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Title: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 23, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???
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Post by: gordiano on June 23, 2009, 11:59:22 PM
Masturbation.
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Post by: MB_722 on June 23, 2009, 11:59:34 PM
masturbation
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Post by: MethodGNA on June 24, 2009, 12:02:26 AM
didnt you just make a post last night that you got diagnosed with OCD.......getbig might be a great place to turn for a quick snicker, or the requisite bodybuilder's camaraderie.........but im not sure this is the primary source you should be consuting for your mental health advice. ??? ???
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Alex23 on June 24, 2009, 12:19:19 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

There are plenty my brother:

5-HTP is probably the fastest acting and most reliable. 100mg will do the trick. Closely followed by L-tryptophan but make many people sleepy.

GABA is also very helpful but more of "maintenance/long term" supplement but it will really help maintaining your dopamine levels.

Also plenty of fish oil will really help but again, takes a while to kick in.

The nastiest is St-John Wort; very good but hard on the liver and will make your skin photo sensitive.

If you have night anxiety, 3-5mg of melatonin will help.


Hope this helps.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: gordiano on June 24, 2009, 12:20:58 AM
didnt you just make a post last night that you got diagnosed with OCD.......getbig might be a great place to turn for a quick snicker, or the requisite bodybuilder's camaraderie.........but im not sure this is the primary source you should be consuting for your mental health advice. ??? ???

Hard to believe, but we have a couple of Docs who post here from time to time.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 12:23:28 AM
read alex's post above... this is why i come here for advice ... no one knows more about natural supplements than BB....
i asked my doctor about supplements and all he gave me the pharmaceutical run around .... tired of that shit  >:(

thank you much alex
didnt you just make a post last night that you got diagnosed with OCD.......getbig might be a great place to turn for a quick snicker, or the requisite bodybuilder's camaraderie.........but im not sure this is the primary source you should be consuting for your mental health advice. ??? ???
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: webcake on June 24, 2009, 12:23:59 AM
suicide...

j/k. Do you get any form of panic attacks? Anxiety is a somewhat broad term, as it can vary from person to person.....
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: England_1 on June 24, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
I couldn't help ya out with supps per se, but if you feel an attack coming on or are having one I'm sure you know, slow down your breathing, and stick a paper bag over your mouth.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 12:25:31 AM
suicide...

j/k. Do you get any form of panic attacks? Anxiety is a somewhat broad term, as it can vary from person to person.....

yeah panic attacks ended up in the ER room twice for hypertensive crisis...
mostly its a non stop fear of impending doom  :(

and its been taking control of my life as of late...
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Post by: England_1 on June 24, 2009, 12:27:29 AM
some benzos or buspirone would do you good.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 12:28:57 AM
some benzos or buspirone would do you good.

im on xanax but hope not to be on it for too long.. i would just like to try natural things before i comply with drugs
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Alex23 on June 24, 2009, 12:31:19 AM
read alex's post above... this is why i come here for advice ... no one knows more about natural supplements than BB....
i asked my doctor about supplements and all he gave me the pharmaceutical run around .... tired of that shit  >:(
thank you much alex

I sincerly hope it helps bench; there are plenty of OTC stuff that will really make you feel better; dont fall for the paxil/zoloft/SSRI too fast, many milder ways to raise serotonin/dopamine the nutritional way. In most cases, stress caused you to be deficient in certain micro nutrients; the supplements above will help bring the balance.

I have been there my brother; over worked, stressful & thraumatising ecosystem. 90% of the time, it's not necessarily the way you are wired but attributed to how "toxic" your envrionment you live/lived in is/was...

Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: England_1 on June 24, 2009, 12:35:22 AM
have you learned to control your breathing or not?
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Post by: heavyNbasic on June 24, 2009, 12:40:36 AM
EFT.

http://www.emofree.com/ (http://www.emofree.com/)

Lots on youtube as well.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 12:43:06 AM
have you learned to control your breathing or not?

Tried meditation kinda helped some
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Post by: webcake on June 24, 2009, 12:44:12 AM
Taking the natural/holistic approach may be a very good idea.

As mentioned, look into some breathing/relaxation techniques. It may sound kind of "hippy-ish" but some of that shit seems to work for me. Just simple things like lying in a dark, quiet room and really focusing on slow, deep breathing. Calms you right down and kinda leaves you feeling refreshed.
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Post by: Meso_z on June 24, 2009, 01:04:22 AM
Hard to believe, but we have a couple of Docs who post here from time to time.

Everone is a "doc" on the internet.  :D
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on June 24, 2009, 02:03:15 AM
Your best bet is cognitive behavioral therapy. It aims to break the cycle of thoughts that lead to or strengthen your anxiety.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: gib on June 24, 2009, 02:14:52 AM
GHB in small doses might be OK (but not a good long term solution). Best to focus on the pyschology - eg what is the underlying cause, rather than to treat chemically.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 24, 2009, 02:21:39 AM
There are plenty my brother:

5-HTP is probably the fastest acting and most reliable. 100mg will do the trick. Closely followed by L-tryptophan but make many people sleepy.

GABA is also very helpful but more of "maintenance/long term" supplement but it will really help maintaining your dopamine levels.

Also plenty of fish oil will really help but again, takes a while to kick in.

The nastiest is St-John Wort; very good but hard on the liver and will make your skin photo sensitive.

If you have night anxiety, 3-5mg of melatonin will help.


Hope this helps.

Fuck...I didn't know St. Johns Wort had so many drawbacks. I take that stuff quite a bit.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: MethodGNA on June 24, 2009, 02:48:50 AM
GHB in small doses might be OK (but not a good long term solution). Best to focus on the pyschology - eg what is the underlying cause, rather than to treat chemically.

bingo....best anti-anxiety medication i know ;) ;)
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 24, 2009, 05:05:06 AM
.. i would just like to try natural things before i comply with drugs

I have a tried a bunch of herbals and the one I like most is ashwaghanda. L-theanine may help also.

Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: CalvinH on June 24, 2009, 06:03:59 AM
Snort an 8-ball.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: uberman09 on June 24, 2009, 08:19:32 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

A psycahanalyst.

Anxiety always results from personality disorders that have to be identified then balanced.

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Post by: jon cole on June 24, 2009, 08:20:28 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

positive thinking.
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Post by: Tapeworm on June 24, 2009, 08:27:16 AM
Laughter!



Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: jpm101 on June 24, 2009, 09:05:39 AM
Brain wave programs, like Hemi-sync (Robert Monroe), Brain Syns, SoundMind, etc. Idea is to balance the hemispheres of the right & left sides of the brain and in so doing place the mind in a open state to take advantage of it's full potential. Keeping it simple, white noise is usually the main influence with these types of brain wave programs. Can mimic a level of meditation, hypnosis, controled dreams or other suggestive forms. Excellent for reduced stress and gaining very deep relaxation, if that be the main goal. Will need a quality headset with a MP3, DVD player or even a PC.

If not into that, than meditation by all means. TM is probably the best for common goal of stress reduction. Pretty easy to do. True Yoga meditations more advance forms, like Kundalini, require more effort for the average person. Highlights breathing, mantra's and flexibility of the spine.

Can also try iDoser for dozens of brain wave programs and not you average brain wave programs. A whole different world to explore from getting the feel of being on drugs to spiritual feelings. Also need a good quality headset & player.

Most of this stuff is found on Torrents or there are a few download site that offer demo tapes.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: emn1964 on June 24, 2009, 09:08:34 AM
just go to the fucking doctor and take whatever pill he gives you.  why are you coming to an internet board for medical advice from anonymous nitwits (myself included).  you must be either a gimmick or a person in need of attention
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: tbombz on June 24, 2009, 09:14:24 AM
if your going to take melatonin do NOT take 3-5 mgs. take .3-.5mgs (300-500mcgs). 3mg is way way too much.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Jizzacked on June 24, 2009, 09:25:51 AM
I have been there my brother; over worked, stressful & thraumatising ecosystem. 90% of the time, it's not necessarily the way you are wired but attributed to how "toxic" your envrionment you live/lived in is/was...



this is very true.  stress, tobacco, alcohol, hormones, anything like this can potentially greatly exacerbate existing anxiety. 

in the past I have ran the gambit of medicine for my anxiety issues.... ended up building quite the medicine cabinet and it was hell getting off everything.  these days I don't take anything and focus on my breathing when I feel an attack coming on... it really does help some. 

scripts can be alright to work through a temporary period, but I would not recommend allowing them to become a permanent crutch.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: mogulgangi on June 24, 2009, 09:49:24 AM
black n milds, masturbation, or just fighting thru it..


dont drink alchohol, do drugs, cigs

you will get addicted
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Post by: uberman09 on June 24, 2009, 10:28:36 AM
it looks like a lot of people on here obviously have no idea how to treat themselves adequatly when it comes to psychological questions.

You guys should read some important things about inconscious, cognitives schemes , personality disorders and biological and environemental conditionings that affects your everyday life thru your thoughs and actions.

One good read once in a while could save you years if not decades of psychological pain for you and your loved ones.
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Post by: Sarcastic Deity on June 24, 2009, 11:12:16 AM
black n milds, masturbation, or just fighting thru it..


dont drink alchohol, do drugs, cigs

you will get addicted

black n milds will hook your ass just as quickly as cigs

just about all tobacco produced now will turn into a nicotine freebase when you light and inhale it

plus, fuck only knows what kinds of chemicals are used to give the flavoring
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Post by: Sarcastic Deity on June 24, 2009, 11:18:57 AM
just go to the fucking doctor and take whatever pill he gives you.  why are you coming to an internet board for medical advice from anonymous nitwits (myself included).  you must be either a gimmick or a person in need of attention

i disagree.  you can learn the damnedest things on this board
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Earl1972 on June 24, 2009, 11:29:09 AM
exercise

E
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 24, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
anxiety for what bro?
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 11:32:47 AM
i disagree.  you can learn the damnedest things on this board


QFT
everyone here is a character with an interesting life to tell.. with different experiences... some credible some not  :-\ 
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 11:34:26 AM
anxiety for what bro?

paranoid about everything
like a thought gets into my head and starts to control everything and extreme fear and anxiety take over. leaving me fatigued.. and now im starting to become physically ill as well because of it.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on June 24, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
paranoid about everything
like a thought gets into my head and starts to control everything and extreme fear and anxiety take over. leaving me fatigued.. and now im starting to become physically ill as well because of it.

like what kind of thought.  serious question
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Post by: Grape Ape on June 24, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
paranoid about everything
like a thought gets into my head and starts to control everything and extreme fear and anxiety take over. leaving me fatigued.. and now im starting to become physically ill as well because of it.

Here is a somewhat simplistic solution, but one that I know has worked for multiple people.

Whenever you have a thought like the one you described, say "Oh good!" out loud to yourself.  You will begin to realize that this is just a pattern that your brain has, and you will recognize the thought as just that, and nothing more than that.

Good luck to you.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 12:01:31 PM
Brain wave programs, like Hemi-sync (Robert Monroe), Brain Syns, SoundMind, etc. Idea is to balance the hemispheres of the right & left sides of the brain and in so doing place the mind in a open state to take advantage of it's full potential. Keeping it simple, white noise is usually the main influence with these types of brain wave programs. Can mimic a level of meditation, hypnosis, controled dreams or other suggestive forms. Excellent for reduced stress and gaining very deep relaxation, if that be the main goal. Will need a quality headset with a MP3, DVD player or even a PC.

If not into that, than meditation by all means. TM is probably the best for common goal of stress reduction. Pretty easy to do. True Yoga meditations more advance forms, like Kundalini, require more effort for the average person. Highlights breathing, mantra's and flexibility of the spine.

Can also try iDoser for dozens of brain wave programs and not you average brain wave programs. A whole different world to explore from getting the feel of being on drugs to spiritual feelings. Also need a good quality headset & player.

Most of this stuff is found on Torrents or there are a few download site that offer demo tapes.

thank you strangely fascinating
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 24, 2009, 12:27:18 PM
Here is a somewhat simplistic solution, but one that I know has worked for multiple people.

Whenever you have a thought like the one you described, say "Oh good!" out loud to yourself.  You will begin to realize that this is just a pattern that your brain has, and you will recognize the thought as just that, and nothing more than that.

Good luck to you.

Yes, accept it. "Running away" only strengthens the thought.
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Post by: uberman09 on June 24, 2009, 12:39:05 PM
exercise

E

idiot...
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Post by: uberman09 on June 24, 2009, 12:41:21 PM
paranoid about everything
like a thought gets into my head and starts to control everything and extreme fear and anxiety take over. leaving me fatigued.. and now im starting to become physically ill as well because of it.

What you're feeling might seem abnormal to you but it's a very common thing for people known as psychologists..These people were called "chaman" or "sorcerers" or "monks" in the past. They were and are wiser than the average joe individuals able to help the others figure out things out of their own contradictional lives to better em.

When your mind is sick, go see a mind doctor, as you would go see a "normal" doctor for your physical wounds.
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Post by: Sarcastic Deity on June 24, 2009, 01:26:03 PM
What you're feeling might seem abnormal to you but it's a very common thing for people known as psychologists..These people were called "chaman" or "sorcerers" or "monks" in the past. They were and are wiser than the average joe individuals able to help the others figure out things out of their own contradictional lives to better em.

When your mind is sick, go see a mind doctor, as you would go see a "normal" doctor for your physical wounds.

unfortunately, psychologists and psychiatrists are the biggest nuts out there
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Post by: Sarcastic Deity on June 24, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
like what kind of thought.  serious question

bump unless it's too personal
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Post by: liberalismo on June 24, 2009, 01:29:26 PM
YES!



Exercise


Green Tea with Ginseng


Ginseng by itself


Beer





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Post by: Earl1972 on June 24, 2009, 07:30:48 PM
idiot...

both me and this guy think that you are the idiot

http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Relieve-Stress-and-Anxiety-with-Exercise-21794880

E
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
like what kind of thought.  serious question
well for example if i have sex with a female ill think what if i got her pregnant so itll be on my mind until she has her period... ill be bugging her and ill start making plans for an upcoming child.. now keep in mind that she might be on the pill and i would of used a condom... now if i hadnt used a condom i would think maybe i have an STD so i might get tested for std test although no signs or symptoms and be constantly worrying till a point that i get physically ill... now i do this for every little thing in my life and it takes over
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Post by: 240 is Back on June 24, 2009, 09:59:03 PM
yeah panic attacks ended up in the ER room twice for hypertensive crisis...
mostly its a non stop fear of impending doom  :(

welcome to the club.

the good news is that you're correct.  in 100 years, everything you know and love will be gone, destroyed, dust.  So you're actually right in this thanatotic death fear thing.  we're all dust, brother.

That being said, if you can remove stressors from your life, managing the fear shit gets easier.  stay busy, find reasons to live, get a job you like, get a girl whos a dirty freak, etc.

I think about death every day, and I dont like it.  but it gets easier as you get older.  You see your idols die, you see loved ones pass, and you know there is a 50% chance it'll be heart failure, or 33% chance cancer gets you.  You know one minute, you'll just lose consciousness forever.

TA said something that helped me a lot... death is something you'll never know, cause you have to have life to know something.  The minute death grabs you, ya never know it, because you're not alive to stress it.


SO yeah, supplements will help, but just accepting your fate and shrugging and enjoying every minute helps a lot too.  Removes that underlying impending feeling that i know all too well.  SSRIs are great as well, but their sides kill everything that is good about life, IMO.  Enjoy that double-edged sword that is your crazy-ass mind.  it hurts you on one side, but it makes your mark in the world too.  You put it in a sheath with meds and you don't feel anything and the world doesn't know you're even there.





Then again, a guy spends his entire life believing he's the king of france, and he's going to be happy every minute of his life.  Sure, he's delusional, but he lives a happy life, so he wins in the end.
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Post by: dyslexic on June 24, 2009, 10:50:13 PM
There's a pretty cool book available a Barnes Knobles called: "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" the fourth edition is the most recent. I think it was around twenty bucks.


It helps you to understand why your brain is mis-interpreting sudden surges of adrenaline. Basically you will understand and correct any mistaken beliefs about your health.


There are so many variables and types of anxiety. Hopefully you are not dealing with any depression issues. SSRI's can help, but just kill any cool enthusiasm that you can experience. SSRI's also kill your sex drive.


Xanax at least lets you live. You don't have to believe all the hype about it being so addictive. You can let yourself get addicted to anything if you want to.


If you don't address the underlying issues and find the proper way to cope with anxiety, you can start to become agoraphobic. YOu will be afraid of fear. You will start to avoid the places where you experience panic attacks or anxiety attacks. This is where cognitive behaviour comes in handy.


Sometimes you can just be stressed out of your fucking mind for way to long. You feel invincible and you continue to take on more and more responsibility. You are out to conquer the world. Your mind never rests. Your sleep is not sound (and it doesn't last long)--these things will cause your adrenal glands to overload eventually.


When this happens, you just have to rest. If it took 20 years of intense behaviour patterns, don't expect to be cured of adrenal type anxiety overnight. It may take some time.


Self-help is a good way to start. Don't Google "anxiety" too much though, ironically, it has a way of intensifying your feelings.


Sometimes it can get so bad that intense conversations or movies with a lot of suspense and action can trigger it. You have to learn to clear your mind from time to time. Whether or not meditation techniques will work for you, I don't know.


Sometimes people turn to spirituality or philosophy. The subconscious mind can fuck you over without you knowing it. You may really have to do some type of "introspection" to find out why the hell you can't chill out anymore.


good luck with it all mang!
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Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on June 24, 2009, 10:58:04 PM
cognitive behavioral therapy.....
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 24, 2009, 10:58:29 PM
http://www.ebookee.com/Free-Yourself-from-Fears-Overcoming-Anxiety-and-Living-Without-Worry_141730.html (http://www.ebookee.com/Free-Yourself-from-Fears-Overcoming-Anxiety-and-Living-Without-Worry_141730.html)
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Post by: Dballn247 on June 24, 2009, 11:17:06 PM
There's a pretty cool book available a Barnes Knobles called: "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" the fourth edition is the most recent. I think it was around twenty bucks.


It helps you to understand why your brain is mis-interpreting sudden surges of adrenaline. Basically you will understand and correct any mistaken beliefs about your health.


There are so many variables and types of anxiety. Hopefully you are not dealing with any depression issues. SSRI's can help, but just kill any cool enthusiasm that you can experience. SSRI's also kill your sex drive.


Xanax at least lets you live. You don't have to believe all the hype about it being so addictive. You can let yourself get addicted to anything if you want to.


If you don't address the underlying issues and find the proper way to cope with anxiety, you can start to become agoraphobic. YOu will be afraid of fear. You will start to avoid the places where you experience panic attacks or anxiety attacks. This is where cognitive behaviour comes in handy.


Sometimes you can just be stressed out of your fucking mind for way to long. You feel invincible and you continue to take on more and more responsibility. You are out to conquer the world. Your mind never rests. Your sleep is not sound (and it doesn't last long)--these things will cause your adrenal glands to overload eventually.


When this happens, you just have to rest. If it took 20 years of intense behaviour patterns, don't expect to be cured of adrenal type anxiety overnight. It may take some time.


Self-help is a good way to start. Don't Google "anxiety" too much though, ironically, it has a way of intensifying your feelings.


Sometimes it can get so bad that intense conversations or movies with a lot of suspense and action can trigger it. You have to learn to clear your mind from time to time. Whether or not meditation techniques will work for you, I don't know.


Sometimes people turn to spirituality or philosophy. The subconscious mind can fuck you over without you knowing it. You may really have to do some type of "introspection" to find out why the hell you can't chill out anymore.


good luck with it all mang!

Word, saw transformers tonight and was sweating like a motherfocker.  The statement about becoming slightly agorophobic is true.  I ended up taking a week off from work because it was stressful.  Didn't want to be around people.  When I had to go back to work I began throwing up, having the sweats etc....

I've tried battling it mentally but I'm weak.... gonna hit up the doc for some Xanax again.  At least I could function.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: gib on June 24, 2009, 11:30:20 PM
Just out of interest, what caused you to get this problem in the first place? Have you previously used esctacy as a rec drug?
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Overload on June 25, 2009, 12:32:58 AM
Meditation and positive thinking did a lot for me.

I have Xanax for panic attacks but i haven't had one in years.

My stress was similar to yours before i got control of it. I used to lay awake every night worried to death about the smallest things and some days i couldn't eat because of stress and worry. i was just very confused and was not at peace with "myself". Learn to know yourself and love yourself for who you are, meditation clears the mind like nothing else, but it takes a long time to learn it.

Find something to live for...

8)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 25, 2009, 12:36:41 AM
do you also have the feeling ur being followed all the time when you walk outside.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Captain Equipoise on June 25, 2009, 12:42:56 AM
There are plenty my brother:

5-HTP is probably the fastest acting and most reliable. 100mg will do the trick. Closely followed by L-tryptophan but make many people sleepy.

GABA is also very helpful but more of "maintenance/long term" supplement but it will really help maintaining your dopamine levels.

Also plenty of fish oil will really help but again, takes a while to kick in.

The nastiest is St-John Wort; very good but hard on the liver and will make your skin photo sensitive.

If you have night anxiety, 3-5mg of melatonin will help.


Hope this helps.

Hold on a sec... I thought 5-htp WAS L-Tryptophan ?!! are they not the same ?!?
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: HTexan on June 25, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John%27s_wort#Major_depressive_disorder
maybe?
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Eisenherz on June 25, 2009, 12:51:50 AM
Meditation and positive thinking did a lot for me.

I have Xanax for panic attacks but i haven't had one in years.

My stress was similar to yours before i got control of it. I used to lay awake every night worried to death about the smallest things and some days i couldn't eat because of stress and worry. i was just very confused and was not at peace with "myself". Learn to know yourself and love yourself for who you are, meditation clears the mind like nothing else, but it takes a long time to learn it.

Find something to live for...

8)

how often do you meditate? I would give it a go to relieve stress but I'm worried it might just be a waist of time.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: dyslexic on June 25, 2009, 01:08:34 AM
how often do you meditate? I would give it a go to relieve stress but I'm worried it might just be a waist of time.


If you do learn to meditate, you will do it in the morning and in the afternoon. NEVER before bed. When you truly learn to clear your mind and you come back to the "real world", the last thing you will be able to do is sleep. It's a great way to jumpstart the day and to give you an extra boost in the afternoon.


I can do it once or twice a day and then skip two days. Sometimes the energy from meditation is overwhelming for me. I wouldn't worry about it being a "waste of time"... you've got nothing to lose. Everyone should learn how to clear their minds from time to time. It's kind of like taking out the trash. It has to be done every so often.



Some people just stress more than others, especially those that are hungry for knowledge and accomplishment in life. When you take everything to the limit, you don't learn to chill and be happy. You ever notice people that don't seem to have a care in the world? Sometimes I think they are on to something. Everything in moderation.



Someone asked about drug use. If you have been taking prescription pills for some time- and maybe drinking, smoking, etc. you will have a lot higher chance of getting anxiety. Maybe not in the beginning, but after a time the toxicity builds up and your system tries to protect you from doing farther harm to yourself.


You would be surprised how many people work each day with anxiety, depression, vertigo, panic, weakness, tremors... all that. Some of them have been dealing with it for so long that they just figure it's a part of life and they don't ever say anything to anyone. I know this chick in her early 30's that is afraid to drive. She is single, she is hot, but she doesnt like dating because she hates telling guys she can't drive. She CAN drive, it's just that if it's for more than 20 minutes or so, she gets vertigo.


For the guy who takes Xanax to get through a day of work, I totally understand. I am fine at the gym, doing seminars with crowds, travelling, etc., But, when I have to sit in the office and dispatch a 12 hour day, Xanax is my friend.


I haven't drank coffee since my first anxiety attack. I can drink decaf, but what's the point? No stimulants whatsover. Even Coke Zero fucks with me because of the aspartame.


Life changes. I guess we just deal with it. There are folks who have much much worse lives than we do.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Eisenherz on June 25, 2009, 02:38:36 AM
I'll dedicate myself to meditation 20 min in the morning then 20 min in the afternoon then, thanks dyslexsic
I liked your analogy of "taking out the trash".
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Post by: CalvinH on June 25, 2009, 06:54:49 AM
Take some speed.
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Post by: DK II on June 25, 2009, 06:55:46 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

testosterone.

Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: CalvinH on June 25, 2009, 07:09:30 AM
testosterone.





I think a nice combo of coke and heroin injected into his arm should do the trick.
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Post by: uberman09 on June 25, 2009, 08:11:35 AM
cognitive behavioral therapy.....

QFT.
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Post by: Army of One on June 25, 2009, 08:15:12 AM
cognitive behavioral therapy.....

Nailed it, forget Nlp,Nac (Tony Robbins),gestalt, freudian etc, CBT has been proven BY FAR as the quickest and most effective way of changing limiting thought patterns.

Anyone who wants the best program for it should look here if they are aware of torrents, only download if you lost your original copy!  ;)

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3508668/Attacking_Anxiety_and_Depression_%5BMidwest_Center_for_Stress_and
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Post by: BigNBloated on June 25, 2009, 08:22:50 AM
I know this isn't going to go over well but uh, not living the bodybuilding lifestyle is a huge help. Lax your diet, find ways to stay lean without eating 6 meals around the clock and worrying about losing mass. For most individuals like myself its an extremely stressful experience and now I just lift heavy and eat what I can and I enjoy life a lot more. It may not bother others, but It was an annoying part of my life I didn't feel was necesary so I learned to relax. Eat reasonable, workout and enjoy life. Stress and anxiety will destroy your body and mental health.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: CalvinH on June 25, 2009, 08:47:51 AM
Bottle of Jack and an 8ball should help.
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Post by: tbombz on June 25, 2009, 08:54:39 AM
if your gonna use drugsw to overcome anxiety, use mushrooms. in my opinnion its far superior to any other drug (xanax, valium, etc etc). works better short term, but also has long lasting effects.


meditation is cool. i dont do it very often, although i should.  when i used to meditate, i used to do all sorts of stuff..... like lay down nakey outside on the grasee, with my arms and legs spread out, directly aligned with the sun... put on some ddark sunglass and head phones with some trance music, and just stare right into the sun, but not actually look at the sun, more focus on it but stare at the entire sky through my peripherals.   pretty coooll experience.
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Post by: Necrosis on June 25, 2009, 08:54:55 AM
Fuck...I didn't know St. Johns Wort had so many drawbacks. I take that stuff quite a bit.

its not hard on the liver, it induces the cytochrome p450 enzymes making drugs that are metabolized by this enzyme less effective.

It was recently shown to be a effective treatment for major depression.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Palpatine Q on June 25, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
its not hard on the liver, it induces the cytochrome p450 enzymes making drugs that are metabolized by this enzyme less effective.

It was recently shown to be a effective treatment for major depression.

I stopped taking it after reading A23"s post and the weirdest thing happened,

I've been having trouble sleeping and last night i slept like a rock, my mind wasn't going a million miles an hour like it usually is
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Post by: The Showstoppa on June 25, 2009, 09:04:44 AM
I stopped taking it after reading A23"s post and the weirdest thing happened,

I've been having trouble sleeping and last night i slept like a rock, my mind wasn't going a million miles an hour like it usually is

Did you reduce the meth intake before bed too, Groink?  8)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Necrosis on June 25, 2009, 09:30:12 AM
I stopped taking it after reading A23"s post and the weirdest thing happened,

I've been having trouble sleeping and last night i slept like a rock, my mind wasn't going a million miles an hour like it usually is

 the drug does have side effects. It hits pretty much every major neurotransmitter.

I really like it, although it did give me insomnia ::)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: tbombz on June 25, 2009, 09:30:56 AM
the drug does have side effects. It hits pretty much every major neurotransmitter.

I really like it, although it did give me insomnia ::)

how much do you take on how does it make you feel.
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Post by: Palpatine Q on June 25, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
Did you reduce the meth intake before bed too, Groink?  8)

I'm into herion these days, try and keep up ;D
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: CalvinH on June 25, 2009, 09:50:54 AM
I stopped taking it after reading A23"s post and the weirdest thing happened,

I've been having trouble sleeping and last night i slept like a rock, my mind wasn't going a million miles an hour like it usually is



Really? the funny thing is when I read Alex's post's I wanna go to sleep :D
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Necrosis on June 25, 2009, 09:58:17 AM
how much do you take on how does it make you feel.
i have taken it in the past, definitely a nice mood elevation some sensatio of akathisia and insomnia. Usually goes away after a period of time


hyperforin rich sjw is what works best.
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Post by: Palpatine Q on June 25, 2009, 10:03:34 AM


Really? the funny thing is when I read Alex's post's I wanna go to sleep :D

LOLOL
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: boonasty on June 25, 2009, 10:04:50 AM
  when i used to meditate, i used to do all sorts of stuff..... like lay down nakey outside on the grasee, with my arms and legs spread out, directly aligned with the sun... put on some ddark sunglass and head phones with some trance music, and just stare right into the sun, but not actually look at the sun, more focus on it but stare at the entire sky through my peripherals.   pretty coooll experience.


fire ants
sunburn
neighbor lady with binoculars


Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 27, 2009, 09:11:14 AM
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4823910/Change_Your_Life_Forever_-_Hypnosis (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4823910/Change_Your_Life_Forever_-_Hypnosis)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 27, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
If you want to feel better listen

ive tried hypnosis, eft, meditation, antidepressant, salt,omega acids, and so on.
it works good all of the techniques, but nothing comes close to electric stimulant to the brain.
i hook my alpha stim ear-clips on for 20 min and feel the results almost the entire day. it works for all the stuff, insomniacs, depression, anxiety, learning, concentration, intelect. alpha stim is what you need.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Fatpanda on June 27, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

get ripped, get huge, and/or take up boxing.

it will give you an inner confidence  8)

or meditate lots  8)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Rami on June 27, 2009, 10:30:44 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

working out
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Dballn247 on June 29, 2009, 05:57:47 PM
Back on the Xanax, it's like having a ton lifted off of me.  Feeling so much better....
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: jtsunami on June 29, 2009, 09:11:24 PM
xanax xr for all day relief
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: dyslexic on June 29, 2009, 10:01:01 PM
Back on the Xanax, it's like having a ton lifted off of me.  Feeling so much better....


Make sure you still hit the weights hard and heavy. When you just sit around stressing all day, Cortisol builds up and tears you down physically and mentally. A good hard and heavy workout will flush out the Cortisol (temporarily).. Xanax afterward if you need it.


Sometimes you just have to learn to clear your mind. I'm not really talking about meditating, although it may be a form of "meditation"



Just close your eyes, if the lights are bright, hold your hands over em. Learn to clear your mind. No thought processing (that should be easy for many forum members)-- create a black slate. Don't let any thoughts or images enter your mind. Breathe deep.


Most people can't do this. Most folks have high-intensity multiple imagery going on in their heads all the time, even when they are sleeping.


It takes practice, but it gives your mind a rest. I believe our minds need rest just as much as our bodies do. In today's society, it is almost complete unheard of (at least in the states)


I wish massage was as popular and as cheap in the States as it is in Japan and Asian culture. Most folks there won't start their day (or end it) without some form of accepted stress relief.


Be careful in doing too much research. It does NOT give your mind any rest.
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Post by: benchthis on June 29, 2009, 10:51:46 PM

Make sure you still hit the weights hard and heavy. When you just sit around stressing all day, Cortisol builds up and tears you down physically and mentally. A good hard and heavy workout will flush out the Cortisol (temporarily).. Xanax afterward if you need it.


Sometimes you just have to learn to clear your mind. I'm not really talking about meditating, although it may be a form of "meditation"



Just close your eyes, if the lights are bright, hold your hands over em. Learn to clear your mind. No thought processing (that should be easy for many forum members)-- create a black slate. Don't let any thoughts or images enter your mind. Breathe deep.


Most people can't do this. Most folks have high-intensity multiple imagery going on in their heads all the time, even when they are sleeping.


It takes practice, but it gives your mind a rest. I believe our minds need rest just as much as our bodies do. In today's society, it is almost complete unheard of (at least in the states)


I wish massage was as popular and as cheap in the States as it is in Japan and Asian culture. Most folks there won't start their day (or end it) without some form of accepted stress relief.


Be careful in doing too much research. It does NOT give your mind any rest.


QFT  :-[
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: arce1988 on June 29, 2009, 10:59:41 PM
 Valium
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 29, 2009, 11:02:24 PM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???


xanax
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 29, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
WTF is anxiety
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: benchthis on June 29, 2009, 11:28:10 PM
BEEN USING A LOT OF ADVICE GIVEN ON THE THREAD AND I MUST SAY YOU GETBIGGERS SURE KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT LIFE...
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: dyslexic on June 30, 2009, 08:00:57 AM
BEEN USING A LOT OF ADVICE GIVEN ON THE THREAD AND I MUST SAY YOU GETBIGGERS SURE KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT LIFE...


Sometimes I think of Getbig as a "benefit to risk" ratio. You gotta take the good with the bad.


Question is: How much good vs. how much bad? ;D
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 30, 2009, 08:03:40 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???

believe it or not...

running...and not a sissy wittle 10 min run..a good half hour trot
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2009, 08:11:14 AM
BEEN USING A LOT OF ADVICE GIVEN ON THE THREAD AND I MUST SAY YOU GETBIGGERS SURE KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT LIFE...

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4008367/Hypnotica_-_Collection_Of_Confidence (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4008367/Hypnotica_-_Collection_Of_Confidence)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: BigNBloated on June 30, 2009, 09:16:34 AM


Walking has been proven to reduce inflammation where other forms of exercise do not. A solid 30-40 min walk will do wonders for anxiety and stress. Not to mention its incredibly good for your heart.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 30, 2009, 09:26:42 AM
Walking is for the poor, downtrodden and commoners.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Tapeworm on June 30, 2009, 09:28:26 AM
Peasant?  Serf?  Peon?

(http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-content/uploads/john-kapelos.jpg)
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 30, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
Peasant?  Serf?  Peon?

(http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-content/uploads/john-kapelos.jpg)

"I am the eyes and ears of this institution...."
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: atafic on June 30, 2009, 10:34:22 AM
anyone know any natural remedies for anxiety... ???
It depends. If you are able to predict a crysis coming focus on something that you really like (read a book [I have read Lord of the Rings 20 times at least lol] , think how to solve a technical problem ... ) step by step you understand that it is not real and you can handle with ease.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Mars on June 30, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
yes jogging is good.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 30, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
Back on the Xanax, it's like having a ton lifted off of me.  Feeling so much better....


could be short term effects. i remember when i first started using remeron i felt i was in wonderland for the first 2 weeks, after 6 months the damn pik made me even much more depressed, plus it it very sedative, feel tiread all day,and my eyes were sleepy had to take it at night cause it knocks you out, i lost all my feelings, even when fucking couldnt feel any emotions after a couple of years on remeron, and remeron is one of the most gentle antidepressant for libido. I first reduced it from 30 mg to 15 mg, felt a little better, then reduced it to quartr pil 7,5 mg, my feelings are back, feel alive again, plus a lot more energy.

AD's are nice to try, but not good for long term
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: MAXX on June 30, 2009, 02:53:45 PM
Having anxiety must suck dick, I would hate having your guy's shitty ass genetics to have that shithole of a disorder.
yeah but your genetics are shitty enough to post pics of another bodybuilder and claim it's you
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 30, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
yeah but your genetics are shitty enough to post pics of another bodybuilder and claim it's you

beat me to it
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 30, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
there is a difference between fear and anxiety.

anxiety comes from the german word angst, its a inner conflict from inside that needs to be adressed. you should actually  take a minute to really hear it what it got to say, its telling you something, before you try to mask it for the rest of your life with drugs or buying a mercedes to fill up your emptiness.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: EL Mariachi on June 30, 2009, 03:02:35 PM
Hahah, atleast my fans never forget. That was intentional, your anxiety isn't, freaks.

well post a pic then to prove your point
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Post by: hcg5000iu on June 30, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
you have anxiety because you are so weak and small
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 30, 2009, 05:07:27 PM
Peasant?  Serf?  Peon?

(http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-content/uploads/john-kapelos.jpg)


"No, I want to know how does one become a janitor, because Andrew here is very interested in pursuing a career in the custodial arts."
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 01, 2009, 05:02:22 AM

"No, I want to know how does one become a janitor, because Andrew here is very interested in pursuing a career in the custodial arts."

the poor janitor at our school must have heard that line about 100 times....he was too old to have a clue what it was referring to.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Tapeworm on July 01, 2009, 05:17:22 AM
the poor janitor at our school must have heard that line about 100 times....he was too old to have a clue what it was referring to.

A guy 3 years ahead of me wound up getting hired on as the assistant janitor after graduation.  The ultimate indignity, but he was too lamebrained to know it.
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 01, 2009, 05:18:36 AM
A guy 3 years ahead of me wound up getting hired on as the assistant janitor after graduation.  The ultimate indignity, but he was too lamebrained to know it.

I can't even imagine dealing with the crap, literally sometimes, that you catch as a janitor.  I had friends who were relentless....
Title: Re: ANYONE KNOW? anxiety related...
Post by: Tapeworm on July 01, 2009, 05:34:17 AM
I can't even imagine dealing with the crap, literally sometimes, that you catch as a janitor.  I had friends who were relentless....

Most probably reherse some version of that "eyes and ears of this institution my friends" speech in the mirror, just dyin' for the right moment to whip it out.