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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on May 14, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
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nothing wrong with going under the knife
but, that flying to costa rica to have it done, on "the cheap" I assume, is totally disgusting
with plastic surgery YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR
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its the people who look the best that usually are the most critical , Bay. Im hearing this alot too esp. from ppl around here who dont want to pay an arm and a leg, brazil is the top place for plastic surgery from what i hear.
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LOL. Bitchy. Bitchy. Bitchy. ;D
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There was a 60 minutes piece on these rejuvenation vacations and the accompanying horror stories...people killed, getting horid infections that required even more surgery, fucked up procedures...why anyone would do that just to save a few bucks is beyond me
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That's pretty gross. What is next, cunnilingus?
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
Why not just let people do whatever they want, as long as they're not hurting someone else? If you think it's ok to judge your friend's action, then by using the same logic it's ok to judge someone being gay.
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It's his body. If he wants to be lazy and get lipo, so be it.
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If he would be a true friend of yours u would understand
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gay years are like dog years so he is probably feeling ancient.
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Why not just let people do whatever they want, as long as they're not hurting someone else? If you think it's ok to judge your friend's action, then by using the same logic it's ok to judge someone being gay.
I am not stopping him from doing what he wants nor would I want to. In fact, he was admitting his lipo to me because he, himself, is uncomfortable with the decision he made… on some level it went against his own values. No one wants to self identify as lazy, a cheater, or undisciplined. Incidentally, I didn’t tell him I was disgusted. I merely listened to his “confession.”
Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with. ::)
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gay years are like dog years so he is probably feeling ancient.
lmao ;D
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Thats wierd thinking you get "disgusted" with anything.
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I am not stopping him from doing what he wants nor would I want to. In fact, he was admitting his lipo to me because he, himself, is uncomfortable with the decision he made… on some level it went against his own values. No one wants to self identify as lazy, a cheater, or undisciplined. Incidentally, I didn’t tell him I was disgusted. I merely listened to his “confession.”
Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with. ::)
word, my friend got lipo done in south america bout 8 months ago...she looked great for a couple months,but now shes gained back alot of the fat they took off. she wasn't even fat by any means...just a little baby fat left over from a pregnancy
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Only problem is the old habits will continue so these people will back in the same boat after awhile unless an effort to change is established.
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sloth. I never understood it. Even when I didn't have a job, I was in school full time, reading books, swimming, trying to get laid...
I cannot imagine a life where you spend 5+ hours a night on the couch doing nothing. It just boggles the mind.
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Nothing wrong with lipo. You are removing something that you can do with exercise true but if he has the cash who cares? It is not the same as say breast implants. He isn't totally changing what God gave him, he is simply taking some shit off the sides. WHen he comes back with lip implants or something then be critical IMO.
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
I totally agree with you. Plastic surgery in general disgusts me. It blows my mind how it has become widely accepted. For the amount of money people spend on plastic surgery, you could feed an entire African village or some other worthy cause. Oh well...to each his own :-\
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bay, you're an awful judge. you should just stop and listen to yourself.
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yes people do strange things
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word, my friend got lipo done in south america bout 8 months ago...she looked great for a couple months,but now shes gained back alot of the fat they took off. she wasn't even fat by any means...just a little baby fat left over from a pregnancy
The real trouble is that lipo conceals a serious problem. The fat we see around our waistline is a reflection of the fat building up around our heart and the coronary disease that goes with it. Unless you lose weight legitimately (good diet and cardiovascular exercise) your heart is still at serious risk. Now that she gained all the weight back, she has twice as much fat around her heart. :-[
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The real trouble is that lipo conceals a serious problem. The fat we see around our waistline is a reflection of the fat building up around our heart and the coronary disease that goes with it. Unless you lose weight legitimately (good diet and cardiovascular exercise) your heart is still at serious risk. Now that she gained all the weight back, she has twice as much fat around her heart. :-[
so what, it's their freakin' dime
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Nothing wrong with lipo. You are removing something that you can do with exercise true but if he has the cash who cares? It is not the same as say breast implants. He isn't totally changing what God gave him, he is simply taking some shit off the sides. WHen he comes back with lip implants or something then be critical IMO.
Why am I not surprised that Methyl Mike would have no objection to lipo? For those of you who don’t know this is the same guy who, in one thread, insisted he had to get out of Northern California because he led a “Conservative lifestyle” and refused to accept certain lifestyles due to his “morals.”
Dang some mixed feelings here. Some reasons I want to move-
Guns. I dislike californias attempt to deprive me of my right to own firearms. I want guns period. You can not tell me what I can or cannot have nor can you convince me that 10 bullets are less lethal than 30.
Conservative lifestyle- I am not uppity nor a Bible thumper but I refuse to accept certain lifestyles because they are "popular" in todays culture. I am sorry but I have MORALS. Also I dislike Obama and going to college here MY GOD even my fucking professors have told us they voted for him and hope we did! I am sorry but he is SHIT as president and if you can't see that then fuck you. Quit blindly following a liberal politician like a fucking lemming.
Yet in another thread he practically bragged about his decision not to pay the credit card debts he ran up. When I suggested he pay his debts he said I was being "harsh." Read his meltdown here http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=309532.0
Apparently his “morals”--which do not require him to pay his debts--approve of the self indulgence and waste characteristic of cosmetic surgery. So much for living a "conservative lifestyle." ::)
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Why am I not surprised that Methyl Mike would have no objection to lipo? For those of you who don’t know this is the same guy who, in one thread, insisted he had to get out of Northern California because he led a “Conservative lifestyle” and refused to accept certain lifestyles due to his “morals.”
Yet in another thread he practically bragged about his decision not to pay the credit card debts he ran up. When I suggested he pay his debts he said I was being "harsh." Read his meltdown here http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=309532.0
Apparently his “morals”--which do not require him to pay his debts--approve of the self indulgence and waste characteristic of cosmetic surgery. So much for living a "conservative lifestyle." ::)
Probably better you not speak to me about morals considering you shove foreign objects up your ass. Yet here you sit judging your "friend" because he decided to get some fat sucked off his body? Hmm, which is worse here, doing something disgusting and unnatural or using medical science to enhance ones body and self image. Do you realie you are a shell of a human being or does reality escape you?
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I wouldn't get any kind of surgery in a third world country
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Probably better you not speak to me about morals considering you shove foreign objects up your ass. Yet here you sit judging your "friend" because he decided to get some fat sucked off his body? Hmm, which is worse here, doing something disgusting and unnatural or using medical science to enhance ones body and self image. Do you realie you are a shell of a human being or does reality escape you?
I've a better idea: how about I not speak to you because you are a deadbeat! Relentless had you pegged from day one.
I think YOU are the problem, not any particular place you are living.
Why don't you come back once you've paid all your delinquent credit card debts.... In other words... never. ::)
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Baygbm you seem like a good person but you are the most judgemental black gay man I've ever encountered
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Baygbm you seem like a good person but you are the most judgemental black gay man I've ever encountered
You say that like it's a bad thing. 8)
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You say that like it's a bad thing. 8)
BAY is just trying to get his PM box full of admirers.
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BAY is just trying to get his PM box full of admirers.
We already had a round of making fun of Methyl Mike via PM. ;D
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I've a better idea: how about I not speak to you because you are a deadbeat! Relentless had you pegged from day one.
Why don't you come back once you've paid all your delinquent credit card debts.... In other words... never. ::)
It HAS to be a level that an admitted sexual deviant is actually attempting to fuck with me. This is rather comical ;D
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OMG OMG
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a person is free to do anything to their body.
however...
any person who can burn that much fat with diet and exercise will have greater discipline, better health, etc etc. There are a whole lotta benefits that come with losing that kinda weight.
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a person is free to do anything to their body.
however...
any person who can burn that much fat with diet and exercise will have greater discipline, better health, etc etc. There are a whole lotta benefits that come with losing that kinda weight.
What you are missing here is that a man of questionable morals at BEST is sitting here judging his supposed friend from his keyboard. Not only a weirdo but a coward as well.
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What you are missing here is that a man of questionable morals at BEST is sitting here judging his supposed friend from his keyboard. Not only a weirdo but a coward as well.
mike, are you saying bay is questionable because he is a gay?
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Surgeries and dentistry nd all that shit is just as good in many poor countries as it is in the USA.
The USA is FULL of shitty doctors, dentists, and cosmetic surgeons. Going to Costa Rica to get somethign like that done is fine.
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What you are missing here is that a man of questionable morals at BEST is sitting here judging his supposed friend from his keyboard. Not only a weirdo but a coward as well.
LOL. You the same guy who decided it was 'logical' to not pay his credit card tab!?
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I wouldn't get any kind of surgery in a third world country
Don't knock it, dude. My great uncle Josef had some work done in Brazil back in 1946 and apparently you could hardly recognise him afterwards.
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Don't knock it, dude. My great uncle Josef had some work done in Brazil back in 1946 and apparently you could hardly recognise him afterwards.
LOL! You realize only Dr. Chimps and Matt C will get it?
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
seriously dude, what makes you think we give a fuck about your 46 yr old friend? you spent all that time making that post for what ???
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seriously dude, what makes you think we give a fuck about your 46 yr old friend? you spent all that time making that post for what ???
Here is a better question: why are you reading and responding to threads you are ostensibly not interested in? Two pages worth no less. Presumably you have something better to do with your time (the gym perhaps). ::)
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You should have ended his life.
Words could not describe the outrage I would have if a "friend" told me he had surgery! What kind of soulless human would do such a thing? I hope you've severed ALL ties to this despicable heap of human slime!
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I think what most people are interested in what makes you go so mad? Who cares what your friend does, not everybody wants to go to the gym people have different priorities in life.
All this suspiciously sounds to me like deep down you are a little bit jealous.
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I think what most people are interested in what makes you go so mad? Who cares what your friend does, not everybody wants to go to the gym people have different priorities in life.
All this suspiciously sounds to me like deep down you are a little bit jealous.
Perhaps you missed the part when I pointed out that he, himself, was uncomfortable with the decision he made… because it went against his own values. "Jealous" of liposuction in Costa Rica? Um, no. ::)
And I said was “disgusted” not mad. As for why, there are 130 pages on "Fat peoples lack of willpower is sickening" http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=130040.0
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Perhaps you missed the part when I pointed out that he, himself, was uncomfortable with the decision he made… because it went against his own values. "Jealous" of liposuction in Costa Rica? Um, no. ::)
And I said was “disgusted” not mad. As for why, there are 130 pages on "Fat peoples lack of willpower is sickening" http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=130040.0
I just don't get it why you are mad or disgused - seriously, its another persons decission he did not harm anybody with his decisson, so why be disgusted.
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Here is a better question: why are you reading and responding to threads you are ostensibly not interested in? Two pages worth no less. Presumably you have something better to do with your time (the gym perhaps). ::)
i didnt read 2 pages . just saw your thread title , and then saw how fucking stupid it was, and i responded to it...didnt waste any more time than i had to
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OMG! As I predicted some time ago, the guy who went to Costa Rica for liposuction is talking about going back for more “work” but he is feeling conflicted. Why more work? Because (big surprise) he got fat again... and it's not even one year later... ::)
As I said before "Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with." :-[
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OMG! As I predicted some time ago, the guy who went to Costa Rica for liposuction is talking about going back for more “work” but he is feeling conflicted. Why more work? Because (big surprise) he got fat again... and it's not even one year later... ::)
As I said before "Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with." :-[
Does he have a Poor credit score? :D :D
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Sorry, but if I'm going under the knife for cosmetic surgery I'll do it in the states
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Does he have a Poor credit score? :D :D
Boom! I noticed that, too. ;D
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OMG! As I predicted some time ago, the guy who went to Costa Rica for liposuction is talking about going back for more “work” but he is feeling conflicted. Why more work? Because (big surprise) he got fat again... and it's not even one year later... ::)
As I said before "Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with." :-[
him dishing a few dollars out of pocket is apparently much better than going to the gym. as long as it doesn't affect you, i don't know why you care. he doesn't ask how many dicks you had in your mouth over the weekend.
i wouldn't do it myself , but i keep saying the second i can go in for hrt, i'm sprinting to the "clinic". we're all vain, and we care much more about what people think of us than they actually do.
with that said, my wife's cousins often go to eastern europe to get dental work because it's "cheaper". sadly, most of them are handsome millionaires as they bought up parts of chicago in the 70's that were practically condemned and are now "hot spots".
as shitsukki said, the dentists may be just as good there as in the US, but at least here if they fuck up there's a way to fix it, either by suing or them guaranteeing the work. you go to a 3rd world shithole dentist to complain, and he just pulls a gun on you.
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OMG! As I predicted some time ago, the guy who went to Costa Rica for liposuction is talking about going back for more “work” but he is feeling conflicted. Why more work? Because (big surprise) he got fat again... and it's not even one year later... ::)
As I said before "Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with." :-[
Bay this seems to be a problem for a few friends of mine that got lipo. Not huge weight issues like I did but still. I look at them I'm like WTF.
I told myself, if I wanted surgery to remove the tad of loose skin in the lower ab area, I'd wait at least 2 years. Well 2 years has come and gone and I've kept it off. It isn't a lot of money 2500, (2 estimates and yes that's alot of money but not for surgery IMO).
I think the same thing happens to people that have gastric bypass that are only 100-200 llbs overweight. They put that shit back on because they didn't teach themselves to eat right
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
why would you care what he does with his body?
why would him getting lipo cause you to look at him differently? seriously- your going to judge him cause he got lipo? hes not a crack head or smoking meth.
you need to re-think your values bro.
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
Would you still suck his cock fairy?
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A lot of people from Western Europe go to Asia, especially Thailand for plastic surgery and visuscorrection. The MD´s are usually trained in Western countries. But when something goes wrong you´re in trouble.
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why would you care what he does with his body?
why would him getting lipo cause you to look at him differently? seriously- your going to judge him cause he got lipo? hes not a crack head or smoking meth.
you need to re-think your values bro.
Weren't you the "no one" not so long ago saying that all fat people are disgusting? Isn't it a little hypocritical and not very positive of you?
Although I'm all for live and let live, someone who lose 80lb via dedication versus 20lb being sucked out of them definitely won't have the same respect from me.
AdipoSpeed.
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I am not stopping him from doing what he wants nor would I want to. In fact, he was admitting his lipo to me because he, himself, is uncomfortable with the decision he made… on some level it went against his own values. No one wants to self identify as lazy, a cheater, or undisciplined. Incidentally, I didn’t tell him I was disgusted. I merely listened to his “confession.”
Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with. ::)
I feel the same way about lipo..It grosses me out,..
I see people that are fat as weak, and getting lipo is an easy way out..
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I feel the same way about lipo..It grosses me out,..
I see people that are fat as weak, and getting lipo is an easy way out..
Unfortunately, it is not even that. As I said back in May, “The fat we see around our waistline is a reflection of the fat building up around our heart and the coronary disease that goes with it. Unless you lose weight legitimately (good diet and cardiovascular exercise) your heart is still at serious risk.” Lipo makes people think they are better off (they "look" better), but it really hides the fact that their insides are laden with fat and a disaster waiting to happen. :-[
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To each their own, don't really care what anyone does to themselves, your body your choices! but like you said there are usually deeper issues that need to be solved
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To each their own, don't really care what anyone does to themselves, your body your choices! but like you said there are usually deeper anal tissues massages that need to be solved
Fixed for Tbombz.
Train/Burn/suck POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OMG! As I predicted some time ago, the guy who went to Costa Rica for liposuction is talking about going back for more “work” but he is feeling conflicted. Why more work? Because (big surprise) he got fat again... and it's not even one year later... ::)
As I said before "Unfortunately for him, and people like him, lipo does not solve the problem because they are still caught up in the lifestyle habits (poor diet, sloth) that generated the fat to begin with." :-[
Why are you so wrapped up with what someone else does to their own body? Are you pro-choice?
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I wouldn't get any kind of surgery in a third world country
:o
some 3rd world countries have excellent hlth care systems, top world in plastics.
Before
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2006/0609/chavez0922.jpg)
After
(http://www.johnkinsella.net/world_112.jpg)
USA Plastics
Before and After
(http://nonjok.com/backend/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/a99_Jocelyn.jpg)
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Weren't you the "no one" not so long ago saying that all fat people are disgusting? Isn't it a little hypocritical and not very positive of you?
Although I'm all for live and let live, someone who lose 80lb via dedication versus 20lb being sucked out of them definitely won't have the same respect from me.
AdipoSpeed.
hey bitch! glad to see you still hanging off my nuts, where you belong.
show me one post i've made where i've called fat people 'disgusting'.
you on the other hand are a disgusting fat bitch.
oops.
carry on.
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A friend of mine (46) recently admitted to me that he had liposuction to remove fat from around his waist. I was shocked and disgusted by this news! He was a varsity soccer player back in high school with a physique that anyone would respect; even in college he was in good shape. Sure, time takes it toll and sitting behind a desk for twenty years doesn’t help, but there is nothing stopping this guy from hitting the gym and eating right. I used to mock people who did this sort of thing, but knowing a friend of mine did it truly disgusts me.
Even more disgusting, he had it done in Costa Rica where apparently many Americans now go for rejuvenating vacations; you can have the surgery and convalesce/vacation at the same time in the cosmetic surgery resort. I checked online and sure enough there are several such cosmetic surgery resorts in Costa Rica. The point is to save money (CS is much cheaper in Costa Rica) and go away so no one has to see you looking swollen, bruised, etc. You simply say you went on “vacation” and come back looking rejuvenated/slimmer. Something stinks about this whole thing. I’m not as lean as I once was, but I would never do this! Cosmetic surgery to restore my face after an accident? Yes. But this? No. >:(
you need to stop worrying about what you friend is doing with his money.
Plus youre pro roids, talk about being a hypocrite.
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you need to stop worrying about what you friend is doing with his money.
Plus youre pro roids, talk about being a hypocrite.
I am going to "worry" about it and you can't stop me!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=130040.0 ::)
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Haven't had a chance to read all of this but I found the 1st page interesting and have a couple of unprofessional comments.
First ... Is liposuction actually considered "cosmetic surgery"? I picture it as nothing more than inserting a tube in your stomach and then sucking out the fat.
When I was doing taxes in the Los Angeles a lot of the movie people would want me to claim their cosmetic surgery procedures as a deduction on the federal tax form but back them most cosmetic surgery was non-deductable unless it was for health reasons.
The rules might have changed since then but what really surprised me was the number of Hollywood folk that paid big bucks for cosmetic surgery that I could not see even though I was less than a few feet from their well known face.
And even a bigger surprise was the price they paid to have a Nip here and a Tuk there.
It ain't for the average income earner.
I wo'n't say "most" but a lot of the major and minor stars have some form of cosmetic surgery sooner or later and you all know damn well that it's not too uncommon within the world of bodybuilding to have your butt or calfs or chest redone a bit in an attempt to take home a $5 trophy or $100,000 first place cash.
(No ass tucking jokes, please!)
Cosmetic surgery may sound dumb to most of us but if you got the cash and have the need to look your best within the public eye (movie stars and politicians mainly), it's smart to follow through and get Nipped and Tucked ... but only by the highly respectable and professional Nip and Tuckers, MD, PhD, etc.
I don't recommend it for everyone ... but I can recommend the best to anyone.
Your tuck'n buddy, Stunt
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Bah, liposuction.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Nothing that 15i.u. HGH couldn't fix i guess?
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I am going to "worry" about it and you can't stop me!
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=130040.0 ::)
go ahead and worry. You flaming drama queen. ::)
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It seems that chin implants are the big thing lately in hollywood with both male and female stars. I know a guy that denies it but he had a plastic insert in his chin and had lipo suction on his abs. He is a skinny muscleless wonder but he has abs in all his facebook vacation pictures. He now has a squared off masculine chin when in earlier pics it's makes the implant look so obvious.
I suspect that both Howard Stern and Jenifer Aniston had chin implants. Look at both of their earlier faces compared to how they look today. Also I'm guessing Stern had some taken off his nose.
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It seems that chin implants are the big thing lately in hollywood with both male and female stars. I know a guy that denies it but he had a plastic insert in his chin and had lipo suction on his abs. He is a skinny muscleless wonder but he has abs in all his facebook vacation pictures. He now has a squared off masculine chin when in earlier pics it's makes the implant look so obvious.
I suspect that both Howard Stern and Jenifer Aniston had chin implants. Look at both of their earlier faces compared to how they look today. Also I'm guessing Stern had some taken off his nose.
:o :o :o
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OLDTIMER, I don't know the personal business of any of the above you mentioned and if I did know, I'd be reluctant to say, but there are many, many other screen and TV stars that have undergone the knife but want to keep it confidential.
The surgeons I know (not many... but I do play poker with a couple on rare occasions) tell me that if it looks obvious, it isn't plastic surgery ... except when the job is done on the cheap or if it's done too damn many times.
Joan Rivers has made a business out of joking about her reconstructed face and it's definitely evident that she's had it done more than once or more than a dozen onces. She is one of the very few who can talk about it. A lot of people pinch her thinking that she's one of those wax museum figures that look like real.
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Haven't had a chance to read all of this but I found the 1st page interesting and have a couple of unprofessional comments.
First ... Is liposuction actually considered "cosmetic surgery"? I picture it as nothing more than inserting a tube in your stomach and then sucking out the fat.
When I was doing taxes in the Los Angeles a lot of the movie people would want me to claim their cosmetic surgery procedures as a deduction on the federal tax form but back them most cosmetic surgery was non-deductable unless it was for health reasons.
The rules might have changed since then but what really surprised me was the number of Hollywood folk that paid big bucks for cosmetic surgery that I could not see even though I was less than a few feet from their well known face.
And even a bigger surprise was the price they paid to have a Nip here and a Tuk there.
It ain't for the average income earner.
I wo'n't say "most" but a lot of the major and minor stars have some form of cosmetic surgery sooner or later and you all know damn well that it's not too uncommon within the world of bodybuilding to have your butt or calfs or chest redone a bit in an attempt to take home a $5 trophy or $100,000 first place cash.
(No ass tucking jokes, please!)
Cosmetic surgery may sound dumb to most of us but if you got the cash and have the need to look your best within the public eye (movie stars and politicians mainly), it's smart to follow through and get Nipped and Tucked ... but only by the highly respectable and professional Nip and Tuckers, MD, PhD, etc.
I don't recommend it for everyone ... but I can recommend the best to anyone.
Your tuck'n buddy, Stunt
Cosmetic surgery on your face is another subject and not at all what I’m talking about here (though I would never do that either). The issue I have with lipo is that the guy I know who did it is obviously conflicted about doing it; lipo goes against his values, yet he is too vain to do without it and too undisciplined to eat right and exercise. I have known this guy since grade school and I remember when he was a varsity athlete in great shape. To see him fall all the way down to having lipo is kinda shocking given I knew what I looked like years ago. And now, less than a year later he is thinking about having more work done (in Costa Rica again because it is so much cheaper)!
The other issue is that people who do this very often continue the habits of living that made them fat to begin with so nothing has really changed; their organs are still surrounded by fat with the attendant consequences just around the corner. :-[
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OK, Bay. Thanks for the intelligent response.
The people I have been talking about are the type of people who want a temporary fix so that they can look decent in their next movie project.
They are not overly concerned about long term because they figure that they can come back and repeat the surgery when their next movie role becomes available.
That my opinion but it may not be theirs.
BUT I think that this friend of yours is looking for some kind of moral support from a friend before he does it again.
If that is so, it might be best to support him unless it will do some harm.
To me, it's evidently pretty damn nice of him to have enough confidence in a friend to discuss how he really feels. He wouldn't discuss it with ya otherwise.
But what the fuc do I know.
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Bah, liposuction.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Nothing that 15i.u. HGH couldn't fix i guess?
so "they' say...
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You say that like it's a bad thing. 8)
being judgmental IS a bad thing bay. I like you but the way you talk about your friend who got lipo is kind of immature to be honest. Live and let live, there was no crime committed. However your comments about it being unhealthy are right on
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Yep! Perfectly stated.
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being judgmental IS a bad thing bay. I like you but the way you talk about your friend who got lipo is kind of immature to be honest. Live and let live, there was no crime committed. However your comments about it being unhealthy are right on
A crime does not have to be committed for something to be wrong or misguided. And all of us are judgmental; we pass judgment on, and make choices about, all sorts of things every day. Your decision to call me “judgmental” is itself a judgment and there is nothing wrong with your expressing that opinion.
I am not a fan of trying to control other people; as I said before “I am not stopping him from doing what he wants nor would I want to” but we live in a world where people consistently make choices that lead them to a very bad place, and then they wonder why fate is so unkind to them, as if there were no relationship between the choices they made and the consequences they are living with. Many young people, for example, choose to drop out of high school; fast forward a few years and they find themselves wondering why so many doors in life are closed to them (which reminds me of this thread http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281208.0 )
I see this happening with my friend, but what really fascinates me about this episode is that I can see that he sees it to. He is actually a very educated and intelligent man, and I can hear him wrestling with his own impulses about having more surgery. He knows the impulse to have more surgery is taking him to “a very bad place” but he can’t seem to stop himself. His vanity, sense of discipline, and reason are at odds. I suspect that is something many of us on this board can identify with. :-[
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Baygbm you seem like a good person but you are the most judgemental black gay man I've ever encountered
Dude, ALL gay guys are judgemental ...well atleast the queens are.
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I had a friend years ago, this was in the late 1980s, who was a recreational bodybuilder -- meaning he didn't compete but just wanted to have a great physique. It was just his hobby. Anyway, he was in damn good shape and very lean. The thing was that he had these little "love handles". It wasn't really that bad for a normal person but because he was so lean everywhere else they kind of stood out. No matter what he did he couldn't get rid of those. I saw him get downright skinny and lose a lot of muscle to try to get rid of those things. Those two pockets of fat but they just wouldn't budge. He finally got them sucked out. Problem solved. Back in the gym two days latter.
I didn't think it was a big thing. Sure it was vain and in the real world probably nobody noticed but him. I just remember thinking what a country we live in that can give us the luxury to worry about such things and do something about it.
BTW, it did make a difference in his physique. Much more than I thought it would.
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a crime DOES have to be committed in order for something to be wrong. im not talking about the united states legal system, im talking about true crime. breaking moral law. and in order for something to be wrong, there must be a victim. when there is no victim, there is no crime.
even when someone does do something wrong, you still should not condemn them or think ill of them or be disgusted by them. just be saddened by their lapse in or lack of character and wish them better. :)
i wasnt judging you, i was saying that being judgemental is a bad thing because you said it wasnt. ("you say that like its a bad thing") i was simply trying to shed some light on the reality of the moral situation at hand.
A crime does not have to be committed for something to be wrong or misguided. And all of us are judgmental; we pass judgment on, and make choices about, all sorts of things every day. Your decision to call me “judgmental” is itself a judgment and there is nothing wrong with your expressing that opinion.
I am not a fan of trying to control other people; as I said before “I am not stopping him from doing what he wants nor would I want to” but we live in a world where people consistently make choices that lead them to a very bad place, and then they wonder why fate is so unkind to them, as if there were no relationship between the choices they made and the consequences they are living with. Many young people, for example, choose to drop out of high school; fast forward a few years and they find themselves wondering why so many doors in life are closed to them (which reminds me of this thread http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281208.0 )
I see this happening with my friend, but what really fascinates me about this episode is that I can see that he sees it to. He is actually a very educated and intelligent man, and I can hear him wrestling with his own impulses about having more surgery. He knows the impulse to have more surgery is taking him to “a very bad place” but he can’t seem to stop himself. His vanity, sense of discipline, and reason are at odds. I suspect that is something many of us on this board can identify with. :-[
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a crime DOES have to be committed in order for something to be wrong. im not talking about the united states legal system, im talking about true crime. breaking moral law. and in order for something to be wrong, there must be a victim. when there is no victim, there is no crime.
even when someone does do something wrong, you still should not condemn them or think ill of them or be disgusted by them. just be saddened by their lapse in or lack of character and wish them better. :)
i wasnt judging you, i was saying that being judgemental is a bad thing because you said it wasnt. ("you say that like its a bad thing") i was simply trying to shed some light on the reality of the moral situation at hand.
We disagree.
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We disagree.
We don't :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
;D
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We disagree.
so would you say you think its ok to express negativity?
because thats where the disinction lies between being judgmental and a truthful assessment. judgemental just looks at the truth in a negative way. (when negatively judged). it takes a jump from correlation to causation towards a pessimistic/negative end.
i dont think expressing negativity about someone is to be desired. id rather wish everyone the best, and when i see distasteful behavior give as much benefit of the doubt as possible, within reason. but of course, never leave myself open for the taking advantage of either.
to feel irritated, annoyed, disgusted, discomforted, or any negativity towards someone is not a good thing. i think sometimes you cant help it and will have to express anger at people, but you should always express sadness over their lapse in character and always hope that they become better, more righteous people.
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We don't :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
;D
I love you, dude! :P
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I love you, dude! :P
you owe me at least a decent lunch & drinks next time I'm up ;D
Hope you had fun at "midway" brother.
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Isn't lipo very common with bodybuilders? From what I understand most pros do it these days.