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Title: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 11:50:20 AM
Ya ok  lol!
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Post by: Drama Queen on January 26, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
Ya ok  lol!
I know ,horrible physique  what a gift
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 12:18:35 PM
I know ,horrible physique  what a gift

                                 >:(            :D ;D
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Post by: QuakerOats on January 26, 2009, 12:19:02 PM
                                 >:(            :D ;D
you talking about Martin, Mike?
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 12:19:26 PM
you talking about Martin, Mike?

  yup!
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Post by: 240 is Back on January 26, 2009, 12:20:50 PM
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Post by: spinnis on January 26, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
show back poses lol :p

13 was a bit low though
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Post by: QuakerOats on January 26, 2009, 12:24:10 PM
  yup!
yeah, looks like he deserved better.
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Post by: Armstrong on January 26, 2009, 01:16:08 PM
  yup!

Martin Kelstrom is freakin huge!   :o
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
yeah his 13th was a joke.
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
yeah his 13th was a joke.

I agree with you and Arvilla...  he was much closer to a top 6 placement????
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
i mean seriously............... the guy was huge and shredded!!!     13 place!!?!??!?!?!


sorry but there is just no way
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 01:53:45 PM
I agree with you and Arvilla...  he was much closer to a top 6 placement????
His body is not beautiful. But extremely big and hard. he should be rewarded for it.
Its the PACO syndrome.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 26, 2009, 01:55:23 PM
Not the most aesthetic physique but 13th place was a bit harsh. If "ugly" physiques are penalized how come Bannout placed so high with those ridiculous Synthol calves and delts? For a true freak Martin is still fairly aesthetic.

His body is not beautiful. But extremely big and hard. he should be rewarded for it.
Its the PACO syndrome.

Compared to Paco Martin is real symmetrical and beautiful.  :D
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 01:56:18 PM
His body is not beautiful. But extremely big and hard. he should be rewarded for it.
Its the PACO syndrome.
                      Im not looking for "beautiful bodies" (if i was id go to a bikini contest!)
                big and freaky = top 6 placement IMO
                       
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 01:57:01 PM
i mean seriously............... the guy was huge and shredded!!!     13 place!!?!??!?!?!
sorry but there is just no way

I agree Mike.... but the politics in the IFBB have never really allowed for fair judging?  That's why i don't compete anymore.

Perhaps ask Chick about this?
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 01:58:16 PM
That contest placement would make me sooo depressed and think about giving up (after spending thousands of dollars and countless hours/time sacrafices fot 13th place!)
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 01:59:01 PM
Not the most aesthetic physique but 13th place was a bit harsh. If "ugly" physiques are penalized how come Bannout placed so high with those ridiculous Synthol calves and delts? For a true freak Martin is still fairly aesthetic.

Compared to Paco Martin is real symmetrical and beautiful.  :D
Agreed. martin looks better than Paco.

And also I dont get why they put high value on the second place Mo. He is not huge.He is not cut. He is not beautiful. What is he?
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 26, 2009, 01:59:34 PM
I agree Mike.... but the politics in the IFBB have never really allowed for fair judging?  That's why i don't compete anymore.

Perhaps ask Chick about this?

Luckily politics work in the Euro's favor in Europe... which is why Martin is going to the Olympia anyway.  :D

Same thing happened to Paco BTW.
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
                      Im not looking for "beautiful bodies" (if i was id go to a bikini contest!)
                big and freaky = top 6 placement IMO
                       
I wanted him to be in top 6 instead of Haider and Mo.
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Post by: Chick on January 26, 2009, 02:02:09 PM
I agree Mike.... but the politics in the IFBB have never really allowed for fair judging?  That's why i don't compete anymore.

Perhaps ask Chick about this?

13th was about right....could have been a few spots up without an argument.  Tough physique to judge....needs width and back thickness.
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:02:46 PM
Luckily politics work in the Euro's favor in Europe... which is why Martin is going to the Olympia anyway.  :D

Same thing happened to Paco BTW.
In europe, we love big hard cut muscle more than beauty physic.
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:03:21 PM
Here is Martin the night before the Ironman in his hotel room (Thx Dave Palumbo for pic!)

i mean come onnnnnnnn!!!!!
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Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2009, 02:05:28 PM
I'm with you Mike, he deserved a lot higher.. who knows, BB judging might be going down a different path? with the O, going to Dexter maybe the lighter more symmetrical physiques are being  rewarded? I hope for th IFBB's sake they are consistent with the judging.
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:05:57 PM
13th was about right....could have been a few spots up without an argument.  Tough physique to judge....needs width and back thickness.
And how about MO el xxxxx? No quads cut and still 2nd place?
Bob, we are not stupid. Dont underestimate us(fans). You guys exist because of us(clients). So be honest in front of us and you will be really respected by fans.
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Post by: Chick on January 26, 2009, 02:09:26 PM
And how about MO el xxxxx? No quads cut and still 2nd place?
Bob, we are not stupid. Dont underestimate us(fans). You guys exist because of us(clients). So be honest in front of us and you will be really respected by fans.

You can listen to our recap tonight...I'll tell you exactly why,  who placed where, and why
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Post by: Balloon on January 26, 2009, 02:10:08 PM
He is the new RUHL in terms of a crowd pleaser.

Freak, no doubt very impressive in person.
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
You can listen to our recap tonight...I'll tell you exactly why,  who placed where, and why
ok
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:12:26 PM
                     Hmmmmmmm 
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Post by: Nordic Beast on January 26, 2009, 02:13:01 PM
his delts look ridiculous filled with all that synthol :-\

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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:14:17 PM
Still don't see it....
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
his delts look ridiculous filled with all that synthol :-\



    Hater!                                       ;D
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 26, 2009, 02:17:01 PM
                      Im not looking for "beautiful bodies" (if i was id go to a bikini contest!)
                big and freaky = top 6 placement IMO
                       

No Mike, that was a bodybuilding contest and, based on the rules it follows, the contestants are supposed to have all around musculature, symmetry between the muscles, conditioning and an overall flow to their physiques.  He was big and freaky, but that is not enough for him to place well in a contest.

By that same "big and freaky" logic, Brad Hollibaugh should be Mr. Olympia.
(http://www.thinkmuscle.com/images/brad-hollibaugh/brad-hollibaugh.jpg)


"1"
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:19:47 PM
his delts look ridiculous filled with all that synthol :-\


I dont think so. Syntholed delts dont look this hard.
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:20:36 PM
Brad Hollinbaugh looks like a buffoon!!!!   (filled with more oil than Exxon)


to even put martin in the same catergory is insulting
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:20:58 PM
No Mike, that was a bodybuilding contest and, based on the rules it follows, the contestants are supposed to have all around musculature, symmetry between the muscles, conditioning and an overall flow to their physiques.  He was big and freaky, but that is not enough for him to place well in a contest.

By that same "big and freaky" logic, Brad Hollibaugh should be Mr. Olympia.
(http://www.thinkmuscle.com/images/brad-hollibaugh/brad-hollibaugh.jpg)


"1"
Big and freaky is not enough. HE LOOKS SOFT!
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Post by: Faust on January 26, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
In europe, we love big hard cut muscle more than beauty physic.
Are you saying that bodybuilding is the muscle?
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
 :o
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:24:28 PM
Are you saying that bodybuilding is the muscle?
;D

Joke aside, if not, what is?

If Ironman is a beauty contest, i will quit watching it from next year. We all want to see big freaky hard mutant like muscle.
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
;D

Joke aside, if not, what is?

If Ironman is a beauty contest, i will quit watching it from next year. We all want to see big freaky hard mutant like muscle.

                           My sentiments exactly!!!
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 02:27:12 PM
13th was about right....could have been a few spots up without an argument.  Tough physique to judge....needs width and back thickness.

I agree it is a tough physique to judge .... if you are going on aesthetics.   But on freak-factor he almost wins the show?  So .... some middle ground may be around 6-7th?

But in this weak line-up I think the IFBB could have done themselves a marketing favor by including him with the top boys because he would have been a crowd favorite due to his freakiness?

Instead, the judges buried him?
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 02:29:22 PM
No Mike, that was a bodybuilding contest and, based on the rules it follows, the contestants are supposed to have all around musculature, symmetry between the muscles, conditioning and an overall flow to their physiques.  He was big and freaky, but that is not enough for him to place well in a contest.
By that same "big and freaky" logic, Brad Hollibaugh should be Mr. Olympia.
(http://www.thinkmuscle.com/images/brad-hollibaugh/brad-hollibaugh.jpg)


"1"

Please don't EVER include Brad Hollibaugfh in the same sentence as any IFBB Pro ....he is a synthol-idiot!!!!!
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Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
I agree it is a tough physique to judge .... if you are going on aesthetics.   But on freak-factor he almost wins the show?  So .... some middle ground may be around 6-7th?

But in this weak line-up I think the IFBB could have done themselves a marketing favor by including him with the top boys because he would have been a crowd favorite due to his freakiness?

  Bingo!................have Larissa Reis hand out the trophies and EVERYONE goes home happy!!!

                                                           ;D
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Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
I agree it is a tough physique to judge .... if you are going on aesthetics.   But on freak-factor he almost wins the show?  So .... some middle ground may be around 6-7th?

But in this weak line-up I think the IFBB could have done themselves a marketing favor by including him with the top boys because he would have been a crowd favorite due to his freakiness?
very well said. IFBB are stupid that they forget that we fans are their client. Clients move the market. Not venders.
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 02:36:38 PM
No Mike, that was a bodybuilding contest and, based on the rules it follows, the contestants are supposed to have all around musculature, symmetry between the muscles, conditioning and an overall flow to their physiques.  He was big and freaky, but that is not enough for him to place well in a contest.

By that same "big and freaky" logic, Brad Hollibaugh should be Mr. Olympia.
(http://www.thinkmuscle.com/images/brad-hollibaugh/brad-hollibaugh.jpg)


"1"

I must agree ...Symmetry, proportion and balance are fundamental part of Bodybuilding
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 26, 2009, 02:40:30 PM
No Mike, that was a bodybuilding contest and, based on the rules it follows, the contestants are supposed to have all around musculature, symmetry between the muscles, conditioning and an overall flow to their physiques.  He was big and freaky, but that is not enough for him to place well in a contest.

By that same "big and freaky" logic, Brad Hollibaugh should be Mr. Olympia.

That's ridiculous. Martin doesn't have Synthol parts that jump at you. If he used it... well, it's not at a level that immediately jumps at you.

The back is a weak point, true. But Martin is pretty damn evenly developed i.e symmetrical. He is more symmetrical than Silvio though most would probably say Silvio is more aesthetic. Sure, not the most beautiful physique like I said but a comparison to Brad is ridiculous. The Lebanese guy would make a better comparison if you insist on comparing someone from this line-up to Brad. He had those eye-sores.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q0485_FWEVGDPURQ.jpg)
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Post by: ibfasport on January 26, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
poor European bodybuilders every time robbed in the USA
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
poor European bodybuilders every time robbed in the USA

Silvio- Spain
Moe- New Zealand
Rockel- Germany
Hide- Japan
Haidar- Lebanon
 ::) WINNER Always FIND WAYS TO WIN LOSERS ALWYAYS FIND EXECUSES....period.
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 05:26:35 PM
  Bingo!.....  have Larissa Reis hand out the trophies and EVERYONE goes home happy!!                                           

Love that idea, Mike!   Did you see these pics of her?

I want her to get me in the Choke-the-chicken hold!!!!
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Post by: Drama Queen on January 26, 2009, 05:33:00 PM
Real bodybuilding is about lines ,small waist (no gut), wide shoulders .... Martin is completely the opposite
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 05:38:20 PM
Real bodybuilding is about lines ,small waist (no gut), wide shoulders .... Martin is completely the opposite

That picture comparasion responds and resume all questions....
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Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 26, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
That's ridiculous. Martin doesn't have Synthol parts that jump at you. If he used it... well, it's not at a level that immediately jumps at you.

The back is a weak point, true. But Martin is pretty damn evenly developed i.e symmetrical. He is more symmetrical than Silvio though most would probably say Silvio is more aesthetic. Sure, not the most beautiful physique like I said but a comparison to Brad is ridiculous. The Lebanese guy would make a better comparison if you insist on comparing someone from this line-up to Brad. He had those eye-sores.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q0485_FWEVGDPURQ.jpg)

This guy is EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern bodybuilding. He has a good (not great) physique and has taken the drastic measures to get crazy ripped ... meaning his Glutes are insanely striated and very impressive.

BUT then... he ruins it all by pumping synthol (esciclene, whatever ...who cares?) into his weak body parts (calves for one... see the golf ball lumps?) and ends up looking like a circus FREAK!

And THIS is the VERY reason pro bodybuilding is dying!!!!!!

Are you guys really surprised?   Chick????

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Post by: Nordic Beast on January 26, 2009, 05:41:56 PM
This guy is EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern bodybuilding. He has a good (not great) physique and has taken the drastic measures to get crazy ripped ... meaning his Glutes are insanely striated and very impressive.

BUT then... he ruins it all by pumping synthol (esciclene, whatever ...who cares?) into his weak body parts (calves for one... see the golf ball lumps?) and ends up looking like a circus FREAK!

And THIS is the VERY reason pro bodybuilding is dying!!!!!!

Are you guys really surprised?   Chick????


hahaha like I said before this guy is a mess------ever since the Nasser debacle they aren't going to reward someone with such obvious synthol use

those calves look like they hurt :-\

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q0485_FWEVGDPURQ.jpg)
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Post by: Drama Queen on January 26, 2009, 05:43:16 PM
Kyomu ,you have to stop this  ;D


Mo. He is not huge.He is not cut. He is not beautiful. What is he

We all want to see big freaky hard mutant like muscle.



His body is not beautiful. But extremely big and hard. he should be rewarded for it.
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Post by: Balloon on January 26, 2009, 05:43:58 PM
This guy is EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern bodybuilding. He has a good (not great) physique and has taken the drastic measures to get crazy ripped ... meaning his Glutes are insanely striated and very impressive.

BUT then... he ruins it all by pumping synthol (esciclene, whatever ...who cares?) into his weak body parts (calves for one... see the golf ball lumps?) and ends up looking like a circus FREAK!

And THIS is the VERY reason pro bodybuilding is dying!!!!!!

Are you guys really surprised?   Chick????


This Bannout guy doesn't have the structure for high level bodybuilding.
he looked like a collection of bodyparts with no flow.

Those calves were disgusting.
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Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
This guy is EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern bodybuilding. He has a good (not great) physique and has taken the drastic measures to get crazy ripped ... meaning his Glutes are insanely striated and very impressive.

BUT then... he ruins it all by pumping synthol (esciclene, whatever ...who cares?) into his weak body parts (calves for one... see the golf ball lumps?) and ends up looking like a circus FREAK!

And THIS is the VERY reason pro bodybuilding is dying!!!!!!

Are you guys really surprised?   Chick????



Grant...... Who would be your top 5?
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Post by: honest on January 26, 2009, 06:14:42 PM
I think the show was judged pretty good overall, Martins a big hard guy and no doubt should have been higher, but definately not top 5, an argument for 7th or 8th could be placed on his conditioning and his overall more completness than someone like bannout who placed ahead of him. but thats only from the photos, seeing it first hand by being there is the only way you could call a conspiracy to anything.
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Post by: hipolito mejia on January 26, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
Real bodybuilding is about lines ,small waist (no gut), wide shoulders .... Martin is completely the opposite


End of thread right there.
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Post by: Noel Fuller on January 26, 2009, 06:38:52 PM
I wonder why you used 4 year old back pics to justify your argument, please post up his back in the comparisons at this show and say he should have been top 6
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Post by: kiwiol on January 26, 2009, 06:44:18 PM
hahaha like I said before this guy is a mess------ever since the Nasser debacle they aren't going to reward someone with such obvious synthol use

those calves look like they hurt :-\

As bad as he looks there due to his calves, from the knees up he's still loads better than Don long who looked like dried up dog shit run twice over
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Wiggs on January 26, 2009, 06:44:48 PM
Bob Paris = awesome

Great looking guy also
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: mrusa85 on January 26, 2009, 06:47:46 PM
Martin was big, no doubt. And cut. Might have been as high as 10th, though,  but not much higher. He really needs a better back. He turns around and his lats are non-existant when he's posing and flexing. It's really obvious when you see him live next to the other competitors. These guys all hit their poses at different times during the mandatories, so the photos are rarely accurate at seeing every guy at their best.  
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Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
This guy is EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern bodybuilding. He has a good (not great) physique and has taken the drastic measures to get crazy ripped ... meaning his Glutes are insanely striated and very impressive.

BUT then... he ruins it all by pumping synthol (esciclene, whatever ...who cares?) into his weak body parts (calves for one... see the golf ball lumps?) and ends up looking like a circus FREAK!

And THIS is the VERY reason pro bodybuilding is dying!!!!!!

Are you guys really surprised?   Chick????


Tip#1:
All calves look the same on stage regardless of size. No one looks at calves.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
Any show will have a relative amount of controversy. This show was judge well, obviously some competitor could be couple spots higher or lower. But what is sad is that the 90% of criticism is from people that were not there and think that just because they work out they are experts.
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Post by: Noel Fuller on January 26, 2009, 07:06:49 PM
Arvilla nice pics from the wrong show
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: HeyNow on January 26, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
Holy shredded glutes on a white dude, I agree with Mike.  He should have placed top 10.  BB is not a fair hobby.  A cannot beleive the vascularity on that guy it's nuts!  Cool physique.
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Post by: 20inch calves on January 26, 2009, 08:41:28 PM
13th was about right....could have been a few spots up without an argument.  Tough physique to judge....needs width and back thickness.





 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) COME ON BOB!!!! are you serious. yeah the winner of the show has so much width and back thickness. it matches up so well with his massively developed delts
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
Love that idea, Mike!   Did you see these pics of her?

I want her to get me in the Choke-the-chicken hold!!!!
lol!..............hadn't seen em yet


     you two make a great couple i think!
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
I wonder why you used 4 year old back pics to justify your argument, please post up his back in the comparisons at this show and say he should have been top 6


     
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Post by: Disgusted on January 26, 2009, 08:54:31 PM
.needs width and back thickness.

What's Phil Heath have to do with this?  ;)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 08:54:39 PM




 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) COME ON BOB!!!! are you serious. yeah the winner of the show has so much width and back thickness. it matches up so well with his massively developed delts

All Competitor have weakness, but I really really hope that you are not insinuating that Martin has less weakness that Silvio........Please  ::)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
What's Phil Heath have to do with this?  ;)

So you think that Martin has comperable width and thickness to Phil...
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 08:58:44 PM
From the front.....
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 09:00:59 PM
side
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Disgusted on January 26, 2009, 09:02:32 PM
So you think that Martin has comperable width and thickness to Phil...

I was joking, Phil is freaky and have one of the best closed hands MM that I have ever seen next to Levrone, but his back width is almost non existent and thickness is not much better. Not a put down at all, just his genetics.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 09:02:34 PM
Is it Christmas!??!?!?!?
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 26, 2009, 09:04:58 PM
From the front.....

Michael...You seem very knowledgeable, but I was at the show and even though I believe that Martin may have been place a couple spots higher, I do not believe he should have been in the top 10. He carries huge amounts of mass and he is a tall competitor( what you tend to be partial towards), but this front shoot is just poor....and demonstrate clearly his weakness futher justifying his placing.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 09:05:05 PM
but ur right......that guy with the lumpy baseball calves def beat this
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 26, 2009, 09:07:57 PM
Michael...You seem very knowledgeable, but I was at the show and even though I believe that Martin may have been place a couple spots higher, I do not believe he should have been in the top 10. He carries huge amounts of mass and he is a tall competitor( what you tend to be partial towards), but this front shoot is just poor....and demonstrate clearly his weakness futher justifying his placing.

 His back is def weak (don't get me wrong) but in this weak line up i feel he should have been placed higher
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: tommywishbone on January 26, 2009, 09:14:48 PM
Dude has a cool physique ala Jim Quinn or Curtis Leifler. Delts packed with Pump & Pose (External use only!) but it's 2009 and nobody cares anymore.
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: GreatFinn on January 26, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
I'm with you Mike, he deserved a lot higher.. who knows, BB judging might be going down a different path? with the O, going to Dexter maybe the lighter more symmetrical physiques are being  rewarded? I hope for th IFBB's sake they are consistent with the judging.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=260532.0;attach=301592;image) Well, maybe judges notice those "Carrot Head- look a like"- shoulders and drop few points  because of obvious using of synthol.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: hazbin on January 26, 2009, 11:35:52 PM
they say they couldn't place him higher because he was the only mass monster ??? ???

how could they place Shawn Ray between Dorian and Nasser in the 90's.

Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: genrommel74 on January 27, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
Looks pretty good, but definate synthol shoulders.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2009, 12:22:12 AM
No synthol in delts.

avbg approved.
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: kyomu on January 27, 2009, 03:02:03 AM
Real bodybuilding is about lines ,small waist (no gut), wide shoulders .... Martin is completely the opposite
Nope.

An impressive competitor must win. Even if you have good line,you are not impressive in front of a guy who outmass 10 times.
Viceversa,if you carry super great line like Bob,Shawn or Lee labrada, you can battle out with bigger guys.
But, if they outmass you helplessly, you will lose.

Needless to say about the condition.

Not who is the most beautiful, but who is the most impressive.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 05:47:42 AM
Like i said this pic taken the night before the Ironman .........(pretty much says it all/in a weak line-up this is not a 13th place physique!)


the guy brought his "A-game" love his physique or hate it/he was not 13th place
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Noel Fuller on January 27, 2009, 07:53:39 AM
Too bad he didnt bring that picture with him and flash it at the judges during comparisons
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 08:57:27 AM
Too bad he didnt bring that picture with him and flash it at the judges during comparisons

lol!
Noel your really not "Digging" Martin too much im gunna go out on a limb and say...................

 :D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: spinnis on January 27, 2009, 09:00:14 AM
He has the ass size of Rikishi  ;D

(http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/mcmahon/48/multimedia/fatu3.jpg)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Noel Fuller on January 27, 2009, 09:14:20 AM
Hes good but he didnt look like that onstage his back was really soft, I dont get all the ass kissing,
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 09:17:21 AM
Hes good but he didnt look like that onstage his back was really soft, I dont get all the ass kissing,

 lol@ ass kissing................i n a sea full of midgets i just liked the "taller/freakier" physique he brought to the ironman stage
               that's all (plus i did a "$300.00 dollar website" for him and promised him a massive PR blitz!)

                  ;D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: spinnis on January 27, 2009, 09:24:07 AM
lol@ ass kissing................i n a sea full of midgets i just liked the "taller/freakier" physique he brought to the ironman stage
               that's all (plus i did a "$300.00 dollar website" for him and promised him a massive PR blitz!)

                  ;D

Why do americans always add the .00 ?

Why not just write $300 dollars?
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Noel Fuller on January 27, 2009, 10:46:51 AM
Arvilla you a genius, I should have known, ok he was robbed should have been 3rd place.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 10:57:40 AM
cud've bn 2 -4 spots higher but not much more.  Great physique to guest pose but not so good for competition.. too many flaws esp from the back. 
Mike, the biggest and tallest guy (like you) on the stage is almost always gonna look the best in the most muscular , nice try though lol.  It's the other poses that determine the placements
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: GetItOnNY on January 27, 2009, 11:02:45 AM
Just for fun and arguements sake, out of these 2 athletes, who do you think looks better?
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: SkinnyFatty on January 27, 2009, 11:03:11 AM
Ironman "Pro" 2009 the worst lineup in bodybuilding history. I'd be ashamed to win that contest.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Just for fun and arguements sake, out of these 2 athletes, who do you think looks better?
very fair comparison I'd say.. the absolute worst pic of a guy who has 2 sandows and is currently 2nd in the world against the absolute best pic of a guywho did make top 10 at the ironman.. I know hatin on J is in now and no disrespect to Martin but lets be real here
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Tamer Razor on January 27, 2009, 11:38:59 AM
Ironman "Pro" 2009 the worst lineup in bodybuilding history. I'd be ashamed to win that contest.

Wow....What show did you win your Pro card?........................ .....................
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: wordy on January 27, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Other than worthy competitors getting screwed and losing moeny they should rightly have won, IFBB judging is worthless. It lost all credability when Marckus Ruhl was marked down in a Mr Olyimpia (2001 I think) and was told he needed more size. Then theres the constant screwing over of Ronnie Rockell who should've won the 2009 ironman. >:(
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: ibfasport on January 27, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
Silvio- Spain
Moe- New Zealand
Rockel- Germany
Hide- Japan
Haidar- Lebanon
 ::) WINNER Always FIND WAYS TO WIN LOSERS ALWYAYS FIND EXECUSES....period.


Silvio is not spainard is African!
Rockel deserve to win this show and go home with third place,


 

Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 12:41:55 PM
Arvilla you a genius, I should have known, ok he was robbed should have been 3rd place.

                                              ;D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
cud've bn 2 -4 spots higher but not much more.  Great physique to guest pose but not so good for competition.. too many flaws esp from the back. 
Mike, the biggest and tallest guy (like you) on the stage is almost always gonna look the best in the most muscular , nice try though lol.  It's the other poses that determine the placements

     LOL!...............i know Rudy i know!  (you can't blame a guy for trying tho!) us tall "big" guys gotta stick together!
      (what's up with you??........when/where is ur next show???)
 
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: spinnis on January 27, 2009, 12:49:10 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/arvilla/arvilla1.jpg)

Smoothest man Ive ever seen  ;D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:50:01 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/arvilla/arvilla1.jpg)

Smoothest man Ive ever seen  ;D

you are not too ripped either stud
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 12:54:23 PM
                            That's not Martin Kjellstrom!!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:57:20 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/arvilla/arvilla1.jpg)

Smoothest man Ive ever seen  ;D

ad cherry is in pretty good shape here,much better than on stage
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 12:58:42 PM
ad cherry is in pretty good shape here,much better than on stage

                    Yea i agree!..............best AD ever!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:59:56 PM
                    Yea i agree!..............best AD ever!!!!!!!!!!!


don't understand why he eats like a pig 2 days out
looks great here 3 week out
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 02:55:03 PM

don't understand why he eats like a pig 2 days out
looks great here 3 week out

  totally agree!!! (hell if I looked like that id be happy!!)
 
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: dr.chimps on January 27, 2009, 02:57:02 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/arvilla/arvilla1.jpg)

Smoothest man Ive ever seen  ;D
Looks a lot like the Stretch Armstrong I had when I was a kid.  ;D

/sorry mike
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: spinnis on January 27, 2009, 02:57:41 PM
Veins popping out like spaghetti in a Italian restaurant there Mike I'm impressed!
Title: Re: 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Kwon on January 27, 2009, 04:28:24 PM
poor European bodybuilders every time robbed in the USA

Moe- New Zealand
Rockel- Germany
Hide- Japan
Haidar- Lebanon
 ::) WINNER Always FIND WAYS TO WIN LOSERS ALWYAYS FIND EXECUSES....period.

Neither New Zealand, Japan nor Lebanon is a european country.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 04:40:05 PM
From the front.....

he has a 1:1 shoulder to waist and he has the back width of a figure competitor. Until he addresses these issues he'll always be 13th or so.

oh yea, looks like oil in the biceps as well, i might be wrong on that though.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
he has a 1:1 shoulder to waist and he has the back width of a figure competitor. Until he addresses these issues he'll always be 13th or so.

oh yea, looks like oil in the biceps as well, i might be wrong on that though.
you have to admit though the man has some FREAKY arms and legs.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
     LOL!...............i know Rudy i know!  (you can't blame a guy for trying tho!) us tall "big" guys gotta stick together!
      (what's up with you??........when/where is ur next show???)
 
hahahah.. i gave you credit man ;D. I'm definately a fan of the freaks but like Haney would say "Mass with Class" Saw Martin Guestpose in November.  God Damn, fn freak, the crown went crazy.  I'm shooting for USA in July.  What about you?
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:30:44 PM
you have to admit though the man has some FREAKY arms and legs.

yea awesome quads, just an ugly physique though!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: njflex on January 27, 2009, 07:33:18 PM
hahahah.. i gave you credit man ;D. I'm definately a fan of the freaks but like Haney would say "Mass with Class" Saw Martin Guestpose in November.  God Damn, fn freak, the crown went crazy.  I'm shooting for USA in July.  What about you?
good luck big man,bring it home,the size and shape is there.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 07:35:10 PM
yea awesome quads, just an ugly physique though!
he's no 93 Flex Wheeler but i wouldn't say his physique is ugly, he is blocky but so are a lot of these guys nowadays.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 07:37:30 PM
good luck big man,bring it home,the size and shape is there.
Thnx flex.. some setbacks last yr but no excuses this yr and very motivated
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:39:18 PM
he's no 93 Flex Wheeler but i wouldn't say his physique is ugly, he is blocky but so are a lot of these guys nowadays.

yea dude, blocky is right, but his physique doesnt "flow" either.

and so true about alot of these guys being blocky nowadays. I wonder why that is, i guess people with all the great genetics are doing other things. im 140lbs though, what do i know ;D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
hahahah.. i gave you credit man ;D. I'm definately a fan of the freaks but like Haney would say "Mass with Class" Saw Martin Guestpose in November.  God Damn, fn freak, the crown went crazy.  I'm shooting for USA in July.  What about you?

Long overdue pro-card be yours i hope!!!..............(ill be rooting for ya!)
me...."Sunshine Classic" in March (8 weeks out right now)
50 grams of carbs a day lol...it's getting rough!

:)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
Veins popping out like spaghetti in a Italian restaurant there Mike I'm impressed!

lol
 thanks Bro!!!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 08:11:34 PM
Long overdue pro-card be yours i hope!!!..............(ill be rooting for ya!)
me...."Sunshine Classic" in March (8 weeks out right now)
50 grams of carbs a day lol...it's getting rough!

:)

how u lookin mike? got any pics?
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: Camel Jockey on January 27, 2009, 08:16:22 PM
Arvilla probably had too many jack and cokes and decided to scan the Iron 2009 list of obscure and last place finishing bodybuilders.  ::)

Still, props for looking him up. Looks like he could have placed a lot higher. I'm glad somewhere despite not even breaking in, being 5th tier, and not cared about, these bodybuilders will feel a warm tingling feeling down the crack of their ass because they know Arvilla is fighting for them.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 27, 2009, 08:51:09 PM
how u lookin mike? got any pics?
still shitty  lol

(ill take some pics sunday)

Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 10:53:43 PM
Long overdue pro-card be yours i hope!!!..............(ill be rooting for ya!)
me...."Sunshine Classic" in March (8 weeks out right now)
50 grams of carbs a day lol...it's getting rough!

:)
Thanks big man.. Good luck, I'll be rooting for you also.  I heard you're very shy but please post some pics lol..
50 grams.. are you serious? that's low for 8 wks out.  That's tough, happy i'm not you right now :)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: hazbin on January 27, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
low carbs is double tough. tough to get through the workouts; and tough to see your muscles deflate from glycogen loss before the fat burning gets really going. you look worse for a while before you look better. the mind plays tricks and tries to get you to abort mission.

stick with it Bro, you know it's worth it.
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: TechnoViking on January 28, 2009, 02:01:29 AM
This Martin fella will look like a taller version of Heiko in no less then 3 years...


YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 28, 2009, 07:53:56 AM
50grams of carbs! u pussy!!

go zero then start complaining haha jk.......

keep up the hard work bro, ur doing something most people only dream of doing.............accomp lishing a goal!!!!!

Good work
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: local hero on January 28, 2009, 08:12:06 AM
i think he got ripped off too...... he isnt as ugly as most make out, and he's bringing the kind of condition that u dont see much these days, im still of the opinion that ifbb pros should still dwarf everyone in the audience..
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 28, 2009, 02:06:10 PM
Thanks big man.. Good luck, I'll be rooting for you also.  I heard you're very shy but please post some pics lol..
50 grams.. are you serious? that's low for 8 wks out.  That's tough, happy i'm not you right now :)

 Thanks Rudy!!!....(let us know/and see your contest prep/pictures if you don't mind?)
Hazbin and Flexington thanks as well!!!!

lol im sure if "this weeks" set of pictures doesnt please Larry (LLES) he willl put me on zero carbs for next week!

 :)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: kiwiol on January 28, 2009, 08:11:02 PM
Thanks Rudy!!!....(let us know/and see your contest prep/pictures if you don't mind?)
Hazbin and Flexington thanks as well!!!!

lol im sure if "this weeks" set of pictures doesnt please Larry (LLES) he willl put me on zero carbs for next week!

 :)

Good luck for the show, big guy
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: rudylrichards on January 29, 2009, 06:56:03 AM
Thanks Rudy!!!....(let us know/and see your contest prep/pictures if you don't mind?)


Will do. for your sake I hope Larry's happy  :)
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 29, 2009, 11:01:28 AM
Good luck for the show, big guy

  Thx bro!!..............(id like to come close to or "duplicate" this condition!)

Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: hazbin on January 29, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
  Thx bro!!..............(id like to come close to or "duplicate" this condition!)



cannonball delts there bro!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 29, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
cannonball delts there bro!
  Thx!!!  ...............i was "sucked down to nothing" but in pretty good shape
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: spinnis on January 29, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
  Thx bro!!..............(id like to come close to or "duplicate" this condition!)



So fucking ripped my eyes are hurting!!  ;D
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: michael arvilla on January 29, 2009, 12:16:43 PM
So fucking ripped my eyes are hurting!!  ;D
     lol!
Title: Re: Ironman 2009 - Martin Kjellstrom - 13th Place!!?!?!?!
Post by: TechnoViking on January 29, 2009, 08:26:21 PM
  Thx bro!!..............(id like to come close to or "duplicate" this condition!)




Delts look real good Mike...