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http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/14/the-view-bill-oreilly-whoopi-goldberg-joy-behar-barbara-walters/
Not a big fan of Bill but I like this video. I get Bill's point, but "Muslims" as a community did not attack us. Islamic extemists did. I do think the Muslim community deserves a lot of criticism, because they have never come out as a community and denounced the actions of 9-11.
Facts are like bugspray to libtards. See how they both storm off as soon as Bill presents some facts. Fuck both those sacks of fat shit.
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Fuck that right wing bible quoting religious fucking cunt
This guy is a fucking cancer I cannot wait until he dies a horrible painful death.
seriously
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Like I said I don't really care for him but I hate the other two libtard peices of shit way more.
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Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
Owned by Dawkings
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I loved when O Reilly was owned into oblivion by Stephen Colbert...lol
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Bunch of homos I'm trying to point of how pathetic the two bitchy ass woman are.
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/14/the-view-bill-oreilly-whoopi-goldberg-joy-behar-barbara-walters/
Not a big fan of Bill but I like this video. I get Bill's point, but "Muslims" as a community did not attack us. Islamic extemists did. I do think the Muslim community deserves a lot of criticism, because they have never come out as a community and denounced the actions of 9-11.
Facts are like bugspray to libtards. See how they both storm off as soon as Bill presents some facts. Fuck both those sacks of fat shit.
It was pretty poltically Incorrect , but he is 100% correct.
Fact is that it was a MUSLIM group of extremists that attacked.
He was careful to go on and say he was NOT saying all Musilims fit in his boat, but a few extreme ones did.
I am registered democrat, but hate it when anyone tries to defend or AVOID religion when it was part of the ideology of an attack.
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It's funny how democrats bury their heads in the sand as soon as someones race or religion comes up. They run off stage because they're both about to have a stroke they're so mad. The "My babie didn't do nuffin syndrome".
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Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
Owned by Dawkings
To me the topics of religion and sexuality are NON issues.
I am straight and also don't follow any religion or faith.
So long as NOBODY tries to force me to believe in GOD a certain way or tells me how to have sex.
I do have a problem with those that try to make sex or morality laws based on religion.
As for the 9/11 smosque site, if it was my call, I would say no religious group within a mile, period.
Freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion.
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It's funny how democrats bury their heads in the sand as soon as someones race or religion comes up. They run off stage because they're both about to have a stroke they're so mad. The "My babie didn't do nuffin syndrome".
I am a registered democrat and feel that Whoopie and Joy B were acting stupid.
When you can't even hear another resonable opinion, you don't live by the real law of freedom of speech.
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It was pretty poltically Incorrect , but he is 100% correct.
Fact is that it was a MUSLIM group of extremists that attacked.
He was careful to go on and say he was NOT saying all Musilims fit in his boat, but a few extreme ones did.
I am registered democrat, but hate it when anyone tries to defend or AVOID religion when it was part of the ideology of an attack.
You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
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You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
How many abortion climics have 3,000 FUCKING CIVILIANS IN THEM??
WAKE THE FUCK UP, ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM!!!!
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I hate all religions with equal gusto. I wish no churches, mosques or synagogues would be built from this day forth and the ones that are existing are to be turned into bakeries, restaurants, grocery stores, museums, libraries and gymnasiums.
With that said, I do not care where they build any of these places to fulfill their own stupidity. Our Constitution gives all religious lunatics that right and it also gives us rational atheists the right to call them all out on their extreme ignorance. So lets try and follow the Constitution for once.
Got that you religious lunatics and right wing Constitution haters?
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Oh yeah Meltdown! ;D
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You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
I am saying , shoot EVERY nutjob that kills and said "GOD MADE ME DO IT!"
I don't care if the are followers of Zod in Superman II
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To me the topics of religion and sexuality are NON issues.
I am straight and also don't follow any religion or faith.
So long as NOBODY tries to force me to believe in GOD a certain way or tells me how to have sex.
I do have a problem with those that try to make sex or morality laws based on religion.
As for the 9/11 smosque site, if it was my call, I would say no religious group within a mile, period.
Freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion.
+1
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Not a fan of Bill at all - but I actually agree with him on this - And I come from a Muslim Family - It was MUSLIM extremists who bombed the twin Towers, and I personally believe a Mosque should NOT be built at the planned site - just so not needed there!
But I have to disagree with the original poster Makavelli25 about one thing: Muslims leaders and communities all over the Middle East have dennounced the attacks countless times, believe me I've lived in the Middle East and have travelled to different places there.... just because you personally did not hear it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Many leaders of Muslim countries have come out with statements against these attacks and produced zero tolerance policies when it comes to extremism and terrorism.
Furthermore, I think The View is a terrible show (I've watched it a few times with my wife), because its run by a bunch of women who can't control their emotions, they are constantly inviting guests and then dissing them!!! Who does that? How do you invite someone and because you don't like their view you start to bash them and diss them, its ridiculous, eventually guests will stop coming to the show, so unprofessional. Whoopi and Joy should be fired for their actions!
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Fuck that right wing bible quoting religious fucking cunt
This guy is a fucking cancer I cannot wait until he dies a horrible painful death.
seriously
I totally agree, he talks over people, cuts them off, and tries to belittle them on his show, EVEYONE that agrees to be on his show should start ranting on and on until the camera man says cut and walk off his show
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Not a fan of Bill at all - but I actually agree with him on this - And I come from a Muslim Family - It was MUSLIM extremists who bombed the twin Towers, and I personally believe a Mosque should NOT be built at the planned site - just so not needed there!
But I have to disagree with the original poster Makavelli25 about one thing: Muslims leaders and communities all over the Middle East have dennounced the attacks countless times, believe me I've lived in the Middle East and have travelled to different places there.... just because you personally did not hear it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Many leaders of Muslim countries have come out with statements against these attacks and produced zero tolerance policies when it comes to extremism and terrorism.
Furthermore, I think The View is a terrible show (I've watched it a few times with my wife), because its run by a bunch of women who can't control their emotions, they are constantly inviting guests and then dissing them!!! Who does that? How do you invite someone and because you don't like their view you start to bash them and diss them, its ridiculous, eventually guests will stop coming to the show, so unprofessional. Whoopi and Joy should be fired for their actions!
They may as well change the name from "The View" to the " Menopause" ;)
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Fucking bitches screaming over each other. But Bill, what the fuck. This is not how democracy works. Just because a majority of people want something, it can't overrun the fucking law. ::) Grow the fuck up Bill.
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Liberals....hahahahahaha hahahahaha!
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Im not a big fan of Bill either, but I think he has a point. He shouldnt generalize all muslims though so I can understand the reaction, but a mosque near the world trade center is quite a slap in the face for Americans I must say... It should at least be moved to another location.
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You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
Yep, because you here about abortion clinics getting blown up every week. Nope, Muslim fanatics don't ever kill other religions based on religion, never, not once ::)
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Liberals....hahahahahahahahahahaha!
The real problem for me is trying to place everyone in a box with a label.
I am a democrat and don't belong to any church and am pro choice. BUT, I also served in the US marines, hate most gun laws and think welfare $$ is a joke.
The reality is that the hot button issues drown out the real key fiscal issues for the middle class working man.
Having a mosque near the 9/11 site or a gay couple getting married has very little actual impact on the avg person's life, so I culd care less about that crap.
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I always find it halarious when people compare Christians to muslims.
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Yep, because you here about abortion clinics getting blown up every week. Nope, Muslim fanatics don't ever kill other religions based on religion, never, not once ::)
A terror attack is an attack and I could care less why they did it.
If they are guilty, take 'em out back and shoot the bastard.
Tim McVay blew up the fed building 16 yrs ago and was a former Army Ranger...what a disgrace to the his country he tunred out to be.
I honestly think too much focus is on the "ideology" then WHAT they do.
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I always find it halarious when people compare Christians to muslims.
The only difference being, there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book. Because in the end it's the same shit about stoning and enslaving people for bullshit reasons.
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I always find it halarious when people compare Christians to muslims.
Me fucking to. You could hear Whoopi "but but Tim Mcviegh" right before she walked out. How many Christians would actually back up what Tim Mcveigh did. When we were attacked on 911 there was images of muslims jumping around dancing everywhere in the world including some parts of New Jersey.
And how can you compare a few radicals who kill abortion doctors to army of people who murder innocent civilians day in day out. Liberals get so butt hurt over the truth.
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Oh really...is that a blanket statement Klaus? Are you absolutely sure about that?
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Oh really...is that a blanket statement Klaus? Are you absolutely sure about that?
Absolutely sure.
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Where are the owl pics?
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The only difference being, there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book. Because in the end it's the same shit about stoning and enslaving people for bullshit reasons.
please provide some examples about Christian practicing stoning and enslaving people and I'll tell you if they are real Christians or not.. ;)
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Absolutely sure.
Stupid statement have you actually been to a christian church and sat through a sermon. They preach love you neighbor, take care of people who have less, help wherever and whenever you can. Live your life with a moral code and less bad things will happend to you. Put God first. Take care of your family. Be married before you have kids. All of these things lead to a productive life and a better society.
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Anyone who believes in make believe Gods, is an idiot.
The end.
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please provide some examples about Christian practicing stoning and enslaving people and I'll tell you if they are real Christians or not.. ;)
There aren't any examples, thus no true followers.
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Stupid statement have you actually been to a christian church and sat through a sermon. They preach love you neighbor, take care of people who have less, help wherever and whenever you can. Live your life with a moral code and less bad things will happend to you. Put God first. Take care of your family. Be married before you have kids. All of these things lead to a productive life and a better society.
that sounds like a church that I go to.. so far I have never heard anyone preaching about enslaving people or stone anyone who sinned in a Christian church.
Wherever Klaus have been / heard about slavery and stoning I can say it's not a Christian church at all. It's a cult organisation and they do not follow the Bible.. or he might have been mistakenly thinking the mosque is the church.
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There aren't any examples, thus no true followers.
LOL. They still don`t get it do they?
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No TA, you don't get it nor comprehend it, just keep believing your fallicy that something came from nothing.
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No TA, you don't get it nor comprehend it, just keep believing your fallicy that something came from nothing.
nobody should ever believe a "fallicy" because it would mean that you're not smart
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As much as i HATE bill that piece of shit, i hate whopies opinion on the muslim subject, someone rich white guy should buy a home next to her home and Cut his lawn in a KKK outfit she how she likes it
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You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
I actually agree with the gay mans opinion on this topic...
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“Islam did not attack the World Trade Center — Al Qaeda did,” Mayor Bloomberg
From a technical standpoint, Mayor Bloomberg is correct. In the sense that all of Islam did not get together in four airplanes and fly them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In that same sense, Japan did not attack Pearl Harbor, only a few hundred Japanese people did, under the command of the Japanese Air Force. So too, in that particular instance 19 Muslims, under the command of an international Muslim group hijacked the planes and killed over 3,000 people. But in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, the United States didn’t declare war on a few hundred Japanese pilots, or the Japanese air force. We declared war on Japan.
On 9/11, Al Qaeda did not act in the name of 19 people, or ten thousand or so followers. It acted in the name of Islam. And while anyone can claim to do anything in the name of Islam, Al Qaeda was not some random fringe group. Al Qaeda drew its ideological support from the Muslim Brotherhood, the largest Muslim political group in the world. It and its allies drew on financial support from the governments of some of the world’s largest and most influential Muslim countries in the world, including Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE. These are countries which compromise some 200 million Muslims.
Meanwhile the vast majority of Muslims in poll after poll agree with Al Qaeda’s goals, they only disagree with its methods. Since Al Qaeda’s methods are illegal, and support for them is a potentially prosecutable offense, it’s not surprising that this disjunction exists. But the fact that most Muslims support Al Qaeda’s goals, makes it impossible to argue that it is not representative of Muslims. Most Muslims see themselves as sharing Al Qaeda’s goals, they are just not prepared to openly say that they support its methods.
Those who dismiss Al Qaeda as unrepresentative of Islam, rarely like to talk about the support for its goals, only its methods. But the strong show of support for Al Qaeda’s goals, demonstrates why it is a popular organization in the Muslim world. And Al Qaeda’s goals are not non-violent, they involve the forcible application of Islamic law in Muslim countries that reduces non-Muslims and women to second class status. The vast majority of Muslims agree with Al Qaeda that America is the enemy and that the US should be forced out of Muslim countries. The majority agreed with pushing the US not to support Egypt, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Jordan… the endgame of which would be to allow Islamic groups to take them over. And finally the majority had positive or mixed feelings toward Bin Laden.
Al Qaeda attacked us on September 11, but they did so in the name of Islam. And their precedent was over a thousand years of Muslim violence against non-Muslims. A violence that has its scriptural source in the words of the Koran. No individual Islamic terrorist attack or group can be detached from those words and precedents. The history of the Middle East did not begin in 1917 or 1948 or 1992. But while liberals insist on talking about the context for terrorism, they are unwilling to listen to any context broader than their own local politics. And what they are most unwilling to hear is that Muslim regional and global violence predates anything relating to the United States or any European countries.
Muslim violence emerges from the firm belief that only Islam can be allowed to rule. Al Qaeda is only one of many such historical attempts to enforce that through violence. That is why Islam did attack us on September 11. One and a half billion did not board four planes. But ideologies do not need to board planes, they have followers who are willing to carry out violence in their name. Until Muslims reform Islam, and abandon their allegiance to an Islamic law that imposes inferiority on non-Muslims, they cannot divorce themselves from Al Qaeda or September 11.
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/14/the-view-bill-oreilly-whoopi-goldberg-joy-behar-barbara-walters/
Not a big fan of Bill but I like this video. I get Bill's point, but "Muslims" as a community did not attack us. Islamic extemists did. I do think the Muslim community deserves a lot of criticism, because they have never come out as a community and denounced the actions of 9-11.
Facts are like bugspray to libtards. See how they both storm off as soon as Bill presents some facts. Fuck both those sacks of fat shit.
They have done that a million times in denouncing the actions of 9-11...its just that no media outlet is reporting it
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They have done that a million times in denouncing the actions of 9-11...its just that no media outlet is reporting it
Vince please assist these Muslims in setting up a Free youtube account as i would like to see this apology from them
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I hate all religions with equal gusto. I wish no churches, mosques or synagogues would be built from this day forth and the ones that are existing are to be turned into bakeries, restaurants, grocery stores, museums, libraries and gymnasiums.
With that said, I do not care where they build any of these places to fulfill their own stupidity. Our Constitution gives all religious lunatics that right and it also gives us rational atheists the right to call them all out on their extreme ignorance. So lets try and follow the Constitution for once.
Got that you religious lunatics and right wing Constitution haters?
Idiot! No one is questioning their right to build a mosques but rather is it appropriate or the right thing to do. You have the right to curse your parents but is it appropriate or the right thing to do? Should the KKK set up a club house in Watts?
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Liberalism is an emotion based ideology. The terrorist were self proclaimed Muslims, killed in the name of Islam and was not condemned but praised by the majority of the Muslim community. Sure they were extremist. But they were Muslims. Some may think they weren't practicing true Islam but how would we know? The Muslim leaders didn't condemn them. I guess if O'Reily wanted to be more sensitive, as the Muslims are not being, he should have said "extremist." He didn't. He's not Mr. Sensitivity. Too bad. But it just goes to show what babies are when liberals don't get their way. It's all based on emotion. How they feel about something. They just emote. Listen to guys like Stark: "... can't wait until he dies a horrible painful death." Or Klaus, someone who is not a Christian but claims to be absolutely sure he knows what's in every Christian's heart: "there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book." Even though in every Christian service the Bible is read. "...it's the same shit about stoning and enslaving people for bullshit reasons" even though it was Christians that led the charge to eliminate slavery.
No argument or thoughtful rebuttals, just emote. Props to Barbara Walters for showing some class and dignity.
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Idiot! No one is questioning their right to build a mosques but rather is it appropriate or the right thing to do. You have the right to curse your parents but is it appropriate or the right thing to do? Should the KKK set up a club house in Watts?
KKK can set up anywhere they want. Just like I fully support the Neo Nazis right to March in Skokie as they did.
I don`t believe building ANY church of ANY kind of ANY religion ANYWHERE is the "Right" thing to do. It sure as fuck is not as it only teaches ignorance and undermines rationality, reason and Science. It also creates and teaches Sectarian irrational hate.
I would NEVER take away their Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion or Freedom of Speech or their rights bound by the Constitution.
You fucking dumbass Republicans just wipe your ass with the Constitution yet try to claim that you support it or want to uphold it. You don`t. You sir, are a moron.
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Liberalism is an emotion based ideology. The terrorist were self proclaimed Muslims, killed in the name of Islam and was not condemned but praised by the majority of the Muslim community. Sure they were extremist. But they were Muslims. Some may think they weren't practicing true Islam but how would we know? The Muslim leaders didn't condemn them. I guess if O'Reily wanted to be more sensitive, as the Muslims are not being, he should have said "extremist." He didn't. He's not Mr. Sensitivity. Too bad. But it just goes to show what babies are when liberals don't get their way. It's all based on emotion. How they feel about something. They just emote. Listen to guys like Stark: "... can't wait until he dies a horrible painful death." Or Klaus, someone who is not a Christian but claims to be absolutely sure he knows what's in every Christian's heart: "there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book." Even though in every Christian service the Bible is read. "...it's the same shit about stoning and enslaving people for bullshit reasons" even though it was Christians that led the charge to eliminate slavery.
No argument or thoughtful rebuttals, just emote. Props to Barbara Walters for showing some class and dignity.
Fuck off Creamcake and find yourself a copy of the United States Constitution and then read it. You obviously haven`t.
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Fuck off Creamcake and find yourself a copy of the United States Constitution and then read it. You obviously haven`t.
I see you are emoting again, frog legs. I hate to repeat myself but...
Idiot! No one is questioning their right to build a mosques but rather is it appropriate or the right thing to do. You have the right to curse your parents but is it appropriate or the right thing to do? Should the KKK set up a club house in Watts?
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STFU TA, since when have liberals ever adheared to the consitution? If anything they denounce it as you can plainly see in the policy's they try to get through and the appointees Obama put in with out even so much as putting them through a vetting process. How many self-proclaimed socialist, marxist and communists are in, that have admitted it?
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I see you are emoting again, frog legs. I hate to repeat myself but...
I already said you can say whatever you want to your parents and that the KKK should be able to set up shop in Watts or wherever they want.
YOU are the one who wants to subvert the Constitution and deny people their rights regarding religion.
As I stated previously, I don`t believe building ANY church of ANY kind of ANY religion ANYWHERE is the "Right" thing to do. It sure as fuck is not as it only teaches ignorance and undermines rationality, reason and Science. It also creates and teaches Sectarian irrational hate.
I would NEVER take away their Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion or Freedom of Speech or their rights bound by the Constitution.
You fucking dumbass Republicans just wipe your ass with the Constitution yet try to claim that you support it or want to uphold it. You don`t. You sir, are a moron.
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You have absolutely no clue TA, you really think liberals follow any part of the consistution?
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Idiot! No one is questioning their right to build a mosques but rather is it appropriate or the right thing to do.
This is the key point; however, liberals, mainly women and feminized men, as you said, are too childish and emotional to handle this reality. So, they use the "right to build" point to win the "whether it's right" argument.
This is a common tactic of the left, and, with their lack of reasoning abilities, they don't see the flaw in their logic. So, arguing these types of issues with them is pointless and a waste of time.
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This is the key point; however, liberals, mainly women and feminized men, as you said, are too childish and emotional to handle this reality. So, they use the "right to build" point to win the "whether it's right" argument.
This is a common tactic of the left, and, with their lack of reasoning abilities, they don't see the flaw in their logic. So, arguing these types of issues with them is pointless and a waste of time.
As I said, I think its NEVER RIGHT to build ANY church of ANY religion ANYWHERE. So because I don`t think its the "right" thing to build ever and anywhere it should not be allowed?
Is that what you mean? I totally disagree and think anyone should have the right to build any church anywhere as long as they are not violating any one elses rights even if I think it is NOT the "right" thing to do.
Again, it would help if you actually read and followed the Constitution.
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This is the key point; however, liberals, mainly women and feminized men, as you said, are too childish and emotional to handle this reality. So, they use the "right to build" point to win the "whether it's right" argument.
This is a common tactic of the left, and, with their lack of reasoning abilities, they don't see the flaw in their logic. So, arguing these types of issues with them is pointless and a waste of time.
You are the fucking emotional crybaby having the conniption over a stupid building and a stupid religion.
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Me fucking to. You could hear Whoopi "but but Tim Mcviegh" right before she walked out. How many Christians would actually back up what Tim Mcveigh did. When we were attacked on 911 there was images of muslims jumping around dancing everywhere in the world including some parts of New Jersey.
I was in Europe when 9/11 happened and was amazed at the images of moslems partying, ecstatic in the streets on the news. I also saw that same news service offer a complete retraction and apology for the images which had a provenance of about a year earlier after a good result in a soccer match. Cant comment on the American footage you reference.
I also saw footage affecting Australia on the news no one was seeing back home. I'd call and ask and nada. I dont trust news services now until things have been backed up by a number of sources. Hate the thought we get manipulated and a first impression is a first impression, even after an apology sets things straight.
I dont watch O'Reilly often. Dont need the aggro.
Carry on.
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O'Reilly is owns The Views minds.
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You are the fucking emotional crybaby having the conniption over a stupid building and a stupid religion.
Calm down, Adam. I made one small post on the entire thread.
Do they have the constitutional right to build the Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero?
Yes.
Should they do it?
No.
Why?
Because it's inappropriate and insensitive.
Are we clear?
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Calm down, Adam. I made one small post on the entire thread.
Do they have the constitutional right to build the Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero?
Yes.
Should they do it?
No.
Why?
Because it's inappropriate and insensitive.
Are we clear?
Stop being a fucking crybaby and let them build it anywhere they want. Its their Constitutional right to do so.
I abhor the building of any church at any location more than you do and here I am standing up for their rights under the Constitution to build it. They have the rights to be deluded anywhere they want, especially when they OWN the property. So you want the government to step in and dictate what they should do with their own Private Property? Thats bullshit.
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I already said you can say whatever you want to your parents and that the KKK should be able to set up shop in Watts or wherever they want.
YOU are the one who wants to subvert the Constitution and deny people their rights regarding religion.
As I stated previously, I don`t believe building ANY church of ANY kind of ANY religion ANYWHERE is the "Right" thing to do. It sure as fuck is not as it only teaches ignorance and undermines rationality, reason and Science. It also creates and teaches Sectarian irrational hate.
I would NEVER take away their Constitutional Right to Freedom of Religion or Freedom of Speech or their rights bound by the Constitution.
You fucking dumbass Republicans just wipe your ass with the Constitution yet try to claim that you support it or want to uphold it. You don`t. You sir, are a moron.
Yes, you can do whatever you want (in the context you are referring to) but is it appropriate.
And exactly whom is DENYING their right to build their Mosque? What government coercion is being used to prevent this from happening? What court action has been filed?
What you are doing, my frog legged friend, is projecting. You are projecting what liberals do. That is using the courts to over rule the will of the people. When California votes to define marriage as between a man and a woman, a definition that has existed through out human history, some handful of liberal judges imposes their will and personal preference and beliefs on the entire population and over rule the will of the people.
There is no legal or government coercion being used to prevent the building of the Mosque. People are just voicing their opinion.
It's not enough to just read the constitution my dear pseudo intellectual. You have to understand it as well. That requires a bit more than the internet and google. You have to be educated. Acting smart and being smart and two different things entirely.
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Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
Owned by Dawkings
Can you point out specifically where he was "owned"?
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They have done that a million times in denouncing the actions of 9-11...its just that no media outlet is reporting it
You're dumber than people have been calling you on here.
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WAKE THE FUCK UP, ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM!!!!
This.
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Yes, you can do whatever you want (in the context you are referring to) but is it appropriate.
And exactly whom is DENYING their right to build their Mosque? What government coercion is being used to prevent this from happening? What court action has been filed?
What you are doing, my frog legged friend, is projecting. You are projecting what liberals do. That is using the courts to over rule the will of the people. When California votes to define marriage as between a man and a woman, a definition that has existed through out human history, some handful of liberal judges imposes their will and personal preference and beliefs on the entire population and over rule the will of the people.
There is no legal or government coercion being used to prevent the building of the Mosque. People are just voicing their opinion.
It's not enough to just read the constitution my dear pseudo intellectual. You have to understand it as well. That requires a bit more than the internet and google. You have to be educated. Acting smart and being smart and two different things entirely.
Moron, this country was founded upon the very idea of PROTECTING the Minority, hence the MANY checks and balances throughout. If we would have bent to what you call "will of the people" Blacks would probably still not have any freedoms since the majority of the country was not in favor for Equal Rights and even going further back, the abolition of slavery.
You really are stupid and need to educate yourself in American History. Hoep this helps.
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Anyone who believes in make believe Gods, is an idiot.
The end.
Ha, that video was great, but your atheism sucks.
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Yes, you can do whatever you want (in the context you are referring to) but is it appropriate.
And exactly whom is DENYING their right to build their Mosque? What government coercion is being used to prevent this from happening? What court action has been filed?
What you are doing, my frog legged friend, is projecting. You are projecting what liberals do. That is using the courts to over rule the will of the people. When California votes to define marriage as between a man and a woman, a definition that has existed through out human history, some handful of liberal judges imposes their will and personal preference and beliefs on the entire population and over rule the will of the people.
There is no legal or government coercion being used to prevent the building of the Mosque. People are just voicing their opinion.
It's not enough to just read the constitution my dear pseudo intellectual. You have to understand it as well. That requires a bit more than the internet and google. You have to be educated. Acting smart and being smart and two different things entirely.
FYI, In ancient Egypt Gay marriage was allowed and treated the same as Hetero marriage. So much for your "human history" argument.
Once again, you know nothing of History. I`d hate to be as patently ignorant as you.
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Stop being a fucking crybaby and let them build it anywhere they want. Its their Constitutional right to do so.
I abhor the building of any church at any location more than you do and here I am standing up for their rights under the Constitution to build it. They have the rights to be deluded anywhere they want, especially when they OWN the property. So you want the government to step in and dictate what they should do with their own Private Property? Thats bullshit.
Thin (may I call you Thin?) makes a simple point clarifying the issue and you start ranting and calling him a cry baby. I'm sure if this debate took place in person this is probably where you'd push everything off the table, call us all fascist, and storm off. And again, who has said that the government should step in? That's what libs do. Stop projecting.
Liberals emote.
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Hope this helps.
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Thin (may I call you Thin?) makes a simple point clarifying the issue and you start ranting and calling him a cry baby. I'm sure if this debate took place in person this is probably where you'd push everything off the table, call us all fascist, and storm off. And again, who has said that the government should step in? That's what libs do. Stop projecting.
Liberals emote.
I`d own you into tears just like I have done MANY Republicans in person. Its quite amusing really and I wish I had it on tape.
You are the little baby who fears a pathetic religion. I find it funny how frightened and weak minded you really are. I bet you are a real coward in "real" life since you have proven yourself such a whiner on here.
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TA you're a fool. Why should they build a mosque right where they blew the fucken shit out of thousands of inocent people. Don't you know they will consider that a huge victory to be able to put one of there churches right where that happend. They want to keep chipping away at things and get more and more power and influence in the U.S. They have all the constituitional right to do it but doesn't mean they should? Look at all the bullshit going on In Europe. They get special treatment. They are gonna end up running those Countries into the ground.
The Imam or whatever he's called denies that groups like Al Quadae and Muj Hadeen are even terroist organizations. He threatend if they don't get that spot where they want to build the mosque there will be blood shed. He's dangerous and has ties to dangerous people.
What I don't understand is how can a true man consider themselves a liberal. The party of feminists and homosexuals. Look at all the Hollywood scum they're all panty waisted liberal cock bags.
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Moron, this country was founded upon the very idea of PROTECTING the Minority, hence the MANY checks and balances throughout. If we would have bent to what you call "will of the people" Blacks would probably still not have any freedoms since the majority of the country was not in favor for Equal Rights and even going further back, the abolition of slavery.
You really are stupid and need to educate yourself in American History. Hoep this helps.
Ah, so don't believe in elections and rather having a handful of judges over rule the will of the people when it suits you. And weren't you the one crying that Al Gore won because he won the majority of the popular vote?
BTW, pseudo intellectual, the country was not FOUNDED on the idea of protecting the minority. Look at any coin and you will find the answer to that. In God We Trust (ouch!), Liberty, E Pluribus Unum.
You should have gotten an education rather than just live off others and copy and paste.
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Yes, you can do whatever you want (in the context you are referring to) but is it appropriate.
And exactly whom is DENYING their right to build their Mosque? What government coercion is being used to prevent this from happening? What court action has been filed?
What you are doing, my frog legged friend, is projecting. You are projecting what liberals do. That is using the courts to over rule the will of the people. When California votes to define marriage as between a man and a woman, a definition that has existed through out human history, some handful of liberal judges imposes their will and personal preference and beliefs on the entire population and over rule the will of the people.
There is no legal or government coercion being used to prevent the building of the Mosque. People are just voicing their opinion.
It's not enough to just read the constitution my dear pseudo intellectual. You have to understand it as well. That requires a bit more than the internet and google. You have to be educated. Acting smart and being smart and two different things entirely.
Also, Same Sex Marriage is completely legal in MANY countries as we speak. ::) So much for "has been definition that has existed through out human history" as you so stupidly stated.
You are not bright whatsoever Captain Hook.
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I`d own you into tears just like I have done MANY Republicans in person. Its quite amusing really and I wish I had it on tape.
You are the little baby who fears a pathetic religion. I find it funny how frightened and weak minded you really are. I bet you are a real coward in "real" life since you have proven yourself such a whiner on here.
Hahah omg a tough liberal ::) Tough and liberal don't belong in the same sentence
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FYI, In ancient Egypt Gay marriage was allowed and treated the same as Hetero marriage. So much for your "human history" argument.
Once again, you know nothing of History. I`d hate to be as patently ignorant as you.
Other than informal, unsanctioned relationships and ritualized unions where is your source for this?
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TA you're a fool. Why should they build a mosque right where they blew the fucken shit out of thousands of inocent people. Don't you know they will consider that a huge victory to be able to put one of there churches right where that happend. They want to keep chipping away at things and get more and more power and influence in the U.S. They have all the constituitional right to do it but doesn't mean they should? Look at all the bullshit going on In Europe. They get special treatment. They are gonna end up running those Countries into the ground.
The Imam or whatever he's called denies that groups like Al Quadae and Muj Hadeen are even terroist organizations. He threatend if they don't get that spot where they want to build the mosque there will be blood shed. He's dangerous and has ties to dangerous people.
What I don't understand is how can a true man consider themselves a liberal. The party of feminists and homosexuals. Look at all the Hollywood scum they're all panty waisted liberal cock bags.
Your religion is just as shit-stained and brained, worthless and pointless as theirs. All of you religious morons suck and ruin it for the rational minded.
However, I will still stand up for your right to be a complete dumbass and theirs as well. Fuck both of your religions. I hate them both with equal passion.
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You mean like the Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics or kill doctors who perform abortion? Let’s get real: no one who commits acts of murder or violence is doing it in the name of religion—any religion. They may wrap themselves in religious rhetoric to justify their behavior, but at the end of the day they are criminals pure and simple. >:(
you and your type commit murder amongst your own. it's illegal
to knowingly have aids and have unprotected sex and not notifying the other degenerate.
shouldn't bitch but this is a fact you do this. your type has killed many of not only your own kind but ours as well including children born with your only offering to mankind.
you and your ilk are no better than murders rapists and pedos. of which it's rather
apparent you are potentially all 3 of those. oh and priests since your on this anti religious
oh i'ma oppress homo crap. fuck off and literaly die
nothing whine and throw something unrelated back kunt
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You think I care about what you think haha. The greatest men I've ever met in my life are christians. Men who would die to protect their families, and there Country. Men who are willing to give the shirt of their back to those in need. What the hell are you.
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Ah, so don't believe in elections and rather having a handful of judges over rule the will of the people when it suits you. And weren't you the one crying that Al Gore won because he won the majority of the popular vote?
BTW, pseudo intellectual, the country was not FOUNDED on the idea of protecting the minority. Look at any coin and you will find the answer to that. In God We Trust (ouch!), Liberty, E Pluribus Unum.
You should have gotten an education rather than just live off others and copy and paste.
You know NOTHING of American History. Nothing.
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa51.htm
The Federalist No. 51
The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments
Independent Journal
Wednesday, February 6, 1788
[James Madison]
If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure. There are but two methods of providing against this evil: the one by creating a will in the community independent of the majority -- that is, of the society itself; the other, by comprehending in the society so many separate descriptions of citizens as will render an unjust combination of a majority of the whole very improbable, if not impracticable.-James Madison
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I`d own you into tears just like I have done MANY Republicans in person. Its quite amusing really and I wish I had it on tape.
You are the little baby who fears a pathetic religion. I find it funny how frightened and weak minded you really are. I bet you are a real coward in "real" life since you have proven yourself such a whiner on here.
More projection my fast melting calorie counter. The only whining, ranting, and tearful replies are coming from you. Everybody sees it but you.
And a coward? I don't think so, frog legs. You would tremble and crumple to the floor in my presence.
Your admitted implication of your bisexuality is just another example of your moral and intellectual confusion.
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More projection my fast melting calorie counter. The only whining, ranting, and tearful replies are coming from you. Everybody sees it but you.
And a coward? I don't think so, frog legs. You would tremble and crumple to the floor in my presence.
Your admitted implication of your bisexuality is just another example of your moral and intellectual confusion.
You sure know NOTHING about American History.
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Your religion is just as shit-stained and brained, worthless and pointless as theirs. All of you religious morons suck and ruin it for the rational minded.
However, I will still stand up for your right to be a complete dumbass and theirs as well. Fuck both of your religions. I hate them both with equal passion.
Awesome logical and well reasoned response.
The meltdowns just keep on coming.
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i must ammend my previous statement by saying that homosexuals
kill one another (by spreading aids hepc etc) and kill heterosexuals
(indirectly or otherwise murder is murder) all in the name of sexual preference.
there is some gravely wrong with that and i mean no pun.
sooner you and your type are in the grave the better.
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oh god not more cut n paste. die fucking homo apologist.
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You know NOTHING of American History. Nothing.
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa51.HTML
The Federalist No. 51
The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments
Independent Journal
Wednesday, February 6, 1788
[James Madison]
If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure. There are but two methods of providing against this evil: the one by creating a will in the community independent of the majority -- that is, of the society itself; the other, by comprehending in the society so many separate descriptions of citizens as will render an unjust combination of a majority of the whole very improbable, if not impracticable.-James Madison
And this proves that this country was FOUNDED on protecting the minority how?
BTW, that's why we are a republic and not a pure democracy. There's a legislative process and in California a referendum process.
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Your religion is just as shit-stained and brained, worthless and pointless as theirs. All of you religious morons suck and ruin it for the rational minded.
However, I will still stand up for your right to be a complete dumbass and theirs as well. Fuck both of your religions. I hate them both with equal passion.
Typical liberal response. A huge percentage of Americans consider themselves Christians. It's the left that makes Christianity the most persecuted religion in America. Making it illegal to have any mention of god in school ect. That's one of the big reasons for the down fall of morals and ethics in America. It's the democrats. But they make something like homosexuality okay try to shove it down everyones throat..
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Awesome logical and well reasoned response.
The meltdowns just keep on coming.
Don`t be angry that you are uneducated.
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You sure know NOTHING about American History.
You can keep calling other people names but that doesn't add any credence to your argument.
Perhaps you should deal with your bisexuality. That may be the root of your confusion. What's with that State that you and Goodrum live in any way? Is there some kind of homo virus going on there? What kind of man wants another man's cock in his mouth and ass? Please explain.
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And this proves that this country was FOUNDED on protecting the minority how?
BTW, that's why we are a republic and not a pure democracy. There's a legislative process and in California a referendum process.
Look, if you want I will go over The Federalist Papers and the Constitution with you line by line to show you, but I doubt you will admit how wrong you are.
Perhaps you should just enroll in a basic civics class and ask the professor about James Madison and Thomas Jefferson`s view of Minority Rights in terms of the Majority and the various Checks and Balances such as Judicial Review, which were set in place to PROTECT the civil rights of the Minority.
I can really help you learn and understand something if you are willing. If not, forget it. Continue to be a know nothing Shit-Brain. All I ask is read Madison, Jefferson and Franklin as well as Alexander Hamilton. You won`t, but at least I suggested it.
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Typical liberal response. A huge percentage of Americans consider themselves Christians. It's the left that makes Christianity the most persecuted religion in America. Making it illegal to have any mention of god in school ect. That's one of the big reasons for the down fall of morals and ethics in America. It's the democrats. But they make something like homosexuality okay try to shove it down everyones throat..
Your Religion is just as useless and bullshit as Islam and any other religion. Hope this helps.
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Don`t be angry that you are uneducated.
Sorry homo but I don't think anyone, whether they agree with me or not, thinks I'm angry. I'm not. I'm just having fun tooling you. With Seva, Noworries, and others reaming you lately it seems like you are just being past around from person to person like a cheap whore to get anally raped.
Your angry will eventually subside and you will enjoy it like the true fag that your are.
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Can you point out specifically where he was "owned"?
Actually believing in fairy tales and "god" and believing in creationism, dismissing science. That in and of itself is a selfowning.
Also the fact that he can't explain why his god is truer than Zeus, Thor or any other so called god.
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Sorry homo but I don't think anyone, whether they agree with me or not, thinks I'm angry. I'm not. I'm just having fun tooling you. With Seva, Noworries, and others reaming you lately it seems like you are just being past around from person to person like a cheap whore to get anally raped.
Your angry will eventually subside and you will enjoy it like the true fag that your are.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=351776.0;attach=387213;image)
I find it rather amusing that you give the middle finger to an individual`s rights and the protection thereof. Jefferson and Madison would piss on you.
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Look, if you want I will go over The Federalist Papers and the Constitution with you line by line to show you, but I doubt you will admit how wrong you are.
Perhaps you should just enroll in a basic civics class and ask the professor about James Madison and Thomas Jefferson`s view of Minority Rights in terms of the Majority and the various Checks and Balances such as Judicial Review, which were set in place to PROTECT the civil rights of the Minority.
I can really help you learn and understand something if you are willing. If not, forget it. Continue to be a know nothing Shit-Brain. All I ask is read Madison, Jefferson and Franklin as well as Alexander Hamilton. You won`t, but at least I suggested it.
LOL!
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I find it rather amusing that you give the middle finger to an individual`s rights and the protection thereof. Jefferson and Madison would piss on you.
I believe it is your kind that is into that whole golden shower thing. Thanks for the thought, though.
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I believe it is your kind that is into that whole golden shower thing. Thanks for the thought, though.
At least we can rest now knowing you are void of any knowledge regarding American History and our Constitution. Don`t worry, you aren`t alone in that respect. Your numbers are only growing and ignorance is flourishing just fine.
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At least we can rest now knowing you are void of any knowledge regarding American History and our Constitution. Don`t worry, you aren`t alone in that respect. Your numbers are only growing and ignorance is flourishing just fine.
I don't think there's any "we" here. You seem very comfortable presuming to speak for other people.
There is no such thing as straight or gay. We are all just a combination of of impulses and desires at varying levels at different times. Don`t worry, nothing is wrong with you. Hope this helps.
Speak for yourself, homo.
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Calm down, Adam. I made one small post on the entire thread.
Do they have the constitutional right to build the Mosque two blocks from Ground Zero?
Yes.
Should they do it?
No.
Why?
Because it's inappropriate and insensitive.
Are we clear?
Thin Lizzy, TA is okay with everything unless it's proven guilty by science.
So it's okay to rape his mom and kill his father because Science can't prove the wrongdoing of that..
Would that be okay to say this since it's freedom of speech?
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Thin Lizzy, TA is okay with everything unless it's proven guilty by science.
So it's okay to rape his mom and kill his father because Science can't prove the wrongdoing of that..
Would that be okay to say this since it's freedom of speech?
There also has to be published studies to copy and paste.
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Thin Lizzy, TA is okay with everything unless it's proven guilty by science.
So it's okay to rape his mom and kill his father because Science can't prove the wrongdoing of that..
Would that be okay to say this since it's freedom of speech?
You need a religion to stop you from raping someones mother and killing their father? ??? Are you really that unstable and coming apart that your belief in a fairy tale is the only thing holding you back from being a homicidal maniac? ???
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You need a religion to stop you from raping someones mother and killing their father? ??? Are you really that unstable and coming apart that your belief in a fairy tale is the only thing holding you back from being a homicidal maniac? ???
well moral values do not come from science
a child is born without knowing what is right or wrong. They will do based on what they received and perceived from others morale values.
science don't teach moral values. common sense is not based on science either.
so technically a person is brought up by screwed up people, that person would be screwed up. Science has no place in this
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well moral values do not come from science
a child is born without knowing what is right or wrong. They will do based on what they received and perceived from others morale values.
science don't teach moral values. common sense is not based on science either.
so technically a person is brought up by screwed up people, that person would be screwed up. Science has no place in this
Awesome post! You have over 5,000 posts and I've never noticed you before.
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well moral values do not come from science
a child is born without knowing what is right or wrong. They will do based on what they received and perceived from others morale values.
science don't teach moral values. common sense is not based on science either.
so technically a person is brought up by screwed up people, that person would be screwed up. Science has no place in this
Totally not true. Evolutionary Psychology is in fact very real. We are not Blank Slates (an ultra liberal Scientifically untrue idea) that we are all born equal without and Pre-programming from our DNA (hereditary genetics).
I am an atheist and I do not get my morals whatsoever from your religion or any religion. Religion is not needed for such concepts and Science can certainly explain why and how "morality" is positive (and negative) for kin and group survivability as well as the effects upon any civilization.
I don`t understand your statement "common sense" is not based on Science. That is nonsensical, especially if you are referring to instinct. (I have no idea what you are referring to so I have to leave it at that until you clarify)
Finally, many people are brought up by "screwed up" parents or by no parents at all and they turn out to be fine pillars of society and wonderful people, morally and socially. And many people have loving and caring parents and their children have turned out to be homicidal maniacs. Your blanket statement is bullshit.
Now let me recommend a book that I know you won`t read, but should.
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I can come up with A LOT more.
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I can come up with A LOT more.
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/46218/thumbs/s-FUKUYAMA-large.jpg)
HAHAHAHAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN ONE OF YOUR CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK (PUN) FIGURE HEAD SAID HE WAS GUNNA VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!!!
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(http://carnegieendowment.org/images/experts/kagan_color_large1.jpg)
ANOTHER FAT DUMBASS WHO WRITES A BOOK WITH NO REAL CONCLUSION. JUST LOFTY THOUGHTS. I WOULD RATHER BEAT OFF NONSTOP IN THE TIME IT TOOK ME TO READ THIS GARBAGE
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Your Religion is just as useless and bullshit as Islam and any other religion. Hope this helps.
Say what you want about any religion -- or right not to believe in any kind of religion at all -- but the only group advocating KILLING others who don't believe what they believe in are the Islamic extremists who killied thousands of innocent lives on 9/11.
It's amazing that some people can't grasp such a simple concept.
Muslim extremists need to be dealt with ... not pacified, understood, or tolerated.
You fucking mouthy liberals wouldn't last 10 seconds in a muslim extremist run state.
Better wake up before it's too late and lend support to the country that allows you to spout off your views.
God, we need a real leader who is willing to speak the truth and not be a God damn fucking pacifist pussy like we have now.
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(http://carnegieendowment.org/images/experts/kagan_color_large1.jpg)
ANOTHER FAT DUMBASS WHO WRITES A BOOK WITH NO REAL CONCLUSION. JUST LOFTY THOUGHTS. I WOULD RATHER BEAT OFF NONSTOP IN THE TIME IT TOOK ME TO READ THIS GARBAGE
Eric. lol.
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Eric. lol.
have no idea who he is. Anyway, Liberals are the moral equivalent to dirt turds.
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(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/46218/thumbs/s-FUKUYAMA-large.jpg)
HAHAHAHAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN ONE OF YOUR CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK (PUN) FIGURE HEAD SAID HE WAS GUNNA VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!!!
WTF are you talking about gimmick?
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have no idea who he is. Anyway, Liberals are the moral equivalent to dirt turds.
Hook. line.... sinker
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Hook. line.... sinker
Another lazy Liberal....
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Finally, many people are brought up by "screwed up" parents or by no parents at all and they turn out to be fine pillars of society and wonderful people, morally and socially. And many people have loving and caring parents and their children have turned out to be homicidal maniacs. Your blanket statement is bullshit.
No you are wrong here
Please name one person that grew up without any other human contact and became a fine pillar of society.. I'll tell you the answer because you won't know.. NO ONE
Children brought up through a rough family and turned out to be fine people are because of the values they learnt from other people and vice versa for children brought up with "loving" parents that turned out to be a screwed up maniacs.
Everything is because of the values they've learnt and embraced throughout their journey in life.
And if you think you become who you are today are purely based on science, then you're wrong sir.
Respect, love, anger, hatred, owning are all come from values that you've learnt in your life.
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Awesome post! You have over 5,000 posts and I've never noticed you before.
I like to stay hidden.. I'm a mini-getbigger and I'm no place with these "giants" here.. ;D ;D ;D
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You know NOTHING of American History. Nothing.
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa51.htm
The Federalist No. 51
The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments
Independent Journal
Wednesday, February 6, 1788
[James Madison]
If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure. There are but two methods of providing against this evil: the one by creating a will in the community independent of the majority -- that is, of the society itself; the other, by comprehending in the society so many separate descriptions of citizens as will render an unjust combination of a majority of the whole very improbable, if not impracticable.-James Madison
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Furthermore, I think The View is a terrible show (I've watched it a few times with my wife), because its run by a bunch of women who can't control their emotions, they are constantly inviting guests and then dissing them!!! Who does that? How do you invite someone and because you don't like their view you start to bash them and diss them, its ridiculous, eventually guests will stop coming to the show, so unprofessional. Whoopi and Joy should be fired for their actions!
Notice how all the hot YOUNG women have all but been run off the show? Hmm, I wonder why? The blonde will be next...
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bill oreily is a fucking idiot. what a dumb guy.
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After a long day and night, it's midnight right now in Hawaii, it good to click on this thread and see Mark Levin. Just warms my heart. Thank you, Coach. I regret I never got a chance to met you in person when I was still living in Redondo Beach. But don't think I would be up for one of your work outs. I know my limits.
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Say what you want about any religion -- or right not to believe in any kind of religion at all -- but the only group advocating KILLING others who don't believe what they believe in are the Islamic extremists who killied thousands of innocent lives on 9/11.
It's amazing that some people can't grasp such a simple concept.
Muslim extremists need to be dealt with ... not pacified, understood, or tolerated.
You fucking mouthy liberals wouldn't last 10 seconds in a muslim extremist run state.
Better wake up before it's too late and lend support to the country that allows you to spout off your views.
God, we need a real leader who is willing to speak the truth and not be a God damn fucking pacifist pussy like we have now.
Great post I might save this one.
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Say what you want about any religion -- or right not to believe in any kind of religion at all -- but the only group advocating KILLING others who don't believe what they believe in are the Islamic extremists who killied thousands of innocent lives on 9/11.
I can quote many christians saying they'd want to erase every muslim on the face of the Earth. How lovely people. ::)
And by the way, if those muslim extremists were funded by Americans, then who killed who exactly?
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http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/14/the-view-bill-oreilly-whoopi-goldberg-joy-behar-barbara-walters/
Not a big fan of Bill but I like this video. I get Bill's point, but "Muslims" as a community did not attack us. Islamic extemists did. I do think the Muslim community deserves a lot of criticism, because they have never come out as a community and denounced the actions of 9-11.
Facts are like bugspray to libtards. See how they both storm off as soon as Bill presents some facts. Fuck both those sacks of fat shit.
ask any muslim that isn't a extremist and they will tell you that they dont consider them as real muslims at all.
have americans apoligized for all the cilivilans killed in irak/iran or wherever they are lol
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I can quote many christians saying they'd want to erase every muslim on the face of the Earth. How lovely people. ::)
And by the way, if those muslim extremists were funded by Americans, then who killed who exactly?
We funded them to help them during the war they had with Russia. We didn't know what was gonna happend 10-20 years later. And the thing about Christians erasing every muslim is the most retarded statement you can make. We don't go around suicide bombing innocent muslims everyday to get a religious point across. Im sure there is a small group of people that would like to do that bout they're a tiny minority. Grasping at straws.
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ask any muslim that isn't a extremist and they will tell you that they dont consider them as real muslims at all.
have americans apoligized for all the cilivilans killed in irak/iran or wherever they are lol
That's good and all, but we shouldn't have to go around "asking" them what they think.
The fact that they've remained silent speaks volumes about their character, and probably what some of them believe deep down inside.
Remember this quote:
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
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We funded them to help them during the war they had with Russia. We didn't know what was gonna happend 10-20 years later. And the thing about Christians erasing every muslim is the most retarded statement you can make. We don't go around suicide bombing innocent muslims everyday to get a religious point across. Im sure there is a small group of people that would like to do that bout they're a tiny minority. Grasping at straws.
Yes I'm grasping at straws here when there are christian soldiers who are saying they would want to shoot every dirty muslim man, woman and children.
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Grasping at straws.
Exactly.
Are Christians teaching their kids that blowing yourself and others up is a righteous thing to do?
Are Christians outrightly talking about wiping countries off the map? (Iran's Ahmadinejad)
Do you ever see Christians dancing in the street when people are killed?
Do you see Christians treating their women as less than the men?
How many more examples do you need to show that Islamic extremists are pieces of fucking garbage? They have no place in a civilized world. Making war is part of their make up.
We need to keep these stone age fucks in check, while the rest of the world continues to evolve in all facets of society, science, medicine, technology, etc.
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Exactly.
Are Christians teaching their kids that blowing yourself and others up is a righteous thing to do?
Are Christians outrightly talking about wiping countries off the map? (Iran's Ahmadinejad)
Do you ever see Christians dancing in the street when people are killed?
Do you see Christians treating their women as less than the men?
How many more examples do you need to show that Islamic extremists are pieces of fucking garbage? They have no place in a civilized world. Making war is part of their make up.
We need to keep these stone age fucks in check, while the rest of the world continues to evolve in all facets of society, science, medicine, technology, etc.
No, but the Bible says...
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Loss for words there chief? Good, now crawl back under your anti-American rock and fucking rot like an infected, bloated synthol arm.
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STFU TA, since when have liberals ever adheared to the consitution? If anything they denounce it as you can plainly see in the policy's they try to get through and the appointees Obama put in with out even so much as putting them through a vetting process. How many self-proclaimed socialist, marxist and communists are in, that have admitted it?
wtf? C'mon coach, get real on this. Reality break and some fact checking here.
1.Some of the recent republican talking pts was on CHANGING the 14th ammendment , so your parents had to be citziens for a baby to be a citizen that was born in the USA.
2. Many in the republican party want to OVERTURN the law on abortion rights aka Roe vs Wade.
It seems they only like and agree with the actual US law and constitution if it lines up with THEIR beliefs.
Many right wingers also don't agree with the establishment clause which is the basis for the separation of church and state.
Now, to be fair the liberals want to CHANGE the marriage statute to include gay couples.
I am for obey the US law as it was WRITTEN, not as I like it to be.
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Exactly.
Are Christians teaching their kids that blowing yourself and others up is a righteous thing to do?
Are Christians outrightly talking about wiping countries off the map? (Iran's Ahmadinejad)
Do you ever see Christians dancing in the street when people are killed?
Do you see Christians treating their women as less than the men?
How many more examples do you need to show that Islamic extremists are pieces of fucking garbage? They have no place in a civilized world. Making war is part of their make up.
We need to keep these stone age fucks in check, while the rest of the world continues to evolve in all facets of society, science, medicine, technology, etc.
No question that a much higher % of muslims agree with extreme view pts.My "proof" _ hmmm, a bunch of Muslims would want you killed for simply showing an "image" of Muhamad. wtf? I hardly think that is reasonable.
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Liberals also want to get rid of the second amendment also the most important one the right to have guns. What kind of pussy wants to get rid of guns.
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Loss for words there chief? Good, now crawl back under your anti-American rock and fucking rot like an infected, bloated synthol arm.
Do I need to spell it out. Bible says women are inferior. Bible says kill the people who believe in false gods. Too much to list. Christians should sometimes read the book.
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That's good and all, but we shouldn't have to go around "asking" them what they think.
The fact that they've remained silent speaks volumes about their character, and probably what some of them believe deep down inside.
Remember this quote:
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Have americans said they're sorry for HIROSHIMA?!?!
Maby just saying hey We're sorry so many innocent died but we felt like it was the best option.
Even that? Or the innocent people that have died in usa? that then?
Just asking because I dont know but it seems like america appologizes to everyone because you assume they should do to you.
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Do I need to spell it out. Bible says women are inferior. Bible says kill the people who believe in false gods. Too much to list. Christians should sometimes read the book.
You're a jack ass Klaus. You talk out of your ass. Muslims stone there woman to death for even looking at another man. How many Christians have you heard of doing that. In the bible it says woman should obey there men. The men are the spiritual leaders of the family. The man should have the last word on certain things. The woman needs to be respected though. Marriages should be this way you would see way less divorce. You are incompetent.
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Have americans said they're sorry for HIROSHIMA?!?!
Maby just saying hey We're sorry so many innocent died but we felt like it was the best option.
Even that? Or the innocent people that have died in usa? that then?
Just asking because I dont know but it seems like america appologizes to everyone because you assume they should do to you.
Dumbass we stopped a shit load of people from getting killed by doing that. They refused to surrender. We would of had to invade and a lot more people on both sides would of been slaughtered. We should celebrate what we did.
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Have americans said they're sorry for HIROSHIMA?!?!
Maby just saying hey We're sorry so many innocent died but we felt like it was the best option.
Even that? Or the innocent people that have died in usa? that then?
Just asking because I dont know but it seems like america appologizes to everyone because you assume they should do to you.
Dude, I'll never forget a dumb post you made making fun of dead bodies in Haiti. That showed your character and intelligence level. You're a complete idiot and should stick to talking about MMA and smoking pot.
We were attacked first by the Japanese and we retaliated. Why the fuck should we apologize?
We need to stop making excuses for muslim extremists.
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Dumbass we stopped a shit load of people from getting killed by doing that. They refused to surrender. We would of had to invade and a lot more people on both sides would of been slaughtered. We should celebrate what we did.
You can spin that anyway you want. What if muslim terrorists want to win with the least amount of casualties and their way of doing it is by suicide bombing. This is all of course hypothetical, like your post was.
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Dumbass we stopped a shit load of people from getting killed by doing that. They refused to surrender. We would of had to invade and a lot more people on both sides would of been slaughtered. We should celebrate what we did.
But alsso killed a shitload of innocent people yes?
why not appologize for that? thousands of familis are still suffering each and every day because they lost an Innocent family member. WHy not just SAy you're sorry but it had to be done.
this is actually what they are ASKING america to do, but you refuse.
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Dude, I'll never forget a dumb post you made making fun of dead bodies in Haiti. That showed your character and intelligence level. You're a complete idiot and should stick to talking about MMA and smoking pot.
We were attacked first by the Japanese and we retaliated. Why the fuck should we apologize?
We need to stop making excuses for muslim extremists.
yeah Im always 100% serious lol.
No one is making excuses for the EXTREMIST are they?
but ignorant ass americans thinks every damn muslim is a extremist which is spo fucking ignorant its Insane. Hence 1.4 BILLION extremist running free accordingly to you ::) retarded
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yes. But alzso killed a shitload of innocent people yes?
why not appologize for that? thousands of familis are still suffering each and every day because they lost an Innocent family member. WHy not just SAy you're sorry but it had to be done.
this is actually what they are ASKING america to do, but you refuse.
The fuck are you rambling about? The Japanese were innocent? Ask the millions of Chinese they murdered, raped and tortured just how innocent the Japanese are. Or the thousands of American soldiers who had to give their lives to fight off a lunatic war machine. Japan was one of the aggressors in a war that encompassed most of the planet.
But man are those Americans mean! Letting them keep their emperor and helping to rebuild their economy into the 2nd most powerful one on the planet. How evil of us! ::)
These moral equivalence arguments are hilariously pathetic. Klaus Fan seems to love embarrassing himself in any thread involving Islam. \\
yeah Im always 100% serious lol.
No one is making excuses for the EXTREMIST are they?
but ignorant ass americans thinks every damn muslim is a extremist which is spo fucking ignorant its Insane. Hence 1.4 BILLION extremist running free accordingly to you ::) retarded
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/S6y7R42oylI/AAAAAAAANEs/JVHq5_KeF4E/s640/Muslim+protesters+burn+a+Swedish+flag+photos+Swedish+artist+Lars+Vilks+protest+against+Vilks%27+caricature+depicting+Prophet+Muhammad+dog%27s+body,+outside+Swedish+embassy+Kuala+Lumpur,+Malaysia,+Friday,+March+26,+2010.jpg)
Don't worry, they like walking all over you Swedes, too.
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But alsso killed a shitload of innocent people yes?
why not appologize for that? thousands of familis are still suffering each and every day because they lost an Innocent family member. WHy not just SAy you're sorry but it had to be done.
this is actually what they are ASKING america to do, but you refuse.
Didn't Obunghole just send some people over to kiss ass. Did they apologize for bombing the shit out of Pearl Harbor? They started it.
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The fuck are you rambling about? The Japanese were innocent?
this is why im sick of gb at times. when have a said the japanese are innocent?!?!
I SAID ALOT of the familys killed ARE. Whihc is ofc TRUE
you cannot understand that by reading my post? you think I mean EVERY japanese guy is 100% innocent from reading that? even if I said it might have actually helped stopping the war?
you still think that?
amazing.
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yeah Im always 100% serious lol.
No one is making excuses for the EXTREMIST are they?
but ignorant ass americans thinks every damn muslim is a extremist which is spo fucking ignorant its Insane.
Getting high and joking around on the Internet is one thing. But making fun of dead people, right when the tragedy unfolded, just isn't cool. But, we won't continue down that road.
As for making excuses for the extremists ... hell yeah, it's happening in so many ways.
The fact that we even let Ahmadinejad into the U.S. is turning a blind eye right there.
The fact that some idiots are vehemently fighting for muslims to build a mosque at ground zero in New York is a form of an excuse right there.
These stone age fuckers will keep attacking people the world over until they are deal with properly.
War is a complicated issue (look at Iraq and Afghanistan), and I'm not saying I have all the answers, but bottom line: we can't ignore what these people are all about.
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Didn't Obunghole just send some people over to kiss ass. Did they apologize for bombing the shit out of Pearl Harbor? They started it.
I saw some documentary a while back claiming that No one had said that, they have been over there etc but never oficially appology, Which they can very well do condisirng how many innocent that ALSO DIED. =)
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this is why im sick of gb at times. when have a said the japanese are innocent?!?!
I SAID ALOT of the familys killed ARE. Whihc is ofc TRUE
you cannot understand that by reading my post? you think I mean EVERY japanese guy is 100% innocent from reading that? even if I said it might have actually helped stopping the war?
you still think that?
amazing.
What does whether or not a Japanese person is innocent have to do with anything? The number of innocents killed by the Japanese in WWII is much greater than any number killed by the American bombings of their mainland.
Those attacks made it so America didn't have to invade the Japanese mainland, thus it potentially saved upwards of 500,000 American lives. Works for me.
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Getting high and joking around on the Internet is one thing. But making fun of dead people, right when the tragedy unfolded, just isn't cool. But, we won't continue down that road.
Humor sets you free and helps cope with tragedy like Nothing else.
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What does whether or not a Japanese person is innocent have to do with anything? The number of innocents killed by the Japanese in WWII is much greater than any number killed by the American bombings of their mainland.
Then they should appoligize also.
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Humor sets you free and helps cope with tragedy like Nothing else.
True, if you were there and actually having to find a way to get through it.
But, you were in your comfortable apartment, not giving two fucks, making fun of pictures of dead people.
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I wonder jpw many fucked up things happened afterwards because of the radiation. Im sure you americans doesnt care about that. I mean hell their grandkid should also suffer right? and No appology right? But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaan if someone kills 3000 americans.
And how about almsot everyone claiming that Us invaded because of the oil? So they killed everyone just because of that? should they appoligize for that also then? lol
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True, if you were there and actually having to find a way to get through it.
But, you were in your comfortable apartment, not giving two fucks, making fun of pictures of dead people.
we cannot feel sorry for every tragic events that happends in the world.
Or you would do nothing but mourn all day long. People who live near by care. Thats why american care abput 9/11 victims and not all the innocent vimtims in irak/iran. Who have been shot Face to face. Isn't that also pretty horrible?
Or the japanese poeple that didnt have naythin to do with the war that all ofa sudden sawa big blast coming and was elimianted? and those to survved with HOPRRIBLE burn marks? kids also.. you dont think about that? try to put yourself in their position? you do that?
and didnt they ruin and kill people that lived there before them turning it into a shithole(?)
didnt americans do that with the usa though? lol. (not all of usa ofc lol)
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I wonder jpw many fucked up things happened afterwards because of the radiation. Im sure you americans doesnt care about that. I mean hell their grandkid should also suffer right? and No appology right? But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaan if someone kills 3000 americans.
And how about almsot everyone claiming that Us invaded because of the oil? So they killed everyone just because of that? should they appoligize for that also then? lol
It was World War 2 for christ sake. We were at war! Ugly things happen! We didn't know the extent of the problems it was gonna cause generations down the line. Why do you think we haven't used an atom bomb since?
What do you think the state of the world would be now if we didn't win the war? We were greatly outnumbered.
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Lots of uneducated idiots in this thread. Unsurprisingly, they are all defending Islam.
1) The United States has apologized to Japan about 20383828484 times. If you dim witted shit stains took the time to do a google search ( or read a book, if you really want to go nuts) you would know that.
2) America is not a religion. Islam is a religion. Hope this helps.
3) Who gives a fuck what it says in the bible? The bottom line is that regardless of what it says, or what someone may interpret the words to mean, no other group on planet earth besides MUSLIMS is indiscriminately killing innocent people and waging a global war on NON MUSLIMS. It's 2010. Wake up morons.
4) The moral equivalency argument does not work. Face it. Islam breeds violence, intolerance, hatred, the subjugation of women, slavery, death and destruction all over the world. Sticking your fingers in your ears and covering your eyes while screaming LALALALALALA "Christinanity" at the top of your lungs isn't going to change the truth.
Educate yourselves and do some research. This country and the world at large is sick and fucking tired of participating in the suicidal circle jerk known as political correctness just so monsters, low life's, freaks and liberals don't get offended. Actually scratch that, it's just liberals.
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It was World War 2 for christ sake. We were at war! Ugly things happen! We didn't know the extent of the problems it was gonna cause generations down the line. Why do you think we haven't used an atom bomb since?
What do you think the state of the world would be now if we didn't win the war? We were greatly outnumbered.
extreme example. The victims in iran the innocent ones is a more valid point.
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Lots of uneducated idiots in this thread. Unsurprisingly, they are all defending Islam.
1) The United States has apologized to Japan about 20383828484 times. If you dim witted shit stains took the time to do a google search ( or read a book, if you really want to go nuts) you would know that.
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/08/05/operation-apology-us-to-send-first-official-delegation-to-hiroshima-ceremony/
that seems to be the first official one. took a whiel didnt it? where is the 2 opther Billion official appologizes?
I agree I dont know alot but I recall eharing about that. So before that, where is the other official appology?
"For the first time, the US will send an official delegation to the Hiroshima ceremony in Japan:"
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Lots of uneducated idiots in this thread. Unsurprisingly, they are all defending Islam.
1) The United States has apologized to Japan about 20383828484 times. If you dim witted shit stains took the time to do a google search ( or read a book, if you really want to go nuts) you would know that.
2) America is not a religion. Islam is a religion. Hope this helps.
3) Who gives a fuck what it says in the bible? The bottom line is that regardless of what it says, or what someone may interpret the words to mean, no other group on planet earth besides MUSLIMS is indiscriminately killing innocent people and waging a global war on NON MUSLIMS. It's 2010. Wake up morons.
4) The moral equivalency argument does not work. Face it. Islam breeds violence, intolerance, hatred, the subjugation of women, slavery, death and destruction all over the world. Sticking your fingers in your ears and covering your eyes while screaming LALALALALALA "Christinanity" at the top of your lungs isn't going to change the truth.
Educate yourselves and do some research. This country and the world at large is sick and fucking tired of participating in the suicidal circle jerk known as political correctness just so monsters, low life's, freaks and liberals don't get offended. Actually scratch that, it's just liberals.
Great post, George. Too bad it will all on deaf ears.
I mean, "Christianity, Christianity, Christianity."
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/08/05/operation-apology-us-to-send-first-official-delegation-to-hiroshima-ceremony/
that seems to be the first official one. took a whiel didnt it? where is the 2 opther Billion official appologizes?
I agree I dont know alot but I recall eharing about that. So before that, where is the other official appology?
"For the first time, the US will send an official delegation to the Hiroshima ceremony in Japan:"
No, that would be the first time we sent a delegation to that ceremony. This is why people should stay in school. Your reading comprehension skills fucking suck.
I'm a little lost as to why you think the US should apologize for anything. It was Japan who started the war, you retard. They should be licking our nuts for the next 5 centuries for not completely destroying every square inch of that country and instead choosing to rebuild them into an economic juggernaut.
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But maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaan if someone kills 3000 americans.
God damn right.
Bush may not have had the best plan, but at least he took action.
You little fucking midget. Our country was attacked by cowardly terrorists who killed innocent civilians.
Of course we're going to be pissed.
Go smoke a joint and tune this stuff out.
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Great post, George. Too bad it will all on deaf ears.
I mean, "Christianity, Christianity, Christianity."
No, that would be the first time we sent a delegation to that ceremony. This is why people should stay in school. Your reading comprehension skills fucking suck.
So you guys have made an official appoligy at the ceremony? show me..
I dont even know what that word means lol. But yeah show me some official appoligy at the ceremony (which would be the place to do it) and I will shut up
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4) The moral equivalency argument does not work. Face it. Islam breeds violence, intolerance, hatred, the subjugation of women, slavery, death and destruction all over the world.
Why doesn't it work? I think it works just fine.
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God damn right.
Bush may not have had the best plan, but at least he took action.
You little fucking midget. Our country was attacked by cowardly terrorists who killed innocent civilians.
Of course we're going to be pissed.
Go smoke a joint and tune this stuff out.
where have I said that you shouldnt be?
another one reading and then transforming the text in their midn to Whatever they want.
Very common on these boards lol.
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Why doesn't it work? I think it works just fine.
This is because you're a moron and you love embarrassing yourself in every thread involving Islam.
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Swede, Klaus give it up. The truth is winning out in this thread and you two look like morons.
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This many (streches his arms to his sides) haven't read "the most important book in the human history". ::)
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Swede, Klaus give it up. The truth is winning out in this thread and you two look like morons.
All im trying to say is
If america wants an appoligy for what happened they should be ok with giving oen back afterwards about all the innocent people that have died in the war..
99.98% of the times it always comes acroos as america havent done anything bad ever ever ...Ever. What about almsot evberyone (american) sayign that the war was just a hoax to get to the oil etc..
thats my entire point.
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One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
what about the death threats you have recieved here? which pretty much is all because of 9/11.
HILLARIOUS ISN'T IT?!?!
Super smart americans right? lol
I bet they think you should appologize also?!?!?!
haha oh gee I wonder why alot of the world hates ameircans, I have no idea. If you ask them its becaue they are the best in the world at everything ;D EVERYONE ELSE ARE HATURS ;D
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what about the death threats you have recieved here? which pretty much is all because of 9/11.
HILLARIOUS ISN'T IT?!?!
Super smart americans right? lol
I bet they think you should appologize also?!?!?!
haha oh gee I wonder why alot of the world hates ameircans, I have no idea. If you ask them its becaue they are the best in the world at everything ;D EVERYONE ELSE ARE HATURS ;D
I hope you know that you come off as a complete retard in most of your posts.
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I hope you know that you come off as a complete retard in most of your posts.
Always to ignorant people at least, that I can fully understand lol.
and you come across as a retarded stalking little bitch that doesnt even dare to show even how his body look yet hes ALWAYS on a bb forum. but you know that right? lol
thats right follow up with the typical gimmick reponse "wow you fucking homo you wanna see my body huh?" completly forgettign you have been on a board devoted to just that lol
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I'm a little lost as to why you think the US should apologize for anything. It was Japan who started the war, you retard. They should be licking our nuts for the next 5 centuries for not completely destroying every square inch of that country and instead choosing to rebuild them into an economic juggernaut.
I agree
US didn't start the war Swede.. ever heard of a place called Pearl Harbor? ::) They brought the bombs on themselves as the aggressors
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Always to ignorant people at least, that I can fully understand lol.
and you come across as a retarded stalking little bitch that doesnt even dare to show even how his body look yet hes ALWAYS on a bb forum. but you know that right? lol
thats right follow up with the typical gimmick reponse "wow you fucking homo you wanna see my body huh?" completly forgettign you have been on a board devoted to just that lol
You should consider going back to school. This pseudo-intellectual with a high school degree crap just doesn't work for you.
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I agree
US didn't start the war Swede.. ever heard of a place called Pearl Harbor? ::) They brought the bombs on themselves as the aggressors
When have I said usa started the second world war? lol
how many civilians dies at the pearl harbor attack (I dont know)
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You should consider going back to school. This pseudo-intellectual with a high school degree crap just doesn't work for you.
and nothing so far has worked for you so far, so wtf are you supposed to do? lol
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and nothing so far has worked for you so far, so wtf are you supposed to do? lol
Nothing has worked? You can barely manage to string together a coherent post in this thread, let alone actually prove anything.
You appear to be getting worked up, though.
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This is because you're a moron and you love embarrassing yourself in every thread involving Islam.
HAHA beat me to it.
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Nothing has worked? You can barely manage to string together a coherent post in this thread, let alone actually prove anything.
You appear to be getting worked up, though.
lol. not at all.
Lets discuss in my language shall we?
Ok. I try and make it simple
You're a retard.
Did I spell that correctly?
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I haven't received any death threats here I think...
How many civilians have USA killed in Iraq/Afghanistan vs 9/11? Iraq body count shows 98-107 000 dead civilians, while afghan civilian deaths are 4,949 - 6,499.
How many died in 9/11 again? Was it close to 110 000 people?
What about the redneck looking dude that followed you around lol.
It has to be around 100.000 people right? if not why would they kill so many? and then want an appoligy? ???
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just to add some fuel ;D
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lol. not at all.
Lets discuss in my language shall we?
Ok. I try and make it simple
You're a retard.
Did I spell that correctly?
You are definetly getting worked up because when it was demonstrated that you have no clue what you're talking about, you tried to insult BF for not showing you naked pictures.
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You are definetly getting worked up because when it was demonstrated that you have no clue what you're talking about, you tried to insult BF for not showing you naked pictures.
did I say naked? or is that just soemthing you assume when you heard the word body in a sentence? A naked man pops up?
lol you have issues ;D
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What about the redneck looking dude that followed you around lol.
It has to be around 100.000 people right? if not why would they kill so many? and then want an appoligy? ???
They should try asking for an apology from Iran and the foreign Muslims that comprised the ranks of Al Qaeda in Iraq, with both of them facilitating the majority of those deaths.
I always find it amusing how people turn a blind eye to the fact that Al Qaeda in Iraq was a foreign run organization that spent more time killing Iraqi civilians than actually fighting America. You go ahead and ramble on, though.
What about the redneck looking dude that followed you around lol.
It has to be around 100.000 people right? if not why would they kill so many? and then want an appoligy? ???
Your fellow Eurotrash Fatpanda spends more time talking about Xerxes than anyone, from what I recall.
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In general when it comes to getbig, I leave my thoughts on racism and US foreign policy to myself..
I Should do the same lol.
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They should try asking for an apology from Iran and the foreign Muslims that comprised the ranks of Al Qaeda in Iraq, with both of them facilitating the majority of those deaths.
I just wish that americans could understand that faaaar from every muslim is a fucking terrorist or hates america etc etc etc.
You think common sense would do that right? You think they would understand that Only extremists are the problem right?
....apparently not though
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I LOVE YOU ALL
Now its actually time to train haha.
I leave you with this!
layeth the smackedownie in dis thread XER
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I just wish that americans could understand that faaaar from every muslim is a fucking terrorist or hates america etc etc etc.
You think common sense would do that right? You think they would understand that Only extremists are the problem right?
....apparently not though
It doesn't matter as "extremist" Muslims have completely hijacked that religion.
And for what it's worth, polling shows that over 50% of the Muslims in England think that the Western way of life should be eradicated and that Sharia Law should be established.
BerzerkFury, your thoughts on this post?
What about it? The overwhelming majority of those civilians have died at the hands of their fellow Muslims. You cry about the big bad foreign invaders yet Al Qaeda in Iraq was almost exclusively comprised of foreigners and they spent years killing thousands of people with their car bombings, beheadings and torture factories. Iran, another foreign power, has spent millions funding the insurgents that kill Iraqi civilians in an attempt to destabilize the country.
There's a glaring difference there. America doesn't actively target civilians. Muslims do.
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Swede,
Maybe if your country had terrorist attacks on par with 9-11 and the casualties personally affected you, you would understand.
Also, I know America played such a horrific roll in WW2, but remember who helped rid Europe of fascism and keep uncle Stalin at bay. Or maybe you think things would have been better off if we never did anything?
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Swede,
Maybe if your country had terrorist attacks on par with 9-11 and the casualties personally affected you, you would understand.
Also, I know America played such a horrific roll in WW2, but remember who helped rid Europe of fascism and keep uncle Stalin at bay. Or maybe you think things would have been better off if we never did anything?
I would fucking hate the extremists yes. But I wouldn't be so ignorant so I would hate All muslims.
And I dont know enough to argue about war really. now its gym lol.
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these extremists wet dream would be that we would judge all muslims on the same negative manner.
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fucking liberal jew bitch, and america hating black bitch OWNING themselves.........
those are liberals for you, whiny little f@ggots
how fucking embarrasing.........
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So now it's America vs Muslims as a whole? I thought it was against Al Qaeda and "prevention of weapons of mass destruction"..
The Islamic holy books justify the targeting and killing of civilians. Al Qaeda's only following what's written in them.
Exactly, it empowers them and gives everything a new "us vs them" mentality..
Yet it seems Klaus fan and Swede are the ones actively judging entire groups of people in this thread. Typical double standard.
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You seem to not be able to differentiate between Al Qaeda and regular muslims? No wonder why they're having an easy time recruiting.. you view them as the enemy already
Roughly 50% of the Muslims in England feel that the Western way of life should be eradicated and Sharia Law established as the system of governance in the West.
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Who says all Americans view all muslims as the enemy. They have their shitty Mosques built all over the fucken place. You don't see them getting fire bombed. You don't see innocent muslims being decapitated in the middle of the street. We aren't animals like them.
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We aren't animals like them.
enough muslims dispising these extremist thinkers as well.
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I have given my thoughts on immigrations and muslims before, we think alike about the subject. They may have fucked up opinions and should in my opinion be sent back to where they came from if they cannot respect the way of life in their new country, but that doesn't make them terrorists..
Not all Muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are Muslim.
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I'm glad we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan.saved a ton of American soldiers lives by not having to invade.
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Funny how you in one post manage to say "we don't view all muslims as the enemy" while in the next sentence say "we aren't animals like them".
Instead of "them" maybe you meant Al Qaeda?
I personally think of them as animals. I don't go out of my way to treat them bad or even talk to them. I mind my own buisness and stay away from people I don't like.
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My dad side of the family lived in a country where the majority was muslim. It was hell for them being Christian. They had to leave it got so bad. They were animals and would cut someones head off at the drop of a dime.
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maybe you should read mags like national geographic to get an other view on the people of these countries. they are not as united as people might think.
if ur only watch channels like fox news i can imagine people think that black and white.
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maybe you should read mags like national geographic to get an other view on the people of these countries. they are not as united as people might think.
if ur only watch channels like fox news i can imagine people think that black and white.
What??
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What??
muslims hates extremists as much as you. (in alot of cases)
Im sure your average american doesn't even know that.
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muslims hates extremists as much as you. (in alot of cases)
Im sure your average american doesn't even know that.
Average American. You've been owned throughout this whole thread why do you even continue to write in it. Most muslims I have talked to have a deep seated hatred for the U.S. They won't conform to our way of life our culture.
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maybe you should read mags like national geographic to get an other view on the people of these countries. they are not as united as people might think.
if ur only watch channels like fox news i can imagine people think that black and white.
O'Reilly just offsets his liberal equivalent, Bill Maher. And FOX just offsets the liberal cable networks which have been around for years.
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muslims hates extremists as much as you. (in alot of cases)
Im sure your average american doesn't even know that.
And why do liberal go to such great lengths to defend muslims. You think they would do the same for you lol. What a waste of your time an energy.
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I do agree with the point that alot of people come here and want us to adjust to their culture when they should be adjusting to ours. If not, just stay where u are.
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It's like the mexicans who come over here and won't learn the language. They hang their shitty mexican flag everywhere instead of the US flag. They don't pay taxes are a huge drain on goverement assitance and health care. Once again liberals will defend this. Liberals are the worst enemies Americans face. I don't even like associating myself with them anymore. Such cowards.
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muslims hates extremists as much as you. (in alot of cases)
Im sure your average american doesn't even know that.
If they do, they certainly don't denounce their actions in public often enough (if at all). That's a big part of the problem - lack of outrage from the "regular" followers of Islam.
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And why do liberal go to such great lengths to defend muslims. You think they would do the same for you lol. What a waste of your time an energy.
Liberals do have a track record of defending the perpetrators and not the victims. Never understood that.
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God damn right.
Bush may not have had the best plan, but at least he took action.
You little fucking midget. Our country was attacked by cowardly terrorists who killed innocent civilians.
Of course we're going to be pissed.
Go smoke a joint and tune this stuff out.
LOL
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Liberals do have a track record of defending the perpetrators and not the victims. Never understood that.
Unless it's middle class white male then they will be all up in arms screaming racist at the top of their lungs. Fucking cowards.
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If you had to be trapped in a foxhole with a liberal or a conservative, which would u choose. And be honest.
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Conservative in a second. Liberals think guns are "icky" hahaha. They would be shitting all over themselves.
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Yet it seems Klaus fan and Swede are the ones actively judging entire groups of people in this thread. Typical double standard.
Show me where I have.
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I'd like to see swede's stance on muslims if they were all black...
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regular muslims are as different from radical muslims
like their is some sort of catholic light.
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Liberals do have a track record of defending the perpetrators and not the victims. Never understood that.
It's called "Moral Relativism." Because leftists see America as an oppressor, they hold it to impossible standards; whereas, Moslems are seen as "oppressed" and are, therefore held to no standards at all.
The alliance between the left and radical Islam is based on mutual disdain. Leftists see Moslims as uneducated, unreconstructed oafs who can be easily manipulated. Conversely, Moslims see leftists as soft, feminized, pseudo-intellectuals whose throats can easily be slit at a later date.
Ironically, both are right.
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Liberals are the worst enemies Americans face. I don't even like associating myself with them anymore.
This.
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It's called "Moral Relativism." Because leftists see America as an oppressor, they hold it to impossible standards; whereas, Moslems are seen as "oppressed" and are, therefore held to no standards at all.
The alliance between the left and radical Islam is based on mutual disdain. Leftists see Moslims as uneducated, unreconstructed oafs who can be easily manipulated. Conversely, Moslims see leftists as soft, feminized, pseudo-intellectuals whose throats can easily be slit at a later date.
Ironically, both are right.
Bingo.........you nailed it. End of thread.
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(http://i53.tinypic.com/28clzqx.jpg)
OMG
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Show me where I have.
The only difference being, there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book.
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If 90 % don't, then I think it is fair to say christians, leaving the words "on average", out of it.
AND, if not single one of them follow their holy book precisely, like it should be done...
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Liberals do have a track record of defending the perpetrators and not the victims. Never understood that.
I have no idewa what even a liberal is, or democrat or "right wing" of "left wing" doesnt interest me at all.
All I know is that every muslim I saw on a daily basis whihc is alot of them for 6 months were all great people (came across as)
I also agree (dont know why this was brought up) If can take customs to where you move, you should leave. (which are the immigrants that are causing problems here) As in, learn the language and follow traditions or at least not tryh to Overpower with your own.
Im not per se defending just showing that there is always 2 sides to it. not only AMERICA is ALWAYS RIGHT. :p
there should be no countries we should all be the SAME ONE LOVE BAAAM haha
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Swede, seriously stick only to posting mma vids & occasional weed thread. Your opinion is asinine & you're very skewed since you live on government handouts in your country.
It's true there is a difference between your average Joe Muslim & extremist. However when 1/3 of Muslims accept bombing civilians as a tool to get their way then that line becomes blurred.
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Swede, seriously stick only to posting mma vids & occasional weed thread. Your opinion is asinine & you're very skewed since you live on government handouts in your country.
It's true there is a difference between your average Joe Muslim & extremist. However when 1/3 of Muslims accept bombing civilians as a tool to get their way then that line becomes blurred.
I do?
1/3? prove it? Just because its n some book they read doens't mean the agree with it. Same with alot of people and the bible.
maby you have some studies though
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I think we should put an end on religion, since religion have been killing people for ages.
The church kill tons of people... should we destroy or don't let them build churches anymore all around the world?
The belt buckles of Nazi soldiers were inscribed with "God is on our side". No religion is without blood on its hands.
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I think we should put an end on religion, since religion have been killing people for ages.
The church kill tons of people... should we destroy or don't let them build churches anymore all around the world?
The belt buckles of Nazi soldiers were inscribed with "God is on our side". No religion is without blood on its hands.
I agrdepression would go up like CRAZY though when people couldnt be sure about what happens in the "afterlife" ;D
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I think we should put an end on religion, since religion have been killing people for ages.
The church kill tons of people... should we destroy or don't let them build churches anymore all around the world?
The belt buckles of Nazi soldiers were inscribed with "God is on our side". No religion is without blood on its hands.
Put an end to religion how the hell would you do that. Doesn't even make sense to say. You would be destroyed.
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Put an end to religion how the hell would you do that. Doesn't even make sense to say. You would be destroyed.
Religion is a business. and like any business can go down too.
But people are too stupid to see it.
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Not in any of our lifetimes. When people are willing to fucking die for it.
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Not in any of our lifetimes. When people are willing to fucking die for it.
See, like i said... people most of them are stupid.
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I have no idewa what even a liberal is, or democrat or "right wing" of "left wing" doesnt interest me at all.
All I know is that every muslim I saw on a daily basis whihc is alot of them for 6 months were all great people (came across as)
Swedes are good people but very naive.
You just keep letting them in and your country will go from this
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To this
(http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/afghan-women-cp-w6373657.jpg)
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Swedes are good people but very naive.
You just keep letting them in and your country will go from this
(http://i6.tinypic.com/122fbk2.jpg)
To this
(http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/afghan-women-cp-w6373657.jpg)
WHy do you think SD finally got enough votes to enter parlament or whatever the word is for it.
its because some people are Finally realising how fucked up our system is.
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It's called "Moral Relativism." Because leftists see America as an oppressor, they hold it to impossible standards; whereas, Moslems are seen as "oppressed" and are, therefore held to no standards at all.
The alliance between the left and radical Islam is based on mutual disdain. Leftists see Moslims as uneducated, unreconstructed oafs who can be easily manipulated. Conversely, Moslims see leftists as soft, feminized, pseudo-intellectuals whose throats can easily be slit at a later date.
Ironically, both are right.
End of thread. Thank you all for participating.
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I hate ALL Religions Equally and think ALL are equally worthless, but according to the Constitution they are to be protected and the right to worship anywhere on Private property they choose is to be upheld.
Hope this helps. End of thread. Got that Right Wing Loonies (which extremist Muslims are as are the Fearful, Whiny , Babylike and Scared "Conservatives" in this thread. Both Right Wing Loonies)
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I hate ALL Religions Equally and think ALL are equally worthless, but according to the Constitution they are to be protected and the right to worship anywhere on Private property they choose is to be upheld.
Hope this helps. End of thread. Got that Right Wing Loonies (which extremist Muslims are as are the Fearful, Whiny , Babylike and Scared "Conservatives" in this thread. Both Right Wing Loonies)
Ha Ha.....The true adonis calling someone looney. Remember...the right wing loonies just offset the left wing loonies of which there are many. You included.
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wtf? C'mon coach, get real on this. Reality break and some fact checking here.
1.Some of the recent republican talking pts was on CHANGING the 14th ammendment , so your parents had to be citziens for a baby to be a citizen that was born in the USA.
2. Many in the republican party want to OVERTURN the law on abortion rights aka Roe vs Wade.
It seems they only like and agree with the actual US law and constitution if it lines up with THEIR beliefs.
Many right wingers also don't agree with the establishment clause which is the basis for the separation of church and state.
Now, to be fair the liberals want to CHANGE the marriage statute to include gay couples.
I am for obey the US law as it was WRITTEN, not as I like it to be.
You "come on" Howard,
1. Amending the Constitution is constitutional.
2. Roe v. Wade was a violation of the 10th amendment. Most agree now it was simply bad law. The issue is not whether abortion should be legal or not but rather who should decide. According to our Constitution it should have been left to the States. Before Roe v. Wade many States had already legalized abortion such as Hawaii and California. It was another case of activist judges making law and over ruling the legislative process.
And you're wrong about "right wingers" and the establishment cause. Show me one main stream Republican that wants to establish a State religion. And there's nothing in the Constitution about the separation of church and State. Remember that Obama was "swore in".
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I'm glad we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan.saved a ton of American soldiers lives by not having to invade.
And Japanese lives as well. The war would have dragged on resulting on more casualties on both sides.
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I do?
1/3? prove it? Just because its n some book they read doens't mean the agree with it. Same with alot of people and the bible.
maby you have some studies though
Google some polls of Muslim support for sharia law & violent tactics as a way to get political power across.
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Show me where I have.
The only difference being, there are no true believers in christianity, they don't even read their holy book. Because in the end it's the same shit about stoning and enslaving people for bullshit reasons.
There aren't any examples, thus no true followers.
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I think we should put an end on religion, since religion have been killing people for ages.
The church kill tons of people... should we destroy or don't let them build churches anymore all around the world?
The belt buckles of Nazi soldiers were inscribed with "God is on our side". No religion is without blood on its hands.
More people were murdered under secular regimes. Fascism, Nazism, Communism. It's not even remotely close.
And by eliminating Religion this will bring peace on earth how?
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I hate ALL Religions Equally and think ALL are equally worthless, but according to the Constitution they are to be protected and the right to worship anywhere on Private property they choose is to be upheld.
Hope this helps. End of thread. Got that Right Wing Loonies (which extremist Muslims are as are the Fearful, Whiny , Babylike and Scared "Conservatives" in this thread. Both Right Wing Loonies)
So given the choice to live in a Christian society or under Sharia law you would toss a coin? When was the last time you saw a video of a Christian beheading someone in the name of Christianity?
For someone who likes to portray himself as a sophisticated intellectual you really aren't very bright.
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So given the choice to live in a Christian society or under Sharia law you would toss a coin? When was the last time you saw a video of a Christian beheading someone in the name of Christianity?
For someone who likes to portray himself as a sophisticated intellectual you really aren't very bright.
Neither. Both are stupid and worthless and just as brutal if at any point they actually decide to follow their Shitty Book (holy book) to the T.
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More people were murdered under secular regimes. Fascism, Nazism, Communism. It's not even remotely close.
And by eliminating Religion this will bring peace on earth how?
yep, hitler, mao, and stalin.......and other have kill 10s of millions more people then ANY religion
more people have died because of secularism, then any religion
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Neither. Both are stupid and worthless and just as brutal if at any point they actually decide to follow their Shitty Book (holy book) to the T.
You avoid a simple, straight forward hypothetical and of course everyone here knows why. You have a massive ego and exaggerated sense of self-importance. You're not a genuine person and it has been shown time and time again. You lie to yourself.
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yep, hitler, mao, and stalin.......and other have kill 10s of millions more people then ANY religion
more people have died because of secularism, then any religion
And some of the relatively "minor" ones like Castro and good ole Pol Pot (almost 2/3 of his own people. Many whose crime was simply being educated).
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Fairy Tale 1)
At first there was nothing. And then a SUPREME BEING said "BANG" and all was created.
Fairy Tale 2)
At first there was nothing. And then FOR SOME REASON "BANG" all was created.
One of these fairy tales is called "science".
If you don't believe me, read up all you can on the big bang and the accepted scientific notion.
But, for some reason, if you believe in 2, you can ridicule 1.
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More people were murdered under secular regimes. Communism. It's not even remotely close.
And by eliminating Religion this will bring peace on earth how?
No causality. And fixed.
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Fairy Tale 1)
At first there was nothing. And then a SUPREME BEING said "BANG" and all was created.
Fairy Tale 2)
At first there was nothing. And then FOR SOME REASON "BANG" all was created.
One of these fairy tales is called "science".
If you don't believe me, read up all you can on the big bang and the accepted scientific notion.
But, for some reason, if you believe in 2, you can ridicule 1.
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Fairy Tale 1)
At first there was nothing. And then a SUPREME BEING said "BANG" and all was created.
Fairy Tale 2)
At first there was nothing. And then FOR SOME REASON "BANG" all was created.
One of these fairy tales is called "science".
If you don't believe me, read up all you can on the big bang and the accepted scientific notion.
But, for some reason, if you believe in 2, you can ridicule 1.
Either a creator always existed or matter always existed.
The Big Bang does not negate a creator.
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Fairy Tale 1)
At first there was nothing. And then a SUPREME BEING said "Let There Be Light" and all was created.
Fairy Tale 2)
At first there was nothing. And then FOR SOME REASON "BANG" all was created.
One of these fairy tales is called "science".
If you don't believe me, read up all you can on the big bang and the accepted scientific notion.
But, for some reason, if you believe in 2, you can ridicule 1.
Fixed
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yep, hitler, mao, and stalin.......and other have kill 10s of millions more people then ANY religion
more people have died because of secularism, then any religion
So REAL persons kill more people than ideologies in books. Surprising.
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Either a creator always existed or matter always existed.
The Big Bang does not negate a creator.
I'm not saying it does. I find it funny that those who wrap themselves in the cloak of science are basing their idea of creation on something very similar to most religions.
Nothing->Bang->Something.
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So REAL persons kill more people than ideologies in books. Surprising.
what are you even talking about, i known that was supposed to be some kind of zinger........but it REALLY fell short
PEOPLE have killed exponentially more PEOPLE under secularism...........the n PEOPLE killed over a religion
they are BOTH ideologies in books fool
do we understand now??? ::) ::)
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I'm not saying it does. I find it funny that those who wrap themselves in the cloak of science are basing their idea of creation on something very similar to most religions.
Nothing->Bang->Something.
Science= explains things through studies of trial and error.
Religion= make up a fairytale claim that a god created everything.
Unbelievable how many morons believes in religion in todays enlightened society.
The bible used to say the earth is flat. Do you believe that to?
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Science= explains things through studies of trial and error.
Religion= make up a fairytale claim that a god created everything.
Unbelievable how many morons believes in religion in todays enlightened society.
The bible used to say the earth is flat. Do you believe that to?
OK..can you enlighten me as to what studies/info/lab results explain the matter state just before and just after the Big Bang?
Can you enlighten me as to the theory/lab results on the state of the matter prior and it's entry point into existence?
And can you also enlighten me as to what Bible verse says the earth is flat?
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what are you even talking about, i known that was supposed to be some kind of zinger........but it REALLY fell short
PEOPLE have killed exponentially more PEOPLE under secularism...........the n PEOPLE killed over a religion
they are BOTH ideologies in books fool
do we understand now??? ::) ::)
Coincidence. And religion is always present, and majority in any group of people will always be religious.
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I'm not saying it does. I find it funny that those who wrap themselves in the cloak of science are basing their idea of creation on something very similar to most religions.
Nothing->Bang->Something.
I suspected you might have been saying this. Just wanted to clarify. These are matters of faith. What we do know is that stuff is here. So either it was always here or a creator that always existed created it. As Carl Sagan use to say, it's just a matter of one step. Where you start out on and begin. So say one of our spacecrafts finally reached another solar system and another planet and, say, they discover a calculator. We can surmise that either someone created that calculator or that somehow, through the random concussions in the universe, the molecules bonded together purely by chance to create that calculator.
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I suspected you might have been saying this. Just wanted to clarify. These are matters of faith. What we do know is that stuff is here. So either it was always here or a creator that always existed created it. As Carl Sagan use to say, it's just a matter of one step. Where you start out on and begin. So say one of our spacecrafts finally reached another solar system and another planet and, say, they discover a calculator. We can surmise that either someone created that calculator or that somehow, through the random concussions in the universe, the molecules bonded together purely by chance to create that calculator.
Godamm Pelluis! U smokin a shit-ton of something aintcha?! Calculators and such??!! LOL
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Godamm Pelluis! U smokin a shit-ton of something aintcha?! Calculators and such??!! LOL
No..it's the well known wrist watch argument.
A good argument.
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No..it's Pascal's watch argument.
And Pascal wasn't an idiot.
Pascal? Aint that teh science fella teachin the dog conditioning tests with a shit-ton rings of a bell? Smoke
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Pascal? Aint that teh science fella teachin the dog conditioning tests with a shit-ton rings of a bell? Smoke
No, not Pascal. I was thinking of Pascal's Wager and subsequently edited my post.
Pascal's wager is good too. ;)
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OK..can you enlighten me as to what studies/info/lab results explain the matter state just before and just after the Big Bang?
No I can't. Neither can you.
Can you enlighten me as to the theory/lab results on the state of the matter prior and it's entry point into existence?
Lab results? It's a theory. And the most widely accepted so far. How can you prove something like the origin of universe with a lab experiment.... It has been shown through studies of the universe, stars etc. that the universe is constantly expanding. Simplified that leads you to believe that the universe started from nothing at some point and started to expand. Anyways I don't know the full theory on it.
And can you also enlighten me as to what Bible verse says the earth is flat?
In the old testament there are quotes that refers to "the ends of the earth". This was ofcourse removed in the new testament not to sound to silly.
Either way if you know history you will know that it was found that the earth is spherical through scientific studies. Before that people assumed the earth is flat.
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Coincidence. And religion is always present, and majority in any group of people will always be religious.
between 46-85% of swedes are atheists. big ass Between number but far for all major groups in sweden are religious hehe
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between 46-85% of swedes are atheists. big ass Between number but far for all major groups in sweden are religious hehe
The remaining % are immigrant muslims ;D
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The remaining % are immigrant muslims ;D
pretty much and a very select few others lol
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OK..can you enlighten me as to what studies/info/lab results explain the matter state just before and just after the Big Bang?
No I can't. Neither can you.
[b]So you got nothin?[/b]
Can you enlighten me as to the theory/lab results on the state of the matter prior and it's entry point into existence?
Lab results? It's a theory. And the most widely accepted so far. How can you prove something like the origin of universe with a lab experiment.... It has been shown through studies of the universe, stars etc. that the universe is constantly expanding. Simplified that leads you to believe that the universe started from nothing at some point and started to expand. Anyways I don't know the full theory on it.
In that vein, religion is a "theory" too. Why piss on one and not the other?
And can you also enlighten me as to what Bible verse says the earth is flat?
In the old testament there are quotes that refers to "the ends of the earth". This was ofcourse removed in the new testament not to sound to silly.
That's a huge stretch. Sorry.
Either way if you know history you will know that it was found that the earth is spherical through scientific studies. Before that people assumed the earth is flat.
And I wasn't talking about doppler shift/expanding. That's established. I never mentioned doppler shift, expanding, blue shift, red shift, or anything of that nature.
I was talking big bang.
You're talking billions of years after big bang.
Not my point of concern.
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OK..can you enlighten me as to what studies/info/lab results explain the matter state just before and just after the Big Bang?
No I can't. Neither can you.
Can you enlighten me as to the theory/lab results on the state of the matter prior and it's entry point into existence?
Lab results? It's a theory. And the most widely accepted so far. How can you prove something like the origin of universe with a lab experiment.... It has been shown through studies of the universe, stars etc. that the universe is constantly expanding. Simplified that leads you to believe that the universe started from nothing at some point and started to expand. Anyways I don't know the full theory on it.
And can you also enlighten me as to what Bible verse says the earth is flat?
In the old testament there are quotes that refers to "the ends of the earth". This was ofcourse removed in the new testament not to sound to silly.
Either way if you know history you will know that it was found that the earth is spherical through scientific studies. Before that people assumed the earth is flat.
Max, I dont agree with you, but I could respect your opinion until that last part. You think [/i] [/b] that "the ends of the earth" indicates that the people who wrote the Bible thought the earth was flat, and that such a reference was removed in the new testament to correct this inaccuracy? Are you retarded?
Maybe you know more than your average internet genius about science ( or you passed a high school level physics class), but clearly you are braindead when it comes to history and theology. Just a question genius, these scientific studies you speak of that conclude the earth is round--- were they conducted by the time the new testament was written? Do you know when it was written? ::)
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Religion is just what some old babbling fools were telling as a fib to their friends many years ago
Surely no one can actually believe in it????? ;D
your father is about to beat yo ass ;D
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Pascal? Aint that teh science fella teachin the dog conditioning tests with a shit-ton rings of a bell? Smoke
LOL. Ivan Pavlov and Blaise Pascal are quite different.
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Hahaha you know what my father told me...
he said.. "dont tell anyone (he meant family) but I don't believe in that crap/god"
LOL! what country is he from? muslim?
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And I wasn't talking about doppler shift/expanding. That's established. I never mentioned doppler shift, expanding, blue shift, red shift, or anything of that nature.
I was talking big bang.
You're talking billions of years after big bang.
Not my point of concern.
To know what happened before you have to study what happened after.. Either way scientists are not sure of what happened.
Ofcourse creationists are sure that a god snapped his fingers and created everything including earth humans etc.. everything lol ::)
Ignorance is a bliss I guess.
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To know what happened before you have to study what happened after.. Either way scientists are not sure of what happened.
Ofcourse creationists are sure that a god snapped his fingers and created everything including earth humans etc.. everything lol ::)
Ignorance is a bliss I guess.
So your "not sure" trumps religion's "not sure".
Why?
You don't know. Religion doesn't know.
Why do you shit on religion?
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between 46-85% of swedes are atheists. big ass Between number but far for all major groups in sweden are religious hehe
Hey I was going to point out Scandinavians as an exception but it's not always about us. ;)
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We're iranians (not kurdish! XD)
mix that shit up and shit can go down ;D
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So your "not sure" trumps religion's "not sure".
Why?
You don't know. Religion doesn't know.
Why do you shit on religion?
uh religion says a god created everything.
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So your "not sure" trumps religion's "not sure".
Why?
You don't know. Religion doesn't know.
Why do you shit on religion?
"let there be light" And there was!!
God was a great inventor hahahahaha
Good even created earth BEFORE light so he did everything while it was dark! God had some wicked ass night vision also! damn! ;D
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uh religion says a god created everything.
And your science says it all happened in the blink of an eye and their "not sure".
So why shit on religion?
Why?
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Science= explains things through studies of trial and error.
Religion= make up a fairytale claim that a god created everything.
Unbelievable how many morons believes in religion in todays enlightened society.
The bible used to say the earth is flat. Do you believe that to?
I always find it curious that atheist/agnostics always resort to ad hominem attacks. Often as the first resort.
These morons included every President of the United States as well as people like William F. Buckley, Immanuel Kant, Albert Einstein, T.S. Eliot, Winston Churchill, Max Planck, Isaac Newton, Rene Decartes, Galileo..., even Charles Darwin was a Unitarian.
Morons indeed.
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You know what Swede. There was a discussion of homosexuality and homosexual marriage on Finnish tv, and religion of course had a major part in the discussion, although church has little relevance anymore. Over 6000 left the church within the week when they weren't happy about the church's stance on the matter. Thank god if I may say so. :)
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And your science says it all happened in the blink of an eye and their "not sure".
So why shit on religion?
Why?
Because it's fiction. Made up.
I believe in empirical studies to prove things.
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And your science says it all happened in the blink of an eye and their "not sure".
So why shit on religion?
Why?
If I pulled out a book right now and wrote "God is a fag" and wrote bible on the front.
You couldnt claim Im wrong correct? Because thats what someone else did? Not didnt mention the fag part?
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Whu wrote the bible? we have to verity the source?
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If I pulled out a book right now and wrote "Swede is a fag" and wrote bible on the front.
You couldnt claim Im wrong correct? Because thats what someone else did? Not didnt mention the fag part?
Sadly, I could not claim that was incorrect.
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You know what Swede. There was a discussion of homosexuality and homosexual marriage on Finnish tv, and religion of course had a major part in the discussion, although church has little relevance anymore. Over 6000 left the church within the week when they weren't happy about the church's stance on the matter. Thank god if I may say so. :)
so they left because the church didnt ofc agree with it?
awesome
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so they left because the church didnt ofc agree with it?
awesome
Yep, people are getting brighter. No-one should look homosexuality as some kind of perversion anymore (talking about the church).
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Yep, people are getting brighter. No-one should look homosexuality as some kind of perversion anymore (talking about the church).
This actually gives me a little bit of hope in humanity.
Too bad no one will ever understand what a finnish person says ;D ;D
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More people were murdered under secular regimes. Fascism, Nazism, Communism. It's not even remotely close.
And by eliminating Religion this will bring peace on earth how?
It will probably not bring peace on earth. but since religion kills and continue doing the killing... well!!! eliminating religion or at least "the fanatics"definitely will decrease the killing.
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It will probably not bring peace on earth. but since religion kills and continue doing the killing... well!!! eliminating religion or at least "the fanatics"definitely will decrease the killing.
Walk into Mecca and say that.
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Face it, people are getting less religious everyday, my guess is in 1-2 generations true believers will be a minority.. i can understand buddhism tho
Not with the islamic increasing in this rate :-X
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I hate to keep using the same talking points but what is this about all religions are the cause of all the deaths and turmoil. Again show me where you see a large number of christians getting together this day and age and starting any real trouble. You will have a couple of real lunatics here and there that will kill an abortion doctor once in awhile but that is really it. Islam is the religion to blame for all the b.s. The last major conflicts around the world for the last several decades were because they don't know how to act over in the middle east. They're barbarians hundreds of years behind times. Running around with fucking AK's everywhere killing eachother. If they aren't fighting with us they are killing the shit out of eachother.
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uh religion says a god created everything.
Your "religion" says the everything was always there.
Neither can be proven one way or the other. But you pays your money and you takes your choice.
Not everything, if not most things, in life are a sure thing. There are times, my friend, where one sometimes has to take a leap of faith.
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Walk into Mecca and say that.
That would be easy,In Portuguese of course... they will not understand me.
;)
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Yep, people are getting brighter. No-one should look homosexuality as some kind of perversion anymore (talking about the church).
As Europe crumbles.
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I hate to keep using the same talking points but what is this about all religions are the cause of all the deaths and turmoil. Again show me where you see a large number of christians getting together this day and age and starting any real trouble. You will have a couple of real lunatics here and there that will kill an abortion doctor once in awhile but that is really it. Islam is the religion to blame for all the b.s. The last major conflicts around the world for the last several decades were because they don't know how to act over in the middle east. They're barbarians hundreds of years behind times. Running around with fucking AK's everywhere killing eachother. If they aren't fighting with us they are killing the shit out of eachother.
Well!!! Christians they're not killing as much as Muslims... anymore.
They just trying to bring America and the rest of the world to the stone age, by denying science.
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Face it, people are getting less religious everyday, my guess is in 1-2 generations true believers will be a minority.. i can understand buddhism tho
And do you feel the world, society and culture is getting better? Are people more honest, respectful, considerate, even courteous than they were a few generations ago?
Compare TV and music just 50 years ago compared to today. Celebrities today compared to the 1950's. Even bodybuilding back in the IronAge compared to today. Your hair compared to a mere five years ago. ;D
We're doomed!
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That would be easy,In Portuguese of course... they will not understand me.
;)
Rickson by arm bar.
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Your "religion" says the everything was always there.
Neither can be proven one way or the other. But you pays your money and you takes your choice.
Not everything, if not most things, in life are a sure thing. There are times, my friend, where one sometimes has to take a leap of faith.
Science is not religion. It's not faith based. It's evidence based.
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Shit. I can do this all day. Gotta go!
Die Heathens! Die! But don't forget -- Jesus Loves You!
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Well!!! Christians they're not killing as much as Muslims... anymore.
They just trying to bring America and the rest of the world to the stone age, by denying science.
Things are falling apart in the Country because people are gettting less religous. Alll the bullshit you see on tv. The huge hip hop ifluence. Parents don't give a shit what their kids do anymore. This leads to the moral decay. High crime rates, abortions, drug use, single paretns ect.
How does christianity at all stop science from progressing. The liberal arguments are so weak on here its pathetic. Each shitty talking point you bring up gets crushed.
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Well!!! Christians they're not killing as much as Muslims... anymore.
They just trying to bring America and the rest of the world to the stone age, by denying science.
And how are we denying them science? Who held our hand when we went to the moon?
Who tutored us in the Manhattan project?
And who propped us up when we developed the internet? (With help from Britain?)
Who coached Ford when he developed the car?
Who looked over Edison's shoulder when he perfected the light bulb?
Who ran with the Wright Brothers when they flew over the ground?
Who's denying them?
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I think its funny how all the obvious atheists dismiss anyone who doesn't believe in their example of how the earth/universe/humans came to be. And if you don't agree, you are automaticlly considered a bafoon or idiot. It reminds me of the Southpark episode where Cartman went way into the future and no one believed in a God, only in scientific fact. But they all were still fighting based on which version of science they believed that created the universe instead of todays religious bickering. Instead of saying "God Damn you", they said, "Science Damn you." Its amusing that the atheists worship science the same way a Christian/Muslim worships a higher power. And neither can really be proven more than the other, yet each is adament in their belief and dismisses the other entirely.
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I think its funny how all the obvious atheists dismiss anyone who doesn't believe in their example of how the earth/universe/humans came to be. And if you don't agree, you are automaticlly considered a bafoon or idiot. It reminds me of the Southpark episode where Cartman went way into the future and no one believed in a God, only in scientific fact. But they all were still fighting based on which version of science they believed that created the universe instead of todays religious bickering. Instead of saying "God Damn you", they said, "Science Damn you." Its amusing that the atheists worship science the same way a Christian/Muslim worships a higher power. And neither can really be proven more than the other, yet each is adament in their belief and dismisses the other entirely.
Solid point ! :)
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Maxx explain to us again about how the old and new testament are different because in the new testament the phrase "ends of the earth" was removed-- You know, because the authors of the new testament didn't want to look silly for being incorrect about the earth being flat. You also mentioned that this was proven to the authors of the new testament because of scientific research that was conducted at the time.
That was such an amazing realization! Clearly you are very smart! Please continue. I am interested in what else you have to say on the matter.
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I think its funny how all the obvious atheists dismiss anyone who doesn't believe in their example of how the earth/universe/humans came to be. And if you don't agree, you are automaticlly considered a bafoon or idiot. It reminds me of the Southpark episode where Cartman went way into the future and no one believed in a God, only in scientific fact. But they all were still fighting based on which version of science they believed that created the universe instead of todays religious bickering. Instead of saying "God Damn you", they said, "Science Damn you." Its amusing that the atheists worship science the same way a Christian/Muslim worships a higher power. And neither can really be proven more than the other, yet each is adament in their belief and dismisses the other entirely.
Science can't be proven more than religion? Oh brother, stupid comment of the year.
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Haha this christian church girl I used to date is always talking about how shes got "belief" like it's some exclusive awesome club, to me its just social conditioning ingraved deep into their minds, she admits that herself that she's brainwashed because of her family.. really cool nice beautiful girl tho, and she's no prude ;D
Church girls like sex, on lockdown for most of their years turn into nice hoes later on.
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Science can't be proven more than religion? Oh brother, stupid comment of the year.
As far as the universe goes tough guy ::). The big bang theory, pay attention to that last word, theory.
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Church girls like sex, on lockdown for most of their years turn into nice hoes later on.
All that bottled up sexual repression has to explode sooner or later. I just hope I'm at the right place at the right time. ;D
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As far as the universe goes tough guy ::). The big bang theory, pay attention to that last word, theory.
Theory is a pretty fucking mighty word in science, chump. It's not called big bang hypothesis, you know why?
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As Europe crumbles.
Is your god angry with us? Oh no. :-\
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Theory is a pretty fucking mighty word in science, chump. It's not called big bang hypothesis, you know why?
Dude, you are pretty close to being the biggest ra-tard on this board and are owned pretty much daily. So you can suck it Trebeck. I could care less what you have to say # 1 douchefan.
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Dude, you are pretty close to being the biggest ra-tard on this board and are owned pretty much daily. So you can suck it Trebeck. I could care less what you have to say # 1 douchefan.
Says the man with the childlike mind...
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All the peeps flat out ridiculing religion miss the main point...
Why is your "big bang" theory any better?
This is how it goes.
There's nothing.
Bang.
The universe is created! Lo and behold!
Why is this better?
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All the peeps flat out ridiculing religion miss the main point...
Why is your "big bang" theory any better?
This is how it goes.
There's nothing.
Bang.
The universe is created! Lo and behold!
Why is this better?
Lets just say, that everything in the observable universe points to it. ::)
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Lets just say, that everything in the observable universe points to it. ::)
How so? ::)
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All the peeps flat out ridiculing religion miss the main point...
Why is your "big bang" theory any better?
This is how it goes.
There's nothing.
Bang.
The universe is created! Lo and behold!
Why is this better?
# 1 douche fan wont answer your question, even though it is justified and exactly what I was getting around to earlier. Atheists have it all figured out, and if you don't buy in you are a village idiot. # 1 douche fan will just reply with a dumb retort and the rolling eyes ::) because he can't make a good argument to answer the question.
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How so? ::)
Why won't you find it out yourself? It's all in the library near to you, go and read. Or use the internetz.
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Why won't you find it out yourself? It's all in the library near to you, go and read. Or use the internetz.
You seem to be an authority. One such as you can easily dispense with a simple fact supporting your assertion.
I look forward to being enlightened.
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You seem to be an authority. One such as you can easily dispense with a simple fact supporting your assertion.
I look forward to being enlightened.
It's ok to question things. But you should look at the facts before trying to come up with the conclusion of your own, you know? Look up those facts. People have written books about them.
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Things are falling apart in the Country because people are gettting less religous. Alll the bullshit you see on tv. The huge hip hop ifluence. Parents don't give a shit what their kids do anymore. This leads to the moral decay. High crime rates, abortions, drug use, single paretns ect.
How does christianity at all stop science from progressing. The liberal arguments are so weak on here its pathetic. Each shitty talking point you bring up gets crushed.
Do you believe in creation? or evolution?
Most of Christians don't believe in science. so tell me do you really need an old book that was translate zillion times "nobody knows if was translated correctly" to tell you what is right or wrong?
Lets see some points here.
1- hip-hop/heavy metal or whatever. that i can call evolution of freedom.
we live in 2010 not 1940. wake up.
2- Parents you can find bad parents that are religious people too.
3- High crimes, so if you're talking about killing? who kill more people than religion?
4- Abortion, So let's say your mother or your sister was raped. don't you think that she should have an option?
5- Drugs, the mind is a huge place to be sober. why do we have drugs?
because people wants to get high. demand vs supply.
6- Single parents? whats the deal?
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It's ok to question things. But you should look at the facts before trying to come up with the conclusion of your own, you know?
I'm looking..but I don't see a fact supporting your assertion. ???
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I'm looking..but I don't see a fact supporting your assertion. ???
There you go, my child. ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang_theory
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There you go, my child. ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang_theory
Providing a link to a theory that's been widely discussed is not "owning" or "taking command".
It's pointing out the obvious and making no points.
We are all aware of the Big Bang theory. I could have posted a link to this from post 1.
What is your point? Do you think posting a link to a wikipedia page wins you the argument?
Really?
::)
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There you go, my child. ::)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang_theory
too complicated
god created everything
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Providing a link to a theory that's been widely discussed is not "owning" or "taking command".
It's pointing out the obvious and making no points.
We are all aware of the Big Bang theory. I could have posted a link to this from post 1.
What is your point? Do you think posting a link to a wikipedia page wins you the argument?
Really?
::)
Good bye. ;D You have made your mind, keep on believing.
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Good bye. ;D You have made your mind, keep on believing.
Saying "goodbye" and telling me to "keep on believing" isn't winning an argument.
It's running away.
You offered no facts, no evidence. no proof, no papers, no works...nothing.
You simply took your ball and went home.
And Good Bye to you! 8)
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too complicated
god created everything
You notice the old creationist tactic here, ask questions like a 5-year-old until people can't take no more and then declare "guess they just couldn't convince me".
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You notice the old creationist tactic here, ask questions like a 5-year-old until people can't take no more and then declare "guess they just couldn't convince me".
OK..enlighten me with science then...
there was nothing..
bang..
the universe..earth..life..
I beg to know the answers! Can you explain?
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You notice the old creationist tactic here, ask questions like a 5-year-old until people can't take no more and then declare "guess they just couldn't convince me".
No jackass, your big bang theory cannot be proven just like the existence of a God can't be proven. Que your ::) response
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nvm wasn't a good video
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The Big Bang Theory itself doesn't disprove a god. Many religious people do adhere to it without contradiction in their faith. Whether or not there is divine influence behind it has been recently an issue with Hawking, but that is really a separate issue.
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Rickson by arm bar.
How's your Portuguese?
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oreilly is a frustrated idiot. i bet he likes getting sucked by an 12 year old boy.
a type like the coach he is, totally not living in reality.
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oreilly is a frustrated idiot. i bet he likes getting sucked by an 12 year old boy.
a type like the coach he is, totally not living in reality.
Yep.
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oreilly is a frustrated idiot. i bet he likes getting sucked by an 12 year old boy.
a type like the coach he is, totally not living in reality.
Truth hurts :D
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LOL a bunch of liberal godless sheep around these parts. Bill calls it like it is- DEAL WITH IT!
LOL GB is a cess pool of pagen, heathen, left wing libs who hate the USA whether or not they even reside here.