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Immediately after completing your resistance training workout you need to consume a mixture of protein and carbohydrates to 1) begin to repair the microtears to the muscle fascia induced by weight training and 2) replenish depleted stores of glycogen. For the natural bodybuilder I suggest no more than 30 grams of carbohydrates and 10 grams of protein. In the body's depleted and exhausted post workout state, any more macronutrients than that will simply be stored as fat since it cannot expend the calories to utilize the nutrients. Furthermore, any fat consumed post workout will be stored as bodyfat since all macronutrients will be used to replenish glycogen or repair microtears and fats can do neither.
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Immediately after completing your resistance training workout you need to consume a mixture of protein and carbohydrates to 1) begin to repair the microtears to the muscle fascia induced by weight training and 2) replenish depleted stores of glycogen. For the natural bodybuilder I suggest no more than 30 grams of carbohydrates and 10 grams of protein. In the body's depleted and exhausted post workout state, any more macronutrients than that will simply be stored as fat since it cannot expend the calories to utilize the nutrients. Furthermore, any fat consumed post workout will be stored as bodyfat since all macronutrients will be used to replenish glycogen or repair microtears and fats can do neither.
One, that's WAY TOO LITTLE protein (or carbs for that matter), natural or not-so-natural.
Two, the "immediately" thing is a bit overexaggerated. As long as you down a protein-carb combo/postworkout shake within an hour of finishing training, you're in business.
Usually, I get mine within 30 minutes of completing my workout. I've been doing that since the mid-90s.
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LMAO...sounds like someone has been reading their Flex magazine...christ there are suckers born every minute...so you are telling me that your gut can IMMEDIATELY breakdown and absorb the nutrients and then your body can utilize them all within this golden time window? LMAO...oh boy, that's a good one.
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shiit...just realized i got suckered by a gimmick...well played bluto,,,well played
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LMAO...sounds like someone has been reading their Flex magazine...christ there are suckers born every minute...so you are telling me that your gut can IMMEDIATELY breakdown and absorb the nutrients and then your body can utilize them all within this golden time window? LMAO...oh boy, that's a good one.
How is someone a "sucker", if such a routine is EFFECTIVE?
And, for the record, I read that from IronMan, many years ago, not FLEX.
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Immediately after completing your resistance training workout you need to consume a mixture of protein and carbohydrates to 1) begin to repair the microtears to the muscle fascia induced by weight training and 2) replenish depleted stores of glycogen. For the natural bodybuilder I suggest no more than 30 grams of carbohydrates and 10 grams of protein. In the body's depleted and exhausted post workout state, any more macronutrients than that will simply be stored as fat since it cannot expend the calories to utilize the nutrients. Furthermore, any fat consumed post workout will be stored as bodyfat since all macronutrients will be used to replenish glycogen or repair microtears and fats can do neither.
Awesome post! I didnt know any of the stuff you posted and I have been working out 13yrs. I usually have half a chocolate cake postworkout, wait 30min then I eat 5 peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches. Is that enough protein?
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Awesome post! I didnt know any of the stuff you posted and I have been working out 13yrs. I usually have half a chocolate cake postworkout, wait 30min then I eat 5 peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches. Is that enough protein?
Geezus dude...you wanna fuck your kidneys up?? Thats PLENTY of protein
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How is someone a "sucker", if such a routine is EFFECTIVE?
And, for the record, I read that from IronMan, many years ago, not FLEX.
soooo...during this magic time window, the laws of human biology are suspended? are you retarded "mcway"?
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soooo...during this magic time window, the laws of human biology are suspended? are you retarded "mcway"?
I can ask you the same question. The simple fact is I've been doing this since the mid-90s. And it has worked.
Whether that meshes with your psyche or your alleged knowledge of the "laws of human biology" makes no difference to me, one way or the other.
You'll excuse me if I'm not tempted to stop doing something that has worked for me for nearly 15 years, simply because a big-mouthed blowhard like you has issues with it.
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I can ask you the same question. The simple fact is I've been doing this since the mid-90s. And it has worked.
Whether that meshes with your psyche or your alleged knowledge of the "laws of human biology" makes no difference to me, one way or the other.
You'll excuse me if I'm not tempted to stop doing something that has worked for me for nearly 15 years, simply because a big-mouthed blowhard like you has issues with it.
Dear retard...How do you know it works? What if you didn't do it? Would you look the same? You don't know. The only thing you do know is that you did it and you look a certain way. You might look like complete doggshit...
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Dear retard...How do you know it works? What if you didn't do it? Would you look the same? You don't know. The only thing you do know is that you did it and you look a certain way. You might look like complete doggshit...
So, if he would look like dog shit....would that mean the window is not bullshit?
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protein ingestion post workout makes sense on the surface... but even whey protein, the fastest of all proteins to digest...still takes about an hour before any of it reaches the blood, and even then its not an "all at once" dumping of the aminos...but a slow gradually increasing process that spans several hours.
if protein intake is suffficient on a daily basis, then theres no need to "time" protein intake around workouts.
carbohydrate ingestion before, during, and after workouts does make sense... glucose can reach the blood within minutes and start taking action, mainly increased insulin and vasodialation
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Dear retard...How do you know it works? What if you didn't do it? Would you look the same? You don't know. The only thing you do know is that you did it and you look a certain way. You might look like complete doggshit...
Dear Crackpot,
I know it works, because I've been doing it for several years now. That would imply that, at one point, I didn't do such.
I've noted the difference: Faster recovery and better gains in size and strength overall.
Others have done such with similar results. But, I'll be sure to let them know that such was ineffective, because of your BRRRIIIIIIIILANT insight.
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Immediately after completing your resistance training workout you need to consume a mixture of protein and carbohydrates to 1) begin to repair the microtears to the muscle fascia induced by weight training and 2) replenish depleted stores of glycogen. For the natural bodybuilder I suggest no more than 30 grams of carbohydrates and 10 grams of protein. In the body's depleted and exhausted post workout state, any more macronutrients than that will simply be stored as fat since it cannot expend the calories to utilize the nutrients. Furthermore, any fat consumed post workout will be stored as bodyfat since all macronutrients will be used to replenish glycogen or repair microtears and fats can do neither.
here's a tip. Don't try and put this stuff across as gospel stuff son. Post workout nutrition as tbomz has stated is far simpler than you have made out here. Here's a point for you, fats do far more for the grand scheme of growth and I have had the most results following the science backed theory of GH release after intense muscular contractions by leaving an hour before I eat. High blood sugar nullifies the effect of GH and can blunt it's release entirely! So do as tbomz says, people should eat a diet with adaquate protein and stop overcomplicating meal timing.
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This is way too complicated for someone that actual leads a normal life (school, work, family, friends, etc).
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here's a tip. Don't try and put this stuff across as gospel stuff son. Post workout nutrition as tbomz has stated is far simpler than you have made out here. Here's a point for you, fats do far more for the grand scheme of growth and I have had the most results following the science backed theory of GH release after intense muscular contractions by leaving an hour before I eat. High blood sugar nullifies the effect of GH and can blunt it's release entirely! So do as tbomz says, people should eat a diet with adaquate protein and stop overcomplicating meal timing.
i think insulin is superior to GH. :-X lol. ;D
but yes, i do think that people overcomplicate the issue.
the best possible workout nutrition is simply carbohydrates throughout the entire physical bout.. and of course adequate protein throughout the day
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This is way too complicated for someone that actual leads a normal life (school, work, family, friends, etc).
Hardly!!!
How do you think amateur bodybuilders (who have jobs, wives, and kids) get it done?
If you work an 8-to-5 job, your diet can easily be tailored around it.
7 am Breakfast
10 am Shake #1 (Weight gainer, MRP, or straight-protein powder)
12 am Lunch
3 pm Shake #2
5 pm Workout
Postworkout Shake #3
8 pm Dinner
10/11 pm - Shake/Nighttime Meal
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i think insulin is superior to GH. :-X lol. ;D
but yes, i do think that people overcomplicate the issue.
the best possible workout nutrition is simply carbohydrates throughout the entire physical bout.. and of course adequate protein throughout the day
Yes tbomz, without insulin, GH is useless so yes! You can't have the benefit of one without the other! I do think however that GH release will cause a better ratio in lean to fat ratio, whereas the stimulus for a lot of insulin requires high blood sugar, which as you know very well is the true problem. Insulin gets the blame for a lot of issues, but it's actually the high blood sugar itself that does the damage, blunting this GH. I think in general a low GI diet, plenty of carbs, plenty of fats will do more for growth than throwing more aminos into the mix. You may or may not have read several studies that conclude that high protein can lower test levels in naturals. It's a double-edged sword as GH is increased with increased protein intake, so all in all it seems a diet with balance is far superior to high levels of protein, low carbs etc, low fat etc.
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here's a tip. Don't try and put this stuff across as gospel stuff son. Post workout nutrition as tbomz has stated is far simpler than you have made out here. Here's a point for you, fats do far more for the grand scheme of growth and I have had the most results following the science backed theory of GH release after intense muscular contractions by leaving an hour before I eat. High blood sugar nullifies the effect of GH and can blunt it's release entirely! So do as tbomz says, people should eat a diet with adaquate protein and stop overcomplicating meal timing.
Thats the point I was making before a certain Rhodes scholar started running his mouth.
I said that the immediately thing was a bit over-exaggerated. Within an hour after training usually does the trick. Hit the pool/Jacuzzi; have a shower; change; down a shake; go home (run some errands on the way); eat.
Not all that complicated!!
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Hardly!!!
How do you think amateur bodybuilders (who have jobs, wives, and kids) get it done?
If you work an 8-to-5 job, your diet can easily be tailored around it.
7 am Breakfast
10 am Shake 31 (Weight gainer, MRP, or straight-protein powder)
12 am Lunch
3 pm Shake #2
5 pm Workout
Post-workout Shake #3
8 pm Dinner
10/11 pm - Shake/Nighttime Meal
Great, this is assuming everyone has the same exact 9-5 job job, with the same exact breaks, etc. My days tend to be ALL over the place. I can be in a specific location one moment, then be driving an hour to another location. Your diet is ideal if you have a typical 9-5 desk job where you sit in the same spot all day.
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Great, this is assuming everyone has the same exact 9-5 job job, with the same exact breaks, etc. My days tend to be ALL over the place. I can be in a specific location one moment, then be driving an hour to another location. Your diet is ideal if you have a typical 9-5 desk job where you sit in the same spot all day.
You don't have a champion's mentality
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Great, this is assuming everyone has the same exact 9-5 job job, with the same exact breaks, etc. My days tend to be ALL over the place. I can be in a specific location one moment, then be driving an hour to another location. Your diet is ideal if you have a typical 9-5 desk job where you sit in the same spot all day.
That simply means that, either you prepare a lot of your meals in advance OR you carry a whole lot of MRPs/ portable jug of protein powder and a shaker (i.e. Ronnie Coleman, wolfing down chicken and potatoes in his squad car, as an active duty cop).
I tend to do the meals thing on the weekend, prepping enough meat and veggies to make at least three days worth of lunches. I also keep a bag of frozen chicken ready, so I can cook it quickly in the oven for dinner once Im home.
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You don't have a champion's mentality
That's because I don't want to be a champion bodybuilder ::) It's not very important to me whether or not I miss a meal. I take my champion mentality to another area of study. Just because I lack a champions mentality when it comes to bodybuilding, it doesn't mean I lack a champions mentality in every sense of the word, dingbat. ::) ::)
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Hardly!!!
How do you think amateur bodybuilders (who have jobs, wives, and kids) get it done?
If you work an 8-to-5 job, your diet can easily be tailored around it.
7 am Breakfast
10 am Shake 31 (Weight gainer, MRP, or straight-protein powder)
12 am Lunch
3 pm Shake #2
5 pm Workout
Post-workout Shake #3
8 pm Dinner
10/11 pm - Shake/Nighttime Meal
awful nutrition plan...too many shakes
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i think insulin is superior to GH. :-X lol. ;D
but yes, i do think that people overcomplicate the issue.
the best possible workout nutrition is simply carbohydrates throughout the entire physical bout.. and of course adequate protein throughout the day
i disagree - protein around the workout is more important that carbs - studies show this conclusively.
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that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.
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that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.
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:D
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protein ingestion post workout makes sense on the surface... but even whey protein, the fastest of all proteins to digest...still takes about an hour before any of it reaches the blood, and even then its not an "all at once" dumping of the aminos...but a slow gradually increasing process that spans several hours.
if protein intake is suffficient on a daily basis, then theres no need to "time" protein intake around workouts.
carbohydrate ingestion before, during, and after workouts does make sense... glucose can reach the blood within minutes and start taking action, mainly increased insulin and vasodialation
exactly !!!!!
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On juice I was as high as 257, same BF. Yes, I was a machine, and young 8)
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Geez, I hardly ever followed any of that stuff and I think I turned out alright. I do eat clean at times when it counts, but for the most part, I just enjoy life man. Don't know how you guys eat clean year round. That's boring!! Live life a little, you are going to die one day :D
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Geez, I hardly ever followed any of that stuff and I think I turned out alright. I do eat clean at times when it counts, but for the most part, I just enjoy life man. Don't know how you guys eat clean year round. That's boring!! Live life a little, you are going to die one day :D
I used to be like that, and although I looked better because of it, I learned that life's too short to be that strict too often. For instance, I'm eating some chips tonight, after eating most of my healthy meals today ;D
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I used to be like that, and although I looked better because of it, I learned that life's too short to be that strict too often. For instance, I'm eating some chips tonight, after eating most of my healthy meals today ;D
Exactly!! Don't get me wrong, I've done the dieting for shows and it sucks big time especially seeing all your friends drinking, partying, and eating junk. It's sooo tempting!!! Now I'm just enjoying food and the girlfriends cooking :D I'm lucky to have a fast metabolism and staying lean isn't too hard for me.
I'm going to have me some cookies and chocolate cake tonight!!! ;D
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that's pretty much what I do also. It's not very realistic in this day and age of eating 6-7 actual meals a day. 2-3 are shakes to cut down on time when you take working 9 hours a day into consideration. It worked for me and enabled me to hold a natural 235 pounds at 5'9 and lean (approx 10-12% BF) in my 20's.
So you were bigger naturally than Samir Bannout in his prime competing at the high 180s low 190s at 3-4 percent?
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just eat and lift, overcomplicating leads to failure
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So you were bigger naturally than Samir Bannout in his prime competing at the high 180s low 190s at 3-4 percent?
Samir is shorter than me and had better maturity and denser muscle. I've competed and competed very successfully and wasn't too far from Pro at one time. Contest weights were 195-201, but that was coming down from the low 240's. When I got to 257 I had stopped competing but did diet down to a shredded 215 one summer with thoughts of doing another show, but decided not to. These days I'm weighing 215-220 and was up to 230 last summer. I've done only one cycle in 2 years and that was just Anavar by itself. The reason for the lighter bodyweight is low test levels (which the doc has got me on mild juice recently to help this), not eating as well as I should be overall and not training balls-to-the-walls like I used to.
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exactly !!!!!
protein alone stimulates insulin more than enough to stimulate vasodilation and decrease protein breakdown ;)
carbs are not needed - fact.
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protein alone stimulates insulin more than enough to stimulate vasodilation and decrease protein breakdown ;)
carbs are not needed - fact.
Hot dogs are the fastest way to a pro physique 8)
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Wow.
This gimmick really struck a nerve with the GetBig board at large. A few posts, some shit thrown in and everyone is up in arms.
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Hot dogs are the fastest way to a pro physique 8)
so your girlfriend tells me.
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so your girlfriend tells me.
Bullshit, my GF is more than enough satisfied with my cocktail saussage 8)
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Bullshit, my GF is more than enough satisfied with my cocktail saussage 8)
mine too !
;D
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awful nutrition plan...too many shakes
Three solid meals and three liquid ones, with an optional meal at the end.
What's wrong with that, especially if you're in a working scenario as described?
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i disagree - protein around the workout is more important that carbs - studies show this conclusively.
were those studies looking at the effects of protein supplementation around the workout in individuals who were already eating sufficient protein? ;)
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mine too !
;D
Your girlfriend is satisfied with Stavios cocktail sausage, too?
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I drink 500ml of chocolate milk immiadiately after working out and it works very well to me.
PS I don't buy protein powders, they aren't needed if you eat well during the day
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I drink 500ml of chocolate milk immiadiately after working out and it works very well to me.
PS I don't buy protein powders, they aren't needed if you eat well during the day
That's basically all that protein powders are: Super-concentrated forms of chocolate (or vanilla, or strawberry, or whatever flavor you can get) milk.
As long as I can get them cheap (i.e. on clearance sales at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe), I'll keep using them.
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were those studies looking at the effects of protein supplementation around the workout in individuals who were already eating sufficient protein? ;)
yes ;) :D
http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200606_Cribb.pdf
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yes ;) :D
http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200606_Cribb.pdf
read it again... i fear your slipping.. ;D
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That's basically all that protein powders are: Super-concentrated forms of chocolate (or vanilla, or strawberry, or whatever flavor you can get) milk.
As long as I can get them cheap (i.e. on clearance sales at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe), I'll keep using them.
Go to price club/costco for good sales on protein. EAS, 3 pound bag is 30 bucks. You get 78 servings, and each one contains 30 grams of protein.
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read it again... i fear your slipping.. ;D
i think you are mistaken ;)
study 3 - trained subjects were instructed to maintain normal daily diet for duration of the study - then only take the supplement either pre/post workout or morn/eve depending on the group.
guess what - the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day :o :o :o
yes read that again :o :o :o
the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day :o :o :o
all while maintaining their normal daily diet. ;)
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Go to price club/costco for good sales on protein. EAS, 3 pound bag is 30 bucks. You get 78 servings, and each one contains 30 grams of protein.
BONG.
That's what i do
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BONG.
That's what i do
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I just discovered this last week. Also, 55 packets of oatmeal for $10.00 :o :o On top of that, its name brand (Quaker).
This says $11.00 but still damn cheap. Heck, 8 packets will cost you like $5.00 in the supermarket.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11211293&whse=bd_787&topnav=bdoff&browse=&lang=en-US
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BONG.
That's what i do
(http://www.thehomegrown.com/gallery/3/bong+and++bongs.jpg)
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i think you are mistaken ;)
study 3 - trained subjects were instructed to maintain normal daily diet for duration of the study - then only take the supplement either pre/post workout or morn/eve depending on the group.
guess what - the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day :o :o :o
yes read that again :o :o :o
the pre/post gained lots more strength and mass, and burned more bodyfat than the morn/eve despite calories being equal between the groups for the day :o :o :o
all while maintaining their normal daily diet. ;)
the study says abosultey nothing about the daily protein intake of all the participants, there was zero control over that.. the patients were allowed to eat whatever they normally ate..? panda its obviously a horrible study
if protein intake is sufficient on a daily basis, with a fairly even distribution of protein intake over at least 3 meals.. there is ZERO benefit to taking pre/during/post protien ...
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Go to price club/costco for good sales on protein. EAS, 3 pound bag is 30 bucks. You get 78 servings, and each one contains 30 grams of protein.
I've found protein powder even cheaper at GNC, via its clearance sales.
You might want to try Sam's Club, which sells the 5-lb bags of EAS Whey Protein for $27 and change.
Or Wal-Mart, which has its Body Fortress 2-lb jugs of whey protein for $12 each (current price).
But, that's assuming you aren't getting the hook-up with GNC's markdown (especially when combined with the Gold Card discount).
;D
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Hardly!!!
How do you think amateur bodybuilders (who have jobs, wives, and kids) get it done?
If you work an 8-to-5 job, your diet can easily be tailored around it.
7 am Breakfast
10 am Shake #1 (Weight gainer, MRP, or straight-protein powder)
12 am Lunch
3 pm Shake #2
5 pm Workout
Postworkout Shake #3
8 pm Dinner
10/11 pm - Shake/Nighttime Meal
what the fuck is that?
eat some solid food jackass.
i bet youre the type of guy who looks at his "supplement stash" and feels proud of it. ::)
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what the fuck is that?
EFFECTIVE!!!
eat some solid food jackass.
What parts of "Breakfast", "Lunch", "Dinner", and "Nighttime Meal" failed to register in that skull of yours?
And since that last nighttime meal/shake was optional, that means it's an even split: Three solid meals with three shakes.
i bet youre the type of guy who looks at his "supplement stash" and feels proud of it. ::)
I sure do, when I get them dirt cheap via clearance sales.
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That simply means that, either you prepare a lot of your meals in advance OR you carry a whole lot of MRPs/ portable jug of protein powder and a shaker (i.e. Ronnie Coleman, wolfing down chicken and potatoes in his squad car, as an active duty cop).
I tend to do the meals thing on the weekend, prepping enough meat and veggies to make at least three days worth of lunches. I also keep a bag of frozen chicken ready, so I can cook it quickly in the oven for dinner once Im home.
as an active duty cop blasting illegal drugs into his system! kind of ironic that a law enforcer is/was a law breaker himself..but i digress...you people are arguing over something the hugeandripped gimmick is saying?
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what the fuck is that?
eat some solid food jackass.
i bet youre the type of guy who looks at his "supplement stash" and feels proud of it. ::)
lmao...you nailed it Meso!
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lmao...you nailed it Meso!
What both you and he can't quite grasp is that this isn't an either/or issue.
I use protein powder as SUPPLEMENTS to my regular meals, as do many who train.
It's always the simple things that zip over the heads of some folks, here.
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the study says abosultey nothing about the daily protein intake of all the participants, there was zero control over that.. the patients were allowed to eat whatever they normally ate..? panda its obviously a horrible study
if protein intake is sufficient on a daily basis, with a fairly even distribution of protein intake over at least 3 meals.. there is ZERO benefit to taking pre/during/post protien ...
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calories were equal - as was protein intake for the day. 1 group got great results the others didn't despite calories being equal - how can there be zero benefit ???
they are also trained subjects, not newbies. i would assume they take in adequate protein daily already in their daily diet, however i do not gave the full paper yet so yes i cannot be 100% sure.
As far as i know this is the only study done to date that compares pre/post nutrition compared with the same shake taken at different times of the day - AND while maintaning daily diet.
Unless you have found a study i do not know that compares the same and shows no benefit how can you make the claim that there is zero benefit to pre/post wo nutrition ::)
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what the fuck is that?
eat some solid food jackass.
i bet youre the type of guy who looks at his "supplement stash" and feels proud of it. ::)
settle down... wow!
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I've found protein powder even cheaper at GNC, via its clearance sales.
You might want to try Sam's Club, which sells the 5-lb bags of EAS Whey Protein for $27 and change.
Or Wal-Mart, which has its Body Fortress 2-lb jugs of whey protein for $12 each (current price).
But, that's assuming you aren't getting the hook-up with GNC's markdown (especially when combined with the Gold Card discount).
;D
You actually put this junk of protein into your body??? Seriously?? Go get some Isopure or something!
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as an active duty cop blasting illegal drugs into his system! kind of ironic that a law enforcer is/was a law breaker himself..but i digress...you people are arguing over something the hugeandripped gimmick is saying?
You think cops on the juice is something rare? I know lots who are. Think about it - if you knew life or death might come down to being able to fight off some shitbag hyped up on PCP so you can draw your sidearm, wouldn't want an "edge?"
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You actually put this junk of protein into your body??? Seriously?? Go get some Isopure or something!
One, I'd hardly consider Body Fortress Protein as "junk".
Two, I do use Isopure (particularly the RTDs).......WHEN GNC marks them down for clearance.
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settle down... wow!
Some people just can't read. That's why they don't grasp "breakfast", "lunch', and "dinner".
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Gayer than arguing about post-workout nutrition.
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I might have to start doing this if I want to reach my goal.
you'Re already banging chicks right and left bro
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just eat and lift, overcomplicating leads to failure
you re a pure ectomorph as i am, of course we dont need to overcomplicate it. But for endos it's a completely different story. When we are designed to burn fat, they are designed genetically to stock it. You cant apply the same stuff to everyone.
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protein ingestion post workout makes sense on the surface... but even whey protein, the fastest of all proteins to digest...still takes about an hour before any of it reaches the blood, and even then its not an "all at once" dumping of the aminos...but a slow gradually increasing process that spans several hours.
if protein intake is suffficient on a daily basis, then theres no need to "time" protein intake around workouts.
carbohydrate ingestion before, during, and after workouts does make sense... glucose can reach the blood within minutes and start taking action, mainly increased insulin and vasodialation
vasodilatation retard.
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vasodilatation retard.
haha!
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you re a pure ectomorph as i am, of course we dont need to overcomplicate it. But for endos it's a completely different story. When we are designed to burn fat, they are designed genetically to stock it. You cant apply the same stuff to everyone.
Yes you can.
And I'm no ecto, far from it. Everybody looks ecto at low bodyfat.
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Yes you can.
And I'm no ecto, far from it. Everybody looks ecto at low bodyfat.
Most people aren't a pure bodytype, but a combination of the two. I'd say I'm an ecto-mesomorph.
But, I don't think bodytape plays that big of a role in the effectiveness of post-workout nutrition.
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Most people aren't a pure bodytype, but a combination of the two. I'd say I'm an ecto-mesomorph.
But, I don't think bodytape plays that big of a role in the effectiveness of post-workout nutrition.
I don't believe in body types at all. I would probably be more of an endo, I gain fat very easily and have a rather wide waist.
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I don't believe in body types at all. I would probably be more of an endo, I gain fat very easily and have a rather wide waist.
As I said, I'd call myself an ecto-mesomorph. With that said, since I'm in my mid-late 30s, I can't just wolf down calories, the way I once did years ago.
That's why I've drastically cut usage of the one supplement that was the staple of my regiment for YEARS: Weight-gainers.
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Most people aren't a pure bodytype somatotype, but a combination of the two. I'd say I'm an ecto-mesomorph.
But, I don't think bodytape somatotype plays that big of a role in the effectiveness of post-workout nutrition.
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I don't believe in body types somatotypes at all. I would probably be more of an endo, I gain fat very easily and have a rather wide waist.
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If I was trying to put on size, I would eat directly before.. and immediately after a workout.
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If I was trying to put on size, I would eat directly before.. and immediately after a workout.
then you would be a very smart man james.