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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: QuakerOats on March 29, 2009, 07:39:22 AM
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dude trains pretty hard, weighs over 300 pounds in this clip as well, huge bastard.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1926/204/
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All the way cool dude, my favorite pro personality wise
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All the way cool dude, my favorite pro personality wise
fuccking massive beyond belief in that clip too.
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All the way cool dude, my favorite pro personality wise
True, the guy is well spoken, i think he is a great representative for the sport too.
For how long did he bulked?
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Evan's bulked since he won the 2007 Nationals. Hopefully he comes out with a bang at the New York Pro.
Seems like a cool ass bro as well
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All the way cool dude, my favorite pro personality wise
He hasn't competed in anything yet...let see how he deals with the big boys before we see how "cool" he is. Waiting 2 yrs to compete against the pros already shows a lack of self confidence that Heath, and company lack. Hopefully he'll he come down and produce a physique that again is worthy of a MD cover.
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He hasn't competed in anything yet...let see how he deals with the big boys before we see how "cool" he is. Waiting 2 yrs to compete against the pros already shows a lack of self confidence that Heath, and company lack. Hopefully he'll he come down and produce a physique that again is worthy of a MD cover.
::) gauranteed if he was a black bodybuilder you'd have kinder words for him.
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He hasn't competed in anything yet...let see how he deals with the big boys before we see how "cool" he is. Waiting 2 yrs to compete against the pros already shows a lack of self confidence that Heath, and company lack. Hopefully he'll he come down and produce a physique that again is worthy of a MD cover.
I think it was a good move for him...needs to add some mass in order to compete with the older pros.
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I think it was a good move for him...needs to add some mass in order to compete with the older pros.
Melvin Anthony had said, "If you have to take a yr off to add size to compete with the pros, then you don't deserve to compete with the pros" All the most successful pros have jumped right in. Plus plus you get name recognition. And how much size do you need to gain in 2 yrs? Ronnie Coleman is not competing. And the focus on size, sometimes effs dudes up. Just look at Trey.
If he did it to take time off, good!! I was impressed with Evan when he appeared in MD, he looked like a better version of Bob Chick, awesome arms and legs.
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He hasn't competed in anything yet...let see how he deals with the big boys before we see how "cool" he is. Waiting 2 yrs to compete against the pros already shows a lack of self confidence that Heath, and company lack. Hopefully he'll he come down and produce a physique that again is worthy of a MD cover.
I was talking about his personality, how does it matter if he hasn't competed yet ?
dude has an incredible physique, he will be a great pro. So what if he waited to have enough mass to compete ?
he should have just blown his money away to do some shows where he knew he would not place ?
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In about a month we will see him onstage, only then we are able to judge him...
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Melvin Anthony had said, "If you have to take a yr off to add size to compete with the pros, then you don't deserve to compete with the pros" All the most successful pros have jumped right in. Plus plus you get name recognition. And how much size do you need to gain in 2 yrs? Ronnie Coleman is not competing. And the focus on size, sometimes effs dudes up. Just look at Trey.
If he did it to take time off, good!! I was impressed with Evan when he appeared in MD, he looked like a better version of Bob Chick, awesome arms and legs.
yes the same Melvin Anthony who keeps getting gifts years after years because of his name but never comes in super shredded, yet brags about eating hot-dogs all the way to the shows
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Huge beyond belief.
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yes the same Melvin Anthony who keeps getting gifts years after years because of his name but never comes in super shredded, yet brags about eating hot-dogs all the way to the shows
Melvin is the most overrated bodybuilder in the business but Parker rides his jock because he's black. ::)
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yes the same Melvin Anthony who keeps getting gifts years after years because of his name but never comes in super shredded, yet brags about eating hot-dogs all the way to the shows
and comes looking the same each year.
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Thats an awesome Golds to train at. I remember how it had that 'hardcore' gym feel to it.
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lol he won the nationals in only his 4th ever show. He's competed in something lol some guys never even make top 10 and compete in the nationals year after year.
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Sorry for you guys but..
This is a pussy leg workout.
Long rest.
No real failure.
All below 12reps.
We train 10 times harder than these juice heads.
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looks like just another fat fuck to me
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Sorry for you guys but..
This is a pussy leg workout.
Long rest.
No real failure.
All below 12reps.
We train 10 times harder than these juice heads.
Tell us how you really feel. ;D How did your show go man? Your last pics looked great.
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Sorry for you guys but..
This is a pussy leg workout.
Long rest.
No real failure.
All below 12reps.
We train 10 times harder than these juice heads.
hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you're joking right? 500 for 12 rock bottom is "pussy leg workout"? ::)
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looks like just another fat fuck to me
hes single digit...its only water bloat
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hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you're joking right? 500 for 12 rock bottom is "pussy leg workout"? ::)
Dave. Training heavy and low reps isnt easy but train to the failure and high reps like 20-30reps is a hell.
Try it.
Plus they dont do peak contraction at the top. We do.
And needless to say, Paco carries one of the best legs in the world.
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hes single digit...its only water bloat
single digit what??? lol typical morbidly obese guy with above avg strength....health wise no difference between him and a 300 lb guy who eats mickey d's 3 x a day
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Dave. Training heavy and low reps isnt easy but train to the failure and high reps like 20-30reps is a hell.
Try it.
Plus they dont do peak contraction at the top. We do.
And needless to say, Paco carries one of the best legs in the world.
dude no offense but the videos i've seen of you and musclecenter are doing 20-25 reps with 245 pounds, gimme a fuccking break seriously, you're starting to get pretty full of yourself. ::)
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Tell us how you really feel. ;D How did your show go man? Your last pics looked great.
Thanx.
I am just saying the honest opinion.
Look at their face. You see any of them with red face of feeling like vomit or lay down on the floor?
They are chatting with normal face.......
We cant.
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dude no offense but the videos i've seen of you and musclecenter are doing 20-25 reps with 245 pounds, gimme a fuccking break seriously, you're starting to get pretty full of yourself. ::)
Nono.
You havent seen my leg workout since i didnt film any of it. And i have never met great musclecenter. ;D
I can do 6 full reps of 4plates each side. They are heavy but not hard.
I feel like dying when i do 2plates each side 30 reps with peak contraction.
Do you understand?
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Nono.
You havent seen my leg workout since i didnt film any of it. And i have never met great musclecenter. ;D
I can do 6 full reps of 4plates each side. They are heavy but not hard.
I feel like dying when i do 2plates each side 30 reps with peak contraction.
Do you understand?
225 for 30 is a warm up for anyone who is serious, no offense.
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he makes those 495 squats so effortless.
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Even if you squat with 400kg with 6 reps, I dont think you train hard.
Real hard squat is 100reps of 5 sets. I still havent done it in my life.
Paco did.
Its a regend.
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Sorry for you guys but..
This is a pussy leg workout.
Long rest.
No real failure.
All below 12reps.
We train 10 times harder than these juice heads.
i agree there is a lot of rest, but you have to admit the lbs and the reps together are pretty awesome
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225 for 30 is a warm up for anyone who is serious, no offense.
You still count the weight.
The weight is not the matter.
Just choose the proper weight for you to get failure or limit at 17reps or something and do 30 reps with it.
Thats what i am talking about.
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That gym is for pussies, visit my Bailley's anyday and see real hardcore motherfuckers.
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i agree there is a lot of rest, but you have to admit the lbs and the reps together are pretty awesome
I am not talking about their capability.
I am talking about hardness.
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I am not talking about their capability.
I am talking about hardness.
hardness as in toughness?
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hardness as in toughness?
Yes.
Maybe Milos workout use girlie weight, but looks way more harder than this.
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dude trains pretty hard, weighs over 300 pounds in this clip as well, huge bastard.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1926/204/
Fat and bloated. :-X
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Yes.
Maybe Milos workout use girlie weight, but looks way more harder than this.
i think you have to look at it both ways... doing 135 for 100 would be very,very hard but doing 495 for 12 would be just as hard. I think you can be tough either way
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i think you have to look at it both ways... doing 135 for 100 would be very,very hard but doing 495 for 12 would be just as hard. I think you can be tough either way
Yes agreed.
But these guys didnt reach a real failure with 12reps.
If you reach real failure,you cant talk for a couple of minutes.
Thats why I say they dont train hard.
Plus they dont do peak contraction.
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225 for 30 is a warm up for anyone who is serious, no offense.
you're kidding right? most guys in the gym can't do 225 for 4 reps ass to the grass, real form ::)
225 for 30 LOL!!
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Yes agreed.
But these guys didnt reach a real failure with 12reps.
If you reach real failure,you cant talk for a couple of minutes.
Thats why I say they dont train hard.
Plus they dont do peak contraction.
but their big as fuck...lol
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Sorry for you guys but..
This is a pussy leg workout.
Long rest.
No real failure.
All below 12reps.
We train 10 times harder than these juice heads.
Training to failure is training to fail. Paco's drug free then?
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Fat and bloated. :-X
then how come he has visible abs?
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Yes agreed.
But these guys didnt reach a real failure with 12reps.
If you reach real failure,you cant talk for a couple of minutes.
Thats why I say they dont train hard.
Plus they dont do peak contraction.
all pros train like pussies!
they let the drugs do the growing for them, they train like little bitches
naturals train the hardest
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Even if you squat with 400kg with 6 reps, I dont think you train hard.
Real hard squat is 100reps of 5 sets. I still havent done it in my life.
Paco did.
Its a regend.
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Training to failure is training to fail. Paco's drug free then?
translation: you can't push yourself and are too afraid of the 'pain' ::)
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translation: you can't push yourself and are too afraid of the 'pain' ::)
No, I'm just saying that there are more intelligent ways to train than taking it to failure everytime you train
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No, I'm just saying that there are more intelligent ways to train than taking it to failure everytime you train
like......?
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then how come he has visible abs?
I commented on a different video genius. ::)
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::) gauranteed if he was a black bodybuilder you'd have kinder words for him.
Are you suggesting cumdizzle prefers the company of huge black dongs squad?
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like......?
Ever hear of cycling your weights?
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but their big as fuck...lol
Well Paco is twice as big as these when it comes to legs.
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Well Paco is twice as big as these when it comes to legs.
ok...well big ronnie does moderate reps with big weights and he's twice as big as paco so we have come full circle
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Ever hear of cycling your weights?
ever hear of progressive overload?
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ever hear of progressive overload?
It's not progressive if you train to failure every workout
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I commented on a different video genius. ::)
watch your mouth asswipe.
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ok...well big ronnie does moderate reps with big weights and he's twice as big as paco so we have come full circle
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YEAH BUDDY! AINT NOTHING BUT A PEANUT!!!!! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TIME TO DIG DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
LIGHT WEIGHT!!!!!!!!!1
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH
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ok...well big ronnie does moderate reps with big weights and he's twice as big as paco so we have come full circle
When it comes to legs only, their leg size are quite similar.
Plus Paco has more leg detail than Ronnie.
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Dave. Training heavy and low reps isnt easy but train to the failure and high reps like 20-30reps is a hell.
Try it.
Plus they dont do peak contraction at the top. We do.
And needless to say, Paco carries one of the best legs in the world.
Are you kidding me?? I have to agree with Dave in that you're really kind of full of yourself. The whole 'peak contraction' crap......I go ass to grass and all the way up for squats...but I have NEVER done the 'peak contraction' thing with them. Why? I personally feel that your low back and hips get fatigued before quads do.
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Are you kidding me?? I have to agree with Dave in that you're really kind of full of yourself. The whole 'peak contraction' crap......I go ass to grass and all the way up for squats...but I have NEVER done the 'peak contraction' thing with them. Why? I personally feel that your low back and hips get fatigued before quads do.
Because you train to lift and accomplish the reps only.
We train for the contest. So to speak, the muscle size with quality.
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As a follow-up.....I am SO FUCKING tired of that 'light weight' comment. FUCK YOU RONNIE FOR SAYING IT!!!!
As far as training for lift and not for contest....umm...I am a drug free pro. I train for 'the contest'......trust me. These are my legs four weeks out from a show.....does it look like I only train for the 'lift'?
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Because you train to lift and accomplish the reps only.
We train for the contest. So to speak, the muscle size with quality.
havent you placed last in every event you have entered?
peak contraction would allow the muscle to rest as you are displacing some of the tension on surrounding muscles, like bench for example, stopping short of lockout keeps tension on the pecs.
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As a follow-up.....I am SO FUCKING tired of that 'light weight' comment. FUCK YOU RONNIE FOR SAYING IT!!!!
As far as training for lift and not for contest....umm...I am a drug free pro. I train for 'the contest'......trust me. These are my legs four weeks out from a show.....does it look like I only train for the 'lift'?
Ok. Sorry. You have decent legs and prop to you.
Again,I am talking about hardness. I am not talking the capability.
And according to Paco, peak contraction produce details and hardness.
If you have already owned the hard glutes, you dont have to do it.
Maybe you have hard legs and glutes than Paco.....Who knows.
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havent you placed last in every event you have entered?
peak contraction would allow the muscle to rest as you are displacing some of the tension on surrounding muscles, like bench for example, stopping short of lockout keeps tension on the pecs.
Sorry, I have competed 7 times in my life. Dead last is 3 times and 2 runner-ups.
Plus, always I competed against juicers.
Paco do that peak contraction and taught me to do it in squat movement. Are you bigger and harder than Paco?
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Are you bigger and harder than Paco?
You said "fuck these juicers". Are you saying Paco is natural while looking like chemical waste dump?
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You said "fuck these juicers". Are you saying Paco is natural while looking like chemical waste dump?
At least Paco trains 10 times harder than these juicer who trains like pussies.
And he owns better muscle quality.
Plus Paco have never got shrink like another pros for 20yrs of his bbing career.
Maybe he got the liver and kidney of iron?
Imagine that...
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every gym needs this dog.
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At least Paco trains 10 times harder than these juicer who trains like pussies.
And he owns better muscle quality.
Plus Paco have never got shrink like another pros for 20yrs of his bbing career.
Maybe he got the liver and kidney of iron?
Imagine that...
Like Natzor said: The best ones got constitution like a horse 8)
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At least Paco trains 10 times harder than these juicer who trains like pussies.
And he owns better muscle quality.
Plus Paco have never got shrink like another pros for 20yrs of his bbing career.
Maybe he got the liver and kidney of iron?
Imagine that...
But Paco is still a, "juice head"
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At least Paco trains 10 times harder than these juicer who trains like pussies.
And he owns better muscle quality.
Plus Paco have never got shrink like another pros for 20yrs of his bbing career.
Maybe he got the liver and kidney of iron?
Imagine that...
Good looking boxer
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But Paco is still a, "juice head"
He is or not.
Still he trains hard and his muscle is dense because of it unlike these pussies train like gays.
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Look at the Dorian.
Dorian trains low reps but train really hard to the failure.
Yet his muscle is dense.
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He is or not.
Still he trains hard and his muscle is dense because of it unlike these pussies train like gays.
How can you put the differencs in muscle density down to that after watching a short video of one training session? There are too many other variables. Genetics, type of drugs being used, amount and frequency of drug usage, other exercises, diet etc etc
Paco is not the be all and end all. Back to the original point though. You don't have to train to failure to train hard
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At least Paco trains 10 times harder than these juicer who trains like pussies.
And he owns better muscle quality.
Plus Paco have never got shrink like another pros for 20yrs of his bbing career.
Maybe he got the liver and kidney of iron?
Imagine that...
You said "Even if you squat with 400kg with 6 reps, I dont think you train hard.". The reason you do fewer reps with "heavy" weights is because you can't do many reps... the heavier the load the harder it is. :D
You can do lots of reps with short rests because you do easy loads. Say you do 100 reps, like you said you wanted to do, you can always do another rep. With heavier loads the failure point is way more definite i.e. you come closer to muscular failure. You never really hit failure with your light loads :D
Why not ride the Tour de France for your leg workout Kyomu? That would be pretty damn hard and you get to do lots of "reps". :D
Milos type training is good when you want to blow up the muscle with insulin. For true myofibrillar hypertrophy load is important. You as a natural would get more density and thickness with a pure powerlifting routine, with a little pumping thrown in.
Something to think about. :)
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You said "Even if you squat with 400kg with 6 reps, I dont think you train hard.". The reason you do fewer reps with "heavy" weights is because you can't do many reps... the heavier the load the harder it is. :D
You can do lots of reps with short rests because you do easy loads. Say you do 100 reps, like you said you wanted to do, you can always do another rep. With heavier loads the failure point is way more definite i.e. you come closer to muscular failure. You never really hit failure with your light loads :D
Why not ride the Tour de France for your leg workout Kyomu? That would be pretty damn hard and you get to do lots of "reps". :D
Milos type training is good when you want to blow up the muscle with insulin. For true myofibrillar hypertrophy load is important. You as a natural would get more density and thickness with a pure powerlifting routine, with a little pumping thrown in.
Something to think about. :)
Great post
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_g93bcGvgWBo/RptF6na9flI/AAAAAAAABzk/XODlc-rqTjk/s400/EvanCentopani_001.jpg)
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How can you put the differencs in muscle density down to that after watching a short video of one training session? There are too many other variables. Genetics, type of drugs being used, amount and frequency of drug usage, other exercises, diet etc etc
Paco is not the be all and end all. Back to the original point though. You don't have to train to failure to train hard
:o :o :o :o ???
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:o :o :o :o ???
You don't think powerlifters train hard?
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225 for 30 is a warm up for anyone who is serious, no offense.
haha, prove it...
oh well ::)
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You said "Even if you squat with 400kg with 6 reps, I dont think you train hard.". The reason you do fewer reps with "heavy" weights is because you can't do many reps... the heavier the load the harder it is. :D
You can do lots of reps with short rests because you do easy loads. Say you do 100 reps, like you said you wanted to do, you can always do another rep. With heavier loads the failure point is way more definite i.e. you come closer to muscular failure. You never really hit failure with your light loads :D
Why not ride the Tour de France for your leg workout Kyomu? That would be pretty damn hard and you get to do lots of "reps". :D
Milos type training is good when you want to blow up the muscle with insulin. For true myofibrillar hypertrophy load is important. You as a natural would get more density and thickness with a pure powerlifting routine, with a little pumping thrown in.
Something to think about. :)
I have never said which training is better.
Of course, sometime we do low reps with heavy TO THE FAILURE unlike these guys.
And we take a long rest.
Dorian do low reps and train really hard. Mind focus and everything. Do you see same intensity as Dorian in these guys workout?
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In my offseason the highest reps i did where with 225 for close to 20 i think.
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You don't think powerlifters train hard?
In every training, If you dont train to the limit, its not hard.
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kyomu is talking about intensity, These dudes are strong as fuck, but no intensity. And thats was kyomu is Really talking about.
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At the end of the day, Bodybuilding is the muscle !!!
it always will be
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please someone take pacos dick from kyomu wan kenobis mouth!!! please!!!!
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hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you're joking right? 500 for 12 rock bottom is "pussy leg workout"? ::)
Are you saying you judge the intensity of a workout by the weights used?
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kyomu is becoming the spaniard bigbobs... :'( :'(
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kyomu is talking about intensity, These dudes are strong as fuck, but no intensity. And thats was kyomu is Really talking about.
Exactly.
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haha, prove it...
oh well ::)
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haha what a fucking clown
225 for over 30 reps LOL
95% of the people in the gym can't do 225 for 4 reps ass to the grass, real form.
maybe quakeroats should make a video and show us how easily 225 for over 30 reps is done, because he is 'serious' about lifting :D
this is why he is 40 years old and has never been below 30% bodyfat and has 10 inch calves lol
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Exactly.
exactly, training heavy is not training hard, he wasn't pushing himself at all
kyomu i think you will appreciate how hard this man trained 8)
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i like centopani....
definetly... top 5 o potential in the future..
very cool guy too
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exactly, training heavy is not training hard, he wasn't pushing himself at all
kyomu i think you will appreciate how hard this man trained 8)
THIS IS A REAL HARD TRAINING.
I have this video.
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Good motivation for my leg w/o later.
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Melvin Anthony had said, "If you have to take a yr off to add size to compete with the pros, then you don't deserve to compete with the pros" All the most successful pros have jumped right in. Plus plus you get name recognition. And how much size do you need to gain in 2 yrs? Ronnie Coleman is not competing. And the focus on size, sometimes effs dudes up. Just look at Trey.
If he did it to take time off, good!! I was impressed with Evan when he appeared in MD, he looked like a better version of Bob Chick, awesome arms and legs.
You do realise that Dorian won the British in 1988,then took 2 years off before he competed as a pro.He said at the time he didn`t want to just compete as a pro,he wanted to be a successful pro.The 2 years off were needed to make the gains he felt he needed to be successful.I think his plan kinda worked.
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hes single digit...its only water bloat
I hope you're joking
if not please delete your account
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I hope you're joking
if not please delete your account
hahahaha don't you just love these dumb needle up the ass fagggots?
that guy's double chin is obviously only water lol
they have no idea about bodybuilding, all he knows is where to stick the needle :D
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Yates always trained hard, this pic always inspired me.
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Yates always trained hard, this pic always inspired me.
Yes, When it comes to training. He is a role model.
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At the end of the day, Bodybuilding is the muscle !!!
it always will be
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Look at the Dorian.
Dorian trains low reps but train really hard to the failure.
Yet his muscle is dense.
I have watched Blood and Guts over and over and over....show me where he focuses on the 'peak contraction' during legs on things like squats, leg presses, hacks, etc.
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In every training, If you dont train to the limit, its not hard.
As a natural I think I go to absolute failure very rarely. I have found that I dont progress with weights as much. My joints ache more...and I feel like crap when that particular bodypart rolls around.
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When it comes to legs only, their leg size are quite similar.
Plus Paco has more leg detail than Ronnie.
lol
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As a natural I think I go to absolute failure very rarely. I have found that I dont progress with weights as much. My joints ache more...and I feel like crap when that particular bodypart rolls around.
I dont understand it clearly. Can you explain bit more about this?
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I have watched Blood and Guts over and over and over....show me where he focuses on the 'peak contraction' during legs on things like squats, leg presses, hacks, etc.
No he dont do it. So?
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I dont understand it clearly. Can you explain bit more about this?
Meaning that when going to failure every single set...every single workout my progress from workout to workout is not as good as when I back off slightly
No he dont do it. So?
Well...you are insinuating that when someone doesnt go to failure all the time they are a pussy. Because Paco does...his word is king. King Dorian would disagree. ;D
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Meaning that when going to failure every single set...every single workout my progress from workout to workout is not as good as when I back off slightly
Well...you are insinuating that when someone doesnt go to failure all the time they are a pussy. Because Paco does...his word is king. King Dorian would disagree. ;D
how many Olympia's has Paco won?
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Meaning that when going to failure every single set...every single workout my progress from workout to workout is not as good as when I back off slightly
Well...you are insinuating that when someone doesnt go to failure all the time they are a pussy. Because Paco does...his word is king. King Dorian would disagree. ;D
I see Dorian is doing til failure. What do you say?
Pacos trainer and Pacos philosophy, if you are overtrained,you dont eat enough. Up the dose of protein.
You can go to failure.
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225 for 30 is a warm up for anyone who is serious, no offense.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
You just proved you don't squat.
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Melvin is the most overrated bodybuilder in the business but Parker rides his jock because he's black. ::)
nope, I am actually disappointed in him, and I got into it with on here a few yrs back. When Mel is in shape, he has one of the best back double bis in the business. And that is not me saying that.
You do realise that Dorian won the British in 1988,then took 2 years off before he competed as a pro.He said at the time he didn`t want to just compete as a pro,he wanted to be a successful pro.The 2 years off were needed to make the gains he felt he needed to be successful.I think his plan kinda worked.
Yep, I was gonna mention that. Dorian was an anomaly. If you think about the late 80's early 90's, they didn't have the quality of the mid to late 90's. The group will probably never be surpassed.
Today, when Richard Jones got his Pro card, you tell he had similar qaulities to Shawn Ray. When Phil Heath got his pro card, you can tell he was gonna be a contender. And typically today where most don't go pro until their late 20's early to mid 30's, they have already gained enough size. Phil Heath has already gotten to big.
But wth Evan? The wide waist...and the wait for 2 yrs are gonna hurt him. But I will reserve my comments until he competes. Because he looked his best in MD a few yrs back, and I have both issues in which he details his biceps routine and his triceps routine.
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Ronnie looked incredible at 300lb,
this guy looks good, but he is def not a "Freak of nature"
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
You just proved you don't squat.
He squats 585 ;)
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Fat guy does unimpressive leg workout. Wow.
Look out pros because here comes Evan "National Hero" Centowhatthefuck.
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He squats 585 ;)
I believe it is 545 for 6 ;D
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dam, dudes a beast, now thats what i call leg training. :o :o
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dam, dudes a beast, now thats what i call leg training. :o :o
yeah i agree but guys like "kyomu" aren't impressed because he's not squatting 185 for 40. ::)
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I believe it is 545 for 6 ;D
lmfao did he mean less presses?
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lmfao did he mean less presses?
hahaha, calm down Mr. Disability Collector, chew on this. ;D
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::) gauranteed if he was a black bodybuilder you'd have kinder words for him.
LOL. Classic Dave.
Parker is right. He may be cool but lets see what he can do onstage. In the meantime you can keep hoping and dreaming for that great white hope among the dominant, negroid, beasts. ;D
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hahaha, calm down Mr. Disability Collector, chew on this. ;D
He could squat 585 for reps my how much in common you both have although you said your arms were bigger ;)
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I see Dorian is doing til failure. What do you say?
Pacos trainer and Pacos philosophy, if you are overtrained,you dont eat enough. Up the dose of protein.age
You can go to failure.
My opinion of Paco has plummeted if this is as much thought that he puts into training
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My opinion of Paco has plummeted if this is as much thought that he puts into training
It seems that Paco is the only pro he has ever worked out with. Paco is his big Spanish brother. I wish he would explain how Paco got those Big Spanish udders a few yrs back.
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It seems that Paco is the only pro he has ever worked out with. Paco is his big Spanish brother. I wish he would explain how Paco got those Big Spanish udders a few yrs back.
What I don't get is how someone can believe there is no such thing as overtraining, just under eating and also that always training to failure is productive for a natural...
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In every training, If you dont train to the limit, its not hard.
If you do train to the limit each and every time, and aren't on the juice, good luck making gains. You'll start heading backwards. You think lifters go to the wall each workout? Hell no. Most people stop making gains after a couple of year in the gym. You see a lot of 185 * 6 benches, 80*6 barbell curls and so forth. I hit a wall after a few years and had an opportunity to talk to Mr. Universe Bill Pearl at a seminar. He told me straight up to always leave a few reps in reserve. The last rep should feel tough, but if a gun was to your head 2 or even 3 more would be possible.
After this I went from 185 for 6 to 185 for 11 on the bench. The next year 205 for 8. The year after 215 for 9. The year after 235 for 6. It took 3 more years to get to 275 * 7 but I got there. Now my bench isn't much compared to some of the power guys on here but my point is that very few people can withstand training to the limit too often. Most won't progress. If most people in the gym made half decent progress over 5 - 10 years of training you'd see just about everyone repping 225 *12 for sets of 4 on the bench no problem in every gym. In my gym maybe every 15th guy gets that (yes it's not a hardcore gym and most guys are natural).
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If you do train to the limit each and every time, and aren't on the juice, good luck making gains. You'll start heading backwards. You think lifters go to the wall each workout? Hell no.
Wrong. As long as you take enough time off between workouts to recover, you'll be fine. Just throw in a couple of weeks every few months to give your body and it's various systems a break. I've been training to failure on all my sets for over 15 years, am natural and never had any problems making gains.
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What I don't get is how someone can believe there is no such thing as overtraining, just under eating and also that always training to failure is productive for a natural...
If you do train to the limit each and every time, and aren't on the juice, good luck making gains. You'll start heading backwards. You think lifters go to the wall each workout? Hell no.
Yep...and Yep.
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Golds Gym New Haven in da house
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He is or not.
Still he trains hard and his muscle is dense because of it unlike these pussies train like gays.
Is Paco doing the NY Pro this year? ;)
We can see who is truely the better bodybuilder ;D
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Is Paco doing the NY Pro this year? ;)
We can see who is truely the better bodybuilder ;D
Yes.
Who is biger and more dense? Paco hands down.
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What I don't get is how someone can believe there is no such thing as overtraining, just under eating and also that always training to failure is productive for a natural...
If you insist that hard, you have a experience of real good growth no? Post some pic of you.
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If you do train to the limit each and every time, and aren't on the juice, good luck making gains. You'll start heading backwards. You think lifters go to the wall each workout? Hell no. Most people stop making gains after a couple of year in the gym. You see a lot of 185 * 6 benches, 80*6 barbell curls and so forth. I hit a wall after a few years and had an opportunity to talk to Mr. Universe Bill Pearl at a seminar. He told me straight up to always leave a few reps in reserve. The last rep should feel tough, but if a gun was to your head 2 or even 3 more would be possible.
After this I went from 185 for 6 to 185 for 11 on the bench. The next year 205 for 8. The year after 215 for 9. The year after 235 for 6. It took 3 more years to get to 275 * 7 but I got there. Now my bench isn't much compared to some of the power guys on here but my point is that very few people can withstand training to the limit too often. Most won't progress. If most people in the gym made half decent progress over 5 - 10 years of training you'd see just about everyone repping 225 *12 for sets of 4 on the bench no problem in every gym. In my gym maybe every 15th guy gets that (yes it's not a hardcore gym and most guys are natural).
How much protein do you eat?
Can you post your pic?
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Kyomu,you contribute a lot to this board,but you are in danger of turning everyone against Paco like the muslim pricks on here turned everyone against Nasser with your faultless views of him that you always seem to have to tell us about
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Kyomu,you contribute a lot to this board,but you are in danger of turning everyone against Paco like the muslim pricks on here turned everyone against Nasser with your faultless views of him that you always seem to have to tell us about
I am not worshipping anybody like Nasser worshipper.
Just I feel that many people are afraid of training with super intensity and eating tons of protein.
Why?
Cus both of them are really painful and very strong forcus required.
Its funny that many people dont agree with me and send me many personal mails to ask how i improved my physic at the same time.
There is no secret at all. Super intense long training + mega dose of raw protein(Not powder or processed). Thats it.
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I am not worshipping anybody like Nasser worshipper.
Just I feel that many people are afraid of training with super intensity and eating tons of protein.
Why?
Cus both of them are really painful and very strong forcus required.
Its funny that many people dont agree with me and send me many personal mails to ask how i improved my physic at the same time.
There is no secret at all. Super intense long training + mega dose of raw protein(Not powder or processed). Thats it.
Dont even fucking go there,I am about 80lbs heavier than you and Im a 2time National Champion here in Ireland
I know how to train and how to eat
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Dont even fucking go there,I am about 80lbs heavier than you and Im a 2time National Champion here in Ireland
I know how to train and how to eat
Hey, I am not talking to you personaly.
Plus,you didnt say any objection to my opinion still.
I say to these people who dont agreed with me.
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Im not knocking you either,I did say you contribute a lot to this site and its nice to see guys that actually compete post on here but,and I like Paco,I tried to get him guestposing here 3yrs ago (they eventually hired Gustavo Badell instead) but you must understand,Paco is not the be all and end all of bodybuilding,although a thread on Paco's eating/resting pattern I would love to see,thank you
Ps I have no doubt guys pm you for advice,you have a great natural physique
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Im not knocking you either,I did say you contribute a lot to this site and its nice to see guys that actually compete post on here but,and I like Paco,I tried to get him guestposing here 3yrs ago (they eventually hired Gustavo Badell instead) but you must understand,Paco is not the be all and end all of bodybuilding,although a thread on Paco's eating/resting pattern I would love to see,thank you
Ps I have no doubt guys pm you for advice,you have a great natural physique
Thanx a lot.
Why dont you invite him to your show now too? He will be really appriciated. :)
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Im not knocking you either,I did say you contribute a lot to this site and its nice to see guys that actually compete post on here but,and I like Paco,I tried to get him guestposing here 3yrs ago (they eventually hired Gustavo Badell instead) but you must understand,Paco is not the be all and end all of bodybuilding,although a thread on Paco's eating/resting pattern I would love to see,thank you
Ps I have no doubt guys pm you for advice,you have a great natural physique
okami are you involved in the bb industry?
correct me if i understood wrong.
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okami are you involved in the bb industry?
correct me if i understood wrong.
Well I compete,well havent in 3years now,but we run a show here every 2yrs and normally get a good guest poser,next year we hope to have Branch Warren or Phil Heath over
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Well I compete,well havent in 3years now,but we run a show here every 2yrs and normally get a good guest poser,next year we hope to have Branch Warren or Phil Heath over
Okami, you are one big bastard, so I'm curious - what was/is your best lift and what are your big three numbers?
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Well I compete,well havent in 3years now,but we run a show here every 2yrs and normally get a good guest poser,next year we hope to have Branch Warren or Phil Heath over
thats cool.
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Okami, you are one big bastard, so I'm curious - what was/is your best lift and what are your big three numbers?
Well I train for muscle,not for strenght more so but my best lifts are 660lbs for 3reps,395lbs bench for a single and deadlift 570lbs for 3reps
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I kind of agree with kyomu although this might be a bad example since evan trains at least somewhat hard. Overall it's just a difference between euro and american guys it seems. Watch a markus ruhl or ronnie rockel video for example, these guys DO push to failure too. Most americans just seem too lazy to do it :P
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I kind of agree with kyomu although this might be a bad example since evan trains at least somewhat hard. Overall it's just a difference between euro and american guys it seems. Watch a markus ruhl or ronnie rockel video for example, these guys DO push to failure too. Most americans just seem too lazy to do it :P
Metroflex people(Ronnie, Branch...etc) seem like training hard.
I dont know well but the rest of american pros look like training like gay.
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GREAT VIDEO AND WORKOUT BUT EVAN HAS A LONG WAY BEFORE HE CAN COMPETE WITH THE BIG GUYS!
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Metroflex people(Ronnie, Branch...etc) seem like training hard.
I dont know well but the rest of american pros look like training like gay.
People do what they need to do to get results. Everybody claimed Paul Dillet was a "gay" trainer in your terms but the man was absolutely huge. When he tried to train heavy duty, he was losing size. Now you can claim his method of training doesn't work comparing to yours but he had the biggest shoulders, and arms in bodybuilding. You're not taking into account difference in genetics by stating everybody responds best to only your way of training.
As for Paco, he's big but looks like a disaster. From one bodypart to another he's off balance. How would he look training the way he does without the pharmacy in his bloodstream?
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If you insist that hard, you have a experience of real good growth no? Post some pic of you.
There are pictures of me on this site already.
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And according to Paco, peak contraction produce details and hardness.
If you have already owned the hard glutes, you dont have to do it.
Maybe you have hard legs and glutes than Paco.....Who knows.
Again, why are you comparing training styles , hardness, or physiques using Paco. Paco uses a huge amount of drugs to look the way he does. You're comparing apples and oranges. How would Paco look OFF training like this. If this training style is all it took everyone would do it. In the end people do what gets them results.
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Dorian--multiple torn muscles
Paco-- G4P video
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I have never said which training is better.
Of course, sometime we do low reps with heavy TO THE FAILURE unlike these guys.
And we take a long rest.
Dorian do low reps and train really hard. Mind focus and everything. Do you see same intensity as Dorian in these guys workout?
Intesnity isnt somehting you an always see, and sometimes when yout hink you see intensity, theres actually no intensity at all. just because dorians partner was yelling like a fool and dorian was gruntng and acting like a badass, doesnt necessarily mean that dorian was lifting with extreme intensity. its very possible that evan was lifting more intensity in this videa than dorian ever trained.
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GREAT VIDEO AND WORKOUT BUT EVAN HAS A LONG WAY BEFORE HE CAN COMPETE WITH THE BIG GUYS!
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