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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: musclehedz on June 10, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
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first time i seen it...thanks.
will harris saying he had 25inch guns ::) i think he is a good bber..but why lie?
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Nicely put by Cuts if you ask me.
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Nicely put by Cuts if you ask me.
I didn't ask you.
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"Is there anything in bodybuilding that you consider cheating?"
"Naw... I mean everyone is looking for that edge."
That sounds like anything goes: steroids, synthol, implants, "satisfying" judges... :-[
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Nicely put by Cuts if you ask me.
i agree. he may not have alot of personality but he does seem to sound somewhat intelligent..alot better than ronnie if you ask me
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"Is there anything in bodybuilding that you consider cheating?"
"Naw... I mean everyone is looking for that edge."
That sounds like anything goes: steroids, synthol, implants, "satisfying" judges... :-[
Jay is honest here, candid and comes off as a class act , no question. However, I fear that his candid momment may come back to bite him on the butt by the witchhunters . Sad but true
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Jay is honest here, candid and comes off as a class act , no question. However, I fear that his candid momment may come back to bite him on the butt by the witchhunters . Sad but true
There is honest and smart and there is honest and dumb. Cutler (and Beoving) were honest and dumb. :-X
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"What happened to my weights"
"the 35"s? I think a girl took em"
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There is honest and smart and there is honest and dumb. Cutler (and Beoving) were honest and dumb. :-X
as much as i would prefer to agree with Howard, this comment is far more accurate.
i do absolutely admire jay and christian though. refreshing honesty. i really hope it doesn't backfire but it probably will. :(
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Chick says No.The question was once asked why BBs openly talk about using Banned substances and he said No IFBB Pro talks about their use of banned and Illegal Drugs.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Seems like another IFBB Pro telling it like it is.
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Nowhere in that clip does Jay admit to, talk about, or otherwise insinuate that he, himself, uses steroids....He talks basically in third person, and in general.
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Nowhere in that clip does Jay admit to, talk about, or otherwise insinuate that he, himself, uses steroids....He talks basically in third person, and in general.
Jay Cutler is a lifetime natural.
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Jay Cutler is a lifetime natural.
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Jay is honest here, candid and comes off as a class act , no question. However, I fear that his candid momment may come back to bite him on the butt by the witchhunters . Sad but true
He did admit it, no denying that. I don't think it'll hurt him tho. He's the man on top of the mountain.
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Jay Cutler is a lifetime natural.
Of Course Jay is Natural, he only uses Substances which the body produces naturally like test, Insulin, GH.
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Of Course Jay is Natural, he only uses Substances which the body produces naturally like test, Insulin, GH.
Exactly.
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Chick says No IFBB Pro will say they take Drugs,I think it has something to do with IFBB Drug Rules oh and it's Illegal. ::)
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Of Course Jay is Natural, he only uses Substances which the body produces naturally like test, Insulin, GH.
maybe your own body has to produce them?
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He did admit it, no denying that. I don't think it'll hurt him tho. He's the man on top of the mountain.
There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
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Cutler says steroids are in bodybuilding, he is currently the best bodybuilding has to offer.
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Cutler says steroids are in bodybuilding, he is currently the best bodybuilding has to offer.
OK....still waiting.
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
I understand you Chic. Its Jays faults... :-\
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Jay dosen't need steroids, he has muscle tech, only guys like arnold used steroids
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OK....still waiting.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/denial
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
It's not a huge deal, Bob. This is his quote. I respect his honesty here. i've always preferred Coleman over Cutler, but he has some serious pizazz in this clip. I'm curious which Jay is on Jay's new dvd... I might just buy it.
"There are steroids involved in the sport, obviously. You do what you do to be the best at what you do. You do what you do to win. You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge. And that's why I'm the best"
-Jay Cutler
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/denial
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awesome post...very relevant.
Now please post the quote from the clip where he admits to it?
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
Chick, why should Jay or any professional bodybuilder be reluctant to admit taking steroids?
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It's not a huge deal, Bob. This is his quote. I respect his honesty here. i've always preferred Coleman over Cutler, but he has some serious pizazz in this clip. I'm curious which Jay is on Jay's new dvd... I might just buy it.
"There are steroids involved in the sport, obviously. You do what you do to be the best at what you do. You do what you do to win. You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge. And that's why I'm the best"
-Jay Cutler
Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.
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awesome post...very relevant.
Now please post the quote from the clip where he admits to it?
does he have to raise his right hand, swear by god and literally utter the words?
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"There are steroids involved in the sport, obviously. You do what you do to be the best at what you do. You do what you do to win. You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge. And that's why I'm the best"
-Jay Cutler
You do what you have to do to be the best. (steroids)
You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge (steroids)
That's why I'm the best (steroids).
Shit, cutler is gonna get suspended just like that one Christian dude.
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Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.
I agree with Chick. There is no admission. Still if someone wanted to start picking on the IFBB this would be on piece of evidence that could come up (not sure it would matter as there is already so much out there).
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Cutler is down with the use....
this interview
his fridge shot
Jay rules
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oh brother, nice attempt to change the subject.
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
Gayer than being worried that the current Mr Olympia may have admitted using steroids.
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Nowhere in that clip does Jay admit to, talk about, or otherwise insinuate that he, himself, uses steroids....He talks basically in third person, and in general.
sure he does..
how can you hear someone say "you have to" and not know that he's saying "I have to " ?
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Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.
Chick, stop it.
You are really starting to look like a Moron.
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This video is why Jay is the Champion, He states it, and no big deal,
Props to Jay. He doesnt advertise it, or promote it,
never flatly denies it.
He admits that BBing will NEVER be a household sport,
because of the rampant drug use.
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Chick, stop it.
You are really starting to look like a Moron.
How do you figure...?
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sure he does..
how can you hear someone say "you have to" and not know that he's saying "I have to " ?
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You can interpret, or surmise any way you wish...thats not the point. The point is, there is no admission of him (personally) using steroids. Whether or not we know he does, think he does, or believe he does is irrelevant to the discussion.
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You can interpret, or surmise any way you wish...thats not the point. The point is, there is no admission of him (personally) using steroids. Whether or not we know he does, think he does, or believe he does is irrelevant to the discussion.
damn steroids are really a big part of your life arent they....
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Have you seen my baseball?
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Hey Chick just like that Namat guy plenty of IFBB Pros talk about their Illegal Drug use it's nothing new just like Jay says you do what you got to do to be the best and as long as the IFBB don't Fukin Drug test we can do what the Fuk we want with Drugs.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .This is why other sports people don't openly talk about their Drug Use.Can you imagine NFL guys talking it up like JAY did.NO ::)
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You can interpret, or surmise any way you wish...thats not the point. The point is, there is no admission of him (personally) using steroids. Whether or not we know he does, think he does, or believe he does is irrelevant to the discussion.
he's not talking about what people are doing in something he's not involved in,he's talking about what people are doing in something he IS involved in and that's where your denial hits the wall...
he IS part of the group he's referencing,and when you're part of the group you're referencing that "you" turns into an "I"....
basically the only way that interview could be percieved as him not using gear is if he flat out denied it...which he did'nt
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he's not talking about what people are doing in something he's not involved in,he's talking about what people are doing in something he IS involved in and that's where your denial hits the wall...
he IS part of the group he's referencing,and when you're part of the group you're referencing that "you" turns into an "I"....
basically the only way that interview could be percieved as him not using gear is if he flat out denied it...which he did'nt
Yes Chick now read this and take your ball back to Manion.Unless the IFBB do Drug tests as per their own Rules everybody knows of the heavy Drugs use and how illegal it is.
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he's not talking about what people are doing in something he's not involved in,he's talking about what people are doing in something he IS involved in and that's where your denial hits the wall...
he IS part of the group he's referencing,and when you're part of the group you're referencing that "you" turns into an "I"....
basically the only way that interview could be percieved as him not using gear is if he flat out denied it...which he did'nt
"Perceived" is your key phrase there....
I don't have to deny anything...I'm going by what I heard..and that was Jay talking in a general sense, and in third person.
Believe whatever you want, I'm dealing with fact.
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Have you seen my baseball?
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we get it ::)
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Hey Chick just like that Namat guy plenty of IFBB Pros talk about their Illegal Drug use it's nothing new just like Jay says you do what you got to do to be the best and as long as the IFBB don't Fukin Drug test we can do what the Fuk we want with Drugs.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .This is why other sports people don't openly talk about their Drug Use.Can you imagine NFL guys talking it up like JAY did.NO ::)
Testing is not the solution. Designer steroids, short ester products,masking agents and lots of other stuff make drug tests look like childsplay.
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first time i seen it...thanks.
will harris saying he had 25inch guns ::) i think he is a good bber..but why lie?
LOL. Even Phil Heath probably doesn't have 25" guns at least not contest time.
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"Perceived" is your key phrase there....
I don't have to deny anything...I'm going by what I heard..and that was Jay talking in a general sense, and in third person.
Believe whatever you want, I'm dealing with fact.
And what Fact would that be?That another IFBB Pro talks openly about their Drug use.Seems to be a FACT with a lot of IFBB Pros.So what are we to believe Chick that Jay doesn't use Banned Substances is that what you would have us believe.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.
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And what Fact would that be?That another IFBB Pro talks openly about their Drug use.Seems to be a FACT with a lot of IFBB Pros.So what are we to believe Chick that Jay doesn't use Banned Substances is that what you would have us believe.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm.
You can believe anything you wish... I don't have to have you believe anything, Jay made the comments.
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When something is so obvious why does anybody need to spell it out? Look at these people and ask yourself is it necessary that they admit to using steroids, etc? Is it necessary to ask Ronnie Coleman if he eats more than the average recreational weight lifter?
Why should Cutler, Chick or anyone else for that matter divulge a private matter? These people do not owe anyone else an explanation or a confession. It's their lives and their decisions and it's frankly nobody else's business.
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Nice point sort of like a Junkie he says he doesn't use Esp to the Cops. ::)
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I think Chick's laughing out loud right now and taking you all for a ride ;D
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
Bob Chick, do you still deny having taken illegal steroids to build your body?
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I think Chick's laughing out loud right now and taking you all for a ride ;D
Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.
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if you are so indifferent, then why are you lying (yet again) on Jay's behalf? Is that another one of your duties? to pretend Mr. Olympia is drug free
You can believe anything you wish... I don't have to have you believe anything, Jay made the comments.
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Jay Cutler is a smart person.
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if you are so indifferent, then why are you lying (yet again) on Jay's behalf? Is that another one of your duties? to pretend Mr. Olympia is drug free
Don't ask the HARD questions Please.
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Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.
well, then there's also the Christian situation,
with him getting fired for being so open.
A LOT of room for law suits right about now, so it actually IS IMPORTANT that JAY did not come right out and admit using illegal drugs.
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
C'mon Chic, he actually says " I have that edge and that is why I am the best" at the end of the interview.
The edge he refered to was steroids which he said was part of bodybuilding.
This is pretty clear and I suspect you realize that.
Jay is a good guy and I admire him, I just think it was a mistake to be that candid in the current steroid witch hunts by congress.
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damn steroids are really a big part of your life arent they....
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Each and everyday there are plenty of reasons for Law Suits against the IFBB.Most Pros don't want to rock the boat.Just think of how much illegal drug use goes on with Pros 6 weeks out from a show.FFS how many of these guys end up in hospital getting abscess cut from a bad shot. Fuk even Milos spent time dying from a bad Synthol shot but yet Nothing is done about it.Seems like it doesn't go on.Or Chick would have most believe it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Yes we all know Chick knows how much Illegal Drug use it takes to be an IFBB Pro.He just likes to talk it down just in case DEA are reading getbig as per usual.
The fact that a ro has to risk breaking the drug laws just to compete is wacky on so many levels to me.
1. Why does anyone care what some big musclehead puts in their body
2. Why does the bodybuilding fan base think that a 300 lb freak is better than a 220 lb freak with better lines?
Howard
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Each and everyday there are plenty of reasons for Law Suits against the IFBB.Most Pros don't want to rock the boat.Just think of how much illegal drug use goes on with Pros 6 weeks out from a show.FFS how many of these guys end up in hospital getting abscess cut from a bad shot. Fuk even Milos spent time dying from a bad Synthol shot but yet Nothing is done about it.Seems like it doesn't go on.Or Chick would have most believe it.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
THANK YOU!
The issue is tight thre in your post. It is not the issue of drugs used to get ready for a show, but the extreme amount and all the other wacky stuff they do.
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People Die and others Deal Drugs and Kill people and it all still just goes on.IFBB are not held accountable for anything Pros do. I think it's in their Rule Book somewhere that all Drug use by the individual is done at his or her own Risk.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm
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C'mon Chic, he actually says " I have that edge and that is why I am the best" at the end of the interview.
The edge he refered to was steroids which he said was part of bodybuilding.
This is pretty clear and I suspect you realize that.
Jay is a good guy and I admire him, I just think it was a mistake to be that candid in the current steroid witch hunts by congress.
I disagree...assuming everyone uses (which he alleges)...what "edge" would that be? Makes no sense...
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I disagree...assuming everyone uses (which he alleges)...what "edge" would that be? Makes no sense...
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good point!
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Stupid is as Stupid does. ::)
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
He said there are steroids in bodybuilding, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best. A lot of people would take that like he takes steroids. ;)
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He said there are steroids in bodybuilding, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best. A lot of people would take that like he takes steroids. ;)
Given your statement, he must be the only one who has access to them....
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Given your statement, he must be the only one who has access to them....
Well, ever since "operation raw deal" they are getting harding to find at a good price.
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Cuts doesn't take steroids?
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Cuts doesn't take steroids?
all muscletech
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CUTZ IS A NATURAL HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MUSCLETECH AS BEING HIS EDGE,,, DUUUHHHHHHH
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Most people seeing that clip would get the feeling that Cutler hinted to being on roids.
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WHY DOES IT BOTHER YOU PEOPLE SO MUCH IF THESE IFBB PROS USE STEROIDS. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS KIND OF BODYBUILDING STOP PAYING ATTENTION AND FIND A NEW HOBBY.
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WHY DOES IT BOTHER YOU PEOPLE SO MUCH IF THESE IFBB PROS USE STEROIDS. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS KIND OF BODYBUILDING STOP PAYING ATTENTION AND FIND A NEW HOBBY.
Go fuck yourself.
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WHY DOES IT BOTHER YOU PEOPLE SO MUCH IF THESE IFBB PROS USE STEROIDS. MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS KIND OF BODYBUILDING STOP PAYING ATTENTION AND FIND A NEW HOBBY.
hmmmm, I wonder which pro this gimmick belongs to....chick? ::)
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pics of GH and insulin right in is refridge in one of his vids...but they aren't illegal...welll Gh will be when congress get's it's dirty lil way..either way i don't see how the public would percieve he admitted to AAS us...
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Go fuck yourself.
:D ;D
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pics of GH and insulin right in is refridge in one of his vids...but they aren't illegal...welll Gh will be when congress get's it's dirty lil way..either way i don't see how the public would percieve he admitted to AAS us...
I'll play "chick's advocate":
"how can you prove that those drugs don't have a script, or how can you prove that they're Jay's at all?!"
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Chick also believes in 23.I heard that all IFBB Pros are NATURAL and I will never believe anything different Nor is there any bad corrupt judging or monies paid for Titles Esp World titles.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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pics of GH and insulin right in is refridge in one of his vids...but they aren't illegal...welll Gh will be when congress get's it's dirty lil way..either way i don't see how the public would percieve he admitted to AAS us...
you know,
the most alarming thing about Jay's picture of his stash...
is that there are six vials, and only two of them are identical, which shows just how many different compounds these guys take....given that all of his "SUPPS" don't need to be refrigerated :o :o :o
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I have the Edge baby "Livin The Dream"
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Given your statement, he must be the only one who has access to them....
Chick, you're a smart guy, but you are making a big mistake
by arguing this point. A skilled interviewer would take you apart
it the real world in a serious debate. I of course am not skilled in this
manner. I've trained at gold's in Venice for 15 years. You may be able to
string along some of these guys in Monroe Louisianna, but anyone that has gone
to the Mecca for any period of time, knows you are bullshiting.
Anyone have that picture of Jay reaching in his refrigerator for lana's egg whites, with
Jay's gear in the refrigerator door still?
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This has turned into a bullshit lawyer discussion. Loop holes in quotes and all that crap... I'm with a previous poster in this topic... does Cutler have to raise his right hand, left hand on a bible, and say that he uses steroids? Gimme a break. Bullshit lawyer arguement. This discussion is making you look greasy and slick, Bob. Probably would have been better not to chime in on this...
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Did Will Harris just state his "guns" were 25 inches?
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pics of GH and insulin right in is refridge in one of his vids...but they aren't illegal...welll Gh will be when congress get's it's dirty lil way..either way i don't see how the public would percieve he admitted to AAS us...
Thank you very much!
What you say to that chick?
Its vitamin b12?
Should we enlarge it?
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Anyone have that picture of Jay reaching in his refrigerator for lana's egg whites, with
Jay's gear in the refrigerator door still?
Do you read the thread before you post?
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The IFBB know that none of their BBs use Drugs hence they do Not conduct Drug tests on any IFBB Pros.Livin the Dream Baby.
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I miss some things sometimes when I get
really into a thread.
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Chick, you're a smart guy, but you are making a big mistake
by arguing this point. A skilled interviewer would take you apart
it the real world in a serious debate. I of course am not skilled in this
manner. I've trained at gold's in Venice for 15 years. You may be able to
string along some of these guys in Monroe Louisianna, but anyone that has gone
to the Mecca for any period of time, knows you are bullshiting.
Anyone have that picture of Jay reaching in his refrigerator for lana's egg whites, with
Jay's gear in the refrigerator door still?
Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
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Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
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Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
you'd think you'd know how to win one or two
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Even if we think we know he was talking about roids what Chick is trying to say was the comment was vague and wouldn't hold an once of water in the court of law, hence the actual words used could mean anything. Who the hell cares anyway this is how immature you all sound like a bunch of grade four's that just found out that there is no santa clause. :'(
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Dont count on it, bro...I'm a masteurdebater.
Fixed.
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Fixed.
Is that like a french masterbater?
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Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
After seeing 240 playing you for a fool for years, Debussey doubt that statement ;D
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Is that like a french masterbater?
http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Masturbator
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After seeing 240 playing you for a fool for years, Debussey doubt that statement ;D
LOL....right.
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LOL....right.
240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
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OK....still waiting.
Don't be so stupid chick you know he admitted it, he said there is drugs in body building of course he said no I don't see it as cheating Im looking for and edge and I have it thats why Im the best how much of a more obvious statement do you want?
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240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
240: "Chick"
Chick: "Squeek Squeek"
Genius......pure genius.
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Don't be so stupid chick you know he admitted it, he said there is drugs in body building of course he said no I don't see it as cheating Im looking for and edge and I have it thats why Im the best how much of a more obvious statement do you want?
So you're saying Jay believes that he has the edge because he takes steroids??
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Genius......pure genius.
Lol!!! ;D ;D
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Genius......pure genius.
This is Squeek:
(http://www.geocities.com/heartland/Trail/2248/Fosters/Squeek.jpg)
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So you're saying Jay believes that he has the edge because he takes steroids??
I didn't say it jay said it, you would have to take that up with jay.
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So you're saying Jay believes that he has the edge because he takes steroids??
Wow... You can not be serious. I actually think it is refreshing to see an air of honesty. I don't think Jay came off as being stupid or arrogant, but rather brutal honesty to justify the ends for his means.
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This is Squeek:
(http://www.geocities.com/heartland/Trail/2248/Fosters/Squeek.jpg)
Unbelievable....I didn't think you could outdo your last post and now this!!
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Unbelievable....I didn't think you could outdo your last post and now this!!
Yes.
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Nowhere in that clip does Jay admit to, talk about, or otherwise insinuate that he, himself, uses steroids....He talks basically in third person, and in general.
oh brother, come on chickster.. u're pushin it here.
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oh brother, come on chickster.. u're pushin it here.
Fagger in his element.
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Hi, I'm DickPussey, google me.
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My name is FaggerSpermerIeatShit.
Squeek. Squeek.
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DickPussey, I got both! More of the latter..
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"Perceived" is your key phrase there....
I don't have to deny anything...I'm going by what I heard..and that was Jay talking in a general sense, and in third person.
Believe whatever you want, I'm dealing with fact.
Chick is correct, however, you can see the years of steroid denial bleeding through in this post. I'm sure he's been asked this by regular people for years. Probably says, "It's just diet and genetics."
;) On a message board, everyone admits to gear use...in actual every day life, roid users are the most secretive people out there. They know by admitting that to a regular person, they'll associate them with being a drug abuser/cheater.
That's how it is.
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Go fuck yourself.
;D Classy! You my friend are pathetic.
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i am glad that Jay had the courage to be honest about roids and everyting else
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Jay's cockiness surprisingly isn't as repulsive as i thought it would be, weird. I guess I'd rather see him be confident and show some persoanlity, then be quite and boring. I think Jay overstated things in the "heat of the moment". I'm pretty sure he would consider synthol, implants, and things like that as cheating as would anyone with common sense.
The problem here is that people are taking his words too literally and putting them a bit beyond context. Keep in mind that he is addressing regular people, whose impression of steroids is not that of bodybuilding minded schmoes "fitness enthusiasts". In the course of trying to dumb it down for those that doesn't know anything about steroids, he overstates that "nothing in bb'ing is cheating", when what he is really trying to say is that "there is a level playing field as regards to steroids, and it is upto you how much you wanna push the limits".
@ chick: ::)
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Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
you wish. ::)
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At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use." Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids. I agree. However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much. If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C. Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C. He left that for us to say. We are able to extrapolate it. So technically we are saying it. I believe this is what's causing the confusion: If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it? If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion? Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up. Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true). Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it".
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At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use." Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids. I agree. However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much. If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C. Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C. He left that for us to say. We are able to extrapolate it. So technically we are saying it. I believe this is what's causing the confusion: If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it? If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion? Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up. Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true). Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it".
10 posts in 3 years!!! :o
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10 posts in 3 years!!! :o
larry's been busy sittin on the United States Supreme Court.
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who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either ;D
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who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either ;D
lol @ "isn't admitting". Looks familiar, but I cannot put a name to the face. Perhaps Lift or T knows.
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
Would he be Lying if he admitted it, Chick
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awesome post...very relevant.
Now please post the quote from the clip where he admits to it?
Come on Chick, you know better than that. We don't need no more Clarification from Cutler. This isn't news to some
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i agree. he may not have alot of personality but he does seem to sound somewhat intelligent..alot better than ronnie if you ask me
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It's Really Moronic for anybody to defend Steroids uses in Pro Bodybuilding. it's laughable beyond control that some in the "know it all area" would come on here to bullshit us....come the fck on.
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Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.
Chick - Don't even bother to look both ways when you cross the street. Cause there could be a Mac Truck comnig right at you and you wouldn't see it!
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Chick - Don't even bother to look both ways when you cross the street. Cause there could be a Mac Truck comnig right at you and you wouldn't see it!
Why chick continues to make an ass of himself is anyones guess.
There is a picture of jay reaching in the fridge with Hormones on the door.
Chicks reply: "We don't know if thats jays fridge"
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At risk of beating a very dead horse, the thread opened with the claim that "Cutler admitted steroid use." Chick responded that in fact he did not "say" he used steroids. I agree. However, although he didn't "say" he used steroids, it is very easy to extrapolate as much. If A=B (Cutler is part of the group) and B=C (the group uses steroids), then A=C. Now Chick is right, Cutler didn't say A=C. He left that for us to say. We are able to extrapolate it. So technically we are saying it. I believe this is what's causing the confusion: If he outlined the parts of the argument but never made the conclusion and left it for us to "say" the conclusion... Did he say it? If he said everything except for the conclusion is he in reality saying the conclusion? Most everyone is saying yes, since he basically set it up. Chick is saying on a sterile and technical and legal level, he didn't say "It". (which is true). Cutler seems to be suggesting it, but he didn't "Say it".
Thank you...glad there are a few that can see the forrest for the trees
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who's the chick at the end of the interview who isn't admitting steroid use either ;D
BUMP
She is hot. Who is it?
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If the jay says the edge=steroids, and jay says he has the edge.......
You're a moron if you can't figure it out.
Taking things literally all the time Chick?
I think not.
You cherry pick what you want to hear.
that is not healthy my friend.
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If the jay says the edge=steroids, and jay says he has the edge.......
You're a moron if you can't figure it out.
Taking things literally all the time Chick?
I think not.
You cherry pick what you want to hear.
that is not healthy my friend.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??
Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??
Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????
It sure does. I'm done with this converstion.
You're acting like a polotician.
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense....so Jay alledges that everyone does it, he does it, and he has the edge, thats why he's the best....??
Try and cherry pick common sense...if EVERYONE is doing the same thing...ow is that considered HAVING AN EDGE???????
Bob,
You might be better off not to address this topic. You lose credibility when you defend what Jay said. If Jay disagrees with people saying he admitted it, let Jay come on here and post. Or, jay can put out a statement. Or, Jay can ignore it.
You, defending Jay when, to most of us here, he just admitted using, well, it insults our intelligence.
Jay made a choice to sit in front of a camera and smirk about his 'edge', he obviously had his reasons.
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What sets apart Jay from the rest and gives him an "EDGE" is that not only does he use steroids year round, but he uses way more shit than conventional steroids in order to attain that "EDGE". Throw in your usual Test, Diuretics, but also add Insulin, GH and maybe a few more things we don't speak of too often..
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E-quipoise
D-bol
G-rowth
E-nthate
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E-quipoise
D-bol
G-rowth
E-nthate
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I don't usually agree with Chick, but I agree that Jay is doing a delicate tapdance around the truth and not admitting anything. I'd chalk that up to Jay's substantial experience answering that question and his fine-tuned, lawyerly response that makes no admission of illegal use but doesn't deny the implication. Such an answer allows him to be seen as truthful but intelligent. Savvy PR training at its best.
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I don't usually agree with Chick, but I agree that Jay is doing a delicate tapdance around the truth and not admitting anything. I'd chalk that up to Jay's substantial experience answering that question and his fine-tuned, lawyerly response that makes no admission of illegal use but doesn't deny the implication. Such an answer allows him to be seen as truthful but intelligent. Savvy PR training at its best.
Bingo.
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E-quipoise
D-bol
G-rowth
E-nthate
Bingo^2
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Bingo^2
Hypotheticaly, 240.....if Jay were taking those items listed, do you believe he has an "edge" over the competition?
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Who cares.
This is like Elton John admitting that he is gay ::)
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;D
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Hypotheticaly, 240.....if Jay were taking those items listed, do you believe he has an "edge" over the competition?
Yes. Not every IFBB pro uses steroids. If there is one Pelletier in the bunch who doesn't use steroids, then sure, he has an edge.
"There are steroids involved in the sport, obviously. You do what you do to be the best at what you do. You do what you do to win. You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge. And that's why I'm the best"
-Jay Cutler
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hahah, Pretty much. I train an hour a day, take lots of drugs, and have the genetics for it. ;D
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Arnold is so disgusted he just walks right off the stage lol....
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You can interpret, or surmise any way you wish...thats not the point. The point is, there is no admission of him (personally) using steroids. Whether or not we know he does, think he does, or believe he does is irrelevant to the discussion.
Hey chick, do you think Jay uses steriods?
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Arnold is so disgusted he just walks right off the stage lol....
he should've broken he mic over Dexter's bellowing cranium
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Yes. Not every IFBB pro uses steroids. If there is one Pelletier in the bunch who doesn't use steroids, then sure, he has an edge.
"There are steroids involved in the sport, obviously. You do what you do to be the best at what you do. You do what you do to win. You want to call that cheating, fine, but I have the edge. And that's why I'm the best"
-Jay Cutler
So, in your expert opinion....how many people that Jay competed against at this years Olympia, do you believe weren't using steroids?
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So, in your expert opinion....how many people that Jay competed against at this years Olympia, do you believe weren't using steroids?
zero!
What did I win?
p.s. good job basically saying that every bodybuilder in the Olympia is violating the rules ;D
...waits for posts to be deleted.
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zero!
What did I win?
p.s. good job basically saying that every bodybuilder in the Olympia is violating the rules ;D
...waits for posts to be deleted.
How am I "basically saying" anything? I'm ASKING a question...
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I applaud Jay for being as candid as he can given the nature of the question.
Did you all think he was going to break down his stack right on camera? :P
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So, in your expert opinion....how many people that Jay competed against at this years Olympia, do you believe weren't using steroids?
Bob,
Just because "everyone is doing it", doesn't make it right.
The right thing is the right thing, even if you're the only one doing it.
You're being condescending here, mocking my "expert" opinion as you put it.
But you are the one arguing from a morally bankrupt pulpit.
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For things like this, Jay can't win with the fans. If he denies using steroids, everyone would be screaming "What an F-ing liar!" If he flat out said, "Of course I use steroids!" he'd be called an idiot for admitting it. Just look at all the ninnies who think they've stumbled upon some sort of "secret confession" and won't stop yapping about it. I still don't get what the big deal is. Jay said the only possible thing that neither brought him any hardship nor required him to lie.
I'm yet to read anything that would have satisfied everyone any more than what he said.
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arnold got owned ;D
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For things like this, Jay can't win with the fans. If he denies using steroids, everyone would be screaming "What an F-ing liar!" If he flat out said, "Of course I use steroids!" he'd be called an idiot for admitting it. Just look at all the ninnies who think they've stumbled upon some sort of "secret confession" and won't stop yapping about it. I still don't get what the big deal is. Jay said the only possible thing that neither brought him any hardship nor required him to lie.
I'm yet to read anything that would have satisfied everyone any more than what he said.
I admire Jay for it.
I think people are upset because that one guy lost his contract for saying something pretty smiliar.
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For things like this, Jay can't win with the fans. If he denies using steroids, everyone would be screaming "What an F-ing liar!" If he flat out said, "Of course I use steroids!" he'd be called an idiot for admitting it. Just look at all the ninnies who think they've stumbled upon some sort of "secret confession" and won't stop yapping about it. I still don't get what the big deal is. Jay said the only possible thing that neither brought him any hardship nor required him to lie.
I'm yet to read anything that would have satisfied everyone any more than what he said.
Very well said.
When it comes to a pro and they're steroid use, its a lose-lose situation for them. As you said, admit and get hated on, deny and get hated on...
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Bob,
Just because "everyone is doing it", doesn't make it right.
The right thing is the right thing, even if you're the only one doing it.
You're being condescending here, mocking my "expert" opinion as you put it.
But you are the one arguing from a morally bankrupt pulpit.
I'm a little confused here...you answered that he does, indeed, have a "edge" because not everyone takes steroids...
Now you just said that "everyone is doing it"...
So, which one is it? You believe everyone is doing it, therefore making Cutlers claim of having an edge clearly not the case?
or
There are some not doing it??
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I'm a little confused here...you answered that he does, indeed, have a "edge" because not everyone takes steroids...
Now you just said that "everyone is doing it"...
So, which one is it? You believe everyone is doing it, therefore making Cutlers claim of having an edge clearly not the case?
or
There are some not doing it??
You're confusing the motto with the facts of this case.
Some IFBB pros use drugs, but some do not. If there is at least one who doesn't use, and Mr pelletier is here... then yes, guys who use drugs for the 'edge' are cheating.
I guess you feel it's okay. That's fine. In this case, why don't you step up right now and tell getbig that it's okay to use steroids, Bob?
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Very well said.
When it comes to a pro and they're steroid use, its a lose-lose situation for them. As you said, admit and get hated on, deny and get hated on...
I could care less that jay uses roids what I find stupid is chick sitting there saying that jay doesn't say that he uses roids . How stupid can you think people are? like that other guy said It's like elton john saying sure I like to take long hot sweaty showers with guys with my favourite dildo sure he didn't come out and say Im gay but clearly he likes parkin his rod in poo harbour, same shit jay clearly said he uses roids just cause its not that straight up dosen't mean thats not what's being said.
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You're confusing the motto with the facts of this case.
Some IFBB pros use drugs, but some do not. If there is at least one who doesn't use, and Mr pelletier is here... then yes, guys who use drugs for the 'edge' are cheating.
I guess you feel it's okay. That's fine. In this case, why don't you step up right now and tell getbig that it's okay to use steroids, Bob?
Why don't you just answer the question that was asked?
Do you believe anyone Cutler faced at the Olympia were taking steroids?
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Why don't you just answer the question that was asked?
Do you believe anyone Cutler faced at the Olympia were taking steroids?
Why don't you start answering some question with a straight answer chick instead of answering it with another question.
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Why don't you just answer the question that was asked?
Do you believe anyone Cutler faced at the Olympia were taking steroids?
I'm not an expert in these fields. You are. I defer to your knowledge in this area. I admit my ignorance.
How many were, and were not, taking steroids, in your estimation, Bob.
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Why don't you start answering some question with a straight answer chick instead of answering it with another question.
It was the original questin, Mr. Helper....try reading through the thread next time.
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240, I think Christian got shafted but what he said was much different than what Jay said.
Kinda like the difference between Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" and saying "Of course she blew me! I've been getting blowjobs from interns since I was 16!"
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I'm not an expert in these fields. You are. I defer to your knowledge in this area. I admit my ignorance.
How many were, and were not, taking steroids, in your estimation, Bob.
If you're ignorant to the area, why are you making statements you refuse to answer?
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If you're ignorant to the area, why are you making statements you refuse to answer?
second time you've answered a Q with a Q.
I admitted I was deferring to your expertise, and asked your opinion. You refused to answer.
At this point, you need to either answer, or admit you don't know.
Anything else, and everyone here will know you're just plain scared to answer the question.
Who uses drugs on the Olympia stage, Bob?
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I could care less that jay uses roids what I find stupid is chick sitting there saying that jay doesn't say that he uses roids . How stupid can you think people are? like that other guy said It's like elton john saying sure I like to take long hot sweaty showers with guys with my favourite dildo sure he didn't come out and say Im gay but clearly he likes parkin his rod in poo harbour, same shit jay clearly said he uses roids just cause its not that straight up dosen't mean thats not what's being said.
Chicks just being a bit pedantic, but he is right. Jay never said "i" take steroids, he was basically talking in 3rd person. We all know he does, but this whole thread started because the title says "Cutler admitting steroid usage", when in clip Jay never said "I take steroids". He admitted there are steroids in bb'ing, but never admitted to his own personal use. Thats what this thread is about.
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If you're ignorant to the area, why are you making statements you refuse to answer?
What a joke another question you answer with a question your really losing your standing here chick.
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Chicks just being a bit pedantic, but he is right. Jay never said "i" take steroids, he was basically talking in 3rd person. We all know he does, but this whole thread started because the title says "Cutler admitting steroid usage", when in clip Jay never said "I take steroids". He admitted there are steroids in bb'ing, but never admitted to his own personal use. Thats what this thread is about.
Yeah It wasn't and black and white but there is this thing called reading between the lines!
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Yeah It wasn't and black and white but there is this thing called reading between the lines!
So whats your point?
Did you want Jay to say "yeah im on test, slin, all the good stuff" ?
Read between the lines all you want, Jay never admitted to anything that could be incriminating to himself.
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second time you've answered a Q with a Q.
I admitted I was deferring to your expertise, and asked your opinion. You refused to answer.
At this point, you need to either answer, or admit you don't know.
Anything else, and everyone here will know you're just plain scared to answer the question.
Who uses drugs on the Olympia stage, Bob?
I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
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So whats your point?
Did you want Jay to say "yeah im on test, slin, all the good stuff" ?
Read between the lines all you want, Jay never admitted to anything that could be incriminating to himself.
I don't want jay to say shit Im just stating the friggin obvious just cause something isn't said in black and white clear in a clear cut way doesn't mean It's not being said, It's no big deal to me he is using and he doesn't have to admit it to make it freakin obvious anyway look at the guy thats your answer right there my point people coming in from the court of law point of view this isn't a court people aren't stupid for the most part and what he said clearly indicated he use's.
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
hahaha lucky for you, your not swearing on the bible in court ha chick!
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
lol
well played ;D
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hahaha lucky for you, your not swearing on the bible in court ha chick!
you can't be that dumb can you to see what bob is saying here??? :-\ Read it S-L-O-W-L-Y . No one takes drugs ON the Olympia stage. ;)
good one bob! ;D
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Will you say that NO ONE used steroids to PREPARE for the Olympia? ;)
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E-quipoise
D-bol
G-rowth
E-nthate
Is that your current stack? :-* you forgot the T3 epehedrine and clen... :P
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Thanks for the statement captin obvious
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Cool. You're athlete's rep. You seem to be really in touch with them.
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Hahahaha
I like what you did there Bob ;D
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newsflash,
chronic lying doesn't equal debating skills
Dont count on it, bro...I'm a master debater.
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wow, bob chick confused.. not hard to do apparently.
Jay Cutler admits he uses steroids. Now go back to denying your own illegal drug use.
I'm a little confused here...you answered that he does, indeed, have a "edge" because not everyone takes steroids...
Now you just said that "everyone is doing it"...
So, which one is it? You believe everyone is doing it, therefore making Cutlers claim of having an edge clearly not the case?
or
There are some not doing it??
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
BUT WE FUCKING KNOW THAT ALL TAKE MASSSSSIVE FUCKING AMOUNTS OF STEROIDS TO BE THERE; THAT WAS WHAT HE MEANT YOU DILDO; YOU QRE REALLY A DICK, CHICK...
EVEN YOU KNOW THAT ALL PROS TAKE STEROIDS; EVEN THAT FUCKER THAT ALWAYS IS LAST AT EVRY FUCKING SHOW, FUCKER :P
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you can't be that dumb can you to see what bob is saying here??? :-\ Read it S-L-O-W-L-Y . No one takes drugs ON the Olympia stage. ;)
good one bob! ;D
yeah, it's all done back stage
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Good to see Bob Chick knows the DEA are reading here.Nice try Bob but even the DEA know your a LIAR.Olympia competitors Not using Illegal Drugs is like saying DEA don't bust Drug Dealers.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm m.
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if cutler is using steroids how come he looks like a toddler next to markus ruhl ?
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Chick's posts just reinforce the fact that professional bodybuilding is not only a joke, but a quasi criminal activity.
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Chick, your credibility dives further south. You are a living lie. Sad life you live.
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Funny, my immediate reaction to Jay's edge comment was "What is that thing he has that he considers his edge?" Made me real curious what he has that he considers unique from all the othder bodybuilders. Could obviously be be refering to genetics. Maybe something more eeeeevillllll (Austin powers).
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Funny, my immediate reaction to Jay's edge comment was "What is that thing he has that he considers his edge?" Made me real curious what he has that he considers unique from all the othder bodybuilders. Could obviously be be refering to genetics. Maybe something more eeeeevillllll (Austin powers).
Jay's edge is that he does "feel sets" instead of warm-up sets like every other bodybuilder out there.
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Is that your current stack? :-* you forgot the T3 epehedrine and clen... :P
Hardly :-* And I didn't forget them...they just didn't work into the cryptogram. ;D
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Don't go to congress and say this crap, Bob, you'd be nailed..... ;D
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Bob, are you just plain delusional or are you being sarcastic?. If anybody wants to compete naturally, the IFBB is the wrong place to be. Why is the athlete Rep try to defend his athletes' steroid usage is beyond me. You used to compete, you, out of everybody else should know way better than that. This board is not that dumb, Bob
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Bob, are you just plain delusional or are you being sarcastic?. If anybody wants to compete naturally, the IFBB is the wrong place to be. Why is the athlete Rep try to defend his athletes' steroid usage is beyond me. You used to compete, you, out of everybody else should know way better than that. This board is not that dumb, Bob
Bob is willing to trade the emotional rush that comes from getting attention, for a bit of his credibility.
So be it.
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Chick is being literal as in no one has ever injected or sold on the stage itself the day of show LOL!!!!
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I agree with Chick that Jay does not admit it in the video; however, Jay does point blank admit to using steriods in his book. It's only mentioned one time but he does admit it (with no detail)
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
Yeah...this may be true. I guess don't ask don't tell. That makes it all ok. Despite the fact that you CAN NOT BE COMPETITIVE in the IFBB without using hormones. Basically you must break the law or obtain "substances" legally and illegally to be successful. There may be a few that have done otherwise, but please let's be honest!! How is this legitimate?
I will admit that all sports/professions have drugs. But at the end of the day, most could still survive without them, although they would not be as exciting.
Bob-Do you honestly feel that the IFBB would survive if you took PED's out of the picture entirely?
If you think so,then when was the last time a "Tested Natural Bodybuilder" was involved with a major supplement company or muscle mag? i.e. Muscletech, BSN, etc....
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I'm still trying to figure out who the "Chick" is in the video.
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arnold got owned ;D
Impossible! Arnold cannot be owned
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Chick knows what he said is True No BB has injected or sold Drugs on the Olympia Stage but can he say the same for their Homes or the Gym or the Street.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .Go on Chick make that statement.Climb down from that Olympia stage that you have Not been on and make the same claim.But remember the DEA are reading what the IFBB Pro rep has to say. ::)
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I'm glad he at the very least not denying it. Besides, no one cares if you get $500 worth every 2-3 months like Jay MIGHT do. hahahaha :P
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Here's a fresh look at it...
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why was it edited out? the scene where he admits usage has been shitcanned from the documentary. so what's all the drama for?
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I will go on record right here and now and say that NO ONE uses steroids on the Olympia stage, and I've never known anyone to use,administer, distribute, take, etc steroids on the Olympia stage.
I agree Bob. I know of NO ONE on the Olympia stage that has actually ever pulled out a syringe and vial of test and just started to shoot up their ass while posing on stage. Can you imagine if all top 12 guys on the olympia stage were to show up on stage with nothing but trunks and a fanny pack on and midway through their posing routine, just dropped it and pulled out their syringes and pushed 10cc's of test up their asses. That would be something.
I also agree on the fact that I've never seen anyone, while on that stage, using, administering or distributing steroids.
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Here's a fresh look at it...
one of your better videos ;)
but it could've used one of those pop-up ugly faces at the end though, to wake you up
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I think Jay's only 23 in those photos...
and he already looked better than 99% of people out there :o
Something to consider before yelling ALL DRUGS
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jay looks fuckin SICK in that yellow tank... DAMN... he's 23 in that ? hell i got four years ... maybe my genetics arent so shitty... ahhh fuck it who knows
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I think Jay's only 23 in those photos...
and he already looked better than 99% of people out there :o
Something to consider before yelling ALL DRUGS
Dude i am a huge cutler fan, but cutler has been on the sauce since he was 18
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by this age jason was already very deep in aas ,,he was a a competetive bodybuilder which is a polished and promising gym rat physiqe with potential ,,he did fulfill it ,,but have no doubt ,,,the guy is already beenmany years on hormones when those pictures were taken,,,this is constant use of hormones ,,infacrt hardly off,,maybe 6 weeks off then back on ,,,the problem is in the competietive level of natiuonals when you want professional card you hardly go off
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Im straight but i have no problem admitting it, at 23 Jay was one good looking mofo. Could have gotten a lot of pussy.....if he wasn't with Kerry ;D
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I actually think Cutler's giving a pretty bright answer to that question. Vague enough for most dummies to be confused though crystal clear to the ones who know what he's talking about. Does anyb ody here really doubt for a second that Cutler is not natural? I hope not. Does anyone here thinks that Cutler is more succesful than other Bbers only because of his use of AAS? I hope not either.
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Hypotheticaly, 240.....if Jay were taking those items listed, do you believe he has an "edge" over the competition?
No..as everyones taking the same shit..Jay is the best cos muscletech brought him the O ;D
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E-quipoise
D-bol
G-rowth
E-nthate
;D
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jay looks fuckin SICK in that yellow tank... DAMN... he's 23 in that ? hell i got four years ... maybe my genetics arent so shitty... ahhh fuck it who knows
haha good luck.
jay at 24
another rare clip i found 2002 or something
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you guys are still arguing about this?!?!?!??!
(lol 10 pages later)
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me thinks edge in this context = genetics.
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me thinks edge in this context = genetics.
why
maybe he means the edge is that he works harder than everyone else and does everything smarter.
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why
maybe he means the edge is that he works harder than everyone else and does everything smarter.
Yep, exactly.
He says that steroids are "obviously" part of pro bodybuilding but more importantly that he does/has something more than the other guys and that's why he's the best.
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you guys are still arguing about this?!?!?!??!
No argument. This settles it...
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No argument. This settles it...
jesus dude! (did you put that together?)
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jesus dude! (did you put that together?)
i love how he reads the text in the video at like 3 words per minute, as if a retarded blind man is watching it
everyone knows the ifbb's "drug testing policy" is a joke and is just written up as a formality so they don't look like they are opposing anti-doping efforts. otherwise they would really look like the bad guys
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Who woulda thunk it.
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Wasn't there a pic of him with his fridge open with his little vials in the door?
And didn't someone die after that movie came out?
and, and, and, and....
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The DEA FDA and almost everyone Don't care about BBs and their Illegal Drug use just ask Chick.
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Sadly Jay looked better at 23 then he does now... :(
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Sadly Jay looked better at 23 then he does now... :(
Who didn't?
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jesus dude! (did you put that together?)
looks like a sad case, isn't he?
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Christian Boeving summed it up pretty nicely. Unfortunately he paid a price for that confession
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Agreed, not a big deal....still waiting for the admission. If thats the exact quote, and there is nothing else said....I still don't see it.
He didn't outright admit it, he just implied it in a "ain't in obvious" way.
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There is denying that, show me where he admits to taking steriods?
There's nothing to deny. "Extra edge" just means anything from eating certain foods, to killing your opponents with a machette. So whatever board goons wanna make of his open ended statement is both unavoidable and totally worthless.
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Nowhere in that clip does Jay admit to, talk about, or otherwise insinuate that he, himself, uses steroids....He talks basically in third person, and in general.
Dude what the f@#$! Its no secret that EVERY BODYBUILDER uses steroids its time to get real and admit it. I realize its illegal but saying you dont use roids is living a lie. If you tell us you dont use steroids then we dont believe you. So tell me why we should believe you when you tell us you dont do gay for pay and you dont have a hair peice?
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/21ez4t0.jpg)
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No argument. This settles it...
No way in hell jay talks that clear he sounds like a monotomes tong swollen cow
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hes offseason there and supporting his mom
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Jay is honest here, candid and comes off as a class act , no question. However, I fear that his candid momment may come back to bite him on the butt by the witchhunters . Sad but true
Well he never said he took them himself - all he says is that he knows that there are Steroids in bodybuilding.
So it isn't that dumb - and looking for the edge and doing what ever he needs to do is not actual discriminting evidence that he
took steroids himself.
:D