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Title: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 11:56:05 AM
Seems to be a lot of debate for and against this question....so here it is for all those who may know or have discussed with pros the question at hand?  Do pro's not use protein powder at all?  Not even after their workouts for a quick and effecient hit of protein?  Damn this would blow my mind but I think its very possible with no FDA regulations and not knowing whats really in our overpriced tubs....Please discuss...(and if they dont use it than they just eat whole meals right after always?)
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 15, 2009, 11:59:50 AM
you want these members of getbig.com to tell you what pro bodybuilders, all of them, eat or take after their workouts?

going for a longshot here arntcha.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: liquid_c on January 15, 2009, 12:00:27 PM
Most probably do, some don't.  No need for a big debate.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: bigbobs on January 15, 2009, 12:02:22 PM
The Three Times Uncrowned (at least) Mr. Olympia told me that during his competitive years he did use protein.  He did not really count calories or protein in take but said "the more protein the better."  He did slack at times and not eat much protein only when he felt sick of it, but recommended high protein for growth and especially when dieting to preserve muscle.  Now that he's retired he does not use protein powder or even really watch his protein intake either.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 15, 2009, 12:03:33 PM
Seems to be a lot of debate for and against this question....so here it is for all those who may know or have discussed with pros the question at hand?  Do pro's not use protein powder at all?  Not even after their workouts for a quick and effecient hit of protein?  Damn this would blow my mind but I think its very possible with no FDA regulations and not knowing whats really in our overpriced tubs....Please discuss...(and if they dont use it than they just eat whole meals right after always?)
Of course the use protein powder. Try eating 4000 calories a day that is fairly clean and you will get pretty tired of eating meat.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 15, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Of course the use protein powder. Try eating 4000 calories a day that is fairly clean and you will get pretty tired of eating meat.

try eating 6000-7000 calories a day and not getting tired of eating

edit: and i'm eating a 60 gram protein sub right now, roast beef, turkey, ham, provolone cheese, wheat bread
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 15, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
try eating 6000-7000 calories a day and not getting tired of eating

edit: and i'm eating a 60 gram protein sub right now, roast beef, turkey, ham, provolone cheese, wheat bread
Post contest i can keep that up for about 2 months but after that i can't hahahaha. 4000 calories should be more then enough to take me up to 200 pounds though but its not working out very well.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 12:09:09 PM
Seems to be a lot of debate for and against this question....so here it is for all those who may know or have discussed with pros the question at hand?  Do pro's not use protein powder at all?  Not even after their workouts for a quick and effecient hit of protein?  Damn this would blow my mind but I think its very possible with no FDA regulations and not knowing whats really in our overpriced tubs....Please discuss...(and if they dont use it than they just eat whole meals right after always?)

pro's should be wallstreet players, they are good at lying my friend

Hows the dream in canada Tbunzee?
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: calfzilla on January 15, 2009, 12:09:15 PM
The Three Times Uncrowned (at least) Mr. Olympia told me that during his competitive years he did use protein.  He did not really count calories or protein in take but said "the more protein the better."  He did slack at times and not eat much protein only when he felt sick of it, but recommended high protein for growth and especially when dieting to preserve muscle.  Now that he's retired he does not use protein powder or even really watch his protein intake either.
Yeah the more proteing the better chance he will have of heavily soiling his underwear which increases the value on the schmoe market.  Seriously, I think most pro bodybuilders get their protein straight from the tap. 
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 15, 2009, 12:10:08 PM
Post contest i can keep that up for about 2 months but after that i can't hahahaha. 4000 calories should be more then enough to take me up to 200 pounds though but its not working out very well.

ive lost 30 lbs and i'm eating that much now. Theres so much food in me, i can throw up just by thinking about it. Next meal is 4 chicken breasts, green beans, and potatos, at exactly 4:30 (hour and half).

I'm not bragging, it sucks balls, i hate eating.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 12:10:24 PM
The ones I have asked about it seem to take it 3-4 times a day, 3 scoops usually.

Not because they love it, but because
1) it's usually free (they give it away at expos, companies send them freebies, or they endorse), and that beats buying tilipia by the case
2) it helps them to keep their bodyweight up
3) Your body CAN use 500 grams when you're offseason on gear.  It stops being effective at 300 or 350 grams when you're natural.


What's amusing is the stuff that some guys give to their friends.  Chat it up with a pro at the gym.  He probably has 4 tubs of almost expired crap flavored protein in his trunk that he can't give away
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 12:11:28 PM
The Three Times Uncrowned (at least) Mr. Olympia told me that during his competitive years he did use protein.  He did not really count calories or protein in take but said "the more protein the better."  He did slack at times and not eat much protein only when he felt sick of it, but recommended high protein for growth and especially when dieting to preserve muscle.  Now that he's retired he does not use protein powder or even really watch his protein intake either.

nasser is the man for a lot of reasons...

most of all, the fact that he was so smart with his $ during his competitive years.

smart guy.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Reign Down on January 15, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
ive lost 30 lbs and i'm eating that much now. Theres so much food in me, i can throw up just by thinking about it. Next meal is 4 chicken breasts, green beans, and potatos, at exactly 4:30 (hour and half).

I'm not bragging, it sucks balls, i hate eating.

Well stop fucking eating then, you're not Mr Olympia!


ta ta
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 15, 2009, 12:14:21 PM
Pro's only use protein powder/drinks/NOS/otc supplements when their sponsors camera is rolling.

Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Protein powder is probably the MOST used supplement of the pro's....the simple reason is that it's tough to actually eat enough food/ enough meals to get in the amount of protein we use in our contest prep...

As for all this talk of "no regulations"....trust me, they are subject to all kinds of testing/ lableing/ etc.

Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: stormshadow on January 15, 2009, 12:25:03 PM
try eating 6000-7000 calories a day and not getting tired of eating

edit: and i'm eating a 60 gram protein sub right now, roast beef, turkey, ham, provolone cheese, wheat bread

You are probably lucky if you are getting 30g.  Those processed deli meats are GARBAGE.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: bigbobs on January 15, 2009, 12:25:50 PM
nasser is the man for a lot of reasons...

most of all, the fact that he was so smart with his $ during his competitive years.

smart guy.

Exactly - and you're absolutely correct in your earlier post about freebies.  At Nasser's place I saw many drawers and cabinets literally full of unopened Weider supplements - glutamine, amino acids, you name it.  One can only use so much and it's less than what they get for free.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: liquid_c on January 15, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
Protein powder is probably the MOST used supplement of the pro's....the simple reason is that it's tough to actually eat enough food/ enough meals to get in the amount of protein we use in our contest prep...

As for all this talk of "no regulations"....trust me, they are subject to all kinds of testing/ lableing/ etc.



Yes, you can go to many sites and they even have independent lab reports done that you can view/download.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Tony Doherty on January 15, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
Every pro I have had here touring or competing has protein shakes.

Last year Dexter, Melvin, Toney, Troy and Moe  all bought protein as soon as they landed as it sometimes gets confiscated at customs as you cant bring food into Oz. Ronnie always had his shakes. As Bob said it is too hard to get all that protein through food alone. I might add that the guys were having protein before and after the shows.

Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 15, 2009, 12:33:42 PM
You are probably lucky if you are getting 30g.  Those processed deli meats are GARBAGE.

they do have a lot of sodium in them, yeah, but universities (at least mine) are big on keeping nutrition info for just about any food that can be found on campus, even the different types of nutrition of lettuce at the dining hall salad bar are posted.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: kiwiol on January 15, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Exactly - and you're absolutely correct in your earlier post about freebies.  At Nasser's place I saw many drawers and cabinets literally full of unopened Weider supplements - glutamine, amino acids, you name it.  One can only use so much and it's less than what they get for free.

I'd say he's one of the few exceptions, BB. There's a trend in Getbig to scoff at protein supplements, saying they are all crap. As long as it's used to complement a wholesome diet, it's great and has been proven to be so.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: liquid_c on January 15, 2009, 12:36:26 PM
I'd say he's one of the few exceptions, BB. There's a trend in Getbig to scoff at protein supplements, saying they are all crap. As long as it's used to complement a wholesome diet, it's great and has been proven to be so.

Couldn't have said it any better. 
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: QuakerOats on January 15, 2009, 12:44:39 PM
offseason pros eat everything that isn't nailed down, lots of pizza, cheeseburgers, chinese and italian.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: spinnis on January 15, 2009, 12:45:56 PM
Pros doesnt use, HyDRZoOOZoOXOOXO Cut 20004Tubrochjarger 500 BOOM bada bing cut.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: MCWAY on January 15, 2009, 01:57:15 PM
Says who?

Many of them not only take them but they consume them in HUGE quantities, the cost of which would drive most of us into bankruptcy.

I remember the “Probing the Pros” section of MuscleMag International. Each month, 12 pro bodybuilders (technically, it was 11 pros and one top amateur) would answer a question fielded by a reader, picked by Robert Kennedy.

When it came to protein consumption, many of the pros there consumed MET-Rx, the most popular MRP at that time. However, unlike the recommendation on the box, these guys were taking at least 8 packets of MET-Rx a day, IN ADDITION TO their regular meals.

Last time I checked, 8 packets of MET-Rx contained just under 300 grams of protein.

A couple of FLEX issues ago, there was an article on Eddie Abbew, who claims to have a small appetite for food. So, he actually blends his meat up and mixes it with water, in order to drink his calories. Abbew claims that his blender, "smells like @$$"; in fact, after getting a whiff of the blender in which Abbew prepares lunch, fellow pro, Darrem Charles, nearly lost his.

As for Bigbob's comment, there are a handful of posters whom MidniteRambo described as a “whole food-ist” cult, folk who think they’re more “hardcore” because they don’t use supplements at all, or at the very least, they don’t use such from certain companies (i.e. MuscleTech).

I would add to this that other posters here seem to use the steroids excuse as to why they won't implement certain often-discussed, tried-and-true nutritional strategies to help them get bigger.

Let them tell it, consuming high protein levels (say 300-400 g per day) only works for steroid users; using intra-workout drinks (with high carbs, creatine, aminos, etc) only works for steroids users, etc., etc.

Suggest that they up their protein intake, and they'll sail the seven seas, looking for examples of people with muscular people, who don't eat as much protein as some have recommended. That may indeed work for those individuals. But, if it ain't effective for those particular posters, citing such people is utterly pointless.

Many of us are quite familiar with Ronnie Coleman's mantra, "Everybody want to be a bodybuilder; but don't nobody want to lift no heavy-@$$ weight". I'd say a similar thing applies, when it comes to nutrition. Some folks don't want to eat no "heavy-@$$" food, namely the quality and QUANTITY of carbs, fat, and especially PROTEIN that they need to grow (whether they use steroids or go/stay "natty").
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: QuakerOats on January 15, 2009, 01:59:13 PM
Says who?

Many of them not only take them but they consume them in HUGE quantities, the cost of which would drive most of us into bankruptcy.

I remember the “Probing the Pros” section of MuscleMag International. Each month, 12 pro bodybuilders (technically, it was 11 pros and one top amateur) would answer a question fielded by a reader, picked by Robert Kennedy.

When it came to protein consumption, many of the pros there consumed MET-Rx, the most popular MRP at that time. However, unlike the recommendation on the box, these guys were taking at least 8 packets of MET-Rx a day, IN ADDITION TO their regular meals.

Last time I checked, 8 packets of MET-Rx contained just under 300 grams of protein.

A couple of FLEX issues ago, there was an article on Eddie Abbew, who claims to have a small appetite for food. So, he actually blends his meat up and mixes it with water, in order to drink his calories. Abbew claims that his blender, "smells like @$$"; in fact, after getting a whiff of the blender in which Abbew prepares lunch, fellow pro, Darrem Charles, nearly lost his.

As for Bigbob's comment, there are a handful of posters whom MidniteRambo described as a “whole food-ist” cult, folk who think they’re more “hardcore” because they don’t use supplements at all, or at the very least, they don’t use such from certain companies (i.e. MuscleTech).

I would add to this that other posters here seem to use the steroids excuse as to why they won't implement certain often-discussed, tried-and-true nutritional strategies to help them get bigger.

Let them tell it, consuming high protein levels (say 300-400 g per day) only works for steroid users; using intra-workout drinks (with high carbs, creatine, aminos, etc) only works for steroids users, etc., etc.

Suggest that they up their protein intake, and they'll sail the seven seas, looking for examples of people with muscular people, who don't eat as much protein as some have recommended. That may indeed work for those individuals. But, if it ain't effective for those particular posters, citing such people is utterly pointless.

Many of us are quite familiar with Ronnie Coleman's mantra, "Everybody want to be a bodybuilder; but don't nobody want to lift no heavy-@$$ weight". I'd say a similar thing applies, when it comes to nutrition. Some folks don't want to eat no "heavy-@$$" food, namely the quality and QUANTITY of carbs, fat, and especially PROTEIN that they need to grow (whether they use steroids or go/stay "natty").

ANYONE can force feed, simplest thing in the world, chew up the food and chase it down with a swig of water like swallowing a big pill.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 15, 2009, 02:08:49 PM
The Three Times Uncrowned (at least) Mr. Olympia told me that during his competitive years he did use protein.  He did not really count calories or protein in take but said "the more protein the better."  He did slack at times and not eat much protein only when he felt sick of it, but recommended high protein for growth and especially when dieting to preserve muscle.  Now that he's retired he does not use protein powder or even really watch his protein intake either.

Nasser said he only ate around 100 grams of protein in the offseason.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: bigbobs on January 15, 2009, 02:11:09 PM
Nasser said he only ate around 100 grams of protein in the offseason.

You misunderstood whatever you read to believe that - true on the odd day here or there he only got in about 100 grams, but that was not his consistent intake!  Like I said some days he would slack as he got sick of protein easily, but generally ate lots of protein during his competitive years.  When dieting he would get in about 600 grams of protein per day.  Nowdays in retirement he consistently eats about 100 grams only.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: liquid_c on January 15, 2009, 02:13:32 PM
Good old Metrx.  God that stuff is/was as thick as hell but good.  I bet if you knew it's exact %'s of different powders and ingredents, you could make a near clone of it on like trueprotein.com
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: tbombz on January 15, 2009, 02:15:25 PM
Good old Metrx.  God that stuff is/was as thick as hell but good.  I bet if you knew it's exact %'s of different powders and ingredents, you could make a near clone of it on like trueprotein.com
no i dont think one could. that was a pretty detailed ingredient list with exact amounts of key ingredients in for precise reason. metRX is as effective as sarcev describes his shakes to be...and thats effective !  ;D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 15, 2009, 02:16:17 PM
You misunderstood whatever you read to believe that - true on the odd day here or there he only got in about 100 grams, but that was not his consistent intake!  Like I said some days he would slack as he got sick of protein easily, but generally ate lots of protein during his competitive years.  When dieting he would get in about 600 grams of protein per day.  Nowdays in retirement he consistently eats about 100 grams only.

Read the BBing.com interviews. Dieting is a different story.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 02:16:24 PM
Wow what great info here as many getbiggers have awesome real info on the pros and their protien powder intake.....this original debate was sparked by Mobil who called me a newbie who didnt know anything because I said pro's do indeed use protien powder and he said they dont take the stuff ever except for videos and commercials...So after the official word discussed within this thread and people above and beyond your knowledge the final word is your wrong and I was right....so settle down Mobilbitch and stop acting like a know it all when your clueless bud...
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: bigbobs on January 15, 2009, 02:20:20 PM
Read the BBing.com interviews. Dieting is a different story.

I have read them.  Like I said, he generally ate lots of in the offseason, but occasionally slacked and got little protein in some days (100 grams of protein or even less), but that was not near his consistent daily intake.  If you claim he said otherwise in any interview, please post the excerpt here.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: GigantorX on January 15, 2009, 02:47:29 PM
Exactly - and you're absolutely correct in your earlier post about freebies.  At Nasser's place, before I ate his asshole out, I saw many drawers and cabinets literally full of unopened Weider supplements - glutamine, amino acids, you name it.  One can only use so much and it's less than what they get for free.

Very interesting BigBobs.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: kyomu on January 15, 2009, 03:07:37 PM
Well, Paco uses protein powder though..
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Tomanater on January 15, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
drinking my post shake right now..also have one before bed and sometimes in the middle of the night....cant imagine not having shakes wouldnt be able to get in the all the protein I need.....the only time i maybe cut them out is as I approach a contest.
D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Bobby on January 15, 2009, 04:04:41 PM
drinking my post shake right now..also have one before bed and sometimes in the middle of the night....cant imagine not having shakes wouldnt be able to get in the all the protein I need.....the only time i maybe cut them out is as I approach a contest.
D

what is in your post shake?
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Tomanater on January 15, 2009, 04:31:22 PM
what is in your post shake?
50gr from isolate...+ BCAAs
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: knny187 on January 15, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
protein is overrated
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: flagadajones on January 15, 2009, 05:29:14 PM
Protein powder is probably the MOST used supplement of the pro's....the simple reason is that it's tough to actually eat enough food/ enough meals to get in the amount of protein we use in our contest prep...

As for all this talk of "no regulations"....trust me, they are subject to all kinds of testing/ lableing/ etc.


what a fucking liar you are, it's mind blowing  :D

talk about being a perfect representative for bodybuilding.com online suplement store !
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2009, 05:35:12 PM
It is what it is, bro....no need to lie...protein powder is THEE most consumed supplement there is.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
Wow what great info here as many getbiggers have awesome real info on the pros and their protien powder intake.....this original debate was sparked by Mobil who called me a newbie who didnt know anything because I said pro's do indeed use protien powder and he said they dont take the stuff ever except for videos and commercials...So after the official word discussed within this thread and people above and beyond your knowledge the final word is your wrong and I was right....so settle down Mobilbitch and stop acting like a know it all when your clueless bud...

all the way big, big tbunzee!

It is what it is, bro....no need to lie...protein powder is THEE most consumed supplement there is.

If i drink 1000 protein shakes, do you think i could win mr o? lol
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: flagadajones on January 15, 2009, 05:41:41 PM
It is what it is, bro....no need to lie...protein powder is THEE most consumed supplement there is.
yeah but by natural newcommers who believe the juiced guys they see in the ads built their muscle mass using useless powders...

well that's the point of the whole thing isnt it?
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Stavios on January 15, 2009, 05:42:27 PM
offseason pros eat everything that isn't nailed down, lots of pizza, cheeseburgers, chinese and italian.

exactly !

to follow their example, I am eating a big bowl of general tao chicken as I type this with some rice  8)
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: luvvsuNOT on January 15, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
Protein powder is probably the MOST used supplement of the pro's....the simple reason is that it's tough to actually eat enough food/ enough meals to get in the amount of protein we use in our contest prep...

As for all this talk of "no regulations"....trust me, they are subject to all kinds of testing/ lableing/ etc.



Truth!
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: GetItOnNY on January 15, 2009, 05:56:10 PM
Alot of pro builders do use protein powder.Trust me, they are on my shipping log.I cant mention any names because they are endorsed by other companies.Just ask Dante from True Protein he will tell you.I bet you Dante like me ships to atleast a dozen or so pro athletes.Pro bodybuilders mostly use Whey Protein Isolate, and Waxey Maze Starch.Thats what I have the most requests for.The more advanced and intelligent ones will add Beta Casein, Egg Protein or Milk Isolates.
90% of the times its low carb Whey Protein Isolate they want.Most of them after training use Whey Protein Isolate with Waxey Maze Starch.
If you are a 200lb man and you want a awesome recovery blend.Take 30 grams of Whey Protein Isolate,60 grams of Waxey Maze Starch, 10 grams of L-Glutamine, 5 grams of BCAA's, and 2 grams of Beta Alanine.Then pop 3 grams of Vitamin C
This will give you excellent recovery, and cover give your body everything it needs to grow aswell as recover
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 15, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
Alot of pro builders do use protein powder.Trust me, they are on my shipping log.I cant mention any names because they are endorsed by other companies.Just ask Dante from True Protein he will tell you.I bet you Dante like me ships to atleast a dozen or so pro athletes.Pro bodybuilders mostly use Whey Protein Isolate, and Waxey Maze Starch.Thats what I have the most requests for.The more advanced and intelligent ones will add Beta Casein, Egg Protein or Milk Isolates.
90% of the times its low carb Whey Protein Isolate they want.Most of them after training use Whey Protein Isolate with Waxey Maze Starch.
If you are a 200lb man and you want a awesome recovery blend.Take 30 grams of Whey Protein Isolate,60 grams of Waxey Maze Starch, 10 grams of L-Glutamine, 5 grams of BCAA's, and 2 grams of Beta Alanine.Then pop 3 grams of Vitamin C
This will give you excellent recovery, and cover give your body everything it needs to grow aswell as recover

So will real food if you know what you are doing.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 15, 2009, 06:18:44 PM
Protein powder are an extremely helpfull tool to any athlete. The high levels of BCAA/Glutamine and large spectrum of essential amino acids found in high quality protein Powders would require very large amounts of food to compensate for. The biggest mistake is to replace supplaments for food, that is why they are call supplements in the first place, but its use generally speaking is almost essential to an elite Pro.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 15, 2009, 06:23:46 PM
So will real food if you know what you are doing.

I am not sure you understand the difficulties of getting 30 grams of Whey Protein Isolate,60 grams of Waxey Maze Starch, 10 grams of L-Glutamine, 5 grams of BCAA's, and 2 grams of Beta Alanine.Then pop 3 grams of Vitamin C ....from food only....definitely possible but good luck  ::)
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 15, 2009, 06:24:57 PM
Protein powder are an extremely helpfull tool to any athlete. The high levels of BCAA/Glutamine and large spectrum of essential amino acids found in high quality protein Powders would require very large amounts of food to compensate for. The biggest mistake is to replace supplaments for food, that is why they are call supplements in the first place, but its use generally speaking is almost essential to an elite Pro.

quoted for truth, somebody give this man a klondike bar.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2009, 06:25:19 PM
yeah but by natural newcommers who believe the juiced guys they see in the ads built their muscle mass using useless powders...

well that's the point of the whole thing isnt it?

Theyre no more useless than eating steak and chicken....an essential part of any bodybuilders diet (yes, even the pro's)

Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
I would say you are much more the authority then lots of people on here and unfortunately Chick no amount of real no bullshit advice is going to convice these morons who still believe protien powder is 100% hype and a product never used by pro's....case closed....Still appreciate the comments though nice to see you on a threadI started...very cool... ;D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2009, 06:34:01 PM
No problem bro...

Lets face it...people need a reason they havent achieved anything except hitting the 10,000 post mark on Getbig.....sad, really
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 06:36:05 PM
No problem bro...

Lets face it...people need a reason they havent achieved anything except hitting the 10,000 post mark on Getbig.....sad, really

the very same people who believe nothing is possible naturally LOL
they bring up every excuse to justify the way they look

you're a good man Bob, I'm glad you post on here.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 06:36:56 PM
I would say you are much more the authority then lots of people on here and unfortunately Chick no amount of real no bullshit advice is going to convice these morons who still believe protien powder is 100% hype and a product never used by pro's....case closed....Still appreciate the comments though nice to see you on a threadI started...very cool... ;D

Hey tbunzee why dont you say hi to me anymore, i found you, i made you return, have some respect ex friend  >:(
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
Hey tbunzee why dont you say hi to me anymore, i found you, i made you return, have some respect ex friend  >:(

are we friends benz?  :)
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
are we friends benz?  :)

Sure why not?
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 06:40:19 PM
Sure why not?

 :)


how was lunch bro? what did you have?

I had some fried fish, rice with mayo  ;D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: Emmortal on January 15, 2009, 06:45:18 PM
:)


how was lunch bro? what did you have?

I had some fried fish, rice with mayo  ;D

Cut.

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Gay.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
:)


how was lunch bro? what did you have?

I had some fried fish, rice with mayo  ;D

lunch....200grams of white rice and 500gr of rib eye, but this is not typical, its something i found @ fridge from a bbq 2 nights ago, not bad though
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: tbombz on January 15, 2009, 06:49:20 PM
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hey emmortal what did you do today ?

i woke, protien shake, ephedrine and caffiene, water bong, training, protein shake and eggs, another water bogn session, chill watch youtube, water bong session, then come home and eat, then take in recycling, then cash some checks, then go to the car shop, then come home and then go to costco and get chicken and slenderize fuze drinks and macadamiun nuts, then i came home and started to masterbate to spankwire, then got interrupted and forced t stop because dinner was ready   :(

Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 06:52:27 PM
lunch....200grams of white rice and 500gr of rib eye, but this is not typical, its something i found @ fridge from a bbq 2 nights ago, not bad though

nothing better than rice and steak  :P
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 06:55:38 PM
hey emmortal what did you do today ?

i woke, protien shake, ephedrine and caffiene, water bong, training, protein shake and eggs, another water bogn session, chill watch youtube, water bong session, then come home and eat, then take in recycling, then cash some checks, then go to the car shop, then come home and then go to costco and get chicken and slenderize fuze drinks and macadamiun nuts, then i came home and started to masterbate to spankwire, then got interrupted and forced t stop because dinner was ready   :(




you only had breakfast?  :o
not getting those 600 grams of protein you need bro, you gonna go catabolic  ::)
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 07:08:58 PM
Benz I got nothing for love for ya man....I was just away on Holidays, busy with school and than 2009 brought me the fucking gift of MONO which had me not training for about almost 3 weeks.  I am cleared to return tommorow so I am super happy but gotta start out light and take it easy (whatever that means)....but seriously I appreciate it all man no worries we on point bro...
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
Benz I got nothing for love for ya man....I was just away on Holidays, busy with school and than 2009 brought me the fucking gift of MONO which had me not training for about almost 3 weeks.  I am cleared to return tommorow so I am super happy but gotta start out light and take it easy (whatever that means)....but seriously I appreciate it all man no worries we on point bro...

MONO as in Mononucleosis? Big guy are you dating whores or what
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
Yeah that's what I got....nope never I am solid with my girl and she with me....Shes not sick I dont share drinks so fucking I dont know how I got it but my doc said you can carry it for like 6 months before it hits ya with symptoms....Maybe someone coughed on a machine or dumbell then I wiped my mouth, someone couched on my food when I eat in my university classes, I really dont know but it sucks nonetheless but Im on the mend and motivated to kick serious ass asap....
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
Yeah that's what I got....nope never I am solid with my girl and she with me....Shes not sick I dont share drinks so fucking I dont know how I got it but my doc said you can carry it for like 6 months before it hits ya with symptoms....Maybe someone coughed on a machine or dumbell then I wiped my mouth, someone couched on my food when I eat in my university classes, I really dont know but it sucks nonetheless but Im on the mend and motivated to kick serious ass asap....

Not that i want to piss you off but mono is due a kiss, maybe some random hoe tried to steal a kiss from you a fucked you up man. im happy you are fine, keep the hoes away from you!
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: TBUNZEE on January 15, 2009, 07:23:55 PM
Yeah you get it from ingesting saliva that is contained with the virus....so many people get it from kissing hence the name but in reality people get it from many other ways as mentioned above and numerous others by my doc....also my gf isnt sick and if she was she would be in big trouble....but after 6 plus years and more solid then ever she nor I would never cheat....
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Yeah you get it from ingesting saliva that is contained with the virus....so many people get it from kissing hence the name but in reality people get it from many other ways as mentioned above and numerous others by my doc....also my gf isnt sick and if she was she would be in big trouble....but after 6 plus years and more solid then ever she nor I would never cheat....

class man right there, thats why you are big, all the way big tbunzee
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: elite_lifter on January 15, 2009, 07:31:45 PM
I shall respond by posting a picture of another man's wife  ;D
Nice, although I prefer women with real tits and women who don't have hair extensions.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:44:04 PM
Nice, although I prefer women with real tits and women who don't have hair extensions.

hey man, it aint my wife, it's xfactor's take it up with him  ;D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:48:26 PM
hey man, it aint my wife, it's xfactor's take it up with him  ;D


Do you have any (wife/girl)? Or you gonna be forced to marry a 7 years old like its common in your religion :(
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:49:11 PM

Do you have any (wife/girl)? Or you gonna be forced to marry a 7 years old like its common in your religion :(

I do benz, how about you bro? 

I'm not muslim and they don't force you to marry 7 year olds lol
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:50:36 PM
I do benz, how about you bro? 

I'm not muslim and they don't force you to marry 7 year olds lol

married man with kids, something that you seem to associate to being delusional, stupid and sure target to own :(
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
married man with kids, something that you seem to associate to being delusional, stupid and sure target to own :(


what?  :o

you're married and have kids?

I always thought you were like 19

good luck with that man, how many kids do you have?
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:54:47 PM

what?  :o

you're married and have kids?

I always thought you were like 19

good luck with that man, how many kids do you have?

19? lol

just 2, maybe getting ready for #3 and then #4, gotta have my own getbig army  :P
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 07:57:10 PM
19? lol

just 2, maybe getting ready for #3 and then #4, gotta have my own getbig army  :P

ya, I always thought you were some 19ish year old guy at his computer all the time  ;D
boy was I wrong, "lock and load" benz, how hot is your wife ?  :o
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: burn2live on January 15, 2009, 07:58:05 PM
Every pro I have had here touring or competing has protein shakes.

Last year Dexter, Melvin, Toney, Troy and Moe  all bought protein as soon as they landed as it sometimes gets confiscated at customs as you cant bring food into Oz. Ronnie always had his shakes. As Bob said it is too hard to get all that protein through food alone. I might add that the guys were having protein before and after the shows.



Sounds true
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
ya, I always thought you were some 19ish year old guy at his computer all the time  ;D
boy was I wrong, "lock and load" benz, how hot is your wife ?  :o

fine i guess? not fat, euro looking, good mother, doesnt bitch me at all and let me play with my computer and xbox in my spare time
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
fine i guess? not fat, euro looking, good mother, doesnt bitch me at all and let me play with my computer and xbox in my spare time

nice!

benz, you're living the dream
I have a PS3 but haven't played it in a long time  :(



how old are you actually? if it is not secret information ;D
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
nice!

benz, you're living the dream
I have a PS3 but haven't played it in a long time  :(



how old are you actually? if it is not secret information ;D

very young, didnt waste my time in a basement, instead i spent it @ bed making kids !
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: ASJChaotic on January 15, 2009, 08:12:07 PM
very young, didnt waste my time in a basement, instead i spent it @ bed making kids !


I live on the second floor, big room, bed, couch, tv, computer, gaming systems, etc
good life 


Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: benz on January 15, 2009, 08:13:47 PM

I live on the second floor, big room, bed, couch, tv, computer, gaming systems, etc
good life 




living the dream no doubt
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: tommywishbone on January 15, 2009, 08:41:52 PM
Every single competitive amateur and pro bodybuilder I've know, and I've known 100's, uses protein supplements. Every one. No exceptions.
Title: Re: Pros dont use protein powder
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
It is what it is, bro....no need to lie...protein powder is THEE most consumed supplement there is.

It's the Test Cyp of actual foods?