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:: OFF TOPIC - # 16 - Bodybuilding 101 Clinic With Milos Sarcev - Sarcev is one of the most sought after training, nutrition and drug consultants to professional Bodybuilders worldwide. He delivers in this episode of OFF TOPIC and gives the information you want to hear. ::
This episode:
http://www.superhumanradio.com/media/ot/OT-05072009.mp3
List of past episodes:
http://www.superhumanradio.com/media/ot/OT.xml
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Is that any AM or FM station? :)
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It can be found on iTunes (among many other internet based sites)... The show is produced by Triceptor Productions run by my Co-host Carl Lanore. Carl also hosts SuperHumanRadio.com... a daily show about all things physical culture.
I hope you all enjoy the show(s)!
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What has Carl Lanore and yourself done in the fields of bodybuilding and fitness? Besides the radio shows?
I don't mean this in a bad way.
Thanks
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Good job on the show Aaron, another top notch episode by you and Carl Lanore.
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It can be found on iTunes (among many other internet based sites)... The show is produced by Triceptor Productions run by my Co-host Carl Lanore. Carl also hosts SuperHumanRadio.com... a daily show about all things physical culture.
I hope you all enjoy the show(s)!
Are you a super hero?
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thanx, lookin forward to listening to it after i go to the gym tonite.
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What has Carl Lanore and yourself done in the fields of bodybuilding and fitness? Besides the radio shows?
I don't mean this in a bad way.
Thanks
Of course... I am originally from New Orleans, and have won or placed in the top three in many bodybuilding shows in that region (7 shows). I have worked for Infinite Labs, a nutritional supplement company, as a area rep... along with being a personal trainer for 10 years. I have also helped to prepare other athletes for local, national, and pro events. Other than that, I've been a avid fan of bodybuilding, fitness, and figure since I was a child (I'm 29 years old now). I got started with Carl because I was an active fan of his other show SuperhumanRadio.com, and called in several times with suggestions and atta-boys. At the time I was just a regular (addicted) member of musculardevelopment.com. .. Since the shake-up at MD all of my posts as well as the radio shows (OFF TOPIC and SuperHumanRadio) have been removed! But that's a whole other subject...
I'll pass this on to Carl and allow him to answer for himself...
I hope each one of you will at least listen to the first 15 minutes of ANY of our shows... If you do that, I think we'll getcha!
(*NOTE: I was admittedly loaded for the most recent Milos show... I'm normally not.)
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Good job on the show Aaron, another top notch episode by you and Carl Lanore.
Thanks always for your support Bro!
(When we get the t-shirts finished be sure to hit me up for one!)
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I hope each one of you will at least listen to the first 15 minutes of ANY of our shows... If you do that, I think we'll getcha!
(*NOTE: I was admittedly loaded for the most recent Milos show... I'm normally not.)
I listened to your interview with Dave Palumbo and I thought it was very thorough and interesting. I will definitely be listening when I see a potentially interesting guest coming on.
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What has Carl Lanore and yourself done in the fields of bodybuilding and fitness? Besides the radio shows?
I don't mean this in a bad way.
Thanks
Hi this is Carl. While I've not competed in bodybuilding I live a dedicated life as a physical culturist. My journey began in 1998 when I was diagnosed with a degenerative heart disease and relegated to a shorter pharmacologically dependant life. I was over 350 pounds. I made the decision to regain my heath and vitality through physical culture and abandoned what my physicians were selling.
I train as had as any competitive athlete and live a dedicated life and have done so for the past 10 years. Today I'm a very lean 230 pounds, take no pharmaceuticals, have reversed my heart disease and in better shape at 50 years of age than I was in my 20's and 30's. My journey into better health revealed to me the lies and conspiracies that the medical orthodoxy promote. I became a zealot and started doing Super Human Radio almost 4 years ago to spread the word.. the truth.
I began on a small AM station in Louisville KY and by the beginning of the third year was on in 38 markets including Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix and Orlando to name a few of the larger cities. Early in 2008 I realised that AM was not my audience and decided to shift my focus to Internet radio. I purchased a SHOUTcast server and now have an AOL SHOUTcast channel that can be heard on mobile devices, web enabled radios and of course on the Internet using your computer. This IS the future of ALL radio.
On Super Human Radio I talk about all topics related to health, fitness and longevity with an emphasis on physical culture and therapeutic modalities that emulate the body's natural functions like hormone replacement therapies. I interview experts, scientist and authors with one goal in mind... improving the human condition.
OFF TOPIC was a show that I developed with Aaron Singerman in mind. I wanted to have a show that was edgy and fun and not all science. My goal is to pull myslef away from OFF TOPIC after a period of time and have Aaron host it perhaps with a co-host of his choice.
I'm in the process of developing several other new talk shows for my Internet station with the goal of having all the programming in place for first Q 2010.
Well... that's my story.
Carl
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You sound like a fraud...You claim to be a physical culturist yet you support corrupt individuals like Palumbo and Sarcev by allowing them airtime? What gives?
You are a hypocrite. You are not a defender and believer in the health and fitness industry. Quite to the contrary. If you were, then you wouldn't allow known drug abusers, convicted felons and dirty scum dealers a presence on your radio show.
You are a disgrace.
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You sound like a fraud...You claim to be a physical culturist yet you support corrupt individuals like Palumbo and Sarcev by allowing them airtime? What gives?
You are a hypocrite. You are not a defender and believer in the health and fitness industry. Quite to the contrary. If you were, then you wouldn't allow known drug abusers, convicted felons and dirty scum dealers a presence on your radio show.
You are a disgrace.
He has interviewed them on Aaron's show not his own... iirc
BTW, ignore Hank
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You sound like a fraud...You claim to be a physical culturist yet you support corrupt individuals like Palumbo and Sarcev by allowing them airtime? What gives?
You are a hypocrite. You are not a defender and believer in the health and fitness industry. Quite to the contrary. If you were, then you wouldn't allow known drug abusers, convicted felons and dirty scum dealers a presence on your radio show.
You are a disgrace.
I'm not a hypocrite. I use those same drugs myself. Albeit by prescription.. but none the less some of the same drugs. Sorry we all can't be as virtuous as you.
So you're saying the anti aging community is wrong for using hormones? That millions of HRT recipients are scum bags? And can't be defenders of health and fitness? You have a very rigid and narrow view and that's a shame. What I really thinks is you simply have an axe to grind with Palumbo and Sarcev.
Carl
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I expected more discussions about everybody's favourite athlete's rep the one and only Bob Chick.
Instead there was drug talk which 99.9% of people listening to that show will never use.
P.s, the hosts of that show claim to know alot about bodybuilding/drug use etc. yet i have never seen one picture of them that proves they are in good shape currently.
And who would take advice from Milos isn't he the man who syntholized his arteries?
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I'm not a hypocrite. I use those same drugs myself. Albeit by prescription.. but none the less some of the same drugs. Sorry we all can't be as virtuous as you.
So you're saying the anti aging community is wrong for using hormones? That millions of HRT recipients are scum bags? And can't be defenders of health and fitness? You have a very rigid and narrow view and that's a shame. What I really thinks is you simply have an axe to grind with Palumbo and Sarcev.
Carl
Carl, Didn't catch your show with Milos Sarcev, however I listened to your show #299 S&C Coach John Scheffer. I thought it was excellent.
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Good show with great hosts
Very open
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So milos claims you only need 750mg of test to be a IFBB pro
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So milos claims you only need 750mg of test to be a IFBB pro
I didn't hear......did he mention the amount of insulin needed to make up for the low dose?
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I didn't hear......did he mention the amount of insulin needed to make up for the low dose?
He said 20iu before or after a workout
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HAHA he laid the smack down on Nasser and GH15, said Nasser is a moron and is to lazy to post on here as GH15 and has one of his lackeys do it for him.
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He said 20iu before or after a workout
is that how much you take? are you mads because your doses are higher than what milos says is necessary yet you dont look like his bb'ers? dont worry, milos is a liar.
btw why didnt you answer me last night
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is that how much you take? are you mads because your doses are higher than what milos says is necessary yet you dont look like his bb'ers? dont worry, milos is a liar.
btw why didnt you answer me last night
how much test do you think Milos recommends?
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is that how much you take? are you mads because your doses are higher than what milos says is necessary yet you dont look like his bb'ers? dont worry, milos is a liar.
btw why didnt you answer me last night
Are you saying his claims of 750mg are false?
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how much test do you think Milos recommends?
I dont know.
However Im quite sure that none of the bodybuilders he trains are using 750mg per week like he says.
with all the slin he uses, which i have heard is no less than 60iu per day, his bb'ers could get aaway with less steroids, however i dont think that necessarily means that they will use less. ( why not use more and gain more?)
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I dont know.
However Im quite sure that none of the bodybuilders he trains are using 750mg per week like he says.
with all the slin he uses, which i have heard is no less than 60iu per day, his bb'ers could get aaway with less steroids, however i dont think that necessarily means that they will use less. ( why not use more and gain more?)
I don't cover for Milos very often, but I can say 750mg is entirely possible. Don't get caught up in believing too many claims people make.
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I don't cover for Milos very often, but I can say 750mg is entirely possible. Don't get caught up in believing too many claims people make.
you think its possible to look like anybody in the top 10 of the mr olympia (who milos said he could guarantee not a single on was usign alot of drugs) on 750mg per week?
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you think its possible to look like anybody in the top 10 of the mr olympia (who milos said he could guarantee not a single on was usign alot of drugs) on 750mg per week?
Give or take, yes it's possible.
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I don't cover for Milos very often, but I can say 750mg is entirely possible. Don't get caught up in believing too many claims people make.
This may be what Milos recommends or thinks is OK to recommend publicly but he knows damn well most of his guys don't do it. Same with the GH doses of 2-6iu or none at all. Milos even claimed this is in line with what Ronnie and Jay do/did.
Give or take, yes it's possible.
None in the O top 10 were doing more??
Is that what Milos said on the show?
Do you believe this Coach?
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This may be what Milos recommends or thinks is OK to recommend publicly but he knows damn well most of his guys don't do it. Same with the GH doses of 2-6iu or none at all. Milos even claimed this is in line with what Ronnie and Jay do/did.
None in the O top 10 were doing more??
Is that what Milos said on the show?
Do you believe this Coach?
no he didnt say specifically that no top 10 competitor was using mroe than 750mgs, he said "i can guaranatee that no one in the top 10 at the mr.o is abusing steroids like people talk about on getbig.com" or something like that
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is that how much you take? are you mads because your doses are higher than what milos says is necessary yet you dont look like his bb'ers? dont worry, milos is a liar.
btw why didnt you answer me last night
Hell no, I've never used HGH, what did you ask me last night?
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no he didnt say specifically that no top 10 competitor was using mroe than 750mgs, he said "i can guaranatee that no one in the top 10 at the mr.o is abusing steroids like people talk about on getbig.com" or something like that
Maybe none are as crazy as Milos himself. Almost died from Synthol, had thyroid storm from OD'ing thyroid meds, hooked himself up to an IV of plasma expanders after Nasser told him about is as a joke, made himself hypo numerous times while experimenting with different insulins, bought unknown, in retrospect possibly very toxic diuretics from Chad for $500 a pop. Maybe none are crazy abusers like Milos. ;) :D
No, none of them would do anything that could be called abuse. None of them would fail a drug test for having 5 different diuretics in his system. And etc. :D
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Hell no, I've never used HGH, what did you ask me last night?
lmao... i would have asked, but you didnt answer.
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Oh ok
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I don't cover for Milos very often, but I can say 750mg is entirely possible. Don't get caught up in believing too many claims people make.
he said 750mg of just testosterone not other substanes included.
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Maybe none are as crazy as Milos himself. Almost died from Synthol, had thyroid storm from OD'ing thyroid meds, hooked himself up to an IV of plasma expanders after Nasser told him about is as a joke, made himself hypo numerous times while experimenting with different insulins, bought unknown, in retrospect possibly very toxic diuretics from Chad for $500 a pop. Maybe none are crazy abusers like Milos. ;) :D
No, none of them would do anything that could be called abuse. None of them would fail a drug test for having 5 different diuretics in his system. And etc. :D
haahahahah
p.s aaron singerman says hes a fairly lean 265lbs, i'm calling bullshit there lol
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haahahahah
p.s aaron singerman says hes a fairly lean 265lbs, i'm calling bullshit there lol
I'm 6'2... and I have pictures on the net... but if that isn't good enough for you I work out EVERY DAY at LA Fitness in the Medical Center in Houston Texas... Come see for yourself, and I'll be glad to train with you!
(BTW, Aaron Singerman IS my real name)
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I'm 6'2... and I have pictures on the net... but if that isn't good enough for you I work out EVERY DAY at LA Fitness in the Medical Center in Houston Texas... Come see for yourself, and I'll be glad to train with you!
(BTW, Aaron Singerman IS my real name)
so your saying that your bigger than Arnold ever was? ::) you must be a monster why don't you have a pro card.
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so your saying that your bigger than Arnold ever was? ::) you must be a monster why don't you have a pro card.
There are plenty of guys a "fairly lean" 260
It doesn't mean he has the genetic muscle shape of a elite bodybuilder
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haahahahah
p.s aaron singerman says hes a fairly lean 265lbs, i'm calling bullshit there lol
he is, he looks awesome. he used to post on MD. he had his pic in his avatar.
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There are plenty of guys a "fairly lean" 260
It doesn't mean he has the genetic muscle shape of a elite bodybuilder
He claimed 263lbs and at 12%, I'm calling BS without pics as well.
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this is the pic he had as his avatar on md, hes the big, lean one.
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he is, he looks awesome. he used to post on MD. he had his pic in his avatar.
Yeah Aaron looks great and he seems like a knowlegeable dude !
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:: OFF TOPIC - # 16 - Bodybuilding 101 Clinic With Milos Sarcev - Sarcev is one of the most sought after training, nutrition and drug consultants to professional Bodybuilders worldwide. He delivers in this episode of OFF TOPIC and gives the information you want to hear. ::
This episode:
http://www.superhumanradio.com/media/ot/OT-05072009.mp3
List of past episodes:
http://www.superhumanradio.com/media/ot/OT.xml
aaron :
question for u
why don't you go fuck yourself ?
honestly
plus getbig has a policy against morons
plus you are a bore trying to fit in , an insecure homosexual fag if I may
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Aaron, I'm listening to the show and wonder why you didn't have your questions ready wrt the insulin? And you didn't know why the guy on the forums thought levemir (not Levalar or whatever you called it) was better. Now Milos just went into his usual rant adding nothing we haven't heard a million times before. Nothing new is added.
Yeah I know you were whacked out on rec drugs. Highly unprofessional. :D
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Aaron, I'm listening to the show and wonder why you didn't have your questions ready wrt the insulin? And you didn't know why the guy on the forums thought levemir (not Levalar or whatever you called it) was better. Now Milos just went into his usual rant adding nothing we haven't heard a million times before. Nothing new is added.
Yeah I know you were whacked out on rec drugs. Highly unprofessional. :D
its lantis. 24 hour inisulin. this guy maxtiter says that humalog wont do shit and that lantis is the only one to provide results. he also doesnt think that its necessary to avoid fat intake while slin is active.
to put it shortly the guy is dumb
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its lantis. 24 hour inisulin. this guy maxtiter says that humalog wont do shit and that lantis is the only one to provide results. he also doesnt think that its necessary to avoid fat intake while slin is active.
to put it shortly the guy is dumb
He was talking up two different long acting insulins, levemir and lantus. Hyping the levemir more than the lantus.
Yeah I mentioned the same before, I haven't been impressed by his info. Though for growth simply increasing total insulin levels may not be a stupid idea IMO (instead of the window of opportunity thing).
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He was talking up two different long acting insulins, levemir and lantus. Hyping the levemir more than the lantus.
Yeah I mentioned the same before, I haven't been impressed by his info. Though for growth simply increasing total insulin levels may not be a stupid idea IMO (instead of the window of opportunity thing).
why not take t3 instead.. t3 increases basal insulin levels...
maybe lantus is great for somebody on gh who has al day long insulin insensitivity
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why not take t3 instead.. t3 increases basal insulin levels...
So does GH, steroids too sometimes.
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Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2Z7VYcC8u4c/R2rGQEM-zMI/AAAAAAAAA-s/StzB2zqT2vY/s400/arnold-schwarzenegger-conan-the-barbarian-c10102058-copy.jpeg)
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Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2Z7VYcC8u4c/R2rGQEM-zMI/AAAAAAAAA-s/StzB2zqT2vY/s400/arnold-schwarzenegger-conan-the-barbarian-c10102058-copy.jpeg)
You need to forget weight in terms of bodybuilding mate,you can have guys weighing 200 pds but look 220-230 because of genetic structure fullness shape of there muscles..pure visual sport.
And aaron looks fukin great , id have no concerns beleiving his weight claims
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Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2Z7VYcC8u4c/R2rGQEM-zMI/AAAAAAAAA-s/StzB2zqT2vY/s400/arnold-schwarzenegger-conan-the-barbarian-c10102058-copy.jpeg)
Have you ever been to a National Level Bodybuilding contest? Let alone the Arnold or the Olympia Expo? I was just in Columbus for the Arnold and there had to be DOZENS of guys my size or larger... and many of them larger and LEANER. Hell, last year in Chicago for Jr. Nationals half the whole Super Heavy Weight class were larger and leaner than I've ever been... Here is something interesting for you... google: Noah Steere...
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Maybe none are as crazy as Milos himself. Almost died from Synthol, had thyroid storm from OD'ing thyroid meds, hooked himself up to an IV of plasma expanders after Nasser told him about is as a joke, made himself hypo numerous times while experimenting with different insulins, bought unknown, in retrospect possibly very toxic diuretics from Chad for $500 a pop. Maybe none are crazy abusers like Milos. ;) :D
No, none of them would do anything that could be called abuse. None of them would fail a drug test for having 5 different diuretics in his system. And etc. :D
There is distinctive difference between abusing something and having unfortunate accident...
Considering that I competed in 110 shows (72 IFBB pro + 38 Amateur) - don't you think I had "plenty of chances" to have little accidents...but had only TWO - both when someone else was "helping me" administer certain medication (yes - I chose not to say drugs - as IT IS MEDICATION after all...
Now, some people take chances in their lives - believing in themselves...having NO FEAR..going after their (sometimes numerous or multiple) ultimate goals...wherever those goals might take them...And some, IN FEAR OF FAILING, don't even EVER attempt to try anything?!!?? (and i've met so many of those - it is NOT even funny. And some even wear T-shirts "FAIL-PROOF" or "FAILURE FREE" - their parents, senior citizens, paid for it...calling their acquaintances at best (in lack of any friends) from local PAY PHONES (as they can only dream about cell phones) loudly talking about their "fail-proof for life" accomplishments, bragging about absolutely PRISTINE "fail-free" record...
FEAR-FREE people recognize their obstacles and take them as "little something" on the road - along the way...they could go around, over and/or through them...and for "fearless" few every problem does have easy and almost instant SOLUTION - if everyone simply focuses on finding the "BEST solution HOW TO" rather than finding BEST excuse...WHY THEY DIDN'T - solve the problem, only FAIL-FREE people would do - justifying forfeit of some result or competition - due to hardly noticeable wind as fresh and very light breeze...they dramatically described as once in the lifetime super cyclonic storm they Baptisted in Weather Canal News as: first name General - Typhoon and last name Major Hurricane ...that ALMOST KILL THEM in their successful, above everything - heroic and borderline - inhuman effort to escape that "killer wind".
Knowing what we want and who we really are...is absolute must...and if GOALS that are set require WHATEVER DIFFICULTY= so be it...(like 23 year old Socialist-kid growing in small Village in Yugoslavia, without monetary help from his parents and WITHOUT their support to leave to US...with total of $428 in pocket, with SPIK NO ENGLEZE, except: love you, fu.k you, how do you do, nice shoes - you want to fuck? [in 7 different languages - as ultimately - in every language after clear compliment to the lady (shoes...) it is perfectly OK to ASK for whatever else...with big smile and pretending that you have no idea what you just said...which worked about 97% of the time - if you really want to know...]
So, Van Build-that-ass - you've heard about "live/die by the sword" kind of guys (like that Moron that almost killed himself 100 times - experimenting something that he eventually "mastered it" and later brought into the IFBB and sports in general...to share his findings and teach hundreds, and those hundreds to later tech thousands around the world...yet still somehow alive and kicking) - or you know only "your kind" "live/die with the fork" type who are looking for what?
Excuses WHY NOT (none of the "forklifters" are crazy enough to try...something that could make them - exactly what they dream about the most, thus - spending LIFE by being all day on bodybuilding boards, reading magazines., training in the gym longer than some pros, and more often than NOT - taking MORE steroids that Olympia competitors ..etc...but - just like that fox that didn't really, necessarily actually even want those sour tasting - green grapes...which happened to be - out of reach...you guys don't want to be PRO BODIBUILDERS ?)
Who had better chances becoming a pro?
Me, growing up in Yugoslavia - with hardly any money - thousands of miles away from "bodybuilding center of the world" - State of California...or maybe...YOU...and others like YOU...that would certainly stop even thinking of having some super sexy figure babe - after careful consideration that "pubic hair" indeed could be the obstacle you'll never be able to overcome?!
(Just ask Nasser "the Gigolo" ;D about...and don't worry "gentleman never tells" is not exactly his motto...And easy to realize reasons to be first to tell the story, as well as his - choices of topics :
(1): need to express "duration" of his attempt - to talk about what was suppose to be unforgettable sexual experience to "never got a second chance with any women I've attempted to have sex with" BEFORE other side of the story could be heard.
(2): stupidity of even mentioning "naming" with pride !? of Nasser's most valuable asset - (he uses to "think" with - much more often than his head ) - as cutie could not be used for anything else - not realizing, or thinking for a second, to ask anyone what could possibly be good or great about hearing "little cutie"
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₯@ €@ct£₯ M@n
;D
I could not agree more - I can't understand it myself...I guess posting something "philosophical" after sleepless night - is not best idea after all...
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interesting thread
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its lantis. 24 hour inisulin. this guy maxtiter says that humalog wont do shit and that lantis is the only one to provide results. he also doesnt think that its necessary to avoid fat intake while slin is active.
to put it shortly the guy is dumb
He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?
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He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?
What's up with you putting on a seminar June 6th?
Is it still on?
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There is distinctive difference between abusing something and having unfortunate accident...
Considering that I competed in 110 shows (72 IFBB pro + 38 Amateur) - don't you think I had "plenty of chances" to have little accidents...but had only TWO - both when someone else was "helping me" administer certain medication (yes - I chose not to say drugs - as IT IS MEDICATION after all...
Now, some people take chances in their lives - believing in themselves...having NO FEAR..going after their (sometimes numerous or multiple) ultimate goals...wherever those goals might take them...And some, IN FEAR OF FAILING, don't even EVER attempt to try anything?!!?? (and i've met so many of those - it is NOT even funny. And some even wear T-shirts "FAIL-PROOF" or "FAILURE FREE" - their parents, senior citizens, paid for it...calling their acquaintances at best (in lack of any friends) from local PAY PHONES (as they can only dream about cell phones) loudly talking about their "fail-proof for life" accomplishments, bragging about absolutely PRISTINE "fail-free" record...
FEAR-FREE people recognize their obstacles and take them as "little something" on the road - along the way...they could go around, over and/or through them...and for "fearless" few every problem does have easy and almost instant SOLUTION - if everyone simply focuses on finding the "BEST solution HOW TO" rather than finding BEST excuse...WHY THEY DIDN'T - solve the problem, only FAIL-FREE people would do - justifying forfeit of some result or competition - due to hardly noticeable wind as fresh and very light breeze...they dramatically described as once in the lifetime super cyclonic storm they Baptisted in Weather Canal News as: first name General - Typhoon and last name Major Hurricane ...that ALMOST KILL THEM in their successful, above everything - heroic and borderline - inhuman effort to escape that "killer wind".
Knowing what we want and who we really are...is absolute must...and if GOALS that are set require WHATEVER DIFFICULTY= so be it...(like 23 year old Socialist-kid growing in small Village in Yugoslavia, without monetary help from his parents and WITHOUT their support to leave to US...with total of $428 in pocket, with SPIK NO ENGLEZE, except: love you, fu.k you, how do you do, nice shoes - you want to fuck? [in 7 different languages - as ultimately - in every language after clear compliment to the lady (shoes...) it is perfectly OK to ASK for whatever else...with big smile and pretending that you have no idea what you just said...which worked about 97% of the time - if you really want to know...]
So, Van Build-that-ass - you've heard about "live/die by the sword" kind of guys (like that Moron that almost killed himself 100 times - experimenting something that he eventually "mastered it" and later brought into the IFBB and sports in general...to share his findings and teach hundreds, and those hundreds to later tech thousands around the world...yet still somehow alive and kicking) - or you know only "your kind" "live/die with the fork" type who are looking for what?
Excuses WHY NOT (none of the "forklifters" are crazy enough to try...something that could make them - exactly what they dream about the most, thus - spending LIFE by being all day on bodybuilding boards, reading magazines...etc...but just like that fox that didn't really, necessarily - want those green grapes...which happened to be - out of reach...you guys don't want to be PRO BODIBUILDERS ?
Who had better chances becoming a pro?
Me, growing up in Yugoslavia - with hardly any money - thousands of miles away from "bodybuilding center of the world" - State of California...or maybe...YOU...and others like YOU...that would certainly stop even thinking of having some super sexy figure babe - after careful consideration that "pubic hair" indeed could be the obstacle you'll never be able to overcome?!
(Just ask Nasser "the Gigolo" ;D about...and don't worry "gentleman never tells" is not exactly his motto...And easy to realize reasons to be first to tell the story, as well as his - choices of topics :
(1): need to express "duration" of his attempt - to talk about what was suppose to be unforgettable sexual experience to "never got a second chance with any women I've attempted to have sex with" BEFORE other side of the story could be heard.
(2): stupidity of even mentioning "naming" with pride !? of Nasser's most valuable asset - (he uses to "think" with - much more often than his head ) - as cutie could not be used for anything else - not realizing, or thinking for a second, to ask anyone what could possibly be good or great about hearing "little cutie"
Wow. This rant is all over the place but I think I know what you're getting at. :o :D
I'm all for doing whatever is necessary to reach your goals, it's a fucking romantic idea. I'm not one of those guys who criticizes bodybuilders for taking certain risks, I'm not on any thread saying someone is a moron because he wants to be a bodybuilder instead of putting all his time into building his finances and building a stable safe future. If you deem bodybuilding worthwhile all the power to you. All I'm saying is that pro bodybuilders take chances with their health and abuse drugs many times. But don't come here saying there's no abuse at the top when you admit to almost killing yourself 100 times with drugs. You have recommended drugs to bodybuilders for which there is no human data, such as IGF-1 and others.
Remember this e-mail to Patrick Arnold?
In a February 2000 e-mail exchange with Arnold, Sarcev expressed interest in designer supplements and diuretics for an imminent competition.
"Let me know where to send money, gold or kidneys," Sarcev replied after Arnold quoted him a price of 100 dollars a gram for "miracle stuff" called Norbolethone.
"I can over night it." Sarcev offered himself as "a good guinea pig" because he had "tried everything" and added he worked "with many other monkeys (that would like to become gorillas)."
No drug abuse? Really?
I have no moral problem with drug experimentation, it's how you dress it up as something else.
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He was talking up two different long acting insulins, levemir and lantus. Hyping the levemir more than the lantus.
Yeah I mentioned the same before, I haven't been impressed by his info. Though for growth simply increasing total insulin levels may not be a stupid idea IMO (instead of the window of opportunity thing).
Exogenous INSULIN is UNPREDICTABLE - and could not be controlled (at least precisely, timely and adequately) IF we don't know the properties...onset, peaks and duration...especially IF duration is 24 hours rather than 4 (as it is the case with HUMALOG)
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He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?
I haven't looked at the data but saw where he claimed Levemir will not affect blood glucose or endogenous insulin release. He thinks it's safe to use at quite high dosages without chance of severe hypoglycemic reactions.
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Wow. This rant is all over the place but I think I know what you're getting at. :o :D
I'm all for doing whatever is necessary to reach your goals, it's a fucking romantic idea. I'm not one of those guys who criticizes bodybuilders for taking certain risks, I'm not on any thread saying someone is a moron because he wants to be a bodybuilder instead of putting all his time into building his finances and building a stable safe future. If you deem bodybuilding worthwhile all the power to you. All I'm saying is that pro bodybuilders take chances with their health and abuse drugs many times. But don't come here saying there's no abuse at the top when you admit to almost killing yourself 100 times with drugs. You have recommended drugs to bodybuilders for which there is no human data, such as IGF-1 and others.
Remember this e-mail to Patrick Arnold?
No drug abuse? Really?
I have no moral problem with drug experimentation, it's how you dress it up as something else.
I have more important things to do today...so can't entertain the idea to please "that ass" just because it's that time of the month - and estrogen is just poring for some reason...
But:
I am saying that PRO bodybuilders are in general CONSIDERABLY more educated and careful with their "doping"...and while amounts taken would NOT be considered reasonable in medical community - hardly ANYONE truly abuses their bodies using GH15 - imaginary ridiculous amounts - NO Olympia competitor have EVER used...
As you live here on board (who said I said he said you have no life?) it seems to me you would possibly give some rats ass or ass in general TO BE PRO or at least to LOOK LIKE ONE...but you would really want to f.ck yet don't really want to stick in (or like some - hmmm El Somebody - can't last enough to ...) - yet you'll probably also feel the need to prove your manhood by mentioning your disastrous shortcoming - as the best xyz in the history of the human kind...trying to "touch" every subject of your embarrassment - in exactly the opposite way...just in case truth comes out before you have a chance to use your wildest imagination..)
I never admitted I almost killed myself 100 times...I said I had two little accidents out of 100's of times I used anything of that nature..
And - I never recommended IGF to anyone...So please - find it where I supposedly did...
OK, got to go...
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I haven't looked at the data but saw where he claimed Levemir will not affect blood glucose or endogenous insulin release. He thinks it's safe to use at quite high dosages without chance of severe hypoglycemic reactions.
AND THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "MORON IN ACTION" Bild that ass...
What do you know about INSULIN and injecting HIGH DOSAGE OF LONG ACTING exogenous insulin - that is SAFE?!?!? ::)
It is equivalent to 'bulletproof' armor that supposedly one can take off - as "levemir" bullets just wouldn't have a chance of severe damage to the body? ::)
STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES...OR WHAT STUPID CLAIMS HERE ON GETBIG and acts "oh so innocent"
You should be in jail together with that Moron who claims that ANY long acting insulin taken exogenous way WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE HYPOGLYCEMIA...in subject that is using...
I would like to see you and that guy...take it in front of me - without any fear - and see what happens...
But, I have a feeling that nobody said that yet - your built ass is trying to be smartass - and that is DANGEROUS SMARTASS!
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I have more important things to do today...so can't entertain the idea to please "that ass" just because it's that time of the month - and estrogen is just poring for some reason...
But:
I am saying that PRO bodybuilders are in general CONSIDERABLY more educated and careful with their "doping"...and while amounts taken would NOT be considered reasonable in medical community - hardly ANYONE truly abuses their bodies using GH15 - imaginary ridiculous amounts - NO Olympia competitor have EVER used...
As you live here on board (who said I said he said you have no life?) it seems to me you would possibly give some rats ass or ass in general TO BE PRO or at least to LOOK LIKE ONE...but you would really want to f.ck yet don't really want to stick in (or like some - hmmm El Somebody - can't last enough to ...) - yet you'll probably also feel the need to prove your manhood by mentioning your disastrous shortcoming - as the best xyz in the history of the human kind...trying to "touch" every subject of your embarrassment - in exactly the opposite way...just in case truth comes out before you have a chance to use your wildest imagination..)
I never admitted I almost killed myself 100 times...I said I had two little accidents out of 100's of times I used anything of that nature..
And - I never recommended IGF to anyone...So please - find it where I supposedly did...
OK, got to go...
I don't understand most of your post but as far as the IGF-1 here's what Harley Breite says is an e-mail from you to Craig Richardson:
Milos then advised Craig to increase his off-season supplement program to 16 weeks as well as including IGF twice a day.
Craig was very appreciative for all of Milos advice and Milos never charged him a fee. Craig took Milos advice re the Humalog but shortly thereafter gave it up. Craig had concerns that this was too much for his body and that it could have serious long-term effects. Craig did not increase his supplement program to 16 weeks due to similar concerns.
"IGF Long R3- either 50 mcg once a day or twice a day (if you have enough). First shot should be at least two hours after GH...and if you can do two shots a day- second shot should be one hour BEFORE training (in the afternoon) than AFTER training you do HUMALOG."
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AND THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "MORON IN ACTION" Bild that ass...
What do you know about INSULIN and injecting HIGH DOSAGE OF LONG ACTING exogenous insulin - that is SAFE?!?!? ::)
It is equivalent to 'bulletproof' armor that supposedly one can take off - as "levemir" bullets just wouldn't have a chance of severe damage to the body? ::)
STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES...OR WHAT STUPID CLAIMS HERE ON GETBIG and acts "oh so innocent"
You should be in jail together with that Moron who claims that ANY long acting insulin taken exogenous way WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE HYPOGLYCEMIA...in subject that is using...
I would like to see you and that guy...take it in front of me - without any fear - and see what happens...
But, I have a feeling that nobody said that yet - your built ass is trying to be smartass - and that is DANGEROUS SMARTASS!
I did NOT say it was a good idea, learn to read! I said this is what that rxmuscle mod claimed. I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO HIS CLAIM TO VERIFY IT - I said this clearly. And I also said I haven't been impressed with his info in general.
The mods name is maxititer and this is what I thought of him and still do:
I have seen a lot of professed scientists post on PED topics on bb forums that make me (and I'm no scientist) shake my head. An example is "Gavin Kane". A guy who posts on some forums under the name "maxititer" is another.
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I don't understand most of your post but as far as the IGF-1 here's what Harley Breite says is an e-mail from you to Craig Richardson:
And you seem to have everyone's cycles and connections like no other?
Interesting...yet - you are...not interested to compete...?
Not using anything?
What?
Now - as you DID to my shocking surprise have SOMETHING where I supposedly gave my advice about IGF...I did suggest to few guys how would I recommend them to take it IF they insist - they want to use it...but i told everyone that I am not proponent of IGF - especially as it is potentially carcinogenic and right there alone exceeds any acceptable level of risks ...
You seem to know Patric - he could possibly confirm what I told him when he asked me about it...
But, just to make one thing clear - I am to this day getting "Milos cycles" programs and diets...etc - that are circulating around - that have nothing I ever said....in it...
So, be careful and YES - post it here and alarm me (anyone) so I cold answer and tell the truth...rather than let some guys use "my recomendations" I would not suggest to my worst enemy...
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I did NOT say it was a good idea, learn to read! I said this is what that rxmuscle mod claimed. I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO HIS CLAIM TO VERIFY IT - I said this clearly. And I also said I haven't been impressed with his info in general.
The mods name is maxititer and this is what I thought of him and still do:
YOU SHOULD SAY IT IS VERY BAD IDEA THE SAME SECOND YOU SAW IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT HIGH DOSAGE OF EXOGENOUS LONG ACTING INSULIN IS SAFE AND WILL NOT CAUSE HYPERGLUCEMIA...
RIGHT THERE YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TITLE OF A MORON...Dangerous moron who pretends he knows something when in really knows very minimal about subject that is 100 times more dangerous than ANY ABUSE of steroids you are so concerned about.
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And you seem to have everyone's cycles and connections like no other?
Interesting...yet - you are...not interested to compete...?
Not using anything?
What?
Now - as you DID to my shocking surprise have SOMETHING where I supposedly gave my advice about IGF...I did suggest to few guys how would I recommend them to take it IF they insist - they want to use it...but i told everyone that I am not proponent of IGF - especially as it is potentially carcinogenic and right there alone exceeds any acceptable level of risks ...
You seem to know Patric - he could possibly confirm what I told him when he asked me about it...
But, just to make one thing clear - I am to this day getting "Milos cycles" programs and diets...etc - that are circulating around - that have nothing I ever said....in it...
So, be careful and YES - post it here and alarm me (anyone) so I cold answer and tell the truth...rather than let some guys use "my recomendations" I would not suggest to my worst enemy...
It was posted on this board by Craig's training partner. I saw it and remembered it, simple as. It was on public display here. Same with the Patrick Arnold e-mail, it was in the news years back in connection to the BALCO case. I don't know Patrick.
I do remember you being against IGF-1 too. I have excellent memory.:D
Same thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272552.msg3833307#msg3833307
OK, thanks. I just remember Milos saying he would never use it due to cancer risk.
So thanks for clarifying. :)
And I would love to compete but I don't have what it takes to look even semi-respectable. I'm just a fan at this point. :)
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This may be what Milos recommends or thinks is OK to recommend publicly but he knows damn well most of his guys don't do it. Same with the GH doses of 2-6iu or none at all. Milos even claimed this is in line with what Ronnie and Jay do/did.
None in the O top 10 were doing more??
Is that what Milos said on the show?
Do you believe this Coach?
TOP GUYS ARE TAKING 750mg tops and several Olympia competitors - top 10 finishers never went over 500mg/week/ while truth is some go with 1000 mg and I heard ONE so far - taking 1500mg - but he doesn't take much else...
I would again ask you guys WHAT WOLD BE A PURPOSE FOR ME TO LIE?
I will organize that seminar if CHAOS wants on June 6th...no problem...and i could show you (maybe even give to copy? ;)) cycles of at least 10 top olympia competitors...and their diet...contest prep secrets...etc...etc
It is interesting to me there is "resistance" and so many of you guys have "something" against me or my ways of doing things - and I absolutely have no problem with that.
I like to consider everyone's opinion and I would admit - few times actually I learned some things even from very beginners - who just had views in subject - that I never even considered...
So, I will tell you right away - I am as far away from being a genius as Bob is from his nose ( ;D...and...if we consider that nose is attached - I am making myself a genius with this statement - which is quite fair...but I meant to say - as far away from Bob's tip of the nose - which is by now miles long and away from his face...due to constant "not so truthful facts that are not really facts anyway...and on top of that he is not telling the truth even when he is telling the truth - somehow...anyway...
have a nice day
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YOU SHOULD SAY IT IS VERY BAD IDEA THE SAME SECOND YOU SAW IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT HIGH DOSAGE OF EXOGENOUS LONG ACTING INSULIN IS SAFE AND WILL NOT CAUSE HYPERGLUCEMIA...
RIGHT THERE YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TITLE OF A MORON...Dangerous moron who pretends he knows something when in really knows very minimal about subject that is 100 times more dangerous than ANY ABUSE of steroids you are so concerned about.
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Why is it my responsibility what someone claims? Why didn't you call Aaron and Carl morons when you were on their show? They're the ones who brought it up. Next time you talk to Palumbo please ask him to remove the guy from mod position at his board, the guy apparently a danger to the community (many are doing levemir now due to him).
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It was posted on this board by Craig's training partner. I saw it and remembered it, simple as. It was on public display here. Same with the Patrick Arnold e-mail, it was in the news years back in connection to the BALCO case. I don't know Patrick.
I do remember you being against IGF-1 too. I have excellent memory.:D
Same thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272552.msg3833307#msg3833307
So thanks for clarifying. :)
And I would love to compete but I don't have what it takes to look even semi-respectable. I'm just a fan at this point. :)
Van...big ass - or whatever your name is - I had little problem before with King of all camels - and than we became great friends - to the point he even tries to kiss me every time he sees me.
I told him that Barb is getting jealous (and so was Bob...the puppet) and besides - kissing in public is "kind of" gay - and as I absolutely claim that while my boyfriend might be a "flaming" gay - I certainly am NOT...unless Nasser would change his mind...which actually happens hourly...but - where was I?
Yes, suppose o be working and have every excuse in a book to spend another minute (or 300) here on board rather than do taxes...article...or clean my room...(so much for "solution" fearless talk...)
Anyway...I also had Gareth initially against me....and than we became training partners (GARETH - I AM STARTING MONDAY - want to join? Wan'a joint?)
So vanderful Ass (this gay talk has no influence on me whatso-ever... Hmm, what are you wearing...bobby...Bobby the puppet...i know you cant miss any of my posts if your life depends on it...so - give me a jingle....You know - your usual "jing-o-balls" (is - spelling?)..
yes Ass Van man - don't take my incoherent writing as a probable sign of drug abuse - it is not...I am just WASTING TIME of everyone reading so they would have a reason to call me names - after all...
And finally - what should be the only sentence here - I wold offer to HELP YOU FAR EXCEED ANY OF YOUR EXPECTATIONS by directing you and possibly even training with you IF you come to my gym...and YES - with very best intentions and I could care less for my fee either...Just having a pleasure of APPLYING my theories on someone who is skeptical and non-believer - and completely changing his opinion on NUMEROUS SUBJECTS he believes he knows 100% for sure to be the very best out there...(conventional theories) and opening your eyes to something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, SAFER, BETTER, SEXIER...(no you used "romantic"...)...oh - happy mothers day.
Coming?
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Why is it my responsibility what someone claims? Why didn't you call Aaron and Carl morons when you were on their show? They're the ones who brought it up. Next time you talk to Palumbo please ask him to remove the guy from mod position at his board, the guy apparently a danger to the community (many are doing levemir now due to him).
I think I did call someone Moron at the show...but it was too long ago (what - last week?) and show was to long...so whoever I missed calling a Moron and deserves to be called - please forgive me and make sure you remind me to do it next time...
And I respect Dave too much to say publicly that whoever (on his board) makes claims in line of:
high dosage of exogenous long acting insulin would be perfectly safe and would NOT cause hypoglycemic episodes
SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED and held responsible for premeditated murder - in line of that collective suicide - for example...
So, thank God there are boards like this one where I...could disrespect Dave to publicly say ABOVE MENTIONED and hope he would not be informed in next 2 minutes - so i could shut my computer and hide in a whole and hope he never finds me - or he'll take all my carbs from me and put me on sub 1000 calorie diet - he should also be arrested for...OOOps...I better go now...
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Hmm, funny that even with all this experimentation and knowledge you still failed to surpass any of the old bodybuilders like Arnold, Franco Columbu etc.
Maybe you should have gone back to the basics lol. ;D
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Milos, i think the problem that most of these guys have is that they can take 1,000 mg plus of test, along with god knows what other aas and they still look like shit, so its hard for them to believe that someone they admire ( top 10 mr olympia competitor ) can take less drugs than they do but look a million times better.
I dont know where this idea that more drugs equal a better physique came from, because at some point there is dimishing returns, but i think its just a way for these guys to justify there pathetic gains.
just my 2 shredded cents.
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Bodybuilding has always been a partly underground activity re the top men. The risky things various guys have done are downright amazing. Science has abandoned most of the drug testing and experiments with humans. and I wonder if Milos and others are advancing bodybuilding with their experiments and protocols? I have no idea at all about what the professionals are doing and what a pity that so much information is anecdotal. I mean, who do you listen to and how do you assess if the information is valid and valuable? Seems to me this sport has become more dangerous than many believe.
Milos argues that anabolic steroids are safe and a benefit to many people and needed by athletes. Wow, that is quite a statement. He and others believe they need these medications so get prescriptions for them. The reason the drugs became illegal was partly because doctors had no right prescribing them for healthy individuals. Now we are hearing arguments that these banned substances are not really dangerous and are actually beneficial if used properly. I can't say I buy that. If this is what many professionals believe then the sport is doomed because scientists and medical professionals will not accept and endorse the use of drugs to enhance body composition. I have great concerns with any playing around with hormones like insulin. This is not a hormone that should be experimented with. However, what the heck do I know? I think Milos can be given credit for being able to read text books and other literature on physiology. I wonder, though, if he is qualified to actually recommend various drug protocols? That surely should be the province of properly qualified and educated professionals. I worry about the exeriments that are occurring with individuals in some gyms around the world. That is hardly solid science and very little confidence can be placed in the recommendations and findings.
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Bodybuilding has always been a partly underground activity re the top men. The risky things various guys have done are downright amazing. Science has abandoned most of the drug testing and experiments with humans. and I wonder if Milos and others are advancing bodybuilding with their experiments and protocols? I have no idea at all about what the professionals are doing and what a pity that so much information is anecdotal. I mean, who do you listen to and how do you assess if the information is valid and valuable? Seems to me this sport has become more dangerous than many believe.
Milos argues that anabolic steroids are safe and a benefit to many people and needed by athletes. Wow, that is quite a statement. He and others believe they need these medications so get prescriptions for them. The reason the drugs became illegal was partly because doctors had no right prescribing them for healthy individuals. Now we are hearing arguments that these banned substances are not really dangerous and are actually beneficial if used properly. I can't say I buy that. If this is what many professionals believe then the sport is doomed because scientists and medical professionals will not accept and endorse the use of drugs to enhance body composition. I have great concerns with any playing around with hormones like insulin. This is not a hormone that should be experimented with. However, what the heck do I know? I think Milos can be given credit for being able to read text books and other literature on physiology. I wonder, though, if he is qualified to actually recommend various drug protocols? That surely should be the province of properly qualified and educated professionals. I worry about the exeriments that are occurring with individuals in some gyms around the world. That is hardly solid science and very little confidence can be placed in the recommendations and findings.
Weren't you just singing his praises in the Chick-bashing thread?
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Bodybuilding has always been a partly underground activity re the top men. The risky things various guys have done are downright amazing. Science has abandoned most of the drug testing and experiments with humans. and I wonder if Milos and others are advancing bodybuilding with their experiments and protocols? I have no idea at all about what the professionals are doing and what a pity that so much information is anecdotal. I mean, who do you listen to and how do you assess if the information is valid and valuable? Seems to me this sport has become more dangerous than many believe.
Milos argues that anabolic steroids are safe and a benefit to many people and needed by athletes. Wow, that is quite a statement. He and others believe they need these medications so get prescriptions for them. The reason the drugs became illegal was partly because doctors had no right prescribing them for healthy individuals. Now we are hearing arguments that these banned substances are not really dangerous and are actually beneficial if used properly. I can't say I buy that. If this is what many professionals believe then the sport is doomed because scientists and medical professionals will not accept and endorse the use of drugs to enhance body composition. I have great concerns with any playing around with hormones like insulin. This is not a hormone that should be experimented with. However, what the heck do I know? I think Milos can be given credit for being able to read text books and other literature on physiology. I wonder, though, if he is qualified to actually recommend various drug protocols? That surely should be the province of properly qualified and educated professionals. I worry about the exeriments that are occurring with individuals in some gyms around the world. That is hardly solid science and very little confidence can be placed in the recommendations and findings.
Here are a few questions... Who is more qualified than Milos? If not he, then who? What makes one a qualified professional? What "qualified professional" would be willing to recommend ANY KIND of drug protocol these days?
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When we are 'playing' around with 'medications' we have to take the consequences. Thus, we should be informed about various drugs, side effects, etc., before commencing any usage. I definitely wouldn't go by what someone says just because they are well read and have lots of information from experimenting. Our bodies are much too precious to risk making any mistakes, as Milos admits to having done.
You see, if what he says is true about professional bodybuilders needing these drugs then I want no part of that professional division. All that chemistry might deliver more gains but at what cost? I haven't seen too many professionals without side effects. This means that the advice they are getting is flawed or they didn't do what they were told. I accept that others are advising the bodybuilders and not only Milos. In any case, it is lunacy to ingest all those medications just to win a title and a trophy. It plainly is not worth the risk, let alone cost. I shake my head when I think of what those professionals have done to their bodies just to compete. Most do not win anything and that is really sad. While I admire large muscles that is qualified by what one has to do to acquire that size. Just because some of those drugs work doesn't mean we should be using them. We need far more knowledge than is available before we can be so cavalier about medications.
I respect Milos's high intelligence and integrity. However, it just seems like his intelligence also rationalizes what he is doing. I am also a gym owner and never recommend medications to bodybuilders. I wouldn't be so foolish as to recommend any medications that are not endorsed by the medical community. Bodybuilding has a bad enough name without our best minds contributing to the shame.
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How did Milos get prescriptions for all the drugs he uses?
shows how corrupt the world is, then again, he probably needs the test now since his natural test production is probably the same as a 2 year old girl.
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YOU SHOULD SAY IT IS VERY BAD IDEA THE SAME SECOND YOU SAW IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT HIGH DOSAGE OF EXOGENOUS LONG ACTING INSULIN IS SAFE AND WILL NOT CAUSE HYPERGLUCEMIA...
RIGHT THERE YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TITLE OF A MORON...Dangerous moron who pretends he knows something when in really knows very minimal about subject that is 100 times more dangerous than ANY ABUSE of steroids you are so concerned about.
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who are you to call van a moron? van is being nice to you because your a ""celebrity" in bodybuilding world.
i have read yoru writings and thoughts and bodybuilding drugs, training, eating....and guess what, your not a genius yourself.
to be quite honest milos you are a joke, and most ifbb professionals make jokes about you once they come to you for advise. did you see videos of silvio and dj on flexonline makign fun of you and laughing about how you make people throw up??
how come every body that comes to "work with you" leaves and leaves behind your methods?
if anyone is a moron its you. now please go back to pretending that you in an expert....in any feild... :P
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who are you to call van a moron? van is being nice to you because your a ""celebrity" in bodybuilding world.
i have read yoru writings and thoughts and bodybuilding drugs, training, eating....and guess what, your not a genius yourself.
to be quite honest milos you are a joke, and most ifbb professionals make jokes about you once they come to you for advise. did you see videos of silvio and dj on flexonline makign fun of you and laughing about how you make people throw up??
how come every body that comes to "work with you" leaves and leaves behind your methods?
if anyone is a moron its you. now please go back to pretending that you in an expert....in any feild... :P
:o candi whats happened to you ?
you argued with me for months saying milos was correct in his hyperpump training.
do you now agree with me ?
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You have to smile at the flotsam on Getbig and in countless gyms around the world. Most start out rather modestly and after a couple of years reach intermediate size and strength. Many abandon bodybuilding but a few plod on. When results stall guys start to wonder if they need gear to get big. Some try steroids and don't get big at all. That must be a letdown. These lads swear it now must be genetics!
You can imagine the same sort of thing happening to the guys who get big. How then to get even bigger they wonder? So they try this and that and when nothing works they consult experts. Now, if those experts have the answer well and good. However, if the gains don't appear they abandon that guru and his ideas and methods. The one thing bodybuilders know is if they are growing. So anything that works gets absorbed and accepted and what doesn't work is rejected and abandoned.
It is no surprise that even true experts are not going to get 100% results with those who come for instruction, advices, and training.
The interesting thing about bodybuilding is that there is no consensus about training methods or just about anything else. Because of the confusion what results is that most methods seem to have the same status. All methods that work have believers and endorsers. Somehow even the experts do not agree about training methods. Probably they disagree more than the rank and file muscleheads. Thus, we find them bashing and laughing at each other.
I don't agree with Milos' training protocols, etc., but I am sure he has disciples who swear it is the best method ever. How are we going to decide which method is superior in such an atmosphere? Clearly, we cannot.
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:o candi whats happened to you ?
you argued with me for months saying milos was correct in his hyperpump training.
do you now agree with me ?
no, i had argued with you about volume. you were saying low volume high intensity was best, i was saying high volume high intensity was best.
in truth, "best" is whatever you havent been doin lately, whenever progress has stopped.
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You have to smile at the flotsam on Getbig and in countless gyms around the world. Most start out rather modestly and after a couple of years reach intermediate size and strength. Many abandon bodybuilding but a few plod on. When results stall guys start to wonder if they need gear to get big. Some try steroids and don't get big at all. That must be a letdown. These lads swear it now must be genetics!
You can imagine the same sort of thing happening to the guys who get big. How then to get even bigger they wonder? So they try this and that and when nothing works they consult experts. Now, if those experts have the answer well and good. However, if the gains don't appear they abandon that guru and his ideas and methods. The one thing bodybuilders know is if they are growing. So anything that works gets absorbed and accepted and what doesn't work is rejected and abandoned.
It is no surprise that even true experts are not going to get 100% results with those who come for instruction, advices, and training.
The interesting thing about bodybuilding is that there is no consensus about training methods or just about anything else. Because of the confusion what results is that most methods seem to have the same status. All methods that work have believers and endorsers. Somehow even the experts do not agree about training methods. Probably they disagree more than the rank and file muscleheads. Thus, we find them bashing and laughing at each other.
I don't agree with Milos' training protocols, etc., but I am sure he has disciples who swear it is the best method ever. How are we going to decide which method is superior in such an atmosphere? Clearly, we cannot.
I'll bet your long-winded bullshit has you 86ed from every pub in Oz. That's why you're here, isn't it?
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no, i had argued with you about volume. you were saying low volume high intensity was best, i was saying high volume high intensity was best.
in truth, "best" is whatever you havent been doin lately, whenever progress has stopped.
high volume high intensity on gear and peptides etc maybe ;)
studies still show there is a threshold limit on the amount of intensity and volume where too much reduces gains. (again this is on naturals) the reason i apply it to gear takers too is mentzer/yates/ronnie/dugdale/james/jackson etc who all use a form of hit.
so IMO something is either optimal or suboptimal.
there has to be a unified model for hypertrophy - we just have to find it.
we are prety close though, frequency, intensity %rm, protein, volume etc
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who are you to call van a moron? van is being nice to you because your a ""celebrity" in bodybuilding world.
i have read yoru writings and thoughts and bodybuilding drugs, training, eating....and guess what, your not a genius yourself.
to be quite honest milos you are a joke, and most ifbb professionals make jokes about you once they come to you for advise. did you see videos of silvio and dj on flexonline makign fun of you and laughing about how you make people throw up??
how come every body that comes to "work with you" leaves and leaves behind your methods?
if anyone is a moron its you. now please go back to pretending that you in an expert....in any feild... :P
LMAO, Milos would pwn you 10 ways from Sunday any day of the week.
hahahahhaaaa ;D
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You have to smile at the flotsam on Getbig and in countless gyms around the world. Most start out rather modestly and after a couple of years reach intermediate size and strength. Many abandon bodybuilding but a few plod on. When results stall guys start to wonder if they need gear to get big. Some try steroids and don't get big at all.
How would you even know of their steroid usage, Vince Basile?
You better have a good explanation for this or otherwise its just pure speculation on your part.
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Bodybuilding has always been a partly underground activity re the top men. The risky things various guys have done are downright amazing. Science has abandoned most of the drug testing and experiments with humans. and I wonder if Milos and others are advancing bodybuilding with their experiments and protocols? I have no idea at all about what the professionals are doing and what a pity that so much information is anecdotal. I mean, who do you listen to and how do you assess if the information is valid and valuable? Seems to me this sport has become more dangerous than many believe.
Milos argues that anabolic steroids are safe and a benefit to many people and needed by athletes. Wow, that is quite a statement. He and others believe they need these medications so get prescriptions for them. The reason the drugs became illegal was partly because doctors had no right prescribing them for healthy individuals. Now we are hearing arguments that these banned substances are not really dangerous and are actually beneficial if used properly. I can't say I buy that. If this is what many professionals believe then the sport is doomed because scientists and medical professionals will not accept and endorse the use of drugs to enhance body composition. I have great concerns with any playing around with hormones like insulin. This is not a hormone that should be experimented with. However, what the heck do I know? I think Milos can be given credit for being able to read text books and other literature on physiology. I wonder, though, if he is qualified to actually recommend various drug protocols? That surely should be the province of properly qualified and educated professionals. I worry about the exeriments that are occurring with individuals in some gyms around the world. That is hardly solid science and very little confidence can be placed in the recommendations and findings.
I have no idea at all about what the professionals are doing and what a pity that so much information is anecdotal.
And because I do have very good idea what the professionals are doing....+ what I did in 20+ years - I am sharing my experiences with ALL OF YOU - with crystal clear realization that many would crucify me instead of appreciating my candidness and priceless information - I am giving - FOR FREE...
So, here on this board when I hear: Fuck you Milos, you fucking liar, you suck...your advice is worth as much as your IFBB pro card...or whatever....I know it means: Fucking Milos knows his stuff and charges too much IFBB pros for his services - so I would just "trick him" into giving as much info by attacking him - as he doesn't respond on "compliments" yet "criticism" always works...
Just to "break it to you" - I would answer ANY QUESTION to anyone - if they come to my seminar...but here on board is simply impossible - as I have JOBS to do...and therefore I could not possibly be engaged in many discussions and threads...But, hopefully some would realize - I need "getbig abuse" as I need hearth attack - yet I still expose myself here to my "true fans"...for their satisfaction...
I mean, who do you listen to and how do you assess if the information is valid and valuable?
Thus - you are spending hours here on board - reading everything available?
Milos argues that anabolic steroids are safe and a benefit to many people and needed by athletes. Wow, that is quite a statement. He and others believe they need these medications so get prescriptions for them. The reason the drugs became illegal was partly because doctors had no right prescribing them for healthy individuals.
Listen to the radio show and pay attention...YES, indeed ANABOLIC STEROIDS ARE SAFE...if used properly.
WATER is deadly if used incorrectly - for a love of God...
But, when you read ANABOLIC - you should translate - "CONSTRUCTIVE METABOLISM"...HHHHAAAALLLLOOOOOOOOO O anyone there? ::)
How is something labeled CONSTRUCTIVE somehow believed or feared to be actually DESTRUCTIVE?
You know - it is NOT AGAINST THE LAW to use your own head and THINK - every ones in a while...and come up with - WOW - logical answers - obvious to everyone with slightest little "nano-brain"...
...scientists and medical professionals will not accept and endorse the use of drugs to enhance body composition.
...yet they will experiment and confirm that ANABOLIC MEDS indeed promote ANABOLISM and as such - enhance body composition - without a shadow of the doubt...
Hmmm, no monetary benefits - no endorsements - doesn't apply here?
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Just so you know Milos ...there are people around here who appreciate the info you are willingly putting out 4 free I might add
AGAIN...THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY GOOD IN BB TERMS
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Iused to watch this routine before workouts to get fired up ...over and over again
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hey milos im going to give away yoru advice and do it for free
test e 250mg mon-wed-fri
gh 4iu ed
humalog 20iu pre workout
t3 25mcg ed
BOOOOOOMMMM
now thats what you say in the open, so now i post what you say behind closed doors
test e 250mg ed
gh 10iu ed
humalog 20iu 3x times per day
t3 25mcg ed
now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass
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who are you to call van a moron? van is being nice to you because your a ""celebrity" in bodybuilding world.
i have read yoru writings and thoughts and bodybuilding drugs, training, eating....and guess what, your not a genius yourself.
to be quite honest milos you are a joke, and most ifbb professionals make jokes about you once they come to you for advise. did you see videos of silvio and dj on flexonline makign fun of you and laughing about how you make people throw up??
how come every body that comes to "work with you" leaves and leaves behind your methods?
if anyone is a moron its you. now please go back to pretending that you in an expert....in any feild... :P
I am someone who realizes that MORON posting here on this board, giving MORONIC and deadly advice - should be called MORON - as that usually gets attention...don't you think?
So, for every IDIOT who comes here and posts under gh, t-bomb...etc..."stage name" like some stripper hiding true identity - calling out people - yet hiding inside cyber protection - I have special names...
Now, to be quite honest to you t-boobz - I didn't see any videos about dj or silvio...making fun of....what?
Oh, I make people throw up?
Hmmmm, indeed I do that quite often T-bimbo...you know why?
I heard that one must give ALL OUT EFFORT to stimulate MAXIMAL CHANGE - producing greatest results...and in training I manage somehow to be "joke of the day" using some pink dumbbells (that for sure would be color coordinated with your outfit at the moment) - yet make people like silvio and dj THROW UP during the training...
Oh well, no time to check it out - but I would appreciate if you cold post the link...After all I would like to see some of my athletes - I used to train...when I did have a time...and somehow both mentioned were - very interested in what I had to say at some point of their career...I understand - they are laughing at - fools that train with me and throw up...could easily train differently and avoid ever puking...or improving... ;)
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hey milos im going to give away yoru advice and do it for free
test e 250mg mon-wed-fri
gh 4iu ed
humalog 20iu pre workout
t3 25mcg ed
BOOOOOOMMMM
now thats what you say in the open, so now i post what you say behind closed doors
test e 250mg ed
gh 10iu ed
humalog 20iu 3x times per day
t3 25mcg ed
now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass
:o
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I am someone who realizes that MORON posting here on this board, giving MORONIC and deadly advice - should be called MORON - as that usually gets attention...don't you think?
So, for every IDIOT who comes here and posts under gh, t-bomb...etc..."stage name" like some stripper hiding true identity - calling out people - yet hiding inside cyber protection - I have special names...
Now, to be quite honest to you t-boobz - I didn't see any videos about dj or silvio...making fun of....what?
Oh, I make people throw up?
Hmmmm, indeed I do that quite often T-bimbo...you know why?
I heard that one must give ALL OUT EFFORT to stimulate MAXIMAL CHANGE - producing greatest results...and in training I manage somehow to be "joke of the day" using some pink dumbbells (that for sure would be color coordinated with your outfit at the moment) - yet make people like silvio and dj THROW UP during the training...
Oh well, no time to check it out - but I would appreciate if you cold post the link...After all I would like to see some of my athletes - I used to train...when I did have a time...and somehow both mentioned were - very interested in what I had to say at some point of their career...I understand - they are laughing at - fools that train with me and throw up...could easily train differently and avoid ever puking...or improving... ;)
lmao dude, your a fucking clown, not because they were training hard. your "giant sets" wouldnt make anybody throw up, not unless they felt sick beause of the pre workout slin. they were making fun of your dumbass for the massive carb loads that made them sick. its on flexonline a dj interview with silvio samuel. http://www.flexonline.com/videos/91 watch at 14:30.
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hey milos im going to give away yoru advice and do it for free
test e 250mg mon-wed-fri
gh 4iu ed
humalog 20iu pre workout
t3 25mcg ed
BOOOOOOMMMM
now thats what you say in the open, so now i post what you say behind closed doors
test e 250mg ed
gh 10iu ed
humalog 20iu 3x times per day
t3 25mcg ed
now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass
Dumbass
You need little spanking - so please - come see me in my gym - I am there everyday from 11 - 8...
Just mention the T-boobs at the front desk and I would come see you instantly...
It would be my personal pleasure seeing my cyber hero "big balled boob man"...
I can hardly wait to hear: "now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass" in person - facing me...
I will even have camera and microphone ready - to post it right here - for my getbig fans/friends/enemies...to see it...
But, somehow I think you would be lost for words...as REAL LIFE is quite different than CYBER...
I want to see you "my super hero" T-BOOBZ talking smack - when you face - "possible consequences of your irresponsible behavior and language"...
Want to make an appointment?
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Dumbass
You need little spanking - so please - come see me in my gym - I am there everyday from 11 - 8...
Just mention the T-boobs at the front desk and I would come see you instantly...
It would be my personal pleasure seeing my cyber hero "big balled boob man"...
I can hardly wait to hear: "now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass" in person - facing me...
I will even have camera and microphone ready - to post it right here - for my getbig fans/friends/enemies...to see it...
But, somehow I think you would be lost for words...as REAL LIFE is quite different than CYBER...
I want to see you "my super hero" T-BOOBZ talking smack - when you face - "possible consequences of your irresponsible behavior and language"...
Want to make an appointment?
if you want to make threats like that, come meet me. im not going to drive all the way to so cal to come call you a dumbass and then drive back. manteca, california. its about 6 hours north of you. ;)
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Lets see... who should we trust......
Milos Sarcev
Or....... this guy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You can't assess Bombz pyhsique in all that thick clothing
He could be carrying a lot of conditioned size with some freaky bodyparts
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All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone. HTH.
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All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone. HTH.
agreed
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lmao dude, your a fucking clown, not because they were training hard. your "giant sets" wouldnt make anybody throw up, not unless they felt sick beause of the pre workout slin. they were making fun of your dumbass for the massive carb loads that made them sick. its on flexonline a dj interview with silvio samuel. http://www.flexonline.com/videos/91 watch at 14:30.
Massive carb loads made them sick...yet they did repeatedly - FOR years...?
DJ has been very open in explaining how I over-carbed him couple of times - and I accepted his "blame" - even posted publicly that - "I screwed up"...to make a grown man feel better about his shortcomings...
Does anyone knows what CARB LOADING IS?
Can anyone actually ask WHY bodybuilders do carb load and what is the purpose?
While endurance athletes have their specific reasons to deplete and than super-compensate glycogen storage for their chosen sports - how about bodybuilders?
I said million times - there are so many "unbelievable" ::) expert-nutritionists in bodybuilding - that do absolute miracles with their competitors...
They "DIAL THEM IN" like a 1-900 number (with so much $ per minute - to add)...
They simply get guys (or girls) - "dry to the bone"...
WOW!?!?!
And when you look those competitors - they are border line emergency case waiting to happen, dehydrated to the point of life danger...and "juiced up" to the Jing-jing yet majorly under nourished and severely catabolic - following their suicidal contest diet - sometimes sub 1000 kcal /day !?!?!?
Yet, they show up on the contest day - DIALED IN...(1-900-LETMEDIE or 1-900-LUVZOMBIE.COM....)
If those poor guys do manage to finish the contest without emergency intervention of paramedics - next few days are still critical...for just bare survival...
Needless to say - guys "blow up" like a fish - often gaining MORE THAN 50 POUNDS in just couple of days...and sometimes more - with American hearth association and/or Guinness book of world records extreme interest...
Guy that was in shape for 24 hour period, in matter of few days become again "off-season" obese looking, hearth attack waiting to happen, respiratory machine grasping for air even walking...
Fun to be around - like only....hmmmm, somebody...- EL somebody could be...
You want to be spill-over proof, dry to the bone?
You need about 7 micrograms of brain to come up with the plan...
Deplete into the show and drop water + use necessary amount of diuretics...
WOW, brilliance of the muscle minds!
Never mind that you:
1) Destroyed so much quality muscle during dieting phase...That hard earned muscle mass you work so hard for during the off season, force feeding yourself and training like a maniac...to make necessary improvements...
2) Lower your caloric intake to dramatically low total amount of calories, devoid yourself of necessary and important essential nutrients - needed for general health and well being...
3) Due to strict regimen - becoming ZOMBIE in real sense of that word - worthless to any business, family, relationship - WORTHLESS in again true sense of that word...suffering, hungry, tired, irritable...STUPID ::)...
4) Sending your body in deep starvation mode - where your body must start catabolizing itself - due to lack of calories and differential in caloric intake/need...Loosing MUSCLE and not fat...as metabolic activity of muscle tissue far exceeds one of fat - and 'HIGHER THE DEFICIT' worse it gets...and bodybuilders are the VERY BEST EXAMPLE of that!
Simply, due to extreme muscle mass - bodybuilders do have much higher metabolic rate than average Joes...
Considering the metabolic activity of "extremely muscular physiques" going through rigorous training sessions DAILY - sometimes 2 cardio sessions + 2 training sessions, frequent meals, high protein...etc - TEE + TEF increases certainly support the need for MUCH HIGHER CALORIC INTAKE rather than SEVERELY REDUCED - which happens to be the case with many bodybuilding "gurus" advisers...
Poor bodybuilders would "kill" their metabolisms and as soon as contest is over - even once "normal" caloric intake would now represent by far too much calories for starved body - thus all extra calories would instantly be stored as body fat...EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT BODYBUILDERS WANT...
etc, etc...God, I must go to work...
Anyway - I want to point out ONE thing:
when you prepare some athlete for bodybuilding show - you should consider EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to create logical and most effective diet regimen, training program and contest preparation protocols - resulting in spectacular condition of the athlete...who would in process of dieting for that contest:
1) not just maintain but INCREASE muscle mass while getting rid of body fat in process (YES, very possible IF you know what you are doing)
2) Get rid of level of bodyfat needed to be considered WINNER in bodybuilding contest (which could be debatable what is that LEVEL) - but nevertheless -devoid your body of unnecessary body fat...
3) Maintain general health by making sure all necessary essential nutrients are present in diet of human being engaged in extreme physical efforts who is trying to make favorable changes in body composition - and those changes being of extreme nature: highest amount of muscle mass increases (and if particular - specific changes in specific regions...Not always changing just MASS component but sometimes SHAPE, quality...etc), loss of body fat, manipulation of extracellular/intracellular water...with electrolytes...and GLYCOGEN storage in muscle as well as liver....Manipulation in sense of increasing capacity of glycogen storage + directing water/electrolytes of choice - INSIDE the cells...and getting rid of extracellular water...thus achieving that winning combination bodybuilders wan...
4) Increasing (instead of decreasing) metabolism - as contest prep calls for INCREASED physical activities - thus making it possible to safely INCREASE amount of calories rather than decreasing - to me COMPLETE NONSENSE that many compettors follow as many "gurus' recommend...
...well, as I have to go - I can't finish...but I want to make sure I make a point:
I show guys how to do everything 100% - and going for 100% sometimes leaves chances for mistakes...
Mistakes are most commonly visible in EXCEEDING AMOUNT OF CARBS in relation to GLYCOGEN CAPACITY of the athletes...
So, when some athlete starts carb loading - or carb manipulation - they could leave it at any stage in process of "filling" the glycogen stores back up (after depletion phase)...
If anyone is chicken-shit - they would play safe and just NOT CARB LOAD at all or take minimal amount of carbs - as they would simply NOT WANT ANY RISKS...
Well, some actually do RISK and take chances - to get much higher percentage of glycogen storage - making their physiques much bigger, fuller, even tighter - IF done perfectly...
But, when someone like DJ - "who wold like to f.ck...but doesn't want to really stick it in" (term I use for someone who wants me to help him with - observing how far could he go with glycogen repletion - but he doesn't want me to see him every couple of hours - as Oh, my back hurts and I want to quit the contest, lying on his back in front of his family - telling me that he can't let me see him pose - day before the show...and who goes for that last meal - where he could let carbs alone at that point - being almost maxed out anyway - decides to have BINGE and keeps eating like there is no tomorrow, going to restaurant next door in quest for whatever he didn't find in one I was seating with his family...and simply OVERFILLS his storage - yet doesn't let me see him...YES IT IS GREAT POSSIBILITY - I gave him a bad advice and thus - becoming responsible for his disastrous result in Colorado show...- which BTW I accepted responsibility for...
I failed as a trainer and a coach - as I considered our friendship and "emotions" and felt bad enough to call him big baby in front of his wife and daughter and demand to see him every hour and watch him eat every bite - in fear that he could be one of those who once starts binging could not stop for a life of him...
What's important for me to mention - athletes mentioned here (as many others) I helped for FREE - as a friend...and more often than not - paying for my own transportation/hotel accommodation - while helping them compete - instead of staying home with MY FAMILY making my living...
As I failed to "create a miracle" I guess - I am ridiculed and made fun off - by the very people I helped...?!
And comments they make are intended for what - making me more business or pushing people away - so I absolutely don't?
And that is the sad truth of "IFBB camaraderie"...I guess...
For what is worth - Silvio and DJ - could bring ANY guru and than some in front of me and challenge me and my knowledge - to show them with pleasure how I measure up against others...
And that challenge I also accept publicly
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Or....... this guy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
before i started training or dieting... nice try though
why dont you post your own picture. :)
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Milos knocking out a detailed 1500 word essay in a matter of minutes
:o
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how do you explain both of them looking much better after they stopped following your advices?
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here you go :-*
thats the best youve ever looked, or at leats the bets youve ever looked ina picture youve posted here. have you gained weight? if so, how much?
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...well, as I have to go - I can't finish...but I want to make sure I make a point:
I show guys how to do everything 100% - and going for 100% sometimes leaves chances for mistakes...
Mistakes are most commonly visible in EXCEEDING AMOUNT OF CARBS in relation to GLYCOGEN CAPACITY of the athletes...
So, when some athlete starts carb loading - or carb manipulation - they could leave it at any stage in process of "filling" the glycogen stores back up (after depletion phase)...
If anyone is chicken-shit - they would play safe and just NOT CARB LOAD at all or take minimal amount of carbs - as they would simply NOT WANT ANY RISKS...
Well, some actually do RISK and take chances - to get much higher percentage of glycogen storage - making their physiques much bigger, fuller, even tighter - IF done perfectly...
But, when someone like DJ - "who wold like to f.ck...but doesn't want to really stick it in" (term I use for someone who wants me to help him with - observing how far could he go with glycogen repletion - but he doesn't want me to see him every couple of hours - as Oh, my back hurts and I want to quit the contest, lying on his back in front of his family - telling me that he can't let me see him pose - day before the show...and who goes for that last meal - where he could let carbs alone at that point - being almost maxed out anyway - decides to have BINGE and keeps eating like there is no tomorrow, going to restaurant next door in quest for whatever he didn't find in one I was seating with his family...and simply OVERFILLS his storage - yet doesn't let me see him...YES IT IS GREAT POSSIBILITY - I gave him a bad advice and thus - becoming responsible for his disastrous result in Colorado show...- which BTW I accepted responsibility for...
I failed as a trainer and a coach - as I considered our friendship and "emotions" and felt bad enough to call him big baby in front of his wife and daughter and demand to see him every hour and watch him eat every bite - in fear that he could be one of those who once starts binging could not stop for a life of him...
What's important for me to mention - athletes mentioned here (as many others) I helped for FREE - as a friend...and more often than not - paying for my own transportation/hotel accommodation - while helping them compete - instead of staying home with MY FAMILY making my living...
As I failed to "create a miracle" I guess - I am ridiculed and made fun off - by the very people I helped...?!
And comments they make are intended for what - making me more business or pushing people away - so I absolutely don't?
And that is the sad truth of "IFBB camaraderie"...I guess...
For what is worth - Silvio and DJ - could bring ANY guru and than some in front of me and challenge me and my knowledge - to show them with pleasure how I measure up against others...
And that challenge I also accept publicly
Wow. I usually just say bye.
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I said million times - there are so many "unbelievable" ::) expert-nutritionists in bodybuilding - that do absolute miracles with their competitors...
You usually say you have the "highest respect" for their "incredible knowledge" when asked on radio shows etc. Why don't you say what you really think... for example that you think Palumbo is a fucking moron giving suicidal advice to his clients? :D
And I thought you said Mr O competitors didn't abuse themselves with various drugs and prep methods because they were so knowledgeable? :D
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lmao dude, your a fucking clown, not because they were training hard. your "giant sets" wouldnt make anybody throw up, not unless they felt sick beause of the pre workout slin. they were making fun of your dumbass for the massive carb loads that made them sick. its on flexonline a dj interview with silvio samuel. http://www.flexonline.com/videos/91 watch at 14:30.
Which video is it, this directs me to some fitness chick video.
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I tell ya, any thread with Milos in it is always entertaining! Keep it up Milos! ;D
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Which video is it, this directs me to some fitness chick video.
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/?bcpid=17320904001&bclid=1460782895&bctid
thats the closest i oculd get you with a link. its the interview section of flexonline. you have to scroll down to the silvio samuel interview. they start on milos at 1430
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if you want to make threats like that, come meet me. im not going to drive all the way to so cal to come call you a dumbass and then drive back. manteca, california. its about 6 hours north of you. ;)
;) cyber :'( hero...
You are calling me 'dumbass' in Cyber territory where you "rule' ...
I am calling you to real life - posting under my name and my name only - and letting everyone know where I could easily be found - if need be...
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All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone. HTH.
Name those 10 - and ask them to confirm... ;)
And WHY only that much? Are you sure it's not double, triple or god-knows what amount...?
Or maybe...just maybe...some of the top pros do have longevity for very good reason - they don't abuse steroids for simple reason - they know better...
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how do you explain both of them looking much better after they stopped following your advices?
Really?
Silvio made huge gains with me - than started descending - until he realized what he have learned from me - and went back on it...
DJ ?
He went backwards and lost tons of size in comparison...yet - did come 'dryer' into the shows he certainly choose NOT TO RISK a single thing...
I've seen him better 100's of times - if you ask me...
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You usually say you have the "highest respect" for their "incredible knowledge" when asked on radio shows etc. Why don't you say what you really think... for example that you think Palumbo is a fucking moron giving suicidal advice to his clients? :D
And I thought you said Mr O competitors didn't abuse themselves with various drugs and prep methods because they were so knowledgeable? :D
Who do you think I am talking about here?
Certainly not top gurus and top pros - which you seem to think that I am talking about...
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I tell ya, any thread with Milos in it is always entertaining! Keep it up Milos! ;D
I am more entertaining in person - as my accent usually does the trick...
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I am more entertaining in person - as my accent usually does the trick...
Hey Milos, you always had great posing music and routines; what do you think about the gay ass RMB/RAP shit and the crap posing nowadays?
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Who do you think I am talking about here?
Certainly not top gurus and top pros - which you seem to think that I am talking about...
Does not Palumbo deprive his clients of calories, have them do endless cardio and do very little carb loading? Are you saying Palumbo does not do this and that you think his methods are great?
So tell me, who are you talking about exactly? You say "guru" so they must have some notoriety. You're not being honest here.
And why did you take responsibility for DJ's fuck up when what you really think is that he fucked himself up?
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Name those 10 - and ask them to confirm... ;)
And WHY only that much? Are you sure it's not double, triple or god-knows what amount...?
Or maybe...just maybe...some of the top pros do have longevity for very good reason - they don't abuse steroids for simple reason - they know better...
Practically every pro has experimented with up to 5000 mg or so and realized that increased results diminish after about 2000 to 2500 mg of testosterone (+ other compounds). I'm sure you know this....well, maybe not, since you weren't really a top 10 pro - or maybe you were for just one year? :)
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hey milos im going to give away yoru advice and do it for free
test e 250mg mon-wed-fri
gh 4iu ed
humalog 20iu pre workout
t3 25mcg ed
BOOOOOOMMMM
now thats what you say in the open, so now i post what you say behind closed doors
test e 250mg ed
gh 10iu ed
humalog 20iu 3x times per day
t3 25mcg ed
now get the fuck out of here with your bullshit, dumbass
I'm just asking,who cares "if" he would lie?,i mean if he would say in the open what you stated as 'behind closed doors' you would think "he is lieing,it gotta be more than that" , it's just a never-ending circle..
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;) cyber :'( hero...
You are calling me 'dumbass' in Cyber territory where you "rule' ...
I am calling you to real life - posting under my name and my name only - and letting everyone know where I could easily be found - if need be...
your the one who said you wanted to spank me.. i never said i wanted to do anything at all physical to you, only insulted yoru intelligence. if youd like ill send you my exact address in a p.m... i already told you my town name..
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your the one who said you wanted to spank me.. i never said i wanted to do anything at all physical to you, only insulted yoru intelligence. if youd like ill send you my exact address in a p.m... i already told you my town name..
WOW...already gave me your town name...O-K than...
I said for a reason my "cyber hero" that "tough talk" behind the keyboard is usually a clear sign of major insecurities of inferior babies - wishing they could be a real man in real world yet using every excuse in the book they continue living in their fantasy cyber world - where walking the walk is only imaginary solution for their big talk...
So, now you will send me exact address in a p.m.....
You already told me your town name...
WOW - what's next?
Any idea what you are presenting here?
No?
Maybe you could ask your mama - when you start shaking and finish few roles of that toilet paper - you so desperately need...if it is OK to call someone dumbass ?
I am sure mom would have no problem somebody teaching you some manners...
But...just out of curiosity... WHAT is the reason you can't post under your real name?
Witness protection program?
Endangered specie?
Illegal alien?
America most wanted?
ED - anonymous?
or just NOBODY - afraid to become somebody...?
Have a nice - www.giga-day...or according to the size of your balls I should say - nano-day?
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calm down fellas, your arguing over other guys muscles...you know that right ?
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oh...gift for you...
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One of the best Quads and Abs ever .... sick, deep cuts....
Tbombz ...your turn .. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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calm down fellas, your arguing over other guys muscles...you know that right ?
Hey Jae...my Filipino friend...Is your last name Pacquiao? ;D
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Hey Jae...my Filipino friend...Is your last name Pacquiao? ;D
You didn't answer my posing question... :-\
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You didn't answer my posing question... :-\
Well...how should I say....???
A - HELL NO...I don't like it, support it, endorse it, recommend it, want to see it ever again...etc...etc
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Well...how should I say....???
A - HELL NO...I don't like it, support it, endorse it, recommend it, want to see it ever again...etc...etc
I agree. :) You were a great poser with great music!
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I agree. :) You were a great poser with great music!
Melvin, Darrem and Vince Taylor - did manage to make some moves border line acceptable...and so was Kai in few posing routines I've seen...but I believe that all of the mentioned exceptional people, bodybuilders and posers would make their routines that much better IF they would keep "potentially provocative" poses - for guest posing appearances and certainly NOT the competitions...
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All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone. HTH.
ALL getbig recreational juicers in average exceed amount of mg of test per week of average top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors!
And I am NOT being sarcastic...but deeply believe in it...knowing with high level of accuracy what top 10 Mr. O are using and assuming what average getbig juicers take (or getbig natural = suppose to be believed to be natural...)
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All top 10 Mr. Olympia competitors take about 2000-2500 mg of test per week alone. HTH.
EPIC TRUTH.
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You usually say you have the "highest respect" for their "incredible knowledge" when asked on radio shows etc. Why don't you say what you really think... for example that you think Palumbo is a fucking moron giving suicidal advice to his clients? :D
And I thought you said Mr O competitors didn't abuse themselves with various drugs and prep methods because they were so knowledgeable? :D
Van-der-ass - you are really pain in the ass...
While I do respect RESULTS of many gurus and knowledge of few...I was referring here to numerous "trainers" around the country - not TOP GURUS...and thus comment that clients of those trainers are juicing to the jing-jing...which obviously would immediately exclude PROFESSIONALS - as I keep insisting THEY ARE not abusers but rather reasonable users...
And as far as your "double standard" - you want to learn, yet constantly complain...Want to fuck but don't want to ...never mind...
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hey Milos can you list a "typical" pro cycle from what you've seen then?
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Milos, my last name is not Pacquiao ....but my family is from the General Santos, PH ...same city as the Pac-man.... I bet your wife was ecstatic about the brutal KO of Hatton a couple of weeks ago. We all share that pride.
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oh...gift for you...
a little bit bigger arms and that is bodybuilding PERFECTION right there.
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WOW...already gave me your town name...O-K than...
I said for a reason my "cyber hero" that "tough talk" behind the keyboard is usually a clear sign of major insecurities of inferior babies - wishing they could be a real man in real world yet using every excuse in the book they continue living in their fantasy cyber world - where walking the walk is only imaginary solution for their big talk...
So, now you will send me exact address in a p.m.....
You already told me your town name...
WOW - what's next?
Any idea what you are presenting here?
No?
Maybe you could ask your mama - when you start shaking and finish few roles of that toilet paper - you so desperately need...if it is OK to call someone dumbass ?
I am sure mom would have no problem somebody teaching you some manners...
But...just out of curiosity... WHAT is the reason you can't post under your real name?
Witness protection program?
Endangered specie?
Illegal alien?
America most wanted?
ED - anonymous?
or just NOBODY - afraid to become somebody...?
Have a nice - www.giga-day...or according to the size of your balls I should say - nano-day?
hey tough guy check your pm i sent you my full name, address, telephone number... :-*
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EPIC TRUTH.
Interestingly - I worked with numerous - and not a single one reach that level...
I also spoke to "others" as they often ask me for opinion - and have not find a single one...
Most was - sustanon 250/ day which - if you do the math is still under 2000mg/week...
but...legitimate trainer of pros have less credibility than idiots-anonymous (like gh15...or should I call him - IQ15 on gh + others alike)...
Can anyone give me ONE good reason WHY would I keep insisting that truth is different?
A single logical reason for me to lie about it - would be sufficient...
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Interestingly - I worked with numerous - and not a single one reach that level...
I also spoke to "others" as they often ask me for opinion - and have not find a single one...
Most was - sustanon 250/ day which - if you do the math is still under 2000mg/week...
but...legitimate trainer of pros have less credibility than idiots-anonymous (like gh15...or should I call him - IQ15 on gh + others alike)...
Can anyone give me ONE good reason WHY would I keep insisting that truth is different?
A single logical reason for me to lie about it - would be sufficient...
to make pros seem more genetically gifted than they are.
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hey tough guy check your pm i sent you my full name, address, telephone number... :-*
I got it long ago sissy...Just testing your courage....
"tbombz" is "candizzle" and "candidate2025"
I'm sure he has asked you for advice plenty of times before on his
other accounts, he is a huge fan of using your "shake strategies" and insulin protocol
His real name is Taylor Barret
he is some 19 year old dumb ass who left his other accounts because somebody told his mom
that he was on gear lol
I am really getting sick of these retards driving every pro off the boards with their stupidity.
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you meltdown because i called you a dumbass and yet then you proceed to call me numerous insulting names... lmao oh brother..
anyway, dont be s but hurt that i gave out your precious test gh t3 slin stack...lol..this is old news and been on the net for years milos... its no secret so stop acting like i gave awway your secret treasure..
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hey tough guy check your pm i sent you my full name, address, telephone number... :-*
taylor barrett
1113 mamoth dr
manteca ca 95337
cell phone = 2092758168
Wow, address and a phone...
Is your mom going to be there?
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i sent you that... all you did by posting it is prove your a douche... lol... yeah give me a call ill be glad to "chat"..or even better stop by some time we can "work things out"... :D
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you meltdown because i called you a dumbass and yet then you proceed to call me numerous insulting names... lmao oh brother..
anyway, dont be s but hurt that i gave out your precious test gh t3 slin stack...lol..this is old news and been on the net for years milos... its no secret so stop acting like i gave awway your secret treasure..
calm down skippy
this attention seeking behaviour is making you look a little bit desperate
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I got it long ago sissy...Just testing your courage....
"tbombz" is "candizzle" and "candidate2025"
I'm sure he has asked you for advice plenty of times before on his
other accounts, he is a huge fan of using your "shake strategies" and insulin protocol
His real name is Taylor Barret
he is some 19 year old dumb ass who left his other accounts because somebody told his mom
that he was on gear lol
I am really getting sick of these retards driving every pro off the boards with their stupidity.
haha! Damn......
I'm a huge tbombz fan, but that shit is funny.....you gotta admit
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i sent you that... all you did by posting it is prove your a douche... lol... yeah give me a call ill be glad to "chat"..or even better stop by some time we can "work things out"... :D
Good thread.
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you meltdown because i called you a dumbass and yet then you proceed to call me numerous insulting names... lmao oh brother..
anyway, dont be s but hurt that i gave out your precious test gh t3 slin stack...lol..this is old news and been on the net for years milos... its no secret so stop acting like i gave awway your secret treasure..
You are Dumbo and a half ...and that's for sure...You gave out my precious test, gh, t3, slin stack...lol...
Did you maybe consider that THERE IS NO STACK - you stupid moron?
Everyone SHOULD ONLY take what is needed and how much is needed - according to their individual needs, specifics, genetics, affinity for certain medications, goals they are trying to achieve, personal experiences and preferences...and time available (not to mention "drugs" available...)
I have hardly EVER duplicated same cycle for myself as well as many others...as EACH competition is yet another opportunity to TRY something different - as long as we follow THE MOST LOGICAL APPROACH - likely to result in the very best outcome we all are hopping for...
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You are Dumbo and a half ...and that's for sure...You gave out my precious test, gh, t3, slin stack...lol...
Did you maybe consider that THERE IS NO STACK - you stupid moron?
Everyone SHOULD ONLY take what is needed and how much is needed - according to their individual needs, specifics, genetics, affinity for certain medications, goals they are trying to achieve, personal experiences and preferences...and time available (not to mention "drugs" available...)
I have hardly EVER duplicated same cycle for myself as well as many others...as EACH competition is yet another opportunity to TRY something different - as long as we follow THE MOST LOGICAL APPROACH - likely to result in the very best outcome we all are hopping for...
thats you stack, your a liar... yeah sure, you take what is necessary for the goal..and you maniulate th amounts of those depending on the gaol..any maybe switch out test for other anabolics.. cutting = increase t3... gaining = lower t3 and increase slin... pretty simpl basic stuff milos... and yet you charge thousands of dollars for this... :-\ :-X :-\ ..i though you were always worried about bodybuilders best interests...
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i sent you that... all you did by posting it is prove your a douche... lol... yeah give me a call ill be glad to "chat"..or even better stop by some time we can "work things out"... :D
OH T-BAMBI...don't talk the talk you would not be able to back up with action...as I just might give you exactly what you are hopping for...
So, it's been a looong time that I had to do something completely out of line...border line - stupid, ridiculous...absolutely unnecessary...etc...etc. ..etc...yet - oh so appealing...
For a sake of excitement - if nothing else - and little entertainment - as we could have little youtube action...Kimbo Slice style...
Are you inviting me to your home to "work things out" or - something else?
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thats you stack, your a liar... yeah sure, you take what is necessary for the goal..and you maniulate th amounts of those depending on the gaol..any maybe switch out test for other anabolics.. cutting = increase t3... gaining = lower t3 and increase slin... pretty simpl basic stuff milos... and yet you charge thousands of dollars for this... :-\ :-X :-\ ..i though you were always worried about bodybuilders best interests...
well - this just about sums it up...and explains how much you really now about ANYTHING... ::)
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OH T-BAMBI...don't talk the talk you would not be able to back up with action...as I just might give you exactly what you are hopping for...
So, it's been a looong time that I had to do something completely out of line...border line - stupid, ridiculous...absolutely unnecessary...etc...etc. ..etc...yet - oh so appealing...
For a sake of excitement - if nothing else - and little entertainment - as we could have little youtube action...Kimbo Slice style...
Are you inviting me to your home to "work things out" or - something else?
are you going to seriously fight some anonymous twink off the internet
i thought you were better than that ???
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OH T-BAMBI...don't talk the talk you would not be able to back up with action...as I just might give you exactly what you are hopping for...
So, it's been a looong time that I had to do something completely out of line...border line - stupid, ridiculous...absolutely unnecessary...etc...etc. ..etc...yet - oh so appealing...
For a sake of excitement - if nothing else - and little entertainment - as we could have little youtube action...Kimbo Slice style...
Are you inviting me to your home to "work things out" or - something else?
lmao... you call me an internet tough guy and here you are telling me that you would video tape a fight with me.... ahhahahahaha.... ok milos if you are really being serious why dont you come over this weekend and we can do that, if you do come up for a brawl we can go train at my gym afterwards..although i wouldnt expect you to be lifting very much after i mess you up a little... lmao...no but seriously afterwards the gym would be one me.. my treat... oh brother... hahaha... did somebody just say metldown?? somewhere ..i swear i just heard it...
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OH T-BAMBI...don't talk the talk you would not be able to back up with action...as I just might give you exactly what you are hopping for...
So, it's been a looong time that I had to do something completely out of line...border line - stupid, ridiculous...absolutely unnecessary...etc...etc. ..etc...yet - oh so appealing...
For a sake of excitement - if nothing else - and little entertainment - as we could have little youtube action...Kimbo Slice style...
Are you inviting me to your home to "work things out" or - something else?
:) :D ;D
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oh man, hard to believe Milos is taking this shit so seriously. ::)
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oh man, hard to believe Milos is taking this shit so seriously. ::)
I am out to kill >:( >:( >:(kill >:( >:( >:( >:( :-X :-X :-X :-Xkiss :-*kiss :-*...kick...or - whatever...
I am entertaining myself - if you didn't notice...And Jae, Alexxx and few more getbig people could tell you - it is not the first time...
I just like to see some of "cyber heros" in their pathetic way looking for every excuse in the book NOT to find a way to show some balls - after they "invite people for balling"...thats all... ;D
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are you going to seriously fight some anonymous twink off the internet
i thought you were better than that ???
Oh - why not?
Better than what?
Life gets boring after a while - and here we are...on WEB - where stars are born...
I could easily start KIMBO - MANIA in pro bodybuilding/bulletin board world...and have PPV or YOUTUBE (hmm - maybe Koloseum Production Broadcast ?) grudge matches...?
MMA is becoming so popular - maybe Dayna White would consider giving the opportunity to some other athletes (bodybuilders?) come to Octagon and go at it...?
Many of us have that "warrior mentality" but don't really want to beat anyone up for no reason...It is not such a honorable thing to do...of course...
But, when somebody talks smack - I think it is great way to "work things out" as my cyber hero in diapers - said...
So, really - i find it perfectly ok...to let cyber tough guys be tough guys in real life...
As I don't remember ever, anyone calling me a dumbass to my face, and especially for no reason and all...I want to see how would that same hero act in real life...
Maybe with challenges and than "meltdown" cries - hopping his cyber friends would agree that someone is "melting" for whatever reason - thus trying to escape opportunity to prove what they supposedly are asking for?
Interestingly, T-BAMBI is offering "training" after our little "talk" - obviously confirming - he doesn't have a slightest clue what does it mean fighting someone...
So, I welcome this "anger management" solutions...and certainly - making myself available - as i do want to be "discovered" and maybe have match with Randy, Brock...who knows...oh - well...I guess my reality is bambi-o-mighty boob man
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thats you stack, your a liar... yeah sure, you take what is necessary for the goal..and you maniulate th amounts of those depending on the gaol..any maybe switch out test for other anabolics.. cutting = increase t3... gaining = lower t3 and increase slin... pretty simpl basic stuff milos... and yet you charge thousands of dollars for this... :-\ :-X :-\ ..i though you were always worried about bodybuilders best interests...
My stack?
For who and for what?
Why in the world would you make yourself look like the moron you truly are?
Can't you at least pretend you are not - by posting something less idiotic than this?
What's next - you'll also mention my diet?
Probably - 4 egg whites with 2 whole omega eggs, mixed with 100 grams of chicken, same amount of lean beef and cup of plain yogurt , 4 slices of toast (each being from different grains - bread, Vogel and EZ...)...UDO's oil and multivitamin/mineral pack with extra B-complex and vitamin C...?
Which happens to be ONE MEAL for ONE CLIENT in his diet regimen lasting 16 weeks - and meals generally being different EVERY TIME that client had a scheduled meal...?
Your idea of my stacks is comical...
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well - this just about sums it up...and explains how much you really now about ANYTHING... ::)
Carefull Milos, Tbomz is a trained cagefighter
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My stack?
For who and for what?
Why in the world would you make yourself look like the moron you truly are?
Can't you at least pretend you are not - by posting something less idiotic than this?
What's next - you'll also mention my diet?
Probably - 4 egg whites with 2 whole omega eggs, mixed with 100 grams of chicken, same amount of lean beef and cup of plain yogurt , 4 slices of toast (each being from different grains - bread, Vogel and EZ...)...UDO's oil and multivitamin/mineral pack with extra B-complex and vitamin C...?
Which happens to be ONE MEAL for ONE CLIENT in his diet regimen lasting 16 weeks - and meals generally being different EVERY TIME that client had a scheduled meal...?
Your idea of my stacks is comical...
sounds to me like you dont have much of an idea about nutrition, milos, or else you wouldnt be posting that acting like it means your educated. hahaha. want to explain to me why you think it would be beneficial to use 4 different types of toast? do you think this will make ANY difference WHATSOEVER? hahahaha. and explain to me the usage of all the anti inflammatory fats? is your goal NOT to build muscle? oh milos, milos milos milos... if your going to charge people thousands of dollars for advice, you should at least know what your doing, fool.
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Van-der-ass - you are really pain in the ass...
While I do respect RESULTS of many gurus and knowledge of few...I was referring here to numerous "trainers" around the country - not TOP GURUS...and thus comment that clients of those trainers are juicing to the jing-jing...which obviously would immediately exclude PROFESSIONALS - as I keep insisting THEY ARE not abusers but rather reasonable users...
And as far as your "double standard" - you want to learn, yet constantly complain...Want to fuck but don't want to ...never mind...
I'm a pain in the ass because I ask difficult questions. :)
Your post was CLEARLY a slam on coaches like Palumbo. He does ALL those things you say are moronic in your post. I'm talking about the DIET part. Very low calories, no carbs, periods with no fats either, no carb loads and etc. At least have the balls to admit it. Some of your athletes have gone on to work with coaches with totally different philosophies, sometimes with great results, and this is the reason for your rant. You admit they are dialed in but only because they aren't full and healthy at the same time. If you do think Palumbo is great coach please say it. Say that the no carb deprivation diet is great. :D
You aren't totally honest with the drug issue. I showed it with the IGF-1 advice you denied ever giving. tbombz showed it with the stack you finally admit came from you. What happened to you only knowing ONE pro who ever did 1500mg of test a week? Or do you only recommend this to lower level amateur competitors?
As far as behaving differently on the net we all do it, even you. On the radio show you repeatedly said you didn't want to "open a can of worms" when you disagreed. Here you are much more harsh and ready to call someone a liar or a moron etc. I bet you wouldn't have the same tone IRL with Chick as you do here as it would quickly come to blows. ;)
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sounds to me like you dont have much of an idea about nutrition, milos, or else you wouldnt be posting that acting like it means your educated. hahaha. want to explain to me why you think it would be beneficial to use 4 different types of toast? do you think this will make ANY difference WHATSOEVER? hahahaha. and explain to me the usage of all the anti inflammatory fats? is your goal NOT to build muscle? oh milos, milos milos milos... if your going to charge people thousands of dollars for advice, you should at least know what your doing, fool.
Anti inflammatory fats are more beneficial than Pro-inflammatory when Dieting
That's why guys swtich the steak for fish during contest prep
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sounds to me like you dont have much of an idea about nutrition, milos, or else you wouldnt be posting that acting like it means your educated. hahaha. want to explain to me why you think it would be beneficial to use 4 different types of toast? do you think this will make ANY difference WHATSOEVER? hahahaha. and explain to me the usage of all the anti inflammatory fats? is your goal NOT to build muscle? oh milos, milos milos milos... if your going to charge people thousands of dollars for advice, you should at least know what your doing, fool.
Hmmmm...
Who would you hire, Milos Sarcev the IFBB or TBomb GetBig Legend in his Owned Mind?
::) ::) ::)
Let me think this one over....
....shit, this is a real toss up..... ::) ::) ::)
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What happened to you only knowing ONE pro who ever did 1500mg of test a week? Or do you only recommend this to lower level amateur competitors?
if you look in this thread one time he says that pros take 750 and only one takes more... then if you look at another post he says that the average answer pros give him is one amp of 250 per day... so we have two different answers to the same question here... :D
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LOL, tdongz would never show his face at the Koloseum. Wouldn't even show it for a workout with myself, Alex23 and big_mal.......the guy is a drug addicted coward spewing back whatever he reads on teh internets.
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sounds to me like you dont have much of an idea about nutrition, milos, or else you wouldnt be posting that acting like it means your educated. hahaha. want to explain to me why you think it would be beneficial to use 4 different types of toast? do you think this will make ANY difference WHATSOEVER? hahahaha. and explain to me the usage of all the anti inflammatory fats? is your goal NOT to build muscle? oh milos, milos milos milos... if your going to charge people thousands of dollars for advice, you should at least know what your doing, fool.
Milos forgot more about training and nutrition than you will ever find on the net son.
You look so stupid arguing with Milos about his business.
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Milos forgot more about training and nutrition than you will ever find on the net son.
You look so stupid arguing with Milos about his business.
exactly. only on the internet could a little stupid gay punk get away with calling someone like Milos a fool
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LOL, tdongz would never show his face at the Koloseum. Wouldn't even show it for a workout with myself, Alex23 and big_mal.......the guy is a drug addicted coward spewing back whatever he reads on teh internets.
good point
he is an annoying little cu tn
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sounds to me like you dont have much of an idea about nutrition, milos, or else you wouldnt be posting that acting like it means your educated. hahaha. want to explain to me why you think it would be beneficial to use 4 different types of toast? do you think this will make ANY difference WHATSOEVER? hahahaha. and explain to me the usage of all the anti inflammatory fats? is your goal NOT to build muscle? oh milos, milos milos milos... if your going to charge people thousands of dollars for advice, you should at least know what your doing, fool.
Oh, this is priceless...
I will have to save it and post it on my board as well...
But, first - regarding my PM to you:
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Interestingly - you are not picking up and your "storage" is full... Roll Eyes
My 11 year old daughter encouraged me to call you, after realizing what you were saying - as she wanted to see how I talk to "bad boys"...
I told her - well Aleks...I'll give you $100 bucks if our "cyber hero" answer the phone...She asked: really?
I said - absolutely...
She goes - would you bet a $ 1000?
I looked at her and realize - my God, you know me that well? OK - thousand it is...
She was so happy - hopping that you'll answer...and I really wanted to give her that much cash - as she was great negotiator ...but we soon learned - your sad truth...
You could not prove my case better than you did...
THX hero Wink
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Did anyone get owned?
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Oh, this is priceless...
I will have to save it and post it on my board as well...
But, first - regarding my PM to you:
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Interestingly - you are not picking up and your "storage" is full... Roll Eyes
My 11 year old daughter encouraged me to call you, after realizing what you were saying - as she wanted to see how I talk to "bad boys"...
I told her - well Aleks...I'll give you $100 bucks if our "cyber hero" answer the phone...She asked: really?
I said - absolutely...
She goes - would you bet a $ 1000?
I looked at her and realize - my God, you know me that well? OK - thousand it is...
She was so happy - hopping that you'll answer...and I really wanted to give her that much cash - as she was great negotiator ...but we soon learned - your sad truth...
You could not prove my case better than you did...
THX hero Wink
I replied to your p.m. I told you that if I didnt answer its because I dont answer calls when I dont know the number. Call again and Ill make sure to answer.
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Oh, this is priceless...
I will have to save it and post it on my board as well...
But, first - regarding my PM to you:
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Interestingly - you are not picking up and your "storage" is full... Roll Eyes
My 11 year old daughter encouraged me to call you, after realizing what you were saying - as she wanted to see how I talk to "bad boys"...
I told her - well Aleks...I'll give you $100 bucks if our "cyber hero" answer the phone...She asked: really?
I said - absolutely...
She goes - would you bet a $ 1000?
I looked at her and realize - my God, you know me that well? OK - thousand it is...
She was so happy - hopping that you'll answer...and I really wanted to give her that much cash - as she was great negotiator ...but we soon learned - your sad truth...
You could not prove my case better than you did...
THX hero Wink
:D Tbombz he can't hurt you over the phone, well maybe your feelings ;D
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In fact im scrolling through my call log and i dont have any missed calls from any unknown numbers. He is right that my inbox is full though. which is strange because by the looks of it he didnt call.
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In fact im scrolling through my call log and i dont have any missed calls from any unknown numbers. He is right that my inbox is full though. which is strange because by the looks of it he didnt call.
Whats your beef with Milos?
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In fact im scrolling through my call log and i dont have any missed calls from any unknown numbers. He is right that my inbox is full though. which is strange because by the looks of it he didnt call.
Milos dosen't have the balls to call you man
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In fact im scrolling through my call log and i dont have any missed calls from any unknown numbers. He is right that my inbox is full though. which is strange because by the looks of it he didnt call.
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IN FACT ::) ::) ::)
Try may 15th, 2009 14:02 or 2:02 pm and than 14:30 or 2:30 pm
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:D
Milos how come you didn't come to the NY Pro
Thing called - "work" coupled with "family"...
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Milos how come you didn't come to the NY Pro
He has been outcast from the IFBB it would hardly be wise to attend a show.
p.s Milos you don't need to mention that you have work or a family in every other post.
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Milos dosen't have the balls to call you man
Yet another cyber superman?
Care to give me yours?
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IN FACT ::) ::) ::)
Try may 15th, 2009 14:02 or 2:02 pm and than 14:30 or 2:30 pm
Now I see the call. Your phone number resembles a telemarketing number, with the foreign area code and all. I never answer those types of numbers.
Talk to you in a bit.
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milos hide was spot on ,he looked great.u know ur stuff
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Yet another cyber superman?
Care to give me yours?
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milos hide was spot on ,he looked great.u know ur stuff
hide is with charles glass.
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Thing called - "work" coupled with "family"...
Yeah I have a job and family also and made it to the show. Whatever I was asking you a simple question I guess you are in "tough guy" mode yourself
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Milos call me in the next few minutes or wait to call me for another 2 hours.. Im going to the gym in just a bit.
By the way somebody just "prank called" me saying they were Melvin Goodrum of caliber fitness.
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hide is with charles glass.
WELL .milos posted pics ,either way he looked awesome.milos is his friend and a good eye for hide.
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Oh - why not?
Better than what?
Life gets boring after a while - and here we are...on WEB - where stars are born...
I could easily start KIMBO - MANIA in pro bodybuilding/bulletin board world...and have PPV or YOUTUBE (hmm - maybe Koloseum Production Broadcast ?) grudge matches...?
MMA is becoming so popular - maybe Dayna White would consider giving the opportunity to some other athletes (bodybuilders?) come to Octagon and go at it...?
Many of us have that "warrior mentality" but don't really want to beat anyone up for no reason...It is not such a honorable thing to do...of course...
But, when somebody talks smack - I think it is great way to "work things out" as my cyber hero in diapers - said...
So, really - i find it perfectly ok...to let cyber tough guys be tough guys in real life...
As I don't remember ever, anyone calling me a dumbass to my face, and especially for no reason and all...I want to see how would that same hero act in real life...
Maybe with challenges and than "meltdown" cries - hopping his cyber friends would agree that someone is "melting" for whatever reason - thus trying to escape opportunity to prove what they supposedly are asking for?
Interestingly, T-BAMBI is offering "training" after our little "talk" - obviously confirming - he doesn't have a slightest clue what does it mean fighting someone...
So, I welcome this "anger management" solutions...and certainly - making myself available - as i do want to be "discovered" and maybe have match with Randy, Brock...who knows...oh - well...I guess my reality is bambi-o-mighty boob man
If you tried fighting tbomz you would tear your triceps after throwing the first punch, then lie in agony on the floor while he kicks you in the bicep and springs an oil leak.
hey milos, the middle east called, they want their oil back.
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did you get another phonecall candidizzle?
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Milos is a hypocrite....but at least he embraces his hypocrisy!
Yes Milos makes no secret of the fact that he despises the IFBB. Milos has a deep hatred for the corrupt forces that run this much maligned private company.
With such hypocrisy, Milos would make a perfect candidate for Presidency of the IFBB!
I support this hypocrite-Milos for his desire to one day preside over this drug sport!
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if you look in this thread one time he says that pros take 750 and only one takes more... then if you look at another post he says that the average answer pros give him is one amp of 250 per day... so we have two different answers to the same question here... :D
Where did he say that?
Learn to read:
Interestingly - I worked with numerous - and not a single one reach that level...
I also spoke to "others" as they often ask me for opinion - and have not find a single one...
Most was - sustanon 250/ day which - if you do the math is still under 2000mg/week...
Meaning "the most he heard was 250/day", he never said that the average takes 250/day
No wonder you have a hard time comprehending the simplest of things... :-\
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Where did he say that?
Learn to read:
Meaning "the most he heard was 250/day", he never said that the average takes 250/day
No wonder you have a hard time comprehending the simplest of things... :-\
"the most i heard was 250/day" = "the most common answer i heard was 250/day"
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Interestingly - I worked with numerous - and not a single one reach that level...
I also spoke to "others" as they often ask me for opinion - and have not find a single one...
Most was - sustanon 250/ day which - if you do the math is still under 2000mg/week...
but...legitimate trainer of pros have less credibility than idiots-anonymous (like gh15...or should I call him - IQ15 on gh + others alike)...
Can anyone give me ONE good reason WHY would I keep insisting that truth is different?
A single logical reason for me to lie about it - would be sufficient...
so dennis james never experimented with more than one amp of test a day ::)
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candi - was the milos cycle you posted specifically designed for you or did you get it off a board ?
milos - are you claiming that that cycle candi posted was not yours, or was specific to some individual ? if so the only real difference between the public and private cycles seems to be dosages. So we really cannot believe your low dose public cycles at all, and in fact the higher dosages +igf-1 are more like real pro cycles than the fantasy 750mg test etc etc
if you are going to talk/type about cycles at all, why not tell the truth ?
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if you are going to talk/type about cycles at all, why not tell the truth ?
I think what Milos is trying to say is that you can get good results without going crazy with the drugs. That's all fine and good. And he's right. But I can imagine he has a hell of a time trying to get the average client to drop the dosages. There's no way Coleman or Jay or Dennis or Branch never tried more than 750mg of test or more than 6iu of growth. I wonder if Team Milos members Armin Scholz or Luke Wood ever exceeded those dosages? :D
The Coach said Milos' Pro dosage claims are probably correct. However Disgusted, who helped Coach with contest prep, said the top guys dose between 3-7 grams total per week. Now if only 250-750mg of that is test that's a hell of a lot of anabolics to add on top. :D The highest GH dosage he heard directly from a top guy was 19iu he said.
He says he knows of no one who ever took more than 1500mg. Who is he talking about here? It's a "Olympia hopeful".
No Van - I never experimented with mega-doses...but I did talk to guys that took not just Mega or Giga...I had few clients that used "Tera" doses... ;D
I had a guy who came to me from Europe and told me: Milos, I am a living proof that steroids CANNOT KILL anyone...
Hmmmmmm, did you try to inject 100 cc of test into your brain?
Guy said, well not exactly...but I did try 100 cc a day when we are on the subject....
:o :o :o :o :o
100 cc A DAY???? For the love of God - it is easier way to kill yourself....and before I finished he added and I took 100 cc/day for two weeks straight along with 100 IU/day of this and 200 IU/day of that and 300 tablets every single day....with 12000 kcal diet...and I gained 12 kilos in two weeks!!!
I told him to go on cycle like one I posted here and trains twice daily YES , using my protocol of Humalog 45 minutes BEFORE TRAINING (as I have several different protocols all depending on particulars...) and 5000 kcal per day...
He managed to gain 47 pounds in ONE MONTH - 21.5 kilos...but in first two weeks he exceeded his previous best by 0.5 kg...He gained 12.5 kg in first two weeks of this cycle...with FRACTION of "drugs" he thought are needed for Mr. Olympia hopefuls...
So he is preaching moderation, which is great, but there's heavy use even in the pros.
Here's what Dave Jacobs claimed someone in the O did (Branch?)
If you want to take up and total up all mgs of gear then yes there are many who do up to close to and over 5g of gear on a weekly basis.
For example. I know someone who did the following for the Olympia last year:
Test - 2.5g weekly (long acting at start then 5 weeks out switching to prop and phenyl prop)
EQ - 600mg Weekly
Durabolin - 700 mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Winstrol - 350mg weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Masteron - 350mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Proviron - 700mg Weekly (100mg daily)
Halotestin - 210mg Weekly (30mg daily) (Last 5 weeks pre contest)
Nolvadex - 210mg Weekly (30mg Daily)
Anavar - 420mg weekly (60mg daily)
not calculated
10iu HgH daily
25mcg IGF1 - Daily
So that in itself gives you 6040mg or 6.04 grams per week.
I think that is on the very high end and for a big show. A normal "off season" cycle would not have near that much stuff in it.
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i appreciate milos even engaging with us on these topics, but as you have pointed out numerous times now there is a lot of conflicting advice being handed out by milos. Which leads me to doubt some of the things he says.
Perhaps the 750mg of test is true when insulin+gh+igf-1 is involved in his cycles.
but even at that most here would still believe the 2g+ level of test is more acurate in the pro ranks.
if milos was perhaps clearer in his recommendations and stated under what conditions the dosages would/should be changed then i and everyone else would understand him more.
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I've always heard that once you "up the dosage," that you can't really back off. I have no clue about any of this stuff, but it makes logical sense to me.
So if someone were to use the aforementioned 6.04g/week, then during offseason if they did any less than that they'd probably end up like Levrone towards the ends of his career, shrinking and gaining size going into a show?
Maybe it's because you only have so much time, and if you hit the shit hard while you're young you can get where you think you want to go faster. But to me I would think starting low and reaching a plateau would be far more beneficial than just starting at ridiculous amounts of shit.
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Milos - you care way too much about people that don't matter. STOP!
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I've always heard that once you "up the dosage," that you can't really back off. I have no clue about any of this stuff, but it makes logical sense to me.
So if someone were to use the aforementioned 6.04g/week, then during offseason if they did any less than that they'd probably end up like Levrone towards the ends of his career, shrinking and gaining size going into a show?
Maybe it's because you only have so much time, and if you hit the shit hard while you're young you can get where you think you want to go faster. But to me I would think starting low and reaching a plateau would be far more beneficial than just starting at ridiculous amounts of shit.
no thats not true. steroids never stop working and if your taking X doseage and growing at Y rate, then you start taking X+5 doseage and start growing at Y+5 rate.... when you drop back down to X doseage you will still be growing at Y rate... of course this is with all other things equal and adequate nutrition
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no thats not true. steroids never stop working and if your taking X doseage and growing at Y rate, then you start taking X+5 doseage and start growing at Y+5 rate.... when you drop back down to X doseage you will still be growing at Y rate... of course this is with all other things equal and adequate nutrition
So you do not believe in the 'mythical' receptor burnout?
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So you do not believe in the 'mythical' receptor burnout?
it's actually the opposite. your receptors upregulate.
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So you do not believe in the 'mythical' receptor burnout?
its impossible for an androgen receptor to "burn out". receptors are receptors and they always respond when activated. with steroids and gh and insulin and all these growth promoting drugs.... the more you take and the longer you take them = the better the gains.
it's actually the opposite. your receptors upregulate.
theres no real hard proof that it goes either way. there was studies done showing short term upregulation, but also that over time they were down regulated back to normal levels. resistance exercise is a good AR upregulator, and bodybuilders do plenty of that. whether or not steroids upregulate or down regulate probably doesnt mean too much, because the total effect is not gong to be enough to override any increase or decreas in androgen levels in the body.
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Not to take any ones side
but I know top 5 Olympian who do only 600 mg test ++
however that doesnt mean that there aint people at the O stage who dont go up to 2g or more of test
You people still forget that the biggest factor of winning the O is not hard work, strict diet not heavy cycle
the main factor is "GENETICS" u got to have good genetics in order to respond well to the training, diet and gear
and u have to have good genetics to have good shape muscle
as the anatomy of muscle and the same but the shape and angels of attachments differ
that is Dexter's lat can never look like Kai's
and Ronnie's abs never look like Flex
Having bigger and harder muscle doesn't necessary make is better looking or more symmetrical with other muscle groups
look at Paco and Markus
Big everything but no flow
the body parts are not symmetrical to each other