Haha...my father told me a story about Toledo...home of the Toledo scale co.
The slogan "Holy Toldeo" comes from the happenstance of an obese person stepping on the scale, noting the immense poundage, and stating.."Holy Toledo!"....don't know how true...dad could have been sassing me.
Mike Katz actually has some left from 30+ years ago...I believe it was egg and some unkowqn constitutes, as well.
Yeah...the beef liver protein powder was horrible....this qas qwhen the tabs were big and we took up to 1200 per day!
Funny, I go to Danville (right near Hayward) in Cali 5 times per year on business.
Yeah...I think the vibratory devices are bunk...but who am I to mess with the MMA guys!
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btw...I meant to say 100 beef liver tabs per day!
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Betcha Reg would not make you leave backstage if your dad refused to invest with him! :)
Hey I'm from Toledo! But I've lived in Florida since I was 6. My grandfather started the Champion Spark Plug company in Toledo, but I agree for the most part, not the nicest city in the world. Anyhow, so people know what you meant in that quote, I'm re-posting the Arnold story. here it is.....
My father knew Joe Weider from the 1950's and in 1977, at the age of 15 , I saw my first Mr. Olympia and met Arnold, who ran the show for 3 years with Jim Lorimer. Arnold was great and took me backstage where I met all the guys. He did it again in 1978. A few months before the '79 Mr. Olympia, Arnold calls my house and asks to speak to my dad. My father was pretty well known as a big investor in the Finance world and Arnold asked him if he would invest in a documentary film he was making about weight training in prison. My father decided not to invest. Anyhow, I show up at the 79 Olympia with a friend of mine and I go backstage because Arnold always told me to go backstage every year since 1977. So Arnold walks over to me and screams at me, "Get out of here! You're not allowed back here!" I was in shock because he acted like he didn't recognize me, when a few months before he spotted me at World Gym and came up to me and spoke to me for like 20 minutes. So I go Arnold, it's me ..... and he says, "Get the Hell out of here!" I didn't figure it out till later that this was his message to my dad for not investing with him. True story.
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wow...champion spark plugs...you have a lot of achievement in your family....that's great bc that's what America needs......motivated innovators and achievers
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wow...champion spark plugs...you have a lot of achievement in your family....that's great bc that's what America needs......motivated innovators and achievers
Thanks. My dad was a champion golfer in the 40's and 50's and was the first golfer to do heavy weightlifting. In the 40's people thought he was crazy to lift weights and told him he's be too musclebound to swing a club. He ended up being one of the longest hitters of his era. He did a 315 pound Clean and Jerk, 510 pound deadlift, and 400 pound squat while playing on the golf tour weighing about 175. Can't say I've accomplished as much him and my grandfather. I competed in some bodybuilding shows when I was younger and won some local golf tournaments. I went to film school and have made some films that go into film festivals and I do pretty good trading Currencies and commodities. My dad did instill the importance of discipline in me and I admire people that become champions at anything because I know what it takes to get there.
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Excellent...excellent... love to hear this. Not enough of our people think and do this wqay.
I wqon a golf match at 14 years old...only me and another kid were in it :)
And I was benching 165 at 14 ;D
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Thanks. My dad was a champion golfer in the 40's and 50's and was the first golfer to do heavy weightlifting. In the 40's people thought he was crazy to lift weights and told him he's be too musclebound to swing a club. He ended up being one of the longest hitters of his era. He did a 315 pound Clean and Jerk, 510 pound deadlift, and 400 pound squat while playing on the golf tour weighing about 175. Can't say I've accomplished as much him and my grandfather. I competed in some bodybuilding shows when I was younger and won some local golf tournaments. I went to film school and have made some films that go into film festivals and I do pretty good trading Currencies and commodities. My dad did instill the importance of discipline in me and I admire people that become champions at anything because I know what it takes to get there.
I thought Gary Player was the first golfer to really incorporate heavy lifting to get in shape, but the years you mention are too early. ???
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I thought Gary Player was the first golfer to really incorporate heavy lifting to get in shape, but the years you mention are too early. ???
Actually, Gary Player is a good friend of my father and credits him as the one who influenced him to start training.
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Excellent...excellent...love to hear this. Not enough of our people think and do this wqay.
I wqon a golf match at 14 years old...only me and another kid were in it :)
And I was benching 165 at 14 ;D
That's a good bench for 14. I had a little bit of publicity at 14 when I went to York, Pennsylvania and stayed with John Grimek for a few days. Back then, my day had me doing lifts like deadlifts, squats, clean and jerk to get stronger for golf. They did a story on me in 1978 in Muscular Development and it's the issue that has Roy Hilligen on the cover. I still have the magazine. It shows me doing a Clean and Jerk with about 170 when I weighing 128 pounds. I'm also in an issue of Muscle Mag International a few years ago. They did a story on my dad and showed a picture of me, taken in 1994 about the time we guest posed together in Florida, Father and son routine. I was about 32 and my dad was 72.
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Wow...I think I have those issues....stored away somewhere....very good poundages for you at that age...I never did those lifts....mostly into heavy squatting wqhen a kid....may I ask if your dad is still with us?
And, staying with JCG...priceless
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Wow...I think I have those issues....stored away somewhere....very good poundages for you at that age...I never did those lifts....mostly into heavy squatting wqhen a kid....may I ask if your dad is still with us?
And, staying with JCG...priceless
Yeah, he's 85 and still works out. After I saw Pumping Iron, I kind of got out of the weightlifting movements, and focused on bodybuilding. In fact I saw Pumping Iron for the first time when I was at York in 78. Grimek dropped me off at the theater but he wouldn't go in to see the movie. I asked him why he didn't want to see it and he said, "I don't want to watch those Weider boys." Obviously there was some bad blood between Hoffman, him and Joe Weider.
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I saw PI around 78, too.
Kudos to your pop.
I am sure Grimek did see it, at least once...maybe alone. There was always a long tradition of bad bogue btw Hoffman, Weider and Lurie camps, as you know
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I saw PI around 78, too.
Kudos to your pop.
I am sure Grimek did see it, at least once...maybe alone. There was always a long tradition of bad bogue btw Hoffman, Weider and Lurie camps, as you know
I also stayed at Joe Weider's house a few months later. Saw Betty walking around in a little Nightie and she still had a great body for an older woman. Even at 14, I guess I was into the MILF thing. LOL Anyhow, I'm having lunch with Joe and I tell him how Grimek wouldn't go see Pumping Iron. He couldn't believe it but he never said anything bad about Grimek. However, he really insulted Hoffman. He said, "Bob Hoffman's the biggest hypocrite in the world. He preaches about health when he's drunk half the time. He talks about being virtuous when he used to have hooker's give him blowjobs under the table in restaurants." Now I'm not saying this stuff was true, just quoting Joe.
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wow...I thought I had great experiences....you are the prince when it comes to this stuff....always wanted to meet Joe...never did...I used to buy Hoffman's mags...I recall when he passed away (1985?)...I believe his mag did not announce that he passed for like two years...Chemist...do you recall any truth to thios premise?
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wow...I thought I had great experiences....you are the prince when it comes to this stuff....always wanted to meet Joe...never did...I used to buy Hoffman's mags...I recall when he passed away (1985?)...I believe his mag did not announce that he passed for like two years...Chemist...do you recall any truth to thios premise?
I have heard a few things about Hoffman such as some of the photographs of him doing a one arm barbell press of over 250 pounds, the weights were fake and made of aluminum. Also heard he didn't lead as healthy a lifestyle as he claimed, but I have never heard about the hooker thing except from Joe. I have never heard anyone say anything bad about John Grimek and I can personally attest to the fact that he was a great guy.
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Thought I'd add a couple of pics for the thread. Who are these guys?
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Thought I'd add a couple of pics for the thread. Who are these guys?
Joe Means.....most ripped guy back then
John Hnatyshcack (forgive poor spelling)...another very ripped world champs winner
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I have heard a few things about Hoffman such as some of the photographs of him doing a one arm barbell press of over 250 pounds, the weights were fake and made of aluminum. Also heard he didn't lead as healthy a lifestyle as he claimed, but I have never heard about the hooker thing except from Joe. I have never heard anyone say anything bad about John Grimek and I can personally attest to the fact that he was a great guy.
Yeah..Hoffman.,
Last year, My girl and I took a ride to York to check out their hall of fame. Well, not much to it...good thing I had some interest as I collect Eugen Sandow effects...otherwise...mo re like a false shrine to Hoffman
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Joe Means.....most ripped guy back then
John Hnatyshcack (forgive poor spelling)...another very ripped world champs winner
You really know your stuff. Maybe I'm sounding like an old timer but I like the look of a lot of these guys better than some of the pro's today that have the big bellies, synthdol delts and arms. Also most of todays guys pose and stand awkwardly and have no charisma. Of course there are some exceptions, but I think the whole sport has been ruined by the GH, Insulin synthol thing.
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Thanks, Chemist.
I may have much bb lore stored in my head, but you have got me by a down-home, Louisiana mile when it comes to experiences.
Yes, I agree with you.
While I harbor deep respect for today's bb's...their hard wqork, resilience, etc., I by far favor the look, attitude, etc of yesterday's bb's.
And you don't sound any older than me....once I heal from surgery, I wqill do my level best to get back in shape and look like a 30 year old :)!
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Moose, Chem, any others interested ....... The animosity between the Weiders, Dan Lurie, and the Hoffman camp was thicker than water.
Sorry for this long winded post but it is a valid piece of BB history as I personally recall it ..... I posted something similar to this previously and received a few objections so there are other sides to this story ..... BUT I was there and witnessed it personally and partook in it as was my right to do so.
Here goes ...... This is how I remember it ........
Back around 1976 era (I think Dave Johns won that year) we had a big meeting at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium with about 120 people in attendance each of whom had voting rights due to their official status with the AAU.
That included all the state AAU bodybuilding reps and the likes of the Hoffman contingent, Dan Lurie himself, and Joe and Ben Weider plus the board members who composed the AAU Bodybuilding Committee.
To the best of my knowledge, that meeting was officially called in an effort to establish a bodybuilding organization that would be distinct and separate from the AAU.
If I remember this correctly, there were numerous objections about the availabiilty of travel funds and how they were not available for the AAU bodybuilding athletes because those funds were spent on other athletic endeavors such as travel support for swimmers and olympic lifters.
AND .... it was also evident to most of us that the York Group (Bob Hoffman) was simply using the bodybuilders to support the olympic lifting events. (I personally attended a contest at the Embassy Auditorium in the early 60's at which a national championship bodybuilding contest was held in conjunction with an olympic lifting event; and the bodybuilders did not get on stage until the lifting was completely over and the awards were made. That was about 2:00 am in the morning. That was the year Jerry Daniels won. A hotly contested decision.)
That event was the first time that I noticed a lot of dissention among the bodybuilders. Just about everyone felt that it was time for a change and the "Bodybuilding Board" picked up the ball and ran with it.
Someone else may be able to name those board members but at present all I can remember was "Jerome Weise". He was the brains behind getting all the legalities and paperwork done when it came time to make some major changes.
I don't know precisely how the Weiders got involved but one of the board members either approached them with a solid plan or they simply invited them to attend an important meeting.
So one Sunday morning of the day following the Mr America contest, we all gathered together at the SMCC for an important meeting. All the "board members", the state reps, many of the athletes, the Weiders, Dan Lurie, and the Hoffman camp ..... Bob Hoffman was't there personally but I kind of recall that he was well represented by Terpak or Grimek and a few others.
I arrived expecting a major battle once I saw who was in attendance, but each group of antagonists were separate from the others and speaking quietly among themselves. The space was set with up an elevated table for the "board members", a speakers podium with microphone, and an amble number of chairs for all in attendance.
I took a seat up front and introduced myself to a guy sitting next to me and he stated that he was one of the first of the Weider employees and knew Ben and Joe better than anyone in the room. And then the meeting started.
I was impressed .... they were following Robert's Rules of Order. This was official function and it was apparent that we were there to get something important accomplished.
At the proper time one of the board members introduced Mr Ben Weider from the floor. He immediately walked up to the podium and ajusted the mic. He was one of a very few in the room dressed in a tie, slacks, and a blue blazer. Very impressive. After a few eloquent words of introduction, he stated that he had an offer to make for all concerned.....
Here is the essence of that offer ........ (as I recall it)
If the present bodybuilding organization were to choose to set up their own governing body, the IFBB would recognize this new governing body as the only amateur governing bodybuilding organization in the United States and its possessions. Furthermore, the IFBB would not promote or sanction any amatuer bodybuilding contest in the US providing that this new governing body would recognize the IFBB as the world governing body for amatuer and professional contests outside of the US and for professional events within the US. This new organization would have the right to promote amatuer bodybuilding contests in the USA without interference or competition from the IFBB.
Now the room started to heat up. Even the guy next to me started to object. There was a major roar from the Hoffman side of the room and Lurie was on his feet with verbose objections. ..... to be continued. Back to work....
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Stunt...can't wait to hear the rest....
Moose
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Who can get this one?
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MM? In Australia?
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I read this guy's book when I was still in grammer school. The title has been forgotten but it had the word "Carrot-sticks" in it. If you are interested in the real history of "physical culture" now called "bodybuilding", you might want to check this link out. I think you'll find it interesting unless you object to "too many words". Try to make a guess of his name before hitting the link ....
http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1981/1/1981_1_22.shtml
And don't hit the link if you object to a photo with a fig leaf in the appropriate place.
OPPS!! And don't look at the picture below this post. Sorry bout that.
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Who can get this one?
Is that Michalik?
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I gotta check back to the picture before I can answer ya, Bix.
In the meantime.......
Some of you may recognize this gentleman. I don't know how he is associated with the world of BB but he was at a BB expo and was the center of attention in some TV show booth, so I joined in and shot his photo.
Good man! He actually thanked me for taking this picture.
You're welcome!
Name him. I sure can't!
PS. He's not blurry. It's the picture.
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Bix, I'll be damn surprised if that is a picture of Michalik. It looks more like MM to me when he competed against you-know-who in you-know-where when you-know-when.
I could be wrong though. I find it difficult to ID people without their heads on.
While we're at it, here's another old time BB to ID.
Name him.....
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OK. back to some tuff ones .....
Name this guy and the approximate years in which he competed ....
Bob should get this one but I don't think anyone else will unless you cheat and go searching on the net.
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OK. back to some tuff ones .....
Name this guy and the approximate years in which he competed ....
Bob should get this one but I don't think anyone else will unless you cheat and go searching on the net.
Roy Hilligen (sp)
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Roy Hilligen (sp)
You = BB encyclopedia.
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I knew you'd get that one, Chick. Is he still among the living? Last I heard he was healthy and living north of San Francisco, but that was a good while back.
OK, another difficult one. A European contender, so this one may be hard to figure out ....
Name him.
Chick if you know it, just send in his initials so the others can take a stab at it.
Trains hard and not too heavy and is often seen on stage with a sword routine.
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I knew you'd get that one, Chick. Is he still among the living? Last I heard he was healthy and living north of San Francisco, but that was a good while back.
OK, another difficult one. A European contender, so this one may be hard to figure out ....
Name him.
Chick if you know it, just send in his initials so the others can take a stab at it.
Trains hard and not too heavy and is often seen on stage with a sword routine.
Don't know that one......come on Bill...OLD SCHOOL!
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Who can get this one?
The forearms sure look like Mentzer's
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OK. back to some tuff ones .....
Name this guy and the approximate years in which he competed ....
Bob should get this one but I don't think anyone else will unless you cheat and go searching on the net.
I know he's been in jail for more than half his life, intermittently
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I gotta check back to the picture before I can answer ya, Bix.
In the meantime.......
Some of you may recognize this gentleman. I don't know how he is associated with the world of BB but he was at a BB expo and was the center of attention in some TV show booth, so I joined in and shot his photo.
Good man! He actually thanked me for taking this picture.
You're welcome!
Name him. I sure can't!
PS. He's not blurry. It's the picture.
American Gladiator guy
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Roy Hilligen is well into his 80's and was recently released from prison, for what I don't know
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MM? In Australia?
No but I'll give a hint, might not help at all thou, I am sure he competed in the Mr.O at least once.
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Bix, You mean MM's?? If so, .... YEA!
Back before Chick's time, they used to train with kettlebells and wooden pegs that looked identical to bowling alley pins. And they had a mechanical belt in the corner that you could put around your waist that would literally shake the shit out of you. And other places in every major city there was always a vibrating foot machine offering you a seat and a place to insert a nickel to make you tired feet come back to life.
Now some of these contraptions are coming back. Kettlebells were a major attraction at the recent expo in San Diego. And a vibrating machine that you stood on and rattled your bones all the way up to your cavities and beyond. I tried it and all is did to me was make my legs itch like hell for about ten minutes thereafter.
No return of those bowling ball pins though. I guess that will be next year's big attraction.
And possibly the return of bee-pollen and yogurt and vitamin E oil at full strength straight from a dark colored bottle.
Here's the latest version of those kettlebells mentioned above. They sell them to match the color of your eyeballs. I bought the red pair after a serious night in Las Vegas celebrating one week of no drinking.
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Roy Hilligen is well into his 80's and was recently released from prison, for what I don't know
RAPE
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Bix, You mean MM's?? If so, .... YEA!
Back before Chick's time, they used to train with kettlebells and wooden pegs that looked identical to bowling alley pins. And they had a mechanical belt in the corner that you could put around your waist that would literally shake the shit out of you. And other places in every major city there was always a vibrating foot machine offering you a seat and a place to insert a nickel to make you tired feet come back to life.
Now some of these contraptions are coming back. Kettlebells were a major attraction at the recent expo in San Diego. And a vibrating machine that you stood on and rattled your bones all the way up to your cavities and beyond. I tried it and all is did to me was make my legs itch like hell for about ten minutes thereafter.
No return of those bowling ball pins though. I guess that will be next year's big attraction.
And possibly the return of bee-pollen and yogurt and vitamin E oil at full strength straight from a dark colored bottle.
Here's the latest version of those kettlebells mentioned above. They sell them to match the color of your eyeballs. I bought the red pair after a serious night in Las Vegas celebrating one week of no drinking.
NOT MM
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Now it'll be easier.
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No but I'll give a hint, might not help at all thou, I am sure he competed in the Mr.O at least once.
Tony Emmett?
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He's got an oversized head!
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Now it'll be easier.
Ben Herder.....would never have guessed
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Tony Emmett?
WHAT??? Come chick, you're old enough for this one!
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Ben Herder.....would never have guessed
Y I'll admit I don't think I would have guessed the headless pic!
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Bix, You mean MM's?? If so, .... YEA!
Back before Chick's time, they used to train with kettlebells and wooden pegs that looked identical to bowling alley pins. And they had a mechanical belt in the corner that you could put around your waist that would literally shake the shit out of you. And other places in every major city there was always a vibrating foot machine offering you a seat and a place to insert a nickel to make you tired feet come back to life.
Indian Clubs. Me mam told me all about using these way back when. Probably a finishing school exercise. :D
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Current pro.
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No way, Moosejay! I didn't know that about Roy H. Thanks for the update even though it's bad news. Is he back in the SF Bay Area?
Back to bodybuilders in the movies ..... Sextette? Starred Mae West and a group of bodybuilders as shown below..
Brian Abadie Weight-lifter
Ric Drasin ... Weight-lifter
Denny Gable Shot Putter
Reg Lewis ... Athlete
Jim Morris ... Weight-lifter
Kal Szkalak ... Athlete
Jim Tarleton Weight-lifter
Name each of the above who have spent time in prison and the reason why. Even Bob won't get this one, methinks.
And which of the above was of importance for designing a famous gym logo. Details.
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Bix, I can't ID either of those two guy either. But give me a second chance.
OK, Ben Herder?!~ I never even heard that name before. I must have been in a foxhole someplace that year.
Sorry, Ben!
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Current pro.
Looks like Bob Paris, but he's not current. Very young Jay?
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Bix, I can't ID either of those two guy either. But give me a second chance.
This should help you.
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Looks like Bob Paris, but he's not current. Very young Jay?
Not Jay
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Branch
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Branch
Yep, the elf ears give it away. ;D
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Branch
Yep
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Who and when?
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Name the model for this morphed photo?
Will bodybuilders ever reach this level?
If yes - by when?
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Name the model for this morphed photo? Atwood
Will bodybuilders ever reach this level? No
If yes - by when?
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No way, Moosejay! I didn't know that about Roy H. Thanks for the update even though it's bad news. Is he back in the SF Bay Area?
Back to bodybuilders in the movies ..... Sextette? Starred Mae West and a group of bodybuilders as shown below..
Brian Abadie Weight-lifter
Ric Drasin ... Weight-lifter
Denny Gable Shot Putter
Reg Lewis ... Athlete
Jim Morris ... Weight-lifter
Kal Szkalak ... Athlete
Jim Tarleton Weight-lifter
Name each of the above who have spent time in prison and the reason why. Even Bob won't get this one, methinks.
And which of the above was of importance for designing a famous gym logo. Details.
Stunt:
Here's one for you:
From that list, who is dead and who is currently a championship bicycle racer now?
Moosie
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And who LITERALLY fought Joe Weider in his office over ownership his photos? Same guy who tried to organize a bb union back in the late 70's.....
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Stunt:
Here's one for you:
From that list, who is dead and who is currently a championship bicycle racer now?
Moosie
Draisin=Gym Logo
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Yeah, he's 85 and still works out. After I saw Pumping Iron, I kind of got out of the weightlifting movements, and focused on bodybuilding. In fact I saw Pumping Iron for the first time when I was at York in 78. Grimek dropped me off at the theater but he wouldn't go in to see the movie. I asked him why he didn't want to see it and he said, "I don't want to watch those Weider boys." Obviously there was some bad blood between Hoffman, him and Joe Weider.
Chemist:
Glad to hear your father is still training at 85. I didn't see where you had revealed his name (and yours) anywhere in this thread so I won't either but your father was my inspiration to begin weight training as a skinny kid in the 1960's.
I was an assistant pro golfer at the time and weighed only about 145 pounds at 6'3". Hoping to gain some weight, I joined a gym called Holiday Spas (whose spokesman at the time was 'Arnold Strong'), but all the older pros ridiculed me and told me golfers should never lift weights. I found some stories and pictures of your father and was inspired to go ahead and train anyway, though for years I hid my growing muscles under big sweaters. Turns out, weight training only helped my golf and I have competed in both bodybuilding and golf ever since.
I remember seeing photos of you and your dad in some magazines about 10-12 years ago. You both looked great!
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Chemist:
Glad to hear your father is still training at 85. I didn't see where you had revealed his name (and yours) anywhere in this thread so I won't either but your father was my inspiration to begin weight training as a skinny kid in the 1960's.
I was an assistant pro golfer at the time and weighed only about 145 pounds at 6'3". Hoping to gain some weight, I joined a gym called Holiday Spas (whose spokesman at the time was 'Arnold Strong'), but all the older pros ridiculed me and told me golfers should never lift weights. I found some stories and pictures of your father and was inspired to go ahead and train anyway, though for years I hid my growing muscles under big sweaters. Turns out, weight training only helped my golf and I have competed in both bodybuilding and golf ever since.
I remember seeing photos of you and your dad in some magazines about 10-12 years ago. You both looked great!
Thank you. It's really nice to hear that story. Was "Arnold Strong" Schwarzenegger, since that's the name he used in his first movie, "Hercules in New York?" I haven't used my name for now, just kind of like to remain anonymous, the internet being what it is. Feel free to PM me. You've got a great memory to recall that article a while back on us. I'm still training hard but I haven't gone in any shows since about 1995. Just trying currently to hit a new peak in the next 3 months. I try to give myself little goals to motivate me to get in better shape. I put my dad through some pretty hard workouts and he still loves it. Have me or my father ever met you? Do you live in Florida?
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Chem, Congrats to you and your dad from me also. I actually have not bought a magazine since the early 80's so I can't figure out who you and your dad are, but I probably know you or know of you both. Once in a while I'll skim through one or more while they are on the news-stand.
I have to say that it's great to talk to some sensible people here who know and understand the sport of bodybuilding and what it takes to get on that stage.
Thanks, guys. And you lady contributors too!
Moose, you are correct on the Gold's Gym answer, but I got no idea of who on that list is a champion bicycler. My best guess would be Tarleton who is one of the guys who served some time in prison. Another hell of a good guy in my estimation who took the wrong turn back then. Anyone know how Jim is doing today?
And as far as "who has passed away", I have no idea but my GUESS would be Brian. Please let me know in your next post.
Regarding fighting with Joe over picture rights ..... I recall Robby's argument over Joe's use of his photo claiming Robby's body was actually his (or something similar to that). Is that the argument you are referring to?
We visited Joe's office a couple of time and had an enjoyable visit. Even helped him decide on the photo to use on the cover for the next issue. Both my nephews did a few cover shots and were featured in the magazine more than a couple of times.
WEB, Correct on the Atwood cartoon critter. Thanks for participating.
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Stunt:
Here's one for you:
From that list, who is dead and who is currently a championship bicycle racer now?
Moosie
Kal.
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Thanks, Moosejay. I did not know that. Can you tell us how he passed away?
Here's a great European BB previously discussed on this Board. Name him.....
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Thanks, Moosejay. I did not know that. Can you tell us how he passed away?
Here's a great European BB previously discussed on this Board. Name him.....
scheu
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Right, NJ. Thanks
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Name the nationally recognized, first female bodybuilder who trained with the pros at Gold's when it was in Santa Monica.... era - 1979.
Chick, if you submit the answer, please use initial of last name only. I know you know this one easily.
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Name the nationally recognized, first female bodybuilder who trained with the pros at Gold's when it was in Santa Monica.... era - 1979.
Chick, if you submit the answer, please use initial of last name only. I know you know this one easily.
Lisa Lyon
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Bix, You mean MM's?? If so, .... YEA!
Back before Chick's time, they used to train with kettlebells and wooden pegs that looked identical to bowling alley pins. And they had a mechanical belt in the corner that you could put around your waist that would literally shake the shit out of you. And other places in every major city there was always a vibrating foot machine offering you a seat and a place to insert a nickel to make you tired feet come back to life.
Now some of these contraptions are coming back. Kettlebells were a major attraction at the recent expo in San Diego. And a vibrating machine that you stood on and rattled your bones all the way up to your cavities and beyond. I tried it and all is did to me was make my legs itch like hell for about ten minutes thereafter.
No return of those bowling ball pins though. I guess that will be next year's big attraction.
And possibly the return of bee-pollen and yogurt and vitamin E oil at full strength straight from a dark colored bottle.
Here's the latest version of those kettlebells mentioned above. They sell them to match the color of your eyeballs. I bought the red pair after a serious night in Las Vegas celebrating one week of no drinking.
Damn...if i knew you were in town....I would have looked you up.
The vibrating thing is called a "Power Plate"
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Denny Gable died a few years ago from cardio vascular disease in his home state of Iowa
Kal Szkalak is now a champion bicycle racer...you can google his name and turn up some stuff about his cycling exploits
And Kal did tussle with Weider over his photos
Kal tried to start a bb union...when he did, Arnold and Franco were supposed to back him up...but then did not speak up when they said they would...no big surprise there
Robby has tried to sue over the use of the statue of his torso Weider commissioned...with Joe's head atop it.
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Yea, Moose! Once again you are correct. That is Ralph. In the early 60's he had a shaky, old, ramshackeled gym along the Pacific Coast Highway only steps away from the beach just a bit south of Oceanside, California.
Then he eventually packed it up and moved to Hilo, Hawaii and set up a gym there, competing once in a local NPC/IFBB event.
Then he moved back to the mainland and to the best of my knowledge, he became a Preacher.
This all happened within a period of 40 years or so.
Moose, how old are you to know all this ancient stuff?
Here's a tough question for ya. I ask because I forgot the name of this guy myself. Back around 1962/63 there was an exceptional bodybuilder for that time-period living and training in the San Diego area. Somehow he managed to cut a big slice in his leg while operating a chainsaw but eventually recovered. Do you recall this part of BB history and who he was?
ANother topic - (See photo below) Here's someone you might have met once or twice back then. I doubt that even Chick would remember him.
I don't know if anyone named Hugo Labra. Sorry if they already did. Hugo was one of the guys that inspired Danny Padilla.
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Max...I believe Hugo was also a good photographer...yes?
Moose
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Dave do you remember the old BB at Ray's gym. Francis Segura. I think he was over 70 but looked like he was in his 40's. He got an article in Life Magazine done on him by the same guy who did the article in Time on me and my show in Florida.
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Thanks, Moosejay. I did not know that. Can you tell us how he passed away?
Here's a great European BB previously discussed on this Board. Name him.....
Stunt:
Denny Gable passed away in July of 2000 at the age of 49 from coronary artery disease. He was at one time a training partner of Arnold, was seen in Pumping Iron, and annexed the Mr. Western America title in 1975.
Moose
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Name the model for this morphed photo?
Will bodybuilders ever reach this level?
If yes - by when?
Art Atwwod!!
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Yes, Tim...I think that's Art. And no, I hope they don't get like that!
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Some guys from my old gym back in Springfield Mass. where I`m from.
Anybody know them.................not you Bixster! :)
Chick did a contest with one of them.
Remember which one Bob?
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/artie%20prince.jpg)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/Pat%20Hayes%20beach.bmp.png)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/matt_dufresne.jpg)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/rich%20roy%20sc.jpg)
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Another couple of guys that trained in our gym that most should know.
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/King%20at%20CCG.jpg)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/acet%20bicep.jpg)
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Yes, Tim...I think that's Art. And no, I hope they don't get like that!
Art was almost that size in real life Mike!! LOL :)
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Art was almost that size in real life Mike!! LOL :)
Haha...as always, Tim, your words ring true, my friend.
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Some guys from my old gym back in Springfield Mass. where I`m from.
Anybody know them.................not you Bixster! :)
Chick did a contest with one of them.
Remember which one Bob?
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/artie%20prince.jpg)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/Pat%20Hayes%20beach.bmp.png)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/matt_dufresne.jpg)
(http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/tjwes/rich%20roy%20sc.jpg)
Okay:
Pat Hayes
Victor Terra
Richard Roy
Jeff King
Chris Aceto
Moose :)
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All right except Victor Terra.............Victor was from the Boston area.
Good job! :)
The guy you thought was Victor won the Teen America,USA,Mr. America,and overall NABBA Univers.
Anybody remember him.............strangel y enough,he is also a champion cyclist these days ala Kal Szkalak.
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Gotta be Matt Dufresne...did not know about the cycling! Shoulda known... I competed against Victor and looked like a tattoo on his pec! :)
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Time to name some of the ladies .....
Name two of the three in this photo. (Guys, pls no discouraging or foul remarks. They don't deserve that.)
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This athlete is a REAL CHAMPION in my humble opinion. More so than any other athlete I've met.
Some of you may know him and probably realize why.
Sometime this week, I'll post another photo showing just why I feel that way.
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Hmmm...where I am vg with the naming of men, I am perhaps equally bad naming the women......
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This athlete is a REAL CHAMPION in my humble opinion. More so than any other athlete I've met.
Some of you may know him and probably realize why.
Sometime this week, I'll post another photo showing just why I feel that way.
Hey Stunt...I agree with your thoughts on this fellow....not sure of his name, but I believe he is missing one lower extremity....
Mike
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Exactly, Mike, and since you state it correctly - here is a photo of this phenominal athlete on stage. I have no idea what contest this was, but I am totally impressed by what he accomplished ....
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One more shot ....
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Man, that;s great...I believe he won a trophy, too...glead they judged him fairly
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Here are a couple. The old guy is 87
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Here are a couple. The old guy is 87
Isn't that movie "Jesse James meets Frankensteins's Daughter"?
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Time to name some of the ladies .....
Name two of the three in this photo. (Guys, pls no discouraging or foul remarks. They don't deserve that.)
grandmother, mother, and daughter.
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grandmother, mother, and daughter.
Lol, that's what I was thinking.
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Thank you. It's really nice to hear that story. Was "Arnold Strong" Schwarzenegger, since that's the name he used in his first movie, "Hercules in New York?" I haven't used my name for now, just kind of like to remain anonymous, the internet being what it is. Feel free to PM me. You've got a great memory to recall that article a while back on us. I'm still training hard but I haven't gone in any shows since about 1995. Just trying currently to hit a new peak in the next 3 months. I try to give myself little goals to motivate me to get in better shape. I put my dad through some pretty hard workouts and he still loves it. Have me or my father ever met you? Do you live in Florida?
Arnold Strong was, of course, Arnold Schwarznegger. I did try to contact your dad once about 10 years ago. I will send you a PM.
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Here are a couple. The old guy is 87
Is the old guy Harold Zinkin, inventor of the Universal machine?
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Gotta be Matt Dufresne...did not know about the cycling! Shoulda known... I competed against Victor and looked like a tattoo on his pec! :)
Matt DuFresne it is !! :)
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Shot at the 2008 IronMan...... Easy one to name!
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Is the old guy Harold Zinkin, inventor of the Universal machine?
No sorry
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Name the youngest person to ever win the Mr America title. And his age at the time he won it.
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Name the youngest person to ever win the Mr America title. And his age at the time he won it.
Thats easy ;D
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Shot at the 2008 IronMan...... Easy one to name!
Rusty Jeffers
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Name the youngest person to ever win the Mr America title. And his age at the time he won it.
Casey Viator, 19 years old in 1971
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Correct with both answers, Moose.
Interesting Casey story when I return from Lake Tahoe.
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Casey Viator, 19 years old in 1971
Here`s a video of him doing it.
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Max...I believe Hugo was also a good photographer...yes?
Moose
Sorry Moose I don’t know anything about that. Could be true.
Dave do you remember the old BB at Ray's gym. Francis Segura. I think he was over 70 but looked like he was in his 40's. He got an article in Life Magazine done on him by the same guy who did the article in Time on me and my show in Florida.
Yes I remember Keith. Francis used to train at Disc Gym in old town Torrance before Ray’s.
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Correct with both answers, Moose.
Interesting Casey story when I return from Lake Tahoe.
Kool....look forward to it....
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No one should be able to guess these two ....
Stunt:
I missed this one:
Curt and Sharon Haywood
Curt took 3rd in the amateur division of the 1970 Mr. World; Arnold won the pro division that same evening.
Yes?
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I enjoy these threads. In the old days we read the magazines from cover to cover. Some of us could name a guy just by seeing a bodypart.
I think it is Dick Dubois in the middle with Reg Lewis and Irvin.
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I enjoy these threads. In the old days we read the magazines from cover to cover. Some of us could name a guy just by seeing a bodypart.
I think it is Dick Dubois in the middle with Reg Lewis and Irvin.
I think you are right. Agree on old mags...read them again and again...I don't ever buy them anymore
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Moose, I first met Curt when I was about 14 years old but I don't know if I was in Southern California or Northern Cal at the time.
Was Curt from the San Francisco Bay Area when he was a teenager?
If I'm not mistaken, he used to come up to the Russian River 72 miles north of San Francisco while he was a teenager.
Reeves spent some time up thataway also.
Rio Nido was the place to be in the 50's and every kid in the Bay Area spent at least a couple of summer weekends there.
Reeves, Eifferman, Haywood, Holvochik, Freeman, and many others who eventually made a BB name for themselves. (It must have been the water!)
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Stunt, I am unsure as to if Curt was from San Fran. I do know he became pretty good friends with Arnold, though.