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Title: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 22, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
My cousins new boyfriend - "I cage fight in my spare time"

The new guy at work "Im training to be a cage fighter"

The car dealer i went to Monday "I do a bit of the old cage fighting"

WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE!!!!????
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Post by: CalvinH on July 22, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
Not me,I'm not gay.
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Post by: _bruce_ on July 22, 2010, 10:33:03 AM
MMA is the new AIDS
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Post by: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Cage fighting in his spare time, huh?  Oh brother..."Yeah, I've got a few hours to kill, think I'll go roll around with Jermaine in my underwear..."
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Post by: noworries on July 22, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
McAnusPusher can beat the hit out of all of them.  He is easily the baddest guy on Getbig.  I hear it all the time.  Just from him, though. ::)
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Post by: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
McAnusPusher can beat the hit out of all of them.  He is easily the baddest guy on Getbig.  I hear it all the time.  Just from him, though. ::)

He is certainly the angriest.... :-\
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Post by: devilsmile on July 22, 2010, 10:39:59 AM
it's so easy to be called a MMA artist, even swede is an mma artist... no offence swede.. but you are :D (irony that I have to say no offence), all you have to do is few months of jiujitsu, some streetfighting, go to the cage with the small gloves and get your ass kicked, then you have deserved to be called a cage fighter :/

but you're not a boxer even after 5 years....

in my gym this 20lbs heavyer bald dude he said; "yeh I'm a bouncer... then do lil cage now then........... ye ye cage fighting..."

he couldn't do 12 pull ups...  :-X
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Post by: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 10:44:38 AM
it's so easy to be called a MMA artist, even swede is an mma artist... no offence swede.. but you are :D (irony that I have to say no offence), all you have to do is few months of jiujitsu, some streetfighting, go to the cage with the small gloves and get your ass kicked, then you have deserved to be called a cage fighter :/

but you're not a boxer even after 5 years....

in my gym this 20lbs heavyer bald dude he said; "yeh I'm a bouncer... then do lil cage now then........... ye ye cage fighting..."

he couldn't do 12 pull ups...  :-X

So you equate how many pull ups somebody does with how they handle themselves in hand-to-hand combat?  Interesting...
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Post by: devilsmile on July 22, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
So you equate how many pull ups somebody does with how they handle themselves in hand-to-hand combat?  Interesting...

I was waiting for that...

"PfffffhhH!!! You don't do anything with pull ups in the cage..... PFFFT, you don't do anything with physical fitness in the cage.... PFFFFT you don't do anything with 20 miles every morning in the cage!"

that's not my point, my point is.... you get the title "cage fighter/mma artist" if you have the "courage" to step in the cage and get beaten... but if you do that, then you're... you're it :D
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Post by: ThaRealist on July 22, 2010, 10:49:15 AM
I am short and buff... Now that bodybuilding is not popular, I have no choice but to become a cage fighter...
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Post by: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
I was waiting for that...

"PfffffhhH!!! You don't do anything with pull ups in the cage..... PFFFT, you don't do anything with physical fitness in the cage.... PFFFFT you don't do anything with 20 miles every morning in the cage!"

that's not my point, my point is.... you get the title "cage fighter/mma artist" if you have the "courage" to step in the cage and get beaten... but if you do that, then you're... you're it :D

Nah, I'd say cardio obviously plays a huge part in it, anybody who has ever wrestled or boxed will vouche for that....see "in shape" guys blow up all the time.....but pull-ups are meaningless from a fighting standpoint...all it does is gauge how much upperbody strength someone has in proportion to their weight.

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Post by: devilsmile on July 22, 2010, 10:56:35 AM
Nah, I'd say cardio obviously plays a huge part in it, anybody who has ever wrestled or boxed will vouche for that....see "in shape" guys blow up all the time.....but pull-ups are meaningless from a fighting standpoint...all it does is gauge how much upperbody strength someone has in proportion to their weight.

I have seen it in my own eyes that it's bullshit.... every movement he did was with 30-50 pounds less weight he was constantly trying to convinse me it was because he was "running" today and that he had 2 week lay off  ::)

DUDE!!! Why you need to  :D... you can't... can't even touch your toes when you stand... some cage fighter, true professinal athlete  ::)

The point is, people who never knew what martial arts means suddenly watches ufc, gets few "fight!" lessons and consider them a "cage fighter"...


lol, I'm a cage fighter even... hell I'm a "fighter".... hell I'm an athlete  ::).... i think mma has developed a low standard to start calling one an mma artist or cage fighter, that's all
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Post by: Devon97 on July 22, 2010, 10:58:57 AM
I covered this in a diff thread but I will re-post:

MMA is a rag tag bunch of misfits who couldn't cut it in boxing, football, or wrestling. Typically guys with a chip on their shoulder. They still have "something to prove" They literally "support" the industry not only as participants but also fans .

Take a moment and think of the type guys you see wearing tap out and monarchy shit. Shaved heads, covered in tats, go-tees, juiced up, no college degrees, low level jobs ( if any).
Another key component is that the MMA fan boys will take it VERY PERSONAL if you make a dig on MMA. For what ever reason they get very offended.

Why is this? I will tell you why, because it is their identity! Latching onto MMA by watching PAY-Per view fights, wearing the Tap out shit, shaved head , talking about diff fighting styles ( but never actually practicing them ) gives them a sense of identity.

Since many of these types have a low self esteem, "short mans complex" or chip on their shoulder, the Bad ass tuff guy , brusier persona that goes along with the MMA industry serves its purpose by giviing these wanna bees something to cling to. They adopt it as their M.O. , their identity, what people know them as, etc. In the end Resulting is a pathetic , silly joke of a person.

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 22, 2010, 11:01:04 AM
I have seen it in my own eyes that it's bullshit.... every movement he did was with 30-50 pounds less weight he was constantly trying to convinse me it was because he was "running" today and that he had 2 week lay off  ::)

DUDE!!! Why you need to  :D... you can't... can't even touch your toes when you stand... some cage fighter, true professinal athlete  ::)

The point is, people who never knew what martial arts means suddenly watches ufc, gets few "fight!" lessons and consider them a "cage fighter"...


lol, I'm a cage fighter even... hell I'm a "fighter".... hell I'm an athlete  ::).... i think mma has developed a low standard to start calling one an mma artist or cage fighter, that's all

I'm not arguing with you at all on that point.....I think it has too.  I used to get guys in my store wearing some Tapout shit and trying to find kettle bells, etc...  when I would show them the kettle bells, suddenly they wouldn't buy them after they tell me they've been looking everywhere for them....they were the same guys who ALWAYS had to bring up their training/fighting during the conversation.

My only point was that I don't think pull-ups are any gauge of anything other than being able to pull your own bodyweight up in the air about 2 feet.  ;D
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Post by: devilsmile on July 22, 2010, 11:03:28 AM
yeah that's fair enough, pull ups was a bad example... just saying.... but I agree with you.

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Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 11:03:42 AM
alot of the fanboys of mma, tapout wearing spike tv loving brock lesnar nut hugging, are into it because they are insecure about their ability to defend themselves.  

alot of the people who hate on mma do so because they think they could beat up all the fans and all the fighters


the guys who actually fight, and actually train, and actually win.. their cool

me, im indifferent.. i see how it could be fun to get into fights with people just to beat them up. and i see why people dislike the fans, and the fighters... alot of times when ive watched the "pro fighters" they dotn seem to have very much "killer instinct", and just kind of relax and try to play the fight as a slow back-and-forth strategic kind of game..   which is bullshit and not fighting at all
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 12:06:20 PM

 What about those meatheads wearing those ridiculous t shirts?
 I think most of of people are just jealous, since a "MMA fan boy/ cage fighter" or whatever you want call it could kill you.
 I know its hard to accept that we can kick your ass, and sometimes we are 30,50 or 100 pounds lighter than most of people.
 Plus MMA people are way more health,conditioned and rarely use drugs.
 And don't let me start with all the g4p/ schmoo crap. should  I continue?
 Don't hate the player hate the game.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Nails on July 22, 2010, 12:09:01 PM
Because none of the twinks know how to BOX and will never have the guts and skills to learn the SWEET SCIENCE


(http://cincyfan.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2F8%2Fali.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 22, 2010, 12:18:40 PM
Because none of the twinks know how to BOX and will never have the guts and skills to learn the SWEET SCIENCE


(http://cincyfan.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2F8%2Fali.jpg)

x2

MMA is for nerds
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Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 12:26:52 PM
it's so easy to be called a MMA artist, even swede is an mma artist... no offence swede.. but you are :D (irony that I have to say no offence), all you have to do is few months of jiujitsu, some streetfighting, go to the cage with the small gloves and get your ass kicked, then you have deserved to be called a cage fighter :/


there is No way I would call myself anything close to a cage fighter without having a a few fights under my belt.

And neither should anyone else. Its called MMA not "training to be a cagefighter"

And I doubt any of these fuckers are training hard. Serious mma training is a fuckign nightmare lol. and I havent trained it Seriously just 2 times a week
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Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 12:28:48 PM
Because none of the twinks know how to BOX and will never have the guts and skills to learn the SWEET SCIENCE


(http://cincyfan.com/image.axd?picture=2009%2F8%2Fali.jpg)



 Whats the oldest type of fighting/martial arts?
 Hint..."Smooth Art."

 Btw: How many Cro Cop kicks those legs could  handle?
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 12:35:10 PM


one problem i have with these mma wanna be's is the shit they do that they think is goin to help them be a better fighter 

the number one thing i hate is the "speed bag". what the fuck is this contrapment for? hahaha. you will never ever punch with the side of your fist, and you never have to punch in some silly rythm either.

if an mma dude is serious, he would stand in front of a heavy bag half the day, and the other half he would take the place of the heavy bag and let people beat up on him to build his tolerance.

cardio is great, especially when two guys are close to even matched... but these guys miss the point. its about how hard you can get hit and keep moving... and how hard you can hit. those two factors alone determine 99% of all fights.



Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 12:43:25 PM

the number one thing i hate is the "speed bag". what the fuck is this contrapment for? hahaha. you will never ever punch with the side of your fist, and you never have to punch in some silly rythm either.





I have never ever seen a MMA guy hit the speed bag even once, only boxers..

Link me to some of these videos..

and Im no boxer but Im guessing it helps with cordination and muscle endurance etc.

I have no idea why you are drawn to these threads when its apparent that you know absolutly Nothing..,?

if an mma dude is serious, he would stand in front of a heavy bag half the day, and the other half he would take the place of the heavy bag and let people beat up on him to build his tolerance.

How the fuck would Just hitting a bag benefit a MMA guy?!?! He would GAS within 15 sec in his real fight.
Endurance for wrestling is a whole other story           which you should know!!  are you just playing stupid or what? :)

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 12:49:23 PM


 Whats the oldest type of fighting/martial arts?
 Hint..."Smooth Art."

 Btw: How many Cro Cop kicks those legs could  handle?

0.2
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 12:52:21 PM
I have never ever seen a MMA guy hit the speed bag even once, only boxers..

Link me to some of these videos..

and Im no boxer but Im guessing it helps with cordination and muscle endurance etc.

I have no idea why you are drawn to these threads when its apparent that you know absolutly Nothing..,?

How the fuck would Just hitting a bag benefit a MMA guy?!?! He would GAS within 15 sec in his real fight.
Endurance for wrestling is a whole other story           which you should know!!  are you just playing stupid or what? :)


what is fighting, whether mma or boxing? you are striking the other person. what is a heavy bag? an imitation of a human body to strengthen your punches/kicks with.

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Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 12:57:55 PM
what is fighting, whether mma or boxing? you are striking the other person. what is a heavy bag? an imitation of a human body to strengthen your punches/kicks with.


haha, yeah just punch the heavy bag nothing else is needed lol.

Ofc they train by kicking/punching a heavy bag but its a Minimum part of the puzzle. so to say that all a mma guy should do it punch the heavy bag and takes hits is so fuckign retarded its not even funny.



.....you.....should....k now....that
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Post by: Hulkotron on July 22, 2010, 01:03:17 PM
Cage fighting in his spare time, huh?  Oh brother..."Yeah, I've got a few hours to kill, think I'll go roll around with Jermaine in my underwear..."

Haha, this post is not getting enough love!

Literally everyone I have ever met that is a fan of or participates in or pretends to participate in "mixed martial arts" or "cage fighting" is a douchebag.
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Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 01:05:28 PM
Haha, this post is not getting enough love!

Literally everyone I have ever met that is a fan of or participates in or pretends to participate in "mixed martial arts" or "cage fighting" is a douchebag.

Do you live in america?
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Post by: Nirvana on July 22, 2010, 01:11:35 PM
just like bodybuilding, their are plenty of people in gyms and on steroids. but 99% never become shit.
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Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 01:12:00 PM
haha, yeah just punch the heavy bag nothing else is needed lol.

Ofc they train by kicking/punching a heavy bag but its a Minimum part of the puzzle. so to say that all a mma guy should do it punch the heavy bag and takes hits is so fuckign retarded its not even funny.



.....you.....should....k now....that
you assumed all i meant was punching. mma is obviously not limited to hands alone. the hevay bag would be used to develope power and speed with both arms, from every angle, and both legs from every angle. put the bag on a back and forth rocking motion for more resistance (kick/punch as the bag is swinging towards you) or  to simulate a moving opponent.

of course live one-on-one fighting would be another component of training.

if you want to punch, practice punching. if you want to shoot a basketball, practice shooting a basketball. if you want to play guitar, practice the guitar. but if you want to fight MMA then you need to practice long distance running, sprints, aerobics, gymnastics, and build up your "core strength".. ???

no..... fighting, like everything else, is mastered by practice of the basics. what is the basic to fighting? punching, kicking, and being able to take a punch/kick.

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Post by: 2ND COMING on July 22, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
What about those meatheads wearing those ridiculous t shirts?
 I think most of of people are just jealous, since a "MMA fan boy/ cage fighter" or whatever you want call it could kill you.
 I know its hard to accept that we can kick your ass, and sometimes we are 30,50 or 100 pounds lighter than most of people.
 Plus MMA people are way more health,conditioned and rarely use drugs.
 And don't let me start with all the g4p/ schmoo crap. should  I continue?
 Don't hate the player hate the game.


...BWAHAHAHAHA

I almost thought you were trolling for a sec. but your serious. Freaking classic right here!  :o :D
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Post by: K-1 on July 22, 2010, 01:14:48 PM
I have never ever seen a MMA guy hit the speed bag even once, only boxers..

Link me to some of these videos..

and Im no boxer but Im guessing it helps with cordination and muscle endurance etc.

I have no idea why you are drawn to these threads when its apparent that you know absolutly Nothing..,?

How the fuck would Just hitting a bag benefit a MMA guy?!?! He would GAS within 15 sec in his real fight.
Endurance for wrestling is a whole other story           which you should know!!  are you just playing stupid or what? :)



you are correct.
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Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 01:18:08 PM
you assumed all i meant was punching. mma is obviously not limited to hands alone. the hevay bag would be used to develope power and speed with both arms, from every angle, and both legs from every angle. put the bag on a back and forth rocking motion for more resistance (kick/punch as the bag is swinging towards you) or  to simulate a moving opponent.

we are still talking about MMA correct?

the hardest part of mma is muscle endurance / cardio training, which you get from wrestling and alot of circle station training or whatever its called..

only using a heavybag would result in you gassing within a few seconds after someone presses you against the cage and you try and defend it..
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Post by: tbombz on July 22, 2010, 01:22:48 PM
we are still talking about MMA correct?

the hardest part of mma is muscle endurance / cardio training, which you get from wrestling and alot of circle station training or whatever its called..

only using a heavybag would result in you gassing within a few seconds after someone presses you against the cage and you try and defend it..
i spent 5 years of my childhood wrsetling both freestyle and greco roman. wrestling, like mma, is only about endurance if the two guys are evenly matched and not very aggressive.

the "hardest part" about mma would depend on who you were fighting. if the guy was super fast, then the hardest part would be being able to land a blow on him. if the guy was super strong the hardest part would be getting hit by him, if the guy was like rocky and could take a million of your hardest hits then the challenge is walkign out alive.

its all about how hard you can hit and how hard of a hit you can take..  speed can play into it, but this isnt built by endurance cardio
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Post by: _bruce_ on July 22, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
The best fighters are often the most mellow fellas, so nothing to worry.
The wannabes will have their balls crushed in the weight stack.
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Post by: CalvinH on July 22, 2010, 01:28:07 PM
Haha, this post is not getting enough love!

Literally everyone I have ever met that is a fan of or participates in or pretends to participate in "mixed martial arts" or "cage fighting" is a douchebag.


 ;D
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Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 01:30:53 PM
like mma, is only about endurance if the two guys are evenly matched and not very aggressive.

seriously, I think you're just acting retarded.

So If I was an AGRESSIVE fighter and tried to FINISH the fight hey lets take Carwin vs Lesnar for example, then Endurance doesn't matter right? thats why carwin gassed his fucking ass off right?

stick to talking about aas bro.
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Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 01:37:17 PM
I am short and buff... Now that bodybuilding is not popular, I have no choice but to become a cage fighter...

QFT. If you walk around jacked people just laugh and think steroids, oil and thongs. Put on a TapOut shirt, sport some tribal tats, maybe shave your head and mean mug people and people think you're a cage fighter. Much higher up the food chain than a bodybuilder.
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Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 01:46:10 PM
I'll give boxing this: even at the height of it's popularity boxing never ever produced the douche bags that MMA did and does. No one who was not actually a boxer ever paraded themselves around in public as such. In fact, there was no way anyone would know you were even a serious boxer unless they knew you personally or were asked how you got that black eye.

I'm a big fan of MMA and sat in the same room (many other students were there) when Rorion talked about bringing the Vale Tudo-like fights they had in Brasil over to the US. The beginning of the UFC. At that time it was just the open challenge where guys from other schools would come over to fight and if they won they would get $10,000.

Never did anyone imagine how popular it would get and how a new breed of douche bags would be created.
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Post by: Mussolini on July 22, 2010, 02:08:34 PM
I covered this in a diff thread but I will re-post:

MMA is a rag tag bunch of misfits who couldn't cut it in boxing, football, or wrestling. Typically guys with a chip on their shoulder. They still have "something to prove" They literally "support" the industry not only as participants but also fans .

Take a moment and think of the type guys you see wearing tap out and monarchy shit. Shaved heads, covered in tats, go-tees, juiced up, no college degrees, low level jobs ( if any).
Another key component is that the MMA fan boys will take it VERY PERSONAL if you make a dig on MMA. For what ever reason they get very offended.

Why is this? I will tell you why, because it is their identity! Latching onto MMA by watching PAY-Per view fights, wearing the Tap out shit, shaved head , talking about diff fighting styles ( but never actually practicing them ) gives them a sense of identity.

Since many of these types have a low self esteem, "short mans complex" or chip on their shoulder, the Bad ass tuff guy , brusier persona that goes along with the MMA industry serves its purpose by giviing these wanna bees something to cling to. They adopt it as their M.O. , their identity, what people know them as, etc. In the end Resulting is a pathetic , silly joke of a person.




TapOut shirts are gay and I agree with your post to an extent but dont think it speaks for every MMArtist, or even the majority. After university the only vessel I had to utilize my wrestling skills was MMA. I wasnt good enough to make the olympic team but I was decent enough to make the squad every year so does that make me "somone who couldnt cut it in wrestling"? Maybe, maybe not but as it stand there is no money in wrestling so MMA gives even the elite wrestlers a chance to cash in on their skills. For myself, taking an MMA fight 1-2 times a year keeps me motivated to stay in shape and eat healthy, and it is quite a rush being in the cage, thats for sure. I can't speak for anyone other than myself though. As a side note, I think Anyone who has to brag to people that they are an "mma fighter" and wears tapout clothing fits the billl that you describe in your post.
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Post by: MindSpin on July 22, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
I have never ever seen a MMA guy hit the speed bag even once, only boxers..

Link me to some of these videos..

and Im no boxer but Im guessing it helps with cordination and muscle endurance etc.

I have no idea why you are drawn to these threads when its apparent that you know absolutly Nothing..,?

How the fuck would Just hitting a bag benefit a MMA guy?!?! He would GAS within 15 sec in his real fight.
Endurance for wrestling is a whole other story           which you should know!!  are you just playing stupid or what? :)



Interesting you mention that.  In my Muay Thai class, we work on the speed bag all the time, along with hitting pads, heavy bags and sparing.  We're not just training to punch, but also to elbow, knee & kick.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: MindSpin on July 22, 2010, 02:43:05 PM
I covered this in a diff thread but I will re-post:

MMA is a rag tag bunch of misfits who couldn't cut it in boxing, football, or wrestling. Typically guys with a chip on their shoulder. They still have "something to prove" They literally "support" the industry not only as participants but also fans .

Take a moment and think of the type guys you see wearing tap out and monarchy shit. Shaved heads, covered in tats, go-tees, juiced up, no college degrees, low level jobs ( if any).
Another key component is that the MMA fan boys will take it VERY PERSONAL if you make a dig on MMA. For what ever reason they get very offended.

Why is this? I will tell you why, because it is their identity! Latching onto MMA by watching PAY-Per view fights, wearing the Tap out shit, shaved head , talking about diff fighting styles ( but never actually practicing them ) gives them a sense of identity.

Since many of these types have a low self esteem, "short mans complex" or chip on their shoulder, the Bad ass tuff guy , brusier persona that goes along with the MMA industry serves its purpose by giviing these wanna bees something to cling to. They adopt it as their M.O. , their identity, what people know them as, etc. In the end Resulting is a pathetic , silly joke of a person.



In my experience, most real MMA fighters, don't look like what you described.  My wrestling coach went to Iowa State university where he was a division 1 champ.  He is a college grad and has no tatoos.  My BJJ coach, also a college graduate is a BJJ black belt under gracie.  He owns his own gym and does well for himself.  My Muay Thai coach, also a college grad, is a full time cop.  

The guys I train with range in age from 18-50.  It's a mixed bag of people.  Some have extensive backgrounds in some form of martial arts and are trying to learn a new one.  Some wrestled in college and want to continue to compete.  Some are actually training to become "cage fighters".  Others, like me, are just a fan of MMA and enjoy learning it and practicing it.

I spent years training as a bodybuilder and I can tell you that the MMA gym rat is a whole different animal from the bodybuilding gym rat.  In a good way.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Croatch on July 22, 2010, 02:44:19 PM
Well, because anyone can do it.
Buy a Tapout shirt, go to your fighting class 3x a week...BOOM you're a fighter.

Much like pretending to be a bodybuilder and ingesting steroids.  ANYONE can do this.  Why do you think so many do?

Now, kicking ass in a gym on no drugs...careful, this requires actual work and genetics.  I don't recommend this to most people.
Off to the land of make believe, Gold's Gym.  Where everyone is a bber on a cycle, and nothing without.  Grrrr! haah

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: George Whorewell on July 22, 2010, 02:46:10 PM
I think that the characterization of aspiring Mixed Martial Artists given above is totally unfair. I would venture to guess that maybe 5-10% of the people you see wearing tap out shirts and telling total strangers they "cage fight" actually fight MMA.

There is a huge difference between cross training in your spare time or attending MMA classes two nights a week ( which you can do at any Tiger Schulmans) and actually fighting MMA as an amateur or professional.

The reason why it "appears" that everyone cage fights in their spare time, is because MMA has become very popular among the the most insecure demographic of the population-- Males between 17-30.

Anybody can look the part, but the reality is that most people, including those who train in traditional martial arts have never even been in a real fight before or taken a punch.

Guys who box, train in MMA or in other forms of competitive fighting are usually the anthiesis of the tap out douchebags you see walking around in the street or at bars trying to guillotine their pals. The same principle goes for anything in life where people like to run their mouths. Those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on July 22, 2010, 02:55:52 PM
So you equate how many pull ups somebody does with how they handle themselves in hand-to-hand combat?  Interesting...

From what I understand, pull up strength is crucial while trying to grab the opponent. It's an age old measurement used by wrestlers.

but you're not a boxer even after 5 years....

Care to explain what this means?

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: MindSpin on July 22, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
TapOut TUF Newbies are the equivalent of 150 pencil-neck geeks you see walking around with a Valeo belt, lifting gloves, Otomix shoes, 1980's parachute pants and a bodybuilding.com gym bag full of Muscle-Teck & BSN supps.  
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Man of Steel on July 22, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
My cousins new boyfriend - "I cage fight in my spare time"

The new guy at work "Im training to be a cage fighter"

The car dealer i went to Monday "I do a bit of the old cage fighting"

WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE!!!!????

I don't think it's much different then everyone getting their real estate license, attempting to master Texas Hold Em, the increase in people going to chef school because of the Food network, the non-stop flow of new hip hop "artists" and their own record labels and the never ending stream of non-celebrity celebrities on reality tv....it's the current it thing to do or be.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2010, 03:29:23 PM
My cousins new boyfriend - "I cage fight in my spare time"

The new guy at work "Im training to be a cage fighter"

The car dealer i went to Monday "I do a bit of the old cage fighting"

WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE!!!!????
Cage Fighting, MMA is the new "karate", or "nijutsu", or tae kwon do. Remember all of the Karate films oof the 70s and 80s and the "nijutsu" films of the 80s early 90s? Same deal. Or the Kim's Karate commericals, "Nobody Bothers Me---call US-1000...", same deal, same type of people. People want to belong, men want to be bad asses, especially in a society in which said men have been devalued, or are not making that much money, but it's presumed that everybody is making money. Being a badass "gets" respect--see something familiar? Just like bbing, most who get into it are insecure about it, and once they get big, then they have respect.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 03:40:15 PM
Interesting you mention that.  In my Muay Thai class, we work on the speed bag all the time, along with hitting pads, heavy bags and sparing.  We're not just training to punch, but also to elbow, knee & kick.

you train for a difference type of endurance as a mauy thai fighter vs a mma guy, and yes you added sparring which is what tbombz ignored to mention which is imo one of the most importatnt things in mma training. So JUST DOING PADS and no sparring would result in shit.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 03:42:51 PM
TapOut TUF Newbies are the equivalent of 150 pencil-neck geeks you see walking around with a Valeo belt, lifting gloves, Otomix shoes, 1980's parachute pants and a bodybuilding.com gym bag full of Muscle-Teck & BSN supps.  

Best post in the thread.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Parker on July 22, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
I don't think it's much different then everyone getting their real estate license, attempting to master Texas Hold Em, the increase in people going to chef school because of the Food network, the non-stop flow of new hip hop "artists" and their own record labels and the never ending stream of non-celebrity celebrities on reality tv....it's the current it thing to do or be.
Which basically means we've become a nation of "wannabes", instead of the real deal. It's another sign of our nation's decline. We focus on how people percieve us, our image, instead of how we perceive ourselves.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: buffdnet on July 22, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
He is certainly the angriest.... :-\
you may find me to be competitive in that area. fucking pricks
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: buffdnet on July 22, 2010, 03:58:08 PM
alot of the fanboys of mma, tapout wearing spike tv loving brock lesnar nut hugging, are into it because they are insecure about their ability to defend themselves.  
same reason you do illegal steroids
Quote
the guys who actually fight, and actually train, and actually win.. their cool
me, im indifferent.
no your an admitted homosexual.
you don't have the balls to train hard let alone without drugs.
no balls to get a job and offer anything of worth to society.
oh but i forget, your a homosexuals so your worth to society will
always be less than, than that of human men.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: SS on July 22, 2010, 04:16:29 PM
I grapple with my cousin  from time to time, but he's only 12.


One time i was walking to the gym and I started to spar with a garbage can.


Next thing I know, sum bum wearing a tap out shirt jumped out of the can and whipped my fat ass.


I need to start shadow boxing more in the gym and wearing affliction shirts.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: _bruce_ on July 22, 2010, 04:17:57 PM
Which basically means we've become a nation of "wannabes", instead of the real deal. It's another sign of our nation's decline. We focus on how people percieve us, our image, instead of how we perceive ourselves.

The dream is over  :D
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 22, 2010, 04:21:48 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: dr.chimps on July 22, 2010, 04:24:44 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues
Like it. It's less interest for me, than need. I mean, you guys wanna fight? Cool. I'll be playing ball and then sitting with the crew at a patio. 
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: ag2 on July 22, 2010, 04:27:07 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues


How dare you say that  >:(

Wanna fight about it ?  ;)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Shockwave on July 22, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues
No offense Groink, but werent you the guy that started that thread about how its nice to be big and intimidating looking, and how you enjoyed being large and having people think you were a tough guy?  ;D
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: CalvinH on July 22, 2010, 04:49:18 PM
Like it. It's less interest for me, than need. I mean, you guys wanna fight? Cool. I'll be playing ball and then sitting with the crew at a patio. 


I've got the first round 8)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: MindSpin on July 22, 2010, 04:52:59 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues

You sound a bit insecure yourself.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
In my experience, most real MMA fighters, don't look like what you described.  My wrestling coach went to Iowa State university where he was a division 1 champ.  He is a college grad and has no tatoos.  My BJJ coach, also a college graduate is a BJJ black belt under gracie.  He owns his own gym and does well for himself.  My Muay Thai coach, also a college grad, is a full time cop.  

The guys I train with range in age from 18-50.  It's a mixed bag of people.  Some have extensive backgrounds in some form of martial arts and are trying to learn a new one.  Some wrestled in college and want to continue to compete.  Some are actually training to become "cage fighters".  Others, like me, are just a fan of MMA and enjoy learning it and practicing it.

I spent years training as a bodybuilder and I can tell you that the MMA gym rat is a whole different animal from the bodybuilding gym rat.  In a good way.

Mindspin, who is your BJJ instructor and what Gracie gave him his BB? What is the name of his school and where is it located?
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 22, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
No offense Groink, but werent you the guy that started that thread about how its nice to be big and intimidating looking, and how you enjoyed being large and having people think you were a tough guy?  ;D

Sure did.... ;D

But i don't spend hours in the gym practicing how to choke people and put them in "triangles"

these people are the same geeks that practiced their "nunchucks" as a kid...In case they ever get attacked by a gang of martial artists in the street  ::) ::)


I simply stated that I enjoyed the intimidation factor that comes with being a big dude,it's an ego-stroke..... I haven't had a fight in 15 years
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Mussolini on July 22, 2010, 05:35:43 PM
MMA is for dildos and homos, no need to discuss any further.

Why any man over the age of 18 feels the need to be a "tough guy" is beyond me....epic insecurity issues

The thing is most of the top fighters don't walk around thinking their "tough guys". The same argument can be said for football, hockey or any other contact sport. They all have guy who think their tough or macho.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 06:24:17 PM
The thing is most of the top fighters don't walk around thinking their "tough guys". The same argument can be said for football, hockey or any other contact sport. They all have guy who think their tough or macho.


 Yeah!!! but we have that thing called "Adrenaline".
 And the adrenaline from you going to gym and rolling/sparring, its not the same adrenaline like fighting in the streets" picking up with another guy" or fighting in the ring? cage whatever.
 Sometimes you woke up with your left foot. "having a bad day" and shit happens. well in that case you're looking for shit.  ;D lol.
 But martial arts its not about fight, its about control, "control yourself."
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Shockwave on July 22, 2010, 06:29:50 PM

 Yeah!!! but we have that thing called "Adrenaline".
 And the adrenaline from you going to gym and rolling/sparring, its not the same adrenaline like fighting in the streets" picking up with another guy" or fighting in the ring? cage whatever.
 Sometimes you woke up with your left foot. "having a bad day" and shit happens. well in that case you're looking for shit.  ;D lol.
 But martial arts its not about fight, its about control, "control yourself."
Im having a hard time deciphering this post, but I think for the most part I agree with you.  ???
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 06:30:53 PM

  
 But martial arts its not about fight, its about control, "control yourself."

Aren't you from Brasil? LOL, you guys have to fight going and coming from school. You have to be ready to fight every time you step out your door. Give a guy a mean look and fists will start flying. Brasil is a fighting culture. That's why they're so damn tough. Control? LOL. Maybe Side Control for some ground and pound.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 06:37:38 PM
Im having a hard time deciphering this post, but I think for the most part I agree with you.  ???


 I'm sorry for my English.
 Will try my best next time. ;)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Shockwave on July 22, 2010, 06:40:07 PM

 I'm sorry for my English.
 Will try my best next time. ;)
Usually your english is near flawless, I was just trying to decipher "its not the same adrenaline like fighting in the streets" picking up with another guy" or fighting in the ring? cage whatever" part. lol.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 06:42:05 PM
Aren't you from Brasil? LOL, you guys have to fight going and coming from school. You have to be ready to fight every time you step out your door. Give a guy a mean look and fists will start flying. Brasil is a fighting culture. That's why they're so damn tough. Control? LOL. Maybe Side Control for some ground and pound.

 When you have some degree in martial arts, you change a little bit.
 And. yes Brazil its about fighting. you don't talk sh*t to people in the streets.
 If you do... be ready. or be a good BJJ fighter.
 And don't call the police, be a man. the police will only show up" if they show up" just to place the bets.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2010, 06:48:24 PM
If you haven't grown up fighting in MMA, then anyone over the age of 35 who decides to get into it has some serious issues. And it gets worse if anyone over the age of 35 and is somewhat successful financially decides to roll around on the ground with kids. These types of guys should be out turning there million dollar fortune into 20 million/50 million/100 million. Not playing tuff guy/grab ass on the mat with kids.  When you are under the age of 30, you are supposed to think the world revolves around you and only you. You should want to kick some ass, wear retarded clothes and fuck everything and anything.

I think Mindspin is only 28 so he is ok at this point.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
When you have some degree in martial arts, you change a little bit.
 And. yes Brazil its about fighting. you don't talk sh*t to people in the streets.
 If you do... be ready. or be a good BJJ fighter.
 And don't call the police, be a man. the police will only show up" if they show up" just to place the bets.

I think it depends on the person. Remember that monster Ryan Gracie? Use to walk down the streets and in clubs like he owned the place always looking for someone to put a beating on. His brother Ralph is also a thug. How Renzo turned out the way he did is a mystery. The most decent and honorable man you'll ever meet.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
I think it depends on the person. Remember that monster Ryan Gracie? Use to walk down the streets and in clubs like he owned the place always looking for someone to put a beating on. His brother Ralph is also a thug. How Renzo turned out the way he did is a mystery. The most decent and honorable man you'll ever meet.

x2. Anyone who says fighters don't look for fights is either lying or don't get out much.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 06:53:19 PM
Usually your english is near flawless, I was just trying to decipher "its not the same adrenaline like fighting in the streets" picking up with another guy" or fighting in the ring? cage whatever" part. lol.

 Let me see if i can explain you better.
 The adrenaline in the gym. you know that probably you're not going to get hurt, maybe a little bit.
 The adrenaline in the ring/cage. you will get hurt, but there's some rules.
 In the streets? that's the real deal there's no rules everything goes. so basically you're just trying to prove to yourself that you can handle it. imagine someone going out at night or during the day hunting for trouble.
 And when you're hunting, you should always  look for a big prey."don't be a coward" to kill a dove does not give enough/or good adrenaline.
  Did I sound a little  psycho? hope not. ;D lol


 * Pick someone that will give you a really hard  " good time" .
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
I think it depends on the person. Remember that monster Ryan Gracie? Use to walk down the streets and in clubs like he owned the place always looking for someone to put a beating on. His brother Ralph is also a thug. How Renzo turned out the way he did is a mystery. The most decent and honorable man you'll ever meet.

awesome stories keep em coming
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 06:58:38 PM
x2. Anyone who says fighters don't look for fights is either lying or don't get out much.

There's a difference between looking for fights and not backing down when a challenge is made or stepping up when you see someone is doing something wrong.
 
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 22, 2010, 07:01:17 PM
x2. Anyone who says fighters don't look for fights is either lying or don't get out much.

there are a few fighters in the ufc that claimed to never been in a streetfight in their entire life.

Krystof is one of them.

(http://www.bestmmatorrents.com/profiles/images-485.jpeg)

I had one friend that was a good muy thai fighter , and when he was out never looked for fights etc, super friendly dude
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on July 22, 2010, 07:06:43 PM
there are a few fighters in the ufc that claimed to never been in a streetfight in their entire life.

Krystof is one of them.

(http://www.bestmmatorrents.com/profiles/images-485.jpeg)

I had one friend that was a good muy thai fighter , and when he was out never looked for fights etc, super friendly dude


 Bullshit...they all fight. not like the wannabe's,but they do.

 You don't see or heard about top MMA fighters, fighting in the streets  because . how many people would start sh*t with them?
 Would you start sh*t with Anderson Silva in a bar?
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 07:08:35 PM
there are a few fighters in the ufc that claimed to never been in a streetfight in their entire life.

Krystof is one of them.

(http://www.bestmmatorrents.com/profiles/images-485.jpeg)

I had one friend that was a good muy thai fighter , and when he was out never looked for fights etc, super friendly dude

Yeah, I don't agree with ab snowman at all. In fact, during the days when I was training hardcore the last thing I wanted to do was get in a street fight. I was just too damn tired and didn't want to risks getting hurt.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 22, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
Yeah, I don't agree with ab snowman at all. In fact, during the days when I was training hardcore the last thing I wanted to do was get in a street fight. I was just too damn tired and didn't want to risks getting hurt.


most of these fighters who go clubbing get their ass kissed by tons of females and males. And most of them also think its appropriate to hit on almost any girl/woman in the place regardless if the the "said" girl is with a guy(boyfriend/husband). That in itself is grounds for starting a fight in most places. However most in "their" group won't see it that way. Its disrespect and its fucking rampant with "so called "fighters".
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Natural Man on July 22, 2010, 08:04:32 PM
there are a few fighters in the ufc that claimed to never been in a streetfight in their entire life.

Krystof is one of them.

(http://www.bestmmatorrents.com/profiles/images-485.jpeg)

I had one friend that was a good muy thai fighter , and when he was out never looked for fights etc, super friendly dude

your fascination for tatooed half naked muscular white men is disturbing.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Nirvana on July 22, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
Sure did.... ;D

But i don't spend hours in the gym practicing how to choke people and put them in "triangles"

these people are the same geeks that practiced their "nunchucks" as a kid...In case they ever get attacked by a gang of martial artists in the street  ::) ::)


I simply stated that I enjoyed the intimidation factor that comes with being a big dude,it's an ego-stroke..... I haven't had a fight in 15 years
the old man used to say "it's better to weigh 260 and look like you can beat everyones ass, than to weigh 160 and actually have to go around doing it"
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 22, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
most of these fighters who go clubbing get their ass kissed by tons of females and males. And most of them also think its appropriate to hit on almost any girl/woman in the place regardless if the the "said" girl is with a guy(boyfriend/husband). That in itself is grounds for starting a fight in most places. However most in "their" group won't see it that way. Its disrespect and its fucking rampant with "so called "fighters".

Well, if you're getting your ass whipped by the average Joe in a bar you ain't no fighter. I'm talking about the guy who is in the gym everyday training, get his ass handed to him left and right, and ending the session on your back, soaked with sweat and sucking wind.

I can assure that if you ever met Renzo Gracie, the number one warrior of the family from a family of warriors who always steps up, you would never know he was even a fighter let alone one who looks for fights.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 23, 2010, 01:32:49 AM
there are a few fighters in the ufc that claimed to never been in a streetfight in their entire life.

Krystof is one of them.

(http://www.bestmmatorrents.com/profiles/images-485.jpeg)

I had one friend that was a good muy thai fighter , and when he was out never looked for fights etc, super friendly dude

Maybe that's why he sucks so bad and can't win a fight... lol nice ears on dumbo btw.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 23, 2010, 02:18:09 AM
I think it depends on the person. Remember that monster Ryan Gracie? Use to walk down the streets and in clubs like he owned the place always looking for someone to put a beating on. His brother Ralph is also a thug. How Renzo turned out the way he did is a mystery. The most decent and honorable man you'll ever meet.

Tell him to come to London and do that in one of Terry Adams 20 or so clubs, he ll be dead within minutes.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2010, 02:48:30 AM
Tell him to come to London and do that in one of Terry Adams 20 or so clubs, he ll be dead within minutes.

I'm sure he'd be dead within minutes if he met up with you. But truth is others beat you to it as he's burning in hell at this very moment. In a way he's lucky that he never crossed your path in London. You're quite a beast.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2010, 02:58:11 AM
Tell him to come to London and do that in one of Terry Adams 20 or so clubs, he ll be dead within minutes.

One on one, none of your "mates" would have had a prayer against Ryan. What he did in the ring and cage doesn't show what he did on the streets. And if you want to go posse for posse, again, London has some real tough guys but it's not Brasil.
 
Either way you lose.

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 23, 2010, 04:05:05 AM
your fascination for tatooed half naked muscular white men is disturbing.

not anywhere near as disturbing as your fascination with ME lol.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: doison on July 23, 2010, 04:20:53 AM
My cousins new boyfriend - "I cage fight in my spare time"

The new guy at work "Im training to be a cage fighter"

The car dealer i went to Monday "I do a bit of the old cage fighting"

WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE!!!!????

I'll fucking punch you in a cage if I ever see you in person.  Believe that.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 23, 2010, 04:24:51 AM
One on one, none of your "mates" would have had a prayer against Ryan. What he did in the ring and cage doesn't show what he did on the streets. And if you want to go posse for posse, again, London has some real tough guys but it's not Brasil.
 
Either way you lose.



Hahah Brazil where everyone wants to play soccer!hahaaha Actually i guarntee you i know one guy who would kill Ryan in seconds, hes a black guy the size of a gorilla - Gary Lloyd Nelson.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 23, 2010, 04:26:42 AM
Our hatred for each other aside, honestly how would you reckon he d fare against Fedor, Brock or Carwin?
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 23, 2010, 04:27:48 AM
I'll fucking punch you in a cage if I ever see you in person.  Believe that.

Excuse me?Who are you? Yeh ok let me know when you re in London and we ll meet.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: DK II on July 23, 2010, 04:31:09 AM
I'm sure he'd be dead within minutes if he met up with you. But truth is others beat you to it as he's burning in hell at this very moment. In a way he's lucky that he never crossed your path in London. You're quite a beast.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/15/113/554918436/n554918436_103644_9266.jpg)

Brutal big head and short arms...  :o :o
(http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/I/IL/ILU/ILUVSONICSHADOW/1249138783_7284_full.jpeg)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 23, 2010, 04:31:15 AM
One on one, none of your "mates" would have had a prayer against Ryan. What he did in the ring and cage doesn't show what he did on the streets. And if you want to go posse for posse, again, London has some real tough guys but it's not Brasil.
 
Either way you lose.



1:45 beautiful
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Evo on July 23, 2010, 05:03:20 AM
most of these fighters who go clubbing get their ass kissed by tons of females and males. And most of them also think its appropriate to hit on almost any girl/woman in the place regardless if the the "said" girl is with a guy(boyfriend/husband). That in itself is grounds for starting a fight in most places. However most in "their" group won't see it that way. Its disrespect and its fucking rampant with "so called "fighters".

I see these little twinks most weekends working on the door.  Every c unt who talks to me on the door is either a cage fighter or has a brother/friend/cousin who is bigger than me....I normally ask the 'cage fighter' what weight they fight at and they soon shut up.

It gets better when you chuck one of the out, I've had these 'cage fighters' rip their tops off and start limbering up for a fight with me, had c unts try to put me in arm bars lol and try and intimidate me with their impressive 3 win streak! oooooooo! Most of them are at least 4 stone lighter than me and object to being thrown around.

 ::)

They are entertaining if nothing else.    
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: devilsmile on July 23, 2010, 05:11:19 AM
I see these little twinks most weekends working on the door.  Every c unt who talks to me on the door is either a cage fighter or has a brother/friend/cousin who is bigger than me....I normally ask the 'cage fighter' what weight they fight at and they soon shut up.

It gets better when you chuck one of the out, I've had these 'cage fighters' rip their tops off and start limbering up for a fight with me, had c unts try to put me in arm bars lol and try and intimidate me with their impressive 3 win streak! oooooooo! Most of them are at least 4 stone lighter than me and object to being thrown around.

 ::)

They are entertaining if nothing else.    

it's more entertaining how one can lose 4 stones of weight if they stop using gear alltogether for only 1 month... it's sad  :D
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Evo on July 23, 2010, 05:16:50 AM
it's more entertaining how one can lose 4 stones of weight if they stop using gear alltogether for only 1 month... it's sad  :D

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: johnnynoname on July 23, 2010, 05:33:59 AM
I NEVER want/wanted to be a "cage figher"


however, when i was a teenager, I wanted to fight in PANCRASE.  Of course, that is when the fighters used to all wear tights and those AWESOME kickpads

seriously, all the old PANCRASE stuff (while most of it was "fixed"/ a "work") was amazing 
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 23, 2010, 05:42:17 AM
I NEVER want/wanted to be a "cage figher"


however, when i was a teenager, I wanted to fight in PANCRASE.  Of course, that is when the fighters used to all wear tights and those AWESOME kickpads

seriously, all the old PANCRASE stuff (while most of it was "fixed"/ a "work") was amazing 

and then you discovered the thong.... :-\
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: johnnynoname on July 23, 2010, 05:44:41 AM
and then you discovered the thong.... :-\

this is true but, now that i'm off of drugs and don't have a habit to support, I use my thong for good

I"m like Stallone's character in the movie "F.I.S.T"
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 23, 2010, 05:46:06 AM
this is true but, now that i'm off of drugs and don't have a habit to support, I use my thong for good

I"m like Stallone's character in the movie "F.I.S.T"


a heart of gold I tell ya.....a heart of gold....
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: johnnynoname on July 23, 2010, 05:48:21 AM

a heart of gold I tell ya.....a heart of gold....

a skin of chocolate I tell ya...a skin of chocolate..

that is my response to you haha


btw,  I'm watching this dvd comp called "jim cornette- the rookie years".......AMAZING!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: spinnis on July 23, 2010, 05:48:47 AM
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Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 23, 2010, 05:52:04 AM
a skin of chocolate I tell ya...a skin of chocolate..

that is my response to you haha


btw,  I'm watching this dvd comp called "jim cornette- the rookie years".......AMAZING!!!!!!

Going to the pool to work on my tan later..... ;D


Haven't heard about that one, but Cornette is a classic and a great mind for the business too. 

Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Parker on July 23, 2010, 05:55:11 AM
I NEVER want/wanted to be a "cage figher"


however, when i was a teenager, I wanted to fight in PANCRASE.  Of course, that is when the fighters used to all wear tights and those AWESOME kickpads

seriously, all the old PANCRASE stuff (while most of it was "fixed"/ a "work") was amazing 
You look like you'd be interested in Savate.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: doison on July 23, 2010, 05:57:11 AM
Excuse me?Who are you? Yeh ok let me know when you re in London and we ll meet.

I'm the man that's going to make you wash my clothes and cook me a ribeye steak with rice and a desert of my choosing after I beat your ass in a cage.

I'll be in London on August 30-September 5.  You set up the cage, I'll show up for my "knuckle warmup" followed by dinner and clean clothes.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pugalist666 on July 23, 2010, 06:03:21 AM
Excuse me?Who are you? Yeh ok let me know when you re in London and we ll meet.
you will meet his cock , with your mouth
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: johnnynoname on July 23, 2010, 06:12:49 AM
Going to the pool to work on my tan later..... ;D


Haven't heard about that one, but Cornette is a classic and a great mind for the business too. 



Carl Fergie= the REAL king of wrestling
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 23, 2010, 06:15:02 AM
Carl Fergie= the REAL king of wrestling

haha, oh man, you pull some out sometimes.....no homo....


Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Darren Avey on July 23, 2010, 07:37:49 AM
I'm the man that's going to make you wash my clothes and cook me a ribeye steak with rice and a desert of my choosing after I beat your ass in a cage.

I'll be in London on August 30-September 5.  You set up the cage, I'll show up for my "knuckle warmup" followed by dinner and clean clothes.

Im not a cage fighter, you can have it on the street though. Shardeloes Rd, Lewisham,Se14.

Not giving you my house number as i dont want you smashing my windows or anything childish like that.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=shardeloes%20rd%20brockley&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: MoralMan on July 23, 2010, 07:39:45 AM
1- Gary Nelson s serving 35 years for 2 murders.

2- Why on Earth would you head to South London which is a shit place, to fight someone you ve never met?
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 23, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
Im not a cage fighter, you can have it on the street though. Shardeloes Rd, Lewisham,Se14.

Not giving you my house number as i dont want you smashing my windows or anything childish like that.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=shardeloes%20rd%20brockley&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

LOL, we average about 2 of these internet tough guy callouts a year here on Getbig, complete with address and google maps link

:)
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Devon97 on July 23, 2010, 09:01:32 AM
In my experience, most real MMA fighters, don't look like what you described.  My wrestling coach went to Iowa State university where he was a division 1 champ.  He is a college grad and has no tatoos.  My BJJ coach, also a college graduate is a BJJ black belt under gracie.  He owns his own gym and does well for himself.  My Muay Thai coach, also a college grad, is a full time cop.  

The guys I train with range in age from 18-50.  It's a mixed bag of people.  Some have extensive backgrounds in some form of martial arts and are trying to learn a new one.  Some wrestled in college and want to continue to compete.  Some are actually training to become "cage fighters".  Others, like me, are just a fan of MMA and enjoy learning it and practicing it.

I spent years training as a bodybuilder and I can tell you that the MMA gym rat is a whole different animal from the bodybuilding gym rat.  In a good way.

Good point. I was referring to the clingers you see at the Arnold expo and the MMA gym rat. SHould Have made that more clear.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: doison on July 23, 2010, 09:10:58 AM
Im not a cage fighter, you can have it on the street though. Shardeloes Rd, Lewisham,Se14.

Not giving you my house number as i dont want you smashing my windows or anything childish like that.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=shardeloes%20rd%20brockley&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Tell you what, we'll make it an anonymous city like "Oak Crevice" in British Colombia.  We'll set up a cage and market the fight as the greatest thing in the world.  

Doison Awesome Guy Knucklefist vs. Fuckface Darren Avery!  
Live, August 25th "engage in the cage!"
Only on pay-per-view!  

I know a guy at Ticketmaster that could set it up.  We'll have to make it a decent show though, so try to toughen up beforehand.  

Do some yard work, maybe wrestle around with your little brother....whatever it takes for you to make it past the opening bell.  


I'm still going to make you do my laudry and cook my dinner, but you can keep whatever share of the ticket prices I feel like letting you have.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: SS on July 23, 2010, 09:36:27 AM
Sure did.... ;D

But i don't spend hours in the gym practicing how to choke people and put them in "triangles"

these people are the same geeks that practiced their "nunchucks" as a kid...In case they ever get attacked by a gang of martial artists in the street  ::) ::)


I simply stated that I enjoyed the intimidation factor that comes with being a big dude,it's an ego-stroke..... I haven't had a fight in 15 years
Meet me at the Hi-liter tonight and I can change all that ;D
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: MoralMan on July 23, 2010, 09:49:55 AM
You really a fighter Doison?  BTW Darrens full of shit funny enough i just saw him at a bus stop, he cant drive you see!30 and cant drive!!hahahaha
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2010, 12:00:35 PM
Our hatred for each other aside, honestly how would you reckon he d fare against Fedor, Brock or Carwin?

How come your big Black friend is not a pro fighter if he's so bad?

In answer to your question, Ryan Gracie was a monster. A thug, a rapist, and, likely, a murderer. He made a lot of enemies and only by virtue of being a Gracie was he able to live as long as he did though that didn't prevent him from being shot several times in his life and even having an contract put out on him.

As I  mentioned before, fate had finally caught up with him and he is now burning in hell.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2010, 12:03:29 PM
and then you discovered the thong.... :-\

LOL!



Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: pellius on July 23, 2010, 12:07:50 PM
Tell you what, we'll make it an anonymous city like "Oak Crevice" in British Colombia.  We'll set up a cage and market the fight as the greatest thing in the world.  

Doison Awesome Guy Knucklefist vs. Fuckface Darren Avery!  
Live, August 25th "engage in the cage!"
Only on pay-per-view!  

I know a guy at Ticketmaster that could set it up.  We'll have to make it a decent show though, so try to toughen up beforehand.  

Do some yard work, maybe wrestle around with your little brother....whatever it takes for you to make it past the opening bell.  


I'm still going to make you do my laudry and cook my dinner, but you can keep whatever share of the ticket prices I feel like letting you have.

This never gets old!

Where's Shipshiki when you need him.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: Jaime on July 23, 2010, 12:10:49 PM
How come your big Black friend is not a pro fighter if he's so bad?

In answer to your question, Ryan Gracie was a monster. A thug, a rapist, and, likely, a murderer. He made a lot of enemies and only by virtue of being a Gracie was he able to live as long as he did though that didn't prevent him from being shot several times in his life and even having an contract put out on him.

As I  mentioned before, fate had finally caught up with him and he is now burning in hell.


I wouldn't even talk to this Darren douche, he actually quotes other mens names when trying to talk tough. I know the areas and the people that he is talking about, he is nothing more than a little hanger on. No different than the demographic that this thread is talking about.


MMA for whatever reason does attract a huge ammount of douche fans. They were always out there, but now they are just easier to spot.
Title: Re: Why is everyone a "cage fighter?!"
Post by: SgtSpar on July 26, 2010, 08:37:58 PM
Meet me at the Hi-liter tonight and I can change all that ;D

I'd be up for that again:) 

You guys posting all these stereotypes should try getting on the mat or in the ring and actually trying what you're talking about.  Even an average MMA guy can beat the crap out of the barroom brawlers and "street fighters" that everyone seems to know.  Pellius is right, the guys that actually train aren't usually out starting fights, you get all that out of your system training.  After a couple of hours rolling or boxing, all you want to do is get something to eat and kick back.  I can tell you what DOES happen though.  If a guy that trains is out somewhere and someone else starts shit with him, a guy that trains every day to fight knows exactly what he can do, and he knows exactly how much the loud mouth shit talker can't do.  Instead of bantering back and forth about who is gonna kick whose ass and causing a big scene, people that train will actually fight instead of jawing.  For the record, I do have a shaved head, tattoos, and a goatee.  I'm also educated, have a good job as a database administrator, and would rather hang out with my girl or with friends and have a good time than beat up every shit-talking moron that presents himself.  Also, I wouldn't wear a Tapout or Affliction shirt if you put a gun to my head.  And Darren Avey gets the award for most clueless poster on any MMA thread.