Is a 400lbs natural bench press impressive?

[MCWAY]

AT LEAST 2 grams per kg of body weight, usually more. I use a wide grip.

You didn't mention your bodyweight. If you're at 200 lb (91 kg), that's a mere 182 grams of protein.

If size is your goal, you're going to need WAY more than that. Usually the rule of thumb is 1 gram per lb. of bodyweight, as a starting point. You can adjust from there.

During my college years, my protein intake was over 300 grams a day, with an overall caloric intake exceeding 5000. It took that much just to get me over 200 lbs.

[Mr Nobody]

no, its a shit lift 

Yea a pitifull lift.

[gooer]

what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.

[Ursus]

Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts

Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs

[haider]

Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts

Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs

u reckon anythign over 300 lbs is pretty impressive?

[polychronopolous]

what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.

 

[MCWAY]

what are you guys talking about.. 405 natural is ridiculous. anyone who pressed 8 plates natty would be the next coming of arnold (at a reasonable bodyfat). it's damn near impossible though so this question is really pointless.

Impossible....PLEASE!!!!!

Furthermore, benching 405 is hardly an indicator of having an Arnold-esque physique (mine is nowhere near like his).

[MCWAY]

Far from impossible but heavy heavy guys over 220 with very good genetics and consistent trianing will be there or thereabouts

Few good benchers in my gym around 180-190 and they are pressing 350-60lbs

Indeed!!!

I don't consider my genetics good or bad. They are what they are. Nonetheless, as stated earlier, I was at 252, when I pulled it off back in '05.

If I can get back to the mid-240s, I may be able to do it again, this time (hopefully) there will be no 40+ waist.

[JimmyJam1974]

Oh my - you 2 still spatting?

[Ursus]

u reckon anythign over 300 lbs is pretty impressive?

300lbs is a solid bench espec for guys under 200lbs. Id be impressed for most guys who bench that with good form.

400lbs is a rare bench press number, its rarer to see a 230lb guy press 400lbs than a 160lb guy press 300 i think

[FREAKgeek]

only if you mean dumbbells, come on

[#1 Klaus fan]

You didn't mention your bodyweight. If you're at 200 lb (91 kg), that's a mere 182 grams of protein.

If size is your goal, you're going to need WAY more than that. Usually the rule of thumb is 1 gram per lb. of bodyweight, as a starting point. You can adjust from there.

During my college years, my protein intake was over 300 grams a day, with an overall caloric intake exceeding 5000. It took that much just to get me over 200 lbs.

Come on as if this made a difference. 

Just calculate what your basic protein need is (without training) and add 25%. That's enough.

[MCWAY]

Come on as if this made a difference. 

Just calculate what your basic protein need is (without training) and add 25%. That's enough.

And, what if it's not (which it wasn't for me and may not be for Deicide)?

I needed more calories and protein. I ate (and drank) more calories and protein. I ended getting bigger and stronger.

[elite_lifter]

Funniest thing happened at my gym, a guy I knew always claimed natural, said he had no way to hide gear from his wife. He comes to the gym one day and asks me for a spot, proceeds to knock out a few warm-up reps on flat bench then proceeds to knock out 10 reps with 405. He then goes to the incline bb press and starts beating up the weight on presses. The guy then had the nerve to show me the inside of his gym bag filled with Gaspari supplements and wanted me to believe that was his secret. ALL THE WAY FUCKIN DOUCHBAG.

[#1 Klaus fan]

And, what if it's not (which it wasn't for me and may not be for Deicide)?

I needed more calories and protein. I ate (and drank) more calories and protein. I ended getting bigger and stronger.

Maybe your training changed in some way? Gained confidence in yourself from that overeating?

Just fuck calories. Your body tells you when it needs nutrients. Eat when you are hungry.

[JOHN MATRIX]

400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.

in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.

anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.

[#1 Klaus fan]

400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.

in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.

anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.

Absolutely correct.

[MCWAY]

Maybe your training changed in some way? Gained confidence in yourself from that overeating?

Just fuck calories. Your body tells you when it needs nutrients. Eat when you are hungry.

Been there; done that; DIDN'T WORK!!!

You don't gain size, unless you consume more calories than you burn, pure and simple. And you don't get stronger unless your body recuperates from training. That's basic stuff.

The calories and protein I mentioned earlier is what it took to get me over 200 lbs years ago. In fact, I actually exceeded my goal. I simply wanted to hit 200 (from 189). I ended up at 210.

As I've said before, Ronnie Coleman's infamous saying, regarding lifting weights, can equally be applied to diet and nutrition.

[elite_lifter]

Been there; done that; DIDN'T WORK!!!

You don't gain size, unless you consume more calories than you burn, pure and simple. And you don't get stronger unless your body recuperates from training. That's basic stuff.

The calories and protein I mentioned earlier is what it took to get me over 200 lbs years ago. In fact, I actually exceeded my goal. I simply wanted to hit 200 (from 189). I ended up at 210.

If I don't eat at least 3500 calories a day I don't grow. 5'11" 245 currently 34" /36 depends waist.

[calfzilla]

I'm more impressed with the guy who can bench 150 but looks good and is able to pull mad pussy.  

[Mr Nobody]

I'm more impressed with the guy who can bench 150 but looks good and is able to pull mad pussy.  

Right on! Who cares about a ugly nasty sweating dude benching 400?

[liquid_c]

400lb can only be reached by an extremely tiny genetic elite of naturals.

in fact id say its pretty much right around the limit for a non-juicer.

anyone saying otherwise is full of shit.

I can assure you 500 is possible without juice.  Very uncommon obviously, but possible. 

[calfzilla]

Right on! Who cares about a ugly nasty sweating dude benching 400?

Seriously, sometimes I wonder why some guys workout.  I mean if it isn't for pussy then what for?  Some kind of homosexual thing 

[Sherief Shalaby]

?

depends on his body weight!

[disco_stu]

other than the 400lb bench, which is very impressive btw...dont let anyone tell you it isnt.

the other part of this thread is an awesome tit for tat ownage of deicide by mcway.

i cant recall such a complete and utter domination of someone who is obviously a mentally deprived moron sinc ehte Chick and KK days i the early 2000s.

mcway you gotta lay off him though now mate, its like pissing on a homeless man.

he cant help that he wasnt blessed with brains, and from what i can tell, brawn either. just let him be sad and bitter.