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Title: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: boonstack on October 28, 2008, 06:50:10 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!
Title: Re: Whats Obama's plan for Iran?
Post by: divcom on October 28, 2008, 06:53:12 AM
here we go again!  national security is already in place...so it dont matter if sailor moon is president.  as far as mccain and iran...we'll be fighting a third front in the middle-east over Napkins of Mass Destruction.   obama is a watch and see like with cuba and colombia. 
Title: Re: Whats Obama's plan for Iran?
Post by: boonstack on October 28, 2008, 06:54:15 AM
here we go again!  national security is already in place...so it dont matter if sailor moon is president.  as far as mccain and iran...we'll be fighting a third front in the middle-east.   obama is a watch and see like with cuba and colombia. 

ok thanks, now i can sleep peacefully.  ::)
Title: Re: Whats Obama's plan for Iran?
Post by: divcom on October 28, 2008, 06:56:57 AM
ok thanks, now i can sleep peacefully.  ::)

what do you want chimp?  the safeguard are in place after 9/11.  mccain dont make any difference...so that BS he is selling is worthless. Maverick. Protect Us. Reform. Fights the Republican Party.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

These emoticons are fun.  ::)
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 06:57:11 AM
Just yesterday, John McCain acted very unpresidential regarding our strike in Syria:



So how does the McCain campaign respond to sporadic news reports that U.S. special forces carried out an attack in Syrian territory? Well a responsible campaign (i.e. the Obama campaign) would follow the White House's lead and offer no comment until they got more information. But instead the McCain campaign opts for blatant politicization. Here is McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb:

"Syria is a state sponsor of terror and a sanctuary for terrorists that target U.S. troops in Iraq, yet Barack Obama has pledged to meet personally and unconditionally with Syria's leaders during his first year in office. While John McCain has been demanding that Syria do more to crack down on terrorists moving from its territory into Iraq, Barack Obama allowed one of his closest foreign policy advisers to travel to Syria for discussions with the leaders of that rogue regime. Barack Obama opposed the surge, voted against funding for U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and demanded the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. If Barack Obama had his way, U.S. forces would not have been in a position to launch this strike. So does Barack Obama support this action -- an action that would not even have been possible if his policies had been implemented?"

This is so absurd. Let me count the ways. First, McCain is once again demonstrating the recklessness and impulsiveness that makes one question whether he can in fact be commander in chief. There is only one proper response to this. The same response that the Obama campaign gave, which is that you just simply don't discuss a military operation if the White House and the military are refusing to comment. The issue is a sensitive one and a question of national security. You take your lead from them and wait until you have all the facts, instead of trying to score cheap political points.

Second, here is the McCain campaign accusing Senator Obama of supposedly not being willing to crossover into Syria, even though he has rightly not commented on it at all. But Senator McCain has previously mocked Senator Obama for being willing to go into Pakistan and go after high value Al Qaeda targets. The intelligence community tells us that the greatest threat to the homeland and the place where an attack would most likely be planned is on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. But the McCain campaign seems to be arguing that smuggling routes from Syria into Iraq are a higher priority target than terrorist training camps in Pakistan. That is an exact rehash of invading Iraq to fight terrorism, while taking your eye off of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. We've tried it before. It didn't work.

Finally, there is the argument about not meeting with Syria. Here is the thing. Israeli PM Olmert has stated publicly that Israel should move to direct negotiations directly with the Syrians and the Israelis are currently in talks through a Turkish mediator. Ambassador Nick Burns, who was Bush's point man on Iran for three years, had a piece out this weekend arguing for direct talks with our enemies. Colin Powell, James Baker, the Iraq Study Group, and numerous Republican foreign policy experts have all called for talks with Syria. McCain is the odd man out on this one.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 07:01:17 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:05:32 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

you are a fucking idiot  :D
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 07:07:00 AM
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.

x2

Also, we live in the 21st century and the US has no draft. Why the fuck do you need a president with military experience??

We in germany do very fine with an overweight ugly female that was brought up in a communist regime, and she is the best head of executive germany has had in 30 years.


Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Bear on October 28, 2008, 07:09:27 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

You seemingly can't negotiate with a government uni-laterally murdering 10s of thousands in several countries around the world. How many 9/11's worth of death do you think have been inflicted on civilians in Iraq, let alone Afghanistan etc? Thick fuck. Not to mention all the barbaric shit that goes on in Guantanamo. Epically insecure bully of a country. Brutal whack foreign policy.

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 07:10:01 AM
These are the WIKi-listed side effects of Ambien upon elderly users. 

Does anyone know why this information is relevant on the political board?  Because McCain admits he takes it each night to sleep.

Side-effects at any dose may include:
Anterograde amnesia
Hallucinations, through all physical senses, of varying intensity
Delusions
Altered thought patterns
Ataxia or poor motor coordination, difficulty maintaining balance<30>
Euphoria and/or dysphoria
Increased appetite
Decreased libido
Amnesia
Impaired judgment and reasoning
Uninhibited extroversion in social or interpersonal settings
Increased impulsivity
When stopped, rebound insomnia may occur

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 07:10:43 AM
Where does it say the president must have military experience in order to be president?
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:13:04 AM
These are the WIKi-listed side effects of Ambien upon elderly users. 

Does anyone know why this information is relevant on the political board?  Because McCain admits he takes it each night to sleep.

Side-effects at any dose may include:
Anterograde amnesia
Hallucinations, through all physical senses, of varying intensity
Delusions
Altered thought patterns
Ataxia or poor motor coordination, difficulty maintaining balance<30>
Euphoria and/or dysphoria
Increased appetite
Decreased libido
Amnesia
Impaired judgment and reasoning
Uninhibited extroversion in social or interpersonal settings
Increased impulsivity
When stopped, rebound insomnia may occur



lol, fucking A.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 07:14:10 AM
you are a fucking idiot  :D
it's the typical redneck, cowboy, beer swilling, pseudo tough guy attitude that has made this country hated all over the world, fuccking John Wayne bullshit.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:14:25 AM
Where does it say the president must have military experience in order to be president?

and if i recall there is something called advisors.

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:16:04 AM
it's the typical redneck, cowboy, beer swilling, pseudo tough guy attitude that has made this country hated all over the world, fuccking John Wayne bullshit.

damn you have more sense than i thought.

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 07:22:16 AM
damn you have more sense than i thought.



lol!!! spot on!!

I was just going to ask SF if he get his brain washed lately.

I would have thought that he is the No1 tough guy John Wayne in whole north america!!

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 07:23:08 AM
and if i recall there is something called advisors.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:24:45 AM
lol!!! spot on!!

I was just going to ask SF if he get his brain washed lately.

I would have thought that he is the No1 tough guy John Wayne in whole north america!!



maybe getbig is broadening his mind
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 07:28:09 AM
Funny how all the radical Islamic terrorist groups are hoping for an Obama presidency.  Maybe that should be a better indicator of what we DON'T do.  C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 07:28:44 AM
BTW, if you have a look at the consitution of the united states of america, you will realize that the president is, despite him being a one man executive, a fairly weak figure in politics.

It's called "Checks and balances", for further info read "The Federalist Papers".

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 07:32:14 AM
These are the WIKi-listed side effects of Ambien upon elderly users. 

Does anyone know why this information is relevant on the political board?  Because McCain admits he takes it each night to sleep.

Side-effects at any dose may include:
Anterograde amnesia
Hallucinations, through all physical senses, of varying intensity
Delusions
Altered thought patterns
Ataxia or poor motor coordination, difficulty maintaining balance<30>
Euphoria and/or dysphoria
Increased appetite
Decreased libido
Amnesia
Impaired judgment and reasoning
Uninhibited extroversion in social or interpersonal settings
Increased impulsivity
When stopped, rebound insomnia may occur



That was painful to watch.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:32:30 AM
Funny how all the radical Islamic terrorist groups are hoping for an Obama presidency.  Maybe that should be a better indicator of what we DON'T do.  C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses.

great logic you stupid fuck. so people shouldnt vote for obama because terrorist are hoping for obama to become president? jeeeez

i dont know where to start i could write a paper on the subject,  but its quit obvious you wont be able to solve the terrorist problem (which you in part created yourself) by bombs. usa needs to revaluate its foreign policy big time.

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Stavios on October 28, 2008, 07:33:28 AM
VOTE JEAN CHAREST FOR THE QUEBEC ELECTIONS !  8)
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Boost on October 28, 2008, 07:35:21 AM
Boonstack,
How is your chick?
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Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:37:25 AM
BTW, if you have a look at the consitution of the united states of america, you will realize that the president is, despite him being a one man executive, a fairly weak figure in politics.

It's called "Checks and balances", for further info read "The Federalist Papers".



and not only that..the american president is in many ways 'bought' by big companies and various lobby groups when he becomes president. that becomes even more dangerous when you have an imbecile such as bush as president.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 07:39:51 AM
and not only that..the american president is in many ways 'bought' by big companies and various lobby groups when he becomes president. that becomes even more dangerous when you have an imbecile such as bush mccain as president.

fixed.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 07:40:35 AM
That was painful to watch.

Worse is the thought that he's about to enter the most stressful job on earth.

Have you seen how bad Clinton and Bush aged while in office?

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: mass 04 on October 28, 2008, 07:41:10 AM
VOTE JEAN CHAREST FOR THE QUEBEC ELECTIONS !  8)
Why aren't you talking about the American election like our Dubai prince MattT?
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 07:45:18 AM
great logic you stupid fuck. so people shouldnt vote for obama because terrorist are hoping for obama to become president? jeeeez

i dont know where to start i could write a paper on the subject,  but its quit obvious you wont be able to solve the terrorist problem (which you in part created yourself) by bombs. usa needs to revaluate its foreign policy big time.



Yeah vote for the guy our enemies want in office.. great idea, moron.

Like Bush has destroyed terrorism?  .. down 40% the world over since 9/11.  You're "book" would just be more of this rhetoric, speculation, and mindless liberal psychobabble.

"evil americans bombing everything!!! waaahhh!!! wahhhhh!!! WWWWAAAAHHHHH!!!!" lol ;D
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 07:47:52 AM

He also swears by energy drinks to get through the day.

Plus,

Mccain is 72 years old, and has had cancer 4 times.
Mccain smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years.

He has degenerative arthritis.
He's had cataract surgery.

Also, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, he's
Arthritic, has had Vertigo.

He's on 6 different medications including for
Kidneys, cholesterol, sleep, blood clots.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 07:50:48 AM
Old people are useless.  No way they could be president.

fixed
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 210 and growing on October 28, 2008, 07:51:11 AM
Who is likely to win this election in america or is it as close as it is being made out to be. GH15 seems to think it is a forgone conculsion and Mcain will win - and we all know his word is gospel !!  :D
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 07:51:20 AM
Worse is the thought that he's about to enter the most stressful job on earth.

Have you seen how bad Clinton and Bush aged while in office?

True. McCains "aged" pic could be a Tombstone (note: Not wishing the man harm - he's just got a lot of health issues he's not be up front about).
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 07:52:31 AM
I've voted republican my whole life... until now.

This repub ticket is a clusterfvck, let's be honest.

People mostly support McCain becuase they hate Obama so bad.

They refuse to admit they're trying to elect a senile old man on drugs, and a dim religious zealout in Palin.




Okay, back to ignoring politics for a week for me  ;D
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 07:53:43 AM
He also swears by energy drinks to get through the day.

Plus,

Mccain is 72 years old, and has had cancer 4 times.
Mccain smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years.

He has degenerative arthritis.
He's had cataract surgery.

Also, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, he's
Arthritic, has had Vertigo.

He's on 6 different medications including for
Kidneys, cholesterol, sleep, blood clots.

I said it before, vote McCain and you will get that bitch Sarah Palin for president....  :-X :-X

This will be the first time in history that the president spends more on make up than on military....  ;D

The american system is fucked up there, if our executive dies, we get to vote the next one, you guys have to stick with the vice president for the whole term.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:59:10 AM
Yeah vote for the guy our enemies want in office.. great idea, moron.

logic of the simple minded redneck. you are gonna let 'terrorists' dictate how people vote simply on the fact that they prefer obama?

not only that...bush has reduced terrorism? lol..i guess that depends on how you define terrorism. go to iraq and see if he has reduced terrorism.....and i consider the Iraqi war in itself to be an act of terror.  only thing bush has done is to create more potential terrorists, they still hate america down there..and who can blame them. dont forget all the mindfucked american soldiers who will be returning to usa...

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: mikediesel on October 28, 2008, 08:05:17 AM
He also swears by energy drinks to get through the day.

Plus,

Mccain is 72 years old, and has had cancer 4 times.
Mccain smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years.

He has degenerative arthritis.
He's had cataract surgery.

Also, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, he's
Arthritic, has had Vertigo.

He's on 6 different medications including for
Kidneys, cholesterol, sleep, blood clots.

Ronald Reagan
Nearsightedness (myopia), pneumonia, fractured thigh bone, urinary tract infections, prostate stones, severe cold, Temporomandibular joints (TMJ) disease, arthritis, hay fever, gunshot wound, collapsed lung, hearing loss, colon polyp and cancer, basal cell carcinoma, benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostate), gastroenteritis, epidural hematoma, Alzheimer's disease, hip fracture, pneumonia


George HW Bush
Staph infection, bleeding ulcers, arthritis, mucoid cyst, sebaceous cyst, glaucoma, eye sty, atrial fibrillation, hyperthyroidism, Graves disease (a form of goiter), depression, vomiting and fainting (flu?), actinic keratosis.

Bill Clinton
Gasteroesophageal reflux (GERD), rectal bleeding, knee injury, allergy, torn knee tendon, sebaceous cyst, basal cell carcinoma, acne rosacea, angina, atherosclerosis, coronary artery disease, sexual addiction (?).

George W. Bush
Hemorrhoids, benign colon polyps, alcoholism, cocaine abuse (?), actinic keratosis, loss of consciousness (syncope), knee injury (torn meniscus).


Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 08:07:17 AM
cancer x 4.
72 years old.
Living on Red Bull & Ambien.
Shitload of meds.

All of this - BEFORE he's even started office, the most stressful job on earth.

And all these mistakes he's been making lately - he's just not all there.  He was VERY sharp in 2000.  Not anymore.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: The Coach on October 28, 2008, 08:08:25 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

Here's a better question. Why are people "ok" with Obama's lack of experience in general and why are people "OK with his backing and support of the crooked politicians of Cook county a recently as 2007? Is it because he's apart of Chicago's crooked government as well? (Read "the case against Barack Obama")
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 08:08:40 AM
how many have died in afghanistan and iraq? how many died at 9/11 ?

the worst threat to america..is america itself;  a country afraid of its own shadow. kinda like someone who gets away with murder adn then lives the rest of his life paranoid that someone will finally find out what he did.

a country digging its own grave.

americans live in a self induced state of fear.

instead of chasing (creating lol) terrorist and pumping billions of dollars into the business of massmurder  all over the world...why dont you take care of your own problems first? (including millions of poor people with crappy/no access to health care).



Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: The Coach on October 28, 2008, 08:09:56 AM
cancer x 4.
72 years old.
Living on Red Bull & Ambien.
Shitload of meds.

All of this - BEFORE he's even started office, the most stressful job on earth.

And all these mistakes he's been making lately - he's just not all there.  He was VERY sharp in 2000.  Not anymore.


Rob = Obama robot.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 08:11:08 AM
how many have died in afghanistan and iraq? how many died at 9/11 ?

the worst threat to america..is america itself;  a country afraid of its own shadow. kinda like someone who gets away with murder adn then lives the rest of his life paranoid that someone will finally find out what he did.

a country digging its own grave.

americans live in a self induced state of fear.

instead of chasing (creating lol) terrorist and pumping billions of dollars into the business of massmurder  all over the world...why dont you take care of your own problems first? (including millions of poor people with crappy/no access to health care).




exactly.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: mikediesel on October 28, 2008, 08:11:23 AM
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.

Israel is our biggest and best Ally. Their Military is as good if not better than ours. They are currently helping with the war on terror. They have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, but that info is not made public since all muslim countries would flip if they knew this. The Israel government has also giving us a ton of intelligence on how to deal with terrorist and how the terrorist mind works. They are the duty experts. All super powers need allies, its just how things work.
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: The Coach on October 28, 2008, 08:11:42 AM
how many have died in afghanistan and iraq? how many died at 9/11 ?

the worst threat to america..is america itself; a country afraid of its own shadow. kinda like someone who gets away with murder adn then lives the rest of his life paranoid that someone will finally find out what he did.

a country digging its own grave.

americans live in a self induced state of fear.

instead of chasing (creating lol) terrorist and pumping billions of dollars into the business of massmurder  all over the world...why dont you take care of your own problems first? (including millions of poor people with crappy/no access to health care).





Yes......thats why other countries come to us for help ::)
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 08:12:47 AM
Ronald Reagan
Nearsightedness (myopia), pneumonia, fractured thigh bone, urinary tract infections, prostate stones, severe cold, Temporomandibular joints (TMJ) disease, arthritis, hay fever, gunshot wound, collapsed lung, hearing loss, colon polyp and cancer, basal cell carcinoma, benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostate), gastroenteritis, epidural hematoma, Alzheimer's disease, hip fracture, pneumonia


George HW Bush
Staph infection, bleeding ulcers, arthritis, mucoid cyst, sebaceous cyst, glaucoma, eye sty, atrial fibrillation, hyperthyroidism, Graves disease (a form of goiter), depression, vomiting and fainting (flu?), actinic keratosis.

Bill Clinton
Gasteroesophageal reflux (GERD), rectal bleeding, knee injury, allergy, torn knee tendon, sebaceous cyst, basal cell carcinoma, acne rosacea, angina, atherosclerosis, coronary artery disease, sexual addiction (?).

George W. Bush
Hemorrhoids, benign colon polyps, alcoholism, cocaine abuse (?), actinic keratosis, loss of consciousness (syncope), knee injury (torn meniscus).




So he likes the party. What's the problem?
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 08:15:35 AM
LMFAO...

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461
Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 08:16:01 AM
Yes......thats why other countries come to us for help ::)

aha is that what usa is doing in Iraq lol ?

Title: Re: Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!
Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 08:16:49 AM
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.

Don't be silly, the constant bombing, invading and killing of people has nothing to do with why the world despises the US foriegn policy. The world "hates the USA as they are free" ::)
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Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 08:17:23 AM
Don't be silly, the constant bombing, invading and killing of people has nothing to do with why the world despises the US foriegn policy. The world "hates the USA as they are free" ::)
;D
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Post by: Rimbaud on October 28, 2008, 08:20:01 AM
Don't be silly, the constant bombing, invading and killing of people has nothing to do with why the world despises the US foriegn policy. The world "hates the USA as they are free" ::)

 ;)
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 08:20:39 AM
Israel is our biggest and best Ally. Their Military is as good if not better than ours. They are currently helping with the war on terror. They have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, but that info is not made public since all muslim countries would flip if they knew this. The Israel government has also giving us a ton of intelligence on how to deal with terrorist and how the terrorist mind works. They are the duty experts. All super powers need allies, its just how things work.

simply put:

usa doesnt need israel....but israel needs usa.

helping with war on terror? fuck how stupid are you. israel is a terrorist state....and hell no the palestinians arent innocent..but they deserve their own country.
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Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 08:22:39 AM
simply put:

usa doesnt need israel....but israel needs usa.

helping with war on terror? fuck how stupid are you. israel is a terrorist state....and hell no the palestinians arent innocent..but they deserve their own country.
Israel is the biggest terrorist nation on earth, they attack whomever they want with impunity and their nukes program is as advanced as any on earth.
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Post by: chainsaw on October 28, 2008, 08:25:29 AM
Just yesterday, John McCain acted very unpresidential regarding our strike in Syria:



So how does the McCain campaign respond to sporadic news reports that U.S. special forces carried out an attack in Syrian territory? Well a responsible campaign (i.e. the Obama campaign) would follow the White House's lead and offer no comment until they got more information. But instead the McCain campaign opts for blatant politicization. Here is McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb:

"Syria is a state sponsor of terror and a sanctuary for terrorists that target U.S. troops in Iraq, yet Barack Obama has pledged to meet personally and unconditionally with Syria's leaders during his first year in office. While John McCain has been demanding that Syria do more to crack down on terrorists moving from its territory into Iraq, Barack Obama allowed one of his closest foreign policy advisers to travel to Syria for discussions with the leaders of that rogue regime. Barack Obama opposed the surge, voted against funding for U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and demanded the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. If Barack Obama had his way, U.S. forces would not have been in a position to launch this strike. So does Barack Obama support this action -- an action that would not even have been possible if his policies had been implemented?"

This is so absurd. Let me count the ways. First, McCain is once again demonstrating the recklessness and impulsiveness that makes one question whether he can in fact be commander in chief. There is only one proper response to this. The same response that the Obama campaign gave, which is that you just simply don't discuss a military operation if the White House and the military are refusing to comment. The issue is a sensitive one and a question of national security. You take your lead from them and wait until you have all the facts, instead of trying to score cheap political points.

Second, here is the McCain campaign accusing Senator Obama of supposedly not being willing to crossover into Syria, even though he has rightly not commented on it at all. But Senator McCain has previously mocked Senator Obama for being willing to go into Pakistan and go after high value Al Qaeda targets. The intelligence community tells us that the greatest threat to the homeland and the place where an attack would most likely be planned is on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. But the McCain campaign seems to be arguing that smuggling routes from Syria into Iraq are a higher priority target than terrorist training camps in Pakistan. That is an exact rehash of invading Iraq to fight terrorism, while taking your eye off of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. We've tried it before. It didn't work.

Finally, there is the argument about not meeting with Syria. Here is the thing. Israeli PM Olmert has stated publicly that Israel should move to direct negotiations directly with the Syrians and the Israelis are currently in talks through a Turkish mediator. Ambassador Nick Burns, who was Bush's point man on Iran for three years, had a piece out this weekend arguing for direct talks with our enemies. Colin Powell, James Baker, the Iraq Study Group, and numerous Republican foreign policy experts have all called for talks with Syria. McCain is the odd man out on this one.

John McCain has been on the Senete defense and military panels for years.
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Post by: Option D on October 28, 2008, 08:26:00 AM
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.

Squad you know that aint gonna happen. I questioned that when I was 20. Why the fuck do we chose Israel to safeguard like that... and
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 08:28:45 AM
Israel is the biggest terrorist nation on earth, they attack whomever they want with impunity and their nukes program is as advanced as any on earth.

yeah its just a load of hyprocrisy....

when israeli soldiers kill palestinians they are doing their job...but when palestinians kill israelis they are labeled terrorist.

same thing with what USA has been doing in afghanistan and iraq

and look at the nuclear programs = more hypocrisy.....israel can have nukes but Iran cant? (and no..im not a fan of the terrible mullah regime in Iran that is terrorising its own nation)

what usa is doing is polarizing the whole situation which will never lead to peace.
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Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 08:30:03 AM
simply put:

usa doesnt need israel....but israel needs usa.


The USA is an unlimited ATM to Israel, they are the largest recipient of foriegn aid from the USA, bar none. Google before anyone calls me a liar, the USA gov *borrrows* money from other nations to give to Israel, have for many years, and is stuck paying the interest and still has the debt outstanding.
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Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 08:32:26 AM
Israel is the biggest terrorist nation on earth, they attack whomever they want with impunity and their nukes program is as advanced as any on earth.

Man, i begin to like you.  ;D ;D
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2008, 08:33:00 AM
John McCain has been on the Senete defense and military panels for years.

which makes it even more baffling why he spoke on this, when he should have not.

US military.
bush.
Obama.

They all are silent on the strikes.

Only McCain is talking - and that's somehting you don't do.
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Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 08:34:12 AM
The USA is an unlimited ATM to Israel, they are the largest recipient of foriegn aid from the USA, bar none. Google before anyone calls me a liar, the USA gov *borrrows* money from other nations to give to Israel, have for many years, and is stuck paying the interest and still has the debt outstanding.
exactly, who do people in this country think supplies the gunships, helicopters, tanks, weapons when the Israeli army goes in to occupy one of these Palestinian refugee camps........the good 'ol USA.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 08:36:10 AM
The USA is an unlimited ATM to Israel, they are the largest recipient of foriegn aid from the USA, bar none. Google before anyone calls me a liar, the USA gov *borrrows* money from other nations to give to Israel, have for many years, and is stuck paying the interest and still has the debt outstanding.

yes i think the americans should start asking themselves  WHY?  (and im not trying to stir up any 'i hate all jews' bs)
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Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 08:46:25 AM
yes i think the americans should start asking themselves  WHY?  (and im not trying to stir up any 'i hate all jews' bs)


THAT!!! is one major thing i hate about Israel.

You can critisize EVERY country in the world, but if you do that with Israel, your antisemitic!! A Nazi!!!!

Israel is a faschist shithole of a country, one of the biggest terrorist nations to ever exist on this earth and NO, i don't have anything against jews.
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Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 08:59:31 AM
THAT!!! is one major thing i hate about Israel.

You can critisize EVERY country in the world, but if you do that with Israel, your antisemitic!! A Nazi!!!!

Israel is a faschist shithole of a country, one of the biggest terrorist nations to ever exist on this earth and NO, i don't have anything against jews.

Same principle here, I despise racism of all kinds and wouldn't dream of thinking let alone saying an anti-semitic statement. In fact, I greatly appreciate and respect the history of the Jewish community joining the civil rights struggle on a personal level, as their help afforded me the freedoms I now enjoy. That said, there is no love lost between me and Israel, or as some say the occupied territory. That does of course not extend to Israeli's, same as I don't dislike Americans even though I strongly object to the US interventionist and death bringing foreign policy. The gov are not the people, and I never lump the two together.
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Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 09:01:12 AM
Same principle here, I despise racism of all kinds and wouldn't dream of thinking let alone saying an anti-semitic statement. In fact, I greatly appreciate and respect the history of the Jewish community joining the civil rights struggle on a personal level, as their help afforded me the freedoms I now enjoy. That said, there is no love lost between me and Israel, or as some say the occupied territory. That does of course not extend to Israeli's, same as I don't dislike Americans even though I strongly object to the US interventionist and death bringing foreign policy. The gov are not the people, and I never lump the two together.

That is a point most people seem to forget nowadays....

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Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 09:02:14 AM
That is a point most people seem to forget nowadays....

Yes it is, and very sad to see.
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Post by: tbombz on October 28, 2008, 09:46:50 AM
prop 1 NO
prop 2 YES
prop 3 YES
prop 4 NO
prop 5 YES
prop 6 NO
prop 7 YES
prop 8 NO
prop 9 NO
prop 10 YES
prop 11 YES
prop 12 NO


President = Obama/Biden
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Post by: Mars on October 28, 2008, 09:54:49 AM
The simple truth about September 11 is that America burned itself and now tries to burn the world.
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Post by: THEBOSS on October 28, 2008, 11:02:46 AM
it's the typical redneck, cowboy, beer swilling, pseudo tough guy attitude that has made this country hated all over the world, fuccking John Wayne bullshit.
;) The last time I checked ALL THE PEOPLE you talk about want to live in the US ! Why is that ?
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Post by: THEBOSS on October 28, 2008, 11:07:20 AM
Funny how all the radical Islamic terrorist groups are hoping for an Obama presidency.  Maybe that should be a better indicator of what we DON'T do.  C'mon guys, pull your heads out of your asses.
8) Thats just another OBAMA coinsidence ! Like the CHURCH and the WIFE and BROTHER and DAD and ACORN or the terorist ect ect ! this is a bunch of idiets trying to display their intellect with a blatent display of patrinization ! Its pathetic ! ::)
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Post by: THEBOSS on October 28, 2008, 11:15:33 AM
THAT!!! is one major thing i hate about Israel.

You can critisize EVERY country in the world, but if you do that with Israel, your antisemitic!! A Nazi!!!!

Israel is a faschist shithole of a country, one of the biggest terrorist nations to ever exist on this earth and NO, i don't have anything against jews.
:o The last time I checked OBAMA himself has apparently become immune to any critisisim ! Does that seriously get overlooked by you ! 
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Post by: D-bol on October 28, 2008, 11:50:36 AM
These are the WIKi-listed side effects of Ambien upon elderly users. 

Does anyone know why this information is relevant on the political board?  Because McCain admits he takes it each night to sleep.

Side-effects at any dose may include:
Anterograde amnesia
Hallucinations, through all physical senses, of varying intensity
Delusions
Altered thought patterns
Ataxia or poor motor coordination, difficulty maintaining balance<30>
Euphoria and/or dysphoria
Increased appetite
Decreased libido
Amnesia
Impaired judgment and reasoning
Uninhibited extroversion in social or interpersonal settings
Increased impulsivity
When stopped, rebound insomnia may occur



thx for posting that 240...had a thorough laugh watching it, yet thinking "if he actually wins"....
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Post by: boonstack on October 28, 2008, 11:59:07 AM
without military security, everything else is a moot point.
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Post by: Luv_2build on October 28, 2008, 12:03:01 PM
why are you ok with Palins lack of political experiance?
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Post by: The Coach on October 28, 2008, 12:17:03 PM
prop 1 NO
prop 2 YES
prop 3 YES
prop 4 NO
prop 5 YES
prop 6 NO
prop 7 YES
prop 8 NO
prop 9 NO
prop 10 YES
prop 11 YES
prop 12 NO


President = Obama/Biden

Liberalism is a mental disease.........see above post.
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Post by: bigdumbbell on October 28, 2008, 12:21:01 PM
Liberalism is a mental disease.........see above post.
STFU too short to serve >:(
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Post by: drkaje on October 28, 2008, 12:21:37 PM
Obama should have at least joined the National Guard.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 12:24:57 PM
Obama is more of Peace Corp kinda guy. 

This is probably the single biggest reason why I support McCain over Obama. 
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Post by: Luv_2build on October 28, 2008, 12:26:27 PM
it doesn't matter who gets elected.  Absolutely NOBODY can be worse than the current monkey in office
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Post by: QuakerOats on October 28, 2008, 12:33:01 PM
STFU too short to serve >:(
hahahaa, exactly, i love these republican/pro military/bomb everyone douchebags who have never served a day in the military.
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Post by: tu_holmes on October 28, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
Bill Clinton, arguably one of the best Presidents in the 20th century was not in the military either... Yet Bush was.

Doesn't that pretty much just destroy the "Must have Military Experience" portion?
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Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 12:41:11 PM
hahahaa, exactly, i love these republican/pro military/bomb everyone douchebags who have never served a day in the military.

Yes, at least walk the walk if you talk the talk, which is why I can grudingingly extend a peanut of respect to HH6, at least he isn't all talk.

I also love the irony of wanting to blow Arab people, women, babies etc to pieces but claiming to be "pro life" :-\
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Post by: Decker on October 28, 2008, 12:41:32 PM
Obama is more of Peace Corp kinda guy. 

This is probably the single biggest reason why I support McCain over Obama. 
Presidents with military backgrounds do not have a sterling record as presidents.

Here's a graded list that looks at presidents with military experience/without military experience and how they handled military situations.
http://theredhunter.com/2004/08/presidents_and_military_experience.php

I think you'll find that you'd better select another criterion for choosing a presidential candidate.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 12:43:48 PM
Bill Clinton, arguably one of the best Presidents in the 20th century was not in the military either... Yet Bush was.

Doesn't that pretty much just destroy the "Must have Military Experience" portion?

No.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 28, 2008, 12:46:43 PM
Yes, at least walk the walk if you talk the talk, which is why I can grudingingly extend a peanut of respect to HH6, at least he isn't all talk.

I also love the irony of wanting to blow Arab people, women, babies etc to pieces but claiming to be "pro life" :-\

It does not nccesarily matter if he had experience.....Kennedy did and almost got us nuked. Nixon did and he got us out of Vietnam....Reagan did not but defeated the Soviets...Clinton did not and got us involved in Bosnia with middling results and while he provided an economic boom he took bad advice from idoits like Albright and Christopher who are partly to blame for some of our current problems. I hate Obama because of his socialist policies, friends...lib background etc..nit because he didn't serve.
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Post by: drkaje on October 28, 2008, 12:48:39 PM
Yes, at least walk the walk if you talk the talk, which is why I can grudingingly extend a peanut of respect to HH6, at least he isn't all talk.

I also love the irony of wanting to blow Arab people, women, babies etc to pieces but claiming to be "pro life" :-\

Arabs don't qualify as 'life' in that paradigm.

HH6 is good people. I disagree with his ass on damn near everything and think he may ride the short bus but the man has my respect and can usually articulate his positions better than most here.

I'm not saying the positions make sense, LOL!
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 12:51:17 PM
Presidents with military backgrounds do not have a sterling record as presidents.

Here's a graded list that looks at presidents with military experience/without military experience and how they handled military situations.
http://theredhunter.com/2004/08/presidents_and_military_experience.php

I think you'll find that you'd better select another criterion for choosing a presidential candidate.

Who did the “graded list” Decker?  Here are part of his qualifications:  "In the interests of full disclosure, I have never served in the military." 

From a military standpoint, the decision is very easy for me.  McCain's military experience and judgment on military matters makes Obama look like a child. 
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Post by: tu_holmes on October 28, 2008, 12:53:18 PM
Who did the “graded list” Decker?  Here are part of his qualifications:  "In the interests of full disclosure, I have never served in the military." 

From a military standpoint, the decision is very easy for me.  McCain's military experience and judgment on military matters makes Obama look like a child. 


McCain's age makes Moses look like a child... So what?

Again, I believe you can easily say that while Military experience may be interesting to put on a bullet item, it's hardly the biggest item on a Presidential resume.
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Post by: Decker on October 28, 2008, 12:55:42 PM
Who did the “graded list” Decker?  Here are part of his qualifications:  "In the interests of full disclosure, I have never served in the military." 

From a military standpoint, the decision is very easy for me.  McCain's military experience and judgment on military matters makes Obama look like a child. 

I was hoping you'd ask that.  One of your own made that list.  For the love of god, he gave W a B.
http://theredhunter.com/

That's RED hunter and not Head Hunter.
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Post by: CQ on October 28, 2008, 01:02:10 PM
It does not nccesarily matter if he had experience.....Kennedy did and almost got us nuked. Nixon did and he got us out of Vietnam....Reagan did not but defeated the Soviets...Clinton did not and got us involved in Bosnia with middling results and while he provided an economic boom he took bad advice from idoits like Albright and Christopher who are partly to blame for some of our current problems. I hate Obama because of his socialist policies, friends...lib background etc..nit because he didn't serve.

Interesting perspective thanks.

Arabs don't qualify as 'life' in that paradigm.

HH6 is good people. I disagree with his ass on damn near everything and think he may ride the short bus but the man has my respect and can usually articulate his positions better than most here.

I'm not saying the positions make sense, LOL!

The lack of respect for Arab's lives perturb me greatly, very sad. :-\

HH6, I actually like his military types posts and think he offers a great perspective and insight, even though I usually disagree with him ;D
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 28, 2008, 01:07:13 PM
Thats why I'm here...and since we're headed full tilt into the mess that is Afghanistan, u guys need to pay per post for trying to explain the unexplainable..... ;D

My worry is that instead of allowing an exceptable level of stupidity over there, which Repubs are willing to do, the extreme left will try and "fix" Afghanistan. There is no fixing that place.....I will do my best to serve my fellow getbiggers.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
McCain's age makes Moses look like a child... So what?

Again, I believe you can easily say that while Military experience may be interesting to put on a bullet item, it's hardly the biggest item on a Presidential resume.

Never said it was the biggest item on the presidential resume, but it is one of the deciding factors for me in this election.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
I was hoping you'd ask that.  One of your own made that list.  For the love of god, he gave W a B.
http://theredhunter.com/

That's RED hunter and not Head Hunter.

Who is Red Hunter? 
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Post by: tu_holmes on October 28, 2008, 01:19:44 PM
Never said it was the biggest item on the presidential resume, but it is one of the deciding factors for me in this election.
I have so many other things that I decide on that the idea that someone did or didn't have military experience is completely irrelevant.

Thats why I'm here...and since we're headed full tilt into the mess that is Afghanistan, u guys need to pay per post for trying to explain the unexplainable..... ;D

My worry is that instead of allowing an exceptable level of stupidity over there, which Repubs are willing to do, the extreme left will try and "fix" Afghanistan. There is no fixing that place.....I will do my best to serve my fellow getbiggers.

So we shouldn't have gone there in the first place?
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Post by: Option D on October 28, 2008, 01:39:11 PM
No.

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Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 02:05:16 PM


LMAO!!

100% spot on!!!
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Post by: Busted on October 28, 2008, 02:11:19 PM
you want those muslims over there to stop hating us? all we need to do is stop supporting Israel unconditionally no matter what they do and they'll stop hating us, that's the real reason they hate the US.

No we need to stop fucking with them... leave people alone and worry about ourselves....
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Post by: DK II on October 28, 2008, 02:15:24 PM
No we need to stop fucking with them... leave people alone and worry about ourselves....

that's nearly 50 years too late.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 02:24:16 PM
I have so many other things that I decide on that the idea that someone did or didn't have military experience is completely irrelevant.


Hardly.  Not when when we're in the middle of two wars and there are hot spots in Georgia, Iran, and North Korea. 
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Post by: tu_holmes on October 28, 2008, 02:55:37 PM
Hardly.  Not when when we're in the middle of two wars and there are hot spots in Georgia, Iran, and North Korea. 

Let's break this down to reality.

1. Worthwhile war (Afghanistan) that the Commander in Chief with military experience basically abandoned to go to

2. A completely false war with absolutely nothing worthwhile about it (Iraq)


Sounds like that Military Experience really didn't do him all that well did it?

So again, I ask you why it's a top item for you, considering it hasn't really done anything for 8 years except fuck the US in the butt.
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Post by: Luv_2build on October 28, 2008, 03:23:50 PM
why would military experiance be one of the deciding factors for you when our economy is in horrible shape and unemployment/foreclosures are sky rocketing.  With no economy there is no money to fund our war on a country that never attacked us and never had WMDs.   I support a war on terror however that war is not in IRAQ
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Post by: drkaje on October 28, 2008, 06:26:20 PM
If we attacked Saudi Arabia, I'd be all afuckingbout it. Taking them out in Afghanistan and basically hunting the rest and the financiers wherever they were (and killing them brutally) would have been fine. I don't care if OBL is in the vatican having tea with his grandmother we should get him. I don't care where he is or who is with him that futhermucker has to be killed. Starting wars all over the place just doesn't make sense.
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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 06:34:25 PM
logic of the simple minded

......and i consider the Iraqi war in itself to be an act of terror.  



irony
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 06:44:59 PM
irony

yeah def irony...!

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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
yeah its just a load of hyprocrisy....

when israeli soldiers kill palestinians they are doing their job...but when palestinians kill israelis they are labeled terrorist.

same thing with what USA has been doing in afghanistan and iraq

and look at the nuclear programs = more hypocrisy.....israel can have nukes but Iran cant? (and no..im not a fan of the terrible mullah regime in Iran that is terrorising its own nation)

what usa is doing is polarizing the whole situation which will never lead to peace.

You must be the biggest doofus on getbig.. are you sure you're not Jags gimmick??

Israel targets militants who hide amongst and surround themselves with civilians DELIBERATELY!!!

While the PL's think it's ok to negotiate by murdering civilians by the bushel... also DELIBERATELY.

Israel is forced to defend its citizenry on a daily basis while being surrounded by countries that publicly seek the death of Jews and the wiping of Israel off the map.  No wonder it should be armed to the teeth.  And Iran, the biggest sponsor of terrorism the world over, is trying to get the bomb.  There isn't even a good debate on this.  The fact that the US has supported Israel with all the $$$ and weapons available is a blessing that has done more to keep the little peace there is despite the efforts of the Democrats to stab Israel in the back and leave it to the Arabs, aka Dogs.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 28, 2008, 07:15:38 PM
You must be the biggest doofus on getbig.. are you sure you're not Jags gimmick??

Israel targets militants who hide amongst and surround themselves with civilians DELIBERATELY!!!

While the PL's think it's ok to negotiate by murdering civilians by the bushel... also DELIBERATELY.

Israel is forced to defend its citizenry on a daily basis while being surrounded by countries that publicly seek the death of Jews and the wiping of Israel off the map.  No wonder it should be armed to the teeth.  And Iran, the biggest sponsor of terrorism the world over, is trying to get the bomb.  There isn't even a good debate on this.  The fact that the US has supported Israel with all the $$$ and weapons available is a blessing that has done more to keep the little peace there is despite the efforts of the Democrats to stab Israel in the back and leave it to the Arabs, aka Dogs.

haha an arab must have fucked your sister in the ear.  :D
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2008, 07:22:48 PM
Let's break this down to reality.

1. Worthwhile war (Afghanistan) that the Commander in Chief with military experience basically abandoned to go to

2. A completely false war with absolutely nothing worthwhile about it (Iraq)


Sounds like that Military Experience really didn't do him all that well did it?

So again, I ask you why it's a top item for you, considering it hasn't really done anything for 8 years except fuck the US in the butt.

Top items for me are taxes, defense/security, crime, the economy, and a group of "social" issues.  

I don't really have much to add other than what I've already said.  We have two ongoing wars and more potential conflicts on the horizon.  When it comes to CIC, I would much rather have the war hero and military vet over the guy who has never served and has displayed poor military judgment.  It's not a close call IMO.  McCain has already shown he has far better knowledge and judgment when it comes to military matters.  For example, remember the surge?  Obama said it would not only fail, but would increase violence.  McCain supported it.  McCain was right, Obama was wrong.  

Did you hear McCain scold Obama during one of the debates when Obama said he would attack Osama in Pakistan?  Dumb comment.  That's the kind of inexperienced person we're about to put in charge of the military.  
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Post by: drkaje on October 28, 2008, 07:35:03 PM
Top items for me are taxes, defense/security, crime, the economy, and a group of "social" issues.  

I don't really have much to add other than what I've already said.  We have two ongoing wars and more potential conflicts on the horizon.  When it comes to CIC, I would much rather have the war hero and military vet over the guy who has never served and has displayed poor military judgment.  It's not a close call IMO.  McCain has already shown he has far better knowledge and judgment when it comes to military matters.  For example, remember the surge?  Obama said it would not only fail, but would increase violence.  McCain supported it.  McCain was right, Obama was wrong.  

Did you hear McCain scold Obama during one of the debates when Obama said he would attack Osama in Pakistan?  Dumb comment.  That's the kind of inexperienced person we're about to put in charge of the military.  


I would attack Osama in Switzerland, LOL!
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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 28, 2008, 07:56:37 PM
haha an arab must have fucked your sister in the ear.  :D

No but I'm glad my fellow Heebs are slaughtering the bastards by the bushel. ;D
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 04:12:59 AM
No but I'm glad my fellow Heebs are slaughtering the bastards by the bushel. ;D

i still stand by what i wrote earlier. israel is a terrorist nation......and your earlier post is pure hypocrisy.
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Post by: Decker on October 29, 2008, 06:19:49 AM
Who is Red Hunter? 
(http://stuff_about_the_reds.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/nathan_thurm_1.jpg)

It's the guy who authored the ratings system that we've been discussing for the last several posts.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 07:03:01 AM
i still stand by what i wrote earlier. israel is a terrorist nation......and your earlier post is pure hypocrisy.

Show me where exactly he's wrong there foreign policy expert....show me where there are Israseli suicide bombers targeting kids. Please show me where this is the average Israeli's fault. Please explain why the Palestianians had everything they wanted in 1998, and said no. U have no idea what the hell ur talking about, as usual.
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Post by: drkaje on October 29, 2008, 07:25:48 AM
The Palestinians had a chance for peace but culturally they just couldn't let it happen. If there were no more settlements built, it would have seemed weakened their cause.

There's enough blame on all sides of the problem and it will never, ever... ever go away. We're wasting money there and our political system has been hijacked to ensure we spend there forever.

We should be spending money on domestic issues and I'm against all foreign spending that doesn't include donating bombs or bullets to those who threaten us.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 07:38:30 AM

Show me where exactly he's wrong there foreign policy expert....show me where there are Israseli suicide bombers targeting kids. Please show me where this is the average Israeli's fault. Please explain why the Palestianians had everything they wanted in 1998, and said no. U have no idea what the hell ur talking about, as usual.

israeli soldiers have countless times murdered innocent children and women, so dont fucking play innocent. dead is dead.  palestinians had everything they wanted? load of bullshit...and not only that: first you steal something and then you give back half of it (with restrictions) and expect people to be satisfied?
you watch too much fox news.

are the palestinains suicide bombers terrorists?...yes def...but lets stop this bullshit about israel being the only victim...the nation was built on terrorism....and are the biggest hypocrites in todays world..together with usa.

first you fuck people in the ass...and when they fight back you call them terrorists?. go fuck yourself you piece of shit.  :D
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 07:48:07 AM
I won't go that far but we're very close on the foreign aid issue.....look at Israel as a really big aircraft carrier surrounded by nutbags. I'de scale back about 95% of all non-military foreign aid and immediately freeze it pending review, were I elected president. I'd have my folks compose a short list of worthy candidates. Saudi Arabia would be cut off, Israel would still get support but the Palestainian question would have to be settled.

slaveboy............waaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I believe the Jews owned that land before the shitbag muslims overran them centuries ago. I don't recall the Israeli's invading any of their neighbors, I believe it was Syria, Egpyt etc etc invading them. Yes of course  Beruit, but maybe if the shitbag terrorists hadn't been killing Israeli citiczens, they would not have done so.

Yes loser...they had everything they could have asked for in 1998....review ur history. Clinton forced Israel to give away the story, and the homosexual moron running the PLO said no.

Also if u lost 6 million of ur own people....u get cut some slack, sorry. U have no idea what ur talking about, except more recycled anti-semetic bullshit. And i find it funny, u sprint to the last refuge of the getbig duchebag...name calling. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 07:48:39 AM
The Palestinians had a chance for peace but culturally they just couldn't let it happen. If there were no more settlements built, it would have seemed weakened their cause.

There's enough blame on all sides of the problem and it will never, ever... ever go away. We're wasting money there and our political system has been hijacked to ensure we spend there forever.

We should be spending money on domestic issues and I'm against all foreign spending that doesn't include donating bombs or bullets to those who threaten us.

no doubt the palestinians are 'internally fucked' and they are in total chaos...lots of the money EU et al send to the palestians end up in the pockets of terrorist....
but what do you expect when israel,(and many other countries...including neighbors) have totally messed up palestine.

blame goes both ways.

move the israelis to alaska or stop sending them money/guns.  ;D
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 07:50:51 AM
Move the Palestinians to Jordan...Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc...let them help out their muslim brothers...or could it be that that they know the whiny worthless palestinians are not worth the effort.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 07:52:47 AM
And more to the point...we're completely off thread.
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 29, 2008, 07:54:19 AM
I'd scale back about 95% of all non-military foreign aid and immediately freeze it pending review,

Israel would still get support but the Palestainian question would have to be settled.

Your two statements conflict each other.

Today, 1/3 of all US foreign aid $ goes to Israel.  
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 07:59:18 AM
Not moneywise...countrywise. The UN can deal with Africa.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 08:01:59 AM
I won't go that far but we're very close on the foreign aid issue.....look at Israel as a really big aircraft carrier surrounded by nutbags. I'de scale back about 95% of all non-military foreign aid and immediately freeze it pending review, were I elected president. I'd have my folks compose a short list of worthy candidates. Saudi Arabia would be cut off, Israel would still get support but the Palestainian question would have to be settled.

slaveboy............waaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I believe the Jews owned that land before the shitbag muslims overran them centuries ago. I don't recall the Israeli's invading any of their neighbors, I believe it was Syria, Egpyt etc etc invading them. Yes of course  Beruit, but maybe if the shitbag terrorists hadn't been killing Israeli citiczens, they would not have done so.

Yes loser...they had everything they could have asked for in 1998....review ur history. Clinton forced Israel to give away the story, and the homosexual moron running the PLO said no.

Also if u lost 6 million of ur own people....u get cut some slack, sorry. U have no idea what ur talking about, except more recycled anti-semetic bullshit. And i find it funny, u sprint to the last refuge of the getbig duchebag...name calling. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa

if your gonna go back that far in history and claim lands..the world would be in total chaos (which it maybe already is lol). the palestinans were fucked back in 1948.

as for 98..thats pure bullshit..you have watched too much fox news as i said. and regardless of that, dont come and say that israel isnt a terrorist nation. = state sanctioned terrorism/murder.....basically what usa has been doing around the world since WW2.

as for the anti-semitic card i saw that coming a mile away...how long will israel be allowed to play that card...germany killed million of us in WW2 and now we have carte blanche to do whatever we want?

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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 08:05:25 AM
Palestinian Ibrahim Abu Jayab, 24, is seen next to his computer, in his family house in Nusayrat refugee camp, central Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008. A young Palestinian in a Gaza refugee camp is doing his part to get out the vote for Barack Obama. With a little help from the Internet, 24-year-old Ibrahim Abu Jayab is cold calling random American families from his parent's home imploring them to vote Obama.
(AP Photo/Khalil Hamra

Yeah....that would make me want to vote for Obama. I think Israeli commando's need to kick this guys' door in.

Look dude......u can whine and hate the US all u want...its in our best interest to support Israel. As far as 98..yeah they were going to get a great deal.....now they have nothing. I don't know how long they get to play that card...but how many camps have u visited. I was at Ravensberg last year...they get another century atleast.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 08:24:49 AM
Palestinian Ibrahim Abu Jayab, 24, is seen next to his computer, in his family house in Nusayrat refugee camp, central Gaza Strip, Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2008. A young Palestinian in a Gaza refugee camp is doing his part to get out the vote for Barack Obama. With a little help from the Internet, 24-year-old Ibrahim Abu Jayab is cold calling random American families from his parent's home imploring them to vote Obama.
(AP Photo/Khalil Hamra

Yeah....that would make me want to vote for Obama. I think Israeli commando's need to kick this guys' door in.

Look dude......u can whine and hate the US all u want...its in our best interest to support Israel. As far as 98..yeah they were going to get a great deal.....now they have nothing. I don't know how long they get to play that card...but how many camps have u visited. I was at Ravensberg last year...they get another century atleast.

whining? im naming usa and israel for what they are.

look, maybe you are used to talk to people who know nothing about world politics and history..so you are used to be able to pull your bs...

you have been at Ravensbrück, so what? that gives israel the right to conduct state sanctioned terrorism? i dont think they get carte blance to kill even one person..whatever crimes the nazis committed against the jews.

and i have been at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Sobibor (not much to see), Theresienstadt (Terezín) and Bergen-Belsen so i know what the Nazis did to the jews... i have even used the autobahn...does that count? people died all over germany.......i have even visited warsaw with a polish chick to meet her parents..does that count too? because, if you didnt know the nazis killed a lot of jews there. (150-200 000 jews according to her parents)
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 08:45:47 AM
Great...I'm not pulling any BS..u don't know what ur talking about...review the 98' deal and see if the Palestianians would not be better off now. I'm glad u supposedly visited the camps....I guess it didn't move u. Sanctioned terrorism...I guess u don't believe in defending yourself from people who wish to wipe u off the map. Diplomacy doesn't work with most of these people. The PLO shitcanned any chance of a state and between Hez and the rest of the shitbags there is no chance. Ur world view is naive. We act in our best interest period. Supporting Israel is in our best interest.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 09:05:13 AM
Great...I'm not pulling any BS..u don't know what ur talking about...review the 98' deal and see if the Palestianians would not be better off now. I'm glad u supposedly visited the camps....I guess it didn't move u. Sanctioned terrorism...I guess u don't believe in defending yourself from people who wish to wipe u off the map. Diplomacy doesn't work with most of these people. The PLO shitcanned any chance of a state and between Hez and the rest of the shitbags there is no chance. Ur world view is naive. We act in our best interest period. Supporting Israel is in our best interest.



98?..once again...you steal something, give some of it back and expect everyone to be happy. and like i said the palestians have been just as bad as israel....neither side have been acting anything close to rationally. im pointing out the incredible hypocrisy in what usa and israel are doing.

osama bin laden is a terrorist with blood on his hands. bush is a terrorist with even more blood on his hands. when a israeli soldier kills an innocent palestian he is a terrorist...(and before that too...why? because of israel illegals occupation)...same way a suicide bomber is a terrorist.





 
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 09:11:35 AM
Bush is a terrorist....ok enough ur deluded.  ::)
He's just like Bin laden...Bush lied people died......what did I miss. Where are u from....U must live next to Jag in fuzzy bunny land where everything is nice and peaceful....shitbag terrorists keep their word and America is the big bad ogre that is the real bad guy. North Korea and Iran really want a peaceful nuke program, Islam is really a peaceful religion, Europeans aren't mean,spiteful and jealous of the US, not to mention don't have centuries of blood on their hands. Libs don't want wealth redistribution, and Obama isn't full of shit. It must be really fun in fuzzy bunny land.   How old are u?
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Post by: Hedgehog on October 29, 2008, 09:12:22 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

neither Clinton (decent pres) or Bush (worst ever?) did any real military service.

So it seems like it has little bearing on what kind of president a person will be.

Do you always vote for the person with the biggest military experience?
Bush won last time out against a true war hero (Kerry). I guess you voted for Kerry that time, huh?

Also, I think it's more important to have someone who's a scholar of conflict theory, security policies, political science et al as a secretary of defense, rather than someone who's merit is that he's a brave soldier.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 09:18:09 AM
Thanks for getting us back on track Hedge......good post. i think if u commanded a Div or like Petreaus ran a major war, that would qualify u more so then Joe the average grunt.

Hedge are u in the US, if so, did u see Frontline last night. It was all on Afghanistan and would have answered all ur questions. It was excellant. If not, its called War Briefing.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 29, 2008, 09:27:01 AM
Bush is a terrorist....ok enough ur deluded.  ::)
He's just like Bin laden...Bush lied people died......what did I miss. Where are u from....U must live next to Jag in fuzzy bunny land where everything is nice and peaceful....shitbag terrorists keep their word and America is the big bad ogre that is the real bad guy. North Korea and Iran really want a peaceful nuke program, Islam is really a peaceful religion, Europeans aren't mean,spiteful and jealous of the US, not to mention don't have centuries of blood on their hands. Libs don't want wealth redistribution, and Obama isn't full of shit. It must be really fun in fuzzy bunny land.   How old are u?

lol do you work for Fox news...?

epic simple mindedness

you must live next to uncle bubba and crackwhore suzy. you sound like trailer park trash.

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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 09:33:42 AM
No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 29, 2008, 10:04:28 AM
Mccain lives in fuzzy bunny land.

he said he'll chase Bin laden to the gates of hell...

but he refuses to cross the pakistan border and kill him in the cave he's hiding in.
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Post by: drkaje on October 29, 2008, 12:06:46 PM
Move the Palestinians to Jordan...Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc...let them help out their muslim brothers...or could it be that that they know the whiny worthless palestinians are not worth the effort.

It's the displaced Palestinians that are messing up things for everybody. All of the Middle East was better before the UN decided to redress the Holocaust with land, especially Lebanon.

If you believe the jews are eternally entitled to the land, what's your opinion on native Americans reclaiming their land in America? Most people feel their own families having to move would be different and since that region is so far away we would have any of them looking for a free place to stay on our couch. Maybe we should give Manhattan back to the Indians and see if other Americans would help their brothers out with places to stay. :)

Having two sets of rules is one of the things that helps this problem to continue.
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2008, 12:10:56 PM
I would attack Osama in Switzerland, LOL!

Me too, but neither one of us would be announcing it to the world months in advance. 
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Post by: drkaje on October 29, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
Me too, but neither one of us would be announcing it to the world months in advance. 

I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy. :)
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2008, 12:24:30 PM
I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy. :)

Word. 
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
(http://stuff_about_the_reds.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/nathan_thurm_1.jpg)

It's the guy who authored the ratings system that we've been discussing for the last several posts.

Is that his picture?  lol. . . .

I take it you have no idea who the guy is either. 
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Post by: drkaje on October 29, 2008, 12:39:58 PM
Giving a special division of the CIA carte blanche and pre-signing their pardons would go a long way, LOL!

Once people understood we were serious and unwilling to negotiate or apologize things would change. It would be more draconian than the public has tolerance for but they would be gotten. And no, I'm not part Romanian, LOL! I just get that there are circumstances where it is better to be feared than loved.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 02:08:51 PM
I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy. :)

We're doing this with AQ....basically if we find a terror group that has become linked with AQ, we go after them. This happened in Libya. There was a group attempting to overthrow the gov, not huge but had some talent. They decided to ally themselves with AQ. We then made it clear to Libya and these guys that they now fell under our GWOT definition and would soon be coming after them. Elements inside the group split and they ripped each other apart. Everybody invloved was happy.
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Post by: Decker on October 29, 2008, 02:13:56 PM
Thanks for getting us back on track Hedge......good post. i think if u commanded a Div or like Petreaus ran a major war, that would qualify u more so then Joe the average grunt.

Hedge are u in the US, if so, did u see Frontline last night. It was all on Afghanistan and would have answered all ur questions. It was excellant. If not, its called War Briefing.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/
Why would you think that?

The only thing Petraeus's experience indicates is that he can command a division.  That's not the presidency.  That's something entirely different. 
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Post by: Decker on October 29, 2008, 02:19:10 PM
Is that his picture?  lol. . . .

I take it you have no idea who the guy is either. 
That's Nathan Thurm.

"This was a character created by Martin Short. A shady lawyer, Thurm was a chain-smoker, quite paranoid, and constantly in denial about his paranoia. "I'm not being defensive. You're the one who's being defensive." When questioned, his catch phrase often included, "It's so funny to me that you would think..." He would also look into the camera and express his puzzlement at the questioner by asking, "Is it me, or is it him? It's him, right?" Other times, he would deny an accusation, then immediately reverse his position when the accuser reaffirmed the statement. "No, it isn't!" ("Yes it is.") "I know that! Why wouldn't I know that? I'm well aware of that!"

Perhaps the best known appearance of Thurm was in a 1984 SNL sketch that was a send-up of 60 Minutes. Harry Shearer played Mike Wallace, accusing Thurm of being involved in corporate corruption. Thurm of course denied everything and nervously tried to turn the tables on Wallace."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Thurm#Nathan_Thurm

When asked about an incriminating relationship to MR. X and in spite of a sworn affadavit to the contrary, he responds, "I don't know who that is..."

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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 02:22:57 PM
He commanded an entire Air Assult Div in 2003 and won a losing war in 2006-2008, now he heads CENTCOM and will eventually be Head of the Joint chiefs.....much like Colin Powell. Ike did pretty well.  ::)
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Post by: Decker on October 29, 2008, 02:25:27 PM
He commanded an entire Air Assult Div in 2003 and won a losing war in 2006-2008, now he heads CENTCOM and will eventually be Head of the Joint chiefs.....much like Colin Powell. Ike did pretty well.  ::)
The presidency is nothing like military governance.

Ike did well?  How about President Grant?
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Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2008, 02:48:43 PM
Why would you think that?

The only thing Petraeus's experience indicates is that he can command a division.  That's not the presidency.  That's something entirely different. 

It's not entirely different when it comes to being Commander in Chief. 
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 29, 2008, 02:54:37 PM
The presidency is nothing like military governance.

Ike did well?  How about President Grant?

Being as we were still trying to put back the country after a Civil war..not so good but then I'm not about to try and go back that far. Ike did fine...whats the problem.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 05:13:54 AM
No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.

ok i take that as a yes, i see you have swallowed all of their lies and propaganda. america is doing a good job in creating a new generation of terrorists.
success in the war against terrorism? killing thousands of innocent people to solve a problem you in part created yourself? and hey the last 8 years have been real successful years for the republicans.ehh?.lol....zero understanding of the outside world. congrats for fucking up america too.

and all this lib talk basically says your just as fundamentalist as those crazy ass muslim fundamentalists....same kind of mentality, different religions.
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Post by: garebear on October 30, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.

You're quite the realist. Wouldn't you say?
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Post by: Decker on October 30, 2008, 06:54:04 AM
Being as we were still trying to put back the country after a Civil war..not so good but then I'm not about to try and go back that far. Ike did fine...whats the problem.
The problem is that military leadership does indicate fitness for the presidency.  They are 2 different animals with different demands.
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Post by: mogulgangi on October 30, 2008, 06:54:49 AM
Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama -  :o :o ???

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!


thank god someone else besides me has a brain....good thinking my man....only problem, if obama gets elected and we go to war...THERE WILL BE A DRAFT...gotta prevent that
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Post by: mogulgangi on October 30, 2008, 07:01:34 AM
I've voted republican my whole life... until now.

This repub ticket is a clusterfvck, let's be honest.

People mostly support McCain becuase they hate Obama so bad.

They refuse to admit they're trying to elect a senile old man on drugs, and a dim religious zealout in Palin.




Okay, back to ignoring politics for a week for me  ;D

ive voted democrat up until this election...im not voting for mccain because i hate obama...Obama is a great person..connects with people in a different level BUT...u cant pik someone like OBAMA when we are fighting a war and we are in a crisis that we are in now....this is the most important presidental election of all time(as im pretty sure u know) ..u cant just hand it to someone who has never had power in his life....impossible...i would vote for obama in a diff period..but not this one...i dont care who does what and what candidate is going to do what...all that matter is that you have to choose experience over new talent....

if u were a nfl team..and u had the first round pik....ur team is shit, ur not makin money, ur about to sell it offf....who are u going to choose....the guy that runs a 4.5, benches a billion poounds with no actual playing time in his carrer.....or the the guy who isnt as athletic but has put it on the line year after year, knows what to do in time of pressure, and knows where to go when there is walls closing him in.and is a proven winner...u choose the guy that has been thru it all ....simple..u dont gamble in bad times...


there is no way u can tell me this analogy has to intelligence behind it

fuk off haters....
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Post by: mogulgangi on October 30, 2008, 07:04:30 AM
Mccain lives in fuzzy bunny land.

he said he'll chase Bin laden to the gates of hell...

but he refuses to cross the pakistan border and kill him in the cave he's hiding in.


pretty nasty person u are.....u may not like mccain, but him respect for the pure fact hes been a patriot since the day he was born.....has put his life on the line for the security of this country......
i know u dont have the balls to do that...
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Post by: Option D on October 30, 2008, 07:27:12 AM

pretty nasty person u are.....u may not like mccain, but him respect for the pure fact hes been a patriot since the day he was born.....has put his life on the line for the security of this country......
i know u dont have the balls to do that...

So has my father who has been in 3 tours in NAM dont make him qualified to be president...
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 07:28:41 AM
Its part of the bigger picture....McCain served in Vietnam, served in Congress for a long time...big picture...just like the small and murky picture Obama projects.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 07:39:22 AM
ive voted democrat up until this election...im not voting for mccain because i hate obama...Obama is a great person..connects with people in a different level BUT...u cant pik someone like OBAMA when we are fighting a war and we are in a crisis that we are in now....this is the most important presidental election of all time(as im pretty sure u know) ..u cant just hand it to someone who has never had power in his life....impossible...i would vote for obama in a diff period..but not this one...i dont care who does what and what candidate is going to do what...all that matter is that you have to choose experience over new talent....

if u were a nfl team..and u had the first round pik....ur team is shit, ur not makin money, ur about to sell it offf....who are u going to choose....the guy that runs a 4.5, benches a billion poounds with no actual playing time in his carrer.....or the the guy who isnt as athletic but has put it on the line year after year, knows what to do in time of pressure, and knows where to go when there is walls closing him in.and is a proven winner...u choose the guy that has been thru it all ....simple..u dont gamble in bad times...


there is no way u can tell me this analogy has to intelligence behind it

fuk off haters....

there are generals and advisors...and maybe obama can actually avoid more wars.  ::)

and there are more aspects to being a president than murdering innocent people. the republicans need to stop with using their cynical PUSH-PULL strategies on the election.

and your analogy is moronic. but ill use it some more: lets put all of our cards on a 73 year old running back lol.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 07:43:27 AM
Its part of the bigger picture....McCain served in Vietnam, served in Congress for a long time...


if you want experience why dont you dig up some 97 year old ww2 veteran while your at it?

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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 08:07:59 AM
Obama is a naive idiot who lacks experience...I've been deployed twice...really have'nt seen to many murdered people unless u count all the people the shitbags have killed. Most American troops don't go around murdering people. And since u haven't been there I'd say u have no idea what ur talking about beyond what u see on TV or read on the net.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 08:15:44 AM
Obama is a naive idiot who lacks experience...I've been deployed twice...really have'nt seen to many murdered people unless u count all the people the shitbags have killed. Most American troops don't go around murdering people. And since u haven't been there I'd say u have no idea what ur talking about beyond what u see on TV or read on the net.

who is being naive?  :D

who invaded IRAQ on false pretenses? usa. thus america is responsible for 100 000s of killed people, many of them innocent. and they have increased the hate against america and created more terrorists. thats REALITY , but i guess you wouldnt know that sitting in your trailer park  watching Fox news .

vote OBAMA.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 08:19:44 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/c/O/2/mccain-bush-tongue.jpg)
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 08:20:33 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/O/2/mccain-tongue-animated.gif)
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 08:26:38 AM
who is being naive?  :D

who invaded IRAQ on false pretenses? usa. thus america is responsible for 100 000s of killed people, many of them innocent. and they have increased the hate against america and created more terrorists. thats REALITY , but i guess you wouldnt know that sitting in your trailer park  watching Fox news .

vote OBAMA.
Dude, I was there in 2003..where were u..middle school. We're already hated...but u should know that reading ur lib playbook of anti-American bullshit...but thats ok be a good little dipshit and pay ur taxes.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 08:47:03 AM
Dude, I was there in 2003..where were u..middle school. We're already hated...but u should know that reading ur lib playbook of anti-American bullshit...but thats ok be a good little dipshit and pay ur taxes.

aha you're one of the brainwashed murderers...

are you saying you dont pay any taxes? are you saying that 100 000s of people havent been killed in Iraq? are you saying that bush have made you more popular around the world?  :D

so why dont you run along now and go hunt cats with your uncle bubba mendelson, using that AK-47 you need for self defense.


(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/O/2/mctongue-pic-1.jpg)
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 08:51:57 AM
aha you're one of the brainwashed murderers...

are you saying you dont pay any taxes? are you saying that 100 000s of people havent been killed in Iraq? are you saying that bush have made you more popular around the world?  :D

so why dont you run along now and go hunt cats with your uncle bubba mendelson, using that AK-47 you need for self defense.


(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/C/O/2/mctongue-pic-1.jpg)

Brainwashed murders...waaaaaaa...Bus h Lied people died.....waaaaaaaa...... .100,000's pf people died..um no but waaaaaaaaaaaa just the same. Oh and Obama is going to save us...gimme a break. They want him because he's weak and pliable . I don't hunt...I love animals...douchbag libs on the other hand. ;D  AK-47? I carry an M-4...u must be thinking of ur communist brothers. Not that the AK isn't a good weapon but....I'm an American.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 09:02:10 AM
Brainwashed murders...waaaaaaa...Bus h Lied people died.....waaaaaaaa...... .100,000's pf people died..um no but waaaaaaaaaaaa just the same. Oh and Obama is going to save us...gimme a break. They want him because he's weak and pliable . I don't hunt...I love animals...douchbag libs on the other hand. ;D  AK-47? I carry an M-4...u must be thinking of ur communist brothers. Not that the AK isn't a good weapon but....I'm an American.

wow you carry an M-4? so how many Iraqis have you 'liberated' with it?   ::)

thats a nice poem ill remember it: bush lied people died. thanks for summarizing it so nicely  ;D

who is 'they'....seems like alot of americans agree with 'they'.....with your pull-push reasoning a majority of americans must be terrorist then lol...(hey if your not with us your against us ehh? )


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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 09:06:55 AM
Actually when i was in Iraq i was strapped to an M1A1 MBT, actually I commanded an entire company...I carried the M-4 in Afghanistan.To paraphrase Pacino in Scarface...I never fucked over anybody who didn't have it coming to em. The They are worried about their pocket books...I don't blame most of them.
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2008, 09:11:46 AM
HH6 is one of my favorite members here. 

His POV, being in the field of a place we only see on CNN, is definitely appreciated.

He has a maturity most of us dont.  And he does seem very cold to it all.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 09:15:12 AM
HH6 is one of my favorite members here. 

His POV, being in the field of a place we only see on CNN, is definitely appreciated.

He has a maturity most of us dont.  And he does seem very cold to it all.

why dont you give him your watch and then steal it back.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 09:17:27 AM
Animals...wanna see me get emotional and upset..hit a dog. I love 240...he works very very very hard to prove his points, generally doesn't stoop to name calling or atleats waits a few pages on a thread to melt, as do the more normal folks here.
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Post by: OzmO on October 30, 2008, 09:20:05 AM
HH6 is one of my favorite members here. 

His POV, being in the field of a place we only see on CNN, is definitely appreciated.

He has a maturity most of us dont.  And he does seem very cold to it all.

HH6 is good guy, although i think he gets carried away with his disdain for libs to the point of fantasy too much.  But i let him know about it when he does.   ;D
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Post by: OzmO on October 30, 2008, 09:21:50 AM
Actually when i was in Iraq i was strapped to an M1A1 MBT, actually I commanded an entire company...I carried the M-4 in Afghanistan.To paraphrase Pacino in Scarface...I never fucked over anybody who didn't have it coming to em. The They are worried about their pocket books...I don't blame most of them.

You fvcker, a whole company?   My god.   I bet you'd would have loved to run into 4 companies of t-72's  lol.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 09:26:41 AM
They really didn't come out to play much.....we were in the middle of the pack during the push to Bagdad...several times we got pushed forward when lead elements of 3rd ID went black on ammo from engaging to much shit. My boys smoked a couple...I think 2 tanks moving several parked...I got a few trucks and some dismounts...nothing close. Keeping track of armor on urban terrain is like herding cats and I spent more time on the radio trying to figure out what the hell was going on. My crew fought the tank and did a great job.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 30, 2008, 09:32:01 AM
They really didn't come out to play much.....we were in the middle of the pack during the push to Bagdad...several times we got pushed forward when lead elements of 3rd ID went black on ammo from engaging to much shit. My boys smoked a couple...I think 2 tanks moving several parked...I got a few trucks and some dismounts...nothing close. Keeping track of armor on urban terrain is like herding cats and I spent more time on the radio trying to figure out what the hell was going on. My crew fought the tank and did a great job.


rambo is in the building  ::)  bragging about an 'illegal' war......a guy who supposedly doesnt kill animals yet is down in iraq slaughtering innocent people. what a hypocrite...

im not surprised tho...what do you expect from an american?  :D
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 30, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
I think he sees libs as unappreciative of the wetworks the military really has to do to ensure their way of life.

he knows its about oil and big business, but he accepts it as his job and has no problem killing shit.

at the same time, he's a patriot... he believes in God and the constitution.

He has a mature mindset that I don't.
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Post by: CQ on October 30, 2008, 11:20:24 AM
who invaded IRAQ on false pretenses? usa. thus america is responsible for 100 000s of killed people, many of them innocent. and they have increased the hate against america and created more terrorists. thats REALITY ,

Pretty much. Invade and kill people, then have the unmitigated gall to refer to people defending their own soil as terrorists. :-\

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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 30, 2008, 07:11:18 PM
Let's all stop arguing with "slavetocock".. he has obviously done no research into the origins and history of the palestinian-israeli issue.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 07:16:18 PM
Yup...hey 240...i barely mention god and stay far away from the "god" board for a reason. Everything else was spot on.

Hey slave...I'm neither Rambo nor brag about the war in anyway. I do carry on about what iI know but thats because i happen to be in a slot that allows me to know whats going on. And no i don't kill animals...I have dogs and they're great people. In fact I've had better and more intelligent conversations with my Golden then I'm having with u.  And after all this ur not even an American? If so I apologize to my fellow getbiggers for wasting internet space....
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Post by: drkaje on October 30, 2008, 07:22:35 PM
HH6 is our boy!!

He may be 'special needs' and we disagree on many things but he's one of us after all the arguing is done.
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Post by: w8tlftr on October 30, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
HH6 is our boy!!

He may be 'special needs' and we disagree on many things but he's one of us after all the arguing is done.

TRUTH

And I do agree with the special needs part.... he's a Patriots fan.  ;D



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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
Yes..i need my qb back...i need a secondary not made of hobbits....yep I have alot of needs.
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Post by: drkaje on October 30, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
TRUTH

And I do agree with the special needs part.... he's a Patriots fan.  ;D





Don't get me going on the friggin' Patriots. Those idiots had the chance to make history and choked.
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Post by: headhuntersix on October 30, 2008, 07:35:30 PM
Yes..yes they did....don't get me started. I am almost at peace with it.
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Post by: drkaje on October 30, 2008, 08:08:25 PM
Yes..yes they did....don't get me started. I am almost at peace with it.

Like the Bills fans I know will ever get over losing 4 times in a row, LOL!

But the Pats friggin blew it. QB was calm, cool and collected until the very end I almost thought he was going to pull it off..... dirty guy actually had ME believing they could make one more good play. >:(
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Post by: garebear on October 30, 2008, 11:19:33 PM
Yup...hey 240...i barely mention god and stay far away from the "god" board for a reason. Everything else was spot on.

Hey slave...I'm neither Rambo nor brag about the war in anyway. I do carry on about what iI know but thats because i happen to be in a slot that allows me to know whats going on. And no i don't kill animals...I have dogs and they're great people. In fact I've had better and more intelligent conversations with my Golden then I'm having with u.  And after all this ur not even an American? If so I apologize to my fellow getbiggers for wasting internet space....
????????????????????
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 31, 2008, 05:37:07 AM
Let's all stop arguing with "slavetocock".. he has obviously done no research into the origins and history of the palestinian-israeli issue.

i guess you cant accept anyone calling you out on your murderous hypocrisy.   8)
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 31, 2008, 05:48:43 AM
Yup...hey 240...i barely mention god and stay far away from the "god" board for a reason. Everything else was spot on.

Hey slave...I'm neither Rambo nor brag about the war in anyway. I do carry on about what iI know but thats because i happen to be in a slot that allows me to know whats going on. And no i don't kill animals...I have dogs and they're great people. In fact I've had better and more intelligent conversations with my Golden then I'm having with u.  And after all this ur not even an American? If so I apologize to my fellow getbiggers for wasting internet space....

well, murder INC, why dont you go back to talking to your golden retriever then? as for the other stuff, you have no understanding of the big picture and totally lack the ability to look at a problem from many perspectives. obviously just a brainswashed foot soldier who is now bragging about terrorizing innocent civilians.


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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on October 31, 2008, 08:28:49 AM
i guess you can accept anyone calling you out on your murderous hypocrisy.   8)

Where? When?

Israel doesn't commit terrorism.  Palenstinians do.  Plain as english. 

The "Palestinian State" is proof that leftists turn a blind eye to those who purposefully murder women and children as a means of negotiation.
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Post by: Decker on October 31, 2008, 08:32:46 AM
Where? When?

Israel doesn't commit terrorism.  Palenstinians do.  Plain as english. 

The "Palestinian State" is proof that leftists turn a blind eye to those who purposefully murder women and children as a means of negotiation.
Are you being ironical?
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Post by: drkaje on October 31, 2008, 10:14:06 AM
Where? When?

Israel doesn't commit terrorism.  Palenstinians do.  Plain as english. 

The "Palestinian State" is proof that leftists turn a blind eye to those who purposefully murder women and children as a means of negotiation.

You wouldn't mind the UN giving away your home?
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Post by: w8tlftr on October 31, 2008, 02:26:40 PM
You wouldn't mind the UN giving away your home?

Throw them all into a cage fight. We can make it one of the biggest PPV events ever.

Winner take all.

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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 31, 2008, 02:39:25 PM
Where? When?

Israel doesn't commit terrorism.  Palenstinians do.  Plain as english. 

The "Palestinian State" is proof that leftists turn a blind eye to those who purposefully murder women and children as a means of negotiation.

israel commits terrorism. so does usa.

once again epic hypocrisy.

usa can give california to the jews and force away all americans (non jewish) from there. lets see what the californians say. and if they fight back they are terrorists.
everyone who opposes usa is a terrorist.  ::)
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Post by: drkaje on October 31, 2008, 02:40:43 PM

everyone who opposes usa is a terrorist.  ::)

You finally get it.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 31, 2008, 02:43:19 PM
You finally get it.

nope.
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Post by: CQ on October 31, 2008, 03:02:56 PM
israel commits terrorism. so does usa.

once again epic hypocrisy.

usa can give california to the jews and force away all americans (non jewish) from there. lets see what the californians say. and if they fight back they are terrorists.

Exactly, I am sure people would be pissed if they were forced out of their homes, but somehow no - the people who got forced out are terrorists ::)

everyone who opposes usa is a terrorist.  ::)

In this past week the USA has bombed where - Iraq, Afganistan, Syria and Pakistan. Now if Pakistan comes and bombs Idaho, or Syria bombs Seattle - they'll be "terrorists", even the the USA bombs and invades without compunction and always has.

The man who bombed the Caribbean for years and blew up a plane is offered the protection of the USA and lives there free, literally.

Terrorism by popular anglo-definition appears to be anyone who opposes the USA, not anyone who commits bad acts.
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Post by: slaveboy1980 on October 31, 2008, 03:18:47 PM
Exactly, I am sure people would be pissed if they were forced out of their homes, but somehow no - the people who got forced out are terrorists ::)

In this past week the USA has bombed where - Iraq, Afganistan, Syria and Pakistan. Now if Pakistan comes and bombs Idaho, or Syria bombs Seattle - they'll be "terrorists", even the the USA bombs and invades without compunction and always has.

The man who bombed the Caribbean for years and blew up a plane is offered the protection of the USA and lives there free, literally.

Terrorism by popular anglo-definition appears to be anyone who opposes the USA, not anyone who commits bad acts.

in human history, there has never been such a propaganda machine as USA.



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Post by: Brixtonbulldog on November 01, 2008, 08:21:13 AM
israel commits terrorism. so does usa.

once again epic hypocrisy.

usa can give california to the jews and force away all americans (non jewish) from there. lets see what the californians say. and if they fight back they are terrorists.
everyone who opposes usa is a terrorist.  ::)

Niether the US nor Israel commit terrorism assbag and your analogy only shows your ignorance of the situation.

Britain had complete control over the land before it established the state.  When the Jews were settled it was in uninhabited areas away from the few nomadic sheep herding tribes that were in the area.  Almost ALL of the land was desolate and unpopulated.

In addition to that, once the settlements made the land fertile and began to prosper that arabs in the area FLOCKED to those areas to do business and live with the jews and they were welcomed.  Both peoples lived without issue until later years when Islamic extremism began creeping into the arab communities.  Only when they began bombing and shelling civilian jewish communities did they begin to seperate.  They were not "kicked out" but began active segregation in attempt to isolate themselves and push jews out of areas they now dominated.

Now they lay false claim to the land that they have never owned in any way.  Aside from that they consider terrorism a perfectly acceptable means of negotiation.  It's nothing but pure hatred and islamic extremism that caused the entire conflict.
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Post by: drkaje on November 01, 2008, 11:28:32 AM
Niether the US nor Israel commit terrorism assbag and your analogy only shows your ignorance of the situation.

Britain had complete control over the land before it established the state.  When the Jews were settled it was in uninhabited areas away from the few nomadic sheep herding tribes that were in the area.  Almost ALL of the land was desolate and unpopulated.

In addition to that, once the settlements made the land fertile and began to prosper that arabs in the area FLOCKED to those areas to do business and live with the jews and they were welcomed.  Both peoples lived without issue until later years when Islamic extremism began creeping into the arab communities.  Only when they began bombing and shelling civilian jewish communities did they begin to seperate.  They were not "kicked out" but began active segregation in attempt to isolate themselves and push jews out of areas they now dominated.

Now they lay false claim to the land that they have never owned in any way.  Aside from that they consider terrorism a perfectly acceptable means of negotiation.  It's nothing but pure hatred and islamic extremism that caused the entire conflict.

LOL!