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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Croatch on March 18, 2008, 07:51:41 PM
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
I was only using the 90's because it was my "light" day.......and for the record, I did not need your spot, just trying to be "cool". ::)
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does anyone want to take bets on whether or not these people actually exist or if croatch is just periodically writing these stories up in order to metaphorically jump up and down yelling "i'm natural! honest! for reals!!" in the hopes that eventually people will believe him?
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I was only using the 90's because it was my "light" day.......and for the record, I did not need your spot, just trying to be "cool". ::)
I'll be honest, nothing personal, but I really get tired of juicers...especially in Vegas. Almost nobody in this town can do much without their magic drug cycle, it's fucking pathetic. At least back East, many people had more heart and didn't rely on drugs. Sorry for keeping it real, but that's how it goes. I've been training natural for over 14 years and these clowns are a disgrace to what I do, which is bodybuilding.
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does anyone want to take bets on whether or not these people actually exist or if croatch is just periodically writing these stories up in order to metaphorically jump up and down yelling "i'm natural! honest! for reals!!" in the hopes that eventually people will believe him?
you have to admire him for not moving off subject for the last 3-4 yrs... ;)
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
::) ::)
Brutal attempt at copying squadfathers gym owning stories.....
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does anyone want to take bets on whether or not these people actually exist or if croatch is just periodically writing these stories up in order to metaphorically jump up and down yelling "i'm natural! honest! for reals!!" in the hopes that eventually people will believe him?
They exist in his head and thats all that counts right now. I am sure he will seek help soon. Maybe Candy Cane Jedi can help him. I think he wants to be a doctor next. And you can tell from his posts he used to use roids and they did absolutely nothing for him. He thought he could just take them without lifting and he would be the monster he wanted to be. It didn't work so now he hates anyone who has made gains or accomplishments using them. It s so obvious. But he is one funny fucker I give him that.
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where's the part when u owned him?
atleast that part was in your head ;D
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Does anyone think it's possible that someone who juices might also train as hard as they possibly can?
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
Jeezus....how fucking pathetic....to juice just so one can move the 90's for a handful of reps....
You should see the ones at my gym....can't even squat their own bodyweight....
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you have to admire him for not moving off subject for the last 3-4 yrs... ;)
At least he's consistent.....
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Does anyone think it's possible that someone who juices might also train as hard as they possibly can?
I completely agree. This has nothing to do with intensity, yet most people on/off or natural, don't train very hard....let alone diet. It's about do something yourself. If you take some glutamine/creatine and it gives you 3% of your overall mass, great, icing on the cake...you built. If you have 20-30lbs of bloat from drugs, well...that's just drugs, nothing more. I should wear a shirt that says, "Please, if you don't have the genetics for drugs, stop taking them." Then an "All Natural btw" on the back..haha
where's the part when u owned him?
atleast that part was in your head
My physique did the owning, which surpasses and amount of tough guy words. ;)
you have to admire him for not moving off subject for the last 3-4 yrs...
haha, I will not lie, it's a revolving door. I'm fine when I'm away from idiot juicers, which isn't for long, considering every gym has their share...especially any Gold's in Vegas.
does anyone want to take bets on whether or not these people actually exist or if croatch is just periodically writing these stories up in order to metaphorically jump up and down yelling "i'm natural! honest! for reals!!" in the hopes that eventually people will believe him?
Sorry, no. I actually own far more juicers, than the one mentioned. I think I'm up to 31,324 now. Man, the sheer mass of slaves I will have in the afterlife is staggering!
*If the Croatch dominates your physique and you juice, you will be his slave for 1000 years after you die. ;)
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I completely agree. This has nothing to do with intensity, yet most people on/off or natural, don't train very hard....let alone diet. It's about do something yourself. If you take some glutamine/creatine and it gives you 3% of your overall mass, great, icing on the cake...you built. If you have 20-30lbs of bloat from drugs, well...that's just drugs, nothing more. I should wear a shirt that says, "Please, if you don't have the genetics for drugs, stop taking them." Then an "All Natural btw" on the back..hahaMy physique did the owning, which surpasses and amount of tough guy words. ;)haha, I will not lie, it's a revolving door. I'm fine when I'm away from idiot juicers, which isn't for long, considering every gym has their share...especially any Gold's in Vegas. Sorry, no. I actually own far more juicers, than the one mentioned. I think I'm up to 31,324 now. Man, the sheer mass of slaves I will have in the afterlife is staggering!
*If the Croatch dominates your physique and you juice, you will be his slave for 1000 years after you die. ;)
Personally I have never used steroids, but I always train as hard as I can. If I did happen to use steroids I wouldn't change a single thing, I would still train just as hard. Yet I get the impression you would hold it against me just because I'm "juicing." You really need to clarify; are you hating on people who are lazy in the gym or are you hating on lazy juicers or are you hating on all juicers in general?
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
Great story and I know all too well that story LOL.
I bet he thinks that anyone as big or bigger than him is on a lot juice.
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Croach where is your reply, and also you juiced many years ago, that makes me superior to you ;D
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Croach where is your reply, and also you juiced many years ago, that makes me superior to you ;D
That would have to be voted on, but technically...you win. ;D
However, I did go from 150lbs to 210lbs lean ;)
I don't hate juicers by any means or lazy people. I simply despise them. They usually achieve a mere fraction of what I have in a gym and with using drugs, hahah, sad. The ones who are humble aren't so bad, usually not the case though. Still in the end, these guys usually accomplish very little on their own, realizing they don't have what it takes to make great gains drug free. So, when one of these "hardcore" guys walks around with his fake lats flared...yes, I shake my head at the douchebaggery before me.
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Guys with bad genetics usually look like crap off the sauce Croatch.......tragic ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204773.0;attach=238725;image)
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Guys with bad genetics usually look like crap off the sauce Croatch.......tragic ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204773.0;attach=238725;image)
Correction:
Guys with bad genetics usually look like crap offon or off the sauce Croatch.......tragic ;D
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where is the owning? ???
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Croatch, you talk about humility, but where's yours?
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That would have to be voted on, but technically...you win. ;D
However, I did go from 150lbs to 210lbs lean ;)
I don't hate juicers by any means or lazy people. I simply despise them. They usually achieve a mere fraction of what I have in a gym and with using drugs, hahah, sad. The ones who are humble aren't so bad, usually not the case though. Still in the end, these guys usually accomplish very little on their own, realizing they don't have what it takes to make great gains drug free. So, when one of these "hardcore" guys walks around with his fake lats flared...yes, I shake my head at the douchebaggery before me.
Don't hate. Your scared of needles its o.k. I'm sure you are the strongest natural bodybuilder alive, good work.
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i'd also like to know where croatch lifts. see, where -i- lift, a great deal of the juiced guys are absolute monsters. there's the guy who's about 210 at 5'9" (ALL upper body) that i've seen bench 405 for a good set of 8. there's the guy who rows 4 plates only because he tore his bicep rowing 455. or the guy who knocks 315 around on seated militaries. oh hey, or the guy i saw deadlift six plates for a set of 7.
but no, croatch just lifts in that magical gym where he is bigger and stronger than literally everyone else, and the juicers are all people weaker than him. fuck, if he lifts somewhere where the juicers are inclining 90's for five i'd be an absolute god there. and here i am wasting my time at a place where i'm just at the upper end of the middle third. how stupid of me. ::)
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i'd also like to know where croatch lifts. see, where -i- lift, a great deal of the juiced guys are absolute monsters. there's the guy who's about 210 at 5'9" (ALL upper body) that i've seen bench 405 for a good set of 8. there's the guy who rows 4 plates only because he tore his bicep rowing 455. or the guy who knocks 315 around on seated militaries. oh hey, or the guy i saw deadlift six plates for a set of 7.
but no, croatch just lifts in that magical gym where he is bigger and stronger than literally everyone else, and the juicers are all people weaker than him. fuck, if he lifts somewhere where the juicers are inclining 90's for five i'd be an absolute god there. and here i am wasting my time at a place where i'm just at the upper end of the middle third. how stupid of me. ::)
Damn, Magoo, at least leave "croatch" with some dignity. ;D
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Damn, Magoo, at least leave "croatch" with some dignity. ;D
if i really felt like making him feel stupid i'd point out that this has been his avatar for a while now. :D
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if i really felt like making him feel stupid i'd point out that this has been his avatar for a while now. :D
;D
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::) ::)
Brutal attempt at copying squadfathers gym owning stories.....
You're right, of course, but that's not the point.
The point is, I didn't ask for your opinion. Until I do, you need to STFU.
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if i really felt like making him feel stupid i'd point out that this has been his avatar for a while now. :D
croatch will have a massive meltdown if you call him names like stupid, idiot, dumb, or moron
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if u truly accepted what god has given u, u would be eating and drinking very minimal, yet as trainers, we must eat and drink more to put on muscle mass. therefore, even as a natty, ur not accepting what 'god' has given u, because ur eating and drinking more than what is required to stay in homeostasis.
taking steroids is just like eating more food - except u get the gains faster and can make a better (in some cases) physique than if u were just on food and water.
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croatch will have a massive meltdown if you call him names like stupid, idiot, dumb, or moron
As long as you don't calll him Sean Rey...... now that would cause a meltdown.
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
What you have failed to notice is that you're actually the assclown with ILS struting through the gym acting all badass ::)
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where is the owning? ???
his post. He owned himself by posting this delusion.
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cool story Croatch, i saw some dude in my gym yesterday who was working out in his Nurse scrub-in gear, was kind of embarassing for him i felt.
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http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=OEALSUO&sid=BR
Croatch, are you interested in this woman?
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cool story Croatch, i saw some dude in my gym yesterday who was working out in his Nurse scrub-in gear, was kind of embarassing for him i felt.
yea haha, that was awesome ::)
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Is Croatch the guy with those two very cool videos where he calls the guy " sweetheart".
The Beef
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his post. He owned himself by posting this delusion.
lol
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
hahah straight in to gymstories.com
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where is the owning? ???
Did you manage to read his story?
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who needs juice when you can grow bitchtits naturally like crotch.
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Did you manage to read his story?
unfortunately, yes i did.
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Croatch= God among men
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
why didnt you simply refuse to spot him and say him "eeer..no thanks i'm busy" if you despise him so much?
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yea haha, that was awesome ::)
another worthless comment
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I'll be honest, nothing personal, but I really get tired of juicers...especially in Vegas. Almost nobody in this town can do much without their magic drug cycle, it's fucking pathetic. At least back East, many people had more heart and didn't rely on drugs. Sorry for keeping it real, but that's how it goes. I've been training natural for over 14 years and these clowns are a disgrace to what I do, which is bodybuilding.
Croatch, you should check out Las Vegas Athletic Clubs. I'm taking it that if the club is "NEW" it is either a golds or an Anytime Fitness. The Henderson LVAC has tons of hot burlesque dancer chicks, and a terrific line of machines. I live in Summerlin, and I'll drive the half hour on the weekends out there just because the vibe and equipment is better.
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Croatch, you should check out Las Vegas Athletic Clubs. I'm taking it that if the club is "NEW" it is either a golds or an Anytime Fitness. The Henderson LVAC has tons of hot burlesque dancer chicks, and a terrific line of machines. I live in Summerlin, and I'll drive the half hour on the weekends out there just because the vibe and equipment is better.
JAY LIVES THERE TOO!!!
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JAY LIVES THERE TOO!!!
I know, I see him at Whole Foods every once in a while. He trains at Golds on Sahara 2x a day.
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I know, I see him at Whole Foods every once in a while. He trains at Golds on Sahara 2x a day.
Do people stare at him? Have you spoken to him before?
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Let me get this straight. Giving someone a spot is now considered an 'pwning!?' Dear oh dear. Standards are slipping. Somebody think of the children.
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Croatch ..are you the guy with the kinda manic laugh?
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You're right, of course, but that's not the point.
The point is, I didn't ask for your opinion. Until I do, you need to STFU.
I apologize to you and your man breast ;)
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What you have failed to notice is that you're actually the assclown with ILS struting through the gym acting all badass ::)
No ILS, and I don't act like a bad ass, I am one. When you gain 50+ pounds of lean mass, you too, will be a certified bad ass. ;) This comes packaged with the "badass gym stare", something that has taken me years to perfect.
Croatch, you should check out Las Vegas Athletic Clubs. I'm taking it that if the club is "NEW" it is either a golds or an Anytime Fitness. The Henderson LVAC has tons of hot burlesque dancer chicks, and a terrific line of machines. I live in Summerlin, and I'll drive the half hour on the weekends out there just because the vibe and equipment is better.
Those places are horrid. It's like working out on a cruise ship, where everyone thinks it's a fashion show/social club. They will actually toss you out for dropping weights to loudly. Overcrowded and some serious douchebag owners. I don't think you drive the 30 minutes for the "vibe", but for that other thing called....vagina. ;) At least with Gold's, always clean, well run, good people who work there.
but no, croatch just lifts in that magical gym where he is bigger and stronger than literally everyone else, and the juicers are all people weaker than him. fuck, if he lifts somewhere where the juicers are inclining 90's for five i'd be an absolute god there. and here i am wasting my time at a place where i'm just at the upper end of the middle third. how stupid of me.
I have to agree with you there. I workout in this imaginary gym called Gold's in a fake city called Las Vegas. Make believe people train there like Gustavo Badell, Quincy Taylor, and Cormier. ::) Epic Insight buddy
I never claimed to be the biggest/strongest guy in the gym...ever actually. I simply state I own 90% of people on juice I see...or in general. Physique/bodybuilding wise, not strength, but yes, usually strength too. If you know anything about bodybuilding, you know steroids don't equal genetics for bodybuilding. Reread until you understand this.
Thanks
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;D
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So he is 18 inch arms guy with a slightly demented laugh!
Impressive for a lifetime natty.
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Wait, so you made no expression, said nothing to him, and then spotted him?
PWNED!!!!!!!
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
;D ;D ;D
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So he is 18 inch arms guy with a slightly demented laugh!
Impressive for a lifetime natty.
Not lifetime, I ruined my status when I pumped myself full of imitator juice back in 94' for 2 months. :-[ Damn!
I did gain everything from 150-220 naturally.
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Wait, so you made no expression, said nothing to him, and then spotted him?
PWNED!!!!!!!
You need to help guys like this out. This is why they usually can't even enter a gym without the aid of some drugs. I feel bad for them, so the Croatch helps when he can. Again, I'm glad I didn't have my natural shirt on, this guy would have made a B line to the locker room to shoot himself. Close one. ;)
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you pretend to be a badass but yet people force you to spot em and you are scared to say "no"? why dont you just ignore em or make fun of em if you are so badass?
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you pretend to be a badass but yet people force you to spot em and you are scared to say "non"? why dont you just ignore em or make fun of em if you are so badass?
translation you must be the "guy" Croatch was talking about.
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you pretend to be a badass but yet people force you to spot em and you are scared to say "no"? why dont you just ignore em or make fun of em if you are so badass?
Have you read this thead? People who take steroids need help to achieve something in a gym, I don't. When you outweigh a guy by 20lbs naturally and he's on gear...plus you're more lean, the least you can do is give him a spot. Though I despise some assclown living in the land of delusion, I kind of feel bad for them at the same time.
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HAHAHAHAH That was hilarious ;D
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Croatch, while you were spotting that beast in your gym, did you provide words of encouragement like
"c'mon, light weight baby" . . . "all you brother" . . . "c'mon one more rep" . . . ?
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If people here spent half the time worrying about their own training and physique there might be some big mofo's on getbig
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you pretend to be a badass but yet people force you to spot em and you are scared to say "no"? why dont you just ignore em or make fun of em if you are so badass?
why dont you post under your regular screen name Fat Alex ? ???
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Have you read this thead? People who take steroids need help to achieve something in a gym, I don't. When you outweigh a guy by 20lbs naturally and he's on gear...plus you're more lean, the least you can do is give him a spot. Though I despise some assclown living in the land of delusion, I kind of feel bad for them at the same time.
i think you're just too scared of having any troubles with anyone that's why you gently bend over em when they ask you something, because as big as you are, you re a scared little child with a big heart haha.
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I walk into a new gym in Vegas and see this steroid BEAST right next to me. This guy had it all, ILS, brutal zit shoulders, bloat face, and yes, "fierce" genetics. Aside from having a better overall shape, I outweighed him by 20lbs and more lean. He gives me a nod...like we're in this together, doing the same thing and all...sadly mistaken. I'm expressionless as usual and proceed to start my chest routine. A few sets in, Mr. Steroid Badass asks me for a spot. It's not enough this clown needs a few shots of test, just to look mediocre at best, but he interrupts my workout to better his own brutal chest development. I spotted him on his "hardcore" set of 90lbs dumbells on incline for 5 or so.
I couldn't help but think, I sure am glad I didn't wear my Natural Bodybuilding shirt. This guy would have probably ran to the men's room and ended his sorry existence, seeing how beneath the Croatch he was...yet taking a ton of shit.
You can't replace work ethic or genetics with a shot. Accept what God has given you and make it the best you can on your own. At the end of the day, at least you'll get some respect and probably have a greater sense of accomplishment.
Good luck all. ;)
do you own someone based purely on how you look or how strong you are
or are you simply overprojecting your own insecurities
are you that shallow or just delusional
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do you own someone based purely on how you look or how strong you are
or are you simply overprojecting your own insecurities
are you that shallow or just delusional
I think he s unconsciously seeking for help exposing all his obvious insecurities on here.
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why dont you post under your regular screen name Fat Alex ? ???
Is frenchfrie really Alex23 ???
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Is frenchfrie really Alex23 ???
Damn I ve been acused of being sarcasm , now alex23? WTF ?
I'm french dudes !
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Good, but the " sweet heart " vids are better.
The Beef wants to see more along that line.
The Beef
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I'll be honest, nothing personal, but I really get tired of juicers...especially in Vegas. Almost nobody in this town can do much without their magic drug cycle, it's fucking pathetic. At least back East, many people had more heart and didn't rely on drugs. Sorry for keeping it real, but that's how it goes. I've been training natural for over 14 years and these clowns are a disgrace to what I do, which is bodybuilding.
Why are you so insecure? I am a natty who is sorrounded by juicers and i am ok. They all respect me for being natural.
None of them treat me bad. They are how they are. I am how i am. Whats the problem?
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Have you read this thead? People who take steroids need help to achieve something in a gym, I don't. When you outweigh a guy by 20lbs naturally and he's on gear...plus you're more lean, the least you can do is give him a spot. Though I despise some assclown living in the land of delusion, I kind of feel bad for them at the same time.
I'm natural now, do you despise/feel bad for me still?
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I'll be honest, nothing personal, but I really get tired of juicers...especially in Vegas. Almost nobody in this town can do much without their magic drug cycle, it's fucking pathetic. At least back East, many people had more heart and didn't rely on drugs. Sorry for keeping it real, but that's how it goes. I've been training natural for over 14 years and these clowns are a disgrace to what I do, which is bodybuilding.
The way you get tired of "juicers" maybe they get tired of you being nosey on what they do with their own business and you preaching.
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I have to agree with you there. I workout in this imaginary gym called Gold's in a fake city called Las Vegas. Make believe people train there like Gustavo Badell, Quincy Taylor, and Cormier. ::) Epic Insight buddy
I never claimed to be the biggest/strongest guy in the gym...ever actually. I simply state I own 90% of people on juice I see...or in general. Physique/bodybuilding wise, not strength, but yes, usually strength too. If you know anything about bodybuilding, you know steroids don't equal genetics for bodybuilding. Reread until you understand this.
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then you lift at a pretty piss-poor gym. or you're a bullshitter. if you're 210 and "own" 90% of the lifters at your gym including the guys on gear, there is a binary choice: your gym sucks or you're delusional. now, you say you lift at a gold's in vegas where IFBB pros lift, so that seems to knock out the first choice...
listen man. i'm 235 pounds and my pictures/videos/log are public, so you can see where my strength ranks. i lift either at a school gym or a YMCA in a nowhere town and i still won't say i "own" 90% of lifters, ESPECIALLY not if i include the juicers.
even giving you the benefit of the doubt, we can read that you're in good shape but severely resentful of the people twice your size on gear so you come on here after being shamed by a guy with backne who inclined the 150s for 10, so you came on here and made up a story to make yourself feel better. that's a best case scenario conclusion.
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then you lift at a pretty piss-poor gym. or you're a bullshitter. if you're 210 and "own" 90% of the lifters at your gym including the guys on gear, there is a binary choice: your gym sucks or you're delusional. now, you say you lift at a gold's in vegas where IFBB pros lift, so that seems to knock out the first choice...
listen man. i'm 235 pounds and my pictures/videos/log are public, so you can see where my strength ranks. i lift either at a school gym or a YMCA in a nowhere town and i still won't say i "own" 90% of lifters, ESPECIALLY not if i include the juicers.
even giving you the benefit of the doubt, we can read that you're in good shape but severely resentful of the people twice your size on gear so you come on here after being shamed by a guy with backne who inclined the 150s for 10, so you came on here and made up a story to make yourself feel better. that's a best case scenario conclusion.
Links..
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Haha - Croatch's video's are funny as fuck! ;D
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Links..
look in the training logs section. i've got the following on video: snatching 100 and 110 pound DBs, close-gripping 315x2 plus help on a 3rd, benching 225x21 and help on a 22nd, deadlifting 225 for 30 with no rest on the floor, 50 with rest. additionally i've hit 325x3 benched with a pause, squatted 440 below parallel, 455 off a just below parallel box and 405 + double-cinched purples off that same box, and deadlifted 515 all weighing around 230 or a touch under.
i'm nothing astronomical. in fact i rarely call myself anything beyond "decently respectable". my point was just that if there are juicers inclining what's a warmup for me, i'd apparently be a god there. but i heavily doubt that to be the case since even up in the appalachians i'm not near the top, so the odds of someone like croatch "owning" 90% of the gym patrons is somewhere between no way and no fucking way.
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Those are very good lifts for your BW, Magoo. Def lifts to be proud of.
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Damn, Magoo, at least leave "croatch" with some dignity. ;D
i have to agree here, i've been in gyms where 90's for inclines is laughable at best, if you're loaded on juice there is no reason you shouldn't be inclining less than 150 pound dumbells or 315 on barbell inclines.
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Theres so many boards here, that I didnt even know we had a training board... ;D
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Eh, who cares about who uses or doesn't? I've never used and I've made size and strength gains. I've met naturals with more muscle and far better quality than me. I've met heavy users a lot smaller than me. Point is, whether they used or not I only cared about what I was doing. I haven't the time or energy to waste on worrying about others.
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Eh, who cares about who uses or doesn't? I've never used and I've made size and strength gains. I've met naturals with more muscle and far better quality than me. I've met heavy users a lot smaller than me. Point is, whether they used or not I only cared about what I was doing. I haven't the time or energy to waste on worrying about others.
careful there, MoS. you're almost sounding like an adult, and that kind of shenanigans has no place around here.
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careful there, MoS. you're almost sounding like an adult, and that kind of shenanigans has no place around here.
AHAHAAH!!! Shit, my bad!!
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I'm natural now, do you despise/feel bad for me still?
Good job. Be careful though, no magic pills when things get difficult. ;) See if you can put on 10lbs of lean mass naturally in a year. There's a real challenge. Remember, and douchebag can buy some dbol and bloat up 20lbs....anyone.
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then you lift at a pretty piss-poor gym. or you're a bullshitter. if you're 210 and "own" 90% of the lifters at your gym including the guys on gear, there is a binary choice: your gym sucks or you're delusional. now, you say you lift at a gold's in vegas where IFBB pros lift, so that seems to knock out the first choice...
listen man. i'm 235 pounds and my pictures/videos/log are public, so you can see where my strength ranks. i lift either at a school gym or a YMCA in a nowhere town and i still won't say i "own" 90% of lifters, ESPECIALLY not if i include the juicers.
even giving you the benefit of the doubt, we can read that you're in good shape but severely resentful of the people twice your size on gear so you come on here after being shamed by a guy with backne who inclined the 150s for 10, so you came on here and made up a story to make yourself feel better. that's a best case scenario conclusion.
No, you're way off. ;) If some guy benches a ton or squats a lot, I say to myself, "Damn, I'm pretty weak." Knowing juice adds roughly 30% to your strength gains, if someone is repping 5 plates, I don't say, "Oh, that's all gear." I'm realistic with where I am physically and where others fall. You may be confusing my statements for actual strength, not a bodybuilding physique. Look around you, not many have good genetics for bodybuilding. If someone is in the gym, doing their best, lifting no weight, looks...so so...I NEVER mock them....why? because they are achieving things on their own. I have more respect for the fat guy on the stairmaster, than the leaned out drug user. It's just how I am.
Eh, who cares about who uses or doesn't? I've never used and I've made size and strength gains. I've met naturals with more muscle and far better quality than me. I've met heavy users a lot smaller than me. Point is, whether they used or not I only cared about what I was doing. I haven't the time or energy to waste on worrying about others.
That's a good philosophy, but not mine. ;)
Why are you so insecure? I am a natty who is sorrounded by juicers and i am ok. They all respect me for being natural.
None of them treat me bad. They are how they are. I am how i am. Whats the problem?
I'm plenty secure. Maybe if others were, fewer would need drugs to show up and train. ;)
The whole "can't we all just get along" "live and let live"Rodney King rhetoric is great, but I don't subscribe to that shit. :D Yes, everyone does their own thing and when it comes to activities I'm not involved in, I could care less. When it comes to something I put effort into, I'm insulted at the cheesers this sport attracts. People in general are weak minded, so they lack the discipline or faith in themselves to achieve anything naturally.
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They exist in his head and thats all that counts right now. I am sure he will seek help soon. Maybe Candy Cane Jedi can help him. I think he wants to be a doctor next. And you can tell from his posts he used to use roids and they did absolutely nothing for him. He thought he could just take them without lifting and he would be the monster he wanted to be. It didn't work so now he hates anyone who has made gains or accomplishments using them. It s so obvious. But he is one funny fucker I give him that.
Have you lost any weight yet?
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Quote from: onlyme on March 18, 2008, 08:28:50 PM
They exist in his head and thats all that counts right now. I am sure he will seek help soon. Maybe Candy Cane Jedi can help him. I think he wants to be a doctor next. And you can tell from his posts he used to use roids and they did absolutely nothing for him. He thought he could just take them without lifting and he would be the monster he wanted to be. It didn't work so now he hates anyone who has made gains or accomplishments using them. It s so obvious. But he is one funny fucker I give him that.
I only gained about 35lbs in the 2 months I took steroids in 1994. ::) That was with a shitty diet, decent training, no knowledge on what to take with what, etc.
If anything, I know how pathetically EASY it is to gain on drugs, hence me mocking clowns who don't come close to someone who is natural. I don't know how much I'd gain now, having a slower metabolism, much better diet, train harder? I don't care to either. Those gains mean nothing, just garbage. ;) Unless, you're competing for an Olympia title, it's for people who can't hack it....there's reality for you.
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I only gained about 35lbs in the 2 months I took steroids in 1994. ::) That was with a shitty diet, decent training, no knowledge on what to take with what, etc.
If anything, I know how pathetically EASY it is to gain on drugs, hence me mocking clowns who don't come close to someone who is natural. I don't know how much I'd gain now, having a slower metabolism, much better diet, train harder? I don't care to either. Those gains mean nothing, just garbage. ;) Unless, you're competing for an Olympia title, it's for people who can't hack it....there's reality for you.
he wasnt talking to you but to onlyme...
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he wasnt talking to you but to onlyme...
I know, I was referring to the quote above. Fixed.
It's funny though, you'll never hear me knock someone's physique for being fat either...haha
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Have you lost any weight yet?
Can it with the fat jokes, skinny. Onlyme did his time on that and put up with the shit. Move on, dipshit. It's 2008 already.
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so is the lesson of this thread still "croatch feels inadequate because people in his real life aren't falling over themselves praising him so he has to make up for it with stupid threads on getbig" or have there been any new developments?
i really don't mind when people say things i disagree with, but when it's the same damn thing... for years on end... it's absurd.
croatch, your very first thread on here was a picture of you before you started lifting and after, this had to have been 2005 or earlier. it wasn't just "hey look at how well i've done", but rather from the moment you got on getbig you were asking if we thought you used gear to put on size.
why do i bring that up? because it teaches us two things:
1) the amount of personal worth you place in being natural borders on the disturbing. i'm starting to wonder if you need counseling.
2) you have not changed since then. when you first showed up it was a 160 to 210 change. three or four years later you're still 210. rather peculiar, that.
me, i don't give a shit who uses what, only how hard they work. if someone is on gear and slacks, that's hilariously stupid. but if you use gear and bust your ass in the gym, more power to ya. to use the croatch hypothetical, i have more respect for a juicer who puts six hours in the gym every week and gives 100% than a fat guy who hops on a treadmill a few times a week and then drives to burger king.
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so is the lesson of this thread still "croatch feels inadequate because people in his real life aren't falling over themselves praising him so he has to make up for it with stupid threads on getbig" or have there been any new developments?
i really don't mind when people say things i disagree with, but when it's the same damn thing... for years on end... it's absurd.
croatch, your very first thread on here was a picture of you before you started lifting and after, this had to have been 2005 or earlier. it wasn't just "hey look at how well i've done", but rather from the moment you got on getbig you were asking if we thought you used gear to put on size.
why do i bring that up? because it teaches us two things:
1) the amount of personal worth you place in being natural borders on the disturbing. i'm starting to wonder if you need counseling.
2) you have not changed since then. when you first showed up it was a 160 to 210 change. three or four years later you're still 210. rather peculiar, that.
me, i don't give a shit who uses what, only how hard they work. if someone is on gear and slacks, that's hilariously stupid. but if you use gear and bust your ass in the gym, more power to ya. to use the croatch hypothetical, i have more respect for a juicer who puts six hours in the gym every week and gives 100% than a fat guy who hops on a treadmill a few times a week and then drives to burger king.
Thanks doctor, what do I owe you for that session?
My weight has been up to 225lbs in 2005. The picture was 2003. I'm about 210 now. Your body composition changes during that time, but you're only going to increase roughly 3lbs lean mass per year of natural training. I actually weighed 15lbs more 3 years ago. :D To get above 210 @ 4% may never happen, but that's ok. The 50lbs gained my first year back training, is very simple...muscle memory, radical diet change. Try eating few poor calories for a while, then go to 6 good meals per day.
i really don't mind when people say things i disagree with, but when it's the same damn thing... for years on end... it's absurd.
I'll agree with you there. It's also absurd that people pretend to be a bodybuilder, pretending through drug use.
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I'm plenty secure. Maybe if others were, fewer would need drugs to show up and train. ;)
The whole "can't we all just get along" "live and let live"Rodney King rhetoric is great, but I don't subscribe to that shit. :D Yes, everyone does their own thing and when it comes to activities I'm not involved in, I could care less. When it comes to something I put effort into, I'm insulted at the cheesers this sport attracts. People in general are weak minded, so they lack the discipline or faith in themselves to achieve anything naturally.
Then why dont you leave them alone who attack you. They are insecure and regard you as a menace. Thats why they attack you dont they?This means that you have already owned them. So, leave them alone.
Or,if you feel mercy for them and want to educate them to make them positive,show them what you have with battling out in some contests with your natty body like me.
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Then why dont you leave them alone who attack you. They are insecure and regard you as a menace. Thats why they attack you dont they?This means that you have already owned them. So, leave them alone.
Or,if you feel mercy for them and want to educate them to make them positive,show them what you have with battling out in some contests with your natty body like me.
Pull your pants up, naughty boy.
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Pull your pants up, naughty boy.
Sorry dad ;D
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Then why dont you leave them alone who attack you. They are insecure and regard you as a menace. Thats why they attack you dont they?This means that you have already owned them. So, leave them alone.
Or,if you feel mercy for them and want to educate them to make them positive,show them what you have with battling out in some contests with your natty body like me.
If someone else has a good physique naturally, I give them credit. Considering you attained that with no drugs, nice job. I'm not trying to win Mr. Natural USA. You're missing the point, real bodybuilding has nothing to do with drug use. That's the sad thing most juicers miss. Never attaining it by themselves. ;) Also, I like people to know they're roid gains are shit...9 out of 10 times. You never see me put down someone who does the best with their genetics...naturally. Much like the fatbody on the stairmaster, I have more respect for the guy who breaks his ass to attain 170lbs natural. It's takes more heart to rely only on yourself. In society, people are very weak minded and doubt their ability. Steroids, are a great crutch for these types.
Good work on your physique.
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If someone else has a good physique naturally, I give them credit. Considering you attained that with no drugs, nice job. I'm not trying to win Mr. Natural USA. You're missing the point, real bodybuilding has nothing to do with drug use. That's the sad thing most juicers miss. Never attaining it by themselves. ;) Also, I like people to know they're roid gains are shit...9 out of 10 times. You never see me put down someone who does the best with their genetics...naturally. Much like the fatbody on the stairmaster, I have more respect for the guy who breaks his ass to attain 170lbs natural. It's takes more heart to rely only on yourself. In society, people are very weak minded and doubt their ability. Steroids, are a great crutch for these types.
Good work on your physique.
Thanx about my physique.
This time, I dont battle out against naturals but juicers!I am the only natural there. I am not sick and tired at juicers but I am sick and tired THOSE NEGATIVES who believe juicing is the easy way to surpass naturals! I just wanted to show those people that even juicers have to work hard to beat natty like me. My trainer is 3rd place in World amateur championship IFBB 2007 and he is really agreed with me.
I explain to you.Why I think like that. I was attending to those show every year and always thought.."Do they train their legs??They dont train their legs and juice a lot? I can beat them..". So even if you use juice,you cant win against me if you dont do any homeworks as a bber.
So its like this. In the battle of sword,you try to kill your enemy with knife. If they train very well,you will never ever win against those long sword.
BUT,If you train to use your knife like super soldier and your enemies are like obese and fat and even they cant carry their sword.Still you lose against them?
One of the reason why i dont hate juicers is there. They train their sword a lot to beat another sword. Thats it. Anyway you need hard work to be good even if you use roid. Natural and juicers difference is like using knife or using sword. If you are really good at using knife,you can beat those average sword users.
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so croatch needs therapy and kyomu looks excellent.
i think that we can shut this thread down, that's the take-home message.
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Every few months Zacharias puts down his top bears penis long enough to absolutely dominate a thread in hilarious antics. This is such a thread.
Croatch is probably bitter that his body doesn't respond well to gear.
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Croatch, your rebuttals are littered with contradiction.
In your words your saying a guy with kick ass genetics such as Dennis Wolf is shit in your book but that lazy, no self respect, lard filled ass on the stairmaster is your idol?
Oh no, now I know that's not what you said but as often as you twist your answers around I figured I might as well too.
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Every few months Zacharias puts down his top bears penis long enough to absolutely dominate a thread in hilarious antics. This is such a thread.
Croatch is probably bitter that his body doesn't respond well to gear.
hey, sometimes he gets chafed and needs time to recover. that gives me a little window to hop on getbig and do some posting.
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so croatch needs therapy and kyomu looks excellent.
i think that we can shut this thread down, that's the take-home message.
haha ;D I'm glad someone is getting the point.
Every few months Zacharias puts down his top bears penis long enough to absolutely dominate a thread in hilarious antics. This is such a thread.
Croatch is probably bitter that his body doesn't respond well to gear.
Yeah, 35lbs in 2 months on sauce...I'd say that's a "poor" respsone. ::) Probably a lot of bloat, but still...that's with a regular person diet and being 18 at the time, knowing nothing about gear. I'm not sure how much I'd gain today, seeing I know how to diet, train harder, slower metabolism...maybe 400lbs and shredded @5' 8"? What do you think? ;D
With gear involved, I'd probably be @240lbs lean...still 5' 8". Of course, on my blocky frame, I wouldn't have a 28" waist, etc...but overall size and leaness, sure. I have zero desire to be a pretender though, I'd rather stick to being @210lbs without using imitation serum.
Also, I can't imagine being a grown adult lying to people about it's my "hardcore dedication" only, that gets me my gains. Whenever the topic of roids comes up, I try to keep from spewing on random people about how few can do much naturally, etc. In general, most people don't give a shit..haha I would just feel like a clown having no integrity in who I was. Consider how many lie about roid use...on the forum though, everyone is up front and promotes gear..haha Not in real life though, they'd be laughed at and thought of as cheaters and drug addicts. That's just how it is.
We post on a forum where maybe 35% of the people juice themselves, so of course, opinions are jaded. Talk to any average person and they'll think steroid users are douchebag meatheads and that's the only reason they're big (not always true). I remember watching a Ronnie Coleman video once and this group of people came in and began to watch it. The general conception was, "What a fucking idiot. This guy can't even speak. I wonder how many drugs he takes." So, even though he has a great physique, juicers really hurt the bodybuilding image, whether you realize it or not.
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croatch, all flames aside, there's a few things you need to remember.
1) the reason people lie about it is because it's illegal and people need to keep their asses covered. ever notice no one kept it quiet when they used OTC pro-hormones, even the real strong ones like m1t and such? it's not because they're ashamed, it's because they want to keep safe.
2) you can't use ronnie coleman as an example, you gotta use, for example, pro wrestlers or strongman competitors. i know tons of people who agree that they use steroids, but also laugh and say "dude i could take that shit all day every day and never get that strong". ronnie coleman looks bad because he IS a bag of chemicals and engages in a non-performance activity. it's a "sport" of vanity.
i don't use either, but i have zero problems with those who do as long as they give it their all. it doesn't add to or subtract from my opinion of them. i don't think they're "more dedicated" for using, nor do i call them cheaters (it's not "cheating" if you're at a point impossible for a natural). i call those who use steroids to make up for dedication idiots, but that's a different story altogether.
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i cant believe we're still debating that steroids are 'bad' and naturals are 'better than juicers.' lol give me a break
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i cant believe we're still debating that steroids are 'bad' and naturals are 'better than juicers.' lol give me a break
Steroids aren't bad or immoral. And naturals are not better than juicers. Steroids are the consolation prize for people who can't achieve much naturally. There are some exceptions, but very few.
The end.
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Steroids aren't bad or immoral. And naturals are not better than juicers. Steroids are the consolation prize for people who can't achieve much naturally. There are some exceptions, but very few.
The end.
But they can achieve much naturally.. A person who's reached his potential has much to gain from ASS in the from of vanity, attention, self confidence and much more. Isn't that why most people hit the weights in the first place? Same goes for people taking the short route. What you have to understand is that it's not about achievement for most, but about tackling insecurity, wanting acceptance, or filling some other void in life.
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croatch, camel jockey, valid points but every single person has a different reason for wanting to stay natty or hit the juice. achieving something IN bbing IS vanity, because it's a sport dedicated to how u look. nothing wrong with that at all. juice just makes it easier and faster for most, but that's not to say they couldnt have done well with their own genetics, but it would be nowhere near what they can achieve on juice. isnt it about being the best u can be? thats what i thought..
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croatch, camel jockey, valid points but every single person has a different reason for wanting to stay natty or hit the juice. achieving something IN bbing IS vanity, because it's a sport dedicated to how u look. nothing wrong with that at all. juice just makes it easier and faster for most, but that's not to say they couldnt have done well with their own genetics, but it would be nowhere near what they can achieve on juice. isnt it about being the best u can be? thats what i thought..
Great point.. You'll never look as good naturally compared to when you're on teh juice.
Most people on juice aren't mass monsters, and have no intention to be like that. They just want to be above average..
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Steroids aren't bad or immoral. And naturals are not better than juicers. Steroids are the consolation prize for people who can't achieve much naturally. There are some exceptions, but very few.
The end.
this is what insecure people say to make themselves feel better when they see juicers bigger than them. "well if he was natural i'd be bigger than him!!" no better than skinny people who say of powerlifters "if he dieted down he'd be 150 pounds with 13 inch arms!" give me a break. ::)
yes, there are those who use steroids to mask a lack of dedication, but your ad nauseum bitching about steroids in general is just insufferable. haven't you noticed that every time you create these threads the majority of the boards none-too-kindly requests that you shut up? even the naturals?
you, my friend, are the "natural" who gives naturals a bad name. the sad thing is, you aren't even natural. if you'd never taken gear, you wouldn't be the size you are.
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funny thread
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this is what insecure people say to make themselves feel better when they see juicers bigger than them. "well if he was natural i'd be bigger than him!!" no better than skinny people who say of powerlifters "if he dieted down he'd be 150 pounds with 13 inch arms!" give me a break. ::)
yes, there are those who use steroids to mask a lack of dedication, but your ad nauseum bitching about steroids in general is just insufferable. haven't you noticed that every time you create these threads the majority of the boards none-too-kindly requests that you shut up? even the naturals?
you, my friend, are the "natural" who gives naturals a bad name. the sad thing is, you aren't even natural. if you'd never taken gear, you wouldn't be the size you are.
The reason so many get bend on when I post, is because I say it like it is. Whether you agree or not, is irrelevant. Again, I dominate most who juice...what don't you understand about that? I don't see some guy who is 250lbs and go..."Man, he were natural, I'd be bigger." haha, Give me a break. I never think that. I do however laugh at the dickbrains who I own with no drugs. It's hard to be jealous of someone smaller, less ripped than you...isn't it?
As far as the "if you'd never taken gear, you wouldn't be the size you are"...You're probably right. The one 2 month cycle I took 14 years back ENTIRELY CHANGED MY DNA FOR LIFE. I owe all my gains to it actually. Here's the secret, take roids for about 2 months....now loose all that, take a few years off lifting...drop down to @150lbs. Now, because you have some dbol residue in your blood, when you hit the weights again...>BOOM!! 210lbs...the best part is, you don't even need drugs now.
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I hope you realize how foolish you sound.
What you have to understand is that it's not about achievement for most, but about tackling insecurity, wanting acceptance, or filling some other void in life.
Not all, but many I'm sure. Steroids are for boys pretending to be men.
Next topic.
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I don't see some guy who is 250lbs and go..."Man, he were natural, I'd be bigger."
lol dude 250 ain't really that big. Maybe for a 5'7" midget it is but not otherwise :D
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Get over yourself dude. No one gives two sh*ts how great you think you are. You never see juicers going around to naturals putting them down or whatever because they are weaker or smaller. But, guys like you always love to strut around saying," he juices but I'm bigger, so I'm the best, they cheated, they suck" ::) I guess you better get off all the protein, creatine, BCAA's and vitamins, because if it didn't grow out of the ground or was killed and skinned, then its man made, hence NOT NATURAL. Juice can be used as a tool to get bigger and stronger. The ones who abuse it and shrink when they come off are usually young and ignorant, and only work arms and chest, because thats what the chickies like. And you really must work out at a bitch gym, because all other gyms I've worked out at where the guys were sauced, they would own you 7 days a week bro. A word of advice, quit being such a douchebag ;)
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Get over yourself dude. No one gives two sh*ts how great you think you are. You never see juicers going around to naturals putting them down or whatever because they are weaker or smaller. But, guys like you always love to strut around saying," he juices but I'm bigger, so I'm the best, they cheated, they suck" ::) I guess you better get off all the protein, creatine, BCAA's and vitamins, because if it didn't grow out of the ground or was killed and skinned, then its man made, hence NOT NATURAL. Juice can be used as a tool to get bigger and stronger. The ones who abuse it and shrink when they come off are usually young and ignorant, and only work arms and chest, because thats what the chickies like. And you really must work out at a bitch gym, because all other gyms I've worked out at where the guys were sauced, they would own you 7 days a week bro. A word of advice, quit being such a douchebag ;)
You have to love the "creatine, glutamine, bcaa's" aren't natural argument. Most people would put gear and those in the same category, for sure. ::)
I should go to your gym. It appears most there have great genetics and genetic response to gear...I'd actually prefer that environment. I'd probably push harder to pwn them too. ;)
lol dude 250 ain't really that big. Maybe for a 5'7" midget it is but not otherwise
I apologize. I forgot we were on getbig. 250lbs lean muscle isn't very big. Even for someone 6' tall. Good point. ;) ::)
I never cease to be amazed at the "insightful" comments on this board. :D What we have here, are rationalization for abusing drugs, nothing more. Face it, most can't do jack shit without some drug cocktail. If you're one of them, I feel sorry for you.
Let's move on now...
Croatch
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I forgot we were on getbig. 250lbs lean muscle isn't very big. Even for someone 6' tall. Good point. ;) ::)
Well 250 LEAN is impressive (depending of course on what you mean by "lean"). I thought you were talking in general terms, no bodyfat restrictions. Mind you, I'm not talking about a "pumphard" type who weighs 360 lbs at 47% BF ;D
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croatch let is go man.....
u seem to have some deep underlying issues with guys who take gear....
the funny thing is you said yourself .... at some point
ive never so im completely natural does it mean im better than you ???
no?
im probably stronger than you... from what ive seen of ur vids
does it mean im better no..
should i rag on you like you rag on people who take gear..???
cmon dude let it go
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croatch let is go man.....
u seem to have some deep underlying issues with guys who take gear....
the funny thing is you said yourself .... at some point
ive never so im completely natural does it mean im better than you ???
no?
im probably stronger than you... from what ive seen of ur vids
does it mean im better no..
should i rag on you like you rag on people who take gear..???
cmon dude let it go
Meso. Do the getbig show and Ill jump in too. Could be the best one yet!! :o
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Get over yourself dude. No one gives two sh*ts how great you think you are. You never see juicers going around to naturals putting them down or whatever because they are weaker or smaller.[/b] But, guys like you always love to strut around saying," he juices but I'm bigger, so I'm the best, they cheated, they suck" ::) I guess you better get off all the protein, creatine, BCAA's and vitamins, because if it didn't grow out of the ground or was killed and skinned, then its man made, hence NOT NATURAL. Juice can be used as a tool to get bigger and stronger. The ones who abuse it and shrink when they come off are usually young and ignorant, and only work arms and chest, because thats what the chickies like. And you really must work out at a bitch gym, because all other gyms I've worked out at where the guys were sauced, they would own you 7 days a week bro. A word of advice, quit being such a douchebag ;)
LOL Fat Alex was ripping on Croatch just a few weeks ago, then posting pictures of his small fat frame juiced up-claiming superiority.
Then the latest pics of Fat Alex come out-shit genetics, small, fat saggy chest-huge gut....OFF THE SAUCE.
;D Naturals with great genetics always piss off juicers......i was inclining 315 natural, to the chagrin of several weaker juicers. hahaha ;D Most of them are insecure thats why they cant come off the sauce.
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Meso. Do the getbig show and Ill jump in too. Could be the best one yet!! :o
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im still thinkin about it man
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The reason so many get bend on when I post, is because I say it like it is. Whether you agree or not, is irrelevant. Again, I dominate most who juice...what don't you understand about that? I don't see some guy who is 250lbs and go..."Man, he were natural, I'd be bigger." haha, Give me a break. I never think that. I do however laugh at the dickbrains who I own with no drugs. It's hard to be jealous of someone smaller, less ripped than you...isn't it?
As far as the "if you'd never taken gear, you wouldn't be the size you are"...You're probably right. The one 2 month cycle I took 14 years back ENTIRELY CHANGED MY DNA FOR LIFE. I owe all my gains to it actually. Here's the secret, take roids for about 2 months....now loose all that, take a few years off lifting...drop down to @150lbs. Now, because you have some dbol residue in your blood, when you hit the weights again...>BOOM!! 210lbs...the best part is, you don't even need drugs now.
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I hope you realize how foolish you sound. Not all, but many I'm sure. Steroids are for boys pretending to be men.
Next topic.
there is no "next topic" for you, dumbass. you have one topic: bitching about steroids.
anyway, the reason people get "bend" out of shape when you post is because you're a complete jackass. you don't "tell it like it is", that's an excuse thickheaded troglodytes make when they get their due backlash for running off at the mouth while their brains are shut down. "oh you just can't handle it, i'm telling it like it is."
first of all, no you're not. that story didn't happen. none of them did. you lift at gold's. i'm sure that out of the oodles and oodles of people that lift there you could find a bunch of them who juice to mask a lack of dedication. congrats, you have eyeballs. but the fact is a) no one gives a shit, b) you look like a toolbox for continually pointing it out.
i'm willing to bet this is all because you wore your "natural bodybuilding" shirt to the gym and some 280 pound hulk look at you and laughed, saying "natural, huh? no shit!!!" and then walked away. you want some respect? do your thing and quit this BS crusade. haven't you noticed it's even naturals on here who are telling you to shut the hell up?
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im still thinkin about it man
Thats not fair!!! Your already ripped...Ill need 4 months to prep... >:(
Give a brother (In Iron) a break. ;D
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ha ha... im bigger but im still the same bf
...but see it takes me longer to get bigger..
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serios question croatch
Why are you afraid of steroids and fake tits?
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As far as the "if you'd never taken gear, you wouldn't be the size you are"...You're probably right. The one 2 month cycle I took 14 years back ENTIRELY CHANGED MY DNA FOR LIFE. I owe all my gains to it actually.
Hate to piss in your cornflakes Croatch, but that's TRUE.
You raised your genetic set-point by putting on those 35 gear-induced pounds, whether you like it or not.
How come you haven't put on ANOTHER 35 lbs naturally?
You basically look the same now as you did 3 years ago. The only way you are ever going to make another MAJOR leap in your physique is by gearing up (again)
Sorry :-X
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Its stupid how people take drugs and think they look good and are tough when really they cant put up any weight and walk with deformed bodyparts and guts. Its sad how bodybuilding is today.. just all drugs and nothing but guts, and fluid filled bodies. Natural is the way to go. Dont have to worry about all these problems and waste time and money on stupid stuff.
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Croatch has a very good build especially for a natty but if he thinks they're aren't any impressive juicers out there who just juice and lift for the hell of it he's wrong, the strongest hardest training guys i've ever seen have been juiced to the gills but human forklifts, 315 pound seated presses for reps, 750 pound deadlifts, 800 pound squats, 455 pound bb rows, 185 pound dumbbells for reps on inclines, all done by juicers i've known over the years.
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Its stupid how people take drugs and think they look good and are tough when really they cant put up any weight and walk with deformed bodyparts and guts. Its sad how bodybuilding is today.. just all drugs and nothing but guts, and fluid filled bodies. Natural is the way to go. Dont have to worry about all these problems and waste time and money on stupid stuff.
you also don't have to worry about problems such as going past 135 lbs with abs. ::)
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Dont make any sense.. I know many bodybuilders who are natural and weigh anywhere from 185-220lbs with six packs, full chest, wide back and arms who are 5'8-5'9 tall. Just making yourself feel and look stupid when taking drugs that will just end up ruining your body. Just jealous when a natural looks better.
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Dont make any sense.. I know many bodybuilders who are natural and weigh anywhere from 185-220lbs with six packs, full chest, wide back and arms who are 5'8-5'9 tall. Just making yourself feel and look stupid when taking drugs that will just end up ruining your body. Just jealous when a natural looks better.
hahha...Give up. all the schmoes will argue till eternity.
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LOL Fat Alex was ripping on Croatch just a few weeks ago, then posting pictures of his small fat frame juiced up-claiming superiority.
Then the latest pics of Fat Alex come out-shit genetics, small, fat saggy chest-huge gut....OFF THE SAUCE.
;D Naturals with great genetics always piss off juicers......i was inclining 315 natural, to the chagrin of several weaker juicers. hahaha ;D Most of them are insecure thats why they cant come off the sauce.
To be honest, I'd be seriously irritated if someone was natural and had much better gains than me...and I juiced. Almost humiliating really.
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Croatch has a very good build especially for a natty but if he thinks they're aren't any impressive juicers out there who just juice and lift for the hell of it he's wrong, the strongest hardest training guys i've ever seen have been juiced to the gills but human forklifts, 315 pound seated presses for reps, 750 pound deadlifts, 800 pound squats, 455 pound bb rows, 185 pound dumbbells for reps on inclines, all done by juicers i've known over the years.
haha, I'd have to be delusional to think my strength was superior to some on gear. Or to think my physique was better than some on gear. Some naturally and on gear dust me....but not most.
Hate to piss in your cornflakes Croatch, but that's TRUE.
You raised your genetic set-point by putting on those 35 gear-induced pounds, whether you like it or not.
How come you haven't put on ANOTHER 35 lbs naturally?
You basically look the same now as you did 3 years ago. The only way you are ever going to make another MAJOR leap in your physique is by gearing up (again)
Sorry
Ok, I owe everything to the one cycle I took in 94'. ::) Moving on.
I dropped to 165lbs after the cycle. Took some time off, back to 150lbs. Then lifted for a few years, got up to 180lbs, stopped for another couple years...dropped to 150lbs. 2002-2003, went from 150lbs to 200lbs.
And I completely agree on your last comment. If I wanted to make a BIG leap from where I am now, it would take gear. My diet is about as good as it can be, training is consistent and hard, sufficient rest, etc. Even with drugs, you plateau, then it's a matter of adding more chemical. That becomes more of a science experiment, than bodybuilding.
I'm pretty sure you aren't sure what I gained where and how. Hope that cleared it up.
serios question croatch
Why are you afraid of steroids and fake tits?
What is the underlying theme there???
FAKE SHIT...People in general need a reality check. Society is so pathetic when it comes to changing themselves. Instead of accepting what you have and making it the best you can, we're conditioned to take a pill for a problem. Same thing goes with depression, anxiety, hyperactivity...etc. Granted, no amount of work will make a titty bigger or an ugly face pretty, but guess what...that's life bitch! haha
i'm willing to bet this is all because you wore your "natural bodybuilding" shirt to the gym and some 280 pound hulk look at you and laughed, saying "natural, huh? no shit!!!" and then walked away. you want some respect? do your thing and quit this BS crusade. haven't you noticed it's even naturals on here who are telling you to shut the hell up?
Sorry. I'm not sure what fantasy world you play in, but I lift with regular sorry juicers, much like everywhere in the US. I know everyone at your gym is 280lbs and shredded. And even if that situation were to occur, you're missing the point. That guy who is 280lbs on gear....is mainly that way, yes, because of gear. The thing is, these chumps can never do much without it. That's the point.
croatch let is go man.....
u seem to have some deep underlying issues with guys who take gear....
the funny thing is you said yourself .... at some point
ive never so im completely natural does it mean im better than you
no?
im probably stronger than you... from what ive seen of ur vids
does it mean im better no..
should i rag on you like you rag on people who take gear..
cmon dude let it go
A getbig intervention...hahah, nice. ;D If you're stronger than me naturally, technically, you are a little better. ;) I'd probably say, "Man, I'm fucking weak." Honestly, that would be my view. Or think, "Damn, that guy is pretty strong."
I rarely see that though.
LOL Fat Alex was ripping on Croatch just a few weeks ago, then posting pictures of his small fat frame juiced up-claiming superiority.
Then the latest pics of Fat Alex come out-shit genetics, small, fat saggy chest-huge gut....OFF THE SAUCE.
Naturals with great genetics always piss off juicers......i was inclining 315 natural, to the chagrin of several weaker juicers. hahaha Most of them are insecure thats why they cant come off the sauce.
I always thought he was natural? Either way, your genetic shape is more important than weight or what you lift....in bodybuilding. Where were the pictures of me "juiced up"? I'd be curious to see those.