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about as brutal as alex23 working out to a meatloaf music video on mtv 4
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Faster than a Falcon's attack
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Faster than a Falcon's attack
i was very inspired by the young neegar mike tyson
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thats when he had the ultimate white trainingmaster over seeing him
the white devil brought out the evil to live!
the black idiot fool don the king fed mike the wrong food
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If Cus were still alive, Mike would still be undefeated!
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If Cus were still alive, Mike would still be undefeated!
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what was mikes cycle like ?
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Mike was always a genetic freak, at 13 he looked like a guy who's been weight training for years.
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i can't even imagine standing toe to toe with Tyson, epic fear.
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Tyson rules
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Tyson rules
hahahahhaa, i'm waiting for all the internet badasses to chime in with how they'd fight Tyson. ::)
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hahahahhaa, i'm waiting for all the internet badasses to chime in with how they'd fight Tyson. ::)
That's nothing. These beasts would fly in our their private jets, knock Kimbo out in under a minute, then have five cups of rice, 58 egg whites, bench a few sets of 500 then knock out Tyson.
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how much does that blond hat cost?
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hahah, i noticed that all young dudes wear their t-shirts untucked and older duddes still tuck their shirts in. Its like the modern day generation gap.
When did the style of the untucked T start and when is it going to end?
WOuld love to hear what some of you younger guys think of why a tucked in shirt looks so bad, or so out of style? Its one of the most pervasive style trends around. Curious to know why everyone does it.
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hahah, i noticed that all young dudes wear their t-shirts untucked and older duddes still tuck their shirts in. Its like the modern day generation gap.
When did the style of the untucked T start and when is it going to end?
WOuld love to hear what some of you younger guys think of why a tucked in shirt looks so bad, or so out of style? Its one of the most pervasive style trends around. Curious to know why everyone does it.
DEPENDS on the shirt right bull?certain tees if tucked and even polos with certain pants even jeans will give u high waist look like pants are pulled up to your chest,that i think looks funny.it depends on your frame long torso can get away,short torso not so appealing.
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DEPENDS on the shirt right bull?certain tees if tucked and even polos with certain pants even jeans will give u high waist look like pants are pulled up to your chest,that i think looks funny.it depends on your frame long torso can get away,short torso not so appealing.
well im only 5 8 so untucking my xl t-shirts just makes me look shorter, Plus untucked shirts was something lesbians always did....I know some older dudes at work look ridiculous pulling up their pants real high, tucking in their shirt and belting it like a tornado is coming. That looks ridiculous, but the Ryan Seacrest untucked collar shirt look looks just as ridiculous and these younger guys.
I think it started cause americans are getting fatter and untucking the shirt hides their bellies, girls used to do it in the gym, now guys do it.
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hahah, i noticed that all young dudes wear their t-shirts untucked and older duddes still tuck their shirts in. Its like the modern day generation gap.
When did the style of the untucked T start and when is it going to end?
WOuld love to hear what some of you younger guys think of why a tucked in shirt looks so bad, or so out of style? Its one of the most pervasive style trends around. Curious to know why everyone does it.
The worst fashion trend I've seem among guys younger than I am is the baggy pants below the ass look. I still can't figure out how the pants stay up.
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Mike was always a genetic freak, at 13 he looked like a guy who's been weight training for years.
I saw a similar interview with him and his trainer, but he was 15. At first I couldn't believe he was only fifteen, his arms and shoulders were so damn big, definitely a freak! :o
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The worst fashion trend I've seem among guys younger than I am is the baggy pants below the ass look. I still can't figure out how the pants stay up.
hahah,yea that one was pretty bad, I still a few older black dudes tryin to still pull that off and they look fkn ridiculous, espcially over 30 years old...
That trend started when ex cons get out of jail they are issued a pair of prison jeans size xxl, so all these dudes go back to their old neighborhoods wearing this big ass pants hanging down their waste. The kids in the neighborhood thought they were bad ass, so they started wearing their pants down their ass too....hahahah
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well im only 5 8 so untucking my xl t-shirts just makes me look shorter, Plus untucked shirts was something lesbians always did....I know some older dudes at work look ridiculous pulling up their pants real high, tucking in their shirt and belting it like a tornado is coming. That looks ridiculous, but the Ryan Seacrest untucked collar shirt look looks just as ridiculous and these younger guys.
I think it started cause americans are getting fatter and untucking the shirt hides their bellies, girls used to do it in the gym, now guys do it.
AGAIN the untucked collared shirt if fitted and below waist line looks good even with athletic build type,it cannot hang too long or the material hanging all over especially if your in shape ,you will look overweight with the wrong collared shirt tucked out that is not meant to be tucked out.i wear them ,and it seems to be popular still in our area nj/ny.fitted polos are good either way ,but most long torso and super skinny banana republic types get away tucking in fitted polos .
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i can't even imagine standing toe to toe with Tyson, epic fear.
I remember growing up as a young boy in Vegas idolizing Mike when he was awesome. I can truly say if there is any man that I fear, it's him even today. That fucker is unpredictable and will still knock a guy out. I met him in a barbershop in Vegas I used to go to "Hair Unlimited" back in the early 2000s. That bastard has one of the biggest heads I've ever seen on a human.
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This is why Tyson could those hard shots and still stand!
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at 19-22 or so tyson could easily kill any man on the planet regardless of size or martial art skills
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at 19-22 or so tyson could easily kill any man on the planet regardless of size or martial art skills
absolutely right, frighteningly fast hands for a heavyweight and powerful as a mule kick.
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absolutely right, frighteningly fast hands for a heavyweight and powerful as a mule kick.
not only that he could move twist and bend his core so quick like a thick spring, legendary stability and technique and no fear in his eyes at that age
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Definitly. Tyson was a phenom...amazing to watch him dismantle taller guys when he was young. When he left rooney from damato it all fell apart. he stopped his bob and weaving......frickin mess after that.......
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He was only 5'9" he was all ways reported to be 5'11" though!
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This is why Tyson could those hard shots and still stand!
What a fucking neck ! Jesus cripe !
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i can't even imagine standing toe to toe with Tyson, epic fear.
You're not alone.
What doesn't help is the fact that the guy could snap at any moment......
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i can't even imagine standing toe to toe with Tyson, epic fear.
Dude... I met Tyson once... He is a tank... I would crap my pants if I even thought Tyson wanted to hit me.
Jamie Foxx once said it best...
Tyson walking around is like Pit Bull without a leash on.
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Anyone remember the russian monster who won the heavyweight title in boxing some years ago (1-3). No one had a chance on him! And I doubt Tyson would have either.
Tyson already had problem beating Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. I think he is a little bit overrated. He was great but not the superduper world greatest.
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In his prime I doubt you could take the fucker even with a damn knife in your hand.
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In his prime I doubt you could take the fucker even with a damn knife in your hand.
Cue the cage warriors on here saying how they d kick the knife out of his hand and "get him in a take down and then break his arm" ::) ::)
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at 19-22 or so tyson could easily kill any man on the planet regardless of size or martial art skills
Bullshit. A 22 year old Tyson vs. Fedor like he is today = Fedor would destroy Tyson.
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Bullshit. A 22 year old Tyson vs. Fedor like he is today = Fedor would destroy Tyson.
Fedor may win but he wouldn't destroy a prime Mike Tyson. Remember the mma gloves are like 4oz. In any fight Fedor usually trades shots and always takes a few to get his opponent down. Fedor has never faced anyone remotely close to a prime Tyson's speed and power. So imagine him getting hit a few times from a prime Tyson wearing 4oz gloves!!
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Bullshit. A 22 year old Tyson vs. Fedor like he is today = Fedor would destroy Tyson.
hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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tyson was the most terrifying man on the planted in his early 20's... no one could stand with him, in a ring, street, cage etc etc
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hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Do you truly think Tyson in his prime would beat Fedor in a fight with MMA rules or no rules? No chance. Fedor would beat him.
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According to the badasses ::) over at the MMA board, Tyson in his prime would stand no chance against Trailer Park Chuck Liddell and all the other MMA super duper bad to de bone fighters.
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According to the badasses ::) over at the MMA board, Tyson in his prime would stand no chance against Trailer Park Chuck Liddell and all the other MMA super duper bad to de bone fighters.
hahahahaaa, a 19 year old Tyson would stomp a mudhole in any of those fake tough guys.
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Do you truly think Tyson in his prime would beat Fedor in a fight with MMA rules or no rules? No chance. Fedor would beat him.
Disagree... Tyson isn't just a boxer. Tyson grew up fighting in the streets.
He didn't put on some gloves and start beating a bag... He beat up people first, then put gloves on to keep from going to jail if he killed someone.
I think a 22 year old Tyson would beat any MMA fighter today or yesterday... That's just my personal opinion.
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Disagree... Tyson isn't just a boxer. Tyson grew up fighting in the streets.
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& the truth will set you free
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hahahahaaa, a 19 year old Tyson would stomp a mudhole in any of those fake tough guys.
yes, 100 percent agreed
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The fucking greatest HW of all time!!! ;)
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hahahahhaa, i'm waiting for all the internet badasses to chime in with how they'd fight Tyson. ::)
Aren't you the guy who claimed to bench 450 lbs for reps? Anyway, I know this Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy in my gym that would give tyson an armbar, break it, then give him a submission hold and choke him out. He is a third degreee black belt certified by Helio Gracie.
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Just a matter of time before someone claimed they or their buddy would kick Tyson's ass! ::)
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Aren't you the guy who claimed to bench 450 lbs for reps? Anyway, I know this Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy in my gym that would give tyson an armbar, break it, then give him a submission hold and choke him out. He is a third degreee black belt certified by Helio Gracie.
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, oh brother here we go ;D........BTW i've NEVER claimed i could even bench 450 for a single let alone reps, i'll never even touch 450 and 99 percent of guys on here won't either.
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Aren't you the guy who claimed to bench 450 lbs for reps? Anyway, I know this Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy in my gym that would give tyson an armbar, break it, then give him a submission hold and choke him out. He is a third degreee black belt certified by Helio Gracie.
My girlfriend's cousin's uncle was trained in the sixties by Bruce Lee and is a stage 6 black belt in Rex kwan do and would have fought Tyson back in '91 but blew out his knee in the cage.
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My girlfriend's cousin's uncle was trained in the sixties by Bruce Lee and is a stage 6 black belt in Rex kwan do and would have fought Tyson back in '91 but blew out his knee in the cage.
hahahahaa.
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, oh brother here we go ;D........BTW i've NEVER claimed i could even bench 450 for a single let alone reps, i'll never even touch 450 and 99 percent of guys on here won't either.
What is so incredible about a grapler defeating a boxer in a fight? It happens all the time. Have you ever watched PRIDE, K-1, UFC, etc? Boxers don't do very well there against graplers. Sure, if Tyson manages to put a punch in this guy I know, he's dead. The thing is that before Tyson hits him he will have thrown Tyson on the ground and given him a submission hold.
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What is so incredible about a grapler defeating a boxer in a fight? It happens all the time. Have you ever watched PRIDE, K-1, UFC, etc? Boxers don't do very well there against graplers. Sure, if Tyson manages to put a punch in this guy I know, he's dead. The thing is that before Tyson hits him he will have thrown Tyson on the ground and given him a submission hold.
But so called "strikers" in MMA arent even in the same stratosphere as Iron Mike Tyson in his prime, not even remotely close. The way MMA guys talk, Tyson is just a chump and would be lucky to make it through a round with their lower tier "grapplers". Delusional man, completely and utterly delusional
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White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
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White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson!
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Yes , he is a white guy.
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But so called "strikers" in MMA arent even in the same stratosphere as Iron Mike Tyson in his prime, not even remotely close. The way MMA guys talk, Tyson is just a chump and would be lucky to make it through a round with their lower tier "grapplers". Delusional man, completely and utterly delusional
I beg to differ. Tyson only strikes with his hands, and while he might be the best ever at this, it leaves the legs out which are stronger and can strike further than the arms. I would rate Mirko Crocop, Minotauro, Randy Couture and Wand Silva as strikers who are as good as Tyson.
I contend that any black belt in judo or jiu-jitsu or any grapling martial arts would defeat Tyson. As soon as the black belt manages to thrown Tyson on the ground, he's finished. He can't fight for shit on the ground and would easily get locked in an armbar or chiocked out.
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I beg to differ. Tyson only strikes with his hands, and while he might be the best ever at this, it leaves the legs out which are stronger and can strike further than the arms. I would rate Mirko Crocop, Minotauro, Randy Couture and Wand Silva as strikers who are as good as Tyson. I contend that any black belt in judo or jiu-jitsu or any grapling martial arts would defeat Tyson. As soon as the black belt manages to thrown Tyson on the ground, he's finished. He can't fight for shit on the ground and would easily get locked in an armbar or chiocked out.
Surely you are kidding. You are giving these chumps as much credit as one of the greatest Heavyweight Boxing Champions to ever live. Saying they can box or "strike ::)" as well as Tyson, it's not even worthy of arguing with you. You have shown you are mentally challenged and probably alot slow. Tyson was robbing and beating up grown men as a 12 year old, I imagine he could handle himself quite well against Randy "The Natural ::)" Couture and the rest of those hobos you named. You MMA guys need to realize people engaged in hand to hand combat long before the "Octagon" was invented. Tyson literally was fighting to live, long before Boxing.
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Tyson literally was fighting to live, long before Boxing.
Preach on... Tyson is so fast... so quick... hands of stone. There's not an MMA guy alive who could handle Tyson in his prime.
They act like Tyson only had hands and power.... The guy had footwork... had movement... The MMA guys would be in for a rude awakening if they tried to "take down" tyson.
I'd love to see a leg takedown from an MMA guy... Do you think he would be unconscious from a couple of Tyson shots to the head before or just after he had Tyson in his grasp?
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Again, If were talking tyson at 19-22 yrs old......Unbeatable and would have gone on if people didnt play with his head. Hes was easy to manipulate and Don king and robin givens messed him up for life.
That new trainer stopped everything tyson was taught by amato and rooney...the bobbing and weaving...all the strategies of the greats, Like ali using the ropes to tire out george foreman.....
He had all that stuff down and threw it away. he turned back to his instincts of survival on the streets and fought like that. He still survived on his guts and raw power but without the skills taught by his mentor, he became mortal and beatable..............an d he was.
Sad story.
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I think a Gracie style grapler who knows how to throw punches/kicks and could take a few would beat Tyson. MMA involves physical fighting too just remember that.
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Not a prime Tyson!
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Surely you are kidding. You are giving these chumps as much credit as one of the greatest Heavyweight Boxing Champions to ever live. Saying they can box
I never claimed they can box as well as Tyson, you idiot.
or "strike"
Yes, they can strike better than Tyson. Why? Because they can strike with their leges too, while Tyson is only good at striking with his arms. That gives them a significant edge over Tyson.
as well as Tyson, it's not even worthy of arguing with you. You have shown you are mentally challenged and probably alot slow.
Making ad hominem attacks is an admission of defeat. Accusing your opponent in an argument of being mentally challenged is the oldest and lamest way to try discrediting him.
Tyson was robbing and beating up grown men as a 12 year old, I imagine he could handle himself quite well against Randy "The Natural" Couture and the rest of those hobos you named.
This tells me nothing of how he would fair against Wand or Mirko in a fight. Randy Couture, Wand, Mirko, etc, are vastly stronger, tougher and better at fighting than the average men Tyson could beat when he was 12.
You MMA guys need to realize people engaged in hand to hand combat long before the "Octagon" was invented. Tyson literally was fighting to live, long before Boxing.
No, moron, it is you who needs to understand that a fighter who is only good at throwing punches is at a disadvantage when fighting guys who can not only throw punhces but also kicks, knee kicks, elbow kicks and who can also fight on the ground. Guys who could only box got owned each and every single time they fought on the octagon or at PRIDE by fighters who could also fight with their legs and on the ground.
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I think a Gracie style grapler who knows how to throw punches/kicks and could take a few would beat Tyson. MMA involves physical fighting too just remember that.
Exactly. Tyson in his prime would defeat anyone easily fighting with the rules of boxing. It tells us nothing of how he would do in a no-holds-bare fight.
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Exactly. Tyson in his prime would defeat anyone easily fighting with the rules of boxing. It tells us nothing of how he would do in a no-holds-bare fight.
Fair enough but no one in mma has taken a punch like Tyson's could you imagine how hard he would in those 4 oz. gloves!
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Exactly. Tyson in his prime would defeat anyone easily fighting with the rules of boxing. It tells us nothing of how he would do in a no-holds-bare fight.
What part of Tyson beating up adults when he was 12 did you not catch?
Tyson didn't just fight in the ring... He walked down the street and BEAT PEOPLE UP.
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I never claimed they can box as well as Tyson, you idiot.
Yes, they can strike better than Tyson. Why? Because they can strike with their leges too, while Tyson is only good at striking with his arms. That gives them a significant edge over Tyson.
Making ad hominem attacks is an admission of defeat. Accusing your opponent in an argument of being mentally challenged is the oldest and lamest way to try discrediting him.
This tells me nothing of how he would fair against Wand or Mirko in a fight. Randy Couture, Wand, Mirko, etc, are vastly stronger, tougher and better at fighting than the average men Tyson could beat when he was 12.
No, moron, it is you who needs to understand that a fighter who is only good at throwing punches is at a disadvantage when fighting guys who can not only throw punhces but also kicks, knee kicks, elbow kicks and who can also fight on the ground. Guys who could only box got owned each and every single time they fought on the octagon or at PRIDE by fighters who could also fight with their legs and on the ground.
You MMA retards make me laugh. Go suck on the teet of Liddell some more and stroke your dong to highlight reels of the great Joyce Gracie. Bottom line is this, put a prime Tyson against any of your strikers ::), and it's lights out for your trailer trash heros. Only 95% of the population agrees, but the local tough guys in Tapout Gear, tribal tatoos and beenies just don't seem to get it. Go count rocks boy, thats all you seem to be good for. ;)
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I watched a 235 pound professional heavy weight boxer fight a 215 pound cop from Nebraska in the original UFC, the cop was 5-11 and knew only judo.
The boxer was 6-3 235 , the cop took him down and locked out his arm-fight over....it didnt last long.
Boxers would have zero chance in the octagon against a grappler who can also strike.......its just ridiculous. He may get lucky and win one or two but hes going to lose the majority of the time.
Tyson mugging people as a 12 year old doesnt have much to do with anything.
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I watched a 235 pound professional heavy weight boxer fight a 215 pound cop from Nebraska in the original UFC, the cop was 5-11 and knew only judo.
The boxer was 6-3 235 , the cop took him down and locked out his arm-fight over....it didnt last long.
Boxers would have zero chance in the octagon against a grappler who can also strike.......its just ridiculous. He may get lucky and win one or two but hes going to lose the majority of the time.
Tyson mugging people as a 12 year old doesnt have much to do with anything.
Are you serious?
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I watched a 235 pound professional heavy weight boxer fight a 215 pound cop from Nebraska in the original UFC, the cop was 5-11 and knew only judo.
The boxer was 6-3 235 , the cop took him down and locked out his arm-fight over....it didnt last long.
Boxers would have zero chance in the octagon against a grappler who can also strike.......its just ridiculous. He may get lucky and win one or two but hes going to lose the majority of the time.
Tyson mugging people as a 12 year old doesnt have much to do with anything.
Ha a professional heavyweight boxer?
Right... Who was it?
Anyone can be a 'professional', but it takes someone special to be the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world... And even someone more special to be Mike Tyson.
Keep thinking that the MMA is all that.
I see 'cage fighters' every day here in LA...
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A world champion caliber wrestler is very good at taking someone down, and thats what Couture is. A lot of the MMA fighters are olympic level wrestlers, and can strike with their hands and feet. A boxer who has zero ground game isnt going to do very well. I dont care who the boxer is. What do you think would happen in a pro boxing match if you could dive and take out an opponents knee ?
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Ha a professional heavyweight boxer?
Right... Who was it?
Anyone can be a 'professional', but it takes someone special to be the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world... And even someone more special to be Mike Tyson.
Keep thinking that the MMA is all that.
I see 'cage fighters' every day here in LA...
Most people these days don't realize how great Tyson was they only know of the post-prison the Tyson that was washed up!
Jaimee Foxx is supposed to be playing Tyson in a movie based on his life!
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I watched a 235 pound professional heavy weight boxer fight a 215 pound cop from Nebraska in the original UFC, the cop was 5-11 and knew only judo.
The boxer was 6-3 235 , the cop took him down and locked out his arm-fight over....it didnt last long.
Boxers would have zero chance in the octagon against a grappler who can also strike.......its just ridiculous. He may get lucky and win one or two but hes going to lose the majority of the time.
Tyson mugging people as a 12 year old doesnt have much to do with anything.
Wow, thanks for the insight SirTraps. Some no name boxer you can't even remember the name of getting beat by some cop 20 years ago means zilch dildo. Tyson's name can be put up their with Frazier, Foreman and even Ali, yet as great of a fighter as he was, he doesn't stand a chance against Chuck Liddell and the missing link Tim Sylvia.
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correct, in a fight that allows grappling and submission holds, a boxer who has no grappling back ground is going to lose more than he wins. I dont care who the boxer is.
Its not hard to tie up and wrestle with a boxer, there is no referee to break up "holding" in the mma.
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A world champion caliber wrestler is very good at taking someone down, and thats what Couture is. A lot of the MMA fighters are olympic level wrestlers, and can strike with their hands and feet. A boxer who has zero ground game isnt going to do very well. I dont care who the boxer is. What do you think would happen in a pro boxing match if you could dive and take out an opponents knee ?
They usually takes hits to get their opponet down correct? Well if Tyson hit someone with a pair of 4 oz gloves on its lights out!!
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Tyson was robbing and beating up grown men as a 12 year old,
Tyson is probably legitimately the only man you can actually say this was true for, he was 190 at 12-14 years old and was an enforcer for debt collectors, once in a lifetime physical specimen.
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Tyson is probably legitimately the only man you can actually say this was true for, he was 190 at 12-14 years old and was an enforcer for debt collectors, once in a lifetime physical specimen.
Yeah he was a freak of nature!
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Most people these days don't realize how great Tyson was they only know of the post-prison the Tyson that was washed up!
Jaimee Foxx is supposed to be playing Tyson in a movie based on his life!
1/2 the people who think Tyson would get beat up, never saw him fight when they were growing up... I remember paying for a pay per view for a goddam 90 second fight... That was Tyson... the baddest man on the planet.
A world champion caliber wrestler is very good at taking someone down, and thats what Couture is. A lot of the MMA fighters are olympic level wrestlers, and can strike with their hands and feet. A boxer who has zero ground game isnt going to do very well. I dont care who the boxer is. What do you think would happen in a pro boxing match if you could dive and take out an opponents knee ?
I think if you went down to your knees, to take out tyson... He would pummel your head unmercifully for all of 2 or 3 seconds and you would be unconscious... because Tyson hit people that fucking hard.
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and if Tyson gets bumped, shoved, kicked or wrestled to the ground .......its game over.
If there was no referee in boxing and you could hold and maul, hit to the back of the head, put someone in a headlock........wed probably never have heard of Ali ;D
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Something MMA guys forget though is hand speed, boxers have it, MMA guys DON'T! Those takedowns you talk about come in sooooo slow for a boxer, these guys are built around action/reaction, hand speed and foot speed, agility drills. Look at how Lidell throws a punch and compare it to Tyson, it is literally night and day. Same thing goes for the way these guys go in for a takedown, it would be like slow motion for a Champion Boxer. Tyson lands 1 punch in a 4 ounce glove to a rib and you are out for the night, a head shot, he might kill you, seriously. Watch video of Tyson on ESPN classic when he was a kid,even before he won the title, hand speed was just rediculous.
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Something MMA guys forget though is hand speed, boxers have it, MMA guys DON'T! Those takedowns you talk about come in sooooo slow for a boxer, these guys are built around action/reaction, hand speed and foot speed, agility drills. Look at how Lidell throws a punch and compare it to Tyson, it is literally night and day. Same thing goes for the way these guys go in for a takedown, it would be like slow motion for a Champion Boxer. Tyson lands 1 punch in a 4 ounce glove to a rib and you are out for the night, a head shot, he might kill you, seriously. Watch video of Tyson on ESPN classic when he was a kid,even before he won the title, hand speed was just rediculous.
That pretty much sums it up.
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They usually takes hits to get their opponet down correct? Well if Tyson hit someone with a pair of 4 oz gloves on its lights out!!
thats a very manly neck tyson has ;D
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You MMA retards make me laugh. Go suck on the teet of Liddell some more and stroke your dong to highlight reels of the great Joyce Gracie. Bottom line is this, put a prime Tyson against any of your strikers, and it's lights out for your trailer trash heros. Only 95% of the population agrees, but the local tough guys in Tapout Gear, tribal tatoos and beenies just don't seem to get it. Go count rocks boy, thats all you seem to be good for. ;)
Right, so if Crocop hit Tyson in the head with one of his upper kicks that smashes cement nothing would happen, huh? Tyson's head is harder than cement according to you. And also according to you, no grapler would manage to put Tyson on the ground and give him a submission hold? The former football player, Bob Sapp, who is 6'5 and weights 370 lbs lean pounds, got owned on the ground by Minotouro, a 5'10 195 lbs Brazilian and got his arm broken. Why couldn't this happen to tyson considering that he is shorter and arguably weaker than Sapp - unless you regard Tyson as stronger than 370 lbs lineman who could carry two men on his back.
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What part of Tyson beating up adults when he was 12 did you not catch?
Tyson didn't just fight in the ring... He walked down the street and BEAT PEOPLE UP.
He beat up the average 175 lbs male who didn't know how to fight. Any black belt in judo, jiu-jitsu or any of the grapling martial arts would have easily disposed of him. No question about it.
You can't compare the average 175 lbs male who has no idea how to throw a punch, kick or how to fight on the ground with an 220+ lbs MMA fighter who not only knows how to punch and kick, but also how to fight on the ground.
Tyson wouldn't even get close enough to Crocop to punch him; he would get a roundhouse kick to his ear that would make his brain shake inside his cranium and he would fall like a sack of potatoes to the floor. If he went against a prime Rickson, he would be on the floor getting chocked out before throwing the first punch. How many times must I repeat that boxers fail miserably against MMA fighters?
Mike Tyson:
- Superb punching skills.
- Can't kick
- No grapling/submission skills.
MMA fighter:
- Good punching skills.
- Good kicking skills.
- Good grapling/submission skills.
So who's the most complete fighter? ;)
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correct, in a fight that allows grappling and submission holds, a boxer who has no grappling back ground is going to lose more than he wins. I dont care who the boxer is.
Its not hard to tie up and wrestle with a boxer, there is no referee to break up "holding" in the mma.
Exactly. the Tyson supporters don't get this.
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Tyson is probably legitimately the only man you can actually say this was true for, he was 190 at 12-14 years old and was an enforcer for debt collectors, once in a lifetime physical specimen.
190 then? how much is he now, "490"? ::)
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He beat up the average 175 lbs male who didn't know how to fight. Any black belt in judo, jiu-jitsu or any of the grapling martial arts would have easily disposed of him. No question about it.
You can't compare the average 175 lbs male who has no idea how to throw a punch, kick or how to fight on the ground with an 220+ lbs MMA fighter who not only knows how to punch and kick, but also how to fight on the ground.
Tyson wouldn't even get close enough to Crocop to punch him; he would get a roundhouse kick to his ear that would make his brain shake inside his cranium and he would fall like a sack of potatoes to the floor. If he went against a prime Rickson, he would be on the floor getting chocked out before throwing the first punch. How many times must I repeat that boxers fail miserably against MMA fighters?
Mike Tyson:
- Superb punching skills.
- Can't kick
- No grapling/submission skills.
MMA fighter:
- Good punching skills.
- Good kicking skills.
- Good grapling/submission skills.
So who's the most complete fighter? ;)
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Right, so if Crocop hit Tyson in the head with one of his upper kicks that smashes cement nothing would happen, huh? Tyson's head is harder than cement according to you. And also according to you, no grapler would manage to put Tyson on the ground and give him a submission hold? The former football player, Bob Sapp, who is 6'5 and weights 370 lbs lean pounds, got owned on the ground by Minotouro, a 5'10 195 lbs Brazilian and got his arm broken. Why couldn't this happen to tyson considering that he is shorter and arguably weaker than Sapp - unless you regard Tyson as stronger than 370 lbs lineman who could carry two men on his back.
Let me guess, you are an MMA athlete. Probably headed to the gym in your under armour gear as I speak. Your like a broken record, damn you are dumb. 8)
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He beat up the average 175 lbs male who didn't know how to fight. Any black belt in judo, jiu-jitsu or any of the grapling martial arts would have easily disposed of him. No question about it.
You can't compare the average 175 lbs male who has no idea how to throw a punch, kick or how to fight on the ground with an 220+ lbs MMA fighter who not only knows how to punch and kick, but also how to fight on the ground.
Tyson wouldn't even get close enough to Crocop to punch him; he would get a roundhouse kick to his ear that would make his brain shake inside his cranium and he would fall like a sack of potatoes to the floor. If he went against a prime Rickson, he would be on the floor getting chocked out before throwing the first punch. How many times must I repeat that boxers fail miserably against MMA fighters?
Mike Tyson:
- Superb punching skills.
- Can't kick
- No grapling/submission skills.
MMA fighter:
- Good punching skills.
- Good kicking skills.
- Good grapling/submission skills.
So who's the most complete fighter? ;)
3......2.............1
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Chabal would tackle him and kick his ass. >:(
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Preach on... Tyson is so fast... so quick... hands of stone. There's not an MMA guy alive who could handle Tyson in his prime.
They act like Tyson only had hands and power.... The guy had footwork... had movement... The MMA guys would be in for a rude awakening if they tried to "take down" tyson.
I'd love to see a leg takedown from an MMA guy... Do you think he would be unconscious from a couple of Tyson shots to the head before or just after he had Tyson in his grasp?
Amen
A Prime 19-22 Tyson would Kill any man that stepped in his path.This MMA Bullshit is getting out of hand.
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The clear racism in the thread title disturbs me.
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The clear racism in the thread title disturbs me.
I it started and I'm a cracker so how is it racist?
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The heavyweight division was terribly weak weak when Tyson was in his prime, most of those spectacular knockouts were of tomato cans. Tyson got his ass kicked by a nobody-Buster Douglas, then couldnt beat Holyfield. He wasnt so great-just entertaining.
Some uninformed fans here. And it wouldnt shock me at all if Chabal tackled Tyson he probably would beat his fat little ass.
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The heavyweight division was terribly weak weak when Tyson was in his prime, most of those spectacular knockouts were of tomato cans. Tyson got his ass kicked by a nobody-Buster Douglas, then couldnt beat Holyfield. He wasnt so great-just entertaining.
Some uninformed fans here. And it wouldnt shock me at all if Chabal tackled Tyson he probably would beat his fat little ass.
You and cigaretteman need to get a room :-* I tell you what though, I would bet Tyson in his prime would have a lot easier time benchpressing 455 than your butt buddy Tim Tebow, sweetheart
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And it wouldnt shock me at all if Chabal tackled Tyson he probably would beat his fat little ass.
:D :D
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Heres Tyson getting knocked out like a little bitch by "Danny Williams", a tomato can ;D hahaha
Squadfat must be fighting with his mother over use of the television today, hes very emotional. Calm down lardass, there is life outside your mothers basement. ;D
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Heres Tyson getting knocked out like a little bitch by "Danny Williams", a tomato can ;D hahaha
Squadfat must be fighting with his mother over use of the television today, hes very emotional. Calm down lardass, there is life outside your mothers basement. ;D
Put a youtube shot up of Ken Shamrock getting wupped by Tito Ortiz when Shamrock was way past his prime. Same thing with the video you put up of Tyson, find some of Tyson before he ever won the title, the dude literally looked like he was going to knock your head off. According to you and that ball stroker Frenchie cigaretteman, Tyson would get killed by the kids on the UFC Reality show on Spike TV ::) Any luck ever breaking the hump on the 235 pound shrugs "Sirtraps"? You should at least be up to 250 by now, you manbearpigbeast you!
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Heres Tyson trying to take on one of the only legit heavyweights he ever fought, Lennox Lewis, and he goes down like a little bitch.
Squadfat, take a break from the internet and get out of your mothers basement. ;D You fat pile of shit.
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Heres Tyson trying to take on one of the only legit heavyweights he ever fought, Lennox Lewis, and he goes down like a little bitch.
Squadfat, take a break from the internet and get out of your mothers basement. ;D You fat pile of shit.
Hey dumbass Tyson was well past his prime even after prison!! Lewis couldn't touch a prime Mike Tyson!!
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no shit for brains, Tyson couldnt touch a Lennox Lewis in his prime-or any other good big heavyweight. Tyson fought a long list of tomato cans when the HW division was at its weakest. Tyson couldnt even beat Buster Douglas or Holyfield.
He was entertaining, but never really beat a good legit heavyweight.
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no shit for brains, Tyson couldnt touch a Lennox Lewis in his prime-or any other good big heavyweight. Tyson fought a long list of tomato cans when the HW division was at its weakest. Tyson couldnt even beat Buster Douglas or Holyfield.
He was entertaining, but never really beat a good legit heavyweight.
You should slit your wrists SirTits!!
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Shamrock was awesome in his prime. Tyson was awesome in his prime.
Later bouts do not do justice to either of them...Time waits for no man.
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Shamrock was awesome in his prime. Tyson was awesome in his prime.
Later bouts do not do justice to either of them...Time waits for no man.
plus he was just in those fights for the money.
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Let me guess, you are an MMA athlete. Probably headed to the gym in your under armour gear as I speak. Your like a broken record, damn you are dumb. 8)
Ya, what I thought. Since you are unable to refute anything I just wrote, you insult me and that's it, huh? I accept your admission of defeat. ;)
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Ya, what I thought. Since you are unable to refute anything I just wrote, you insult me and that's it, huh? I accept your admission of defeat. ;)
Are you a crackhead sir?
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Erm how do you KNOW Tyson cant kick? Look at those legs i would nt fancy a kick in the knee from one of those treetrunks, and as for fighting on the ground i imagine if you got Tyson on the ground he d just instinctively bite you anywhere including your nuts and when you let go hed KILL you.
This is a phenom who grew up on the streets who has pure hate in him, not some middle class tapout gear wearing office guy"who has a black belt"
Prime Tyson kills 99.999% of people that ever walked the Earth
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Erm how do you KNOW Tyson cant kick? Look at those legs i would nt fancy a kick in the knee from one of those treetrunks, and as for fighting on the ground i imagine if you got Tyson on the ground he d just instinctively bite you anywhere including your nuts and when you let go hed KILL you.
This is a phenom who grew up on the streets who has pure hate in him, not some middle class tapout gear wearing office guy"who has a black belt"
Prime Tyson kills 99.999% of people that ever walked the Earth
Nicely put!!
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I love these rich middle class office guys who claim they could kick anyones ass, there was a guy called Lenny Mclean who was like the UKs Kimbo and a guy i know locally who trains MMA (has never actually fought tho!) #, works for some insurance firm and comes from a rich family claims his "skills" mean hed choke Lenny out easily! ::)
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Erm how do you KNOW Tyson cant kick? Look at those legs i would nt fancy a kick in the knee from one of those treetrunks, and as for fighting on the ground i imagine if you got Tyson on the ground he d just instinctively bite you anywhere including your nuts and when you let go hed KILL you.
He never trained for kicking. His kicking skills are average at best. He is, after all, a boxer and not a kickboxer. And he can't fight on the ground. Period. Most fights end in the ground.
This is a phenom who grew up on the streets who has pure hate in him, not some middle class tapout gear wearing office guy"who has a black belt"
This is intangible. "Grown in the streets" is not a certificate of being able to fight. Any black belt would easily defeat 99.99% of guys who grew in the streets.
Prime Tyson kills 99.999% of people that ever walked the Earth
More like 99.9%. And top MMA fighters - not your average MMA practitioner - are included in those 0.1% that could defeat Tyson.
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I love these rich middle class office guys who claim they could kick anyones ass
Moron, no one is claiming that average MMA guys could defeat Tyson. I claimed that top MMA fighters could because they are more complete and can fight not only with their hands but also with their legs and on the floor, unlike Tyson. ;)
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Moron, no one is claiming that average MMA guys could defeat Tyson. I claimed that top MMA fighters could because they are more complete and can fight not only with their hands but also with their legs and ion the floor, unlike Tyson. ;)
bullshit.
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Are you a crackhead sir?
Your inability to debate me continues to entertain me. Keep it up. ;)
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? The former football player, Bob Sapp, who is 6'5 and weights 370 lbs lean pounds, got owned on the ground by Minotouro, a 5'10 195 lbs Brazilian and got his arm broken. Why couldn't this happen to tyson considering that he is shorter and arguably weaker than Sapp - unless you regard Tyson as stronger than 370 lbs lineman who could carry two men on his back.
WTF are you talking about ,Minotauro didn't break Sapp's arm ,and Nogueira is 6'3' around 240lbs, ::)
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bullshit.
Prove it. ;)
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Exactly. Tyson in his prime would defeat anyone easily fighting with the rules of boxing. It tells us nothing of how he would do in a no-holds-bare fight.
I stand by this, but one thing Tyson would have going for him is his agression. The dude is an animal from Bed Sty Brooklyn..
But I have a hard time believing that a grappler with fighting skills would even get close enough for Tyson to land a punch. Boxing is pretty limited, and the grappler/mma fighter would simply stay out of range and land a few blows on Tyson before grounding him.
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Prove it. ;)
yeah ok, i'll build a time machine and go back and talk Tyson into fighting Ken Shamrock, Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture. ::)
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Tyson was never the same after going to prison on those bullshit charges.
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I stand by this, but one thing Tyson would have going for him is his agression. The dude is an animal from Bed Sty Brooklyn..
But I have a hard time believing that a grappler with fighting skills would even get close enough for Tyson to land a punch. Boxing is pretty limited, and the grappler/mma fighter would simply stay out of range and land a few blows on Tyson before grounding him.
actually he was from Brownsville Brooklyn.
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Cigarettedouchebag, This was written by Beast8692, on the MMA board, when the guys over there also thought Tyson would get destroyed by an MMA guy. He is a little more precise than me. See the highlighted part, and think about that for 3 seconds and then pull your panties out of your twat
thing is, NOBODY just shoots in any more with the present top flight ma comps.
last guy i saw in an ma comp just using primarily shoot was kerr and don't forget 1. he was extremely quick (probably the most explosive and powerful shooter i've ever seen) 2. he was taking heavy doses of morphine and other pain killers to cope with eating strikes on the way in and 3. (most importantly) he NEVER faced a striker anywhere close to the timing, accuracy, power, balance and speed of foot and hand. no way on god's green earth would kerr shoot in on prime tyson with ease. no chance. no amount of morphine or steroids can stop your brain telling you it's time to go to sleep. tyson had perfectly timed and placed uppercuts, hooks, power in both hands, lateral movement (most striking opponents to kerr were straight ahead and up and down heavy weight kick boxers = lunch meat for kerr where one foot in air just meant easier take down..
i totally agree (as i have previously stated) that tyson is dead on the ground with a good grappler, but the theory that you just walk in and take prime tyson down is typical 5:30pm class bjj propoganda. the only guys i ever here completely dismissing a phenom like tyson are the delusional 3 times a week bjj champs that have never been in a full contact bout in their lives. they get deluded by their own hype.
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yeah ok, i'll build a time machine and go back and talk Tyson into fighting Ken Shamrock, Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture. ::)
HAHA Best quote of the thread!!
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Hey dumbass Tyson was well past his prime even after prison!! Lewis couldn't touch a prime Mike Tyson!!
Prime Tyson fought Lewis and beat the crap out of him.
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Prime Tyson fought Lewis and beat the crap out of him.
When they were teens?
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yo u muther fuker u wudnt tlk like dat in my neighborhud me n my niggas wud fuk u up .. b carful bitch
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what?
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what?
The comments for that video are better than the video itself ;D
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;)
just looking at that bastard is enough to make you piss yourself. :o
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That video is all well and good, but I'm sure Trailer Park Chuck and Wanderlei Cromagnun Silva would rock Tyson, you know, because they can kick....and....stuff
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8)
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That video is all well and good, but I'm sure Trailer Park Chuck and Wanderlei Cromagnun Silva would rock Tyson, you know, because they can kick....and....stuff
thanks to MMA now all the 187 pound skinny/fat trailer park mullett wearing clowns in 1981 El Camino's with the wallet with the steel chain in the back pocket have someplace to fight other than Bud's Corner tavern.
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thanks to MMA now all the 187 pound skinny/fat trailer park mullett wearing clowns in 1981 El Camino's with the wallet with the steel chain in the back pocket have someplace to fight other than Bud's Corner tavern.
You forgot the punching bag on the front porch of the trailer!!
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You forgot the punching bag on the front porch of the trailer!!
hahahhaha, and the 302 pound wife with a black eye in the kitchen.
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Sad.
that's like posting a video of Willie Mays languishing in center field for the New York Mets in 1972 at the end of his career a shadow of his former self and saying "sad". ::)
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that's like posting a video of Wille Mays languishing in center field for the New York Mets in 1972 at the end of his career a shadow of his former self and saying "sad". ::)
Chabal would destroy this pussy, and yes, at his "prime".
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Chabal would destroy this pussy, and yes, at his "prime".
hahahhahaa, keep sucking on that glass dick it's doing wonders for your powers of perception. ;D
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hahahhahaa, keep sucking on that glass dick it's doing wonders for your powers of perception. ;D
He's only 1m82, he wouldn't even be able to reach his knee.
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hahahhaha, and the 302 pound wife with a black eye in the kitchen.
and kids like this......
(http://i27.tinypic.com/a2dohv.jpg)
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and kids like this......
(http://i27.tinypic.com/a2dohv.jpg)
;D
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No matter who would win in a fight between Tyson and Fedor and so on (fedor would win 8) ), Tyson was a true beast, and an ultra skilled fighter. A legend.
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No matter who would win in a fight between Tyson and Fedor and so on (fedor would win 8) ), Tyson was a true beast, and an ultra skilled fighter. A legend.
Above post = truth. Many a fighter back in the day, was just happy to collect the paycheck from fighting Tyson, I don't believe many if any thought they would win. Buster Douglas was even surprised with the outcome.
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Cigarettedouchebag, This was written by Beast8692, on the MMA board, when the guys over there also thought Tyson would get destroyed by an MMA guy. He is a little more precise than me. See the highlighted part, and think about that for 3 seconds and then pull your panties out of your twat
thing is, NOBODY just shoots in any more with the present top flight ma comps.
last guy i saw in an ma comp just using primarily shoot was kerr and don't forget 1. he was extremely quick (probably the most explosive and powerful shooter i've ever seen) 2. he was taking heavy doses of morphine and other pain killers to cope with eating strikes on the way in and 3. (most importantly) he NEVER faced a striker anywhere close to the timing, accuracy, power, balance and speed of foot and hand. no way on god's green earth would kerr shoot in on prime tyson with ease. no chance. no amount of morphine or steroids can stop your brain telling you it's time to go to sleep. tyson had perfectly timed and placed uppercuts, hooks, power in both hands, lateral movement (most striking opponents to kerr were straight ahead and up and down heavy weight kick boxers = lunch meat for kerr where one foot in air just meant easier take down..
i totally agree (as i have previously stated) that tyson is dead on the ground with a good grappler, but the theory that you just walk in and take prime tyson down is typical 5:30pm class bjj propoganda. the only guys i ever here completely dismissing a phenom like tyson are the delusional 3 times a week bjj champs that have never been in a full contact bout in their lives. they get deluded by their own hype.
Unless you can prove that no way no how would a grapler be able to take tyson to the ground, then you have no argument. All Tyson can do is throw punches. He is hopeless on the ground. In fact, Tyson is at a severe disadvantage when it comes to fighting MMA strikers like Crocop, because these guys can strike with their legs which Tyson can't, and the legs can strike from a greater distance than the arms. Answer me what would happen if Crocop landed one of his roundhouse kicks to Tyson's ears. Answer: he would be knocked out unconscious to the ground. You are also assuming that it is a certain thing that Tyson would lend a punch on the grapler before the latter takes him to the ground, and that is a big assumption. Rickson fought over 100 fights against boxers, and he managed to get them on the ground each and every single time before the boxer could lend a punch on him. You make big assumptions and leave it a that. You have proven nothing, really. ;)
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Unless you can prove that no way no how would a grapler be able to take tyson to the ground, then you have no argument. All Tyson can do is throw punches. He is hopeless on the ground. In fact, Tyson is at a severe disadvantage when it comes to fighting MMA strikers like Crocop, because these guys can strike with their legs which Tyson can't, and the legs can strike from a greater distance than the arms. Answer me what would happen if Crocop landed one of his roundhouse kicks to Tyson's ears. Answer: he would be knocked out unconscious to the ground. You are also assuming that it is a certain thing that Tyson would lend a punch on the grapler before the latter takes him to the ground, and that is a big assumption. Rickson fought over 100 fights against boxers, and he managed to get them on the ground each and every single time before the boxer could lend a punch on him. You make big assumptions and leave it a that. You have proven nothing, really. ;)
How can you prove that he has no ground game? Because you've only 'seen' him box? How do you know he can't deal with a grappler?
You're making assumptions based upon no information at all, and that's a dumb thing.
Look at it this way... When Tyson was Prime... I didn't see anyone stepping up to take him on... Hell, it's 20 years later and I STILL don't see a lot of people trying to step up to Tyson... That fucker is STILL scary.
Why not one of these guys do it NOW... he's old, can't possibly do any damage, and he needs to get paid, but I haven't seen anyone step to Tyson and say... PLEASE.
If one of the top names stood up and talked shit to Tyson now... Don't you think he'd step into ring with them? This is Tyson we're talking about... He'll fight a Lion if you pay him.
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How can you prove that he has no ground game? Because you've only 'seen' him box? How do you know he can't deal with a grappler?
Because he can't possibly be equal on the ground to a black belt who trains hours a day for fighting on the ground. Are you saying that Tyson can go toe-to-toe on the ground against a Gracie? Lol, that's dumb. What training does he have on the ground? The one he got living on the mean streets of New York? "Sigh"
You're making assumptions based upon no information at all, and that's a dumb thing.
The irony of you saying that...
Look at it this way... When Tyson was Prime... I didn't see anyone stepping up to take him on... Hell, it's 20 years later and I STILL don't see a lot of people trying to step up to Tyson... That fucker is STILL scary.
A bunch of anectodal evidence with no substantiation. You have proven yourself to be a fan-boy, nothing more. Just because he could box better than everyone else doesen't mean he could fight overral better than everyone else.
If one of the top names stood up and talked shit to Tyson now... Don't you think he'd step into ring with them? This is Tyson we're talking about... He'll fight a Lion if you pay him.
And the lion will have a nice dinner, I suppose. Seriously, dude, you are hero-worshipping Tyson toa ridiculous degree. Your entire argument can be summarized by:
"OhmeGod!!!!! Tyson is so cool and tough and he punches so hard, nop one could ever take him in a fight even if they don't have to follow boxing rules."
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Hell yeah!!
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Because he can't possibly be equal on the ground to a black belt who trains hours a day for fighting on the ground. Are you saying that Tyson can go toe-to-toe on the ground against a Gracie? Lol, that's dumb. What training does he have on the ground? The one he got living on the mean streets of New York? "Sigh"
The irony of you saying that...
A bunch of anectodal evidence with no substantiation. You have proven yourself to be a fan-boy, nothing more. Just because he could box better than everyone else doesen't mean he could fight overral better than everyone else.
And the lion will have a nice dinner, I suppose. Seriously, dude, you are hero-worshipping Tyson toa ridiculous degree. Your entire argument can be summarized by:
"OhmeGod!!!!! Tyson is so cool and tough and he punches so hard, nop one could ever take him in a fight even if they don't have to follow boxing rules."
Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.
You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.
He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.
It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.
Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.
The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.
Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.
What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."
So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?
Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.
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Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.
You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.
He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.
It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.
Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.
The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.
Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.
What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."
So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?
Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.
Preach Preach!!
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"I had Mike sparring 10 rounds everyday... 5 days a week! It was an all out war EVERYDAY. There was none of that one day on and one day off crap. To be a great fighter... you have to spar. You gotta spar everyday, day in and day out, week after week. With Mike, I would spar him up until two or three days before a fight."
~ Kevin Rooney
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Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.
You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.
He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.
It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.
Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.
The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.
Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.
What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."
So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?
Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.
Don't waste your time Holmes, this dude is so delusional, he would put Chris Lebon in the ring with a 19 year old Tyson and still claim Tyson would be a sitting duck. I really, really hope Brock Lesner and Kimbo rule the UFC in the future, just to show these emos how easy it is for any fighter to excel in this "sport".
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Yeah most people only know of the post prison Tyson! They should do their research!
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Don't waste your time Holmes, this dude is so delusional, he would put Chris Lebon in the ring with a 19 year old Tyson and still claim Tyson would be a sitting duck. I really, really hope Brock Lesner and Kimbo rule the UFC in the future, just to show these emos how easy it is for any fighter to excel in this "sport".
Yeah, I'm done... I've laid out all of the facts, if people want to believe that their favorite MMA guy would beat up Tyson, then let them... Tyson has proven his skills many times over, I don't have to vouch for him.
I'll say this.
I'm no bad ass... but I'm not "afraid" of too many people...
Tyson, when I met him, scared the shit out of me. You know how you can look at a person's eyes and kind of see how they are... All I saw was crazy... CRAZY.
Truly a beast.
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True badass!! 8)
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Tyson was not a great fighter, only a great boxer. Almost any MMA fighter in his weight class could have chopped him down with leg kicks and submitted him. The hero worship here is truly embarrassing. :-\
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Tyson was not a great fighter, only a great boxer. Almost any MMA fighter in his weight class could have chopped him down with leg kicks and submitted him. The hero worship here is truly embarrassing. :-\
Tyson wasn't a great fighter? Are you kidding?
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Tyson wasn't a great fighter? Are you kidding?
i agree great fighter not a great boxer skill wise,after 1990 loss and jail stint never the same especially against taller and more skilled fighter like say holyfield,holyfield was conditioned to box his way through,dance and stretch the rounds and use corners,mike got antsy to get the big blow which at this point in his career is all he had,when he got frustrated he low blowed,or bit lol..like holyfields ear like a mrs fields peanut butter cookie.soft and chewy.
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He won the title at 20!
Unified all the belts!
Turned pro at 18!
Tyson was not a great boxer huh!! ::)
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He won the title at 20!
Unified all the belts!
Turned pro at 18!
Tyson was not a great boxer huh!! ::)
dude he was great and lethal at that age but he was ruined after losing to buster douglass..skills were never the same,beating lou savarese,botha,is not the same as crushing berbick,bonecrusher smith,bruno,spinks,
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yeah ok, i'll build a time machine and go back and talk Tyson into fighting Ken Shamrock, Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture. ::)
Lmao..that would end this thread finally. ;D
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Lmao..that would end this thread finally. ;D
Yeah I know this fucking thing is never gonna stop!!
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Tyson was a great talent, but HW division was terribly weak in that era. Some of these comments are ridiculous.
Why do you think that no pro boxer has crossed over to mma ? how about the middle of the pack boxers who arent making much money in boxing ? They should be able to dominate right ?
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Tyson was a great talent, but HW division was terribly weak in that era. Some of these comments are ridiculous.
Why do you think that no pro boxer has crossed over to mma ? how about the middle of the pack boxers who arent making much money in boxing ? They should be able to dominate right ?
Uh... no... We're talking about Tyson... no one else.
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why not anyone else ? ::) Tyson wasnt necessaily the greatest boxer ever, why not other boxers ?
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why not anyone else ? ::) Tyson wasnt necessaily the greatest boxer ever, why not other boxers ?
Because Tyson was a fighter... and Ali said he was the greatest ever... so that's enough for me.
Tyson is much more than a boxer... He's an animal.
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no, hes very human. Here he is getting his ass kicked.
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no, hes very human. Here he is getting his ass kicked.
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The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.
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The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.
I'd say Mike Tyson brought Mike Tyson down. Robin Givens...haha, what a waste. She didn't even have a B rack. ;D
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The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.
the say irony is that women do this all he time :-\
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Very true.
Mike just didn't listen to the people who were trying to tell him the truth about her. He let her fuck up the business relationship with Bill Cayton and he let her fuck up the friendship/relationship with Kevin Rooney.
In late 1987, Mike was dating Robin, Miss U.S.A. Suzette Charles, and supermodel Naomi Campbell at the same time. He invited all three to his fight against Tony Tucker. Bill Cayton had them sit in separate parts of the arena so that the three wouldn't be in close proximity to each other.
Robin knew she needed a hook. She told Mike she was pregnant. Rooney called her out because he knew she faked the pregnancy to get Mike to marry her. Mike fired Kevin for it. Three fights later, James Douglas knocked Mike out.
This was the big mistake. Cus D'Amato loved Rooney and taught Kevin everything he knew. In my opinion, Kevin was a far better trainer than Teddy Atlas. If Mike had listened to the right people, I'd say there was a good chance he could've retired undefeated. And if he gave up the thug life that Don King helped perpetuate, he'd still have gobs of cash, be widely respected, and his life wouldn't be the train wreck it is now.
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lol this is a funny thread.
put it this way if tyson vs wandy or mirko in the octagon or the ring or the street he will kill them.
i would love to see mirko try to even attempt a hi kick to tyson. not only would he bop and weave but he will come in with a killer combo to give mirko and give a whole new meaning for getting KTFO
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Prime Tyson is a great BOXER..... but if he steps in the cage fighting mma rules WITHOUT TRAINING......the odds might be too much against him....although what he needs is just ONE good jab and his combos will be fatal with mma gloves. :(
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Prime Tyson is a great BOXER..... but if he steps in the cage fighting mma rules WITHOUT TRAINING......the odds might be too much against him....although what he needs is just ONE good jab and his combos will be fatal with mma gloves. :(
He was such a fast puncher!
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I challenge him to a fight >:(
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I challenge him to a fight >:(
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He was such a fast puncher!
those clips you posted are sped up.
hope this helps.
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those clips you posted are sped up.
hope this helps.
You suck dick! Hope this helps!
Best wishes,
Epic
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Jimmy Thompson would kick all their asses!
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Didnt Jimmy Thompson say Tyson was in the hospital because Don King shoved a GI Joe action figure up Tyson's rectum ? ???
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Didnt Jimmy Thompson say Tyson was in the hospital because Don King shoved a GI Joe action figure up Tyson's rectum ? ???
OK ::)
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Didnt Jimmy Thompson say Tyson was in the hospital because Don King shoved a GI Joe action figure up Tyson's rectum ? ???
WTF? hahahahahahaha
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WTF? hahahahahahaha
Exactly!!
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Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy
No, dude. I have already stated that Tyson could win. It is you who claims that no way, no how would a top MMA fighter defeat him.
who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.
The greatest boxer. Don't forget that. Boxers are extremely incomplete fighters.
You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.
Redundant. All the top MMA fighters have stood toe-to-toe with guys considered tough and defeated them.
He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.
Yes, in the ring against guys who were much better trained, stronger and conditioned than the guys Tyson beat on the streets. And BTW, the only rules in MMA are no fngers in the eye or kicks to the groin.
It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.
The difference being that Bruce Lee won fights with no rules, contrary to Tyson who we've only seen win fights with the rules of boxing.
Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.
Bla bla bla! How many more times will you bring this shit up as if it had any relevance when it comes to fighting guys who are infinitely stronger, more physically conditioned and who can fight better than the guys Tyson fought on the street?
The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.
First of all, I doubt Tyson fought guys with knives or guns with his bare fists. And you're right that the octagon is not the street: it is a place where your opponents are much better at fighting, stronger and tougher than your average street brawler. You're so hang up on this whole street thing that it seems like to you every street thug has the ground fighting skills of a jiu-jitsu black belt.
Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.
Actually, a 7'5 Korean who fights on K1 - forgot his name challenger Tyson, and he backed off like a frightened little girl.
What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."
Another one of your redundant bullshit. Tyson is the man in boxing, and nothing more. Boxing. He's not the man when it comes to no-holds-bare fighting, where you can also use your legs and can throw your opponent to the ground.
So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?
Again, Tyson has been challenged, and he backed off. Rickson Gracie said in an interview that he's willing to fight anyone, and when they asked about Tyson, he said he would probably defeat him.
Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.
Keep worshipping the drug-addicted canibal rapist. He is very good at beating people with his fists - especially women -, but I would like to see what he'll do when one of the Gracies is chocking him on the ground. Let's see what his boxing skills are good for then. ;)
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No, dude. I have already stated that Tyson could win. It is you who claims that no way, no how would a top MMA fighter defeat him.
The greatest boxer. Don't forget that. Boxers are extremely incomplete fighters.
Redundant. All the top MMA fighters have stood toe-to-toe with guys considered tough and defeated them.
Yes, in the ring against guys who were much better trained, stronger and conditioned than the guys Tyson beat on the streets. And BTW, the only rules in MMA are no fngers in the eye or kicks to the groin.
The difference being that Bruce Lee won fights with no rules, contrary to Tyson who we've only seen win fights with the rules of boxing.
Bla bla bla! How many more times will you bring this shit up as if it had any relevance when it comes to fighting guys who are infinitely stronger, more physically conditioned and who can fight better than the guys Tyson fought on the street?
First of all, I doubt Tyson fought guys with knives or guns with his bare fists. And you're right that the octagon is not the street: it is a place where your opponents are much better at fighting, stronger and tougher than your average street brawler. You're so hang up on this whole street thing that it seems like to you every street thug has the ground fighting skills of a jiu-jitsu black belt.
Actually, a 7'5 Korean who fights on K1 - forgot his name challenger Tyson, and he backed off like a frightened little girl.
Another one of your redundant bullshit. Tyson is the man in boxing, and nothing more. Boxing. He's not the man when it comes to no-holds-bare fighting, where you can also use your legs and can throw your opponent to the ground.
Again, Tyson has been challenged, and he backed off. Rickson Gracie said in an interview that he's willing to fight anyone, and when they asked about Tyson, he said he would probably defeat him.
Keep worshipping the drug-addicted canibal rapist. He is very good at beating people with his fists - especially women -, but I would like to see what he'll do when one of the Gracies is chocking him on the ground. Let's see what his boxing skills are good for then. ;)
Wow... all of that just to say that you really do think Tyson would win... well, ok then.
Where is this backdown of Tyson you speak of... I'm sure it's all over if he backed down like that.
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Tyson was not a great fighter, only a great boxer. Almost any MMA fighter in his weight class could have chopped him down with leg kicks and submitted him. The hero worship here is truly embarrassing. :-\
I agree, dude. The really funny thing is that they believe that saying that their opponent stupid and and that he has no idea what he's talking about makes them "win" the argument.
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I agree, dude. The really funny thing is that they believe that proclaiming to have won the argument because their opponent is stupid and doesen't what he's talking about is winning the argument.
WTF does this even mean?
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Wow... all of that just to say that you really do think Tyson would win... well, ok then.
Where is this backdown of Tyson you speak of... I'm sure it's all over if he backed down like that.
Moron, I said Tyson could win. My argument, however, is that he probably wouldn't, because MMA fighters can kick much better than Tyson and can fight on the ground much better as well. It is you, a fanatic, who refuses to acknowledge event the possibility that Tyson would lose against a top MMA fighter.
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Moron, I said Tyson could win. My argument, however, is that he probably wouldn't, because MMA fighters can kick much better than Tyson and can fight on the ground much better as well. It is you, a fanatic, who refuses to acknowledge event the possibility that Tyson would lose against a top MMA fighter.
Okee dokee then.
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Okee dokee then.
So you do admit that a top MMA fighter could take Tyson out? ;)
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So you do admit that a top MMA fighter could take Tyson out? ;)
With a Brick... sure.
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With a Brick... sure.
Nah, a submission hold will do it... ;)
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Nah, a submission hold will do it... ;)
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The fact kimbo slice is just basically a boxer and has whooped his first 2 UFC opponents speaks volumes.
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The fact kimbo slice is just basically a boxer and has whooped his first 2 UFC opponents speaks volumes.
Yeah but imagine what a prime 21-22 year old Tyson could have done!
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I agree, dude. The really funny thing is that they believe that saying that their opponent stupid and and that he has no idea what he's talking about makes them "win" the argument.
It really is like these guys missed the early days of the UFC. My favorite is the claim that Tyson would kill people with 4-ounce gloves. Who has he killed with a punch barehanded? ::)
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The fact kimbo slice is just basically a boxer and has whooped his first 2 UFC opponents speaks volumes.
He has never fought in the UFC ::) He's beaten a washed-up boxer and a washed-up stand-up fighter in Tank Abbott ::)
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SO whos this "7 foot 5 Korean" Tyson "ran from"
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at 19-22 or so tyson could easily kill any man on the planet regardless of size or martial art skills
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ;D
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SO whos this "7 foot 5 Korean" Tyson "ran from"
Hong Man Choi, or something like that.
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SO whos this "7 foot 5 Korean" Tyson "ran from"
He hardly ran!! ::)
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It really is like these guys missed the early days of the UFC. My favorite is the claim that Tyson would kill people with 4-ounce gloves. Who has he killed with a punch barehanded? ::)
Exactly! These guys are delusional. Boxers are extremely incomplete fighters and get owned by graplers at every fight. I saw the 5'10, 175 lbs Ryce Gracie defeat so many boxers, strongman and other huge guys who thought that strengh and punching ability are the end all be all of fighting that it is not even funy. I believe that any black belt in jiu-jitsu would own Tyson, and kickboxers also have a great chance because their ability to kick gives them a huge advantage over Tyson. All Tyson can do is throw punches, and a guy who can only thow punches is at a severe disadvantage against guys who can also fight with their legs and on the floor.
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He hardly ran!!
That is not the challenge I was talking about. And Sapp would defeat Tyson in a no-holds-bared fight. He is stronger than Tyson, can fight on the ground and can kick.
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Exactly! These guys are delusional. Boxers are extremely incomplete fighters and get owned by graplers at every fight. I saw the 5'10, 175 lbs Ryce Gracie defeat so many boxers, strongman and other huge guys who fought that strengh and punching ability are the end all be all of fighting that it is not even funy. I believe that any black belt in jiu-jitsu would own Tyson, and kickboxers also have a great chance because their ability to kick gives them a huge advantage over Tyson. All Tyson can do is throw punches, and a guy who can only thow punches is at a severe disadvantage against guys who can also fight with their legs and on the floor.
You are an ingnorant french panty waste whose ass would be kicked easily by any backwoods Bubba or any Tyrone from the hood. You MMA punks are all the same, thinking you and you kind are invincible, then get in a real fight, and get owned everytime. Same with Tyson sweetheart, he'd own your family of trailer park heros, get over it and back to your janitorial duties dumb dumb. :-*
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That is not the challenge I was talking about. And Sapp would defeat Tyson in a no-holds-bared fight. He is stronger than Tyson, can fight on the ground and can kick.
Exactly, and Tyson specified that he would fight only under boxing rules. I don't see why it is considered an insult to Tyson to say that he was an excellent boxer, but was not well-versed in many aspects of fighting. ???
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That is not the challenge I was talking about. And Sapp would defeat Tyson in a no-holds-bared fight. He is stronger than Tyson, can fight on the ground and can kick.
I bet you wear a Tapout skull cap when you do your kicks in front of the dumbbell rack?
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I bet you wear a Tapout skull cap when you do your kicks in front of the dumbbell rack?
Oh man, you know he does. Tribal tatoos on both arms, full tapout gear, endless sparring with the mirror and last but not least, homoerotic rolling around on the floor with another sweaty man all in the name of "training".
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You are an ingnorant french panty waste whose ass would be kicked easily by any backwoods Bubba or any Tyrone from the hood. You MMA punks are all the same, thinking you and you kind are invincible, then get in a real fight, and get owned everytime.
No, boxers get owned by guys who can fight on the ground every time. Heavyweight boxers entered the early editions of the UFC and got easily defeated once the other guy took them to the ground.
Same with Tyson sweetheart, he'd own your family of trailer park heros, get over it and back to your janitorial duties dumb dumb. :-*
What have I already told you about personal insults making you look stupid and like you're losing the argument? Your trailer park insults are not even funny. It is obvious that you are unintelligent and lack the intellectual capacity to debate me; hence, the insults. ;) I'm sorry to inform you, but calling your opponent names doesen't make you win the argument, but is actually an admission of defeat. Have a nice evening.
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I bet you wear a Tapout skull cap when you do your kicks in front of the dumbbell rack?
Yada yada yada...more ad hominem invective from those who can't debate me. You have done nothing to disprove anything I wrote and have only proven that my arguments were well made. And I bet you have a man-crush on Tyson. Maybe time to get out of the closet? ;)
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What point did you prove? Nothing!! Hope this helps! ;)
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He hardly ran!! ::)
Haha... Tyson laughed at Sapp.
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No, boxers get owned by guys who can fight on the ground every time. Heavyweight boxers entered the early editions of the UFC and got easily defeated once the other guy took them to the ground.
What have I already told you about personal insults making you look stupid and like you're losing the argument? Your trailer park insults are not even funny. It is obvious that you are unintelligent and lack the intellectual capacity to debate me; hence, the insults. ;) I'm sorry to inform you, but calling your opponent names doesen't make you win the argument, but is actually an admission of defeat. Have a nice evening.
Oh my, you are a much bigger french douche than I originally thought. This is getbig genious, not mental chess. Get that dildo out of your butt and chill out gloria, it ain't that serious! If you are still confused, read this http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=208224.0 Oh yeah, TYSON OWNS YOU,YOUR MIND AND YOUR MMGAY HEROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DOUCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What point did you prove? Nothing!! Hope this helps! ;)
I have proven that, judging by the statistics of what happens when boxers fight graplers and kickboxers, odds are that Tyson would lose. My argument is much better than yours. All you do is point out that Tyson is the best boxer ever and make the faulty assumptions that growing in the streets of New Yorks makes one as good as fighting on the groung as a jiu-jitsu black belt. Yeah, right! If the other guy manages to take Tyson to the ground, Tyson is finished. You have done nothing to prove otherwise. ;)
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I have proven that, judging by the statistics of what happens when boxers fight graplers and kickboxers, odds are that Tyson would lose. My argument is much better than yours. All you do is point out that Tyson is the best boxer ever and make the faulty assumptions that growing in the streets of New Yorks makes one as good as fighting on the groung as a jiu-jitsu black belt. Yeah, right! If the other guy manages to take Tyson to the ground, Tyson is finished. You have done nothing to prove otherwise. ;)
Do you have a fucking time machine? If so could I borrow it?
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Oh my, you are a much bigger french douche than I originally thought. This is getbig genious, not mental chess. Get that dildo out of your butt and chill out gloria, it ain't that serious! If you are still confused, read this http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=208224.0 Oh yeah, TYSON OWNS YOU,YOUR MIND AND YOUR MMGAY HEROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DOUCHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is trolling 101. Those who are interested in learning how to be better trolls should seek the advice of "thelamefalsehood". He certainly can't give lessons on rhetoric, logical thinking skills or fighting. ;)
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is trolling 101. Those who are interested in learning how to be better trolls should seek the advice of "thelamefalsehood". He certainly can't give lessons on rhetoric, logical thinking skills or fighting. ;)
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Do you have a fucking time machine? If so could I borrow it?
Neither of us have time machines, which is why we are assuming what would happen based on the statistics of boxers vs MMA fighters, which massively favors the latter.
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Neither of us have time machines, which is why we are assuming what would happen based on the statistics of boxers vs MMA fighters, which massively favors the latter.
hahahahahaha debate till the end I love it!! ;)
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hahahahahaha debate till the end I love it!! ;)
Are you denying that Tyson would get owned on the ground by a jiu-jitsu black belt? ;)
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Cormier would kick Tysons ass.
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No, boxers get owned by guys who can fight on the ground every time. Heavyweight boxers entered the early editions of the UFC and got easily defeated once the other guy took them to the ground.
What have I already told you about personal insults making you look stupid and like you're losing the argument? Your trailer park insults are not even funny. It is obvious that you are unintelligent and lack the intellectual capacity to debate me; hence, the insults. ;) I'm sorry to inform you, but calling your opponent names doesen't make you win the argument, but is actually an admission of defeat. Have a nice evening.
A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.
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A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.
exactly!!
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This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.
Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.
this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.
Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.
i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.
it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.
Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.
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A top MMA fighter (Fedor for instance) would win a fight (mma) even with Tyson in his prime, off course because of the advantage of ground game...Any moment exchanging punches with Tyson, it would be death for sure for Tyson´s oponent. Tyson would probably became K1 champion very fast, even without any ability to kick ...
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This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.
Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.
this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.
Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.
i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.
it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.
Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.
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good comment ;)
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A prime Mike Tyson 19 to 23 was so far advanced of any other boxer its unwise to compare him to any other MMA athlete.Average boxers would have a hard time with a technical MMA fighter i half agree with you.
Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.
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Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.
This thread is going in circles I love it!!!!
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This thread is going in circles I love it!!!!
It's the next "Hulkster...truce" thread. ::)
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It's the next "Hulkster...truce" thread. ::)
It was dead a long time ago...
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Here is what happens when a very good kickboxer fights a good MMA guy.....he looks like he has never fought before.
Now, Tyson was better at boxing than this guy is at kickboxing, but it is the closest comparison I could find.
Tyson was absolutely remarkable. He kills >99.99% of people that have ever, or will ever walk on Earth. But fighting has evolved..and left boxing in the past.
An Olympic caliber wrestler with ground skills that can take a serious punch will be tyson 9/10 times. Not that a whole lot of these types of people exist...
Just to show some of his highlights. Note the Mirko knockout.
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Fighting an MMA guy
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By the way, "beating up people in the street" has absolutely no bearing on anything. It is stupid to even mention.
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This topic comes up every few months. The one thing that made Tyson so great was his amazing hand speed, foot work and the ability to weave away from any punch. A prime Tyson could easily defeat any of the MMA fighters listed ONLY if he stayed at a distance and waited for openings so he could counter. Due to Tyson's aggressive fighting style i also could see him getting taken down and submitted very easily when attempting to bum rush his opponent like he was known to do.
Now the argument about kickboxers is a valid one but Tyson was known to weave his way quickly past the reach of men who had a reach 12" longer than his. so i believe a prime Tyson could defend and weave his way past a few high kicks and KO almost any kickboxer on the planet. but again a top ranked kickboxer could still KO Tyson with a lucky head kick.
this entire argument is stupid, Tyson trained for "boxing" and was one of the best boxers of all time during his prime. he was never a MMA fighter and never trained for wrestling so a good MMA guy could easily defeat him ONLY if they took him down. i seriously doubt any current MMA fighter would last toe to toe with Tyson and those 4oz gloves.
Anyone who thinks they know the answer to this question is only fooling themselves. not a single person on this earth knows what would happen if a prime Tyson went up against a top ranked MMA heavyweight.
i will say that based on the speed and amazing footwork of Tyson i don't see him being taken down very easily like some of you MMA guys claim. Tyson in his early years jumped around the ring faster than any MMA guy I've seen in my entire life. he was simply too damn fast for any man to even attempt to take down in his prime. a MMA guy could only wait until Tyson rushed in with a deadly combo and "then" attempt a take down once mike was in close. i don't see anyone chasing Tyson and taking him down, he was one of the fastest boxers on his feet to ever step in the ring and I'm sure with years of street fighting experience he knew how to stuff a take down.
it could go either way, the determining factor is IF he is taken down. if taken down he would lose, if he stayed up toe to toe he would easily win. I've seen many of the top ranked MMA heavyweights have serious problems taking down guys with subpar skill levels so Tyson might get lucky...just my .02 as a Tyson fan for 20 years.
Also, Tyson's level of hand speed and footwork has never been seen in MMA and probably never will be seen.
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Good post. However,
Tyson NEVER looked for kicks. Sure he was very fast and probably could avoid them. BUT, he would have to train for it...and train to specifically counter kicks.
He would defeat any MMA guy standing, barring an unexpected head kick. But not a single person would ever be dumb enough to try to stand with him. It would be difficult for Tyson to stay on his feet.
And staying standing when an Olympic caliber wrestler is trying to take you down is very, very hard.
Also, large gloves protect the hands. They hardly soften the punch. The only thing different about getting hit with a 4 ounce glove if it is coming from Tyson is that he would probably break his hand. You are getting KTFO either way.
Remember one of the only street fights Tyson was involved in without gloves during his career he broke his hand. He broke it because he wasn't wearing gloves. The fucker punches too hard for his own bones to stand up to. Scary.
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Why he can take a punch!
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That's not 50cent.
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He can't quite cope.
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That's not 50cent.
That's Iron Mike!!
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Why he can take a punch!
Redundant?
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He can't quite cope.
Brutal attempt at posting a video!!
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Unless you can demonstrate that he has ground fighting skills as well as leg kicking skills, then he's just a boxer. Again, you guys are assuming that Tyson will manage to hit a punch on his opponent before the latter throws Tyson to the ground, and that's by no means a certain thing. When Tyson hits the ground, he's finished.
Maurice Green was a Kickboxer that won against Specialist MMA fighter Mark "Hammer" Coleman about 5 years back, This fight was defining in Mike Tyson favour, Green had never been put on the ground as a distinguished career as a world champion kickboxer,But 3 months of learning the ground game he over came Coleman and won.Being the athlete Tyson was give him 3 months training on the ground this would nullify any MMA athletes head start imagine Tyson with a competent ground game and any MMA athlete would be toast.Kicking in all the MMA fighting is nor here or there Tyson was able to dodge punchers from guys who had amazing reach.
Mike Tyson at his prime with 3 months of ground fighting capabilities is only fair in the eqaution of Tyson fighting an MMA athlete, risking his title as a man killer.
Tyson is now to old to fight the passion and the spark has left him but Tyson in his prime taught ground skills is only fair in a imaginary fight with the best MMA fighter.
You workout the outcome over 5 rounds where the MMA athlete would have to put him on the ground 5 consecutive times to win the fight its not going to happen.
LIGHTS OUT MMA athlete.
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Maurice Green was a Kickboxer that won against Specialist MMA fighter Mark "Hammer" Coleman about 5 years back, This fight was defining in Mike Tyson favour, Green had never been put on the ground as a distinguished career as a world champion kickboxer,But 3 months of learning the ground game he over came Coleman and won.Being the athlete Tyson was give him 3 months training on the ground this would nullify any MMA athletes head start imagine Tyson with a competent ground game and any MMA athlete would be toast.Kicking in all the MMA fighting is nor here or there Tyson was able to dodge punchers from guys who had amazing reach.
Mike Tyson at his prime with 3 months of ground fighting capabilities is only fair in the eqaution of Tyson fighting an MMA athlete, risking his title as a man killer.
Tyson is now to old to fight the passion and the spark has left him but Tyson in his prime taught ground skills is only fair in a imaginary fight with the best MMA fighter.
You workout the outcome over 5 rounds where the MMA athlete would have to put him on the ground 5 consecutive times to win the fight its not going to happen.
LIGHTS OUT MMA athlete.
HAHAHA This thread will go on for days!! War Tyson!!
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Tyson was one of the most spectacular boxers, yes. One of the greatest ever, HELL NO!! Who did he beat an old ass Larry Holmes? To be considered "great" you must beat "great" fighters. He kayoed a bunch of bums, seriously. Think about all the fighters Ali beat, Sonny Liston (twice), Floyd Patterson (twice), Jerry Quarry (twice), Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier (twice), George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers. And thats with missing 3 full years!!! People that say Mike Tyson was the greatest all time, in his little "prime" or otherwise seriously don't know boxing, they are just in awe of his spectacular kayoes. If you think back to the beginning of UFC when you had strictly submission guys, like Shamrock, Gracie, and Severn but you also had your strikers, and one that comes to mind was Patrick Smith who had really solid punching and kicking skills and won most of his fights with devestating kayoes. However, when he got in the ring with a skilled submission guy it was all over. Tyson would not have even done as good as Pat Smith, seriously. Tyson is all hype, he just knocked out bums, period.
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Hong Man Choi, or something like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU)
He seemed very calm and confident here........
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Tyson was one of the most spectacular boxers, yes. One of the greatest ever, HELL NO!! Who did he beat an old ass Larry Holmes? To be considered "great" you must beat "great" fighters. He kayoed a bunch of bums, seriously. Think about all the fighters Ali beat, Sonny Liston (twice), Floyd Patterson (twice), Jerry Quarry (twice), Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier (twice), George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers. And thats with missing 3 full years!!! People that say Mike Tyson was the greatest all time, in his little "prime" or otherwise seriously don't know boxing, they are just in awe of his spectacular kayoes. If you think back to the beginning of UFC when you had strictly submission guys, like Shamrock, Gracie, and Severn but you also had your strikers, and one that comes to mind was Patrick Smith who had really solid punching and kicking skills and won most of his fights with devestating kayoes. However, when he got in the ring with a skilled submission guy it was all over. Tyson would not have even done as good as Pat Smith, seriously. Tyson is all hype, he just knocked out bums, period.
In terms of achievement no he wasnt as great as Ali, but in head to head terms, prime v prime, its a 50-50 fight.
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Tyson does nt look scared in that clip! He looks relaxed and seems to be having fun!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G132rcDX0YU)
He seemed very calm and confident here........
That giant asian would bring Tyson down in one punch.
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Tyson was one of the most spectacular boxers, yes. One of the greatest ever, HELL NO!! Who did he beat an old ass Larry Holmes? To be considered "great" you must beat "great" fighters. He kayoed a bunch of bums, seriously. Think about all the fighters Ali beat, Sonny Liston (twice), Floyd Patterson (twice), Jerry Quarry (twice), Bob Foster, Ken Norton, Joe Frazier (twice), George Foreman, and Earnie Shavers. And thats with missing 3 full years!!! People that say Mike Tyson was the greatest all time, in his little "prime" or otherwise seriously don't know boxing, they are just in awe of his spectacular kayoes. If you think back to the beginning of UFC when you had strictly submission guys, like Shamrock, Gracie, and Severn but you also had your strikers, and one that comes to mind was Patrick Smith who had really solid punching and kicking skills and won most of his fights with devestating kayoes. However, when he got in the ring with a skilled submission guy it was all over. Tyson would not have even done as good as Pat Smith, seriously. Tyson is all hype, he just knocked out bums, period.
You obviously don't know much about Tyson!! ::)
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Tyson killed Chuck Norris
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Tyson does nt look scared in that clip! He looks relaxed and seems to be having fun!
Tyson doesn't get scared!!
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Tyson doesn't get scared!!
Hi Mike.
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Maurice Green was a Kickboxer that won against Specialist MMA fighter Mark "Hammer" Coleman about 5 years back, This fight was defining in Mike Tyson favour, Green had never been put on the ground as a distinguished career as a world champion kickboxer,But 3 months of learning the ground game he over came Coleman and won.
Maurice Green was a wrestler in high school and had some previous judo background. And he got owned on the ground more times than I can count.
Being the athlete Tyson was give him 3 months training on the ground this would nullify any MMA athletes head start
Ridiculous and redundant argumentation beyond belief. Do you actually believe this garbage? So in 3 months Tyson will fight as well on the ground as a 5th degree black belt in jiu-jitsu, like Rickson Gracie? Please...Tyson would have to train for at least 10 and maybe 15 years to reach that level of expertise on the ground.
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Tyson doesn't get scared!!
Hero-worship at it's best...
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Hero-worship at it's best...
Hater!!
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Hi Mike.
Hey
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That giant asian would bring Tyson down in one punch.
Hahahhahaha yeh right buddy, that lumbering Asian would die from a Tyson right hand in the ribs, Tyson would win within seconds, probably quicker than he koed Marvis Frazier
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Hahahhahaha yeh right buddy, that lumbering Asian would die from a Tyson right hand in the ribs, Tyson would win within seconds, probably quicker than he koed Marvis Frazier
Word!!
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Bump for Mike!! ;)
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Maurice Green was a wrestler in high school and had some previous judo background. And he got owned on the ground more times than I can count.
Ridiculous and redundant argumentation beyond belief. Do you actually believe this garbage? So in 3 months Tyson will fight as well on the ground as a 5th degree black belt in jiu-jitsu, like Rickson Gracie? Please...Tyson would have to train for at least 10 and maybe 15 years to reach that level of expertise on the ground.
Maurice Green was nothing special as MMA started to progress, but he was definitely a part of its history, I've got to agree with you.
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Maurice Green was nothing special as MMA started to progress, but he was definitely a part of its history, I've got to agree with you.
Who?
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Who?
Maurice Smith ;D
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Oh that makes more sense!
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Had to bring it back whens I saw SF's thread!!