Shooting at a schoolboard meeting video

[Fallsview]

Maybe steroids were to blame?

[Parker]

HAHAHAHAHAH, just 7 minutes ago, read this story.  Another scum bag that "represents the children".  PROVES MY POINT!!!!!

http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/buffalo/Embattled-school-board-member-resigns

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - Buffalo's School Board meets Wednesday night, and the question arising is: will a board member who's spent a lot of time in Maryland sit down with her colleagues?

Vivian Evans still has a home in Buffalo, but she now spends most of her time working in Maryland. However, she's stayed on the Buffalo School Board and doesn't see the cause of concern.

If Evans were to miss three meetings in a row, she would be removed from the School Board, per the policy in place. This almost happened in early November , but Evans showed up to the third meeting to ensure she kept her seat.

>> To learn more about this story, check out George Richert's report

The School Board has considered trying to remove Evans , but so far, there's been no way to remove Evans from the board under the district's policy. Now, the board has found a way to remove Evans from their ranks.

However, before the board could move to remove Evans, she resigned effective January 5th by a letter that was read at Wednesday night's meeting in her absense. The resignation was accepted by School Board President Ralph Hernandez. Now, board members are going through the process of posting for the position. The deadline for applications will be January 7th by noon.

It doesn't support anything you say...and also you know very, very little about school boards, PTAs, etc...kinda like the law and charges...

Wiggs, it was reported that he shot himself? 

[JOHN MATRIX]

what was the outcome of this?? did the guy die?

[Parker]

what was the outcome of this?? did the guy die?

Yeah, it was reported on the ABC Nightly News that dude shot himself...this was reported like two days ago...

[Fallsview]

It doesn't support anything you say...and also you know very, very little about school boards, PTAs, etc...kinda like the law and charges...

Wiggs, it was reported that he shot himself? 

Hey Mr. Parker what thread are you reading? So I take it you work in the educational field, maybe you're a teaching assistant, cafateria aid, etc.etc.? So you think this woman in the above paragraph knew anything about what was going on in that school district?  She wouldn't give up her seat and she wasn't even living in the city of Buffalo BUT she was reaping the benefits of being on the board, resume, freebies ( like the phone she was making calls on)  Yes, her trustwothiness spoke volumes.  That's the type of person I want making decisions about my money, children and what is best for the operations of buildings within the school district. Every so often I get into debates with these kids that haven't seen anything more intense then a college prank.  They go to school for some obscure liberal arts degree that they can wipe their ass with  because they couldn't make up their minds what they wanted to be when they grow up. Mr. Parker, you are one of these types of people.  You are being ignorant.  Nothing was metioned about a PTA, that is not a school board!. Anytime you want to debate the field of Education with me feel free to but I do guarantee, you will lose.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Parker]

Hey Mr. Parker what thread are you reading? So I take it you work in the educational field, maybe you're a teaching assistant, cafateria aid, etc.etc.? So you think this woman in the above paragraph knew anything about what was going on in that school district?  She wouldn't give up her seat and she wasn't even living in the city of Buffalo BUT she was reaping the benefits of being on the board, resume, freebies ( like the phone she was making calls on)  Yes, her trustwothiness spoke volumes.  That's the type of person I want making decisions about my money, children and what is best for the operations of buildings within the school district. Every so often I get into debates with these kids that haven't seen anything more intense then a college prank.  They go to school for some obscure liberal arts degree that they can wipe their ass with  because they couldn't make up their minds what they wanted to be when they grow up. Mr. Parker, you are one of these types of people.  You are being ignorant.  Nothing was metioned about a PTA, that is not a school board!. Anytime you want to debate the field of Education with me feel free to but I do guarantee, you will lose.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One, you have to see what stipulations that the school board has, go into what the requirments are. Does it say that she has to live in Buffalo, NY, or that county? You never mentioned that.Do, I agree with it, no I do not. But, you make an assumption of what a person's creditials are to be on the school board, but then ask what they are...meaning you don't know. If you want to argue about education, first you must grasp what the creditials are to be on the boards, to be a teacher, or a administrator. For instance, the majority of coutnies, and espeically in Maryland you must have a 4 yr degree, and have passed the Praxis Exam ( I have done that), and they also require you to have a Master's Degree after teaching for a certain amount (or it is recommended), and to be a Administrator, one must have a Master's...many have Phds. Many posisitions require some teaching experience....many Admins, try to get away from the teaching, because kids and the parents are bad (that is across the nation), so they don't want to deal with it. I come from a family of educators. I have a dual degree in History-Secondary Education...but, I do not teach...I also know teachers as well

You go on about assumptions, yet you don't know the whole story, neither do i, you only have what is written...as I said before in another thread that there are thre sides to each story, your's, mine, and the truth...One must understand the qualifications to be on the board, the board's rules and regs, why she moved to Maryland, or does she have a temporary home there, a winter home, or is she going thru a divorce? All angles must be analyzed...

Also, I mentioned the PTA because someone else mentioned it...actually I believe if more people in the inner cities were in the PTA that many things would change in those schools.   
   

[JOHN MATRIX]

maybe it was Fallsview's husband who was the shooter?

[Fallsview]

One, you have to see what stipulations that the school board has, go into what the requirments are. Does it say that she has to live in Buffalo, NY, or that county? You never mentioned that.Do, I agree with it, no I do not. But, you make an assumption of what a person's creditials are to be on the school board, but then ask what they are...meaning you don't know. If you want to argue about education, first you must grasp what the creditials are to be on the boards, to be a teacher, or a administrator. For instance, the majority of coutnies, and espeically in Maryland you must have a 4 yr degree, and have passed the Praxis Exam ( I have done that), and they also require you to have a Master's Degree after teaching for a certain amount (or it is recommended), and to be a Administrator, one must have a Master's...many have Phds. Many posisitions require some teaching experience....many Admins, try to get away from the teaching, because kids and the parents are bad (that is across the nation), so they don't want to deal with it. I come from a family of educators. I have a dual degree in History-Secondary Education...but, I do not teach...I also know teachers as well

You go on about assumptions, yet you don't know the whole story, neither do i, you only have what is written...as I said before in another thread that there are thre sides to each story, your's, mine, and the truth...One must understand the qualifications to be on the board, the board's rules and regs, why she moved to Maryland, or does she have a temporary home there, a winter home, or is she going thru a divorce? All angles must be analyzed...

Also, I mentioned the PTA because someone else mentioned it...actually I believe if more people in the inner cities were in the PTA that many things would change in those schools.  
  

I am a big advocate of PTA's and Parrent partners.  When I worked for local schools I was a community leader for the kids in the inner city.  I could talk to parents where others couldn't because I was very well known within their neighborhood, so yes, I am a big believer about parents getting actively involved.  School boards are a thing of the past though, there is no need for each school district to have one.  There are no qualifications to be on school board, I've even seen janitors on some. Some school boards are elected by the Mayor, and what does that tell you? My problem and it should be every parents problem is that a janitor or a political hack  is not equipped to make descions of what goes on in the classroom.  With the woman in the above story one must ask these questions:  What were her motives for not giving up her seat when she no longer lived there?  If she truly cared,why wouldn't she give up her seat for someone who is actually living in the  communtiy and can be a voice for it?  Why wouldn't she tell the truth about living somewhere else forcing the local newpaper, with the help of the freedom of information act to see telephone records that finaly broke the story wide open and forced her to resign?  When you deal with education there needs to be transparency.  Why is it required to do background checks for teachers and other staff but not required for board members? Why is it not required for all schools across the nation to mandatory drug test all school workers?   Your missing the point, regardless of what is "required" it boils down to what is RIGHT!   I worked for the public school system for 12 years and currently work 3-5 days in Albany doing "things".  If you read my earlier posts it stated that its the Feds that send it down to the State then to the school.  No child left behind looks great, all 900 pages of it, but does it work?  Not really but that would take way too much time here.  Requirments are nice but what really matters is, does it work?  And the same goes for people who are on school boards.  When you have people who have no clue what is involved in education making decisions, how are they the "watch dog" for the taxpayers and children?  It makes no sense for you to play devils advocate for the woman in Buffalo.  Buffalo is a depressed city that has low voter turn out, thus making it difficult to fill a school board with people who are qualified or able to make competent choices. The school board for each district needs to go away and one board needs to be set up that is centralized for the county.  This way superintendents can't play tricks and do what ever they want. By doing this, it keeps that one district from being "closed off"  where all the books are wide open. Take for example the Niagara Falls school district.  We blew that school district wide open for school board members giving kickbacks to there friends and taking elaborate trips.  The sad thing is, it wasn't a crime for not taking bids and those school board officials are still in place, still milking every freebie and penny they can get of the taxpayers money. Keep your Parent partner groups and build on that because those are the types of groups that speak for children of every race and economic class-their voices can be heard where they weren't with the business person wearing the $1000 dollar suit.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[Parker]

I am a big advocate of PTA's and Parrent partners.  When I worked for local schools I was a community leader for the kids in the inner city.  I could talk to parents where others couldn't because I was very well known within their neighborhood, so yes, I am a big believer about parents getting actively involved.  School boards are a thing of the past though, there is no need for each school district to have one.  There are no qualifications to be on school board, I've even seen janitors on some. Some school boards are elected by the Mayor, and what does that tell you? My problem and it should be every parents problem is that a janitor or a political hack  is not equipped to make descions of what goes on in the classroom.  With the woman in the above story one must ask these questions:  What were her motives for not giving up her seat when she no longer lived there?  If she truly cared,why wouldn't she give up her seat for someone who is actually living in the  communtiy and can be a voice for it?  Why wouldn't she tell the truth about living somewhere else forcing the local newpaper, with the help of the freedom of information act to see telephone records that finaly broke the story wide open and forced her to resign?  When you deal with education there needs to be transparency.  Why is it required to do background checks for teachers and other staff but not required for board members? Why is it not required for all schools across the nation to manatory drug test all school workers?   Your missing the point, regardless of what is "required" it boils down to what is RIGHT!   I worked for the public school system for 12 years and currently work 3-5 days in Albany doing "things".  If you read my earlier posts it stated that its the Feds that send it down to the State then to the school.  No child left behind looks great, all 900 pages of it, but does it work?  Not really but that would take way too much time here.  Requirments are nice but what really matters is, does it work?  And the same goes for people who are on school boards.  When you have people who have no clue what is involved in education making decisions, how are they the "watch dog" for the taxpayers and children?  It makes no sense for you to play devils advocate for the woman in Buffalo.  Buffalo is a depressed city that has low voter turn out, thus making it difficult to fill a school board with people who are qualified or able to make competent choices. The school board for each district needs to go away and one board needs to be set up that is centralized for the county.  This way superintendents can't play tricks and do what ever they want. By doing this, it keeps that one district from being "closed off"  where all the books are wide open. Take for example the Niagara Falls school district.  We blew that school district wide open for school board members giving kickbacks to there friends and taking elaborate trips.  The sad thing is, it wasn't a crime for not taking bids and those school board officials are still in place, still milking every freebie and penny they can get of the taxpayers money. Keep your Parent partner groups and build on that because those are the types of groups that speak for children of every race and economic class-their voices can be heard where they weren't with the business person wearing the $1000 dollar suit.  

STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

i understand i had a long post..but please use paragraphs...in short, I do agree with you, but each state, county have diff standards---hence a janitor being on a school board...

I would answer the rest, but I cannot right now...

[Fallsview]

i understand i had a long post..but please use paragraphs...in short, I do agree with you, but each state, county have diff standards---hence a janitor being on a school board...

I would answer the rest, but I cannot right now...

Ok,  I tried to make this a clear and concise as I could for you to understand.  Lets go off topic and talk about Rosa Parks.  It was a "REQUIREMENT" for all blacks to sit at the back of the bus, correct?  BUT because she challenged that law, requirement, etc., attention was brought to it and that racist law was later questioned and done away with.  If you were around back in those days would you say, there are two sides to that story?   So, because school districts are like there own little private government. You get very vague often sometimes unclear requirements of what should go on in that body.  They set this up so there is "wiggle room" and sometimes that wiggle room is put in place for the benefit of the school district NOT the children or taxpayer shelling out the money.  I have dealt with people like you (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way) who lack rigidness to get behind something and follow through.  They have a hard time making decisions because they lack the fortitude to "challenge the status que". This type of person can be very dangerous and often hard to work with because you never get a glympse of what they really stand for and what side of the issues they are really behind.  If you have family in education, please by all means ask them to share there experiences with teaching children and what mandates are given by the state.  If they give you a real truthful answer, they will tell you how out of touch these people are and what goes on in the classroom. You have politicians making the educational laws based on how "hot" the issue is and how much money is being generated by it-period.  The same goes for school boards.  They get in there little secret society where one hand washes the other and nepotism reigns supreme. Now, there are some good school boards but that is the minority not the majority.

Getting back to this Evans lady.  So you believe she was fully capable of performing her school board duties THREE states away?  So you believe there are two sides to this story? Lets face it, this is wrong on so many levels.  She moved to Maryland in July and only returned to Buffalo three different times.  When asked questions about her situation, she dodged all of them and didn't even have the decency to face the board with her resignation, she had someone else read it.   Even though Evans does have an impeccable resume this only proves my point that much of being on a Board of Education is a resume booster.  Did Miss Evans have the children in mind when she did all this?  One can only assume she held on to the position in Buffalo just in case the new one in Maryland didn't work out. How long was she going to keep this charade up for?  If Miss Evans was a decent person she would have helped find a suitable replacement for her job that spoke for her side of the community.  She let the children down because not only did this issue leave her communty without a voice, it distracted the board from doing its other duties by causing a media circus in the board room. Shameful!

So I don't write in paragraphs and you use improper slang english-we're even...didn't know I was being graded on GetBig.  It is very late and I am writing fast. Forgive me and remember you started with the Ad Hominem, I didn't.  
  

[billbigsby]

School boards are archaic and outdated.  There is no reason to still have a school board, they are filled with people who have an agenda and have no idea what is best for children.  Most people who join school boards have ulterior motives, either they want to pad there resume or they want to get their relatives jobs within the school district.  They also reap the benefits of going on vacations to "do research" on board topics.  For example, taking a trip to Arizona to look at playgrounds for one whole week while eating at lavish resturants and pileing up a bill for taxpayers to foot.  Just like this video school boards are filled with egotistical, arrogant, narcissists that put themselves higher then everyone else including the children they believe they are helping.  YOU THINK LEE PRIEST IS DELUSIONAL? Go to any school board meeting and you'll find out the meaning of that word.  First off, school districts don't care about children, they care about money (grants) and numbers.  Too bad the taxpayers are so blind and complacent, they are like the contented cows in the field.  Learning for all, whatever it takes?  Yeah right, you mean, Fudge the numbers, and pass everyone, especially ghetto boys that can't read or write but can play basketball for Syracuse because it looks good the school.  And while we're at it, lets use our school attorney to defend his drug dealings because the taxpayers don't know any better.  Yeah, School boards, lets not shoot them up.

Fucking brilliant and well put!