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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
bwhhahah. IQ doesn't equal money.
Some of the countries in Africa average below 70...hahah...scary. ;) Pretty much on par with a small cat.
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And they the Chinese have the shit drain run down through the Kitchen of each apartment block.High IQ I doubt it.
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England +100 ? LOL!
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
North and South Korea are also >100 lol
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bwhhahah. IQ doesn't equal money.
IQ correlates quite strongly with prosperity and the advancement of a civilization, and other factors like crime and so on.
The dumber you are, the more prone you are to the negatives of life, statistically speaking.
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Asian may have a lower IQ than westerners, but chinese in particular, are way more pragmatic than us westerners... and this is why the world of tommorow belong to them.
A chinese will never answer Yes or No to a question.
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Haha. This thread has a MattC homing beacon.
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Asian may have a lower IQ than westerners, but chinese in particular, are way more pragmatic than us westerners... and this is why the world of tommorow belong to them.
A chinese will never answer Yes or No to a question.
Asian immigrants in the states beats blacks hands down on IQ. And most likely whites, statistically speaking.
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Look back in 20-30 years and it'll be more accurate.
Many countries are industrializing still, so that can't be a fair representation. Also remember that certain nations will remain poor due to excessive opression(N. Korea).
In ancient times, the Chinese were light years ahead of everyone.
I think you might a shift of 5-10 points for India, and maybe the Middle East as well if they decide to change their act(probably wont). For Africa, I believe it'll be the same cuz they've always been historically dumb.
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Asian immigrants in the states beats blacks hands down on IQ. And most likely whites, statistically speaking.
Good brains, horrid physical genetics.
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For Africa, I believe it'll be the same cuz they've always been historically dumb.
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Has anyone here ever met an Asian they didn't like?
I never have
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Re: IQ By Country... Is this accurate?
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Asian may have a lower IQ than westerners, but chinese in particular, are way more pragmatic than us westerners... and this is why the world of tommorow belong to them.
A chinese will never answer Yes or No to a question.
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Let me answer your question with a question Yes or No????.
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Asian may have a lower IQ than westerners, but chinese in particular, are way more pragmatic than us westerners... and this is why the world of tommorow belong to them.
A chinese will never answer Yes or No to a question.
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Let me answer your question with a question Yes or No????.
epic fail at quoting someone.
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Good brains, horrid physical genetics.
Good intelligence = more worthwhile than physical appearance.
Physical appearance can more easily be improved than intelligence.
Bad looking asian > Ok looking but stupid black
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Asian immigrants in the states beats blacks hands down on IQ. And most likely whites, statistically speaking.
Asian immigrants(Indian and Orients) in America have some of highest rates of education. Something like 50% or more of the populations have undergrad degrees. That's impressive considering most of them are first and second generation immigrants. They also don't recieve preference regarding school admission standards and employment like blacks and hispanics do.
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Asian immigrants(Indian and Orients) in America have some of highest rates of education. Something like 50% or more of the populations have undergrad degrees. That's impressive considering most of them are first and second generation immigrants. They also don't recieve preference regarding school admission standards and employment like blacks and hispanics do.
They are superior, and it = probably partially due to genetics, in the same way certain more ahem *challenged" ethnical groups seems genetically programmed for failure in a modern society.
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Well, in summation, whether they are smarter or not, they still have not learned basics like feeding their countrymen.
This speaks volumes, more so than the pissing contest as to who has the highest IQ
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They are superior, and it = probably partially due to genetics, in the same way certain more ahem *challenged" ethnical groups seems genetically programmed for failure in a modern society.
There was a really smart and hard working Indian (India) that ran a local gas station. The INS came and got him the other day, yet they ignore the groves of Mexicans.
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My theory is that because sub-Sahara Africa never had any great river systems, the african people really had no means to develop great civilizations. Hell, most of them reached their peak when the moors started the slave trade.. The irony. ;D
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http://www.americancivilrightsreview.com/africanfailure.html
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Good intelligence = more worthwhile than physical appearance.
Physical appearance can more easily be improved than intelligence.
Bad looking asian > Ok looking but stupid black
I guess it depends on who is judging it. Some party slut at a club, would probably rather nail some black guy who's ripped packing heat, than some goofy Chinese guy who works at Microsoft.
You can improve you knowledge, despite intelligence level.
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My theory is that because sub-Sahara Africa never had any great river systems, the african people really had no means to develop great civilizations. Hell, most of them reached their peak when the moors started the slave trade.. The irony. ;D
Well, all this stuff will be irrelevant in 50 years, when genetical engineering will enable us to upgrade kids before they are born. This wonderful technology will simply allow us to create the superhuman, and get rid of the more "unfortunate" outcomes of evolution ;)
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Asian immigrants(Indian and Orients) in America have some of highest rates of education. Something like 50% or more of the populations have undergrad degrees. That's impressive considering most of them are first and second generation immigrants. They also don't recieve preference regarding school admission standards and employment like blacks and hispanics do.
They are superior, and it = probably partially due to genetics, in the same way certain more ahem *challenged" ethnical groups seems genetically programmed for failure in a modern society.
It's more dispositional traits that help them excel in "making the grades" in terms of superior ::) that is why China finally got ahold of a revolution and land mass in the 1930's and a revolution of counter factual thinking in the 70's and India was a British colony up until 1942, superior in terms of being subjugates, yes, smart no.
My theory is that because sub-Sahara Africa never had any great river systems, the african people really had no means to develop great civilizations. Hell, most of them reached their peak when the moors started the slave trade.. The irony. ;D
Britain and the Rothschilds fought for the MASSIVE amounts og gold and diamonds in the 19th century and the war Italy fought and lost to try to get it? And now China. They have the resources, just retarded on how to sell em. Yes right on the Moore trube they finally gave way when the Brits gave em money and guns.
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I guess it depends on who is judging it. Some party slut at a club, would probably rather nail some black guy who's ripped packing heat, than some goofy Chinese guy who works at Microsoft.
You can improve you knowledge, despite intelligence level.
It also goes beyond that. A society without a decent pop culture cannot dominate; which is why the entire world is drinking the Hollywood coolaid. Unfortunately Asians failed miserably at this one. Blacks have not.
I could get into the pro sport side of things but I just heard a beer pop so I'm heading for family room... but keep going this thread is good shit..
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I guess it depends on who is judging it. Some party slut at a club, would probably rather nail some black guy who's ripped packing heat, than some goofy Chinese guy who works at Microsoft.
You can improve you knowledge, despite intelligence level.
Well, intelligence in itself is not static, it's at least partially fluid, and can be improved within certain boundaries set by ones genes, and since there = still not a unified agreement about what the definition of intelligence =, certain subtypes of intelligence = actually improved simply by aquiring knowledge, for example the ability to make good choices in everyday life.
Boosting your short term memory through training has been shown to improve IQ for example.
And if we look at the biggest and most important context of it all, the progress and future of mankind, intelligence is the most valuable asset. What some waste of protein dumb mechicano clubSlut thinks about intelligent asians with smaller arms and dicks is irrelevant. Newton might not have been the hottest playa around in his time, but his impact on our lives today = immense. Nobody believes the hot bitches of that time.
:D
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nz = smartest 8)
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It also goes beyond that. A society without a decent pop culture cannot dominate; which is why the entire world is drinking the Hollywood coolaid. Unfortunately Asians failed miserably at this one. Blacks have not.
I could get into the pro sport side of things but I just heard a beer pop so I'm heading for family room... but keep going this thread is good shit..
Good point.
At the same time, the "pop culture" of the future is leaning towards the computerized stuff, like online worlds, robotics and so on.
And there is nothing cosmetic surgery can't fix.
Asia Carrera = ultra hot 8)
So here = the deal: Japan becomes ultra superior in the robotic age, and spends money genetically engineering the perfect pop culture humaniods and own the pop culture as well :D
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Has anyone here ever met an Asian they didn't like?
I never have
yes
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Well, all this stuff will be irrelevant in 50 years, when genetical engineering will enable us to upgrade kids before they are born. This wonderful technology will simply allow us to create the superhuman, and get rid of the more "unfortunate" outcomes of evolution ;)
I don't know if that's a good thing or not. The world still needs ditch-diggers and dishwashers, and people with 140 IQs won't be lining up to do that work.
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Has anyone here ever met an Asian they didn't like?
Ask John McCain. ;)
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The world still needs ditch-diggers
(http://pbpl.physics.ucla.edu/About_Us/Bios/Carl_Spackler/smails.jpg)
;D
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There was a really smart and hard working Indian (India) that ran a local gas station. The INS came and got him the other day, yet they ignore the groves of Mexicans.
It's sad that the contribution of asian Americans goes largely unoticed. You'll never see the media or anybody giving any sort of attention to the matter. Look at how much abuse early Chinese and Japanese immigrants took, yet they don't whine about it to this day. They were pretty important in building the foundation of this country (the railroads), but generally don't feel a sense of entitlement. It's the exact opposite for blacks and hispanics. Everyday we're reminded of just how badly Tyrone's great grandpa got whipped, and why we're racist because we want our borders closed. ::)
There's a big double standard going on.
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I don't know if that's a good thing or not. The world still needs ditch-diggers and dishwashers, and people with 140 IQs won't be lining up to do that work.
Who cares? We'll let robots to those shit-jobs (and then we don't need to pay out as much pension :D ), and save some crap-humans like Vince Basile just for fun just in case.
(The amount of shit jobs will be drastically reduced in 50 years, and this is actually an economical concern, so we don't need many idiots around)
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Ask John McCain. ;)
Come to think of it, I know a couple Vietnam vets and... lol
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Who cares? We'll let robots to those shit-jobs (and then we don't need to pay out as much pension :D ), and save some crap-humans like Vince Basile just for fun just in case.
(The amount of shit jobs will be drastically reduced in 50 years, and this is actually an economical concern, so we don't need many idiots around)
We've already employed robotics where is is cost-effective to do so (ie assembly lines, etc), but there will always be jobs where it is cheaper to put an 80-IQ human on it than it is to try to engineer robotics with sufficient processing/decision making power for the task.
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It also goes beyond that. A society without a decent pop culture cannot dominate; which is why the entire world is drinking the Hollywood coolaid. Unfortunately Asians failed miserably at this one. Blacks have not.
I could get into the pro sport side of things but I just heard a beer pop so I'm heading for family room... but keep going this thread is good shit..
Doing well in pro sports may generation attention, but it doesn't have much of an impact. There's only one black billionaire in the world and that's Oprah.
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Id say so. Im north of ireland which has the first or second best education system in the world. I read that a few places.
and im gonna brag here i got tested by mensa when i was 14 and got 148. have letter upstairs to prove it.
also i encounter countless annoying asian people. i have never met a black man i never liked though. that being said im only 22. And when i was 5 or 6 i remember seieng any blacks asians etc was extremly rare. rare to the point where i felt and knew that they were different and was conscious of trying not to stare or make it look like i am consciously looking away. this was confusing as a child.
only place you sene them was in the city center.
Now there are plenty of fireigners in belfast. Lots of asians and blacks. In my gym there are now 7 nigerian/ghanains 2 asians a bulgarian fella and on occassion an indian.
once again we are nowhere near as metropolitan as say london or any other major city newhere in the developed world.
and every soingle foreigner works their balss off. they moved up from dublin as worlk was running out since 1/3 of dublin is e.european/foreign now. said plenty of work in belfast, just no one seems to want to work other than foreigners anymore.
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Id say so. Im north of ireland which has the first or second best education system in the world. I read that a few places.
and im gonna brag here i got tested by mensa when i was 14 and got 148. have letter upstairs to prove it.
also i encounter countless annoying asian people. i have never met a black man i never liked though. that being said im only 22. And when i was 5 or 6 i remember seieng any blacks asians etc was extremly rare. rare to the point where i felt and knew that they were different and was conscious of trying not to stare or make it look like i am consciously looking away. this was confusing as a child.
only place you sene them was in the city center.
Now there are plenty of fireigners in belfast. Lots of asians and blacks. In my gym there are now 7 nigerian/ghanains 2 asians a bulgarian fella and on occassion an indian.
once again we are nowhere near as metropolitan as say london or any other major city newhere in the developed world.
and every soingle foreigner works their balss off. they moved up from dublin as worlk was running out since 1/3 of dublin is e.european/foreign now. said plenty of work in belfast, just no one seems to want to work other than foreigners anymore.
Your grammer and spelling support what you're saying.
Just joking Goud... ;D
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It's more dispositional traits that help them excel in "making the grades" in terms of superior ::) that is why China finally got ahold of a revolution and land mass in the 1930's and a revolution of counter factual thinking in the 70's and India was a British colony up until 1942, superior in terms of being subjugates, yes, smart no.
Britain and the Rothschilds fought for the MASSIVE amounts og gold and diamonds in the 19th century and the war Italy fought and lost to try to get it? And now China. They have the resources, just retarded on how to sell em. Yes right on the Moore trube they finally gave way when the Brits gave em money and guns.
Excellent point! The fact that they're rich in mineral resources and still piss poor and dumb tells you a lot.
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Id say so. Im north of ireland which has the first or second best education system in the world. I read that a few places.
and im gonna brag here i got tested by mensa when i was 14 and got 148. have letter upstairs to prove it.
also i encounter countless annoying asian people. i have never met a black man i never liked though. that being said im only 22. And when i was 5 or 6 i remember seieng any blacks asians etc was extremly rare. rare to the point where i felt and knew that they were different and was conscious of trying not to stare or make it look like i am consciously looking away. this was confusing as a child.
only place you sene them was in the city center.
Now there are plenty of fireigners in belfast. Lots of asians and blacks. In my gym there are now 7 nigerian/ghanains 2 asians a bulgarian fella and on occassion an indian.
once again we are nowhere near as metropolitan as say london or any other major city newhere in the developed world.
and every soingle foreigner works their balss off. they moved up from dublin as worlk was running out since 1/3 of dublin is e.european/foreign now. said plenty of work in belfast, just no one seems to want to work other than foreigners anymore.
I would have thought that your IQ was higher than 148 after reading this.
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Has anyone here ever met an Asian they didn't like?
I never have
yea they are always squinting, pisses me off Excellent point! The fact that they're rich in mineral resources and still piss poor and dumb tells you a lot.
They also have the world's largest cobalt reserve AND plutonium (sp) ?
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We've already employed robotics where is is cost-effective to do so (ie assembly lines, etc), but there will always be jobs where it is cheaper to put an 80-IQ human on it than it is to try to engineer robotics with sufficient processing/decision making power for the task.
Of course, (at least in the next 50 - 100 years), but the amount of jobs where it = cheaper to put 80IQ humans than robotics = being reduced every day. The cost of robots goes down and their complexity and ability to do more jobs goes up.
Think about it: Ditch diggers: Can be done by a robot. Cashier at the supermarket: Can be done by technology, eventually you might just order the merchandise online and some robotcar drives it home for you (we have robot driven cars already driving across the states), dishwashing: Can be automated, fucking Vince Basile in the ass: Can be done by Melissas fuck machine, hookers: Sex robots, cab drivers: car robots. And so on..
People still cry about "ohh we want human contact when we go to the bank/store/whatever", but when the choice comes between getting shit cheaper via a robot, and being served by a cashier in a bad mood, people always go for the first choice.
The need for idiot humans (below 100 IQ) will go down, yet they replicate the quickest. The solution: Upgrade them. ;D
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just no one seems to want to work other than foreigners anymore.
If you're talking about physical work for low (relatively speaking) pay, you're correct. A person born in the affluent West who has a college degree expects to be employed in some occupation where they use their brain rather than their muscles, and at a salary above the societal median. They'd rather do nothing than do jobs they feel are beneth them. Foreigners from the third world have no such expectations, and are used to working harder for even less than they get from our "shit jobs".
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Ive never met an asian or indian person who was a bum. They all seem to have their acts together and get an education, and become productive members who contribute to society. White people are hit or miss in this case, while blacks and hispanics are usually a miss.
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Of course, (at least in the next 50 - 100 years), but the amount of jobs where it = cheaper to put 80IQ humans than robotics = being reduced every day. The cost of robots goes down and their complexity and ability to do more jobs goes up.
Think about it: Ditch diggers: Can be done by a robot. Cashier at the supermarket: Can be done by technology, eventually you might just order the merchandise online and some robotcar drives it home for you (we have robot driven cars already driving across the states), dishwashing: Can be automated, fucking Vince Basile in the ass: Can be done by Melissas fuck machine, hookers: Sex robots, cab drivers: car robots. And so on..
People still cry about "ohh we want human contact when we go to the bank/store/whatever", but when the choice comes between getting shit cheaper via a robot, and being served by a cashier in a bad mood, people always go for the first choice.
The need for idiot humans (below 100 IQ) will go down, yet they replicate the quickest. The solution: Upgrade them. ;D
Agreed on that. The lower down the evolution chain, the greater the reproduction rate.
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They also have the world's largest cobalt reserve AND plutonium (sp) ?
That's amazing... especially since plutonium is not naturally occurring (at least not in quantities that can be recovered). It is made in nuclear reactors from Uranium.
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Agreed on that. The lower down the evolution chain, the greater the reproduction rate.
The good thing is: The smart ones is the one with the resources and teh control.
Anyway, in 100 years, all humans (given that humanity survives) will be born "upgraded", and certain means to limit birth rates will probably also exist.
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Well, in summation, whether they are smarter or not, they still have not learned basics like feeding their countrymen.
So you're saying more advanced societies employ handouts like food stamps?
Hi hilary ;)
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
Allow me to explain this:
Yes, the Chinese do indeed have an average IQ of 105, which is higher than the US or Canadian average. Why? Because the IQ spread in China is all very close to the mean score of 105. For example, a spread may look like [103,105, 107] whereas in the USA, a spread may look something like [70, 100, 130]. How does this equate to China being a "second world" country? Simple - it is the intelligent elite in a society who bring it up. With fewer geniuses in China, there are fewer strong IQs to bring it up to the high level observed in Canada and the USA.
University of Ulster Psychology professor Lynn concludes the IQs of different races are as follows:
East Asians =105.
Europeans = 100.
Inuit or Eskimos = 91
South East Asians = 87
Native American Indians = 87
Pacific Islanders = 85
South Asians and North Africans = 84
Sub-Saharan Africans = 67
Australian Aborigines = 62
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I guess it depends on who is judging it. Some party slut at a club, would probably rather nail some black guy who's ripped packing heat, than some goofy Chinese guy who works at Microsoft.
When you're 21 I suppose that matters. When you're in you're 30's and married, not so much. Especially when said black guy still lives in his baby-momma's 2-br apartment while you live in a big house in an upscale suburb.
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I do not follow, matt.
I get the part about less outliers to skew things.
wait a second, does this test simply compare all chinamen to just chinamen, and all americans to just americans? Or does IQ=CA/MA where MA is one uniform world average? Oh the drama.
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Allow me to explain this:
Yes, the Chinese do indeed have an average IQ of 105, which is higher than the US or Canadian average. Why? Because the IQ spread in China is all very close to the mean score of 105. For example, a spread may look like [103,105, 107] whereas in the USA, a spread may look something like [70, 100, 130]. How does this equate to China being a "second world" country? Simple - it is the intelligent elite in a society who bring it up. With fewer geniuses in China, there are fewer strong IQs to bring it up to the high level observed in Canada and the USA.
University of Ulster Psychology professor Lynn concludes the IQs of different races are as follows:
East Asians =105.
Europeans = 100.
Inuit or Eskimos = 91
South East Asians = 87
Native American Indians = 87
Pacific Islanders = 85
South Asians and North Africans = 84
Sub-Saharan Africans = 67
Australian Aborigines = 62
Where does Debusseys new IQ of 53 come in? >:( >:(
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Where does Debusseys new IQ of 53 come in? >:( >:(
East Asians =105.
Europeans = 100.
Inuit or Eskimos = 91
South East Asians = 87
Native American Indians = 87
Pacific Islanders = 85
South Asians and North Africans = 84
Sub-Saharan Africans = 67
Australian Aborigines = 62
Norwegiens = 53
fixed!
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East Asians =105.
Europeans = 100.
Inuit or Eskimos = 91
South East Asians = 87
Native American Indians = 87
Pacific Islanders = 85
South Asians and North Africans = 84
Sub-Saharan Africans = 67
Australian Aborigines = 62
Norwegiens = 53
fixed!
Debussey = an alien/Gary Busey hybrid :D
East Asians =105.
Europeans = 100.
Inuit or Eskimos = 91
South East Asians = 87
Native American Indians = 87
Pacific Islanders = 85
South Asians and North Africans = 84
Sub-Saharan Africans = 67
Australian Aborigines = 62
Gary Busey genome subtype Debussey = 53 8)
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That's amazing... especially since plutonium is not naturally occurring (at least not in quantities that can be recovered). It is made in nuclear reactors from Uranium.
haha knew I was getting sketched, I meant palladium
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haha knew I was getting sketched, I meant palladium
You sure you did not mean Penisinium, element number Penis90.?
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You sure you did not mean Penisinium, element number Penis90.?
Gary Busey semen is very heavy.
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Gary Busey semen is very heavy.
Yes! To gurgle with it, you need strong neck muscles! :D
GaryBuseyGodSemenium = element number 3090.
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In defense of the US. Goodrum just so happened to counted as a US citizen so that is the reason why we were so low. And, they did count him as black which obviously the people who did the survey didn't get the memo that Goodrum was kicked out of the black race.
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In defense of the US. Goodrum just so happened to counted as a US citizen so that is the reason why we were so low. And, they did count him as black which obviously the people who did the survey didn't get the memo that Goodrum was kicked out of the black race.
Goodrum claims that he scored an IQ of 131 in high school and was allowed to take college classes while in high school because of it.
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Goodrum claims that he scored an IQ of 131 in high school and was allowed to take college classes while in high school because of it.
I don't doubt he said that at all. It goes with all the other bullshit he claims. I truly think he was white but because he is so full of shit it gives the illusion he is black.
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I'd say Vince = average
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I'd say Vince = average
Is 108 on a difficult IQ test average?
;D
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Is 108 on a difficult IQ test average?
;D
Different types, bro.
The Mensa one with the symbols, time limit and with 8 or was it 10 choices is hard. Getting a 108 on that is good. I got like 114 on it myself.
Other ones I've gotten 122 and more but they were easy.
When I encounter monkeys tommorow on the rail, then I'll wonder what they'd have scored if they took the symbolic one.
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Different types, bro.
The Mensa one with the symbols, time limit and with 8 or was it 10 choices is hard. Getting a 108 on that is good. I got like 114 on it myself.
Other ones I've gotten 122 and more but they were easy.
When I encounter monkeys tommorow on the rail, then I'll wonder what they'd have scored if they took the symbolic one.
To clearify, the 108 thing was something you wrote that you got once on a difficult IQ test. (Which was the basis for Debusseys attempt at humor ;D)
It is fairly clear that Debusseys IQ = 53.
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To clearify, the 108 thing was something you wrote that you got once on a difficult IQ test.
It is fairly clear that Debusseys IQ = 53.
I don't recall that.
First time around on the 10 choice symbolic one could have been somewhere around that. 114 was my best and that was after a few. But my point is that there are different types of IQ tests. One who scores 1 standard deviation above the mean in a easy one is bound to be average in a very difficult one.
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I don't recall that.
First time around on the 10 choice symbolic one could have been somewhere around that. 114 was my best and that was after a few. But my point is that there are different types of IQ tests. One who scores 1 standard deviation above the mean in a easy one is bound to be average in a very difficult one.
Try these, they are fairly accurate and not faked to be easy:
http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
Also try this: http://www.mensa.no/olavtesten/index_2.html
:-* ;)
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows and we have everything imaginable, it's sad they still have us all beat in IQ. Therefore, U.S. economy will become shit in the next few years and China's going to be the next super power
Fixed
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Fixed
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I'd say Vince = average
Yea in aboriginal community.
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fluoride and chemtrails will kill everyone's IQ sooner or later...
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fluoride and chemtrails will kill everyone's IQ sooner or later...
You keep mentioning this....I'll bite. Link please.
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Nice test. Here's my score. I know I'm not a genius, but still in top 10%. Let's see yours.
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We need to get "Queen B" to take that fucker.
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We need to get "Queen B" to take that fucker.
Oh fuck.. I knew I'd get owned in the end ;D
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
IQ is unrelated to "smart", really. it just refers to the ability of the brain to work with information. if you're poor as dirt but have a high IQ you're still going to piss on the street and eat out of the garbage, you'll just be extra miserable about it.
that's why a five year old who lives at home in a trailer and has never been inside a library can have a 190 IQ, it's a measure of brainpower, not information known.
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titusisback are you on any brain suplements?
Such as? ???
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roids
haha, didn't know they make people smarter :D
no.. maybe I should. How much do you figure they increase the score?
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??
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Imagine how much shit this dude must be on ;D
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/IQ_by_Country.png
Seems accurate enough. 8)
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Italians >100???
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id be willing to bet if you threw out the scores of a certain demographic, the USA would be >100 as well.
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id be willing to bet if you threw out the scores of a certain demographic, the USA would be >100 as well.
Exactly.
There is another map on Wiki similar to that one that shows the IQ of the indigenous peoples of an area. So, a white American would look to Europe, a Japanese American would look to Japan, a black American would look to Africa, etc. While individuals of any race (including blacks) can be extremely intelligent, as a group blacks are dumb as dirt. Blame slavery if you want, but the real reason blacks form the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder in America 150 years later is that as a group they aren't any smarter than their cousins in Africa.
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Exactly.
There is another map on Wiki similar to that one that shows the IQ of the indigenous peoples of an area. So, a white American would look to Europe, a Japanese American would look to Japan, a black American would look to Africa, etc. While individuals of any race (including blacks) can be extremely intelligent, as a group blacks are dumb as dirt. Blame slavery if you want, but the real reason blacks form the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder in America 150 years later is that as a group they aren't any smarter than their cousins in Africa.
Brutal truth.
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Has anyone here ever met an Asian they didn't like?
I never have
i dont like the ones that buy a 10k civic and then sink another 20k into it to make it go fast..
idiots >:(
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i dont like the ones that buy a 10k civic and then sink another 20k into it to make it go fast..
idiots >:(
According to the IQ map, people from Pakistan = dumb. ;D
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Swedes with genes from the Nothern parts of Norway = retarded.
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According to the IQ map, people from Pakistan = dumb. ;D
i dont disagree...95% of the population dosen't get 1 meal / day...
starve yourself for a few days and see how smart ya feel. :-\
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/IQ_by_Country.png
The map shows that the intelligence of the average European is higher than the intelligence of the average American, which is obviously correct. ;)
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The map shows that the intelligence of the average European is higher than the intelligence of the average American, which is obviously correct. ;)
thats cause
O and A-levels > SAT
and i dont mean the new GCSE crap
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Way over generalized. I'd like to see a test the measures ability to learn rather than how much is already learned. If you come from a dirt poor country you are likely to bust your ass in school.
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Swedes with genes from the Nothern parts of Norway = retarded.
Your just jelous because of norways color on that photo lol!
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i dont disagree...95% of the population dosen't get 1 meal / day...
starve yourself for a few days and see how smart ya feel. :-\
Hard to study with an AK-47 in your hand. :-\
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Hard to study with an AK-47 in your hand. :-\
95% of the population cant afford to buy a simple piece of nan bread (5 rupees) as their only meal of the day let alone afford an AK-47
and as for supposedly coming from a smarter country...i really see no difference in ethnocentric ideology and racial and religious biases here and in Pakistan.
in Pakistan i can at least point to poverty and uneducation
whats your excuse? :-\
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95% of the population cant afford to buy a simple piece of nan bread (5 rupees) as their only meal of the day let alone afford an AK-47
and as for supposedly coming from a smarter country...i really see no difference in ethnocentric ideology and racial and religious biases here and in Pakistan.
in Pakistan i can at least point to poverty and uneducation
whats your excuse? :-\
Me? None I wasn't rich or poor but have graduated college and am in my career of choice. Poverty and uneducation are every where but I think most people in the US have the option of getting beyond it but are too lazy or dumb to do it.
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too lazy or dumb to do it.
its nothing to do with lazy or dumb..
its the me against them propaganda ...an us against them phychology that humans seem to be innately attuned to...
in pakistan the mullahs do it...over here fox and the bible thumpers (bush included) do it..
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i dont like the ones that buy a 10k civic and then sink another 20k into it to make it go fast..
idiots >:(
That only happens in movies...
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NO NO NO NO NO NO
this happens so much around my way. supped up vauxhall nova's, corsa's you name it.
some are respectable ford cosworths etc.
The 20yr old kid fucks up his car so bad adding spoilers etc.
The traffic cops over here use a supped up v impresisve looking subaru evo
thi spic sucks btw
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Way over generalized. I'd like to see a test the measures ability to learn rather than how much is already learned. If you come from a dirt poor country you are likely to bust your ass in school.
Here you go: http://www.pisa.oecd.org
or on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment
also shows that the quality of schools plays a big role as neighbouring countries (same race, language etc) can have very different scores, if a country has good public (free) education and the other does not. If a country improves their schools, the scores go up over time.
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And they the Chinese have the shit drain run down through the Kitchen of each apartment block.High IQ I doubt it.
HEY...It is just like in Venice today...houses/buildings with sewer lines right on the side of the building that dump the raw sewage right into the canals....What I don't understand is why ANYONE!!!! would float in a Gondola in the midst of that SHIT LADEN CANAL and think it is ROMANTIC????!!! GO FIGURE!!!!...What does that say about the IQ of whites? Can't be over 50 at best.
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Asian may have a lower IQ than westerners, but chinese in particular, are way more pragmatic than us westerners... and this is why the world of tommorow belong to them.
A chinese will never answer Yes or No to a question.
You speak Chinese???
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That only happens in movies...
you should visit the DC VA area sometimes..
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Asian immigrants in the states beats blacks hands down on IQ. And most likely whites, statistically speaking.
Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
The world is in AGREEMENT that a caucasian is no higher in intellect than the dogs they love so much...maybe that is why a dog is a white mans best friend. You are known by the company you keep...
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
I think it has already been said that there are and have been individual geniuses of every race, including blacks. What we're talking about here are group averages. On that basis, the arguments and observations are valid.
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
The world is in AGREEMENT that a caucasian is no higher in intellect than the dogs they love so much...maybe that is why a dog is a white mans best friend. You are known by the company you keep...
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
The world is in AGREEMENT that a caucasian is no higher in intellect than the dogs they love so much...maybe that is why a dog is a white mans best friend. You are known by the company you keep...
YESSSSSS ;D
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
The light bulb: Many people involved, practically all white.
The binary system: Gottfried Leibniz is the man behind this one, white (some indian hinted to it many many years ago, but he is not the inventor, nor is he "black" as in african, which is the definition used here)
The laser: Theodore Harold Maiman, white.
Open Heart surgery: John Gibbon, white
The elevator: Hard to determine who actually invented it, since many forms of elevators has emerged the last 250 years and since its not clear which of these can be labeled as the "first elevator", but the different inventors are practically all white. This includes people like Werner von Siemens, Ivan Kulibin, Elisha Otis and Frank Julian Sprague, all white.
The typewriter: A white effort, predominately from Europe.
The fiber optic cable was indeed finalized by an indian (Narinder Singh Kapany), basing his work on what white physicists did. The key is still that this dude is an indian, not african, and since we are talking about blacks as in africans, he does not qualify as "black" here.
The world is in AGREEMENT that a Caucasian is no higher in intellect than the dogs they love so much...maybe that is why a dog is a white mans best friend. You are known by the company you keep...
The world is neither in agreement about this, nor is the world being "in agreement" a valuable argument. At one point, people believed the world was flat, it was agreed upon, but it was not so. The only thing that counts = rigorous scientific study, which at this points shows africans to be intellectually inferior to whites and asians.
To clarify it too you: Studies indicates that blacks (african americans) generally are dumb, while whites and asians are smart. This = averages, so exceptions do exist.
And when you respond to this post, please include solid references when making statements. Claiming that white inventions are in fact black inventions without a shred of proof = a lie, plain and simple. You are not black by any chance? ;D
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
Err...well no. Unless you meant WHITES instead of blacks? Possibly just a minor typo? Anyhow, if you are willing to provide ANY sources for your above claims I may be inclined to change my mind. I'll wait.
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samson aka blacky just got owned
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The light bulb: Many people involved, practically all white.
The binary system: Gottfried Leibniz is the man behind this one, white (some indian hinted to it many many years ago, but he is not the inventor, nor is he "black" as in african, which is the definition used here)
The laser: Theodore Harold Maiman, white.
Open Heart surgery: John Gibbon, white
The elevator: Hard to determine who actually invented it, since many forms of elevators has emerged the last 250 years and since its not clear which of these can be labeled as the "first elevator", but the different inventors are practically all white. This includes people like Werner von Siemens, Ivan Kulibin, Elisha Otis and Frank Julian Sprague, all white.
The typewriter: A white effort, predominately from Europe.
The fiber optic cable was indeed finalized by an indian (Narinder Singh Kapany), basing his work on what white physicists did. The key is still that this dude is an indian, not african, and since we are talking about blacks as in africans, he does not qualify as "black" here.
Dont forget the internal combustion engine, Nikolaus Otto, white German, and the helicopter Etienne Oehmichen, white Frenchman (while many people developed helicopter designs, his is the first that actually flew).
The gas mask was invented by a black man. You are correct about John Gibbon being the first to do open heart surgery, but he may be thinking of Daniel Hale Williams, who was the first to open the chest cavity and do internal surgery. He was technically considered black, but looking at a photo of him, he looks white. He probably had like one black relative way back in the bloodline or something.
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Thats funny especially since the vast majority of inventions that are used in the world are Black inventions...Hmmmmm...ev er wonder where the binary system came from, the typewriter, the fiber optic cable, lasers, light bulbs, elevators, helicopters, open heart surgery, gas masks, internal combustion engine etc etc etc etc
The world is in AGREEMENT that a caucasian is no higher in intellect than the dogs they love so much...maybe that is why a dog is a white mans best friend. You are known by the company you keep...
Don't know where you got all this bullshit from but I googled just a few out of curiosity and let's just say you're a little off
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That's amazing... especially since plutonium is not naturally occurring (at least not in quantities that can be recovered). It is made in nuclear reactors from Uranium.
i think he meant platinum. he must be from one of those countries with the lower IQ rates.
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You sure you did not mean Penisinium, element number Penis90.?
no meant pull in the 40s
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The gas mask was invented by a black man. You are correct about John Gibbon being the first to do open heart surgery, but he may be thinking of Daniel Hale Williams, who was the first to open the chest cavity and do internal surgery. He was technically considered black, but looking at a photo of him, he looks white. He probably had like one black relative way back in the bloodline or something.
:-X
Err, NO, the first gas mask that allowed one to breath while surrounded by poison gas was designed by Scottish chemist John Stenhouse (white) in 1854.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stenhouse
Stenhouse, not Sternhouse, lol.
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Seems like Black History Month = not filled up with many stories about very successful black inventors, eh? ;D
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i invented camels! >:(
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i invented camels! >:(
You invented raping your whore sister. >:(
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:-X
Err, NO, the first gas mask that allowed one to breath while surrounded by poison gas was designed by Scottish chemist John Stenhouse (white) in 1854.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stenhouse
Stenhouse, not Sternhouse, lol.
Interesting. A wiki article credits Garrett Morgan, a black Ameican with the invention in 1916. A bit of revisionist history going on at Wikipedia, perhaps? ;D
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i invented camels! >:(
No, I'm pretty sure Vince Basile invented those.
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You invented raping your whore sister. >:(
thats cause she's currylicious >:(
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Vince Basile
???
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???
You know, Vince Basile... inventor of everything:
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Vince Basiles IQ = 150.
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thats cause she's currylicious >:(
Junaids appears to be using ex-David Letterman writers for his material these days.
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Seems like Black History Month = not filled up with many stories about very successful black inventors, eh? ;D
Kind of hard to fill a month with people who didn't exist. ;D
Interesting. A wiki article credits Garrett Morgan, a black Ameican with the invention in 1916. A bit of revisionist history going on at Wikipedia, perhaps? ;D
Jewypedia giving in to revisionist agendas? No way. ;D
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Kind of hard to fill a month with people who didn't exist. ;D
C'mon... George Washington Carver invented the peanut, you know. ;D
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Jewypedia giving in to revisionist agendas? No way. ;D
Here's some interesting info on the gas mask and the Garrett Morgan myth:
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/gasmask/page.html
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Question: What has african people invented and contributed to mankind? Anything real worthwhile at all? Why is their continent so incredibly unsuccessful, despite having huge amounts of resources? Why are countries like Nigeria, Somalia and Sudan practically fucked up i each their own way? Can it actually be because of low IQ, partially due to genetics for dumbness? At least partially? ;D
It seems very hard to believe that africans are so god damn unsuccessful in almost everything they do compared to whites and asians accross the globe just because of "colonization" and "the white man".
At the same time, they have good genetics for sports, where they are very successful.
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Junaids appears to be using ex-David Letterman writers for his material these days.
i'm actually doing a lab with my students and posting at the same time...
i rock! ;D
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THE JOB - URINE TEST
Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I
pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In
order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test
with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the
distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I
have to pass one to earn it for them? Please under stand, I have no
problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other
hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A#@, doing
drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state
would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance
check ? :)
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passing urine test = pre-req for welfare.... AWESOME IDEA!
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absolutely, that is a genius idea.
so would temporarily sterilizing everyone while they receive welfare checks. Cant tell you how many times ive seen cops on tv and they go to some white trash/nig house and they have 5-6 kids running around.
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passing urine test = pre-req for welfare.... AWESOME IDEA!
Brilliant. No wonder our country does NOT do this. ;) Drug testing also costs money, but I'd bet you would save a bundle by testing Section 8 scum.
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Blacks haven't done shit. They've always been brutalized and owned throughout history.
Funny to me how they have to be handed the accomplishments of others. Very disrespectful.
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Interesting. A wiki article credits Garrett Morgan, a black Ameican with the invention in 1916. A bit of revisionist history going on at Wikipedia, perhaps? ;D
As for Dr. Daniel Hale Williams in 1893? No!
Dr. Williams repaired a wound not in the heart muscle itself, but in the sac surrounding it, the pericardium. This operation was not the first of its type: Henry Dalton of St. Louis performed a nearly identical operation two years earlier, with the patient fully recovering. Decades before that, the Spaniard Francisco Romero carried out the first successful pericardial surgery of any type, incising the pericardium to drain fluid compressing the heart.
Surgery on the actual human heart muscle, and not just the pericardium, was first successfully accomplished by Ludwig Rehn of Germany when he repaired a wounded right ventricle in 1896. More than 50 years later came surgery on the open heart, pioneered by John Lewis, C. Walton Lillehei (often called the "father of open heart surgery") and John Gibbon (who invented the heart-lung machine).
Source: brinkster; demolishing the pro-black, anti-white Jew owned About.com (such fine purveyors of these black invention myths) for years now.
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions
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Question: What has african people invented and contributed to mankind? Anything real worthwhile at all? Why is their continent so incredibly unsuccessful, despite having huge amounts of resources? Why are countries like Nigeria, Somalia and Sudan practically fucked up i each their own way? Can it actually be because of low IQ, partially due to genetics for dumbness? At least partially? ;D
It seems very hard to believe that africans are so god damn unsuccessful in almost everything they do compared to whites and asians accross the globe just because of "colonization" and "the white man".
At the same time, they have good genetics for sports, where they are very successful.
Has the Great Debussey read the Pulitzer prize winning Guns, Germs, and Steel?
http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Jared-Diamond/dp/0739467352/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210749931&sr=8-2
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/IQ_by_Country.png
Seems accurate, I'm in the green zone ;D
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
classic sub 100 IQ reply there 240. way to hold up GB.com's average.
it doesnt surprise me at all considering that a "100" IQ is the population mean.
Thats what IQ is. It's the mean intelligence of the population.
It is biased towards certain types of learning, sure, but its designed so that knowledge plays only a small part..so those countries that arent exposed to problems that require analytical or perceptual practice could score lower...but its more the test than the intelligence thats at fault.
the idea is that for a large enough sample of people tested, the average score is taken, and that becomes equal to 100. People who score 50% better score 150, 50% worse score 50.
so, the chart doesnt really show who's smart and who's not- its more an indication of how applicable the IQ test is across the world.
believe it or not, genetically, out of a million people in afghanistan, or ethiopia or kazhakstan- the same number of people will be genius' as for any other country. Its a relative measure.
a person in the US, who is 50% smarter than the average will be just as smart as a person in nigeria who is 50% smarter than that average.
Cultural differences push the absolute score up and down around the mean. China- being heavily populated and industrialised has alot of people competing for their livelihood and its not surprising that they score well. Other countries do better in the gene pool also..just born smarter.
hate to say it, but hitler's purge probably resulted in a lift of the avg IQ and its legacy for generations. not in particular the jewish, but what he referred to as the lame and weak etc etc.
china has a history of similar purging but itd be a long bow to suggest that that's the reason.
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classic sub 100 IQ reply there 240. way to hold up GB.com's average.
it doesnt surprise me at all considering that a "100" IQ is the population mean.
Thats what IQ is. It's the mean intelligence of the population.
It is biased towards certain types of learning, sure, but its designed so that knowledge plays only a small part..so those countries that arent exposed to problems that require analytical or perceptual practice could score lower...but its more the test than the intelligence thats at fault.
the idea is that for a large enough sample of people tested, the average score is taken, and that becomes equal to 100. People who score 50% better score 150, 50% worse score 50.
so, the chart doesnt really show who's smart and who's not- its more an indication of how applicable the IQ test is across the world.
believe it or not, genetically, out of a million people in afghanistan, or ethiopia or kazhakstan- the same number of people will be genius' as for any other country. Its a relative measure.
a person in the US, who is 50% smarter than the average will be just as smart as a person in nigeria who is 50% smarter than that average.
Cultural differences push the absolute score up and down around the mean. China- being heavily populated and industrialised has alot of people competing for their livelihood and its not surprising that they score well. Other countries do better in the gene pool also..just born smarter.
hate to say it, but hitler's purge probably resulted in a lift of the avg IQ and its legacy for generations. not in particular the jewish, but what he referred to as the lame and weak etc etc.
china has a history of similar purging but itd be a long bow to suggest that that's the reason.
You're trying to get around the problem by limiting the population to individual nations. 100 is intended to be the world average (or more precisely, the average for everyone who ever has or ever will take the test), not the individual average for every population tested, no matter how relatively small the sample size. ::)
That's like giving a class of students in school A a math test of 50 questions, and if the mean number answered correctly is 40, assiging a value of "100" to 40 questions answered correctly since it is the mean, then creating a normal distributin around that number. You then give the same test to students in school B, and they score a mean of only 19 questions answered correctly. By your logic, you would then assign a value of "100" to 19 questions answered correctly, and create a normal distribution, and then argue that both schools are equally intelligent, since they both have the same number of students at 100, the same number at 110, the same number at 90, etc. Obviously, that's not the case, though, since the students at school B can only solve 19 math problems out of 50, while the students at school A can solve 40.
You could argue flaws in the test all you want, since it doesn't back up the "politically correct" view of the world, but the real-world success (or lack thereof) in populations who score very low on the test seems to back up its validity.
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Good brains, horrid physical genetics.
This coming from you. ::) You look like a pile of burning dogshit. :P
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Well, in summation, whether they are smarter or not, they still have not learned basics like feeding their countrymen.
This speaks volumes, more so than the pissing contest as to who has the highest IQ
And your countrymen have?
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Ask John McCain. ;)
Hey he was the one bombing women and children.
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C'mon... George Washington Carver invented the peanut, you know. ;D
And if it wasn't for Edward "Skippy" Williamson and Frederick "Jif" Armstrong -two white men! - he'd be famous today! ;)
/too obscure?
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Kind of hard to fill a month with people who didn't exist. ;D
Jewypedia giving in to revisionist agendas? No way. ;D
Hey Matt C got any more pics of your sister?
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the only reason blacks are 'better' at sports is because its all they do. they dont study for tests or do homework like white/asian kids so they can get into a college, instead they stay outside all day playing basketball.
when they dont make it to the pros they have nothing else to fall back on, and you know the rest.
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I still call bullshit on the Italians > 100. It's also weird that Norway, Denmark and Finland has lower then Sweden when our genes and education systems are practically identical (Finns with russian blood could perhaps be blamed for Finlands low score). I also doubt that England is > 100. I've met a lot of brits and none of them impressed me with their intelligence or common knowledge, to put it mildly. A lot of inbreeding on that small island...
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I still call bullshit on the Italians > 100. It's also weird that Norway, Denmark and Finland has lower then Sweden when our genes and education systems are practically identical (Finns with russian blood could perhaps be blamed for Finlands low score). I also doubt that England is > 100. I've met a lot of brits and none of them impressed me with their intelligence or common knowledge, to put it mildly. A lot of inbreeding on that small island...
Well you are harldy a brainbox. 3 countries with borders does not equal an island. britain is not an island.
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WOW they actually showed singapore in green (>100) among others where it is soooooooooo small below malaysia, at somewhere near the top left of australia. Singapore is really just a small dot in the world map but i am glad they didn't neglect it! :)
got to strain the eyes a actually to see the little green dot
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Has the Great Debussey read the Pulitzer prize winning Guns, Germs, and Steel?
http://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Jared-Diamond/dp/0739467352/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210749931&sr=8-2
I have read it. The book is a large apologetical speech for the failure of Africa, but it cannot explain the black-white-asian IQ gap at present.
Also, I think one should be clear about what "black" means. The term in this context refers to people of mainly African descent (south of Sahara).
People of this descent as a group fail in academia all over the world. I've been to several large international scientific conferences in medicine, and I have seen extemely few people of clear southern-african descent at such conferences, not from the USA or South America, not from Europe and not from Africa. The systematic failure of blacks in the very top level of academia wherever in the world they live is a very real phenomenon. Fortunately, academics is not everything.
CD
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7e/IQ_by_Country.png
This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100. If not, re-norming is preferrably carried out.
However, crackpot scientists such as Lynn and Vanhanen have tried to extrapolate "IQ" from various sources. The thing they are studying is not IQ, however. Perhaps their findings have merit as some sort of demographical measure. Actually, the infamous J. Phillippe Rushton has done research of better quality than Lynn and Vanhanen.
CD
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Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.
Your forefathers were living in caves, fucking their sister and shitting in rivers while the Egyptians were building the most amazing of all structures; the pyramids, the great lighthouse, they study math and astronomy.
Think about that friends.
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Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.
Your forefathers were living in caves, fucking their sister and shitting in rivers while the Egyptians were building the most amazing of all structures; the pyramids, the great lighthouse, they study math and astronomy.
Think about that friends.
Yes, and Egyptians are not very similar to south-western Africans :-).
CD
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In terms of intelligence:
Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.
This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing. It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science. It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial. It's scientific fact. The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.
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This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100.
You're making the same mistake disco_stu did... 100 is not the national average, country-by-country, it is set at the humankind average, the world average, the average of everyone who has ever taken the test. If you re-norm the distribution for every country individually how in god's name do you expect to compare relative intelligence worldwide? Doing it that way, every country would have a mean of 100, since whatever the individual country's mean score was would automatically be defined as "100". ::)
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In terms of intelligence:
Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.
This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing. It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science. It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial. It's scientific fact. The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.
The failure of blacks in pursuits that require high level cognitive skills = quite clear. There is at the present time no way to get around this, and as history has shown again and again: The apologetic routine and delusions based upon contemporary norms and beliefs might inhibit the truth from surfacing in the short term, but in the long term truth always wins and eventually becomes an established fact. More and more people will eventually see and accept this, especially when the knowledge of genetics becomes so advanced that the genes (or lack of genes) that = responsible for the weak cognitive abilities of the average black humanoid can be identified, and eventually eradicated through genetic engineering.
Debussey does not like to say this, but in a world that increasingly values and requires solid cognitive skills, being dumb is like having a disease. When genetic engineering can help stupid people become at least somewhat less dull or normal, these people will no doubt all become engineered. Who the fuck wants to live with a disadvantage that robs them of a lot of good stuff, when it can be easily fixed (in the future, that is)? That's like saying: I love to live with the Alzheimer's or cancer that my genes gave me, and I won't change it!!!
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sigh.
i never made that mistake. re -read my post.
i explained that in any given sample the average is normed to 100.
then i went on to explain that the IQ test as we know it is biased towards cultures that are analytical by nature and exposed to that type of issues/problems.
its absolutely not the humankind average. can you imagine the scores achieved by people who've never seen numbers before?...(hence cant identify numerical patterns and sequences?)
i made no mistake. The mistake is the morons who read my post looking for something to pull me up on and are grasping at straws and reading things that arent there.
in hypothetical terms, every country WILL have a IQ of 100 as its mean. It is a measure of chronological age versus intelligence age. So by definition is HAS TO BE 100.
The issue is that each country, due to its culture, has to have a suitable measure that is indicative. Using 1 standard IQ test doesnt achieve this.
That's why the chart is BS. As I clearly states, the chart is more a measure of how applicable tha IQ test is globally. i.e. it isnt effective.
please re-read my post properly before replying in future.
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This is probably pure bullshit. IQ tests are not ratio-scales. They are normed for the group they are to be used for assessing individuals from and average is set to 100 and the standard deviation to 15 (for WAIS). By definition, the national average is 100. If not, re-norming is preferrably carried out.
However, crackpot scientists such as Lynn and Vanhanen have tried to extrapolate "IQ" from various sources. The thing they are studying is not IQ, however. Perhaps their findings have merit as some sort of demographical measure. Actually, the infamous J. Phillippe Rushton has done research of better quality than Lynn and Vanhanen.
CD
you are exactly correct CD.
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In terms of intelligence:
Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.
This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing. It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science. It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial. It's scientific fact. The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.
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i'd love to see the scientific double blind test that gave these findings..any of them. Can you please send some legitimate references?
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I have read it. The book is a large apologetical speech for the failure of Africa, but it cannot explain the black-white-asian IQ gap at present.
Also, I think one should be clear about what "black" means. The term in this context refers to people of mainly African descent (south of Sahara).
People of this descent as a group fail in academia all over the world. I've been to several large international scientific conferences in medicine, and I have seen extemely few people of clear southern-african descent at such conferences, not from the USA or South America, not from Europe and not from Africa. The systematic failure of blacks in the very top level of academia wherever in the world they live is a very real phenomenon. Fortunately, academics is not everything.
CD
Blacks born in US/Europe - "Whitey be holdin' a brother down"... Blacks born in Asia - "Chinks be holdin' a brother down"... Blacks born in Latin America... "Damn Spics be holdin' a brother down". Africa itself, where there are no whites, asians, or latinos to hold him down? Colonialism (even though it ended generations ago) "be holdin' a brother down"! Seems there's always someone to blame, huh? ;D
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sigh.
i never made that mistake. re -read my post.
i explained that in any given sample the average is normed to 100.
then i went on to explain that the IQ test as we know it is biased towards cultures that are analytical by nature and exposed to that type of issues/problems.
its absolutely not the humankind average. can you imagine the scores achieved by people who've never seen numbers before?...(hence cant identify numerical patterns and sequences?)
i made no mistake. The mistake is the morons who read my post looking for something to pull me up on and are grasping at straws and reading things that arent there.
in hypothetical terms, every country WILL have a IQ of 100 as its mean. It is a measure of chronological age versus intelligence age. So by definition is HAS TO BE 100.
The issue is that each country, due to its culture, has to have a suitable measure that is indicative. Using 1 standard IQ test doesnt achieve this.
That's why the chart is BS. As I clearly states, the chart is more a measure of how applicable tha IQ test is globally. i.e. it isnt effective.
please re-read my post properly before replying in future.
Without taking a stand to what you say, the charts implications does hold up in the states: African americans born and raised in the USA DO score much lower than whites and orientals. Even blacks of a much higher socialeconomical status in the states on average scores about 10 points lower than low middle class whites and orientals. Careful analysis by Arthur Jensen and others of these results has concluded that these differences =mainly genetical.
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Blacks born in US/Europe - "Whitey be holdin' a brother down"... Blacks born in Asia - "Chinks be holdin' a brother down"... Blacks born in Latin America... "Damn Spics be holdin' a brother down". Africa itself, where there are no whites, asians, or latinos to hold him down? Colonialism (even though it ended generations ago) "be holdin' a brother down"! Seems there's always someone to blame, huh? ;D
It = no wonder that Africa = basically a complete mess ;D
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GB you're obviously a fine product of the pseudo aryan half race..bastards themselves and now consisting of societies undereducated, underachieving, undercontributing extremists.
what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.
rather than have pillars of society, contributors, leaders, fine specimens genetically and as progression champions we have a collection of people who resort to violence due to inability to construct a party or group that works within the bounds of society's laws and rules that are used to govern, control and determine how the community works.
until then, this pathetic group is merely a bunch of knuckle dragging losers who whine and complain about how other "races" have it better than them and it's not fair..wah wah wah.
the solution is to get together a smart group that woos the public and provides a benchmark of excellence. Which would mean distancing itself as far as possible from the likes of yourself and the tattoo covered bald headed morons that you follow like sheep.
The same goes for any "group" wanting rights and equality etc. It furthermore needs to be able to establish basis for equality and also that inequality exists in the first place.
any other method of doing it results in war on many levels. People just dont put up with crap like bullying and violence for very long.
Maybe a demographic map sorted into extremist groups and showing IQs would be more interesting?- I'd be very surprised if the white brotherhood scored above 90 avg. on the standardised western test. - purely based on inability to conceptualise the complexities of the world we live in.
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Italians (Romans) were the first to modernise Europe. They learnt much from the Greeks who learnt much from the first great civilization in human history : Egypt.
Sorry, Nasser:
Archaeology has now established that civilization appeared earlier in southern Mesopotamia than anywhere else. Urban conglomerations of populations, monumental architecture and writing were all in existence by 3500 BC, whereas they did not appear in Egypt for several centuries after this.
http://www.appiusforum.com/civilizations.html
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GB you're obviously a fine product of the pseudo aryan half race..bastards themselves and now consisting of societies undereducated, underachieving, undercontributing extremists.
what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.
rather than have pillars of society, contributors, leaders, fine specimens genetically and as progression champions we have a collection of people who resort to violence due to inability to construct a party or group that works within the bounds of society's laws and rules that are used to govern, control and determine how the community works.
until then, this pathetic group is merely a bunch of knuckle dragging losers who whine and complain about how other "races" have it better than them and it's not fair..wah wah wah.
the solution is to get together a smart group that woos the public and provides a benchmark of excellence. Which would mean distancing itself as far as possible from the likes of yourself and the tattoo covered bald headed morons that you follow like sheep.
The same goes for any "group" wanting rights and equality etc. It furthermore needs to be able to establish basis for equality and also that inequality exists in the first place.
any other method of doing it results in war on many levels. People just dont put up with crap like bullying and violence for very long.
Maybe a demographic map sorted into extremist groups and showing IQs would be more interesting?- I'd be very surprised if the white brotherhood scored above 90 avg. on the standardised western test. - purely based on inability to conceptualise the complexities of the world we live in.
What = your IQ?
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what you write is contradictory to your avatar and signature in that the whole point of the hitler lead "cleansing" was to erradicate the ignorant, stupid and lame- yet this is the core of the group now as we know it.
The signature is solely to poke fun at Ron Avidan and political correctness. I'm a Nazi like you're a Mongolian lesbian. ::)
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Without taking a stand to what you say, the charts implications does hold up in the states: African americans born and raised in the USA DO score much lower than whites and orientals. Even blacks of a much higher socialeconomical status in the states on average scores about 10 points lower than low middle class whites and orientals. Careful analysis by Arthur Jensen and others of these results has concluded that these differences =mainly genetical.
references please. double blind tests. Whats this guys credentials?.. is it accepted my the medical community?
2 things.. genetical- never heard of it, and another- if they do, then it follows that the majority of the white population in the US is dumber than the rest of the world's who have an average of 100. This has to occur as the number of "black people" would bring the norm down, so someone scoring 100 in the US would probably only get 95 or less elsewhere.
I'm having a real problem accepting genetic intelligence differences considering we all stemmed from the very same blueprint and culture and environment evolved the physical differences. Not saying that the stats are false- but suggesting that theres no difference in potential- which is what IQ tests are supposed to capture.
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The signature is solely to poke fun at Ron Avidan and political correctness. I'm a Nazi like you're a Mongolian lesbian. ::)
very clever comeback. tasteful and appropriate.
you shouldve just posted a pic with your tongue out..woulda been just as effective.
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In terms of intelligence:
Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.
This has been proven again and again through psychometric testing. It's not that I WANT to believe this, it's that it has been firmly established in the realms of science. It may be controversial, but it is not conspiratorial. It's scientific fact. The same science which brings our technology and medicine yields these results.
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Why would you rate jews second when they score higher than any other group on average?
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.. genetical- never heard of it
English isn't his first language... cut him some slack.
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id love to give al sharpton a link to this thread
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very clever comeback. tasteful and appropriate.
you shouldve just posted a pic with your tongue out..woulda been just as effective.
What did you want, a dissertation? I don't find it necessary to rebut arguments that don't apply to me.
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What = your IQ?
WAAAY higher than yours..and goatboys for that matter.
which means either of you would look like fools in an argument with me.
and im not alone..just theres less of my kind and more of the dumb ass mob. What annoys me is that people like yourselves can own guns and vote.
its like putting a passenger aircraft's controls into the hands of who the mob thinks can do the best job of landing it.
but hey, thats the fundamental flaw in democracies.
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id love to give al sharpton a link to this thread
RACISM EXISTS IN BODYBUILDIN', SIRHH!
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Why would you rate jews second when they score higher than any other group on average?
arent jews white?
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references please. double blind tests. Whats this guys credentials?.. is it accepted my the medical community?
2 things.. genetical- never heard of it, and another- if they do, then it follows that the majority of the white population in the US is dumber than the rest of the world's who have an average of 100. This has to occur as the number of "black people" would bring the norm down, so someone scoring 100 in the US would probably only get 95 or less elsewhere.
I'm having a real problem accepting genetic intelligence differences considering we all stemmed from the very same blueprint and culture and environment evolved the physical differences. Not saying that the stats are false- but suggesting that theres no difference in potential- which is what IQ tests are supposed to capture.
Debussey will dig up some references for you. (Ask MattCock, he's got them on his computer).
You say: "I'm having a real problem accepting genetic intelligence differences considering we all stemmed from the very same blueprint and culture and environment evolved the physical differences." -> Think about this: There ARE genetic differences between blacks and whites. Here are some: "On average, compared with whites, blacks mature more quickly in the womb, are born earlier, and develop teeth, strength, and dexterity earlier. They sit, crawl, walk, and dress themselves earlier. They reach sexual maturity faster, and they have better eyesight. On each of these measures, East Asians lag whites and blacks. In exchange, East Asians get longer lives and bigger brains."
-> Why is it so hard to believe that there are genetical differences between blacks and whites in regards to intelligence, when there are other genetical differences between blacks and whites going far beyond just skin color ::)
Some references:
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9530
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
http://www.gifted.uconn.edu/siegle/research/Correlation/Intelligence.pdf
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WAAAY higher than yours..and goatboys for that matter.
which means either of you would look like fools in an argument with me.
and im not alone..just theres less of my kind and more of the dumb ass mob. What annoys me is that people like yourselves can own guns and vote.
its like putting a passenger aircraft's controls into the hands of who the mob thinks can do the best job of landing it.
but hey, thats the fundamental flaw in democracies.
So what is it?
For your information, Debusseys IQ = 53.
"but hey, thats the fundamental flaw in democracies." -> Are you refering to what Chris Langan called "dumb()/%)equilibrium"? ;D
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-> Why is it so hard to believe that there are genetical differences between blacks and whites in regards to intelligence, when there are other genetical differences between blacks and whites going far beyond just skin color ::)
Because he's a liberal elitist twit who has his nose so far in the air I'm surprised he doesn't drown during rainstorms.
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Because he's a liberal elitist twit who has his nose so far in the air I'm surprised he doesn't drown during rainstorms.
Since he claims to have a much higher IQ than you who almost score SD3, he must have an IQ at least somewhat above 150. Do you believe that? ;D
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i'd love to see the scientific double blind test that gave these findings..any of them. Can you please send some legitimate references?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html
nobel prize winning scientist who discovered DNA says blacks are less intelligent than whites due to genetics. And then they complain that hes racist for stating scientific facts ::)
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Since he claims to have a much higher IQ than you who almost score SD3, he must have an IQ at least somewhat above 150. Do you believe that? ;D
I doubt it. I'd put him above average, but I'd be surprised if he's as intelligent as he thinks he is.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html
nobel prize winning scientist who discovered DNA says blacks are less intelligent than whites due to genetics. And then they complain that hes racist for stating scientific facts ::)
Yeah, just last year James Watson gave a sample of his DNA for testing (how appropriate, right?)...well, it turns out he had some guy in the woodpile. LOL. What a maroon. :D
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guys IQ tests are so unreliable, it all depends on the person giving the test really, many people have had such high standard deviations, when they took certian tests with different instructors.
anyways back on topic
yeah jews are kinda smart haha
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guys IQ tests are so unreliable, it all depends on the person giving the test really, many people have had such high standard deviations, when they took certian tests with different instructors.
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Do you have real insight into the science behind IQ testing that qualifies you to make such a statement? ::)
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302836,00.html
nobel prize winning scientist who discovered DNA says blacks are less intelligent than whites due to genetics. And then they complain that hes racist for stating scientific facts ::)
Interesting. Then...I guess I'm living a dream since I'll have my MBA/Ph.D (Phar Science) completed in the next 2-3 yrs and I'm black. For some reason I remember all my past genetics professors saying this kind of datum is all cramp. Any man in science with an agenda (Bell Curve) came up with the his own numbers...given it isnt exact. Getdumb keyboard superstars know it all.
Scientists in Germany were calling themselves Homo superior just 45-50 yrs ago. Oh...boy!
BTW...most Africans that come to the states can speak several langs, excel in academics, and usually out perform the hometowns including whites. Sometimes environment and access play a greater role.
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I'll have my MBA/Ph.D (Phar Science) completed in the next 2-3 yrs and I'm black.
Impossible.
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Here's a good quote from Craig Venter, whom you might have heard of - the human genome guy:
"Skin colour as a surrogate for race is a social concept not a scientific one," Dr Venter said. "There is no basis in scientific fact or in the human genetic code for the notion that skin colour will be predictive of intelligence."
/people, you must keep in mind that there is more genetic variation within the races than between them ;)
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Impossible. Unpossible.
Fixed! ;)
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Impossible.
Thanks.
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I'm actually a 4 legged salamander from Ghana, and I eat penis.
:oFixed! ;)
Wrong. It = impossible.
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Interesting. Then...I guess I'm living a dream since I'll have my MBA/Ph.D (Phar Science) completed in the next 2-3 yrs and I'm black. For some reason I remember all my past genetics professors saying this kind of datum is all cramp. Any man in science with an agenda (Bell Curve) came up with the his own numbers...given it isnt exact. Getdumb keyboard superstars know it all.
Scientists in Germany were calling themselves Homo superior just 45-50 yrs ago. Oh...boy!
BTW...most Africans that come to the states can speak several langs, excel in academics, and usually out perform the hometowns including whites. Sometimes environment and access play a greater role.
Actually, you'll find that migrants on the whole are more 'intelligent' than average. This should be no surprise, and I would posit that the greater the distance traveled the greater the difference thereof.
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Actually, you'll find that migrants on the whole are more 'intelligent' than average. This should be no surprise, and I would posit that the greater the distance traveled the greater the difference thereof.
Have you ever been to Europe? ;D
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Interesting. Then...I guess I'm living a dream since I'll have my MBA/Ph.D (Phar Science) completed in the next 2-3 yrs and I'm black.
No one said individual black people cannot be very intelligent... we're talking about group averages here.
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Actually, you'll find that migrants on the whole are more 'intelligent' than average. This should be no surprise, and I would posit that the greater the distance traveled the greater the difference thereof.
Africans would be immigrants (one country to another). Mexicans are migrates (one region to another). It's not like the US and Mexico arent connected. This is getting old. Users trying to prove they know more...just the like the old fart in that article. His prize isnt worth anything to me...given this is all he can come up with. I'm sure some Germans still think they are superior to Jews.
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You're making the same mistake disco_stu did... 100 is not the national average, country-by-country, it is set at the humankind average, the world average, the average of everyone who has ever taken the test. If you re-norm the distribution for every country individually how in god's name do you expect to compare relative intelligence worldwide? Doing it that way, every country would have a mean of 100, since whatever the individual country's mean score was would automatically be defined as "100". ::)
IQ would be set as humankind average if a test could be constructed that fairly could measure people of different language and cultural background with the exact same stimuli items. The best test I know about, the WAIS-III, is fairly language dependent. Thus, different language versions have been developed.
J. Phillippe Rushton and other try to cirumvent this by using the nonverbal Raven matrices test. While that test is a good non-verbal IQ test, it fails to assess most of the facets of IQ, most notably verbal intelligence.
CD
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In terms of intelligence:
Whites > Orientals/Jews > Dark > Darker > Darkest.
This is wrong.
East-asians>whites>blacks of southern african descent. Check out the work of J. Phillippe Rushton.
CD
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Africans would be immigrants (one country to another). Mexicans are migrates (one region to another). It's not like the US and Mexico arent connected. This is getting old. Users trying to prove they know more...just the like the old fart in that article. His prize isnt worth anything to me...given this is all he can come up with. I'm sure some Germans still think they are superior to Jews.
That's the great thing about empirical research. Ashkenazi jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi) are on IQ tests the highest scoring ethnical group of all that have been measured.
Thus, they are smarter than germans :).
CD
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Interesting. Then...I guess I'm living a dream since I'll have my MBA/Ph.D (Phar Science) completed in the next 2-3 yrs and I'm black. For some reason I remember all my past genetics professors saying this kind of datum is all cramp. Any man in science with an agenda (Bell Curve) came up with the his own numbers...given it isnt exact. Getdumb keyboard superstars know it all.
academics, and usually out perform the hometowns including whites. Sometimes environment and access play a greater role.
IQ-differences between blacks and whites are averages in large groups. Thus, it is not that relevant for you as an individual.
Most people who complete a Phd have at least 115+ in IQ, and that represents +2 standard deviations for the black population in the US (given an average of 85 and SD of 15). This means that at least 2% of the blacks in the US should be able to get a Phd (given that the 115+ requirement holds).
The IQ-gap becomes more interesting as we move upwards on the IQ-scale. 2% of whites attain an IQ score of 130+, but only 0.13% of the blacks (again assuming a mean of 85 and SD of 15). For an IQ of 145, the proportion of whites is 0.13% and for blacks 0.00317%.
This may help explain why blacks struggle to reach the highest levels of academical achievement, rarely becoming internationally known scientists. The group difference in IQ becomes more and more important at the extreme ends of the distribution.
CD
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IQ-differences between blacks and whites are averages in large groups. Thus, it is not that relevant for you as an individual.
Most people who complete a Phd have at least 115+ in IQ, and that represents +2 standard deviations for the black population in the US (given an average of 85 and SD of 15). This means that at least 2% of the blacks in the US should be able to get a Phd (given that the 115+ requirement holds).
The IQ-gap becomes more interesting as we move upwards on the IQ-scale. 2% of whites attain an IQ score of 130+, but only 0.13% of the blacks (again assuming a mean of 85 and SD of 15). For an IQ of 145, the proportion of whites is 0.13% and for blacks 0.00317%.
This may help explain why blacks struggle to reach the highest levels of academical achievement, seldomly becoming internationally known scientists. The group difference in IQ becomes more and more important at the extreme ends of the distribution.
CD
Actually, the number of internationally known scientists by race, while interesting, really isn't all that important. Here's the more relevant issue that people encounter on a daily basis: 85 is pretty goddamn dumb. While 15.75% of the white population is below this level, fully half of the black population is. At 60 and below, which is downright retarded, you'll find only 2% of the white population, but 15.75% of blacks.
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Actually, the number of internationally known scientists by race, while interesting, really isn't all that inportant. Here's the more relevant issue that people encounter on a daily basis: 85 is pretty goddamn dumb. While 15.75% of the white population is below this level, fully half of the black population is. At 60 and below, which is downright retarded, you'll find only 2% of the white population, but 15.75% of blacks.
The IQ-distribution is not completely symmetrical. There is a "bump" on the lower end, probably due to various pathological conditions. But what you describe is real enough and may help explain some of the problems the blacks are struggling with. Unfortunately, this explanation is great social taboo.
CD
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Yawn.
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Africans would be immigrants (one country to another). Mexicans are migrates (one region to another). It's not like the US and Mexico arent connected. This is getting old. Users trying to prove they know more...just the like the old fart in that article. His prize isnt worth anything to me...given this is all he can come up with. I'm sure some Germans still think they are superior to Jews.
Actually, all people who move are migrants. They can then be broken down into immigrants, emigrants and further into groups like emigres, refugees, those seeking labour, etc.
/pedantic, i know, but i have an ma gathering dust to prove it. ;)
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Actually, the number of internationally known scientists by race, while interesting, really isn't all that important. Here's the more relevant issue that people encounter on a daily basis: 85 is pretty goddamn dumb. While 15.75% of the white population is below this level, fully half of the black population is. At 60 and below, which is downright retarded, you'll find only 2% of the white population, but 15.75% of blacks.
Is there a correlation to the fact that african Americans constitute only 12% of the US population?
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I'm sure some Germans still think they are superior to Jews.
I haven't researched Nazism but did they really think they were superior to Jews due to higher IQ?
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I haven't researched Nazism but did they really think they were superior to Jews due to higher IQ?
Good question. Would probably depend on which side of the propaganda you were on -ie. those creating it, or those it targeted. Aryanism was just some pan-Germanic romantic ideal that a few of the inner cadre had, right? No solid basis in reality. :-\
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Good question. Would probably depend on which side of the propaganda you were on -ie. those creating it, or those it targeted. Aryanism was just some pan-Germanic romantic ideal that a few of the inner cadre had, right? No solid basis in reality. :-\
From the little I've read Nazis and Neo-Nazis think Jews are smart but damage society - their ideal of society. I mean how could they execute the plan in the "Protocols" if they were stupid?
There were some proponents of biological racism while others believed in spiritual racism.
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I doubt it. They have china tracked at over 100... when you consider that the majority of those 1.5 billion are still crapping out their windows, it seems hard to believe they have us all beat in IQ
What's your source on that?
And what's your source that they're 1.5 billion? ???
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What's your source on that?
He was mistaken... actually it is the Swedish who crap out their windows. But for them, it isn't due to poverty, it's some bizarre national fetish.
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From the little I've read Nazis and Neo-Nazis think Jews are smart but damage society - their ideal of society. I mean how could they execute the plan in the "Protocols" if they were stupid?
There were some proponents of biological racism while others believed in spiritual racism.
This is what I always find amusing: The leading Nazis - Goring, Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels - what a bunch of physically inferior specimens! :D
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This is what I always find amusing: The leading Nazis - Goring, Himmler, Hitler, Goebbels - what a bunch of physically inferior specimens! :D
At least, the top Nazis had IQs between 124 and 148, thus, they were intellectually superior to the common man/jew :D
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At least, the top Nazis had IQs between 124 and 148, thus, they were intellectually superior to the common man/jew :D
Too bad they were fat druggies with poor judgement. lol
When I saw Schindler's List I thought every Nazi was like the Amon Geoth character.
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At least, the top Nazis had IQs between 124 and 148, thus, they were intellectually superior to the common man/jew :D
Haha. I read Speer's book and he noted that when first captured/rounded up by the Allies, they were administered and IQ test and they 'crammed' and studied trying to outdo each other, like teenagers. :D
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Too bad they were fat druggies with poor judgement. lol
When I saw Schindler's List I thought every Nazi was like the Amon Geoth character.
No, the prototype Nazi was Reinhard Heydrich, an SS officer, and one of the architects of the Final Solution: tall, blue-eyed, blond - like Marlon Brando in The Young Lions. When he was assassinated, Himmler went berserk and exterminated a huge swath of people as revenge. :-\
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No, the prototype Nazi was Reinhard Heydrich, an SS officer, and one of the architects of the Final Solution: tall, blue-eyed, blond - like Marlon Brando in The Young Lions. When he was assassinated, Himmler went berserk and exterminated a huge swath of people as revenge. :-\
You actually read up on that stuff? ;D
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You actually read up on that stuff? ;D
No, that was pulled from memory. It's amazing the amount of junk I have stored up there! :-\
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Do you have real insight into the science behind IQ testing that qualifies you to make such a statement? ::)
considering my professor and his wife gives he tests and Ive helped in the process, yea I know alot about it
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considering my professor and his wife gives he tests and Ive helped in the process, yea I know alot about it
Well, its all about eating shit for dinner.
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Well, its all about eating shit for dinner.
I realize this has nothing to do with your point, but the diets of most westerners are "shit" compared to the diets of many more primitive people.
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I realize this has nothing to do with your point, but the diets of most westerners are "shit" compared to the diets of many more primitive people.
Shit like in excess calories, fats, carbs and overprocessed crapfood.. yes. But lots of poor people around the world lacks sufficient nutrient for normal health and cognitive function in their diets. Lots of primitive fucks in the 3rd world are fucked up due to lack of vitamins and such.
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Shit like in excess calories, fats, carbs and overprocessed crapfood.. yes. But lots of poor people around the world lacks sufficient nutrient for normal health and cognitive function in their diets. Lots of primitive fucks in the 3rd world are fucked up due to lack of vitamins and such.
I understood that... I just felt the need to point out that despite our mastery of food production, our diets in many ways suck so bad that some (by no means all) primitive cultures eat far better than we do, all things considered.
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I understood that... I just felt the need to point out that despite our mastery of food production, our diets in many ways suck so bad that some (by no means all) primitive cultures eat far better than we do, all things considered.
Interestingly enough, Norwegians has never been as healthy as they were during the second world war, when access to unhealthy foods were extremely low. It seems like too much resources fucks up self discipline in the generations that did not have to fight for it, while fucking up peoples health as well.
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I understood that... I just felt the need to point out that despite our mastery of food production, our diets in many ways suck so bad that some (by no means all) primitive cultures eat far better than we do, all things considered.
Their diets may seem better on paper, but most of them generally eat less to the point where it effects their mental and physical development. :-\
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What exactly is your point, chief? And don't give me a simple answer, unless you suffer from a lack of healthy braincells.
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it looks pretty accurate to me ;) 'cept i'd say italy is yellow not green, and israel is green not yellow, coz there ain't too many stupid jews :D
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I realize this has nothing to do with your point, but the diets of most westerners are "shit" compared to the diets of many more primitive people.
I'm sure MattT would disagree.
He's been all over the World.
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I'm sure MattT would disagree.
He's been all over the World.
With the exception of his trip to see Will Harris, I don't think he's ever left Saskatoon.
I wonder what the diets are like in Dubai, India? ;D
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Jews compris one fifth of one percent of the worl population.........they have been the recipients of approaching one third of all Nobel prizes. Ashkenazi jews rate five points higher on IQ teste than Sephardics.
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It must suck being born with genes that automatically puts you at a hooge disadvantage in a civilization that values intelligence more and more, no matter who you are. No amount of political correctness can ever make up for the fact that you are destined to be an enormous failure in everything you do. You can whine about political correctness and all that shit, but in the end of the day, the seed of ending up as a tremendous loser will always be in you. And the worst thing is that if you want to have kids, it's a big chance that the kids also end up with terrible genetics that automatically puts them at a biiiig disadvantage in life :D ;D
Ps: Bump for that homo Goatboy deleting his latest post to avoid being associated with time out material ;D
Jews compris one fifth of one percent of the worl population.........they have been the recipients of approaching one third of all Nobel prizes. Ashkenazi jews rate five points higher on IQ teste than Sephardics.
In this world, we have the inventors of the cannon, and the cannon fodder.
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Shit like in excess calories, fats, carbs and overprocessed crapfood.. yes. But lots of poor people around the world lacks sufficient nutrient for normal health and cognitive function in their diets. Lots of primitive fucks in the 3rd world are fucked up due to lack of vitamins and such.
yeah.. all we have for lunch is BIG FISH we caught from BIG WATER that runs and we mix it up with BIG GRASS that gows by the BIG WATER that runs :'(
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and we worshippers of big yellow thing that moves on the sky 8)
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In this world, we have the inventors of the cannon, and the cannon fodder.
Hmm. You're in Jared Diamond* territory, now.
*I believe he is of Jewish heritage. MattC in 5...4...3...2...1... :D
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I'm sure MattT would disagree.
He's been all over the World.
Including Dubai, India!
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I don't understand why you people are attacking Matt C. He simply stated facts about racial differences in average intelligence that are well known by psychometricians, and he provided evidence for everything he wrote. You people show a lack of maturity and class by responding with emotion instead of facts. Debate the man's arguments, not the man himself. What you are doing is called ad hominem, and it is the lowest that someone can go.
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I don't understand why you people are attacking Matt C. He simply stated facts about racial differences in average intelligence that are well known by psychometricians, and he provided evidence for everything he wrote. You people show a lack of maturity and class by responding with emotion instead of facts. Debate the man's arguments, not the man himself. What you are doing is called ad hominem, and it is the lowest that someone can go.
Matt Canning has proven himself to be a racist and an anti semite time and time again. But he won't be debating that topic any more. ;)
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Matt Canning has proven himself to be a racist and an anti semite time and time again. But he won't be debating that topic any more. ;)
For the nth time, no he has not. He has not said anything that can be concidered racism. He has presented objective observations backed by science, not made any value judgements. Why are you continuing with these strawman attacks? ::)
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For the nth time, no he has not. He has not said anything that can be concidered racism. He has presented objective observations backed by science, not made any value judgements. Why are you continuing with these strawman attacks? ::)
What about the one post where he said Jews have genetics for things like tracheary and deception? That's bigotry and studies backing such things up are usually written by biased biggots. He's obviously jealous of the massive sucess that jews have had. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned about the power they hold, but what I am saying is that they shouldn't be hated for being sucessful. It's funny to me how MattC stresses the importance of IQ, yet simultaneously goes against one group for being sucessful and doing what any other group would do in such a position.
Even if he backs up his arguements, the intent driving him must come into question. I think he knows many of us agree with some of his points, and that goes to show he isn't the only with those kinds of opinions, but how he presents his arguements is annoying and he will be attacked because of them. That's the nature of this forum.
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For the nth time, no he has not. He has not said anything that can be concidered racism. He has presented objective observations backed by science, not made any value judgements. Why are you continuing with these strawman attacks? ::)
Matt Canning quotes quasi-scientific studies. I can do a study that will prove anything and publish it. So does that make any person's assertions based on my study correct? No, it doesnt. And Matt Canning knows to stay out of this thread or he might just lose his meal ticket.
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Matt Canning quotes quasi-scientific studies. I can do a study that will prove anything and publish it. So does that make any person's assertions based on my study correct? No, it doesnt. And Matt Canning knows to stay out of this thread or he might just lose his meal ticket.
He fails to understand that since he have never been a part of a research in his life, anyone here who actually did anything of that sort (I personally did) know that any type of research is first and foremost exist to serve the one who is conducting it.
What about the one post where he said Jews have genetics for things like tracheary and deception? That's bigotry and studies backing such things up are usually written by biased biggots. He's obviously jealous of the massive sucess that jews have had. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned about the power they hold, but what I am saying is that they shouldn't be hated for being sucessful. It's funny to me how MattC stresses the importance of IQ, yet simultaneously goes against one group for being sucessful and doing what any other group would do in such a position.
Even if he backs up his arguements, the intent driving him must come into question. I think he knows many of us agree with some of his points, and that goes to show he isn't the only with those kinds of opinions, but how he presents his arguements is annoying and he will be attacked because of them. That's the nature of this forum.
He kept saying how Jewish people are evil, inferior, shouldn't be trusted, try control the world, want to kill his skinny ass, have big noses and whatever else sprung into his feeble mind.
He then "backed" it up with quotes from known racists LOL, and completely ignored anyones replays and just kept saying read what I post over and over....talk about an attention whore LOL.
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For the nth time, no he has not. He has not said anything that can be concidered racism. He has presented objective observations backed by science, not made any value judgements. Why are you continuing with these strawman attacks? ::)
His Jews/media ownership/conspiracy argument certainly was/is a value judgment. Strike one. Also, as you know, Matt and I have sparred over whether intelligence in biologically determined. The 'research,' to say the least, is still in very early days, yet Matt would have everyone believe that it is, at this point, academic. It is anything but, and perhaps has even gained a political edge with Obama's run for the President. Strike two. Put those strawmen on your plate and eat them. :D