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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
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So what? 100 dollar is like 12,5 euros these days
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So what? 100 dollar is like 12,5 euros these days
Yes, okay 'el guapo'...I am sure this never happens in whatever shithole country you 'reside' in
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
Sucks man.
What state are you in?
In Florida, he would have gotten a parting shot from about 80% of the population.
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What state are you in?
I guess he is in a state of fear. ::)
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Sucks man.
What state are you in?
In Florida, he would have gotten a parting shot from about 80% of the population.
you and your family must feel very safe
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Yes, okay 'el guapo'...I am sure this never happens in whatever shithole country you 'reside' in
huh did that happen in branford Mike??
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Sucks man.
What state are you in?
In Florida, he would have gotten a parting shot from about 80% of the population.
hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little guy.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
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But more important, was he black?
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you and your family must feel very safe
well, I live in North Haven...ranked in top 50 places to live in US...this happened in hamden, where my practice
safety...never really thought aboutit
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huh did that happen in branford Mike??
Hamden, dude
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hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
yeah but if you shot that little bastard you'd be locked up in a second------CT is shitty like that-------we're no Texas :-\
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But more important, was he black?
since you asked, yes
he was black
lean
and fast
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Hamden, dude
huh---was it near dixwell??----that area is shitty over there------I used to live on Vantage st. off dixwell near the Acropolis diner over there-------nice house I was renting, I just didnt like being that close to dixwell avenue
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yeah but if you shot that little bastard you'd be locked up in a second------CT is shitty like that-------we're no Texas :-\
well, if the headline read:
"Hamden doctor, fresh out of surgery, robbed of money by thug outside bank..."
They may go easier on me
its all about lawyers and working the courts and winning the people
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huh---was it near dixwell??----that area is shitty over there------I used to live on Vantage st. off dixwell near the Acropolis diner over there-------nice house I was renting, I just didnt like being that close to dixwell avenue
no..upscale area near my practice on Whitney avenue...I know where you are talking tho...bad area
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well, if the headline read:
"Hamden doctor, fresh out of surgery, robbed of money by thug outside bank..."
They may go easier on me
its all about lawyers and working the courts and winning the people
yeah but the black community is real up in arms about white people shooting kids in the back----especially after the whole Malik Jones thing
dont get me wrong I would have shook your hand and called you a hero if you blasted the little scumbag in the back
that shit is the reason I have my pistol license
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I guess he is in a state of fear. ::)
no
remember
I am the naive one
who thinks everything is great in America
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yeah but the black community is real up in arms about white people shooting kids in the back----especially after the whole Malik Jones thing
dont get me wrong I would have shook your hand and called you a hero if you blasted the little scumbag in the back
that shit is the reason I have my pistol license
That poor little negro probably starved to death and you want to shoot him in the back? Class act "nordic ""beast"" " ::) ::)
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no..upscale area near my practice on Whitney avenue...I know where you are talking tho...bad area
no shit------Ill have to stop by one day to your practice----I do a lot of work in the hamden area...maybe we could work something out----you refer me some clients for my tree business, Ill get you some clients for you to crack and snap ;D
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yeah but the black community is real up in arms about white people shooting kids in the back----especially after the whole Malik Jones thing
dont get me wrong I would have shook your hand and called you a hero if you blasted the little scumbag in the back
that shit is the reason I have my pistol license
NB...I don't know if it is anger right now...but I should get a gun
And, if I was not so shocked and had a gun
I would have shot that fucking guy
let the black 'community' come down on my, as it fits their convenience
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yeah but if you shot that little bastard you'd be locked up in a second------CT is shitty like that-------we're no Texas :-\
In Texas in a situation like that the cops would be more likely to be critiquing your marksmanship while the bleeding POS was on the ground than questioning you. ;D
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That poor little negro probably starved to death and you want to shoot him in the back? Class act "nordic ""beast"" " ::) ::)
he is starving bc of his OWN lack
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That poor little negro probably starved to death and you want to shoot him in the back? Class act "nordic ""beast"" " ::) ::)
believe me--with all the welfare and free shit they con out of the system---they aren't starving
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In Texas in a situation like that the cops would be more likely to be critiquing your marksmanship while the bleeding POS was on the ground than questioning you. ;D
I now APPLAUD that guy who shot those two 'citizens' robbing his neighbors house
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believe me--with all the welfare and free shit they con out of the system---they aren't starving
I have had several 'reverends' who are the biggest scammers of the system as patients
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In Florida, he would have gotten a parting shot from about 80% of the population.
WTF 240 are you actually celebrating this 'fact' ??? ??? ???
pistols are accurate as far as you can throw them; at STATIONARY TARGETS. good recipe for mishots, ricochets and crossfire ::)
a bunch of witless trigger happy IDIOTS is the best reason I can imagine for HAVING gun control
unbelievable . . .
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So that gives him the right to steal someone else's food money? Maybe Moosejay was hungry too.
don't fuck with my food or my sleep
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So that gives him the right to steal someone else's food money? Maybe Moosejay was hungry too.
sure moose "16,5% bf" jay must have been starving to death ::)
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WTF 240 are you actually celebrating this 'fact' ??? ??? ???
pistols are accurate as far as you can throw them; at STATIONARY TARGETS. good recipe for mishots, ricochets and crossfire ::)
a bunch of witless trigger happy IDIOTS is the best reason I can imagine for HAVING gun control
unbelievable . . .
have you ever shot a gun ???
you are a retard
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hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
It would have been nice to gun down the prick, but if you kill him by shooting him in the back while he’s running away, you can’t claim self defense and you’ll go to jail.
If you just shoot and injure any part of his body, he’ll sue you, get the rest of your money, and you’ll go to jail.
Criminals have more rights than victims now.
Always put your money away somewhere secure before even leaving the teller’s window.
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have you ever shot a gun ???
you are a retard
I'm in the army and going overseas in September - I've shot more rounds on more weapon systems than I can count
nice try though ;)
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Criminals have more rights than victims now.
Only if you live in a "blue state" and vote Democrat.
Obama probably wants to legalize street robbery (but only if you're Black).
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
you fail at being a man !!!
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hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
Calm down bro,
you can get yourself into ahuge
frenzy, How you were violated,
you could kick that degenerates ass if youre
arm isn't fucked up.
Just calm down, don't let it get you too down,
or you'll end up fighting with people that don't really
deserve it.
I know exactly how you feel.
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I'm in the army and going overseas in September - I've shot more rounds on more weapon systems than I can count
nice try though ;)
I think he was talking to 240 ::)
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Only if you live in a "blue state" and vote Democrat.
I do, and I don't.
Am I still fvcked?
:)
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Only if you live in a "blue state" and vote Democrat.
Obama probably wants to legalize street robbery (but only if you're Black).
and McCain wants to increase military spending because we can win the war in Iraq so that the white people at Halliburton can get a pay raise.
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I think he was talking to 240 ::)
no I was talking to the douche big poppa J
a hand gun is as accurate as you are with it------does it take lots and lots of practice...yes-----but to say a hand gun is useless is a retarded statement
what should people carry around AR-15's for self-protection while they're doing their business around a suburb :-\ ???
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In Texas in a situation like that the cops would be more likely to be critiquing your marksmanship while the bleeding POS was on the ground than questioning you. ;D
LMAO... it's true. In Florida, after my brother shot a guy who tried to rob his pharmacy, the cops were laughing at what appeared to be blood and possibly feces/some kind of gut content on the sidewalk that the wounded man trailed as he got into the getaway car.
Moosey, I'm sure you know now.. but ideally...
You put the $ directly into your front pocket.
You have your glock up front, either in a fanny or preferably inside waist band front.
You catch eye contact with everyone you can. You watch their hips, eyes, and hands. Eyes lie, hands can give them away, but hips are the telltale sign what they intend to do. Any deviation from standard hip motion and you know this person is someone to watch.
If someone comes at you for money, you raise the left hand, create space in a backwards/angled direction, while drawing your weapon. You are FVCKING LOUD. You give him the loudest "No Motherfvcker!" you can in your sternest cop voice - it might hesitate him for a second, and it'll certainly alert witnesses and heroes alike. You make it very clear to the 8 people now watching that you retreated and issued a warning and tried to defend with your hand, and then you did indeed use deadly force on the guy who was committing a forcible felony on you.
Once he has your cash, nah, you can't shoot him. You can catch him and politely ask for you $ back.
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McCain gave a speach at a Michigan auto plant that is schedule to be closed..his speach was on the expanding the free trade agreements.
no one cheered
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LMAO... it's true. In Florida, after my brother shot a guy who tried to rob his pharmacy, the cops were laughing at what appeared to be blood and possibly feces/some kind of gut content on the sidewalk that the wounded man trailed as he got into the getaway car.
Moosey, I'm sure you know now.. but ideally...
You put the $ directly into your front pocket.
You have your glock up front, either in a fanny or preferably inside waist band front.
You catch eye contact with everyone you can. You watch their hips, eyes, and hands. Eyes lie, hands can give them away, but hips are the telltale sign what they intend to do. Any deviation from standard hip motion and you know this person is someone to watch.
If someone comes at you for money, you raise the left hand, create space in a backwards/angled direction, while drawing your weapon. You are FVCKING LOUD. You give him the loudest "No Motherfvcker!" you can in your sternest cop voice - it might hesitate him for a second, and it'll certainly alert witnesses and heroes alike. You make it very clear to the 8 people now watching that you retreated and issued a warning and tried to defend with your hand, and then you did indeed use deadly force on the guy who was committing a forcible felony on you.
Once he has your cash, nah, you can't shoot him. You can catch him and politely ask for you $ back.
I guess that guy didn't get on board the "Moosegay train"
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McCain gave a speach at a Michigan auto plant that is schedule to be closed..his speach was on the expanding the free trade agreements.
no one cheered
McCain will ruin our economy------we'll go through another depression
you think crime is bad now----just wait until gas is $6 a gallon and the unemployment rate is 3 times higher----than you'll see real crime :-\
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Did you get a good look at him Moosey? Did he look anything like the guy on the left?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222080.0;attach=260003;image)
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LMAO... it's true. In Florida, after my brother shot a guy who tried to rob his pharmacy, the cops were laughing at what appeared to be blood and possibly feces/some kind of gut content on the sidewalk that the wounded man trailed as he got into the getaway car.
Moosey, I'm sure you know now.. but ideally...
You put the $ directly into your front pocket.
You have your glock up front, either in a fanny or preferably inside waist band front.
You catch eye contact with everyone you can. You watch their hips, eyes, and hands. Eyes lie, hands can give them away, but hips are the telltale sign what they intend to do. Any deviation from standard hip motion and you know this person is someone to watch.
If someone comes at you for money, you raise the left hand, create space in a backwards/angled direction, while drawing your weapon. You are FVCKING LOUD. You give him the loudest "No Motherfvcker!" you can in your sternest cop voice - it might hesitate him for a second, and it'll certainly alert witnesses and heroes alike. You make it very clear to the 8 people now watching that you retreated and issued a warning and tried to defend with your hand, and then you did indeed use deadly force on the guy who was committing a forcible felony on you.
Once he has your cash, nah, you can't shoot him. You can catch him and politely ask for you $ back.
oh brother did you learn this from a espn
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McCain will ruin our economy------we'll go through another depression
you think crime is bad now----just wait until gas is $6 a gallon and the unemployment rate is 3 times higher----than you'll see real crime :-\
in SW Florida...
25% of our construction workforce is out of work thanks to the housing crisis.
Tourism industry is down 1/3 already
Schools all cut budgets by 10% of more.
You have roofers, teachers, and bar owners who can't pay rent and can't afford food. I live in a nice area- $300k houses (which in FL is 3000 sq foot with a pool) - and 1/3 of the homes on my street are now bank-owned. Tall, overgrown grass... bank locks on doors... and soon they'll start to be auctioned off or rented to any bum who can come up with 800 or 900 a month. Thank God I'm renting. This whole region is depressed. And it's only getting worse.
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no I was talking to the douche big poppa J
a hand gun is as accurate as you are with it------does it take lots and lots of practice...yes-----but to say a hand gun is useless is a retarded statement
what should people carry around AR-15's for self-protection while they're doing their business around a suburb :-\ ???
my point is that letting everyone just walk around with a pistol is foolish ESPECIALLY given the situation 240 gave
it does require a great deal of practise to become proficient with a sidearm and that's under a controlled situation (ie a range); in the heat of the moment I'd be surprised if your average person would be calm and collected enough to adhere the maksmanship principles and deliver well aimed shots. that just doesn't happen
and I meant the throwing bit literally
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Did you get a good look at him Moosey? Did he look anything like the guy on the left?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222080.0;attach=260003;image)
Guns are useless against ninjas.
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in SW Florida...
25% of our construction workforce is out of work thanks to the housing crisis.
Tourism industry is down 1/3 already
Schools all cut budgets by 10% of more.
You have roofers, teachers, and bar owners who can't pay rent and can't afford food. I live in a nice area- $300k houses (which in FL is 3000 sq foot with a pool) - and 1/3 of the homes on my street are now bank-owned. Tall, overgrown grass... bank locks on doors... and soon they'll start to be auctioned off or rented to any bum who can come up with 800 or 900 a month. Thank God I'm renting. This whole region is depressed. And it's only getting worse.
its a sad reality---
did you hear the senator who called Americans "whiners" and said the poor economy is just in people's heads---------he is actually one of McCain's boys
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand (STUPID STUPID STUPID...NOT IN 2008 DOES ANYONE DO THAT)
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand... (UM HMM)
I couldn't run after him, obviously ( YOU SAID YOU HAD SURGERY ON YOUR ARM...NOT YOUR LEGS)...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot (AS OPPOSED TO RUNNING ON HIS HANDS), still at large in suburb here (HOW DO YOU KNOW?).
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
TRANSLATION... Went to pay a prostitute for some SEX...she took MJs MONEY and said to meet her at the Excelsior hotel room 5S...when MJ arrived there was no prostitute, no SEX and he was conned out of 100 DOLLARS...DAMN THAT SLUT!!!...Now back on the GB BOARDS MJ has to concoct a story to get sympathy from other GBs while he licks his wounds.
Don't worry MJ the chick is at the corner of Pussy Street and Galore Avenue...you can catch her later and either get your money or the needed sex...GEEEZ WHAT NEXT???
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I guess he is in a state of fear. ::)
Lmao ;D
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its a sad reality---
did you hear the senator who called Americans "whiners" and said the poor economy is just in people's heads---------he is actually one of McCain's boys
a big part of the economic status in america does in fact stem from the thoughts and actions of the american people.
not saying the government doesnt have an influence. it does.
but you cant discount the american people in this either.
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oh brother did you learn this from a espn
Nah, my brother and I train using police technique videos. Some very good stuff. If you're ever in a spot where someone starts shooting - even if you're unarmed - use your left hand cupped over your face and forearm over your heart internals. Just that quick arm raise beings your chances of being fatally hit down significantly.
With the right hand, you either pull your own piece, pick up something to throw, or push open an exit door.
The reverse/angled exit makes it tougher for the guy to hit you - a moving erratic target, and he's crossing his own body to fire reduces chance you'll be hit.
The hips, well, that is obvious. when he's shooting, you reverse to avoid the hips as well. if his hips are square with yours, you will likely be hit. If they're not, it's likely you don't get hit. Hips mean everything.
You can shit all over this, but I'm sure that bench or some of our other LEO types here will tell you it's better than standing there pissing yourself scared.
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well, I live in North Haven...ranked in top 50 places to live in US...this happened in hamden, where my practice
safety...never really thought aboutit
I used in Go to some school on the Haven and hamden line...Stuff like this can happen anywhere..
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its a sad reality---
did you hear the senator who called Americans "whiners" and said the poor economy is just in people's heads---------he is actually one of McCain's boys
Yeah, it's phil gramm, who is running mccain's whole campaign too.
That comment will come back to bite him. The recession is VERY real.
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
are you so desperate for attention on here
that you have to make up a robbery
you fucking suck ass dude
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
You need a Bad Ass Muthafuker wallet.
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TRANSLATION... Went to pay a prostitute for some SEX...she took MJs MONEY and said to meet her at the Excelsior hotel room 5S...when MJ arrived there was no prostitute, no SEX and he was conned out of 100 DOLLARS...DAMN THAT SLUT!!!...Now back on the GB BOARDS MJ has to concoct a story to get sympathy from other GBs while he licks his wounds.
Don't worry MJ the chick is at the corner of Pussy Street and Galore Avenue...you can catch her later and either get your money or the needed sex...GEEEZ WHAT NEXT???
Are you saying without pics Moosejay's claims don't hold up on getbig..
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HAHAHAH "MooseJay", you are honestly pathetic. It looks like all that hard work in the gym, all 150 pounds of it, didn't do anything to scare away a little 15 year old wanna be gangster. MooseJay spent 30 years working out only never to break the 150 pound mark. The guy can't catch a break.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMM
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HAHAHAHAHA ;D
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It would have been nice to gun down the prick, but if you kill him by shooting him in the back while he’s running away, you can’t claim self defense and you’ll go to jail.
If you just shoot and injure any part of his body, he’ll sue you, get the rest of your money, and you’ll go to jail.
Criminals have more rights than victims now.
Always put your money away somewhere secure before even leaving the teller’s window.
Like I said:
Whomever can secure the service of the best attorneys.
He cannot.
I can.
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Only if you live in a "blue state" and vote Democrat.
Obama probably wants to legalize street robbery (but only if you're Black).
Fucking weak-sperm democrats
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Calm down bro,
you can get yourself into ahuge
frenzy, How you were violated,
you could kick that degenerates ass if youre
arm isn't fucked up.
Just calm down, don't let it get you too down,
or you'll end up fighting with people that don't really
deserve it.
I know exactly how you feel.
You are correct
not much I can do now
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LMAO... it's true. In Florida, after my brother shot a guy who tried to rob his pharmacy, the cops were laughing at what appeared to be blood and possibly feces/some kind of gut content on the sidewalk that the wounded man trailed as he got into the getaway car.
Moosey, I'm sure you know now.. but ideally...
You put the $ directly into your front pocket.
You have your glock up front, either in a fanny or preferably inside waist band front.
You catch eye contact with everyone you can. You watch their hips, eyes, and hands. Eyes lie, hands can give them away, but hips are the telltale sign what they intend to do. Any deviation from standard hip motion and you know this person is someone to watch.
If someone comes at you for money, you raise the left hand, create space in a backwards/angled direction, while drawing your weapon. You are FVCKING LOUD. You give him the loudest "No Motherfvcker!" you can in your sternest cop voice - it might hesitate him for a second, and it'll certainly alert witnesses and heroes alike. You make it very clear to the 8 people now watching that you retreated and issued a warning and tried to defend with your hand, and then you did indeed use deadly force on the guy who was committing a forcible felony on you.
Once he has your cash, nah, you can't shoot him. You can catch him and politely ask for you $ back.
I have been told by a few cops that they never yell:
"Stop or I will shoot..."
As they never stop at this.
They yell:
"Your dead, guy..."
This seems to work
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Did you get a good look at him Moosey? Did he look anything like the guy on the left?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222080.0;attach=260003;image)
No
Froim what I understand, Flex is a big-time businessman now
No need to perpetrate
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its a sad reality---
did you hear the senator who called Americans "whiners" and said the poor economy is just in people's heads---------he is actually one of McCain's boys
I am not so quick to disagree with that
"harden the fuck up"
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You are correct
not much I can do now
Who has to go inside a bank these days to withdraw $100 dollars. MooseJay, I know you love to spam your 1960's pictures, but get with it. It's called an ATM card. Use it. You could of driven through a drive in teller, but your to stupid and ignorant.
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TRANSLATION... Went to pay a prostitute for some SEX...she took MJs MONEY and said to meet her at the Excelsior hotel room 5S...when MJ arrived there was no prostitute, no SEX and he was conned out of 100 DOLLARS...DAMN THAT SLUT!!!...Now back on the GB BOARDS MJ has to concoct a story to get sympathy from other GBs while he licks his wounds.
Don't worry MJ the chick is at the corner of Pussy Street and Galore Avenue...you can catch her later and either get your money or the needed sex...GEEEZ WHAT NEXT???
No...I never travel, they come to me.
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a big part of the economic status in america does in fact stem from the thoughts and actions of the american people.
not saying the government doesnt have an influence. it does.
but you cant discount the american people in this either.
thank you, absolutely
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Who has to go inside a bank these days to withdraw $100 dollars. MooseJay, I know you love to spam your 1960's pictures, but get with it. It's called an ATM card. Use it. You could of driven through a drive in teller, but your to stupid and ignorant.
Maybe he closed his account and they gave him his entire savings.
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I used in Go to some school on the Haven and hamden line...Stuff like this can happen anywhere..
especially there
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Who has to go inside a bank these days to withdraw $100 dollars. MooseJay, I know you love to spam your 1960's pictures, but get with it. It's called an ATM card. Use it. You could of driven through a drive in teller, but your to stupid and ignorant.
Most people do "get with it", as you say. To deep debt.
Not me. NO debt.
I have not had an ATM card for nearly 15 years.
No fees for me.
Its because of this type of savvy that I can retire at anytime, and I don't really feel the 'recession'
Choices.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222080.0;attach=260003;image)
Is that Elaine Goodlad or a random chick?
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Is that Elaine Goodlad or a random chick?
Please with the 'gang sign'...ironic that this thread is about crime and this little fuck is perpetuating it
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mj is a doctor? in what?
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I bet the worst part was having to go back into the bank and ask for another $100.
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mj is a doctor? in what?
He's a doctor of Backdownery.
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oh, lol. I like chiros tho.
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oh, lol. I like chiros tho.
Smart man. Everyone and everything has value.
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Maybe he closed his account and they gave him his entire savings.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA A ;D ;D ;D
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Most people do "get with it", as you say. To deep debt.
Not me. NO debt.
I have not had an ATM card for nearly 15 years.
No fees for me.
Its because of this type of savvy that I can retire at anytime, and I don't really feel the 'recession'
Choices.
It's not necessarily about you feeling the recession. It's about other people feeling it & passing it on to the rest of the community.
Similar to what happened outside at the bank today.
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It's not necessarily about you feeling the recession. It's about other people feeling it & passing it on to the rest of the community.
Similar to what happened outside at the bank today.
Again, it is all about you being a product of your personal actions.
Choices.
Some are up, some are down.
People love to scream, "Why me?"
we never hear
"Why not me?"
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hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
If anger is what is making you change your mind about wanting to protect yourself then maybe you should think even harder about carrying a weapon.
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since you asked, yes
he was black
lean
and fast
Why am I not surprised
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
Rule Number that I was taught by my dad 1: Never walk out of a building w/Cash in your hand or out of your wallet. Your just asking for them to take it. Take the time to put in the wallet.
Your like the people file charges or go to the police, because someone stole something out of their locker at the gym, yet they never put a lock on it. Common sense is worth your Hundred dollars, No?
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disgusted is right, moose
ur angry and confused
ur judgement altered heavily becuz of this minor feat
why did he rob you? he was encouraged by the sight of a potential weak victim
carrying a gun will not prevent further similarities to happen
take distance from your fears
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Moose, you will recover.
Move to a gun friendly state.
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Again, it is all about you being a product of your personal actions.
Choices.
Some are up, some are down.
People love to scream, "Why me?"
we never hear
"Why not me?"
If only you had thought to quote simplistic platitudes at the robber.
You're missing the point like you're missing your money.
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just track the kid down and slice off his hands like other countries do.
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Moosejay, if you got a good look at the kid and can recognize him you should go to the crap (black) part of town where that kid likely lives and look around for him. These guys don't hang out inside their houses like rich white guys like you. They hang out on the streets, especially if they are buying or selling crack. I doubt he will be hard to find.
After you find him you can call the police, beg for him to give your money back, or use vigilante justice.
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Sorry to hear you were another victim of a Predatory savage that has become an epidemic in our once great country. In west palm , Florida, it's getting worse and worse. Luckily I don't have to live amongst these types, but there's always a risk if you have to drive downtown through certain neighborhoods. I've had a gun for years and believe me, if my life is on the line, I would not hesitate executing one of these vicious primates...even if I had to deal with the obligatory Sharpton/Jackson outrage.
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Moosejay, if you got a good look at the kid and can recognize him you should go to the crap (black) part of town where that kid likely lives and look around for him. These guys don't hang out inside their houses like rich white guys like you. They hang out on the streets, especially if they are buying or selling crack. I doubt he will be hard to find.
After you find him you can call the police, beg for him to give your money back, or use vigilante justice.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAH!
TOO MANY CSI EPISODES....
MJ DIDN'T SAY THE GUY WAS BLACK....BUT ALL OF THIS ACCORDING TO HIM HAPPENED IN A BLINK OF AN EYE...SOOOOO DOES HE KNOW WHAT THE GUY LOOKS LIKE????
LIKE THE JOKE I HEARD...
A WHITE MAN GETS ROBBED BY ANOTHER WHITE MAN WHO IS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR..HE HEADS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DESCRIBES THE ASSAILANT AS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR WHO ROBBED HIM. THE WHITE COP DRAWS A PICTURE OF A BLACK MAN AND THE GUY REPLIES THAT'S HIM!!!!!......
YOUR MONEY IS GONE TO THE PROSTITUTE...GET OVER IT AND POST SOME BB STUFF...LIFE GOES ON.
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just track the kid down and slice off his hands like other countries do.
yeah, who was it? that teenage trade you're paying for the summer and you skipped a pymt?
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It sounds bad but think it could of been worse.
He could of hit you or stabbed you then in your confussion
stole your wallet and jewlery.
Dont feel bad, You can't catch a crackhead
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
TOO MANY CSI EPISODES....
MJ DIDN'T SAY THE GUY WAS BLACK....BUT ALL OF THIS ACCORDING TO HIM HAPPENED IN A BLINK OF AN EYE...SOOOOO DOES HE KNOW WHAT THE GUY LOOKS LIKE????
LIKE THE JOKE I HEARD...
A WHITE MAN GETS ROBBED BY ANOTHER WHITE MAN WHO IS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR..HE HEADS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DESCRIBES THE ASSAILANT AS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR WHO ROBBED HIM. THE WHITE COP DRAWS A PICTURE OF A BLACK MAN AND THE GUY REPLIES THAT'S HIM!!!!!......
YOUR MONEY IS GONE TO THE PROSTITUTE...GET OVER IT AND POST SOME BB STUFF...LIFE GOES ON.
Actually MooseJay did say the guy was black, and I have never seen CSI. But good joke anyway. :)
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HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
TOO MANY CSI EPISODES....
MJ DIDN'T SAY THE GUY WAS BLACK....BUT ALL OF THIS ACCORDING TO HIM HAPPENED IN A BLINK OF AN EYE...SOOOOO DOES HE KNOW WHAT THE GUY LOOKS LIKE????
LIKE THE JOKE I HEARD...
A WHITE MAN GETS ROBBED BY ANOTHER WHITE MAN WHO IS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR..HE HEADS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DESCRIBES THE ASSAILANT AS AN IRISH MAN WITH RED HAIR WHO ROBBED HIM. THE WHITE COP DRAWS A PICTURE OF A BLACK MAN AND THE GUY REPLIES THAT'S HIM!!!!!......
YOUR MONEY IS GONE TO THE PROSTITUTE...GET OVER IT AND POST SOME BB STUFF...LIFE GOES ON.
fuck you, if one person can work hard for 100 dollars, another can as well... and he did say he was Black, learn to read, just because you're butthurt about the racial (and justified) profiling in this thread (oh WAIT AND THE WORLD LOLZ) maybe you should get a degree in sociology and try to change some things.
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Moosejay=attention whore
Moosejays' Profession=Joke of the medical community
My wish=Never to see Moosejay post again
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pistols are accurate as far as you can throw them; at STATIONARY TARGETS. good recipe for mishots, ricochets and crossfire ::)
What Chinese POS guns are you buying? ???
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What Chinese POS guns are you buying? ???
lol if you have a bunch of 'heroes' popping at someone too fast for Moosejay to catch, some bystander will get hit
pistols are innacurate - some random slob shooting in the heat the moment won't hit shit
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If the police ever catch the kid I think Moosejay should insist that he not go to jail but rather live with Moose for a year and be taught how to lift and follow a proper bodybuilder diet. I think Moosejay could turn this kids life around so he wouldn't have to steal anymore.
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Moose could also get stabbed after fighting with the animal over ambien and codine
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yeah but if you shot that little bastard you'd be locked up in a second------CT is shitty like that-------we're no Texas :-\
yeah we tend to look the other way on that,just like that Horn guy that shot those 2 mexicans in houston.
horn should be charged with murder,but he wont.
bench
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In Texas in a situation like that the cops would be more likely to be critiquing your marksmanship while the bleeding POS was on the ground than questioning you. ;D
hahahaha its funny,but i actually did that once.
a guy and his stepson got into a drunken argument and as the son was walking away the father shot the son in the calf and went thrue the shin almost ripping his leg off from the knee down.upon arresting the father he said he was trying to hit his back,but he was using a 30-30 rifle at about 30 yards.he then informed me it was his bear rifle,i then informed him that he should take the sites off the rifle so it wouldnt hurt as bad when the bear shoves the rifle up his ass.
bench
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WHERE BROOKLYN AT ? ? ? WHERE BROOKLYN AT ? ? ? WHERE BROOKLYN AT ? ? ? ?
AINT NO STOPPING AT THE RED LIGHTS, THUG LIFE MOTHA FUCKA .. CRIME PAYS
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Rule Number that I was taught by my dad 1: Never walk out of a building w/Cash in your hand or out of your wallet. Your just asking for them to take it. Take the time to put in the wallet.
Your like the people file charges or go to the police, because someone stole something out of their locker at the gym, yet they never put a lock on it. Common sense is worth your Hundred dollars, No?
no wallet...only have one hand right now...easier to keep things in free hand
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Moose, you will recover.
Move to a gun friendly state.
agreed
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Sorry to hear you were another victim of a Predatory savage that has become an epidemic in our once great country. In west palm , Florida, it's getting worse and worse. Luckily I don't have to live amongst these types, but there's always a risk if you have to drive downtown through certain neighborhoods. I've had a gun for years and believe me, if my life is on the line, I would not hesitate executing one of these vicious primates...even if I had to deal with the obligatory Sharpton/Jackson outrage.
Iwould welcome those frauds, sharpton and jackson, and then wreck them
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fuck you, if one person can work hard for 100 dollars, another can as well... and he did say he was Black, learn to read, just because you're butthurt about the racial (and justified) profiling in this thread (oh WAIT AND THE WORLD LOLZ) maybe you should get a degree in sociology and try to change some things.
right
just say "no" to enablement
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If the police ever catch the kid I think Moosejay should insist that he not go to jail but rather live with Moose for a year and be taught how to lift and follow a proper bodybuilder diet. I think Moosejay could turn this kids life around so he wouldn't have to steal anymore.
"I live alone
I train alone
I eat alone"
-Mr. T, Rocky III :)
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moose were you in a rough part of new haven? although most of new have is very rough. screw it dude at least you weren't harmed in any way........
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Moose could also get stabbed after fighting with the animal over ambien and codine
No
Lunesta and ms contin
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yeah we tend to look the other way on that,just like that Horn guy that shot those 2 mexicans in houston.
horn should be charged with murder,but he wont.
bench
I actually think the Horn fellow should be applauded.
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The kid will commit suicide after two days of having to listen to Moosejay's ramblings.
And the world will be no poorer
My community service
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moose were you in a rough part of new haven? although most of new have is very rough. screw it dude at least you weren't harmed in any way........
Yeah, Roc, I was fortunate, am l;aughing about it now.
Was in whitney ave section of hamden, very nice area actually
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FUCK THE 100.00 YOUR STILL HEALTHY. KEEP TRAINING MOOSE!!!!
MY NIGHT WAS A LITTLE BETTER I TOOK MY WIFE TO THE MOTLEY CURE FEST TONIGHT....GOOD SHOW!!!! ALWAYS SUCKS WHEN YOU GET BEAT LIKE THAT THOUGH. BUT YOUR NOT SHOT OR STABBED, AND THAT'S THE FORTUNATE THING!!!!
KEEP POSTING DUDE!!!!
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FUCK THE 100.00 YOUR STILL HEALTHY. KEEP TRAINING MOOSE!!!!
MY NIGHT WAS A LITTLE BETTER I TOOK MY WIFE TO THE MOTLEY CURE FEST TONIGHT....GOOD SHOW!!!! ALWAYS SUCKS WHEN YOU GET BEAT LIKE THAT THOUGH. BUT YOUR NOT SHOT OR STABBED, AND THAT'S THE FORTUNATE THING!!!!
KEEP POSTING DUDE!!!!
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FUCK THE 100.00 YOUR STILL HEALTHY. KEEP TRAINING MOOSE!!!!
MY NIGHT WAS A LITTLE BETTER I TOOK MY WIFE TO THE MOTLEY CURE FEST TONIGHT....GOOD SHOW!!!! ALWAYS SUCKS WHEN YOU GET BEAT LIKE THAT THOUGH. BUT YOUR NOT SHOT OR STABBED, AND THAT'S THE FORTUNATE THING!!!!
KEEP POSTING DUDE!!!!
Motley Crue! Still around...huh
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
Your a bitch moose. Plain and simple.
Few things in this world are guaranteed. One of them is this never, never, ever would happen to me.
No wonder you made that list. You wreak of desperation my imitation man.....
V
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I actually think the Horn fellow should be applauded.
me too,but the fact still stands that he broke the law.
bench
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MOOSE, THE CRUE IS AROUND AND SOUNDING WELL. DON;T TAKE NO SHIT OFF THESE KNUCKLEHEADS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN NO WHERE OR DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE.....STAY STRONG, EVEN IN THE FACE OF STUPIDITY........MY DRILL SERGEANT TOLD ME THAT BACK IN 86, COMBAT MEDC
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Your a bitch moose. Plain and simple.
Few things in this world are guaranteed. One of them is this never, never, ever would happen to me.
No wonder you made that list. You wreak of desperation my imitation man.....
V
dear stupid, he cannot run after him at the moment,
signed,
reality.
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I DON;T FOLLOW BUT WHTEVER
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MOOSE, THE CRUE IS AROUND AND SOUNDING WELL. DON;T TAKE NO SHIT OFF THESE KNUCKLEHEADS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN NO WHERE OR DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE.....STAY STRONG, EVEN IN THE FACE OF STUPIDITY........MY DRILL SERGEANT TOLD ME THAT BACK IN 86, COMBAT MEDC
Yes.
Fact is, when I am here, I feel SOOO much smarter than I am.
Fellows like 'vineevee' help me here ;)
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This is terrible news! Just glad you are alright Moose. Man some people have no respect, thats alright it will all catch up with this low life in the end. There are no free lunches in this world.
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This is terrible news! Just glad you are alright Moose. Man some people have no respect, thats alright it will all catch up with this low life in the end. There are no free lunches in this world.
thanks l2h...I agree
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dear stupid, he cannot run after him at the moment,
signed,
reality.
Dear Reality,
He was stalked as easy pickings by a predator. Unable to run? Hell even if he could I doubt he would have.
Signed,
Stupid.
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thanks l2h...I agree
First of all your story is bullshit, you made it up to start yet another thread.
Secondly stop talking tough about buying a gun. You gonna carry it around and be fast draw mcgraw there tex? As if you might actually use it. .. and if you did you would probably hit a bystander or kid and not your "lean and fast" target.
And if you fire on someone, even if they robbed you, be ready to get chokeslammed to the ground at gunpoint by the cops and spend the next many hours explaining yourself there wyatt earp. and pray you didnt hit a bystander.
you are a wierd little queef.
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
Karma for flooding the boards.
I spent the money on hookers and pork rinds.
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Actually MooseJay did say the guy was black, and I have never seen CSI. But good joke anyway. :)
NO HE DIDN'T ...IT WAS EL PAJERO IDIOT THAT ASKED IF HE WAS BLACK ...MJ SAID 'SOME THUG'. AFTER PAJERO ASKED IF THE PERSON WAS BLACK MJ SAID YEAH HE WAS...WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS THE PERPETRTOR WAS WHITE....WHY???/HOW DO I KNOW???...HAD THE PERPETRATOR ACTUALLY HAD BEEN BLACK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST THING ON MJ's LIPS, BUT IT WASN'T...ERGO HE LIED.... THE PERPETRATOR WAS MORE THAN LIKELY SOME WHITE METH HEAD OR HEROIN JUNKIE WHO ROBBED MJ. MJ THEN SAYS THAT THE PERPETRATOR IS STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD...MEANING THE PERSON LIVES/HANGSOUT IN THIS WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...THEREFORE HE IS WHITE. NO BLACK/HISPANIC/ASIAN PERSON IS GOING TO HANG OUT IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...LET ALONE ROB SOMEONE...THEY ARE TOO OBVIOUS.
THIS REMINDS ME OF THE CARL STUART CASE IN BOSTON...WHITE MAN KILLS HIS PREGNANT WIFE THEN BLAMES A BLACK MAN. ALL THE WHILE CARLS BROTHER: MICHAEL (A FIREMAN WHO WAS FIRED FOR NOT REVEALING INFORMATION) KNEW WHAT HAPPENED AND SAID NOTHING TO THE COPS ABOUT IT...HMMMMM
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NO HE DIDN'T ...IT WAS EL PAJERO IDIOT THAT ASKED IF HE WAS BLACK ...MJ SAID 'SOME THUG'. AFTER PAJERO ASKED IF THE PERSON WAS BLACK MJ SAID YEAH HE WAS...WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS THE PERPETRTOR WAS WHITE....WHY???/HOW DO I KNOW???...HAD THE PERPETRATOR ACTUALLY HAD BEEN BLACK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST THING ON MJ's LIPS, BUT IT WASN'T...ERGO HE LIED.... THE PERPETRATOR WAS MORE THAN LIKELY SOME WHITE METH HEAD OR HEROIN JUNKIE WHO ROBBED MJ. MJ THEN SAYS THAT THE PERPETRATOR IS STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD...MEANING THE PERSON LIVES/HANGSOUT IN THIS WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...THEREFORE HE IS WHITE. NO BLACK/HISPANIC/ASIAN PERSON IS GOING TO HANG OUT IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...LET ALONE ROB SOMEONE...THEY ARE TOO OBVIOUS.
THIS REMINDS ME OF THE CARL STUART CASE IN BOSTON...WHITE MAN KILLS HIS PREGNANT WIFE THEN BLAMES A BLACK MAN. ALL THE WHILE CARLS BROTHER: MICHAEL (A FIREMAN WHO WAS FIRED FOR NOT REVEALING INFORMATION) KNEW WHAT HAPPENED AND SAID NOTHING TO THE COPS ABOUT IT...HMMMMM
maybe it was some Puerto Rican guy
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Are you saying that Moosejay is some sort of White Devil, SamsonX?
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Are you saying that Moosejay is some sort of White Devil, SamsonX?
NO...you said that...I AM JUST SYING THE BITCH LIED!!!! SLAP!!!
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NO...you said that...I AM JUST SYING THE BITCH LIED!!!! SLAP!!!
Why would he lie about it being a black man? If he's not the White Devil, then he has no motivation.
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HEY MOOSEKNUCKLE. WHY DIDNT U CHASE THE GUY U SISSY?
SCARED OF THE BLACK MAN ARE YA?
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with a head full of methadone and a pushbroome stache that would make bert Reynolds jealous, I you sure you could really tell the color of the man moose?...
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Panther swinging from a pendulum.
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Sorry to hear that.
Damn thieves, stealing from the sick and crippled.
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NO HE DIDN'T ...IT WAS EL PAJERO IDIOT THAT ASKED IF HE WAS BLACK ...MJ SAID 'SOME THUG'. AFTER PAJERO ASKED IF THE PERSON WAS BLACK MJ SAID YEAH HE WAS...WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS THE PERPETRTOR WAS WHITE....WHY???/HOW DO I KNOW???...HAD THE PERPETRATOR ACTUALLY HAD BEEN BLACK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST THING ON MJ's LIPS, BUT IT WASN'T...ERGO HE LIED.... THE PERPETRATOR WAS MORE THAN LIKELY SOME WHITE METH HEAD OR HEROIN JUNKIE WHO ROBBED MJ. MJ THEN SAYS THAT THE PERPETRATOR IS STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD...MEANING THE PERSON LIVES/HANGSOUT IN THIS WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...THEREFORE HE IS WHITE. NO BLACK/HISPANIC/ASIAN PERSON IS GOING TO HANG OUT IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD...LET ALONE ROB SOMEONE...THEY ARE TOO OBVIOUS.
THIS REMINDS ME OF THE CARL STUART CASE IN BOSTON...WHITE MAN KILLS HIS PREGNANT WIFE THEN BLAMES A BLACK MAN. ALL THE WHILE CARLS BROTHER: MICHAEL (A FIREMAN WHO WAS FIRED FOR NOT REVEALING INFORMATION) KNEW WHAT HAPPENED AND SAID NOTHING TO THE COPS ABOUT IT...HMMMMM
yes, I did, dunbass.
He was black
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NO...you said that...I AM JUST SYING THE BITCH LIED!!!! SLAP!!!
goddamn don't u ever calm down ???
you're scarin all the white folk around here..
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Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak. Sounds like the real cost was to your ego, rather than the pocketbook. Take this as a lesson, Moose, and move on. Shit happens, and revenge is almost never satisfying. :)
/anyway, i'm sure you earn than $ before your 10 am coffee.
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Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak. Sounds like the real cost was to your ego, rather than the pocketbook. Take this as a lesson, Moose, and move on. Shit happens, and revenge is almost never satisfying. :)
/anyway, i'm sure you earn than $ before your 10 am coffee.
believe me if you shot the kid you'd be paying a lot more than $100 in lawyer fees :-\
plus its not easy to shoot a gun with one hand----
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Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak. Sounds like the real cost was to your ego, rather than the pocketbook. Take this as a lesson, Moose, and move on. Shit happens, and revenge is almost never satisfying. :)
/anyway, i'm sure you earn than $ before your 10 am coffee.
yes i would never shoot him
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believe me if you shot the kid you'd be paying a lot more than $100 in lawyer fees :-\
plus its not easy to shoot a gun with one hand----
If he shot him in the back, definitely.
Shooting him during a robbery would be clean.
And it's very easy to shoot a gun with 1 hand. You would likely be using your left to defend face and heart vitals while backing up.
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If you shot him Jesse Jackson would be all over you justifying why it was okay for the little beast to steal
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pajero.... hahaha ;D
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If you shot him Jesse Jackson would be all over you justifying why it was okay for the little beast to steal
And I'd be all over him for porking someone other than his wife and having kid out of wedlock...but guess we can't be allowed to discuss that
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That poor little negro probably starved to death and you want to shoot him in the back? Class act "nordic ""beast"" " ::) ::)
Are you a half breed?
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This is terrible news! Just glad you are alright Moose. Man some people have no respect, thats alright it will all catch up with this low life in the end. There are no free lunches in this world.
I wanna laaaaaaaaaaaay you down on a bed of roses ;D
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bump for the criminal element.
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arent you a chiropractor or something ?
Think of it as charity
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arent you a chiropractor or something ?
Think of it as charity
Hi black guy who robbed him.
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sounds like MJ needs to heal up and get back to the gym and start the cardio going ;D
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I was at the airport with some friends waiting to see another friend off. Anyway this girl had her camera underneath her seat at the pub and this asian guy cool as you like walks up picks it up and walks away - before we realised it he was gone. For some reason my friends and I didn't feel we had to get out our AK-47s and hunt the bastard down - but then we live in a civilized country. Not saying I was happy with the outcome though.
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I was at the airport with some friends waiting to see another friend off. Anyway this girl had her camera underneath her seat at the pub and this asian guy cool as you like walks up picks it up and walks away - before we realised it he was gone. For some reason my friends and I didn't feel we had to get out our AK-47s and hunt the bastard down - but then we live in a civilized country. Not saying I was happy with the outcome though.
sounds like 'Full Metal Jacket'
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Dear Reality,
He was stalked as easy pickings by a predator. Unable to run? Hell even if he could I doubt he would have.
Signed,
Stupid.
hahaha well played sir
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Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak.
Does moosejay qualify for one or both? ;D
Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;)
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arent you a chiropractor or something ?
Think of it as charity
I feel most charities are bs
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sounds like MJ needs to heal up and get back to the gym and start the cardio going ;D
was until last surgery
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Sounds Darwinish - the guy looking for the sick or old to prey upon. Thinning the herd, so to speak. Sounds like the real cost was to your ego, rather than the pocketbook. Take this as a lesson, Moose, and move on. Shit happens, and revenge is almost never satisfying. :)
/anyway, i'm sure you earn than $ before your 10 am coffee.
I will survive, chimpy
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I will survive, chimpy
;)
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;)
gloria gaynor?
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gloria gaynor?
You got it Pontiac. :)
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You got it Pontiac. :)
you are the site's resident scholar
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hey 240.
You know, until TODAY, I was ambivalent about your stance on guns.
Now, the more I think of it, I would have liked to gun down that little ####.
Angrie by the minute
Connecticut, btw
No matter the state, shooting people in the back with non violent crimes is a good way to end up in jail. Who walks out of a bank waving cash in hand anyway? I get cash, and put it in my wallet or pocket. A gun would not have prevented or solved this one, but some common sense and a keen eye about your surroundings could have. Live and learn I guess. The experienced must have sucked no doubt.
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WTF 240 are you actually celebrating this 'fact' ??? ??? ???
pistols are accurate as far as you can throw them; at STATIONARY TARGETS. good recipe for mishots, ricochets and crossfire ::)
a bunch of witless trigger happy IDIOTS is the best reason I can imagine for HAVING gun control
unbelievable . . .
What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:
The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by
John R. Lott, Jr.
America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.
Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.
Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.
The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.
Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.
The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.
With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.
Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.
Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.
There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.
Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.
Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).
Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.
The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.
How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.
These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.
This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprenited here with the author's permission.
Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,
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What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:
LOL another John Rambo thinking he'll save the day by pumping off a few rounds
delusional hero-wannabe gun nuts. you all must feel very safe ::)
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LOL another John Rambo thinking he'll save the day by pumping off a few rounds
delusional hero-wannabe gun nuts. you all must feel very safe ::)
Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.
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No matter the state, shooting people in the back with non violent crimes is a good way to end up in jail. Who walks out of a bank waving cash in hand anyway? I get cash, and put it in my wallet or pocket. A gun would not have prevented or solved this one, but some common sense and a keen eye about your surroundings could have. Live and learn I guess. The experienced must have sucked no doubt.
Will, I don't know if you read the whole thread.
I was not 'waving' anything.
I have had thousands upon thousnads of transaction with no problems.
I am disabled witbone arm ,currently, making pockets impossiblke for me to use by my lonesome. Wallets, too.
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Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.
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shut it, gun nut
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shut it, gun nut
guns=goodness
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guns=goodness
Shut up. If you had a gun, that thug at the bank would have taken it from you, along with your $100.
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What's unbelievable is you clearly never bothered to actually research the topic before spewing such ignorance. Lets start with the basics:
The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by
John R. Lott, Jr.
America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.
Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.
Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.
The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.
Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.
The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.
With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.
Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.
Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.
There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.
Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.
Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).
Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.
The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.
How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.
These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.
This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprenited here with the author's permission.
Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,
Epic copy & paste. But google "John Lott Mary Rosh." He has no credibility.
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Shut up. If you had a gun, that thug at the bank would have taken it from you, along with your $100.
No, friend, I am not against others protecting me with guns.
Guys like 240 are good to have in society.
Oh, and please be civil. When you say 'shut up', you kinda lose, dude., right away ;)
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Ah, ignore the facts and data and replace it with idiot babble. Good work.
handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact
go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd
handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie
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handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact
go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd
handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie
Well put, this man sounds responsible and knowledgable. Agree with everything he said.
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handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact
go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd
handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie
You wouldn't open fire on a target 15m away. You'd engage him when he was a direct threat and much closer. At 15m, you'd retreat and find an exit.
You prepare yourself at the range and mentally, so that God forbid some lunatic starts shooting up the place one day as you're enjoying dinner, you can defend yourself. You prepare yourself so that your reaction when some crackhead reaches in your car window is to defend yourself.
It's an ugly world, and I'd love to not need a gun. However, as long as police response time is 11 minutes, as long as people fight unfair in groups, as long as the bad guys have theirs, and as long as there are people who have no problem hurting me for their own financial gain, I will carry mine.
To get a permit to carry in FL, you have to pass a million legal checks, have a crystal clean record, and you have to demonstrate proficiency with the weapon.
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shut it, gun nut
Kiss my ass gun hater. ::)
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Epic copy & paste. But google "John Lott Mary Rosh." He has no credibility.
That had no effects on his credibility. It didn't change his data, nor his positions at places like Yale, etc. Try again. It's also easy enough to supply articles and or data from others anyway if you wish.
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You wouldn't open fire on a target 15m away. You'd engage him when he was a direct threat and much closer. At 15m, you'd retreat and find an exit.
You prepare yourself at the range and mentally, so that God forbid some lunatic starts shooting up the place one day as you're enjoying dinner, you can defend yourself. You prepare yourself so that your reaction when some crackhead reaches in your car window is to defend yourself.
It's an ugly world, and I'd love to not need a gun. However, as long as police response time is 11 minutes, as long as people fight unfair in groups, as long as the bad guys have theirs, and as long as there are people who have no problem hurting me for their own financial gain, I will carry mine.
To get a permit to carry in FL, you have to pass a million legal checks, have a crystal clean record, and you have to demonstrate proficiency with the weapon.
True.
Like the 7th century cowardly combatants who live in the mid east, who fight in any way they choose while we must follow geneva convention and other hand-tying rules at disadvantage....as long as what 240 said is true, we must be able to defend ourselves.
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handguns are serious weapons: fact
FACT: and the data shows the more of them in the hands of law abiding, crime rates go down.
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m:
FACT: vast majority of defensive shootings take place in less than 5'
fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact
Fact: targets attempting to harm you may or may not be "fast moving" and data shows in most cases, simply showing the gun stops the crime as most criminals are not looking for a fight but a victim. In the rare cases that does not stop the crime, data shows the gun in the hands of the law abiding is a net benefit.
Again, data was supplied and you ignored it. Instead of focusing on a tool, focus on the outcomes, which where supplied.
go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd
Again, conjecture from an ignorant person who has not looked into the many studies that exist and parroting what he thinks he knows about guns. I train people to shoot all the time, have put more ammo down range in a weekend from handguns than you have in your entire life, compete in IDPA, and work with all manner of law enforcement and others in the biz of guns. For example:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=219954.0
Parroting what you learned the military has no applications to other situations. In the military, the handgun is considered a last ditch weapon, and for good reason, unless you are in one of the highly specialized units that work a lot of CQB.
handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie
And you should take some time to actually research the topic vs running mouth on a topic you are clearly ignorant about. In EVERY state there was an increase in law abiding people able to carry, crime goes down. So much for your Goofy John Wayne statements.
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You wouldn't open fire on a target 15m away. You'd engage him when he was a direct threat and much closer. At 15m, you'd retreat and find an exit.
You prepare yourself at the range and mentally, so that God forbid some lunatic starts shooting up the place one day as you're enjoying dinner, you can defend yourself. You prepare yourself so that your reaction when some crackhead reaches in your car window is to defend yourself.
It's an ugly world, and I'd love to not need a gun. However, as long as police response time is 11 minutes, as long as people fight unfair in groups, as long as the bad guys have theirs, and as long as there are people who have no problem hurting me for their own financial gain, I will carry mine.
To get a permit to carry in FL, you have to pass a million legal checks, have a crystal clean record, and you have to demonstrate proficiency with the weapon.
up to 20 mins in some places...they put you on hold...dead by then
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up to 20 mins in some places...they put you on hold...dead by then
Yep. Police are usually more of an investigation unit than crime prevention in many cases.
I guess people like Big Poppa J and others are content with 'playing the odds' and just plain hoping that as the economy gets worse and crime increases, they'll never be a victim to random crime.
Playing the odds, praying, and "hoping" is great for some. Others prefer to be more self-reliant.
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..as long as what 240 said is true, we must be able to defend ourselves.
Let's look that topic objectively. Cars are intended for driving to work, yet kill 40,000 per year. Pools and bikes-designed for biking and swimming respectively-kill more kids per year then guns. What guns are USED for is what’s relevant. There are negative and positive uses for guns.
A negative use of a gun is when a person commits a crime using a gun to commit it. That person is what is known as a criminal and all legal and or physical punishment should be applied to said person.
The positive use of a gun would be to prevent a crime or save a life, such as the 120lb women who shoots the 210 rapist, the 80 year old man who prevents the burglar from coming into his home and doing him harm, or the shop owner who protects his life work from looters after a storm, and so on
In that context, the ONLY relevant question is, what is the ratio of good to bad uses of guns? Between 700,000 (FBI’s data) and 2.5 million (Klecks data) times per year a gun is used in the in the US. in the positive sense Guns are used approximately 5 times more often to prevent a crime/save a life then they are to commit a crime.
So why not just remove all guns from the hands of citizens to reduce crime (which is not even possible nor constitutional but mentioned here for the sake of argument) which should lower crime? On a much larger historical picture, history has shown us over and over and over what happens to a population that is disarmed by it’s own government: they become subjects, slaves, or dead. Hitler knew that all too well when he said:
“History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." --- Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942.
Thus, why the Second Amend exists and reveals a universal truth: the right to self defense - be it from criminals or a tyrannical government - is a BASIC HUMAN RIGHT no government can grant or take away. Those who do not view armed self defense as a basic human right, ignore the mass graves of those who died at the hands of tyrants.
Great men of peace and war agree on that. For example:
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." -Mohandas K. Gandhi
and
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." -- The Dalai Lama, (May 15, 2001, The Seattle Times)
Guns are a necessary evil but necessary to a democracy and that fact was recognized by men far smarter then we are. For example;
"A FREE people ought...to be armed..." -George Washington, speech of January 7, 1790 in Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790.
And:
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws
make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides,
for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria in On Crimes and punishment - (1764).
And a more recent opinion:
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --George Orwell
This is no less true today then it was then, perhaps even more relevant today then it was then some have argued.
Use your logical mind, do some research, leave what you think you know of the topic behind, and you will be shocked at what you find.
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Yep. Police are usually more of an investigation unit than crime prevention in many cases.
I guess people like Big Poppa J and others are content with 'playing the odds' and just plain hoping that as the economy gets worse and crime increases, they'll never be a victim to random crime.
Playing the odds, praying, and "hoping" is great for some. Others prefer to be more self-reliant.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. That's what smart self-reliant people do.
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up to 20 mins in some places...they put you on hold...dead by then
Up to? Try a lot longer then that in many cases.
2 students shot dead had sought cops' help
Walter Pacheco
Sentinel Staff Writer
September 27, 2007
Roughly three hours before they died, Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschak asked Seminole County deputy sheriffs for protection from the man they feared would kill them.
Andrew Allred, Barwick's former boyfriend, had raided her bank account, tampered with her MySpace page and sent phony messages to her family and friends, she told deputies. He e-mailed Ruschak saying, "The next time I see you, I'm going to kill you," and sent Barwick an image of herself covered with bullet holes, a report of the meeting states.
A deputy replied that he could do nothing at that time.
Later on Monday night, Allred plowed into Barwick's car outside Ruschak's home in Oviedo, broke in and shot him dead. He then walked into the bathroom, where Barwick was hiding, and shot her, according to the arrest report. (Hear new audio of the 911 calls made from the home.)
Another man who tried to wrestle the gun from Allred was shot in the leg.
Sheriff's officials defended the agency's handling of the plea for help, recounted in a four-page report released Wednesday. The deputy who responded to Barwick and Ruschak's complaints did "the best he could," Chief Deputy Steven Harriett said.
"The deputy and everyone in this department truly regrets that these two young people lost their lives in this way, but the deputy had to deal with the information available at the time," Harriett said. "He made a decision he thought was the most appropriate."
Carol Wick, chief executive officer of Harbor House, an organization that offers shelter to victims of domestic violence, said the case should make the Sheriff's Office reconsider its procedures. What happened, she said, "It's just tragic."
Allred, 21, is being held without bail at John Polk Correctional Facility in Sanford, where he faces two counts of homicide, attempted homicide and armed burglary in the shootings on Shady Oak Lane.
Acquaintances said he was bitter about his breakup with Barwick, a student at Seminole Community College, and directed his anger at her and Ruschak, a student at the University of Central Florida. The three had been friends, according to these accounts, until Barwick ended her relationship with Allred in August.
Sheriff's records show that Barwick, 19, first called deputies at 11:30 a.m. Monday alleging that Allred had tapped into her Bank of America account and withdrawn money without her permission.
At 7:09 p.m. she told another deputy that Allred just sent Ruschak, 22, a message threatening his life and that he had recently purchased a gun. She pleaded with the deputy to "lock him [Allred] up."
Seminole Deputy Peter Sean Brewer, who met with Barwick and Ruschak, wrote in his report that "Allred's actions did not meet the necessary elements for a charge of assault. and as such, I could not arrest him for making those threats."
He said the law required him to observe harassing communications to make an arrest, but that he would forward her complaint and other materials to the State Attorney's Office for consideration of possible charges.
He advised her to seek a protective court order against Allred and to keep records of any e-mails, text messages and voice messages from him. Other suggestions included changing her cell-phone number and calling 911 if she saw Allred's vehicle.
Investigators said gunfire broke out about 10:30 p.m. during a party at Ruschak's home. Oviedo police later arrested Allred at the home he shares with his family in Oviedo. Officers said he confessed to the crimes and asked them about the condition of "the ones that were shot," according to the arrest report.
He told officers he went to the house to ram his girlfriend's car but shot his way through a sliding glass door when he could not enter the front door. Authorities recovered the handgun they think he used.
Oviedo Lt. Dennis Lynch said homicide investigators are reviewing 911 calls made from the house on the night of the shooting.
Friends and family had mixed reactions on the events that led to Monday's shooting.
"My opinion is that if you get a restraining order, it is just a piece of paper," said Ruschak's mother, Janice. "I know police are doing their best, and I don't want to blame them."
Even if Barwick had sought a protective order against Allred, the forms must be filed at the Seminole County Courthouse, then sent to a judge and finally the Sheriff's Office.
Court officials said the process could take a day or two.
Wick said she doubted it would have helped.
"Allred would not have been served the order in time and, even if he was, who knows if that would have stopped him?" Wick said. "Sometimes there's nothing you can do about it."
Two Seminole County crime-scene technicians continued working Wednesday at the duplex where the shootings took place, gathering evidence.
Barwick's white Chevrolet Cavalier, its back caved in, sat about 15 feet from the front door. Still in the driveway was Ruschak's car, an old police cruiser, a black Ford Crown Victoria with a search light attached to the driver's side.
Phone messages left Wednesday with Allred's mother were not immediately returned. A neighbor described Allred as "a very smart kid" who was a computer whiz. Others also commented on his technological skill, but expressed shock at the charges against him.
"He is a very intelligent man. Never in a million years would I have suspected this," said Daniel Morman, a UCF student who spent time watching movies, drinking beer and building bonfires at Allred's rural home. "He didn't appear to have that in him. I guess you always hope your friends are good people."
But former UCF student Erinn Redd, who knew Allred and Ruschak since their days at Oviedo High School, remembered Allred as "deviously clever and capable of taking matters to the extreme."
He had threatened other friends in the past, she said. "But we never expected him to go murder someone."
Rene Stutzman of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Walter Pacheco can be reached at wpacheco@orlandosentinel.com
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Yep. Police are usually more of an investigation unit than crime prevention in many cases.
I guess people like Big Poppa J and others are content with 'playing the odds' and just plain hoping that as the economy gets worse and crime increases, they'll never be a victim to random crime.
Playing the odds, praying, and "hoping" is great for some. Others prefer to be more self-reliant.
my biggest concern is your statement that 80% of onlookers would give the guy a 'parting shot'
I live in Canada, and the idea of having people walking around with handguns ready to 'pop one off' is disturbing
I fire weapons for a living, from a 25mm bushmaster cannon to a lowly 9mm browning. Firearms are tools designed to kill and they deserve people's utmost care and respect
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my biggest concern is your statement that 80% of onlookers would give the guy a 'parting shot'
I live in Canada, and the idea of having people walking around with handguns ready to 'pop one off' is disturbing
I fire weapons for a living, from a 25mm bushmaster cannon to a lowly 9mm browning. Firearms are tools designed to kill and they deserve people's utmost care and respect
Agree. Especially with an over-developed sense of entitlement like 240 et al., regardless of the backstory they employ.
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the idea of having people walking around with handguns ready to 'pop one off' is disturbing
I don't own a handgun but that hasn't stopped me yet!
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my biggest concern is your statement that 80% of onlookers would give the guy a 'parting shot'
He was obviously exaggerating and making a joke. It's not legal to shoot people in the back fleeing during non violent crimes, not in the state he lives (FL) or any other, though each situation is unique and viewed as such when/if it happens. FL does have "stand your ground" laws which means at least you don't have to run away when your life is threatened, etc. As already posted, we have exact figures for FL, and here is the ACTUAL experience:
"In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools."
BTW, Similarly encouraging results have been reported for all other states where such numbers are recorded. Thus, it's quite clear people in FL who legally carry guns do not do such things regardless of his "80%" statements, and the net effect on crime has been lower crime. Deal with it.
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Agree. Especially with an over-developed sense of entitlement like 240 et al., regardless of the backstory they employ.
Back story = facts and data. Thus, you are a "don't confuse me with the facts" type. Congrats. ::)
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Back story = facts and data. Thus, you are a "don't confuse me with the facts" type. Congrats. ::)
Hmmm. Dismissive attitude? Check? Arrogance? Check. Yeah. That's precisely the kind of person we want to entrust a lethal weapon to. *shakes head* What is wrong with people these days?
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Agree. Especially with an over-developed sense of entitlement like 240 et al., regardless of the backstory they employ.
I've carried for 11 years now. I've been shoved at the mall. I've bad people make threats in various situations. I have never shown my weapon.
I don't know where you get 'sense of entitlement'. Never in a million years would I send a 'parting shot', nor do I think 80% of the population would. Parting shots can = prison time.
I've made it clear in dozens of posts that avoidance and negotiation always come before any kind of contact, and that the goal of any hairy situation is to back your way to a door and get the hell outta there. I know the cowboy stigma is one that is fun to think about. but most gun owners just see it as another tool to ensure they get home safe.
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Hmmm. Dismissive attitude?
Yes, you do have that. Such as "Especially with an over-developed sense of entitlement like 240 et al., regardless of the backstory they employ."
Yup, dismissive attitude and arrogant combined with "don't confuse me with the facts" approach. That would be you...
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Yes, you do have that. Such as "Especially with an over-developed sense of entitlement like 240 et al., regardless of the backstory they employ."
Yup, dismissive attitude and arrogant combined with "don't confuse me with the facts" approach. That would be you...
LOL. I'm not the one who is pro-weapons, nor do I posses one. That's the rub, Mr. Heston. ;)
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LOL. I'm not the one who is pro-weapons, nor do I posses one. That's the rub, Mr. Heston. ;)
If anyone would like to translate the above into English for me, I would appreciate it. I'm sure the above must make sense to someone besides the author. Thanx. ::)
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If anyone would like to translate the above into English for me, I would appreciate it. I'm sure the above must make sense to someone besides the author. Thanx. ::)
Touche. Poorly written it is, but I'm sure you grasped my meaning. Pretending you didn't/don't is a game for pedants or children. ;)
/you have a fast draw, but an itchy trigger finger! gotta be careful. might hurt yourself
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I've carried for 11 years now. I've been shoved at the mall. I've bad people make threats in various situations. I have never shown my weapon.
I don't know where you get 'sense of entitlement'. Never in a million years would I send a 'parting shot', nor do I think 80% of the population would. Parting shots can = prison time.
I've made it clear in dozens of posts that avoidance and negotiation always come before any kind of contact, and that the goal of any hairy situation is to back your way to a door and get the hell outta there. I know the cowboy stigma is one that is fun to think about. but most gun owners just see it as another tool to ensure they get home safe.
240, your words ring truest. They do not understand...they must live in the world of 'Mary Poppins'
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Touche. Poorly written it is, but I'm sure you grasped my meaning. Pretending you didn't/don't is a game for pedants or children. ;)
/you have a fast draw, but an itchy trigger finger! gotta be careful. might hurt yourself
you are truly a chimp of knowledge :)
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Touche. Poorly written it is, but I'm sure you grasped my meaning.
No, I did not. It makes no sense any way one reads it. Feel free to translate, and i will crush it with actual facts and data, which BTW, you and the ilk have failed to ever supply. Conjecture, emotions, and ignorance of the topic, seems the best you et al can do so far, then have the balls to accuse me - after making exactly the statement you accuse others - of being dismissive, etc. Defensive, yes, guilty as charged, but that's a side effect of supplying a bunch of actual factual info and having it ignored only to repeat myself again.
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If anyone would like to translate the above into English for me, I would appreciate it. I'm sure the above must make sense to someone besides the author. Thanx. ::)
Glad to help. You come across as a less than ideal candidate for gun ownership, in spite of your passion for same.
You may be better suited to spamming large boards in order to charge money for what is mostly common knowledge. Why not give that a shot?
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Why not give that a shot?
Can't argue the facts, try a personal attack and a misdirection. Very original. Your parents must be proud.
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Can't argue the facts, try a personal attack and a misdirection. Very original. Your parents must be proud.
Jeez, you asked for a translation and then got all poopy about getting it. You smack the guy at the deli counter when he gives you the lb of turkey you asked for? I didn't know my opinion would sting so bad, lol.
Besides, it seemed like a good time to remind you of your purpose here on Getbig before you puddle up any further. Don't want to lose those sales Will!
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Jeez, you asked for a translation and then got all poopy about getting it.
Again: Can't argue the facts, try a personal attack and a misdirection. Translated: argue/debate the facts or STFU.
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Say to yourself very slowly. "It's only the internet."
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Say to yourself very slowly. "It's only the internet."
Blah, you are correct sir. Thanx. :P
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Blah, you are correct sir. Thanx. :P
hahahaha Glad I could help my brother!
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Seriously man, no one is going to change anyone's mind with one sided presentations of "facts."
Go for a stroll or something. You seem like a man on the brink.
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No, I did not. It makes no sense any way one reads it. Feel free to translate, and i will crush it with actual facts and data, which BTW, you and the ilk have failed to ever supply. Conjecture, emotions, and ignorance of the topic, seems the best you et al can do so far, then have the balls to accuse me - after making exactly the statement you accuse others - of being dismissive, etc. Defensive, yes, guilty as charged, but that's a side effect of supplying a bunch of actual factual info and having it ignored only to repeat myself again.
Oh dear. We have another MattC on our hands. It seems that the brinkzone is devoid of any type of humour. Kinda like a vacuum. :-[
PRO TIP:If you don't take the piss out of yourself every now and again, someone will do it for ya. ;)
/thanks for the dance. you lead next time
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Oh dear. We have another MattC on our hands. It seems that the brinkzone is devoid of any type of humour. Kinda like a vacuum. :-[
PRO TIP:If you don't take the piss out of yourself every now and again, someone will do it for ya. ;)
/thanks for the dance. you lead next time
Dr. Chimps rules
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That had no effects on his credibility. It didn't change his data, nor his positions at places like Yale, etc. Try again. It's also easy enough to supply articles and or data from others anyway if you wish.
You don't understand. When Lott wrote "More Guns, Less Crime" he based most of it of a data set that has never been proven to exist. His claim of how many people use guns defensively each year, for example, is based of data that he supposedly lost. In this day and age of grants, computers, and the sheer amount of time to collect data like this, the idea that he lost the data is preposterous. The data that he did produce was found to not support his hypotheses at all:
The Latest Misfires in Support of the More Guns, Less Crime Hypothesis
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=392584
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FACT: and the data shows the more of them in the hands of law abiding, crime rates go down.
What data?
FACT: vast majority of defensive shootings take place in less than 5'
what data?
Fact: targets attempting to harm you may or may not be "fast moving" and data shows in most cases, simply showing the gun stops the crime as most criminals are not looking for a fight but a victim. In the rare cases that does not stop the crime, data shows the gun in the hands of the law abiding is a net benefit.
what data? This was also in Lott's data that does not exist. In fact, they have never once found a single person who either did the survey he claimed happened or a respondent from the survey.
Again, data was supplied and you ignored it. Instead of focusing on a tool, focus on the outcomes, which where supplied.
Again, conjecture from an ignorant person who has not looked into the many studies that exist and parroting what he thinks he knows about guns. I train people to shoot all the time, have put more ammo down range in a weekend from handguns than you have in your entire life, compete in IDPA, and work with all manner of law enforcement and others in the biz of guns. For example:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=219954.0
Parroting what you learned the military has no applications to other situations. In the military, the handgun is considered a last ditch weapon, and for good reason, unless you are in one of the highly specialized units that work a lot of CQB.
And you should take some time to actually research the topic vs running mouth on a topic you are clearly ignorant about. In EVERY state there was an increase in law abiding people able to carry, crime goes down. So much for your Goofy John Wayne statements.
You haven't shown any data at all; just a few John Lott articles.
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Moose, you just let the guy rip it out your hand?
No way would they pull that shit with me. Although I doubt they'd target me in the first place but damn if they tried it then they'd be eating the curb
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Moose, you just let the guy rip it out your hand?
No way would they pull that shit with me. Although I doubt they'd target me in the first place but damn if they tried it then they'd be eating the curb
Yes, I am sure they would be "eating the curb", like you made Derek Anthony "eat the curb" ....
Please Squad..... get serious. :D
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Yes, I am sure they would be "eating the curb", like you made Derek Anthony "eat the curb" ....
Please Squad..... get serious. :D
Hmmm. I thought I remember Squad saying that such would 'make him see red?' ;)
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Moose, you just let the guy rip it out your hand?
No way would they pull that shit with me. Although I doubt they'd target me in the first place but damn if they tried it then they'd be eating the curb
oh brother tater chip man
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Moose, you just let the guy rip it out your hand?
No way would they pull that shit with me. Although I doubt they'd target me in the first place but damn if they tried it then they'd be eating the curb
well, it happened so fast, I'd just left the teller, I have a huge cast on my right arm so I can't move well or of course run at all...he targeted me, and easy one....otherwise I'd try to suppress his felonious efforts
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well, it happened so fast, I'd just left the teller, I have a huge cast on my right arm so I can't move well or of course run at all...he targeted me, and easy one....otherwise I'd try to suppress his felonious efforts
didn't realize that moose. damn, you been in the wars.
hopefully the little pos will get what's coming to him. probably from another black.
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didn't realize that moose. damn, you been in the wars.
hopefully the little pos will get what's coming to him. probably from another black.
Thanks, bro.
Yes, I believe in karma.
i am sure he will not grow up to be a surgeon or anything like that.
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Thanks, bro.
Yes, I believe in karma.
i am sure he will not grow up to be a surgeon or anything like that.
You got punked, deal with it, probably isn't the first time someone took advantage of you. You seem like a sucka.
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You got punked, deal with it, probably isn't the first time someone took advantage of you. You seem like a sucka.
Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
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Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
Fixed. ;)
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Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Amen .
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Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
Ha, thanks chem.
"Just say 'no' to liberals"
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Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
Upon re-reading this, I had to embolden one of the truest statements ever.
Prove this is not true.
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Punked? Moose was in a cast, and was victimized by some de-evolved primitive predatory savage... something that has become far too common in our once great country. Unfortunately, thanks to Liberal leniency, there has been a proliferation of these subhuman entities. They haven't the brains to realize that the "white stuff" that comes out the head of their genitalia causes their "Bitches and ho's" to replicate more Simian, brainless, inarticulate grunting- rapping thugs who grow up fatherless. Their only goal in life is to rob and kill and "knock up mo' bitches and ho's". Moosejay is a professional.. an intelligent published author and a former competitor. If he were at 100%, this lowlife cowardly abomination wouldn't have dared approach him. Have a little empathy.
good to see racism is alive and well ::)
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handguns are serious weapons: fact
handguns are innacurate beyond 15m: fact
shooting at a fast moving target on the street is dangerous and irresponsible: fact
go to a range, fire some handguns, and see for yourself - it's easy to talk big now, but I GUARANTEE when shit goes down and you've only got a moment to figure out whats going on, you won't be taking well aimed shots, you'll blow your load and empty that entire magazine into the crowd
handguns are serious business and should not be trusted in the pockets of 'Joe Dumbass' ESPECIALLY if they plan on firing it in public and being a 'hero' - this is real life not a John Wayne movie
Train with one in practical handgun matches twice monthly and fire thousands of rounds through your handy gloc and you'll be prepared.
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You don't understand. When Lott wrote "More Guns, Less Crime" he based most of it of a data set that has never been proven to exist. His claim of how many people use guns defensively each year, for example, is based of data that he supposedly lost. In this day and age of grants, computers, and the sheer amount of time to collect data like this, the idea that he lost the data is preposterous. The data that he did produce was found to not support his hypotheses at all:
The Latest Misfires in Support of the More Guns, Less Crime Hypothesis
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=392584
Bullshit! People wont fuck with people if they knew they'd get their asses shot off. Instead now, people defend themselves with cellphones and bitching.
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good to see racism is alive and well ::)
He is speaking FACTUALLY.
If you can't see past that, then join the Sharpton/Jackson fan-boy club.
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He is speaking FACTUALLY.
If you can't see past that, then join the Sharpton/Jackson fan-boy club.
C'mon, Moose. You're (understandably so) hurt and angry, but if you actually believe that drivel, you're no better than the POS who robbed you, and I gotta believe you're a better man than that. Keep the chin up. :)
/the above post is way too saccharine, so i'll temper it with a 'go f*ck yourself' ;)
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C'mon, Moose. You're (understandably so) hurt and angry, but if you actually believe that drivel, you're no better than the POS who robbed you, and I gotta believe you're a better man than that. Keep the chin up. :)
/the above post is way too saccharine, so i'll temper it with a 'go f*ck yourself' ;)
Yeah...I didn't really read the post.
Just rantin' and ravin' lately.
Gotta get healthy to think clearly!
Its like I don't care about much lately...very weird.
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Yeah...I didn't really read the post.
Just rantin' and ravin' lately.
Gotta get healthy to think clearly!
Its like I don't care about much lately...very weird.
I hear ya. It seems that in the last 5 years, I haven't had any real stretch of time where I haven't had some outright or nagging injury/health issue. It sure can get you down, that's for sure. But somehow you pick yourself up off the canvas and plod on. Today, I'm gonna finish work early and I'm gonna do a bit of book buying and then stop at a German cafe for one of those big steins of Hacker. That should help. :)
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Yeah...I didn't really read the post.
Just rantin' and ravin' lately.
Gotta get healthy to think clearly!
Its like I don't care about much lately...very weird.
you 'survived' a traumatic event - that's a natural response
hang in there, champ
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C'mon, Moose. You're (understandably so) hurt and angry, but if you actually believe that drivel, you're no better than the POS who robbed you, and I gotta believe you're a better man than that. Keep the chin up. :)
/the above post is way too saccharine, so i'll temper it with a 'go f*ck yourself' ;)
Drivel? What part of my post is untrue? Check some national crime statistics some time or just open your eyes and read the paper or watch the news. My post was probably a little too intelligently written for most to grasp the essence. And Moose you don't have to apologize for agreeing with me, especially since you experienced it firsthand.
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What the hell were you thinking? Cash in hand on the open street, dude you were asking for it. REALLY WTF were you thinking?
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Drivel? What part of my post is untrue? Check some national crime statistics some time or just open your eyes and read the paper or watch the news. My post was probably a little too intelligently written for most to grasp the essence. And Moose you don't have to apologize for agreeing with me, especially since you experienced it firsthand.
C'mon now, statistically measured, all violent crime has been on a steady downward slide for about 20 years now. Furthermore, most 'crime' is predominantly within the races -ie. white on white, black on black. You want to come here and use inflammatory language like simian, sub human entities, etc. you are just revealing your own lack of intelligence, or, rather, ignorance.
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C'mon now, statistically measured, all violent crime has been on a steady downward slide for about 20 years now. Furthermore, most 'crime' is predominantly within the races -ie. white on white, black on black. You want to come here and use inflammatory language like simian, sub human entities, etc. you are just revealing your own lack of intelligence, or, rather, ignorance.
Why is calling violent thugs Simian and subhuman entities, inflammatory? Is there a large criminal element that posts on Getbig that might take offense to those words? I consider myself an evolved person and think of people who mindlessly prey on others robbing or killing innocent people as de-evolved beings, lower down the rung of the evolutionary ladder. You are probably of the ilk that empathizes with these people and believes they should all be rehabilitated. Perhaps you'd make a good defense attorney. And since I never specifically mentioned a particular race, why would anyone who's not a lowlife criminal be upset with my post?
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Someone paypal Moose a $100 so this thread can find it's resting place. Plenty of millionaires around.
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Why is calling violent thugs Simian and subhuman entities, inflammatory? Is there a large criminal element that posts on Getbig that might take offense to those words? I consider myself an evolved person and think of people who mindlessly prey on others robbing or killing innocent people as de-evolved beings, lower down the rung of the evolutionary ladder. You are probably of the ilk that empathizes with these people and believes they should all be rehabilitated. Perhaps you'd make a good defense attorney. And since I never specifically mentioned a particular race, why would anyone who's not a lowlife criminal be upset with my post?
You don't have to. These terms have been used to denigrate blacks for a long time now. Anyone with any awareness knows of whom you were referring. But enough of your sophistry. Also nice to see you are trying to label me ("of that ilk...")...not a positive sign conversation-wise, and certainly not a mark of intelligence.
In any case, some POS had a go at Moose, that is academic. If that had happened to me, I would hope I would be offered some constructive solace rather than a poisoned chalice of racial rhetoric. :-\
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You don't have to. These terms have been used to denigrate blacks for a long time now. Anyone with any awareness knows of whom you were referring. But enough of your sophistry. Also nice to see you are trying to label me ("of that ilk...")...not a positive sign conversation-wise, and certainly not a mark of intelligence.
In any case, some POS had a go at Moose, that is academic. If that had happened to me, I would hope I would be offered some constructive solace rather than a poisoned chalice of racial rhetoric. :-\
been awhile since I've seen the word "chalice" in a sentence.
poisoned chalice?
Nice :)
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What the hell were you thinking? Cash in hand on the open street, dude you were asking for it. REALLY WTF were you thinking?
I was not in the open street.
You likely are not aware that I had an arm in a cast and could not pocket my cash.
My fault either way...but not as simple as you think
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I hear ya. It seems that in the last 5 years, I haven't had any real stretch of time where I haven't had some outright or nagging injury/health issue. It sure can get you down, that's for sure. But somehow you pick yourself up off the canvas and plod on. Today, I'm gonna finish work early and I'm gonna do a bit of book buying and then stop at a German cafe for one of those big steins of Hacker. That should help. :)
Yes!
Lose yourself in it.
Same here...since turning 40 a few years back, a cavalcade of health woes!
Damages my calm.
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you 'survived' a traumatic event - that's a natural response
hang in there, champ
I will endure :)
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Someone paypal Moose a $100 so this thread can find it's resting place. Plenty of millionaires around.
I never refuse food or money ;)
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You don't have to. These terms have been used to denigrate blacks for a long time now. Anyone with any awareness knows of whom you were referring. But enough of your sophistry. Also nice to see you are trying to label me ("of that ilk...")...not a positive sign conversation-wise, and certainly not a mark of intelligence.
In any case, some POS had a go at Moose, that is academic. If that had happened to me, I would hope I would be offered some constructive solace rather than a poisoned chalice of racial rhetoric. :-\
Both Chem and Chimps are smart guys
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Both Chem and Chimps are smart guys
the thug who punked you is deep in your head. how does it feel to be made a bitch.
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the thug who pinked you is deep in your head. how does it feel to be made a bitch.
Losing 100$, if you had it in the first place, would bankrupt you.
How does it feel to be a member of 'Wavy Gray Travelling Hog Farm Commune?
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Losing 100$, if you had it in the first place, would bankrupt you.
How does it feel to be a member of 'Wavy Gray Travelling Hog Farm Commune?
did you cry after the thug made you his bitch, I know you did
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....nothing like this has ever happened to me before
First time out and about since arm surgery last week
Went to bank this morning, withdrew $100 cash
was walking out of bank, cash in hand
Young, quick bastard thug ran by me, ripped wad of cash from my hand...
I couldn't run after him, obviously...cops are still looking for him...he was on foot, still at large in suburb here.
Happened in a blink of the eye.
I don't know what to think as of now
rumour has it the economy has put the young lad in a bind & needed a $100 to fill his tank
this sort of thing is happening alot these days
but.....
no big deal for people like you so....
STOP fucking whining about it
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rumour has it the economy has put the young lad in a bind & needed a $100 to fill his tank
this sort of thing is happening alot these days
but.....
no big deal for people like you so....
STOP fucking whining about it
;D ;D
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You don't have to. These terms have been used to denigrate blacks for a long time now. Anyone with any awareness knows of whom you were referring. But enough of your sophistry. Also nice to see you are trying to label me ("of that ilk...")...not a positive sign conversation-wise, and certainly not a mark of intelligence.
In any case, some POS had a go at Moose, that is academic. If that had happened to me, I would hope I would be offered some constructive solace rather than a poisoned chalice of racial rhetoric. :-\
Really? So when you see the phrases Sub-human entities and Simians, you automatically think of Blacks? Hmmm. You probaby also thought because I wrote the phrase "bitches and Ho's", it was automatically about Blacks. Has it occurred to you that there is a sizable contingent of White youths, that also refer to women in those denigrating terms and thanks to MTV's glorification of the Gangsta lifestyle, also aspire to a life of Street Thuggery. I admit, my original post was a little over the top, but this is Getbig, and as such I feel I have a responsibility to write something stimulating. You seem like a bright guy, but you do jump to conclusions. Your conclusion is that I am a racist and hate blacks. I happen to have a couple of close friends that are black, but they are not the types who say "Bitches and Ho's" and they look down on the Gangsta types. They also find apologists like Sharpton and Jackson to be embarassing. What I was referring to in my posts was about a despicable, cowardly character type, not a particular race. If you have the opinion that it can only be blacks one is referring to when describing people as Simian-like, sub-human, brainless, etc, then maybe you need to examine your own beliefs.
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rumour has it the economy has put the young lad in a bind & needed a $100 to fill his tank
this sort of thing is happening alot these days
but.....
no big deal for people like you so....
STOP fucking whining about it
MJ is a whiney little girl. whine whine whine
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did you cry after the thug made you his bitch, I know you did
quack dr gets robbed...takes one to know one
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quack dr gets robbed...takes one to know one
I need a tourniquet
to stave off
all the blood loss
Via paper cuts
from counting
stacks of my $$$$$$$ ;)
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I need a tourniquet
to stave off
all the blood loss
Via paper cuts
from counting
stacks of my $$$$$$$ ;)
big cash business, huh? :)
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big cash business, huh? :)
Nah...almost all insurance...very little cash...just co-pays
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LMAO... it's true. In Florida, after my brother shot a guy who tried to rob his pharmacy, the cops were laughing at what appeared to be blood and possibly feces/some kind of gut content on the sidewalk that the wounded man trailed as he got into the getaway car.
Moosey, I'm sure you know now.. but ideally...
You put the $ directly into your front pocket.
You have your glock up front, either in a fanny or preferably inside waist band front.
You catch eye contact with everyone you can. You watch their hips, eyes, and hands. Eyes lie, hands can give them away, but hips are the telltale sign what they intend to do. Any deviation from standard hip motion and you know this person is someone to watch.
If someone comes at you for money, you raise the left hand, create space in a backwards/angled direction, while drawing your weapon. You are FVCKING LOUD. You give him the loudest "No Motherfvcker!" you can in your sternest cop voice - it might hesitate him for a second, and it'll certainly alert witnesses and heroes alike. You make it very clear to the 8 people now watching that you retreated and issued a warning and tried to defend with your hand, and then you did indeed use deadly force on the guy who was committing a forcible felony on you.
Once he has your cash, nah, you can't shoot him. You can catch him and politely ask for you $ back.
Yes, this is the American solution for everything: shoot to kill. Too bad that despite all of your guns, your capital punishment, your city praefects and state governors taking a tough-on-crime stand and your jurists alway trying to change laws to allow derelicts less and less loopholes to escape harsh sentences like life sentences and capital punihsment, your country still has over twice the homicide rate of an European country like mine that doesen't have either capital punishment or a population armed to their teeth.
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Yes, this is the American solution for everything: shoot to kill. Too bad that despite all of your guns, your capital punishment, your city praefects and state governors taking a tough-on-crime stand and your jurists alway trying to change laws to allow derelicts less and less loopholes to escape harsh sentences like life sentences and capital punihsment, your country still has over twice the homicide rate of an European country like mine that doesen't have either capital punishment or a population armed to their teeth.
Yes, you europeans live in the 7th century when they did not have guns anyway.
Get with the fucking program, Tovarisch
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NB...I don't know if it is anger right now...but I should get a gun
And, if I was not so shocked and had a gun
I would have shot that fucking ####
let the black 'community' come down on my, as it fits their convenience
you would actually want to shoot a dude for taking 100 bucks? he didnt even beat you up and run, he just snatched it. you're a real brave one arentcha
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you would actually want to shoot a dude for taking 100 bucks? he didnt even beat you up and run, he just snatched it. you're a real brave one arentcha
she's currently handicapped for crying out loud :)
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But more important, was he black?
Dude you're seriously spamming this site with complete and utter SHITE.
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you would actually want to shoot a dude for taking 100 bucks? he didnt even beat you up and run, he just snatched it. you're a real brave one arentcha
Learn to comprehend, amigo
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yeah but the black community is real up in arms about white people shooting kids in the back----especially after the whole Malik Jones thing
dont get me wrong I would have shook your hand and called you a hero if you blasted the little scumbag in the back
that shit is the reason I have my pistol license
Malik Jones was a fucking lifetime, piece of shit thug.
His momma campaigns now like she actually cared about him when he was alive and thieving and killing.
Wears those insipid white robes and all that other muslim shit she quickly adopted after he was killed by cops.
Its all about the 2.5 million she wants but will never ever get
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Really? So when you see the phrases Sub-human entities and Simians, you automatically think of Blacks? Hmmm. You probaby also thought because I wrote the phrase "bitches and Ho's", it was automatically about Blacks. Has it occurred to you that there is a sizable contingent of White youths, that also refer to women in those denigrating terms and thanks to MTV's glorification of the Gangsta lifestyle, also aspire to a life of Street Thuggery. I admit, my original post was a little over the top, but this is Getbig, and as such I feel I have a responsibility to write something stimulating. You seem like a bright guy, but you do jump to conclusions. Your conclusion is that I am a racist and hate blacks. I happen to have a couple of close friends that are black, but they are not the types who say "Bitches and Ho's" and they look down on the Gangsta types. They also find apologists like Sharpton and Jackson to be embarassing. What I was referring to in my posts was about a despicable, cowardly character type, not a particular race. If you have the opinion that it can only be blacks one is referring to when describing people as Simian-like, sub-human, brainless, etc, then maybe you need to examine your own beliefs.
You're new around here, are'nt you?
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Malik Jones was a fucking lifetime, piece of shit thug.
His momma campaigns now like she actually cared about him when he was alive and thieving and killing.
Wears those insipid white robes and all that other muslim shit she quickly adopted after he was killed by cops.
Its all about the 2.5 million she wants but will never ever get
of course-----they're all "angels and saints" when they're dead.
the system is retarded sometimes
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of course-----they're all "angels and saints" when they're dead.
the system is retarded sometimes
I'd ride my bicycle in New Haven a few years ago at 11pm at nite...I swear three year olds were running around, no mom or dad to be found anywhere.
You know what I mean.
Fucking disgraceful, and very sad.
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I'd ride my bicycle in New Haven a few years ago at 11pm at nite...I swear three year olds were running around, no mom or dad to be found anywhere.
You know what I mean.
Fucking disgraceful, and very sad.
Maybe you should donate some of your "wealth" to those in need so those kids don't need to be on the streets. We all know that Chiropractors are the highest paid medical professionals. ::)
Never met an MD who didn't laugh at the mention of a Chiropractor ;)
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Maybe you should donate some of your "wealth" to those in need so those kids don't need to be on the streets. We all know that Chiropractors are the highest paid medical professionals. ::)
Never met an MD who didn't laugh at the mention of a Chiropractor ;)
I will give them nothing at all....I am not a liberal....let them fucking help themselves, you unsophisticated douche.
I make more than the average MD.
Hope this helps...sleep well, my friend.
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I will give them nothing at all....I am not a liberal....let them fucking help themselves, you unsophisticated douche.
I make more than the average MD.
Hope this helps...sleep well, my friend.
LIAR!
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Average MD makes 87K.
If you don't think that is peanuts, get a third job.
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$87k is some damn good money.
I don't know if 8 years of med school is worth $87k. The loans gotta suck.
But it's good money.
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Average MD makes 87K.
If you don't think that is peanuts, get a third job.
You are an idiot!! Low end average for a Family Practice MD is well over 100,000. 87k is peanuts for an MD but you making more or even that as a back cracker is a JOKE! Get a life dipshit. STOP LYING!! I realize its only the internet but the world hates liars.
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$87k is some damn good money.
I don't know if 8 years of med school is worth $87k. The loans gotta suck.
But it's good money.
87k is a joke, you believe that. I thought you were smarter 240. MooseIdiot does not have a clue. MD's laugh at his "profession".
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For you MooseIdiot:Don't be an idiot!!
Allergy/ Immunology $158,000 $221,000 $487,000
Ambulatory $ 80,000 $112,000 $152,000
Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $ 283,000 $311,000 $378,000
Anesthesiology: General $207,000 $275,000 $448,000
Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 $370,000 $651,000
Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 $395,000 $647,000
Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 $468,000 $811,000
Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 $403,000 $599,000
Critical Care $187,000 $215,000 $320,000
Dermatology $ 195,000 $308,000 $452,000
Emergency Medicine $192,000 $216,000 $295,000
Endocrinology $171,000 $187,000 $260,000
FP (with OB) $182,000 $204,000 $241,000
FP (w/o OB) $161,000 $135,000 $239,000
FP - Sports Medicine $ 152,000 $208,000 $363,000
FP - Urgent Care $ 128,000 $198,000 $299,000
Gastroenterology $265,000 $349,000 $590,000
Hematology/Oncology $181,348 $245,000 $685,000
Infectious Disease $154,000 $178,000 $271,000
Internal Medicine $154,000 $176,000 $238,000
IM (Hospitalist) $161,000 $172,000 $245,000
Medicine/Pediatrics $139,000 $168,000 $271,000
Medical Oncology $198,000
$257,000 $455,000
Neonatal Medicine $286,000 $310,000 $381,000
Nephrology $191,000 $269,000 $447,000
Neurology $180,000 $228,000 $345,000
Obstetrics/Gynecology $211,000 $261,000 $417,000
Gynecology $159,000 $213,000 $358,000
Maternal/Fetal Medicine $286,000 $322,000 $610,000
Occupational Medicine $139,000 $185,000 $290,000
Ophthalmology $138,000 $314,000 $511,000
Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 $469,000 $716,000
Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 $342,000 $670,000
ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 $392,000 $791,000
ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 $459,000 $770,000
ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 $491,000 $715,000
ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 $670,000 $1,352,000
ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 $479,000 $762,000
Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 $311,000 $516,000
Pathology $169,000 $321,000 $610,000
Pediatrics $135,000 $175,000 $271,000
Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 $282,000 $607,000
Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 $259,000 $398,000
Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 $217,000 $251,000
Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 $189,000 $362,000
Physiatry $169,000 $244,000 $313,000
Podiatry $128,000 $168,000 $292,000
Psychiatry $149,000 $169,000 $238,000
Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent $158,000 $189,000 $265,000
Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 $288,000 $417,000
Radiation Oncology $241,000 $385,000 $787,000
Radiology $201,000 $354,000 $911,000
Rheumatology $179,000 $229,000 $378,000
Surgery - General $226,000 $291,000 $520,000
Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 $515,000 $811,000
Surgery - Neurological $354,000 $541,000 $936,000
Surgery - Plastic $237,000 $412,000 $820,000
Surgery - Vascular $270,000 $329,000 $525,000
Urology $261,000 $358,000 $619,000
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87k is a joke, you believe that. I thought you were smarter 240. MooseIdiot does not have a clue. MD's laugh at his "profession".
I live in SW Fl. Cost of living is very low here. Our gas is still $3.94 at many places.
87k sucks if you live in NYC, of course.
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I live in SW Fl. Cost of living is very low here. Our gas is still $3.94 at many places.
87k sucks if you live in NYC, of course.
You don't have to tell me about florida bro. I am well aware.
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Hey MooseHead, if you would like me to post the average salary for a Chiropractor let me know. ::) It's laughable.
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Kinda quite for once Moose ;)
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Hey MooseHead, if you would like me to post the average salary for a Chiropractor let me know. ::) It's laughable.
You are correct.
I am way, way above the average chiropractor. I have been very fortunate and have worked my balls off.
And so musty the MD's, to make the kind of money you listed.
And, you did not list the average GP MD, which I was referring to. I donot believe they eclipse 100K.
Get off that "MD's laugh at us" spiel.
I don't care.
I treat Yale MD's at lunch.
Its true, at lunch, bc they don't want their colleagues to know they come to me.
again, I don't care.
You don't have to be an MD, DC or lawyer to make money.
IU make way more with my marketing company.
Best
Mike Dusa,DC
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You are correct.
I am way, way above the average chiropractor. I have been very fortunate and have worked my balls off.
And so musty the MD's, to make the kind of money you listed.
And, you did not list the average GP MD, which I was referring to. I donot believe they eclipse 100K.
Get off that "MD's laugh at us" spiel.
I don't care.
I treat Yale MD's at lunch.
Its true, at lunch, bc they don't want their colleagues to know they come to me.
again, I don't care.
You don't have to be an MD, DC or lawyer to make money.
IU make way more with my marketing company.
Best
Mike Dusa,DC
You also must consider this:
My malpractice insurance (NOt one claim in 18 years of practice)=$2,500/year
Average Surgeon's Malpractice insurance(That's GENERAL surgeon)=$147,000/yr
Other specialists are MUCH MORE muting that list you printed above
to be fair, kimosabee! :)
Peace, MJ, your friendly, neighboorhood, 100-hour week working chiropractor
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You also must consider this:
My malpractice insurance (NOt one claim in 18 years of practice)=$2,500/year
Average Surgeon's Malpractice insurance(That's GENERAL surgeon)=$147,000/yr
Other specialists are MUCH MORE muting that list you printed above
to be fair, kimosabee! :)
Peace, MJ, your friendly, neighboorhood, 100-hour week working chiropractor
You are on here posting 50 hours a week, no way you work "100" hours a week. Get off your DC high horse. You are telling me you are one of the highest paid Chiropractors in the United States and posting on GetBig 50 + hours a week. All Lies like most of the internet millionaires on GetBig. CLOWN!!!
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Ouch! Sounds like Moose is still getting assaulted!? :D
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Here you go Moose: GP starting salary, out of Med School.
The average starting salary in the United States for family physicians is $120,000 to 150,000 a year.
Most of these GP's work in Groups and and the malpractice insurance costs are shared.
Do you want to continue getting OWNED!
Now get back to work, you are going to need to crack alot of backs and you still will never earn what an MD earns.
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You are on here posting 50 hours a week, no way you work "100" hours a week. Get off your DC high horse. You are telling me you are one of the highest paid Chiropractors in the United States and posting on GetBig 50 + hours a week. All Lies like most of the internet millionaires on GetBig. CLOWN!!!
EL, you are new here.
I have not been working for nearly 8 nmonths due to sickness and illness.
But I will be back.
You fellows keep me company.
This should explain it.
I help alot of people. You should be happy there are people like me.
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Here you go Moose: GP starting salary, out of Med School.
The average starting salary in the United States for family physicians is $120,000 to 150,000 a year.
Most of these GP's work in Groups and and the malpractice insurance costs are shared.
Do you want to continue getting OWNED!
Now get back to work, you are going to need to crack alot of backs and you still will never earn what an MD earns.
I am old.
I could retire now.
I am in the top 1% of DC's.
There are plenty of fellows here that know me personally, know where I live (CT & VERMONT) and have been my patients.
Peace,
MJ
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sounds like MooseJay is a hard working, succesful, and dedicated proffesional
not to mention his random acts of charity
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sounds like MooseJay is a hard working, succesful, and dedicated proffesional
not to mention his random acts of charity
The goal is to help as many people as possible.
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sounds like MooseJay is a hard working, succesful, and dedicated proffesional
not to mention his random acts of charity
Yes, all those "$100 donations" really add up ;) :-\
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Yes, all those "$100 donations" really add up ;) :-\
LOL. Not bad. Not bad. :)
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LOL. Not bad. Not bad. :)
Baha. Unfortunately, that'll be the only $100 I'd be fliipin' to THAT charity.
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Ouch! Sounds like Moose is still getting assaulted!? :D
it's battery when there's contact.
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it's battery when there's contact.
Yes, even spitting on someone is battery.
Even if you touch someone very lightly on the shoulder, without asking permission, can be called battery
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Yes, even spitting on someone is battery.
Even if you touch someone very lightly on the shoulder, without asking permission, can be called battery
Any physical contact no matter how slight.
But, touching someone on the shoulder to get their attention, which can be considered a custom, woudl not fly in a court on criminal or civil charges.
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Any physical contact no matter how slight.
But, touching someone on the shoulder to get their attention, which can be considered a custom, woudl not fly in a court on criminal or civil charges.
You, sir, are correct