Author Topic: White Guy in under armour interviews Mike Tyson! (Read 35880 times)

tu_holmes · « **Reply #150 on:** March 30, 2008, 05:38:24 PM »

Quote from: CigaretteMan on March 30, 2008, 05:28:15 PM

Because he can't possibly be equal on the ground to a black belt who trains hours a day for fighting on the ground. Are you saying that Tyson can go toe-to-toe on the ground against a Gracie? Lol, that's dumb. What training does he have on the ground? The one he got living on the mean streets of New York? "Sigh"

The irony of you saying that...

A bunch of anectodal evidence with no substantiation. You have proven yourself to be a fan-boy, nothing more. Just because he could box better than everyone else doesen't mean he could fight overral better than everyone else.

And the lion will have a nice dinner, I suppose. Seriously, dude, you are hero-worshipping Tyson toa ridiculous degree. Your entire argument can be summarized by:

"OhmeGod!!!!! Tyson is so cool and tough and he punches so hard, nop one could ever take him in a fight even if they don't have to follow boxing rules."

Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.

You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.

He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.

It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.

Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.

The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.

Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.

What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."

So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?

Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #151 on:** March 30, 2008, 05:49:01 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 30, 2008, 05:38:24 PM

Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.

You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.

He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.

It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.

Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.

The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.

Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.

What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."

So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?

Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.

Preach Preach!!

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #152 on:** March 30, 2008, 05:57:13 PM »

"I had Mike sparring 10 rounds everyday... 5 days a week! It was an all out war EVERYDAY. There was none of that one day on and one day off crap. To be a great fighter... you have to spar. You gotta spar everyday, day in and day out, week after week. With Mike, I would spar him up until two or three days before a fight."

~ Kevin Rooney

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #153 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:00:27 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 30, 2008, 05:38:24 PM

Not really... What I'm trying to convey is that just because your favorite MMA guy has skills doesn't mean he can't get beat up by the guy who can arguably be considered the greatest fighter in the history of the world.

You're talking about being a Fan boy when Tyson has stood toe to toe with guys who were considered tough and he's knocked them out.

He's beat people up in street fights and he's walked away... Where have your guys fought? In a ring with some rules.

It's like saying that Bruce Lee wasn't a bad ass when he used to hang out in Hong Kong picking fights to show how tough he was.

Tyson was beating up grown men in street fights when he wasn't even finished with puberty. He went to Prison and no one in the yard wanted any.

The octagon isn't the streets... In the streets, people pull weapons and don't give a shit, yet Tyson kept beating people up.

Like I said... I've met Tyson... and even today, not one of the MMA superstars has stepped up to see if they can beat the man.

What did Rick Flair used to say? "To be the man, you've got to beat the man."

So far, no MMA man has stood up to make it happen... Like I said... Tyson will certainly take the money, so why doesn't the UFC or whoever make it happen?

Keep worshiping the shamrocks or the Fedors or whatever... Everyone is a cage fighter now.

Don't waste your time Holmes, this dude is so delusional, he would put Chris Lebon in the ring with a 19 year old Tyson and still claim Tyson would be a sitting duck. I really, really hope Brock Lesner and Kimbo rule the UFC in the future, just to show these emos how easy it is for any fighter to excel in this "sport".

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #154 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:05:02 PM »

Yeah most people only know of the post prison Tyson! They should do their research!

tu_holmes · « **Reply #155 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:06:07 PM »

Quote from: thelamefalsehood on March 30, 2008, 06:00:27 PM

Don't waste your time Holmes, this dude is so delusional, he would put Chris Lebon in the ring with a 19 year old Tyson and still claim Tyson would be a sitting duck. I really, really hope Brock Lesner and Kimbo rule the UFC in the future, just to show these emos how easy it is for any fighter to excel in this "sport".

Yeah, I'm done... I've laid out all of the facts, if people want to believe that their favorite MMA guy would beat up Tyson, then let them... Tyson has proven his skills many times over, I don't have to vouch for him.

I'll say this.

I'm no bad ass... but I'm not "afraid" of too many people...

Tyson, when I met him, scared the shit out of me. You know how you can look at a person's eyes and kind of see how they are... All I saw was crazy... CRAZY.

Truly a beast.

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #156 on:** March 30, 2008, 06:08:50 PM »

True badass!!

LuciusFox · « **Reply #157 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:38:08 PM »

Tyson was not a great fighter, only a great boxer. Almost any MMA fighter in his weight class could have chopped him down with leg kicks and submitted him. The hero worship here is truly embarrassing. $:-\$

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #158 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:45:28 PM »

Quote from: LuciusFox on March 30, 2008, 07:38:08 PM

Tyson was not a great fighter, only a great boxer. Almost any MMA fighter in his weight class could have chopped him down with leg kicks and submitted him. The hero worship here is truly embarrassing. $:-\$

Tyson wasn't a great fighter? Are you kidding?

njflex · « **Reply #159 on:** March 30, 2008, 07:59:35 PM »

Quote from: Epic_Monster on March 30, 2008, 07:45:28 PM

Tyson wasn't a great fighter? Are you kidding?

i agree great fighter not a great boxer skill wise,after 1990 loss and jail stint never the same especially against taller and more skilled fighter like say holyfield,holyfield was conditioned to box his way through,dance and stretch the rounds and use corners,mike got antsy to get the big blow which at this point in his career is all he had,when he got frustrated he low blowed,or bit lol..like holyfields ear like a mrs fields peanut butter cookie.soft and chewy.

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #160 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:12:46 PM »

He won the title at 20!
Unified all the belts!
Turned pro at 18!

Tyson was not a great boxer huh!!

njflex · « **Reply #161 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:19:19 PM »

Quote from: Epic_Monster on March 30, 2008, 08:12:46 PM

He won the title at 20!
Unified all the belts!
Turned pro at 18!

Tyson was not a great boxer huh!!

dude he was great and lethal at that age but he was ruined after losing to buster douglass..skills were never the same,beating lou savarese,botha,is not the same as crushing berbick,bonecrusher smith,bruno,spinks,

War-Horse · « **Reply #162 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:20:12 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on March 30, 2008, 02:55:08 PM

yeah ok, i'll build a time machine and go back and talk Tyson into fighting Ken Shamrock, Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture.

Lmao..that would end this thread finally.

Epic_Monster · « **Reply #163 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:21:28 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on March 30, 2008, 08:20:12 PM

Lmao..that would end this thread finally.

Yeah I know this fucking thing is never gonna stop!!

SirTraps · « **Reply #164 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:24:02 PM »

Tyson was a great talent, but HW division was terribly weak in that era. Some of these comments are ridiculous.

Why do you think that no pro boxer has crossed over to mma ? how about the middle of the pack boxers who arent making much money in boxing ? They should be able to dominate right ?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #165 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:24:50 PM »

Quote from: SirTraps on March 30, 2008, 08:24:02 PM

Tyson was a great talent, but HW division was terribly weak in that era. Some of these comments are ridiculous.

Why do you think that no pro boxer has crossed over to mma ? how about the middle of the pack boxers who arent making much money in boxing ? They should be able to dominate right ?

Uh... no... We're talking about Tyson... no one else.

SirTraps · « **Reply #166 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:27:08 PM »

why not anyone else ?

Tyson wasnt necessaily the greatest boxer ever, why not other boxers ?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #167 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:27:57 PM »

Quote from: SirTraps on March 30, 2008, 08:27:08 PM

why not anyone else ? Tyson wasnt necessaily the greatest boxer ever, why not other boxers ?

Because Tyson was a fighter... and Ali said he was the greatest ever... so that's enough for me.

Tyson is much more than a boxer... He's an animal.

SirTraps · « **Reply #168 on:** March 30, 2008, 08:42:52 PM »

no, hes very human. Here he is getting his ass kicked.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #169 on:** March 30, 2008, 10:59:57 PM »

Quote from: SirTraps on March 30, 2008, 08:42:52 PM

no, hes very human. Here he is getting his ass kicked.

Desolate · « **Reply #170 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:22:41 PM »

The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.

Croatch · « **Reply #171 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:33:13 PM »

Quote from: Desolate on March 30, 2008, 11:22:41 PM

The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.

I'd say Mike Tyson brought Mike Tyson down. Robin Givens...haha, what a waste. She didn't even have a B rack.

HTexan · « **Reply #172 on:** March 30, 2008, 11:51:35 PM »

Quote from: Desolate on March 30, 2008, 11:22:41 PM

The sad irony in all this is that it was a girl who brought Mike Tyson down. Her name was Robin Givens.

the say irony is that women do this all he time $:-\$

Desolate · « **Reply #173 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:10:22 AM »

Very true.

Mike just didn't listen to the people who were trying to tell him the truth about her. He let her fuck up the business relationship with Bill Cayton and he let her fuck up the friendship/relationship with Kevin Rooney.

In late 1987, Mike was dating Robin, Miss U.S.A. Suzette Charles, and supermodel Naomi Campbell at the same time. He invited all three to his fight against Tony Tucker. Bill Cayton had them sit in separate parts of the arena so that the three wouldn't be in close proximity to each other.

Robin knew she needed a hook. She told Mike she was pregnant. Rooney called her out because he knew she faked the pregnancy to get Mike to marry her. Mike fired Kevin for it. Three fights later, James Douglas knocked Mike out.

This was the big mistake. Cus D'Amato loved Rooney and taught Kevin everything he knew. In my opinion, Kevin was a far better trainer than Teddy Atlas. If Mike had listened to the right people, I'd say there was a good chance he could've retired undefeated. And if he gave up the thug life that Don King helped perpetuate, he'd still have gobs of cash, be widely respected, and his life wouldn't be the train wreck it is now.

mame09 · « **Reply #174 on:** March 31, 2008, 12:23:23 AM »

lol this is a funny thread.

put it this way if tyson vs wandy or mirko in the octagon or the ring or the street he will kill them.

i would love to see mirko try to even attempt a hi kick to tyson. not only would he bop and weave but he will come in with a killer combo to give mirko and give a whole new meaning for getting KTFO