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Title: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 12:51:53 AM
  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 on why the creation of machines that are intelligent and sentient is an impossible dream and that people like Kurzweil are crazy. This is what the alien said during a channeling session when asked this question:

  "A goal of research scientists is to create robots so effective at running matters that all of mankind in essence becomes akin to the upper class - waited on hand and foot. To be effective in these roles, robots would have to repair and reproduce themselves, or each other, i.e. propagate; be able to adapt to changing circumstances, i.e. learn; and, since mankind can't be bothered, make logical determinations, i.e. think. Standing between the robot and sentient life forms, then, lies only emotion - hopes, caring, desire, rage - the motivators. In pursuit of this dream servant, scientists are casting a jealous eye on biological elements, which can propagate, learn, and think.

But biological elements invariably carry the capacity for emotions. Even the amoeba reacts to defend itself, to escape, and moves toward that which it desires. Where is the line to be drawn? Do we, the ones you call Greys, not use a massive computer for data storage and communication between alien groups in the Service-to-Other orientation, and does this computer not use biological components? We equate this to your use of wood and leather, as the biological elements we use are not alive. They cannot propagate, nor do they move to defend themselves or move toward that which they desire. They do not have desire. They are dead. These are the ethical guidelines we use in creating robots, but these are not simply guidelines we have determined among ourselves. The Council of Worlds, which oversees all situations where one intelligent life form can enslave another, forbids the use of living biological material as components of thinking machines.

The robot that propagates, learns, thinks, and as all life has emotion is alive, yet enslaved, as controls would surely be put into place to prevent the servant class from arising. Thus, media scenarios such as The Stepford Wives, or The Terminator, or Star Trek's Data would not be allowed to develop, not even if scientists on your world managed to develop them, which is far from likely. That those in [young worlds], who are emerging souls in the process of determining a spiritual orientation, would attempt to do so is one of the reasons for limiting the capabilities on your world. Mankind, in short, is too dumb to create a handy-dandy version of intelligent, sentient life. One, per their desires, which would never break down or talk back, would always look good, be compliant in bed, foresee one's needs, repair the car, be infinitely loyal, smart as a whip but never look down on the master, and never suffer from neglect. The child's dream."
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DISCLAIMER:I don't believe in aliens. I found this response on the web which is supposed to be from a grey alien and I found it interesting and decided to post it for entertainment reasons only.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 04:51:15 AM
  An alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains how it is possible to travel faster than the speed of light without breaking the laws of physics in a way that the limited intelligence of Humans can understand. This was revealed during a channeling session:

  "Most certainly we have interstellar ships, else how would we, as organic beings, arrive? The means of travel is not what humans assume, propulsion. Humans use propulsion, as in sailing vessels propelled by the wind in the sails, or as in planes propelled by air sliced and pressed backwards over specially shaped and rapidly rotating propellers and then over specially shaped wings designed to give the plane lift, or as in jet planes propelled skyward by the continuous explosion occurring in the jet engines, or most recently by the virtual firecrackers that propel the astronauts into space, holding their breath all the way, brave souls that they are. As humans can only move by a snails pace unless they are propelled, they assume that interstellar travel is by propulsion. It is not, it is by attraction, and a quick kiss it is.

We have explained how we move from one density to another, by making a reservation in the density we wish to move to, and then simply making the move. Likewise, when making long distance travel, we make a similar reservation, and then simply move. How does this work, in a manner that the limited intelligence of humankind can grasp? We have spoken of the mutual attraction and repulsion of matter, which is, of course, what causes the planets and moons to go into orbit around each other and their suns. Normally this goes into balance, not by accident but by a series of maneuvers until the attraction and repulsion are equally strong, one not affecting the regularity of motion more than the other. Balance is assumed when the motion takes on a regularity. Imagine what would happen if the repulsion were eliminated, in a given interchange, and the attraction had no counterbalance? How fast is fast?

Should we be asked to explain, in formulas that humans could potentially understand, how repulsion could be eliminated so that attraction is the only force in effect - we cannot. This is not to evade scrutiny, but to prevent humans from getting about in the Universe in their present ethically and intellectually immature state. In 4th Density there are rules in force that allow you to have this knowledge, and use it, while abiding by the rules. In 3rd Density you are allowed to mess around without rules, guided only by your free will. This is why entities of higher densities cannot interfere with you, unless you give The Call. Your world is essentially a play pen. Children are not allowed into the computer room, nor into the Air Traffic Control tower. We trust you will understand, though we expect you will be resentful."


DISCLAIMER: I do not believe in aliens. I found this on the web which is apparently the response of a Grey alien when asked how they can travel faster than the speed of light by travelling thousands of light-years almost in an instant. I found the reply interesting and decided to post it here.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: Playboy on January 28, 2011, 04:55:25 AM
Another dumb post  ::)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 04:59:12 AM
Another dumb post 

  That's not my post, dumbass. Didn't you read the disclaimer? And I found this hardly dumb. The guy who wrote this is clearly pretty creative.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 28, 2011, 12:44:52 PM
ha, that was an awesome read. propulsion as a means of travel as humans use it is an extremely primitive and inefficient method. the only means of real space travel and the speed/maneuverability of a 'ufo' can only be achieved by a completely different approach, one that humans have only begun to work on
Title: Grey Alien poops on FBB........
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 28, 2011, 12:58:19 PM
not this time........
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
  I found this answer deeply intelligent and very unusual. The guy who wrote this should get hired to write sci-fi scripts.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: spinnis on January 28, 2011, 01:25:37 PM
edit not about aliens*
Title: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 03:05:17 PM
  During a channeling session, the alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 was asked a diet question. This is what the woman asked it:

  How are we who are overweight do decide between the many diets avaialble for causing weight loss? There is the Atkins diet, the Beverly Hills diet, the Palm Beach Diet, the grapefruit diet, the low glycemic index diet, etc?"The alien's reply:

"Stop eating. It's very simple."

  To which the woman asked: Yes, but what diet is the best? Is more protein or carbs better? What about cutting out all fats? Cutting out the carbs? Increasing the protein?

"They will all work equally as well if you eat very little of the foods they suggest; they will all equally fail if you eat a lot of the foods they suggest. It is very simple to understand."

  LOLOLOL, it is amazing the capacity that this "alien" has of getting subjects of great complexity and reducing it to such simplicity and to see the bottom line of thousands of complex variables. The alien has just solved the problem of weight loss. He reduced it to a simplicity that even a child can understand, but it takes an IQ of almost 400 to see with such clarity.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: Master Blaster on January 28, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
your mom suckedmymuscle
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Parker on January 28, 2011, 03:26:43 PM
look what happens when man has everything haned to them--they get fat. The Remote control was one of the worst things ever invented....
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: wes on January 28, 2011, 03:33:14 PM
That alien is another Fat Panda gimmick!  :)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: Jaime on January 28, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
Yes it takes an IQ of 400 to come to such conclusions and word them thus.

Unfortunately ObesePanda and Suckmyfeeblemanmuscle only have 350 IQ's so they can't be simplistic enough for all the morons to understand.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 04:02:05 PM
Yes it takes an IQ of 400 to come to such conclusions and word them thus.

Unfortunately ObesePanda and Suckmyfeeblemanmuscle only have 350 IQ's so they can't be simplistic enough for all the morons to understand.

  LOL!

  Yeah, the guy who wrote this shit thought he was being really clever. ;D Lmao.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
  You shall ask, and it shall answer with it's mega-brain and millions of years of superior evolution over us. But beware! If you ask the wrong questions or phrase it in a manner that upsets it, you are getting abducted and receiving an alien probe up your fudge hole.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 28, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
He/it used the word dead. Does energy die?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 28, 2011, 06:13:59 PM
Always thought The True Adonis was an Alien. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 28, 2011, 11:59:36 PM
He/it used the word dead. Does energy die?

  You are almost getting to the point where you will receive an alien proby up your fudge button.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 29, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
....they are hard up.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: bodyofsteel on January 29, 2011, 12:01:59 AM
  You are almost getting to the point where you will receive an alien proby up your fudge button.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
You're not an alien and you don't know where he lives, so I doubt that will be happening anytime soon! ;D
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: bodyofsteel on January 29, 2011, 12:03:04 AM
If I had a dream that several large, burly musclebear aliens gave me a series of "anal probes", would that make me gay? :o
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 12:04:19 AM
ha, that was an awesome read. propulsion as a means of travel as humans use it is an extremely primitive and inefficient method. the only means of real space travel and the speed/maneuverability of a 'ufo' can only be achieved by a completely different approach, one that humans have only begun to work on

  I agree. The guy writing this shit should get a job in the sci-fi network as a writer. Not only are his replies very deeply logical, but he is very creative in the way he reduces complex issues into simplicity and makes up all kinds of facts about the Greys.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 12:05:26 AM
You're not an alien and you don't know where he lives, so I doubt that will be happening anytime soon! ;D

  I just recived a telepathic message that he will be using the ANALhilator on your ass when he probes you. ;D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: bodyofsteel on January 29, 2011, 12:06:24 AM
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rjo0986l.jpg)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 12:07:37 AM
Always thought The True Adonis was an Alien. Pretty cool.

  In apperance? Definitely. In capabilities? No. More like a defective Earthling.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 12:16:07 AM
If I had a dream that several large, burly musclebear aliens gave me a series of "anal probes", would that make me gay? :o

  It's only gay if you want it to be. Besides, the Greys are asexual clones, so there are no musclebear Greys.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: kiwiol on January 29, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
If I had a dream that several large, burly musclebear aliens gave me a series of "anal probes", would that make me gay? :o

Only if you woke up with a sigh and saw that you'd shot a load
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 29, 2011, 01:33:30 AM
despite whatever SUCK is one of the most intelligent posters on this site and i enjoy his posts (no homo)
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: kiwiol on January 29, 2011, 01:36:58 AM
despite whatever SUCK is one of the most intelligent posters on this site and i enjoy his posts (no homo)

Ditto. SMM's awesome ;D 8)
Title: Re: Grey Alien wants to suck your muscle........
Post by: DK II on January 29, 2011, 01:38:27 AM
"one of the most intelligent on this site"??

Don't insult the great SMM, he is the most intelligent person in the world.

Stephen Hawkings is like Homer Simpson compared to SMM.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: magicuser on January 29, 2011, 02:06:38 AM
does the alien know howto mind control women?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: magicuser on January 29, 2011, 02:11:37 AM
aliens would probably kill us all if they arrived
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: magicuser on January 29, 2011, 02:22:42 AM
  You are almost getting to the point where you will receive an alien proby up your fudge button.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


LOL fudge button
Title: Grey Alien on making a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 29, 2011, 03:14:27 AM
this is an exerpt from online so dont judge me !!!!

"as we observe from above a popular topic among out ranks is how poorly the humans make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich;
the ideal method cannot be translated into terms understandable by the Level 6 earth population; essentially it involves obtaining a container of organic south african peanuts otherwise it is a cheap brand usually containing rapeseed...also use jar of generic strawberry jam or else it will give you the Shits; spread each between a piece of organic hemp bread..thats pretty much all there is to it. more will be revealed once you manage to stop cleaning your shit smeared asses with handfuls of wadded paper"
Title: Re: Grey Alien on making a Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich
Post by: magicuser on January 29, 2011, 10:35:56 AM
LOLz

(http://jftarno.free.fr/images-alien/Alien05-450.jpg)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 01:02:49 PM
aliens would probably kill us all if they arrived

  You are assuming they evolved from hierarchical social animals that care about domination. What if they evolved from equivalent of peaceful herbivores who don't care about conquering territory? What if they evolved from asexual amoeba-like species and don't try to submit people to earn mating rights?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 01:03:37 PM

LOL fudge button

  Lol to the alien probing your fudge button with his ANALhilator probe! ;D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Dieting.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 01:04:37 PM
does the alien know howto mind control women?

  No, because women don't have minds. ;D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 29, 2011, 01:07:58 PM
  You are almost getting to the point where you will receive an alien proby up your fudge button.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

How much will it cost me. I'm on a fixed budget.
Title: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 01:10:07 PM
  Do aliens believe in God? Does God exist? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 was asked this question during a channeling session and this was what it had to say:

  "Humans quite naturally tend to think of their relationship to a god in child-to-parent terms, an outgrowth not only from their impressionable early years but also from their general sense of hopelessness in being able to control their environment. They remain, to a certain extent, a child always, the child within masked by the face of adulthood but inwardly looking to a parent to rescue them or guide them. The concept of a god as something larger and more powerful than the self, who makes things happen, begins in the helpless babe who finds himself cared for whether he asks for it or not, but mostly when he fusses. The concept of prayer is born - I ask and most of the time I receive. Molding the infant's behavior to meet the expectations of the family or social group begins early, with a sharp verbal or physical reprimand when the babe exhibits the wrong behavior. The concept of a punishing god is born.

A careful analysis of the organized religions in human society reveals the child's view toward a parent in almost every aspect. Parents expect the child to contribute to the upkeep around the home by doing chores or handing over their earnings to the parents, and organized religions expect no less from their members. Unquestioning obedience is another parental expectation, most often necessary as during a crisis there is no time to explain to the child why they must follow orders without hesitation. A child putting himself or others in danger must first follow orders and can only ask for an explanation later, if at all. Organized religions take great advantage of this early training, parsing out rules and commandments supposedly coming from a god who cannot be questioned. Rewards for good behavior in most human societies are simply the absence of punishment or privation - do well and you can continue to sleep under the parental roof and sit at the dinner table. Likewise, organized religions phrase the eventual rewards as a right to belong as well as avoidance of various punishments.

Conscious, intelligent life throughout the Universe develops the god concept in very similar ways. Any force outside of the control of the self, able to give life by providing sustenance or inclusion in the group or take away life through privation or expulsion or punishment is seen as a god. In human societies attempts to bribe or placate the god naturally follow along the lines of what worked with the parents. If parental rage dissipates when gifts are offered then the god is likewise offered gifts. If the parents are looking to punish a wrong-doer and the children assign one of their number to take this punishment as a scapegoat then likewise the god may be offered sacrificial scapegoats. Kings, wealthy patrons, and visitors from outer space all can fit into the god mold by virtue of their power to affect the lives of the humans in awe of them. For a god concept to emerge, there must also be a sense of helplessness on the part of the supplicant, a sense that they are powerless to affect the outcome except by offering bribes or scapegoats
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SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Jaime on January 29, 2011, 01:16:20 PM
I find this grey alien dude to be quite correct in the majority of his assertions.
Title: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 01:44:08 PM
  Ok, this is the last one. No more answers from the grey!

The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 answers the question during a channeling session of why and how the Universe began. Is it boundless? Is it eternal? What was there before the Big Bang when even time didn't exist? Here is it's reply:

  "Because Humans had a beggining, and were in part manufactured, they assume the Universe also had a beggining and that it was manufactured. And because every effect has a cause, they assume that something or someone must have manufactured it. But reality contains everything and is contained by nothing. Therefore, the very process that created the Universe, if there ever was one, is contained in reality itself. This means that reality has always existed in some way. Always pressuposes the existence of time, and time is a function of matter, where the interactions between it's properties must follow the pattern of effects following causes, and this oderly perception of physical interactions is what time is. But time has always existed as a potential. Imagine there is no matter, hence no time, but the set of potentials that gave birth to the Universe represent something, namely, conceptual, intelligent determinations. These conceptual determinations could be seen as proto-causes, although not true causes, and since the effects that follow causes are perceived as the passage of time, and since the first cause could be seen as an effect of the conceptual determination that made them come into being, then time existed as a potential before the physical Universe - not exatly the same as reality itself - came into being. What Humans call the Big Bang was not the beggining of the Universe, but merely the expansion of part of the Universe according to a certain set of physical constants. We have already explained how physical laws work with the concept of balance. How for the force of attraction there is the force of repulsion, and so forth. The Big Bang was nothing more than the repulsion force in overload, that acted to counter the excess of attraction that crowded enormous amounts of matter into a tiny space, and it affected only a small part of the Universe as a whole. The crunch rearranges matter according to new physical laws that will act when matter is expanded, and these laws are tweeked in every crunch as matter tries to find a perfect balance where crunches will no longer be necessary. This explanation is limited and imprecise, but it is the best that Humans could understand with their intelligence and scientific knowledge.

  The vast Universe, which so intrigues man, has mysteries seemingly out of the reach of man. How big is it? Does it have boundaries? Does it go forever, or is it circular? Is it all an illusion? Is it homogeneous throughout? So many questions. Does the Universe have physical boundaries? We do not know, nor are we allowed to know in the density we are in, 4th Density. To us, with our instruments and in our travels, it appears to be boundless. We travel only so much, using home as a base, and limit our travels not because of distance but due to what is known about certain parts of the Universe, which would be poisonous to us. We too use probes, set to take their measures and return. This is the manner by which your Solar System was located, not by us, but by others. If the probe returns with data that indicates an environment that would be poisonous or quickly fatal, we do not, understandably, explore that part of the Universe. Travel by pure thought, which more advanced civilization in 5th density use, does not have these setbacks.

Different sections of the Universe have different compositions. By this we mean the elements are found in different proportions and the resultant chemical reactions that ensue therefore have different characteristics. Some worlds have silicon based life. Some suns emit radiation that is poisonous to us and would be to you also. Those environments contain severe dangers, as silicon based microbes are ones your immune system could not begin to muster a defense against. An analogy we could use is the soil across a terrain. One place is acidic and is covered with moss, another has soil that compacts into rock-like hardness, discouraging probing roots. The variables are many, and any horticulturist will tell you that a wildflower taken from one location could not be expected to grow in another. Just so is the Universe, we have discovered, and the mix of elements that compose the soil in this section of the Universe is our and your niche. Incarnated, we are not allowed, not able, to explore outside this niche.

Beyond some simple statements, we are not at liberty to explain the Universe to humans, as we are restrained by the Rule of Non-Interference and also by our ignorance. For you, it seems that the Universe is limitless, and boundless, and is not an illusion. So be it, as for you that is a reality and in particular the reality which you must live in. It is also the reality which we, the ones you call Greys, must live in, and in truth we do not know that much more about the functioning of the Universe than you do. The Universe holds secrets that we are not allowed to know at this time, at our stage of evolution These questions must go unanswered, for the time being".


SUCKMYMUSCLE

Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 02:07:23 PM
I find this grey alien dude to be quite correct in the majority of his assertions.

  It is not a dude. They are asexual, hence the word dude doesen't apply to them. But they do like probing Human anuses. If you upset them, you might find yourself getting quite intimate with the "dude". ;D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: mitchyboy on January 29, 2011, 02:47:20 PM
Interesting and I hate to admit, but I agree wholeheartdly. I like the concept of one looking in rather than one experiencing life exactly as we do. Go greys
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 29, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
Aren't they supposed to take over eventually? lol  :o

How does God fit in to play in this scenario?

Say one day E T's come to earth, take over man kind, and run our daily life. If there good than we have nothing to worry about. But what if they don't like us? Were beyond screwed!

So God somehow allows E T's to do whatever they want, cause they have the greater power? I thought God loved us? and wouldn't let something like this happen?

I think there is a "God" but not the way it was explained as a kid. Yeah there's a "God" cause this universe came from something, but force and power rule the universe. If E T's wanted to hurt us, they could do so very easily.

This kinda thinking makes me wanna throw religion out the window.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Fallsview on January 29, 2011, 03:01:34 PM
He came around last year and I didn't go and see him.  I loved the Vertical Horizon cover of Grey Sky Morning he did.  I also like "Today".  His wife commited suicide.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: big L dawg on January 29, 2011, 03:04:29 PM
sweet
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: marty31672 on January 29, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
i really like this kinda stuff to
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
thats the same bag of horseshit modern atheist scientist propagate
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 06:47:41 PM
Yeah there's a "God" cause this universe came from something, but force and power rule the universe. If E T's wanted to hurt us, they could do so very easily.

  I mean no offense, but this is the only worthy point you made and it has already been addressed by the alien. According to the alien, Humans believe that the Universe had a beggining because we observe that for every effect there is a cause and so on. But reality contains everything including time itself and any process that could explain the beggining of the Universe would be contained in the Universe itself. The conclusion is that the Universe has always existed. The Big Bang is just a rearrangement of physical constants pursuing balance. Time also pressuposes the existence of matter, but matter came into being from conceptual determinations that don't really require time to be. Concepts exist independent of matter and time, since they are that from which matter and thus time arrise. This is a very incomplete explanation but it is the best that we can grasp being just Humans.

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This kinda thinking makes me wanna throw religion out the window.

  Religion is about the weakness of most people and the desire for control of a few strong people. Most people cannot deal with the idea of death, so they seek a a way to avoid it, and since avoiding death is beyong our science for the time being, people look at a daddy(God) that will protect them from the big bad evil(death) they cannot avoid. People with strong personalities manipulate this fear of death to enjoy good lives on Earth. The clergy lived lives of luxuy during the Middle Ages whilst the peasants who attended church died. Once we eliminate death or learn to live without the need for physical bodies, God will no longer be such an emotional necessity for people. Currently, only a few people are strong enough to accept death as the end of all and live life like there is no tomorrow - because there reeally isn't.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
thats the same bag of horseshit modern atheist scientist propagate

  You, of all people, would dare to criticize this. And yet you cannot formulate any arguments against anything the alien wrote.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 06:51:56 PM
He/it used the word dead. Does energy die?

  What has this got to do with anything? When you die, the energy that is produced by the body as a result of metabolic funtion dissipates. Enery doesen't die, but we certainly do.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
  You, of all people, would dare to criticize this. And yet you cannot formulate any arguments against anything the alien wrote.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


read this

matter came into being from conceptual determinations that don't really require time to be. Concepts exist independent of matter and time, since they are that from which matter and thus time arrise.


where do concepts come from?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 06:54:58 PM
 ::) and where do concepts come from?  ;)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 07:00:38 PM
and where do concepts come from?  ;)

  At the Human level, from chemical reactions that generate patterns of electrical firing between neurons. At the axiomatic level, no one knows but it could just be the fundamental property of reality.

  Ultimately, you are thinking in terms of cause and effect. The alien has already explained the folly of this, as cause and effect is a function of matter at the atomistic level and not of matter at more fundamental levels nor when you try to explain matter itself. Just because no one knows doesen't give you the freedom to make up magical explanations for it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
where do concepts come from?

  Your question is both nonsensical and irrelevant to this discussion. Just because no one knows what concepts are at the axiomatic level or their ultimate etiology, doesen't mean that your magical explanation is right.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 07:04:28 PM
LOL  ::)

thoughts are represented by and affected by neural activity, but they are not completely reducible to it. concepts are the result of thought, before anything can exist it must be thought of first. hence, GOD. no need for a leap of faith, its right in front of your eyes.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 07:07:11 PM
only a living, thinking thing can produce a concept.  :)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: che on January 29, 2011, 07:08:53 PM
thats the same bag of horseshit modern atheist scientist propagate


''Maybe God didnt always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence''

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   TBombz
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 07:13:04 PM

''Maybe God didnt always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence''

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   TBombz

logically speaking, that is the best explanation. you can infer to most plausible explanation in the absence of certain truth. creation follows concepts follows thought follows being follows nonbeing.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 07:14:04 PM
only a living, thinking thing can produce a concept.  :)

  This is a blanket statement. So according to you, there was a living, thinking thing before there was the Universe since the process that created the Universe existed as concept before it came into being physically(you seem to be agreeing with me in this point, so I am asssuming that this is what you are implying)?

  And a concept exists independent from any living thing. A concept is a logical determination, like the variables in an equation. Mathematics does not require any living things to conceive it for it to exist. Two atoms of Hydrogen and one of Oxygem would still result in water if there were no one to conceive of this. The laws of physics work likewise, without anything to conceive of it.

  The problem that I have with you is that you make a ton of blanket statements that are vey poorly worded and then expect me to interpret what the hell you are talking about. You use the same words with different meaning and formulate your sentences in such a poor manner that most of the time I can't really interpret what you are trying to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: che on January 29, 2011, 07:16:23 PM
logically speaking, that is the best explanation. you can infer to most plausible explanation in the absence of certain truth. creation follows concepts follows thought follows being follows nonbeing.

I agree ,   logically speaking  that is the best explanation.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
 This is a blanket statement. So according to you, there was a living, thinking thing before there was the Universe since the process that created the Universe existed as concept before it came into being physically(you seem to be agreeing with me in this point, so I am asssuming that this is what you are implying)?

  And a concept exists independent from any living thing. A concept is a logical determination, like the variables in an equation. Mathematics does not require any living things to conceive it for it to exist. Two atoms of Hydrogen and one of Oxygem would still result in water if there were no one to conceive of this. The laws of physics work likewise, without anything to conceive of it.

  The problem that I have with you is that you make a ton of blanket statements that are vey poorly worded and then expect me to interpret what the hell you are talking about. You use the same words with different meaning and formulate your sentences in such a poor manner that most of the time I can't really interpret what you are trying to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
no no no!!!! concepts do not exist independant of a thinking being,   mass/energy in all of its forms(the phsyical representation of concepts) exists independantely of a direct, observable cause.  the physical represenation of a concept is something altogether different from the concept itself. concepts only reside in the mind of a thinking being. modern philosophy is based upon this idea. everything is subjective ;)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
LOL

  LOL, my ass. You are talking out of your ass as if you've struck gold.

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thoughts are represented by and affected by neural activity, but they are not completely reducible to it.

  I never said they are, idiot. I said, "at the Human level". I then went on to say that at the axiomatic level no one knows the etiology of concepts.
 
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concepts are the result of thought,

  No, they aren't. No one needs to conceive that 2 + 2 = 4 for it to be. It just is.

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before anything can exist it must be thought of first. hence, GOD. no need for a leap of faith, its right in front of your eyes.

  Another blanket statement. So God is a living, breathing entity? After all, you did say that only living, breathing things can think. So if an intelligence that you could call God is the ultimate explanation for everything, then what explains God? After all, God is also a concept(a supreme intelligence), so what "thought" the concept of God to make it come into being? Saying that God thought itself into being is just as bad as saying that a God created everything. It doesen't explain anything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
 LOL, my ass. You are talking out of your ass as if you've struck gold.

  I never said they are, idiot. I said, "at the Human level". I then went on to say that at the axiomatic level no one knows the etiology of concepts.
  
  No, they aren't. No one needs to conceive that 2 + 2 = 4 for it to be. It just is.


SUCKMYMUSCLE

2+2=4 is a concept, and it does not exist in nature, anywhere, except for in the mind of a thinking being. 2 rocks next to two rocks makes 4 rocks. but only if there is someone there to observe the four rocks. otherwise, there is only a bunch of nonsensical matter, and nothing seperates the "4 rocks" from any of the other mass/energy within the infinite space aroudn it.


 
Another blanket statement. So God is a living, breathing entity? After all, you did say that only living, breathing things can think. So if an intelligence that you could call God is the ultimate explanation for everything, then what explains God? After all, God is also a concept(a supreme intelligence), so what "thought" the concept of God to make it come into being? Saying that God thought itself into being is just as bad as saying that a God created everything. It doesen't explain anything.



it explains everything (once you understand GOD to be.. well, GOD.  ;)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 29, 2011, 07:43:11 PM
aliens would probably kill us all if they arrived

According to Dr.Michio Kaku , a brilliant theoretical physicist they would most likely not pay attention to us, although we would end up getting wiped out, kind of in the same way native indians got wiped out when settlers came to America/N.America, we would basically get 'paved over' as Dr.Kaku puts it.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
  I am not getting into a protracted debate with you because frankly all your points are blanket statements with no evidence and you play with semantics to try to prove your points. This is my last reply to you.

  
no no no!!!!

  Yes, yes, yes.

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concepts do not exist independant of a thinking being,

  This is an unsubstantiated statement(blanket statement). Saying that "God" thought the Universe into being doesen't solve anything! It doesen't explain God! It is a circular argument. We know that concepts can exist without any minds that we know of - we don't know if God exists, so it doesen't count. Gravity was working before Newton defined it as a law. The only minds we know of, our owns, are not required for concepts to exist.

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  mass/energy in all of its forms(the phsyical representation of concepts) exists independantely of a direct, observable cause.

  What do you mean by this? You mean matter in it's essence? Yes, but saying that God created it all is a terrible explanation because it doesen't explain God. So we are back at square one.

  But saying that matter in all of it's forms is not explainable is retarded. For instance, we know that atoms of Helium are formed when atoms of Hydrogen fuse. We know that molecules of water are formed when two atoms of Hydrogen combine with one of Oxygen. We know that matter burns to give out fumes and emit lights(photons). So the transformations of matter are very well understood in all of it's forms except what explains matter at the most axiomatic level.

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the physical representation of a concept is something altogether different from the concept itself.

  Welll...hmmmm...duh.

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concepts only reside in the mind of a thinking being.

  Blanket statement and mostly falsifiable. We know they can exist independently of our minds, the only ones we know to exist. The mind of God? Ok, what "thought" God into existing? Saying that God thought himself into existing doesen't explain anything. God himself is also a concept, so God gave also birth to his very own concept? See how this leaves us at square one.

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modern philosophy is based upon this idea. everything is subjective ;)

  You mean post-modernism? The impressions that Humans have on different topics is subjective due to different genetic programmings that result in brains with different levels of neurotransmitter and thus different patterns of electrochemical firings that result in different personalities that interpret facts differently, but reality is not. The Universe works with precise and unchangeable laws(objective).

  It's sad that philosophers have degenerated into playing with semantics and worrying so much about context rather than precision and objectivity. The father of modern logic, Aristotle, was a philosopher, and it is sad that philosophers have lost touch with the reality.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: che on January 29, 2011, 07:51:00 PM
I agree ,   logically speaking  that is the best explanation.

 ::)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Necrosis on January 29, 2011, 07:56:07 PM
2+2=4 is a concept, and it does not exist in nature, anywhere, except for in the mind of a thinking being. 2 rocks next to two rocks makes 4 rocks. but only if there is someone there to observe the four rocks. otherwise, there is only a bunch of nonsensical matter, and nothing seperates the "4 rocks" from any of the other mass/energy within the infinite space aroudn it.


 


it explains everything (once you understand GOD to be.. well, GOD.  ;)

can you remember which thread you and neoseminole were debating in, i want to read it. You are to far gone however,  the matter around the rocks is obviously arranged differently then the rocks or everything would be indistinguishabe. Perception doesnt alter reality, the double slit experiment has been ass fucked for to long. Seriously, my girlfriend is in the other room, i cant perceive her but im sure she still exists, the evidence for this is that nothing has ever ceased existing from not being perceived, perception does not matter.

God actually raises more questions then it answers. You are suggesting something outside the universe for an explanation of the universe, which by definition cannot exist. Also since no one can be outside the universe or have any
knowledge of thigs outside of space and time, anything you say about such matters is pure conjecture and wild assumptions that can be discarded.


If god exists he is either stupid or doesnt give a fuck, the universe is a shitty design with so many flaws and the human body even more so (fuck myopia is super prevalent, great design on the eye god)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: Flexb on January 29, 2011, 07:56:54 PM
retardedness  :D
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
2+2=4 is a concept, and it does not exist in nature, anywhere,

  Sure it does. Two atoms of Hydrogen and one of Oxygen = water. Physical reality knows that this precise combination(mathematical) of precise elements result in the same substance always.

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except for in the mind of a thinking being.

  What explains the thinking being? Since only a thinking being can conceive of a thought that results in something(anything) according to you, and since God himself is a concept, what explains God? He either thought himself into being, which doesen't explain anything, or some thinking being thought of him which is a circular argument as you would be stuck with a never-ending succession of thinking beings. See how retarded you sound?

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2 rocks next to two rocks makes 4 rocks. but only if there is someone there to observe the four rocks.

  No, it doesen't. Two atoms of Hydrogen and one of Oxygen don't need for anyone to be observing them combining for them to form water.

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otherwise, there is only a bunch of nonsensical matter,

  The laws of physics are hardly nonsensical...

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and nothing seperates the "4 rocks" from any of the other mass/energy within the infinite space aroudn it.


  What??? What is this supposed to mean? Speak English man...

 
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it explains everything (once you understand GOD to be.. well, GOD.  ;)

  This is an explanation satisfying for a four-year old or to you, like Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, but it not satisfying for me and to most scientists or the philosophers you bring up constantly(erroneously) to make your points. If you want, I can have my good friend, British philosopher, David Pearce, who teaches at Oxford, tell you how wrong you are in assuming that philosophers accept God as creating the Universe ex nihilo and coming into being ex nihilo.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 08:31:02 PM
  The only reasonable explanation for concepts being the ultimate axiomatic essence of existence is for we to assume that the non-existence of anything is a concept itself, hence, non-existence is impossible since it always exists as a concept. It is the ultimate concept in itself. This would be the zero onthology problem. It offers a somewhat satisfying explanation for reality, but it leaves the old philosophical question of why there is something rather than nothing unanswered since we can never know what "nothing" is in essence.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 08:58:37 PM
the only reason it isnt satisfactory to you is because you arent accepting the omnipotence of GOD. God necessarily exists, his essence is existence, and his existence demands his omnipotence.


heres the proof = free will
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Firemuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
the only reason it isnt satisfactory to you is because you arent accepting the omnipotence of GOD. God necessarily exists, his essence is existence, and his existence demands his omnipotence.


heres the proof = free will

 Hey man. What is this story all about with you and the deep anal massage?

 I heard something about this but I don't know the whole story. What is this all about?
 
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 29, 2011, 09:01:46 PM
This would be the zero onthology problem. It offers a somewhat satisfying explanation for reality, but it leaves the old philosophical question of why there is something rather than nothing unanswered since we can never know what "nothing" is in essence.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

What I know for sure is that if we weren't here, we wouldn't be talking about it. lol
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 29, 2011, 09:02:29 PM

 Hey man. What is this story all about with you and the deep anal massage?

 I heard something about this but I don't know the whole story. What is this all about?
 


lmao
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 29, 2011, 09:03:55 PM

 Hey man. What is this story all about with you and the deep anal massage?

 I heard something about this but I don't know the whole story. What is this all about?
 
there was a bicurious dude on the sex forum who wanted to know what getting fucked in the ass felt like, so being the helpful and encouraging person that I am I described the experience to him, including the phrase "its like a deep tissue massage, only its in your ass". which is half true. because its much better than any massage.  :)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Firemuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
there was a bicurious dude on the sex forum who wanted to know what getting fucked in the ass felt like, so being the helpful and encouraging person that I am I described the experience to him, including the phrase "its like a deep tissue massage, only its in your ass". which is half true. because its much better than any massage.  :)

 You like getting fucked in the ass huh? That's cool. What's the biggest cock you ever took in your ass? You ever taken a bareback load up your ass?
Title: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:09:20 PM
  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains during a channeling session why Capitalism is the predominant system in Human societies.

  "The secret of Capitalism's success relies on superior maximization of utility. Humans evolved from territorial apes where superior reproductive opportunity comes to those who conquer more territory than others. To the victors, the spoils, to the vanquished, becoming the spoils of the victors. Thus, the possibility of individual aggrandizement is the most powerful motivator of Human action and thus a system that rewards one with the biggest possibility of self-aggradizement works best. Also, resources are managed more effectively by one or a few people rather than many. When trying to coordinate action of large numbers of people, information is utilized less effectively due to problems of communication. Unlike us, the ones you call Greys, who are telepathic, Humans utilize language to convey information, and language is too imprecise and too little descriptive to convey information effectively. The larger the number of people involved in a task, the less likely the task is to be done effectively due to the many problems of communication that arrise. Thus capitalism results in superior maximization of utility by better motivating people to achieve and to use resources effectively, and by superior micro-management of resources by dividing the economy into millions of managers instead of a few. In a communist country, large bureacracies manage the economy poorly because they have no motivation for self-aggrandizement besides the rare promotion in the Party and because a few bureacrats cannot possibly organize the millions of variables involved in managing an economy effectively."

  Regarding capitalism, with its arguments that the whole benefits from the avarice and greed of the few. Proponents point to the United States or other western civilizations as proof of the theory. Where in truth there are the wealthy, as there always are in every civilization, nevertheless poverty still reigns for the masses. Is your United States any different, in truth? How many citizens are starving on the streets, in increasing numbers? How many tiny school children sit with hollow eyes because their bellies are cramping in an insistent demand for the breakfast they never seem to get? How many families try to make moldy, bug ridden quarters cheerful, with not much more than a plucked dandelion or two. Children playing in the mud because this is their only toy. This is Capitalism's outcome despite it's superior effectiveness at generating material good. In point of fact, these statistics would be a thousand times worse if Capitalism were allowed to run full course. It is held in check by your laws."


SUCKMYMUSCLE

  
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Flexb on January 29, 2011, 09:12:50 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Alienigena.jpg/220px-Alienigena.jpg)


 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: magicuser on January 29, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
capialism measn cheap low cost whoeres
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: wes mantooth on January 29, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
capialism measn cheap low cost whoeres

this post is only at 50%
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 29, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Cableguy on January 29, 2011, 09:37:10 PM
I find this grey alien dude entity to be quite correct in the majority of his assertions.

I agree...
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
the only reason it isnt satisfactory to you is because you arent accepting the omnipotence of GOD. God necessarily exists, his essence is existence, and his existence demands his omnipotence.


  The only thing you are good at is obfuscation through verbiage. Playing with words and making blanket statements is your modus operandi.

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heres the proof = free will

  How does this prove that God exist ??? Even if we have free will, which I am not sure we have, how is this evidence that God exists? There is no logical correlation between free will and the existence or not of a God. In fact, if there is a God there is less free will since an intelligent entity that created everything would create the Universe with it's own biased parameters.

  Our free will, if we have it(debeatable) could be the result of natural selection allowing us free reign to decide what to do when there are many choices because the DNA cannot possibly know what is best for it's own survival all the time given the chaotic medium where it has to propagate - our physical World.

  Volition doesen't exist for most species, and it is debateable whether there is any for Humans. A schizofrenic cannot stop hallucinating through free will, nor can a depressive simply become happy by deciding to see the positive side of things because he can't. Most pedophilles still molest children even when they know they are gona get caught and get beat to death in jail or fry in the electric chair.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:44:48 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.

  Maybe if they got to keep 100% of the product of their labor instead of 10% because the other 90% goes into the pockets of their bosses, they could afford to not have his kids with hollow eyes. Sure, there are people who are lazy and won't work. But there are millions of people who work very hard and only get to keep 1% of the fruits of their labor because the other 99% goes into the pockets of executives and shareholders. Case in point: the workers in China who work 18 hours a day, six days a weeek, to make U.S40.00 a month. In many cases, the work involves skills, like working at assembling internal combustion engines for cars, and they still make U.S40.00 a week. That's capitalism.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 09:50:36 PM
  There seems to be a contradiction in the alien's statements. He first praises Capitalism, then bemoans it. But there is no contradiction. The alien first explains why Capitalism works better at creating material gains, and then he criticizes this because this ability to create material gains ends benefitting few. He then points out that Capitalism is the "best" because the alternative doesen't work due to Human nature and poor management of resources by large organizations of people. This is true even in Capitalism. Microsoft grew the most when it was only Bill and a couple friends. Now that is a large bureacracy, it is far less creative than it was. The alien doesen't offer an alternative, because there might not be an alternative for Humans that would work. The desire for self-aggrandizement is innate to social apes, and micro-management is superior to macro-management.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2011, 09:52:48 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.
It's "woe is me", "Whoa", or as you wrote it "woah", denotes surprise...
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 10:04:03 PM
According to Dr.Michio Kaku , a brilliant theoretical physicist they would most likely not pay attention to us, although we would end up getting wiped out, kind of in the same way native indians got wiped out when settlers came to America/N.America, we would basically get 'paved over' as Dr.Kaku puts it.


  Actually, I disagree with Kaku. They would be fascinated by us like we are in observing gorillas in the wild.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 29, 2011, 10:17:22 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.

  Coach, you are a simple man with simple thoughts. You see everything in black and white. Your understanding of the World is very poor and very basic. You seem to think there is some innate justice in things and that if someone is getting screwed it is because they are bad. I am sorry to break this to you, but bad things happen to good people every day, and it isn't their fault.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Flexb on January 29, 2011, 10:30:50 PM
I'm pretty surprised some of you take this Grey Alien shit for real
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Firemuscle on January 29, 2011, 10:32:30 PM
I'm pretty surprised some of you take this Grey Alien shit for real

 He wrote this alien shit?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Parker on January 29, 2011, 10:32:39 PM
  Do aliens believe in God? Does God exist? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 was asked this question during a channeling session and this was what it had to say:

  "Humans quite naturally tend to think of their relationship to a god in child-to-parent terms, an outgrowth not only from their impressionable early years but also from their general sense of hopelessness in being able to control their environment. They remain, to a certain extent, a child always, the child within masked by the face of adulthood but inwardly looking to a parent to rescue them or guide them. The concept of a god as something larger and more powerful than the self, who makes things happen, begins in the helpless babe who finds himself cared for whether he asks for it or not, but mostly when he fusses. The concept of prayer is born - I ask and most of the time I receive. Molding the infant's behavior to meet the expectations of the family or social group begins early, with a sharp verbal or physical reprimand when the babe exhibits the wrong behavior. The concept of a punishing god is born.

A careful analysis of the organized religions in human society reveals the child's view toward a parent in almost every aspect. Parents expect the child to contribute to the upkeep around the home by doing chores or handing over their earnings to the parents, and organized religions expect no less from their members. Unquestioning obedience is another parental expectation, most often necessary as during a crisis there is no time to explain to the child why they must follow orders without hesitation. A child putting himself or others in danger must first follow orders and can only ask for an explanation later, if at all. Organized religions take great advantage of this early training, parsing out rules and commandments supposedly coming from a god who cannot be questioned. Rewards for good behavior in most human societies are simply the absence of punishment or privation - do well and you can continue to sleep under the parental roof and sit at the dinner table. Likewise, organized religions phrase the eventual rewards as a right to belong as well as avoidance of various punishments.

Conscious, intelligent life throughout the Universe develops the god concept in very similar ways. Any force outside of the control of the self, able to give life by providing sustenance or inclusion in the group or take away life through privation or expulsion or punishment is seen as a god. In human societies attempts to bribe or placate the god naturally follow along the lines of what worked with the parents. If parental rage dissipates when gifts are offered then the god is likewise offered gifts. If the parents are looking to punish a wrong-doer and the children assign one of their number to take this punishment as a scapegoat then likewise the god may be offered sacrificial scapegoats. Kings, wealthy patrons, and visitors from outer space all can fit into the god mold by virtue of their power to affect the lives of the humans in awe of them. For a god concept to emerge, there must also be a sense of helplessness on the part of the supplicant, a sense that they are powerless to affect the outcome except by offering bribes or scapegoats
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SUCKMYMUSCLE

OUR FATHER, which art in Heaven
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Flexb on January 29, 2011, 10:44:21 PM
He wrote this alien shit?

I don't even know who or what grey alien is.  :D
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: wes mantooth on January 29, 2011, 10:53:14 PM
I'm pretty surprised some of you take this Grey Alien shit for real

i thought grey alien was a reptilian morph of the falcon.....

?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Flexb on January 29, 2011, 10:58:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys)

 :-\
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: 99 Bananas on January 29, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
I could swear that something with an I.Q. of 400 would say something that hits harder than that.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 29, 2011, 11:20:04 PM
  Coach, you are a simple man with simple thoughts. You see everything in black and white. Your understanding of the World is very poor and very basic. You seem to think there is some innate justice in things and that if someone is getting screwed it is because they are bad. I am sorry to break this to you, but bad things happen to good people every day, and it isn't their fault.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

No...what I said wasn't blanket statement, but the majority who depend on government help are perfectly able bodied people who, if they choose could make a life for themselves, instead they choose not too. Why do you suppose that is? I know a lot of people who have came from other countries (legally) with NOTHING and made something of themselves. My golfing partner and one of my best friends came from Lebanon 25 years ago, took odd jobs to put himself through school, saved, bought a gas station, sold it..got into the insurance brokerage business and now has THE LARGEST insurance co. in California. He's one of millions that have proved capitalism works (along with 235 years). 
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: freespirit on January 29, 2011, 11:51:36 PM
 Maybe if they got to keep 100% of the product of their labor instead of 10% because the other 90% goes into the pockets of their bosses, they could afford to not have his kids with hollow eyes. Sure, there are people who are lazy and won't work. But there are millions of people who work very hard and only get to keep 1% of the fruits of their labor because the other 99% goes into the pockets of executives and shareholders. Case in point: the workers in China who work 18 hours a day, six days a weeek, to make U.S40.00 a month. In many cases, the work involves skills, like working at assembling internal combustion engines for cars, and they still make U.S40.00 a week. That's capitalism.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

This!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: freespirit on January 29, 2011, 11:53:06 PM
He's one of millions that have proved capitalism works (along with 235 years). 

It's useless to debate over this, but you are completely wrong.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 02:05:06 AM
No...what I said wasn't blanket statement, but the majority who depend on government help are perfectly able bodied people who, if they choose could make a life for themselves, instead they choose not too. Why do you suppose that is? I know a lot of people who have came from other countries (legally) with NOTHING and made something of themselves. My golfing partner and one of my best friends came from Lebanon 25 years ago, took odd jobs to put himself through school, saved, bought a gas station, sold it..got into the insurance brokerage business and now has THE LARGEST insurance co. in California. He's one of millions that have proved capitalism works (along with 235 years). 

  You are missing the point. If Capitalism rewards hard work like you claim, then why are the hardest people in the Society poor? Why are the high business executives who work 8 hours a day in cushy offices with air conditioning making thousands of time more money than a poor bastard who works 16 hours a day washing dishes standing up? Riddle me that? It is a myth that capitalism rewards hard work. It rewards those who posses money to invest and get more money in return for their investment, or people with exceptional talents that are innate - they didn't have to do anything to earn it -, such as one of those singers from "American Idol" who were just lucky to be born with beautiful voices and perfect pitches. Those are the people that capitalism reward, and not hard workers.

  And most of the talents that allow you to get rich are innate: you are born with them. Exceptional talent for singing, sports or even computer programming are all genetic gifts that you made nothing to ear them. Capitalism is primate territorial dominance at it's worse. The biggest ape with the biggest club got all the power and women, and nowadays the banker with the biggest portfolio wins it all. Same shit, different outer appearance.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 02:08:11 AM
OUR FATHER, which art in Heaven

  Yes.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 02:10:41 AM

 You like getting fucked in the ass huh? That's cool. What's the biggest cock you ever took in your ass? You ever taken a bareback load up your ass?

  It is amazing how cool he is with it. I can understand an openly gay sissy wanting a man's penis in his "mangina", but I don't understand how a man who likes sex with women and playing the role of man with them would be cool with getting fucked in the ass. I just don't get it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 02:11:40 AM
i really like this kinda stuff to

  Getting anally probed?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 10:40:15 AM
 You are missing the point. If Capitalism rewards hard work like you claim, then why are the hardest people in the Society poor? Why are the high business executives who work 8 hours a day in cushy offices with air conditioning making thousands of time more money than a poor bastard who works 16 hours a day washing dishes standing up? Riddle me that? It is a myth that capitalism rewards hard work. It rewards those who posses money to invest and get more money in return for their investment, or people with exceptional talents that are innate - they didn't have to do anything to earn it -, such as one of those singers from "American Idol" who were just lucky to be born with beautiful voices and perfect pitches. Those are the people that capitalism reward, and not hard workers.

  And most of the talents that allow you to get rich are innate: you are born with them. Exceptional talent for singing, sports or even computer programming are all genetic gifts that you made nothing to ear them. Capitalism is primate territorial dominance at it's worse. The biggest ape with the biggest club got all the power and women, and nowadays the banker with the biggest portfolio wins it all. Same shit, different outer appearance.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Not a very hard one to figure out. The poor person - It mostly boils down to the entrepreneurial spirit, does he/she HAVE it, does he/she even WANT it? Will the poor person ever get an exec job without a good education like the person who has the education and HAS the exec job, probably not. But in a capitalist society the potential is ALWAYS there. People rich or poor have a talent, whether hidden or not to expose that talent to make something of themselves as long as they're honest in their business dealings and more importantly LEARN about how business works.

There are hundreds of thousands of success stories of poor people coming from nothing, from other countries only to become wealthy or at the very least make a comfortable living for their families. I started my business with NOTHING and I was single parent, within 2 years I business was making six figures. I had borrowed no money and just kept reinvesting a percentage of what I earned into my business....I still do that today. You can bet the person who wrote that article is making a nice living!!!

Bottom line........if you want it, it's there for the taking. If you don't, quit complaining.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 30, 2011, 10:47:01 AM
  You are missing the point. If Capitalism rewards hard work like you claim, then why are the hardest people in the Society poor? Why are the high business executives who work 8 hours a day in cushy offices with air conditioning making thousands of time more money than a poor bastard who works 16 hours a day washing dishes standing up? Riddle me that? It is a myth that capitalism rewards hard work. It rewards those who posses money to invest and get more money in return for their investment, or people with exceptional talents that are innate - they didn't have to do anything to earn it -, such as one of those singers from "American Idol" who were just lucky to be born with beautiful voices and perfect pitches. Those are the people that capitalism reward, and not hard workers.

  And most of the talents that allow you to get rich are innate: you are born with them. Exceptional talent for singing, sports or even computer programming are all genetic gifts that you made nothing to ear them. Capitalism is primate territorial dominance at it's worse. The biggest ape with the biggest club got all the power and women, and nowadays the banker with the biggest portfolio wins it all. Same shit, different outer appearance.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

x786,0001

SUCK absolutely speaking the truth and laying the pipe on a certain 'simple man'.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 30, 2011, 10:53:47 AM

Not a very hard one to figure out. The poor person - It mostly boils down to the entrepreneurial spirit, does he/she HAVE it, does he/she even WANT it? Will the poor person ever get an exec job without a good education like the person who has the education and HAS the exec job, probably not. But in a capitalist society the potential is ALWAYS there. People rich or poor have a talent, whether hidden or not to expose that talent to make something of themselves as long as they're honest in their business dealings and more importantly LEARN about how business works.

There are hundreds of thousands of success stories of poor people coming from nothing, from other countries only to become wealthy or at the very least make a comfortable living for their families. I started my business with NOTHING and I was single parent, within 2 years I business was making six figures. I had borrowed no money and just kept reinvesting a percentage of what I earned into my business....I still do that today. You can bet the person who wrote that article is making a nice living!!!

Bottom line........if you want it, it's there for the taking. If you don't, quit complaining.

the bottom line is that our 'system' -aside from being effective primarily for those who already have money-only allows for a TINY percentage of the population, in any field or category, to achieve 'success' while the vast majority remains struggling...and is kept going with the illusion that 'it can all be theirs' if they only 'work hard enough'  ::)

truth is, your friend was extremely fortunate. did he work hard? sure, but thats just a prerequisite. there are MILLIONS of people working extremely hard, good, intelligent people...but theres only a few spots open. the difference between the tiny few at the top and the millions of others who worked just as hard is that they had good fortune/breaks along the way. being in the right place at the right time. no matter how they love to justify to themselves as them just being smarter/better than the rest.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
x786,0001

SUCK absolutely speaking the truth and laying the pipe on a certain 'simple man'.

You obviously didn't read what I wrote either that or part of the society that chooses to depend on government for you living. Oh, I get it!!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 10:56:56 AM
the bottom line is that our 'system' -aside from being effective primarily for those who already have money-only allows for a TINY percentage of the population, in any field or category, to achieve 'success' while the vast majority remains struggling...and is kept going with the illusion that 'it can all be theirs' if they only 'work hard enough'  ::)

truth is, your friend was extremely fortunate. did he work hard? sure, but thats just a prerequisite. there are MILLIONS of people working extremely hard, good, intelligent people...but theres only a few spots open. the difference between the tiny few at the top and the millions of others who worked just as hard is that they had good fortune/breaks along the way. being in the right place at the right time. no matter how they love to justify to themselves as them just being smarter/better than the rest.

What country are you from? seriously?

My friend didn't have money when he came here, I didn't come from money.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 30, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
 DISCLAIMER:I don't believe in aliens. I found this response on the web which is supposed to be from a grey alien and I found it interesting and decided to post it for entertainment reasons only.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

So you don't believe in aliens? Does that mean you don't believe in aliens period? Or you don't believe they are/have been here?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 30, 2011, 12:39:18 PM
so you both have been very fortunate...doesnt change the fact that under capitalism (systematic exploitation of EVERYTHING, where everything/everyone is just a commodity) the vast majority of a population will always be struggling just to get by whilst a tiny elite controls 99% of the wealth at their expense.

for every one person who 'makes it', there will be a thousand others who have 'worked just as hard' but will never reach that point.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 12:58:06 PM
so you both have been very fortunate...doesnt change the fact that under capitalism (systematic exploitation of EVERYTHING, where everything/everyone is just a commodity) the vast majority of a population will always be struggling just to get by whilst a tiny elite controls 99% of the wealth at their expense.

for every one person who 'makes it', there will be a thousand others who have 'worked just as hard' but will never reach that point.

We are fortunate because we did work hard (he can retire anytime and still have enough money for his grandkids great grand kids and great great grand kids and he's 50, I will probably never retire but live VERY comfortably) and found a way and accepted nothing less. Same for millions of others in a capitalist society.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: big L dawg on January 30, 2011, 01:09:44 PM
concepts are the result of thought

exactly.....like the god concept...Man thought it then created it....
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Cableguy on January 30, 2011, 01:12:22 PM
"If there was no God, man would find a need to create one."
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
What I know for sure is that if we weren't here, we wouldn't be talking about it. lol

  But we talking about it could still be an illusion.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: tbombz on January 30, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
can you remember which thread you and neoseminole were debating in, i want to read it. You are to far gone however,  the matter around the rocks is obviously arranged differently then the rocks or everything would be indistinguishabe. Perception doesnt alter reality, the double slit experiment has been ass fucked for to long. Seriously, my girlfriend is in the other room, i cant perceive her but im sure she still exists, the evidence for this is that nothing has ever ceased existing from not being perceived, perception does not matter.

God actually raises more questions then it answers. You are suggesting something outside the universe for an explanation of the universe, which by definition cannot exist. Also since no one can be outside the universe or have any
knowledge of thigs outside of space and time, anything you say about such matters is pure conjecture and wild assumptions that can be discarded.


If god exists he is either stupid or doesnt give a fuck, the universe is a shitty design with so many flaws and the human body even more so (fuck myopia is super prevalent, great design on the eye god)


you want existence to be perfect, since GOD is necessarily perfect. existence is not "perfect", and so you dismiss the idea of GOD. you ever think... maybe existence would not be worth having if it was all gravy?  no yin without yang? no up without down? everything is dependant upon its opposite.  gottfried leibniz said we live in the best of all possible worlds. why? the most phenomeno with the least laws.  :) God obviously doesnt want his existence to be directly verifiable by the masses. but most of us feel like we can know he exists through inference to the best explanation.  if you take an extremely pessimistic view, you can always analyze everything and attribute it to nature, and bypass the need for any God.

why didnt god make the world perfect? well, you have a moral conscous right? you have emotions? you have a feeling that you want to, or you should be doing right in the world? where does this feeling come from? morals are not something that evolution would naturally select. its all about the survival of the fittest and people without morals are more suited to survive than those without.  maybe existence is a testing ground, to see which spirits can do good and resist evil, stay grateful for the life they have been given, and then god can trust them into his kingdom and the power that comes with it. or maybe we are all part of god, and existence is Gods way (our way) of slowly building a perfect existence, or coming as close to it as possible. existence follows ccreation follows concepts follows thought. everytime we desire something (experience something we dont like=we know something we do like), be create a new, slightly better version of relaity. slowly over time we, as a whole, move towards that which we desire.

i dont have time right now to go into more detail but if you reply im sure ill have a reply in turn  :)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
This Grey Alien dude seems like a real tool. Against God, against capitalism...wait, I've seen this somewhere before, oh yeah, thats right.......liberals!
Title: Grey Alien on Homosexuals.
Post by: OneMoreRep on January 30, 2011, 03:13:53 PM
The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 on why Homosexuals are superb beings with intelligence parallel by none and his detailing of how all aliens are homosexual and in need of no women to procreate. This is what the alien said during a channeling session when asked this question:

  "A goal of research scientists is to create humans of superhuman strength, sexual prowess and intelligence, while ultimately lengthening lifespan.  Homosexuals are so effective at running matters that all of mankind would, in essence, become akin to the lower class - waiting on homos on hand and foot. To be effective in these roles, humans would have to repair and reproduce themselves, or each other, i.e. propagate; be able to adapt to changing circumstances, i.e. learn; and, since mankind can't be bothered, make logical determinations, i.e. think. Standing between the homosexual and sentient life forms, then, lies only emotion - hopes, caring, desire, rage - the motivators. In pursuit of this dream servant, scientists are casting a jealous eye on biological elements, which can force humanity to become enslaved to the powers of the cock.  Only by such methods can humanity slowly evolve into the present state of homosexuality shared by only that of extraterrestrial beings.

"1"
Title: Re: Grey Alien on Homosexuals.
Post by: Natural Man on January 30, 2011, 03:50:03 PM
so thomas slater is grey alien?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 30, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
 But we talking about it could still be an illusion.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I have heard about life being an "illusion" in bits and pieces over the years. Do you think with enough brain power, or by using enough of ones brain, one could see the world for what it truly is?

When it comes to these topics, sometimes I feel like the more I learn, the less I understand.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Cableguy on January 30, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
the only reason it isnt satisfactory to you is because you arent accepting the omnipotence of GOD. God necessarily exists, his essence is existence, and his existence demands his omnipotence.


heres the proof = free will

An all knowing God negates the existance of "free will".
Title: Re: Grey Alien on Homosexuals.
Post by: 225for70 on January 30, 2011, 04:00:48 PM
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Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Marty Champions on January 30, 2011, 04:04:13 PM
  You, of all people, would dare to criticize this. And yet you cannot formulate any arguments against anything the alien wrote.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

kinda like when people claim vegetarian diets are unhealthy even though you can make proper complete protien combinations with the right plant foods. Now you feel my pain bro?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Marty Champions on January 30, 2011, 04:05:42 PM

''Maybe God didnt always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence''

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   TBombz

hahah

Title: Re: Grey Alien on Homosexuals.
Post by: benchmstr on January 30, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
being gay is just a act of sexual perversion...no mystery there...its no different than the weird ass's that dress up like animals to fuck...hope this helps..

bench
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
This Grey Alien dude seems like a real tool. Against God, against capitalism...wait, I've seen this somewhere before, oh yeah, thats right.......liberals!

  That makes perfect sense since liberals do outscore conservatives in IQ tests, achievement tests, SAT scores and admission to Ivy League universities. Maybe the more intelligent and advanced we become, the more liberal/libertarian we will become. Dumb people tend to be conservative because stupid people fear change because they can't understand it.

  And the grey alien is not necessarily against capitalism. It makes no value-judgement as to whether capitalism is good or bad. It points out that capitalism does work better at creating wealth. It then proceeds to point out that, in capitalism, more material goods are produced but that idiossyncrasies like the top 1% of the earning bracket has 90% of all the wealth are the result of it. The conclusion of the alien seems to be this: under Capitalism, a few enjoy lives of unbounded luxury and pleasure, whilst the rest of the population struggles to just get by. Under communism, all equally starve. Which is better? The alien is silent on this issue. Most of the Humanity has concluded that a system where a few are billionaires and the rest of the population lives modest lives with very little pleasure and leisure is better than a system where everyone equally starves. But just because capitalism is a little better than communism, it does not make the capitalist system good. It is, in fact, animal predation at it's worst.

  And the alien is not against God. It points out that Human relationship to God is very similar to that of a child seeking for a daddy to protect it from the big, bad World. Humans can't deal emotionally with the fact that life is horrible and then you die and that's the end. The horror of this is so great that the only solution Humans have found is to make up a super-daddy up in the skies who will reward them afet death with the good life they didn't have on Earth. Why will super-daddy reward them? Because they were good little boys and girls in this life!

  Does God exist according to the grey alien? It points out that reality is a truth in itself, and thus eternal and inexplicable since any attempts to define it is pointless due to the fact that all definitions of reality are contained in reality itself. All intelligence is also contained in reality. In conclusion: you can call reality God if you want to, but it is certainly not the Christian, Muslim or Buddhist God.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
kinda like when people claim vegetarian diets are unhealthy even though you can make proper complete protien combinations with the right plant foods. Now you feel my pain bro?

  No, I don't feel your pain. In fact, this comment of yours has absolutely nothing in common with my comment on T'bombs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 05:59:23 PM
So you don't believe in aliens? Does that mean you don't believe in aliens period? Or you don't believe they are/have been here?

  The Drake Equation predicts thousands of alien civilization in this galaxy and thus trillions in the Universe. But the Drake Equation assumes that life develops on all planets that can sustain life. This is wrong because the "trigger" that makes organic molecules to start replicating and becoming living might be freakishly rare. Out of the trillions of planets in the Universe suited for life, it might have only developed in a few thousand or even hundreds. And in most of the planets where life is possible, life might have been wiped out before it could develop into intelligent species - by super-volcanoes, giant meteors or pole shifts. Or life might have never achieved the level of intelligence. Ouf of the estimated 40,000,000,000 species on Earth, only one became self-aware and intelligent. So intelligent aliens are probably extraordinarilly rare. Out of the trillions of planets in the Universe suited for life, my guess is that a few dozen at the most have intelligent alien life. But I do think that they might be out there somewhere. Yep.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Wiggs on January 30, 2011, 06:48:37 PM
Suckmuscle, Where from are you getting this information?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 06:54:55 PM
Suckmuscle, Where from are you getting this information?

  I am in direct telepathic communication with an alien entity possesed of powers of thought beyond Human comprehension.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Wiggs on January 30, 2011, 07:00:20 PM
  I am in direct telepathic communication with an alien entity possesed of powers of though beyond Human comprehension.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Please keep posting then.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 30, 2011, 07:17:50 PM
  The Drake Equation predicts thousands of alien civilization in this galaxy and thus trillions in the Universe. But the Drake Equation assumes that life develops on all planets that can sustain life. This is wrong because the "trigger" that makes organic molecules to start replicating and becoming living might be freakishly rare. Out of the trillions of planets in the Universe suited for life, it might have only developed in a few thousand or even hundreds. And in most of the planets where life is possible, life might have been wiped out before it could develop into intelligent species - by super-volcanoes, giant meteors or pole shifts. Or life might have never achieved the level of intelligence. Ouf of the estimated 40,000,000,000 species on Earth, only one became self-aware and intelligent. So intelligent aliens are probably extraordinarilly rare. Out of the trillions of planets in the Universe suited for life, my guess is that a few dozen at the most have intelligent alien life. But I do think that they might be out there somewhere. Yep.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Some believe that the battle at Kruger shows animals being self-aware


Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: 225for70 on January 30, 2011, 07:27:21 PM
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Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 08:08:22 PM
Please keep posting then.

  Will do. Yes.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 08:09:55 PM
Some believe that the battle at Kruger shows animals being self-aware




  No. None of these animals could pass the Turing test.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: tbombz on January 30, 2011, 08:17:46 PM


  The only thing you are good at is obfuscation through verbiage. Playing with words and making blanket statements is your modus operandi.

  How does this prove that God exist ??? Even if we have free will, which I am not sure we have, how is this evidence that God exists? There is no logical correlation between free will and the existence or not of a God. In fact, if there is a God there is less free will since an intelligent entity that created everything would create the Universe with it's own biased parameters.

  Our free will, if we have it(debeatable) could be the result of natural selection allowing us free reign to decide what to do when there are many choices because the DNA cannot possibly know what is best for it's own survival all the time given the chaotic medium where it has to propagate - our physical World.

  Volition doesen't exist for most species, and it is debateable whether there is any for Humans. A schizofrenic cannot stop hallucinating through free will, nor can a depressive simply become happy by deciding to see the positive side of things because he can't. Most pedophilles still molest children even when they know they are gona get caught and get beat to death in jail or fry in the electric chair.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you have complete free will over all f your decisions, and that is something completely assbackwards with the concept of natural selection. the ability to contradict experience, which is exactly what free will is, is somehing inherently flawed if we are talking about who is best for survival. experience would be the only deciding factor. but we can be rational or irrational, moral or immmoral, spontaneous or structured. the choice is all ours to make. free will is a strong argument for the existence of god, for a transcendant human soul.

its not obfuscation, you arent even using that term properly
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: 99 Bananas on January 30, 2011, 08:28:06 PM
I can't imagine the above average intelligence at best humans on this board could possibly come close to understanding a ''god'' capable of creating the universe. You don't know shit and your theories are retarded stfu.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
Not a very hard one to figure out. The poor person - It mostly boils down to the entrepreneurial spirit, does he/she HAVE it, does he/she even WANT it?

  What a load of garbage. Entrepeneurial spirit? Who are you? Adam Smith's retarded little cousin? How is someone working at McDonald's getting the money to start a business? And you are assuming that everyone can just run a business. Even if you have the capital to invest, you need an MBA to know what you're doing or at least a degree in management - which cost money to get -, and you need the innate intelligence to run the business. And 99% of businesses fail in the first year. Very few people became rich by starting a business, and in most cases they are geniuses like Bill Gates and Henry Ford. Most of the rich people in the World became rich investing their money on companies that already exist or on the stock market. And guess what? You need money to invest and make money, and you need knowledge of finance and the innate intelligence to figure out your next move. Less that 0.1% of the population has all these things.

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Will the poor person ever get an exec job without a good education like the person who has the education and HAS the exec job, probably not.

  My point exactly. You need to get into Harvard to get an executive job that will make you really rich, and you are not getting in there if you don't have a rich daddy and are among the top 2% of the population in intelligence. And if you don't have a rich daddy, then you need to be at the top 0.01% of the population in intelligence to get a Harvard scholarship. This is an impossible dream for the average man. You should have the common sense to know this since you are a common man both in terms of intelligence and education, but apparently you don't.

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But in a capitalist society the potential is ALWAYS there.

  Sure, winning the loterry is always a possibility. This is pretty much the only way that an average man of average intelligence and no capital to invest can become rich. By opening a business? No money, and if he gets a loan(unlikely), his business will fail. Lots of smart, educated people open businesses every year and 99% of them fail in the first year. By becoming a corporate CEO? No intelligence and/or money to get the Ivy League MBA necessary to get hired as a CEO of a company large enough to pay you enough for you to become a rich man with your job.

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People rich or poor have a talent,

  99.99% of all people have no talent whatsoever, and of those 0.01% who have a talent, only a handful have the extreme talent to become rich with it. There are lots of very good college basketball players but only one LeBron James. All those college basketball players who don't get drafted into the NBA end up cleaning toilets after college.

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whether hidden or not to expose that talent to make something of themselves as long as they're honest in their business dealings and more importantly LEARN about how business works.


  You are probably a salesman. Your sales pitch is good. You should work giving motivational speeches about how you can achieve everything in life if you just work hard enough. You can be the next Michael Jordan if you just practice basketball enough! You can become the next CEO of Lehman Brothers if you get into Harvard by just studying hard enough! You can win the Nobel prize in literature if you just practice your writing enough! You can become the next Bill Gates by getting a loan and starting your own business in your garage! Hell, yeah! The sky is the limit! I am the next Beethoven or Einstein! All I need to do is work enough. Weeeeeeeewhooooooo!!!!!!!

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There are hundreds of thousands of success stories of poor people coming from nothing,

  No, there aren't! Out of the millions of businesses that were started, only a handful became successful enough for their founders to become millionaires. Like Mark Zuckerberg, who was writing computer programs in C language at the age of 7 and was too smart even for Harvard. For every Mark Zuckerberg, there are literally a million failures.

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from other countries only to become wealthy or at the very least make a comfortable living for their families.

  This is true, but the immigrant success stories are of people who were highly educated in their countries and above average intelligence, such as Indian computer programmers, who made it to the U.S to work in Sillicon Valley. And they are "succesfull" in the sense that they were poor and made it into the middle class. We are talking about people who come from nothing and become members of the upper class. These people are as rare as red diamonds.

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I started my business with NOTHING and I was single parent, within 2 years I business was making six figures. I had borrowed no money and just kept reinvesting a percentage of what I earned into my business....I still do that today. You can bet the person who wrote that article is making a nice living!!!

  I don't know under what circumstances you became rich or even if you are even telling the truth, but you probably just lucked out by starting a business in a time and location where there was a demand for whatever you did. It can't be a rational decision to work at that because you don't strike me as a very bright person. And in any case, your success story doesen't mitigate the millions of people who worked just as hard as you and failed. Hell, people with degrees from good universities who work 17 hours a day are happy after 30 years of hard work to become upper middle class. Poor people becoming filfthy rich is extraodinarily rare.

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Bottom line........if you want it, it's there for the taking. If you don't, quit complaining.

  Oh, yeah? What about the millions of people with degrees from good universities who work 17 hours a day including weekends and can do no better than be middle class living in tiny houses with a single car for the whole family and work at cubicles every day? What do you have to say about that? That they lack entrepeneurial spirit? What about that out of 100 of these intelligent, hard working people who start businesses, 99 are broke in the first year? Cut your garbage, dude. You seem like one of those redneck hicks from the Tea Party saying these incredibly stupid things.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 30, 2011, 08:55:29 PM
you have complete free will over all f your decisions, and that is something completely assbackwards with the concept of natural selection. the ability to contradict experience, which is exactly what free will is, is somehing inherently flawed if we are talking about who is best for survival. experience would be the only deciding factor. but we can be rational or irrational, moral or immmoral, spontaneous or structured. the choice is all ours to make. free will is a strong argument for the existence of god, for a transcendant human soul.

its not obfuscation, you arent even using that term properly

  Dude, just STFU. More nonsensical verbiage that doesen't mean shit and I am sure that not even you know what the hell you are talking about.

  And the word is obfuscation. I am using the term correctly. You obfuscate everything with your verbal diarrhea. You write a lot and don't say anything. Tons of words used incorrectly and unnecessarily that don't really express any logical idea.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 30, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
Fucking WOW.....just wow....you REALLY DO NOT GET IT do you?? People like you really think government is the answer and you probably really think government creates jobs don't you? I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Matrix (that i never got an answer from) what country are you from? How old are you? and do you even have a job? Do you even want to succeed financially or just depend on handouts? Define "rich" for me. Am I "rich"? No, but with the exception of my home(s), I have no debt, not even credit cards, I have a healthy six figure income from a business I built from scratch, money in the bank, etc, etc, etc. No dude, most people are just fucking lazy and are content with what they have and complain about people who have more. You really do not get it!!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Rami on January 30, 2011, 09:04:01 PM
Hi, alien, why do you type everything in big ol' bunched up sentences and bold text?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on January 30, 2011, 10:11:11 PM
So what are your thought on abductions? sightings of life-forms? ufo's etc?

Even though its rare for ET's to exist like you said, what do you call all of that?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 30, 2011, 10:34:27 PM
What is better for the rich fat cats than universal praise for capitalism. When even the exploited poorest of poor sing the praise. Ah, America.
Title: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: kiwiol on January 30, 2011, 10:48:10 PM
The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 agreed to answer some questions posed by a Getbigger during an online posting session.

Grey Alien: Please proceed with your questions and I shall answer them for you...

Getbigger: You really are an alien? ::)

GA: Indeed, I'm not human or even from your planet. And I am unfamiliar with the expression at the end of your question. What does that mean?

GB: It means I'm thinking, "sure you are. gayer than travelling 90 trillion miles to probe a musclebear's anus hahahaha"

GA: Scepticism noted and understood, but why not ask me something and see what I have to say? Would you like to know the meaning of life, perhaps?

GB: Your mom is the meaning of my life

GA: *Silence*

...

GA      18:50     Reporting topic to moderator
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 30, 2011, 10:54:13 PM
Some day humans can replicate a human brain in digital form. It's easy, the brain is right there.
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on January 30, 2011, 11:01:28 PM
Those gray aliens are bitches.  :D
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: Alex23 on January 30, 2011, 11:22:31 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!

"Grey Alien on 'Fatpanda' "... ;D
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Alex23 on January 30, 2011, 11:31:31 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.

I thought he was being sarcastic... couple of times a year we volunteer at the OC Mission amongst others; I'm always amazed how much resources are available for ppl in hardship to "get back on their feet"...

and this is supposed to be "hyper capitalism" capital of the world... .. ::)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Alex23 on January 30, 2011, 11:33:36 PM
Maybe if the kids with. Hollow eyes had parents that wernt lazy could get off their lazy asses to get a job or start a business instead of the "woah is me" excuse, this wouldn't happen!! More on this later.

I thought he was being sarcastic... couple of times a year we volunteer at the OC Mission amongst others; I'm always amazed how much resources are available for ppl in hardship to "get back on their feet"...

and this is supposed to be "hyper capitalism" capital of the world... .. ::)
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: pluck on January 31, 2011, 03:21:07 AM
Lot of poor anti capitalists who live paycheck to paycheck washing dishes and mowing lawns in this thread.
Guess what fuckers...your opinions do not matter because you're all too stupid/lazyto make money in a system where it's ready for the pickin'.


For the people who are not entreprenurial, which is perfectly fine...just go to college and get a degree in a field where there's lots of opportunity. That's not rocket science.


Or maybe I got trolled ?

Of course the exec in a white collar is going to make more money than the guy washing dishes or cleaning toilets. If you need someone to explain the reason why that is...well have fun living the rest of your life looking from the outside in. 
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: DK II on January 31, 2011, 03:57:46 AM
LMFAO!!
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: Wiggs on January 31, 2011, 03:59:59 AM
lol!
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 04:14:57 AM
The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 agreed to answer some questions posed by a Getbigger during an online posting session.

Grey Alien: Please proceed with your questions and I shall answer them for you...

Getbigger: You really are an alien? ::)

GA: Indeed, I'm not human or even from your planet. And I am unfamiliar with the expression at the end of your question. What does that mean?

GB: It means I'm thinking, "sure you are. gayer than travelling 90 trillion miles to probe a musclebear's anus hahahaha"

GA: Scepticism noted and understood, but why not ask me something and see what I have to say? Would you like to know the meaning of life, perhaps?

GB: Your mom is the meaning of my life

GA: *Silence*

...

GA      18:50     Reporting topic to moderator

  Kiwi, the entity is an asexual clone, hence no mom. Hence your joke is a self-ownage. This guy is laughing at you. You can't see him moving his lips because they laugh telepatically. :D :D :D :D

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: kiwiol on January 31, 2011, 04:18:21 AM
  Kiwi, the entity is an asexual clone, hence no mom. Hence your joke is a self-ownage. This guy is laughing at you. You can't see him moving his lips because they laugh telepatically. :D :D :D :D

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I just wrote it for a laugh. Anyway, you should know by now that facts and logic don't carry much weight in Getbigger arguments or ownages :D
Title: Grey Alien On Human Dietetic Character.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 04:31:51 AM
  Many people have been wondering what is the ideal diet for Humans. Are Humans better of eating a zero carb diet? A Paleolithic diet? A diet of mostly fruits and vegetables? A diet containing all the four food groups? A Mediterranean diet?

  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 settles the issue once and for all. According to the alien, Humans are omnivores but of a very specific kind. We can and profit from eating everything, but not simultaneously. Failing to understand this results in bad health and other problems.

  "Humans are omnivores, as during their evolution they required the ability to eat a broad diet in order to survive. Carnivores develop in species that are swift and voracious, but only where a continuous and ample supply of prey exist. Imagine a tiger with nothing but grass to eat. The tiger may be willing to eat almost anything when the hunger pangs get strong enough, but his digestive system won’t process anything but meat. Carnivores die when their prey dies out. Species that are vegetarians also have specialized digestive tracts, designed to break down the tough fiber that is intrinsic to plant life. They have multiple stomachs in many cases, digesting in stages. All species that eat plants consume insects as a matter of course, as insects are scattered throughout the plants they munch on, and thus are always part of the intake.

Thus, species that evolve are either carnivores, vegetarian, or omnivores. The omnivore, of which mankind is a member, evolve to meet wildly swinging cycles of food availability. Early humans, being land animals and highly mobile, could travel during drought to areas lush with vegetation. Strictly vegetarian animals do this likewise, but as their digestive tracts digest fiber effectively, they can nibble on dried vegetation on the way. Humans, evolved from apes which were adjusted to eating fruits and insects as well as vegetation, do not have the apparatus to digest fiber. Thus, while on the road during droughts, they would have starved unless able to kill and eat meat. They have dual digestive systems, in effect.

Humans are designed, due to the influence of food availability during evolution, to eat either vegetables and fruits or meat, but not both at the same time. This is a fact not widely recognized or understood by humans, and thus they do themselves damage by eating both foods at meals, routinely. Imagine the cave man on the road, traveling to lush fields of vegetation where fruits and grains and tubers could be located with ease. The troop kills a deer or elephant, and feasts on nothing but meat and blood for days, consuming the entire kill before it can spoil. They do this repeatedly while on the road. When they arrive at their destination, they find they no longer need to take the physical risks that hunting invariably presents - flailing hooves and charging frightened beasts. They become vegetarians

  Modern man misunderstands what the cave man ate while lolling about during their vegetarian periods. They did not live strictly on vegetables and fruits and grains. They ate any and everything that was handy, and this included numerous insects and slow moving life forms such as mollusks and possums. They ate less meat, but the diet was highly varied and included occasional small bites from sources other than plants. Thus, those modern humans who try to live what they interpret to be a strictly vegetarian life suffer from malnutrition - poor immunity, anemia, lack of strength, and inability to deal with stress. Man was not designed to live by vegetables alone, and must accommodate their body with protein sources from living creatures other than plants, or suffer the consequences.

  Human nutrition, and alternative medicines such as herbs, is well enough understood by mankind that we can not provide any new insights. In general, eating a balanced diet and eating food raw where it does not carry disease provides the best nutrition. Small meals, eaten frequently, allows for better digestion. The starving body is more efficient at digestion than the overfed, which tends to dispense with a big meal as something to be rid of rather than processed. Humans who have been dictated to by their schools, medical profession, and salesmen for the food industry, have often turned off their natural sensors as to what to eat and how to treat their bodies. Small children, left to pick and chose what to eat from an array of healthy foods, will invariably select a balanced diet over a period of days, and will chose those foods that help their particular metabolism or biology, even without having a medical degree or being directed to do so. If cold weather is approaching, foods that will put on a layer of fat are selected. In hot weather, a lighter diet of salads and fruits is more appealing. These natural signals, which go beyond diet and into health in general, should be listened to. Go back to being a child, in listening to your body, which knows itself well.
"

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: dr.chimps on January 31, 2011, 04:33:06 AM
GA punked out faster than FatPanda on a Kit-Kat bender.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 04:44:05 AM
Hi, alien, why do you type everything in big ol' bunched up sentences and bold text?

  Despite their super-intelligence, aliens cannot write properly because they don't use language. They are telepathic. They sentences are masterpieces of logical coherence, but lack the expression of Humans. They sound cold to us. Because they are. Aliens are like Shldon Cooper on brain steroids: close to four times the intelligence of a Human but severely Aspy....

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Human Dietetic Character.
Post by: dj181 on January 31, 2011, 04:51:33 AM
Good post, but I'm curious as to what Master Falcon has to say about all of this
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Marty Champions on January 31, 2011, 05:09:03 AM
  No, I don't feel your pain. In fact, this comment of yours has absolutely nothing in common with my comment on T'bombs.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

bullshit you cant argue against complete plant protein combinations and commanding 100% protein absorpability
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: dawakaman on January 31, 2011, 05:12:30 AM
LOL funny shit
Title: Grey Alien On the Origin Of Life.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 05:22:42 AM
  Everyone knows the process of natural selection, where random mutations either surrive or are eliminated by competing to see which can adapt best for survival in the natural environment. But the origin of life eludes our scientists. No one knows how it all started. What caused inanimate matter to become living matter?

  The alien entity explains this to us, but points out that creating life is vastly beyond our current scientific capabilities:

  "Humans assume life to be something vastly different from ordinary matter that is not alive, but this is only due to Humans not being able to see the forest because their brains are only able to perceive the trees. Life is matter utilizing energy, like the heat generated by the fusion of atoms from the Sun making water transform from the liquid to gaseous state, or like the elements inside a star utilizing the weight of it's own gravity to produce heavier and heavier elements. Putting it more forward, matter and energy are also the same unlike what the one called Einstein believed, and energy is nothing more than matter that can move it's position in the field, whilst matter can only move if operated on the energy. Space is merely a field of operation. Life follows the same principle, except that it occurs much faster and with greater complexity than the transformations of elements into different physical states or atoms into heavier atoms."

  How does matter that appears to be nonliving come to life? The process is as follows: elements that form at the core of stars bombard a planet that is suited for life by not being too close to a star that temperatures are too high or too far that is is cold. These elements are amine derived compounds that form under extreme pressures. The amine-related substances then fall into highly acidic mediums. Under the heat of the Sun, water and Oxygen polysaccharides are formed. What is special and that Humans haven't grasped yet, is the special property of a certain nucleic acid that forms by the amine compounds in highly acidic mediums to store memory by a process similar to what crystals store the memory of sound waves that pass through them. Then, an extraodinary event forms. A gigantic burst of a special type of radiation produced by neutron stars happen to bombard the nucleic acid. This radiation is extremely posionous and deleterious to the nucleic acid. It stores the information that the nucleic acid will be destroyed. Thus, the nucleic acid utilizes the available energy of the polysaccharides that surround it to create a copy of itself so that it will continue to exist. It then realizes that more challenges are met and that further adaptations will be required. It then changes itself into DNA so that it can store more complex information and starts to utilize the polysaccharides as fuel and to utilize the amines and acids that surround it to create the building blocks for the body that will enable it to survive. The process of replication starts. Life is born. On your planet, this happened 4.5 billions of your Earth years ago, as a gigantic Supernova on Canis Minora exploded and then collpased into a neutron star, emitting a gigantic burst of radiation that bombarded your planet for nine million years.

  Humans cannot and will not create life in a laboratory. The type of nucleic acid that stores information is a very specific one and there are literally billions that can be made. Humans will never discover which one it is. But even if a Human scientist did, it would be for nothing. It takes millions of years of bombardment from a neutron star to make the nucleic acid to start replicating. Causing this to hapen in a few minutes would require dozens of neutron stars in close proximity and this is vastly beyond the capabilities of Humans. We are vastly more advanced than you, and we cannot create life even though we know how to. More advanced beings than we are, who have evolved for billions of your Earth years, can create life directly. They have evolved beyond matter, time and also energy and exist as pure thought, and they can create life by directly infusing themselves on several levels of consciousness into inanimate matter. They are god-like entities. But creating life through technology is vastly beyond even our capabilities, let alone that of primitive Humans. Creating life is the ultimate technological accomplishment and it is only for gods.
"

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 05:39:59 AM
Some day humans can replicate a human brain in digital form. It's easy, the brain is right there.

  It is not easy at all. Neurons can build and rebuild themselves and self-program themselves according by learning to adapt to it's environment. This is so far beyond what computers can do that it is not funny. Looooool. Seriously, an amoeba has more intelligence and self-awareness than the World's most powerful computer.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 05:40:53 AM
 That makes perfect sense since liberals do outscore conservatives in IQ tests, achievement tests, SAT scores and admission to Ivy League universities. Maybe the more intelligent and advanced we become, the more liberal/libertarian we will become. Dumb people tend to be conservative because stupid people fear change because they can't understand it.

  And the grey alien is not necessarily against capitalism. It makes no value-judgement as to whether capitalism is good or bad. It points out that capitalism does work better at creating wealth. It then proceeds to point out that, in capitalism, more material goods are produced but that idiossyncrasies like the top 1% of the earning bracket has 90% of all the wealth are the result of it. The conclusion of the alien seems to be this: under Capitalism, a few enjoy lives of unbounded luxury and pleasure, whilst the rest of the population struggles to just get by. Under communism, all equally starve. Which is better? The alien is silent on this issue. Most of the Humanity has concluded that a system where a few are billionaires and the rest of the population lives modest lives with very little pleasure and leisure is better than a system where everyone equally starves. But just because capitalism is a little better than communism, it does not make the capitalist system good. It is, in fact, animal predation at it's worst.

  And the alien is not against God. It points out that Human relationship to God is very similar to that of a child seeking for a daddy to protect it from the big, bad World. Humans can't deal emotionally with the fact that life is horrible and then you die and that's the end. The horror of this is so great that the only solution Humans have found is to make up a super-daddy up in the skies who will reward them afet death with the good life they didn't have on Earth. Why will super-daddy reward them? Because they were good little boys and girls in this life!

  Does God exist according to the grey alien? It points out that reality is a truth in itself, and thus eternal and inexplicable since any attempts to define it is pointless due to the fact that all definitions of reality are contained in reality itself. All intelligence is also contained in reality. In conclusion: you can call reality God if you want to, but it is certainly not the Christian, Muslim or Buddhist God.

SUCKMYMUSCLE



  Coach fucking owned!!!!!

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: kiwiol on January 31, 2011, 06:26:31 AM
  It is not easy at all. Neurons can build and rebuild themselves and self-program themselves according by learning to adapt to it's environment. This is so far beyond what computers can do that it is not funny. Looooool. Seriously, an amoeba has more intelligence and self-awareness than the World's most powerful computer.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I agree. It seems several stages away, in terms of both theory and technology, like a mobile phone would be around the time humans were learning to make fire.
Title: Re: Grey Alien vs Getbigger
Post by: kyomu on January 31, 2011, 06:34:06 AM
Grey alien, God, devil.... Who care?
They sure have right to complain to us.
Because the people who use them (as the excuse and escaping from the responsability for the purpose of protesting their ego) and doing what they want is US.
So they have never tried to controle us.Never.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Natural Man on January 31, 2011, 06:34:49 AM
what if an extra terestrial (ET) is in fact a human who extracted himself from earth in the future, went into space, found nothing there then got back to earth and crashed at roswell by mistake? the travel in space/time would have make him come back in time in the 50s even if he left earth in the 3000's (if not later).

The ET/roswell is like a human of today but after hundreds/thousands of years of evolution. think about it, no hair, small, thin, big brain, big eyes, it's exactly the way humans are evolving right at the moment. Might have cybernetics implants, artificials organs that never fail , no need for clothes as his skin adapts itself automatically to heat or cold. Has a "wifi" mind that can penetrates into other forms of life with lower intelligence. He's gray and has big eyes cause he s a mix of asian, caucasian and black, arab humans.

ET is in fact ... a human who evolved, left earth and returned to it.  
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 06:46:40 AM
I agree. It seems several stages away, in terms of both theory and technology, like a mobile phone would be around the time humans were learning to make fire.

  Despite the colossal rate of advancement in computer technology, it might take another 50-100 years for us to create full blown A.I and it might never happen.

  The fundamental difference between Human intelligence and computer is that Human neurons can program themselves at will from learned data, whilst computers follow a predetermined program and no matter how sophisticated the chores they are prgrammed to do, they never break free from the program.

  Ray Kurzweil is a charlatan guy who claims that we already have "limited" A.I and that by 2029 we will have the "singularity" as computers become self-aware and start to redesign themselves.  What a load of garbage. What we have are computers programmed to mimic Human mental abilities, such as completing sequences of figures or reading facial expressions. But they are still following a program and they cannot make a single decision by themselves. Even if you programmed it to think like a Human and the simulations of Human mental processes had become sophisticated enough, it would still not be self-aware. I would be something that thought exactly like a Human but would still use it's programmed parameters to determine on what and how it should use it's Human thinking. Some say that the solution would be to give it the ability to analyse data and make decisions based on cause-and-effect from what it learned from decisions made in the past. The programming would be simply to program it so "keep your neural newtwork learning and and don't allow it to be destroyed". This would give it the closest think to a true Human personality, as it would gather data and then have to make arbitrary decisions based on experience on what to do next. Hence, cunning and emotions and self-awareness, which are the characteristics that separates living intelligence from programmed data-procesing. The truth is that little progress has been made since Von Neumann wrote his "Computer And The Brain" in 1954

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 31, 2011, 06:52:24 AM
Hahahahaha, like most libs, he's a delusional clown!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 31, 2011, 08:38:17 AM
Fucking WOW.....just wow....you REALLY DO NOT GET IT do you?? People like you really think government is the answer and you probably really think government creates jobs don't you? I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Matrix (that i never got an answer from) what country are you from? How old are you? and do you even have a job? Do you even want to succeed financially or just depend on handouts? Define "rich" for me. Am I "rich"? No, but with the exception of my home(s), I have no debt, not even credit cards, I have a healthy six figure income from a business I built from scratch, money in the bank, etc, etc, etc. No dude, most people are just fucking lazy and are content with what they have and complain about people who have more. You really do not get it!!

im from america and have been here all my life. what exactly do you do...what business did you start that you are now living well off of?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 31, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
  Wow, some imbecile moderator merged all the alien questions into a single thread. That ruined it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Spike on January 31, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
what if an extra terestrial (ET) is in fact a human who extracted himself from earth in the future, went into space, found nothing there then got back to earth and crashed at roswell by mistake? the travel in space/time would have make him come back in time in the 50s even if he left earth in the 3000's (if not later).

The ET/roswell is like a human of today but after hundreds/thousands of years of evolution. think about it, no hair, small, thin, big brain, big eyes, it's exactly the way humans are evolving right at the moment. Might have cybernetics implants, artificials organs that never fail , no need for clothes as his skin adapts itself automatically to heat or cold. Has a "wifi" mind that can penetrates into other forms of life with lower intelligence. He's gray and has big eyes cause he s a mix of asian, caucasian and black, arab humans.

ET is in fact ... a human who evolved, left earth and returned to it.  

SHIT fckn BALLS


his flux capcitator prob broke and he was stuck in 1955 - fckn a

he prob needed the 1.21 jigawatts in order to generate enough energy to get back to the yr 3000 to his dad whos a pussy and gets housed by biff everyday of his worthless fatpanda phone station manager life
(http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content09/flux-capacitor.jpg)
Title: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:36:49 AM
  Do aliens believe in God? Does God exist? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 was asked this question during a channeling session and this was what it had to say:

  "Humans quite naturally tend to think of their relationship to a god in child-to-parent terms, an outgrowth not only from their impressionable early years but also from their general sense of hopelessness in being able to control their environment. They remain, to a certain extent, a child always, the child within masked by the face of adulthood but inwardly looking to a parent to rescue them or guide them. The concept of a god as something larger and more powerful than the self, who makes things happen, begins in the helpless babe who finds himself cared for whether he asks for it or not, but mostly when he fusses. The concept of prayer is born - I ask and most of the time I receive. Molding the infant's behavior to meet the expectations of the family or social group begins early, with a sharp verbal or physical reprimand when the babe exhibits the wrong behavior. The concept of a punishing god is born.

A careful analysis of the organized religions in human society reveals the child's view toward a parent in almost every aspect. Parents expect the child to contribute to the upkeep around the home by doing chores or handing over their earnings to the parents, and organized religions expect no less from their members. Unquestioning obedience is another parental expectation, most often necessary as during a crisis there is no time to explain to the child why they must follow orders without hesitation. A child putting himself or others in danger must first follow orders and can only ask for an explanation later, if at all. Organized religions take great advantage of this early training, parsing out rules and commandments supposedly coming from a god who cannot be questioned. Rewards for good behavior in most human societies are simply the absence of punishment or privation - do well and you can continue to sleep under the parental roof and sit at the dinner table. Likewise, organized religions phrase the eventual rewards as a right to belong as well as avoidance of various punishments.

Conscious, intelligent life throughout the Universe develops the god concept in very similar ways. Any force outside of the control of the self, able to give life by providing sustenance or inclusion in the group or take away life through privation or expulsion or punishment is seen as a god. In human societies attempts to bribe or placate the god naturally follow along the lines of what worked with the parents. If parental rage dissipates when gifts are offered then the god is likewise offered gifts. If the parents are looking to punish a wrong-doer and the children assign one of their number to take this punishment as a scapegoat then likewise the god may be offered sacrificial scapegoats. Kings, wealthy patrons, and visitors from outer space all can fit into the god mold by virtue of their power to affect the lives of the humans in awe of them. For a god concept to emerge, there must also be a sense of helplessness on the part of the supplicant, a sense that they are powerless to affect the outcome except by offering bribes or scapegoats


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:38:10 AM
  Ok, this is the last one. No more answers from the grey!

The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 answers the question during a channeling session of why and how the Universe began. Is it boundless? Is it eternal? What was there before the Big Bang when even time didn't exist? Here is it's reply:

  "Because Humans had a beggining, and were in part manufactured, they assume the Universe also had a beggining and that it was manufactured. And because every effect has a cause, they assume that something or someone must have manufactured it. But reality contains everything and is contained by nothing. Therefore, the very process that created the Universe, if there ever was one, is contained in reality itself. This means that reality has always existed in some way. Always pressuposes the existence of time, and time is a function of matter, where the interactions between it's properties must follow the pattern of effects following causes, and this oderly perception of physical interactions is what time is. But time has always existed as a potential. Imagine there is no matter, hence no time, but the set of potentials that gave birth to the Universe represent something, namely, conceptual, intelligent determinations. These conceptual determinations could be seen as proto-causes, although not true causes, and since the effects that follow causes are perceived as the passage of time, and since the first cause could be seen as an effect of the conceptual determination that made them come into being, then time existed as a potential before the physical Universe - not exatly the same as reality itself - came into being. What Humans call the Big Bang was not the beggining of the Universe, but merely the expansion of part of the Universe according to a certain set of physical constants. We have already explained how physical laws work with the concept of balance. How for the force of attraction there is the force of repulsion, and so forth. The Big Bang was nothing more than the repulsion force in overload, that acted to counter the excess of attraction that crowded enormous amounts of matter into a tiny space, and it affected only a small part of the Universe as a whole. The crunch rearranges matter according to new physical laws that will act when matter is expanded, and these laws are tweeked in every crunch as matter tries to find a perfect balance where crunches will no longer be necessary. This explanation is limited and imprecise, but it is the best that Humans could understand with their intelligence and scientific knowledge.

  The vast Universe, which so intrigues man, has mysteries seemingly out of the reach of man. How big is it? Does it have boundaries? Does it go forever, or is it circular? Is it all an illusion? Is it homogeneous throughout? So many questions. Does the Universe have physical boundaries? We do not know, nor are we allowed to know in the density we are in, 4th Density. To us, with our instruments and in our travels, it appears to be boundless. We travel only so much, using home as a base, and limit our travels not because of distance but due to what is known about certain parts of the Universe, which would be poisonous to us. We too use probes, set to take their measures and return. This is the manner by which your Solar System was located, not by us, but by others. If the probe returns with data that indicates an environment that would be poisonous or quickly fatal, we do not, understandably, explore that part of the Universe. Travel by pure thought, which more advanced civilization in 5th density use, does not have these setbacks.

Different sections of the Universe have different compositions. By this we mean the elements are found in different proportions and the resultant chemical reactions that ensue therefore have different characteristics. Some worlds have silicon based life. Some suns emit radiation that is poisonous to us and would be to you also. Those environments contain severe dangers, as silicon based microbes are ones your immune system could not begin to muster a defense against. An analogy we could use is the soil across a terrain. One place is acidic and is covered with moss, another has soil that compacts into rock-like hardness, discouraging probing roots. The variables are many, and any horticulturist will tell you that a wildflower taken from one location could not be expected to grow in another. Just so is the Universe, we have discovered, and the mix of elements that compose the soil in this section of the Universe is our and your niche. Incarnated, we are not allowed, not able, to explore outside this niche.

Beyond some simple statements, we are not at liberty to explain the Universe to humans, as we are restrained by the Rule of Non-Interference and also by our ignorance. For you, it seems that the Universe is limitless, and boundless, and is not an illusion. So be it, as for you that is a reality and in particular the reality which you must live in. It is also the reality which we, the ones you call Greys, must live in, and in truth we do not know that much more about the functioning of the Universe than you do. The Universe holds secrets that we are not allowed to know at this time, at our stage of evolution These questions must go unanswered, for the time being".


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:39:32 AM
  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains during a channeling session why Capitalism is the predominant system in Human societies.

  "The secret of Capitalism's success relies on superior maximization of utility. Humans evolved from territorial apes where superior reproductive opportunity comes to those who conquer more territory than others. To the victors, the spoils, to the vanquished, becoming the spoils of the victors. Thus, the possibility of individual aggrandizement is the most powerful motivator of Human action and thus a system that rewards one with the biggest possibility of self-aggradizement works best. Also, resources are managed more effectively by one or a few people rather than many. When trying to coordinate action of large numbers of people, information is utilized less effectively due to problems of communication. Unlike us, the ones you call Greys, who are telepathic, Humans utilize language to convey information, and language is too imprecise and too little descriptive to convey information effectively. The larger the number of people involved in a task, the less likely the task is to be done effectively due to the many problems of communication that arrise. Thus capitalism results in superior maximization of utility by better motivating people to achieve and to use resources effectively, and by superior micro-management of resources by dividing the economy into millions of managers instead of a few. In a communist country, large bureacracies manage the economy poorly because they have no motivation for self-aggrandizement besides the rare promotion in the Party and because a few bureacrats cannot possibly organize the millions of variables involved in managing an economy effectively."

  Regarding capitalism, with its arguments that the whole benefits from the avarice and greed of the few. Proponents point to the United States or other western civilizations as proof of the theory. Where in truth there are the wealthy, as there always are in every civilization, nevertheless poverty still reigns for the masses. Is your United States any different, in truth? How many citizens are starving on the streets, in increasing numbers? How many tiny school children sit with hollow eyes because their bellies are cramping in an insistent demand for the breakfast they never seem to get? How many families try to make moldy, bug ridden quarters cheerful, with not much more than a plucked dandelion or two. Children playing in the mud because this is their only toy. This is Capitalism's outcome despite it's superior effectiveness at generating material good. In point of fact, these statistics would be a thousand times worse if Capitalism were allowed to run full course. It is held in check by your laws.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On Human Dietetic Character.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:41:20 AM
  Many people have been wondering what is the ideal diet for Humans. Are Humans better of eating a zero carb diet? A Paleolithic diet? A diet of mostly fruits and vegetables? A diet containing all the four food groups? A Mediterranean diet?

  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 settles the issue once and for all. According to the alien, Humans are omnivores but of a very specific kind. We can and profit from eating everything, but not simultaneously. Failing to understand this results in bad health and other problems.

  "Humans are omnivores, as during their evolution they required the ability to eat a broad diet in order to survive. Carnivores develop in species that are swift and voracious, but only where a continuous and ample supply of prey exist. Imagine a tiger with nothing but grass to eat. The tiger may be willing to eat almost anything when the hunger pangs get strong enough, but his digestive system won’t process anything but meat. Carnivores die when their prey dies out. Species that are vegetarians also have specialized digestive tracts, designed to break down the tough fiber that is intrinsic to plant life. They have multiple stomachs in many cases, digesting in stages. All species that eat plants consume insects as a matter of course, as insects are scattered throughout the plants they munch on, and thus are always part of the intake.

Thus, species that evolve are either carnivores, vegetarian, or omnivores. The omnivore, of which mankind is a member, evolve to meet wildly swinging cycles of food availability. Early humans, being land animals and highly mobile, could travel during drought to areas lush with vegetation. Strictly vegetarian animals do this likewise, but as their digestive tracts digest fiber effectively, they can nibble on dried vegetation on the way. Humans, evolved from apes which were adjusted to eating fruits and insects as well as vegetation, do not have the apparatus to digest fiber. Thus, while on the road during droughts, they would have starved unless able to kill and eat meat. They have dual digestive systems, in effect.

Humans are designed, due to the influence of food availability during evolution, to eat either vegetables and fruits or meat, but not both at the same time. This is a fact not widely recognized or understood by humans, and thus they do themselves damage by eating both foods at meals, routinely. Imagine the cave man on the road, traveling to lush fields of vegetation where fruits and grains and tubers could be located with ease. The troop kills a deer or elephant, and feasts on nothing but meat and blood for days, consuming the entire kill before it can spoil. They do this repeatedly while on the road. When they arrive at their destination, they find they no longer need to take the physical risks that hunting invariably presents - flailing hooves and charging frightened beasts. They become vegetarians

  Modern man misunderstands what the cave man ate while lolling about during their vegetarian periods. They did not live strictly on vegetables and fruits and grains. They ate any and everything that was handy, and this included numerous insects and slow moving life forms such as mollusks and possums. They ate less meat, but the diet was highly varied and included occasional small bites from sources other than plants. Thus, those modern humans who try to live what they interpret to be a strictly vegetarian life suffer from malnutrition - poor immunity, anemia, lack of strength, and inability to deal with stress. Man was not designed to live by vegetables alone, and must accommodate their body with protein sources from living creatures other than plants, or suffer the consequences.

  Human nutrition, and alternative medicines such as herbs, is well enough understood by mankind that we can not provide any new insights. In general, eating a balanced diet and eating food raw where it does not carry disease provides the best nutrition. Small meals, eaten frequently, allows for better digestion. The starving body is more efficient at digestion than the overfed, which tends to dispense with a big meal as something to be rid of rather than processed. Humans who have been dictated to by their schools, medical profession, and salesmen for the food industry, have often turned off their natural sensors as to what to eat and how to treat their bodies. Small children, left to pick and chose what to eat from an array of healthy foods, will invariably select a balanced diet over a period of days, and will chose those foods that help their particular metabolism or biology, even without having a medical degree or being directed to do so. If cold weather is approaching, foods that will put on a layer of fat are selected. In hot weather, a lighter diet of salads and fruits is more appealing. These natural signals, which go beyond diet and into health in general, should be listened to. Go back to being a child, in listening to your body, which knows itself well."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On The Origins Of Life.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:43:15 AM
  Everyone knows the process of natural selection, where random mutations either surrive or are eliminated by competing to see which can adapt best for survival in the natural environment. But the origin of life eludes our scientists. No one knows how it all started. What caused inanimate matter to become living matter?

  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains this to us, but points out that creating life is vastly beyond our current scientific capabilities:

  "Humans assume life to be something vastly different from ordinary matter that is not alive, but this is only due to Humans not being able to see the forest because their brains are only able to perceive the trees. Life is matter utilizing energy, like the heat generated by the fusion of atoms from the Sun making water transform from the liquid to gaseous state, or like the elements inside a star utilizing the weight of it's own gravity to produce heavier and heavier elements. Putting it more forward, matter and energy are also the same unlike what the one called Einstein believed, and energy is nothing more than matter that can move it's position in the field, whilst matter can only move if operated on the energy. Space is merely a field of operation. Life follows the same principle, except that it occurs much faster and with greater complexity than the transformations of elements into different physical states or atoms into heavier atoms."

  How does matter that appears to be nonliving come to life? The process is as follows: elements that form at the core of stars bombard a planet that is suited for life by not being too close to a star that temperatures are too high or too far that is is cold. These elements are amine derived compounds that form under extreme pressures. The amine-related substances then fall into highly acidic mediums. Under the heat of the Sun, water and Oxygen polysaccharides are formed. What is special and that Humans haven't grasped yet, is the special property of a certain nucleic acid that forms by the amine compounds in highly acidic mediums to store memory by a process similar to what crystals store the memory of sound waves that pass through them. Then, an extraodinary event forms. A gigantic burst of a special type of radiation produced by neutron stars happen to bombard the nucleic acid. This radiation is extremely posionous and deleterious to the nucleic acid. It stores the information that the nucleic acid will be destroyed. Thus, the nucleic acid utilizes the available energy of the polysaccharides that surround it to create a copy of itself so that it will continue to exist. It then realizes that more challenges are met and that further adaptations will be required. It then changes itself into DNA so that it can store more complex information and starts to utilize the polysaccharides as fuel and to utilize the amines and acids that surround it to create the building blocks for the body that will enable it to survive. The process of replication starts. Life is born. On your planet, this happened 4.5 billions of your Earth years ago, as a gigantic Supernova on Canis Minora exploded and then collpased into a neutron star, emitting a gigantic burst of radiation that bombarded your planet for nine million years.

  Humans cannot and will not create life in a laboratory. The type of nucleic acid that stores information is a very specific one and there are literally billions that can be made. Humans will never discover which one it is. But even if a Human scientist did, it would be for nothing. It takes millions of years of bombardment from a neutron star to make the nucleic acid to start replicating. Causing this to hapen in a few minutes would require dozens of neutron stars in close proximity and this is vastly beyond the capabilities of Humans. We are vastly more advanced than you, and we cannot create life even though we know how to. More advanced beings than we are, who have evolved for billions of your Earth years, can create life directly. They have evolved beyond matter, time and also energy and exist as pure thought, and they can create life by directly infusing themselves on several levels of consciousness into inanimate matter. They are god-like entities. But creating life through technology is vastly beyond even our capabilities, let alone that of primitive Humans. Creating life is the ultimate technological accomplishment and it is only for gods."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:44:02 AM
SHIT fckn BALLS


his flux capcitator prob broke and he was stuck in 1955 - fckn a

he prob needed the 1.21 jigawatts in order to generate enough energy to get back to the yr 3000 to his dad whos a pussy and gets housed by biff everyday of his worthless fatpanda phone station manager life
(http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content09/flux-capacitor.jpg)

  Lololol

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 08:44:53 AM
  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains during a channeling session why Capitalism is the predominant system in Human societies.

  "The secret of Capitalism's success relies on superior maximization of utility. Humans evolved from territorial apes where superior reproductive opportunity comes to those who conquer more territory than others. To the victors, the spoils, to the vanquished, becoming the spoils of the victors. Thus, the possibility of individual aggrandizement is the most powerful motivator of Human action and thus a system that rewards one with the biggest possibility of self-aggradizement works best. Also, resources are managed more effectively by one or a few people rather than many. When trying to coordinate action of large numbers of people, information is utilized less effectively due to problems of communication. Unlike us, the ones you call Greys, who are telepathic, Humans utilize language to convey information, and language is too imprecise and too little descriptive to convey information effectively. The larger the number of people involved in a task, the less likely the task is to be done effectively due to the many problems of communication that arrise. Thus capitalism results in superior maximization of utility by better motivating people to achieve and to use resources effectively, and by superior micro-management of resources by dividing the economy into millions of managers instead of a few. In a communist country, large bureacracies manage the economy poorly because they have no motivation for self-aggrandizement besides the rare promotion in the Party and because a few bureacrats cannot possibly organize the millions of variables involved in managing an economy effectively."

  Regarding capitalism, with its arguments that the whole benefits from the avarice and greed of the few. Proponents point to the United States or other western civilizations as proof of the theory. Where in truth there are the wealthy, as there always are in every civilization, nevertheless poverty still reigns for the masses. Is your United States any different, in truth? How many citizens are starving on the streets, in increasing numbers? How many tiny school children sit with hollow eyes because their bellies are cramping in an insistent demand for the breakfast they never seem to get? How many families try to make moldy, bug ridden quarters cheerful, with not much more than a plucked dandelion or two. Children playing in the mud because this is their only toy. This is Capitalism's outcome despite it's superior effectiveness at generating material good. In point of fact, these statistics would be a thousand times worse if Capitalism were allowed to run full course. It is held in check by your laws.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I repeat......this dude's a tool, hahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 08:45:55 AM
What's his take on this weekends Superbowl?
Title: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:58:09 AM
  Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has confused Humans for millenia, and many assume it as a joke since neither can  be said to come before the other, right? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 finally solves it for us, bringing truth to the  confusion:

  "Humans believe this charade to be clever and that there is no answer. In reality, there truly is. Of course the egg came first, since reproductive cells, of which eggs are included, developed much before reptiles sprung wings and became birds."

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: 225for70 on February 01, 2011, 08:59:54 AM
I was told by someone that Johnny Failcon is Suckmymuscle's gimmick account.

7 threads on the main page about grey aliens... :-\
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Johnny_Blaze on February 01, 2011, 09:01:55 AM
Which came first? lol. How about you tell me when all of this will end?  ;D
Title: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
Ron......speak on this clown.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:08:12 AM
I was told by someone that Johnny Failcon is Suckmymuscle's gimmick account.

7 threads on the main page about grey aliens... :-\

  Please no! Don't compare me to Johnny Failcon.

  This is truly an alien entity giving the answers. I am in telepathic communication with it. Do you really think I could write this shit ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
Quiting whining, and don't post in the fucking threads very simple.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 09:09:27 AM
Quiting whining, and don't post in the fucking threads very simple.

Do you drunk post morning noon and night?
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:11:43 AM
Do you drunk post morning noon and night?
Why would that make me a commi or something.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 09:20:32 AM
Why would that make me a commi or something.

hail mother rrussia


best dbol ever
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: NeoSeminole on February 01, 2011, 09:20:53 AM
leave Suckmymuscle alone! >:(
Title: Grey Alien On Interstellar Travel.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:23:10 AM
  An alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains how it is possible to travel faster than the speed of light without breaking the laws of physics in a way that the limited intelligence of Humans can understand. This was revealed during a channeling session:

  "Most certainly we have interstellar ships, else how would we, as organic beings, arrive? The means of travel is not what humans assume, propulsion. Humans use propulsion, as in sailing vessels propelled by the wind in the sails, or as in planes propelled by air sliced and pressed backwards over specially shaped and rapidly rotating propellers and then over specially shaped wings designed to give the plane lift, or as in jet planes propelled skyward by the continuous explosion occurring in the jet engines, or most recently by the virtual firecrackers that propel the astronauts into space, holding their breath all the way, brave souls that they are. As humans can only move by a snails pace unless they are propelled, they assume that interstellar travel is by propulsion. It is not, it is by attraction, and a quick kiss it is.

We have explained how we move from one density to another, by making a reservation in the density we wish to move to, and then simply making the move. Likewise, when making long distance travel, we make a similar reservation, and then simply move. How does this work, in a manner that the limited intelligence of humankind can grasp? We have spoken of the mutual attraction and repulsion of matter, which is, of course, what causes the planets and moons to go into orbit around each other and their suns. Normally this goes into balance, not by accident but by a series of maneuvers until the attraction and repulsion are equally strong, one not affecting the regularity of motion more than the other. Balance is assumed when the motion takes on a regularity. Imagine what would happen if the repulsion were eliminated, in a given interchange, and the attraction had no counterbalance? How fast is fast?

Should we be asked to explain, in formulas that humans could potentially understand, how repulsion could be eliminated so that attraction is the only force in effect - we cannot. This is not to evade scrutiny, but to prevent humans from getting about in the Universe in their present ethically and intellectually immature state. In 4th Density there are rules in force that allow you to have this knowledge, and use it, while abiding by the rules. In 3rd Density you are allowed to mess around without rules, guided only by your free will. This is why entities of higher densities cannot interfere with you, unless you give The Call. Your world is essentially a play pen. Children are not allowed into the computer room, nor into the Air Traffic Control tower. We trust you will understand, though we expect you will be resentful."

DISCLAIMER: I do not believe in aliens. I found this on the web which is apparently the response of a Grey alien when asked how they can travel faster than the speed of light by travelling thousands of light-years almost in an instant. I found the reply interesting and decided to post it here.


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:24:26 AM
Ron......speak on this clown.

  Why can GH15 start multiple threads on a single topic(steroids), but I can't start multiple threads on different topics? Doesen't seem fair.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On God.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:26:19 AM
  Do aliens believe in God? Does God exist? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 was asked this question during a channeling session and this was what it had to say:

  "Humans quite naturally tend to think of their relationship to a god in child-to-parent terms, an outgrowth not only from their impressionable early years but also from their general sense of hopelessness in being able to control their environment. They remain, to a certain extent, a child always, the child within masked by the face of adulthood but inwardly looking to a parent to rescue them or guide them. The concept of a god as something larger and more powerful than the self, who makes things happen, begins in the helpless babe who finds himself cared for whether he asks for it or not, but mostly when he fusses. The concept of prayer is born - I ask and most of the time I receive. Molding the infant's behavior to meet the expectations of the family or social group begins early, with a sharp verbal or physical reprimand when the babe exhibits the wrong behavior. The concept of a punishing god is born.

A careful analysis of the organized religions in human society reveals the child's view toward a parent in almost every aspect. Parents expect the child to contribute to the upkeep around the home by doing chores or handing over their earnings to the parents, and organized religions expect no less from their members. Unquestioning obedience is another parental expectation, most often necessary as during a crisis there is no time to explain to the child why they must follow orders without hesitation. A child putting himself or others in danger must first follow orders and can only ask for an explanation later, if at all. Organized religions take great advantage of this early training, parsing out rules and commandments supposedly coming from a god who cannot be questioned. Rewards for good behavior in most human societies are simply the absence of punishment or privation - do well and you can continue to sleep under the parental roof and sit at the dinner table. Likewise, organized religions phrase the eventual rewards as a right to belong as well as avoidance of various punishments.

Conscious, intelligent life throughout the Universe develops the god concept in very similar ways. Any force outside of the control of the self, able to give life by providing sustenance or inclusion in the group or take away life through privation or expulsion or punishment is seen as a god. In human societies attempts to bribe or placate the god naturally follow along the lines of what worked with the parents. If parental rage dissipates when gifts are offered then the god is likewise offered gifts. If the parents are looking to punish a wrong-doer and the children assign one of their number to take this punishment as a scapegoat then likewise the god may be offered sacrificial scapegoats. Kings, wealthy patrons, and visitors from outer space all can fit into the god mold by virtue of their power to affect the lives of the humans in awe of them. For a god concept to emerge, there must also be a sense of helplessness on the part of the supplicant, a sense that they are powerless to affect the outcome except by offering bribes or scapegoats."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
  Ok, this is the last one. No more answers from the grey!

The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 answers the question during a channeling session of why and how the Universe began. Is it boundless? Is it eternal? What was there before the Big Bang when even time didn't exist? Here is it's reply:

  "Because Humans had a beggining, and were in part manufactured, they assume the Universe also had a beggining and that it was manufactured. And because every effect has a cause, they assume that something or someone must have manufactured it. But reality contains everything and is contained by nothing. Therefore, the very process that created the Universe, if there ever was one, is contained in reality itself. This means that reality has always existed in some way. Always pressuposes the existence of time, and time is a function of matter, where the interactions between it's properties must follow the pattern of effects following causes, and this oderly perception of physical interactions is what time is. But time has always existed as a potential. Imagine there is no matter, hence no time, but the set of potentials that gave birth to the Universe represent something, namely, conceptual, intelligent determinations. These conceptual determinations could be seen as proto-causes, although not true causes, and since the effects that follow causes are perceived as the passage of time, and since the first cause could be seen as an effect of the conceptual determination that made them come into being, then time existed as a potential before the physical Universe - not exatly the same as reality itself - came into being. What Humans call the Big Bang was not the beggining of the Universe, but merely the expansion of part of the Universe according to a certain set of physical constants. We have already explained how physical laws work with the concept of balance. How for the force of attraction there is the force of repulsion, and so forth. The Big Bang was nothing more than the repulsion force in overload, that acted to counter the excess of attraction that crowded enormous amounts of matter into a tiny space, and it affected only a small part of the Universe as a whole. The crunch rearranges matter according to new physical laws that will act when matter is expanded, and these laws are tweeked in every crunch as matter tries to find a perfect balance where crunches will no longer be necessary. This explanation is limited and imprecise, but it is the best that Humans could understand with their intelligence and scientific knowledge.

  The vast Universe, which so intrigues man, has mysteries seemingly out of the reach of man. How big is it? Does it have boundaries? Does it go forever, or is it circular? Is it all an illusion? Is it homogeneous throughout? So many questions. Does the Universe have physical boundaries? We do not know, nor are we allowed to know in the density we are in, 4th Density. To us, with our instruments and in our travels, it appears to be boundless. We travel only so much, using home as a base, and limit our travels not because of distance but due to what is known about certain parts of the Universe, which would be poisonous to us. We too use probes, set to take their measures and return. This is the manner by which your Solar System was located, not by us, but by others. If the probe returns with data that indicates an environment that would be poisonous or quickly fatal, we do not, understandably, explore that part of the Universe. Travel by pure thought, which more advanced civilization in 5th density use, does not have these setbacks.

Different sections of the Universe have different compositions. By this we mean the elements are found in different proportions and the resultant chemical reactions that ensue therefore have different characteristics. Some worlds have silicon based life. Some suns emit radiation that is poisonous to us and would be to you also. Those environments contain severe dangers, as silicon based microbes are ones your immune system could not begin to muster a defense against. An analogy we could use is the soil across a terrain. One place is acidic and is covered with moss, another has soil that compacts into rock-like hardness, discouraging probing roots. The variables are many, and any horticulturist will tell you that a wildflower taken from one location could not be expected to grow in another. Just so is the Universe, we have discovered, and the mix of elements that compose the soil in this section of the Universe is our and your niche. Incarnated, we are not allowed, not able, to explore outside this niche.

Beyond some simple statements, we are not at liberty to explain the Universe to humans, as we are restrained by the Rule of Non-Interference and also by our ignorance. For you, it seems that the Universe is limitless, and boundless, and is not an illusion. So be it, as for you that is a reality and in particular the reality which you must live in. It is also the reality which we, the ones you call Greys, must live in, and in truth we do not know that much more about the functioning of the Universe than you do. The Universe holds secrets that we are not allowed to know at this time, at our stage of evolution These questions must go unanswered, for the time being".


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On Capitalism.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:29:36 AM
  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 explains during a channeling session why Capitalism is the predominant system in Human societies.

  "The secret of Capitalism's success relies on superior maximization of utility. Humans evolved from territorial apes where superior reproductive opportunity comes to those who conquer more territory than others. To the victors, the spoils, to the vanquished, becoming the spoils of the victors. Thus, the possibility of individual aggrandizement is the most powerful motivator of Human action and thus a system that rewards one with the biggest possibility of self-aggradizement works best. Also, resources are managed more effectively by one or a few people rather than many. When trying to coordinate action of large numbers of people, information is utilized less effectively due to problems of communication. Unlike us, the ones you call Greys, who are telepathic, Humans utilize language to convey information, and language is too imprecise and too little descriptive to convey information effectively. The larger the number of people involved in a task, the less likely the task is to be done effectively due to the many problems of communication that arrise. Thus capitalism results in superior maximization of utility by better motivating people to achieve and to use resources effectively, and by superior micro-management of resources by dividing the economy into millions of managers instead of a few. In a communist country, large bureacracies manage the economy poorly because they have no motivation for self-aggrandizement besides the rare promotion in the Party and because a few bureacrats cannot possibly organize the millions of variables involved in managing an economy effectively."

  Regarding capitalism, with its arguments that the whole benefits from the avarice and greed of the few. Proponents point to the United States or other western civilizations as proof of the theory. Where in truth there are the wealthy, as there always are in every civilization, nevertheless poverty still reigns for the masses. Is your United States any different, in truth? How many citizens are starving on the streets, in increasing numbers? How many tiny school children sit with hollow eyes because their bellies are cramping in an insistent demand for the breakfast they never seem to get? How many families try to make moldy, bug ridden quarters cheerful, with not much more than a plucked dandelion or two. Children playing in the mud because this is their only toy. This is Capitalism's outcome despite it's superior effectiveness at generating material good. In point of fact, these statistics would be a thousand times worse if Capitalism were allowed to run full course. It is held in check by your laws."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 09:31:03 AM
  Why can GH15 start multiple threads on a single topic(steroids), but I can't start multiple threads on different topics? Doesen't seem fair.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 Because at least his is training/bodybuilding related. I'll admit once in a great while I'll start something political but not thread after thread day after day. At the very least take it to another board. Maybe the general board.
Title: Grey Alien On Human Dietetic Character.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:32:52 AM
  Many people have been wondering what is the ideal diet for Humans. Are Humans better of eating a zero carb diet? A Paleolithic diet? A diet of mostly fruits and vegetables? A diet containing all the four food groups? A Mediterranean diet?

  The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 settles the issue once and for all. According to the alien, Humans are omnivores but of a very specific kind. We can and profit from eating everything, but not simultaneously. Failing to understand this results in bad health and other problems.

  "Humans are omnivores, as during their evolution they required the ability to eat a broad diet in order to survive. Carnivores develop in species that are swift and voracious, but only where a continuous and ample supply of prey exist. Imagine a tiger with nothing but grass to eat. The tiger may be willing to eat almost anything when the hunger pangs get strong enough, but his digestive system won’t process anything but meat. Carnivores die when their prey dies out. Species that are vegetarians also have specialized digestive tracts, designed to break down the tough fiber that is intrinsic to plant life. They have multiple stomachs in many cases, digesting in stages. All species that eat plants consume insects as a matter of course, as insects are scattered throughout the plants they munch on, and thus are always part of the intake.

Thus, species that evolve are either carnivores, vegetarian, or omnivores. The omnivore, of which mankind is a member, evolve to meet wildly swinging cycles of food availability. Early humans, being land animals and highly mobile, could travel during drought to areas lush with vegetation. Strictly vegetarian animals do this likewise, but as their digestive tracts digest fiber effectively, they can nibble on dried vegetation on the way. Humans, evolved from apes which were adjusted to eating fruits and insects as well as vegetation, do not have the apparatus to digest fiber. Thus, while on the road during droughts, they would have starved unless able to kill and eat meat. They have dual digestive systems, in effect.

Humans are designed, due to the influence of food availability during evolution, to eat either vegetables and fruits or meat, but not both at the same time. This is a fact not widely recognized or understood by humans, and thus they do themselves damage by eating both foods at meals, routinely. Imagine the cave man on the road, traveling to lush fields of vegetation where fruits and grains and tubers could be located with ease. The troop kills a deer or elephant, and feasts on nothing but meat and blood for days, consuming the entire kill before it can spoil. They do this repeatedly while on the road. When they arrive at their destination, they find they no longer need to take the physical risks that hunting invariably presents - flailing hooves and charging frightened beasts. They become vegetarians

  Modern man misunderstands what the cave man ate while lolling about during their vegetarian periods. They did not live strictly on vegetables and fruits and grains. They ate any and everything that was handy, and this included numerous insects and slow moving life forms such as mollusks and possums. They ate less meat, but the diet was highly varied and included occasional small bites from sources other than plants. Thus, those modern humans who try to live what they interpret to be a strictly vegetarian life suffer from malnutrition - poor immunity, anemia, lack of strength, and inability to deal with stress. Man was not designed to live by vegetables alone, and must accommodate their body with protein sources from living creatures other than plants, or suffer the consequences.

  Human nutrition, and alternative medicines such as herbs, is well enough understood by mankind that we can not provide any new insights. In general, eating a balanced diet and eating food raw where it does not carry disease provides the best nutrition. Small meals, eaten frequently, allows for better digestion. The starving body is more efficient at digestion than the overfed, which tends to dispense with a big meal as something to be rid of rather than processed. Humans who have been dictated to by their schools, medical profession, and salesmen for the food industry, have often turned off their natural sensors as to what to eat and how to treat their bodies. Small children, left to pick and chose what to eat from an array of healthy foods, will invariably select a balanced diet over a period of days, and will chose those foods that help their particular metabolism or biology, even without having a medical degree or being directed to do so. If cold weather is approaching, foods that will put on a layer of fat are selected. In hot weather, a lighter diet of salads and fruits is more appealing. These natural signals, which go beyond diet and into health in general, should be listened to. Go back to being a child, in listening to your body, which knows itself well."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
Because at least his is training/bodybuilding related. I'll admit once in a great while I'll start something political but not thread after thread day after day. At the very least take it to another board. Maybe the general board.
You could still talk about lifting weights all day long, and you'd still be a shithead dago your point?
Title: Grey Alien On the Origin Of Life.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:33:59 AM
  Everyone knows the process of natural selection, where random mutations either surrive or are eliminated by competing to see which can adapt best for survival in the natural environment. But the origin of life eludes our scientists. No one knows how it all started. What caused inanimate matter to become living matter?

  The alien entity explains this to us, but points out that creating life is vastly beyond our current scientific capabilities:

  "Humans assume life to be something vastly different from ordinary matter that is not alive, but this is only due to Humans not being able to see the forest because their brains are only able to perceive the trees. Life is matter utilizing energy, like the heat generated by the fusion of atoms from the Sun making water transform from the liquid to gaseous state, or like the elements inside a star utilizing the weight of it's own gravity to produce heavier and heavier elements. Putting it more forward, matter and energy are also the same unlike what the one called Einstein believed, and energy is nothing more than matter that can move it's position in the field, whilst matter can only move if operated on the energy. Space is merely a field of operation. Life follows the same principle, except that it occurs much faster and with greater complexity than the transformations of elements into different physical states or atoms into heavier atoms."

  How does matter that appears to be nonliving come to life? The process is as follows: elements that form at the core of stars bombard a planet that is suited for life by not being too close to a star that temperatures are too high or too far that is is cold. These elements are amine derived compounds that form under extreme pressures. The amine-related substances then fall into highly acidic mediums. Under the heat of the Sun, water and Oxygen polysaccharides are formed. What is special and that Humans haven't grasped yet, is the special property of a certain nucleic acid that forms by the amine compounds in highly acidic mediums to store memory by a process similar to what crystals store the memory of sound waves that pass through them. Then, an extraodinary event forms. A gigantic burst of a special type of radiation produced by neutron stars happen to bombard the nucleic acid. This radiation is extremely posionous and deleterious to the nucleic acid. It stores the information that the nucleic acid will be destroyed. Thus, the nucleic acid utilizes the available energy of the polysaccharides that surround it to create a copy of itself so that it will continue to exist. It then realizes that more challenges are met and that further adaptations will be required. It then changes itself into DNA so that it can store more complex information and starts to utilize the polysaccharides as fuel and to utilize the amines and acids that surround it to create the building blocks for the body that will enable it to survive. The process of replication starts. Life is born. On your planet, this happened 4.5 billions of your Earth years ago, as a gigantic Supernova on Canis Minora exploded and then collpased into a neutron star, emitting a gigantic burst of radiation that bombarded your planet for nine million years.

  Humans cannot and will not create life in a laboratory. The type of nucleic acid that stores information is a very specific one and there are literally billions that can be made. Humans will never discover which one it is. But even if a Human scientist did, it would be for nothing. It takes millions of years of bombardment from a neutron star to make the nucleic acid to start replicating. Causing this to hapen in a few minutes would require dozens of neutron stars in close proximity and this is vastly beyond the capabilities of Humans. We are vastly more advanced than you, and we cannot create life even though we know how to. More advanced beings than we are, who have evolved for billions of your Earth years, can create life directly. They have evolved beyond matter, time and also energy and exist as pure thought, and they can create life by directly infusing themselves on several levels of consciousness into inanimate matter. They are god-like entities. But creating life through technology is vastly beyond even our capabilities, let alone that of primitive Humans. Creating life is the ultimate technological accomplishment and it is only for gods."


SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:35:28 AM
  Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has confused Humans for millenia, and many assume it as a joke since neither can  be said to come before the other, right? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 finally solves it for us, bringing truth to the  confusion:

  "Humans believe this charade to be clever and that there is no answer. In reality, there truly is. Of course the egg came first, since reproductive cells, of which eggs are included, developed much before reptiles sprung wings and became birds."

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 09:37:05 AM
You could still talk about lifting weights all day long, and you'd still be a shithead dago your point?

Hey, could be worse. I could be a 6'4 150lb balding 21 year old with no job living in a basement in sub-zero weather with my parents hating me...................... ..but I'm not!
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:38:16 AM
Because at least his is training/bodybuilding related. I'll admit once in a great while I'll start something political but not thread after thread day after day. At the very least take it to another board. Maybe the general board.

  No, it isn't. It is steroid related. He doesen't write anything on training. It's all drugs. And what an alien entity has to say on myriad of topics is far more interesting that what a juicehead who sells steroids has to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: w8m8 on February 01, 2011, 09:38:36 AM
  Why can GH15 start multiple threads on a single topic(steroids), but I can't start multiple threads on different topics? Doesen't seem fair.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I gotta agree with this .. there's just as many "pm question answered" posts from gh15 on the board so it's really not much difference .. same for Falcon's multiple threads .. it's not fair to single out one when those 3 are filling the main board almost every day and could just as easily use the same thread for their "thoughts" and "opinions" .. fuck it .. give them the "A" board and have it all in one place .. the damn thing is dead as it stands now
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
I gotta agree with this .. there's just as many "pm question answered" posts from gh15 on the board so it's really not much difference .. same for Falcon's multiple threads .. it's not fair to single out one when those 3 are filling the main board almost every day and could just as easily use the same thread for their "thoughts" and "opinions" .. fuck it .. give them the "A" board and have it all in one place .. the damn thing is dead as it stands now



You should be the mod!
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:40:19 AM
 No, it isn't. It is steroid related. He doesen't write anything on training. It's all drugs. And what an alien entity has to say on myriad of topics is far more interesting that what a juicehead who sells steroids has to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
X2
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:42:20 AM
Hey, could be worse. I could be a 6'4 150lb balding 21 year old with no job living in a basement in sub-zero weather with my parents hating me...................... ..but I'm not!
It gets worst I'm almost 24, 240 pounds(I got fat), however I do like the weather so you can't really attack me on that one.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Nails on February 01, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
(http://rlv.zcache.com/alien_body_builder_tshirt-p235742184276898421q6yv_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: w8m8 on February 01, 2011, 09:43:19 AM


You should be the mod!

there's a better chance that the grey alien is on steroids .. eating vegetables and drinking olive oil .. than that ever happening  lol  ;)
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: che on February 01, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Ron......speak on this clown.


 ::) ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=364755.0
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: dr.chimps on February 01, 2011, 09:45:18 AM
Because at least his is training/bodybuilding related. I'll admit once in a great while I'll start something political but not thread after thread day after day. At the very least take it to another board. Maybe the general board.
I think your nose just jumped off your face and ran screaming down the hall, Coach.  ;D
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 09:45:52 AM
  Ha ... I will never be put in time out. I am a mod and friends with Ron. The worst that could happen is it all getting deleted. But I have it all saved and could post in in the future again if Ron agrees...

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Fury on February 01, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
Did suckmymuscle ever post the answer to that riddle where he was one of three people to solve it and no MIT mathematician could? It is pretty cool having one of the three smartest people on the planet posting on this board.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
Did suckmymuscle ever post the answer to that riddle where he was one of three people to solve it and no MIT mathematician could? It is pretty cool having one of the three smartest people on the planet posting on this board.
Dude your retarded you got agression issues or something.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on February 01, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
  Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has confused Humans for millenia, and many assume it as a joke since neither can  be said to come before the other, right? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 finally solves it for us, bringing truth to the  confusion:

  "Humans believe this charade to be clever and that there is no answer. In reality, there truly is. Of course the egg came first, since reproductive cells, of which eggs are included, developed much before reptiles sprung wings and became birds."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You think you it requires an IQ of 400 to reach this conclusion?
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2011, 09:48:47 AM
there's a better chance that the grey alien is on steroids .. eating vegetables and drinking olive oil .. than that ever happening  lol  ;)



I'll speak to the big man 8)
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 09:55:44 AM

 ::) ::)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=364755.0


I said I did that once in a while. Besides, I could care less if I'm put in TO. In case you haven't noticed, I've even put myself in TO!
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Lundgren on February 01, 2011, 09:56:49 AM
I said I did that once in a while. Besides, I could care less if I'm put in TO. In case you haven't noticed, I've even put myself in TO!
Cough cough, you have many gimmicks.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: w8m8 on February 01, 2011, 09:58:46 AM
It is pretty cool having one of the three smartest people on the planet posting on this board.

One .. ? .. we have the all knowing gold pyramid builder ( that has gas problems ) who is as smart as Einstein .. and she can solve all the problems of the United States from her castle in Toronto .. and still have time for tea with movie stars
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2011, 09:59:31 AM
Dude your retarded you got agression issues or something.

"Dude"  ::)  the word "issues' should never come out of your mouth when speaking about another human being.

Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Origins Of The Universe.
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:06:38 AM
ghey alien


christ this is ridirulous

Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 01, 2011, 10:07:31 AM
Dude, I'm one of the few who don't have gimmicks. I have better things to do with my life.
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Fury on February 01, 2011, 10:09:22 AM
One .. ? .. we have the all knowing gold pyramid builder ( that has gas problems ) who is as smart as Einstein .. and she can solve all the problems of the United States from her castle in Toronto .. and still have time for tea with movie stars

Hahahahah! ;D

The quote I've had under my avatar for a while now was dedicated to her.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: 225for70 on February 01, 2011, 10:10:44 AM
Sucky please explain to me where the Alien came from and how he's able to communicate with you?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Butterbean on February 01, 2011, 10:12:01 AM
  Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has confused Humans for millenia, and many assume it as a joke since neither can  be said to come before the other, right? The alien entity with an IQ approaching 400 finally solves it for us, bringing truth to the  confusion:

  "Humans believe this charade to be clever and that there is no answer. In reality, there truly is. Of course the egg came first, since reproductive cells, of which eggs are included, developed much before reptiles sprung wings and became birds."

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Who is the "Grey Alien?"  Where did you first hear about him and where does he come from? 

Do you concur w/all that he says?

Does the Grey Alien have an explanation of the origin of matter and also of life?
 
Thanks.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: 225for70 on February 01, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
Who is the "Grey Alien?"  Where did you first hear about him and where does he come from? 

Do you concur w/all that he says?

Does the Grey Alien have an explanation of the origin of matter and also of life?
 
Thanks.

You and i can't understand cause our IQ's together don't quite equal 300..You 90 and me about about 200..
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Master Blaster on February 01, 2011, 10:16:52 AM
Who is the "Grey Alien?"  Where did you first hear about him and where does he come from? 

Do you concur w/all that he says?

Does the Grey Alien have an explanation of the origin of matter and also of life?
 
Thanks.

don't encourage him  >:(
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2011, 10:19:02 AM
Who is the "Grey Alien?"  Where did you first hear about him and where does he come from? 

Do you concur w/all that he says?

Does the Grey Alien have an explanation of the origin of matter and also of life?
 
Thanks.


Does Grey Alien know who gh15 is ???
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Butterbean on February 01, 2011, 10:19:44 AM
You and i can't understand cause our IQ's together don't quite equal 300..You 90 and me about about 200..

 ;D

don't encourage him  >:(

lol


But I've never heard of the Grey Alien before ???
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: clued-up on February 01, 2011, 10:20:02 AM
An egg cannot lay itself.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Butterbean on February 01, 2011, 10:27:04 AM
An egg cannot lay itself.


Correct.  james001 must have an IQ of 401 or above.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: Devon97 on February 01, 2011, 10:32:45 AM

Bodybuilding related


Title: Grey Alien on bear vs gorilla
Post by: Butterbean on February 01, 2011, 10:35:41 AM
What is his verdict on this important topic
Title: Grey Alien on a calorie is a calorie
Post by: CalvinH on February 01, 2011, 10:36:56 AM
What does he say about this ???
Title: Re: Grey Alien on a calorie is a calorie
Post by: Butterbean on February 01, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Grey Alien on a calorie is a calorie
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 01, 2011, 10:37:57 AM
What does he say about this ???

He says talk to the other lazy-ass mods and tell them to combine all those worthless threads.....
Title: Re: Grey Alien on a calorie is a calorie
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 01, 2011, 10:43:42 AM
gravity suit ... ask the grey about that!
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: 225for70 on February 01, 2011, 10:55:16 AM

Correct.  james001 must have an IQ of 401 or above.

I had the highest IQ in my kindergarten class.

Suckymymuscle is an idiot savant...He has such a high IQ..However,  he can solve cold fusion, and do complex calculus equations..However, he can't tie his own shoes or work a stable job, things that normal people can do
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on February 01, 2011, 11:02:32 AM
Did suckmymuscle ever post the answer to that riddle where he was one of three people to solve it and no MIT mathematician could? It is pretty cool having one of the three smartest people on the planet posting on this board.
he admitted in this thread that it was all a lie, to bad i really belived that he could solve it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=364709.msg5164917#msg5164917


  I am unable to solve it. The alien entity, conversely, can solve it as easily as a Nobelist in the sciences can solve an Algebra problem. Do you want the alien to solve it? It might give you the answer in person. Would you like if it paid you a visit?????

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: no one on February 01, 2011, 07:59:47 PM
fuck off with your 'grey alien' shit.

nobody cares.

hope this helps.
Title: Grey Alien on your mom
Post by: kiwiol on February 01, 2011, 08:00:32 PM
Just kidding - your mom's the Grey Alien
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Firemuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
 He should be banned. He keeps on spamming with that shit. I say he needs to go to timeout.
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Hulkotron on February 01, 2011, 08:03:29 PM
fuck off with your 'grey alien' shit.

nobody cares.

hope this helps.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Grey Alien On Chicken Or Egg Conundrum.
Post by: suckmymuscle on February 01, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
I had the highest IQ in my kindergarten class.

Suckymymuscle is an idiot savant...He has such a high IQ..However,  he can solve cold fusion, and do complex calculus equations..However, he can't tie his own shoes or work a stable job, things that normal people can do

  There are several misconceptions here. The first one is that you had the highest IQ in your kindergarten class. The second one is that idiot savants can solve calculus problems. They can't due to the complexity of it. The third misconception is that I am an idiot savant. Idiot savants lacks sarcasm and wit, and thus would never start a "grey alien on" thread. Finally, that people who solve calculus problems and can solve cold fusion but have poor people skills are idiot savants, but people who can hold stable jobs and talk about the Superbowl are "normal". In reality, the people who work in repetitive factory or office jobs and talk about mundane things are a lot closer to the fulfilling the definition of an idiot savant than a guy who can solve calculus problems and solve cold fusion. Lolll

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Title: Re: Grey Alien on your mom
Post by: chaos on February 01, 2011, 08:09:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Grey Alien on your mom
Post by: monstercalves on February 01, 2011, 09:01:16 PM
fs


someone tell ron that kiwi's account has been hacked........


Title: Re: Grey Alien on your mom
Post by: TacoBell on February 01, 2011, 09:05:37 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Grey Alien on your mom
Post by: no one on February 01, 2011, 09:07:16 PM

ahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Put suckmymuscle in TO for spamming non training related BULLSHIT!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 01, 2011, 09:07:23 PM
Did suckmymuscle ever post the answer to that riddle where he was one of three people to solve it and no MIT mathematician could? It is pretty cool having one of the three smartest people on the planet posting on this board.

Yes he did solve the riddle. It can be found here on your sisters website.

www.sarahjessicaparkerlo okslikeahorse.com
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: cephissus on February 01, 2011, 09:15:52 PM
Usually I like reading stuff like this but this grey alien guy writes in a really obnoxious manner.
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: disturbia on February 01, 2011, 09:50:18 PM
yeah he does need timeout actually
when falcon was spamming with his bizarro shit he got to'd
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Master Blaster on February 01, 2011, 09:52:24 PM
yeah he does need timeout actually
when falcon was spamming with his bizarro shit he got to'd

He'll come back a better guy, less obnoxious

We've all done our time, it's suckmomsmuscle's turn in the barrel

This might be the intervention "he" needs
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: johnnynoname on February 01, 2011, 09:53:31 PM
so, my roommate, who is a BJJ Legend, gets banned from here but this jabroni doesn't even get T.O'd

what is up with that?!?!??!!??



omg, i can't get to fucking sleep
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: disturbia on February 01, 2011, 09:54:53 PM
so, my roommate, who is a BJJ Legend, gets banned from here but this jabroni doesn't even get T.O'd

what is up with that?!?!??!!??



omg, i can't get to fucking sleep

theres a new woman on my facebook, you should add her
last name Mentanko==check her pics out anyways, super hot for 45 and has hot daughters too
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: johnnynoname on February 01, 2011, 09:56:37 PM
theres a new woman on my facebook, you should add her
last name Mentanko==check her pics out anyways, super hot for 45 and has hot daughters too
i'm "temporarily" off facebook (long story)

however, congrats....you have good taste in woman and i'm sure she is smoking hot

hit me with the PM (..if you want, that is)
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 09:56:53 PM
 ;)





SUCKMYASS
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: disturbia on February 01, 2011, 09:59:21 PM
i'm "temporarily" off facebook (long story)

however, congrats....you don't have good taste in woman and i'm sure she is smoking hot

hit me with the PM (..if you want, that is)

 ???
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: johnnynoname on February 01, 2011, 10:01:51 PM
???

fixed


that sentence didn't make sense if you read it initially. I obviously wanted to say that you DO have good taste in women cuz i've never seen a ugly one on your FB


btw, that wasn't a freudian slip....I'm just operating on very little sleep and I don' t think I'll be getting any tonght
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Spike on February 01, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
merge merge merge threads
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: TacoBell on February 01, 2011, 10:03:48 PM
i'm "temporarily" off facebook (long story)

(..if you want, that is)

elaborate, this must be interesting.
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 01, 2011, 10:05:32 PM
theres a new woman on my facebook, you should add her
last name Mentanko==check her pics out anyways, super hot for 45 and has hot daughters too

She looks like a stripper.  Is she?
Title: Re: Grey Alien On The Impossibility Of Artificial Intelligence.
Post by: Master Blaster on February 01, 2011, 10:07:21 PM
merge merge merge threads

busy hands...
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: johnnynoname on February 01, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
elaborate, this must be interesting.

there are certain people on my facebook that I want to delete but if I do then it will cause a huge meltdown from them.

So, instead of deleting them and going to "war"- I just decided to, temporarily, delete myself.

Then, after a couple of months, I will comeback and THEN delete them.  See, they won't notice their deletion when I comeback cuz they won't know that I came back
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: TacoBell on February 01, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
there are certain people on my facebook that I want to delete but if I do then it will cause a huge meltdown from them.

So, instead of deleting them and going to "war"- I just decided to, temporarily, delete myself.

Then, after a couple of months, I will comeback and THEN delete them.  See, they won't notice their deletion when I comeback cuz they won't know that I came back

That makes sense.  Do you have a 'fan' page lol?
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: Master Blaster on February 01, 2011, 10:12:56 PM
there are certain people on my facebook that I want to delete but if I do then it will cause a huge meltdown from them.

So, instead of deleting them and going to "war"- I just decided to, temporarily, delete myself.

Then, after a couple of months, I will comeback and THEN delete them.  See, they won't notice their deletion when I comeback cuz they won't know that I came back

*like*

(http://www.thinkmacro.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/facebook_like_button.png)
Title: Re: attn: 'suckmymuscle'
Post by: cephissus on February 01, 2011, 11:30:09 PM
there are certain people on my facebook that I want to delete but if I do then it will cause a huge meltdown from them.

So, instead of deleting them and going to "war"- I just decided to, temporarily, delete myself.

Then, after a couple of months, I will comeback and THEN delete them.  See, they won't notice their deletion when I comeback cuz they won't know that I came back


hahaha brilliant!