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Title: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 05, 2008, 11:53:26 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: marcus on December 05, 2008, 11:56:47 PM
Are you gonna hit the sauce and enter Mr Getbig 4?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: SquatAss on December 05, 2008, 11:57:35 PM
What you are is pretty fucking dellusional.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:00:43 AM
Cut down your arms will be 17 tops..
Im not sure if you should diet down then jump on the gear or jump on now then diet back down again..
If you got on the juice and added 30 pounds 10-15 of that will be more fat.I think your bf % is to high now..
So diet it off then juice  :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Well considering there's guys that weigh 145lbs that get a pro card each year, i'd have to agree with you.  ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:03:17 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.


Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:05:08 AM
Well considering there's guys that weigh 145lbs that get a pro card each year, i'd have to agree with you.  ;D
Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:06:16 AM
Cut down your arms will be 17 tops..
Im not sure if you should diet down then jump on the gear or jump on now then diet back down again..
If you got on the juice and added 30 pounds 10-15 of that will be more fat.I think your bf % is to high now..
So diet it off then juice  :)

I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:06:26 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.



Im not hating bro..I think you are a big powerfull guy but really when talking bodybuilding you cant flex fat sorry mate.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:07:05 AM
I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.
Do it then  :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 12:07:15 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.




Lookin big Alex. You'd have quite a bit of muscle for a natural pro.  ;)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 06, 2008, 12:08:02 AM
Explore your potential bro! Do whatever it takes and see where that takes you!

Good luck in your journey
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Post by: Karl Kox on December 06, 2008, 12:08:25 AM
Looking good man. All the way big dude
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:10:07 AM
Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.

Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)



Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Karl Kox on December 06, 2008, 12:11:28 AM
nice size
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 06, 2008, 12:12:04 AM
Nowhere near the size of Coleman and Ruhl, the greatest naturals ever.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 06, 2008, 12:12:29 AM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

just curious alex, what do u want to get at the end of this "experiment"???
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Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:12:40 AM
Yes , but alex @ 5% would proberly close to 180 anyway.his bf is very high.
Not hating on him , but people really should chuck the scale out the window..lighter guys would destroy him with better over all condition.

Yeah I was just kiddin. I know those 145lb guys get in great condition, and usually have really good physiques. But you're right, weight isn't the biggest factor when it comes to being the best bodybuilder. Look at how many random pictures of foreign freaks you see posted on these forums, then you see them onstage and it's a whole different ball game.

Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:13:21 AM
Explore your potential bro! Do whatever it takes and see where that takes you!

Good luck in your journey

Lookin big Alex. You'd have quite a bit of muscle for a natural pro.  ;)

Thanks brothers of Iron and Sushi.

What kind of gain should I expect from a chemical enhancement? Yes, the "fat" is obvious but the juicy cells screaming to grow is too. Wouldn't those receptors suck it in and do their job?

I'm expecting 20" arms pretty dry; I'm already 19" and barely training, got married and being eating shit all month...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 12:13:36 AM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)





For a natural you're huge, Alex. Huge chest, too. That's what most guys want more than anything.  ;)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:15:42 AM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)




Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:15:48 AM
just curious alex, what do u want to get at the end of this "experiment"???

Simple my brother; Look like a cartoon character, wear XXXL no questions asked. Have the "freak" tag on my back, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure I can.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: m8 on December 06, 2008, 12:15:57 AM
I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.

synthol
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: marcus on December 06, 2008, 12:17:16 AM
Simple my brother; Look like a cartoon character, wear XXXL no questions asked. Have the "freak" tag on my back, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure I can.

You would make good money on the side at g4p parties.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:17:30 AM
Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  :)

Thanks Will, appreciate your honest, you're being fair and balanced mate.

But doesn't arms blow pretty good once "enhanced"? would my "fat"  19 inchers become fat 20"+ then cut down?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 06, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)






LMAO! That's lean? Not to mention you deflate like a bitch, you look half the size compared to the 245 pictures.
Just imagine how tiny you would be at 13%BF.

And those slopping delts and small arms would be your fatality blow, you will look like a 60 year old un-juiced version of Kamali, big rib cage and nothing more.

Didn't you try to diet? I remember you posted a few months back how you failed and quit then you suddenly started thinking that being lean is gay....pathetic.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:20:05 AM
BRB, gotta grab another couple of beers (I love and enjoy life)

More to come.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 06, 2008, 12:23:08 AM
Simple my brother; Look like a cartoon character, wear XXXL no questions asked. Have the "freak" tag on my back, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure I can.

yep im sure u can do that as well.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:23:47 AM
Thanks Will, appreciate your honest, you're being fair and balanced mate.

But doesn't arms blow pretty good once "enhanced"? would my "fat"  19 inchers become fat 20"+ then cut down?
You actualy look "enhanced" in this pic  ;D.
I can see why you have had the not natural chucked at you before.
When gaining "size" on gear you still have to add bf,but you already seem pretty versed in how that stuff works , isnt your sister an endocrinoligist(spelling?)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:24:55 AM
I hope to be close to pro size within 4 years.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
yep im sure u can do that as well.

Thanks Flex.

Let the experiment begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All, PM me for sources ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:27:21 AM
I hope to be close to pro size within 4 years.

Good luck CM. Hope you even reach it before that!!!!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:29:14 AM
Mate if you are indeed natural here you would look insane with "enhancement"
Chest would be freaky for sure  :o
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:29:48 AM
Good luck CM. Hope you even reach it before that!!!!

Thanks man, same to you. I'm 215 at 5'6 right now, so I think that's some decent size for a teenager... I just need some time.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:30:19 AM
Mate if you are indeed natural here you would look insane with "enhancement"
Chest would be freaky for sure  :o


Thanks Will. What would you suggest?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 12:31:49 AM
Thanks Will. What would you suggest?
Talk to Jim/Disgusted  ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:33:26 AM
Thanks man, same to you. I'm 215 at 5'6 right now, so I think that's some decent size for a teenager... I just need some time.

Being a teenager in the 215 range is pretty amazing. Any pics? Ever competed?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:36:36 AM
Being a teenager in the 215 range is pretty amazing. Any pics? Ever competed?

Here they are. I'd like to compete in November 2010, so basically 2 years from this month. The one of me in the baige shirt is from august 2006 so you can see how my progress has been in just 2 years.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: nycbull on December 06, 2008, 12:36:50 AM
when is your 'wife' going to redecorate your house to make it more girlie?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 12:40:26 AM
I posted 'em in the arm thread, but here they are again. I'd like to compete in November 2010, so basically 2 years from this month. The one of me in the baige shirt is from august 2006 so you can see how my progress has been in just 2 years.


Oh I've seen your pics before.... crazy proportion. Crazy gains too! You look like a young lad so gains are even yet to come ;D.

Those arms and shoulders are huge. You're like a young me, even bigger!


Here's me at 16.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/alex16.jpg)






Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: gracie bjj on December 06, 2008, 12:40:40 AM
you look big and thick bro but if i was you id drop about 25 or 30 lbs,you will look twice as big if you did that imo,if you do it slow and lose about 1 lb aweek and mantain your good size you would look really good bro,you got the raw material to do it and really look freaky imo
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:45:36 AM
Oh I've seen your pics before.... crazy proportion. Crazy gains too! You look like a young lad so gains are even yet to come ;D.

Those arms and shoulders are huge. You're like a young me, even bigger!


Here's me at 16.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/alex16.jpg)








Thanks man, means alot comin from a big guy like you. I was gonna say our structures look somewhat similar through the traps/delts. Yeah at 16 i wasn't even in a gym yet lol. That pic of me in the t-shirt was about a month before I started training.
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Post by: L00n on December 06, 2008, 12:54:34 AM
delts and arms look small comapre to that huge chest!
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Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 12:55:52 AM
Did you ever do any shows Alex, or thinking about doing some in the future?
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Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:02:09 AM
Did you ever do any shows Alex, or thinking about doing some in the future?

I did one when I was 19yo.. didn't even dieted, showed up and got second place; no classes nothing; Here's the guy who "beat" me; a friend of mine; we both won our classes in Judo at the Nationals that year as well ;D


I'm thinking about it but realize how chemical the game is. I usually play to win but I weighting the 'rulez' right now ;D
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Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 01:12:26 AM
I did one when I was 19yo.. didn't even dieted, showed up and got second place; no classes nothing; Here's the guy who "beat" me; a friend of mine; we both won our classes in Judo at the Nationals that year as well ;D


I'm thinking about it but realize how chemical the game is. I usually play to win but I weighting the 'rulez' right now ;D

Good stuff man. Is that guy a pro now?

Yeah i'll have some decisions to make in the next couple years. I have a goal to win the Canadian Nationals someday and I know what it'll take to get there... I don't even really care about competing as a pro or anything, I just want to be the best amateur in Canada. I'm an all or nothing kind've guy in general, so I think that's where this comes from.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:16:07 AM
Good stuff man. Is that guy a pro now?

Yeah i'll have some decisions to make in the next couple years. I have a goal to win the Canadian Nationals someday and I know what it'll take to get there... I don't even really care about competing as a pro or anything, I just want to be the best amateur in Canada. I'm an all or nothing kind've guy in general, so I think that's where this comes from.


Nah, JD Roy didn't turn pro yet; this was in '06; when in the same day he won Mr Montreal and the Provincial Overall. Quite an Athlete.

You seem very focused yet very selective. You will do well.


Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 06, 2008, 01:20:14 AM
You carry a lot of mass. You can always get a bit leaner and hold it but it's up to you if you like that.

If you are thinking about juicing i would say do it if you want to compete. Or improve yourself to another level. You could probably use it just to diet down and get very good results, clean out when you are not dieting. This works very well.
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Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 01:22:26 AM

Nah, JD Roy didn't turn pro yet; this was in '06; when in the same day he won Mr Montreal and the Provincial Overall. Quite an Athlete.

You seem very focused yet very selective. You will do well.




He looks alot like Roland Kickinger in that second photo.

Thank you, I hope so. I'll always remember my hockey coach saying "You'll always be small, it's the way it is". It's a good motivator.  :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:27:43 AM
He looks alot like Roland Kickinger in that second photo.

Thank you, I hope so. I'll always remember my hockey coach saying "You'll always be small, it's the way it is". It's a good motivator.  :)

He does look like Roland.

Hahahaha, pretty soon, you will shoulder bump that same coach, he'll turn around and look at the floor ;D

I had a coach like that too playing Bantam AA back in the days. I fucked his daughter and never called her back ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 01:29:53 AM
He does look like Roland.

Hahahaha, pretty soon, you will shoulder bump that same coach, he'll turn around and look at the floor ;D

I had a coach like that too playing Bantam AA back in the days. I fucked his daughter and never called her back ;D

lmao, yeah i hope to run into him sometime. You just gave me a great idea btw  :D
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Post by: gib on December 06, 2008, 01:34:02 AM
Alex - you have a pretty decent base. If you are 100% natural to date, I would say you should definately try a cycle. Bring down the body fat slowly during the course of the cycle while building muscle. And lets us see your pics once you are done.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:37:31 AM
Alex - you have a pretty decent base. If you are 100% natural to date, I would say you should definately try a cycle. Bring down the body fat slowly during the course of the cycle while building muscle. And lets us see your pics once you are done.

Is is possible to shed fat and build mass at the same time while on?
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Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 01:48:14 AM
Is is possible to shed fat and build mass at the same time while on?

I would help you, but I don't know anything about the drugs.

All I know is that you want to master the post cycle therapy part in order to avoid gyno.

I tried to order superdrol once through a local store, but it got banned exactly then and they couldn't order it. I heard about masteron researching superdrol. I read that you can gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously on it, that's why many people use it while cutting for a show.... After more research I decided against taking anything.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:48:48 AM
I heard masteron would do it. That's all I know.

;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 01:50:49 AM
;D

I heard many use it while conditioning for this very reason. That's all I heard.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: gib on December 06, 2008, 01:51:27 AM
Definately!

If you can get hold of a testosterone (eg Sustanon) and then take that stacked with an oral such as dbol, and train hard, eat well, you will very likely get really huge muscle gains with fat reducing naturally. Just monitor it over the period of your cycle, and aim to get it down slowly. If needed, you could add in 15-20 mins cardio before some of your workouts (its both a good warm-up, and a good way to lean up).



Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 06, 2008, 01:52:19 AM
Thanks guys, all good advice. I think I'm ready.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 01:53:31 AM
Definately!

If you can get hold of a testosterone (eg Sustanon) and then take that stacked with an oral such as dbol, and train hard, eat well, you will very likely get really huge muscle gains with fat reducing naturally. Just monitor it over the period of your cycle, and aim to get it down slowly. If needed, you could add in 15-20 mins cardio before some of your workouts (its both a good warm-up, and a good way to lean up).




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Post by: powerpack on December 06, 2008, 02:12:46 AM
If your are a natty I am very impressed  8)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: hazbin on December 06, 2008, 02:41:11 AM
you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Gino30 on December 06, 2008, 02:41:27 AM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

and we care in what way?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on December 06, 2008, 02:52:09 AM
you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.

 :o That does look like Alex...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Bobby on December 06, 2008, 03:36:33 AM
Thanks Flex.

Let the experiment begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All, PM me for sources ;D

there was a change of heart ???

Let's see...

  • 20-25hrs a week spent in the gym/cardio/driving to that 'gym'
  • countless hours cooking shit (I don't get this one)
  • Devoted posting on getbig
  • Getting eyebrows done to look good when attending local shows
  • ~200$/month on "supplements"
  • ~300-500$/month on drugs
  • ~100$/month on Otomix and other senseless 'bodybuilding' clothing (oh brother)
  • 200-300$ spend on "gurus" of all kinds

Another way to use all this free time and resources:

Get an MBA (5-10hrs a week part time!)
Work on a business plan, Develop a new product
Put extra time at work, get ahead and get promoted
Research and Invest (real estate, stock market...)
Tutor your kids or mentor one through big brother program
Teach at your local community college
Buy a camera and schmoe every other weekend of the year at bb shows and get paid doing it...

The list is endless...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=249922.0

you achieved the first one so now it's on to the other?



On a more serious note: If you're natural now you don't need drugs. You have more than enough size (unless you want to go pro) what you need is a diet that makes you lean. you have the size, cuts is what's missing.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 06, 2008, 04:36:25 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251166.0;attach=291308;image)

thats not alex.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 06, 2008, 04:51:47 AM
looking great alex
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 06, 2008, 04:56:15 AM
I'm expecting 20" arms pretty dry; I'm already 19" and barely training, got married and being eating shit all month...

Yes, you would have bigger arms than Arnold after one cycle, and you're shorter too!  ::)

Actually, your arms are a weak bodypart compared to the rest of you. That's not hate, it's just obvious from the pics. Even on the best of stacks you'd be a light heavy at best, if dieted down for a show from that starting point, like I said once. Not a heavy like you thought. Arms maybe 17.5 or so if lucky. We didn't find out if I was right since you backed out of the show you were supposed to do.  :D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: dr.chimps on December 06, 2008, 04:59:07 AM
you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.
That's not 'Sadistic' Steve!    ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DK II on December 06, 2008, 05:02:41 AM
Alex, no hating, but you're delusional. Diet down you fat fuck. ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Method101 on December 06, 2008, 05:08:53 AM
Thanks guys, all good advice. I think I'm ready.
Alex, we all know you aint going to go on the juice, you just got married etc. why are you talking all this bullshit here?

Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 06, 2008, 05:39:35 AM
Alex, we all know you aint going to go on the juice, you just got married etc. why are you talking all this bullshit here?



Attention whore? Just like him claiming to fuck his boss dailly at one thread and talking about marriage at the other...no life= lots of stories.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: _bruce_ on December 06, 2008, 05:44:43 AM
Looking great - nearly optimal.
A little bit more size on the arms would be great.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: QuakerOats on December 06, 2008, 05:50:35 AM
Alex is a big dude but "close to pro size", man i need some of what he's smoking. :D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: tleilaxutank on December 06, 2008, 05:56:11 AM
If you are natural; stay that way..

You seem to be plenty successful in life and have a good build...the only reason to "up the ante" at this point would be due to some feeling of inadequacy.  What troubles you, bro?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: JasonH on December 06, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
From his pics, Alex23 seems to be the classic mesomorph - very thick structure (especially in the torso region) and probably naturally strong. It's guys like these that I would like to meet from Getbig in real life just to see how I measure up - we're the same height - 5'10", but I'm not a mesomorph - naturally quite skinny with small joints but I have decent muscle shape. I weigh around 235 so our weights are similiar. However, my bodyfat is around 12-15% at the moment.

My advice to Alex - diet down a bit - lose a lot of that gut because you're actually carrying a lot more fat than you think you are - I thought I was "close to pro size" too until I went to the Mr Olympia this year and even some of the amateur physiques I saw put me to shame - you're never as big as you realise!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Marty Champions on December 06, 2008, 06:30:56 AM
alexx where you on creatine in these photos?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)

seems liek creatine is teh cey
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DK II on December 06, 2008, 06:37:38 AM
only muscletech.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 06:49:55 AM
You're huge and in ten times the shape of every fanboy detractor you have on this board (not to forget your both educated and have a successful career...something none of these fools can even comment on).
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: danielson on December 06, 2008, 06:55:33 AM
He is way bigger than a lot of pros. Lee Priest is a tiny little fucker, he can't be more than a buck forty.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DK II on December 06, 2008, 06:57:53 AM
well, one thing is sure, he is a lot bigger than most pros would be off the sauce.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:01:26 AM
From his pics, Alex23 seems to be the classic mesomorph - very thick structure (especially in the torso region) and probably naturally strong. It's guys like these that I would like to meet from Getbig in real life just to see how I measure up - we're the same height - 5'10", but I'm not a mesomorph - naturally quite skinny with small joints but I have decent muscle shape. I weigh around 235 so our weights are similiar. However, my bodyfat is around 12-15% at the moment.

My advice to Alex - diet down a bit - lose a lot of that gut because you're actually carrying a lot more fat than you think you are - I thought I was "close to pro size" too until I went to the Mr Olympia this year and even some of the amateur physiques I saw put me to shame - you're never as big as you realise!

This is of course just my opinion, but comparing yourself to the drug-abusing genetic elite of the world is no basis for comparision.....of course they're superior.   If I'm gonna make a comparison it's how I shake out with those in the everyday gyms I train in...that's the world.....that's the measuring stick.  There's always someone bigger and stronger, but if you get to the point where the only next logical comparison is the elite class of "bigger and stronger" or all anyone can say to you is "I know this bb who's bigger than you" or "I met Mike Matarazzo and he's way bigger than you" or "my next door neighbor is 285lb and competing at a national bb contest to become a pro" it's safe to say you're doing alright for yourself.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Marty Champions on December 06, 2008, 07:02:39 AM
Huge beyond belief
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:05:11 AM
I always laugh when most on here call Alex fat and bloated with a big gut.....half you fuggin posers would kill your family to look like Alex for half a day.

And none of those throwin out their shots ever post pics for comparison purposes....hmmmmm?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 06, 2008, 07:06:15 AM
what would you do when you were alex for one day?
i would pose.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 07:08:47 AM
I always laugh when most on here call Alex fat and bloated with a big gut.....half you fuggin posers would kill your family to look like Alex for half a day.

And none of those throwin out their shots ever post pics for comparison purposes....hmmmmm?

Yeah, it seems the people that talk trash around here don't have a pic posted. I wonder why   :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 07:09:30 AM
It's the hair....like Sampson.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:10:10 AM
what would you do when you were alex for one day?
i would pose.

Four words:  Under Armour, the mall
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: G.O.A.T. on December 06, 2008, 07:13:18 AM
Alex, you looked juiced and watered up already. If your a natty, your a huge one. Very impressive, I'm not sure why all the hate. If you jumped on the sauce, you would really blow up. Your first cycle is always the best and you don't need the high doses. If you make that decision, post pics at about 6-8 weeks in. I am curious to see how big you would be. If you don't get stupid with eating the wrong shit, you will get leaner just by the gear. Manipulate your diet and add some cardio, you should turn out very well. The only thing is, once you start, there's no turning back, Your Natty status is gone forever. If your not going to compete, I would think about that. You are bigger than most already.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: G.O.A.T. on December 06, 2008, 07:14:19 AM
Four words:  Under Armour, the mall
Hilarious!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 07:15:34 AM
Alex, you looked juiced and watered up already. If your a natty, your a huge one. Very impressive, I'm not sure why all the hate. If you jumped on the sauce, you would really blow up. Your first cycle is always the best and you don't need the high doses. If you make that decision, post pics at about 6-8 weeks in. I am curious to see how big you would be. If you don't get stupid with eating the wrong shit, you will get leaner just by the gear. Manipulate your diet and add some cardio, you should turn out very well. The only thing is, once you start, there's no turning back, Your Natty status is gone forever. If your not going to compete, I would think about that. You are bigger than most already.

What do you lose when you lose your "natty status?"  Do they take your drivers license?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:16:03 AM
Yeah, it seems the people that talk trash around here don't have a pic posted. I wonder why   :)

Oh, but their quickest with a comment on why those that have posted pics are really lesser men.   They're the ambulance-chasing, blood-sucking attorneys of Getbig that spend a great deal of their energy finding the loopholes that brings the pic-posting person "down a few pegs".

Notice that the competitors on Getbig never make comments like that....they don't give a shit.  It's always the anonymous and the deluded that are in defense mode 24/7, and the irony is that none of them are ever attacked...they just hate that someone else looks good enough to post pics.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 07:18:36 AM
Oh, but their quickest with a comment on why those that have posted pics are really lesser men.   They're the ambulance-chasing, blood-sucking attorneys of Getbig that spend a great deal of their energy finding the loopholes that brings the pic-posting person "down a few pegs".

Notice that the competitors on Getbig never make comments like that....they don't give a shit.  It's always the anonymous and the deluded that are in defense mode 24/7, and the irony is that none of them are ever attacked...they just hate that someone else looks good enough to post pics.

I never understood what the deal was with being scared to post pics of their bodies... I mean, in real life everyone sees what you look like, so what's the difference with posting em here?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 06, 2008, 07:19:32 AM
close to death.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: G.O.A.T. on December 06, 2008, 07:24:24 AM
What do you lose when you lose your "natty status?"  Do they take your drivers license?
Dunno, but some on here seem to be very proud of it. From some of the replies on this thread, Alex was one of them. It seems like it's very important to some. I couldn't careless, to each his own.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:25:40 AM
I never understood what the deal was with being scared to post pics of their bodies... I mean, in real life everyone sees what you look like, so what's the difference with posting em here?

We all have some insecurities about ourselves, but it's the "Getbig physical standards" we've set (that fucking no one measures up to cause it's complete horseshit) coupled with the fickle levels of Getbig acceptance which I think many fear would be permanently lost if pics were posted.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 07:27:14 AM
We all have some insecurities about ourselves, but it's the "Getbig physical standards" we've set (that fucking no one measures up to cause it's complete horseshit) coupled with the fickle levels of Getbig acceptance which I think many fear would be permanently lost if pics were posted.

Bullshit....I still have 22" arms, 245 at -2% bodyfat and drive a convertible hummer to .... 8)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on December 06, 2008, 07:27:36 AM
We all have some insecurities about ourselves, but it's the "Getbig physical standards" we've set (that fucking no one measures up to cause it's complete horseshit) coupled with the fickle levels of Getbig acceptance which I think many fear would be permanently lost if pics were posted.

Someone called me a midget but that was about it for hate lol
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 07:31:35 AM
Someone called me a midget but that was about it for hate lol

When I posted pics I was called everything from big and huge to fat, bloated, sweaty and retarded.....main thing is I thanked those that were cool and didn't care about those that were negative.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: tommywishbone on December 06, 2008, 07:34:40 AM
"Fat, drunk and stupid, is no way to go through life son."     -Dean Wormer
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Go 4 It on December 06, 2008, 07:59:20 AM
For you to be close to pro size at a height of 5'10 you should weigh around 265 atleast, with crazy low bodyfat. You definitely have a good amount of mass on you and a thick build, but comparing yourself to pros is a little far fetched..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DK II on December 06, 2008, 08:28:41 AM
Bullshit....I still have 22" arms, 245 at -2% bodyfat and drive a convertible hummer to .... 8)

 ;D ;D ;D

Hi alex, how's your husband?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: TrueGrit on December 06, 2008, 08:46:51 AM
 This hunk (KING Alex) needs to stay away from teh evil roidz.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 06, 2008, 08:48:20 AM
This hunk (KING Alex) needs to stay away from teh evil roidz.

he needs to take squating on a ball!  >:(


Alex= Big dude, all the way big dude
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: spinnis on December 06, 2008, 08:49:03 AM
are you talking about a cutting cycle or bulking?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 06, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Alex, obviously if you were to go on a chemical regime like that of a Pro, and did the requisite training and dieting, you could most probably compete at a high level eventually. But for someone who appears to have a decent vocation now, would you really want to sacrifice your health to pursue this avenue? I wouldn't, personally. Instead, why not just do a mild cycle, diet down, keep your size(and health) and see how good you can get. Take some pics, shut up the detractors and take it from there.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 06, 2008, 08:53:59 AM
Alex, obviously if you were to go on a chemical regime like that of a Pro, and did the requisite training and dieting, you could most probably compete at a high level eventually. But for someone who appears to have a decent vocation now, would you really want to sacrifice your health to pursue this avenue? I wouldn't, personally. Instead, why not just do a mild cycle, diet down, keep your size(and health) and see how good you can get. Take some pics, shut up the detractors and take it from there.

he doesn't need to, he is one of the richest guys on here
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: TrueGrit on December 06, 2008, 08:55:02 AM
The King of Getbig does not need to pollute himself with vile steroids.

We want our heroes natural!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 06, 2008, 08:56:03 AM
he doesn't need to, he is one of the richest guys on here
That was my point. Why destroy yourself with anabolics for a financially dead end sport like bodybuilding.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: TrueGrit on December 06, 2008, 08:57:12 AM
That was my point. Why destroy yourself with anabolics for a financially dead end sport like bodybuilding.

But you use anabolics and look fantastic - stellar when one considers your age.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mark Kerr on December 06, 2008, 08:58:02 AM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)





You're not "natural." ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 06, 2008, 08:58:25 AM
But you use anabolics and look fantastic - stellar when one considers your age.
As I've said before, I did one cycle in 1986 and that's it. I don't take any steroids, Gh, or pro-hormones.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: TrueGrit on December 06, 2008, 09:02:32 AM
As I've said before, I did one cycle in 1986 and that's it. I don't take any steroids, Gh, or pro-hormones.


 I didn't see that. Well you're doubly inspirational then, seriously.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 06, 2008, 09:04:13 AM

 I didn't see that. Well you're doubly inspirational then, seriously.
Thanks, but I seldom ever have anyone at my gym accuse me of being on juice. I just don't have that "look".
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 09:46:02 AM
All hair.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on December 06, 2008, 09:53:28 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.



Remind me of this guy

(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/7384/mattnew.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 06, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
Alex a natural only can get a certain amount of muscle no matter what his genetics.  So you are not close to pro size, not at all.  Pros are on tons of gear and have way more muscle than you have, if you dieted down most of what you see as muscle would disappear.

jt
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 09:57:38 AM
Alex a natural only can get a certain amount of muscle no matter what his genetics.  So you are not close to pro size, not at all.  Pros are on tons of gear and have way more muscle than you have, if you dieted down most of what you see as muscle would disappear.

jt

typical canned Getbig response to anyone with size that's posted pics...."diet down and you have no muscle"....got it....next.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: mar10s on December 06, 2008, 10:00:02 AM
You have some pretty good size Alex, nice job. 
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 06, 2008, 10:06:09 AM
typical canned Getbig response to anyone with size that's posted pics...."diet down and you have no muscle"....got it....next.

well diet down, big boy and we will see what YOU look like.

jt
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 10:08:09 AM
well diet down, big boy and we will see what YOU look like.

jt

I know, I know.....diet down and I'm a Backstreet Boy....I get it.   
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: KC4 on December 06, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
5'10'' 245 but about 20% BF, if you were to compete you would need to get under 200 and that isn't pro size for 5'10. You have great size just need to clean up the diet a little bit.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 10:10:27 AM
5'10'' 245 but about 20% BF, if you were to compete you would need to get under 200 and that isn't pro size for 5'10. You have great size just need to clean up the diet a little bit.

So once again, diet down and you have no real size.....got it.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 06, 2008, 10:18:00 AM
So once again, diet down and you have no real size.....got it.

I don't know how you look but Alex most certainly will lose an easy 40lbs to be considered gym lean and to be in a competition he will lose 60+lbs.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 10:26:39 AM
I don't know how you look but Alex most certainly will lose an easy 40lbs to be considered gym lean and to be in a competition he will lose 60+lbs.

So diet down, lose 40-60+lbs of fat and are merely a shadow of former self....got it.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 06, 2008, 10:52:57 AM
So diet down, lose 40-60+lbs of fat and are merely a shadow of former self....got it.

Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 06, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

I was surprised in a good way by Arvilla's transformation. Most guys who are considered "big guys" don't want to diet down like Arvilla did. Most of the time they back out of the show half way through the diet when they finally realize they're not going from 280 to a sliced 240 and will end up around 200. Or they compete fat.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 06, 2008, 11:48:29 AM
thats why arvilla is arvilla.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: EL Mariachi on December 06, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

pretty close
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

AHHAAHAH!!!  "deal with it".   Thanks for the life lesson there sport.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: danielson on December 06, 2008, 12:39:14 PM
I'd say Alex has more quality muscle than most pros. He could probably win the Mr. O if he trained for it, but for him that would be a massive pay cut.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
The true reality is life isn't bb folks....it's a glorified hobby and for those rare few who pursue it an inevitable failed career choice.   The physical standards represented within are utter nonsense....it's as much smoke and mirrors as the "deluded fat guys who think they're big". 
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
I'd say Alex has more quality muscle than most pros. He could probably win the Mr. O if he trained for it, but for him that would be a massive pay cut.

Epic, epic truth
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The_Hammer on December 06, 2008, 12:43:47 PM
You should cut down to 205-210 and you'd look pretty ripped.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 06, 2008, 01:57:15 PM
Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

quoted for the truth, love how naturals think they are way more than they are until they lose the fat :)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: dustin on December 06, 2008, 01:59:51 PM
Quit yammering and hit the God damn sauce already, Alex. You're a stud. All the good bros in the Steroid forum will help you out, myself included. I can tell that you've been tempted by the dark side for a while. Quit thinking about getting your toes wet and just jump in already. :) 8)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: pumpster on December 06, 2008, 02:52:16 PM
Alex a natural only can get a certain amount of muscle no matter what his genetics.  So you are not close to pro size, not at all.  Pros are on tons of gear and have way more muscle than you have, if you dieted down most of what you see as muscle would disappear.

jt


Bingo. Alex has no neck, plenty of blubber there. I don't see the need for sauce already big n beefy. If you have to find out research it, do 1 or 2 cycles just to find out how it works in your case, what differences it makes, Not because it's realistic to win shows. A coupla cycles isn't going to seriously impact health compared to pro intakes over years.

As far as dieting down of course some of the size will go but a more athletic look will be there instead of great measurements. Is it worth the pain of dieting and maintaining it for that more athletic, smaller look..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 03:42:44 PM
quoted for the truth, love how naturals think they are way more than they are until they lose the fat :)

which begs the question....why are the drug-using "bbs" more credible and in touch with reality?  Are their gains really their own....much like extra fat over muscle shouldn't be considered "size"?  The whole bb thing is a bullshit "who's got the bigger dick" think anyhow.   Can't beat a dude on size...tell him his size is fat and means nothing.   Can't "out lean" a bb...tell him his gains mean nothing because they're drug-induced.  What I do know is that a big (excuse me "fat") guy rarely calls out a smaller, leaner guy first...9 outta 10 times it's the other way around.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 06, 2008, 03:44:09 PM
Quit yammering and hit the God damn sauce already, Alex. You're a stud. All the good bros in the Steroid forum will help you out, myself included. I can tell that you've been tempted by the dark side for a while. Quit thinking about getting your toes wet and just jump in already. :) 8)

AHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!  "the good bros in the Steroid forum"

C'mon Alex, all the cool kids are doin it.....ya wanna be cool right?   
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Jeffro on December 06, 2008, 03:46:56 PM
which begs the question....why are the drug-using "bbs" more credible and in touch with reality?  Are their gains really their own....much like extra fat over muscle shouldn't be considered "size"?  The whole bb thing is a bullshit "who's got the bigger dick" think anyhow.   Can't beat a dude on size...tell him his size is fat and means nothing.   Can't "out lean" a bb...tell him his gains mean nothing because they're drug-induced.  What I do know is that a big (excuse me "fat") guy rarely calls out a smaller, leaner guy first...9 outta 10 times it's the other way around.
Quoted for truth, excellent post.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 06, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 06, 2008, 04:04:49 PM
I think bodybuilders make more than we think.  It's just that their activities can't be reported on a W2.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Honour on December 06, 2008, 06:37:26 PM
Alex has been teasing us for years with this Diet stuff, tbh a lot of us would love to see where hes at if he really took a shot at getting in contest shape :o. I think like some of us here he likes to workout etc but also hang with mates and enjoy life, which can be hard to do when really trying to get ripped. But whatever, Big cool dude all the way 8).
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2008, 06:42:20 PM
Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.
Man of Steel would slap the bodybuilder sperm right out of your mouth.

"Wannabe" ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 06:54:56 PM
Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.


Is your brain damaged from your forehead smacking against the headboard with your bf Rico at the controls?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2008, 06:57:23 PM
Lots of skinny twinks in here talking shit about some big bastards!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 06:59:38 PM
Lots of skinny twinks in here talking shit about some big bastards!

haha, yes chaos, epic napoleon complex going on...poor little ab shooters...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2008, 07:03:24 PM
haha, yes chaos, epic napoleon complex going on...poor little ab shooters...
These are the guys that are constantly standing in front of the mirror with their shirts up around thier nipples flexing the only muscles they can see.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 07:04:30 PM
These are the guys that are constantly standing in front of the mirror with their shirts up around thier nipples flexing the only muscles they can see.

Yes, that is the definition of an "ab shooter"
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
Yes, that is the definition of an "ab shooter"
The same guys that hog the pink dumbells my wife wants to use!! >:(
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 06, 2008, 07:08:20 PM
The same guys that hog the pink dumbells my wife wants to use!! >:(

Yep.  Also known to use the squat rack to curl in.  And to do pull-ups as the main part of their back workout.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 06, 2008, 07:10:15 PM
Yep.  Also known to use the squat rack to curl in.  And to do pull-ups as the main part of their back workout.
When I see those guys using the squat rack to curl, I get really intimidated, I mean when I use that rack I load the bar up with hundreds of pounds and use my legs to lift, these guys are using their arms!!! :o
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: elite_lifter on December 06, 2008, 07:12:49 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.
Getbigs #1 Attention Whore.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on December 06, 2008, 07:24:03 PM
10 year girl in guanxi province you have same size

she eat one bowl noodle a week and leaf of tree

藏龙卧虎
;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: no one on December 06, 2008, 07:35:26 PM


tell me this cry for attention didn't backfire in a big way...

 ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: titusisback on December 06, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
I did one when I was 19yo.. didn't even dieted, showed up and got second place

Let's see some photos
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Worm on December 06, 2008, 10:37:26 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.
Alex23..Why all the attention wanting ,all of a sudden?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Bear on December 07, 2008, 03:04:19 AM
Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  :)

Yes, holding on to the muscle is a bitch, one can't overstate the muscle shrinkage factor when carbs are low. Mentally, feeling weeker and looking smaller takes its toll too, it's much more fun to be perpetually overeating and feeling strong but carrying some fat.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Reign Down on December 07, 2008, 03:12:00 AM
Alex is packing more muscle than most pro's and will win his next show.


ta ta
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 07, 2008, 07:24:15 AM
To be honest I'd rather look like Alex than some junkie bodybuilder.

Even if Alex is using gear, he has a naturally big size about him that everyday people probably notice and like. Totally unlike some bloated and fanny pack sporting g4p champ, whom most reasonable people in society detest.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: D-bol on December 07, 2008, 07:26:03 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.

good frame, man - get shredded and you'll look fantastic!

whats your b.f. percentage in that pic?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Marty Champions on December 07, 2008, 07:26:25 AM
Alex23 looks bigger than a truck of deli meat
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Marty Champions on December 07, 2008, 07:56:14 AM
bump for dense muscle
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Reign Down on December 07, 2008, 08:02:13 AM
Yeah he is going to do some damage, he does need need drugs to win shows
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: boonstack on December 07, 2008, 08:04:06 AM
jay lost 10+lbs between prejudging and nightshow. LOL

20 lbs wont be sufficient at all for alex.

he will need to diet down at least 35+ lbs to have a relatively decent six pack.

why not just aim for 10% year round and go from there.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: danielson on December 07, 2008, 08:04:22 AM
Alex could easily get on the sauce and turn pro by 2010. Then win the Mr. O for 20 years or so, but why would he want to? He would lose a ton of income taking that path. Let the people with no other career choices prance around naked for old queens. Alex only lifts as a hobby and owns most pros.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jesusbod on December 07, 2008, 08:06:46 AM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.




How the hell can we be positive and respectful when your picture is named "fuckallyoubitches.jpg"?
 ;D >:(

You are big, but not anywhere PRO SIZE... Sorry.

Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 07, 2008, 08:18:15 AM
yes why would anyone wants to be a pro.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: QuakerOats on December 07, 2008, 08:18:20 AM
To be honest I'd rather look like Alex than some junkie bodybuilder.

Even if Alex is using gear, he has a naturally big size about him that everyday people probably notice and like. Totally unlike some bloated and fanny pack sporting g4p champ, whom most reasonable people in society detest.
the reason most average people detest pros is becasue they're so huge and shredded that they are intimidating, Alex has good size but doesn't look intimidating or massively huge.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on December 07, 2008, 08:19:54 AM
you dont have pro size.
most of the size you have is fat, i'm afraid.
i think you scared to get a sensible bodyfat as you know that you will have nothing, nothing at all.
you need to prioritize your arms alex. typing won't build them.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 07, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
its more the shreddyness that creeps them out, show them richard jones on a muscle fitness cover and they would say, nice athletic body, maybe a tad too big but appealing, things are different when hes on a flex cover.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 07, 2008, 08:47:12 AM
you dont have pro size.
most of the size you have is fat, i'm afraid.
i think you scared to get a sensible bodyfat as you know that you will have nothing, nothing at all.
you need to prioritize your arms alex. typing won't build them.

"...and round and round we go."
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Reign Down on December 07, 2008, 08:50:42 AM
you dont have pro size.
most of the size you have is fat, i'm afraid.
i think you scared to get a sensible bodyfat as you know that you will have nothing, nothing at all.
you need to prioritize your arms alex. typing won't build them.

Alex is huge and could have Peaks like Ronnie.


He does not need drugs to be this big and its all muscle he is not fat, when he dials in he will destroy the opposition
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 07, 2008, 08:52:13 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 07, 2008, 09:09:27 AM
;D

Holy hunky muscleman Batman!!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on December 07, 2008, 09:13:54 AM
"...and round and round we go."

Maybe people say it because it is simply the truth? much of it is fat and a low bodyfat would reveal his small arms.
i think he deep down know and this is why he wont diet, even for his wedding (congratulations btw Alex. by a good husband but do not let the woman wear the trouser as so often happen in america)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 07, 2008, 09:40:38 AM
Maybe people say it because it is simply the truth? much of it is fat and a low bodyfat would reveal his small arms.
i think he deep down know and this is why he wont diet, even for his wedding (congratulations btw Alex. by a good husband but do not let the woman wear the trouser as so often happen in america)

I'm sorry, but the same ole "you don't wanna diet for FEAR of revealing what's underneath" excuse simply don't cut it anymore...new material is needed.  That little addendum is attached to every little guy's bashing of a big guy's physique to help hide the real insecurity present.   The truth is smaller guys have their little Napoleonic egos all bruised up because they can't stand the bigger guys just being bigger in general.   If the bigger guy were 280lbs and shredded the small guys would resort to the good ole standy "all drugs" to compensate.  If the bigger guy were 280lbs with great muscle but not shredded they'd resort to good ole standby "if ya dieted down you'd be nothing" to compensate.  The only place you ever see a bigger guy given shit to a smaller guy is in the old comic adds for building big muscles and the little guy is portrayed with sand gettin kicked in his face by the big guy....that just ain't real.  So, far all the little Napoleons out their angry and bitter with severely bruised egos just get over it.   Ya wanna be ripped, be ripped....the big guys don't give a shit.   There's your truth.

   
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on December 07, 2008, 09:43:50 AM
I'm sorry, but the same ole "you don't wanna diet for FEAR of revealing what's underneath" excuse simply don't cut it anymore...new material is needed.  That little addendum is attached to every little guy's bashing of a big guy's physique to help hide the real insecurity present.   The truth is smaller guys have their little Napoleonic egos all bruised up because they can't stand the bigger guys just being bigger in general.   If the bigger guy were 280lbs and shredded the small guys would resort to the good ole standy "all drugs" to compensate.  If the bigger guy were 280lbs with great muscle but not shredded they'd resort to good ole standby "if ya dieted down you'd be nothing" to compensate.  The only place you ever see a bigger guy given shit to a smaller guy is in the old comic adds for building big muscles and the little guy is portrayed with sand gettin kicked in his face by the big guy....that just ain't real.  So, far all the little Napoleons out their angry and bitter with severely bruised egos just get over it.   Ya wanna be ripped, be ripped....the big guys don't give a shit.   There's your truth.

   
X2 Quoted for truth, justice and the American way.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Jeffro on December 07, 2008, 10:19:12 AM
I'm sorry, but the same ole "you don't wanna diet for FEAR of revealing what's underneath" excuse simply don't cut it anymore...new material is needed.  That little addendum is attached to every little guy's bashing of a big guy's physique to help hide the real insecurity present.   The truth is smaller guys have their little Napoleonic egos all bruised up because they can't stand the bigger guys just being bigger in general.   If the bigger guy were 280lbs and shredded the small guys would resort to the good ole standy "all drugs" to compensate.  If the bigger guy were 280lbs with great muscle but not shredded they'd resort to good ole standby "if ya dieted down you'd be nothing" to compensate.  The only place you ever see a bigger guy given shit to a smaller guy is in the old comic adds for building big muscles and the little guy is portrayed with sand gettin kicked in his face by the big guy....that just ain't real.  So, far all the little Napoleons out their angry and bitter with severely bruised egos just get over it.   Ya wanna be ripped, be ripped....the big guys don't give a shit.   There's your truth.   
Damn, MOS is absolutely destroying the little guys' hopes and dreams in this thread.  :o
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Reign Down on December 07, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
Maybe people say it because it is simply the truth? much of it is fat and a low bodyfat would reveal his small arms.
i think he deep down know and this is why he wont diet, even for his wedding (congratulations btw Alex. by a good husband but do not let the woman wear the trouser as so often happen in america)

Alex is one huge MOFO and does not need to diet.


He is the same size as a pro, deal with it.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: pumpster on December 07, 2008, 10:26:06 AM
Alex is packing more muscle than most pro's and will win his next show.


ta ta

Epic man love from mama


ta ta
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Reign Down on December 07, 2008, 10:35:02 AM
Epic man love from mama


ta ta


Dumpster. Stalking me and others since he registered.


Your thirst for me is insatiable!


ta ta
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 07, 2008, 10:53:48 AM
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on December 07, 2008, 11:07:45 AM
I'm sorry, but the same ole "you don't wanna diet for FEAR of revealing what's underneath" excuse simply don't cut it anymore...new material is needed.  That little addendum is attached to every little guy's bashing of a big guy's physique to help hide the real insecurity present.   The truth is smaller guys have their little Napoleonic egos all bruised up because they can't stand the bigger guys just being bigger in general.   If the bigger guy were 280lbs and shredded the small guys would resort to the good ole standy "all drugs" to compensate.  If the bigger guy were 280lbs with great muscle but not shredded they'd resort to good ole standby "if ya dieted down you'd be nothing" to compensate.  The only place you ever see a bigger guy given shit to a smaller guy is in the old comic adds for building big muscles and the little guy is portrayed with sand gettin kicked in his face by the big guy....that just ain't real.  So, far all the little Napoleons out their angry and bitter with severely bruised egos just get over it.   Ya wanna be ripped, be ripped....the big guys don't give a shit.   There's your truth.

   

You clearly dont read or understand me as I often write similar when the bodybuilder is called fat or bulked in the off season. Gaining fat is necessary to gain serious muscle, fact. No debate from Sharma.

But what Sharma knows is where you are wrong:

Alex is not very big in terms of muscular bulk to begin with. 
His arms are small even at high bodyfat.
To say he have the pro size is simply a joke.
In  this case, as he have only modest muscle and much bloat, he would not look big at all when cut down. Simple fact.
There is big guy as in lots of muscle and lots of fat covering the muscle. Then there is big as in lots of fat.

My friend, I seen all the pros at their most bulked off season and they make alex look like a tiny flea man.

Post some more if you need me to further educate you.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 07, 2008, 11:09:54 AM
you dont have pro size.
most of the size you have is fat, i'm afraid.
i think you scared to get a sensible bodyfat as you know that you will have nothing, nothing at all.
you need to prioritize your arms alex. typing won't build them.

lol spot on Sharma
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 07, 2008, 11:11:52 AM
Sharma is destroying the natural bulkers that think they have anything but fat and a little muscle.  Naturals will never be big shedded, never.

jt
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on December 07, 2008, 11:15:13 AM
lol spot on Sharma

Good to see you JT my friend.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Nordic Beast on December 07, 2008, 01:01:57 PM
2 words

Peptide Wizard
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2008, 01:07:29 PM
A lot of tiny tits in this thread.  Isn't the idea of bodybuilding to get bigger?  It's not bodycutting or bodylookgoodforyoursize. ... ::)


I've noticed it's usually these midgets who buy their XS t-shirts at Baby Gap to try to look bigger....hahaha

Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Man of Steel on December 07, 2008, 06:16:01 PM
You clearly dont read or understand me as I often write similar when the bodybuilder is called fat or bulked in the off season. Gaining fat is necessary to gain serious muscle, fact. No debate from Sharma.

But what Sharma knows is where you are wrong:

Alex is not very big in terms of muscular bulk to begin with. 
His arms are small even at high bodyfat.
To say he have the pro size is simply a joke.
In  this case, as he have only modest muscle and much bloat, he would not look big at all when cut down. Simple fact.
There is big guy as in lots of muscle and lots of fat covering the muscle. Then there is big as in lots of fat.

My friend, I seen all the pros at their most bulked off season and they make alex look like a tiny flea man.

Post some more if you need me to further educate you.

My post had nothing to do with Alex.....my post addressed a common generality among smaller men with bruised egos and bitterness towards larger men.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 07, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
My post had nothing to do with Alex.....my post addressed a common generality among smaller men with bruised egos and bitterness towards larger men.

MOS, no need to clarify anything to that turd.  We all knew what you meant.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: donation on December 07, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
Mohamed,

this thread isn't about buying used undies.
take your gay 4 pay business elsewhere, the mosque maybe.

You clearly dont read or understand me as I often write similar when the bodybuilder is called fat or bulked in the off season. Gaining fat is necessary to gain serious muscle, fact. No debate from Sharma.

But what Sharma knows is where you are wrong:

Alex is not very big in terms of muscular bulk to begin with. 
His arms are small even at high bodyfat.
To say he have the pro size is simply a joke.
In  this case, as he have only modest muscle and much bloat, he would not look big at all when cut down. Simple fact.
There is big guy as in lots of muscle and lots of fat covering the muscle. Then there is big as in lots of fat.

My friend, I seen all the pros at their most bulked off season and they make alex look like a tiny flea man.

Post some more if you need me to further educate you.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 07, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
hahahah I can't believe all the Muslim hatred crawling in this thread....

Then again, why would I be surprised...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mr. big on December 07, 2008, 06:42:31 PM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.




This is nice...actually that type is my goal, idont want to be a muscle freak just like ronnie and else...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: cherrybody on December 09, 2008, 02:24:33 AM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.
  Theres many diff physiques in the IFBB if your going to compare yourself to a pro then you should be comparing yourself to someone like lee priest or branch warren,and you've seen them offseason. Not to take anything away from your obvious hard training and consistent eating. For some pro's size matters:) but not as much as genetics and being a pro is about what you present on stage . I certainly learned that. keep doin what your doin
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: saucetradomous on December 09, 2008, 06:49:47 AM
I must confess.  Every time I see this thread tittle it makes me laugh.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: no one on December 09, 2008, 06:50:45 AM
  Theres many diff physiques in the IFBB if your going to compare yourself to a pro then you should be comparing yourself to someone like lee priest or branch warren,and you've seen them offseason. Not to take anything away from your obvious hard training and consistent eating. For some pro's size matters:) but not as much as genetics and being a pro is about what you present on stage . I certainly learned that. keep doin what your doin

translated...

OWNED.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kyomu on December 09, 2008, 07:21:53 AM
Alex, why are you so frustrated?
You always say "Oiled man with thong..." or something like that and You always attend those major "Oiled man" show.
 And you are always comparing yourself to those "Oiled thong man".
Just you are a weak mind man who cant put up with diet and cardio arnt you? Everybody can get the size of pro with your condition.
So, just shut up and stop comparing yourself to those "Oiled man" or cut up your body once and speak loud.
For now,Just you look like a cry baby every time you make this kind of thread.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 09, 2008, 08:07:54 AM
Are there 'things' kymou ?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The ChemistV2 on December 09, 2008, 08:12:26 AM
Are there 'things' kymou ?
"Oiled Men In Thongs"= Serious Business!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jon cole on December 09, 2008, 08:14:20 AM
alex is natural , not the head red as tomato and bloated like a water melon...
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 09, 2008, 08:15:32 AM
kymou, you lift in the gym without your shirt on ???????





and by the way, your doing your lateral raises wrong, thats prob. why your shoulders are a laggin bodypart
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jon cole on December 09, 2008, 08:19:02 AM
the video show us  "how not to...do lateral raise, bench press, and putting a good music on a video."
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Monster_Everything on December 09, 2008, 08:19:25 AM
the video show us  "how not to...do lateral raise, bench press, and putting a good music on a video."
:D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jon cole on December 09, 2008, 08:21:38 AM
:D

at 0.34 he is buying food for the all year.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kiwiol on December 09, 2008, 08:33:26 AM
kymou, you lift in the gym without your shirt on ???????

and by the way, your doing your lateral raises wrong, thats prob. why your shoulders are a laggin bodypart

All lice cake
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kyomu on December 09, 2008, 08:58:08 AM
kymou, you lift in the gym without your shirt on ???????





and by the way, your doing your lateral raises wrong, thats prob. why your shoulders are a laggin bodypart
Thats right.
Now(since trained by Paco), I train totaly different. so My shoulder improved drasticaly except rear parts.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kyomu on December 09, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Are there 'things' kymou ?
I have nothing against Alex. I do think that he carrys good amount of muscle.
Just I said what i felt. Thats all.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 09, 2008, 09:09:40 AM
Alex......you've got some impressive size for being a natural.  You're noggin is fucking huge dude!  LMAO!  I'd becareful not to blow up too big or your head might explode :)  seriously though........once you cross over to the darkside you're going to get huge.  I can tell you'd respond very well to moderate doses of steroids.  But hell at your size and a little dieting you'd have a stellar kick ass physique.  You don't need steroids. 
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: SaltShaker on December 09, 2008, 09:12:00 AM
I don't really care about measurements, bodyfat and shit.. but standing at 245 ish on a 5'10" frame, I'm pretty sure I can diet down a little and still be massively owning the detractors.

well you do seem to have the GH gut, so thats a start... but in all fairness, yeap if you can nail your diet for a couple of month loose the fat, you've got some potential
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on December 09, 2008, 09:58:10 AM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/4g5kyr.jpg)

thats not alex.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jon cole on December 09, 2008, 10:18:06 AM
alex got "the pro bodybuilder syndrom", discovered by the doctor dorian coleman in 1884.

the symptom are a red and bloated face, gh belly and ego trouble. ;)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 09, 2008, 10:21:21 AM
kymou, you lift in the gym without your shirt on ???????





and by the way, your doing your lateral raises wrong, thats prob. why your shoulders are a laggin bodypart

Is that what those were....needs to back off the weight, looks like he's trying to take off...cawwwww, cawwwww, cawwwwwww !
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on December 09, 2008, 02:31:59 PM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/4g5kyr.jpg)

thats not alex.

Is that actually him?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 09, 2008, 02:35:39 PM
Is that actually him?

hahahahah stfu Illinois based gimmick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on December 09, 2008, 02:38:08 PM
Is that actually him?

looks like him
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: IFBBwannaB on December 09, 2008, 02:44:17 PM
Is that actually him?


Thats him in 5 years...or less...depends how miserably he will fail to diet again and rebound on the junk food.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Alex23 on December 09, 2008, 02:49:06 PM

Thats him in 5 years...or less...depends how miserably he will fail to diet again and rebound on the junk food.

Making fun of Artie Lang is cheap ...
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 09, 2008, 03:00:37 PM
 ;D
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Post by: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 02:30:28 PM
;D
   

ur pretty obsessed with batman shit...
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Post by: roc on December 11, 2008, 03:22:19 PM
your a tank dude! good luck
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Post by: Mr. big on December 11, 2008, 06:43:30 PM
You can be a PRO wrestler, WWE ;D ;D ;D alex the Natural...?
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Post by: koolie1 on December 11, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
I think some greater traps workouts would bring everything around a little better for you.
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Post by: chaos on December 11, 2008, 07:04:24 PM
I think some greater traps workouts would bring everything around a little better for you.
STFU.
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Post by: Relentless on December 11, 2008, 07:06:43 PM
What are your bodybuilding aspirations, Alex? 
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Post by: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 07:10:16 PM
What are your bodybuilding aspirations, Alex? 


Posting on getbig.
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Post by: chaos on December 11, 2008, 07:15:05 PM


Posting on getbig.
Ripped fingers is a huge goal for me.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 07:18:45 PM
Ripped fingers is a huge goal for me.

My index and middle finger's hams are huge... all hanging and shit... thumb's vascular as a cawk..
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Post by: chaos on December 11, 2008, 07:22:25 PM
My index and middle finger's hams are huge... all hanging and shit... thumb's vascular as a cawk..
My fingers are so ripped I have the coveted "split bicep" on them and my thumbs are striated so deeply I grate cheese on them.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 11, 2008, 07:25:37 PM
My fingers are so ripped I have the coveted "split bicep" on them and my thumbs are striated so deeply I grate cheese on them.

hahaha!!! Mine fingers muscle belly are full with low "attachments" and small knucles which gives my hand the "X-Frame" look.
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Post by: flexingtonsteele on December 11, 2008, 07:29:08 PM
  Theres many diff physiques in the IFBB if your going to compare yourself to a pro then you should be comparing yourself to someone like lee priest or branch warren,and you've seen them offseason. Not to take anything away from your obvious hard training and consistent eating. For some pro's size matters:) but not as much as genetics and being a pro is about what you present on stage . I certainly learned that. keep doin what your doin

QFT :D
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Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 25, 2009, 01:23:44 PM
Where's Alex been? Is he among us in disguise?
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Post by: Big Mark C on January 25, 2009, 01:59:23 PM
all hail king alex   the biggest natural on this board by far
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Post by: chaos on January 25, 2009, 02:21:02 PM
all hail king alex   the biggest natural on this board by far
Wipe the stain off your lips.
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Post by: jtsunami on January 25, 2009, 02:25:17 PM
Alex is lame lately
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Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on January 25, 2009, 03:11:12 PM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.



ANYBODY CAN HAVE SIZE,,,,JUST PUT ON FAT JUST AS IN YOUR CASE SIZE THERE YES,,,BUT NOT PRO STATUS  ::)
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Post by: slacker on January 25, 2009, 03:23:14 PM
Please no negativity; be fair and respectful.



what is up with that shirt and your hair omg  wtf


j/k bro you look huge and most here couldnt hold a candle to you and me. This board is full of haters
heres a pic of me jsut so you know
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Post by: CT_Muscle on January 25, 2009, 03:33:37 PM
Nowhere near the size of Coleman and Ruhl, the greatest naturals ever.

Pretty close  ;D
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Post by: slacker on January 25, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
yes they were both good strong naturals
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Post by: tonymctones on January 25, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
alex what federation where you national champ in judo? what division?, we might have fought one another.
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Post by: jtsunami on January 25, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Alex's head is the only thing close to pro size, such a huge ego
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Post by: dutchmanart on January 28, 2009, 04:16:01 PM
Im not hating bro..I think you are a big powerfull guy but really when talking bodybuilding you cant flex fat sorry mate.

OUCH!!

But he speaks the truth.

so many people say "if I dieted down I could BLAH BLAH BLAH"  LOL

Yeah right, 99% of the people on earth don't have the balls to diet and do what they need to do in BB.  that's why this guy sayd , "I don't care about mesurments, Body fat percentages etc"  LAZY and fat.  Sorry bro.
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Post by: BIG_STI on January 28, 2009, 06:37:42 PM
Where has this obese slob been at? Oh yeah he only posts with his gimmicks now.
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Post by: chaos on January 28, 2009, 07:22:54 PM
Where has this obese slob been at? Oh yeah he only posts with his gimmicks now.
You're quite the gimmick yourself "stud"
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Post by: jtsunami on January 28, 2009, 07:48:29 PM
You're quite the gimmick yourself "stud"

lol that is probably Alex
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Post by: Big Mark C on January 28, 2009, 07:51:08 PM
You're quite the gimmick yourself "stud"

chaos logging on to make his 60 post per night quota? ;)
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Post by: TrueGrit on January 28, 2009, 07:52:48 PM
lol that is probably Alex

Seriously, if that's Al then he's even cooler than I first thought
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Post by: chaos on January 28, 2009, 07:53:18 PM
chaos logging on to make his 60 post per night quota? ;)
Did I hurt your feelings "stud"?
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 07:58:22 PM
chaos logging on to make his 60 post per night quota? ;)

haha sorry chaos (love ya bro) but that is some funny shit ;D
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Post by: chaos on January 28, 2009, 07:59:12 PM
haha sorry chaos (love ya bro) but that is some funny shit ;D

Some of us don't have gimmicks to spread the 60 posts around on. ;)
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 08:21:09 PM
Alex,

No disrespect just reality, you are not even close to Pro-size. Some of the Middleweights -160lb to 176lb(Nathan DeTracy-USA Middleweigth champ-250lb Off-season- competiton-171lb) are as heavy and learner than you off-season with better condition. It is impossible to access your body with such high body fat levels. You seems to have a very powerfull physique, but As WillGrant said you be close to 170lb competition ready...and don't forget you are 5'10....going against guys that are 5'2 to 5'4
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Post by: The Coach on January 28, 2009, 08:26:44 PM
Alex,

No disrespect just reality, you are not even close to Pro-size. Some of the Middleweights -160lb to 176lb(Nathan DeTracy-USA Middleweigth champ-250lb Off-season- competiton-171lb) are as heavy and learner than you off-season with better condition. It is impossible to access your body with such high body fat levels. You seems to have a very powerfull physique, but As WillGrant said you be close to 170lb competition ready...and don't forget you are 5'10....going against guys that are 5'2 to 5'4

Now how freaking dumb is that? Why thee hell would anyone in their right mind blow up 80lbs past competition weight? Thats no where near having any type of commonsense!!!
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Post by: BIG_STI on January 28, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
chaos logging on to make his 60 post per night quota? ;)

Ok "Alex"
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Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 28, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
Now how freaking dumb is that? Why thee hell would anyone in their right mind blow up 80lbs past competition weight? Thats no where near having any type of commonsense!!!

exactly, u cant be that lean or in any type of decent shape if ur losing 80lbs to get into contest shape.

either ur a total fat ass, or u lost a assload of muscle getting ready for your show.

either way you fucked up!

I dont see any reason a bodybuilder cant stay 20-35 or so lbs from there contest weight in the offseason, depending on what size they are.
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Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 09:41:37 PM
Alex,

No disrespect just reality, you are not even close to Pro-size. Some of the Middleweights -160lb to 176lb(Nathan DeTracy-USA Middleweigth champ-250lb Off-season- competiton-171lb) are as heavy and learner than you off-season with better condition. It is impossible to access your body with such high body fat levels. You seems to have a very powerfull physique, but As WillGrant said you be close to 170lb competition ready...and don't forget you are 5'10....going against guys that are 5'2 to 5'4

Damn DeTracy really goes up that heavy ?!  :o
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 09:51:53 PM
Now how freaking dumb is that? Why thee hell would anyone in their right mind blow up 80lbs past competition weight? Thats no where near having any type of commonsense!!!

Coach,

May be you should teach Lee Priest and other Bodybuilders that use this approach how to get in shape ...since you obviously by your last contest pics have absolutely no clue what so ever. I PERSONALLY don't agree or use such dramastic change in body weight, but I do respect and recognize that this seem to work for some. As diets go you must use what better fit you. The believers in such dramatic weight gain believe that they can sustain heavy poundage off-season allowing them to work deep muscle fibers. Again I do not feel this is the most efficient way. But I respect the variations and individualism of every competitor. You obviously know much more than Lee Priest and David Palumbo( Nathan's Trainer)...just kind of weird that all your Knowledge can not be applied to yourself  ::)
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:00:15 PM
Let's see some pictures of the amazing Evil Anus then
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:03:37 PM
Let's see some pictures of the amazing Evil Anus then
EVIL ANGEL POST YOUR PICS
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:03:55 PM
Let's see some pictures of the amazing Evil Anus then

This is not about me ....but if you insist
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Post by: tbombz on January 28, 2009, 10:04:10 PM
evil angel =

http://www.tamerelguindy.com/

his wife =

http://www.zhannarotar.net/media.html
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Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
Hahaha Tamer owning the tiny tits   ;D
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
This is not about me ....but if you insist
You look fuckin awesome.
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Post by: jtsunami on January 28, 2009, 10:06:56 PM
Alex getting owned again by someone, great post evil angel.

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Post by: tbombz on January 28, 2009, 10:08:02 PM
you know evilangel... i just got the new MD a few days ago and i noticed your pic in the xenadrine ad.. the on youve got on your site home page.. i had no idea who it was but it stuck out and i think you look phenomenal man...   best of luck to you in the future...
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:08:05 PM
You look fuckin awesome.

Thank you...I am a really humble guy...Like I said this was not about me...but I believe that If you going to say something you better be able to back it up....not the case with some guys here.
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Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 10:08:19 PM
how long have you been training, Tamer ?
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:08:31 PM
evil angel =

http://www.tamerelguindy.com/

his wife =

http://www.zhannarotar.net/media.html
Tamer your wife is sexy. I'd hit it.  ;)
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
Thank you...I am a really humble guy...Like I said this was not about me...but I believe that If you going to say something you better be able to back it up....not the case with some guys here.
Legitimate point. People do want to know who the advice is coming from.
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:10:06 PM
you know evilangel... i just got the new MD a few days ago and i noticed your pic in the xenadrine ad.. the on youve got on your site home page.. i had no idea who it was but it stuck out and i think you look phenomenal man...   best of luck to you in the future...

Thanks next is the USA's ....
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:12:15 PM
how long have you been training, Tamer ?

Stavios,
I have been training for about 10 years...It has been a long road since I have a hard time putting on quality Muscle....
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Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 10:13:49 PM
Stavios,
I have been training for about 10 years...It has been a long road since I have a hard time putting on quality Muscle....

How tall are you and how heavy? Looking great!
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Post by: The Coach on January 28, 2009, 10:15:15 PM
Hey "Evil Angel" if you agree then why argue? As for Lee blowing up they he does, even though I don't agree, it's his business, there, I told him.

As for me, if you know freaking anything, you'd know that was the first time I dieted down in almost 20 years. As for the others you mentioned? Yeah, I have would have no problem getting getting someone in contest shape just as easily as Pulumbo , the thing is I prefer to train athletes not bodybuilders! Use some commonsense. 80lbs over contest weight my ass, if their "guru" tells them to do that, I say expose him for the ASS he is!
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Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 10:15:35 PM
Stavios,
I have been training for about 10 years...It has been a long road since I have a hard time putting on quality Muscle....
I know where you are coming from, been training for 6 years myself and still about 190lbs onstage at 5'10  :-X
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
I am 5'7....Off-season Weight is 220- Competition around 190lb. At the Xenadrine add I was about 235lb-13% body fat and drop to 4% competition
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
Evil Angel, you do look good but you are pumped full of illegal drugs. You and your woman spend hours turning each other into pin cushions as you inject your fixes.
We should make the point that Alex is natural which makes his pro-like size remarkable.
For more remarkable than a drug addict in a thong.
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:22:09 PM
I know where you are coming from, been training for 6 years myself and still about 190lbs onstage at 5'10  :-X

Stavios you have Great structure...just got to be patient and stick with it....with 20lb of pure muscle you will look sick....just take your time....I would say a realistic goal for that gain is 2 to 3 years
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:22:35 PM
I am 5'7....Off-season Weight is 220- Competition around 190lb. At the Xenadrine add I was about 235lb-13% body fat and drop to 4% competition
Do your shoulders make your upper body twice as wide as your waist?
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:23:06 PM
Stavios you have Great structure...just got to be patient and stick with it....with 20lb of pure muscle you will look sick....just take your time....I would say a realistic goal for that gain is 2 to 3 years

Drug addicts both passive enabling each other.
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:24:29 PM
Evil Angel, you do look good but you are pumped full of illegal drugs. You and your woman spend hours turning each other into pin cushions as you inject your fixes.
We should make the point that Alex is natural which makes his pro-like size remarkable.
For more remarkable than a drug addict in a thong.
True. Alex deserves tremendous props for the fact that he's gained the size he has without drugs.
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
I know where you are coming from, been training for 6 years myself and still about 190lbs onstage at 5'10  :-X

I thought you were going to "never compete again" after 4th out of 5  competitors in your last show?
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:26:15 PM
Evil Angel, you do look good but you are pumped full of illegal drugs. You and your woman spend hours turning each other into pin cushions as you inject your fixes.
We should make the point that Alex is natural which makes his pro-like size remarkable.
For more remarkable than a drug addict in a thong.

DeltaForce I respect your opinion, but if you think that Genetics and Nutrition and Training has anything to do with drugs you lack minimum understanding of Biochemistry. No Pill or drug can alter genetics or make you wake up at 5:00 am to do cardio...all this are factors that require genetics and determination. As I said before Alex has a very powerfull physique but to compare it to a Pro level size is pure ignorance to the max....the numbers to even add up close to it.....
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:28:54 PM
DeltaForce I respect your opinion, but if you think that Genetics and Nutrition and Training has anything to do with drugs you lack minimum understanding of Biochemistry. No Pill or drug can alter genetics or make you wake up at 5:00 am to do cardio...all this are factors that require genetics and determination. As I said before Alex has a very powerfull physique but to compare it to a Pro level size is pure ignorance to the max....the numbers to even add up close to it.....


yea, yea. blah blah. Every roid abuser's response.


It's a wonder you guys spend so much money and time/effort procuring and injecting these illegal drugs they do so little ;D ::)

And Alex did not say pro condition. he said pro size and if you look at the likes of dexter and lee, he has that size in spades.
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:31:04 PM
hahahaha -- for drug addicts it's not about giving it time, it's about upping the dosage
so he should tell him -- stick more shit in your ass take more steroids or take some other drugs

It is so difficult to talk with people that have absolutely no knowledge of science. Drugs will increase the hormonal level in your blood stream, they have no alter genetic power or ability to produce protein synthesis on its on it is required proper nutrition and training combine with Genetics to do so....But Losers Always find excuses to their lack of determination or genetics....It is like an Fat person blaming the world.
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Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 10:34:16 PM
Evil Angel, you do look good but you are pumped full of illegal drugs. You and your woman spend hours turning each other into pin cushions as you inject your fixes.
We should make the point that Alex is natural which makes his pro-like size remarkable.
For more remarkable than a drug addict in a thong.

Hope you are kidding with the Alex being pro-size comment - he himself most likely made it tongue-in-cheek. He was a big boy for sure, but nowhere near pro size. There's no natural here or anywhere who is. The pic below was taken at last year's Arnold Classic (I don't have the original one, lol!). As you can see, nowhere near pro size.
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:35:47 PM
It is so difficult to talk with people that have absolutely no knowledge of science. Drugs will increase the hormonal level in your blood stream, they have no alter genetic power or ability to produce protein synthesis on its on it is required proper nutrition and training combine with Genetics to do so....But Losers Always find excuses to their lack of determination or genetics....It is like an Fat person blaming the world.

Again, typical roiders melty response.

Again, I ask if they are so unimportant and tiny, why spend thousands of dollars on this shit? why search out new areas to inject this stuff because you've turned one site septic?

haha, you do this junkie shit because you are nothing without it and genetic response to hormones IS the major factor here and has been since they first started popping dbol.

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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:37:20 PM
Hope you are kidding with the Alex being pro-size comment - he himself most likely made it tongue-in-cheek. He was a big boy for sure, but nowhere near pro size. There's no natural here or anywhere who is. The pic below was taken at last year's Arnold Classic (I don't have the original one, lol!). As you can see, nowhere near pro size.

Kiwi , can you post me that pic of you sitting outside at a table with some blonde girl. I am searching for it but can't find ;D
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:38:29 PM
Alex is no where near Dexter Jackson or Lee Priest, let's keep realistic here
who cares, once they come off drugs they will look like the bottom twinks they were before they went on hahaha

Deltaforce....Let me educate you ...Will all due respect you do not know what you talking about. Bodybuilders lose large amounts of muscle due to the fact the the body has no need to keep that muscle it has no biological need for it so once the stimulus of intense training and nutrition is cease the body fast will get rid of the excess muscle that just requires large amounts of oxygen and calories to be sustain. Drugs play obviously a role but no Drugs will keep muscle without correct caloric intake and stimulus cause by training....
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:38:40 PM
Again, typical roiders melty response.

Again, I ask if they are so unimportant and tiny, why spend thousands of dollars on this shit? why search out new areas to inject this stuff because you've turned one site septic?

haha, you do this junkie shit because you are nothing without it and genetic response to hormones IS the major factor here and has been since they first started popping dbol.


LOL "melty"  ;D
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Post by: The Coach on January 28, 2009, 10:38:47 PM
What really sucks is....
















This has NOTHING to do with golf!!
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Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:41:06 PM
Deltaforce....Let me educate you ...Will all due respect you do not know what you talking about. Bodybuilders lose large amounts of muscle due to the fact the the body has no need to keep that muscle it has no biological need for it so once the stimulus of intense training and nutrition is cease the body fast will get rid of the excess muscle that just requires large amounts of oxygen and calories to be sustain. Drugs play obviously a role but no Drugs will keep muscle without correct caloric intake and stimulus cause by training....
You're saying that someone can get huge with drugs, then stop taking the drugs yet keep the muscular size as long as they keep training hard and get enough calories?
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Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 10:41:42 PM
Kiwi , can you post me that pic of you sitting outside at a table with some blonde girl. I am searching for it but can't find ;D

To show what? I was a skinny bitch who weighed a monstrous 180 lb? ;D

I'm not saying and have never said I'm pro size or anything stud. And again, no one's disputing the fact that A23 was a beast when he was training full blown. I use the past tense cause I haven't seen him post any new pics of his physique recently (unless I missed it). I am disagreeing with your notion that he is pro-size. No natural could ever be even close, unless you are comparing with some shitty pro like Kenny Jones. Pros who are the same height as Alex would out muscle him big time.

Could Alex be as big as a pro or even bigger than the 'average' pro if he juices? For sure. But is he that big now? Not even close. Just my opinion.
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Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:42:38 PM
Deltaforce....Let me educate you ...Will all due respect you do not know what you talking about. Bodybuilders lose large amounts of muscle due to the fact the the body has no need to keep that muscle it has no biological need for it so once the stimulus of intense training and nutrition is cease the body fast will get rid of the excess muscle that just requires large amounts of oxygen and calories to be sustain. Drugs play obviously a role but no Drugs will keep muscle without correct caloric intake and stimulus cause by training....

You aren't educating shit. In fact, your spelling and punctuation is like that of an 8 year old Nigerian.
You take massive amounts of drugs and so does your bitch.
You do this shit because you are nothing without it.
You try to downplay the importance of your illegal drug use because in reality - and deep down you know this - you are nothing without your drugs and your genetic response to them ;D
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:44:22 PM


they don't need to alter genetic power for protein synthesis "Evil Angel" you dipshit!
it's steroids, they are anabolic, the more you take the bigger you will be
mega dosing it + food + training equals monster
look at phil heath and what a monster he became after 3 years


No need to be disrespectful is ok if you disagree....But in base of what you say if you train like Phil eat like him and take his Drugs you would look like him in 3 years....Ok ...Please be real....It is guys here taking 3 times that and don't even look like half of his arm...Genetics rule this is not my opinion this is a fact. Not being arrogant here but I have a BS in Molecular Biology...so I believe that even so I have much to learn I am speaking with you with some background info.
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Post by: Kwon on January 28, 2009, 10:45:29 PM
just because you and Alex have the same bloated obese built doesn't mean you should defend him all the time.

Why doesn't it?
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:47:10 PM
You aren't educating shit. In fact, your spelling and punctuation is like that of an 8 year old Nigerian.
You take massive amounts of drugs and so does your bitch.
You do this shit because you are nothing without it.
You try to downplay the importance of your illegal drug use because in reality - and deep down you know this - you are nothing without your drugs and your genetic response to them ;D

Again....I am not here to offend you or disrespect you ....you can disagree with me. I am sorry about my Punctuation....English is not my first language. Well no one is obligating you to take anything...is a free world....More power to you.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 10:48:02 PM
Evil Angel: if pro bodybuilders keep training and eating they will not lose any size on no drugs


that is the stupidest thing I have heard a competitive bodybuilder say

That's not what he's saying. He says that if you train, eat and juice exactly the way Phil Heath does, you still aren't going to look like P Heath, which is correct.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:48:51 PM
No need to be disrespectful is ok if you disagree....But in base of what you say if you train like Phil eat like him and take his Drugs you would look like him in 3 years....Ok ...Please be real....It is guys here taking 3 times that and don't even look like half of his arm...Genetics rule this is not my opinion this is a fact. Not being arrogant here but I have a BS in Molecular Biology...so I believe that even so I have much to learn I am speaking with you with some background info.
Sure. Some people respond tremendously well to anabolic drugs, some don't respond at all. I think everyone agrees on that. Of course genetics would determine the body's response to the drugs.

However, no matter what the response is, as long as there is any, larger amounts will always cause more dramatic effect and vice versa. This is why the "standard" continues to raise, not because of training methods, etc..., but because of larger drug intake.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:49:22 PM


Could Alex be as big as a pro or even bigger than the 'average' pro if he juices? For sure. But is he that big now? Not even close. Just my opinion.

He said close to pro size. He did not say pro size or pro condition.

Look, even Bigbobs is matching Dexter.

Given that Alex said "close to" and did not claim a pros thongman condition, his statement holds.
We have to be fair to Alex here.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=260456.0;attach=301473;image)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
Evil Angel: if pro bodybuilders keep training and eating they will not lose any size on no drugs


that is the stupidest thing I have heard a competitive bodybuilder say


I am sorry, I believe you misunderstand me. What I said on my post what the lack of training and aggressive diet require to bodybuilding with produce very fast elimination of Muscle due to the body's lack of biological need to that excess muscle. The body hate have excess muscle it is useless to its survival....actually it make it harder due to oxygen and caloric requirements.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 10:52:34 PM
FFS -- kid, just because you're obese doesn't mean you should go bash people who are ripped and in great shape, shut the fuck up and diet down

Look at the picture. Otherwise, good posts from you but your jealousy of Alex is alarming.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:54:21 PM

care to explain this post Kiwiol?

Again.....no Drugs will keep muscle without correct caloric intake and stimulus cause by training....



Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 10:54:53 PM
He said close to pro size. He did not say pro size or pro condition.

Look, even Bigbobs is matching Dexter.

Given that Alex said "close to" and did not claim a pros thongman condition, his statement holds.
We have to be fair to Alex here.

Fair enough on the 'close to pro size' comment. As for BB and Dexter - get them to take their tops off and you'll see it's night and day between the look, size and muscularity of their individual muscle groups. It's not even close.


care to explain this post Kiwiol?

My bad - I was looking at the quote just below my post at the top of this page. And with this post, it looks like he's saying you can't maintain muscle with drugs only, while not eating or training to the extent required, which again sounds true to me. You say that he's claiming that you can maintain the mass without the drugs as long as he eats and trains properly, which I don't see anywhere in that post.

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'm just shooting the shit here.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: SHUTUPANDTRAIN on January 28, 2009, 10:55:26 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

Are we talking about your size or your 20 year old H1...LOL
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 10:56:01 PM
That's not what he's saying. He says that if you train, eat and juice exactly the way Phil Heath does, you still aren't going to look like P Heath, which is correct.

Obviously is hard for people to accept the obvious....that is exactly what I was saying.....
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Soundness on January 28, 2009, 10:57:58 PM
He said close to pro size. He did not say pro size or pro condition.

Look, even Bigbobs is matching Dexter.

Given that Alex said "close to" and did not claim a pros thongman condition, his statement holds.
We have to be fair to Alex here.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=260456.0;attach=301473;image)
Well, this is an illusion to be honest...

Dexter is turned sideways, Bigbobs is head-on. So, they look the same width.
If Dexter turned head-on just like Bigbobs is he would look far wider.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 11:00:23 PM
yes, I saw the picture some time ago, every body can get big and obese at the same time, it's nothing difficult
hell you can get big without even working out if you eat like a pig and gain 50% bodyfat, why would I be jealous?
165-170 contest shape he has a shit load of fat to lose -- as do you.

Has Deltsaforce posted his pics? Can you post them here or link me to them? Just curious as to what he looks like, that's all.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 28, 2009, 11:01:32 PM
yes, I saw the picture some time ago, every body can get big and obese at the same time, it's nothing difficult
hell you can get big without even working out if you eat like a pig and gain 50% bodyfat, why would I be jealous?
165-170 contest shape he has a shit load of fat to lose -- as do you.
Alex has a chest like two porterhouse steaks and a bench that is double yours. He may cut at some point but certainly not to put on sparkly panties,oil, tan, and pose for cheering males to assess his practically naked body and "mark" his weaknesses ::)


Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
::)

that's like saying no natural will keep muscle without training

are you saying that a person can keep muscle with amazing caloric intake and training but no drugs once the come off?

Drugs play an important role as they significantly increase Protein Synthesis allowing large amount of muscle grown, What many seem to fail to understand is the Protein requirements and timing are even more fundamental than hormonal elevation. It is like having a 100 engineers to build a building but very few workers. It is more important to have the workers. Obviously the more engineers the better but on its on they are useless. Bottom line 1-Genetics 2- Nutrition 3-Training 4- Specific Genetic response are much more fundamental than people one admit.....It is easy to say well I do not look like that Guy because I don't take what he takes. It is much harder to admit that he has better genetics and determination....Period.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 28, 2009, 11:14:04 PM
nice job stealing Milos Sarcev's words -- dude, you're a moon -- I'm not wasting anymore time responding back to an idiot such as you who has no idea
what they speak of.

You are right you probably know more than me. Well thanks for teaching me about Genetics.... 8) 8)
I know we are not going to agree, but you don't need to offend ....no need for that
Good Night!!!
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 12:25:53 AM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

u admit u r nt cut and dry so dont compare urself 2 the pros.. wht is gr8 2 reach the pro. size with ur fats??.. u r asking 4 advices,.. ok.. b big like a horse and not fat like a pig.. even a small horse is better than a big pig.. got it u bag of cotton??
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: SweetMuscles on January 29, 2009, 09:43:17 AM
Facts:

Alex looks fucking great - strong and like a real man, not some drug addled homo in panties. He earns more than all these tiny tits trying to bash him. Sheirief shitbaby is a third world nobody logged in at some stinky shithole cyber cafe soon to be bombed by the U.S.

Alex is currently enjoying married life with his stunning wife but I am taking names and there shall be severe repercussions and exposures of the cowards talking behind his broad back.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 29, 2009, 09:48:38 AM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)





Fuck these idiots who say "yeah man youre big at 245 but dry you will be like 180lbs tops..." You guys are freakin idiots. If Teh Alex looks like that at 245...i give him at lowest 200-205 to be absolutley ripped...

I swear getbig is home of some of the most hating ass bitches on the planet
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: BIG_STI on January 29, 2009, 10:22:31 AM
Fuck these idiots who say "yeah man youre big at 245 but dry you will be like 180lbs tops..." You guys are freakin idiots. If Teh Alex looks like that at 245...i give him at lowest 200-205 to be absolutley ripped...

I swear getbig is home of some of the most hating ass bitches on the planet

Those pics are what three years old? He is far more obese now.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on January 29, 2009, 10:24:04 AM
(http://ll-images.veoh.com/image.out?imageId=user-MaxBones43.jpg)

thats not alex.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on January 29, 2009, 02:19:01 PM
thats not alex.

lol  ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 29, 2009, 02:54:49 PM
Fuck these idiots who say "yeah man youre big at 245 but dry you will be like 180lbs tops..." You guys are freakin idiots. If Teh Alex looks like that at 245...i give him at lowest 200-205 to be absolutley ripped...

I swear getbig is home of some of the most hating ass bitches on the planet

nice to see you stopping the hate      my snipping your balls a while back made you submit

boom
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on January 29, 2009, 03:51:34 PM
Ron really needs to ban Alex's gimmicks, this is ridiculous.  This is just a few posters and Alex talking to himself.

jt
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: calfzilla on January 29, 2009, 03:56:22 PM
Alex's strong chest really helps give the illusion he is more massive than he really is.  Impressive dude. 
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
Facts:

Alex looks fucking great - strong and like a real man, not some drug addled homo in panties. He earns more than all these tiny tits trying to bash him. Sheirief shitbaby is a third world nobody logged in at some stinky shithole cyber cafe soon to be bombed by the U.S.

Alex is currently enjoying married life with his stunning wife but I am taking names and there shall be severe repercussions and exposures of the cowards talking behind his broad back.

really his wife is beautful??.. gr8 so he will stop fuking ur mther..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: calfzilla on January 29, 2009, 04:07:26 PM
really his wife is beautful??.. gr8 so he will stop fuking ur mther..
Pics or it never happened. 
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Stark on January 29, 2009, 04:11:04 PM
Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

ha in that regard I am like you man, I will never be cut I was always evern as a child big not fat (the fat came later) but big, always had a very wide chest, I think I'm ok with being just big and not model type cut.
Don't want to leave the impression I'm as big as you are, I am not, but we probably have the same bodytypes,
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 04:11:27 PM
Pics or it never happened. 

dont 4get tht the idiot who said she is beautiful is the same idiot who sees alex's body as a gr8 one so dont take his opinion seriously..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 29, 2009, 04:12:32 PM
really his wife is beautful??.. gr8 so he will stop fuking ur mther..

yor mother is a smelly old goat that has had a hundred cheesy arab dicks in her putrid, rotting hole
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 29, 2009, 04:24:50 PM
nice to see you stopping the hate      my snipping your balls a while back made you submit

boom

No woman...It goes like this as it always has...Just because you talk like a woman about me and call me small and what not and then the entire board says otherwise...Thats all comming from a place of hate g..See the thing about you is...check this out (as i take a pull from a square)...the thing about you is...you let this shit get to you and polorize you...like a female...but me on the other hand...if i see hatin i call it out no matter who it is..The mal is neutral...I give props where props are due even if you are a (drama queen, crazy ass, internet stalkin, crybaby, milti gimmick, having joke of a man).no more no less...But you on the other hand so blinded by your want to be the center of getbig attention wont let you see clearly...dude you want me to call you the king od getbig...boom there you go ..you won..damn you are like a woman chief...seriously
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 29, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
No woman...It goes like this as it always has...Just because you talk like a woman about me and call me small and what not and then the entire board says otherwise...Thats all comming from a place of hate g..See the thing about you is...check this out (as i take a pull from a square)...the thing about you is...you let this shit get to you and polorize you...like a female...but me on the other hand...if i see hatin i call it out no matter who it is..The mal is neutral...I give props where props are due even if you are a (drama queen, crazy ass, internet stalkin, crybaby, milti gimmick, having joke of a man).no more no less...But you on the other hand so blinded by your want to be the center of getbig attention wont let you see clearly...dude you want me to call you the king od getbig...boom there you go ..you won..damn you are like a woman chief...seriously

 ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 04:46:22 PM
yor mother is a smelly old goat that has had a hundred cheesy arab dicks in her putrid, rotting hole

and y r u angry mthr fukr??.. does alex fuk ur mother too??.. but isnt she old and finished 10s of years ago?? i belive no one would accept 2 fuk her but u.. but unfortunately u r a gay so ur mother's hungry pussy will remain cockless till she die :D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Croatch on January 29, 2009, 04:47:02 PM
Thanks Will I appreciate your input. But I think you're over estimating how massive I am. Here I am standing at 235... comfortably lean...

Why would I be 4% of 'bodyfat' anyway? Isn't it unhealthy?

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web12.jpg)
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff301/torquer23/_web8.jpg)





NO way man!! You're on gear for sure.  I weigh 218lbs natural, so there's no possible way anyone could have better genetics or be bigger!!!
 ::)  Nice work Alex.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on January 29, 2009, 04:49:37 PM
and y r u angry mthr fukr??.. does alex fuk ur mother too??.. but isnt she old and finished 10s of years ago?? i belive no one would accept 2 fuk her but u.. but unfortunately u r a gay so ur mother's hungry pussy will remain cockless till she die :D
Why do all your posts hav Refs to "fucking your mother"?

Oh maybe it has somthing to do with you living by this shit..

Quote
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran,
1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he
should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.
[...] It is better for a girl to marry in such a time when she would begin menstruation at
her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young
will have a permanent place in heaven. How it all began ( a long time ago in the isolated
deserts of Arabia) : Already, when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 29, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
and y r u angry mthr fukr??.. does alex fuk ur mother too??.. but isnt she old and finished 10s of years ago?? i belive no one would accept 2 fuk her but u.. but unfortunately u r a gay so ur mother's hungry pussy will remain cockless till she die :D
haha you don't even make sense. I have had better conversations with dead muslims all shot to shit in the streets of Baghdad by American heroes. Have fun in your third world shithole.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 04:52:58 PM
haha you don't even make sense. I have had better conversations with dead muslims all shot to shit in the streets of Baghdad by American heroes. Have fun in your third world shithole.


do u call the mthr fukr who kill harmless civilians "heros"??.. good 4 u and the 1st world u live in!!..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: big L dawg on January 29, 2009, 04:53:25 PM
Fuck these idiots who say "yeah man youre big at 245 but dry you will be like 180lbs tops..." You guys are freakin idiots. If Teh Alex looks like that at 245...i give him at lowest 200-205 to be absolutley ripped...

I swear getbig is home of some of the most hating ass bitches on the planet

I don't know man.there's some on here that think a natural can only be ripped at the bodyweight of an average 12 year old.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 29, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
do u call the mthr fukr who kill harmless civilians "heros"??.. good 4 u and the 1st world u live in!!..

I praise all American heroes who put their lives on the line to liberate inferior people. An American life is worth more than the whole of the middle east.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Jeffro on January 29, 2009, 04:57:16 PM
do u call the mthr fukr who kill harmless civilians "heros"??.. good 4 u and the 1st world u live in!!..
Fuck off, you smelly Arab shitbag, take your terrorist propaganda elsewhere.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 05:00:38 PM
I praise all American heroes who put their lives on the line to liberate inferior people. An American life is worth more than the whole of the middle east.

do u call killing thousands of innocent iraqi kids and civilians sleeping in their homes liberating them??.. also the majority of ur heros fight mainly 4 money and dont give a shit 2 even knw wht is going on..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Relentless on January 29, 2009, 05:01:37 PM
do u call killing thousands of innocent iraqi kids and civilians sleeping in their homes liberating them??.. also the majority of ur heros fight mainly 4 money and dont give a shit 2 even knw wht is going on..

...and its very little money as well.  Poor people killing poorer people for money.  Sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 05:02:42 PM
Fuck off, you smelly Arab shitbag, take your terrorist propaganda elsewhere.

y r u angry mthr fukr.. ws ur brother or sister killed in iraq or wht??..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 29, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
do u call killing thousands of innocent iraqi kids and civilians sleeping in their homes liberating them??

yes, liberating them from being stinking, smelly, inferior shit smelling muslims who can make more of their kind.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 05:09:20 PM
...and its very little money as well.  Poor people killing poorer people for money.  Sad state of affairs.

very true.. but again wthout money no one would go 2 fight.. since the ww2 usa hasn't entered any rightful war!!..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 29, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
yes, liberating them from being stinking, smelly, inferior shit smelling muslims who can make more of their kind.

it's nt funny 2 mock helpless poor ppl..
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on January 29, 2009, 05:45:17 PM
it's nt funny 2 mock helpless poor ppl..
Why do you converse like a 10 year old girl with a cell phone Sharif Smelly?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 29, 2009, 06:41:01 PM
::)

awesome comeback...teh mal wins.....again
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 29, 2009, 06:55:22 PM
awesome comeback...teh mal wins.....again

Only in cyberland. In reality you are a broke loser and Alex is a high achiever. Switch off your crappy computer and Alex pwns you in every single way.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 29, 2009, 08:18:47 PM
awesome comeback...teh mal wins.....again

you lose 

long live the great king23    the celtic warrior owns your mind ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: slacker on January 29, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Because CM was talking about 150pd pros,,these guys get dwn to 5% or lower.
Yes its very unhealthy..that really brings into perspective the guys that get on stage at those low bf levels.thats a shitload of muscle.

I think if you went down to 220 ish pounds at close to 10 % bf you would look like an animal..
A 17 inch arm ripped would look bigger than a fat 18- 19 inch arm..

Again mate not hating just keeping it real.  :)
tacobelly wants to know if your single
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on January 29, 2009, 09:37:31 PM
tacobelly wants to know if your single
Are you a closeted homosexual like sevatase? you know always dropping the gay angle into things..
You are quite  creepy , taking someone knowns identity and pretending to be them on a message board..  :-\
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 30, 2009, 08:08:58 AM
Only in cyberland. In reality you are a broke loser and Alex is a high achiever. Switch off your crappy computer and Alex pwns you in every single way.
wow...you lost your swag....its just sad now...Where is Squadfather...I need a worthy foe
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: MAXX on January 30, 2009, 08:43:16 AM
it's not hard to be close to pro size naturally. just look at that Pelluttier guy or what ever his name is.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Sharma on January 30, 2009, 09:41:09 AM
you lose 

long live the great king23    the celtic warrior owns your mind ;D


I have no idea if you are Alex or just you try to look like you are him but I do know that it is very true that away from the computers and big talk, when the Blockhead challenged Alex , Alex went very red faced, nervous and he profusely apologized and was actually very frightened. He backed down instantly.

Apparently people there were embarrassed for Alex. I find this story to be very amusing to me ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 30, 2009, 09:49:44 AM

I have no idea if you are Alex or just you try to look like you are him but I do know that it is very true that away from the computers and big talk, when the Blockhead challenged Alex , Alex went very red faced, nervous and he profusely apologized and was actually very frightened. He backed down instantly.

that is a lie shane and you know it     thats not what happened    not even close
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on January 30, 2009, 09:51:11 AM
that is a lie shane and you know it     thats not what happened    not even close
Were you there?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: benz on January 30, 2009, 09:51:24 AM

I have no idea if you are Alex or just you try to look like you are him but I do know that it is very true that away from the computers and big talk, when the Blockhead challenged Alex , Alex went very red faced, nervous and he profusely apologized and was actually very frightened. He backed down instantly.
Apparently people there were embarrassed for Alex. I find this story to be very amusing to me ;D

Proof?
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Dreadlord on January 30, 2009, 09:58:17 AM
it's nt funny 2 mock helpless poor ppl..

Its pretty funny to mock you though ;D

Damn,  Chalabi is getting smashed in every thread he posts in. He may have surpassed sharma's record of getting beaten to a bloody pulp every time he ventures on getbig
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 30, 2009, 09:59:12 AM
Were you there?

Yes ...he was
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 30, 2009, 10:06:08 AM
fucking pathetic! -- Big Mark C, DeltaForce, Sweetmuscles are all Alex 23 gimmicks!

king23 hasnt logged in here for 10 days ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on January 30, 2009, 10:08:05 AM
fucking pathetic! -- Big Mark C, DeltaForce, Sweetmuscles are all Alex 23 gimmicks!

Alex23 is the fucking king around here, show some respect.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 30, 2009, 10:08:55 AM
Alex23 is the fucking king around here, show some respect.

x2
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on January 30, 2009, 10:10:03 AM
x2

All these guys are jealous of Alex23's alpha male status, incredible wealth and physical beauty
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Option D on January 30, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
wow -- talking to his own gimmciks -- fucking pathetic!
the only person who thinks you're a king is yourself you fat douche
I liked you but you're starting to get as annoying as a fat black lady singing with all these stupid gimmicks Alex
Tone it down

yeah...he is unexplainably lame....
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: jtsunami on January 30, 2009, 12:24:06 PM
wow -- talking to his own gimmciks -- fucking pathetic!
the only person who thinks you're a king is yourself you fat douche
I liked you but you're starting to get as annoying as a fat black lady singing with all these stupid gimmicks Alex
Tone it down

agreed
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Earl1972 on January 30, 2009, 12:51:32 PM
Facts:

Alex looks fucking great - strong and like a real man, not some drug addled homo in panties. He earns more than all these tiny tits trying to bash him. Sheirief shitbaby is a third world nobody logged in at some stinky shithole cyber cafe soon to be bombed by the U.S.

Alex is currently enjoying married life with his stunning wife but I am taking names and there shall be severe repercussions and exposures of the cowards talking behind his broad back.

if i said this about Mr. Levrone you would call me a homo

takes one to know one i guess :P

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Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Big Mark C on January 30, 2009, 12:54:59 PM
yeah...he is unexplainably lame....

 ::)
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on January 30, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
King Alex hasn't logged on for 10 days and has not used a gimmick account for over a year.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Earl1972 on January 30, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
King Alex hasn't logged on for 10 days and has not used a gimmick account for over a year.

and how would you know mr. member since october 08?

gimmicks are for the weak

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Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: SweetMuscles on January 30, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
fucking pathetic! -- Big Mark C, DeltaForce, Sweetmuscles are all Alex 23 gimmicks!

STFU you "fucking pathetic" gimmick tool. I'm not Alex, he doesn't need gimmicks to own gimmicks like you into oblivion.
The guy just got married and works an important job, he doesn't have time to play cyber games with losers 24/7.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: chaos on January 30, 2009, 09:12:06 PM
I called Alex earlier, he said these tiny tits riding his jock are not his gimmicks and he's kind of creeped out that some anonymous guys are lusting after him this way.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Jeffro on January 31, 2009, 01:35:26 AM
fucking pathetic! -- Big Mark C, DeltaForce, Sweetmuscles are all Alex 23 gimmicks!
The question is, who's gimmick are you? ::)

Gotta love the delusional pussy gimmick trying to call others pathetic for having gimmicks, truly sad really.  Maybe it's time to take a break from Getbig and reevalute your life, you demented fucktard. :-\
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Mars on January 31, 2009, 05:19:11 AM
people who speak out against the great Alex will be noted.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 31, 2009, 08:10:31 AM
The question is, who's gimmick are you? ::)

Gotta love the delusional pussy gimmick trying to call others pathetic for having gimmicks, truly sad really.  Maybe it's time to take a break from Getbig and reevalute your life, you demented fucktard. :-\

very good post
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: danielson on January 31, 2009, 05:55:46 PM
fucking pathetic! -- Big Mark C, DeltaForce, Sweetmuscles are all Alex 23 gimmicks!

They are not his gimmicks. It amazes me that people would even think that. Alex has a tendency of fucking up certain words and phrases, none of the gimmicks make the same grammatical errors.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: WillGrant on January 31, 2009, 06:10:27 PM
They are not his gimmicks. It amazes me that people would even think that. Alex has a tendency of fucking up certain words and phrases, none of the gimmicks make the same grammatical errors.
who uses -- in there posts? though im pretty sure thats just a deflection and AXA is in fact upjacked
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Master Blaster on January 31, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
Lookin big Alex. You'd have quite a bit of muscle for a natural pro.  ;)

 ;D
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 01, 2009, 07:22:25 AM
Gotta say alex23,if you are indeed natural,you have some very impressive size
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2009, 07:27:30 AM
people who speak out against the great Alex will be noted.

indeed.
Title: Re: I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 01, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
Gotta say alex23,if you are indeed natural,you have some very impressive size

he's lifetime natty. has family members in  the medical profession who have seen firsthand the dangers of steroid abuse.
he does not judge people for it but would not take them.
and the board is starting to suck badly without him posting.