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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Deicide on June 13, 2009, 03:13:34 PM
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does the pope fondle little boys?
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Duh, yeah. And rare enough; I've never seen one.
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Id say yes. I only know 1 guy in my gym who can do that
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no, its a shit lift ::)
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That is when I mentioned (as I'd done years prior) that the biggest and strongest I have been happen to be at age 32, back in 2005. That's when I was over 250 lbs (though hardly "ripped" at that weight) and that's when, for the first time in my life, my bench press exceeded the 400-lb mark (405, to be exact, on Sept. 1, 2005; this was after hitting 400 even on Aug. 29, just a few days earlier).
That's the truth. Whether you believe that or not is your own affair; it makes no difference to me.
We have a genetic freak here gents...
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We have a genetic freak here gents...
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You continue to take shots at me, in order to hide from the fact that your whining and self-pitying have done more to hamper your results than your circumstances.
You will recall that, the last time you did this, several posters took you to task on it. They further stated that what I'd done was good in its own right (especially for my own personal achievement), it was hardly out of the ordinary and certainly not outside the realms of possibility.
Plus, few here would consider a guy, whose max bench didn't exceed 400, UNTIL AGE 32 as a "genetic freak".
But, never let the facts stand in the way of a good "nobody-knows-the-trouble-I-see" pity party. Would you like a gallon of ice cream to go along with your sackcloth and ashes?
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I genuinely though deicide was being sincere dude. Though i could be wrong.
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You continue to take shots at me, in order to hide from the fact that your whining and self-pitying have done more to hamper your results than your circumstances.
You will recall that, the last time you did this, several posters took you to task on it. They further stated that what I'd done was good in its own right (especially for my own personal achievement), it was hardly out of the ordinary and certainly not outside the realms of possibility.
Plus, few here would consider a guy, whose max bench didn't exceed 400, UNTIL AGE 32 as a "genetic freak".
But, never let the facts stand in the way of a good "nobody-knows-the-trouble-I-see" pity party. Would you like a gallon of ice cream to go along with your sackcloth and ashes?
Sure thing MCBEAST...
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I genuinely though deicide was being sincere dude. Though i could be wrong.
I was. I am bad at judging bench since mine is so weak. I guess MCWAY is pretty strong if he isn't BSing...
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It is certinaly strong and certainblky realistic at that age and bodyweight
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It is certinaly strong and certainblky realistic at that age and bodyweight
Guy has never posted a pic though to back up his claims...
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Benefit of doubt...he isnt claiming 400lbs at 17 and 185lbs
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I think impressive is a good enough word.
Not mesmorizing or anything like that...but certainly impressive.
I think 365 is an impressive lift as well.
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Guy has never posted a pic though to back up his claims...
The point of that would be what? Others have posted pics. Yet, the excuses and bellyaching CONTINUE to spew from your lips.
Ben and Jerry's or Breyers?
Benefit of doubt...he isnt claiming 400lbs at 17 and 185lbs
Thanks!! One of my goals is to replicate that feat, this time sans the 40+ inch waist I had.
The other is to get the arms back, with an actual tricep and bicep.
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The point of that would be what? Others have posted pics. Yet, the excuses and bellyaching CONTINUE to spew from your lips.
Ben and Jerry's or Breyers?
Thanks!! One of my goals is to replicate that feat, this time sans the 40+ inch waist I had.
The other is to get the arms back, with an actual tricep and bicep.
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Exactly, others have backed up their claims with pics; you have not.
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Exactly, others have backed up their claims with pics; you have not.
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I don't weigh 250 anymore and haven't since 2005. And, as stated before, it doens't matter.
My not posting my pics doesn't erase your pathetic excuse-making for your lack of results. Every year (at least) you come up with something that's holding you back: Age, genetics, location, job, social status, etc.
What's it going to be next month, or six months from now, or next year?
Rocky Road or French Vanilla?
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Why do you need someone else to tell you that you should or should not be impressed? Fool! Bah!
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I don't weigh 250 anymore and haven't since 2005. And, as stated before, it doens't matter.
My not posting my pics doesn't erase your pathetic excuse-making for your lack of results. Every year (at least) you come up with something that's holding you back: Age, genetics, location, job, social status, etc.
What's it going to be next month, or six months from now, or next year?
Rocky Road or French Vanilla?
Right....you keep on believing what you want to believe.
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Right....you keep on believing what you want to believe.
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Did you or did you NOT start a thread, wailing about your ability to reach your bodybuilding goals going south, after you turned 30?
Did you or did you NOT start a thread, crying about how your parents gave you the shaft on the genetics thing?
Your excuses are well-documented. And, until you cease with them and get down to the business at hand, your wading in the pity waters will continue.
Butter Pecan or Chocolate Mint?
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Did you or did you NOT start a thread, wailing about your ability to reach your bodybuilding goals going south, after you turned 30?
Did you or did you NOT start a thread, crying about how your parents gave you the shaft on the genetics thing?
Your excuses are well-documented. And, until you cease with them and get down to the business at hand, your wading in the pity waters will continue.
Butter Pecan or Chocolate Mint?
I did get the shaft and all appearances to the contrary I know I work hard in the gym and get enough protein in. And yes, it is genetics that explains why my bench is so weak, especially compared to other exercises.
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315 is impressive.
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I did get the shaft and all appearances to the contrary I know I work hard in the gym and get enough protein in. And yes, it is genetics that explains why my bench is so weak, especially compared to other exercises.
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Define "enough" protein.
As for your bench, you may need to work on your supporting muscles and there may be an issue as to HOW you bench press (i.e. where the bar lands on your chest, or as Charles Glass puts it, the "bodybuilding style" vs. the "powerlifting style").
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315 is impressive.
220 is for me... ;D
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Define "enough" protein.
As for your bench, you may need to work on your supporting muscles and there may be an issue as to HOW you bench press (i.e. where the bar lands on your chest, or as Charles Glass puts it, the "bodybuilding style" vs. the "powerlifting style").
AT LEAST 2 grams per kg of body weight, usually more. I use a wide grip.
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AT LEAST 2 grams per kg of body weight, usually more. I use a wide grip.
You didn't mention your bodyweight. If you're at 200 lb (91 kg), that's a mere 182 grams of protein.
If size is your goal, you're going to need WAY more than that. Usually the rule of thumb is 1 gram per lb. of bodyweight, as a starting point. You can adjust from there.
During my college years, my protein intake was over 300 grams a day, with an overall caloric intake exceeding 5000. It took that much just to get me over 200 lbs.
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no, its a shit lift ::)
Yea a pitifull lift. ;D
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what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.
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Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts
Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs
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Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts
Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs
u reckon anythign over 300 lbs is pretty impressive?
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what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.
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what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.
Impossible....PLEASE!!!!!
Furthermore, benching 405 is hardly an indicator of having an Arnold-esque physique (mine is nowhere near like his).
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Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts
Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs
Indeed!!!
I don't consider my genetics good or bad. They are what they are. Nonetheless, as stated earlier, I was at 252, when I pulled it off back in '05.
If I can get back to the mid-240s, I may be able to do it again, this time (hopefully) there will be no 40+ waist.
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Oh my - you 2 still spatting?
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u reckon anythign over 300 lbs is pretty impressive?
300lbs is a solid bench espec for guys under 200lbs. Id be impressed for most guys who bench that with good form.
400lbs is a rare bench press number, its rarer to see a 230lb guy press 400lbs than a 160lb guy press 300 i think
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only if you mean dumbbells, come on
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You didn't mention your bodyweight. If you're at 200 lb (91 kg), that's a mere 182 grams of protein.
If size is your goal, you're going to need WAY more than that. Usually the rule of thumb is 1 gram per lb. of bodyweight, as a starting point. You can adjust from there.
During my college years, my protein intake was over 300 grams a day, with an overall caloric intake exceeding 5000. It took that much just to get me over 200 lbs.
Come on as if this made a difference. ::)
Just calculate what your basic protein need is (without training) and add 25%. That's enough.
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Come on as if this made a difference. ::)
Just calculate what your basic protein need is (without training) and add 25%. That's enough.
And, what if it's not (which it wasn't for me and may not be for Deicide)?
I needed more calories and protein. I ate (and drank) more calories and protein. I ended getting bigger and stronger.
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Funniest thing happened at my gym, a guy I knew always claimed natural, said he had no way to hide gear from his wife. He comes to the gym one day and asks me for a spot, proceeds to knock out a few warm-up reps on flat bench then proceeds to knock out 10 reps with 405. He then goes to the incline bb press and starts beating up the weight on presses. The guy then had the nerve to show me the inside of his gym bag filled with Gaspari supplements and wanted me to believe that was his secret. ALL THE WAY FUCKIN DOUCHBAG.
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And, what if it's not (which it wasn't for me and may not be for Deicide)?
I needed more calories and protein. I ate (and drank) more calories and protein. I ended getting bigger and stronger.
Maybe your training changed in some way? Gained confidence in yourself from that overeating?
Just fuck calories. Your body tells you when it needs nutrients. Eat when you are hungry.
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400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.
in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.
anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.
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400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.
in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.
anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.
Absolutely correct.
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Maybe your training changed in some way? Gained confidence in yourself from that overeating?
Just fuck calories. Your body tells you when it needs nutrients. Eat when you are hungry.
Been there; done that; DIDN'T WORK!!!
You don't gain size, unless you consume more calories than you burn, pure and simple. And you don't get stronger unless your body recuperates from training. That's basic stuff.
The calories and protein I mentioned earlier is what it took to get me over 200 lbs years ago. In fact, I actually exceeded my goal. I simply wanted to hit 200 (from 189). I ended up at 210.
As I've said before, Ronnie Coleman's infamous saying, regarding lifting weights, can equally be applied to diet and nutrition.
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Been there; done that; DIDN'T WORK!!!
You don't gain size, unless you consume more calories than you burn, pure and simple. And you don't get stronger unless your body recuperates from training. That's basic stuff.
The calories and protein I mentioned earlier is what it took to get me over 200 lbs years ago. In fact, I actually exceeded my goal. I simply wanted to hit 200 (from 189). I ended up at 210.
If I don't eat at least 3500 calories a day I don't grow. 5'11" 245 currently 34" /36 depends waist.
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I'm more impressed with the guy who can bench 150 but looks good and is able to pull mad pussy.
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I'm more impressed with the guy who can bench 150 but looks good and is able to pull mad pussy.
Right on! Who cares about a ugly nasty sweating dude benching 400?
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400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.
in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.
anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.
I can assure you 500 is possible without juice. Very uncommon obviously, but possible.
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Right on! Who cares about a ugly nasty sweating dude benching 400?
Seriously, sometimes I wonder why some guys workout. I mean if it isn't for pussy then what for? Some kind of homosexual thing ???
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depends on his body weight!
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other than the 400lb bench, which is very impressive btw...dont let anyone tell you it isnt.
the other part of this thread is an awesome tit for tat ownage of deicide by mcway.
i cant recall such a complete and utter domination of someone who is obviously a mentally deprived moron sinc ehte Chick and KK days i the early 2000s.
mcway you gotta lay off him though now mate, its like pissing on a homeless man.
he cant help that he wasnt blessed with brains, and from what i can tell, brawn either. just let him be sad and bitter.
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other than the 400lb bench, which is very impressive btw...dont let anyone tell you it isnt.
the other part of this thread is an awesome tit for tat ownage of deicide by mcway.
i cant recall such a complete and utter domination of someone who is obviously a mentally deprived moron sinc ehte Chick and KK days i the early 2000s.
mcway you gotta lay off him though now mate, its like pissing on a homeless man.
he cant help that he wasnt blessed with brains, and from what i can tell, brawn either. just let him be sad and bitter.
Brains I do have, not lacking in that department but would you be saying these things if you knew MCWAY believed the world is 6,000 years old and that talking snakes and magic apples of knowledge are as real as rabbits? Or that people commit crime because of 'Original Sin' because our 'ancestors' Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of knowledge? No one who believes in such silliness can own anyone.
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I'm more impressed with the guy who can bench 150 but looks good and is able to pull mad pussy.
QFT
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If I don't eat at least 3500 calories a day I don't grow. 5'11" 245 currently 34" /36 depends waist.
Wow didnt know we had lee haney onboard
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Wow didnt know we had lee haney onboard
I have done the super caloric overload thing but I just ended up getting super fat. I think 500 extra calories is fine, no need to eat 5000...at least for me.
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I would say your problem is being impatient. Maybe your trianing isnt ideal but consistency and eating should always produce gains in some sort.
I have been saying this for ages but I genuinley think ill hit a 400lb bench this year. Prob be 240+ when I do it though
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I would say your problem is being impatient. Maybe your trianing isnt ideal but consistency and eating should always produce gains in some sort.
I have been saying this for ages but I genuinley think ill hit a 400lb bench this year. Prob be 240+ when I do it though
Yeah, I think I am impatient. After the end of this HST routine I may be able to report some weight progress.
The truth is, it is good enough for me if I just make progress for myself. I will never be a huge, strong beast but if I can make a litte progress most of the time, it's enough.
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There is so so so so much more important thinhgs than beiong big or strong. Yes its nice but its not the be all or end all
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There is so so so so much more important thinhgs than beiong big or strong. Yes its nice but its not the be all or end all
I agree.
Next year I want to try to get a decent, stable job some place and stay there at least two years and work on my lifts and stuff, make progress but more importantly I want to work on my career and education. Seriously considering a PhD now...
Ursus, you are the man! 8)
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LOL apprecite it man.
I am struggling to get a FT job atm - so many people going in for every job. The goverment jobs i have been accepted for i am on a waiting list. Sucks.
I need to get my life/career on track
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LOL apprecite it man.
I am struggling to get a FT job atm - so many people going in for every job. The goverment jobs i have been accepted for i am on a waiting list. Sucks.
I need to get my life/career on track
Well, even if the job thing doesn't work out, you are still on Team Good Genetics! ;)
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It's a good lift but like I always say these things are relative
But it depends on the individual really I saw a lil dude maxing on 225 this week watching him you could tell he put everything into the lift no hands pulling the bar off him. Struggled like hell to me that's impressive a hard HONEST bench
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Brains I do have, not lacking in that department but would you be saying these things if you knew MCWAY believed the world is 6,000 years old and that talking snakes and magic apples of knowledge are as real as rabbits? Or that people commit crime because of 'Original Sin' because our 'ancestors' Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of knowledge? No one who believes in such silliness can own anyone.
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What do my beliefs about the age of the planet have to do with your continuing to feel sorry for yourself, making every excuse in the book for your lack of personal progress? Even by your standards, this is pathetic.
But, it's standard procedure for you. When you can't make your points or arguments stick, you resort to potshots and name-calling. That does nothing but make your arguments look even weaker and, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't help you ONE BIT, as far as improving your physique is concerned.
I have done the super caloric overload thing but I just ended up getting super fat. I think 500 extra calories is fine, no need to eat 5000...at least for me.
Nobody claimed you had to eat 5000 calories. Since you didn't give your bodyweight, it's tough to tell how much protein you're actually consuming. Let's assume you weigh 200 lb (91 kg). By your account, you consume 182 grams of protein. That's obviously not enough, if you aren't growing.
That's not even the standard 1 g/lb bodyweight in protein consumption. You might want to boost that to 1.5 g/lb of bodyweight, which is 300 grams of protein (assuming you currently weigh 200).
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Seriously, sometimes I wonder why some guys workout. I mean if it isn't for pussy then what for? Some kind of homosexual thing ???
No one sticks with working out, just to get girls. It takes too long to get the physique.
Impressing girls is what gets you in the gym; but it's not what keeps you in the gym.
For many, it's the personal challenge of improving your physique and/or increasing your strength. That can morph into getting to bodybuilding/powerlifting/strongman competition. After a while, it just becomes fun and you do it for its own sake.
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Yeah, I think I am impatient. After the end of this HST routine I may be able to report some weight progress.
The truth is, it is good enough for me if I just make progress for myself. I will never be a huge, strong beast but if I can make a litte progress most of the time, it's enough.
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And, therein lies part of the problem. Your goals are too VAGUE.
Define "progress". For example, what is your bodyweight now? What do you want it to be six months from now?
Same goes for your lifts (at least, the bench press; you expressed no interest in squats or deadlifts).
You get some specific goals, a diet and training program to help reach those goals, and some good old-fashioned motivation and determination; and you're in business.
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And, therein lies part of the problem. Your goals are too VAGUE.
Define "progress". For example, what is your bodyweight now? What do you want it to be six months from now?
Same goes for your lifts (at least, the bench press; you expressed no interest in squats or deadlifts).
You get some specific goals, a diet and training program to help reach those goals, and some good old-fashioned motivation and determination; and you're in business.
My deadlift is fine as is my squat. I mention bench because it is lacking compared to other basic exercises.
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My deadlift is fine as is my squat. I mention bench because it is lacking compared to other basic exercises.
Some people just suck at benching, no matter how hard they try.
A good friend of mine has been training hard for over 10 years, but he still can't bench 315 even at 240 pounds. Yet i've seen him deadlift 545 very easily for 3 reps and he squats 455 ass to grass for 2 reps. Natural as well.
A 405 bench is VERY good for anyone under 300 pounds who is a true natural. I have only met one guy who pressed 405 at 198 under very strict drug testing rules.
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My deadlift is fine as is my squat. I mention bench because it is lacking compared to other basic exercises.
You still didn't mention your current bodyweight or any specific goals over the next 3 to 6 months.
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I would say your problem is being impatient. Maybe your trianing isnt ideal but consistency and eating should always produce gains in some sort.
I have been saying this for ages but I genuinley think ill hit a 400lb bench this year. Prob be 240+ when I do it though
I plan to do it this year at 210 ;)
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Impossible....PLEASE!!!!!
Furthermore, benching 405 is hardly an indicator of having an Arnold-esque physique (mine is nowhere near like his).
Your gay. Before the weights were taken out of the California penitentaries (pre-1998'), I witnessed more than a few individuals bench press over 400lbs. I would have never believed the genetics that some of these guys had unless I had witnessed it myself. Some of the physiques in there were unbelievable as well.
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Your gay. Before the weights were taken out of the California penitentaries (pre-1998'), I witnessed more than a few individuals bench press over 400lbs. I would have never believed the genetics that some of these guys had unless I had witnessed it myself. Some of the physiques in there were unbelievable as well.
You're the one, coming out of the slammer, looking at guys with "unbelievable physiques" and marvelling at their "genetics".
And you're calling me gay?
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You're the one, coming out of the slammer, looking at guys with "unbelievable physiques" and marvelling at their "genetics".
And you're calling me gay?
Just an observation fag man
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Just an observation fag man
Look who’s talking!! You probably found out just how “genetically gifted” your fellow cell mates were, after dropping the soap, one time too many.
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Some people just suck at benching, no matter how hard they try.
A good friend of mine has been training hard for over 10 years, but he still can't bench 315 even at 240 pounds. Yet i've seen him deadlift 545 very easily for 3 reps and he squats 455 ass to grass for 2 reps. Natural as well.
A 405 bench is VERY good for anyone under 300 pounds who is a true natural. I have only met one guy who pressed 405 at 198 under very strict drug testing rules.
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2 people in my gym can press 400lbs.
1. a 288lbs monster
2. a freak 20year old bench presser
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bill anton was the 13 th man to bench press 400, my kid was the 1,000,000,000 so no not that impressive. he did 3 reps with it so no big deal.. right. weighed 220.
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i forgot to add mike kuhns who weighs 130 lbs did a 451 bench last weekend. woooooow.
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Not for the average getbigger.
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THIS is impressive:
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i forgot to add mike kuhns who weighs 130 lbs did a 451 bench last weekend. woooooow.
You also to forgot to mention the springboard shirt that he was wearing. 450 would crush him without that shirt.
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THIS is impressive:
Nipple implants....so obvious.
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315 for a couple of reps seems to be about the strongest natural lifts at my gym. All the guys i've seen do 400 plus are enhanced.
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i forgot to add mike kuhns who weighs 130 lbs did a 451 bench last weekend. woooooow.
Just read that Mike did a 622lbs squat @ 137lbs
SIK guy!!!! 8)
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i did 365, 405, then 425 in a competition last year,,,all natural, NO shirt ( just a t-shirt)
strict form, pause, no bounce, all that
not that big of a deal
i'm 5'8 was 218 then,,,about 221 now
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My gym is typically average of a free weights gym.
12 people MAX bench over 300lbs with good form
12 out of maybe 120 members
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Just read that Mike did a 622lbs squat @ 137lbs
SIK ####!!!! 8)
at the meet where he did the 451 bench he made a 595 squat and a 392 dl for a 1438 total all within the confines of the 132 lb class.
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Some people just suck at benching, no matter how hard they try.
A good friend of mine has been training hard for over 10 years, but he still can't bench 315 even at 240 pounds. Yet i've seen him deadlift 545 very easily for 3 reps and he squats 455 ass to grass for 2 reps. Natural as well.
A 405 bench is VERY good for anyone under 300 pounds who is a true natural. I have only met one guy who pressed 405 at 198 under very strict drug testing rules.
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absolutely correct. dude. my bench is crap compared to my other lifts. i mean, its decent but thats because ive trained for years..but its about 150lb lower than it would be if it was well suited to my levers. i actually bench more on the incline than flat, and military press almost as much as i bench. for some reason, i lift a boatload on legs and calves. i dont train much anymore but even when i had 20 inch arms, my arm lifts werent extraordinary by any means.
conversely ive got mates who dont have my size but lift big weights at low bodyweight in all exercises.
bench is a poor gauge of physical ability, overall strength, or determination of size.
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You're the one, coming out of the slammer, looking at guys with "unbelievable physiques" and marvelling at their "genetics".
And you're calling me gay?
Dont' have a hissy fit just because you got a weak bench girly man
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Brains I do have, not lacking in that department but would you be saying these things if you knew MCWAY believed the world is 6,000 years old and that talking snakes and magic apples of knowledge are as real as rabbits? Or that people commit crime because of 'Original Sin' because our 'ancestors' Adam and Eve partook of the fruit of knowledge? No one who believes in such silliness can own anyone.
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400lb-bench press natural is "very impresive"/very strong. you should be proud of that.
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i did 365, 405, then 425 in a competition last year,,,all natural, NO shirt ( just a t-shirt)
strict form, pause, no bounce, all that
not that big of a deal
i'm 5'8 was 218 then,,,about 221 now
Awesome lifts bro especially in comp with the pause. In the gym you would prob hit 450 easy. How old when you did it?
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Took me five years to get up to 315 for a few reps and gains are getting smaller and smaller.
I'm sure there are people out there with much better genetics than me though.
I saw a YouTube video of a Norwegian world champ javelin thrower that did 405 for a single and he's tested year around. Also what makes it more impressive is that he's below 225 bw
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I did 400 when I was 17. Bix has the artical from 1981 from a chest routine I did for Muscle Digest in 1981, I think it was the december issue with Tim Belknap on the cover.
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I did 400 when I was 17. Bix has the artical from 1981 from a chest routine I did for Muscle Digest in 1981, I think it was the december issue with Tim Belknap on the cover.
pics and 3 witnesses or bullshit
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Damn, said 1981 twice.
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how much do u reckon jesus could bench, JME?
the earth, jupiter, pluto?
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Damn, said 1981 twice.
Why don't you just go back in time and videotape it, that's what i would do.
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I did 400 when I was 17. Bix has the artical from 1981 from a chest routine I did for Muscle Digest in 1981, I think it was the december issue with Tim Belknap on the cover.
It was me who posted the pics and the article Joe.They are somewhere on here floating about if someone wants to search,i don`t have them anymore,they were on my old computer that got wiped out with a virus called BSOD.
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been in gyms for eight years never seen a natural lifter bench 400
HTH
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100% natural
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I did 400 when I was 17. Bix has the artical from 1981 from a chest routine I did for Muscle Digest in 1981, I think it was the december issue with Tim Belknap on the cover.
ever tear a pec muscle
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Yes, but not until I was 40.
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Never seen a natural do it in all the gyms I've been a member of.
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I did 400 when I was 17. Bix has the artical from 1981 from a chest routine I did for Muscle Digest in 1981, I think it was the december issue with Tim Belknap on the cover.
How old were you when you benched 535@180lbs?
400 @ 17 yrs old has to be some kind of world record....you must have a pic or some sort of documentation for either.
benching 4 wheels for anyone is impressive.
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does the pope fondle little boys?
dude...not cool...hilarious...but not cool...
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Yes, but not until I was 40.
were u on gear at 17?
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Duh, yeah. And rare enough; I've never seen one.
i knew someone in college that did 405.....Middle linebacker Andre Warrem...he was black as shit...we called him Daywalker..
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were u on gear at 17?
no he just used the power of prayer and god helped him with the lift.....that and a multi vitamin
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i did 365, 405, then 425 in a competition last year,,,all natural, NO shirt ( just a t-shirt)
strict form, pause, no bounce, all that
not that big of a deal
i'm 5'8 was 218 then,,,about 221 now
:D
epic liar plus outing yourself as a juicer
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How old were you when you benched 535@180lbs?
400 @ 17 yrs old has to be some kind of world record....you must have a pic or some sort of documentation for either.
benching 4 wheels for anyone is impressive.
SS, his "proof" is some article in a bodybuilding rag......and you KNOW they never exaggerated claims, use fake plates, etc....
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SS, his "proof" is some article in a bodybuilding rag......and you KNOW they never exaggerated claims, use fake plates, etc....
All I know is if I was benching 400lbs @ 17 yrs old, then benching 535lbs shirtless @ 185lbs all while being clean..... I would def make sure to have some kind of documentation, video or even a pic.
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All I know is if I was benching 400lbs @ 17 yrs old, then benching 535lbs shirtless @ 185lbs all while being clean..... I would def make sure to have some kind of documentation, video or even a pic.
But The Couch shuns the spotlight and attention SS. ;D
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All I know is if I was benching 400lbs @ 17 yrs old, then benching 535lbs shirtless @ 185lbs all while being clean..... I would def make sure to have some kind of documentation, video or even a pic.
Coach is so old that when he was 17 there was no such thing as cameras.
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Coach is so old that when he was 17 there was no such thing as cameras.
haha, maybe there is a cave drawing of it? ;D
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How old were you when you benched 535@180lbs?
400 @ 17 yrs old has to be some kind of world record....you must have a pic or some sort of documentation for either.
benching 4 wheels for anyone is impressive.
I was 23-24 with the 535. The 400 was done in the gym, it wasn't a one time lift, it was done on a pretty regular basis. At that time I was training with Rory, a dude named Eddie Holms and Ellis "spanky" Evans. We were training at Olympus Gym in Whittier and Montebello and Muscle Digest gym. Donald and Gordon Wong were there as well as Lou Zwick.
The Ugly is also friends with someone who saw my lifts. The Ugly, you know who I am referring to!
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haha, maybe there is a cave drawing of it? ;D
It's a possibility that he really did it,after all he's so short his ROM is probably 1 inch :D
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haha, maybe there is a cave drawing of it? ;D
ROTFLMAO........hahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha.....one liner of the day, hahahahahaha ;D
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ROTFLMAO........hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....one liner of the day, hahahahahaha ;D
haha, you know we just love busting your balls ! ;D
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That's very impressive lift. The all time world record for the 181lb weight class raw stands at 556lbs by Rick Weli in 1986, so you were only 21lbs less. Your age is also impressive as most people aren't near their peak strenght that young.
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That's very impressive lift. The all time world record for the 181lb weight class raw stands at 556lbs by Rick Weli in 1986, so you were only 21lbs less. Your age is also impressive as most people aren't near their peak strenght that young.
is that sarcasm?
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is that sarcasm?
Id fuck your sister
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Id fuck your sister
id fuck your mom..and grandmother...and sister if you have one...aunt too
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Id fuck your sister
you would try and probably end up with her fucking you in the ass with a huge black strap on rape style
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you would try and probably end up with her fucking you in the ass with a huge black strap on rape style
:-X
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My father threw up 400lb at age 15 back in the mid sixties.
paused for 10 seconds at the bottom and was laughing the whole time.
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My father through up 400lb at age 15 back in the mid sixties.
paused for 10 seconds at the bottom and was laughing the whole time.
did he beat up "Mr Glass"
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:-X
okami talks very big ... whatch out...he'll beat you up
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okami talks very big ... whatch out...he'll beat you up
im shaking
im terrified
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Thumbless grip by Brucey.
I benched 325x5 on my own yesterday feeling very run down. 330x5 I think I have in me.
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yep...bruce with some solid reps there......but you got guys like coach thats not even a superhero doin that shit on a regular basis like it's nothin ;D....
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My father threw up 400lb at age 15 back in the mid sixties.
paused for 10 seconds at the bottom and was laughing the whole time.
;D ;D
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okami talks very big ... whatch out...he'll beat you up
Youre the scumbag who said you were coming here and wud fight me,then refused to say when you were coming,you laughable ccunt
im shaking black
im terrified lacking any muscle definition whatsoever
Yes,you are correct
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Funny, for the doubters on here think about this. Out of the hundreds of thousands of gyms in America, don't you think that there are people out there that throw up HUGE weight everyday that no one even knows about? Just because they aren't in record books doesn't mean they don't exist. As far as I'm concerned, the one ones in the record books are fraction of the lifters who can put up big numbers.
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I was 23-24 with the 535. The 400 was done in the gym, it wasn't a one time lift, it was done on a pretty regular basis. At that time I was training with Rory, a dude named Eddie Holms and Ellis "spanky" Evans. We were training at Olympus Gym in Whittier and Montebello and Muscle Digest gym. Donald and Gordon Wong were there as well as Lou Zwick.
The Ugly is also friends with someone who saw my lifts. The Ugly, you know who I am referring to!
Shit! You must of been a beast once you hit your prime.........I'd say you were at least pressing 700lbs raw and 900 shirted by the time you hit 30..........You are simply amazing!
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Shit! You must of been a beast once you hit your prime.........I'd say you were at least pressing 700lbs raw and 900 shirted by the time you hit 30..........You are simply amazing!
This thread is as full of shit as the one about the military press, but 2 guys at "Get Serious" did over 400 as naturals while we were there. Pat Holloway did it, and the other guy, I forget his name, that tore his achilles. Do you know who I'm talking about? I don't know how much Pat did raw, but he did over 6 with a bench shirt on.
Edited to add: Just remembered his name. John Peru.
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BTW, in answer to the original question, 405 as a natural is damn good.
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In my prime I was doing 12000 for reps. But that's just me :)
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This thread is as full of shit as the one about the military press, but 2 guys at "Get Serious" did over 400 as naturals while we were there. Pat Holloway did it, and the other guy, I forget his name, that tore his achilles. Do you know who I'm talking about? I don't know how much Pat did raw, but he did over 6 with a bench shirt on.
Edited to add: Just remembered his name. John Peru.
Yeah and those were state records....Mark Stanford just did a shirted 555@ 49 years old, not sure if you remember him.
Yeah I forgot to tell you BNM that we have some real underground strongman here on Get real. Get Big.
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I saw Tom Klitzke do a 500 bench off 1 board at 165 lbs raw in that same time frame. Damn impressive. His best was 465 if I remember right.
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In my prime I was doing 12000 for reps. But that's just me :)
This thread is about what is possible natural. No offence but what is really your personal experience of that?
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Yeah and those were state records....Mark Stanford just did a shirted 555@ 49 years old, not sure if you remember him.
Yeah I forgot to tell you BNM that we have some real underground strongman here on Get real. Get Big.
I remember him, but I didn't know if he was natural. Pat and Peru are.
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I remember him, but I didn't know if he was natural. Pat and Peru are.
Well if you remember, we were at Marks house right down the street from mine talking business and he said that he lifts in a natty fed but he gets away with a little help from time to time.
Shit I member Tom..............Kid was a beast!
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I got a friemd 5'6-7" about 15-20% bf 28y/o that can bench 405 for 2-3 but he is insulin dependent diabetic. Is that natural?
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My mate at 20 and sub 220lbs genuinely ahd a strict and natural 400lb bench press. Drug tested a few times I think. Definatley once.
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Duh, yeah. And rare enough; I've never seen one.
I did it from age 23 to age 28 My max was 445 x 2( I got hurt when did 2nd rep) never were able to handle 405 witouth pain again...
good thing i didnt tear my chest !
WOOOSSSSSHHHHHHHH
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I did it from age 23 to age 28
Continuously? Now that's impressive.
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I got a friend 5'6-7" about 15-20% bf 28y/o that can bench 405 for 2-3 but he is insulin dependent diabetic. Is that natural?
Ha I got a bud who is the same. Sounds almost like a clone of my friend 5'7"-8", 25yrs old diabetic. Benches around 425-440, is that natural or can they manipulate their insulin injections to help. Its not like a nondiabetic takin insulin whats the deal? Very curious. The answer to the question 405 natural is very impressive , to me at least. Not uncommon though. Has everyone become so jaded about juice that you forget what great genetics get you or even how some people are built for bench. I always been destined to suck at bench, 6'1" with a armspan like someone 6'4"-5". I abandoned flat a long time ago for incline and every once in awhile I get curious and do flat and am always disappointed.
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This thread is about what is possible natural. No offence but what is really your personal experience of that?
Natural, I think only around 9000lbs!
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hell yes it is. shit, 400 is good for a juicer too.
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Yes, impressive bench.
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If you're a 400 pounds slob who has pre-ordered his piano case for his funeral... no!