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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
Sounds about as likely as getting mugged at an ATM. Making those creative writing courses work for you, these days, eh?
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awesome title for a thread
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Sounds like that kid needed an ass whooping to respect his elders.
You should have faceplanted his punk ass right there on the spot.
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Sounds about as likely as getting mugged at an ATM. Making those creative writing courses work for you, these days, eh?
Yes
such an incredible story that it could never have possibly happened
just maybe not in certain folk's minds, anyway
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Sounds like that kid needed an ass whooping to respect his elders.
You should have faceplanted his punk ass right there on the spot.
I admit I was scared
I smelled the beer
and it was in a very shitty area where I am sure the value of life is nil
240, I would be with you on this one where I'd be more confident with a gun
the world would be no poorer without a few of these miscreants
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Sounds like that kid needed an ass whooping to respect his elders.
You should have faceplanted his punk ass right there on the spot.
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these punks only have balls when liquored up and with their 'crew'
believe me
they are the biggest pussies on the planet when alone
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awesome title for a thread
Thanks, Ivanhoe
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I admit I was scared
I smelled the beer
and it was in a very shitty area where I am sure the value of life is nil
240, I would be with you on this one where I'd be more confident with a gun
the world would be no poorer without a few of these miscreants
You know, probably if you had just punched one of them in the face, the rest would have backed down and ran away. They are so used to nobody doing anything, that they wouldn't know what to do. But, it isn't worth the risk that one of the little bitches has a gun/knife etc....
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You know, probably if you had just punched one of them in the face, the rest would have backed down and ran away. They are so used to nobody doing anything, that they wouldn't know what to do. But, it isn't worth the risk that one of the little bitches has a gun/knife etc....
exactly
they likely do not expect to live long
reminds me of 'Falling Down', where Mike Douglas tells the p ricns to fuck off about their 'shitty' patch of turf'
would liked to have shocked them by simply pulling an aluminum bat and quickly teeing off on all their melons
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were they black?
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were they black?
why, yes they were!
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exactly
they likely do not expect to live long
reminds me of 'Falling Down', where Mike Douglas tells the p ricns to fuck off about their 'shitty' patch of turf'
would liked to have shocked them by simply pulling an aluminum bat and quickly teeing off on all their melons
I think we need to loosen up the rules for the police. Can you imagine how much they would enjoy "having a chat" with those gents.....baton in hand. Film it and put it on PPV, generates revenue and good clean fun for everybody.
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I think we need to loosen up the rules for the police. Can you imagine how much they would enjoy "having a chat" with those gents.....baton in hand. Film it and put it on PPV, generates revenue and good clean fun for everybody.
agreed
this is a very liberal city
the regular folks have no rights
cops hands are tied
the animals do what they want with no fear of consequences
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agreed
this is a very liberal city
the regular folks have no rights
cops hands are tied
the animals do what they want with no fear of consequences
Sorry for that. Punks don't have any fear of justice anymore. They usually aren't even charged, but if so the system is a joke that they are in and out . If our jails and prisons were places that these scum feared instead of knowing it isn't a big deal, they would act differently. And I'm not talking about solitary, or some other shit....I'm talking about hard labor. I wonder what the rate of repeat offenders is in countries that do that? Much less than ours, I'm sure.
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Sorry for that. Punks don't have any fear of justice anymore. They usually aren't even charged, but if so the system is a joke that they are in and out . If our jails and prisons were places that these scum feared instead of knowing it isn't a big deal, they would act differently. And I'm not talking about solitary, or some other shit....I'm talking about hard labor. I wonder what the rate of repeat offenders is in countries that do that? Much less than ours, I'm sure.
yeah
can't even take a fucking walk without this shit coming up
put a work-camp/ prison in Alaska
you'd see a drop in this shit like a stone
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yeah
can't even take a fucking walk without this shit coming up
put a work-camp/ prison in Alaska
you'd see a drop in this shit like a stone
But the advocacy groups for criminals would pitch a hissy-fit. Funny how they don't give two shits about the person, or family
, of someone who is raped or murdered, but they will stand outside the prison and sing kumbaya for a piece of garbage before he gets his justice. Arrrrrgggg !!!!!
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But the advocacy groups for criminals would pitch a hissy-fit. Funny how they don't give two shits about the person, or family
, of someone who is raped or murdered, but they will stand outside the prison and sing kumbaya for a piece of garbage before he gets his justice. Arrrrrgggg !!!!!
I will never, ever understand that 'thinking'
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
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seriously, why don't you focus more on your training and also which Tupperware and cooler to carry around 24hours worth of food? clearly you are not living the life. If you were you would just drop your pants and a do a most muscular while wearing a sparkly thong. That would have upped your street cred and earned their respect.
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Lets say this hypothetical scenario did happen. If you noticed that they are liquored up, you don't speak, you make eye contact with all of them, nod your head, and keep it moving. Not, "gosh, how are doing, oh my, how's the weather, is that urine on the steps. You rapscallions should be ashamed of yourselves. I should take you by the ear..."
and then you get a negative response, you wet your pants, run home with your tail between your legs, and come post on Getbig to get your manhood back.
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seriously, why don't you focus more on your training and also which Tupperware and cooler to carry around 24hours worth of food? clearly you are not living the life. If you were you would just drop your pants and a do a most muscular while wearing a sparkly thong. That would have upped your street cred and earned their respect.
I don't lift anymore
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Lets say this hypothetical scenario did happen. If you noticed that they are liquored up, you don't speak, you make eye contact with all of them, nod your head, and keep it moving. Not, "gosh, how are doing, oh my, how's the weather, is that urine on the steps. You rapscallions should be ashamed of yourselves. I should take you by the ear..."
These 'hypothetical scenes' happen each and every day.
And if I can't say hello to someone, then your annointed one ain't doing a very good job.
and then you get a negative response, you wet your pants, run home with your tail between your legs, and come post on Getbig to get your manhood back.
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i was just having a bad day...........i'm sorry.
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are you saying that the black population is direct responsable for the regression of american neighbourhoods?
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are you saying that the black population is direct responsable for the regression of american neighbourhoods?
that would be the intimation
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you said you were at a university, so surely they wouldn't be black kids?
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you said you were at a university, so surely they wouldn't be black kids?
:D
its an ivy league school
areas are partitioned by strictly drawn lines
you'd be surprised
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there are smart black kids too
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Lax, nowadays females in the office think if dude says hi , he's weak, typically these the bitchy chicks. But if they say it first, shit is fine. You are also dealing with the feminization of the American male. The
more males who are raised by women, the more they take on their attributes--being manipulative, bitchy, moody, etc.
You also have to admit you pick the wrong time and place to say hi, eye contact to all parties and a head nod is sufficient.
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Sounds like you live in a wonderful area!
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there are smart black kids too
ronnie coleman, chris cormeir and wiggs are all i can think of.......
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then you wonder what they are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. enough military work to be done inside the country.
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Yes
such an incredible story that it could never have possibly happened
just maybe not in certain folk's minds, anyway
Oh, please, Moose. The only way you can find so much trouble is: a) you go looking for it b) make it up.
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they only feel powerful when in a group
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Lax, nowadays females in the office think if dude says hi , he's weak, typically these the bitchy chicks. But if they say it first, shit is fine. You are also dealing with the feminization of the American male. The
more males who are raised by women, the more they take on their attributes--being manipulative, bitchy, moody, etc.
You also have to admit you pick the wrong time and place to say hi, eye contact to all parties and a head nod is sufficient.
Ida know
I think any kind of acknowledgement of these kids on my behalf would potentially end badly
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
Maybe you should just STFU and mind your own biznass
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Maybe you should just STFU and mind your own biznass
maybe i should
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I try to avoid going into areas where crime is high and the likelihood of getting messed with is high.
But when I do, I usually opt for the fanny pack pack full of glock with that vigilant look on your face.
To the punk, you either look like a cop or worse, you look like an armed citizen. Kids know who to avoid. If you're dying for a chance to fck up one of their days, you won't be intimidated when they start shit. Your face will light up at the chance to smash one of their heads into the street for accosting you, and shelling their whole crew on the odd chance they try to help.
That's my advice. get the gun fanny that screams "i will end you" and do'nt make small talk with scum.
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I try to avoid going into areas where crime is high and the likelihood of getting messed with is high.
You know
I have been sick for a couple of years
have started up walking
I said fuck it to where I was going
But when I do, I usually opt for the fanny pack pack full of glock with that vigilant look on your face.
I really want to look into a gun
To the punk, you either look like a cop or worse, you look like an armed citizen. Kids know who to avoid. If you're dying for a chance to fck up one of their days, you won't be intimidated when they start shit. Your face will light up at the chance to smash one of their heads into the street for accosting you, and shelling their whole crew on the odd chance they try to help.
I'd liove that....truly would
maybe if I alk thru there a few more times, my fear would decrease
That's my advice. get the gun fanny that screams "i will end you" and do'nt make small talk with scum.
Gun fanny w/out the gun?
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I try to avoid going into areas where crime is high and the likelihood of
But when I do, I usually opt for the fanny pack pack full of glock with that vigilant look on your face.
To the punk, you either look like a cop or worse, you look like an armed citizen. Kids know who to avoid. If you're dying for a chance to fck up one of their days, you won't be intimidated when they start shit. Your face will light up at the chance to smash one of their heads into the street for accosting you, and shelling their whole crew on the odd chance they try to help.
That's my advice. get the gun fanny that screams "i will end you" and do'nt make small talk with scum.
Being a cool mofo is way easier, looking people dead in the eye and keep it moving. Many won't test you with what you say, but if they think you a cop, you ain't going to get any help like direction, or anything. The ones you should be wary of are not the punks and loudmouths, it's the quiet ones. I've had rapists and murders in front of me, and they are quietest people, you won't hear a peep. Usually the ones who are disorderlies are the biggest loudmouths.
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did you guys ever punch a colored fella? they have very soft tissue, don't let the "cutes" fool you.
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Being a cool mofo is way easier, looking people dead in the eye and keep it moving. Many won't test you with what you say, but if they think you a cop, you ain't going to get any help like direction, or anything. The ones you should be wary of are not the punks and loudmouths, it's the quiet ones. I've had rapists and murders in front of me, and they are quietest people, you won't hear a peep. Usually the ones who are disorderlies are the biggest loudmouths.
Let me translate this for lax--STFU and mind your own business...
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Lax, nowadays females in the office think if dude says hi , he's weak, typically these the bitchy chicks. But if they say it first, shit is fine. You are also dealing with the feminization of the American male. The
more males who are raised by women, the more they take on their attributes--being manipulative, bitchy, moody, etc.
You also have to admit you pick the wrong time and place to say hi, eye contact to all parties and a head nod is sufficient.
There you go Lax...great instructions from Parker. He should probably teach a course.."How to interact with Ignorant Savages 101". Apparently Lax, you did not heed the correct protocol.
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were they black?
Of course, That was implied.
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Being a cool mofo is way easier, looking people dead in the eye and keep it moving. Many won't test you with what you say, but if they think you a cop, you ain't going to get any help like direction, or anything. The ones you should be wary of are not the punks and loudmouths, it's the quiet ones. I've had rapists and murders in front of me, and they are quietest people, you won't hear a peep. Usually the ones who are disorderlies are the biggest loudmouths.
youre right. i dont mean to come across as a prick to people. I'm really polite, and youre right that most real criminals keep their heads down, better to find opportunity. I was referring to the loud group of douches that lax was referring to. If one of them talked shit, I'd probably whip him a middle finger and invite him to blow me with a grin.
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lax:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2061092_get-permit-carry-concealed-weapon.html
You'll never use it - but it'll give you the confidence to just walk away from shit knowing you are on equal ground.
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There you go Lax...great instructions from Parker. He should probably teach a course.."How to interact with Ignorant Savages 101". Apparently Lax, you did not heed the correct protocol.
sadly, my decorum was askew
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youre right. i dont mean to come across as a prick to people. I'm really polite, and youre right that most real criminals keep their heads down, better to find opportunity. I was referring to the loud group of douches that lax was referring to. If one of them talked shit, I'd probably whip him a middle finger and invite him to blow me with a grin.
I'd like to have
but if you were there
you'd agree
it'd be fertile ground for death of the white man
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lax:
http://www.ehow.com/how_2061092_get-permit-carry-concealed-weapon.html
You'll never use it - but it'll give you the confidence to just walk away from shit knowing you are on equal ground.
thanks, 240
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Must have been walking off campus around USC. Hoover, MLK, Figueroa, etc. Never walk south, whatever you do.
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Must have been walking off campus around USC. Hoover, MLK, Figueroa, etc. Never walk south, whatever you do.
Wasn't it Chris Rock who said if you find yourself on MLK, you are in trouble?
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Maybe they would have responded more appropriately to "what the fuck are you lookin' at?"
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Must have been walking off campus around USC. Hoover, MLK, Figueroa, etc. Never walk south, whatever you do.
No
Yale University
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Maybe they would have responded more appropriately to "what the fuck are you lookin' at?"
believe me
I hope to eventually work up to that
but
I still wanna live ....currently
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There you go Lax...great instructions from Parker. He should probably teach a course.."How to interact with Ignorant Savages 101". Apparently Lax, you did not heed the correct protocol.
There are ignorant folk around the world, and some people only respond to force or curse words, that's how they are. Saying "Hi" to bunch of ignorant drunk hoodlums invites them to be who they are...idiots. Unless you are a teacher or someone they respect ( the 30 yr old woman going to work)---"Hi, Ms. Johnson..."
Bottom line, it's respect, to command it, not demand it, and punks know who to test and who not to, from the jump, or should I say from "hi".
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ronnie coleman, chris cormeir and wiggs are all i can think of.......
YOu left out Sambo124 and Benny Blackie ;D
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There are ignorant folk around the world, and some people only respond to force or curse words, that's how they are. Saying "Hi" to bunch of ignorant drunk hoodlums invites them to be who they are...idiots. Unless you are a teacher or someone they respect ( the 30 yr old woman going to work)---"Hi, Ms. Johnson..."
Bottom line, it's respect, to command it, not demand it, and punks know who to test and who not to, from the jump, or should I say from "hi".
well
frankly
we always hear of brothers asking, 'you dissin' me?'....they want respect
but never, ever give it
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There are ignorant folk around the world, and some people only respond to force or curse words, that's how they are. Saying "Hi" to bunch of ignorant drunk hoodlums invites them to be who they are...idiots. Unless you are a teacher or someone they respect ( the 30 yr old woman going to work)---"Hi, Ms. Johnson..."
Bottom line, it's respect, to command it, not demand it, and punks know who to test and who not to, from the jump, or should I say from "hi".
or:
okay
I simply will not say anything to blacks anymore
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Sorry for that. Punks don't have any fear of justice anymore. They usually aren't even charged, but if so the system is a joke that they are in and out . If our jails and prisons were places that these scum feared instead of knowing it isn't a big deal, they would act differently. And I'm not talking about solitary, or some other shit....I'm talking about hard labor. I wonder what the rate of repeat offenders is in countries that do that? Much less than ours, I'm sure.
QFT. the fear factor is definitely gone. You might have to suck a dick or two but most of them go for it these days anyway, prison or not.
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or:
okay
I simply will not say anything to blacks anymore
Its just knowing who to speak to and when, you could surplant those hoodlums with drunk college kids... Remember it was a young white lab tech that killed 90 pound Asian chick, and he wasn't drunk, he was a control freak.
By your age you should be to figure out the vibe of people. Just keep it moving, brush it off
BTW, Alex a lot of cases are dropped because the victim is uncooperative, or in the case of Domestic Violence, blames themselves and wants the case drop. Many times the witnesses are killed or threatened, the state gives them NO protection.
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You know, probably if you had just punched one of them in the face, the rest would have backed down and ran away.
If you go this route, the wise move is to pick the biggest one and knock him out.
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If you go this route, the wise move is to pick the biggest one and knock him out.
I have a friend who when we all went out would always talk about this. But I figure, punch the smallest guy so at least I come out looking like I held my own! haha
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I have a friend who when we all went out would always talk about this. But I figure, punch the smallest guy so at least I come out looking like I held my own! haha
But if you knock out the biggest one the rest will know they are doomed :D
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But if you knock out the biggest one the rest will know they are doomed :D
That was my buddy's theory. But, what if he just shakes off the punch and mauls you? I say, punch the midget! ;D
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That was my buddy's theory. But, what if he just shakes off the punch and mauls you? I say, punch the midget! ;D
Makes sense!
You could also mutter under your breath w/a crazy look on your face...this has worked for me.
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Makes sense!
You could also mutter under your breath w/a crazy look on your face...this has worked for me.
Developing a really bad facial nervous tick while your eyes roll around has been known to work too.
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Next time pull a Charles Bronson on them like in "Death Wish." 8)
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why, yes they were!
There is the root of the problem... They didn't get their asses whipped from a father figure when growing up....
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LOL, one thing I've learner as I get older... it's much more fun to verbally abuse them and talk mindgames than beat the shit of them... when you start owning them verbally and their buddies start laughing at them... kids these days are so stupid...
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LOL, one thing I've learner as I get older... it's much more fun to verbally abuse them and talk mindgames than beat the shit of them... when you start owning them verbally and their buddies start laughing at them... kids these days are so stupid...
I have to agree with you... Today's youth are stupid...
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I was walking through downtown last week and a black man was sitting against a building
he said "hello" to me and i nodded and said "hey"
he then said "thank you sir you are a good man for saying hi"
made me feel sad :-\
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Groups of people makes me take a different rout. This spares me lots of potential trouble :)
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In some areas of this country you can carry a gun right there on your hip as long as it is visible and is not loaded. People either think you are a plain clothes cop or detective. Remember, that the gun cannot be concealed and it can't be loaded ! You can carry your ammo on you as well, as long as it is not in the gun. Most people do not know about this. People ask if you are a cop and if you say no they will call one on you. All the cops can do is a search on you to make sure the gun is not loaded. Then you can go on your way. It may feel weird to carry a gun in the open like that. Trust me though, no one will fuck with you !
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Although the story is 100% bullshit I know that one things is true.......you can't train all the monkeys.
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It was not their fault that they acted aggressively.
All young men get a little twitchy when approached by moose jay. It's a natural survival instinct.
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This " Open carrying law " Is legal in all of California !
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I admit I was scared
I smelled the beer
and it was in a very shitty area where I am sure the value of life is nil
240, I would be with you on this one where I'd be more confident with a gun
the world would be no poorer without a few of these miscreants
In America don't they think if everyone carried a gun then there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres?! Like if everyone shot everyone then no-one would shoot anyone? Good logic.
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The term " Open Carrying " refers to one who is in posession of a holstered,
( unloaded ) firearm on his or her person, displayed in plain view. This is legal in all of California. Most do not know about it, But you can carry a gun and the amo right next to it as long as it is not in the gun.
There are some distinctions in this law such as, You can't carry in a incorporated area, and a police officer can do a 12031(e) unloaded check..
Where they will ask to see your weapon. You of course comply, they will check it and as long as it is not loaded you can go on your way.
LAX : Do you think those little fuckers would have said anything to you if you had a 357 on you hip ?
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The term " Open Carrying " refers to one who is in posession of a holstered,
( unloaded ) firearm on his or her person, displayed in plain view. This is legal in all of California. Most do not know about it, But you can carry a gun and the amo right next to it as long as it is not in the gun.
There are some distinctions in this law such as, You can't carry in a incorporated area, and a police officer can do a 12031(e) unloaded check..
Where they will ask to see your weapon. You of course comply, they will check it and as long as it is not loaded you can go on your way.
LAX : Do you think those little fuckers would have said anything to you if you had a 357 on you hip ?
They'd probably get their own guns out. This is the hilarity. Anyway lets say you murder a cocky youth because he threatens you, then what? You've murdered some kid.
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In America don't they think if everyone carried a gun then there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres?! Like if everyone shot everyone then no-one would shoot anyone? Good logic.
Wow missed the point of this one huh? NO In America we don't think there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres , what we do believe that if there were armed students there would be a lot less victims because someone could stop the murderer before he starts accumulating victims
I mean your post is just retarded one so many levels and you have the balls to questions someone's logic?
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Immortal : Where did I say that you would shoot any of them ??? ::) I'm saying that they would most likely think you are a cop and not do anything !
Think before you speak. Dumb f**K !
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And if you were carrying your gun in a holster " NOT CONSEALED " in that type of neighborhood you would look like a cop for sure ! I don't think a bunch of kids would open fire on someone they think to be a cop.
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The term " Open Carrying " refers to one who is in posession of a holstered,
( unloaded ) firearm on his or her person, displayed in plain view. This is legal in all of California. Most do not know about it, But you can carry a gun and the amo right next to it as long as it is not in the gun.
There are some distinctions in this law such as, You can't carry in a incorporated area, and a police officer can do a 12031(e) unloaded check..
Where they will ask to see your weapon. You of course comply, they will check it and as long as it is not loaded you can go on your way.
LAX : Do you think those little fuckers would have said anything to you if you had a 357 on you hip ?
Unloaded = useless....unless you are going to pistol whip them.
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If " You just don't get it " I can't help you idiots.
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there are smart black kids too
MattT is definately not one.
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Wow missed the point of this one huh? NO In America we don't think there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres , what we do believe that if there were armed students there would be a lot less victims because someone could stop the murderer before he starts accumulating victims
I mean your post is just retarded one so many levels and you have the balls to questions someone's logic?
QF(MOTHERFUKING)T. Well spoken brother.
Fucken Eurotrash... soon you'll need permit to "own" a broomstick over there...
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Wow missed the point of this one huh? NO In America we don't think there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres , what we do believe that if there were armed students there would be a lot less victims because someone could stop the murderer before he starts accumulating victims
I mean your post is just retarded one so many levels and you have the balls to questions someone's logic?
Actually, there wouls be a lot more vics. imagine just like that lunatic armed, dudes who have grudges armed, crazy females armed...recipe for destruction. Our youth today are waaaay less responsible than you were as a youth. You'd hear about a professor being shot about every week, a crazy female who shot her room mate for having loud sex...
I agree with you in theory, but in reality it would not work
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QF(MOTHERFUKING)T. Well spoken brother.
Fucken Eurotrash... soon you'll need permit to "own" a broomstick over there...
England and Australia have ban on guns and guess what a stabbing epidemic
you can't ever stop these things from happening but maybe you can stop these guys before they kills dozens
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England and Australia have ban on guns and guess what a stabbing epidemic
you can't ever stop these things from happening but maybe you can stop these guys before they kills dozens
AZ has one of the lowest gun related crime record and guess what... I see old dudes sporting a nice piece all the time...
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I admit I was scared
I smelled the beer
and it was in a very shitty area where I am sure the value of life is nil
240, I would be with you on this one where I'd be more confident with a gun
the world would be no poorer without a few of these miscreants
lol, yeah they have nothing to loss so best to just leave, cause they probably have a gun as well.
jt
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Actually, there wouls be a lot more vics. imagine just like that lunatic armed, dudes who have grudges armed, crazy females armed...recipe for destruction. Our youth today are waaaay less responsible than you were as a youth. You'd hear about a professor being shot about every week, a crazy female who shot her room mate for having loud sex...
I agree with you in theory, but in reality it would not work
I don't mean just hand out firearms to everyone but make it legal for concealed carry on campus for those who want to , trained skilled people who could help in a time of crisis .
they shouldn't deny students a right to protect themselves
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I don't mean just hand out firearms to everyone but make it legal for concealed carry on campus for those who want to , trained skilled people who could help in a time of crisis .
I know what you are saying, but there are ways around it. the kid whose father is a Police Officer (they are some of the worst and get away with anything), rich kids, where there is a loophole, someone will find it, where there is a rule, there is a "exception".
BTW, true story, a officer had gotten his son a V8 mustang, and calls the Clekrs officer to wonder why his son was given a ticket :-\. now imagine if this was a son who got a concealed carry on campus, got drunk, saw his ex-girl talking to the star QB on, let's say USC campus,... "Pop-Pop" .
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I know what you are saying, but there are ways around it. the kid whose father is a Police Officer (they are some of the worst and get away with anything), rich kids, where there is a loophole, someone will find it, where there is a rule, there is a "exception".
BTW, true story, a officer had gotten his son a V8 mustang, and calls the Clekrs officer to wonder why his son was given a ticket :-\. now imagine if this was a son who got a concealed carry on campus, got drunk, saw his ex-girl talking to the star QB on, let's say USC campus,... "Pop-Pop" .
If they kill someone unjustly they're fucked regardless of how wealthy they are and if the intentions is to kill it can be done without a gun like the Yale student . I get your point about just handing a gun out to anyone but my point is just let the people who want to do it
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In some areas of this country you can carry a gun right there on your hip as long as it is visible and is not loaded. People either think you are a plain clothes cop or detective. Remember, that the gun cannot be concealed and it can't be loaded ! You can carry your ammo on you as well, as long as it is not in the gun. Most people do not know about this. People ask if you are a cop and if you say no they will call one on you. All the cops can do is a search on you to make sure the gun is not loaded. Then you can go on your way. It may feel weird to carry a gun in the open like that. Trust me though, no one will fuck with you !
LMAO whats the point of carrying a gun if it cant be loaded?
'hold on a sec i gotta stuff all these bullets into the mag before i can defend myself' may as well just carry a sword.
the best idea really though, is to simply avoid walking through these areas altogether.
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If they kill someone unjustly they're fucked regardless of how wealthy they are and if the intentions is to kill it can be done without a gun like the Yale student . I get your point about just handing a gun out to anyone but my point is just let the people who want to do it
And I agree with you, but that kid in VA shot people who he had a grudge against...people he wished he could be, women he wished he could have. In reality, nobody knew dude was gonna kirk out, and the ones you think will, never do.
Think that maybe their should be more campus police, or a student volunteer brigade, that comprises of students who can carry. And each dorm has at least two, or one person on each floor that is a member of that brigade.
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And I agree with you, but that kid in VA shot people who he had a grudge against...people he wished he could be, women he wished he could have. In reality, nobody knew dude was gonna kirk out, and the ones you think will, never do.
Think that maybe their should be more campus police, or a student volunteer brigade, that comprises of students who can carry. And each dorm has at least two, or one person on each floor that is a member of that brigade.
Good points !
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Good points !
Thanks, said people in the Brigades could teach or recruit others, such as women to arm themselves. But, these people should be well rounded individuals. not from the fringe...because they could end up being just as dangerous. You see the problem with these ideas, is that we assume people are grounded, when in fact today's youth are some of the most fucked up in recent history....
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
You should have said, "Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while, who you shouldn't have f*cked with? That's me."
(http://www.6neweb.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/gran-torino-trailer-1-image-3-grand-format.jpg)
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Wasn't it Chris Rock who said if you find yourself on MLK, you are in trouble?
yeah! he had a joke that said MLK stood for peace, etc... but if you ever found yourself on MLK street... "RUN!!!!" lol
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
oh yes, the tanned democrats of society!
thats the problem with this country, them dems wanna support this scum and penalized those who work harder (more taxes). things are backwards in this country.
instead of 800 billion in Obama's spending, wouldn;t it be really nice to load up all these ass clowns who only take away from society (prinsoners, gang bangers, hoodlems, etc) and ship them all to Iran/Iraq/pakistan? I think crime would drop to almost 0. In the current system, these people want to get locked up...its cool, they see their friends in jail, and provides to their street credibility. However, nothing would be cool about gettin dropped off in Iraq!
also, the terrorists would give up in a matter of days, if Jerome and his crew showed up in their contries, all ready to live off their governments!
i really think thats an excellent idea, however, the liberals and all the hippy tree huggers have really made this country week.
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same shit happening in eurasia...autralia... Everywhere in occident... looks like ridiculing and erasing christianity and replacing it with MTV porn coca cola mac donald nike and Superbowl (wether it's in north american or in europe btw) wasnt that smart in the end... Look at the results, people are becoming animals again.
The shock between our spoiled monkeys and ultra disciplined muslims and chinese will be violent.
Actually the shock between whites and colored people is some kind of trauma by itself. Whites will have to survive facing animals with animalistic behavior who hate them, irony, after all they re the ones who wanted it so bad, now it's time to adapt to your own mess cause they aint going to go away.
Lax, you (and I) are paying for what other white people (democrats) want, and they the majority nowadays in occident, that's just the way it is.
The only ones who are far from all of this crap, and promoted it actively, are the elites, the richest, the most powerulfs, politicians, showbizz holywood usefull idiots, all these people who brainwash the people 24/7 trhu TV and cinema since decades.
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here is another way of thinking about it:
these kids are poor, their fathers took off even before they were born. their moms prolly are on crack and work at McDonald's. these kids have a life expectany of mid 20s. they will never do what we do, and travel to Europe, see the world and meet so many cool people, etc.
instead, their only sense of worth in this world is "owning" some steps where they live and their only enjoyment is for once, being powerful over "the white man" by trying to intimidate him for a few seconds of one day.
you made their miserable life enjoyable, just at least for a few seconds.
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I went for a walk in my university town/city yesterday
happened upon a group of youths gathered on a stair
I said 'how are you?'
one stood up and said:
'Don't you fcuking ask me how I am...I will knock you the fuck out...'
this shit will never, ever change
discuss
You should just set a bomb and get rid of them all guy, fuck it.....
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Wow missed the point of this one huh? NO In America we don't think there'd be no more Virginia Tech massacres , what we do believe that if there were armed students there would be a lot less victims because someone could stop the murderer before he starts accumulating victims
I mean your post is just retarded one so many levels and you have the balls to questions someone's logic?
Bwahaha, you really don't get it. It was an armed student who caused the massacre. If every hormonal/disillusioned student happened to have a gun with him when he's feeling sh!tty for 'self-defence' then it'd just multiply the potential massacres.
Here in England our students can't even get fire-arms in the first place, so we don't have massacres.
I think the whole American logic that it's everyone's right to bear firearms to defend themselves is what leads to the insane gun-related death figures that you guys have. We have a handful a year, you guys are in the thousands. I know gangs and stuff are a lot to do with it, but here our gang-members find it a lot harder to get hold of guns.
Over there I imagine you think that if EVERY gang-member had a gun it would prevent future gang-related murders because they could shoot certain gang members before they accumulate more victims ::)
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QF(MOTHERFUKING)T. Well spoken brother.
Fucken Eurotrash... soon you'll need permit to "own" a broomstick over there...
Your the stupid moron shooting each other to death and getting blown up by guys on the other side of the world. Think you need to realise some home truths cos there are countries where that doesn't happen.
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I was walking through downtown last week and a black man was sitting against a building
he said "hello" to me and i nodded and said "hey"
he then said "thank you sir you are a good man for saying hi"
made me feel sad :-\
E
lonliness kills
its an invisible bullet
you only live
as you have something to love
Sly Stallone
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Although the story is 100% bullshit I know that one things is true.......you can't train all the monkeys.
Yes
it is such a fabulous, incredibly hard to believe story
something like that could NEVER happen in your exciting life
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You should have said, "Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while, who you shouldn't have f*cked with? That's me."
(http://www.6neweb.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/gran-torino-trailer-1-image-3-grand-format.jpg)
Grand Torino
you know, the scenario was almost just like that
only there were a row of houses
and these kids were quite drunk
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oh yes, the tanned democrats of society!
thats the problem with this country, them dems wanna support this scum and penalized those who work harder (more taxes). things are backwards in this country.
instead of 800 billion in Obama's spending, wouldn;t it be really nice to load up all these ass clowns who only take away from society (prinsoners, gang bangers, hoodlems, etc) and ship them all to Iran/Iraq/pakistan? I think crime would drop to almost 0. In the current system, these people want to get locked up...its cool, they see their friends in jail, and provides to their street credibility. However, nothing would be cool about gettin dropped off in Iraq!
also, the terrorists would give up in a matter of days, if Jerome and his crew showed up in their contries, all ready to live off their governments!
i really think thats an excellent idea, however, the liberals and all the hippy tree huggers have really made this country week.
fuck
the only reasons libs support these scum is for the VOTES
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same shit happening in eurasia...autralia... Everywhere in occident... looks like ridiculing and erasing christianity and replacing it with MTV porn coca cola mac donald nike and Superbowl (wether it's in north american or in europe btw) wasnt that smart in the end... Look at the results, people are becoming animals again.
The shock between our spoiled monkeys and ultra disciplined muslims and chinese will be violent.
are you suggesting mayhaps they will all kill themselves off??!!
Actually the shock between whites and colored people is some kind of trauma by itself. Whites will have to survive facing animals with animalistic behavior who hate them, irony, after all they re the ones who wanted it so bad, now it's time to adapt to your own mess cause they aint going to go away.
Lax, you (and I) are paying for what other white people (democrats) want, and they the majority nowadays in occident, that's just the way it is.
The only ones who are far from all of this crap, and promoted it actively, are the elites, the richest, the most powerulfs, politicians, showbizz holywood usefull idiots, all these people who brainwash the people 24/7 trhu TV and cinema since decades.
excellent and exacting post
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here is another way of thinking about it:
these kids are poor, their fathers took off even before they were born. their moms prolly are on crack and work at McDonald's. these kids have a life expectany of mid 20s. they will never do what we do, and travel to Europe, see the world and meet so many cool people, etc.
instead, their only sense of worth in this world is "owning" some steps where they live and their only enjoyment is for once, being powerful over "the white man" by trying to intimidate him for a few seconds of one day.
you made their miserable life enjoyable, just at least for a few seconds.
always happy to help
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You should just set a bomb and get rid of them all guy, fuck it.....
whole neighborhood
great idea
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Your the stupid moron shooting each other to death and getting blown up by guys on the other side of the world. Think you need to realise some home truths cos there are countries where that doesn't happen.
Calling someone a "stupid moron" when you can't use use the proper "you're"............ha! ::)
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In a situation like Virginia Tech, if multiple people where in possession of a weapon, it would only complicate matters, resulting in the death of more innocents. In all the confusion, the “good guys” would all be shooting at each other because they aren’t trained for these types of situations and the cops wouldn’t have an easy time sorting out who the “bad guys were , and trust me, cops shoot first and ask questions later.
Imagine this, a regular guy sees someone shooting at another person, they don’t know if the person doing the shooting or the person being shot at are the attacker. Now the cops show up and what are they going to make of the situation? They are going to assume there are multiple assailants, a real cluster fuck ensues, and a lot of wannabe heroes are going to be dead.
I asked my brother who is a cop and couple of his friends about a similar scenario a while ago and they said much the same. These good citizens would only be making it tougher for the police to handle the situation.
People need to think reasonably about the situation and leave the Wild West fantasies for the movies
As for these kids, I wonder if there is much you can do about them. Prison is only going to make them better criminals and killing them isn’t really justice, its revenge. A nice public beating would be a good start.
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Chaos: I thought it had recently been decided spelling corrections were the last refuge of someone without a decent point to make? I notice there is no disagreement with my actual point.
Archer77: Well said. After Virginia Tech everyone in Europe was thinking "maybe now they'll realise all firearms do is get innocent people shot".
I nearly p!ssed my pants when i saw they want to give everyone a deadly weapon to just walk around with in an attempt to "prevent" more shootings.
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Chaos: I thought it had recently been decided spelling corrections were the last refuge of someone without a decent point to make? I notice there is no disagreement with my actual point.
Archer77: Well said. After Virginia Tech everyone in Europe was thinking "maybe now they'll realise all firearms do is get innocent people shot".
I nearly p!ssed my pants when i saw they want to give everyone a deadly weapon to just walk around with in an attempt to "prevent" more shootings.
I love my mom
but
she opined that all Yale students should given guns in light of the recent muder there
yeesh
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Yes
it is such a fabulous, incredibly hard to believe story
something like that could NEVER happen in your exciting life
No, no....the story was bullshit.
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Bwahaha, you really don't get it. It was an armed student who caused the massacre. If every hormonal/disillusioned student happened to have a gun with him when he's feeling sh!tty for 'self-defence' then it'd just multiply the potential massacres.
Here in England our students can't even get fire-arms in the first place, so we don't have massacres.
I think the whole American logic that it's everyone's right to bear firearms to defend themselves is what leads to the insane gun-related death figures that you guys have. We have a handful a year, you guys are in the thousands. I know gangs and stuff are a lot to do with it, but here our gang-members find it a lot harder to get hold of guns.
Over there I imagine you think that if EVERY gang-member had a gun it would prevent future gang-related murders because they could shoot certain gang members before they accumulate more victims ::)
Bwahaha, you really don't get it. It was an armed student who caused the massacre. If every hormonal/disillusioned student happened to have a gun with him when he's feeling sh!tty for 'self-defence' then it'd just multiply the potential massacres.
I really don't get it? you're the one who made a generalization about what American's think which wasn't even close to being accurate or well thought out. And to follow up you miss the mark yet again with more blanket statements. Let me correct you here as well
NO ONE ever claimed all students should carry just the ones that wish should be able to protect themselves , and obviously you don't know what it takes to get a concealed carry permit in this country but they don't just hand them out to anyone who applies .
And any hormonal/disillusioned student bent on hurting another isn't going to stop because they don't have a gun and obviously you don't want any mentally ill people carrying firearms
Here in England our students can't even get fire-arms in the first place, so we don't have massacres.
No but they're is rash of stabbings in the UK , prohibition isn't the answer guns aren't the problem they're nothing more than tools to be subject to misuse it's the persons intent is the problem
I think the whole American logic that it's everyone's right to bear firearms to defend themselves is what leads to the insane gun-related death figures that you guys have. We have a handful a year, you guys are in the thousands. I know gangs and stuff are a lot to do with it, but here our gang-members find it a lot harder to get hold of guns.
Yes we should abolish all firearms that's the problem ::) yes take away the guns from law abiding citizens who have avoided trouble all their lives this way the only ones who have guns are the criminals more splendid logic from you .
Over there I imagine you think that if EVERY gang-member had a gun it would prevent future gang-related murders because they could shoot certain gang members before they accumulate more victims ::)
Ah more of your brilliant logic hahahahaha where do you come up with this silly nonsense? NO some of us in America believe if you have a legal right to carry a firearm you should be able to do so even on campus to protect yourself , which some Americans make it illegal for others to do so . They keep passing laws that hurt the legal gun owners instead of already enforcing the ones that are already on the books.
People who's intent is to do harm to others are swayed by signs that say " Gun-free school zone " these people aren't going to load up the guns and stop because they see this sign and think " Gee looks like I can't murder everyone because it says gun-free zone ' it's senseless laws like these that make it illegal for people to protect themselves
let me wrap this up for ignorant people such as yourself
We don't think everyone should carry firearms , we don't think it would solve everything if they did , we do think that law abiding Americans should be able to carry their firearm on campus to protect themselves and maybe others if they so desire
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Chaos: I thought it had recently been decided spelling corrections were the last refuge of someone without a decent point to make? I notice there is no disagreement with my actual point.
Archer77: Well said. After Virginia Tech everyone in Europe was thinking "maybe now they'll realise all firearms do is get innocent people shot".
I nearly p!ssed my pants when i saw they want to give everyone a deadly weapon to just walk around with in an attempt to "prevent" more shootings.
Chaos: I thought it had recently been decided spelling corrections were the last refuge of someone without a decent point to make? I notice there is no disagreement with my actual point.
Your point? you made an ignorant claim that's not a point.
Archer77: Well said. After Virginia Tech everyone in Europe was thinking "maybe now they'll realise all firearms do is get innocent people shot".
wrong , firearms protect people , save peoples lives , competition shooting , target shooting , hunting , they can be used like any tool for good or for evil , the gun itself is NOT the problem , they are inanimate objects it's the intent of the person wielding the tool that's the problem
I nearly p!ssed my pants when i saw they want to give everyone a deadly weapon to just walk around with in an attempt to "prevent" more shootings.
Fuck me you're not that bright , show me where ' they ' said we want to give everyone a deadly weapon to prevent more shootings , you can't do it because you're lying , the whole premise is if law abiding students want to carry on campus they should be allowed and in a Virginia Tech situation an armed student could have stopped the threat and potentially saved a bunch of innocent people
You can't stop people who are bent on destruction but you can try an minimize the damage they do , in a perfect world we wouldn't need guns and everyone would get along , NOT the world we live in . And people who want to be able to protect themselves should be able to
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wrong , firearms protect people , save peoples lives , competition shooting , target shooting , hunting , they can be used like any tool for good or for evil , the gun itself is NOT the problem , they are inanimate objects it's the intent of the person wielding the tool that's the problem
I agree with you and I never argued against gun ownership. I own several weapon and have extensive weapons training from my time in the military. You have completely missed my point.
I don't want a bunch of gun toting suburban commandos putting my life in further danger in an already dangerous situation. These idiots would end up shooting at each other while putting innocent lives in danger in the process. All of their "assistance" only makes the job of police officers harder when they go into a confusing situation like. The police don't know whose who and they aren't going to waste time asking questions, they are going to start shooting. People shouldn't romanticize about how the world would be safer if everybody carried a gun like it is the wild west.
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wrong , firearms protect people , save peoples lives , competition shooting , target shooting , hunting , they can be used like any tool for good or for evil , the gun itself is NOT the problem , they are inanimate objects it's the intent of the person wielding the tool that's the problem
I agree with you and I never argued against gun ownership. I own several weapon and have extensive weapons training from my time in the military. You have completely missed my point.
I don't want a bunch of gun toting suburban commandos putting my life in further danger in an already dangerous situation. These idiots would end up shooting at each other while putting innocent lives in danger in the process. All of their "assistance" only makes the job of police officers harder when they go into a confusing situation like. The police don't know whose who and they aren't going to waste time asking questions, they are going to start shooting. People shouldn't romanticize about how the world would be safer if everybody carried a gun like it is the wild west.
I agree with you and I never argued against gun ownership. I own several weapon and have extensive weapons training from my time in the military. You have completely missed my point.
I didn't miss your point because I wasn't even responding to you .
I don't want a bunch of gun toting suburban commandos putting my life in further danger in an already dangerous situation. These idiots would end up shooting at each other while putting innocent lives in danger in the process. All of their "assistance" only makes the job of police officers harder when they go into a confusing situation like. The police don't know whose who and they aren't going to waste time asking questions, they are going to start shooting. People shouldn't romanticize about how the world would be safer if everybody carried a gun like it is the wild west.
You're the one who is now missing the point . NO ONE is claiming People shouldn't romanticize about how the world would be safer if everybody carried a gun like it is the wild west. no one
This is the point , law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves even on campus and they could have possibly saves lives , the police in Virginia Police couldn't gain access to the rooms because the killer chained the doors shut , it took them 5 minutes to gain entry ......an armed student could have stop the killer saved lives
I get your point about confusion with the police , what happens when a cop shows up and someone's holding a gun? they are immediately ordered to drop the gun , cops can't just open fire on someone holding a gun unless they instruct the person to drop it and they don't comply or they're firing back
A student who just ended a massacre would drop the gun be cuffed and held until it's all sorted out , NO wild west needed , so Hollywood movie scene with a Mexican standoff
To say it's wrong for people to have the option to defend themselves even on campus is wrong , the have campus police , regular police and in times like these moments count and who are you to dictate if someone can at the very least protect themselves and possibly others.
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I didn't miss your point because I wasn't even responding to you .
You're the one who is now missing the point . NO ONE is claiming People shouldn't romanticize about how the world would be safer if everybody carried a gun like it is the wild west. no one
This is the point , law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves even on campus and they could have possibly saves lives , the police in Virginia Police couldn't gain access to the rooms because the killer chained the doors shut , it took them 5 minutes to gain entry ......an armed student could have stop the killer saved lives
I get your point about confusion with the police , what happens when a cop shows up and someone's holding a gun? they are immediately ordered to drop the gun , cops can't just open fire on someone holding a gun unless they instruct the person to drop it and they don't comply or they're firing back
A student who just ended a massacre would drop the gun be cuffed and held until it's all sorted out , NO wild west needed , so Hollywood movie scene with a Mexican standoff
To say it's wrong for people to have the option to defend themselves even on campus is wrong , the have campus police , regular police and in times like these moments count and who are you to dictate if someone can at the very least protect themselves and possibly others.
Cops do open fire. If they see someone shooting at another person and in the confusion they don't respond immediately,which is highly likely in the course of gun battle, that suburban commando is dead.
here is a nice article about an police officer opening fire on a citizen who had a gun for his protection.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/09/23/Family_Says_911_Tape_Caught_Cops_Planning_Cover-Up_After_Shooting.htm?=protectandserve
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I really don't get it? you're the one who made a generalization about what American's think which wasn't even close to being accurate or well thought out. And to follow up you miss the mark yet again with more blanket statements. Let me correct you here as well
NO ONE ever claimed all students should carry just the ones that wish should be able to protect themselves , and obviously you don't know what it takes to get a concealed carry permit in this country but they don't just hand them out to anyone who applies .
And any hormonal/disillusioned student bent on hurting another isn't going to stop because they don't have a gun and obviously you don't want any mentally ill people carrying firearms
No but they're is rash of stabbings in the UK , prohibition isn't the answer guns aren't the problem they're nothing more than tools to be subject to misuse it's the persons intent is the problem
Yes we should abolish all firearms that's the problem ::) yes take away the guns from law abiding citizens who have avoided trouble all their lives this way the only ones who have guns are the criminals more splendid logic from you .
Ah more of your brilliant logic hahahahaha where do you come up with this silly nonsense? NO some of us in America believe if you have a legal right to carry a firearm you should be able to do so even on campus to protect yourself , which some Americans make it illegal for others to do so . They keep passing laws that hurt the legal gun owners instead of already enforcing the ones that are already on the books.
People who's intent is to do harm to others are swayed by signs that say " Gun-free school zone " these people aren't going to load up the guns and stop because they see this sign and think " Gee looks like I can't murder everyone because it says gun-free zone ' it's senseless laws like these that make it illegal for people to protect themselves
let me wrap this up for ignorant people such as yourself
We don't think everyone should carry firearms , we don't think it would solve everything if they did , we do think that law abiding Americans should be able to carry their firearm on campus to protect themselves and maybe others if they so desire
Nobody realised Seung-hui Cho was nuts until it was too late. Until that day he was one of your 'law abiding Americans'.
We do have a social problem at the moment in England with stabbings. They are trying to enforce laws against carrying blades over 6cm, that's about 2.5 inches to you guys. Would you argue that we should be providing extra knives for the good guys to carry around? We actually have massive campaigns to disuade anyone from taking a knife out, even for self-defence, as a lot of the time people just get stabbed with their own knives.
Call me ignorant if it makes you feel better but guns were the topic, and the stats speak for themselves. There's around 35 times the ratio of gun-crimes to people in US compared to in England/Wales. Yet you are convinced your laws are better than our laws? Who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?
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Found this, thought it was interesting:
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13557#
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exactly
they likely do not expect to live long
reminds me of 'Falling Down', where Mike Douglas tells the p ricns to fuck off about their 'shitty' patch of turf'
would liked to have shocked them by simply pulling an aluminum bat and quickly teeing off on all their melons
hahahaha...u got chumped off...
i would beat the piss out of your ass if you even thought about lifting a hand at me chump....
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Nobody realised Seung-hui Cho was nuts until it was too late. Until that day he was one of your 'law abiding Americans'.
We do have a social problem at the moment in England with stabbings. They are trying to enforce laws against carrying blades over 6cm, that's about 2.5 inches to you guys. Would you argue that we should be providing extra knives for the good guys to carry around? We actually have massive campaigns to disuade anyone from taking a knife out, even for self-defence, as a lot of the time people just get stabbed with their own knives.
Call me ignorant if it makes you feel better but guns were the topic, and the stats speak for themselves. There's around 35 times the ratio of gun-crimes to people in US compared to in England/Wales. Yet you are convinced your laws are better than our laws? Who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?
Nobody realised Seung-hui Cho was nuts until it was too late. Until that day he was one of your 'law abiding Americans'.
BULLSHIT ! he had a long history of problems throughout his life and one professor suggested he seek professional help , he started exhibiting odd behavior his junior year
We do have a social problem at the moment in England with stabbings. They are trying to enforce laws against carrying blades over 6cm, that's about 2.5 inches to you guys. Would you argue that we should be providing extra knives for the good guys to carry around? We actually have massive campaigns to disuade anyone from taking a knife out, even for self-defence, as a lot of the time people just get stabbed with their own knives.
You're not telling me anything I don't know , no guns = more stabbings my point is it's the the object it's the intent
Call me ignorant if it makes you feel better but guns were the topic, and the stats speak for themselves. There's around 35 times the ratio of gun-crimes to people in US compared to in England/Wales. Yet you are convinced your laws are better than our laws? Who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?
I'm not calling you ignorant because he makes me feel better , I'm calling you ignorant because you're speaking on a subject you have done little research on and because you're making blanket statements , don't try and shift it back to me. Who cares about the relation to the UK? NOT the topic at hand , the topic is law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves on campus and no one should deny them that right
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just remember...
Guns don;t kill people....
minorities do!
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just remember...
Guns don;t kill people....
minorities do!
hahahahahaha family guy ;D
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The right to defend with a gun is the same right that puts guns in the hands of the killers. Until you realise this basic concept you'll continue to kill each other with guns more than any other country by far.
I posted the link but here's the article anyway.
by Letter to the editor
Wednesday, April 15, 2009; 9:49 PM
My name is Elilta Habtu, and I'm an injured survivor.
I was sitting in German class when I was shot in my wrist and in my jaw. The second bullet will forever remain 1 mm away from my brainstem. These past two years I've advocated for more responsible gun laws in our country.
I'm devastated that two years after the worst school shooting to occur ever in American history, where 32 of our fellow Hokies were brutally murdered, our gun laws in Virginia have not changed.
The simplest action our legislators can do that could prevent gun violence and save lives is to close the gun show loophole here in Virginia and across our nation as well. There are only 10 states in our country that currently have closed the gun show loophole.
Our gun shows are the easiest one-stop shop to buy guns where anyone, including federal convicts, the mentally ill, gang members and even people on the U.S. terror list, can easily purchase weapons, even semiautomatics like AK-47s.
Although the shooter didn't obtain his guns from a gun show, the mentally ill - like the shooter - can currently do so at a gun show. All a criminal has to do is purchase from a private seller - an unlicensed seller who legally is not required to perform a background check on the buyer.
Unlike a situation where a friend sells a gun to a friend, gun shows have hundreds, even thousands, of people attending and selling guns to complete strangers.
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Found this, thought it was interesting:
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13557#
Letter: Two years after the Virginia Tech massacre, gun laws have not changed
Not entirely true in the aftermath of the shooting H.R. 2640 was passed
The bill, H.R. 2640, mandates improvements in state reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) in order to halt gun purchases by criminals, those declared mentally ill, and other people prohibited from possessing firearms and authorizes up to $1.3 billion in federal grants for such improvements
And she wants to close the ' Gun show loop-hole ' which is a private transaction between LAWFUL gun owners , we are limited to just 4 personal transactions per year anything after that has to be done via a FFL dealer , she wants to take this away and ironically the man who shot her purchased his guns legally , this solves nothing her claim that
Our gun shows are the easiest one-stop shop to buy guns where anyone, including federal convicts, the mentally ill, gang members and even people on the U.S. terror list, can easily purchase weapons, even semiautomatics like AK-47s.
Although the shooter didn't obtain his guns from a gun show, the mentally ill - like the shooter - can currently do so at a gun show. All a criminal has to do is purchase from a private seller - an unlicensed seller who legally is not required to perform a background check on the buyer.
Unlike a situation where a friend sells a gun to a friend, gun shows have hundreds, even thousands, of people attending and selling guns to complete strangers.
NO ONE who doesn't have a legal right to purchase firearms can't and there are already laws on the books to prosecute those who do , you don't need any new laws just enforce the ones we already have , and at ANY gun show there are scores of police officers and undercover members of the BATF trying to buy guns illegally to arrest the people who will
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Cops do open fire. If they see someone shooting at another person and in the confusion they don't respond immediately,which is highly likely in the course of gun battle, that suburban commando is dead.
here is a nice article about an police officer opening fire on a citizen who had a gun for his protection.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/09/23/Family_Says_911_Tape_Caught_Cops_Planning_Cover-Up_After_Shooting.htm?=protectandserve
WOW one example , the exception NOT the rule. you proved nothing .
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The right to defend with a gun is the same right that puts guns in the hands of the killers. Until you realise this basic concept you'll continue to kill each other with guns more than any other country by far.
How on earth did you make that conclusion? how? you really need to learn the difference between LAW ABIDING and NOT LAW ABIDING
the right to bear arms has absolutely nothing to do with killers , so one guy mentally ill decides to run over a bunch of kids with his car and we should all now not have cars? this is your warped logic?
a gun is a tool , guns are useless without someone wield them , you're angry at the intent and want to take it out on the object makes no sense what so ever
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WOW one example , the exception NOT the rule. you proved nothing .
I'm not sure you have actually provided any proof to the contrary there ND. You say Archer77 proved nothing, yet all you have is an hyperbolic, angry sentence. At least he had an article.
I think it's pretty easy to see how I drew my conclusion about the right to bear arms leading to guns getting used for the wrong reasons. Seung-Hui Cho had psychological problems, but still got hold of a gun easily enough didn't he?
Your idea of good guys walking around policing the evil guys with responsible fire-arm use is an awesome vision. Unfortunately in reality a "responsible" guy who buys a gun with a permit is not infallible. Anyone can get pissed off, or enter a heated situation where, no matter how noble their intent, somebody innocent winds up getting shot.
I really would have thought an apparent man of science like your self would just look at the stats and try and derive some kind of truth from the situation. It's only you and your fellow countymen who are paying the price for pulling the wool over your own eyes. It's not me you need to convince, you're up against years of evidence showing America's gun culture leads to extremely high figures of gun-related deaths and injuries.
You make some inetersting points but currently I have to side with the Virginia-tech victim who harbours no feelings of revenge as such, just wants to see ligislation passed to make it MUCH harder for guns to be obtained by potential nut-jobs, who clearly go undiagnosed until it's too late. How many guys are there at any one time in America or any country who are capable of committing an heinous crime but have not done so yet? And why make it so easy for them to get hold of firearms?! Doesn;t happen in other countries, which IS relevant because no other country has anywhere near the number of gun-related-deaths-to-people ratio. I know the US is a young country founded on freedom and certain important rights and individualism, but surely it's time to move towards a more truly civilised nation.
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hahahaha...u got chumped off...
i would beat the piss out of your ass if you even thought about lifting a hand at me chump....
you are very tuff
but you do smell awful
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can easily purchase weapons, even semiautomatics like AK-47s.
Um, most guns are semi-automatics. The only non-semi guns are revolvers. The Glocks and Sigs and Hks and every gun you seen on hips of cops is a SEMI automatic. This just means it chambers the next round.
This is a sign the author is trying to scare people - they throw in that vague word for effect.
It's akin to a fearmonger anti-supplment voice saying "Supplements containing high amounts of this macronutrient protein..."
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Um, most guns are semi-automatics. The only non-semi guns are revolvers. The Glocks and Sigs and Hks and every gun you seen on hips of cops is a SEMI automatic. This just means it chambers the next round.
This is a sign the author is trying to scare people - they throw in that vague word for effect.
It's akin to a fearmonger anti-supplment voice saying "Supplements containing high amounts of this macronutrient protein..."
I never used to, but I now agree with 240 on gun ownership
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I never used to, but I now agree with 240 on gun ownership
I can't stand those guys who buy a gun and walk around trying to bully people, trying to prove themselves, hoping for a situation where they can use it. And those morons brining the rifles to presidential speeches and town hall meetings... WTF?
however, the vast majority of gun owners are smart, calm, and confident people. The gun is a tool they pray they'll never have to use. They carry the piece their whole life and most cashiers or waitresses or people on the street will never know.
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falcon punch techinique to the throat and elbow smash to the eye knee the ribs if you like snap a leg with strong stomp to the knee
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I can't stand those guys who buy a gun and walk around trying to bully people, trying to prove themselves, hoping for a situation where they can use it. And those morons brining the rifles to presidential speeches and town hall meetings... WTF?
however, the vast majority of gun owners are smart, calm, and confident people. The gun is a tool they pray they'll never have to use. They carry the piece their whole life and most cashiers or waitresses or people on the street will never know.
Someone post robert pics sporting his guns, cap, body armor thingy, and goatee/tattoos while staring at the camera with a "tough" face lol.
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I can't stand those guys who buy a gun and walk around trying to bully people, trying to prove themselves, hoping for a situation where they can use it. And those morons brining the rifles to presidential speeches and town hall meetings... WTF?
Agreed, absolutely
however, the vast majority of gun owners are smart, calm, and confident people. The gun is a tool they pray they'll never have to use. They carry the piece their whole life and most cashiers or waitresses or people on the street will never know.
this is what I am getting at
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Someone post robert pics sporting his guns, cap, body armor thingy, and goatee/tattoos while staring at the camera with a "tough" face lol.
well, I do know his pharmacist brother is not one to be fucked with concerning his phramacy and guns
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Um, most guns are semi-automatics. The only non-semi guns are revolvers. The Glocks and Sigs and Hks and every gun you seen on hips of cops is a SEMI automatic. This just means it chambers the next round.
This is a sign the author is trying to scare people - they throw in that vague word for effect.
It's akin to a fearmonger anti-supplment voice saying "Supplements containing high amounts of this macronutrient protein..."
Dude show a little respect, the "author" is a 'Tech school kid who took a bullet in the face. True many guns are semi-automatic, but not most of these semi-automatics are "like AK47s", i.e. rifles. So really you've chosen to infer that sentence a certain way. I take your point, but I don't think the language is particularly cheap or shocking considering what the guy has been through.
BTW I'm not remotely condoning street thuggery, and it would indeed be extremely satisfying to shoot them all in the face in a cool way like in a film or some such. But I think there are social and economical causes which lead to poor and pissed off kids loitering on streets like ass-holes, and that everyone carrying a piece is beyond stupid and ultimately missing the real goal of social reform - replacing it instead with some idea of ultra-responsible piece-toting folk walk around everywhere. The guy who sold the gun to Seung-Hui Cho thought he was one of the good guys. This is my point.