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at least the pilsulin has size
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No...Franco in '81, Arnold in '80, and Chris Dickerson.
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Absolutely. Zane looked like shit.
Zane physique was good maybe for men's bikini but bodybuilding..?... oh bro ::) ::)
I don't get all the hype. Title should be taken from him retroactively. It was clear mistake and gives bb a bad name.
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Absolutely. Zane looked like shit.
Zane physique was good maybe for men's bikini but bodybuilding..?... oh bro ::) ::)
I don't get all the hype. Title should be taken from him retroactively. It was clear mistake and gives bb a bad name.
and it gives all the anti size guys a reference point
"frank zane bla bla bleh" *posting same shit pics over and over*
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Horseshit.
Zane had one of one best, most aesthetically pleasing builds to ever grace a Olympia stage. Mass with class if there ever was one. Columbu's early 80's win was the worst Olympia win. Today's competitions are more akin to a cattle auction than anything requiring beauty or grace.
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Horseshit.
Zane had one best, most aesthetically pleasing builds to ever grace a Olympia stage. Mass with class if there ever was one. Columbu's early 80's win was the worst Olympia win. Today's competitions are more akin to a cattle auction than anything requiring beauty or grace.
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Horseshit.
Zane had one of one best, most aesthetically pleasing builds to ever grace a Olympia stage. Mass with class if there ever was one. Columbu's early 80's win was the worst Olympia win. Today's competitions are more akin to a cattle auction than anything requiring beauty or grace.
what mass? he looks like a washed up twink
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what mass? he looks like a washed up twink
He carried a good amount of muscle on frame and had great lines, etc..... He was a small man that took his physique to the max because he understood that, he understood that he couldn't out muscle the others so he had to do it with such things as proportion, etc.......
(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/frank_zane2.jpg).
I can appreciate the freak factor in body building for what it is now.... but I also understand that there is also another side to to it, which Zane represented ably.
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Bodybuilding is toooo subjective. One person doesn't like Zane while another does. Bottom line, unlike now, back then was real bodybuilding with real training and yes of course drugs but nothing like the bullshit you see now.
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purebullshit is establishing himself as the most retarded threadstarter since AXA chaotic
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
phenomenal flow, proportions, balance and above all symmetry
pity bout the bicep injury with the mosquito bite that happened 3 weeks ago and started showing on eve of the show
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No...Franco in '81, Arnold in '80, and Chris Dickerson.
i totally agree about franco in 81 and dickerson in 82 because i watched the whole videos of these 2 shows but not very sure about arnold in 80,.. need to watch the full video to judge..
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dickerson should have won in 81 with danny 2nd
82 was samirs
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
Looks like a greek statue.
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dickerson should have won in 81 with danny 2nd
82 was samirs
very true and 97 was nasser's :-X
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
I wonder why they call him the fridge...
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I think Zane looked his best in the early 70s, when he wasn't as ripped as he was later on. He had incredible legs and calves back then (early 70s).
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
For fuck sakes I thought it was kovacs at first. What a shit bag.
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(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/fzfrnt.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/bannoutzane.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/shredded.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/fz38.jpg)
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wtf man
Zane is a myth, in my opinion thats how the bodybuilder should look like.. maybe a little bit bigger, but not that much.
And also doesn't look to me that he was a guy who used a lot of stuff,, and you can see how he is nowadays.. looks absolutely great! For me the guy is an inspiration.
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Also he is bigger than 95 % of the formers pros.
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Zane was the best in the 70's
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Zane's era was where body building should have stopped... now it's embarrassing.
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for all the waterheads who don't uderstand the "blown up from within" "virgin muscle" "density and hardness" phrases, look at zane then look at phil, if you don't see the difference you're lactose intolerant.
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Zane was awesome.
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purebullshit is establishing himself as the most retarded threadstarter since AXA chaotic
Totally agree, what a fucktard.
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Zane was awesome.
x1000
(http://www.musclesprod.com/wp-content/gallery/frank-zane/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
(http://acquireyok3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/frank-zane-abs.jpg)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane.jpg)
(http://www.frankzane.com/web/photo_gallery/Zane_Photos/p7r3c1_large.jpg)
(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/62305-1/18+Frank+Zane+picture.jpg)
(http://www.frankzane.org/pictures/frank-zane-3.jpg)
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Personally, I think the majority of men would rather look like Zane than win the Mr O.
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Franco Columbu 1981 was the worst Mr. O to date.
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cumboblo was crap
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Looks like a greek statue.
Fuck that he does his waist is HUGE and wide as hell, makes his impressive quads look not so impressive. He has massive shoulder width, rounded bowling ball delts and separated traps which distracts you from his horrible inherent torso structure. He carries his upper body mass very well but lacks in other areas and really now, you know thats not what a pair of biceps are supposed to look like.
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franco was maybe not deserving in 81 . but he carried and injury with him . zane never competed in strongman .. frank isdisliked by some because he lacks size .
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zane is a little bitch haha
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The ones that say zane was small, overrated, a swimmer, etc
Either were born in the 90s and think yates was "back in the day" and don't realize that even if they weighed a muscular 250lbs at 6 foot in 1979 and stood next to zane, they'd immediately feel inferior. Its something you either get, or you don't
Or, older guys that have wide waists, were fat as kids, and are all about the "gorilla suit".
It comes down to preference, but ask any real bber, or pros past and present, and they'll tell you zane was great
Even todays seo, slin, and gh boosted guys know what its like to bodybuild. But they're in a diff era
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troll thread, but I have to reply:
Zane = aesthetics.
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Jay Cuutler is the most undeserved Mr. Olympia ever!
Jay Cutler with is wide waist and fridge shaped body is everything that is wrong with modern bodybuilding! :(
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ok you girls, so which god damn Mr O did you mother fuckin' haters like?
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what he has is a look that most people can appreciate and isnt a freak show look, its a look that doesnt yell roids etc
the regular non pro guy should aim to look like that or as close to it as possible, the pros have no choice it seems, they must kill their waist line off in order to get to the size needed to possibly win
zanes look on a beach with girls would get him way more female attention (good attention that can lead to something) versus the freak gh gut look (that would get attention im sure from schmoes seeking posing sessions).
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at least the pilsulin has size
When are people going to understand, you just dont get it,.... The Olympia Title is suppose to be the title that sets new standards in the crieteria of bodybuilding, what is bodybuilding,.....bodybuilding is mascularity, conditioning, symmetry, proportions, details, etc, you cant have them all, but that is the beuaty of bodybuilding, you can score high in some areas and in others score low, what is important is what you bring to the table that distinguishes you from the rest,... Frank Zan set the new standard in details,symmetry and more importanly conditioning, precisely being the most deserving Mr. Olympia of all time. Easy to take away some of his credit when everyone is shredded nowadays but in his era they were not as shredded so when you saw him the WOW factor was definatly there.
Word of advice to you, learn more about bodybuilding, its history, the judging, the way it works so you don not sound so foolish ;)
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Absolutely. Zane looked like shit.
Zane physique was good maybe for men's bikini but bodybuilding..?... oh bro ::) ::)
I don't get all the hype. Title should be taken from him retroactively. It was clear mistake and gives bb a bad name.
Zane should be executed by means of lethal injection..
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Most overrated ever.
The guy has nothing.
Most important thing, he does'nt have V-taper at all.
Poor abs with a hole in the middle like Coleman
Massive oblique
Poor ratio between his shoulders width and his waist width .
No upper pec etc...
Would look like shit next to a guy like Shawn Ray, Peter Molnar, Labrada, Dexter etc...
He perfectly describe the poor quality of the level after Arnold area and before the arrival of Lee Haney.
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Poor abs with a hole in the middle like Coleman
It's called a belly button in english..
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You have a steaming pile of shit as your avatar and you talk about Zane being shit?
Maybe it's just the shit-thing, BA.... ;)
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You have a steaming pile of shit as your avatar and you talk about Zane being shit?
Coincidence? Well, I stink not!
Bold part: Are you really that dumb or just doing your best to be seen as that?
COmparing a 1960 chevy to 2012 Lambo.....--->chevy cant keep up the Lambo.....
You sound like the typical low IQ met everytime on the internet which always force people to explain again what they just clearly said.
I have never compared his bodypart with bbers 30 years after him in term of mass.
I have never said he looks shit because he is smaller than the guys of the 90's or 2000's
I have never criticised his bodyparts because they are not freaky.
I just said he looks like nothing in a AESTHETICALLY sence. Means there are a lot of guys more aesthetic before him and after him.
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It's called a belly button in english..
Thanks :)
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Zane was great for his time - not sure why all the hate.
How Dickerson ever won I'll never know.
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He deserved it a lot more than Cutler, Columbo, Dickerson, et al
His aesthetics get overrated sometimes, but a fair amount of the time back in the day he looked awesome.
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Zane was great for his time - not sure why all the hate.
How Dickerson ever won I'll never know.
There was no concurrence at all in his time. 1 or 2 years before his first tittle I remind you there were Arnold, Ferrigno and Nubret on the same stage.
Arnold destroyed him in 1980 in the worst shape of his life and saddly preparred for the contest. That proves he just had a good carrer because there were no exeptionnal guys during his "reign".
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There was no concurrence at all in his time. 1 or 2 years before his first tittle I remind you there were Arnold, Ferrigno and Nubret on the same stage.
Arnold destroyed him in 1980 in the worst shape of his life and saddly preparred for the contest. That proves he just had a good carrer because there were no exeptionnal guys during his "reign".
Zane nearly killed himself before the 80 contest, which fucked up his prep and Arnold didn't "destroy" him. Sadly prepared, wtf does that mean lol?
Who were the exceptional guys during Sergio's or most of Arnolds years? Sergio and Serge had jumped ship most of them years.
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He deserved it a lot more than Cutler, Columbo, Dickerson, et al
His aesthetics get overrated sometimes, but a fair amount of the time back in the day he looked awesome.
He doesn't look impressive at all.
Cutler had creazy width and crazy legs. Columbo had crazy back and chest, Dickerson...well, nobody care about him.
The fact is that you can be very impressive without being enormous like Labrada, Craig Richardson, Ulysse Jr etc... and that's not the case for Zane mainly because he is flat and doesn't have V-taper which is the most important.
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He doesn't look impressive at all.
Cutler had creazy width and crazy legs. Columbo had crazy back and chest, Dickerson...well, nobody care about him.
The fact is that you can be very impressive without being enormous like Labrada, Craig Richardson, Ulysse Jr etc... and that's not the case for Zane mainly because he is flat and doesn't have V-taper which is the most important.
Cutler has a waist as wide as his shoulders, going on classic ideals he shouldn't place in a top 50 of an Olympia.
Zane killing Franco based on lines and structure.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395479.0;attach=429661;image)
Labrada didn't have a better taper than Zane, ulisses jr looks great sometimes but looks like an average bloated gymrat the last i saw of him. Never heard of the other guy,,,,,googled him looks blocky.
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Zane nearly killed himself before the 80 contest, which fucked up his prep and Arnold didn't "destroy" him. Sadly prepared, wtf does that mean lol?
Who were the exceptional guys during Sergio's or most of Arnolds years? Sergio and Serge had jumped ship most of them years.
Arnold had very short time to prepare for the contest cause of his movies. He had to cycle in a sauna with a lot of clothes on him to loose water which make him looking very flat.
Sergio and Arnold themselfs are exceptional even if I'm not a fan of Sergio. You also had Ferrigno, Robby Robinson,
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Cutler has a waist as wide as his shoulders, going on classic ideals he shouldn't place in a top 50 of an Olympia.
Zane killing Franco based on lines and structure.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395479.0;attach=429661;image)
Labrada didn't have a better taper than Zane, ulisses jr looks great sometimes but looks like an average bloated gymrat the last i saw of him. Never heard of the other guy,,,,,googled him looks blocky.
Cutler looked almost perfect during 2001-2003 although everybody prefer to remember his last shitty years.
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080706670495.png)
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080752846670.png)
(http://nsa26.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080906499857.png)
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513081016185899.png)
That's perfect ratio shoulders/Waistline. Zane had poor ratio in comparaison to hundreds of guys including a lot of amateurs.
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Cutler looked almost perfect during 2001-2003 although everybody prefer to remember his last shitty years.
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080706670495.png)
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080752846670.png)
(http://nsa26.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513080906499857.png)
(http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2012/05/13//120513081016185899.png)
That's perfect ratio shoulders/Waistline. Zane had poor ratio in comparaison to hundreds of guys including a lot of amateurs.
Haha, ok i can't take this seriously.
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Anyone without synthol arms is unimpressive by today's standards.
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WTF are people talking about in this thread, Zane had one of the craziest shoulder to waist ratios, fuckman, I cant believe what I am hearing ???
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WTF are people talking about in this thread, Zane had one of the craziest shoulder to waist ratios, fuckman, I cant believe what I am hearing ???
Cutler has a much better shoulder to waist ratio apparently ??? ??? :o
Jesus fucking christ.
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Cutler has a much better shoulder to waist ratio apparently ??? ??? :o
Jesus fucking christ.
Of course he has. ::)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S5i2PvvFn2I/AAAAAAAAHvg/H4s9MKcKjc8/s400/Jay+Cutler+at+2003+Arnold+Classic++-+www.Musclebase.blogspot.com.jpg)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
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Of course he has. ::)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S5i2PvvFn2I/AAAAAAAAHvg/H4s9MKcKjc8/s400/Jay+Cutler+at+2003+Arnold+Classic++-+www.Musclebase.blogspot.com.jpg)
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
I can find a million pics of Cutler where he looks very very bad taper wise. You also have to bear in mind the amount of seo used in the shoulders and the extra thickness due to very high dose GH.
Zane's aesthetics do get overrated and no he didn't have a tiny waist. He wasn't Buchanan, Oliva type of taper.
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I can find a million pics of Cutler where he looks very very bad taper wise. You also have to bear in mind the amount of seo used in the shoulders and the extra thickness due to very high dose GH.
Zane's aesthetics do get overrated and no he didn't have a tiny waist. He wasn't Buchanan, Oliva type of taper.
Ok so we agree to say his ligne is overrated.
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Both Zane and Dickerson looked amazing. They really shined when they stood next to another bodybuilder. Then you could see what definition and density they had. Dickerson should have been a two time winner. I miss when an under 200lbs guy could win the Olympia.
The bloated champs of today look soft to me. The oil inject muscle looks like garbage.
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This is from Natural Mr. Olympia at Ironage that may give some
insight into what made Frank so good for his time and then I'll
give my own perspective on some oldies I've seen in person.
Arnold really had a great flow to his physique. I really noticed it when he competed at the 1980 Olympia at less than his best. Even at only 80% and with much less mass, Arnold still looked better than most of the other competitors who trained hard all year for that contest. You just can't change the overall shape and symmetry of your physique. Zane, obviously, had a very beautiful physique too. Even though Arnold is known mostly for his mass and size and he did have some structural flaws like a wide waist and narrow thighs, his physique just looks right. He was blessed with good muscle shape and a pleasing physique. Going back to Zane, I remember seeing a picture of him with about 3 or 4 other bodybuilders in the Nabba Universe (maybe from '72) and, even though he is probably smaller and lighter than the other guys, his overall shape and structure is just so superior that he looks bigger and better than all of them. That's what his critics, who always call him skinny or a swimmer physique, don't understand about Zane. He just looked better because of the overall flow and symmetry to his physique.
My take is that if Robby Robinson had come in ripped for the Olympia's he
competed against Frank it would have been very close with Robby probably
winning. Frank won during a time when the competition was relatively weak
and the fact is he looked better and more polished than his competitors.
Take Dorian for example - No one during his reign could match his dry, hard
grainy look that gave him a look no one else had.
Have seen Boyer Coe, Mike Mentzer, Bertil Fox, Gary Strydom, Lee Haney
and Chris Dickerson all in good shape at a pretty close distance.
I am not saying at all that Dickerson should beat all these guys but I
can say that he is one of those guys that looks totally different in person (in a good unique way)
than video or pictures more so than the others mentioned. This was in his prime
between 80-82. As much as I like Arnold the bodybuilder I would have picked
Dickerson in 1980. His back and legs were 1st or 2nd best in the contest and
I can't get past how thin Arnold's legs were for that contest.
Saying that, Arnold's 1973-74 physique is one of the best ever to grace
a bodybuilding stage.
Arnold 1973
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Ok so we agree to say his ligne is overrated.
i cant help but notice that you call out others for being typical low IQ internet users that u need to explain yourself to over and over.
yet your literacy is very poor. Go through your threads and learn how to spell simple words like "sense", the meanings of words like "themselves" (not "themselfs"..lol), and concepts like "lose", as opposed to your use of the word "loose"...
your credibility is non existent.
You in fact, are that internet loser you speak of. And you dont even realise it!..lol..
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imagine the BBing world if they had let another dynasty happen... chose 1 BBer and let him win the last 6 or 7 years.
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i cant help but notice that you call out others for being typical low IQ internet users that u need to explain yourself to over and over.
yet your literacy is very poor. Go through your threads and learn how to spell simple words like "sense", the meanings of words like "themselves" (not "themselfs"..lol), and concepts like "lose", as opposed to your use of the word "loose"...
your credibility is non existent.
You in fact, are that internet loser you speak of. And you dont even realise it!..lol..
English is not my natural language and I don't live in a country where people speak english but you didn't point out that so I take your remark as a compliment. I prefer to have "poor literacy" in a stranger langugage and being understood.
The problem is this forum like many other forums are frequented by people who can't even properly read simple messages and force people to repeat themselves.
But I suppose you are able to speak many languages and have a perfect level in your native country. :)
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at least the pilsulin has size
Thanks for sharing, PeNiS.
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That's how a Mr. O should look like
(http://www.team-andro.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/11590/normal_DSC_6036%7E0.jpg)
Oil injected, muffin top above a "thong". Absolutely
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zane and mr haney ;D
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English is not my natural language and I don't live in a country where people speak english but you didn't point out that so I take your remark as a compliment. I prefer to have "poor literacy" in a stranger langugage and being understood.
The problem is this forum like many other forums are frequented by people who can't even properly read simple messages and force people to repeat themselves.
But I suppose you are able to speak many languages and have a perfect level in your native country. :)
well touche...good comeback...i cant beat that.
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zane and mr haney ;D
There is a 50 pounds difference in weight here,. I think Zane is holding his own here
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Arnold had very short time to prepare for the contest cause of his movies. He had to cycle in a sauna with a lot of clothes on him to loose water which make him looking very flat.
Sergio and Arnold themselfs are exceptional even if I'm not a fan of Sergio. You also had Ferrigno, Robby Robinson,
Arnold sensationalism and propaganda.
Arnold was training for conan, which was delayed shooting in spain, he started aiming for the 80 mr O about 6 months although he was in decent shape but smaller.
The story goes he did it in 6 weeks, from out of shape to stage
It helps sell weider mags
Zane, whom arnold respected and feared, they were also friends and training partners, was severely injured in a poolside accident and almost bled to death, during his olympia prep, then after spending weeks in hospital, he still decided to go ahead and defend his title with very little time left.
Arnold wouldve found it very difficult to compete against a 79 shape zane, especially since he'd made gains leading up to 80 pre injury. Unless the fix was in.
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There is a 50 pounds difference in weight here,. I think Zane is holding his own here
Exactly
Also a 23 year old haney near his prime massive on stage next to a 45 year old zane past his prime
Not too shabby
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frank was disliked because his lack of size . but he knew how top peak for contest day and was a good poser ... everyone has flaws .
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He carried a good amount of muscle on frame and had great lines, etc..... He was a small man that took his physique to the max because he understood that, he understood that he couldn't out muscle the others so he had to do it with such things as proportion, etc.......
(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/frank_zane2.jpg).
I can appreciate the freak factor in body building for what it is now.... but I also understand that there is also another side to to it, which Zane represented ably.
I half agree but then all smaller guys have better aesthetics so it's a cop-out. Hugh Jackman and Zak Efron are "aesthetic" because compared to bodybuilders they look human and normal and lean and svelt etc.
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I'd put Zane over all of these current GH gut mass monsters.
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All these haters are right ! They look so much better than Zane did.....
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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So many stupidy in one thread...Cutler is considered aesthetic,zane is a little guy ::) Everyone says Zane looks like shit yet no gym rat comes close to it;s proportions and look ;)
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I'd like today's pros try to look so proportionate....
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So many stupidy in one thread...Cutler is considered aesthetic,zane is a little guy ::) Everyone says Zane looks like shit yet no gym rat comes close to it;s proportions and look ;)
Bro some people can go into an art gallery and think the cheapest picture is the best one, cause they don't know what to look for in art picture. Not saying bodybuilding is an art or anything but people see big muscles most of the time, they can't see the difference between extremely aesthetic body to just a body with ripped mass. Zane had tiny ankle, knees and wrists, had some crisp striations, especially in the upper chest, was perfectly proportioned, had the same conditioning in every muscle group and had nearly transparent skin, this precision on a physique is nearly impossible to duplicate. People are blind
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There was going to be a letdown after Arnold retired, no matter who succeeded him. I like Zane, but there was a lost period from '76 to '83 similar to what we have after Ronnie retired.
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Isn't that Zane's Mrs?
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zane looked bigger in person then in pics, id rather look like zane then todays bbers.
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thats a awesome build, zane had great shape
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If you took any one of Zanes body parts and just looked at that there was nothing special going on. But when you put them all together what a flow of balance and harmony. Look at the band of muscle separating his lat from his rib cage.
The devil is in the detail guys!
I can appreciate the classic lines these guys had, but bring on the massmonsters. If any of those guys had access to the shit they got today we would have had massmonters in the 70's. We would skip over the classic lines and never know the better.
CG
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Here is what there is of the 1977 Mr. Olympia.
If you start around 9:50 and can watch to the end
you get a good commentary from Arnold S. himself.
The video is pretty weak up to the 9:50 mark.
People back then went bat shit crazy at BB contests.
Arnold has to speak very loud to come in clear over the audience.
Zane was in better shape than anyone but Robbie R.
is really the only one who has that WOW factor. He was
just too smooth for this one. He would win a lot of contests
during the year in great shape and never brought his best
to the Olympia.
In this shape here at the Night of Champions he would have beat
Frank.
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Most overrated ever.
The guy has nothing.
Most important thing, he does'nt have V-taper at all.
Poor abs with a hole in the middle like Coleman
Massive oblique
Poor ratio between his shoulders width and his waist width .
No upper pec etc...
Would look like shit next to a guy like Shawn Ray, Peter Molnar, Labrada, Dexter etc...
He perfectly describe the poor quality of the level after Arnold area and before the arrival of Lee Haney.
agreed. its not his lack of size. its his lack of V taper, thigh sweep, full round muscle bellies etc etc.
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There is a 50 pounds difference in weight here,. I think Zane is holding his own here
THE BEEF thinks Zane is kicking Haney's ass.
THE BEEF
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Here is what there is of the 1977 Mr. Olympia.
If you start around 9:50 and can watch to the end
you get a good commentary from Arnold S. himself.
The video is pretty weak up to the 9:50 mark.
People back then went bat shit crazy at BB contests.
Arnold has to speak very loud to come in clear over the audience.
Zane was in better shape than anyone but Robbie R.
is really the only one who has that WOW factor. He was
just too smooth for this one. He would win a lot of contests
during the year in great shape and never brought his best
to the Olympia.
In this shape here at the Night of Champions he would have beat
Frank.
That NOC is the best shape Robby had ever been . . . took a lot of wallets out of gym bags to get the gear to achieve that.
THE BEEF
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very true and 97 was nasser's :-X
Nasser was an oil using fatass in '97. Hope this helps.
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Here is what there is of the 1977 Mr. Olympia.
If you start around 9:50 and can watch to the end
you get a good commentary from Arnold S. himself.
The video is pretty weak up to the 9:50 mark.
People back then went bat shit crazy at BB contests.
Arnold has to speak very loud to come in clear over the audience.
Zane was in better shape than anyone but Robbie R.
is really the only one who has that WOW factor. He was
just too smooth for this one. He would win a lot of contests
during the year in great shape and never brought his best
to the Olympia.
In this shape here at the Night of Champions he would have beat
Frank.
robby was "supposed" to win that show, he was heavily touted by the magazines and got a lot of exposure building up to the show
Everyone felt he just had to show, and it was his
Zane wasn't in the picture, but stole the show
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If any of those guys had access to the shit they got today we would have had massmonters in the 70's. We would skip over the classic lines and never know the better.
CG
That's very true
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Man, look at Robinson's physique in those pictures. That's a bodybuilder.
fantastic
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robby was great exept very high and weak calves . for his time he was good .