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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The Master on July 14, 2009, 11:42:26 AM
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Would you pay money to see a roid monkey trapped in the delusion that he = actually an athlete get smashed to pieces by a MMA fighter of the same weight?
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Since Dexter Jackson beat the shit out of his GF, he is up first:
Dexter Jackson vs. Fedor.
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BB = all show no go.
Trained mma fighter = real life bad ass.
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Would you pay money to see a roid monkey trapped in the delusion that he = actually an athlete get smashed to pieces by a MMA fighter of the same weight?
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But, but, Phil Heath and Dexter ran 3.45 40s in high school and their teams would've won state had coach put them in, no doubt about it.
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BB = all show no go.
Trained mma fighter = real life bad ass.
Since arrogant little Dexter Jackson beat his GF to the hospital, he will be first.
That little turtle-mug of his will look even better after being rearranged 8)
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But, but, Phil Heath and Dexter ran 3.45 40s in high school and their teams would've won state had coach put them in, no doubt about it.
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They have to use their 85 IQ brains for something, like being a punching bag and entertainment for better people.
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They have to use their 85 IQ brains for something, like being a punching bag and entertainment for better people.
85? You're being awfully generous today.
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Maybe we can start our very own Bully Beat down, GB style.
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Since Dexter Jackson beat the shit out of his GF, he is up first:
Dexter Jackson vs. Fedor.
LOL that was EXACT same match up that came to my head immediatley
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LOL that was EXACT same match up that came to my head immediatley
The GF he smashed would get first row seats and a free pass to take a sucker punch at him while he was being out for 10 min after a brutal KO.
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Fighting ability is directly and soley related to the amount of muscle mass you carry, therefore most/all IFBB bodybuilders would beat MMA fighters at their own game.
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Fighting ability is directly and soley related to the amount of muscle mass you carry, therefore most/all IFBB bodybuilders would beat MMA fighters at their own game.
HAHAHAHAhahaHA! you're a funny guy, Bob ;D
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Fighting ability is directly and soley related to the amount of muscle mass you carry, therefore most/all IFBB bodybuilders would beat MMA fighters at their own game.
(http://www.fishreports.net/fishing-gear/images/fishing-hook.jpg)
:D
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mma vs any ifbb druggie
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mma vs any ifbb druggie
I love that video.
He should have punched him in the head while choking him out though.
Thats called NOT panicing and beliving in your skills.
And that whats you get for being a disrespecting kneegrow
(good fighter though but he thinks he is a GOD)
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titus vs baroni
winner by ko graig titus
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Even bodybuilders who are 225 pounds or under are in so shitty condition I can't comprehend it... ;D
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MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros
Layne.
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i'd pay money to see mma fighters on a bodybuilding stage
first up
dexter vs fedor
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The only bber so far is baroni - then again he was a boxer as well.
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LOL, OMG it would be slaughter... of course there are some delusional twinks (trailer park dave) that believe pro bb's would beat a trained MMA fighter due to the size and muscle difference ( LOL ) obviously fat dave has never been in a real fight in his life.... muscle means very little... I mean it does help if you are trained and jacked. But if you're just a juiced up douchebag you're all show and no go, without any fight training a bb'er would go annihilated by any amateur boxer that has been boxing for 8 months, or a white belt JJ student.
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BB = all show no go.
Trained mma fighter = real life bad ass.
Fighters are better at fighting. Bodybuilders are better at bodybilding.
Hope this helps.
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i'd pay money to see mma fighters on a bodybuilding stage
first up
dexter vs fedor
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Yeah they kinda said that exact same thing in the first post
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I've been educated in this subject lately. I went back and watched some early UFC. UFC 1 infact. What I discovered is that the UFC you see now gives you a false sense that "anybody with boxing skill can bang" and might have a chance in a UFC ring - when what really happens is these guys get put on the floor where they have not a single clue how to defend themselves. They never get anywhere. They look confused and end up tapping out pretty weakly.
I'm sure fighting will evolve to the point where everybody knows to have a well rounded game, even if you're just a weekend warrior but right now, if you have jujitsu and can avoid a few early punches, you're probably going to be able to defuse most encounters with idiots who believe due to a few hours of boxing, that they are invincible.
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Debussy vs Ron,
Ron won by a ko.
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I think the better question is, "Would an IFBB Pro beat any person who is in shape in a fight?" The answer is no.
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yeh right... the average ifbb pro could pull your arm out the sockets, when facing an avarege person...
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Yeah they kinda said that exact same thing in the first post
nope the first post talked about fighting
I would love to see fedor get destroyed on a bodybuilding stage by dexter, is he really under the delusion that he can compete with the best bodybuiders? :P
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nope the first post talked about fighting
I would love to see fedor get destroyed on a bodybuilding stage by dexter, is he really under the delusion that he can compete with the best bodybuiders? :P
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
it's just a silly conversation to have, they aren't supposed to be fighters and the muscles were never built for fighting so why compare the two?
fedor easily wins in his chosen profession, dexter easily wins in his
just another anti bodybuilding thread on a bodybuilding forum ::)
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Still you don't get it. What's bodybuilding supposed to be for? What is its allure? For a few, it is an art and they get genuine fulfillment from creating a work of art. For most, big muscles = tough alpha-male. But they're wrong. Big muscles = nothing.
That is why bodybuilding is dying and MMA is exploding.
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Debussy vs Ron,
Ron won by a ko.
LOL. He's still out on the canvas. I guess the upside is that his IQ won't be affected by such a pummeling.
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....
One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
QFT
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Still you don't get it. What's bodybuilding supposed to be for? What is its allure? For a few, it is an art and they get genuine fulfillment from creating a work of art. For most, big muscles = tough alpha-male. But they're wrong. Big muscles = nothing.
That is why bodybuilding is dying and MMA is exploding.
what is mma supposed to be for? how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?
more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals
as far as being an alpha male goes, i think it's more of a mindset than fighting or big muscles
going by looks alone, i think people would say a bodybuilder looks more alpha than bj penn, for that reason a bj penn look alike would more likely be in a situation where he has to defend himself
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
You still don't get it in fact. Who gives a crap about pummeling some guy's face unless you had a troubled childhood, or for some reason feel the need to pound on someone to get affirmation in life. Lame, and for stupid people.
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is big muscles dont mean anything as far as being alpha male...how come every single "mma" tapout wearing "cage fighter"...will automatically give respect to a guy who is bigger muscled than him?
in life its evry simple and it almost always holds true... bigger muscles/better looking... = more respect... regardless of anything else...
if your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...
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Would you pay money to see a roid monkey trapped in the delusion that he = actually an athlete get smashed to pieces by a MMA fighter of the same just about any weight?
:D
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what is mma supposed to be for? how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?
more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals
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I agree with your points, but, Bodybuidling has its share of seedy characters.
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if your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...
LOL
No serious MMA fighter is going to want to train with a BB'er. Apples and Oranges.
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mma vs any ifbb druggie
lol well that guy has clearly no mma knowledge. you could spot that triangle choke coming from a mile away.. and the worse thing you can do is body slam and let it lock in deeper. before that he was doing alright.
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^^^^That guy in question, is Charlie "Krazy Horse" Bennet, another MMA fighter who is more striking based. He previously claimed that he KOed Wandy Silva backstage at Pride. Chute Boxe, Wandy's old camp, put out this video to dismiss all of Krazy Horse's claims. Size and strength does play a role in fightinig. Brock Lesnar is a monster, BUT HE is crazy athletic. Something, most pro bodybuilders are not.
Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.
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MMA fighters dont get that heavy
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^^^Why would they? Size with loss of physical attributes is detrimental to fighting. Efficiency dictates that lack of extreme size (inhibiting mobility, agility, endurance) is essential to fighting.
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Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.
exactly
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Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.
Layne.
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So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....
One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...
Ernie Taylor was a world class kickboxer at one point, wasn't he?
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Ernie Taylor was a world class kickboxer at one point, wasn't he?
A world class kickboxer who called Guy Grundy out and then when Grundy said ok, got cold feet :)
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So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....
One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...
It wasn't a dumb post. Your exaggerative perception of what he is said is "dumb", however, that is your reading comprehension, not his point.
What he said was that many people get into bb'ing and consequently think they are instant alpha male toughguys. At no stage did suggest what you claim he was saying. He's talking about people who believe added muscle inceases their fighting potential far more than is actually true.
You're way smarter than taking ye olde "indignation exaggeration" angle of an argument. I don't know why you are lowering yourself to it. It really is the method of the morose.
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mma vs any ifbb druggie
hahahahaaa...Crazy Horse was so entertaining
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I said Layne.
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I said Layne.
We get it. You want to suck his dick. STFU about it.
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It wasn't a dumb post. Your exaggerative perception of what he is said is "dumb", however, that is your reading comprehension, not his point.
What he said was that many people get into bb'ing and consequently think they are instant alpha male toughguys. At no stage did suggest what you claim he was saying. He's talking about people who believe added muscle inceases their fighting potential far more than is actually true.
You're way smarter than taking ye olde "indignation exaggeration" angle of an argument. I don't know why you are lowering yourself to it. It really is the method of the morose.
My comprehension is just fine, thank you...
First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best
Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost? I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...
The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.
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My comprehension is just fine, thank you...
First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best
Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost? I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...
The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.
someone who's overly muscular like yourself would be at a disadvantage in the cage, brother!
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someone who's overly muscular like yourself would be at a disadvantage in the cage, brother!
Yep...sure would
Just as the MMA fighter would be at a disadvantage on a BB stage
GET IT?
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My comprehension is just fine, thank you...
First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best
Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost? I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...
The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.
Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.) Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.
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Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.) Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.
wow you must of been bigger than brock you couldnt get the full twink-punch-slap combo down right in your womens defense class for ladies over 45
just make sure next time your huge biceps dont knock off Mrs. Carrolton's wig when you fake ball bust her ass
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Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.) Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.
Of course it does...they're two DIFFERENT paths.
Thats like asking if being a 250 lb bodybuilder would be a disadvantage to running a 26 mile marathon...
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LMAO @ this thread ;D
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Chick, would you say (in all fairness) that over exorbitant muscle size has a negative effect on ability to fight (ie. speed, maneuvering capability, etc.) Reason I ask is when I was doing Muay Thai I had to cut back on the lifting because my delts, traps and back made it harder to hit back effectively and use proper form and technique.
ever heard of brock lesnar?
back in the day mark kerr and mark coleman were fighting at about 250+.
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''freakn horny chinese guy''
;D
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ever heard of brock lesnar?
back in the day mark kerr and mark coleman were fighting at about 250+.
I'm just saying some stuff in martial arts is a lot harder and more exhausting to do when you are 250+
esp. on gear, geez...Im not comparing myself to Brock Lesnar or whatever, it was just a simple observation that Chick concurred.
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So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....
One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...
Big muscles are fine. They look great and portray power & strength. However, for 99% of national level & pro bodybuilders the muscles are just for show and do nothing. It's like putting a Ferrari body on VW bug. It might look great, but it doesn't do shit.
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what is mma supposed to be for? how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?
more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals
as far as being an alpha male goes, i think it's more of a mindset than fighting or big muscles
going by looks alone, i think people would say a bodybuilder looks more alpha than bj penn, for that reason a bj penn look alike would more likely be in a situation where he has to defend himself
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you make my point for me. Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit. He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.
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You still don't get it in fact. Who gives a crap about pummeling some guy's face unless you had a troubled childhood, or for some reason feel the need to pound on someone to get affirmation in life. Lame, and for stupid people.
I personally don't believe that you need to be a trained MMA fighter or juiced up bodybuilder to mask some sort of insecurity. More important than anything, is your sense of confidence and mindset. Instead, I am refering to the juiced up meatheads who walk around thinking they're tough guys (99% of bodybuilders). Sorry, guys...you ain't shit.
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is big muscles dont mean anything as far as being alpha male...how come every single "mma" tapout wearing "cage fighter"...will automatically give respect to a guy who is bigger muscled than him?
in life its evry simple and it almost always holds true... bigger muscles/better looking... = more respect... regardless of anything else...
if your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...
You're delusional. Every amateur/professional MMA fighter I've ever met laughs at bodybuilders. And, none want to have overly developed muscle mass, as it is a serious liability when it comes to flexibility, speed and endurance.
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LOL. The handbags are swinging in this thread. Someone dash some water on our overheated matrons. :)
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So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....
One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...
That's true...some people who are into strength training and who are anti-bodybuilding don't want any muscles and want to be skinny...I personally don't understand it.
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You're delusional. Every amateur/professional MMA fighter I've ever met laughs at bodybuilders. And, none want to have overly developed muscle mass, as it is a serious liability when it comes to flexibility, speed and endurance.
LOL - Everyone you have ever met? Is it your standard entry question? '' Hi, nice to meet you, BTW do you laugh at Arnold?'' :D
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you make my point for me. Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit. He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.
Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth? Lets see who the "alpha" male is.
You talk like a complete retard.
I dont have to take shit from anyone...and the difference is, anyone who is worth their weight as a fighter doesn't go around acting like a toughguy...
You obviously dont have the brain capacity to understand that which has been explained a number of ways to you...the PERCEPTION of what an "alpha male" is, is what is put out there...whether someone is a cage fighter, BB, or successful businessman....I got news for you son, most MMA guys dont exactly meet the criteria in the public eye...walking around with your face beat up, stiches, crooked nose, cauliflower ears doesn't exactly portray what th mainstream would consider "alpha looking"
Stop talking while you can still save a shread of dignity, your mouth is making you look like an ignorant fool
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Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth? Lets see who the "alpha" male is.
You talk like a complete retard.
I dont have to take shit from anyone...and the difference is, anyone who is worth their weight as a fighter doesn't go around acting like a toughguy...
You obviously dont have the brain capacity to understand that which has been explained a number of ways to you...the PERCEPTION of what an "alpha male" is, is what is put out there...whether someone is a cage fighter, BB, or successful businessman....I got news for you son, most MMA guys dont exactly meet the criteria in the public eye...walking around with your face beat up, stiches, crooked nose, cauliflower ears doesn't exactly portray what th mainstream would consider "alpha looking"
Stop talking while you can still save a shread of dignity, your mouth is making you look like an ignorant fool
lol. making you melt is easier than 15lb dumbell presses :D
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lol. making you melt is easier than 15lb dumbell presses :D
Good response from someone who has just been exposed
well done
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Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth? Lets see who the "alpha" male is.
The "athletes" "rep" is making threats ;D
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you make my point for me. Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit. He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.
I might have used someone other than BJ Penn as an example, but anyway. He's got talent, but is a lazy dough boy and will never realize his full potential.
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I think it's funny that all MMA fans automatically assume that everyone who does MMA training is a badass.
I will give it up to guys who have fought successfully....but the average gym rat is the average gym rat, be it MMA or BBing . No one is better than the other
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You're a badass in my book, Groink :-*
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Who would win in a fight: chick or mindspin? ???
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I personally don't believe that you need to be a trained MMA fighter or juiced up bodybuilder to mask some sort of insecurity. More important than anything, is your sense of confidence and mindset. Instead, I am refering to the juiced up meatheads who walk around thinking they're tough guys (99% of bodybuilders). Sorry, guys...you ain't shit.
Aint shit in what respect? The way I see it anyone who walks around thinking about kicking people's heads in needs to address their personal problems. Is a big physique built with some hard work and attention to nutrition so much worse than some skinny guy who walks around with imaginary lat syndrome looking for a fight? If I was gonna be a lame fighting-obsessed type guy, I'd rather at least have gotten a good physique, which actually requires some dedication and application, not just a bad attitude.
I really don't see, outside of TV entertainment, why someone with a stable childhood and good upbringing would feel the need to batter someone. And how it would be an achievement if they did.
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you make my point for me. Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit. He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.
and bj penn would go to jail and chick could sue him for all he's worth
which makes mma fighting useless outside the cage, like pro muscles outside the bodybuilding stage
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Since you think I'm such a "little biatch"...why dont YOU come up and slap me in the mouth? Lets see who the "alpha" male is.
You talk like a complete retard.
I dont have to take shit from anyone...and the difference is, anyone who is worth their weight as a fighter doesn't go around acting like a toughguy...
You obviously dont have the brain capacity to understand that which has been explained a number of ways to you...the PERCEPTION of what an "alpha male" is, is what is put out there...whether someone is a cage fighter, BB, or successful businessman....I got news for you son, most MMA guys dont exactly meet the criteria in the public eye...walking around with your face beat up, stiches, crooked nose, cauliflower ears doesn't exactly portray what th mainstream would consider "alpha looking"
Stop talking while you can still save a shread of dignity, your mouth is making you look like an ignorant fool
haha the thing with yemeni is he got into bodybuilding due to an inferiority complex
bodybuilding didn't make him feel like the "alpha male" he wanted to be so now he tries to be a cage fighter LOL ;D
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The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.
Bodybuilders are not athletes - hope this helps
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Bodybuilders are not athletes - hope this helps
posting false "information" doesn't help anything
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Chick was referring to both as athletes.
Point is i would not be afraid of anyone even 40lbs heavier than me in a fight.
You cant put muscles on your chin, and having 33" legs and a 58" chest wont do anything to stop being KO'd
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Just read this and Chick is making a lot of sense here... mindspin must have given up on his muscles lol
btw, who cares about whether a bodybuilder can fight? what use is that?
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Point is bbuilders may look big and powerful
BUT
in general they are not. Get sweaty eating, cant run a mile without dying etc
Whereas a fighter may look like an average guy but is a true alphamale
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Chick was referring to both as athletes.
Point is i would not be afraid of anyone even 40lbs heavier than me in a fight.
You cant put muscles on your chin, and having 33" legs and a 58" chest wont do anything to stop being KO'd
Both ARE athletes.
Ahletes come in all shapes, sizes and sports...
If learning MMa is a interestto you, then you learn it, whether you have 33 in. legs and a 58 in chest...or you're a buck-o-five soaking wet.
No one cares if your afraid of anyone or not
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There is no athleticism involved in bbuilding AT ALL - name something athletic. Thats right you cant
Stop acting tough - I am making a point, a valid one. And whilst I may only be 235-40lbs and you may out weigh me by what 30lbs? That just means you would make a louder sound as you hit the ground ;D
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Both ARE athletes.
Ahletes come in all shapes, sizes and sports...
If learning MMa is a interestto you, then you learn it, whether you have 33 in. legs and a 58 in chest...or you're a buck-o-five soaking wet.
No one cares if your afraid of anyone or not
Ha ha ha hahhahahahahahaha ha ahahahahah Bwahahahaha hah !!111!1111!1!1!1 Oh shit LMFAO!
You think bodybuilders are athletes!!!1!????
Hah ah ahahhaha hahahahahahah!!1!1!
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Pudzi looks like a bber and he is very athletic... probably more than some mma fighters...
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Bodybuilding requires dedication to stick to diet and lift weights.
No athleticisim.
NBA NFL football NFL athletics wrestling boxing tennis swimming all require athleticism. BBuilding does NOT.
Pudz is an athlete - bodybuilders are not.
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Bodybuilding requires dedication to stick to diet and lift weights.
No athleticisim.
NBA NFL football NFL athletics wrestling boxing tennis swimming all require athleticism. BBuilding does NOT.
Pudz is an athlete - bodybuilders are not.
Is throwing a javelin considered athletic? How about the shotput, or discus?
Who cares if YOU think its a sport, or that BBers are athletes?
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Yes javelin, shot and discus are highly athletic - not just strength.
Thing is it isnt just me who affirms that bbuilders are not athletes - its almost everyone on this board. Also you clearly care about it as you are always keen to call them 'athletes'
I am more of an athlete than pro bbuilders -
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Yes javelin, shot and discus are highly athletic - not just strength.
Thing is it isnt just me who affirms that bbuilders are not athletes - its almost everyone on this board. Also you clearly care about it as you are always keen to call them 'athletes'
I am more of an athlete than pro bbuilders -
It's not almost everyone...it's guys like you who have never walked a mile in my shoes
I really dont care as my paycheck is the same whether you believe I'm an athlete or not.
I've been a Gladiator, bowled in a professional league, and carry a 9 handicap in Golf...and I'm a pro bodybuilder.
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1. proof of gladiator 'athleticism' please
2. bowling is a skill not atleticism
3. i know 75year old men with lower handicaps - a skill not athleticism
4. your paycheck is the same as what? dont you dare say an athlete - cos you would be a liar of epic proportions
5. you are a pro bodybuilder only in name - i doubt you could qualify for the olympia (even if you were eligible)
6. Guys like me make up this board - we dont put up with shit, agree drugs are 2% of equation and that lee priest curls 315lbs for reps. Take you BS to bb.com please
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Just read this and Chick is making a lot of sense here... mindspin must have given up on his muscles lol
btw, who cares about whether a bodybuilder can fight? what use is that?
What use is having over developed muscles that do nothing ???
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They may do nothing for you but inside schmoes panties - in the mirage hotel, las vegas i assure you they are doing a lot
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It's not almost everyone...it's guys like you who have never walked a mile in my shoes
I really dont care as my paycheck is the same whether you believe I'm an athlete or not.
I've been a Gladiator, bowled in a professional league, and carry a 9 handicap in Golf...and I'm a pro bodybuilder.
Ha ha! Your paycheck sucks! You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke. Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.
Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.
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1. proof of gladiator 'athleticism' please
2. bowling is a skill not atleticism
3. i know 75year old men with lower handicaps - a skill not athleticism
4. your paycheck is the same as what? dont you dare say an athlete - cos you would be a liar of epic proportions
5. you are a pro bodybuilder only in name - i doubt you could qualify for the olympia (even if you were eligible)
6. Guys like me make up this board - we dont put up with shit, agree drugs are 2% of equation and that lee priest curls 315lbs for reps. Take you BS to bb.com please
Proof? Catch a few re-runs...every event was athletic.
My paycheck is the same no matter what YOU think...need me to dumb that down for you?
I'm a pro BB in name, IFBB, and contracts....BTW...I host the Olympia these days, I dont have to qualify as I'm retired from competition
Guys like you who make up this board are an enigma to me...spending countless hours on a BB site doing nothing but making every thread into a homo related topic and trying to convince everyone else that you are who you say you are
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Guys like you who make up this board are an enigma to me...spending countless hours on a BB site doing nothing but making every thread into a homo related topic and trying to convince everyone else that you are who you say you are
you have more posts than he does. What does that make you ???
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Ha ha! Your paycheck sucks! You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke. Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.
Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.
If you had any clue as to what my paycheck was, you would see what a Jackass you just made of yourself (again)...
The "real" business world is where I derive my living, and BB.com (my main contract) made over 130M last year...
Keep flipping burgers, son...
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I googled - I am not an american so cant watch them on youtube
You are not earning the same as LeBron for example stop lying you filthy swine.
If you dont compete you are merely a compere - which is fine
Who i am is no secret. I am an average guy who likes lifting weights, i used to like pro bodybuilding until this site revealed to me what a sordid filthy path littered with needles, spunk and grapefruits pro bbuilding is.
I am here for the humour and the odd interesting thread now. i am just repeating what was told to me about the G4P by BEEFHEAVYWEIGHT i think it was.
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I googled - I am not an american so cant watch them on youtube
You are not earning the same as LeBron for example stop lying you filthy swine.
If you dont compete you are merely a compere - which is fine
Who i am is no secret. I am an average guy who likes lifting weights, i used to like pro bodybuilding until this site revealed to me what a sordid filthy path littered with needles, spunk and grapefruits pro bbuilding is.
I am here for the humour and the odd interesting thread now. i am just repeating what was told to me about the G4P by BEEFHEAVYWEIGHT i think it was.
If you choose to make that statement based on the select few who have chosen to do that stuff...thats your opinion.
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If you had any clue as to what my paycheck was, you would see what a Jackass you just made of yourself (again)...
The "real" business world is where I derive my living, and BB.com (my main contract) made over 130M last year...
Keep flipping burgers, son...
I once was under contract with a company that did well over a billion dollars a year in business. That sure didn't mean I was rich too.
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If you choose to make that statement based on the select few who have chosen to do that stuff...thats your opinion.
Have you ever heard the phrase "where there is smoke there's fire"
What is you official stance on IFBB pros engaging in G4P - Do the IFBB care or personally do you care about it, endorse or support it?
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Have you ever heard the phrase "where there is smoke there's fire"
What is you official stance on IFBB pros engaging in G4P - Do the IFBB care or personally do you care about it, endorse or support it?
Yes, I have heard the phrase...what does it have to do with what were talking about?
Name me the top 20 BBers in the world...how many do you believe deal in this?
Do you not watch football because of the Michael Vick conviction?
How about baseball because of the steroid bullshit?
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It wasn't a dumb post. Your exaggerative perception of what he is said is "dumb", however, that is your reading comprehension, not his point.
What he said was that many people get into bb'ing and consequently think they are instant alpha male toughguys. At no stage did suggest what you claim he was saying. He's talking about people who believe added muscle inceases their fighting potential far more than is actually true.
You're way smarter than taking ye olde "indignation exaggeration" angle of an argument. I don't know why you are lowering yourself to it. It really is the method of the morose.
The same could be said about MMA, face it the main base for Bodybulding AND MMA is insecure males wanting to be alpha males. A professor once put it best, when you suck at sports, school, and have no talent for making money, and you are not cool, the main things that determine a alpha male in America, then you turn to MMA. And many of you confirm that with your "TapOut twinks remarks". Let's face it American males today are nothing more than wannabes, because their families and society has failed them in making and showing examples of true alpha males.
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you have more posts than he does. What does that make you ???
A pro BB that posts on a BB board for 8 years
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Two forum moderators - both legends in their own minds - openly and viciously fighting over "alpha maleness" on a bodybuilding message board. Where else but Getbig can you find this shit?
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I buy Nike shoes regularly. They do a couple billion a year.
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Yes, I have heard the phrase...what does it have to do with what were talking about?
Name me the top 20 BBers in the world...how many do you believe deal in this?
Do you not watch football because of the Michael Vick conviction?
How about baseball because of the steroid bullshit?
We need to concentrate on more significant matters, like keeping steroids out of T-ball!
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My comprehension is just fine, thank you...
First, he's speaking from his OWN references as he would have no knowledge of whether anyone actually got into bodybuilding to be the "alpha male"...so the original argument is ridiculous at best
Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost? I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...
The very debate is silly, thus the comment as to being "dumb"....comparing two different athletes who train completely different, have different goals, etc....is ludicrous.
Whilst I completely disagree with you on his comment being "dumb", when you justify it with something that isn't a misrepresentation of what he said, that passes the regulatory committee's stringent guidlines. :)
Human beings are on this earth due absolutely to idea that only the strong survive. So to say that it is "dumb" to suggest that most people who lift weights didn't start with a goal to increase their alpha male status (be it for vag, conflict, whatever) is in my opinion, the dumb comment. If anything it's so blatantly obvious it isn't worth mentioning. It is worth mentioning that after a little while, most of us realised we were not actually increasing in fight potential as much as the people around us changed their perception. Some people, of course, believe their own hype.
Aside from that...what if you're a toughguy that just happend to get into BB? I guess you automatically become a pussy, right? All skills are lost? I boxed as a youth, and was pretty damn good t it...
Absolutely, that is great example, worth debating. Yes, that is correct. The moment you began bodybuilding you instantly lost all potential to box. You became a pussy. Anybody with two classes of MMA could beat you ::)
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I think it's funny that all MMA fans automatically assume that everyone who does MMA training is a badass.
I will give it up to guys who have fought successfully....but the average gym rat is the average gym rat, be it MMA or BBing . No one is better than the other
Yeah, that's a good comment. Although surely you can see how right now outside of MMA circles there is a perception that boxing training = fight potential, whereas the truth is actually a little more complicated than that.
I think in a few years, when MMA is more popular it might just start to dawn upon people (as in regular society) that it isn't only all about whether you can throw a punch. When that happens, I think your comment will be more true. Right now, there are some guys who could beat the shit out of you if you let them, but if you know how to fight on the ground, they've got very little chance of doing anything other than demolishing you quickly.
I think I've said this about 4 times now, I thought the same until I saw early UFC. It's shocking just how different things go when the guy has no perception of ground training (and you can't use the example of GSP dominating that last fight, UFC 1 was much more clinical than that). Even the guys fighting and getting dominated on the ground train for it, thesedays. The difference when they didn't is hilarious. Bare knuckle fighting and these beasts are beaten without really being punched.
It might be different here in australia. We don't have wrestling in highschool. It just isn't done. You'd honestly almost have superpowers in one on one fights if you knew how to fight with wrestling or BJJ. US might be a bit different.
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BB = all show no go.
Trained mma fighter = real life bad ass.
Yes, but could an MMA beat a top pro BB on a pro contest stage in a posedown?
Different sports , different goals.
That is like having a lawyer do an operation on ya instead of an MD or vice versa.
I guess we can send in Lebron James to score the winning goal in a hockey game or have an NHL player post up on Shaq...I will never understand these kind of "comparisons" or need to have bodybuilders fight in MMA.
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Yeah, that's a good comment. Although surely you can see how right now outside of MMA circles there is a perception that boxing training = fight potential, whereas the truth is actually a little more complicated than that.
I think in a few years, when MMA is more popular it might just start to dawn upon people (as in regular society) that it isn't only all about whether you can throw a punch. When that happens, I think your comment will be more true. Right now, there are some guys who could beat the shit out of you if you let them, but if you know how to fight on the ground, they've got very little chance of doing anything other than demolishing you quickly.
I think I've said this about 4 times now, I thought the same until I saw early UFC. It's shocking just how different things go when the guy has no perception of ground training (and you can't use the example of GSP dominating that last fight, UFC 1 was much more clinical than that). Even the guys fighting and getting dominated on the ground train for it, thesedays. The difference when they didn't is hilarious. Bare knuckle fighting and these beasts are beaten without really being punched.
It might be different here in australia. We don't have wrestling in highschool. It just isn't done. You'd honestly almost have superpowers in one on one fights if you knew how to fight with wrestling or BJJ. US might be a bit different.
I see your point as well. To expand on what I'm saying, I mean that just because someone is schooled in the arts be it jujitsu , grappling, muy tai or boxing you are really not a person to be reckoned with unless you are physically capable enough and proficient enough in your discipline that you can use it in a real world, real time situation...against a person who has bad intentions.
We all know the guy who's a "black belt' and tries his moves on you...and they don't work, or you just knock him on his ass. So he tells you "no put your arm out like this" and it still doesn't work LOL
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Yes, but could an MMA beat a top pro BB on a pro contest stage in a posedown?
Different sports , different goals.
That is like having a lawyer do an operation on ya instead of an MD or vice versa.
I guess we can send in Lebron James to score the winning goal in a hockey game or have an NHL player post up on Shaq...I will never understand these kind of "comparisons" or need to have bodybuilders fight in MMA.
I think the point was what's more useful in life, useless big muscle, or the ability to defend yourself from several attackers at once and walk around with no worries because you know for the most part you can handle the situation 99% of the time?
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I think the point was what's more useful in life, useless big muscle, or the ability to defend yourself from several attackers at once and walk around with no worries because you know for the most part you can handle the situation 99% of the time?
I can only assume that you are much younger than i. at 25 years old I could see where that would be somewhat important, being in clubs and bars rather frequently. But as you get older the likelihood that you are gonna have to "throw down" dwindles significantly, whereas being a muscular dude is still a worthwhile pursuit and helps with banging women
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I can only assume that you are much younger than i. at 25 years old I could see where that would be somewhat important, being in clubs and bars rather frequently. But as you get older the likelihood that you are gonna have to "throw down" dwindles significantly, whereas being a muscular dude is still a worthwhile pursuit and helps with banging women
I'm 30, and bounced in clubs for 8 years. I would agree with you, but there is always the situation that you're at a foreign country (on vacation) with your wife...let's say mexico, you're enjoying a romantic walk in the evening and some local thugs try to mug you. Being an MMA badass would most certainly be an advantage in this situation, whereas being ronnie coleman would be useless.
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I'm 30, and bounced in clubs for 8 years. I would agree with you, but there is always the situation that you're at a foreign country (on vacation) with your wife...let's say mexico, you're enjoying a romantic walk in the evening and some local thugs try to mug you. Being an MMA badass would most certainly be an advantage in this situation, whereas being ronnie coleman would be useless.
You bounced... where? Kindergarden??? You are dellusional... I also bounced and let me tell you that you CANNOT handle 5 guys in one time and you ARE NO MATCH to a gun... So, being a "tough mma" guy might bring you more problems than benefits...
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You bounced... where? Kindergarden??? You are dellusional... I also bounced and let me tell you that you CANNOT handle 5 guys in one time and you ARE NO MATCH to a gun... So, being a "tough mma" guy might bring you more problems than benefits...
Agreed.....I think these guys watch too many movies. Even two on one is a difficult situation.
The bottom line is, the very argument is ridiculous...you could insert anybody into it and come out with the same conclusion...
the MMA fighter will have a clear and distinct advantage in a MMA fight...big surprise.
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If you had any clue as to what my paycheck was, you would see what a Jackass you just made of yourself (again)...
The "real" business world is where I derive my living, and BB.com (my main contract) made over 130M last year...
Keep flipping burgers, son...
Obviously you have no idea who I am and I'm willing to bet $5,000 right now that I make more money than you. Let's get Ron involved and make this wager "son".
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I'm 30, and bounced in clubs for 8 years. I would agree with you, but there is always the situation that you're at a foreign country (on vacation) with your wife...let's say mexico, you're enjoying a romantic walk in the evening and some local thugs try to mug you. Being an MMA badass would most certainly be an advantage in this situation, whereas being ronnie coleman would be useless.
You'd get shot plain and simple, if not behaed. You see what those gangs and drug cartels are doing to people in Tijuana? Hell, they even killed a border officer. And the dudes in Brazil don't play neither...This isn't a Jean Claude Van Damn movie.
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The same could be said about MMA, face it the main base for Bodybulding AND MMA is insecure males wanting to be alpha males. A professor once put it best, when you suck at sports, school, and have no talent for making money, and you are not cool, the main things that determine a alpha male in America, then you turn to MMA. And many of you confirm that with your "TapOut twinks remarks". Let's face it American males today are nothing more than wannabes, because their families and society has failed them in making and showing examples of true alpha males.
You are correct. Both MMA & Bodybuilding draw mainly insecure young men. But, those who turn to bodybuilding quickly find that there is no money in it, you have to become a drug dealer just to compete at the local level and after they've built all that useless muscle, they're still not the alpha dog. At least the guys who turn to MMA get to be part of a growing sport and they are able to develop real athletic skills.
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I buy Nike shoes regularly. They do a couple billion a year.
lol.
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Obviously you have no idea who I am and I'm willing to bet $5,000 right now that I make more money than you. Let's get Ron involved and make this wager "son".
WOW...a multi-millionaire AND worlds toughest guy.
A getbig original
I didn't know Ron prepared your taxes this year...my bad
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Why be concerned with "toughness" anyway?
Its not something I even think about...? Does that come with being under 6'? hmmmm
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Yes, but could an MMA beat a top pro BB on a pro contest stage in a posedown?
Different sports , different goals.
That is like having a lawyer do an operation on ya instead of an MD or vice versa.
I guess we can send in Lebron James to score the winning goal in a hockey game or have an NHL player post up on Shaq...I will never understand these kind of "comparisons" or need to have bodybuilders fight in MMA.
That's the whole point. What does winning a bodybuilding contest mean? NOTHING! Even if you're Mr. Olympia, you're king of a dying "sport" that, aside from a bunch of horny schmoes, hardly anyone watches.
I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with building the body, for the purpose of enhancing performance, improving health and aesthetics. But, being a 250 juiced up monkey doesn't mean shit. Bodybuilding, as it is today, is a joke.
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WOW...a multi-millionaire AND worlds toughest guy.
A getbig original
I didn't know Ron prepared your taxes this year...my bad
Never said I was a tough guy. But, I want to make this bet. We'll give Ron the money to hold and hire an independent accountant to review our income for the last three years. If you made more than me, it's an easy $5k. Let's go.
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That's the whole point. What does winning a bodybuilding contest mean? NOTHING! Even if you're Mr. Olympia, you're king of a dying "sport" that, aside from a bunch of horny schmoes, hardly anyone watches.
I would like to say that there is nothing wrong with building the body, for the purpose of enhancing performance, improving health and aesthetics. But, being a 250 juiced up monkey doesn't mean shit. Bodybuilding, as it is today, is a joke.
Whats it mean? Everything if your a competitive BB
You're as clueless as Basile
Time to get off the BB site.....become a mod at GetMMA.com
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"my daddy is better than yours"
"big muscles don't mean anything"
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mindspin...
when you were a muscular guy... are you saying it meant NOTHING to you?
when you commanded respect just by your very appearance everywhere you walked... people looked in awe... the rush, the ego, the pride...
you had conquered your body and achieved a look you were after... a power over self known by few... that feeling of self-efficacy extended itself even into the way you walked and talked... thats confidence... thats an alpha male
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You are correct. Both MMA & Bodybuilding draw mainly insecure young men. But, those who turn to bodybuilding quickly find that there is no money in it, you have to become a drug dealer just to compete at the local level and after they've built all that useless muscle, they're still not the alpha dog. At least the guys who turn to MMA get to be part of a growing sport and they are able to develop real athletic skills.
great dude, why don't you save us all some braincells and time and go start posting on an MMA board since you have so much respect and admiration for it, the question begs to be asked why you would spend so much time posting at a board dedicated to a hobby that you have no respect for. ::)
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mindspin...
when you were a muscular guy... are you saying it meant NOTHING to you?
when you commanded respect just by your very appearance everywhere you walked... people looked in awe... the rush, the ego, the pride...
you had conquered your body and achieved a look you were after... a power over self known by few... that feeling of self-efficacy extended itself even into the way you walked and talked... thats confidence... thats an alpha male
I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.
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great dude, why don't you save us all some braincells and time and go start posting on an MMA board since you have so much respect and admiration for it, the question begs to be asked why you would spend so much time posting at a board dedicated to a hobby that you have no respect for. ::)
Most of my posts today are in fact in the GetBig MMA board. I didn't start this thread but it has to do with both bodybuilding & MMA so I commented on it. But, as I said, I do believe there is a good place for bodybuilding, not as it is today, but as I believe it should be.
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I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.
Translation: you came to all these rationalizations AFTER you realized you sucked and was never going to be a pro...
You're like the fools that always seem to find Jesus....in Jail
You "moved on" because you had no choice.
What "delusional world" am I living in, exactly? I'm at the top of my game, retired on a win, have numerous contracts, MC the Olympia and a host of other shows, travel all over, made numerous national commercials, movies, etc...
The joke...you're looking at in the mirror
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Whats it mean? Everything if your a competitive BB
You're as clueless as Basile
Time to get off the BB site.....become a mod at GetMMA.com
I see you are ignoring my wager. Let me make this really easy for you. I've made close to $600,000 per year for each of the last three years. If you made more, make the bet and pick up an easy $5,000. If you didn't, STFU :-*
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Translation: you came to all these rationalizations AFTER you realized you sucked and was never going to be a pro...
You're like the fools that always seem to find Jesus....in Jail
You "moved on" because you had no choice.
What "delusional world" am I living in, exactly? I'm at the top of my game, retired on a win, have numerous contracts, MC the Olympia and a host of other shows, travel all over, made numerous national commercials, movies, etc...
The joke...you're looking at in the mirror
You didn't win that show and everyone knows it. ::)
And, I NEVER wanted to be a pro. Why would I? There is no money it. I would have had to become a drug dealer. And I would have had to jeopardize my health. The life of a pro bodybuilder is a miserable one.
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You didn't win that show and everyone knows it. ::)
And, I NEVER wanted to be a pro. Why would I? There is no money it. I would have had to become a drug dealer. And I would have had to jeopardize my health. The life of a pro bodybuilder is a miserable one.
Please...it wasn't close. Amazing how no one who was there saw it as anything but a clear victory.
Of course you never wanted to be a pro...AFTER you failed at trying.
I assume you are a lifetime natural?
As for your wager, you're right...you make more than I do. Congratulations Hopefully, I can make the bills this month
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Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding ;D ;D ;D
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Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding ;D ;D ;D
This is the reason getbig.com is the best forum in the world.
Not to mention for a long while we had a troll who refused to post a pic with 33,000 posts moderating and dishing out advice on the Training forum.
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I went through the insecure phase of my life in my early 20s and thought bbing was the answer. The biggest I ever got was around 230lbs with 8-10%BF. Puny by bodybuilding standards but huge to the average person. The only people that were impressed were horny schmoes and impressionable up & comers who wanted to be the next Mr. O. Everyone else had a negative reaction to it. Just walking down the beach I would hear regular comments about steroids. Most girls thought I was too big and were grossed out. Being big and winning bodybuilding shows is not at all what I thought it would be. Once I took it as far as I could, I moved on. The amount of effort that goes into being big & shredded can be put to much more fruitful use and that's what I did. Guys like Chick make me laugh. They're stuck in a time warp living in a delusional world.
I really don't get why you are so soured on BBing, or being a big dude in general Mindspin. I take pride in what i have accomplished.
I not as developed as you were at your best, but I'm no slouch...and i don't feel that people are as negative towards my body as you do. Just the opposite, My perception is most people are impressed in a good way.
And no....i don't hang around the gym 24/7 fishing for compliments ;D ;D
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This is the reason getbig.com is the best forum in the world.
Not to mention for a long while we had a troll who refused to post a pic with 33,000 posts moderating and dishing out advice on the Training forum.
Why...did that fairy finally man up and post a pic?
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Doesn't anyone else find it funny that one of the mods of a bodybuilding board absolutely despises bodybuilding ;D ;D ;D
actually it fits perfectly because getbig is more anti bodybuilding
guys that hate bodybuilding yet can't stop talking about it ::)
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actually it fits perfectly because getbig is more anti bodybuilding
guys that hate bodybuilding yet can't stop talking about it ::)
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good point
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Whose body would you rather have. Chics or Mindspin (when they were in shape). Also, whose body is more attractive to the general public. Whose body is more apt for sports and being athletic
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I really don't get why you are so soured on BBing, or being a big dude in general Mindspin. I take pride in what i have accomplished.
I not as developed as you were at your best, but I'm no slouch...and i don't feel that people are as negative towards my body as you do. Just the opposite, My perception is most people are impressed in a good way.
And no....i don't hang around the gym 24/7 fishing for compliments ;D ;D
I'm not at all soured on bbing. I just get a perverse joy out of bursting people's bubbles. It's why I beat on man-faced she beasts who think the reason everyone is staring at them is because they're so hot. Or delusional juice monkeys that walk around thinking they're the shit. When they come to the realization that the world isn't as they perceive it, and that all of the drugs, time in the gym, endless diets, hours in tanning beds, etc. amount to nothing, well that's just priceless :)
That said, building a physique like the one you're describing is something to admire. Being and looking fit, athletic and healthy is what bodybuilding is to me.
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I see your point as well. To expand on what I'm saying, I mean that just because someone is schooled in the arts be it jujitsu , grappling, muy tai or boxing you are really not a person to be reckoned with unless you are physically capable enough and proficient enough in your discipline that you can use it in a real world, real time situation...against a person who has bad intentions.
We all know the guy who's a "black belt' and tries his moves on you...and they don't work, or you just knock him on his ass. So he tells you "no put your arm out like this" and it still doesn't work LOL
Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Now that this is out of the way.....
Certain arts lend themselves to being more practical than others. Arts wherein the practicioners practice against a live resisting opponent tends to be more practical. In Judo, Jiujitsu, boxing, muay thai, kyoshukin, where you are sparring full contact, I highly doubt you will have a BB or a high level guy having to ask you to "put your arm out like this..." They will take it, or set you up where your arm is there for the taking. That being said, mastering a particular discipline or range is no indicator of combat effectiveness. There is a NAIA wrestler in our academy with little to no BJJ training who can dominate because of his athletic ability and "heavy hips." If he were allowed to punch, he'd be hell on wheels. Although I can tap him, he, if he were allowed to strike while on the ground would be able to KO me if it were permitted. The point of MMA is to show that combat sports has evolved, and you need to be competent in all ranges and master at one (where you can default to when in trouble.). And size and strength do play a role, no matter what people may say, extreme size that inhibits athleticism is useless.
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Why...did that fairy finally man up and post a pic?
haha, no I was actually referring to Bluto with that reference but I suppose pumpster isn't too far off now that I think about it.
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Ha ha! Your paycheck sucks! You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke. Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.
Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.
500k or so a year is not real money? I'm about to call bullshit, and I think bb (in it's current state) sucks.
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500k or so a year is not real money? I'm about to call bullshit, and I think bb (in it's current state) sucks.
I make over $500k a year and live very well. Never said it wasn't real money.
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Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Now that this is out of the way.....
Certain arts lend themselves to being more practical than others. Arts wherein the practicioners practice against a live resisting opponent tends to be more practical. In Judo, Jiujitsu, boxing, muay thai, kyoshukin, where you are sparring full contact, I highly doubt you will have a BB or a high level guy having to ask you to "put your arm out like this..." They will take it, or set you up where your arm is there for the taking. That being said, mastering a particular discipline or range is no indicator of combat effectiveness. There is a NAIA wrestler in our academy with little to no BJJ training who can dominate because of his athletic ability and "heavy hips." If he were allowed to punch, he'd be hell on wheels. Although I can tap him, he, if he were allowed to strike while on the ground would be able to KO me if it were permitted. The point of MMA is to show that combat sports has evolved, and you need to be competent in all ranges and master at one (where you can default to when in trouble.). And size and strength do play a role, no matter what people may say, extreme size that inhibits athleticism is useless.
ding ding ding!!!
I make over $500k a year and live very well. Never said it wasn't real money.
Hahahaha, sure you do..and while you're at it you're a leer jet flying cage fighting playmate screwing cage fighter, right ?
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Why is extreme size that inhibits athleticism useless if it provides some sort of satisfaction for the person?
How many of us need athleticism in modern life anyway? I don't know about you but its for me to play a "sport"...
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Carrying extreme muscle which has no function is as useful as carrying around 30lbs extra of fat e.g
Why be 260 with X amount of strength
When you can be 230 and be just as strong - that 30lbs other than personal satisfaction is useless.
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Carrying extreme muscle which has no function is as useful as carrying around 30lbs extra of fat e.g
Why be 260 with X amount of strength
When you can be 230 and be just as strong - that 30lbs other than personal satisfaction is useless.
If you're an IFBB pro (which the title and thread is about)...it's certainly not useless.
What IS useless....is the topic
It's a retarded as saying that an MMA fightrers skills are useless on a BB stage
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Fedor would walk up KO you in a second take the mic off you, provide an entertaining and humourous seminar with interactive demonstrations then take the winners cheque and donate it to a good cause.
And the whole IFBB could do nothing about it. In fact the competitors would applause and laugh at his interesting anicdotes
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Fedor would walk up KO you in a second take the mic off you, provide an entertaining and humourous seminar with interactive demonstrations then take the winners cheque and donate it to a good cause.
And the whole IFBB could do nothing about it. In fact the competitors would applause and laugh at his interesting anicdotes
Are you drunk?
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I do not drink.
Why do you ask?
Right now i am eating wheaten bread and jam with lemonade
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I do not drink.
Why do you ask?
Right now i am eating wheaten bread and jam with lemonade
Just a guess...based on your comment
stoned?
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No sir. I do not touch drugs at all. I am a clean living man.
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I personally don't believe that you need to be a trained MMA fighter or juiced up bodybuilder to mask some sort of insecurity. More important than anything, is your sense of confidence and mindset. Instead, I am refering to the juiced up meatheads who walk around thinking they're tough guys (99% of bodybuilders). Sorry, guys...you ain't shit.
I guess what I don't get is the "you ain't shit" part of this. Because in what respect is that person not shit? If you have no interest in fighting then potentially not being a super-hard fist machine doesn't matter because you might be good at real life, i.e. have a personality, interesting hobbies, nice girlfriend whatever.
I take your point about it being lame to walk around with imaginary lat syndrome, or to project a false image of aggresive fighting ability, but only because I think anyone who actively looks for a fight is only fighting themselves, or their dad when he used to beat the crap out of them as a child.
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Ha ha! Your paycheck sucks! You work in an industry that dwindles by the day because MOST people think its a joke. Sad thing is, that you actually think you make good money...lol.
Guys like you can never make it in the real business world, because the minute you walk into an interview, board room or whatever, it is instantly known that you are a drug-dealing felon.
Now not to sound like a holier-than-thou guy, but makes me laugh when people rip into the bodybuilding world, when they have come to a sight called "getbig.com" about bodybuilding and actively joined up, and chosen to spend half their free time on here. It must hold some interest for you eh Spinney? ;D
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You just gotta love some of the guys on here.
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Chick is owning the piss out of everyone on this thread, and without much effort I might add.
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LOL. Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO!
Sure bodybuilders are athletes. Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!
And here is that "pudgy and lazy" BJ Penn, the UFC LIGHTWEIGHT champ, showing his athletisism.
Bottom line, if you want to spend your life building gobs of useless muscle, that's fine. Just understand, that when it's all said and done, all that muscle gets you nothing. No money. No fame. No health. No nothing. Worse yet, A 155LB "pudgy" twerp like BJ Penn can dance with your girl, and you can't do shit about it ;D
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too bad most street fights aren't determined by doing pool jumps, MindSpit. ::) :-*
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too bad most street fights aren't determined by doing pool jumps, MindSpit. ::) :-*
Athleticism comes into play, and BJ clearly has it. Musclebound juice monkeys like Chick are as fragile as a kitten. Look at Phil Health. Laid out flat from lunging to the side...pathetic ::)
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No sir. I do not touch drugs at all. I am a clean living man.
Sounds like a Republican Senator who's been arrested for having a hard drive full of child porn. :D
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LOL. Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO!
Sure bodybuilders are athletes. Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!
And here is that "pudgy and lazy" BJ Penn, the UFC LIGHTWEIGHT champ, showing his athletisism.
Bottom line, if you want to spend your life building gobs of useless muscle, that's fine. Just understand, that when it's all said and done, all that muscle gets you nothing. No money. No fame. No health. No nothing. Worse yet, A 155LB "pudgy" twerp like BJ Penn can dance with your girl, and you can't do shit about it ;D
he cramped up...i know, no other athlete has ever had a leg cramp before
moron
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It seems to happen often with bodybuilders who are dehydrated and on diuretics. Again, another example of what bodybuilders do to "look" big & tough when in fact they are on the verge of collapsing.
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It seems to happen often with bodybuilders who are dehydrated and on diuretics. Again, another example of what bodybuilders do to "look" big & tough when in fact they are on the verge of collapsing.
Realy? This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.
Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...
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Realy? This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.
Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...
My goodness Chick. You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess. He had to be carried off stage...lol. Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system. At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping. Are you really that delusional ???
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My goodness Chick. You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess. He had to be carried off stage...lol. Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system. At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping. Are you really that delusional ???
Didn't Lee's Priest's ex lock up on stage too?
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My goodness Chick. You've been around long enough to remember all sorts of great incidents like Paul Dillet dropping to the ground, in the middle of a contest because he was twitching cramping mess. He had to be carried off stage...lol. Or how about Mohamed Benaziza actually going into cardiac arrest because of the amount of diuretics he had in his system. At any local show, you're bound to see at least one moron to locks up and has to limp off stage or cut his routine short because of cramping. Are you really that delusional ???
Ive also seen just as many NFL players lock up during games, pitches break their arm while throwing a ball, runners dehydrated, gymnasts running into the horse at full speed, etc, etc...
Are you really that retarded?
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Realy? This is the first video Ive ever seen of a guestposer actually going to the ground....Im sure you could produce a few.
Your argument makes you look like an ignorant fool...
Ha ha ha hah!!! 2 minutes on youtube and look what comes up. Look at these juice monkeys cramp....
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Ive also seen just as many NFL players lock up during games, pitches break their arm while throwing a ball, runners dehydrated, gymnasts running into the horse at full speed, etc, etc...
Are you really that retarded?
No shit! They're cramping up from doing athletic events, not from standing on stage in their underwear. Ha hahahah!! You're the stereotypical meathead with no brains....lol.
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Holy crap these threads are fucking retarded. So you are concluding that a trained MMA fighter could knock out an IFBB pro bodybuilder, who is not a trained fighter? What a fucking brilliant conclusion!! Maybe you can shed some light on the outcomes of these battles too!! I've always wondered who would win a fight (because fighting is really all that matters in life) between:
An MMA fighter and a professional baseball player?
An MMA fighter and a professional golfer?
An MMA fighter and a professional piano player?
An MMA fighter and a professional polo player?
An MMA fighter and a professional swimmer?
An MMA fighter and a professional bowler?
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Holy crap these threads are fucking retarded. So you are concluding that a trained MMA fighter could knock out an IFBB pro bodybuilder, who is not a trained fighter? What a fucking brilliant conclusion!! Maybe you can shed some light on the outcomes of these battles too!! I've always wondered who would win a fight (because fighting is really all that matters in life) between:
An MMA fighter and a professional baseball player?
An MMA fighter and a professional golfer?
An MMA fighter and a professional piano player?
An MMA fighter and a professional polo player?
An MMA fighter and a professional swimmer?
An MMA fighter and a professional bowler?
You've not gotten my point. All of the sports you just listed have nothing to do with looking tough, athletic, strong, etc. Bodybuilding is all about "looking" like you can do all these things, when in fact, bodybuilders truly are muscle bound.
Like I said before, it's like a VW Bug with a Ferrari body. It might look like a badass car, but in reality, all it can do is leak oil in your driveway...lol.
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No shit! They're cramping up from doing athletic events, not from standing on stage in their underwear. Ha hahahah!! You're the stereotypical meathead with no brains....lol.
No shit...I didnt see anyone just standing around in their underwear...I saw some BBers dehydrated down to competition weight and posing/ flexing
Show me tyhe video of someone standing in their underwear and just cramping for no reason...I'm sure you have a few on your desktop
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No shit...I didnt see anyone just standing around in their underwear...I saw some BBers dehydrated down to competition weight and posing/ flexing
Show me tyhe video of someone standing in their underwear and just cramping for no reason...I'm sure you have a few on your desktop
It's sad to see you desperately reaching like this Bob....very sad.
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You've not gotten my point. All of the sports you just listed have nothing to do with looking tough, athletic, strong, etc. Bodybuilding is all about "looking" like you can do all these things, when in fact, bodybuilders truly are muscle bound.
Like I said before, it's like a VW Bug with a Ferrari body. It might look like a badass car, but in reality, all it can do is leak oil in your driveway...lol.
Nobody gets your point because its retarded...Most BBers dont bodybuild t look tough, look athletic, or strong...they bodybuild and compete to look like a bodybuilder and to compare and compete against others to see who has the best physique...
All the other freudian shit your talking about is obviously from your OWN lack of accomplishments...you're as see through as they get....the disgruntled ex BB with a chip on his shoulder as he was a failure in trying to become pro...now on the other side of the coin, talking about what a waste it was, etc...
LOL...you're a pathetic little man
Not our fault you didnt have what it took....accept it and move on. Why take it out on everyone else?
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You've not gotten my point. All of the sports you just listed have nothing to do with looking tough, athletic, strong, etc. Bodybuilding is all about "looking" like you can do all these things, when in fact, bodybuilders truly are muscle bound.
Like I said before, it's like a VW Bug with a Ferrari body. It might look like a badass car, but in reality, all it can do is leak oil in your driveway...lol.
Actually, bodybuilding is about building ones body to what they want to look like. The only people who think they do this in order to "look tough" are the people who know nothing about it.
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Nobody gets your point because its retarded...Most BBers dont bodybuild t look tough, look athletic, or strong...they bodybuild and compete to look like a bodybuilder and to compare and compete against others to see who has the best physique...
All the other freudian shit your talking about is obviously from your OWN lack of accomplishments...you're as see through as they get....the disgruntled ex BB with a chip on his shoulder as he was a failure in trying to become pro...now on the other side of the coin, talking about what a waste it was, etc...
LOL...you're a pathetic little man
Not our fault you didnt have what it took....accept it and move on. Why take it out on everyone else?
Hmmm...interesting theories, yet way off. Someone started this thread and I merely offered my opinions. I'm sorry that they hurt your feelings :-\
I can assure you that I never once aspired to become a professional bodybuilder. All pro bodybuilders are criminals. All pro bodybuilders are unhealthy. And most pro bodybuilders are broke. Not sure why anyone would want anything to do with that ???
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Hmmm...interesting theories, yet way off. Someone started this thread and I merely offered my opinions. I'm sorry that they hurt your feelings :-\
I can assure you that I never once aspired to become a professional bodybuilder. All pro bodybuilders are criminals. All pro bodybuilders are unhealthy. And most pro bodybuilders are broke. Not sure why anyone would want anything to do with that ???
And you still never answered my question....were you natural?
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Hey guys. I think some pro bodybuilders are tough dudes.
At the 1996 Olympia in Chicago, outside the hotel while waiting for Taxi....a guy tried to act tough and ran his mouth to future Olympia Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie straight up picked the guy up and literally threw him. Yes actually threw him.
If Ronnie choose to go into MMA...he would have been dangerous. I think Branch Warren, Dorian, and Cormier would have been good too.
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And you still never answered my question....were you natural?
Everyone who knows me here knows that while I competed in the 90s, I was juiced to the gills. Which is why my perspective on this is so salient. When I walked around at 230lbs, I was lean and looked strong. And while I could out bench the average joe, I could hardly run up a flight of stairs without getting winded. If I held a pose too long, I too cramped up. And, if I did anything athletic, I easily pulled something.
Today, I weigh 210. I mountain bike, hike, do yoga, practice BJJ and lift weights. I have more functional strength, more endurance, more flexibility and feel much better. I've lived both lives and, for me, this one is much better.
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you make my point for me. Chick might "look" more Alpha-Male than BJ Penn, but BJ penn could walk up to Chick, slap him in the mouth, and Chick would not be able to do or say shit. He'd have to stand there and take it like the biatch that he is.
Or a bodybuilder can simply carry around a gun and bitch slap the MMA fighter in the mouth, who would not be able to say or do anything about it either. ::)
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Everyone who knows me here knows that while I competed in the 90s, I was juiced to the gills. Which is why my perspective on this is so salient. When I walked around at 230lbs, I was lean and looked strong. And while I could out bench the average joe, I could hardly run up a flight of stairs without getting winded. If I held a pose too long, I too cramped up. And, if I did anything athletic, I easily pulled something.
Today, I weigh 210. I mountain bike, hike, do yoga, practice BJJ and lift weights. I have more functional strength, more endurance, more flexibility and feel much better. I've lived both lives and, for me, this one is much better.
So you were juiced to the gills, competing, but had no aspirations of turning pro?
WTF was your point?
As I thought...your own miserable conditioning was just that...your own
I was also 240 lbs...competing, and doing athletic events as an American Gladiator...running, tackling, climbing walls, etc....
Whats sad is that you cant simply admit to the truth...you failed. You "chose" to slim down and not compete because you simply werent good enough....had you climbed the ladder of success, I highly doubt on the eve of your pro debut, you would have had an epithany and decided that this "wasn't the life for you"...
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We can't all be as succesful as you chick.
haha
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So you were juiced to the gills, competing, but had no aspirations of turning pro?
WTF was your point?
As I thought...your own miserable conditioning was just that...your own
I was also 240 lbs...competing, and doing athletic events as an American Gladiator...running, tackling, climbing walls, etc....
Whats sad is that you cant simply admit to the truth...you failed. You "chose" to slim down and not compete because you simply werent good enough....had you climbed the ladder of success, I highly doubt on the eve of your pro debut, you would have had an epithany and decided that this "wasn't the life for you"...
Sorry but you're wrong. Competitive bodybuilding is something I did before growing up.
If you want to talk about failure, why don't we look at your track record. You say you're at the "top of your game". What exactly is "your game"?
If it's bodybuilding, last time I checked, you hadn't won the Olymipa or Arnold, so you're not at the top there. So, is your game broadcasting? If so, you're not at the top of any sports broadcaster list. Is your game acting? I don't recall any Bob Chick Oscar wining speeches...again not at the top. So what is your game. Bowling? Golf? LOL. You've failed at everything you claim is your "game".
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We can't all be as succesful as you chick.
haha
Hey behind every successful person is a pack of Haters. (kidding Monster_tri)
seriously. We are lucky to have IFBB pros like Bob posting here and people need to show them some respect.
this is a bodybuilding site.....not a true MMA site.
I get the feeling that although people post here, they are not not fans of bodybuilding and actually resent bodybuilders.
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Sorry but you're wrong. Competitive bodybuilding is something I did before growing up.
If you want to talk about failure, why don't we look at your track record. You say you're at the "top of your game". What exactly is "your game"?
If it's bodybuilding, last time I checked, you hadn't won the Olymipa or Arnold, so you're not at the top there. So, is your game broadcasting? If so, you're not at the top of any sports broadcaster list. Is your game acting? I don't recall any Bob Chick Oscar wining speeches...again not at the top. So what is your game. Bowling? Golf? LOL. You've failed at everything you claim is your "game".
Truth hurts doesn't it?
As for my resume...it speaks for itself, loser.
You thought you were a big man spouting how much you make (allegedly)...but the fact is...all the money in the world couldn't buy the one thing you wanted, a pro card....you had to earn it on your own merrit....and you werent good enough
Now you want to sit here on a BB site, and talk down about BBers.....you're a joke
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LOL. Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO!
Sure bodybuilders are athletes. Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!
what are your thoughts on sammy sosa throwing out his back by sneezing?
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You've not gotten my point. All of the sports you just listed have nothing to do with looking tough, athletic, strong, etc. Bodybuilding is all about "looking" like you can do all these things, when in fact, bodybuilders truly are muscle bound.
Like I said before, it's like a VW Bug with a Ferrari body. It might look like a badass car, but in reality, all it can do is leak oil in your driveway...lol.
You have not gotten the point... I just wonder how the hell are you a mod in a bbing forum... Other thing is that you repeat yourself over and over again... low quality poster...
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it seems to me that yemeni still hasn't gotten over the insecurities he felt as a kid
he got into bodybuilding to get respect, he heard a few people whispering steroids so he quit and now puts down anybody that didn't have the negative feelings he had, people that actually enjoy bodybuilding and are proud to call themselves bodybuilders
notice his problems with layne norton and mike arvilla, these guys are passionate about bodybuilding and he did all the he could to make them feel like pathetic losers for enjoying it
now mma is the new fad that gets "respect" and makes men feel like men so he's on that bandwagon
you'd think a guy with a family and a successful business would be above being so bitter and insecure
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Truth hurts doesn't it?
As for my resume...it speaks for itself, loser.
You thought you were a big man spouting how much you make (allegedly)...but the fact is...all the money in the world couldn't buy the one thing you wanted, a pro card....you had to earn it on your own merrit....and you werent good enough
Now you want to sit here on a BB site, and talk down about BBers.....you're a joke
Your resume certainly speaks for itself. You're a classic underachiever who has fallen short at everything you've aspired for. You're not at the top of any game as you claim you are.
And the truth is what it is. I never wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Why would I? What does one get out of being a professional bodybuilder? There is no money in it. The fans are schmoes. Mainstream laughs at you. You have to break the law. And you have to ruin your health. Seriously. What is the upside ???
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Your resume certainly speaks for itself. You're a classic underachiever who has fallen short at everything you've aspired for. You're not at the top of any game as you claim you are.
And the truth is what it is. I never wanted to be a pro bodybuilder. Why would I? What does one get out of being a professional bodybuilder? There is no money in it. The fans are schmoes. Mainstream laughs at you. You have to break the law. And you have to ruin your health. Seriously. What is the upside ???
So why were you "juiced to the gills" and competing in BB competitions?
As for being an underachiever....I turned pro. Won the USA, took runner up at 2 pro shows, competed in the Olympia, won my last show as a pro, host the Olympia weekend, write for Flex magazine, represent the athletes, have made numerous commercials/ movies, TV appearances, model for Marvel comics as Capt America, have contracts with numerous companies within the BB community including BB.com/ AMI...
Truth is...youre a loser. And all the money in the world couldnt buy you the one thing you wanted: to win
The upside is, you get to spend countless hours on a bodybuilding forum as a moderator trying to convince people your not a loser....
How's that working for you?
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THIS THREAD IS gayer then gay
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So why were you "juiced to the gills" and competing in BB competitions?
As for being an underachiever....I turned pro. Won the USA, took runner up at 2 pro shows, competed in the Olympia, won my last show as a pro, host the Olympia weekend, write for Flex magazine, represent the athletes, have made numerous commercials/ movies, TV appearances, model for Marvel comics as Capt America, have contracts with numerous companies within the BB community including BB.com/ AMI...
Truth is...youre a loser. And all the money in the world couldnt buy you the one thing you wanted: to win
The upside is, you get to spend countless hours on a bodybuilding forum as a moderator trying to convince people your not a loser....
How's that working for you?
Hmmm...let's address each of your points shall we?
As I mentioned before, competitive bodybuilding is something I did before I grew up. I matured and grew out of it.
And yes, you are an underachiever for the simple fact that you never reached the top of the profession you dedicated your life to. What's the highest you ever placed at the Olympia? 17th? LOL.
You write for Flex? Oh brother ::) Please share with everyone how much that pays...it's lughable. You rep athletes? Wow! What an achievement ::) Commercials, movies, TV, etc....ha ha! Have you been recognized for any of your acting work through any awards? LOL...you're a dismal failure in the acting world.
As for me winning, I actually won most of the shows I competed in. It's no big achievement. Running a marathon or climbing Halfdome was way harder than getting ready for a show. I never even attempted to do a pro qualifier. I had no interest once I realized what a silly "sport" it was. And, I have won many other things that are, to me, much more valuable and fulfilling than getting oiled up in a thong and flexing for a bunch of horny schmoes.
Countless hours on a bodybuilding forum? You have waaaay more posts than me. :-\
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Hmmm...let's address each of your points shall we?
As I mentioned before, competitive bodybuilding is something I did before I grew up. I matured and grew out of it.
And yes, you are an underachiever for the simple fact that you never reached the top of the profession you dedicated your life to. What's the highest you ever placed at the Olympia? 17th? LOL.
You write for Flex? Oh brother ::) Please share with everyone how much that pays...it's lughable. You rep athletes? Wow! What an achievement ::) Commercials, movies, TV, etc....ha ha! Have you been recognized for any of your acting work through any awards? LOL...you're a dismal failure in the acting world.
As for me winning, I actually won most of the shows I competed in. It's no big achievement. Running a marathon or climbing Halfdome was way harder than getting ready for a show. I never even attempted to do a pro qualifier. I had no interest once I realized what a silly "sport" it was. And, I have won many other things that are, to me, much more valuable and fulfilling than getting oiled up in a thong and flexing for a bunch of horny schmoes.
Countless hours on a bodybuilding forum? You have waaaay more posts than me. :-\
Showing your ignorance once again, my failing friend...
Being a pro BB is much more than just placing in shows...Olympia included. I've managed to make a nice living from the sport, without having to solely rely on contest placings.
No one cares if you won most of the shows you competed in...you never attempted to qualify because you realized you werent good enough...plain and simple. Nothiong else would explain taking boatloads of steroids (as you mantioned)...unless you're a complete retard (which is possible)
As for you "oiling up, wearing a thong and posing for horny schmos"...LOL...Not quite sure what "shows" you were winning. I've competed for over 30 years and never once wore a thong or posed for schmo's....
Comparing post counts is a joke..I've been posting since 2001.
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LOL. Chick claims bodybuilders are athletes and to substantiate his point he talks about his golf & bowling game....LMAO!
Sure bodybuilders are athletes. Check out Phil Health injuring himself while performing an astonishing feat of athleticism (1:40)....lunging to the side bwahahah!
And here is that "pudgy and lazy" BJ Penn, the UFC LIGHTWEIGHT champ, showing his athletisism.
Bottom line, if you want to spend your life building gobs of useless muscle, that's fine. Just understand, that when it's all said and done, all that muscle gets you nothing. No money. No fame. No health. No nothing. Worse yet, A 155LB "pudgy" twerp like BJ Penn can dance with your girl, and you can't do shit about it ;D
You do understand that the guy you are calling pudgy and lazy is smaller than you and weaker than you yet would make you cry within 2 seconds. You would look like someone getting ready to be executed begging for their pussy life before you could take a breath. But pretty sure you would'nt have to worry about the fucking your girl thing. He would be stepping down to far for that.
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You do understand that the guy you are calling pudgy and lazy is smaller than you and weaker than you yet would make you cry within 2 seconds. You would look like someone getting ready to be executed begging for their pussy life before you could take a breath. But pretty sure you would'nt have to worry about the fucking your girl thing. He would be stepping down to far for that.
BJ would own me in 2 seconds. I put pudgy in quotes, becasue someone else called him that.
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I think the better question is, "Would an IFBB Pro beat any person who is in shape in a fight?" The answer is no.
Flex 's martial arts with his strengh is good enough to clean out the whole mma. And Craig (along with Lelly and some kid) allegedly can kill and burn someone...so we have a chance.
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BJ would own me in 2 seconds. I put pudgy in quotes, becasue someone else called him that.
I don't think BJ is pudgy. He is soft looking but far from pudgy. He actually as some abs stick through sometimes. His carb intake is so high. It isn't like he has rolls over his belt.
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I don't think BJ is pudgy. He is soft looking but far from pudgy. He actually as some abs stick through sometimes. His carb intake is so high. It isn't like he has rolls over his belt.
I agree with you, but by bodybuilding standards, he is a fat bastard.
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Flex 's martial arts with his strengh is good enough to clean out the whole mma. And Craig (along with Lelly and some kid) allegedly can kill and burn someone...so we have a chance.
LOL. If that were true, why doesn't he get into MMA. That broke-ass "thug" would finally be able to pay his bills.
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LOL. If that were true, why doesn't he get into MMA. That broke-ass "thug" would finally be able to pay his bills.
Shure helped against the NINJA's. ;)
Point sparring is not combative. Killing and burning a defenseless female isn't something most would advocate.
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I agree with you, but by bodybuilding standards, he is a fat bastard.
Well I am pretty sure BB is very far from BJ's mind. I am also pretty sure not one BB in the world can do what he does on the ground. So having muscle really aren't needed in his case. I also bet if he got most BB's down on the ground that little pudgy body would be beating the shit out of them and all they could do is lay there and take it.
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Well I am pretty sure BB is very far from BJ's mind. I am also pretty sure not one BB in the world can do what he does on the ground. So having muscle really aren't needed in his case. I also bet if he got most BB's down on the ground that little pudgy body would be beating the shit out of them and all they could do is lay there and take it.
Hey man, you're arguing my side. I said the same thing a few pages back. But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game".
The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes. They are drug dealers/abusers. Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport. It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications. And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.
Imagine that. Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia. :-[
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Hey man, you're arguing my side. I said the same thing a few pages back. But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game".
The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes. They are drug dealers/abusers. Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport. It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications. And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.
Imagine that. Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia. :-[
It is true about BB's. They are overly muscled to do anything but stand in one spot and pose. That basically is what they are made to do. For some reason that is what they consider an achievement. I personally do not think BB is athletic at all. Lifting weights does not make you an athlete. Lifting weights was something a long time ago everyone frowned upon because it hindered your athletic performance (except football where they wanted you bigger but wanted you to lift lighter weights so you didn't lose speed or agility, the two things you do lose when you get overly muscled).
Some people consider BB a sport because it guys and girls competing against each other. And mix in the dieting and weightlifting and that is considered the recipe for an athlete. Again BB's could be considered athletes. But, they are far from being athletic. BB is truly just a glorified beauty pageant like Miss America or a bikini contest for men. Except they are judged on their bodies not their faces.
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Hey man, you're arguing my side. I said the same thing a few pages back. But, we've got the "legend" Bob Chick claiming that bodybuilders are "athletes", that bodybuilding is a great "sport" and that he is at the "top of his game".
The truth is, competitive bodybuilders are not athletes. They are drug dealers/abusers. Competitive bodybuilding is not a sport. It's a psychiatric illness (muscle dysmorphic disorder), which leads to addiction, health complications, criminal activity and a whole host of other complications. And, in spite of coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia, this is the "Sport" that Bob claims to be at the top of.
Imagine that. Being at the bottom of a sport, that's not even a sport, but a medical condition no different from anorexia. :-[
Really burns your ass that despite being "juiced to the gills", that you couldn't even get out of the local level, doesn't it?
LOL...what a fuckin clown...a internet loser trying to talk smack
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Really burns your ass that despite being "juiced to the gills", that you couldn't even get out of the local level, doesn't it?
LOL...what a fuckin clown...a internet loser trying to talk smack
you tried your hardest and came in last. I bet you where on suicide watch...ha ha!
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one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.
you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling. if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee. if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.
there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding. when some guy flexes a tricep better than you, you can't flex extra better than him to beat him. all i've seen done is a situation like that is some grab ass on stage and laughing.
as for Bob's "success" in bodybuilding, i think he'd agree he's milked bodybuilding for all it's worth. he most likely makes more than consistent olympia winners by doing bodybuilding related stuff that actually has a paycheck in it. he never won the olympia, but he keeps his name out there.
as for MindSpin, he's a good guy. I'm surprised you're even reacting to bob's comments like this because you usually have a "who gives a shit" atittude. you have to concede bob's gone farther in bodybuilding than you have. of course you could argue you're more succesful than him, if success is measured by a paycheck. neither one of you's gonna be at the soup kitchen anytime soon.
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one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.
you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling. if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee. if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.
there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding. when some guy flexes a tricep better than you, you can't flex extra better than him to beat him. all i've seen done is a situation like that is some grab ass on stage and laughing.
as for Bob's "success" in bodybuilding, i think he'd agree he's milked bodybuilding for all it's worth. he most likely makes more than consistent olympia winners by doing bodybuilding related stuff that actually has a paycheck in it. he never won the olympia, but he keeps his name out there.
as for MindSpin, he's a good guy. I'm surprised you're even reacting to bob's comments like this because you usually have a "who gives a shit" atittude. you have to concede bob's gone farther in bodybuilding than you have. of course you could argue you're more succesful than him, if success is measured by a paycheck. neither one of you's gonna be at the soup kitchen anytime soon.
Good post. And yes. Bob has gone further in bbing than I did. But, to me, competitive bodybuilding is a joke and it's a laughable accomplishment. If coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia is his greatest achievement, then I don't know what to say.
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you tried your hardest and came in last. I bet you where on suicide watch...ha ha!
I think you're going overboard. Chick has not failed at his dream. He's achieved it in a different context. The guy makes over 500k a year working in the fitness industry. he gets paid to work out and to do what he loves. To me, thats living the dream. If you can make 500k+ doing something you love, you've made it.
Sounds like your passions are climbing and running. If you could get paid 500k per year to run marathons and climb all the time, would you do it? You might make more money than Chick, but are you doing what you truly love? Would you be consulting in your spare time for fun if you didn't get paid to do it? would you do it for free? Doubt it.
Being at the very top of your industry is not the end all be all. Would you say the founder of Apple was a failure because he's not generating as much revenue as Bill Gates and since his computer systems are used by far less companies and consumers?
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I don't understand this thread..
I didn't start lifting weights to look tough or like i could kick someones ass. I don't think that's the reason bodybuilders do either.
If that's the reason you start bb in the first place then you are a serious tool (mindspin)
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I wonder if Bob thought he was living the life while being groped by horny schmoes at the Mirage Hotel to pay that weeks rent.
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I think you're going overboard. Chick has not failed at his dream. He's achieved it in a different context. The guy makes over 500k a year working in the fitness industry. he gets paid to work out and to do what he loves. To me, thats living the dream. If you can make 500k+ doing something you love, you've made it.
Sounds like your passions are climbing and running. If you could get paid 500k per year to run marathons and climb all the time, would you do it? You might make more money than Chick, but are you doing what you truly love? Would you be consulting in your spare time for fun if you didn't get paid to do it? would you do it for free? Doubt it.
Being at the very top of your industry is not the end all be all. Would you say the founder of Apple was a failure because he's not generating as much revenue as Bill Gates and since his computer systems are used by far less companies and consumers?
lol! Bob doesn't make $500k year. Ask him how much he makes. You'll laugh your ass off. And I agree, being at the top of your industry isn't the end all be all. But it was Bob who said he was at "the top of his game". I merely pointed the inaccuracy in that statement.
As for Jobs vs. Gates. Both are in the top 1% of income earners in their fields and both have been recognized by their industry as pioneers. So both are at the top of their game.
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I don't understand this thread..
I didn't start lifting weights to look tough or like i could kick someones ass. I don't think that's the reason bodybuilders do either.
If that's the reason you start bb in the first place then you are a serious tool (mindspin)
You are in the minority. The vast majority of kids who aspire to be bodybuilders, think bigger muscles equals strength, respect, more chicks, attention, etc.
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lol! Bob doesn't make $500k year. Ask him how much he makes. You'll laugh your ass off. And I agree, being at the top of your industry isn't the end all be all. But it was Bob who said he was at "the top of his game". I merely pointed the inaccuracy in that statement.
As for Jobs vs. Gates. Both are in the top 1% of income earners in their fields and both have been recognized by their industry as pioneers. So both are at the top of their game.
Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?
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Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?
Homosexual oil sheiks pay well so it's plausible. Depends on how many were in the hotel room at the Mirage.
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Homosexual oil sheiks pay well so it's plausible. Depends on how many were in the hotel room at the Mirage.
Well google shows me this picture of the deluxe hotel room, similar to the room 7 by the ice machine.By my calculations, 20-25 homosexual arab sheiks could be fit in such a room, if we allow for a variance of 10 or so pulling out because they realised Bob would never do shit on an Olympia stage, then Id say 12 turned up.
(http://www.lasvegashotel.com/photo/lasvegas/Mirage-Hotel-Las-Vegas-Room.jpg)
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Well google shows me this picture of the deluxe hotel room, similar to the room 7 by the ice machine.By my calculations, 20-25 homosexual arab sheiks could be fit in such a room, if we allow for a variance of 10 or so pulling out because they realised Bob would never do shit on an Olympia stage, then Id say 12 turned up.
(http://www.lasvegashotel.com/photo/lasvegas/Mirage-Hotel-Las-Vegas-Room.jpg)
12 sounds reasonable. 12 times let's say $2500 (I'm not versed in schmoe prices) a pop = $30,000 / session. Taking into account that Bob was probably reduced to bed rest for a week or two after each session in order to let his lower half recuperate then it's certainly feasible for him to pull down quite a nice living working that hotel room a few times a month!
$2500 is probably being real generous considering it's Baghdad Bob.
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12 sounds reasonable. 12 times let's say $2500 (I'm not versed in schmoe prices) a pop = $30,000 / session. Taking into account that Bob was probably reduced to bed rest for a week or two after each session in order to let his lower half recuperate then it's certainly feasible for him to pull down quite a nice living working that hotel room a few times a month!
$2500 is probably being real generous considering it's Baghdad Bob.
Yes, a quick artists rendition of the event shows 8 homosexual arabs fitting quite comfortably around Bob, so had many of the original participants not pulled out due to Bobs lack of credentials in the Bodybuilding world, we could be talking about 20-30 in the room and a months bedrest at minimum.
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Im sure Bob has quoted the $500,000 a year ballpark figure on here, are you saying Bob is a liar, Mindspin?
Read back through this thread and see for yourself.
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Hey Bob. When you let guys rub oil on you, and you flex your muscles for them, is that considered "athletic"?
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Hey Bob. When you let guys rub oil on you, and you flex your muscles for them, is that considered "athletic"?
I've never been there...but you keep referring to "wearing a thong and posing for a bunch of gay men"....so I'm sure you're better versed to answer your own question.
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I've never been there...but you keep referring to "wearing a thong and posing for a bunch of gay men"....so I'm sure you're better versed to answer your own question.
That's not nice, Bob. :(
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Climbing Half Dome is hard? There's a line to go up that bitch every summer day.
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Climbing Half Dome is hard? There's a line to go up that bitch every summer day.
It is when you go with a bunch of Ironman triathletes who set a grueling pace. Plus, the cables were down when we were there, so the final climb was relatively tough. Not the hardest thing I've ever done, but way harder than getting ready for a bbing show...
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It is when you go with a bunch of Ironman triathletes who set a grueling pace. Plus, the cables were down when we were there, so the final climb was relatively tough. Not the hardest thing I've ever done, but way harder than getting ready for a bbing show...
Lot tougher than that local show you were taking "juice to the gills for" huh?
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Lot tougher than that local show you were taking "juice to the gills for" huh?
As a matter of fact it was.
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lol! Bob doesn't make $500k year. Ask him how much he makes. You'll laugh your ass off. And I agree, being at the top of your industry isn't the end all be all. But it was Bob who said he was at "the top of his game". I merely pointed the inaccuracy in that statement.
As for Jobs vs. Gates. Both are in the top 1% of income earners in their fields and both have been recognized by their industry as pioneers. So both are at the top of their game.
I thought I read that Bob was making upwards of 500 or so. No matter what he makes, if he's getting paid well to do something that he loves he's living the dream. Don't tell me consulting is what you love. You're very good at it. You do it for the money. Just like me. If could make 250k-500k a year playing sports I'd be the happiest fuck on earth. I do that in my spare time for fun.
Would you agree that Bob is in the top 1% of income for his industry? Surely he makes more then most of the pro's out there today. It's all relative dude.
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I am sure there is a lot of money in bodybuilding... but interms of respect, a monkey is held in higher reguard. To succeed in a drug supported (illegally), hypersexual (usually homosexual), and prostituted event (notice I did not call it a sport), is nothing to be proud of. To change bodybuilding, you have to change the way it is perceived, maybe the old guard, such as yourself, needs to leave for this modern day homoerotic circus to change into something that resembles a sport. Just my two cents...
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I am sure there is a lot of money in bodybuilding... but interms of respect, a monkey is held in higher reguard. To succeed in a drug supported (illegally), hypersexual (usually homosexual), and prostituted event (notice I did not call it a sport), is nothing to be proud of. To change bodybuilding, you have to change the way it is perceived, maybe the old guard, such as yourself, needs to leave for this modern day homoerotic circus to change into something that resembles a sport. Just my two cents...
you sound gay
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I thought I read that Bob was making upwards of 500 or so. No matter what he makes, if he's getting paid well to do something that he loves he's living the dream. Don't tell me consulting is what you love. You're very good at it. You do it for the money. Just like me. If could make 250k-500k a year playing sports I'd be the happiest fuck on earth. I do that in my spare time for fun.
Would you agree that Bob is in the top 1% of income for his industry? Surely he makes more then most of the pro's out there today. It's all relative dude.
Actually it absolutely is what I love. I quit a great paying and secure job to do this. When I wake up in the morning, I can't wait to get to my desk. My assistant brings me a fresh pot of coffee and boom, the day starts.
The projects I work on are diverse & challenging. The clients I have are incredibly smart. And, I work only with products that I personally love. I get paid to do something I'd be doing for free. It doesn't get any better.
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I am sure there is a lot of money in bodybuilding... but interms of respect, a monkey is held in higher reguard. To succeed in a drug supported (illegally), hypersexual (usually homosexual), and prostituted event (notice I did not call it a sport), is nothing to be proud of. To change bodybuilding, you have to change the way it is perceived, maybe the old guard, such as yourself, needs to leave for this modern day homoerotic circus to change into something that resembles a sport. Just my two cents...
QFT!
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you cannot change the perception of bodybuilding because it is what it's always been, a male beauty pageant. calling it or considering it anything other than that would be going against history and common sense.
at the end of the day, comparing two men and awarding points per bodypart is gay and not a sport. it's subjective in scoring and takes no skill. ANYONE can call themselves a bodybuilder.
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Bob did look pretty ridiculous in that Bromance movie he was in. The main guy was supposed to be acting like an idiot caveman, and then Bob came along and was the real thing.
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It is when you go with a bunch of Ironman triathletes who set a grueling pace. Plus, the cables were down when we were there, so the final climb was relatively tough. Not the hardest thing I've ever done, but way harder than getting ready for a bbing show...
The cables being down makes it relatively hard, but it's not the most grueling thing by any stretch of the imagination. Get above 20,000 feet and then you'll know what hard is.
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I really don't get why you are so soured on BBing, or being a big dude in general Mindspin. I take pride in what i have accomplished.
I not as developed as you were at your best, but I'm no slouch...and i don't feel that people are as negative towards my body as you do. Just the opposite, My perception is most people are impressed in a good way.
And no....i don't hang around the gym 24/7 fishing for compliments ;D ;D
To steal a line from Chick
"Don't sell yourself short, your a terrific slouch! ;D
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Actually it absolutely is what I love. I quit a great paying and secure job to do this. When I wake up in the morning, I can't wait to get to my desk. My assistant brings me a fresh pot of coffee and boom, the day starts.
The projects I work on are diverse & challenging. The clients I have are incredibly smart. And, I work only with products that I personally love. I get paid to do something I'd be doing for free. It doesn't get any better.
So you're saying that you'd do what you do now for free? Essentially chick gets paid for what most of us do in our spare time for pleasure. All I'm saying is that your being a bit harsh on him because of your views of bodybuilding. I can totally understand the way you feel, btw. The industry and the "sport" is a fucking joke.
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So you're saying that you'd do what you do now for free? Essentially chick gets paid for what most of us do in our spare time for pleasure. All I'm saying is that your being a bit harsh on him because of your views of bodybuilding. I can totally understand the way you feel, btw. The industry and the "sport" is a fucking joke.
It may seem harsh, but it is true. BTW, I've just been told that I hurt Chicks feelings and that I should lay off. It's just the Internet folks ::)
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It may seem harsh, but it is true. BTW, I've just been told that I hurt Chicks feelings and that I should lay off. It's just the Internet folks ::)
Still waiting
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Still waiting
Bob, have you ever sold or given free vials to friends?
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what supposedly happened at The Mirage hotel in the room near the ice machine?
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Building a body that has significant muscle will keep you out of most fights because 99% of the world is intimidated by such things...
Now when it comes to fighting, having some skills in fighting will put you at an advantage in real world fighting, however if you are like most of the wannabe sheep world(that watches UFC fights) and because they roll around on the mats at their local jiu jitsu gym...Here's the truth...If you have never taken a punch and tasted you own bleed in a real fight and didn't freak out by it, rolling on the mat with skinny little boys ain't gonna make you a tuff guy or make you any better off in the real world...In fact it will probably give you an illusion that you are badder then you really are...Unless you are a skilled fighter that can take a punch...Then nothing else really matters...Its a wash...
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It may seem harsh, but it is true. BTW, I've just been told that I hurt Chicks feelings and that I should lay off. It's just the Internet folks ::)
I don't agree with a few of your points, but we'll agree to disagree. I think its pretty lame that you've been censored. However, you fell into the "flame" style type of posting for awhile there, so thats why they've decided to try and stop you from posting in this thread.
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I don't agree with a few of your points, but we'll agree to disagree. I think its pretty lame that you've been censored. However, you fell into the "flame" style type of posting for awhile there, so thats why they've decided to try and stop you from posting in this thread.
No one has censored this fool...he's free to say whatever he wants....and has
Now he's put himself in a position that he needs to qualify what he said, and he has yet to do so
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Good post. And yes. Bob has gone further in bbing than I did. But, to me, competitive bodybuilding is a joke and it's a laughable accomplishment. If coming in last place at the Mr. Olympia is his greatest achievement, then I don't know what to say.
Do you think Bob could move up the Olympia latter if he took the plunge and started to dabble in Plazmosis?
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Never said I was a tough guy. But, I want to make this bet. We'll give Ron the money to hold and hire an independent accountant to review our income for the last three years. If you made more than me, it's an easy $5k. Let's go.
FYI, both Big Bobs and I are accountants and willingly offer our services for free to analyze your's and Chic's income, ofcourse we are boud by professional ethics to keep your information confidential so we will only issue a statement on who makes more and nothing else.
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Also, I agree that in order to be successful in BB you have to break the law in terms of taking steroids as well as injure your health. I think that even Bob would have to agree with that statement, this is what makes BB a joke, the fact that you have to be a criminal in order to suceed at the sport. They should make drug testing mandatory in the IFBB if they actually care about their athletes. And Bob what do you say to the criticism that BB is in huge decline popularity wise and are you or any of the other pros doing anything to stop this decline?
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FYI, both Big Bobs and I are accountants and willingly offer our services for free to analyze your's and Chic's income, ofcourse we are boud by professional ethics to keep your information confidential so we will only issue a statement on who makes more and nothing else.
This bigger income contest is meaningless... cocaine dealers make more money than any of those two, but reguardless no one is going to respect a drug dealer. This is the core point. Bodybuilding has become a symbol of filth and illegal activities. Notice how Mr. Chick refuses to answer if he has ever taken steroids. It is irrelevant if he has made more money. One made it legally, and the other by taking illegal drugs. The fact is that nobody in society likes or respects steroid abusers, ie.. the boos that baseball players caught with steroids receive. Lifting weights is a healthy activity, and bodybuilding.. well is just gay...
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This thread is a riot...Why don't you two guys get together and have someone measure who has the bigger cock? How many pages away are we from one of you two suggesting this?
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This is getting out of hand, I think a MODERATOR should step in ;)
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The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:
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The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:
ab-so-lute perfection right there ;) Atleast 3 olympias should be his...
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ab-so-lute perfection right there ;) Atleast 3 olympias should be his...
Great post TechnoViking! Personally I think he should have won 95, 96, 97 and 98 Olympia. Which do you think were his best showings?
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I find it hilarious that you are this huge advocate of evolution and yet you have evolved into a 60 something year old that is concerned about another man's finances who lives completely on the other side of the world from you.
If I turn out to be as concerned with such trivial matters when I am your age, remind me to shoot myself.
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I don't concern myself with what others have or earn. I do take exception to jerks like Bob who try to taint others who challenge them on discussion boards. He is a father and I am a grandfather. I have a son older than he is and I wonder how he would feel if others painted him as a pedophile? He is getting some of the shit he dishes out to others with little concern for anything decent at all. I am calling it like I see it. He isn't the only asshole on this forum, either. They pop up with regular monotony. About what you would expect from people who are bitter and have done hardly anything in their lives.
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Fighters are better at fighting. Bodybuilders are better at bodybuilding.
Hope this helps.
Obvious but I guess this fact needs to be pointed out to the "I HATE BODYBUILDING AND BODYBUILDERS BUT I'M ON A BODYBUILDING WEBSITE" group.
AN MMA fighter would crush, a football player, an NBA player, a MLB player, .....the list goes on.
The only group that might stand a chance are boxers.
So you see bodybuilders are part of a Very Large group that couldn't take an MMA fighter.
How would the top MMA fighter fair in a posedown against Victor Martinez? Apples and oranges.
And I don't think anyone is dumb enough to believe a BB is in the same cardiovascular shape as a fighter. No one would even try to make that argument.
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Just an opinion. Chick is an IFBB pro. He should be shown respect on a bodybuilding message board. This isn't a MMA board. Post MMA topics on the MMA board...or at a MMA site.
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Unintentionally, I almost got in a fight at a sporting game (as in, I was a participant) recently. The people watching all got excited because the "larger than average" guy was about to get in a scuffle with someone smaller.
The irony being that afterwards, the larger than average guy realises "if this guy has thrown 6 punches of practice at a punching bag in his adult life, I'd have been fucked". :)
That's when the illusion/self delusion really hits home. Fortunately, the great reputation of bodybuilding was protected and I had no need to engage my savage "muscles for show". If I'd have had to have front double bicep'sed my way out of that situation I'd have had problems. Would he have traded posing oil for taking a dive? Who knows.
(Jokes aside, this did happen).
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wow! what a thread we got here.
I got a question for you guys.
Which one would you rather have.
a) Body of prime Arnie.
b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn
ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add.. :)
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wow! what a thread we got here.
I got a question for you guys.
Which one would you rather have.
a) Body of prime Arnie.
b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn
ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add.. :)
A all day long.
I find it a little amusing that a well paid professional, with a family, pushing 40 is concerned about his fighting skills.
I haven't had a fight in almost fifteen years
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A all day long.
I find it a little amusing that a well paid professional, with a family, pushing 40 is concerned about his fighting skills.
I haven't had a fight in almost fifteen years
yap! Same here! If you don't earn your $$ by fighting, then all your great takedowns, submissions and striking abilities will not matter that much.
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yap! Same here! If you don't earn your $$ by fighting, then all your great takedowns, submissions and striking abilities will not matter that much.
And how more does it matter to be a dehydrated, juiced to the gills slab of beef?
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And how more does it matter to be a dehydrated, juiced to the gills slab of beef?
I'm just saying between those 2 choices (in my earlier post), i will take arnie's body anytime.
I don't think we need to talk about the advantages of having arnie's body compared to BJ Penn's since we all post in GETBIG.
A strong physical presence is always an advantage (is arnie too big??? how about prime shawn ray? or paris??).
Fighting skills...well...its cool to have it..
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wow! what a thread we got here.
I got a question for you guys.
Which one would you rather have.
a) Body of prime Arnie.
b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn
ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add.. :)
Which one is stronger? :P
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Arnold was waaaay stronger... Arnold could shoulder press Blow Job Penn
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wow! what a thread we got here.
I got a question for you guys.
Which one would you rather have.
a) Body of prime Arnie.
b) Skills AND Body of BJ penn
ps: you don't get to take part in any competition (bbing or MMA) and you are living in a relatively safe country I might add.. :)
Can't believe this thread is still alive. Better comparison is body of Arnie and skills and body of Frank Mir. One, strictly for show, one for combat sports. BJ is lightweight, at least compare Arnie to a heavyweight. Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Even though I train primarilly BJJ with some kickboxing mixed in, I still like to be lean, so appearance is always going to be important. Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.
I can see Mindspin's analogys, a lot of folks have opined, previously, that someone like Ronnie, Nasser, et al, would wreck shop if they got into an MMA fight, and here is where Mindspin is clearly correct. But to argue about MMA on a bodybuilding site..... ::)
And to clarify, Chick, I was a natural bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.
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The fail-safe solution whenever a thread gets overly heated - take a Nasser break:
There is enough oil in that right bicep to lubricate the engine in my car.
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Body and fighting skill of BJ Penn vs. Body of Arnold = give me Arnold.
Body and fighting skill of Frank Mir vs. Body of Arnold = give me Mir.
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Can't believe this thread is still alive. Better comparison is body of Arnie and skills and body of Frank Mir. One, strictly for show, one for combat sports. BJ is lightweight, at least compare Arnie to a heavyweight. Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters fight. Even though I train primarilly BJJ with some kickboxing mixed in, I still like to be lean, so appearance is always going to be important. Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.
I can see Mindspin's analogys, a lot of folks have opined, previously, that someone like Ronnie, Nasser, et al, would wreck shop if they got into an MMA fight, and here is where Mindspin is clearly correct. But to argue about MMA on a bodybuilding site..... ::)
And to clarify, Chick, I was a natural bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.
To further clarify, Mindspin was a juiced up bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.
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Body and fighting skill of BJ Penn vs. Body of Arnold = give me Arnold.
Body and fighting skill of Frank Mir vs. Body of Arnold = give me Mir.
how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie
Both top dogs in their sport.. :D
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Let's just say I'd rather spend my time in the gym honing my body rather than my grappling skills.
And guess what...that's what I do :D :D And I don't care that an MMA dude could "submit' me.
the chances of my being in that predicament are about nil and zero.
Rather look like this than be a "badass"
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how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie
Both top dogs in their sport.. :D
Damn, that's actually a pretty tough question....Fedor is such a bad ass but his physique is kinda dumpy while Mir looks pretty decent...you would still turn some heads with Mir's physique while with Fedor; he is just a big lookin dude with no definition.
I guess in that question I would have to go with Arnold over Fedor.
Let's just say I'd rather spend my time in the gym honing my body rather than my grappling skills.
And guess what...that's what I do :D :D And I don't care that an MMA dude could "submit' me.
the chances of my being in that predicament are about nil and zero.
Rather look like this than be a "badass"
Exactly.
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I have a question
If MMA fighters/Boxers etc. don't care about muscle, why do a lot of them do a double bicep shot at the weigh ins?
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how about Body and fighting skills of Fedor vs Body of prime Arnie
Both top dogs in their sport.. :D
I would pick fighting skill of Arnie with body of Fedor :D
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Appearance over performance, no way. Kind of like 26" rims on a sports car. Makes no sense.
But why do you think that "performance" of large muscles is measured by fighting ability? ??? Makes no sense.
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I have a question
If MMA fighters/Boxers etc. don't care about muscle, why do a lot of them do a double bicep shot at the weigh ins?
And shave their bodies and tan
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one of the definitions of a "sport" is acting and reacting to the situation around you.
you can even make the argument for "sports" such as golf and bowling. if your ball's in a sand trap you'd hit it differently than off a tee. if you have a 7-10 split you'd bowl differently than if you had a full rack.
there's absolutely no "action and reaction" in bodybuilding.
Sorry bro, but you're wrong here. What do you have to say about situations like in the posedown where if HUGE Nasser hits a most muscular, Ronnie counteracts it by hitching up his thong even further up his crack before flexing his striated glutes?
Or in a candid moment of a gym photoshoot where Joel Stubbs shows off his back, only to have Milos drop his pants, turn around and bend over to show off his ham-glute tie ins?
I could go on, but I'm sure you get the point.
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The flotsam are easily impressed. What most are unaware of is big muscleheads are often recruited as bouncers and doormen. Most that I have seen have taken martial arts courses to prepare them for work like that. Having a large physique is a huge deterrent to anyone thinking of bullying them. Period. Who says having big muscles is useless? If people come into contact in crowded places those muscles come in real handy. I think the public are wise to steer clear of muscleheads. No one knows what they are capable of if stirred up. Common sense suggests that who plays around with the bull often gets the horn. No, not the poofters. I have never been in a fight as an adult. My grip strength alone could tear out ribs from would be assailants and easily break any ordinary Joe's arm. I fear no man but that doesn't mean I would pick a fight with anyone else. It is best to keep things in perspective and have a good sense of humour. If not, then be quick on your feet.
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Unintentionally, I almost got in a fight at a sporting game (as in, I was a participant) recently. The people watching all got excited because the "larger than average" guy was about to get in a scuffle with someone smaller.
The irony being that afterwards, the larger than average guy realises "if this guy has thrown 6 punches of practice at a punching bag in his adult life, I'd have been fucked". :)
That's when the illusion/self delusion really hits home. Fortunately, the great reputation of bodybuilding was protected and I had no need to engage my savage "muscles for show". If I'd have had to have front double bicep'sed my way out of that situation I'd have had problems. Would he have traded posing oil for taking a dive? Who knows.
(Jokes aside, this did happen).
Well said!
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To further clarify, Mindspin was a juiced up bodybuilder who couldn't compete with those with performance enhancing drugs.
No accurate. I won my the light heavy weight and overall at the 94 NCP Mr. Huntington Beach. I then placed 5th at 1996 NPC LA. It was only my fourth show and my second on gear. My sponsor was excited and everyone encouraged me to do the CA the next year. I wanted no part of it. The thought of spending my life poking needles into myself in exchange for plastic trophies did not seem appealing. Instead, I went to college, got married, started a career and the rest is history.
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For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.
I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.
Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!
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For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.
I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.
Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!
Brutal oversaturated pic... looking lean yemini
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Mindspin had a good early juicer physique and would have done ok. His private posing sessions would have been legendary, the gear he would have sold would have been titanic.
Later on, he'd have been the absolute pinnacle of 40 year old tight black shirt clad nightclub dwellers.
I for one cannot believe he threw all that potential away.
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But why do you think that "performance" of large muscles is measured by fighting ability? ??? Makes no sense.
Read it in context. I was referring to my own personal training in BJJ, which I actively compete in. Large muscles can inhibit performance, so performance is the need, not physical appearance of large muscles.
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For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.
I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.
Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!
Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally.
People say this but what the heck is spiritual development? A platitude for sure.
What goofy shoes do some muscleheads wear?
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I'd rather look in good shape day to day, than look fat and have to look for fights to prove myself.
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People say this but what the heck is spiritual development? A platitude for sure.
What goofy shoes do some muscleheads wear?
ethics? what goofy shoes
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Ethics in not spiritual development. I majored in philosophy and did courses in ethics. No spirit around those hallowed halls.
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Ethics in not spiritual development. I majored in philosophy and did courses in ethics. No spirit around those hallowed halls.
thank God ;)
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No accurate. I won my the light heavy weight and overall at the 94 NCP Mr. Huntington Beach. I then placed 5th at 1996 NPC LA. It was only my fourth show and my second on gear. My sponsor was excited and everyone encouraged me to do the CA the next year. I wanted no part of it. The thought of spending my life poking needles into myself in exchange for plastic trophies did not seem appealing. Instead, I went to college, got married, started a career and the rest is history.
You wanted no part of the LA because you took everything under the sun (juiced to the gills, as you said yourself) and could only barely crack the top 5 of a local show....THAT'S when you had you "epithany" and decided you didn't want to compete. Strange why you didn't have this "moment of clarity" BEFORE you stepped on stage.
I also went to college, started a career, got married, had a child, and earned a spot in BB history.....all while being a BB.
You have no business being a mod on this site, and need to recind your status
BTW...still waiting for your answer as to me being a drug dealer....I'm sure my lawyers (who also happen to be the same lawyers as BB.com lawyers) would like to know as well.....of course, your pockets are much deeper, I'm sure.
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i like you both....so you both stay.
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This thread has derailed into basically a dicksize war. So much so that we now find Bob using the L word to try to gain a foothold. At this point, it'd just be wiser to end the discussion.
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Mindspin seems much more controlled, articulate and mature than the Mirage Marauder in this thread.
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You wanted no part of the LA because you took everything under the sun (juiced to the gills, as you said yourself) and could only barely crack the top 5 of a local show....THAT'S when you had you "epithany" and decided you didn't want to compete. Strange why you didn't have this "moment of clarity" BEFORE you stepped on stage.
I also went to college, started a career, got married, had a child, and earned a spot in BB history.....all while being a BB.
You have no business being a mod on this site, and need to recind your status
BTW...still waiting for your answer as to me being a drug dealer....I'm sure my lawyers (who also happen to be the same lawyers as BB.com lawyers) would like to know as well.....of course, your pockets are much deeper, I'm sure.
Wrong again. Six months before I did the LA, I got promoted in my job and made the decision right there and then to make that my last show...win or lose. I decided to put my full focus on my career instead of wasting time in competitive bodybuilding.
As for being a mod here, Ron told me you called crying. What a little biatch you are...lol. I'm doing more for this forum than you ever have/will. I'm introducing thought provoking ideas that generate good discussion. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean that you should cry to Ron and beg him to have me demomded.
As for you being a drug dealer, BRING YOUR LAWYERS. You have no idea what I know...BRING IT!
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why is it bullies are the biggest cry babies when things dont go their way? lol.
this seems to be a pattern.
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Mindspin is one of the better moderators around here. He is standing up to Bob Chick. Moderator vs Patsy and Stooge seems to be a no contest. Let the games begin.
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I love ho he threatens to use the bbing.com lawyers. Can you imagine Bob going into the office of his boss for this? "Excuse me Mr. Deluca. Could I have five minutes of your time? I need your help. You see, I've been bantering on an internet message board, and one of the kids on there said I was a drug dealer. Could I please use your layers to sue him?" LOL! I'm guessing Deluca would say something like "STFU you juice monkey and get back to work"...ha ha!
Bob, in all seriousness, I'm done with this discussion. You're welcome to have the last word and "own" me...
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I love ho he threatens to use the bbing.com lawyers. Can you imagine Bob going into the office of his boss for this? "Excuse me Mr. Deluca. Could I have five minutes of your time? I need your help. You see, I've been bantering on an internet message board, and one of the kids on there said I was a drug dealer. Could I please use your layers to sue him?" LOL! I'm guessing Deluca would say something like "STFU you juice monkey and get back to work"...ha ha!
Bob, in all seriousness, I'm done with this discussion. You're welcome to have the last word and "own" me...
I see that happening. And like the IFBB, Bob doesn't want any part of a courtroom if the word "steroids" is in any court document. I feel bad for Chic cause he can't act like he normally would if he wasn't under the thumb of the IFBB, Weiders and now BB.com. i am sure he would admit everything and just add "whatta bout it" after the admission. He knows everyone knows that we know that he knows we know what he and other pros have done ;D But he has to at least pretend as much as possible that he is the ONLY pro bb that is 100% clean and never did a thing regarding drugs. I can imagine the talk around the dinner table at his house. Just hope he doesn't go postal ;D
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The flotsam are easily impressed. What most are unaware of is big muscleheads are often recruited as bouncers and doormen. Most that I have seen have taken martial arts courses to prepare them for work like that. Having a large physique is a huge deterrent to anyone thinking of bullying them. Period. Who says having big muscles is useless? If people come into contact in crowded places those muscles come in real handy. I think the public are wise to steer clear of muscleheads. No one knows what they are capable of if stirred up. Common sense suggests that who plays around with the bull often gets the horn. No, not the poofters. I have never been in a fight as an adult. My grip strength alone could tear out ribs from would be assailants and easily break any ordinary Joe's arm. I fear no man but that doesn't mean I would pick a fight with anyone else. It is best to keep things in perspective and have a good sense of humour. If not, then be quick on your feet.
lmao
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The flotsam are easily impressed. What most are unaware of is big muscleheads are often recruited as bouncers and doormen. Most that I have seen have taken martial arts courses to prepare them for work like that. Having a large physique is a huge deterrent to anyone thinking of bullying them. Period. Who says having big muscles is useless? If people come into contact in crowded places those muscles come in real handy. I think the public are wise to steer clear of muscleheads. No one knows what they are capable of if stirred up. Common sense suggests that who plays around with the bull often gets the horn. No, not the poofters. I have never been in a fight as an adult. My grip strength alone could tear out ribs from would be assailants and easily break any ordinary Joe's arm. I fear no man but that doesn't mean I would pick a fight with anyone else. It is best to keep things in perspective and have a good sense of humour. If not, then be quick on your feet.
I'll agree that you must have a lot of grip strength. After all, you'll need it with those fat chicks you go out with.
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Melvin, you always read my posts in case I mention you. I read yours for a good laugh. If not from what you say at least from those who join in and post funny things.
A couple of years ago you told the lads you were engaged and then we found out your partner was a bloke. You know, there is still time. Here is what you have to do to be saved. Save up you spare change for enough to hire a willing gal who will let you have a look. Bring a flashlight with you so you aren't scared. When you survey the terrain you won't be so terrified of the female sex and might do something about it. You seem to be a house husband who landed a patsy to keep you. That isn't going to last nor will it fulfill you. Somewhere, somehow, someway you will have to find a way to support yourself that involves actually getting a job instead of these pipedreams you come up with. When you have done these tasks you will be in a better position to have some perspective and won't lower yourself to kissing Bob Chick's butt to get some leverage in the IFBB, etc. I swear, you have no shame on stage nor have you any on Getbig.
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Melvin, you always read my posts in case I mention you. I read yours for a good laugh. If not from what you say at least from those who join in and post funny things.
A couple of years ago you told the lads you were engaged and then we found out your partner was a bloke. You know, there is still time. Here is what you have to do to be saved. Save up you spare change for enough to hire a willing gal who will let you have a look. Bring a flashlight with you so you aren't scared. When you survey the terrain you won't be so terrified of the female sex and might do something about it. You seem to be a house husband who landed a patsy to keep you. That isn't going to last nor will it fulfill you. Somewhere, somehow, someway you will have to find a way to support yourself that involves actually getting a job instead of these pipedreams you come up with. When you have done these tasks you will be in a better position to have some perspective and won't lower yourself to kissing Bob Chick's butt to get some leverage in the IFBB, etc. I swear, you have no shame on stage nor have you any on Getbig.
You seriously believe grip saves your ass in a street fight?
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You wanted no part of the LA because you took everything under the sun (juiced to the gills, as you said yourself) and could only barely crack the top 5 of a local show....THAT'S when you had you "epithany" and decided you didn't want to compete. Strange why you didn't have this "moment of clarity" BEFORE you stepped on stage.
I also went to college, started a career, got married, had a child, and earned a spot in BB history.....all while being a BB.
You have no business being a mod on this site, and need to recind your status
BTW...still waiting for your answer as to me being a drug dealer....I'm sure my lawyers (who also happen to be the same lawyers as BB.com lawyers) would like to know as well.....of course, your pockets are much deeper, I'm sure.
I think that it is unfair to accuse Bob of being a drug dealer since he has never been charged or anything like that, however Bob, do you deny using illegal drugs? do you deny possessing illegal drugs? I am not saying this to be disrepectful, I am just going back to the whole point i made earlier that sucess in BB = breaking the law, which is sad but true.
Also the offer to independently review Bob's and Mindspin's finances still exists
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For anyone who thinks a "hate" bobydbuilding, I'd like to clarify. I don't! I love bodybuilding. In fact, I still train 4 days/week. Still hit a shot in bathroom mirror every morning. Still eat like a bodybuilder. But I don't have the meathead mentality that most bodybuilders have. I'm not obsessed with trying to be 250lbs. I'm not breaking the law to use gear. I'm not yelling or stomping around the gym. I don't walk around with extra tight shirts and goofy shoes.
I strive to develop myself from every angle: physically, mentally, spiritually & emotionally. As it relates to physical development, I strive to continually improve my flexibility, endurance and strength. The net result of that, is that while I may not look like a competitive bodybuilder, I do look bigger than the average person, and I am much more athletic. Bodybuilding is but one component of everything I do in my endless pursuit of personal development.
Here's a pic of me in my hotel room....BOOOOM!
Nice pic, do you have any from your competing days? Also, is Bob considered an elite BB? Would he be top 20, top 30 even ?
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I think that it is unfair to accuse Bob of being a drug dealer since he has never been charged or anything like that, however Bob, do you deny using illegal drugs? do you deny possessing illegal drugs? I am not saying this to be disrepectful, I am just going back to the whole point i made earlier that sucess in BB = breaking the law, which is sad but true.
Also the offer to independently review Bob's and Mindspin's finances still exists
I will guarantee that Bob's drugs were not "illegal" as he had a legit prescription for them....
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I will guarantee that Bob's drugs were not "illegal" as he had a legit prescription for them....
snicker ;D
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snicker ;D
;D
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If Mindspin is indeed sued by Bob that would be the largest meltdown in getbig history, This is worse than the time that 240 caused Bob to Meltdown. I am sure that Mindspin's lawyers would be more competent that BB.com's lawyers
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:D
They have to use their 85 IQ brains for something, like being a punching bag and entertainment for better people.
your mother
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Mindspin is one of the better moderators around here.
Agreed.
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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.
Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.
I think a good moderator would have never posted this response to this topic.
where is your mind at when you post this?? Where is your mind.
fedor himself wouldnt be thinking that...or saying that. But a MODERATOR on a bodybuilding board is thinking it.
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I think a good moderator would have never posted this response to this topic.
where is your mind at when you post this?? Where is your mind.
fedor himself wouldnt be thinking that...or saying that. But a MODERATOR on a bodybuilding board is thinking it.
Kinda funny.
Cause it's kinda true.
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I still train 4 days/week. Still eat like a bodybuilder.
Can you break down your routine for us?
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Let us put some perspective into this thead. Bob Chick is a known bodybuilder and so am I. We post under our own names. I call him a stooge and he implies that I am old, out of the loop, an imbecile, and a pedophile. I own a gym and have a family. Do you think Chick is being fair and decent on this forum? That son of a bitch is a bonafide asshole. I make no apology for saying this. How dare anyone here post such contemptible things about anyone else? Those who post such despicable things should be banned forever from this forum. This includes Goatboy and Debussey. Both assholes and totally irresponsible for what they say. Bob Chick doesn't deserve to be a moderator on any forum.
On the other hand, I am responsible for everything I post here. I so dislike the anonymity that many shelter under. That is really cowardly on the net but I understand and accept it. However, I will never accept that assholes like Goatboy can post here year after year, say whatever he likes, never takes responsibility and never posts a photo. He harvests photos from my site and posts them here. I can take a joke and most of the time I don't mind, but sometimes the flotsam go too far. Just like some women do who want to retaliate. A tolerant guy like me doesn't react to most jibes so some are driven to do and say really awful things. Typical fodder here is to be called old, gay, stupid and even a pedophile. Some dickheads have even attacked my family and former partner. I will always insist that such attacks are removed. I say WTF is this shit. Strong language but no wonder Frank Zane, Arnold S, Larry Scott and other sensible guys don't post here. Why would they bother when they can get tarred and feathered here by anonymous jerks.
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Let us put some perspective into this thead. Bob Chick is a known bodybuilder and so am I. We post under our own names. I call him a stooge and he implies that I am old, out of the loop, an imbecile, and a pedophile. I own a gym and have a family. Do you think Chick is being fair and decent on this forum? That son of a bitch is a bonafide asshole. I make no apology for saying this. How dare anyone here post such contemptible things about anyone else? Those who post such despicable things should be banned forever from this forum. This includes Goatboy and Debussey. Both assholes and totally irresponsible for what they say. Bob Chick doesn't deserve to be a moderator on any forum.
On the other hand, I am responsible for everything I post here. I so dislike the anonymity that many shelter under. That is really cowardly on the net but I understand and accept it. However, I will never accept that assholes like Goatboy can post here year after year, say whatever he likes, never takes responsibility and never posts a photo. He harvests photos from my site and posts them here. I can take a joke and most of the time I don't mind, but sometimes the flotsam go too far. Just like some women do who want to retaliate. A tolerant guy like me doesn't react to most jibes so some are driven to do and say really awful things. Typical fodder here is to be called old, gay, stupid and even a pedophile. Some dickheads have even attacked my family and former partner. I will always insist that such attacks are removed. I say WTF is this shit. Strong language but no wonder Frank Zane, Arnold S, Larry Scott and other sensible guys don't post here. Why would they bother when they can get tarred and feathered here by anonymous jerks.
I think it would be horrendously hypocritical for Bob to complain about allegations made on an internet thread. That much I agree with.
The rest of your post, however, is nothing more than vindication to those who are seeking to get a rise out of you. Every time you throw casual insults at Goatboy, he scores a point in the secret getbig points competition for certain activities rendered.
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People say this but what the heck is spiritual development? A platitude for sure.
What goofy shoes do some muscleheads wear?
Look down at your feet right now Vince, those are the goofy shoes Mindspin talks about...
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Ha ha ha hahhahahahahahaha ha ahahahahah Bwahahahaha hah !!111!1111!1!1!1 Oh shit LMFAO!
You think bodybuilders are athletes!!!1!????
Hah ah ahahhaha hahahahahahah!!1!1!
...and you're a moderator?
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...and you're a moderator?
honestly do you think they are athletes?
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...and you're a moderator?
What......Do you think you could moderate any better?
It's easy to stand on the sideline and criticize.
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You seriously believe grip saves your ass in a street fight?
I don't think you understand the amount of chocolate bars he is rumored to keep in his freezer for the "younger crowd"...It takes great grip strength to break that shit up while in a hurry...Not to mention you try holding down 6 midgets at a time in an unmarked white van while they are all screaming for their mommies all the while the boys in blue are right outside your van :D...
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What......Do you think you could moderate any better?
It's easy to stand on the sideline and criticize.
That is irrelevent anyway. There are very few indications of what the moderators personally do here so his judgement is solely regarding the fact MS actually voices his (popular) opinion here. Of course, in Royalty's case, his opinion is that a fake deity exists - so we're not exactly dealing with a world-class intellectual here ::)
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Could you imagine how hard it would be to prove you weren't a drug dealer? I remember in the 90's when I went to vitamin store and purchase two bottles of "blue nitro"(legal at the time) but now considered drugs, however I picked one up for a friend...Today I would be a considered a drug dealer for doing something like that...And to some people back then was also seen as the same thing...Many many people that deal in legal herbs are considered and called drug dealers by people who just aren't educated on the fact...
My question is did Mindspin actually bring up the "drugs" that Chick may or may not of dealt...Because i know that in public schools Advil is considered a drug by the nurses...Or at least that is what they call it...And they need signatures from parents to DEAL(or give) the drugs to students...
I like Bob and I would hate to see him get caught up in the Titus drama because everyone on her knows that Titus is full of knowledge and it wouldn't take much for a Mindspin private investigator to get some info from Craig...I mean this shit could get really ugly over a couple ego's...ONLY ON GETBIG!!!
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That is irrelevent anyway. There are very few indications of what the moderators personally do here so his judgement is solely regarding the fact MS actually voices his (popular) opinion here. Of course, in Royalty's case, his opinion is that a fake deity exists - so we're not exactly dealing with a world-class intellectual here ::)
All deities are fake, shall we condemn most of the planet?
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That is irrelevent anyway. There are very few indications of what the moderators personally do here so his judgement is solely regarding the fact MS actually voices his (popular) opinion here. Of course, in Royalty's case, his opinion is that a fake deity exists - so we're not exactly dealing with a world-class intellectual here ::)
I'm sure that you are a mental giant. Probably graduated from Harvard at age 19 with your first of several PhD's. Your staggering intellect knows no boundries. We are in awe of you.
But what's funny is that a genius like you has to try to introduce new arguements to this thread....another distraction. I figured you would have provided a mathematical proof and ended this thread pages ago.
Why change the subject. Just elucidate your point with that math proof and end the bickering. Help us see the truth. MMA vs bodybuilding. Hmmm
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I don't think you understand the amount of chocolate bars he is rumored to keep in his freezer for the "younger crowd"...It takes great grip strength to break that shit up while in a hurry...Not to mention you try holding down 6 midgets at a time in an unmarked white van while they are all screaming for their mommies all the while the boys in blue are right outside your van :D...
"Say, mate, can ya direct a fellow muscleman to the Priest funeral?"
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...Those who post such despicable things should be banned forever from this forum. This includes Goatboy and Debussey. Both assholes and totally irresponsible for what they say. Bob Chick doesn't deserve to be a moderator on any forum...
... However, I will never accept that assholes like Goatboy can post here year after year, say whatever he likes, never takes responsibility and never posts a photo. He harvests photos from my site and posts them here. I can take a joke and most of the time I don't mind, but sometimes the flotsam go too far. Just like some women do who want to retaliate. A tolerant guy like me doesn't react to most jibes so some are driven to do and say really awful things. Typical fodder here is to be called old, gay, stupid and even a pedophile. Some dickheads have even attacked my family and former partner. I will always insist that such attacks are removed. I say WTF is this shit. Strong language but no wonder Frank Zane, Arnold S, Larry Scott and other sensible guys don't post here. Why would they bother when they can get tarred and feathered here by anonymous jerks.
This is awesome... I don't post for two weeks, and I can still make Basile melt down from time out! :D
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Wrong again. Six months before I did the LA, I got promoted in my job and made the decision right there and then to make that my last show...win or lose. I decided to put my full focus on my career instead of wasting time in competitive bodybuilding.
As for being a mod here, Ron told me you called crying. What a little biatch you are...lol. I'm doing more for this forum than you ever have/will. I'm introducing thought provoking ideas that generate good discussion. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean that you should cry to Ron and beg him to have me demomded.
As for you being a drug dealer, BRING YOUR LAWYERS. You have no idea what I know...BRING IT!
LOL...what a fuckin lying douchbag.
Yeah, 6 months before the show....yet, despite being promoted, and deciding that BB was a complete waste of time...you still decided to compete....nice try loser
You werent good enough...just admit it and move on.
I dont need to go crying to Ron....I'll tell you the same thing I told him....no one who hates BB like you do needs to be a mod on a BB board. Lets see how long you're still here in theat position.
If you're so all knowing....why haven't you explained to everyone your proof of my "drug dealing"? Still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is....and yes, company lawyers are always interested in some douchbag throwing allegations against a company endorsed athlete.
Feel free, loser
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This is the greatest internet forum in the world.
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LOL...what a fuckin lying douchbag.
Yeah, 6 months before the show....yet, despite being promoted, and deciding that BB was a complete waste of time...you still decided to compete....nice try loser
You werent good enough...just admit it and move on.
I dont need to go crying to Ron....I'll tell you the same thing I told him....no one who hates BB like you do needs to be a mod on a BB board. Lets see how long you're still here in theat position.
If you're so all knowing....why haven't you explained to everyone your proof of my "drug dealing"? Still waiting for you to put your money where your mouth is....and yes, company lawyers are always interested in some douchbag throwing allegations against a company endorsed athlete.
Feel free, loser
This is getting good. Will Yemeni put up or shut up? The ball is in his court now.
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This is getting good. Will Yemeni put up or shut up? The ball is in his court now.
He's been asked no less than 3 times to "put up" and has failed to do so , despite his toughguy talk...
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if he's lying then sue him for defamation then.
Chick you really need some hobbies outside of the bodybuilding world. If you had real hair it would be gray from all this stress.
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This thread = greatness. ;D
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if he's lying then sue him for defamation then.
Chick you really need some hobbies outside of the bodybuilding world. If you had real hair it would be gray from all this stress.
hahahaha i dont know why but that made me laugh. its about time your lame ass made a funny ;D
bench
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He's been asked no less than 3 times to "put up" and has failed to do so , despite his toughguy talk...
Can you prove you haven't ???
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MMA fighters are greater than BB in fighting, BB's are greater than MMA in bodybuilding.
In other news, MS and Chick are having a Fedor/Minotauro like fight. ;D
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But what's funny is that a genius like you has to try to introduce new arguements to this thread....another distraction.
I would argue that your suggestion of his suitability for being a moderator is the distraction responded to in the first place. Perhaps Bob posed it before you - but he's another poor, misguided soul find it difficult to think outside of black and white.
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Getbig has been in need of a thread like this. About time someone threatened to sue someone else.....
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I dont need to go crying to Ron....I'll tell you the same thing I told him....no one who hates BB like you do needs to be a mod on a BB board. Lets see how long you're still here in theat position.
Anybody who has been here long enough has known of MS's opinion for years. He's "still in that position" that could have been questioned years ago.
Funny thing is, though, he's never really abused that position. He has helped to administer a bodybuilding competition or two here for bodybuilding (Mr Getbig), all the while managing to somehow "walk the line" that you perceive he cannot.
Whilst you might have had a point if he were just starting, he's been here for a long time and that's why Ron isn't going to act on your opinion. You're just speculating, whereas the experience speaks for itself.
It wasn't that long ago there were a lot of people against YOU moderating the board (and at the time you were sticking your nose in, yourself). Do you remember when you informed everybody that you would be banning anybody who said anything too negative about Jay's wife? No arguments about the crime, but isn't it interesting what a bit of moderator power did you to? Just as BB.com had began sponsoring getbig, you started deleting threads, moderating etc etc. To me, that's a guy I question. Not saying you do that now, just saying, you cannot talk.
Nowadays, track record wise, on one hand, you've got a guy who has done an okay job and another who still cannot resist taking every moronic bit of bait placed infront of him.
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Anybody who has been here long enough has known of MS's opinion for years. He's "still in that position" that could have been questioned years ago.
Funny thing is, though, he's never really abused that position. He has helped to administer a bodybuilding competition or two here for bodybuilding (Mr Getbig), all the while managing to somehow "walk the line" that you perceive he cannot.
Whilst you might have had a point if he were just starting, he's been here for a long time and that's why Ron isn't going to act on your opinion. You're just speculating, whereas the experience speaks for itself.
It wasn't that long ago there were a lot of people against YOU moderating the board (and at the time you were sticking your nose in, yourself). Do you remember when you informed everybody that you would be banning anybody who said anything too negative about Jay's wife? No arguments about the crime, but isn't it interesting what a bit of moderator power did you to? Just as BB.com had began sponsoring getbig, you started deleting threads, moderating etc etc. To me, that's a guy I question. Not saying you do that now, just saying, you cannot talk.
Nowadays, track record wise, on one hand, you've got a guy who has done an okay job and another who still cannot resist taking every moronic bit of bait placed infront of him.
Exactly. In 5 years i've been here, no one's complained once about MindSpit's modding status, and now that he got bob's sparkled thong in a bunch, he goes crying to Ron like a little bitch.
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If you don't have sufficient connections among your neurons you won't be able to properly moderate anything let alone this crazy place. Somehow they keep things afloat despite having enough flotsam to sink a battleship. Have any of you ever searched for someone in the list of members? It takes ages to scroll through each letter of the alphabet. I mean, who and where are all these people?
Mindspin keeps a steady ship here. I don't think someone debating with a moderator should be able to go above his head and win that way. It would be like my trying to get Goatboy banned. That young kid can't help himself and he has no where else to go where he has a home on the net.
I don't like to see charges and accusations made against anyone here. How is anyone going to prove guilt or innocence on the internet? Can't be done. We can't even prove Chick has real hair. I don't drive a white van but who cares? It is all part of being accepted around here.
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This thread = greatness. ;D
What he said^
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If you don't have sufficient connections among your neurons you won't be able to properly moderate anything let alone this crazy place. Somehow they keep things afloat despite having enough flotsam to sink a battleship. Have any of you ever searched for someone in the list of members? It takes ages to scroll through each letter of the alphabet. I mean, who and where are all these people?
Mindspin keeps a steady ship here. I don't think someone debating with a moderator should be able to go above his head and win that way. It would be like my trying to get Goatboy banned. That young kid can't help himself and he has no where else to go where he has a home on the net.
I don't like to see charges and accusations made against anyone here. How is anyone going to prove guilt or innocence on the internet? Can't be done. We can't even prove Chick has real hair. I don't drive a white van but who cares? It is all part of being accepted around here.
You manage to look incredibly creepy in every pic you take.
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If you don't have sufficient connections among your neurons you won't be able to properly moderate anything let alone this crazy place. Somehow they keep things afloat despite having enough flotsam to sink a battleship. Have any of you ever searched for someone in the list of members? It takes ages to scroll through each letter of the alphabet. I mean, who and where are all these people?
Mindspin keeps a steady ship here. I don't think someone debating with a moderator should be able to go above his head and win that way. It would be like my trying to get Goatboy banned. That young kid can't help himself and he has no where else to go where he has a home on the net.
I don't like to see charges and accusations made against anyone here. How is anyone going to prove guilt or innocence on the internet? Can't be done. We can't even prove Chick has real hair. I don't drive a white van but who cares? It is all part of being accepted around here.
Waiting at the bus station for waifs?
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Vince enjoys liberal use of the word flotsam.
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bis bis!!!
chick rocks...
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Wrong again. Six months before I did the LA, I got promoted in my job and made the decision right there and then to make that my last show...win or lose. I decided to put my full focus on my career instead of wasting time in competitive bodybuilding.
As for being a mod here, Ron told me you called crying. What a little biatch you are...lol. I'm doing more for this forum than you ever have/will. I'm introducing thought provoking ideas that generate good discussion. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean that you should cry to Ron and beg him to have me demomded.
As for you being a drug dealer, BRING YOUR LAWYERS. You have no idea what I know...BRING IT!
haha bob has had ron pm before because i hurt bobby boys feelings
bob did u not enjoy my comparison of u to hulk hogan?
not to mention my posty wostys that bobby boy deletes and my anti bob threads
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ill admit 9 years ago i was very intrigued by bodybuilding.. till i found out what goes around behind the scenes... its gross g4pay... getbig has all taught us what "really happens"
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ill admit 9 years ago i was very intrigued by bodybuilding.. till i found out what goes around behind the scenes... its gross g4pay... getbig has all taught us what "really happens"
so you stop by getbig for what reason? If getbig set you straight why are you still here? Here to read about more private posing stories? Since the sport isn't interesting....what's the point?
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cuz getbig is funny and entertaining... dumbass. this site doesnt have the same flavor as 99% of the other bber websites.. thats a fact.
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cuz getbig is funny and entertaining... dumbass. this site doesnt have the same flavor as 99% of the other bber websites.. thats a fact.
yeah but he didn't mention getbig was fun. He said he came here and was schooled about gay 4 pay. This is a bodybuilding site....and he doesn't find the sport interesting...but most of the posts here are bodybuilding related. So by extension, he must find this board uninteresting too.
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yeah but he didn't mention getbig was fun. He said he came here and was schooled about gay 4 pay. This is a bodybuilding site....and he doesn't find the sport interesting...but most of the posts here are bodybuilding related. So by extension, he must find this board uninteresting too.
most topics on here are non-probb related... where u been??? read the topics on the gossip board... bb related..... but not pro bb related.. big difference.. ...
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I would argue that your suggestion of his suitability for being a moderator is the distraction responded to in the first place. Perhaps Bob posed it before you - but he's another poor, misguided soul find it difficult to think outside of black and white.
no way dude... My statements went with the flow of the thread. Out of left field, you tried to bring my personal spiritual beliefs into the thread. An uneeded, radical shift of direction.
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most topics on here are non-probb related... where u been??? read the topics on the gossip board... bb related..... but not pro bb related.. big difference.. ...
dude this board is probably 70% pro bodybuilder related. Yates vs Coleman, Arnold, Sergio, would you hit it?, Nasser, Levrone, Kai, Heath, some MMA, gay 4 pay rumors, pre contest pics of various pros 6 weeks out ect....
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no way dude... My statements went with the flow of the thread. Out of left field, you tried to bring my personal spiritual beliefs into the thread. An uneeded, radical shift of direction.
I'm just casting a shadow of doubt on your opinion. I'm not looking to debate the subject with you, simply pointing out your judgement is impeccably questionable.
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dude this board is probably 70% pro bodybuilder related. Yates vs Coleman, Arnold, Sergio, would you hit it?, Nasser, Levrone, Kai, Heath, some MMA, gay 4 pay rumors, pre contest pics of various pros 6 weeks out ect....
True but a lot of people go to TMZ.com not to see what the Hollywood actors are really up to but to rip them apart...Trolling has become an art form on many many sites...
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Okay, I'm going to apologize to Bob for implying that he is a drug dealer. In my opinion, 99% of professional bodybuilders fund their enormous steroid/drug habit by dealing on the side or doing Gay4Pay. Based of what I've been told by reputable sources and some PM conversations I've had with Bob, It appears that he is one of the rare exceptions. So, again, my sincere apologies.
Now, we can get back to a better topic. Is bodybuilding a growing or declining sport? If it's declining, how can it be turned around?
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Okay, I'm going to apologize to Bob for implying that he is a drug dealer. In my opinion, 99% of professional bodybuilders fund their enormous steroid/drug habit by dealing on the side or doing Gay4Pay. Based of what I've been told by reputable sources and some PM conversations I've had with Bob, It appears that he is one of the rare exceptions. So, again, my sincere apologies.
Now, we can get back to a better topic. Is bodybuilding a growing or declining sport? If it's declining, how can it be turned around?
Appreciate the apology.
99%?
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Appreciate the apology.
99%?
there were a bunch of numbers after the decimal point but Mindspin rounded it down.
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there were a bunch of numbers after the decimal point but Mindspin rounded it down.
lol. I was just going to say something like that.
But in all seriousness, I personally dealt with many of the pros that were at the top during the mid 90s. I say this not to bash bodybuilding, but simply because it's a fact. Most had the following in common: dumb as hell, horrible training/diet habits, zero knowledge on how to manage their finances, living well beyond their means, dealing on the side and the old "posing sessions". Their drug use did vary greatly. Some used surprisingly low dosages. Others obscene amounts. There were very few exceptions to this. In fact, only one comes to mind, Labrada.
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There are a lot of intelligent bodybuilders who got to the top. Arnold, Zane, Scott, Mentzer, Draper, Labrada, Gaspari, and so on. You can't get to the top if you are a dunce.
Nice to see some closure in this thread. Chick was a deputy sheriff. He knew better than to make mistakes that could end up biting him down the track.
All we can conclude is that Mindspin has no proof to offer so Chick has to be considered innocent of all charges.
What we want to know is if Mindspin got a letter from Chick's lawyer? Can you imagine Chick telling his lawyer the name of the guy making the accusation!
Bob would have proper sources for any chemicals acquired for physique enhancement. Ah, what a farce professional bodybuilding is.
The question remains, does he have real hair?!
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Tom Prince sold me coke and blew me.
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Tom Prince sold me coke and blew me.
No better time on earth.
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lol. I was just going to say something like that.
But in all seriousness, I personally dealt with many of the pros that were at the top during the mid 90s. I say this not to bash bodybuilding, but simply because it's a fact. Most had the following in common: dumb as hell, horrible training/diet habits, zero knowledge on how to manage their finances, living well beyond their means, dealing on the side and the old "posing sessions". Their drug use did vary greatly. Some used surprisingly low dosages. Others obscene amounts. There were very few exceptions to this. In fact, only one comes to mind, Labrada.
There were many exceptions to what you describe...Shawn Ray, Rich Gaspari, lee Haney, Gary Strydom, Troy Zuccolotto, Phil Hill...just off the top of my hea.
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There are a lot of intelligent bodybuilders who got to the top. Arnold, Zane, Scott, Mentzer, Draper, Labrada, Gaspari, and so on. You can't get to the top if you are a dunce.
Nice to see some closure in this thread. Chick was a deputy sheriff. He knew better than to make mistakes that could end up biting him down the track.
All we can conclude is that Mindspin has no proof to offer so Chick has to be considered innocent of all charges.
What we want to know is if Mindspin got a letter from Chick's lawyer? Can you imagine Chick telling his lawyer the name of the guy making the accusation!
Bob would have proper sources for any chemicals acquired for physique enhancement. Ah, what a farce professional bodybuilding is.
The question remains, does he have real hair?!
Real as real gets, Basile...I've ofered many times for anyone here to put there money where their mouth is. Offer still stands
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Real as real gets, Basile...I've ofered many times for anyone here to put there money where their mouth is. Offer still stands
Of course your hair is real. Just shitstirring. This is Getbig, remember.
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Of course your hair is real. Just shitstirring. This is Getbig, remember.
the hair is real, the color is not
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Real as real gets, Basile...I've ofered many times for anyone here to put there money where their mouth is. Offer still stands
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247284.0;attach=328508;image)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247284.0;attach=328508;image)
Gotta love the "G.I. Joe Kung Fu Grip" that Bob is implementing right there.
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Bodybuilders don't accept that a small guy will submit him.
People don't understand, that bodybuilders are like poodles.
Bottom line is. right now MMA fighters rule the world.
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In my opinion, 99% of professional bodybuilders fund their enormous steroid/drug habit by dealing on the side or doing Gay4Pay.
are you implying that if Chick didn't deal drugs on the side (since proof is difficult) then he most definitely did gay4pay?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247284.0;attach=328508;image)
Still photoshopping homoerotic pics in your spare time I see...
LOL
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Bob, you can't deny the fact that if someone wants the drugs at the gym, all they have to do is get in good with the gym "pro" or "competitor". if he doesn't sell them himself, he knows a guy.
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Bob, you can't deny the fact that if someone wants the drugs at the gym, all they have to do is get in good with the gym "pro" or "competitor". if he doesn't sell them himself, he knows a guy.
Whats your point?
That said...WHO CARES?
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Point is, there's no money in bodybuilding, only the top 3 or top 4 makes money.
Most of the Pros ::). make money with g4p or selling drugs.
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Point is, there's no money in bodybuilding, only the top 3 or top 4 makes money.
Most of the Pros ::). make money with g4p or selling drugs.
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REALLY? :o
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where is LEE in al this?..
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where is LEE in al this?..
top or bottom? ;D ;D
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hahah chick is melting. I bet tomorrow he buys a tapout shirt.
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Whats your point?
That said...WHO CARES?
I bet a lot of people care that steroids are sold to young guys in the gyms, the fact that you don't shows a lot.
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There were many exceptions to what you describe...Shawn Ray, Rich Gaspari, lee Haney, Gary Strydom, Troy Zuccolotto, Phil Hill...just off the top of my hea.
Shawn Rays name shouldn't be on that list.
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Bodybuilders don't accept that a small guy will submit him.
People don't understand, that bodybuilders are like poodles.
Bottom line is. right now MMA fighters rule the world.
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I took jujitstu from 1997 until 1999. Lots of people there were poodles too. Trust me
Yo can't lump everyone together and categorize them.
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Bodybuilders don't accept that a small guy will submit him.
People don't understand, that bodybuilders are like poodles.
Bottom line is. right now MMA fighters rule the world.
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I also would like to add that I think pro football is the toughest sport out there. Brock Lesnar couldn't make the Vikings 2nd team back in 2006.
The NFL is the only sport where guys get carted off the field on stretchers, or driven off by emergent units. Guys get paralyzed in the NFL. Way rougher on the body than MMA. I don't think there is a single MMA guy that could make an NFL team.
Imagine Rampage Jackson trying to run over Osi Umenyera or Justin Tuck. Lol
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I also would like to add that I think pro football is the toughest sport out there. Brock Lesnar couldn't make the Vikings 2nd team back in 2006.
The NFL is the only sport where guys get carted off the field on stretchers, or driven off by emergent units. Guys get paralyzed in the NFL. Way rougher on the body than MMA. I don't think there is a single MMA guy that could make an NFL team.
Imagine Rampage Jackson trying to run over Osi Umenyera or Justin Tuck. Lol
Brock was the final cut in 2006. He also didn't play organized football since high school. Definitely a detriment. Football isn't just about raw athleticism, there is a lot of technique. Footwork, and specific skills are necessary for each position, even offensive and defensive lines. It is certainly violent, but MMA is just as much. Sixty minutes versus a maximum of 25. Running full steam, head first (still being done) into another human being isn't a long term healthy thing to do.
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I also would like to add that I think pro football is the toughest sport out there. Brock Lesnar couldn't make the Vikings 2nd team back in 2006.
The NFL is the only sport where guys get carted off the field on stretchers, or driven off by emergent units. Guys get paralyzed in the NFL. Way rougher on the body than MMA. I don't think there is a single MMA guy that could make an NFL team.
Imagine Rampage Jackson trying to run over Osi Umenyera or Justin Tuck. Lol
Exactly.
Could you imagine if all the pro football players deciding to stop playing football and to focus solely on MMA??
Then we would have some awesome fights!
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Still photoshopping homoerotic pics in your spare time I see...
LOL
Its only gay if you want it to be
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This thread has AIDS. "Bob isn't it true bodybuilders take steroids?!" etc. Pointless questions.
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Exactly.
Could you imagine if all the pro football players deciding to stop playing football and to focus solely on MMA??
Then we would have some awesome fights!
We will have great fights. ::) ::) ::)
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We will have great fights. ::) ::) ::)
That is ONE...yes count it....ONE fucking guy....a 300+ lb slow as hell guy with terrible conditioning.
I'm talking about HUNDREDS of strong, fast, well conditioned, elite athletes.
You can't tell me that out of the couple hundred or so linebackers who play NFL football there aren't a few who wouldn't be able to compete at a high level with a few years of MMA training.
What is there even to argue or roll your eyes at??
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I also would like to add that I think pro football is the toughest sport out there. Brock Lesnar couldn't make the Vikings 2nd team back in 2006.
The NFL is the only sport where guys get carted off the field on stretchers, or driven off by emergent units. Guys get paralyzed in the NFL. Way rougher on the body than MMA. I don't think there is a single MMA guy that could make an NFL team.
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Why are so many guys here so obsessed with fighting ability? How often do you end up in a street-fight situation? Unless you're immature or a low-life, probalby few to none. Fighting ability is cool the odd once in a lifetime where you might have to defend yourself, but big muscles look cool 24/7, wherever you go 8) Besides, if you're really concerned about being in situations where you need to fight, why not just carry a weapon? A twink with a gun would scare away any MMA fighter ;)
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Why are so many guys here so obsessed with fighting ability? How often do you end up in a street-fight situation? Unless you're immature or a low-life, probalby few to none. Fighting ability is cool the odd once in a lifetime where you might have to defend yourself, but big muscles look cool 24/7, wherever you go 8) Besides, if you're really concerned about being in situations where you need to fight, why not just carry a weapon? A twink with a gun would scare away any MMA fighter ;)
for once i think i agree with bigbobs
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well nowadays people get more and more violent for no reasons whatsoever , due to the influence of these "mma" and "ufc" crap you see on tv and the internet.
They dont control their frustrations and shortcomings anymore, society ironically promotes the use of violence as a mean to end conflicts even in your neighborhood. Even the 35 + old are sick of getting laughed at by younger unrespectful "kids" who dont give a flying fuck about anything in life.
Everbody's a cagefighter wanabee, so physical encounters for nothing are going to be more and more comon in our western societies, especially with the importation of immigrants who come from tough third world areas and who also promotes and increase greatly violence and the spread of its influence on white youths.
i wouldnt be surprised though that in arab/muslim countries life is less violent and youths are more respectful of other individuals and especially elders. But here in occident, it's changing, people respect nothing and noone, and all think they are as tough as their "hero" they saw on TV the night before...
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Why are so many guys here so obsessed with fighting ability? How often do you end up in a street-fight situation? Unless you're immature or a low-life, probalby few to none. Fighting ability is cool the odd once in a lifetime where you might have to defend yourself, but big muscles look cool 24/7, wherever you go 8) Besides, if you're really concerned about being in situations where you need to fight, why not just carry a weapon? A twink with a gun would scare away any MMA fighter ;)
Well said.
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We will have great fights. ::) ::) ::)
just because Bob sapp lost a couple fights....I dont think he played in the NFL but even if he did....it doesnt mean that MMA is rougher than the NFL. The NFL is way rougher. No question. And WAY more popular. Thats why they get paid the big bucks
NFL players are tough......and big ....and fast...and have vertical leaps
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Why are so many guys here so obsessed with fighting ability? How often do you end up in a street-fight situation? Unless you're immature or a low-life, probalby few to none. Fighting ability is cool the odd once in a lifetime where you might have to defend yourself, but big muscles look cool 24/7, wherever you go 8) Besides, if you're really concerned about being in situations where you need to fight, why not just carry a weapon? A twink with a gun would scare away any MMA fighter ;)
Oh wow!!! a big muscle guy, that needs a gun to defend himself.
Listen bro, man up or shut up.
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i wouldnt sugest carrying a gun either. unless you like jail
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just because Bob sapp lost a couple fights....I dont think he played in the NFL but even if he did....it doesnt mean that MMA is rougher than the NFL. The NFL is way rougher. No question. And WAY more popular. Thats why they get paid the big bucks
NFL players are tough......and big ....and fast...and have vertical leaps
I'm not talking about money.
And NFL players they are big and tough, you're right.
But they can not beat a professional MMA fighter.
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Oh wow!!! a big muscle guy, that needs a gun to defend himself.
Listen bro, man up or shut up.
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Learn to read correctly, nowhere did I say that big guys should carry guns to defend themselves. It was just advice to people who think that knowing how to fight is a huge asset and of great importance in life.
Hey, if you want to devote your life to learning how to fight even though you will hardly ever need to use those skills in real life, knock yourself out! (no pun intended) :)
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for once i think i agree with bigbobs
Actually this is the second time, the first time was when you agreed that Nasser El Sonbaty deserved to win the Olympia three times (at least) :)
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Actually this is the second time, the first time was when you agreed that Nasser El Sonbaty deserved to win the Olympia three times (at least) :)
nobody knows who that is. let it go man ;D
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Learn to read correctly, nowhere did I say that big guys should carry guns to defend themselves. It was just advice to people who think that knowing how to fight is a huge asset and of great importance in life.
Hey, if you want to devote your life to learning how to fight even though you will hardly ever need to use those skills in real life, knock yourself out! (no pun intended) :)
I'm not preaching violence, i don't fight in the streets, (well sometimes) lol.
But i do like martial arts, and Ive been practicing for one week ;). Not to be a tough guy,beating people up, or to prove myself that I'm the good or whatever. that's not what i believe.
But when you hear all the time people saying, I'm big, i can benched 1 ton, i have 30 inches arm. I'm a bad ass this and that.plus if that's not enough they come up with. " i have a gun"
Well, guess what? you're not. you can't fight, it doesn't matter how big your arms are and it doesn't matter how strong you are.
Right now, if we talk about violence, been tough and training nothing beats an MMA fighter.
Btw: what i said earlier was wrong, i didn't meant to be rude.please no hard feelings. otherwise...
I was rolling when i posted that. ;D
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Why are so many guys here so obsessed with fighting ability? How often do you end up in a street-fight situation? Unless you're immature or a low-life, probalby few to none. Fighting ability is cool the odd once in a lifetime where you might have to defend yourself, but big muscles look cool 24/7, wherever you go 8) Besides, if you're really concerned about being in situations where you need to fight, why not just carry a weapon? A twink with a gun would scare away any MMA fighter ;)
exactly
learning to fight isn't needed unless you compete or like being in jail, it's just another hobby
who do you think is more likely to get into a confrontation with some douche at the bar, the well built man or guys that look like kenny florian?
nobody knows the 150 lb fighter can fight, unless they have seen him on tv
when you're built everybody knows it and well built men get respect, when you're a skinny fighter nobody knows you can fight until some bigger douche at the bar tries to steal your girl
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That is ONE...yes count it....ONE fucking guy....a 300+ lb slow as hell guy with terrible conditioning.
I'm talking about HUNDREDS of strong, fast, well conditioned, elite athletes.
You can't tell me that out of the couple hundred or so linebackers who play NFL football there aren't a few who wouldn't be able to compete at a high level with a few years of MMA training.
What is there even to argue or roll your eyes at??
4 former NFL players on the upcoming season of TUF. I got my money on the guy with the fat belly, Big Country.
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I'm not talking about money.
And NFL players they are big and tough, you're right.
But they can not beat a professional MMA fighter.
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What a stupid thing to say.
This guy just said that an NFL football player could not beat a professional MMA fighter.
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4 former NFL players on the upcoming season of TUF. I got my money on the guy with the fat belly, Big Country.
So do I... my monies on Nelson.....what's you point?
Are those guys still in the NFL, btw??
That is still only 4 former players....Gracie used 1 former player as an example.....I was talking about HUNDREDS of NFL athletes....I promise you if every NFL player decided to pursue MMA as a career there would be a few that would knock Nelson on his fat ass.
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i wouldnt sugest carrying a gun either. unless you like jail
why?If your a law abiding citizen you can carry a concealed weapon in the state I live.
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I'm not preaching violence, i don't fight in the streets, (well sometimes) lol.
But i do like martial arts, and Ive been practicing for one week ;). Not to be a tough guy,beating people up, or to prove myself that I'm the good or whatever. that's not what i believe.
But when you hear all the time people saying, I'm big, i can benched 1 ton, i have 30 inches arm. I'm a bad ass this and that.plus if that's not enough they come up with. " i have a gun"
Well, guess what? you're not. you can't fight, it doesn't matter how big your arms are and it doesn't matter how strong you are.
Right now, if we talk about violence, been tough and training nothing beats an MMA fighter.
Btw: what i said earlier was wrong, i didn't meant to be rude.please no hard feelings. otherwise...
I was rolling when i posted that. ;D
No worries man :) My post was just directed at people with the attitude of, "what's the point of trying to build your physique if you don't know how to fight?" or "An MMA fighter can still beat up a pro bodybuilder."
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So do I... my monies on Nelson.....what's you point?
Are those guys still in the NFL, btw??
That is still only 4 former players....Gracie used 1 former player as an example.....I was talking about HUNDREDS of NFL athletes....I promise you if every NFL player decided to pursue MMA as a career there would be a few that would knock Nelson on his fat ass.
Pure athleticism with no skills, or one dimensional skills will only take you so far (see Hammer House fighters). Wrestlers do well because of their athleticism, and the ability to dictate where the fight takes place. But if you aren't adept at BJJ, you end up being like Randleman, or Manhoef, both athletic FREAKS who constantly get subbed.
The NFL has some of the worlds best athletes, but their ability to crossover would be limited if any. Espcially if they haven't cultivated the muscle memory for specific skillsets needed in the modern MMA game.
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I bet a lot of people care that steroids are sold to young guys in the gyms, the fact that you don't shows a lot.
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p.s bob sapp ruled. WTF happen to him ???
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p.s bob sapp ruled. WTF happen to him ???
He still out there getting his ass kicked regularly. Just lost to Bobby Lashley last month...