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Title: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Wiggs on December 15, 2010, 10:31:24 AM
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Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: magicuser on December 15, 2010, 10:33:30 AM
awesome


lol


end public school!!!

just give internet connection
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 10:36:51 AM
what was that little bitch thinking? haha, she thought he would get ko'ed?  ;D
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 10:42:58 AM
who shot him?

did he manage to kill anyone?

what happened to his wife?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: newmom on December 15, 2010, 10:45:34 AM
fucking sad that you can't even go to a school board meeting or church without fear of being shot at. What is wrong with people ???
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
wtf, he missed everyone? what a fucking fail haha
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 10:49:17 AM
fucking sad that you can't even go to a school board meeting or church without fear of being shot at. What is wrong with people ???

I dont think the guy that he was shooting at first is mr innocent either.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 15, 2010, 10:49:29 AM
fucking sad that you can't even go to a school board meeting or church without fear of being shot at. What is wrong with people ???
I'm thinking of buying a Tank and full armor to go through a drive thru.  8)
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Wiggs on December 15, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
who shot him?

did he manage to kill anyone?

what happened to his wife?

Security shot him.

He didn't kill anyone but the first guy was wounded.

His wife was laid off.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 10:55:22 AM
Security shot him.

He didn't kill anyone but the first guy was wounded.

His wife was laid off.

Pretty gutsy of the security officer shooting from that angle..
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: 240 is Back on December 15, 2010, 10:56:22 AM
arm the teachers.  prob solved!
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: French on December 15, 2010, 11:00:32 AM
weapons prohibition  8)
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 11:01:21 AM
arm the teachers.  prob solved!

thats not america  ;D

when shit goes down in america, as it HOPEFULLY DOES its gonna go down hard with everyone and their grandma owning a gun.


just make a 300 person group, everyone wear masks and the same clothes, buy 20 illegal guns, lay the guns on a table, put all the clothes/masks on, 20 random people in the grop pick up the guns without saying a world, and go around killing every corrupt bastard you can find, then just throw away then guns and keep your mouth shut when interigation starts becuse no one knows who did what hehehehehehe
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: spinnis on December 15, 2010, 11:04:20 AM
...I want a focking gun
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: jaejonna on December 15, 2010, 11:05:46 AM
where is the remainder of the tape where the fat fuck ends his life ?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Wiggs on December 15, 2010, 11:07:15 AM
where is the remainder of the tape where the fat fuck ends his life ?

good question.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: dov on December 15, 2010, 12:22:37 PM
This is precisely why 2nd Amendnent exists and will always exist.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: king on December 15, 2010, 12:35:30 PM
he was shooting blanks.


Go to 2:45
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: viking1 on December 15, 2010, 01:01:11 PM
Epic Beard Man and Sly would've gotten the job done!!! 8)
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 01:07:45 PM
School boards are archaic and outdated.  There is no reason to still have a school board, they are filled with people who have an agenda and have no idea what is best for children.  Most people who join school boards have ulterior motives, either they want to pad there resume or they want to get their relatives jobs within the school district.  They also reap the benefits of going on vacations to "do research" on board topics.  For example, taking a trip to Arizona to look at playgrounds for one whole week while eating at lavish resturants and pileing up a bill for taxpayers to foot.  Just like this video school boards are filled with egotistical, arrogant, narcissists that put themselves higher then everyone else including the children they believe they are helping.  YOU THINK LEE PRIEST IS DELUSIONAL? Go to any school board meeting and you'll find out the meaning of that word.  First off, school districts don't care about children, they care about money (grants) and numbers.  Too bad the taxpayers are so blind and complacent, they are like the contented cows in the field.  Learning for all, whatever it takes?  Yeah right, you mean, Fudge the numbers, and pass everyone, especially ghetto boys that can't read or write but can play basketball for Syracuse because it looks good the school.  And while we're at it, lets use our school attorney to defend his drug dealings because the taxpayers don't know any better.  Yeah, School boards, lets not shoot them up.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: old_lifter on December 15, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
gotta give the lady credit for trying to do something as those other pussies just watched, waiting to get possibly killed
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: makaveli25 on December 15, 2010, 01:12:37 PM
School boards are archaic and outdated.  There is no reason to still have a school board, they are filled with people who have an agenda and have no idea what is best for children.  Most people who join school boards have ulterior motives, either they want to pad there resume or they want to get their relatives jobs within the school district.  They also reap the benefits of going on vacations to "do research" on board topics.  For example, taking a trip to Arizona to look at playgrounds for one whole week while eating at lavish resturants and pileing up a bill for taxpayers to foot.  Just like this video school boards are filled with egotistical, arrogant, narcissists that put themselves higher then everyone else including the children they believe they are helping.  YOU THINK LEE PRIEST IS DELUSIONAL? Go to any school board meeting and you'll find out the meaning of that word.  First off, school districts don't care about children, they care about money (grants) and numbers.  Too bad the taxpayers are so blind and complacent, they are like the contented cows in the field.  Learning for all, whatever it takes?  Yeah right, you mean, Fudge the numbers, and pass everyone, especially ghetto boys that can't read or write but can play basketball for Syracuse because it looks good the school.  And while we're at it, lets use our school attorney to defend his drug dealings because the taxpayers don't know any better.  Yeah, School boards, lets not shoot them up.

This post fucking nails it.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Master Blaster on December 15, 2010, 01:14:02 PM
Dorian was better
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: makaveli25 on December 15, 2010, 01:14:09 PM
You also know whos parents are the biggest suck ups/ kiss asses the ones who join the pta and have to be apart of these ridicolous meetings.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Princess L on December 15, 2010, 01:16:38 PM
School boards are archaic and outdated.  There is no reason to still have a school board, they are filled with people who have an agenda and have no idea what is best for children.  Most people who join school boards have ulterior motives, either they want to pad there resume or they want to get their relatives jobs within the school district.  They also reap the benefits of going on vacations to "do research" on board topics.  For example, taking a trip to Arizona to look at playgrounds for one whole week while eating at lavish resturants and pileing up a bill for taxpayers to foot.  Just like this video school boards are filled with egotistical, arrogant, narcissists that put themselves higher then everyone else including the children they believe they are helping.  YOU THINK LEE PRIEST IS DELUSIONAL? Go to any school board meeting and you'll find out the meaning of that word.  First off, school districts don't care about children, they care about money (grants) and numbers.  Too bad the taxpayers are so blind and complacent, they are like the contented cows in the field.  Learning for all, whatever it takes?  Yeah right, you mean, Fudge the numbers, and pass everyone, especially ghetto boys that can't read or write but can play basketball for Syracuse because it looks good the school.  And while we're at it, lets use our school attorney to defend his drug dealings because the taxpayers don't know any better.  Yeah, School boards, lets not shoot them up.

My mother-in-law was a school board president of a large district for many years.  It was a voluntary, unpaid position.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 01:31:28 PM

My mother-in-law was a school board president of a large district for many years.  It was a voluntary, unpaid position.

I know, read what I said about why "MOST" of these people join school boards.  The voluntary part is the exception, usually they are voted in by election.  The problem with the elections are that school districts in economically depressed areas, people do not vote.  So the person who is running gets in by friends or family (I've seen school board elections where people received only 20 votes and won)  The more affluent communities you have bussiness people who run where money is no object.  These types are members of a handful of groups or organizations (give donations) and therefore are backed by those groups locking in votes.  They also have the money to campaign, buying signs, advertisments, radio and TV spots. 

May I ask you what were your monther-in-laws qualifications to be on a school board? (former teacher, professor, child advacate anyone with a background knowledge of education)  We already have politicians handing down mandates when they have no clue what those mandates are going to do.  So this is why I ask. 

Also,  I do believe we should have a few parents on a school board. 
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: epic_alien on December 15, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
its just gonna get worse, the government os bleeding the people after they gave the banks money, fuck that


im gonna stay strapped with my gat
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Earl1972 on December 15, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
florida once again making national news for a heinous crime

i'm convinced the nation's biggest whack jobs all move there

E
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 02:25:43 PM
its just gonna get worse, the government os bleeding the people after they gave the banks money, fuck that


im gonna stay strapped with my gat


Has nothing to do with the government.  Its People who are greedy put in positions that are in place to try and help children when all they are doing is helping themselves in some direct or indirect way.  For example,  in a local city nearby, why is a dry cleaning owner, president of the board of education?  In fact, he didn't even start the business, his father did, so all he's playing with is old money.  It is a crime what is going on in America's educational system and people don't care.  The mentality is as long as my kid can pass a test but one should also question, did your child REALLY pass the test or was it fudged to make the school and teacher look better?  

Also everyone with children in the public school system should realize this also holds true with discipline.  Many disturbed children that go into "wild" sessions and hurt or threat others aren't even suspended  or dealt with according to one's schools policy.  They are sent to the office in some situations for a day or two, only to return to their classroom to cause further disturbances and hinder other childrens education.

Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: newmom on December 15, 2010, 03:01:06 PM
Gee, I think I'm going to the PTA meeting next week with a bullet proof vest.

I agree Fallsview, some parents should be on the school board
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
HAHAHAHAHAH, just 7 minutes ago, read this story.  Another scum bag that "represents the children".  PROVES MY POINT!!!!!

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/Embattled-school-board-member-resigns

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - Buffalo's School Board meets Wednesday night, and the question arising is: will a board member who's spent a lot of time in Maryland sit down with her colleagues?

Vivian Evans still has a home in Buffalo, but she now spends most of her time working in Maryland. However, she's stayed on the Buffalo School Board and doesn't see the cause of concern.

If Evans were to miss three meetings in a row, she would be removed from the School Board, per the policy in place. This almost happened in early November , but Evans showed up to the third meeting to ensure she kept her seat.

>> To learn more about this story, check out George Richert's report

The School Board has considered trying to remove Evans , but so far, there's been no way to remove Evans from the board under the district's policy. Now, the board has found a way to remove Evans from their ranks.

However, before the board could move to remove Evans, she resigned effective January 5th by a letter that was read at Wednesday night's meeting in her absense. The resignation was accepted by School Board President Ralph Hernandez. Now, board members are going through the process of posting for the position. The deadline for applications will be January 7th by noon.

Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
Here is another article about it.  Only reason she resigned is because they CAUGHT her using her "district paid" cell phone to call home.

Vivian Evans phones home
Dec 15, 2010 7:46:26 AM / Comment
More than four months ago, Vivian Evans announced that she'd taken a job in Maryland, but planned to keep her seat on the Buffalo Board of Education. Ever since then, she's refused to talk about the specifics of where she lives or how much time she actually spends in Buffalo, among other things.

Well, maybe Evans isn't talking, but her cell phone records are.

 Our story today reports that the past few months of bills for her district-owned cell phone indicate that she moved to Maryland at the end of July. She didn't come back to Buffalo at all in August or in October, according to the phone records.

(In September, when I prefaced a question to her by noting that she's living full time in Maryland, she shot back: "Am I? I think that's an assumption everyone's making." Hmm...)

While Evans has been living 400 miles away, she has not, in fact, been out of touch with the district. The East District rep has remained in contact with many of her fellow board members, as well as Superintendent James A. Williams, the records show.

Evans has been in closest contact with at large board member Florence Johnson; since
Evans moved to Maryland, the two exchanged more than 65 phone calls through the end of October. Evans and Christopher Jacobs exchanged about 30 calls in that time. And Evans has been in touch with the superintendent well over a dozen times.
 
But that's not all Evans has been using her district cell phone for.

She has also used her phone to call a variety of other people and places, including: New
York State's Department of Labor unemployment claims line; the New York State Department of
Taxation; M&T Bank; Bank of America; TIAA-CREF; the New York State Income Tax Protest and
Resolutions Bureau; the New York State Retirement System; and her ex-husband (15 times).

The district's cell phone policy, it might be worth noting, states that "employees shall make every attempt to use their district-owned cell phones for business purposes only."

Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on December 15, 2010, 03:31:08 PM
You can't fuck with people forever.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 03:34:05 PM
You can't fuck with people forever.

Yes Mr. Klaus, you are right.  Sometimes people can't handle it and their coping mechanisms fail.  They reach a breaking point and can't return.  Depression can lead to this and often does. 
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2010, 03:51:03 PM
Why on earth did Mimnaugh think I`d be at a school board meeting in a totally different state?  ???
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Princess L on December 15, 2010, 04:07:35 PM
I know, read what I said about why "MOST" of these people join school boards.  The voluntary part is the exception, usually they are voted in by election.  The problem with the elections are that school districts in economically depressed areas, people do not vote.  So the person who is running gets in by friends or family (I've seen school board elections where people received only 20 votes and won)  The more affluent communities you have bussiness people who run where money is no object.  These types are members of a handful of groups or organizations (give donations) and therefore are backed by those groups locking in votes.  They also have the money to campaign, buying signs, advertisments, radio and TV spots. 

May I ask you what were your monther-in-laws qualifications to be on a school board? (former teacher, professor, child advacate anyone with a background knowledge of education)  We already have politicians handing down mandates when they have no clue what those mandates are going to do.  So this is why I ask. 

Also,  I do believe we should have a few parents on a school board. 

She was a high school math teacher (algebra, I think) and I believe semi-retired when elected as president.  The first woman in that district to hold the position.  She raised her family in that community and all the kids went through that school system.  It was extremely stressful and I recall her getting calls all hours of the night from parents, but she was determined to make a difference.  And she did.  Her passing was front page news and her service was the largest I've ever been to. 
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: newmom on December 15, 2010, 04:08:56 PM
She was a high school math teacher (algebra, I think) and I believe semi-retired when elected as president.  The first woman in that district to hold the position.  She raised her family in that community and all the kids went through that school system.  It was extremely stressful and I recall her getting calls all hours of the night from parents, but she was determined to make a difference.  And she did.  Her passing was front page news and her service was the largest I've ever been to. 

Good for her, that's determination of making a difference. Unpaid and getting calls at all hours
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: hrspwr on December 15, 2010, 04:12:13 PM
Poor weapons choice, poor tactics, piss poor exit strategy. I give him a 2 on initiative though.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 15, 2010, 04:21:08 PM
Poor weapons choice, poor tactics, piss poor exit strategy. I give him a 2 on initiative though.

Seriously, idiot should have brought an MP5 or Uzi and body armor
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: The True Adonis on December 15, 2010, 04:26:56 PM
Seriously, idiot should have brought an MP5 or Uzi and body armor

What for?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 15, 2010, 04:29:03 PM
What for?

Well he was intent on killing these guys, if you're gonna do something at least do it right.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Master Blaster on December 15, 2010, 04:32:59 PM
Well he was intent on killing these guys, if you're gonna do something at least do it right.


an eight barrel, and he should have dressed up like a navi from Avatar and brought in a boom box blasting the sugar hill gangs "rappers delight"

(http://weapons.travellercentral.com/shotguns/bording_gun.gif)
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 15, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
an eight barrel, and he should have dressed up like a navi from Avatar and brought in a boom box blasting the sugar hill gangs "rappers delight"

(http://weapons.travellercentral.com/shotguns/bording_gun.gif)

LOLOL
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 15, 2010, 05:28:16 PM
once again, queer midgets like swede think this video's somehow awesome .  he whips out his lube and masturbates to some loser at life shooting a gun (poorly) at an innocent man.

swede, you're a fucking loser man.  i give you an A for your imagination, where you picture a world where hooded people play some kind of vigilante.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 06:17:11 PM
She was a high school math teacher (algebra, I think) and I believe semi-retired when elected as president.  The first woman in that district to hold the position.  She raised her family in that community and all the kids went through that school system.  It was extremely stressful and I recall her getting calls all hours of the night from parents, but she was determined to make a difference.  And she did.  Her passing was front page news and her service was the largest I've ever been to. 

Prin, I think she derserved to be there.  She at least knew what was going on in the schools and what education is all about along with what is handed down from the Feds to the State to the schools.  My problem are people that abuse and used the school district to further there resume and pad there pockets.  Gourmet meals, trips, freebies, you name it.  I have a hard time understanding how a Dry Cleaning owner can help a school district or that third grader coming from a broken home struggling in school.  I've seen board members that haven't even stepped into a classroom and show up to the meetings with "doggie bags" to take home food for there wives/husbands.  BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS.......

WHY IS THERE A BOARD OF EDUCATION?

HERE IS THE ANSWER:  ALL THE DISTRICTS IN A COUNTY SHOULD REPORT TO ONE REGIONAL BOARD AND THAT BOARD WOULD REPORT TO THE COMMISIONER OF EDUCATION. 

PROBLEM SOLVED.

Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: MP on December 15, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
gotta give the lady credit for trying to do something as those other pussies just watched, waiting to get possibly killed

Yeah, that lady is the untold story in all of this.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: MP on December 15, 2010, 06:20:04 PM
I dont think the guy that he was shooting at first is mr innocent either.

Once again, you prove to be a complete idiot. God you're a moron.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: StickStickly on December 15, 2010, 07:07:21 PM
Well he was intent on killing these guys, if you're gonna do something at least do it right.

Really? Really? He was intent on killing someone when he came in with blanks?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Princess L on December 15, 2010, 08:24:19 PM
he was shooting blanks.


Go to 2:45

Although it's mentioned in the video he (a victim) thinks they're blanks, I haven't seen/heard any other news media report that.  Weren't there some injuries and bullet holes?  According to his wife, he was an excellent marksman and probably intentionally missed.
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: marty31672 on December 15, 2010, 08:24:38 PM
fake
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 08:28:28 PM
Maybe steroids were to blame?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2010, 10:19:07 PM
HAHAHAHAHAH, just 7 minutes ago, read this story.  Another scum bag that "represents the children".  PROVES MY POINT!!!!!

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/Embattled-school-board-member-resigns

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - Buffalo's School Board meets Wednesday night, and the question arising is: will a board member who's spent a lot of time in Maryland sit down with her colleagues?

Vivian Evans still has a home in Buffalo, but she now spends most of her time working in Maryland. However, she's stayed on the Buffalo School Board and doesn't see the cause of concern.

If Evans were to miss three meetings in a row, she would be removed from the School Board, per the policy in place. This almost happened in early November , but Evans showed up to the third meeting to ensure she kept her seat.

>> To learn more about this story, check out George Richert's report

The School Board has considered trying to remove Evans , but so far, there's been no way to remove Evans from the board under the district's policy. Now, the board has found a way to remove Evans from their ranks.

However, before the board could move to remove Evans, she resigned effective January 5th by a letter that was read at Wednesday night's meeting in her absense. The resignation was accepted by School Board President Ralph Hernandez. Now, board members are going through the process of posting for the position. The deadline for applications will be January 7th by noon.


It doesn't support anything you say...and also you know very, very little about school boards, PTAs, etc...kinda like the law and charges...

Wiggs, it was reported that he shot himself?  ???
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 15, 2010, 10:33:27 PM
what was the outcome of this?? did the guy die?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
what was the outcome of this?? did the guy die?
Yeah, it was reported on the ABC Nightly News that dude shot himself...this was reported like two days ago...
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 15, 2010, 10:54:11 PM
It doesn't support anything you say...and also you know very, very little about school boards, PTAs, etc...kinda like the law and charges...

Wiggs, it was reported that he shot himself?  ???

Hey Mr. Parker what thread are you reading? So I take it you work in the educational field, maybe you're a teaching assistant, cafateria aid, etc.etc.? So you think this woman in the above paragraph knew anything about what was going on in that school district?  She wouldn't give up her seat and she wasn't even living in the city of Buffalo BUT she was reaping the benefits of being on the board, resume, freebies ( like the phone she was making calls on)  Yes, her trustwothiness spoke volumes.  That's the type of person I want making decisions about my money, children and what is best for the operations of buildings within the school district. Every so often I get into debates with these kids that haven't seen anything more intense then a college prank.  They go to school for some obscure liberal arts degree that they can wipe their ass with  because they couldn't make up their minds what they wanted to be when they grow up. Mr. Parker, you are one of these types of people.  You are being ignorant.  Nothing was metioned about a PTA, that is not a school board!. Anytime you want to debate the field of Education with me feel free to but I do guarantee, you will lose.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Parker on December 15, 2010, 11:14:36 PM
Hey Mr. Parker what thread are you reading? So I take it you work in the educational field, maybe you're a teaching assistant, cafateria aid, etc.etc.? So you think this woman in the above paragraph knew anything about what was going on in that school district?  She wouldn't give up her seat and she wasn't even living in the city of Buffalo BUT she was reaping the benefits of being on the board, resume, freebies ( like the phone she was making calls on)  Yes, her trustwothiness spoke volumes.  That's the type of person I want making decisions about my money, children and what is best for the operations of buildings within the school district. Every so often I get into debates with these kids that haven't seen anything more intense then a college prank.  They go to school for some obscure liberal arts degree that they can wipe their ass with  because they couldn't make up their minds what they wanted to be when they grow up. Mr. Parker, you are one of these types of people.  You are being ignorant.  Nothing was metioned about a PTA, that is not a school board!. Anytime you want to debate the field of Education with me feel free to but I do guarantee, you will lose.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One, you have to see what stipulations that the school board has, go into what the requirments are. Does it say that she has to live in Buffalo, NY, or that county? You never mentioned that.Do, I agree with it, no I do not. But, you make an assumption of what a person's creditials are to be on the school board, but then ask what they are...meaning you don't know. If you want to argue about education, first you must grasp what the creditials are to be on the boards, to be a teacher, or a administrator. For instance, the majority of coutnies, and espeically in Maryland you must have a 4 yr degree, and have passed the Praxis Exam ( I have done that), and they also require you to have a Master's Degree after teaching for a certain amount (or it is recommended), and to be a Administrator, one must have a Master's...many have Phds. Many posisitions require some teaching experience....many Admins, try to get away from the teaching, because kids and the parents are bad (that is across the nation), so they don't want to deal with it. I come from a family of educators. I have a dual degree in History-Secondary Education...but, I do not teach...I also know teachers as well

You go on about assumptions, yet you don't know the whole story, neither do i, you only have what is written...as I said before in another thread that there are thre sides to each story, your's, mine, and the truth...One must understand the qualifications to be on the board, the board's rules and regs, why she moved to Maryland, or does she have a temporary home there, a winter home, or is she going thru a divorce? All angles must be analyzed...

Also, I mentioned the PTA because someone else mentioned it...actually I believe if more people in the inner cities were in the PTA that many things would change in those schools.   
   
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 15, 2010, 11:21:22 PM
maybe it was Fallsview's husband who was the shooter?
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 16, 2010, 01:09:51 AM
One, you have to see what stipulations that the school board has, go into what the requirments are. Does it say that she has to live in Buffalo, NY, or that county? You never mentioned that.Do, I agree with it, no I do not. But, you make an assumption of what a person's creditials are to be on the school board, but then ask what they are...meaning you don't know. If you want to argue about education, first you must grasp what the creditials are to be on the boards, to be a teacher, or a administrator. For instance, the majority of coutnies, and espeically in Maryland you must have a 4 yr degree, and have passed the Praxis Exam ( I have done that), and they also require you to have a Master's Degree after teaching for a certain amount (or it is recommended), and to be a Administrator, one must have a Master's...many have Phds. Many posisitions require some teaching experience....many Admins, try to get away from the teaching, because kids and the parents are bad (that is across the nation), so they don't want to deal with it. I come from a family of educators. I have a dual degree in History-Secondary Education...but, I do not teach...I also know teachers as well

You go on about assumptions, yet you don't know the whole story, neither do i, you only have what is written...as I said before in another thread that there are thre sides to each story, your's, mine, and the truth...One must understand the qualifications to be on the board, the board's rules and regs, why she moved to Maryland, or does she have a temporary home there, a winter home, or is she going thru a divorce? All angles must be analyzed...

Also, I mentioned the PTA because someone else mentioned it...actually I believe if more people in the inner cities were in the PTA that many things would change in those schools.  
  

I am a big advocate of PTA's and Parrent partners.  When I worked for local schools I was a community leader for the kids in the inner city.  I could talk to parents where others couldn't because I was very well known within their neighborhood, so yes, I am a big believer about parents getting actively involved.  School boards are a thing of the past though, there is no need for each school district to have one.  There are no qualifications to be on school board, I've even seen janitors on some. Some school boards are elected by the Mayor, and what does that tell you? My problem and it should be every parents problem is that a janitor or a political hack  is not equipped to make descions of what goes on in the classroom.  With the woman in the above story one must ask these questions:  What were her motives for not giving up her seat when she no longer lived there?  If she truly cared,why wouldn't she give up her seat for someone who is actually living in the  communtiy and can be a voice for it?  Why wouldn't she tell the truth about living somewhere else forcing the local newpaper, with the help of the freedom of information act to see telephone records that finaly broke the story wide open and forced her to resign?  When you deal with education there needs to be transparency.  Why is it required to do background checks for teachers and other staff but not required for board members? Why is it not required for all schools across the nation to mandatory drug test all school workers?   Your missing the point, regardless of what is "required" it boils down to what is RIGHT!   I worked for the public school system for 12 years and currently work 3-5 days in Albany doing "things".  If you read my earlier posts it stated that its the Feds that send it down to the State then to the school.  No child left behind looks great, all 900 pages of it, but does it work?  Not really but that would take way too much time here.  Requirments are nice but what really matters is, does it work?  And the same goes for people who are on school boards.  When you have people who have no clue what is involved in education making decisions, how are they the "watch dog" for the taxpayers and children?  It makes no sense for you to play devils advocate for the woman in Buffalo.  Buffalo is a depressed city that has low voter turn out, thus making it difficult to fill a school board with people who are qualified or able to make competent choices. The school board for each district needs to go away and one board needs to be set up that is centralized for the county.  This way superintendents can't play tricks and do what ever they want. By doing this, it keeps that one district from being "closed off"  where all the books are wide open. Take for example the Niagara Falls school district.  We blew that school district wide open for school board members giving kickbacks to there friends and taking elaborate trips.  The sad thing is, it wasn't a crime for not taking bids and those school board officials are still in place, still milking every freebie and penny they can get of the taxpayers money. Keep your Parent partner groups and build on that because those are the types of groups that speak for children of every race and economic class-their voices can be heard where they weren't with the business person wearing the $1000 dollar suit.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Parker on December 16, 2010, 01:15:19 AM
I am a big advocate of PTA's and Parrent partners.  When I worked for local schools I was a community leader for the kids in the inner city.  I could talk to parents where others couldn't because I was very well known within their neighborhood, so yes, I am a big believer about parents getting actively involved.  School boards are a thing of the past though, there is no need for each school district to have one.  There are no qualifications to be on school board, I've even seen janitors on some. Some school boards are elected by the Mayor, and what does that tell you? My problem and it should be every parents problem is that a janitor or a political hack  is not equipped to make descions of what goes on in the classroom.  With the woman in the above story one must ask these questions:  What were her motives for not giving up her seat when she no longer lived there?  If she truly cared,why wouldn't she give up her seat for someone who is actually living in the  communtiy and can be a voice for it?  Why wouldn't she tell the truth about living somewhere else forcing the local newpaper, with the help of the freedom of information act to see telephone records that finaly broke the story wide open and forced her to resign?  When you deal with education there needs to be transparency.  Why is it required to do background checks for teachers and other staff but not required for board members? Why is it not required for all schools across the nation to manatory drug test all school workers?   Your missing the point, regardless of what is "required" it boils down to what is RIGHT!   I worked for the public school system for 12 years and currently work 3-5 days in Albany doing "things".  If you read my earlier posts it stated that its the Feds that send it down to the State then to the school.  No child left behind looks great, all 900 pages of it, but does it work?  Not really but that would take way too much time here.  Requirments are nice but what really matters is, does it work?  And the same goes for people who are on school boards.  When you have people who have no clue what is involved in education making decisions, how are they the "watch dog" for the taxpayers and children?  It makes no sense for you to play devils advocate for the woman in Buffalo.  Buffalo is a depressed city that has low voter turn out, thus making it difficult to fill a school board with people who are qualified or able to make competent choices. The school board for each district needs to go away and one board needs to be set up that is centralized for the county.  This way superintendents can't play tricks and do what ever they want. By doing this, it keeps that one district from being "closed off"  where all the books are wide open. Take for example the Niagara Falls school district.  We blew that school district wide open for school board members giving kickbacks to there friends and taking elaborate trips.  The sad thing is, it wasn't a crime for not taking bids and those school board officials are still in place, still milking every freebie and penny they can get of the taxpayers money. Keep your Parent partner groups and build on that because those are the types of groups that speak for children of every race and economic class-their voices can be heard where they weren't with the business person wearing the $1000 dollar suit.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
i understand i had a long post..but please use paragraphs...in short, I do agree with you, but each state, county have diff standards---hence a janitor being on a school board...

I would answer the rest, but I cannot right now...
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: Fallsview on December 16, 2010, 03:23:32 AM
i understand i had a long post..but please use paragraphs...in short, I do agree with you, but each state, county have diff standards---hence a janitor being on a school board...

I would answer the rest, but I cannot right now...

Ok,  I tried to make this a clear and concise as I could for you to understand.  Lets go off topic and talk about Rosa Parks.  It was a "REQUIREMENT" for all blacks to sit at the back of the bus, correct?  BUT because she challenged that law, requirement, etc., attention was brought to it and that racist law was later questioned and done away with.  If you were around back in those days would you say, there are two sides to that story?   So, because school districts are like there own little private government. You get very vague often sometimes unclear requirements of what should go on in that body.  They set this up so there is "wiggle room" and sometimes that wiggle room is put in place for the benefit of the school district NOT the children or taxpayer shelling out the money.  I have dealt with people like you (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way) who lack rigidness to get behind something and follow through.  They have a hard time making decisions because they lack the fortitude to "challenge the status que". This type of person can be very dangerous and often hard to work with because you never get a glympse of what they really stand for and what side of the issues they are really behind.  If you have family in education, please by all means ask them to share there experiences with teaching children and what mandates are given by the state.  If they give you a real truthful answer, they will tell you how out of touch these people are and what goes on in the classroom. You have politicians making the educational laws based on how "hot" the issue is and how much money is being generated by it-period.  The same goes for school boards.  They get in there little secret society where one hand washes the other and nepotism reigns supreme. Now, there are some good school boards but that is the minority not the majority.

Getting back to this Evans lady.  So you believe she was fully capable of performing her school board duties THREE states away?  So you believe there are two sides to this story? Lets face it, this is wrong on so many levels.  She moved to Maryland in July and only returned to Buffalo three different times.  When asked questions about her situation, she dodged all of them and didn't even have the decency to face the board with her resignation, she had someone else read it.   Even though Evans does have an impeccable resume this only proves my point that much of being on a Board of Education is a resume booster.  Did Miss Evans have the children in mind when she did all this?  One can only assume she held on to the position in Buffalo just in case the new one in Maryland didn't work out. How long was she going to keep this charade up for?  If Miss Evans was a decent person she would have helped find a suitable replacement for her job that spoke for her side of the community.  She let the children down because not only did this issue leave her communty without a voice, it distracted the board from doing its other duties by causing a media circus in the board room. Shameful!

So I don't write in paragraphs and you use improper slang english-we're even...didn't know I was being graded on GetBig.  It is very late and I am writing fast. Forgive me and remember you started with the Ad Hominem, I didn't.  
  
Title: Re: Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video
Post by: billbigsby on December 16, 2010, 10:01:24 AM
School boards are archaic and outdated.  There is no reason to still have a school board, they are filled with people who have an agenda and have no idea what is best for children.  Most people who join school boards have ulterior motives, either they want to pad there resume or they want to get their relatives jobs within the school district.  They also reap the benefits of going on vacations to "do research" on board topics.  For example, taking a trip to Arizona to look at playgrounds for one whole week while eating at lavish resturants and pileing up a bill for taxpayers to foot.  Just like this video school boards are filled with egotistical, arrogant, narcissists that put themselves higher then everyone else including the children they believe they are helping.  YOU THINK LEE PRIEST IS DELUSIONAL? Go to any school board meeting and you'll find out the meaning of that word.  First off, school districts don't care about children, they care about money (grants) and numbers.  Too bad the taxpayers are so blind and complacent, they are like the contented cows in the field.  Learning for all, whatever it takes?  Yeah right, you mean, Fudge the numbers, and pass everyone, especially ghetto boys that can't read or write but can play basketball for Syracuse because it looks good the school.  And while we're at it, lets use our school attorney to defend his drug dealings because the taxpayers don't know any better.  Yeah, School boards, lets not shoot them up.


Fucking brilliant and well put!