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Government Sues Trucking Company for Taking Keys Away From Alcoholic Driver
Fox News ^ | 9/2/11 | Stephen Clark
Posted on September 3, 2011 11:43:33 AM EDT by Impala64ssa
Citing a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Obama administration is suing a trucking company for taking the keys away from an Arkansas driver and eventually firing him after he admitted he was battling alcohol abuse.
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a lawsuit this week arguing that Old Dominion Freight Line discriminated against Charles Grams by stripping him of his position and offering him a demotion even if he completed a substance abuse counseling program.
Instead, the EEOC argued, the North Carolina-based company, which has a service center in Arkansas, should have complied with the law, known as the ADA, while ensuring safety.
“The ADA mandates that persons with disabilities have an equal opportunity to achieve in the workplace,” said Katharine Kores, director of the EEOCs Memphis District Office, which covers Arkansas. “While the EEOC agrees that an employer’s concern regarding safety on our highways is a legitimate issue, an employer can both ensure safety and comply with the ADA.”
The EEOC says alcoholism is a recognized disability under the ADA and that the company violated the law with its policy that bans any driver who admits alcohol abuse from driving again.
The EEOC wants the company to reinstate Grams and another affected driver to their previous positions and provide them with back pay, compensatory and punitive damages and compensation for lost benefits. The EEOC is also seeking to block the company’s alcohol-related policy.
The company's policy bans any driver who self-reports alcohol abuse from driving again. Reassignment to a non-driving position is contingent upon the driver enrolling in a treatment program.
Joel McCarty, general counsel to Old Dominion, wouldn’t comment on the details of the pending litigation. But he told FoxNews.com, “We intend to vigorously defend our position.” snip “Our concern is safety,” he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone?
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Here is the link.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/02/government-sues-trucking-company-for-taking-keys-away-from-alcoholic-driver
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I wonder if uncle Omar qualifies as having a disability now and will qualify for citizenship?
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When does alcoholism qualify as a disability?
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When does alcoholism qualify as a disability?
When obama is potus and up is down and down is up.
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And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone?
yeah, like this one incident is one of the reason why companies are hiring
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yeah, like this one incident is one of the reason why companies are hiring
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It's this, Gibson, Boeing, it's obamacare, it's the wild spending, it's the anti business rhetoric, it's the neo-marxists in the WH, it's the failed economic policies, and in and on.
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It's this, Gibson, Boeing, it's obamacare, it's the wild spending, it's the anti business rhetoric, it's the neo-marxists in the WH, it's the failed economic policies, and in and on.
it's lack of demand
that's it
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it's lack of demand
that's it
Yeah, why is that?
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Yeah, why is that?
why is there lack of demand?
is that what you're asking me?
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why is there lack of demand?
is that what you're asking me?
Yeah - why is there lack of demand. Tell me genius why people refuse to spend, invest, etc.
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Yeah - why is there lack of demand. Tell me genius why people refuse to spend, invest, etc.
well there are about 8 million people who have lost their jobs and so they don't have any extra money to spend
there are a lot of companies sitting on tons of cash but without more people to buy their goods and services they have no reason to higher more employees
we're talking about the current state of the economy in general
there are always innovative businesses that are growing and will higher people as needed
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krugmans space invasion is looking better by the day.
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wait so he was or wasn't driving drunk? The title calls him a drunk driver but I don't see where he was drinking and driving? all trucking companies can fire you for dui. If the guy likes to chug down beers on his days off, that doesn't make him a "drunk driver"
I mean shit, we let a man who admitted he was an alcoholic become president lol...
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krugmans space invasion is looking better by the day.
assuming you understand/agree the problem is lack of demand
feel free to offer you own explanation for the cause of the problem
shit, if we get that far we can even talk about solutions
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wait so he was or wasn't driving drunk? The title calls him a drunk driver but I don't see where he was drinking and driving? all trucking companies can fire you for dui. If the guy likes to chug down beers on his days off, that doesn't make him a "drunk driver"
Don't know - but guess what? Once the company knows this guy is a drunk, if they allow him to drive again and this guy causes an accident while drunk, they are F U C K E D. It's a liability issue.
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Don't know - but guess what? Once the company knows this guy is a drunk, if they allow him to drive again and this guy causes an accident while drunk, they are F U C K E D. It's a liability issue.
your title is still misleading. It's lacking the complete facts. For all we know from this story he could have filled out a form that asked if he drank more than 3 beers a week and he checked yes and the company calls that alcohol abuse. The details would be nice. The title to the thread is already a lie.
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your title is still misleading. It's lacking the complete facts. For all we know from this story he could have filled out a form that asked if he drank more than 3 beers a week and he checked yes and the company calls that alcohol abuse. The details would be nice. The title to the thread is already a lie.
take it up w fox news.
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take it up w fox news.
you posted it, you take it up with them lol...
It does sound bad but I'll wait till the case is actually discussed so we know the details. If someone is drinking on their days off, who gives a shit.
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you posted it, you take it up with them lol...
Let's say the guy did fill out a form and admitted to being drunk or an alchi. That's discoverable material in a lawsuit in the event of a suit.
Company had to fire this guy.
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Let's say the guy did fill out a form and admitted to being drunk or an alchi. That's discoverable material in a lawsuit in the event of a suit.
Company had to fire this guy.
All I'm saying is that I don't know what he admitted. Company policy could be that anything over 3 beers a week is alcohol abuse and he checked a box because he has 4 beers a week. None of the important facts are there. Since the title is a lie, I would like to hear the case when it's made before saying this is stupid. There's no evidense that he ever was under the influence behind the wheel provided yet fox labed him a drunk driver. What else did they leave out? I'll wait and see before I call stupid, especially knowing fox news.
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All I'm saying is that I don't know what he admitted. Company policy could be that anything over 3 beers a week is alcohol abuse and he checked a box because he has 4 beers a week. None of the important facts are there. Since the title is a lie, I would like to hear the case when it's made before saying this is stupid. There's no evidense that he ever was under the influence behind the wheel provided yet fox labed him a drunk driver. What else did they leave out? I'll wait and see before I call stupid, especially knowing fox news.
I'll look tomorrow if I can find more on this.
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I'll look tomorrow if I can find more on this.
I looked. They said they're not discussing the case so it'll have to come out later. I mean serious, what if he just said something at work like, "everytime I go to my mother in laws house for christmas, I have to drink just to get through the missery" On face value this does sound stupid for them to be suing on this.
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And you doucebags wonder why companies refuse to hire anyone?
How can companies exist if they refuse to hire anyone...
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When obama is potus and up is down and down is up.
would have been no different with any other president in the house... EEOC does it's thing regardless.
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Government Sues Trucking Company for Taking Keys Away From Alcoholic Driver
Fox News ^ | 9/2/11 | Stephen Clark
Posted on September 3, 2011 11:43:33 AM EDT by Impala64ssa
Citing a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Obama administration is suing a trucking company for taking the keys away from an Arkansas driver and eventually firing him after he admitted he was battling alcohol abuse.
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a lawsuit this week arguing that Old Dominion Freight Line discriminated against Charles Grams by stripping him of his position and offering him a demotion even if he completed a substance abuse counseling program.
Instead, the EEOC argued, the North Carolina-based company, which has a service center in Arkansas, should have complied with the law, known as the ADA, while ensuring safety.
“The ADA mandates that persons with disabilities have an equal opportunity to achieve in the workplace,” said Katharine Kores, director of the EEOCs Memphis District Office, which covers Arkansas. “While the EEOC agrees that an employer’s concern regarding safety on our highways is a legitimate issue, an employer can both ensure safety and comply with the ADA.”
The EEOC says alcoholism is a recognized disability under the ADA and that the company violated the law with its policy that bans any driver who admits alcohol abuse from driving again.
The EEOC wants the company to reinstate Grams and another affected driver to their previous positions and provide them with back pay, compensatory and punitive damages and compensation for lost benefits. The EEOC is also seeking to block the company’s alcohol-related policy.
The company's policy bans any driver who self-reports alcohol abuse from driving again. Reassignment to a non-driving position is contingent upon the driver enrolling in a treatment program.
Joel McCarty, general counsel to Old Dominion, wouldn’t comment on the details of the pending litigation. But he told FoxNews.com, “We intend to vigorously defend our position.” snip “Our concern is safety,” he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
This article just goes to prove how outlandish FOX news is. This isn't an Obama Administration issue, it is a legal one. Neither President Obama nor the current administration wrote the discrimination laws which the EEOC is bound to enforce. Chances are this fellow contacted the EEOC on his own. If the law appears to have been violated, the EEOC is bound to act on the complainants behalf.
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This article just goes to prove how outlandish FOX news is. This isn't an Obama Administration issue, it is a legal one. Neither President Obama nor the current administration wrote the discrimination laws which the EEOC is bound to enforce. Chances are this fellow contacted the EEOC on his own. If the law appears to have been violated, the EEOC is bound to act on the complainants behalf.
Common sense will just get you ostracized here
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Common sense will just get you ostracized here
Really? So when this drunk gets his job back and kills someone - and the family of the dead person sues the trucking company for knowingly allowing a drunk on the road, guess what happens?
Yeah - in obama's america - "fairness" dictates that we endanger other motorists because this guy cant control himself for the needs of the job.
What next - suing a plane company who fires a pilot who contracts a dehibilitating eye disease and cant see? Well, knowing obama admn, probably would happen.
And now alcoholism is a disease under the ADA? WTF? Should be let known drunks operate cranes, trains, and ships?
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fox news "We distort. You comply :D :D :D
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i can't find where fox says Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. can you post the link
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i can't find where fox says Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. can you post the link
First article fool.
Also - the EEOC is part of the Exec Branch under the Obama Admn.
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underline where it says he was a drunk driver ::)
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underline where it says he was a drunk driver ::)
Arnt Alcoholics also Drunks?
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show me where it says he drives drunk
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show me where it says he drives drunk
He was a driver who says he is an alcoholic. Hence - he is a drunk driver.
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He was a driver who says he is an alcoholic. Hence - he is a drunk driver.
hahahahaha your joking right so anybody who is an alcoholic and has a license is a drunk driver
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hahahahaha your joking right so anybody who is an alcoholic and has a license is a drunk driver
Not joking at all.
1. He is a drunk
2. He is a driver for the company
Hence:
He is a drunk driver.
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Not joking at all.
1. He is a drunk
2. He is a driver for the company
Hence:
He is a drunk driver.
come on 333
you're not really an attorney are you?
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Not joking at all.
1. He is a drunk
2. He is a driver for the company
Hence:
He is a drunk driver.
if your not joking that's probably the dumbest thing i have read on this site
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if your not joking that's probably the dumbest thing i have read on this site
Fine - would it have made it any better or worse if I labeled him an Alcoholic Driver instead of a Drunk?
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Really? So when this drunk gets his job back and kills someone - and the family of the dead person sues the trucking company for knowingly allowing a drunk on the road, guess what happens?
Yeah - in obama's america - "fairness" dictates that we endanger other motorists because this guy cant control himself for the needs of the job.
What next - suing a plane company who fires a pilot who contracts a dehibilitating eye disease and cant see? Well, knowing obama admn, probably would happen.
And now alcoholism is a disease under the ADA? WTF? Should be let known drunks operate cranes, trains, and ships?
Classifying alcoholism as a disease or a disability in not something new and it is definitely not something started by the Obama administration.
One of the most misunderstood areas of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 ("ADA") is an employer's rights and responsibilities with respect to alcoholics and drug abusers. This article briefly examines the basic rules on alcoholism and drug abuse from the employer perspective.
An individual with alcoholism has a disability which is protected under the ADA .. . An employer may not refuse to hire a qualified individual because of his or her alcoholism, and may not punish an alcoholic employee more severely than non-alcoholic employees for the same conduct.
Reasonable accommodation for alcoholics: Although employers must provide reasonable accommodation to alcoholics in appropriate cases, an employer is never required to provide an accommodation to facilitate employee alcoholism or tolerate substandard performance resulting from alcoholism.
For example, an employer need not allow an employee to come in late on Monday mornings due to weekend binges. Reasonable accommodation may include, however, allowing an alcoholic employee time off to participate in a rehabilitation program or attend Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. Employers are not required to provide a reasonable accommodation which creates undue hardship for the employer.
Employers should enforce workplace standards uniformly: Employers should establish and enforce workplace standards regarding alcohol in the workplace.
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We are talking about trucking goods across highways for fucks sake!
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Really? So when this drunk gets his job back and kills someone - and the family of the dead person sues the trucking company for knowingly allowing a drunk on the road, guess what happens?
Yeah - in obama's america - "fairness" dictates that we endanger other motorists because this guy cant control himself for the needs of the job.
What next - suing a plane company who fires a pilot who contracts a dehibilitating eye disease and cant see? Well, knowing obama admn, probably would happen.
And now alcoholism is a disease under the ADA? WTF? Should be let known drunks operate cranes, trains, and ships?
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He was a driver who says he is an alcoholic. Hence - he is a drunk driver.
Ludicrous... there are alchololics who haven't had a drop in years..
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Ludicrous... there are alchololics who haven't had a drop in years..
That's fine - let then get other jobs than driving cargo and goods across in trucks.
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That's fine - let then get other jobs than driving cargo and goods across in trucks.
Are you SURE you are a lawyer??
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Are you SURE you are a lawyer??
Yes, and I am also a motorist who really does not want to have a sick sinking feeling the next time I am on I 95 that the trucker next to me with a tanker carrying gasoline or some other hazardous material is a drunk who is driving because Obama sued the company to get him his job back.
There is a time when reality and common sense are supposed to enter in to an equation. Sadly - with the election of Boy Wonder that seems to all have gone by the way side in the name of tolerance, fairness, and social justice.
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i like the little "Obama admin" title..
this little fuckface thinks he is smart. what a little bitch
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i like the little "Obama admin" title..
this little fuckface thinks he is smart. what a little bitch
EEOC is part of the Obama Admn
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i like the little "Obama admin" title..
this little fuckface thinks he is smart. what a little bitch
Should blind people be able to fly planes?
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Yes, and I am also a motorist who really does not want to have a sick sinking feeling the next time I am on I 95 that the trucker next to me with a tanker carrying gasoline or some other hazardous material is a drunk who is driving because Obama sued the company to get him his job back.
There is a time when reality and common sense are supposed to enter in to an equation. Sadly - with the election of Boy Wonder that seems to all have gone by the way side in the name of tolerance, fairness, and social justice.
333 - try not to panic but there are non-drunk alcholics driving the same roads as you every time you get in the car.
In fact, I'm sure most of them are safer drivers than you. Your constant state of rage probably makes you pretty distracted. Shit, for all we know you're posting on GB while you're driving
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EEOC is part of the Obama Admn
Really?
EEOC Celebrates Its 46th Anniversary
Commission Plans Commemorative Activities Across the Country
WASHINGTON – July 2, 2011, marks the 46th anniversary of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Created by the historic Civil Rights Act of 1964, the EEOC was founded to enforce Title VII of that Act, which prohibits discrimination in employment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. On July 22, 2011 the EEOC will also celebrate the 21th anniversary of the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which expanded employment opportunities for physically, emotionally and mentally disabled people.
http://www.eeoc.gov/ (http://www.eeoc.gov/)
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Its under the Exec Branch.
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Yes, and I am also a motorist who really does not want to have a sick sinking feeling the next time I am on I 95 that the trucker next to me with a tanker carrying gasoline or some other hazardous material is a drunk who is driving because Obama sued the company to get him his job back.
There is a time when reality and common sense are supposed to enter in to an equation. Sadly - with the election of Boy Wonder that seems to all have gone by the way side in the name of tolerance, fairness, and social justice.
I doubt your ignorance of the law was what was intended by the statement "blind justice"....but it really fits you. You appear to be blind to the facts in any situation with which you disagree. Do you argue your "legal" cases based on your opinion and not based on the facts, as you do here?
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I doubt your ignorance of the law was what was intended by the statement "blind justice"....but it really fits you. You appear to be blind to the facts in any situation with which you disagree. Do you argue your "legal" cases based on your opinion and not based on the facts, as you do here?
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I doubt your ignorance of the law was what was intended by the statement "blind justice"....but it really fits you. You appear to be blind to the facts in any situation with which you disagree. Do you argue your "legal" cases based on your opinion and not based on the facts, as you do here?
The facts to me appear the guy has a problem with booze and is not fit to be behind the wheel of a tractor trailor.
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I doubt your ignorance of the law was what was intended by the statement "blind justice"....but it really fits you. You appear to be blind to the facts in any situation with which you disagree. Do you argue your "legal" cases based on your opinion and not based on the facts, as you do here?
333 is not just blind to the facts. He can look at objective facts, statements, even audio and video and "hear" only want he wants to hear
I think it's a tactic to protect himself from losing his fragile and tenuous grip on reality
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The facts to me appear the guy has a problem with booze and is not fit to be behind the wheel of a tractor trailor.
While this may, in fact, be true. You titled this thread "Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!" and that is false as are many of your opinions.
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While this may, in fact, be true. You titled this thread "Obama Admn suing Trucking Firm after firing drunk driver. wtf!" and that is false as are many of your opinions.
I think the Obama photoshops are of much better quality than the Bush ones; what do you think?
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i like the little "Obama admin" title..
this little fuckface thinks he is smart. what a little bitch
Seriously dude, how the fuck is this not "Obama admin"?
This is like saying just because Obama didn't authorize every fucking military operation in Libya, we can't "Obama adminstration takes out Libyan air defense". ::)
Of course we can say that. That buck stops with Obama, he's the top dog, he sets the tone, he has prosecutorial discretion, and he gets both credit and BLAME.
How quickly it's been forgotten that at one point the Obama administration decided it wouldn't go after medical marijuana and then reversed itself. But yeah, the administration doesn't get involved with laws - ::)
At most you may be able to argue that Bush Admin should've been included because I would guess that appointed commissioners probably fall under both Admins. (don't know for sure).
But saying you can't use Obama admin...GMAFB.
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Seriously dude, how the fuck is this not "Obama admin"?
This is like saying just because Obama didn't authorize every fucking military operation in Libya, we can't "Obama adminstration takes out Libyan air defense". ::)
Of course we can say that. That buck stops with Obama, he's the top dog, he sets the tone, he has prosecutorial discretion, and he gets both credit and BLAME.
How quickly it's been forgotten that at one point the Obama administration decided it wouldn't go after medical marijuana and then reversed itself. But yeah, the administration doesn't get involved with laws - ::)
At most you may be able to argue that Bush Admin should've been included because I would guess that appointed commissioners probably fall under both Admins. (don't know for sure).
But saying you can't use Obama admin...GMAFB.
Skip, the problem with the title is that it tries to make it look like Obama's administration is going after the firm.. the fact is, the EEOC is (If in fact they are).. and as someone else posted, it's been around 46 frigging years so GMAFB
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LMAO!!!!
and DOJ with Fast and Furious?
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Skip, the problem with the title is that it tries to make it look like Obama's administration is going after the firm.. the fact is, the EEOC is (If in fact they are).. and as someone else posted, it's been around 46 frigging years so GMAFB
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The executive branch has been around for over 200 years.
Bottom line is that Obama is the top dog of the executive. When the DOJ argues one side of a case, it the Obama's Administrations side that is being argued REGARDLESS of whether Obama personally signed off on the case or not.
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The executive branch has been around for over 200 years.
Bottom line is that Obama is the top dog of the executive. When the DOJ argues one side of a case, it the Obama's Administrations side that is being argued REGARDLESS of whether Obama personally signed off on the case or not.
what Obama admn is doing is trying to greatly expand the ADA and make it harder to fire people.
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what Obama admn is doing is trying to greatly expand the ADA and make it harder to fire people.
Only the libtards could possibly argue that Obama should not be held accountable for what his executive agencies do under his leadership.
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Only the libtards could possibly argue that Obama should not be held accountable for what his executive agencies do under his leadership.
Most people understand ADA and EEOC rules don't change every 4 yrs with the president.. Most people..
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Most people understand ADA and EEOC rules don't change every 4 yrs with the president.. Most people..
Most people understand that when a person assumes the top position in any organization, they assume responsibility for what goes on within that organization. Most people...
Most people understand that when an article reads "Obama Administration does such and such", it's probably not being done personally by Obama. Most people...
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administrative agencies have large discretion what to pursue.
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Only the libtards could possibly argue that Obama should not be held accountable for what his executive agencies do under his leadership.
Didn't you know? Obama can't be held accountable for ANYTHING. They're basically admitting that he's as useless as they come. They're saying that he has no control over his own subordinates. :-X
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Didn't you know? Obama can't be held accountable for ANYTHING. They're basically admitting that he's as useless as they come. They're saying that he has no control over his own subordinates. :-X
No doubt. They've got no problem giving him the credit though...cue another Nobel Prize!
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No doubt. They've got no problem giving him the credit though...cue another Nobel Prize!
Disclaimer: All Nobel Peace Prizes come complete with the rented out US military bombing of some third-world Arab country that was trying to rebuild its ties with America in order to secure oil for your warmongering European socialist butt-buddies.
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No doubt. They've got no problem giving him the credit though...cue another Nobel Prize!
Oh fuck! Just spit out my vodka and Gatorade! Lmfao. Post of the month!
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Disclaimer: All Nobel Peace Prizes come complete with the rented out US military bombing of some third-world Arab country that was trying to rebuild its ties with America in order to secure oil for your warmongering European socialist butt-buddies.
lol
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Disclaimer: All Nobel Peace Prizes come complete with the rented out US military bombing of some third-world Arab country that was trying to rebuild its ties with America in order to secure oil for your warmongering European socialist butt-buddies.
Damn, might not get to sleep tonight w the laughter.
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Oh fuck! Just spit out my vodka and Gatorade! Lmfao. Post of the month!
Vodka on a Tuesday night. Hardcore!
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Only the libtards could possibly argue that Obama should not be held accountable for what his executive agencies do under his leadership.
following the posts back that spured this comment, Agnostic007 is a libtard? He doesn't sound like a liberal to me.
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following the posts back that spured this comment, Agnostic007 is a libtard? He doesn't sound like a liberal to me.
Really, he comes off that way to me. Of course, Tu Holmes classifies him as a facist - so it's a sliding scale.
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Vodka on a Tuesday night. Hardcore!
Haha, 333's got the life. Boozing, bitchez and brutal ownings of insecure leftist dweebs on Getdumb.
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Vodka on a Tuesday night. Hardcore!
I drink vodka most nights. Part of the routine. Work, lift, drink, repeat.
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Haha, 333's got the life. Boozing, bitchez and brutal ownings of insecure leftist dweebs on Getdumb.
I multitask. I have tons of shit going on all the time. The more I multi task, the easier it is.
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Really, he comes off that way to me. Of course, Tu Holmes classifies him as a facist - so it's a sliding scale.
to me he sounds more like he's disgusted with both parties. If that's true, I can't really blame him for that. He really doesn't sound like a liberal to me but maybe he can chime in and say.
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I multitask. I have tons of shit going on all the time. The more I multi task, the easier it is.
That's going to cause some more meltdowns. They have a hard enough time just following you around the board. I can't imagine them being able to multi-task and do things like chew gum while walking.
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what Obama admn is doing is trying to greatly expand the ADA and make it harder to fire people.
Greatly expand seems like an overstatement to me. Here is what the Department of Justice has done to "expand" ADA:
"Today, the Department of Justice is publishing two new rules prohibiting disability-based discrimination," the President noted, "and beginning 18 months from now, all new buildings must be constructed in a way that's compliant with the new 2010 standards for the design of doors and windows and elevators and bathrooms -- buildings like stores and restaurants and schools and stadiums and hospitals and hotels and theaters."
Please note that it is the Department of Justice who has adopted these two new rules and udated the ADA standards for new construction and not President Obama himself. He's just the fellow who gets to annouce this to the public.
Here is a comprehensive list of ADA initiatives and proposed changes:
Other Administration Initiatives
President Obama also noted other initiatives to advance the ADA and equal opportunity for people with disabilities, including:
•Additional DOJ notices to improve access to websites, movie theaters, 911 emergency services, and equipment and furniture
•A new executive order, which President Obama signed at the ADA celebration, to establish the Federal government as a model employer of individuals with disabilities
•Expansion of broadband internet access for people with disabilities
•Creation of three new disability offices at the State Department, the Department of Transportation, and Federal Emergency Management Agency
•The U.S. signing of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and pursuing its ratification by Congress
•Efforts to improve independent living by launching the "Year of Community Living" and enforcement of the Olmstead decision which declared involuntary institutional isolation unlawful
•And initiatives to improve access to affordable housing, community supports, and health care.
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to me he sounds more like he's disgusted with both parties. If that's true, I can't really blame him for that. He really doesn't sound like a liberal to me but maybe he can chime in and say.
Who knows. I'm registered independent/not affiliated. But I believe it was The Luke who called me facist and P.I.P. who just recently called me a socialist. :D
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How do you make a website more accesible?
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I drink vodka most nights. Part of the routine. Work, lift, drink, repeat.
This explains a great deal. Now I understand why it appears your brain is fried.
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This explains a great deal. Now I understand why it appears your brain is fried.
LMFAO. On what issue particularly.
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How do you make a website more accesible?
I have no idea. I didn't make this proposal. Why don't you write the Department of Justice and ask them....or write President Obama. I am sure he would be happy to explain it to you.
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I have no idea. I didn't make this proposal. Why don't you write the Department of Justice and ask them....or write President Obama. I am sure he would be happy to explain it to you.
seeing what he and Holder have sent to congress re F n F, I would probably get a blacked out page.
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Who knows. I'm registered independent/not affiliated. But I believe it was The Luke who called me facist and P.I.P. who just recently called me a socialist. :D
these days, I don't know what the hell I am lol...
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seeing what he and Holder have sent to congress re F n F, I would probably get a blacked out page.
So, are you saying you won't even give it a try? ....Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Remember, we are their employer. Without income from our taxes they'd just be volunteers....and who in their right mind would ever volunteer for such a thankless job.
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So, are you saying you won't even give it a try? ....Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Remember, we are their employer. Without income from our taxes they'd just be volunteers....and who in their right mind would ever volunteer for such a thankless job.
Someone who will make millions and millions a year giving speeches afterwards.
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Someone who will make millions and millions a year giving speeches afterwards.
Are you making excuses now? Really, are you just another complainer who isn't willing to take some action? What are you worried he might actually answer you?
Try drinking Scotch instead. I've heard Vodka causes hallucinations.
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Are you making excuses now? Really, are you just another complainer who isn't willing to take some action? What are you worried he might actually answer you?
Try drinking Scotch instead. I've heard Vodka causes hallucinations.
Lmfao! Yankee game just started after 4 hour rain delay, easy now.
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Lmfao! Yankee game just started after 4 hour rain delay, easy now.
Classic avoidance. You can read how the game turns out in tomorrows newspaper. Take some action now while the iron is hot!
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Classic avoidance. You can read how the game turns out in tomorrows newspaper. Take some action now while the iron is hot!
what - send a FOIL request to Obama on the ADA and how it applies to drunks?
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what - send a FOIL request to Obama on the ADA and how it applies to drunks?
For this information, you just need to read the law....lawyer.
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For this information, you just need to read the law....lawyer.
I read the law, still dont see how it applies to a trucking firm where others are in danger.
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following the posts back that spured this comment, Agnostic007 is a libtard? He doesn't sound like a liberal to me.
More libertarian than anything. Not a Bush fan, not an Obama fan. In fact, as I've said before, I think the politicians are ingenious at keeping the status quot. It gives sheeple an illusion of hope that every 4 yrs half the people who lost last time can feel like they can make a change if only their party wins.. Keeps us in line... if the truth came out... that nothing major will ever change because the politicians really don't give a damn what we want, we might rise up and put an end to it. But alas, the Republicans can suffer this fool for 4 yrs, then vote in a savior...then the Democrats can suffer that fool for 4 yrs and try and vote in their savior... rinse and repeat.
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I read the law, still dont see how it applies to a trucking firm where others are in danger.
Let me explain. But first, I want you to know that I think laws against and the punishments for driving under the influence should be even tougher than they are. In some places, like Germany I believe, if you get caught driving under the influence, you lose your license forever. I noticed a lot of folks bicycling to work when I was last in Germany.
Anyway, ADA classifies alcoholism as a disability. Since 1990 all employers, including trucking companies, have been required to comply with ADA rules. This doesn't mean they have to allow this fellow to drive truck for them, it means they must endeavor to accommodate his disability and they must afford him the opportunity to go though an alcoholic treatment program. If they can find some other job which doesn't require driving a truck for him until he is deemed "recovered", then great....everyone is happy. However, if their is no "reasonable accommodation" available, then they could terminate him. Remember, he is considered disabled. Technically, he would be eligible for disability benefits because of his disease.
What the trucking company should have done to be in compliance with the law is to offer this fellow time off to go through a treatment program before they officially terminated him. Most employers write this up as a "last chance" for the employee. This way, should they return to work and in the future and are even suspected of drinking on the job, they are fired....no questions asked. No recourse.
Again, I hear you when you say that you'd hate to think that the fellow driving a big rig with a load of fuel next to you on the freeway is possibly under the influence.... Best that you don't think about it at all, because truckers have been known to use amphetamines to stay awake for days at a time.
If you believe the ADA rules should be altered to reflect the danger truckers who drive under the influence present to the rest of us, you should lobby your legislators regarding this concern. Start a campaign. Write letters to the editor. Etc. In other words, rather than look for someone to blame, use that energy to effect a change in the law.
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Let me explain. But first, I want you to know that I think laws against and the punishments for driving under the influence should be even tougher than they are. In some places, like Germany I believe, if you get caught driving under the influence, you lose your license forever. I noticed a lot of folks bicycling to work when I was last in Germany.
Anyway, ADA classifies alcoholism as a disability. Since 1990 all employers, including trucking companies, have been required to comply with ADA rules. This doesn't mean they have to allow this fellow to drive truck for them, it means they must endeavor to accommodate his disability and they must afford him the opportunity to go though an alcoholic treatment program. If they can find some other job which doesn't require driving a truck for him until he is deemed "recovered", then great....everyone is happy. However, if their is no "reasonable accommodation" available, then they could terminate him. Remember, he is considered disabled. Technically, he would be eligible for disability benefits because of his disease.
What the trucking company should have done to be in compliance with the law is to offer this fellow time off to go through a treatment program before they officially terminated him. Most employers write this up as a "last chance" for the employee. This way, should they return to work and in the future and are even suspected of drinking on the job, they are fired....no questions asked. No recourse.
Again, I hear you when you say that you'd hate to think that the fellow driving a big rig with a load of fuel next to you on the freeway is possibly under the influence.... Best that you don't think about it at all, because truckers have been known to use amphetamines to stay awake for days at a time.
If you believe the ADA rules should be altered to reflect the danger truckers who drive under the influence present to the rest of us, you should lobby your legislators regarding this concern. Start a campaign. Write letters to the editor. Etc. In other words, rather than look for someone to blame, use that energy to effect a change in the law.
from that it sounds like they will lose the lawsuit. They did offer him another position with the company.
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from that it sounds like they will lose the lawsuit. They did offer him another position with the company.
If you are correct in that he was offered a different position and there are no other conflicting details we don't know about. It would seem he doesn't have a valid lawsuit. However, it is odd that the EEOC took this on if that's the case. These agencies generally only take cases they are fairly sure of winning.
I once had a clear case of age discrimination against my employer because my boss stated to me that I didn't get a promotion because another candidate "had a lot of energy" (she didn't it turned out). However, the term energy as applied to a forty year old verses a sixty year old in this case was age discrimination. By the way, it was not a position which required physical energy, just some brains and management skills (she didn't have these either). I contacted the Bureau of Labor and Industries who directed me to the EEOC. They were very interested in taking the case. As it turned out, I accepted a cash settlement from my employer in exchange for not pursuing legal action. This way, I made some extra money and kept my job until I retired five years later. The energetic lady ended up being off work with health issues more than she was at work working. She eventually took disability and resigned. I had the last laugh!