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Title: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 02:42:15 PM
"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional, helping athletes achieve their fitness goals through his MPF Training Systems business. Upon further investigation into the crooks that "The Coach" employs at his training business as well as his own personal lack of credentials, one can conclude that he is a run of the mill scam artist looking to make a quick buck off the public.

MPF Training systems employs a chiropractor and massage therapist who parades himself as a doctor known as Tyler Houston. He graduated from the Utah College of Massage Therapy, a vocational school that has been charged with a formal complaint by the U.S. government (see March 2002, United States Department of Justice against Utah College of Massage Therapy). Would you trust a man who recieved his education from a criminal vocational program? Furthermore, this man worked in the Skin Deep Day Spa in Huntington Beach, CA which is now closed down. Prior to it closing down due to financial difficulties, one person complained online that the "only down side is that she dropped something on my face & i now have a small bruise below my eyebrow" on 9/9/2009. Does this sound like a place of professional business? Furthermore, Tyler Houston has worked with a man named Paul J Newton at the Fitness Chiropractic and Massage Therapy. Paul J Newton has three cancelled chiropractic licenses under his name in the state of california with two more valid ones, all in different counties. Do these sound like trustworthy men?

Furthermore, "The Coach" parades himself as a fitness professional yet he does not even have a college education.

I came about six months short of my degree

This man hides behind online personal trainer certifications to hide the fact that he could not graduate college thirty years ago. Given his self admitted lack of credentials and inability to graduate with a degree why does he claim that he has one on the profile he made on personaltrainer.com

He lists his education as "Cal Poly Pomona, Kinesiology, Exercise Science. Mike Boyle (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Boston University) Mentorship Program. USC Strength and Conditioning, Chris Carlisle" - but that cant be right since he already admitted to dropping out. Is he listing false credentials to scam customers?

"The Coach" goes on and on about how he trains athletes, but lets take a look at one of his most hyped up clients - Jay Silva who has lost both his fights unanimously since he began training with MPF. No wonder they have no "testimonials" on their web page.

- HR
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: NCNPC29 on April 10, 2010, 02:49:04 PM
"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional, helping athletes achieve their fitness goals through his MPF Training Systems business. Upon further investigation into the crooks that "The Coach" employs at his training business as well as his own personal lack of credentials, one can conclude that he is a run of the mill scam artist looking to make a quick buck off the public.

MPF Training systems employs a chiropractor and massage therapist who parades himself as a doctor known as Tyler Houston. He graduated from the Utah College of Massage Therapy, a vocational school that has been charged with a formal complaint by the U.S. government (see March 2002, United States Department of Justice against Utah College of Massage Therapy). Would you trust a man who recieved his education from a criminal vocational program? Furthermore, this man worked in the Skin Deep Day Spa in Huntington Beach, CA which is now closed down. Prior to it closing down due to financial difficulties, one person complained online that the "only down side is that she dropped something on my face & i now have a small bruise below my eyebrow" on 9/9/2009. Does this sound like a place of professional business? Furthermore, Tyler Houston has worked with a man named Paul J Newton at the Fitness Chiropractic and Massage Therapy. Paul J Newton has three cancelled chiropractic licenses under his name in the state of california with two more valid ones, all in different counties. Do these sound like trustworthy men?

Furthermore, "The Coach" parades himself as a fitness professional yet he does not even have a college education.

This man hides behind online personal trainer certifications to hide the fact that he could not graduate college thirty years ago. Given his self admitted lack of credentials and inability to graduate with a degree why does he claim that he has one on the profile he made on personaltrainer.com

He lists his education as "Cal Poly Pomona, Kinesiology, Exercise Science. Mike Boyle (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Boston University) Mentorship Program. USC Strength and Conditioning, Chris Carlisle" - but that cant be right since he already admitted to dropping out. Is he listing false credentials to scam customers?

"The Coach" goes on and on about how he trains athletes, but lets take a look at one of his most hyped up clients - Jay Silva who has lost both his fights unanimously since he began training with MPF. No wonder they have no "testimonials" on their web page.

- HR

LOLOLOL Wow. This has to go down in Getbig History as the fastest owning of a persons mind to date. Nice job Coach  ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 02:49:56 PM
 ::)

Chiropractors are quacks.  Story at 11.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 02:51:09 PM
"The Coach:" I left your wife out of this because I am a man with principles. If you continue to parade yourself, however, as a fitness industry pseudo guru I will have no choice but to expose the demons in her closet.

- HR
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: disco_stu on April 10, 2010, 02:52:51 PM
you surely are retarded?

you continue to be hooked on credentials and im wondering why this attack on the coach?

many of us know that stupid is as stupid does and frankly, the coach does stupid.

whilst i agree on the points you make, why do you feel that you are the one to make them? Are you trying to help us poor souls out?

ill say it again that your masters qualification is dubious to me. Prior to your masters you mustve qualified for a bachelors- what was it and where?...or is it one of those hollow masters that fly around these days.

really, a masters can be obtained in many areas with most of them not amounting to anything useful. If you were to say that your masters was in medicine, or engineering, or any of the more challenging courses then your cred may be better.

a post grad in some form of exercise discipline would rate higher IMO.

But we get back to it- why tell us and feel the need to "educate"?

for real cred, write a paper for publication, have it critiqued by experts, then get back to us.

maybe even post a link to your thesis.

Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on April 10, 2010, 02:58:39 PM
The Coach is a legend in the fitness industry and a few others. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 03:01:16 PM
"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional, helping athletes achieve their fitness goals through his MPF Training Systems business. Upon further investigation into the crooks that "The Coach" employs at his training business as well as his own personal lack of credentials, one can conclude that he is a run of the mill scam artist looking to make a quick buck off the public.

MPF Training systems employs a chiropractor and massage therapist who parades himself as a doctor known as Tyler Houston. He graduated from the Utah College of Massage Therapy, a vocational school that has been charged with a formal complaint by the U.S. government (see March 2002, United States Department of Justice against Utah College of Massage Therapy). Would you trust a man who recieved his education from a criminal vocational program? Furthermore, this man worked in the Skin Deep Day Spa in Huntington Beach, CA which is now closed down. Prior to it closing down due to financial difficulties, one person complained online that the "only down side is that she dropped something on my face & i now have a small bruise below my eyebrow" on 9/9/2009. Does this sound like a place of professional business? Furthermore, Tyler Houston has worked with a man named Paul J Newton at the Fitness Chiropractic and Massage Therapy. Paul J Newton has three cancelled chiropractic licenses under his name in the state of california with two more valid ones, all in different counties. Do these sound like trustworthy men?

Furthermore, "The Coach" parades himself as a fitness professional yet he does not even have a college education.

This man hides behind online personal trainer certifications to hide the fact that he could not graduate college thirty years ago. Given his self admitted lack of credentials and inability to graduate with a degree why does he claim that he has one on the profile he made on personaltrainer.com

He lists his education as "Cal Poly Pomona, Kinesiology, Exercise Science. Mike Boyle (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Boston University) Mentorship Program. USC Strength and Conditioning, Chris Carlisle" - but that cant be right since he already admitted to dropping out. Is he listing false credentials to scam customers?

"The Coach" goes on and on about how he trains athletes, but lets take a look at one of his most hyped up clients - Jay Silva who has lost both his fights unanimously since he began training with MPF. No wonder they have no "testimonials" on their web page.

- HR


Not to be defending Joe but the Utah School of Massage Therapy is still nationally accredited and any issues involving the school is completely unrelated its students and graduates.  You can't hold a graduate responsible for the school they went to.  

Same with the Spa...again he was just an employee...not the owner of the facility.  Unrelated


Unless you have something specific on Tyler Houston, its nothing to write about
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:05:47 PM
"The Coach" continues to scam the innocent consumer by teaming up with an underhanded supplement company and peddling products with exaggerated claims to earn a quick buck. The following 2 products are my personal favorites in terms of the wide array of snake oil sold through MPF:

Pro GF
Osmotic Anabolic Stimulant
There is no other product like Pro GF on the market. Through science and research, a radical new anabolic stimulant has been developed. Pro GF is designed for the elite athlete to assist in producing better quality workouts and to help sculpt a larger, leaner, and stronger physique through its unique glutamine preservation action. Buy Now!
Price: $44.99


In reality, this "radical new anabolic stimulant" is 45 dollars worth of underdosed glutamine, creatine, NAC, glycine, taurine and arginine.

ProSLAM! & ProSLAM! 45
Protein & Beta-Alanine Pre-Workout Supplement
Ready-to-Drink vial that deliciously delivers 27 / 45 grams of protein, zero / 2 carbohydrates and zero fat in less than 3 fluid ounces. This revolutionary pre-workout formulation contains beta-alanine, a powerful supplement that has been shown to delay the onset of muscle fatigue. This translates into being able to train with more intensity and recover faster, therefore allowing for greater lean muscle gains. Buy Now!
Price: $31.00 / $34.99


This is an extremely nonsensical scam product that is supposed to be used preworkout yet it contains 0-2 grams of carbohydrates, 27-45 grams of protein and a mild stimulant. Perhaps someone should tell "The Coach" that protein accounts for only 15 percent MAX energy utilization during a workout, maybe if he stayed in college he would have learned that.

Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: splank on April 10, 2010, 03:06:32 PM
Who gives a shit. A lot that is on this board is misrepresented, so what? It is for entertainment and fun, although there are some knowledgeable advice given...you just have to sort through a lot of shit to find it.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 10, 2010, 03:08:11 PM
I understand where you are coming from HR, but please understand that you don't need to be in possession of a Bachelors or Masters degree in anything fitness related to provide true results to clients in the realm of health and fitness.

Whether COACH has attained proper certification means nothing.  So as long as he can provide his clients with actual results, his reputation as a trainer will precede him and propel clients to seek out his help.

Jay Silva is a fighter.  COACH is a fitness trainer.  COACH probably knows very little about MMA fighting and certainly isn't a black belt in Jujitsu, Muy Thai or any other art. If Silva's fighting repertoire lacked enough dimensions to gain him a win, it has nothing to do with the "physical" training COACH provided.

Don't take COACH too seriously, this is a bodybuilding board.

"1"
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: body88 on April 10, 2010, 03:08:22 PM
"The Coach:" I left your wife out of this because I am a man with principles. If you continue to parade yourself, however, as a fitness industry pseudo guru I will have no choice but to expose the demons in her closet.

- HR

The truth comes out. This is all about your ego isn't it?

Why attack coach like this? If you're a man with principles and a "fitness guru", why not act like one and have some class?

Consumers can make their own choice, as to whether or not that want to utilize coach's services...why must you use a "negative sell" tactic against him? Bad business my friend, it will come back to bite you.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: SF1900 on April 10, 2010, 03:09:21 PM
"The Coach:" I left your wife out of this because I am a man with principles. If you continue to parade yourself, however, as a fitness industry pseudo guru I will have no choice but to expose the demons in her closet.

- HR

Even if he does continue to claim he's a fitness guru, his wife has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: splank on April 10, 2010, 03:09:24 PM
"The Coach" continues to scam the innocent consumer by teaming up with an underhanded supplement company and peddling products with exaggerated claims to earn a quick buck. The following 2 products are my personal favorites in terms of the wide array of snake oil sold through MPF:

Pro GF
Osmotic Anabolic Stimulant
There is no other product like Pro GF on the market. Through science and research, a radical new anabolic stimulant has been developed. Pro GF is designed for the elite athlete to assist in producing better quality workouts and to help sculpt a larger, leaner, and stronger physique through its unique glutamine preservation action. Buy Now!
Price: $44.99


In reality, this "radical new anabolic stimulant" is 45 dollars worth of underdosed glutamine, creatine, NAC, glycine, taurine and arginine.

ProSLAM! & ProSLAM! 45
Protein & Beta-Alanine Pre-Workout Supplement
Ready-to-Drink vial that deliciously delivers 27 / 45 grams of protein, zero / 2 carbohydrates and zero fat in less than 3 fluid ounces. This revolutionary pre-workout formulation contains beta-alanine, a powerful supplement that has been shown to delay the onset of muscle fatigue. This translates into being able to train with more intensity and recover faster, therefore allowing for greater lean muscle gains. Buy Now!
Price: $31.00 / $34.99


This is an extremely nonsensical scam product that is supposed to be used preworkout yet it contains 0-2 grams of carbohydrates, 27-45 grams of protein and a mild stimulant. Perhaps someone should tell "The Coach" that protein accounts for only 15 percent MAX energy utilization during a workout, maybe if he stayed in college he would have learned that.



 What supplement isn't over exaggerated with it's claims? :-\
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:10:07 PM

Not to be defending Joe but the Utah School of Massage Therapy is still nationally accredited and any issues involving the school is completely unrelated its students and graduates.  You can't hold a graduate responsible for the school they went to.  

Same with the Spa...again he was just an employee...not the owner of the facility.  Unrelated


Unless you have something specific on Tyler Houston, its nothing to write about

Why do you put "CSN MFT" after your name as if those represent some collegiate credentials? Upon investigation, I have found that both are non-collegiate entirely online courses. I have an M.S. in exercise science and a B.S. in Nutrition and Dietics, and I find it personally offensive that you are trying to represent yourself as an educated professional with online scam courses.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: SF1900 on April 10, 2010, 03:11:28 PM
HR, post pictures of your degrees! If not, please be quiet.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: newmom on April 10, 2010, 03:14:50 PM
Even if he does continue to claim he's a fitness guru, his wife has nothing to do with it.

x2
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:17:28 PM
I understand where you are coming from HR, but please understand that you don't need to be in possession of a Bachelors or Masters degree in anything fitness related to provide true results to clients in the realm of health and fitness.

Whether COACH has attained proper certification means nothing.  So as long as he can provide his clients with actual results, his reputation as a trainer will precede him and propel clients to seek out his help.

Jay Silva is a fighter.  COACH is a fitness trainer.  COACH probably knows very little about MMA fighting and certainly isn't a black belt in Jujitsu, Muy Thai or any other art. If Silva's fighting repertoire lacked enough dimensions to gain him a win, it has nothing to do with the "physical" training COACH provided.

Don't take COACH too seriously, this is a bodybuilding board.

"1"

He regularly discusses training top level athletes and advertises his training company by the use of Jay Silva's namesake. I am merely curious if Jay Silva is unaware that he is putting his athletic training in the hands of a man that does not have a degree (yet claims he does on self made personal trainer website profiles) and employs shady massage therapists. One cannot argue with results, and upon training with MPF, Jay Silva has lost both his fights unanimously - it does not take much of a stretch of the imagination to realize thats what happens when a real athlete puts his career into the hands of a man that has no academic credentials.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: SF1900 on April 10, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
HR, POST PICS OF YOUR DEGREE OR STFU!!!!
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
HR shut up please
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: body88 on April 10, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
He regularly discusses training top level athletes and advertises his training company by the use of Jay Silva's namesake. I am merely curious if Jay Silva is unaware that he is putting his athletic training in the hands of a man that does not have a degree (yet claims he does on self made personal trainer website profiles) and employs shady massage therapists. One cannot argue with results, and upon training with MPF, Jay Silva has lost both his fights unanimously - it does not take much of a stretch of the imagination to realize thats what happens when a real athlete puts his career into the hands of a man that has no academic credentials.

So what? Who are you? In any industry all kinds of people make all kinds of claims.

It sounds like you are a jealous and with all your degrees, you have not been able to do much more than train regular Joes on a day to day basis.

Negative selling anyone within your industry is a big no-no. Clearly, you're not business savvy.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:21:59 PM
"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional, helping athletes achieve their fitness goals through his MPF Training Systems business. Upon further investigation into the crooks that "The Coach" employs at his training business as well as his own personal lack of credentials, one can conclude that he is a run of the mill scam artist looking to make a quick buck off the public.

MPF Training systems employs a chiropractor and massage therapist who parades himself as a doctor known as Tyler Houston. He graduated from the Utah College of Massage Therapy, a vocational school that has been charged with a formal complaint by the U.S. government (see March 2002, United States Department of Justice against Utah College of Massage Therapy). Would you trust a man who recieved his education from a criminal vocational program? Furthermore, this man worked in the Skin Deep Day Spa in Huntington Beach, CA which is now closed down. Prior to it closing down due to financial difficulties, one person complained online that the "only down side is that she dropped something on my face & i now have a small bruise below my eyebrow" on 9/9/2009. Does this sound like a place of professional business? Furthermore, Tyler Houston has worked with a man named Paul J Newton at the Fitness Chiropractic and Massage Therapy. Paul J Newton has three cancelled chiropractic licenses under his name in the state of california with two more valid ones, all in different counties. Do these sound like trustworthy men?

Furthermore, "The Coach" parades himself as a fitness professional yet he does not even have a college education.

This man hides behind online personal trainer certifications to hide the fact that he could not graduate college thirty years ago. Given his self admitted lack of credentials and inability to graduate with a degree why does he claim that he has one on the profile he made on personaltrainer.com

He lists his education as "Cal Poly Pomona, Kinesiology, Exercise Science. Mike Boyle (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Boston University) Mentorship Program. USC Strength and Conditioning, Chris Carlisle" - but that cant be right since he already admitted to dropping out. Is he listing false credentials to scam customers?

"The Coach" goes on and on about how he trains athletes, but lets take a look at one of his most hyped up clients - Jay Silva who has lost both his fights unanimously since he began training with MPF. No wonder they have no "testimonials" on their web page.

- HR

Hhahahahaha, good to see you've looked at my website.

www.mpftrainingsystems.c om

www.joelocalpt.com


It's about time the owing of 'hugeripped' continues.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
Coach seems to be quite fitness goal-oriented for his clients and 'smrt' lifting-wise. However, he's a total troll, politically, tho.   :)
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:23:59 PM
"The Coach:" I left your wife out of this because I am a man with principles. If you continue to parade yourself, however, as a fitness industry pseudo guru I will have no choice but to expose the demons in her closet.

- HR

Hahaha...go ahead, she's all over the internet. search LORI CRUZ HAYDEN
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 10, 2010, 03:26:33 PM
Coach seems to be quite fitness goal-oriented for his clients and 'smrt' lifting-wise. However, he's a total troll, politically, tho.   :)

You can say that again.  I agree that he seems to be knowledgeable in the world of fitness.

BUT

In the realm of politics, he is the congenital retard always trying to put a word in..

"1"
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Montague on April 10, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
I can’t imagine you’d put someone else’s picture under your avatar & etch out their face, but…
Is this a picture of you, “HugeRipped?”

(http://i44.tinypic.com/v5zq53.jpg)
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 03:32:40 PM
In the realm of politics, he is the congenital retard always trying to put a word in..
He's been reduced to drive-bys. He cuts-n-pastes a Rush post and then flees the thread before he can be called on any of his nonsense. Kinda like nicky-nine-doors if you're a lad of a certain age.  ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:33:04 PM
"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional, helping athletes achieve their fitness goals through his MPF Training Systems business. Upon further investigation into the crooks that "The Coach" employs at his training business as well as his own personal lack of credentials, one can conclude that he is a run of the mill scam artist looking to make a quick buck off the public.

MPF Training systems employs a chiropractor and massage therapist who parades himself as a doctor known as Tyler Houston. He graduated from the Utah College of Massage Therapy, a vocational school that has been charged with a formal complaint by the U.S. government (see March 2002, United States Department of Justice against Utah College of Massage Therapy). Would you trust a man who recieved his education from a criminal vocational program? Furthermore, this man worked in the Skin Deep Day Spa in Huntington Beach, CA which is now closed down. Prior to it closing down due to financial difficulties, one person complained online that the "only down side is that she dropped something on my face & i now have a small bruise below my eyebrow" on 9/9/2009. Does this sound like a place of professional business? Furthermore, Tyler Houston has worked with a man named Paul J Newton at the Fitness Chiropractic and Massage Therapy. Paul J Newton has three cancelled chiropractic licenses under his name in the state of california with two more valid ones, all in different counties. Do these sound like trustworthy men?

Furthermore, "The Coach" parades himself as a fitness professional yet he does not even have a college education.

This man hides behind online personal trainer certifications to hide the fact that he could not graduate college thirty years ago. Given his self admitted lack of credentials and inability to graduate with a degree why does he claim that he has one on the profile he made on personaltrainer.com

He lists his education as "Cal Poly Pomona, Kinesiology, Exercise Science. Mike Boyle (Head Strength and Conditioning Coach, Boston University) Mentorship Program. USC Strength and Conditioning, Chris Carlisle" - but that cant be right since he already admitted to dropping out. Is he listing false credentials to scam customers?

"The Coach" goes on and on about how he trains athletes, but lets take a look at one of his most hyped up clients - Jay Silva who has lost both his fights unanimously since he began training with MPF. No wonder they have no "testimonials" on their web page.

- HR

Hey Mr. Masters degree holder. What does the canceling of this Paul guys license have to do with my Chrios license? You're a retard to say the least.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 03:35:24 PM
I wonder how much furious Googling was required to compile this information.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Montague on April 10, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
Hey Mr. Masters degree holder. What does the canceling of this Paul guys license have to do with my Chrios license? You're a retard to say the least.


Your chiro worked with Paul, hence…

Just like everyone who played on O.J.’s team was guilty of double murder.

Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:37:30 PM
He regularly discusses training top level athletes and advertises his training company by the use of Jay Silva's namesake. I am merely curious if Jay Silva is unaware that he is putting his athletic training in the hands of a man that does not have a degree (yet claims he does on self made personal trainer website profiles) and employs shady massage therapists. One cannot argue with results, and upon training with MPF, Jay Silva has lost both his fights unanimously - it does not take much of a stretch of the imagination to realize thats what happens when a real athlete puts his career into the hands of a man that has no academic credentials.







Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:39:49 PM
I can't responsibility for his loss to Leben and Dollaway (previously undefeated) but I will take responsibility for his S&C. I'm sorry "hugeripped" what have you done again? 
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:42:03 PM
I wonder how much furious Googling was required to compile this information.

He got my info from my site. Mr.Masters degree is going to furiously to search for dirt to dig up. Still wondering who's pathetic gimmick this is..hahaha!
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 03:44:40 PM
Why do you put "CSN MFT" after your name as if those represent some collegiate credentials? Upon investigation, I have found that both are non-collegiate entirely online courses. I have an M.S. in exercise science and a B.S. in Nutrition and Dietics, and I find it personally offensive that you are trying to represent yourself as an educated professional with online scam courses.


There's no such degree as Dietics you sorry sack of shit.  As far as my credentials are concerned, the certifications I received are taught at Georgia Perimeter College.  

I only spent 6 months obtaining my PT certifications which is fine with me because I certainly wouldn't waste 4-5 years studying exercise science to become a personal trainer.... ::)
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:46:05 PM

There's no such degree as Dietics you sorry sack of shit.  As far as my credentials are concerned, the certifications I received are taught at Georgia Perimeter College.  

I only spent 6 months obtaining my PT certifications which is fine with me because I certainly wouldn't waste 4-5 years studying exercise science to become a personal trainer.... ::)

Are you trying to tell me Nutrition and Dietics is not a degree? Please answer carefully.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 03:48:25 PM
Are you trying to tell me Nutrition and Dietics is not a degree? Please answer carefully.
Dietetics!?  ;)
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 03:49:16 PM
They call it "Dietics" at some schools, or "Dietary Science" or "Nutrition" or "Nutritional Science".  It's all the same shit.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:51:50 PM
"The Coach:" I am still curious as to why you represent yourself as possessing a degree that you do not have on your self made trainer profile. Are you attempting to inflate (or in this case, completely create) your credentials to trick new clientele into giving you money? Honesty is the key here.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:52:50 PM
Are you trying to tell me Nutrition and Dietics is not a degree? Please answer carefully.

HEY......my gimmick buddy is back. What do you know about training there big man?? i asked you a question about putting a program together for me for training a football player, let me be a little more specific, put one together for a running back. Again, I'll be waiting for you're reply. And as you would say....PLEASE ANSWER CAREFULLY.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:55:48 PM
HEY......my gimmick buddy is back. What do you know about training there big man?? i asked you a question about putting a program together for me for training a football player, let me be a little more specific, put one together for a running back. Again, I'll be waiting for you're reply. And as you would say....PLEASE ANSWER CAREFULLY.

Please answer the question I posted above. I feel no need to provide you with a training program for a sample demographic. I spent a total of 6 years at a university of higher learning earning the degrees that hang on the walls of my office. You, meanwhile, falsify your educational level and trick mixed martial artists into beleving that you have any knowledge of their craft. At what point in their program, do you take the money and run? Is it before or after they realize your credentials go as far as an online test?
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Post by: WillGrant on April 10, 2010, 03:55:48 PM
Joe is proven at what he does , HR and Goodrum are not HTH
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
"The Coach:" I am still curious as to why you represent yourself as possessing a degree that you do not have on your self made trainer profile. Are you attempting to inflate (or in this case, completely create) your credentials to trick new clientele into giving you money? Honesty is the key here.

See, now if you were an attorney I could easily put you in your place. No were did I say I possess a degree. i said I came up 6 months short. You my gimmicky friend are an imbecile.

Right here people is proof positive you don't have to be smart to possess a "Masters" degree.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Are you trying to tell me Nutrition and Dietics is not a degree? Please answer carefully.

Its Dietetics.  You would know how to spell it if you actually had a Master's Degree.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
See, now if you were an attorney I could easily put you in your place. No were did I say I possess a degree. i said I came up 6 months short. You my gimmicky friend are an imbecile.

Right here people is proof positive you don't have to be smart to possess a "Masters" degree.

Translation: you employ deceptive self-marketing techniques by listing the college you dropped out of as an educational credential.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
Its Dietetics.  You would know how to spell it if you actually had a Master's Degree.

I did not realize a typo on a bodybuilding message board was the foundation for the validity of an M.S. or not. Then again, your entire "education" took place on internet-only courses so I can see why you put so much importance in online text.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Please answer the question I posted above. I feel no need to provide you with a training program for a sample demographic. I spent a total of 6 years at a university of higher learning earning the degrees that hang on the walls of my office. You, meanwhile, falsify your educational level and trick mixed martial artists into beleving that you have any knowledge of their craft. At what point in their program, do you take the money and run? Is it before or after they realize your credentials go as far as an online test?

Because you can't. Ok then I'll simplify it for you. What is a type of exercise an athlete should perform in the weight training phase of a strength program. What is your answer and why?
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:02:22 PM
Because you can't. Ok then I'll simplify it for you. What type type of exercise an athlete should do in the weight training phase of a strength program. What is your answer and why?

I am beginning to believe that you are asking me these questions because you genuinely do not know the answer. I am basing this theory on the fact that you do not have a college degree and your insecurity over your lack of education leads you to lie about it on the internet.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:05:03 PM
I am beginning to believe that you are asking me these questions because you genuinely do not know the answer. I am basing this theory on the fact that you do not have a college degree and your insecurity over your lack of education leads you to lie about it on the internet.

Hahahahaha..oh fuck, and to think this was going to be another boring afternoon watching the Masters. If it wasn't for a board member that text me about this thread I would have been taking a nap..hahahahahahahaha!!
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Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
HugeRipped I have not just one but TWO masters degrees :o.  Am I twice as smart as you ???
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
I did not realize a typo on a bodybuilding message board was the foundation for the validity of an M.S. or not. Then again, your entire "education" took place on internet-only courses so I can see why you put so much importance in online text.

Your so called education obviously doesn't equate to a good physique or even good spelling.  My arm is bigger than your entire body so when you actually develop it from your adolescent state then feel free to compare notes.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:08:20 PM
Hahahahaha..oh fuck, and to think this was going to be another boring afternoon watching the Masters. If it wasn't for a board member that text me about this thread I would have been taking a nap..hahahahahahahaha!!

Do you believe it would be fair practice for someone to enroll in college with a major in accounting, drop out, and then put up flyers offering to do people's tax returns for 30 dollars and list his education as the college he dropped out of with the major he never completed?
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Post by: buffdnet on April 10, 2010, 04:08:54 PM
as the arguments weaken, it's only a small matter of time before the gimmick slips up.
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I did not realize a typo on a bodybuilding message board was the foundation for the validity of an M.S. or not.
yep right along with showing your tits. which in your case homo, we shall pass
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Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 04:09:06 PM
For all the shit Vince G. gets on here he has clearly put on some size.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:09:16 PM
HugeRipped I have not just one but TWO masters degrees :o.  Am I twice as smart as you ???

LOL
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
Hahahahaha..oh fuck, and to think this was going to be another boring afternoon watching the Masters. If it wasn't for a board member that text me about this thread I would have been taking a nap..hahahahahahahaha!!
C'mon, Coach. You know, as well as I do, AMC has Josey Wales on.   :)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:11:53 PM
Still waiting for an answer "hugeripped".
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:12:35 PM
C'mon, Coach. You know, as well as I do, AMC has Josey Wales on.   :)

Great movie!!
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
Still waiting for an answer "hugeripped".

I asked you a question, why do you choose to avoid it?
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Post by: outby43 on April 10, 2010, 04:13:08 PM
Huge Ripped, if you want all the dirt then PM baseballmom.   ;D
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:14:59 PM
Huge Ripped, if you want all the dirt then PM baseballmom.   ;D

Hahahaha..yes "hugeripped" PM Baseball mom. You guys would definitely find a lot of things in common..hahahahaha!
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Post by: buffdnet on April 10, 2010, 04:15:28 PM
For all the shit Vince G. gets on here he has clearly put on some size.
optometrist! see one! (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/laf.gif)
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Great movie!!
Indeed!  :)

'Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy.'
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:15:53 PM
And one more picture to write home about.  Notice that I don't have a black dot over my face
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Post by: buffdnet on April 10, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
I asked you a question, why do you choose to avoid it?
homosexuality is clear proof of a lack of education.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:16:59 PM
Your so called education obviously doesn't equate to a good physique or even good spelling.  My arm is bigger than your entire body so when you actually develop it from your adolescent state then feel free to compare notes.

"My so called education" involved 6 years at a university of higher learning. Your "so called education" involved half an hour at your computer monitor.

If you want to speak on physiques, I am at 9.7 percent bodyfat (bod pod tested as of 11 days ago) and I can bench press 315lbs for 2 clean reps. You appear to at 20-25 percent bodyfat, evident by the lack of tricep definition and obvious lipid storage in the upper arm region typical of males exceeding 18 percent bodyfat. Furthermore, I can see your stomach protruding despite your black shirt and the usage of overhead lighting. Given the large stomach, high level of lipid storage in the extremeties, wide hips and narrow shoulders I would suggest that you visit your endocrinologist and get a complete hormone panel. Your lipid storage is estrogenic in nature and your skeletal structure is similar to one that has suffered from primary hypogonadism as well as hyperaromatization.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:17:49 PM
For all the shit Vince G. gets on here he has clearly put on some size.

That's why I read the shit around here.  Makes me hit the weights even harder
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:20:16 PM
That's why I read the shit around here.  Makes me hit the weights even harder

Please address your evident hormonal deficiency that I illustrated in the above post.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:20:28 PM
"My so called education" involved 6 years at a university of higher learning. Your "so called education" involved half an hour at your computer monitor.

If you want to speak on physiques, I am at 9.7 percent bodyfat (bod pod tested as of 11 days ago) and I can bench press 315lbs for 2 clean reps. You appear to at 20-25 percent bodyfat, evident by the lack of tricep definition and obvious lipid storage in the upper arm region typical of males exceeding 18 percent bodyfat. Furthermore, I can see your stomach protruding despite your black shirt and the usage of overhead lighting. Given the large stomach, high level of lipid storage in the extremeties, wide hips and narrow shoulders I would suggest that you visit your endocrinologist and get a complete hormone panel. Your lipid storage is estrogenic in nature and your skeletal structure is similar to one that has suffered from primary hypogonadism as well as hyperaromatization.


 ???

(http://img.moronail.net/img/0/2/1302.jpg)
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Post by: Butterbean on April 10, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
Indeed!  :)

'Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy.'

"The hell with them boys.  Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms."


"It ain't for eaten, it's for lookin' through."
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:21:32 PM
"My so called education" involved 6 years at a university of higher learning. Your "so called education" involved half an hour at your computer monitor.

If you want to speak on physiques, I am at 9.7 percent bodyfat (bod pod tested as of 11 days ago) and I can bench press 315lbs for 2 clean reps. You appear to at 20-25 percent bodyfat, evident by the lack of tricep definition and obvious lipid storage in the upper arm region typical of males exceeding 18 percent bodyfat. Furthermore, I can see your stomach protruding despite your black shirt and the usage of overhead lighting. Given the large stomach, high level of lipid storage in the extremeties, wide hips and narrow shoulders I would suggest that you visit your endocrinologist and get a complete hormone panel. Your lipid storage is estrogenic in nature and your skeletal structure is similar to one that has suffered from primary hypogonadism as well as hyperaromatization.

315 for whole 2 clean reps.....you're a BEAST!
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:21:45 PM
Please address your evident hormonal deficiency that I illustrated in the above post.

Please state which hormone are you referring to.  There's more than one you know..... ::)
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Post by: buffdnet on April 10, 2010, 04:21:51 PM
Quote
can bench press 315lbs for 2 clean reps
SURE HOMO
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 04:22:21 PM

 ???

(http://img.moronail.net/img/0/2/1302.jpg)

Sorry, I forgot that you did not attend college and your education is a falsehood based off of non-collegiate unrecognized internet tests. Would you like me to re-word my post into more 'high school friendly' language?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:26:54 PM
"My so called education" involved 6 years at a university of higher learning. Your "so called education" involved half an hour at your computer monitor.

If you want to speak on physiques, I am at 9.7 percent bodyfat (bod pod tested as of 11 days ago) and I can bench press 315lbs for 2 clean reps. You appear to at 20-25 percent bodyfat, evident by the lack of tricep definition and obvious lipid storage in the upper arm region typical of males exceeding 18 percent bodyfat. Furthermore, I can see your stomach protruding despite your black shirt and the usage of overhead lighting. Given the large stomach, high level of lipid storage in the extremeties, wide hips and narrow shoulders I would suggest that you visit your endocrinologist and get a complete hormone panel. Your lipid storage is estrogenic in nature and your skeletal structure is similar to one that has suffered from primary hypogonadism as well as hyperaromatization.

Oh, oh...analyze me Mr. Masters.....

I'm 5'6 205 here



(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/DSCN0280-2.jpg)
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 04:30:35 PM
"The hell with them boys.  Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms."


"It ain't for eaten, it's for lookin' through."
Atta girl. While the lads bitch, we'll do Clint dialogue.  ;D

/proofreading tonight.   :-X
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Post by: Hulkotron on April 10, 2010, 04:31:55 PM
HR I am skeptical that you can bench 315 for any clean reps based on your avatar's slight appearance.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 04:32:41 PM
Sorry, I forgot that you did not attend college and your education is a falsehood based off of non-collegiate unrecognized internet tests. Would you like me to re-word my post into more 'high school friendly' language?

I did attend college...for engineering which is something worth my time.  You don't need 4 years much less even one year to be a personal trainer.  A massage therapist is more complicated work and it requires only a year.  

You wasted your time, pal.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:34:39 PM
HR I am skeptical that you can bench 315 for any clean reps based on your avatar's slight appearance.

He meant it took 2 reps from his spotter to pry it off his neck when it pinned his ass.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:42:13 PM
Special thanks to "hugeripped". Because of you calling me out I go an extra 205 hits on my website. Thank you.

Goes to show, bad publicity is actually good. I should be more controversial.
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Post by: Devon97 on April 10, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
HR,

Please provide valid proof of your M.S. & B.S. Degrees.

Also what is yoru job description?
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Post by: drkaje on April 10, 2010, 04:52:14 PM
5'6"?!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 04:53:54 PM
He can't prove it,
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:00:48 PM
I agree, but in all fairness I wasn't on a whole lot. But that's another thread.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 05:03:15 PM
"The Coach:" If you are trying to match physiques with mine, then you need to 1) remove all overhead lighting, 2) stop standing so close to the camera and 3) pose in a front double biceps with stomach vaccuum. You are using a variety of camera angle and shadowing tricks to try and appear more muscular than I am.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 05:07:12 PM
"The Coach:" If you are trying to match physiques with mine, then you need to 1) remove all overhead lighting, 2) stop standing so close to the camera and 3) pose in a front double biceps with stomach vaccuum. You are using a variety of camera angle and shadowing tricks to try and appear more muscular than I am.


 ::)


This is the best gimmick ever since local stud.... ;D
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Post by: WillGrant on April 10, 2010, 05:12:31 PM

 ::)


This is the best gimmick ever since local stud.... ;D
We know he is a "gimmick" but the sad fact is he is mimmicking your outlook..he looks like shit doesnt back up what he says and is full of excuses.

That is you to a Tee
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:24:20 PM
"The Coach:" If you are trying to match physiques with mine, then you need to 1) remove all overhead lighting, 2) stop standing so close to the camera and 3) pose in a front double biceps with stomach vaccuum. You are using a variety of camera angle and shadowing tricks to try and appear more muscular than I am.


Is this better..hahahaha

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe.jpg)
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 05:29:28 PM

Is this better..hahahaha

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/joe.jpg)
Coach looking good.

/schmoe behind him is obligatory    ;D
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Post by: drkaje on April 10, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Coach looking good.

/schmoe behind him is obligatory    ;D

Someone's gotta help him with the ProTan.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
Hey "hugeripped" I also have fighter who fought today in Abu Dhabi. Big pay day. How you like them apples???hahahahahaha
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 10, 2010, 05:31:37 PM
Coach looking good.

/schmoe behind him is obligatory    ;D

haha, is that a pencil in his pocket?

and Coach looks great.  People can criticize him all they want, but he had an exceptional physique.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:32:19 PM
Coach looking good.

/schmoe behind him is obligatory    ;D

Ha!
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Post by: Vince B on April 10, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
That's why I read the shit around here.  Makes me hit the weights even harder

Keith and I are great motivators! You should be more grateful for our help, Melvin.

Btw, what is that lump on your calf?
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Post by: Wiggs on April 10, 2010, 05:41:31 PM
Coach is a midget and a republican?  Double fail.
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Post by: Montague on April 10, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
Ha!


For someone who doesn't "bodybuild," you look pretty dang good, man.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 10, 2010, 05:43:22 PM
Coach is a midget and a republican?  Double fail.


Like being a democrat is a successful thing..... :-\
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Post by: Wiggs on April 10, 2010, 05:48:37 PM

Like being a democrat is a successful thing..... :-\

Didn't say it was assface, don't you have an abortion clinic to blow up?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:52:25 PM
C"mon guys, this the "hugeripped" pwning thread, stay on track.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 10, 2010, 05:53:13 PM
Didn't say it was assface, don't you have an abortion clinic to blow up?

Huh?  Why so hostile?.......bunch of estrogen filled bitches on here lately.
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
Didn't say it was assface, don't you have an abortion clinic to blow up?
Abortion Doctor to assassinate, you mean. You obviously got the wrong 'assignment' Wiggsy. Please see the company gunnery sergeant.    ;)
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 10, 2010, 05:55:55 PM
Abortion Doctor to assassinate, you mean. You obviously got the wrong 'assignment' Wiggsy. Please see the company gunnery sergeant.    ;)

Wiggs is gettin' all uppity on me....I didn't realize he harbored such ill will towards me.....
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 05:57:05 PM
Please focus
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 10, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
hr is lying through his teeth.

you could not get a masters in exercise science from a bachelors in nutrition- they are two totally different fields.

exercise science involves 3 areas: physiology, biomechanics and psychology. Of which only physiology would remotely touch on nutrition.

nice try gimmick, but the panda is no fool.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 10, 2010, 06:06:18 PM
hr is lying through his teeth.

you could not get a masters in exercise science from a bachelors in nutrition- they are two totally different fields.

exercise science involves 3 areas: physiology, biomechanics and psychology. Of which only physiology would remotely touch on nutrition.

nice try gimmick, but the panda is no fool.


while I don't agree with the last line of your post, you are correct on the rest.... ;D
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Post by: benchmstr on April 10, 2010, 06:08:53 PM
my cock is huge...

bench
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:10:51 PM
i know that getting a degree in Kinesiology requires a that u take a bunch of biomechanix and anatomy n physiology

i took biomechanix of human movement in college, out of sheer curiosity (which in turn requires that u have taken physics and calc...and the hard calc..not the one easy calc business majors take) and it ws a pretty tuff class......

at least that particular major has no requirements for nutrition (to my knowlodge)


why r we discussing this again?...i didn't wanna read 7 friggin pages of this before jumping in ???
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 10, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
Keith and I are great motivators! You should be more grateful for our help, Melvin.

Btw, what is that lump on your calf?

No, you two are just annoying and too needy for attention from me.
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 06:12:56 PM
nice try gimmick, but the panda is no fool.
Really!? Panda melts faster than a taper in a Tibetan monastery.  ;D
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Post by: benchmstr on April 10, 2010, 06:16:52 PM
i just took a shit so horrible that i permanently sealed off the bathroom from the rest of the house due to concerns of total contamination!!!

bench
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
i know that getting a degree in Kinesiology requires a that u take a bunch of biomechanix and anatomy n physiology

i took biomechanix of human movement in college, out of sheer curiosity (which in turn requires that u have taken physics and calc...and the hard calc..not the one easy calc business majors take) and it ws a pretty tuff class......

at least that particular major has no requirements for nutrition (to my knowlodge)


why r we discussing this again?...i didn't wanna read 7 friggin pages of this before jumping in ???

We were discussing how much of a genius "HugeRipped" is!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:19:48 PM
i just took a shit so horrible that i permanently sealed off the bathroom from the rest of the house due to concerns of total contamination!!!

bench

I tend to do that at my gym.
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:20:54 PM
We were discussing how much of a genius "HugeRipped" is!

ok i read the first post in this thread....

did you...like pork his girl or summthin?

thats quite a lengthy post, hense quite a bit of effort to defame you....
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Post by: drkaje on April 10, 2010, 06:23:09 PM
We need a GetBig brain trust, LOL!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
ok i read the first post in this thread....

did you...like pork his girl or summthin?

thats quite a lengthy post, hense quite a bit of effort to defame you....

You really have to wonder about some people like "HugeRipped" who claim to have a Masters degree and all of this education but have the time to do all of this research trying to defame someone on a bodybuilding forum. Sounds like the ultimate loser to me.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:27:39 PM
We need a GetBig brain trust, LOL!

Hahaha!
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:29:24 PM
You really have to wonder about some people like "HugeRipped" who claim to have a Masters degree and all of this education but have the time to do all of this research trying to defame someone on a bodybuilding forum. Sounds like the ultimate loser to me.


what does he have a masters in?  a quick few well formulated specifically targeted questions and we can find out for sure....

<i dont have a masters but i never shy away from questions in my specific field of study....if nothing else its a chance to learn some thing new>
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 06:30:19 PM
We need a GetBig brain trust, LOL!
LOL. Like FDR's team of dollar-a year-men.  Put me down as a Porn Czar.  8)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:31:02 PM
what does he have a masters in?  a quick few well formulated specifically targeted questions and we can find out for sure....

<i dont have a masters but i never shy away from questions in my specific field of study....if nothing else its a chance to learn some thing new>

I asked him a few questions and wouldn't (couldn't) answer them.
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Post by: drkaje on April 10, 2010, 06:34:48 PM
LOL. Like FDR's team of dollar-a year-men.  Put me down as a Porn Czar.  8)

We also need a Bran Trust.

A lot of GetBiggers are full of shit.
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
I asked him a few questions and wouldn't (couldn't) answer them.
Did you specify he couldn't use googleTM or cut-and-paste?  ;D
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:36:19 PM
I asked him a few questions and wouldn't (couldn't) answer them.

middle of page 1 he says

Quote
I have an M.S. in exercise science and a B.S. in Nutrition and Dietics

well....i know a few and they spend their days in Kinesiology<knes> labs doing research hooking up people to wierd looking machines ....i have a friend in the Knes lab and he spends his days in labs that look incredibly boring (to me) ...working mostly on what look like really old college professors (and the odd Univ Maryland athlete)....point being
1) huge and ripped looks way to young to have a masters ....those above i talk about are in their late 30s or 40s
2) People with masters level of education have better grooming in vernacular and social tact (but thats my impression)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:39:05 PM
middle of page 1 he says

well....i know a few and they spend their days in Kinesiology<knes> labs doing research hooking up people to wierd looking machines ....i have a friend in the Knes lab and he spends his days in labs that look incredibly boring (to me) ...working mostly on what look like really old college professors (and the odd Univ Maryland athlete)....point being
1) huge and ripped looks way to young to have a masters ....those above i talk about are in their late 30s or 40s
2) People with masters level of education have better grooming in vernacular and social tact (but thats my impression)

Maybe he's an academic prodigy (just trying to think what he might say)..LOL.
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Post by: drkaje on April 10, 2010, 06:41:23 PM
Maybe he's an academic prodigy (just trying to think what he might say)..LOL.

Like Doogie Howser?!!?
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:41:46 PM
Maybe he's an academic prodigy (just trying to think what he might say)..LOL.

on getbig? dunno man...there ws a guy named "marble" that used to post on the juice board i thought ws pretty smart...

but prodigy?  prodigies dont get involved in bbing no?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
Like Doogie Howser?!!?

Exactly!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 06:45:04 PM
on getbig? dunno man...there ws a guy named "marble" that used to post on the juice board i thought ws pretty smart...

but prodigy?  prodigies dont get involved in bbing no?

Toxie...he's a gimmick we're f**king with. Don't take this guy too seriously. Relax Bud, you've been studying too hard. Pull back for about an hour and have a beer on me 8)!
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 10, 2010, 06:46:47 PM
Toxie...he's a gimmick we're f**king with. Don't take this guy too seriously. Relax Bud, you've been studying too hard. Pull back for about an hour and have a beer on me 8)!

i've spent most of today watching "monster quest" re runs and eating junk...sats are off days for me...at least as of 2 weeks ago they r....

cant drink till i pass my test though  :-\
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Post by: RJ DRIVER on April 10, 2010, 07:50:07 PM
Coach is a midget and a republican?  Double fail.
Don't bring that Obama loving bullshit in this thread. Go take your free healthcare and forty acres and a mule welfare check and get the fuck outta here!
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Post by: jtsunami on April 10, 2010, 08:02:04 PM
lol always great to see a close minded repub get owned
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 08:09:20 PM
JT, you really arnt that bright are ya?
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Post by: Bodybuilding Related on April 10, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
My patented lat routine has resluted in multiple titles for pros that have hired me.  Axe deep cuts gaurnteed for only $1,000.00 a week.

Good post.
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Post by: Devon97 on April 10, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
IF Huge Ripped happens to wake up Pregnant tomorrow,....... we know The Coach is the Daddy!  ;D
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 10, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
 ::)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iLSmTPwJGZY/SoQTt7mV3fI/AAAAAAAAZCs/Sg17Se7QUOE/s400/1.jpg)
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Post by: dr.chimps on April 10, 2010, 08:35:18 PM
::)
Tape's imprimatur. "Nuff said.
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
We know he is a "gimmick" but the sad fact is he is mimmicking your outlook..he looks like shit doesnt back up what he says and is full of excuses.

That is you to a Tee

I swear I was thinking the exact same thing.  The only thing is HugeRaped talks fancier.  But both are delusional as hell.  Coach beats the shot out of both of them so easy it's funny
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 10:49:39 PM
hr is lying through his teeth.

you could not get a masters in exercise science from a bachelors in nutrition- they are two totally different fields.

exercise science involves 3 areas: physiology, biomechanics and psychology. Of which only physiology would remotely touch on nutrition.

nice try gimmick, but the panda is no fool.


I have repeatedly stated that I hold B.S. degrees in both Exercise Science and Nutrition. If you dont believe me, go through my post history. Yet another fraud devoid of education trying to debase my credentials out of sheer jealousy.

"The Coach:" Why do you feel the need to consistently hide behind overhead lighting and getting extremely close to the camera? Are you concerned that your 5'6'' frame will be easily outmuscled by me? Either post a photo of yourself in a front double biceps (with total stomach vaccuum) devoid of any overhead lighting and stepping away from the camera or dont waste my time. How fitting that a man who cannot admit to his customers that he dropped out of college cannot take a picture without camera angles and shadowing.
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 10:53:07 PM
I have repeatedly stayed that I have hold B.S. degrees in both Exercise Science and Nutrition. If you dont believe me, go through my post history. Yet another fraud devoid of education trying to debase my credentials out of sheer jealousy.

"The Coach:" Why do you feel the need to consistently hide behind overhead lighting and getting extremely close to the camera? Are you concerned that your 5'6'' frame will be easily outmuscled by me? Either post a photo of yourself in a front double biceps (with total stomach vaccuum) devoid of any overhead lighting and stepping away from the camera or dont waste my time. How fitting that a man who cannot admit to his customers that he dropped out of college cannot take a picture without camera angles and shadowing.

Sayinmg it and proving you have it is two different things.  So far everything you have said is bullshit.  So you gotta figure all these fake degrees you say you have but can't prove you have them is bullshit too.  And you have admitted to having a subpar physique and strength.  Basically you are a white Goodrum.  We all make fun of you.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
Sayinmg it and proving you have it is two different things.  So far everything you have said is bullshit.  So you gotta figure all these fake degrees you say you have but can't prove you have them is bullshit too.  And you have admitted to having a subpar physique and strength.  Basically you are a white Goodrum.  We all make fun of you.

Based on the horrendous grammar and ESL quality sentence structure of your post, I assume your level of education does not exceed the american public high school system. It does not take a big stretch of imagination to realize that you are attempting to debase me on an internet bodybuilding forum out of jealousy for 1) my impressive academic credentials and 2) my success in the fitness field. Unlike you, I exist as a highly functional adult beyond the scope of internet message boards; I am an extremely successful fitness professional. On the topic of my physique, I realize that I have plenty of personal improvements to make, but for someone that has only been bodybulding for 2 years, (I have engaged in regular resistance training for general health for 7 years) my body blows away most of the trash talkers on this board. I have lower bodyfat and better definition than 99 percent of the people in this entire forum, in a picture devoid of any overhead lighting or camera tricks.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:01:31 PM
I have repeatedly stated that I hold B.S. degrees in both Exercise Science and Nutrition. If you dont believe me, go through my post history. Yet another fraud devoid of education trying to debase my credentials out of sheer jealousy.

"The Coach:" Why do you feel the need to consistently hide behind overhead lighting and getting extremely close to the camera? Are you concerned that your 5'6'' frame will be easily outmuscled by me? Either post a photo of yourself in a front double biceps (with total stomach vaccuum) devoid of any overhead lighting and stepping away from the camera or dont waste my time. How fitting that a man who cannot admit to his customers that he dropped out of college cannot take a picture without camera angles and shadowing.

Are you f**king retarded? It's an outside shot. What, do you think I asked God to move the sun 14 degrees to the left and add some shadow to my "pecs"? LMAO...this gimmick is priceless even if it is TA or Leafy..hahahahahahaha!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
Based on the horrendous grammar and ESL quality sentence structure of your post, I assume your level of education does not exceed the american public high school system. It does not take a big stretch of imagination to realize that you are attempting to debase me on an internet bodybuilding forum out of jealousy for 1) my impressive academic credentials and 2) my success in the fitness field. Unlike you, I exist as a highly functional adult beyond the scope of internet message boards; I am an extremely successful fitness professional. On the topic of my physique, I realize that I have plenty of personal improvements to make, but for someone that has only been bodybulding for 2 years, (I have engaged in regular resistance training for general health for 7 years) my body blows away most of the trash talkers on this board. I have lower bodyfat and better definition than 99 percent of the people in this entire forum, in a picture devoid of any overhead lighting or camera tricks.

Funny because I've found numerous grammar and spelling mistakes in your posts....hahaha. Don't walk to far away without your crash helmet!
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
Based on the horrendous grammar and ESL quality sentence structure of your post, I assume your level of education does not exceed the american public high school system. It does not take a big stretch of imagination to realize that you are attempting to debase me on an internet bodybuilding forum out of jealousy for 1) my impressive academic credentials and 2) my success in the fitness field. Unlike you, I exist as a highly functional adult beyond the scope of internet message boards; I am an extremely successful fitness professional. On the topic of my physique, I realize that I have plenty of personal improvements to make, but for someone that has only been bodybulding for 2 years, (I have engaged in regular resistance training for general health for 7 years) my body blows away most of the trash talkers on this board. I have lower bodyfat and better definition than 99 percent of the people in this entire forum, in a picture devoid of any overhead lighting or camera tricks.

Shit I barely graduated from high school  Bet you anything I have made alot more money than you have.  And I bet you anything I have acheived athletically more than you ever will too.  So all in all you are a waste of space.  hahahaah  who got the last laugh.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Are you f**king retarded? It's an outside shot. What, do you think I asked God to move the sun 14 degrees to the left and add some shadow to my "pecs"? LMAO...this gimmick is priceless even if it is TA or Leafy..hahahahahahaha!

You aren't fooling anyone, you obviously had that picture taken when and where you did because the angle of the light provided you with accentuated shadowing and thus exaggerated definition - not to mention how close you got to the camera (yet again) to increase the illusion of muscular size. I feel bad for you that you are wrought with such a deep seeded level of insecurity that you cannot even take a picture of yourself without camera tricks and exaggerated shadows. You are a 5'6'' man that cannot admit he dropped out of college 30 years ago, nor accept his own body.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:06:59 PM
You aren't fooling anyone, you obviously had that picture taken when and where you did because the angle of the light provided you with accentuated shadowing and thus exaggerated definition - not to mention how close you got to the camera (yet again) to increase the illusion of muscular size. I feel bad for you that you are wrought with such a deep seeded level of insecurity that you cannot even take a picture of yourself without camera tricks and exaggerated shadows. You are a 5'6'' man that cannot admit he dropped out of college 30 years ago, nor accept his own body.

LOL..priceless ;D
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:10:43 PM
Shit I barely graduated from high school  Bet you anything I have made alot more money than you have.  And I bet you anything I have acheived athletically more than you ever will too.  So all in all you are a waste of space.  hahahaah  who got the last laugh.

Your lack of education is evident from your horrendous grasp (or lack thereof) of the english language, but thank you for confirming my doubts as to your intellectual voracity. Do not embarass yourself any further in attempting to compare annual income with me. The fact that you would even bring up such a comparison speeks to the crass and low-class nature of your very character. I will save you the public shame and recapitulate that I am extremely successful in the fitness field, leave it at that lest you leave this thread with your proverbial tail tucked between your legs. In terms of athletic ability, I can bench press 315lbs for two solid repititions and I can squat 405lbs to parallel - all at 9.7 percent bodyfat.
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Post by: Alexander D on April 10, 2010, 11:16:28 PM
Clearly, HugeRipped has never gotten laid. (by a woman)

-A DUB
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:17:10 PM
Your lack of education is evident from your horrendous grasp (or lack thereof) of the english language, but thank you for confirming my doubts as to your intellectual voracity. Do not embarass yourself any further in attempting to compare annual income with me. The fact that you would even bring up such a comparison speeks to the crass and low-class nature of your very character. I will save you the public shame and recapitulate that I am extremely successful in the fitness field, leave it at that lest you leave this thread with your proverbial tail tucked between your legs. In terms of athletic ability, I can bench press 315lbs for two solid repititions and I can squat 405lbs to parallel - all at 9.7 percent bodyfat.

hahaaha thanks for admitting you are a waste and failure.  Your lack of achievements is evident from your desperate posts of trying to sound smart but without any kind of proof of education.  All you can do is talk.  basically you are a typical internet troll.  a pretender, a delusionalmite.  Simply put a non-achiever.  Keep it up cause you look dum,ber and dumber with each post.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:19:53 PM
hahaaha thanks for admitting you are a waste and failure.  Your lack of achievements is evident from your desperate posts of trying to sound smart but without any kind of proof of education.  All you can do is talk.  basically you are a typical internet troll.  a pretender, a delusionalmite.  Simply put a non-achiever.  Keep it up cause you look dum,ber and dumber with each post.

When one steps into my office they see my two Bachelors and my Masters hanging on my wall. They also see my CSCS certification and my NCSF certification. Please tell me, what degrees do you possess?
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Post by: io856 on April 10, 2010, 11:21:31 PM
When one steps into my office they see my two Bachelors and my Masters hanging on my wall. They also see my CSCS certification and my NCSF certification. Please tell me, what degrees do you possess?
Thats actually pretty cool... I would most definitely take you very seriously... Where these degrees from reputable institutions?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:21:58 PM
Your lack of education is evident from your horrendous grasp (or lack thereof) of the english language, but thank you for confirming my doubts as to your intellectual voracity. Do not embarass yourself any further in attempting to compare annual income with me. The fact that you would even bring up such a comparison speeks to the crass and low-class nature of your very character. I will save you the public shame and recapitulate that I am extremely successful in the fitness field, leave it at that lest you leave this thread with your proverbial tail tucked between your legs. In terms of athletic ability, I can bench press 315lbs for two solid repititions and I can squat 405lbs to parallel - all at 9.7 percent bodyfat.

You spelled "repetitions" wrong and "body fat" is two words genius!

If you're going to be a gimmick at least make it believable..fuck!
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Post by: Alexander D on April 10, 2010, 11:22:10 PM
When one steps into my office they see my two Bachelors and my Masters hanging on my wall. They also see my CSCS certification and my NCSF certification. Please tell me, what degrees do you possess?

They also see a skinny fat twink with a blacked out face too LOL I wouldn't pay a squirt of piss for anything you have to say related to fitness/health.

-A DUB
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:24:36 PM
Thats actually pretty cool... I would most definitely take you very seriously... Where these degrees from reputable institutions?

Yes, I completed both my undergraduate and post graduate studies at one of the most competitive and prestigious universities in america.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:26:36 PM
Yes, I completed both my undergraduate and post graduate studies at one of the most competitive and prestigious universities in america.

Where? If we don't know who you are it shouldn't matter whether you told us or not. Right?
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Yes, I completed both my undergraduate and post graduate studies at one of the most competitive and prestigious universities in america.

\yea sure you did ::)
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
When one steps into my office they see my two Bachelors and my Masters hanging on my wall. They also see my CSCS certification and my NCSF certification. Please tell me, what degrees do you possess?

Show them dipshit
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:31:13 PM
When one steps into my office they see my two Bachelors and my Masters hanging on my wall. They also see my CSCS certification and my NCSF certification. Please tell me, what degrees do you possess?

Where do you put your Nobel Prize, 3 Medals of Honor and your Pulitzer.  Do you still wear your 8 World Series rings
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:31:21 PM
They also see a skinny fat twink with a blacked out face too LOL I wouldn't pay a squirt of piss for anything you have to say related to fitness/health.

-A DUB

I am neither skinny nor fat. I tested my bodyfat percentage in the Bod Pod recently and it was measured at 9.7 percent. In case you are not up to date on cutting edge fitness technology, the Bod Pod is the most accurate bodyfat assessment tool available today. Furthermore, you would only be cheating yourself by ignoring my health and fitness advice which has been crafted over six years of higher learning at one of america's most rigorous universities.

In reality, all of you would beg me for a fitness consultation. The harsh truth is that jealousy is catalyzed by the presence of a figure who possesses what one both desires and lacks and it is easier to vent one's jealousy in the form of anger through an anonymous means. Those that attempt to debase me on this message board through faceless monickers are people with subpar physiques who live in shame and regret at the compromises they have made to their own lives. I represent what many of you will never achieve: highly educated success, doing what I love to do in a field that I am passionate about.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:33:08 PM
I'm done with this clown. He's worn out.
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Post by: noworries on April 10, 2010, 11:33:54 PM
I am neither skinny nor fat. I tested my bodyfat percentage in the Bod Pod recently and it was measured at 9.7 percent. In case you are not up to date on cutting edge fitness technology, the Bod Pod is the most accurate bodyfat assessment tool available today. Furthermore, you would only be cheating yourself by ignoring my health and fitness advice which has been crafted over six years of higher learning at one of america's most rigorous universities.

In reality, all of you would beg me for a fitness consultation. The harsh truth is that jealousy is catalyzed by the presence of a figure who possesses what one both desires and lacks and it is easier to vent one's jealousy in the form of anger through an anonymous means. Those that attempt to debase me on this message board through faceless monickers are people with subpar physiques who live in shame and regret at the compromises they have made to their own lives. I represent what many of you will never achieve: highly educated success, doing what I love to do in a field that I am passionate about.
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Post by: io856 on April 10, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
In reality, all of you would beg me for a fitness consultation.

I represent what many of you will never achieve: highly educated success, doing what I love to do in a field that I am passionate about.
Nicely said, but Coach and noworries are bad examples as both pursued their dreams/aspirations... doing/have done well in their chosen fields


...and yes I would most definitely like input from somebody with such academic achievement. Why do you give away some of your extensive knowledge for free on getbig?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:39:42 PM
Nicely said, but Coach and noworries are bad examples as both pursued their dreams/aspirations... doing/have done well in their chosen fields


...and yes I would most definitely like input from somebody with such academic achievement. Why do you give away some of your extensive knowledge for free on getbig?

Bad examples of what?
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Post by: io856 on April 10, 2010, 11:41:08 PM
Bad examples of what?
omg  ::)

bad examples of people who are not successful in fields they are passionate about
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:42:46 PM
omg  ::)

bad examples of people who are not successful in fields they are passionate about

Am I missing something, I'm not passionate about my field?
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Post by: io856 on April 10, 2010, 11:44:29 PM
Am I missing something, I'm not passionate about my field?
No you are, I assume... thus a bad example of his rhetoric...

Dear lord, no wonder you didn't finish your college degree. This is painful...
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Post by: disturbia on April 10, 2010, 11:49:09 PM
ummm has there ever been a worse owning than the one coach had put on hr---this is messy
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 10, 2010, 11:50:21 PM
Nicely said, but Coach and noworries are bad examples as both pursued their dreams/aspirations... doing/have done well in their chosen fields


...and yes I would most definitely like input from somebody with such academic achievement. Why do you give away some of your extensive knowledge for free on getbig?

"The Coach" is a man who is wrought with deep seeded insecurities. He lists his education as the college he dropped out of since he is unable to admit to himself and his clientele that he is simply a middle aged man with nothing more than a high school diploma. His team of experts includes a chiropractor/massage therapist who was educated in a school that was sued for criminal behavior by the US Government and has a history of working at unprofessional, fly-by-night "clinics" and is associates with people of fraudulent licensure. A true fitness professional with a decent education and solid character would not try to make a quick buck of his customer base by peddling snake oil supplements and claiming to have any experience in athletic training. Naive consumers are tricked by his 3 online certifications and learn their lesson when they find themselves unprepared and losing in their athletic venues. Furthermore, it would be irresponsible of me not to mention that both "The Coach" and his wifeabuse illegal drugs for vanity purposes. Would you blindly hand your money to a drug addled college drop out middle aged man?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 10, 2010, 11:57:45 PM
"The Coach" is a man who is wrought with deep seeded insecurities. He lists his education as the college he dropped out of since he is unable to admit to himself and his clientele that he is simply a middle aged man with nothing more than a high school diploma. His team of experts includes a chiropractor/massage therapist who was educated in a school that was sued for criminal behavior by the US Government and has a history of working at unprofessional, fly-by-night "clinics" and is associates with people of fraudulent licensure. A true fitness professional with a decent education and solid character would not try to make a quick buck of his customer base by peddling snake oil supplements and claiming to have any experience in athletic training. Naive consumers are tricked by his 3 online certifications and learn their lesson when they find themselves unprepared and losing in their athletic venues. Furthermore, it would be irresponsible of me not to mention that both "The Coach" and his wifeabuse illegal drugs for vanity purposes. Would you blindly hand your money to a drug addled college drop out middle aged man?

Damn, you're relentless. Oh well, have at it. Can't answer where you got your "masters" oh brother, can't answer simple training questions or physiology questions yet he says he possesses a "masters" degree. LOL!
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Post by: io856 on April 10, 2010, 11:59:01 PM
A true fitness professional with a decent education and solid character would not try to make a quick buck of his customer base by peddling snake oil supplements and claiming to have any experience in athletic training. Naive consumers are tricked by his 3 online certifications and learn their lesson when they find themselves unprepared and losing in their athletic venues.

Don't forget even his middle aged celebrity clients whom come to MPF for vanity purposes unable to maintain their partner's interest. ala Sandra Bullock

Haven't seen your pic gimmick boy, but who gives a shit anyway, he's sick rich, married to Sandra Bullock (my client as well). Soooo, "MJK" what did you say you've done in life? hahahahahahahahahaha!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 11, 2010, 12:03:23 AM
Don't forget even his middle aged celebrity clients whom come to MPF for vanity purposes unable to maintain their partner's interest. ala Sandra Bullock


Yes..don't forget that.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 11, 2010, 12:06:18 AM
Damn, you're relentless. Oh well, have at it. Can't answer where you got your "masters" oh brother, can't answer simple training questions or physiology questions yet he says he possesses a "masters" degree. LOL!

You attempted to get me to answer fitness related questions because you did not know the answer to them. As evidenced by my academic credentials, I am intellectually superior to you so do not think you can trick me into doing your own homework for you. Is it about time for you to get re-certified in one of your many prestigious online certifications and you need to hit the books? You open up the door to your own embarassment and shame every time you bring education into this, as you are a college dropout that tries to decieve prospective clients into believing that you graduated with a degree in exercise science. Not only are you a middle aged man with no education level beyond high school, but you and your virilized spouse regularly abuse illegal drugs. Once again, I pose the question to the general public: would you hand your money over to a middle aged drug abuser whose only level of education was when he graduated high school thirty years ago? The answer is "no" and that is why you hide behind a deceptive resume and peddle snake oil.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 11, 2010, 12:09:48 AM
You attempted to get me to answer fitness related questions because you did not know the answer to them. As evidenced by my academic credentials, I am intellectually superior to you so do not think you can trick me into doing your own homework for you. Is it about time for you to get re-certified in one of your many prestigious online certifications and you need to hit the books? You open up the door to your own embarassment and shame every time you bring education into this, as you are a college dropout that tries to decieve prospective clients into believing that you graduated with a degree in exercise science. Not only are you a middle aged man with no education level beyond high school, but you and your virilized spouse regularly abuse illegal drugs. Once again, I pose the question to the general public: would you hand your money over to a middle aged drug abuser whose only level of education was when he graduated high school thirty years ago? The answer is "no" and that is why you hide behind a deceptive resume and peddle snake oil.

Like most of getbig, you're a child. I'm tired, good night and don't let me own your mind too much.
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Post by: webcake on April 11, 2010, 12:10:41 AM
Coach is doing well for himself. Good for him. New gym, celebrity clients.........living the dream.
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Post by: io856 on April 11, 2010, 12:12:41 AM
A man of such credibility and esteem in the fitness industry much hold disdain for these charlatans and scam artists. Those feelings must extend themselves to a call to action and a desire to expose the filth. Don't excuse this or flatter yourself with a supposed infatuation...
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 11, 2010, 12:13:28 AM
Like most of getbig, you're a child. I'm tired, good night and don't let me own your mind too much.

Yet another thread in which you leave with your tail between your legs, shamed and humiliated by the public airing of your shortcomings and failures. How does it make you feel that I am about half your age, twice as successful and exponentially more educated and knowledgeable?
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Post by: webcake on April 11, 2010, 12:15:15 AM
io, when did you get your competitor stars?
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Post by: Rhino on April 11, 2010, 12:21:17 AM
This has gotta be a joke.  ???
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Post by: Kwon on April 11, 2010, 12:23:20 AM
If i was an athlete i'd rather pick Coach over HugeRipped any day! :)

HugeRippeds whole first post reeks of sour grapes! :D

Not someone i'd want to be working with.
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Post by: HTexan on April 11, 2010, 12:57:09 AM
So coach is lying about finishing college? If someone reports him he will be it trouble.
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Post by: TEsticles on April 11, 2010, 01:08:06 AM
coach = living his dream.

H R  = envy , jealousy.
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Post by: HTexan on April 11, 2010, 01:10:12 AM
coach = living his dream.

H R  = envy , jealousy.
He gets banged by soap studs everyday.  :-X ;D
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Post by: Kwon on April 11, 2010, 02:33:25 AM
He gets banged by soap studs everyday.  :-X ;D

We all have our dreams.
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Post by: Rhino on April 11, 2010, 02:35:41 AM
I respect that he's well educated. But it's a joke for sure.
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Post by: wes on April 11, 2010, 03:25:31 AM
Joes left forearm is bigger than HR whole body.

Nuff said!!
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 11, 2010, 04:55:16 AM
There's only two trainers I'd enlist on getbig. Johnny Failcan and Tim Westcocks.
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Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2010, 05:39:44 AM
Results are what matters when it comes to training.
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 11, 2010, 05:54:18 AM
Results are what matters when it comes to training.

I have the best of intentions. 
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Post by: johnnynoname on April 11, 2010, 06:29:07 AM
This all boils down to arguments over personal training accredation.

As a ACSM certified personal trainer, I can tell u that we are nothing but glorified pool boys ( despite what the coach and that piece of shit with legs goodrum says)

the only one with a real accredation is Spike
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Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2010, 07:17:19 AM
This all boils down to arguments over personal training accredation.

As a ACSM certified personal trainer, I can tell u that we are nothing but glorified pool boys ( despite what the coach and that piece of shit with legs goodrum says)

the only one with a real accredation is Spike

Most lower level trainers are just paid friends that count reps while cheerleading clients. There's really not a damn thing wrong with that.

College or not, if Coach is making a good living and providing a service clients are satisfied with I'm happy for him. I'm happy for anyone who finds success doing something they love and are good at.
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2010, 07:22:14 AM
while I don't agree with the last line of your post, you are correct on the rest.... ;D
:o :( :'( how rude  >:(


Really!? Panda melts faster than a taper in a Tibetan monastery.  ;D

hi chimps - like a moth to a flame...........

We need a GetBig brain trust, LOL!

we already have one - team nasser !
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Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2010, 07:29:54 AM
:o :( :'( how rude  >:(


hi chimps - like a moth to a flame...........

we already have one - team nasser !

Like anyone could trust the brains of a bunch of gauys idolizing a washed up bodybuilder who hasn't won a damn thing in over ten years.
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2010, 07:30:09 AM
I have repeatedly stated that I hold B.S. degrees in both Exercise Science and Nutrition. If you dont believe me, go through my post history. Yet another fraud devoid of education trying to debase my credentials out of sheer jealousy.

"The Coach:" Why do you feel the need to consistently hide behind overhead lighting and getting extremely close to the camera? Are you concerned that your 5'6'' frame will be easily outmuscled by me? Either post a photo of yourself in a front double biceps (with total stomach vaccuum) devoid of any overhead lighting and stepping away from the camera or dont waste my time. How fitting that a man who cannot admit to his customers that he dropped out of college cannot take a picture without camera angles and shadowing.

hahahaha now you have two Bsc's and an Msc hahahahahahhhahahahahaha hahahahaha

I have plenty of personal improvements to make, but for someone that has only been bodybulding for 2 years, (I have engaged in regular resistance training for general health for 7 years) my body blows away most of the trash talkers on this board. I have lower bodyfat and better definition than 99 percent of the people in this entire forum, in a picture devoid of any overhead lighting or camera tricks.

you have been working out for 7 years and this is what you look like  ???
(http://i44.tinypic.com/v5zq53.jpg)

did you try to lift any weight in that time ?
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2010, 07:37:32 AM
Like anyone could trust the brains of a bunch of gauys idolizing a washed up bodybuilder who hasn't won a damn thing in over ten years.

regardless he is, was, and all ways shall be 3x ( at least) uncrowned Mr Olympia.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-fyssgE5sr8/SvaP_4OVfuI/AAAAAAAAAYw/TPJOsI_yzGQ/s320/Nasser+El+Sonbaty.jpg)
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Post by: drkaje on April 11, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
regardless he is, was, and all ways shall be 3x ( at least) uncrowned Mr Olympia.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-fyssgE5sr8/SvaP_4OVfuI/AAAAAAAAAYw/TPJOsI_yzGQ/s320/Nasser+El+Sonbaty.jpg)


So what?
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 11, 2010, 07:41:26 AM
So what?

MELTDOWN !
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Post by: Tito24 on April 11, 2010, 08:16:34 AM
hahahaha now you have two Bsc's and an Msc hahahahahahhhahahahahaha hahahahaha

you have been working out for 7 years and this is what you look like  ???
(http://i44.tinypic.com/v5zq53.jpg)

did you try to lift any weight in that time ?


Maybe Huge ripped doesn't like that huge ripped look...
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Post by: Montague on April 11, 2010, 08:19:25 AM
It's just bad lighting.
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Post by: Hulkotron on April 11, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
I wonder who took this photo of HugeRipped ???
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Post by: boonasty on April 11, 2010, 09:52:12 AM
adonis how do you have all this time to screw around on here?

i do admit that your avatar pic and the way you defend it is the funniest thing about this latest gimmick
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Post by: The Showstoppa on April 11, 2010, 11:21:18 AM
I wonder who took this photo of HugeRipped ???

his college professor, Dr. Percy Alexander Davelsberg III...
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Post by: jtsunami on April 11, 2010, 07:10:45 PM
i never knew coach didn't graduate from college oh geez, not fair to pick fights with him, he only has a high school education.



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Post by: haider on April 11, 2010, 07:12:32 PM
Like anyone could trust the brains of a bunch of gauys idolizing a washed up bodybuilder who hasn't won a damn thing in over ten years.
QMFT. These queers need to stop with this shit.
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Post by: HugeRipped on April 11, 2010, 07:13:15 PM
i never knew coach didn't graduate from college oh geez, not fair to pick fights with him, he only has a high school education.





Typical of a middle aged man with no education beyond the public high school system, he is deeply embarassed by the fact that he is a college drop out so he attempts to decieve others by listing his education as the college he dropped out of, with the major he never earned a degree in.
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Post by: jtsunami on April 11, 2010, 07:25:49 PM
Typical of a middle aged man with no education beyond the public high school system, he is deeply embarassed by the fact that he is a college drop out so he attempts to decieve others by listing his education as the college he dropped out of, with the major he never earned a degree in.

well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 

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Post by: HugeRipped on April 11, 2010, 07:28:46 PM
well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 



He employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his customers into giving him money. Why do you think the majority of his clientele fail horribly at the sport he is "training" them in? It is because he has no actual knowledge of exercise science or human nutrition, he is an illegal drug abusing college drop out. These same principles apply as to why he can only take pictures of himself using camera angle tricks and enhanced shadowing - he cannot even come to terms with his height and body-type.
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Post by: jtsunami on April 11, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
He employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his customers into giving him money. Why do you think the majority of his clientele fail horribly at the sport he is "training" them in? It is because he has no actual knowledge of exercise science or human nutrition, he is an illegal drug abusing college drop out. These same principles apply as to why he can only take pictures of himself using camera angle tricks and enhanced shadowing - he cannot even come to terms with his height and body-type.

I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  

(http://www.blueprintsolution.com/store/fitcommerce/ronnie_coleman_flag.jpg)

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Post by: HugeRipped on April 11, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  

Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.
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Post by: Benny B on April 11, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
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Post by: buffdnet on April 11, 2010, 11:12:14 PM
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Post by: noworries on April 11, 2010, 11:40:32 PM
Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.

Give Goodrum back his mirror
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Post by: HTexan on April 11, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  

(http://www.blueprintsolution.com/store/fitcommerce/ronnie_coleman_flag.jpg)


What makes you say Ronnie doesn't know how to train?
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Post by: gcb on April 12, 2010, 01:20:12 AM
Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.

You're not ripped and that isn't your serratus showing - looks more like the edge of your rib-cage. I'm only going by what I see in your avatar pic.
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Post by: pellius on April 12, 2010, 03:29:33 PM
well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 


Greg Jackson, the most successful MMA trainer (George Saint Pierre) makes no mention of any certifications or college degrees. He may have but, if so, it's worth noting that he doesn't mention it. He was a wrestler and began Jiu-Jitsu which made him interested in becoming a fighter. He started his own MMA school and eventually started training other fighters. There is no school that will give you a formal education on how to be an MMA trainer.
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Post by: noworries on April 12, 2010, 05:06:55 PM
Greg Jackson, the most successful MMA trainer (George Saint Pierre) makes no mention of any certifications or college degrees. He may have but, if so, it's worth noting that he doesn't mention it. He was a wrestler and began Jiu-Jitsu which made him interested in becoming a fighter. He started his own MMA school and eventually started training other fighters. There is no school that will give you a formal education on how to be an MMA trainer.


Exactly.  Chuck Norris didn't have any certifications that I know of and his studios were packed when they first opened.  Does Maranovich who trains BJ have any certificates that he mentions.  How certification did Gus Dmato have with Tyson or Atlas.  Randy Couture charges $1000 an hour for a private lesson.  How many certificates does he have.  Having any kind of certification means NOTHING to real athletes.  All they fucking care about is results!  I'll take catching lessons from johnny Bench any day of the week over any fucking college grad with a certificate.
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Post by: wes on April 12, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(
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Post by: pellius on April 13, 2010, 12:29:06 AM
Exactly.  Chuck Norris didn't have any certifications that I know of and his studios were packed when they first opened.  Does Maranovich who trains BJ have any certificates that he mentions.  How certification did Gus Dmato have with Tyson or Atlas.  Randy Couture charges $1000 an hour for a private lesson.  How many certificates does he have.  Having any kind of certification means NOTHING to real athletes.  All they fucking care about is results!  I'll take catching lessons from johnny Bench any day of the week over any fucking college grad with a certificate.

I was going to mention Marv Marinovich but he use to be a S/C coach for the NFL and I'm sure you need real certs and education creds. But you say it all right here. I don't care if Coach didn't even graduate from high school like Arthur Jones. I'd be honored and grateful to be under the watchful eye of Coach who actually applied/applies his teaching to himself and has real world experience. And A. Jones would laugh at all these certifications and laugh even harder at those with these certs trying to past themselves off as trainers.
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Post by: noworries on April 13, 2010, 01:13:54 AM
I was going to mention Marv Marinovich but he use to be a S/C coach for the NFL and I'm sure you need real certs and education creds. But you say it all right here. I don't care if Coach didn't even graduate from high school like Arthur Jones. I'd be honored and grateful to be under the watchful eye of Coach who actually applied/applies his teaching to himself and has real world experience. And A. Jones would laugh at all these certifications and laugh even harder at those with these certs trying to past themselves off as trainers.


I hate college football but since my mom graduated from SC and our good friends are SC loyals I went to a few games.  Our friends had season tickets.  We had the seats located two rows from the very top.  Behind us sat the Todd Marinovich's parents.  Is Marv his dad.  And one more USC connection (besides OJ). I was at the gym today and saw on the news a bit about the USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett.  Mike and I owned a neon company back in the 80's.  At that time he was head of the boxing at The Forum in Inglewood.  That is how I met him.  Well I had no idea who he was.  I set up a meeting with the owners of a company called Body Glove who I knew.  Me and Mike went to the meeting together.  Well when we get in Robbie's office he immediately said to Mike "Man I can't believe it's you" and went on and on about him.  I step back and he looks at me and I say "who are you" and then Robbie tells me about the Heisman trophy.  All that time we were together I had no idea he won the Heisman Trophy.  He was so small.  Anyway from that point on I started seeing him on TV more and more.  He ended up being the AD at USC and I saw him last in Chicago around 94' or so.  I also intorduced Mike to Chuck Norris omne time when Chuck wanted to go to the Boxing.  So I got us tickets.  We had dinner with Dr. Buss and some others.  THen Mike came in.  At the exact same time when they shook hands they both said "I thought you were taller".  They were the same height.  Anyway that is my USC story (a few of them)

By the way, what did Mike do that he was on the news today.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2010, 02:10:50 AM
I hate college football but since my mom graduated from SC and our good friends are SC loyals I went to a few games.  Our friends had season tickets.  We had the seats located two rows from the very top.  Behind us sat the Todd Marinovich's parents.  Is Marv his dad.  And one more USC connection (besides OJ). I was at the gym today and saw on the news a bit about the USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett.  Mike and I owned a neon company back in the 80's.  At that time he was head of the boxing at The Forum in Inglewood.  That is how I met him.  Well I had no idea who he was.  I set up a meeting with the owners of a company called Body Glove who I knew.  Me and Mike went to the meeting together.  Well when we get in Robbie's office he immediately said to Mike "Man I can't believe it's you" and went on and on about him.  I step back and he looks at me and I say "who are you" and then Robbie tells me about the Heisman trophy.  All that time we were together I had no idea he won the Heisman Trophy.  He was so small.  Anyway from that point on I started seeing him on TV more and more.  He ended up being the AD at USC and I saw him last in Chicago around 94' or so.  I also intorduced Mike to Chuck Norris omne time when Chuck wanted to go to the Boxing.  So I got us tickets.  We had dinner with Dr. Buss and some others.  THen Mike came in.  At the exact same time when they shook hands they both said "I thought you were taller".  They were the same height.  Anyway that is my USC story (a few of them)

By the way, what did Mike do that he was on the news today.

You knew Mike Garret! When I was a kid he was my favorite running back because he was so small. I always rooted for the little guys in football. They have to try harder. That's why I so admired Jack Lambert. At 6'5" 215 lbs he was skinny just like me but he was tough as nails just like ... well, maybe not so much. Anyway Mike was the top running back back when the Kansas City Chiefs were kicking ass with coach Hank Stram. I use to love football back then. Not so much now.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: GigantorX on April 13, 2010, 05:50:14 AM
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(

No shit. And who cares who the owner of the gimmick is either. It's either someone who cuts and pastes all the time or someone who has an axe to grind with Coach or simply someone who is just being a fucking idiot. Or all three.

Ron even posted in one of these threads for fucks sake. HR was funny for about one thread and now it's the same thing over and over again. Put this fuck in Time Out with Falcon (?) and all the other idiots and be done with it. The gimmick is poorly run anyways, it's just far to obvious but idiots on the board keep 'feeding the animals'. The gimmick is old and tired as it's been done before but the posters and the other gimmicks are to stupid to realize this.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: TommyBoy on April 13, 2010, 07:28:17 AM
This guy sure is a fun gimmick. Fun meaning not fun at all. Well, maybe for him.
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: jtsunami on April 13, 2010, 11:12:23 AM
What makes you say Ronnie doesn't know how to train?

I said just cause Ronnie has a lot of muscle, doesn't mean he is qualified to train anybody else, he would probably end up getting them in the hospital actually.

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 11:44:28 AM
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(


Funny thing is that Coach and Keith is taking him too seriously.  Whoever he is...he sure is a champ for getting under people's skin. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 11:51:31 AM

Funny thing is that Coach and Keith is taking him too seriously.  Whoever he is...he sure is a champ for getting under people's skin. 

The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 11:55:32 AM
The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.

How do you feel about my upcoming petition to discontinue insurance coverage for trainers outside of a commercial gym setting that lack a college degree in a related field? I have some big names that I am close friends with (think high end, big name recognition national chain gyms) who will be putting their name down on this. Its only a matter of time before your charade of a fitness business can no longer function as a direct result of your lack of education and you are forced to go back to Bally's where you belong.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 11:59:44 AM
How do you feel about my upcoming petition to discontinue insurance coverage for trainers outside of a commercial gym setting that lack a college degree in a related field? I have some big names that I am close friends with (think high end, big name recognition national chain gyms) who will be putting their name down on this. Its only a matter of time before your charade of a fitness business can no longer function as a direct result of your lack of education and you are forced to go back to Bally's where you belong.

In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: io856 on April 13, 2010, 12:03:41 PM
In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 
from an elementary brain
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 12:05:12 PM
In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 

Yet again this charlatan has been caught attempting to coerce me into answering questions for his latest online certification exam. Go back to college, theres no shame in getting an education at any age.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
Not a question on any test. IO what ever dude.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 12:11:39 PM
Its ok IO if you don't know the answer.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 12:12:10 PM
Not a question on any test. IO what ever dude.


I have not used the words "whatever" or "dude" in nearly a decade. I ceased childish ramblings once I began pursuing knowledge at a university level and in becoming a successful and educated adult I found no need for such sub-linguistics. Even in your very vernacular, your lack of education has been exposed, yet again.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 12:13:50 PM
The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.


If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 12:17:46 PM

If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules

Both of you are fitness industry scam artists. Neither of you have attended an accredited college yet you both award yourself with false credentials backed by an entirely online education. Why do you even bother with the "CSN MFT" after your name? Do you hope that someone will mistake those as collegiate level credentials?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 12:48:52 PM
Both of you are fitness industry scam artists. Neither of you have attended an accredited college yet you both award yourself with false credentials backed by an entirely online education. Why do you even bother with the "CSN MFT" after your name? Do you hope that someone will mistake those as collegiate level credentials?

Actually I did attend college.  I simply didn't waste my time studying for a degree in Exercise Science ala "glorified personal trainer".  My field is in engineering but now due to the economy and layoffs, I turned my side gig into a career

While I eventually got a Diploma in Fitness & Exercise from Ashworth College, the cool fact is that I spent a measly 30 dollars for the personal trainer certification from the AMFPT back in 2001 starting out and today I have built a great business where I make my own hours and I have plenty of satisfied clients and customers.

Ben & Jerry's founders took a $15 mail order course in making ice cream and they're doing pretty well last time I heard.... ;D

I will say that you are a very amusing specimen but seriously you need your head checked....BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  



Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 12:51:50 PM
Actually I did attend college.  I simply didn't waste my time studying for a degree in Exercise Science ala "glorified personal trainer".  My field is in engineering but now due to the economy and layoffs, I turned my side gig into a career

While I eventually got a Diploma in Fitness & Exercise from Ashworth College, the cool fact is that I spent a measly 30 dollars for the personal trainer certification from the AMFPT back in 2001 starting out and today I have built a great business where I make my own hours and I have plenty of satisfied clients and customers.

Ben & Jerry's founders took a $15 mail order course in making ice cream and they're doing pretty well last time I heard.... ;D

I will say that you are a very amusing specimen but seriously you need your head checked....BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  





Translation: you have no job because you attended a subpar university, majored in a subpar field and performed poorly in your post-graduate job leading to a lay off. Now you claim to be a fitness industry professional with online certifications. Do not try to justify your failures to someone that has dedicated his life to becoming one of the best and most knowledgeable trainers in the industry.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 12:57:17 PM
Translation: you have no job because you attended a subpar university, majored in a subpar field and performed poorly in your post-graduate job leading to a lay off. Now you claim to be a fitness industry professional with online certifications. Do not try to justify your failures to someone that has dedicated his life to becoming one of the best and most knowledgeable trainers in the industry.

Chuckle......son I don't even know who you are and I don't think anyone can (or should) take you seriously.        You won't even give out your real name or school that you studied at so unless you can do that, anything you say isn't worth anything.  ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: lvtolft on April 13, 2010, 02:55:27 PM
I am really hoping this is one big "joke".
While education and certifications are important, this field is much more complicated than that.
While schooling taught me some basic physiology and assessment methods, the majority of experience in training clients and adapting my training came from experience in the field.

Joe has got some major credentials when it comes to experience and also shows it with his physique (not as much now  ;D).
To argue he is not successful with his clients would be an irresponsible statement.
From most of his threads and comments, you can see he is heavily interested in his field and is educating himself on a regular basis.

To tell you the truth, many CE's you earn for your certification are a joke and don't help you at all.  I would much rather attend college football camps and talk with other strength and conditioning coaches about what works and what doesn't than answer a 50 question multiple choice test.

There are many irresponsible trainers out there.  You sound more like one than Joe does.
 :P
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: GigantorX on April 13, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
Just another worthless gimmick performing an act that has been done before countless times by countless gimmicks.

Ron, where are you on this?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 03:14:52 PM

If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules

Never once called you out on your training methods nor have I ever said you were unqualified to be a trainer but you did, you even wrote a stupid little comment on one of my youtube videos, I left it there for posterity. . This is the article you're referring to...

http://mpftrainingsystems.com/
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 03:37:00 PM
Never once called you out on your training methods nor have I ever said you were unqualified to be a trainer but you did, you even wrote a stupid little comment on one of my youtube videos, I left it there for posterity. . This is the article you're referring to...

http://mpftrainingsystems.com/


You posted a thread with that article from EliteFTS and in the title you placed..."This is for Vince Goodrum and others last month here on Getbig".

While I don't care what no name trolls say about me, I was disappointed that you didn't show me any professional courtesy.  And since you didn't, I decided to mock your youtube video.  At least I didn't hide behind any fake identity.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 03:43:48 PM

You posted a thread with that article from EliteFTS and in the title you placed..."This is for Vince Goodrum and others last month here on Getbig".

While I don't care what no name trolls say about me, I was disappointed that you didn't show me any professional courtesy.  And since you didn't, I decided to mock your youtube video.  At least I didn't hide behind any fake identity.

Neither did I. Nor do I. Like some of the people on here I don't hide and make my identity fully known. Didn't you say just a few days ago that you gave someone your account for another board and they were"Owning" people there? What was that all about Vince?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: GigantorX on April 13, 2010, 04:06:13 PM
So, a worthless gimmick can come on Getbig and throw around baseless accusations, slander and insults with the direct and stated attempt to discredit and hurt the business of an actual GetBig member with nary a peep from the "Top Guys"?

But someone dares to start a thread questioning certain supplement companies, the workers of the "industry" and such, and they are quickly shown the door?

Is this how this works now?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
Neither did I. Nor do I. Like some of the people on here I don't hide and make my identity fully known. Didn't you say just a few days ago that you gave someone your account for another board and they were"Owning" people there? What was that all about Vince?


That was for Anabolic Society because I didn't wish to waste my time with them.

The thing is that I originally did training as a side gig for some extra money so when I got laid off in 2007, I did take the job more seriously.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Hulkotron on April 13, 2010, 04:12:33 PM
Vince what was your previous job?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2010, 05:41:26 PM


Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: jtsunami on April 13, 2010, 05:45:11 PM


Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.

X2!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: lvtolft on April 13, 2010, 06:23:36 PM


Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.
I do agree that trainers should have a degree in order to train.  I would not call the education as hard as rocket science.  Not for me, anyway.
The problem with the industry is that most gyms do not pay trainers for their additional time in the gym and require them to be more of a sales person than an educated trainer.  It is quite frustrating to see someone with a masters degree getting paid $9/hour for a free consult.  Most people with an advanced degree will go into Exercise Physiology, Rehab, Teaching, or some other work so that they can have a consistent income.
Until that changes, which I don't think it will.  You will have the majority of trainers be under qualified sales people.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 06:44:11 PM
Vince what was your previous job?

Systems Engineer for Ikon, then I worked at Alltel as a Universal Rep.  Can't discuss what I did at Lockheed
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 13, 2010, 06:52:30 PM
Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: mwbbuilder on April 13, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
That's a lot of education to be struggling personal trainer.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: jtsunami on April 13, 2010, 07:41:25 PM
Systems Engineer for Ikon, then I worked at Alltel as a Universal Rep.  Can't discuss what I did at Lockheed

did you ever see TA at Lockheed?

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HugeRipped on April 13, 2010, 08:26:43 PM
Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.



Similar to "The Coach" he is a fitness industry con man who employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his potential client demographic into handing him money for sub-par health and fitness guidance. While "The Coach" attempts to make people believe that he graduated college with a degree, "Vince G" attempts to make people believe that he has actual credentials by putting two acronyms after his name. Just as I exposed "The Coach" as the uneducated fraud that he is, any small amount of research will uncover the truth in that "Vince G" does not possess a single collegiate level qualification in the fitness field nor does he possess a single certification that is nationally accredited or even requires a physical test.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 08:37:28 PM
Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.



Yes, I do have a university degree you old piece of shit.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 08:45:48 PM
Similar to "The Coach" he is a fitness industry con man who employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his potential client demographic into handing him money for sub-par health and fitness guidance. While "The Coach" attempts to make people believe that he graduated college with a degree, "Vince G" attempts to make people believe that he has actual credentials by putting two acronyms after his name. Just as I exposed "The Coach" as the uneducated fraud that he is, any small amount of research will uncover the truth in that "Vince G" does not possess a single collegiate level qualification in the fitness field nor does he possess a single certification that is nationally accredited or even requires a physical test.

Being a personal trainer isn't some specialized job like a nurse, engineer, or a doctor.  All you need is a certification and some PT insurance and that's it.

As long as you can perform the job properly, no one is going to give a shit about what hangs on the wall.  I can assure you that 99% of the personal trainers working don't have a degree and quite frankly they don't need one. 

Of course, I do have a collegiate level education in fitness and exercise that's been completed.  But it doesn't change much of anything.  The job is still the same.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 13, 2010, 08:47:48 PM
did you ever see TA at Lockheed?



Nope, didn't see anyone walking around with a gravity suit on.... ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 13, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Systems Engineer for Ikon, then I worked at Alltel as a Universal Rep.  Can't discuss what I did at Lockheed

You must have been a great asset for them.  You got fired from every job you have had.  That speaks volumes of what you are worth,  Since when has cleaning clogged toilets a big secret.  You worked in janitorial at Lockheed and you make it sound important.  Jesus Christ Goodrum go kill yourself.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 13, 2010, 10:43:49 PM


Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.

That's absurd Vince. While I completely understand how important education is and I'm all for it, saying people that are in the industry without a degree are "charlatans", "meatheads" and 'knuckleheads" as you so pompously put it is complete and utter bullshit. While you might earn the MINIMUM requirements to obtain that degree, the real learning doesn't start until you start applying that to practical application. Even though I came short of my degree, I made sure I made up for it by seeking out and studying under the best S&C coaches, physical therapists and nutritionists in the country, I spend a MINIMUM of $10k per year on continuing education in the way of mentorships, seminars and conventions. I spend two weeks per year with the best S&C coaches in the country on the East Coast and last year I spent most of pre-season with the S&C coach working with the USC Trojans Football team. Vince, I've been doing that for AT LEAST the last 10 years. Even though I didn't finish my degree, I would say I'm more that educated and qualified to train athletes, give advice as well as be a yearly speaker in my field of training. Having a "degree" doesn't make you an "expert" Vince. Having a "degree" with no practical experience makes you an apprentice.

Now, that being said..don't you train on machines?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 12:32:41 AM
The way Goodrum describes the requirements for a personal trainer is typical of muscleheads who think it is an easy job. While most bodybuilders can do the job ok that doesn't make them qualified. When members ask about injuries they have little or no idea what to advise them because that isn't something you learn from experience. Let us use the medical profession as a comparison and ask how many here would consult a person with no university degrees in medicine? Even nurses require a degree in most hospitals so things are improving. Those who put down education usually have not attended university so have no clue what is involved. It is one thing to think you know something and quite another to have studied the latest research and discussed this with professors.

That someone goes to seminars and conventions is well and good but it isn't a substitute for a proper education. Of course keep trying to learn but get a university degree in your area and that is a good standard. Personal trainers, gym instructors and fitness leaders come with a variety of qualifications. Some have degrees but that is rare. Many have technology diplomas and that is a reasonable standard. Those who take the 16 or 20 week course or one doing home study can't be called properly qualified anything.

The question we can ask is how do we know something? Well, if you base your test on experience then you have no way of substantiating your theories and ideas. The only satisfactory way of knowing something for sure is through rigorous experiments and studies. In the absence of such studies all manner of things are believed and followed by the fitness flotsam who consider themselves experts but are far from being that.

If you have enough experience you might dare toss all those silly free weights in the ocean! Dumbell is as dumbell uses.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 12:34:44 AM
Yes, I do have a university degree you old piece of shit.

Please show us a photocopy of your degree Mr Goodrum. You are the guy demanding that others tell us where they graduated from. What was your major and when did you complete your degree? I hope this isn't the mail order PhD you 'got' a couple of years ago!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: io856 on April 14, 2010, 01:18:21 AM
Please show us a photocopy of your degree Mr Goodrum. You are the guy demanding that others tell us where they graduated from. What was your major and when did you complete your degree? I hope this isn't the mail order PhD you 'got' a couple of years ago!
hahahaha jesus christ a mail order PhD! What will the circus known as Vince Goodrum come up with next
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 06:42:47 AM
Vince, are you trying to say that just because someone has a degree they can get better results from their client than someone who does not have a degree? Just trying to clarify here.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 06:49:02 AM
hahahaha jesus christ a mail order PhD! What will the circus known as Vince Goodrum come up with next

And you believe what he says...... ::)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 07:18:38 AM
And you believe what he says...... ::)

Of course he does.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 07:49:53 AM
The way Goodrum describes the requirements for a personal trainer is typical of muscleheads who think it is an easy job. While most bodybuilders can do the job ok that doesn't make them qualified. When members ask about injuries they have little or no idea what to advise them because that isn't something you learn from experience. Let us use the medical profession as a comparison and ask how many here would consult a person with no university degrees in medicine? Even nurses require a degree in most hospitals so things are improving. Those who put down education usually have not attended university so have no clue what is involved. It is one thing to think you know something and quite another to have studied the latest research and discussed this with professors.

That someone goes to seminars and conventions is well and good but it isn't a substitute for a proper education. Of course keep trying to learn but get a university degree in your area and that is a good standard. Personal trainers, gym instructors and fitness leaders come with a variety of qualifications. Some have degrees but that is rare. Many have technology diplomas and that is a reasonable standard. Those who take the 16 or 20 week course or one doing home study can't be called properly qualified anything.

The question we can ask is how do we know something? Well, if you base your test on experience then you have no way of substantiating your theories and ideas. The only satisfactory way of knowing something for sure is through rigorous experiments and studies. In the absence of such studies all manner of things are believed and followed by the fitness flotsam who consider themselves experts but are far from being that.

If you have enough experience you might dare toss all those silly free weights in the ocean! Dumbell is as dumbell uses.


If a person has an injury, they should go see a doctor.  Personal Trainers cannot give out medical advice.  They can only perform basic first aid if they are certified which they should be anyway to begin with and then refer them to a doctor.   

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 14, 2010, 07:57:24 AM

If a person has an injury, they should go see a doctor.  Personal Trainers cannot give out medical advice.  They can only perform basic first aid if they are certified which they should be anyway to begin with and then refer them to a doctor.   



I'm sure your 'colleagues' appreciate the business.  ::)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 08:15:42 AM

If a person has an injury, they should go see a doctor.  Personal Trainers cannot give out medical advice.  They can only perform basic first aid if they are certified which they should be anyway to begin with and then refer them to a doctor.



Just shows your lack of experience, Melvin. People present at gyms with various injuries they have had previously or have at the moment and want to know how to proceed. What would you tell them? Well, a person trained in rehab as part of an exercise science program would know what to say and do. You obviously have no clue at all but are sensible enough to refer them to doctors. That isn't the kind of injury I am talking about. I mean the kind that bother people but don't cripple or sideline them. Nagging pains and sore areas.

So, Melvin, where did you graduate from? I am sure you would have listed it on Facebook had you obtained a university degree.  
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 14, 2010, 08:29:21 AM
Just shows your lack of experience, Melvin. People present at gyms with various injuries they have had previously or have at the moment and want to know how to proceed. What would you tell them? Well, a person trained in rehab as part of an exercise science program would know what to say and do. You obviously have no clue at all but are sensible enough to refer them to doctors. That isn't the kind of injury I am talking about. I mean the kind that bother people but don't cripple or sideline them. Nagging pains and sore areas.

So, Melvin, where did you graduate from? I am sure you would have listed it on Facebook had you obtained a university degree.  

He does NOT have a REAL degree from a REAL University.  He twists shit around so much to make himself look good it is unreal.  Like I have always said he tries to cut corners to acheive things and they have all backfired.  There is a reason why he lives where he does.  Not only because the cost of living is so low so the $2000 a month he gross's allows him to live like a king in his trailer but it allows him to bullshit his way through the population of his village.  No way ever could he last in a big city.  He would be living in the streets in less than a month.  He can bullshit his way through life as long as he stays in his trailer just outside Bumfuck, North Carolina.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 08:50:06 AM
Just shows your lack of experience, Melvin. People present at gyms with various injuries they have had previously or have at the moment and want to know how to proceed. What would you tell them? Well, a person trained in rehab as part of an exercise science program would know what to say and do. You obviously have no clue at all but are sensible enough to refer them to doctors. That isn't the kind of injury I am talking about. I mean the kind that bother people but don't cripple or sideline them. Nagging pains and sore areas.

So, Melvin, where did you graduate from? I am sure you would have listed it on Facebook had you obtained a university degree.  

Thats horseshit Vince. Maybe in your country, but not in this country. Having a degree in exercise science does not give you the authority to diagnose and you can't really treat anyone unless you can properly identify the problem and only a qualified doctor can do that and then go to a physical therapist if necessary, in my case dealing with athletes, most of the time an Ortho. Thats like sending a cardiac patient to a GP.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 14, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
Vince, are you trying to say that just because someone has a degree they can get better results from their client than someone who does not have a degree? Just trying to clarify here.
no, he is saying more people want to train with trainers with a degree, and lying scumbags that claim to have degrees to get clients are losers.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 03:44:06 PM
1. Like most libs, you have no clue and lie yourself.
2. Numbnuts...I never claimed to have degree.

You're as fucking clueless as your hero coward "hugeripped" and are just as much of a coward.

Don't hate becuase you have no clue on train. But I'm always willing help. BTW, I know who you are.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 14, 2010, 03:48:04 PM
1. Like most libs, you have no clue and lie yourself.
2. Numbnuts...I never claimed to have degree.

You're as fucking clueless as your hero coward "hugeripped" and are just as much of a coward.

Don't hate becuase you have no clue on train. But I'm always willing help. BTW, I know who you are.
lol numbnuts? you like the nuts on soapy studs. :D
stop stalking me, im not soapy :-\


Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 04:02:42 PM
People come to me with training problems all the time. For example, what do you tell someone who says they have sore knees and want to train legs? What about sore elbows and triceps training? There are some exercises that can be dangerous if done with heavy resistances or over the years. Even running can lead to problems. Someone trained in exercise science with a MSc would be able to offer better help because they know more about the human body and what resistance training can do. Those of us with a lot of experience can gain insights into training so that we can assist those with injuries and soreness. We can tell people what to avoid so that they don't get injured. Effective gym instructors correct members all the time. It is amazing how many people do things wrong in gyms

Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding I know there is a vast amount of things to learn in the body and in the gym. Goodrum thinks he is knowledgeable after 9 years bodybuilding or whatever it is he does. Coach insists that he gets his information from other trainers and at conventions, etc. That is not a substitute for a proper degree in exercise science. Please understand that there are many areas of specialty in this field. I doubt that hypertrophy is something one can study through courses but surely research can be done in the area. Matter of fact, there isn't enough research done re bodybuilding and that is why so many still argue about it even today.  

 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 14, 2010, 04:12:20 PM
Goodrum gives advice on several areas when someone consults him for $70 an hour and that he is an expert in.  Examples of questions he can answer with expertise include;

1. How do I make that burning feeling go away in my ass
2. How can control the amount of cum dripping out of my mouth while eating KFC
3. Should I keep my eyes closed during a bukake session
4. Is it true about not wiping my ass makes anal sex better. 
5. If I put more useless letters behind my name I can charge more money and still provide no knowledge
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Jason K on April 14, 2010, 04:17:02 PM
If you have an IFBB Pro card you can train anyone and make as much money as you want.Imagine asking Milos how he became a Guru.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
People come to me with training problems all the time. For example, what do you tell someone who says they have sore knees and want to train legs? What about sore elbows and triceps training? There are some exercises that can be dangerous if done with heavy resistances or over the years. Even running can lead to problems. Someone trained in exercise science with a MSc would be able to offer better help because they know more about the human body and what resistance training can do. Those of us with a lot of experience can gain insights into training so that we can assist those with injuries and soreness. We can tell people what to avoid so that they don't get injured. Effective gym instructors correct members all the time. It is amazing how many people do things wrong in gyms

Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding I know there is a vast amount of things to learn in the body and in the gym. Goodrum thinks he is knowledgeable after 9 years bodybuilding or whatever it is he does. Coach insists that he gets his information from other trainers and at conventions, etc. That is not a substitute for a proper degree in exercise science. Please understand that there are many areas of specialty in this field. I doubt that hypertrophy is something one can study through courses but surely research can be done in the area. Matter of fact, there isn't enough research done re bodybuilding and that is why so many still argue about it even today.  

 

1. So basically what you're saying is because I don't have piece of paper from the 1930's that says "I have a Masters in Exercise Science" I'm not qualified to put together an exercise selection to help my athletes even though I have 30+ years of experience and mentored some of the best S&C coaches in the country? (that have degrees) Let me ask you Vince, after one finally gets his/her degree, how do you gain experience? Surely Vince you can't cram 30 years of experience into a 4 year degree. Curious to where you gained your knowledge? I can tell you when I'm not working I spend at least an hour or two PER DAY 6-7 days per week doing research on EVERYTHING that pertains to training. You?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 05:18:38 PM
BTW, which mod deleted my last post?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 05:52:27 PM
1. So basically what you're saying is because I don't have piece of paper from the 1930's that says "I have a Masters in Exercise Science" I'm not qualified to put together an exercise selection to help my athletes even though I have 30+ years of experience and mentored some of the best S&C coaches in the country? (that have degrees) Let me ask you Vince, after one finally gets his/her degree, how do you gain experience? Surely Vince you can't cram 30 years of experience into a 4 year degree. Curious to where you gained your knowledge? I can tell you when I'm not working I spend at least an hour or two PER DAY 6-7 days per week doing research on EVERYTHING that pertains to training. You?

You can't comprehend what I am posting so naturally interpret what I say as a personal attack on you. Nope, I am talking about knowing things. You defer to experience. That simply isn't good enough. How do you know you are right? You don't know and can't know. You need independent, peer reviewed, scientific research to feel confident about theories and beliefs. It is always possible that our theories are mistaken but in the case of many who work in gyms they have no way of establishing what is truth and what conjecture. Experience is not a sufficient test for the truth of theories relating to fitness and bodybuilding.  

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 05:59:26 PM
80-90% of my training is based on science and yes, through peer reviewed studies. Do you just think I throw a routine together and HOPE it works. Everything I do is based on a system.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: TrueGrit on April 14, 2010, 06:09:44 PM
Goodrum gives advice on several areas when someone consults him for $70 an hour and that he is an expert in.  Examples of questions he can answer with expertise include;

1. How do I make that burning feeling go away in my ass
2. How can control the amount of cum dripping out of my mouth while eating KFC
3. Should I keep my eyes closed during a bukake session
4. Is it true about not wiping my ass makes anal sex better. 
5. If I put more useless letters behind my name I can charge more money and still provide no knowledge

LOL... Your battles with Vince/Melvin provide a fair few gems along the way..

Melvin, your turn..
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 06:13:12 PM
Goodrum gives advice on several areas when someone consults him for $70 an hour and that he is an expert in.  Examples of questions he can answer with expertise include;

1. How do I make that burning feeling go away in my ass
2. How can control the amount of cum dripping out of my mouth while eating KFC
3. Should I keep my eyes closed during a bukake session
4. Is it true about not wiping my ass makes anal sex better.  
5. If I put more useless letters behind my name I can charge more money and still provide no knowledge


Talk all you want but I can pay my bills while you can't pay back people your ripped off.  On top of that...you're fat.  

Now I got better things to do than deal with a blob like you.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 06:20:22 PM
80-90% of my training is based on science and yes, through peer reviewed studies. Do you just think I throw a routine together and HOPE it works. Everything I do is based on a system.

It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 06:22:36 PM
Thats horseshit Vince. Maybe in your country, but not in this country. Having a degree in exercise science does not give you the authority to diagnose and you can't really treat anyone unless you can properly identify the problem and only a qualified doctor can do that and then go to a physical therapist if necessary, in my case dealing with athletes, most of the time an Ortho. Thats like sending a cardiac patient to a GP.


Thanks, I was just about to explain that to him along with the fact that if I gave medical advice then I would most likely end up getting sued
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 06:23:23 PM
Just shows your lack of experience, Melvin. People present at gyms with various injuries they have had previously or have at the moment and want to know how to proceed. What would you tell them? Well, a person trained in rehab as part of an exercise science program would know what to say and do. You obviously have no clue at all but are sensible enough to refer them to doctors. That isn't the kind of injury I am talking about. I mean the kind that bother people but don't cripple or sideline them. Nagging pains and sore areas.

So, Melvin, where did you graduate from? I am sure you would have listed it on Facebook had you obtained a university degree.  
::)

Read the above post you moron...
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 06:24:40 PM
It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?

You have to have some commonsense when it come to ANYTHING Vince. We'll just chalk up that other 10-20% to commonsense.


Thought you might find this interesting, but then again.....


Paul Chek
Despite an education that never went beyond earning a high school diploma,
Paul Chek has capitalized on his passion for lifelong learning and his love of teaching to become one of the most influential leaders in mainstream fitness. Although he certainly did not invent the Swiss ball, through his seminars and writings Chek must be acknowledged as the individual who got us to take corrective training seriously and got countless personal trainers to take an interest in peer-review research.

Think about it – a decade ago the concept of “core” and “corrective” training did not exist, and now it’s common terminology among everyone from professional strength coaches to housewives to fitness bunnies to senior citizens. Chek’s love of knowledge has led to a successful seminar and certification business that has expanded worldwide and created a loyal base of fans who are universally referred to as “Chekies.” Now you can go into any general public gym around the World without finding at least one Swiss Ball.

I first met Paul in 1994 when I visited his facility in La Jolla, California, to learn firsthand about his techniques for assessing posture and developing the abdominals, and about his comprehensive approach to dealing with all the factors associated with lower back pain. I shared many of his ideas in my first book, The Poliquin Principles.

True, there are now core and functional training certifications (and even college-level courses) that are even more extensive and science-based than the ones offered by this innovative (and often controversial) trainer and teacher – but the fact is that all of them owe a debt of gratitude to Paul Chek.

Many of you may challenge my selections, but I truly believe that if you do your own diligent research, these three men will rate high on your own list of the most influential people in the personal training industry.

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 06:24:48 PM

Talk all you want but I can pay my bills while you can't pay back people your ripped off.  On top of that...you're fat.  

Now I got better things to do than deal with a blob like you.


Melvin, a professional gym instructor would never put someone down for their appearance. You resort to this tactic thinking you are showing Keith and are better than him. All it does is show you can be a nasty person when criticized. I don't agree with everything Keith says about you but you do bullshit and exaggerate your qualifications and knowledge.  
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Melvin, a professional gym instructor would never put someone down for their appearance. You resort to this tactic thinking you are showing Keith and are better than him. All it does is show you can be a nasty person when criticized. I don't agree with everything Keith says about you but you do bullshit and exaggerate your qualifications and knowledge.  


My credentials are clearly listed on my website and I have a number of references as well which is the main factor in getting new clients. 

And quite frankly, I'll put anyone insulting me in their rightful place including you and Keith.  Has nothing to do with my profession and you're being a big hypocrite for even making that suggestion
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 06:36:28 PM
You have to have some commonsense when it come to ANYTHING Vince. We'll just chalk up that other 10-20% on commonsense.

I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.  
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 14, 2010, 07:08:39 PM
I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.  


I have to disagree, commonsense has to be applied in almost every aspect of life. There are a lot theories that contradict each other, if there were not we would have nothing to debate about. One of the forums I frequent is almost all well regarded S&C coaches, physical therapists Dr's. If a subject comes up regarding protocols for training, rehab or what ever, you might have 10 different answers that agree with one another and 10 different answers that disagree with one another. In a situation like that like you have to use commonsense based on the knowledge you've learned and apply it to practical application.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Montague on April 14, 2010, 07:12:40 PM
Common sense is needed for application of knowledge.
The classroom doesn't prepare you for everything you'll ever encounter.
Sensibility is usually needed to reason things out using what you know.


Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Montague on April 14, 2010, 07:19:15 PM
I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.  



There’s more than one way/place to obtain an education.
Even those learned individuals in academies don’t hold ALL the answers.
I’ve even stumped my one physiology professors with a question that I got answered (and verified) on this board. And he's a Ph.D!

That Coach has made it this far indicates that he is well beyond a cookie cutter online certification buyer.
I don’t know how much any kind of formal education would improve on the one he’s acquired.

Also, if Coach does indeed conduct continual research as he claims, then that also gives him an advantage over some of the academic experts – many of who fail to stay current with evolving information.
Too many "professors" neglect the latest research & discoveries, rendering their knowledge base dated.
They basically stop learning – stopping the very thing that made them superior in the first place.

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 14, 2010, 08:25:41 PM
It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?
education ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 14, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.  



Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 14, 2010, 09:16:19 PM

Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par
Says the pot.....
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 14, 2010, 09:59:48 PM

Thanks, I was just about to explain that to him along with the fact that if I gave medical advice then I would most likely end up getting sued

People like you don't get sued,  You have NOTHING anyone wants.  Why would you get sued.

Quote
Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par

hahaha you would get laughed out of court you lowlife pathetic moron.  Goodrum you got to see the website dedicated to you,  It is going to be Epic.  Anyone who Googles your name will be sent to the site.  You should see how many people are contributing. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 14, 2010, 10:31:59 PM
Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 15, 2010, 11:44:14 AM
People like you don't get sued,  You have NOTHING anyone wants.  Why would you get sued.

hahaha you would get laughed out of court you lowlife pathetic moron.  Goodrum you got to see the website dedicated to you,  It is going to be Epic.  Anyone who Googles your name will be sent to the site.  You should see how many people are contributing. 


Dedicating a site to me is only another sign that I'm getting free rent to stay in your head..... ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 15, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
I bet Vince G can still dunk a basketball.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: dr.chimps on April 15, 2010, 11:59:55 AM
I bet Vince G can still dunk a basketball.
I'm guessing with those arms a vertical isn't necessary.   :o
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 15, 2010, 12:13:12 PM
Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.


No, I simply have observed you and come to the conclusion that you are distraught over not doing anything in the sport that you dedicated yourself to and that you're too old to do anything about it.


Nowhere in the history of bodybuilding will your name come up Basile or your win at the 1970 Mr Canada because it wasn't much. 

Arnold, Zane, Scott, Franco, Draper, Lee Brown, Ken Waller...they are some of the bodybuilders from the 60's and 70's that are talked about.  There is no publications whatsoever that I know of in which your name was ever mentioned or your pictures shown. 

Whine all you like but the fact is that you most likely won't be a footnote in history.  All of those machine you built and no one will ever know you built them.


If you want my advice Basile, I would suggest writing a book or biography about yourself so you're not forgotten instead of wasting time on Getbig because quite frankly....you don't have much time to dick around since you're over 70 years old. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Fatpanda on April 15, 2010, 12:22:45 PM
Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.

vince do you regret cheating your peers out of the mr canada comp by taking dbol while they were natural ?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 15, 2010, 01:10:51 PM
I'm guessing with those arms a vertical isn't necessary.   :o

 ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: drkaje on April 15, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
I bet HR's degree lets him count reps in multiples of two!!!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: jtsunami on April 15, 2010, 05:29:59 PM

There’s more than one way/place to obtain an education.
Even those learned individuals in academies don’t hold ALL the answers.
I’ve even stumped my one physiology professors with a question that I got answered (and verified) on this board. And he's a Ph.D!

That Coach has made it this far indicates that he is well beyond a cookie cutter online certification buyer.
I don’t know how much any kind of formal education would improve on the one he’s acquired.

Also, if Coach does indeed conduct continual research as he claims, then that also gives him an advantage over some of the academic experts – many of who fail to stay current with evolving information.
Too many "professors" neglect the latest research & discoveries, rendering their knowledge base dated.
They basically stop learning – stopping the very thing that made them superior in the first place.



OH WOW you are special!!  That must mean you are smarter than him, or maybe you just asked such a stupid outlandish question he was caught off guard.  Those who look down upon higher eduction are those who never attempted or dropped out of college.

jt
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2010, 06:17:40 PM
OH WOW you are special!!  That must mean you are smarter than him, or maybe you just asked such a stupid outlandish question he was caught off guard.  Those who look down upon higher eduction are those who never attempted or dropped out of college.

jt

Dude, you've made it clear that you're desire in life is to basically sponge of people that are more fortunate that you, so why do you even care about higher education?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: jtsunami on April 15, 2010, 07:18:57 PM
Dude, you've made it clear that you're desire in life is to basically sponge of people that are more fortunate that you, so why do you even care about higher education?

no i haven't not sure what you are talking about.  I believe the more fortunate should pay more because they are obligated to give back to society what society gave them so other people have the chances that they do.  The rich all seem to think they are all self made, when in fact a very small portion are self made, most are born into wealth and born with a silver spoon in their mouths. 

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 15, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
no i haven't not sure what you are talking about.  I believe the more fortunate should pay more because they are obligated to give back to society what society gave them so other people have the chances that they do.  The rich all seem to think they are all self made, when in fact a very small portion are self made, most are born into wealth and born with a silver spoon in their mouths. 



You don't f**king get it do you? The rich, especially the self-made are not "obligated" to do any such thing, where you get this shit from? And about "having the same chances that they do"? They do have the same chances, some just have to work a little harder to get there than others, but self-driven people DO get there. It's the lazy opportunists that want the hand out.   
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 16, 2010, 12:13:10 AM
no i haven't not sure what you are talking about.  I believe the more fortunate should pay more because they are obligated to give back to society what society gave them so other people have the chances that they do.  The rich all seem to think they are all self made, when in fact a very small portion are self made, most are born into wealth and born with a silver spoon in their mouths. 


Bah bah bah.  My parents are self made. They worked hard to get would the are. A flat tax is the only real option. Clean up the discount laws. Keep the sales tax. Make pot legal and tax the shit out of it. Tax junk food and soda. 
 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: buffdnet on April 16, 2010, 01:50:59 AM
Quote
I'll put anyone insulting me in their rightful place including you and Keith.
oh really!. Lets test the theory
you goodrum are a practicing homosexual degenerate negro.
you goodrum help spread aids by engaging in dangerous sick and perverted sex acts
you goodrum being a homosexual rank in the food chain right there with murderers,
rapists and pedos which makes you less than a human let alone a man

put me in my rightful place homo.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 16, 2010, 04:32:57 AM
Can't believe I'm about to defend Melvin Goodrum.  ::)

you goodrum being a homosexual rank in the food chain right there with murderers,
rapists and pedos

You can't be serious.  Not saying you have to like fags but not even a shoe buckle Puritan would equate consenting buttsex with murder.

you goodrum help spread aids by engaging in dangerous sick and perverted sex acts

More bullshit.  Goodrum is too ugly to get anyone into bed, m or f.  If the boyfriend didn't have wonky vision he wouldn't get any there either.

you goodrum are a practicing homosexual degenerate negro.

Off the mark again.  In a survey of dirt poor practicing homosexual degenerate negros, 99% of the respondants said, "At least I'm not Goodrum."
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: erokyrwrld on April 16, 2010, 05:10:20 AM
you goodrum help spread aids by engaging in dangerous sick and perverted sex acts

The basis for this statement is flawed.  While in the US the HIV virus may have been spread primarily in the gay community in its early days, statistics show that its prevalance is just as high in heterosexuals now.  Further, in the countries with the highest rates of HIV infection, the vast majority are heterosexual.  HIV does not discriminate, and the fact that you do is simply a tetstament to the size of your brain. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Montague on April 16, 2010, 05:50:03 AM
Bah bah bah.  My parents are self made. They worked hard to get would the are. A flat tax is the only real option. Clean up the discount laws. Keep the sales tax. Make pot legal and tax the shit out of it. Tax junk food and soda.



I agree with this.
They’ve been doing studies for years to determine the effectiveness of replacing income tax with a flat rate sales tax.

Nobody can get around a sales tax.
No loopholes for certain income brackets.
All of our nice illegal aliens would have to pay it.
And it’s relative – if you make more, you can buy more, which means you’ll pay more total money in taxes, but it’s the same percentage as everyone else. Tell me how that’s not fair.

And, I’m with you on legalizing prostitution and pot.
Pot has proven medical benefits and would be a great source of tax revenue.
Prostitution would also generate revenue as well as create jobs - and our new “FREE” healthcare will ensure that all tricks get regular checkups for STD treatment & prevention.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 16, 2010, 06:34:53 AM


I agree with this.
They’ve been doing studies for years to determine the effectiveness of replacing income tax with a flat rate sales tax.

Nobody can get around a sales tax.
No loopholes for certain income brackets.
All of our nice illegal aliens would have to pay it.
And it’s relative – if you make more, you can buy more, which means you’ll pay more total money in taxes, but it’s the same percentage as everyone else. Tell me how that’s not fair.

And, I’m with you on legalizing prostitution and pot.
Pot has proven medical benefits and would be a great source of tax revenue.
Prostitution would also generate revenue as well as create jobs - and our new “FREE” healthcare will ensure that all tricks get regular checkups for STD treatment & prevention.

yeah, Mexicans pay sales tax, but they make a manifesto and get all the money the paid back.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: buffdnet on April 16, 2010, 06:40:24 AM
Can't believe I'm about to defend Melvin Goodrum.  ::)

You can't be serious.  Not saying you have to like fags but not even a shoe buckle Puritan would equate consenting buttsex with murder.
 unprotected sex in particular let alone the sick perverted variety. gay sex in wrong in my book.
melvin has never defended himself on this issue. safe to assume he participates in unprotected gay sex.
same with aids testing.  yes uprotected buttsex between has many times equalled one killing the other due
to the spread of aids.these fuks don't care.

Quote
More bullshit.  Goodrum is too ugly to get anyone into bed, m or f.  If the boyfriend didn't have wonky vision he wouldn't get any there either.[/quote but he his. he is having unprotected sex with a man. probally both are untested

Quote
Off the mark again.  In a survey of dirt poor practicing homosexual degenerate negros, 99% of the respondants said, "At least I'm not Goodrum."
right on the mark, those 99% and 100% of all liberals should die.

remember you "chose" to support a fag
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: buffdnet on April 16, 2010, 06:48:03 AM
The basis for this statement is flawed.  While in the US the HIV virus may have been spread primarily in the gay community in its early days, statistics show that its prevalance is just as high in heterosexuals <b>now.</b>  Further, in the countries with the highest rates of HIV infection, the vast majority are heterosexual.  HIV does not discriminate, and the fact that you do is simply a tetstament to the size of your brain. 
i put now in bold because from the start this crap came from gay men and was spread SOLEY BY HOMOS.
otherwise we wouldn't have a now or to the extent we "now" have.

thanks for the insult. showed your ability to debate/discuss so well. idiot liberal
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 16, 2010, 07:38:29 AM
right on the mark, those 99% and 100% of all liberals should die.

remember you "chose" to support a fag

No one should 'die' because of their beliefs.  Sheesh.

What I support is freedom.  Who someone puts their dick into behind closed doors isn't hurting anyone so it's really none of anyone's business.  And don't start in with the AIDS nonsense unless you're planning on unprotected sex with Goodrum.  Besides, your argument would only be against bisexuals since completely gay men would never screw a woman and infect her, so the only ones dying would be gay men which you seem to support in the first place.

There are plenty of people out there who disagree with your views or actions and I'm sure you wouldn't want them making rules for you, but their moral outrage or being offended wouldn't give them the right.  Just live and let live.  And have a coke or something.  Seems like you've got low blood sugar.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 16, 2010, 08:07:57 AM
oh really!. Lets test the theory
you goodrum are a practicing homosexual degenerate negro.
you goodrum help spread aids by engaging in dangerous sick and perverted sex acts
you goodrum being a homosexual rank in the food chain right there with murderers,
rapists and pedos which makes you less than a human let alone a man

put me in my rightful place homo.

This is a hate post. 

Seriously man, you wanting to mess with goodrum for whatever reason is one thing, but to just spew hate at him for the sake of your personal pleasure is uncalled for.

"1"
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: erokyrwrld on April 16, 2010, 08:11:55 AM
Agreed.  Why do people get so comsumed with hate and anger over what others do?  Its not being forced upon them, but they want to make rules and restrictions that everyone has to follow.

Most of these people consider themselves Christians as well.  But they fail to see how the church has perverted Christ's message and blindly follow.  Christ's number one rule was to love eachother.  The Christian churches (for the most part, especially Catholic which I was raised in), turn that message into love eachother, except for the gays, the non-believers and anyone else who isn't like you.  They support that message by ignoring Christ's ultimate commandment, and digging through the fire and brimstone messages found in the archaic old testament.  

While I don't want to hijack this thread, I am simply appalled by the hate and anger of the close minded sheep of our society.

Remember, as humans we are all flawed, and life will be much better enjoyed by those who accept that than those who are consumed with changing/hating everyone else.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 16, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
 unprotected sex in particular let alone the sick perverted variety. gay sex in wrong in my book.
melvin has never defended himself on this issue. safe to assume he participates in unprotected gay sex.
same with aids testing.  yes uprotected buttsex between has many times equalled one killing the other due
to the spread of aids.these fuks don't care.
right on the mark, those 99% and 100% of all liberals should die.

remember you "chose" to support a fag


I don't have to defend anything because I don't have AIDS or HIV or any other disease.  The only thing I ever got was crabs and that was from a woman I used to date because condoms can't protect against those things since they get into your pubic hair

Your comments are just another example of how stupid you are.  AIDS is a virus....diseases don't have preferences which is actually the reason why people are still getting it.  They think that because they're not gay or black that they are immune to it.....and they end up paying for it 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: buffdnet on April 16, 2010, 02:47:51 PM
Who someone puts their dick into behind closed doors isn't hurting anyone so it's really none of anyone's business.
false, it hurts us all with higher medical costs, it hurts family members or loved one who know better than this usual
line of liberal crap
there are no bisexuals. you suk a dick your a homo period.
"There are plenty of people out there who disagree with your views or actions and I'm sure you wouldn't want them making rules for you"
they already are. they are called democrats and liberals. they are making rules like
obamacare which i don't want nor want my grandkids to have to pay for. let alone pay
for homos to get treatment for a disease that was unadvoidable in the first place.
naw they hurting anyone

" Just live and let live. "
nope when it come to quality of life for my kids and grandkids, fuk no.
i refuse to live with my head in the sand or to turn a blind eye. aint happenin
i show no support for practicing gay men. no practicing who realize they weren't born
that way and that it's morally wrong, they're acceptable

  
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: buffdnet on April 16, 2010, 02:52:33 PM
facts are you are and always shall be less of a man than any heterosexual male here.
and i shall remind you often.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 16, 2010, 06:35:45 PM
Who someone puts their dick into behind closed doors isn't hurting anyone so it's really none of anyone's business.
false, it hurts us all with higher medical costs, it hurts family members or loved one who know better than this usual
line of liberal crap
there are no bisexuals. you suk a dick your a homo period.
"There are plenty of people out there who disagree with your views or actions and I'm sure you wouldn't want them making rules for you"
they already are. they are called democrats and liberals. they are making rules like
obamacare which i don't want nor want my grandkids to have to pay for. let alone pay
for homos to get treatment for a disease that was unadvoidable in the first place.
naw they hurting anyone

" Just live and let live. "
nope when it come to quality of life for my kids and grandkids, fuk no.
i refuse to live with my head in the sand or to turn a blind eye. aint happenin
i show no support for practicing gay men. no practicing who realize they weren't born
that way and that it's morally wrong, they're acceptable

  


Alright, I'll quit trying to convince you that people should be free to consent to whatever floats their boat in private.  No one ever changes their minds in these sorts of discussions anyway.  They just dig their heels in.

You just sound really hateful and humorless tho bro.  Blacks, fags, political liberals, etc.  Saying people should die.  Too much hot anger to be explained by a fear that your grandkids are going to pay unnecessarily high taxes.  Too much hate to be accounted for by moral indignation.  If you get sick of being an angry guy, I hope you can find what's going on in your life that's got you so pissed, overcome it, and have a better life.  Catch you later.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: jtsunami on April 16, 2010, 07:27:33 PM


I agree with this.
They’ve been doing studies for years to determine the effectiveness of replacing income tax with a flat rate sales tax.

Nobody can get around a sales tax.
No loopholes for certain income brackets.
All of our nice illegal aliens would have to pay it.
And it’s relative – if you make more, you can buy more, which means you’ll pay more total money in taxes, but it’s the same percentage as everyone else. Tell me how that’s not fair.



not bad like it
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Alexander D on April 16, 2010, 07:29:31 PM

I don't have to defend anything because I don't have AIDS or HIV or any other disease.  The only thing I ever got was crabs and that was from a woman I used to date because condoms can't protect against those things since they get into your pubic hair

Vince G has a huge muff!!! lol

-A DUB
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Milos_Sarcev on April 16, 2010, 07:40:09 PM
The Couch you mean...
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 16, 2010, 07:47:52 PM
Just when things are getting out of hand or boring, hapless Melvin Goodrum confesses that he once got crabs from a sheila! Who in his right mind would disclose this sort of personal medical information? Only our resident buffoon and nincompoop, Vince G CSN MFT!  
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 16, 2010, 08:07:31 PM
Hi Milos, how's the DEA been treating you lately?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: newmom on April 16, 2010, 08:09:03 PM
this is gonna be interesting
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 16, 2010, 10:29:36 PM

I don't have to defend anything because I don't have AIDS or HIV or any other disease.  The only thing I ever got was crabs and that was from a woman I used to date because condoms can't protect against those things since they get into your pubic hair

Your comments are just another example of how stupid you are.  AIDS is a virus....diseases don't have preferences which is actually the reason why people are still getting it.  They think that because they're not gay or black that they are immune to it.....and they end up paying for it 

Oh yea like we believe you have ever been with a girl.  Again you fail.  Unless "woman" is a code word for Vissy.  You have admitted he is the wife.  Hey you never answered the question why are your windows in your trailer so close to the floor.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: io856 on April 16, 2010, 11:55:18 PM
Just when things are getting out of hand or boring, hapless Melvin Goodrum confesses that he once got crabs from a sheila! Who in his right mind would disclose this sort of personal medical information? Only our resident buffoon and nincompoop, Vince G CSN MFT!  
hahahahaha

sometimes it takes somebody to point this out
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 17, 2010, 04:32:48 AM
Goodrum once boasted on an audio clip that he left someone's sister agape for hours after he was finished with her. Makes me wonder if Goodrum miscalculated his self-interest and ended up thinking homosexuality had more advantages. You know, no crabs! His life is one big misguided, bungled shortcut!

Look at his body language in this photo. He isn't touching one of the gals. Speaks volumes.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 17, 2010, 06:30:07 AM
Look at his body language in this photo. He isn't touching one of the gals. Speaks volumes.

He made the right call.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 17, 2010, 08:36:13 AM
Who someone puts their dick into behind closed doors isn't hurting anyone so it's really none of anyone's business.
false, it hurts us all with higher medical costs, it hurts family members or loved one who know better than this usual
line of liberal crap
there are no bisexuals. you suk a dick your a homo period.
"There are plenty of people out there who disagree with your views or actions and I'm sure you wouldn't want them making rules for you"
they already are. they are called democrats and liberals. they are making rules like
obamacare which i don't want nor want my grandkids to have to pay for. let alone pay
for homos to get treatment for a disease that was unadvoidable in the first place.
naw they hurting anyone

" Just live and let live. "
nope when it come to quality of life for my kids and grandkids, fuk no.
i refuse to live with my head in the sand or to turn a blind eye. aint happenin
i show no support for practicing gay men. no practicing who realize they weren't born
that way and that it's morally wrong, they're acceptable

  
People that are always aNgry get sicker. So youre raising our health care $ too. 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 09:06:05 AM
Goodrum once boasted on an audio clip that he left someone's sister agape for hours after he was finished with her. Makes me wonder if Goodrum miscalculated his self-interest and ended up thinking homosexuality had more advantages. You know, no crabs! His life is one big misguided, bungled shortcut!

Look at his body language in this photo. He isn't touching one of the gals. Speaks volumes.

Have you ever thought about being Melvin's mentor?  :D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince B on April 17, 2010, 09:28:51 AM
Melvin is impervious to any good advice. He is self-sufficient, capable, and successful without any outside help. It is just a matter of time before he shows us and wins a contest.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
Goodrum once boasted on an audio clip that he left someone's sister agape for hours after he was finished with her. Makes me wonder if Goodrum miscalculated his self-interest and ended up thinking homosexuality had more advantages. You know, no crabs! His life is one big misguided, bungled shortcut!

Look at his body language in this photo. He isn't touching one of the gals. Speaks volumes.

In all fairness to Vince...they're not "gals".
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 10:05:11 AM
In all fairness to Vince...they're not "gals".

You should Coach Melvin up Coach.  8)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 10:09:10 AM
You should Coach Melvin up Coach.  8)


LOL....he ridiculed me when he saw videos of some of my kids flipping tires, pushing trucks and pulling sleds. He would die...He's un-coachable.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
LOL....he ridiculed me when he saw videos of some of my kids flipping tires, pushing trucks and pulling sleds. He would die...He's un-coachable.

He does not look that shitty in that last pic that Vince posted. Your training just seems to be very rigorous as training should be.  ;)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 05:03:11 PM
LOL....he ridiculed me when he saw videos of some of my kids flipping tires, pushing trucks and pulling sleds. He would die...He's un-coachable.

Having a Youtube video with 2 minutes of kids flipping tires while playing "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" is lame enough.  It didn't showcase any of your methods of personal training skills or coaching. 

As far as "Coaching me" is concerned, seeing as how I have done Crossfit routines numerous times, I don't see anything spectacular.  In addition, I'm a drug free athlete and I don't need any advice on steroids from you as I would like to keep my liver and kidneys intact....I would rather get advice from Billy Gun before I would get it from you.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 05:07:51 PM
Having a Youtube video with 2 minutes of kids flipping tires while playing "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" is lame enough.  It didn't showcase any of your methods of personal training skills or coaching. 

As far as "Coaching me" is concerned, seeing as how I have done Crossfit routines numerous times, I don't see anything spectacular.  In addition, I'm a drug free athlete and I don't need any advice on steroids from you as I would like to keep my liver and kidneys intact....I would rather get advice from Billy Gun before I would get it from you.

Where is Billy Guns??
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
Where is Billy Guns??

I think he moved back in with his parents in NYC.  I don't think he's working but I could be wrong.  Billy has a lot of IT experience and could be holed up in some companies network server.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 05:20:37 PM
I think he moved back in with his parents in NYC.  I don't think he's working but I could be wrong.  Billy has a lot of IT experience and could be holed up in some companies network server.

I thought he was also livin it up in North Carolina.  ??? ???
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 05:24:39 PM
Having a Youtube video with 2 minutes of kids flipping tires while playing "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" is lame enough.  It didn't showcase any of your methods of personal training skills or coaching. 

As far as "Coaching me" is concerned, seeing as how I have done Crossfit routines numerous times, I don't see anything spectacular.  In addition, I'm a drug free athlete and I don't need any advice on steroids from you as I would like to keep my liver and kidneys intact....I would rather get advice from Billy Gun before I would get it from you.

1. I've never done crossfit. I'd get less injured jumping off a 4 story building.

2. If you did know anything about training, you should have known this, but since this you, you don't.

Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 05:25:34 PM
Where is Billy Guns??

He's the one "coaching" Vince.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 05:31:18 PM
1. I've never done crossfit. I'd get less injured jumping off a 4 story building.

2. If you did know anything about training, you should have known this, but since this you, you don't.




Crossfit is safe when you teach proper lifting techniques and wear proper training attire and footwear.  I suppose anything beyond flipping tires is too hard for you
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 05:33:21 PM

Crossfit is safe when you teach proper lifting techniques and wear proper training attire and footwear.  I suppose anything beyond flipping tires is too hard for you

You really do no nothing do you? You think thats the only problem with crossfit?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Doug_Steele on April 17, 2010, 05:39:51 PM

Crossfit is safe when you teach proper lifting techniques and wear proper training attire and footwear.  I suppose anything beyond flipping tires is too hard for you

TTA is a big tire flipper himself, right?  8)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
You really do no nothing do you? You think thats the only problem with crossfit?

Feel free to speak on it.  I'm listening.... :)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 05:53:32 PM
Having a Youtube video with 2 minutes of kids flipping tires while playing "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" is lame enough.  It didn't showcase any of your methods of personal training skills or coaching. 

As far as "Coaching me" is concerned, seeing as how I have done Crossfit routines numerous times, I don't see anything spectacular.  In addition, I'm a drug free athlete and I don't need any advice on steroids from you as I would like to keep my liver and kidneys intact....I would rather get advice from Billy Gun before I would get it from you.

Looks like you did get your training advice from Billy Gunns. But I digress, please answer this statment about you being an "athlete"? After reading that I nearly spit my food all over my computer from laughing so hard..hahahahaha!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 05:59:04 PM
Looks like you did get your training advice from Billy Gunns. But I digress, please answer this statment about you being an "athlete"? After reading that I nearly spit my food all over my computer from laughing so hard..hahahahaha!


Don't try to change the subject.  I would like to hear your explanation as to what's wrong with Crossfit training.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 17, 2010, 06:12:40 PM

Don't try to change the subject.  I would like to hear your explanation as to what's wrong with Crossfit training.

Ok Vince, lets start with sets 15 with olympic lifts like cleans. Lets assume the technique is proper, after multiple sets form begins to break down and eventually causing injuries. Vince give an out line of the routines you use.

Seems crossfit has no rhyme or reason when put the WOD of the day together, everything is random and thrown together. All designed to basically get you to sweat and make you think you're getting a great workout when in reality you're just being broke down. Want me to go on?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: chaos on April 17, 2010, 06:20:47 PM
I would like to keep my liver and kidneys intact
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But you've got no problem with losing all control of your stretched out sphincter ???
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 17, 2010, 06:24:22 PM
Ok Vince, lets start with sets 15 with olympic lifts like cleans. Lets assume the technique is proper, after multiple sets form begins to break down and eventually causing injuries. Vince give an out line of the routines you use.

Seems crossfit has no rhyme or reason when put the WOD of the day together, everything is random and thrown together. All designed to basically get you to sweat and make you think you're getting a great workout when in reality you're just being broke down. Want me to go on?

First off, the WOD is meant more for people who are already experienced in Crossfit Exercises.  And again, Coach, its all up to the trainer to monitor their client to insure that they are using proper form and a proper amount of weight.  Most beginners actually start out doing cleans with a PVC pipe and then work their way up.  In addition, while Olympic lifts are the popular core of Crossfit, a number of routines can be put together without doing Olympic lifts using box jumps, kettlebells, and even nothing but bodyweight.  

The dangers of Crossfit are no different than regular exercise.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 17, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
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But you've got no problem with losing all control of your stretched out sphincter ???
:D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 21, 2010, 11:21:53 AM
I think he moved back in with his parents in NYC.  I don't think he's working but I could be wrong.  Billy has a lot of IT experience and could be holed up in some companies network server.

I am still around I just prefer to stay away from the spotlight.....the dark is so much more loyal.....You are correct Vince I spend my days in server closets and maintaining Pharmacuticeal Companies, Lumber Yards, Union Construction Companies, Doctors, Lawyers, Auto Dealerships, Insurance Companies and more....At Night I spend it with my family watching cartoons and eating whatever the hell I want.....
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: newmom on April 21, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
At Night I spend it with my family watching cartoons and eating whatever the hell I want.....

Doesnt get much better than that
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 21, 2010, 05:47:25 PM
Doesnt get much better than that


Thx...it truly is lifes greatest reward!!!!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 21, 2010, 06:30:38 PM
I am still around I just prefer to stay away from the spotlight.....the dark is so much more loyal.....You are correct Vince I spend my days in server closets and maintaining Pharmacuticeal Companies, Lumber Yards, Union Construction Companies, Doctors, Lawyers, Auto Dealerships, Insurance Companies and more....At Night I spend it with my family watching cartoons and eating whatever the hell I want.....

Figured as much.  IT people make the world go round.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: newmom on April 21, 2010, 06:36:17 PM

Thx...it truly is lifes greatest reward!!!!

True indeed Billy.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 22, 2010, 09:02:31 AM
I am still around I just prefer to stay away from the spotlight.....the dark is so much more loyal.....You are correct Vince I spend my days in server closets and maintaining Pharmacuticeal Companies, Lumber Yards, Union Construction Companies, Doctors, Lawyers, Auto Dealerships, Insurance Companies and more....At Night I spend it with my family watching cartoons and eating whatever the hell I want.....

But doesn't it haunt you Billy?  What might have been?  You could have had it all!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 22, 2010, 09:29:01 AM
But doesn't it haunt you Billy?  What might have been?  You could have had it all!

LMAO I guess you didnt read any of it...I have it all the only thing i left behind were the LIES and Fake Friends....I have a nice house a great family a new truck and I eat whatever I want and train if I feel like it.....I dont waste vacation days at work to cover a bodybuilding show.....we as a family spend it on the beach or disney and or universal studios
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: outby43 on April 22, 2010, 03:49:44 PM
LMAO I guess you didnt read any of it...I have it all the only thing i left behind were the LIES and Fake Friends....I have a nice house a great family a new truck and I eat whatever I want and train if I feel like it.....I dont waste vacation days at work to cover a bodybuilding show.....we as a family spend it on the beach or disney and or universal studios

Good for you Billy.  I am sure you made some good friends in the past even though the bad ones tend to overshadow them at times.  Sounds like you have your shit together.  On a side note ...will you ever show your kids how big of a legend you were when they get older?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 22, 2010, 04:35:24 PM
Good for you Billy.  I am sure you made some good friends in the past even though the bad ones tend to overshadow them at times.  Sounds like you have your shit together.  On a side note ...will you ever show your kids how big of a legend you were when they get older?

My 8 year old loves looking through MD magazines....I support him totally....He is in the early education program for duke university....So if he wants to bodybuild after he has a career we support it....as for me It was a joke on everyone we all had fun with it wether you think it was serious or not it was all in good fun
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: dr.chimps on April 22, 2010, 04:38:03 PM
My 8 year old loves looking through MD magazines....I support him totally....He is in the early education program for duke university....So if he wants to bodybuild after he has a career we support it....as for me It was a joke on everyone we all had fun with it wether you think it was serious or not it was all in good fun
That's a little early to inculcate 'Duke Sucks,' isn't it!? I'm thinking Child Services should be notified.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 22, 2010, 04:43:00 PM
That's a little early to inculcate 'Duke Sucks,' isn't it!? I'm thinking Child Services should be notified.

LMAO so you wouldnt support your child being accepted into an advanced education program if their classes were to easy for them? He just read a 300 page book in 4 days and took a test on it and got a 94.....education is a free tool as long as you are willing to learn
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on April 22, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
LMAO so you wouldnt support your child being accepted into an advanced education program if their classes were to easy for them? He just read a 300 page book in 4 days and took a test on it and got a 94.....education is a free tool as long as you are willing to learn
Guess you never been to school in the USA.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 22, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
Billy, your son seems to have a gift for education at a young age, but bodybuilding is something I couldn't support if it were my son, just my take.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Tapeworm on April 22, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
LMAO I guess you didnt read any of it...I have it all the only thing i left behind were the LIES and Fake Friends....I have a nice house a great family a new truck and I eat whatever I want and train if I feel like it.....I dont waste vacation days at work to cover a bodybuilding show.....we as a family spend it on the beach or disney and or universal studios

Sweet.  We'll get Maurice Sendak to pen The Billy Guns Story. 

Who do you see playing you in the after school special?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 04:29:22 AM
Sweet.  We'll get Maurice Sendak to pen The Billy Guns Story. 

Who do you see playing you in the after school special?

CORKY for PREZ!!!LMAO
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 23, 2010, 05:28:12 AM
Hhahahahaha, good to see you've looked at my website.

www.mpftrainingsystems.c om

www.joelocalpt.com


It's about time the owing of 'hugeripped' continues.

is "Lori Hayden" your wife?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 05:45:06 AM
Billy, your son seems to have a gift for education at a young age, but bodybuilding is something I couldn't support if it were my son, just my take.

So you are telling me that if your son showed interest in something you would shun him from it? He hates sports but everytime I grab a MD magazine he stares at it in awe and tries to make poses like the pros.....When your kids have interests you need to support them no matter what it is they are into....its their interest not yours.....forcing a kid to like something he dosent will only make them hate it more and dispise you as they get older
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: WillGrant on April 23, 2010, 06:01:40 AM
So you are telling me that if your son showed interest in something you would shun him from it? He hates sports but everytime I grab a MD magazine he stares at it in awe and tries to make poses like the pros.....When your kids have interests you need to support them no matter what it is they are into....its their interest not yours.....forcing a kid to like something he dosent will only make them hate it more and dispise you as they get older
Hopefully he has his mum's genetics then  :D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 06:03:57 AM
Hopefully he has his mum's genetics then  :D

LOL don't we all....Imagine Billy Guns actually getting bigger and in shape......maybe someday you just might see the second coming ;D
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 23, 2010, 06:20:24 AM
When your kids have interests you need to support them no matter what it is they are into....its their interest not yours.....forcing a kid to like something he dosent will only make them hate it more and dispise you as they get older

In all seriousness, this is some outstanding parenting advice.

Bravo, Billy Guns!
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 06:24:41 AM
In all seriousness, this is some outstanding parenting advice.

Bravo, Billy Guns!

If my son came to me and said I find rocks more interesting than baseball.....then I would let him find his way....My boy loves DINOSAURS and I constantly buy him books on them, and even found Dinosaur dig kits to build a fake dinosaur after he digs out all the bones from the clay mold....I don't really care for anything about dinosaurs but its not my hobby its his and he loves it
Title: Re: "The Coach" Exposed As A Fitness Industry Scam Artist; Details Within
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2010, 07:23:09 AM
is "Lori Hayden" your wife?

Yes.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2010, 07:30:35 AM
So you are telling me that if your son showed interest in something you would shun him from it? He hates sports but everytime I grab a MD magazine he stares at it in awe and tries to make poses like the pros.....When your kids have interests you need to support them no matter what it is they are into....its their interest not yours.....forcing a kid to like something he dosent will only make them hate it more and dispise you as they get older

I support my son in every sport he is involved in but competitive bodybuilding I have to draw the line.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: lvtolft on April 23, 2010, 07:35:44 AM
I support my son in every sport he is involved in but competitive bodybuilding I have to draw the line.
I definitely agree with you on this.  Once someone understands what goes into competitive bodybuilding, it just isn't worth it.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 07:38:12 AM
I support my son in every sport he is involved in but competitive bodybuilding I have to draw the line.

Can I ask why if he loved it? Baseball players use steroids Football players use HGH and steroids if its over the drug use then it seems you need to realize that every sport is FILLED with drug use....not just steroids but pain killers and anti depressants to name a few
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 07:40:12 AM
I definitely agree with you on this.  Once someone understands what goes into competitive bodybuilding, it just isn't worth it.

Liked I stated earlier as long as he has a career and wants to compete as a hobby and not a means for an income I support that but I will not let him waste his life to try to be a bodybuilder if he dosen't have a career to fall back on and selling drugs or doing webcam is not a career
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2010, 09:02:54 AM
Can I ask why if he loved it? Baseball players use steroids Football players use HGH and steroids if its over the drug use then it seems you need to realize that every sport is FILLED with drug use....not just steroids but pain killers and anti depressants to name a few

It's just not the drugs Billy but other "behind the scenes" activity that goes along with it. You mentioned the drug use in mainstream sports and I agree with it and my son is aware of it especially in the field I'm in, that being said he also knows the consequences that can result in getting caught. There is ZERO consequences and wide acceptance in the drug use in bodybuilding and is used openly and that goes along with the lack of professionalism in bodybuilding. What's right for bodybuilding wouldn't last a split second in a mainstream sport without dire consequences.

Rothlesburger is a perfect recent example. For his actions he got suspended for the first six games of the next season and he wasn't even found guilty, but since his actions represent a bad reflection on the NFL, he's paying a heavy price. You do G4P or something like that in bodybuilding and there are no consequences because that's what the industry decided it wants to represent. Do I want my son part of an industry that has ZERO standards? Hell no!   
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 09:23:30 AM
It's just not the drugs Billy but other "behind the scenes" activity that goes along with it. You mentioned the drug use in mainstream sports and I agree with it and my son is aware of it especially in the field I'm in, that being said he also knows the consequences that can result in getting caught. There is ZERO consequences and wide acceptance in the drug use in bodybuilding and is used openly and that goes along with the lack of professionalism in bodybuilding. What's right for bodybuilding wouldn't last a split second in a mainstream sport without dire consequences.

Rothlesburger is a perfect recent example. For his actions he got suspended for the first six games of the next season and he wasn't even found guilty, but since his actions represent a bad reflection on the NFL, he's paying a heavy price. You do G4P or something like that in bodybuilding and there are no consequences because that's what the industry decided it wants to represent. Do I want my son part of an industry that has ZERO standards? Hell no!   

I agree on some levels but its not that standards are higher its more of cover your ass tactics....No sport cares what you do they just don't want to get a black eye from it.....Look at Tiger woods as an example do you really think people have not known for years in the sport.....his wife just had enough of it and it gave golf a black eye per se.....
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2010, 09:52:13 AM
In Tigers case, Golf is an individual sport and what even though what Tiger did dispicable it doesn't effect the golf industry as a whole, he hurt himself but not the games standards. But, if he did get caught using drugs you can bet he would be suspended. That being said, just for his cheating he lost a ton of sponsers along with a ton of money because of his acts. Yes, golf does test for PED's.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 23, 2010, 12:08:14 PM
In Tigers case, Golf is an individual sport and what even though what Tiger did dispicable it doesn't effect the golf industry as a whole, he hurt himself but not the games standards. But, if he did get caught using drugs you can bet he would be suspended. That being said, just for his cheating he lost a ton of sponsers along with a ton of money because of his acts. Yes, golf does test for PED's.

Actually the months he was gone Golf lost several millions of dollars from events he was scheduled to play in and didn't.  Every tournament he plays in means millions of additional dollars from live audience, to sponsors to television rights.  Some events pay Tiger to play in them because they know it will bring millions in additional revenue. 

Comparing BB to baseball again is just stupid.  You can fit the number of people who grow up wanting to be a pro bodybuilder in a small house over the past 100 years.  I don't even have to mention how many kids grow up wanting to play baseball.  BB is not something most people want to get into.  The reward does not match the hard work.  And no one in history was born with the genetics to be a pro bodybuilder and be the best.  The ONLY way to be the best or competitive pro is to take drugs and play with your health (in a bad way). 
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Billy Guns on April 23, 2010, 12:14:16 PM
Actually the months he was gone Golf lost several millions of dollars from events he was scheduled to play in and didn't.  Every tournament he plays in means millions of additional dollars from live audience, to sponsors to television rights.  Some events pay Tiger to play in them because they know it will bring millions in additional revenue. 

Comparing BB to baseball again is just stupid.  You can fit the number of people who grow up wanting to be a pro bodybuilder in a small house over the past 100 years.  I don't even have to mention how many kids grow up wanting to play baseball.  BB is not something most people want to get into.  The reward does not match the hard work.  And no one in history was born with the genetics to be a pro bodybuilder and be the best.  The ONLY way to be the best or competitive pro is to take drugs and play with your health (in a bad way). 

All true and valid and my only statement in the begining was that my son shows interest and I support his interests....LOL
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2010, 12:31:24 PM
All true and valid and my only statement in the begining was that my son shows interest and I support his interests....LOL

I can respect that.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: noworries on April 23, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
All true and valid and my only statement in the begining was that my son shows interest and I support his interests....LOL

That is great.  Just be sure with that support comes the information on what BB truly entails.  Don't trey to sugar coat something that can't be sugar coated.  Tell him up front the good stuff along with the bad stuff.  And yes there is bad stuff in everything.  But, if he is interested in BB then tell him about that.  Don't worry abpout everything else till the time comes
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: ManBearPig... on January 05, 2011, 11:03:51 AM
lol
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Hulkotron on January 05, 2011, 11:07:32 AM
I miss HugeRipped.  What happened to that fellow?  He stirred the pot quite well.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: StickStickly on January 05, 2011, 11:09:15 AM
Never knew he dropped out of college.... more fuel to my fire  :)
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: pellius on January 05, 2011, 01:56:43 PM
I miss HugeRipped.  What happened to that fellow?  He stirred the pot quite well.

If he only had over head lighting and the right camera angles then you would have seen how truly jacked he was.

Top tier poster for sure.
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: haider on January 05, 2011, 01:58:28 PM
I miss HugeRipped.  What happened to that fellow?  He stirred the pot quite well.
Hi HugeRipped
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 05, 2011, 02:18:31 PM
Never knew he dropped out of college.... more fuel to my fire  :)

Hahaha, as if it makes a difference now if I came up a few months short of a degree 26 years ago. "fuel to my fire" how fitting coming from a flamer. lol
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Fatpanda on January 05, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Hahaha, as if it makes a difference now if I came up a few months short of a degree 26 years ago. "fuel to my fire" how fitting coming from a flamer. lol

what happened coach ?

did they start the module on the laws of thermodynamics ?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 05, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
what happened coach ?

did they start the module on the laws of thermodynamics ?

No..it's something you, stickstickly and leafy bug will never experience.......women!


BTW, are you shredded yet?
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: Fatpanda on January 05, 2011, 02:47:25 PM
No..it's something you, stickstickly and leafy bug will never experience.......women!


BTW, are you shredded yet?

hahaha thats funny coming from the guy caught reading the sticky studs thread  :-X
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: el numero uno on January 05, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
No..it's something you, stickstickly and leafy bug will never experience.......women!


BTW, are you shredded yet?

lol
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: HTexan on January 05, 2011, 04:49:55 PM
hahaha thats funny coming from the guy caught reading the sticky studs thread  :-X
haha
Title: Re: "The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional
Post by: cyp200la on January 05, 2011, 05:40:50 PM
coach likes da sticky studs  :o