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Title: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
THE BIGGEST MYTH THAT IS CIRCULATING AM0NG B0ARDS IS THAT 6-10 BUILDS MASS AND 3-5 BUILDS STRENGTH. YET 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AND THESE GUYS HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS IN TERMS 0F THEIR WEIGHT EVEN SURPASSING S0ME PR0 AND AMATEUR B0DYBUILDERS IN LEG SIZE AND THICKNESS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: g101 on October 07, 2011, 02:50:30 PM
you forgot 12-15 = endurance  ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: The Grim Lifter on October 07, 2011, 02:52:49 PM
Doesn't matter, it's all hormonialias
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2011, 02:56:52 PM
THE BIGGEST MYTH THAT IS CIRCULATING AM0NG B0ARDS IS THAT 6-10 BUILDS MASS AND 3-5 BUILDS STRENGTH. YET 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AND THESE GUYS HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS IN TERMS 0F THEIR WEIGHT EVEN SURPASSING S0ME PR0 AND AMATEUR B0DYBUILDERS IN LEG SIZE AND THICKNESS.

Don't you think their genetics has something to do with this too? If a fellow is naturally built like a long distance runner he isn't likely to develop big hulking power lifter legs regardless of how many or how few reps he does.

Why are you yelling, BTW?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: The Grim Lifter on October 07, 2011, 02:58:34 PM
Don't you think their genetics has something to do with this too? If a fellow is naturally built like a long distance runner he isn't likely to develop big hulking power lifter legs regardless of how many or how few reps he does.

Why are you yelling, BTW?

Because rep ranges is serious shit
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Rudee on October 07, 2011, 03:01:53 PM
It's been proven that people who type in Upper Case letters when typing on message boards have lower IQ scores. 
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2011, 03:03:09 PM
Because rep ranges is serious shit

Which explains why I am currently lifting in the 4-8 rep range. I am a naturally scrawny guy who wanted to be big. I have been trying to get there for over fifty years. Probably not going to happen....but the fun is in trying anyway.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
Don't you think their genetics has something to do with this too? If a fellow is naturally built like a long distance runner he isn't likely to develop big hulking power lifter legs regardless of how many or how few reps he does.

Why are you yelling, BTW?

GENETICS DICTATES H0W BIG Y0UR LEGS WILL BE YES. THAT WASN'T MY P0INT. I'M SAYING REP RANGES D0N'T DICTATE MASS. L00K AT S0ME 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS. THEY HAVE L0NG LEGS, SH0RT T0R0S, AND C0ULD BE L0NG DISTANCE RUNNERS. ESPECIALLY THE CHINESE, BUT ALL HAVE MASSIVE LEGS. WHY? TRAINING WITH HEAVY WEIGHTS BUILDS MASS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
Which explains why I am currently lifting in the 4-8 rep range. I am a naturally scrawny guy who wanted to be big. I have been trying to get there for over fifty years. Probably not going to happen....but the fun is in trying anyway.

I'M CURRENTLY LIFTING IN THE 3-5 REP RANGE. THE ULTIMATE G0AL IS T0 HIT 3X5 WITH THE WEIGHT BEF0RE M0VING UP IN WEIGHT. ESPECIALLY F0R NATURALS, HIGH REP TRAINING ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE F0R PUTTING 0N MASS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2011, 03:28:10 PM
I'M CURRENTLY LIFTING IN THE 3-5 REP RANGE. THE ULTIMATE G0AL IS T0 HIT 3X5 WITH THE WEIGHT BEF0RE M0VING UP IN WEIGHT. ESPECIALLY F0R NATURALS, HIGH REP TRAINING ISN'T AS EFFECTIVE F0R PUTTING 0N MASS.

I warm up with one or two sets in the 10-8 range. The work sets, usually two sets also, are 6-4 range. When I get to the point of doing 6-6 or 8-6 reps, I increase the weight. For quads, specially on the leg press, I do more sets like four or five work sets.

Every so often, I'll drop the weight back some and do higher reps for that day. You can get a great pump out of doing several sets of 20-30 reps on the leg press. When you climb out of the machine you'll feel like you can barely stand up, much less walk.   
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: biff on October 07, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
whats more important, working reps per set, or working reps per workout?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 03:51:09 PM
whats more important, working reps per set, or working reps per workout?

NEITHER. IT'S INCREASING THE WEIGHT AND TRYING T0 D0 M0RE THEN WHAT Y0U DID LAST TIME.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: biff on October 07, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
NEITHER. IT'S INCREASING THE WEIGHT AND TRYING T0 D0 M0RE THEN WHAT Y0U DID LAST TIME.

so increasing 1 rep max every week is best? liek 3 warmups, than heavy single rep is better than any multiple rep range, as long as the weight went up?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 03:56:50 PM
so increasing 1 rep max every week is best? liek 3 warmups, than heavy single rep is better than any multiple rep range, as long as the weight went up?

3-5 REP RANGE 0R 6-8 REP RANGE. Y0U CAN PICK ANY REP RANGE, BUT AFTER Y0U WANT T0 F0CUS G0ING UP IN WEIGHT WITHIN THAT REP RANGE. THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. A L0T 0F PE0PLE ARE STUCK IN REP RANGES AND STILL USE THE SAME L0AD AS THEY DID 6 M0NTHS AG0.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 07, 2011, 04:29:30 PM
3-5 REP RANGE 0R 6-8 REP RANGE. Y0U CAN PICK ANY REP RANGE, BUT AFTER Y0U WANT T0 F0CUS G0ING UP IN WEIGHT WITHIN THAT REP RANGE. THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. A L0T 0F PE0PLE ARE STUCK IN REP RANGES AND STILL USE THE SAME L0AD AS THEY DID 6 M0NTHS AG0.

Which explains why after years and years of working out, some folks continue to look about the same or sometimes worse.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: unrageable on October 07, 2011, 04:41:03 PM
what do you know about being natural?  ::)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 07, 2011, 04:49:26 PM
lol nosleep called you a natural and now u think u cute, u aint shit
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: chess315 on October 07, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
time under tension and gear of course the will have big legs they get quite a bit of time under tension and are juiced up there upper bodies are a different story because it doesnt get time under tension because the olympic lifts have no negative in them
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
You're confusing POWER with strength assbruise
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: el numero uno on October 07, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
NEITHER. IT'S INCREASING THE WEIGHT AND TRYING T0 D0 M0RE THEN WHAT Y0U DID LAST TIME.
for muscle development, this is also a myth
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on October 07, 2011, 05:31:31 PM
most rep ranges would probably work, but I can guarantee 10-12 definitely will
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 06:11:59 PM
You're confusing POWER with strength assbruise

N0 I'M N0T. I'M SAYING REP RANGES D0N'T HAVE ANYTHING T0 D0 WITH MASS EVIDENT BY 0LYMPIC LIFTERS NEVER G0ING AB0VE 3 REPS AND HAVING MASSIVE LEGS. I'M N0T SURE WHAT Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 06:12:43 PM
for muscle development, this is also a myth

N0 IT'S N0T.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 06:14:14 PM
what do you know about being natural?  ::)

QUITE A BIT ACTUALLY. STARTED AT 155 LBS AND N0W AT 180 LBS. PUT 0N 25 LBS 0F MUSCLE NATURALLY.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
N0 I'M N0T. I'M SAYING REP RANGES D0N'T HAVE ANYTHING T0 D0 WITH MASS EVIDENT BY 0LYMPIC LIFTERS NEVER G0ING AB0VE 3 REPS AND HAVING MASSIVE LEGS. I'M N0T SURE WHAT Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT.

You do realize that olympic lifts are explosive lifts and usually done FIRST in the program then SUPPLEMENTAL lifts are done second......right? The key word is SUPPLEMENTAL and on a certain day during a usual program they might incorporate an hypertrophy day.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 06:26:35 PM
You do realize that olympic lifts are explosive lifts and usually done FIRST in the program then SUPPLEMENTAL lifts are done second......right? The key word is SUPPLEMENTAL and on a certain day during a usual program they might incorporate an hypertrophy day.


SIGH. THEY STILL NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS 0N TH0SE SUPPLEMENT LIFTS SUCH AS SQUATS AND FR0NT SQUATS. IN FACT, THE BULGARIAN TEAM N0 L0NGER D0ES BACK SQUATS. THEY 0NLY SUPPLEMENT LIFT THEY D0 IS THE FR0NT SQUAT. REGARDLESS, DID Y0U EVEN READ MY P0ST? BECAUSE Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. BY THE WAY 0LYMPIC LIFTS ARE N0T ALL P0WER. IT TAKES AN EN0RM0US AM0UNT 0F STRENGTH T0 CLEAN AND JERK 2-3 TIMES Y0UR B0DYWEIGHT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Jaime on October 07, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
GENETICS DICTATES H0W BIG Y0UR LEGS WILL BE YES. THAT WASN'T MY P0INT. I'M SAYING REP RANGES D0N'T DICTATE MASS. L00K AT S0ME 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS. THEY HAVE L0NG LEGS, SH0RT T0R0S, AND C0ULD BE L0NG DISTANCE RUNNERS. ESPECIALLY THE CHINESE, BUT ALL HAVE MASSIVE LEGS. WHY? TRAINING WITH HEAVY WEIGHTS BUILDS MASS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.








Lots of drugs builds mass. End of talkie time.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: el numero uno on October 07, 2011, 06:44:27 PM
N0 IT'S N0T.

Yes, it is. Assbruise.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 06:56:55 PM

SIGH. THEY STILL NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS 0N TH0SE SUPPLEMENT LIFTS SUCH AS SQUATS AND FR0NT SQUATS. IN FACT, THE BULGARIAN TEAM N0 L0NGER D0ES BACK SQUATS. THEY 0NLY SUPPLEMENT LIFT THEY D0 IS THE FR0NT SQUAT. REGARDLESS, DID Y0U EVEN READ MY P0ST? BECAUSE Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. BY THE WAY 0LYMPIC LIFTS ARE N0T ALL P0WER. IT TAKES AN EN0RM0US AM0UNT 0F STRENGTH T0 CLEAN AND JERK 2-3 TIMES Y0UR B0DYWEIGHT.

This is where you're confused. It's not strength, it's power. There's a difference. Let me ask you a question. When the coaches put together the training protocols for these athletes, why do suppose they keep between 1-3 reps with a 3-5min rest between sets? I'll give you a hint....... "energy systems".
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 07:15:19 PM
This is where you're confused. It's not strength, it's power. There's a difference. Let me ask you a question. When the coaches put together the training protocols for these athletes, why do suppose they keep between 1-3 reps with a 3-5min rest between sets? I'll give you a hint....... "energy systems".

ARE Y0U SAYING Y0U D0N'T NEED STRENGTH T0 CLEAN AND JERK 3 TIMES Y0UR B0DY WEIGHT? IF Y0U ARE THEN THIS DEBATE IS 0VER. Y0U NEED EN0RM0US BACK, LEG, AND SH0ULDER STRENGTH T0 HANDLE THAT KIND 0F WEIGHT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 07:16:24 PM
Yes, it is. Assbruise.


Y0U'RE RIGHT THAT'S WHY R0NNIE AND D0RIAN WERE BENCHING 500 PLUS. WHY N0T JUST KEEP IT AT 100 LBS SINCE WEIGHT INCREASE D0SEN'T MATTER?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 07:23:39 PM
Please answer my question first.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: dyslexic on October 07, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
You do realize that olympic lifts are explosive lifts and usually done FIRST in the program then SUPPLEMENTAL lifts are done second......right? The key word is SUPPLEMENTAL and on a certain day during a usual program they might incorporate an hypertrophy day.


You beat me to it Coach..
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Please answer my question first.

I NEVER SAID IT WASN'T P0WER. MY P0INT IS Y0U NEED AN EN0RM0US AM0UT 0F STRENGTH ALS0.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 07:33:27 PM
Fair enough. Do you know the difference between power and strength?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: el numero uno on October 07, 2011, 07:36:52 PM
Y0U'RE RIGHT THAT'S WHY R0NNIE AND D0RIAN WERE BENCHING 500 PLUS. WHY N0T JUST KEEP IT AT 100 LBS SINCE WEIGHT INCREASE D0SEN'T MATTER?

Did I said that?  ::)

You said  "IT'S INCREASING THE WEIGHT AND TRYING T0 D0 M0RE THEN WHAT Y0U DID LAST TIME" . That's not right in my experience. I tried it I had a notebook with the number of series, reps and poundages lol. Sorry, I gained strength but did nothing for muscle, infact I think I lost muscle I'm not joking. My diet was in check btw.

But in the long run yes you need to lift heavier weights, but NOT after every workout.



Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
Fair enough. Do you know the difference between power and strength?

P0WER IS A C0MB0 0F STRENGTH AND SPEED. 0LYMPIC LIFTERS USE  STRENGTH AT A FAST RATE.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 07:40:07 PM
Did I said that?  ::)

You said  "IT'S INCREASING THE WEIGHT AND TRYING T0 D0 M0RE THEN WHAT Y0U DID LAST TIME" . That's not right in my experience. I tried it I had a notebook with the number of series, reps and poundages lol. Sorry, I gained strength but did nothing for muscle, infact I think I lost muscle I'm not joking. My diet was in check btw.

But in the long run yes you need to lift heavier weights, but NOT after every workout.






IN THE L0NG RUN 0VER TIME W0ULD BE M0RE ACCURATE.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
I give up.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: SF1900 on October 07, 2011, 08:14:15 PM
I give up.

coach, why do you give up? and what are you giving up on?  :-\ :-\ :'( :'(
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 08:19:19 PM
Don't feel like going over it with him.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2011, 08:34:07 PM
You do realize that olympic lifts are explosive lifts and usually done FIRST in the program then SUPPLEMENTAL lifts are done second......right? The key word is SUPPLEMENTAL and on a certain day during a usual program they might incorporate an hypertrophy day.

;D

seriously I don't know why people argue with you about training methods
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 08:35:24 PM
;D

seriously I don't know why people argue with you about training methods

I REALLY WASN'T ARGUING AND HE STARTED TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS HAVE HUGE LEGS AND TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND D0 N0T G0 0VER THESE REP RANGES YET HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS EVEN SURPASSING PR0S AND AMATEUR BBBERS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: WillGrant on October 07, 2011, 08:36:44 PM
You do realize that olympic lifts are explosive lifts and usually done FIRST in the program then SUPPLEMENTAL lifts are done second......right? The key word is SUPPLEMENTAL and on a certain day during a usual program they might incorporate an hypertrophy day.
End thread
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
I REALLY WASN'T ARGUING AND HE STARTED TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS HAVE HUGE LEGS AND TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND D0 N0T G0 0VER THESE REP RANGES YET HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS EVEN SURPASSING PR0S AND AMATEUR BBBERS.

none of the olympic lifter I know train specificly in the 1-3 rep range

none
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
none of the olympic lifter I know train specificly in the 1-3 rep range

none

AND THIS IS WHY THE U.S. IS LAST PLACE IN 0LYMPIC LIFTING. I'VE SEEN TRAINING F00TAGE 0F THEM. THEY ALL D0 FR0NT AND BACK SQUATS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: WillGrant on October 07, 2011, 08:41:49 PM
I REALLY WASN'T ARGUING AND HE STARTED TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS HAVE HUGE LEGS AND TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND D0 N0T G0 0VER THESE REP RANGES YET HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS EVEN SURPASSING PR0S AND AMATEUR BBBERS.
Dummy - read the word SUPPLEMENTAL again.. they dont just sit there doing there lifts in the 1-3 range - theres more to there training than that -, they also peak for comps.. hypertrophy training is part of there full routines.

(http://i.imgur.com/UuItY.jpg)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Stavios on October 07, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
AND THIS IS WHY THE U.S. IS LAST PLACE IN 0LYMPIC LIFTING. I'VE SEEN TRAINING F00TAGE 0F THEM. THEY ALL D0 FR0NT AND BACK SQUATS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS.


I'm canadian

(even worst) ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: WillGrant on October 07, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
AND THIS IS WHY THE U.S. IS LAST PLACE IN 0LYMPIC LIFTING. I'VE SEEN TRAINING F00TAGE 0F THEM. THEY ALL D0 FR0NT AND BACK SQUATS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS.


You are either stupid or just a troll - now fuck off
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 08:43:10 PM
Dummy - read the word SUPPLEMENTAL again.. they dont just sit there doing there lifts in the 1-3 range - theres more to there training than that -, they also peak for comps.. hypertrophy training is part of there full routines.

(http://i.imgur.com/UuItY.jpg)

ACTUALLY THEY D0. Y0U STUPID FUCK. THEY D0N'T LIFT AB0VE THE 3 REP RANGE AND THE BULGARIANS D0N'T EVEN D0 ANY SUPPLEMENT LIFTS EXCEPT F0R THE FR0NT SQUAT. Y0U KN0W SHIT AB0UT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING AND THE WAY THEY TRAIN. AND L0L AT THEM D0ING HYPERTR0HPY W0RK. Y0U ARE 0NE STUPID S0N 0F A BITCH.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I'm canadian

(even worst) ;D

HERE ARE S0ME TRAINING CLIPS 0F H0W THEY TRAIN. N0TICE IN THE FR0NT SQUATS THEY NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS. MY GRANDMA'S NEPHEW WAS A T0P LEVEL S0VIET LIFTER AND CHAMPI0N 0F HIS REPUBLIC. HE T0LD ME THE S0VIET SYSTEM AND THEY NEVER DID SQUATS HIGHER THAN 3 REPS. AND F0R THAT IMBELICE WILLGRANT, YES THEY D0 TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE F0R H0URS AND H0URS.





Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 07, 2011, 08:59:19 PM
why do you call people imbecile, idiot, etc, is this your first time on an internet forum, calm the fuck down you lying steroid user lol
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 09:03:20 PM
why do you call people imbecile, idiot, etc, is this your first time on an internet forum, calm the fuck down you lying steroid user lol

GETTING ACCUSED 0F R0IDING WHILE BEING CLEAN IS A C0MPLIMENT THAT I'LL TAKE FR0M THE B0TT0M 0F MY HEART. APPLY85 Y0U ARE MY B0ARD BITCH. I GET UNDER Y0UR SKIN AND GIVE Y0U SLEEPLESS NIGHTS AND Y0U KN0W IT. THIS IS WHY Y0U PASTE MY PICS AND MAKE THREADS AB0UT ME T0 0THERS IN THIS B0ARD AND RESP0ND T0 ME IN EVERY SINGLE P0ST I MAKE. IF I DIDN'T GET UNDER Y0UR SKIN, Y0U W0ULD N0T NEED T0 D0 THAT. N0T T00 MENTI0N Y0UR CUTE PETITE FRAME 0F 5 8 110 LBS PRE LIFTING. Y0U FIT THE DEFINTI0N 0F A PERFECT BITCH. Y0U MAKING THREADS AB0UT ME WAS Y0UR CALLING F0R HELP FR0M ME. LIKE A FISH IN PRIS0N TRYING T0 BREAK FREE AFTER BEING RAPED MULTIPLE TIMES.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 07, 2011, 09:20:01 PM
GETTING ACCUSED 0F R0IDING WHILE BEING CLEAN IS A C0MPLIMENT THAT I'LL TAKE FR0M THE B0TT0M 0F MY HEART. APPLY85 Y0U ARE MY B0ARD BITCH. I GET UNDER Y0UR SKIN AND GIVE Y0U SLEEPLESS NIGHTS AND Y0U KN0W IT. THIS IS WHY Y0U PASTE MY PICS AND MAKE THREADS AB0UT ME T0 0THERS IN THIS B0ARD AND RESP0ND T0 ME IN EVERY SINGLE P0ST I MAKE. IF I DIDN'T GET UNDER Y0UR SKIN, Y0U W0ULD N0T NEED T0 D0 THAT. N0T T00 MENTI0N Y0UR CUTE PETITE FRAME 0F 5 8 110 LBS PRE LIFTING. Y0U FIT THE DEFINTI0N 0F A PERFECT BITCH. Y0U MAKING THREADS AB0UT ME WAS Y0UR CALLING F0R HELP FR0M ME. LIKE A FISH IN PRIS0N TRYING T0 BREAK FREE AFTER BEING RAPED MULTIPLE TIMES.

lol... this is a good, you copy the language of a lot of posters, plenty of violent gay rape, exaggerated belittling of people's mental level, is this a symptom of steroid use? Take it easy on the tren buddy, and if you wanna call me your bitch, go read the thread I made about you, it's full of people making fun of you.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 09:21:58 PM
lol... this is a good, you copy the language of a lot of posters, plenty of violent gay rape, exaggerated belittling of people's mental level, is this a symptom of steroid use? Take it easy on the tren buddy, and if you wanna call me your bitch, go read the thread I made about you, it's full of people making fun of you.

5 8 110 LBS ACCUSING ME 0F R0IDING. S0 CUTE. MY NEW NAME F0R Y0U IS PETITE.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 07, 2011, 09:23:47 PM
5 8 110 LBS ACCUSING ME 0F R0IDING. S0 CUTE. MY NEW NAME F0R Y0U IS PETITE.

not as cute as your little o and 0 game
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 09:28:10 PM
not as cute

N0T AS CUTE BUT N0NTHELESS IT'S CUTE. I'M GLAD Y0U AGREE. G00D GIRL.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: dyslexic on October 07, 2011, 09:56:19 PM
I REALLY WASN'T ARGUING AND HE STARTED TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS HAVE HUGE LEGS AND TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND D0 N0T G0 0VER THESE REP RANGES YET HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS EVEN SURPASSING PR0S AND AMATEUR BBBERS.


You are attempting to make "blanket statements" on something that is for the most part "subjective" ~ nevertheless; the Power, Strength, Explosiveness and Hypertrophy are all in differing categories.

Have you NOT seen very, very strong powerlifters with rather small quads?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Viking11 on October 07, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Meaningless, I have grown off of 4 rep sets, and some that were 20. Its how hard you work it and push.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Yev33 on October 07, 2011, 10:10:36 PM
This is just fucking stupid, you need to train in a variety of rep ranges if you want MAXIMUM hypertrophy that your individual body can achieve.  You can grow your quads from squatting sets of 3 or sets of 20 . Now you can be a dogmatic dumbfuck, and pick one or the other. Or you can utilize both of them to get the most out of your training.

Assbruise you really are fucking moron.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:17:18 PM

You are attempting to make "blanket statements" on something that is for the most part "subjective" ~ nevertheless; the Power, Strength, Explosiveness and Hypertrophy are all in differing categories.

Have you NOT seen very, very strong powerlifters with rather small quads?

I'VE SEEN BBERS WITH SMALL QUADS T00. THERE ARE ALWAYS PE0PLE WITH BAD GENETICS. BUT I ASSURE Y0U, THEY ARE N0T SMALL IN PERS0N. I'M N0T MAKING BLANK STATEMENTS. MY WH0LE P0INT IS THAT  0NE CAN BUILD MASSIVE LEGS IN 1-3 REP RANGE. H0W HARD IS THAT T0 UNDERSTAND?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
This is just fucking stupid, you need to train in a variety of rep ranges if you want MAXIMUM hypertrophy that your individual body can achieve.  You can grow your quads from squatting sets of 3 or sets of 20 . Now you can be a dogmatic dumbfuck, and pick one or the other. Or you can utilize both of them to get the most out of your training.

Assbruise you really are fucking moron.

N0 Y0U D0N'T. THAT'S A MYTH THAT I ALREADY DISPELLED BY P0INTING 0UT THAT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS D0 N0T TRAIN IN VARI0US REP RANGES AND NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS IN THE SQUATS AND YET HAVE MASSIVE LEGS. EPIC FAIL 0N Y0UR PART. H0LY SHIT Y0U GUYS ARE STUPID. IT'S LIKE TALKING T0 A T0DDLER AND REPEATING THE SAME THING 10 TIMES ALL 0VER AGAIN.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:20:20 PM
Meaningless, I have grown off of 4 rep sets, and some that were 20. Its how hard you work it and push.

I NEVER SAID Y0U CAN'T GR0W 0FF 20. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THE REP RANGES ARE MEANINGLESS AND THERE IS N0 MAGICAL REP RANGE F0R GR0WTH. IT'S A MYTH AND 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS AND THEIR LEGS ARE AN EXAMPLE 0F THAT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Yev33 on October 07, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
Dumb fuck, when you can squat 315 ATG for 20 let all of us know where your legs are at.
Plenty of people  involved in BB and strength and conditioning will tell, you that.

Now get to work instead of starting ignorant threads.

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:31:55 PM
Dumb fuck, when you can squat 315 ATG for 20 let all of us know where your legs are at.
Plenty of people  involved in BB and strength and conditioning will tell, you that.

Now get to work instead of starting ignorant threads.



WHERE DID I SAY THAT Y0U CAN'T BUILD BIG LEGS D0ING 20 REPS? Y0U 0BVI0USLY HAVE THE READING SKILLS 0F A T0DDLER. Y0U DID N0T UNDERSTAND A SINGLE W0RD I SAID AND AFTER 3 PAGES Y0U STILL D0N'T KN0W THE P0INT 0F MY THREAD IS. N0W GFT0 0UT 0F MY THREAD. THANKS  ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Hanuman on October 07, 2011, 10:34:04 PM

SIGH. THEY STILL NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS 0N TH0SE SUPPLEMENT LIFTS SUCH AS SQUATS AND FR0NT SQUATS. IN FACT, THE BULGARIAN TEAM N0 L0NGER D0ES BACK SQUATS. THEY 0NLY SUPPLEMENT LIFT THEY D0 IS THE FR0NT SQUAT. REGARDLESS, DID Y0U EVEN READ MY P0ST? BECAUSE Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT S0METHING C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT. BY THE WAY 0LYMPIC LIFTS ARE N0T ALL P0WER. IT TAKES AN EN0RM0US AM0UNT 0F STRENGTH T0 CLEAN AND JERK 2-3 TIMES Y0UR B0DYWEIGHT.


the bulgarian team no longer does back squats lol
your are either a troll or an idiot,

the bulgarians, like every other team in the world, squat both front and back
maybe all they do is steps ups, right?  like that article from dynamic eleiko claimed a few years ago?
nice trolling job, btw, very suckmymusle-like or whatever that guys name is lol
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Yev33 on October 07, 2011, 10:37:49 PM
And where did I say that you can't build legs from 3 rep sets?

Once again, this time in all caps: F0R MAXIMUM DEVEL0PMENT Y0U HAVE T0 UTILIZE A VARIETY OF REP RANGES.

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:45:05 PM

the bulgarian team no longer does back squats lol
your are either a troll or an idiot,

the bulgarians, like every other team in the world, squat both front and back
maybe all they do is steps ups, right?  like that article from dynamic eleiko claimed a few years ago?
nice trolling job, btw, very suckmymusle-like or whatever that guys name is lol


IT'S 0BVI0US THAT Y0U KN0W VERY LITTLE AB0UT WEIGHTLIFTING AND BULGARIAN METH0D AND IT'S EV0LUTI0N 0VER THE YEARS BY C0ACH ABAJIEV. I'VE SEEN SEMINARS AND INTERVIEWS WITH HIM AND THEY ST0PPED D0ING BACK SQUATS. THEY USED T0 D0 BACK SQUATS BUT THEN ELIMINATED THEM DURING THE PEAK 0F THE BULGARIAN D0MINANCE.

In 1969 when Abadjiev took over as national coach, the team used 19 exercises in their training. Over the next 20 years, as he continually adapted his program, exercises were progressively discarded until 1986 when his lifters performed just 5 (Snatch, Power Snatch, Clean and Jerk, Power Clean and Front Squat) and exclusively for single repetitions. Throughout this period the team's results in International competition continued to improve and Bulgaria became the top weightlifting nation in the world.

Popular weightlifting 'assistance exercises' such as pulls, deadlifts and back squats were discarded because their movement path and speed of execution does not exactly mirror that used in the competition lifts. Abadjiev states that all available adaptation energy must be committed to exercises with the greatest cross over (i.e. snatch, clean + jerk and front squat!).

 C0NSIDER Y0URSELF 0WNED.  ;)

http://weightliftingexchange.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=438&Itemid=60

Additionally, these popular assistance exercises are often performed with loads exceeding those possible in the competition lifts, and for multiple repetitions. This type of training causes substantial skeletal and central nervous system fatigue that reduces the quality of future workouts.

The value of step-ups and stationary lunges for weightlifters. The Bulgarian national team did not perform special leg exercise such as step-ups and lunges with the rear foot elevated. “The squat was the fundamental exercise. When one Bulgarian lifter had wrist surgery and could not do the lifts, he was instructed to squat eight times a day and yet he still made exceptional progress in this exercise.” Krychev also says that squats of higher reps, such as 5 or 10, “are counterproductive for the development of a weightlifter.”


N0T 0NLY THIS BUT THE M0ST D0MINANT TEAM IN THE HIST0RY 0F 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING WITH SHATTERING REC0RDS NEVER DID MULTIPLE REPITI0NS AS S0ME 0F Y0U M0R0NS CLAIMED THEY D0. H0LY SHIT THIS IS 0NE 0F  THE BIGGEST 0WNAGES IN GETBIG HIST0RY. ASBRUS SINGLE HANDIDLY DESTR0YS THE TR0LLS AND M0R0NS IN THIS THREAD.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
And where did I say that you can't build legs from 3 rep sets?

Once again, this time in all caps: F0R MAXIMUM DEVEL0PMENT Y0U HAVE T0 UTILIZE A VARIETY OF REP RANGES.



N0 Y0U D0N'T. L00K AT S0ME 0F THE 0LY LIFTERS QUADS AND D0N'T TELL ME THAT'S N0T MAXIMUM DEVEL0PMENT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Yev33 on October 07, 2011, 10:49:54 PM
My god, you really are a fucking moron.

Next week you will see a video of an olympic speed skater, and start a thread about doing only high reps.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 10:54:12 PM
My god, you really are a fucking moron.

Next week you will see a video of an olympic speed skater, and start a thread about doing only high reps

THE 0NLY M0R0N IN THIS THREAD IS Y0U AND Y0U'RE 0FF T0PIC. UMM N0 I NEVER SAID T0 D0 0NLY L0W REPS 0R HIGH REPS. I SAID THAT F0R MASSIVE LEGS 0NE D0SEN'T NEED T0 D0 6-10 REPS BUT CAN BUILD HUGE LEGS WITH 1-3 REPS. IT'S VERY SIMPLE ACTUALLY BUT SINCE Y0U HAVE DYSLEXIA Y0U'RE HAVING TR0UBLE GETTING IT. HENCE THE TITLE THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Yev33 on October 07, 2011, 11:02:13 PM
Wow, at this point you clearly just want to have the last word.

So go ahead and type another response so that your 7yr old mentality feels a sense of accomplishment.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
Wow, at this point you clearly just want to have the last word.

So go ahead and type another response so that your 7yr old mentality feels a sense of accomplishment.

TYPICAL RESP0NSE FR0M S0ME0NE THAT JUST G0T 0WNED. BY THE WAY, Y0U STILL D0N'T KN0W WHAT THIS THREAD IS AB0UT EVIDENT BY Y0UR P0STS 0F USING DIFFERENT REP RANGES F0R MAXIMUM DEVEL0PMENT WHICH HAS ABS0LUTELY N0THING T0 D0 WITH MY THREAD 0R MY P0INT. S0 Y0U CAN JUST GFT0 N0W.  :)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Dorian01 on October 07, 2011, 11:08:49 PM
For the final word on rep ranges, check out the new Flex magazine featuring Phil Heath on the cover. You'll thank me later, bro.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: WillGrant on October 07, 2011, 11:29:09 PM
ASSBRUISE JUST STOP - EACH POST YOU MAKE YOU LOOK EVEN MORE STUPID - THE ANSWER WAS GIVEN TO YOU ON THE FIRST PAGE - THERE IS NO DEBATE.

EACH OF YOUR POSTS ARE LIKE THIS - ASSBRUISE THE CAMERAMAN.

and turn those fucking caps off you thick cunt

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Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 11:31:55 PM
ASSBRUISE JUST STOP - EACH POST YOU MAKE YOU LOOK EVEN MORE STUPID - THE ANSWER WAS GIVEN TO YOU ON THE FIRST PAGE - THERE IS NO DEBATE.

EACH OF YOUR POSTS ARE LIKE THIS - ASSBRUISE THE CAMERAMAN.

and turn those fucking caps off you thick cunt

(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/epic-fail-photos-camera-man-fail.gif)

 L0L. ::)

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 11:34:03 PM
This thread still going on? I still see he doesn't get it.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 11:35:50 PM
This thread still going on? I still see he doesn't get it.

GET WHAT?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 11:37:07 PM
BY THE WAY ALTH0UGH C0MPLETLY IRRELEVANT IN THIS THREAD. N0T 0NLY DID I PR0VE THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS D0N'T G0 AB0VE 3 REPS D0ING SQUATS IN THIS THREAD AFTER P0STING TRAINING VIDS 0F DIFFERENT ATHLETES FR0M 3 DIFFERENT C0UNTRIES BUT I ALS0 PR0VIDED ARTICLES DISPELLING THE MYTH STARTED BY Y0U AND C0ACH THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS D0 MULTIPL REP RANGES. THIS WAS BRUTAL 0WNAGE AT IT'S BEST.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 11:45:15 PM
All due respect...you're an idiot. When they meant the development of an athlete they meant power development not hypertrophy. Besides, you STILL don't get what I'm getting at. Here's another question for you (I already gave you the hint) what do think "propels" the muscle to fire?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 07, 2011, 11:49:03 PM
All due respect...you're an idiot. When they meant the development of an athlete they meant power development not hypertrophy. Besides, you STILL don't get what I'm getting at. Here's another question for you (I already gave you the hint) what do think "propels" the muscle to fire?

C0ACH THIS IS C0MPLETLY IRRELVANT T0 MY THREAD AND S0 IS Y0UR QUESTI0N.  0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTERS DISPLAY MYF0BILLIAR HYPERTR0PHY AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS WITH0UT HIGH REP RANGES. THIS IS MY P0INT. MY WH0LE P0INT WAS THAT F0R MASS AND HYPERTR0PHY 0NE D0SEN'T NEED T0 G0 AB0VE 3 REPS EVIDENT BY 0LYMPIC ATHLETES.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Meso_z on October 07, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
You guys overthink stuff.

I dont, thats why I look a million bucks. (Groink mode on  ;D 8))

 :D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 11:55:07 PM
Sorry...but you do and yes, I know full well what hypertrophy is. I base 80% of my program designs on where, where and why I put exercises, sets and reps in the order I do. Its based on one thing (well actually 3) what do you think they are (fill in the blanks) ___ ______ _______
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 07, 2011, 11:56:32 PM
Problem is your making it to simplistic when it goes beyond what you think it is.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:01:37 AM
Problem is your making it to simplistic when it goes beyond what you think it is.

READ MY FIRST P0ST. I SAID THERE IS A MYTH THAT SAYS 0NE CANN0T BUILD AS MUCH MASS D0ING 1-3 REPS AND I PR0VED THAT THE0RY WR0NG ALREADY IN THIS THREAD BY SH0WING AND DISPLAYING 0LY LIFTERS WH0 NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS.

Y0U'RE SIMPLY C0NFUSED AND KN0W N0THING AB0UT 0LY LIFTING. THIS IS EVIDENT BY Y0U THINKING THAT 0LY LIFTERS D0 HIGH REP RANGES AND MULTIPLE SUPPLEMENTARY EXERCISES.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2011, 12:21:23 AM
Actually I do. O-lifts are usually the first thing in my programs. BTW, not everyone in olympic lifitng excludes supplemental lifts. You still need to answer my last question.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:27:27 AM
Actually I do. O-lifts are usually the first thing in my programs. BTW, not everyone in olympic lifitng excludes supplemental lifts. You still need to answer my last question.

READ THIS UNTIL Y0U GET IT.

THE BIGGEST MYTH THAT IS CIRCULATING AM0NG B0ARDS IS THAT 6-10 BUILDS MASS AND 3-5 BUILDS STRENGTH. YET 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AND THESE GUYS HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS IN TERMS 0F THEIR WEIGHT EVEN SURPASSING S0ME PR0 AND AMATEUR B0DYBUILDERS IN LEG SIZE AND THICKNESS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2011, 12:30:10 AM
If o-lifters dieted down like a bodybuilder you actually see that this thread was useless. Please answer my question.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: pillowtalk on October 08, 2011, 12:37:55 AM

Why are you yelling, BTW?

The 'o' on his keyboard is fucked, so HE HAS T0 TYPE IN UPPER CASE & USE THE ZER0 '0' INSTEAD OF BUYING A NEW KEYBOARD/LAPT0P.

This just goes toward backing up the claim that all GetBIG'ers, are mega-rich with a fleet of super-cars & super model fuck buddies  ;)

PT
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:39:35 AM
If o-lifters dieted down like a bodybuilder you actually see that this thread was useless. Please answer my question.

C0MPLETLY IRRELVANT T0 WHAT I SAID IN THE FIRST P0ST. WHETHER THEY C0MPETE IN BBING 0R N0T HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH IT. I WAS TALKING AB0UT L0WER REP RANGES BUILDING MASS. IF Y0U WANT T0 DWELL INT0 AN0THER T0PIC AS Y0U HAVE D0NE ALREADY THEY ARE VERY LEAN. THERE ARE WEIGHT CLASSES. AND THE 95 KGS AND BEL0W ARE EXTREMLY LEAN.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2011, 12:44:48 AM
Its bullshit. Low reps 1-3 build power with little hypertrophy. Sorry.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:50:31 AM
Its bullshit. Low reps 1-3 build power with little hypertrophy. Sorry.

AND YET 0LYMPIC LIFTERS AND THEIR QUADS........ WHICH SHIT 0N S0ME PR0S AND AMATEUR BBERS IN THE SAME WEIGHT CLASSES.

AND N0 THEY D0N'T D0 MULTIPLE REP RANGES. I'VE DISPELLED THAT SILLY N0TI0N WITH TRAINING VIDS AND ARTICLES. S0RRY C0ACH Y0U'VE BEEN 0WNED.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Meso_z on October 08, 2011, 01:33:03 AM
AND YET 0LYMPIC LIFTERS AND THEIR QUADS........ WHICH SHIT 0N S0ME PR0S AND AMATEUR BBERS IN THE SAME WEIGHT CLASSES.

AND N0 THEY D0N'T D0 MULTIPLE REP RANGES. I'VE DISPELLED THAT SILLY N0TI0N WITH TRAINING VIDS AND ARTICLES. S0RRY C0ACH Y0U'VE BEEN 0WNED.
Shut the fuck up.

Learn to respect those older than you and with higher knowledge on a subject.

You annoying shitstain.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: hangclean on October 08, 2011, 01:58:31 AM
AND YET 0LYMPIC LIFTERS AND THEIR QUADS........ WHICH SHIT 0N S0ME PR0S AND AMATEUR BBERS IN THE SAME WEIGHT CLASSES.

AND N0 THEY D0N'T D0 MULTIPLE REP RANGES. I'VE DISPELLED THAT SILLY N0TI0N WITH TRAINING VIDS AND ARTICLES. S0RRY C0ACH Y0U'VE BEEN 0WNED.
They do high reps on their assistance work.......oh, you probably don't even know what assistance work is.....forget it.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: WillGrant on October 08, 2011, 03:07:10 AM
They do high reps on their assistance work.......oh, you probably don't even know what assistance work is.....forget it.
This was clearly pointed out to him on the first page - well if he knew wtf he was talking about he would of got it  :-\

Shut the fuck up.

Learn to respect those older than you and with higher knowledge on a subject.

You annoying shitstain.

This
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: _bruce_ on October 08, 2011, 04:06:06 AM
For the final word on rep ranges, check out the new Flex magazine featuring Phil Heath on the cover. You'll thank me later, bro.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: unrageable on October 08, 2011, 04:44:06 AM
Dummy - read the word SUPPLEMENTAL again.. they dont just sit there doing there lifts in the 1-3 range - theres more to there training than that -, they also peak for comps.. hypertrophy training is part of there full routines.

(http://i.imgur.com/UuItY.jpg)
cute dogs.  should have put a retarded face on the dog though.  those dogs shit on assbrus.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 08:11:50 AM
They do high reps on their assistance work.......oh, you probably don't even know what assistance work is.....forget it.

Y0U JUST REPLIED T0 THE P0ST WHERE I SAID THEY D0N'T D0 MULTIPLE REP RANGES AND I'VE SH0WN IT WITH TRAINING VIDS AND ARTICLES. ALL THEIR ASSISTANCE W0RK SUCH AS SQUATS WHICH ARE THE MAIN MASS BUILDERS F0R LEGS IN THEIR PR0GRAM STAY IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE. THEY D0 N0T D0 HIGH REPS. G0 T0 PAGE 3 AND LEARN. AND PE0PLE GET MAD AT ME WHEN I SAY S0ME GETBIGGERS ARE EXTREMELY STUPID. Y0U ARE AN EXAMPLE 0F THIS.

G0 T0 PAGE 3 AND READ P0ST #50 AND 67. IF Y0U CAN FIND IT THAT IS. I'LL BE VERY SURPRISED IF Y0U D0.  ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 08:13:35 AM
This was clearly pointed out to him on the first page - well if he knew wtf he was talking about he would of got it  :-\

This

WILL Y0U ARE LIKE A BLIND MAN WALKING WITH HIS D0G. I'VE ALREADY T0LD Y0U, THEY D0N'T D0 HIGH REPS AND THEIR ASSISTANCE W0RK SUCH AS SQUATS STAY IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE. THE BULGARIANS D0N'T EVEN D0 ASSISTANCE W0RK WITH THE EXCEPTI0N 0F THE FR0NT SQUAT. Y0U'VE PR0VEN T0 ME Y0U'RE EVEN DUMBER THAN I TH0UGHT. AT THIS P0INT I H0PE Y0U'RE TR0LLING ME BECAUSE IF N0T IT'S A SAD DAY F0R GETBIG AND HUMANITY.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 08:17:53 AM
Y0U FAGG0TS ARE S0 FUNNY EVEN WHEN I'VE PR0VEN T0 Y0U ALL THAT THEY STAY IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND SH0WN Y0U EVIDENCE 0F IT Y0U ALL STILL INSIST THAT 0LY LIFTERS D0 HIGH REP RANGES IN THEIR ASSISTANCE W0RK.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Jaime on October 08, 2011, 08:42:00 AM
Y0U FAGG0TS ARE S0 FUNNY EVEN WHEN I'VE PR0VEN T0 Y0U ALL THAT THEY STAY IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND SH0WN Y0U EVIDENCE 0F IT Y0U ALL STILL INSIST THAT 0LY LIFTERS D0 HIGH REP RANGES IN THEIR ASSISTANCE W0RK.


I agree with you bro. You have to take other criteria in to accoint thoigh such as training frequency.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
I thought olympic lifters train legs like almost everyday though.

not like they train legs once a week like a bodybuilder, do 3 reps and wait 7 days till they do another session filled with a massive couple of reps. they are conditioned enough to cop a beating everyday, which also plays a major role in leg size.

want to train legs only once a week? you better FUCK!!! and i mean fuck! them up in that once a week that you do so and that means rep ranges from all over the globe in that 1 hour you are there.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 11:07:28 AM
.......and heres something else also...diet down an olympic weightlifter to the same stage ready bf% as a bodybuilder. you'll notice a couple of things - lots of muscle mass disappear into thin air and most importantly, overall development of the heads of the quads are not all there because of lack of fibres being hit with different rep ranges. femoris, lateral head and tear drop/medial head are NOTHING!!! like a bodybuilder who atttacks all fibres with all rep ranges!

this thread is so fucken fail its unbelievable
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 11:22:25 AM
.......and heres something else also...diet down an olympic weightlifter to the same stage ready bf% as a bodybuilder. you'll notice a couple of things - lots of muscle mass disappear into thin air and most importantly, overall development of the heads of the quads are not all there because of lack of fibres being hit with different rep ranges. femoris, lateral head and tear drop/medial head are NOTHING!!! like a bodybuilder who atttacks all fibres with all rep ranges!

this thread is so fucken fail its unbelievable

0H YES.  THIS THREAD WAS SURELY AB0UT H0W AN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER W0ULD D0 0N STAGE AGAINST A B0DYBUILDER WHEN HE'S DIETED D0WN AND DEHYDRATED.  ::)

Y0UR READING C0MPREHENSI0N IS THAT 0F A 3RD GRADER. AND T0 P0INT 0UT H0W LITTLE Y0U KN0W AB0UT 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING. THE GUYS BEL0W 105 KGS ARE EXTREMLY LEAN AS THEY NEED T0 MAKE WEIGHT. 0N T0P 0F BEING SINGLE DIGIT B0DY FAT THEY ALS0  CUT WATER WEIGHT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Xerxes on October 08, 2011, 11:23:56 AM
So much broscience in this thread, my head hurts

Why can you not refute asbrus in a logical manner?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 11:24:22 AM
I thought olympic lifters train legs like almost everyday though.

not like they train legs once a week like a bodybuilder, do 3 reps and wait 7 days till they do another session filled with a massive couple of reps. they are conditioned enough to cop a beating everyday, which also plays a major role in leg size.

want to train legs only once a week? you better FUCK!!! and i mean fuck! them up in that once a week that you do so and that means rep ranges from all over the globe in that 1 hour you are there.

C0MPLETLY IRRELVANT. I MADE THIS THREAD T0 P0INT 0UT THAT 0LYMPIC LIFTERS TRAIN IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS. N0 WHERE DID I MENTI0N H0W MANY TIMES A WEEK THEY TRAIN AND THEIR PERCENTGE W0RKL0ADS.  THAT'S A C0MPLETLY DIFFERENT T0PIC.

WHAT D0ES THIS HAVE T0 D0 WITH MY THREAD. 0H WAIT I'LL TELL Y0U N0THING. SECRET STACK Y0U ARE 0NE DUMB S0N 0F A BITCH. N0T GTF0 0UT 0F MY THREAD. THANKS  ;)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 11:25:41 AM

I agree with you bro. You have to take other criteria in to accoint thoigh such as training frequency.

I'M SURPRISED. Y0U'RE THE 0NLY GUY WH0 ACTUALLY UNDERST00D WHAT MY THREAD WAS AB0UT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 08, 2011, 11:41:41 AM
asbrus, people are gonna call you delusional, but I'm gonna call you resilient, even though you're kinda stupid for arguing with coach about training because he's probably contributed to the development of a few olympic athletes, but I like your fortitude. Ur still a liar and have smaller legs than me though I'm natural lol
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
asbrus, people are gonna call you delusional, but I'm gonna call you resilient, even though you're kinda stupid for arguing with coach about training because he's probably contributed to the development of a few olympic athletes, but I like your fortitude. Ur still a liar and have smaller legs than me though I'm natural lol

THAT'S IMP0SSIBLE. N0 0NE HAS SMALLER LEGS THAN Y0U AT Y0UR PETITE BUILD.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 11:52:16 AM
0H YES.  THIS THREAD WAS SURELY AB0UT H0W AN 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER W0ULD D0 0N STAGE AGAINST A B0DYBUILDER WHEN HE'S DIETED D0WN AND DEHYDRATED.  ::)

well...of course it isnt exactly, but the comparison still stands in that both at a single digit bf%, one would show a greater development than the other. anyone can get what was meant here. not you?

it is about muscle being built, right? or just bloofy poofy leg swelling from doing 3 rep squats everyday?

whats underneath the skin? which is where my argument stands in bringing down these guys to the same bf% as a stage ready bodybuilder...that there is NO comparison in leg development.

your ass is so much more bruised after the raping it has been receiving in this thread.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 08, 2011, 11:53:41 AM
I have quite big thighs, I weigh 140 now so not that small. For instance I'm wearing 29 inch waist pants right now, and I can fit 3 fingers in the between the pants and my waist, but it's my thighs and ass that hold up the pants. On the thighs my pants are skin tight.

What I was gonna say is that the reason olympic lifters do 1-3 rep exercises is they are practicing what they are gonna do to win the gold medal, which is to lift the greatest amount of weight possible. THey are just practicing, trying to get their movments to be efficient which will help to get that weight up, but the muscle growth and strength most likely comes from when they are doing lower weight exercises. I mean, this is my experience in the gym, when I was getting back into shape I could do only a couple pull ups, but by doing close grip pull downs with much less weight than my body weight, I could do 8-10 pull ups when I went back to the pull up bar. Was I doing less weight but it improved my strength in pull ups, the chance of olympic lifters ONLY doing 1-3 reps on their exercises is 0 on any lift, that is such a dumb idea
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 11:57:37 AM
I have quite big thighs, I weigh 140 now so not that small. For instance I'm wearing 29 inch waist pants right now, and I can fit 3 fingers in the between the pants and my waist, but it's my thighs and ass that hold up the pants. On the thighs my pants are skin tight.

What I was gonna say is that the reason olympic lifters do 1-3 rep exercises is they are practicing what they are gonna do to win the gold medal, which is to lift the greatest amount of weight possible. THey are just practicing, trying to get their movments to be efficient which will help to get that weight up, but the muscle growth and strength most likely comes from when they are doing lower weight exercises. I mean, this is my experience in the gym, when I was getting back into shape I could do only a couple pull ups, but by doing close grip pull downs with much less weight than my body weight, I could do 8-10 pull ups when I went back to the pull up bar. Was I doing less weight but it improved my strength in pull ups, the chance of olympic lifters ONLY doing 1-3 reps on their exercises is 0 on any lift, that is such a dumb idea

N0 THEY NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AS I HAVE PR0VEN IN THIS THREAD AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
I have quite big thighs, I weigh 140 now so not that small. For instance I'm wearing 29 inch waist pants right now, and I can fit 3 fingers in the between the pants and my waist, but it's my thighs and ass that hold up the pants. On the thighs my pants are skin tight.

Trust me, 140 lbs is not only small, it's tiny. Of course if you are only three feet tall, you might be a well-built midget. I remember weighing 140 a thousand years ago when I was a teenager. I was a totally skinny twink at 5'11". Having a horse and riding everyday built up my thighs a bit too. You'll probably outgrow this condition in a couple of years.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 12:01:57 PM
N0 THEY NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AS I HAVE PR0VEN IN THIS THREAD AND HAVE MASSIVE LEGS.

show me a pic of someone you can PROVE ONLY does 3 reps and has better development than that of someone who targets all fibres with a wide range of rep ranges.

you see the word "legs" isn't just 2 round things below the waist in this sport/cult, assbruise. it is about the devleopment of the muscle UDNERNEATH the skin - the femoris, the lateral head and the medial head.

show us...
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:02:54 PM
well...of course it isnt exactly, but the comparison still stands in that both at a single digit bf%, one would show a greater development than the other. anyone can get what was meant here. not you?

it is about muscle being built, right? or just bloofy poofy leg swelling from doing 3 rep squats everyday?

whats underneath the skin? which is where my argument stands in bringing down these guys to the same bf% as a stage ready bodybuilder...that there is NO comparison in leg development.

your ass is so much more bruised after the raping it has been receiving in this thread.


THIS PR0VES H0W DUMB Y0U ARE. IN THE B0LD Y0U ARE IMPLYING THAT MUSCLE IS N0T BUILT BUT RATHER A BL00FY P00F LEG FR0M SWELLING? BR0SCIENCE 101 AT IT'S BEST. AND I'VE ALREADY T0LD Y0U BEL0W 105 KGS THEY ARE VERY LEAN AND EVEN CUT WATER WEIGHT T0 MAKE WEIGHT.


S0ME WILL AND S0ME W0N'T. THERE ARE 0LYMPIC LIFTERS THAT HAVE AMAZING QUADS AND BBERS THAT HAVE SHITTY QUADS. EVEN 0FF SEAS0N A L0T 0F AMATEURS LACK THE SIZE THICKNESS 0F A LEAN 0LYMPIC LIFTER IN THE SAME WEIGHT CLASS. BUT AGAIN IRRELVANT T0 MY THREAD AS I WASN'T P0INTING 0UT H0W THEY W0ULD L00K 0N STAGE AGAINST A T0P PR0 BBER DIETED D0WN.

NICE TRY TH0UGH 0N TR0LLING 0NCE AGAIN AND CHANGING THE SUBJECT 0F THIS THREAD T0 H0W WELL WILL AN 0LYMPIC LIFTER D0 0N A BBING STAGE. LMA0.


Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:04:15 PM
Trust me, 140 lbs is not only small, it's tiny. Of course if you are only three feet tall, you might be a well-built midget. I remember weighing 140 a thousand years ago when I was a teenager. I was a totally skinny twink at 5'11". Having a horse and riding everyday built up my thighs a bit too. You'll probably outgrow this condition in a couple of years.

THIS IS LIKE SAYING THERE'S A MIDGET WITH A BIG C0CK BUT IT'S 0NLY 3 INCHES. YES IT'S BIG F0R A MIDGET BUT STILL VERY TINY T0 THE AVERAGE PERS0N. HE W0N'T 0UT GR0W IT. HE SAID HE STARTED AT 5 8 110 LBS. TH0SE WERE HIS PRE LIFTING STATS. THESE ARE S0ME 0F THE W0RST GENETICS 0N PLANET EARTH.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:07:20 PM
show me a pic of someone you can PROVE ONLY does 3 reps and has better development than that of someone who targets all fibres with a wide range of rep ranges.

you see the word "legs" isn't just 2 round things below the waist in this sport/cult, assbruise. it is about the devleopment of the muscle UDNERNEATH the skin - the femoris, the lateral head and the medial head.

show us...

IN MY FIRST P0ST I SAID SURPASSING S0ME AMATEURS AND PR0S. N0 WHERE DID I SAY THEY W0ULD HAVE BETTER DEVEL0PMENT THAN ALL PR0S.  BUT AGAIN MY P0INT WAS THAT 1-3 REPS Y0U CAN BUILD MASS AND GREAT LEGS. EVERY LEAN 185 LBER W0ULD L0VE T0 HAVE PYRR0S WHEELS.

THE SIZE 0F S0ME PR0S HAS N0THING T0 D0 WITH THE REP RANGES BUT THAT PR0 BBERS AND AMATEURS TAKE MUCH LARGE D0SES 0F STER0IDS, GH, AND 0N T0P 0F THAT INSULIN. THIS EXPLAINS WHY THEY CAN STILL SQUAT THEIR B0DY WEIGHT AND GR0W MASSIVE LEGS.  S0 IF ANY0NE HAS THE BL00FY L00K FR0M THEIR LEGS WHICH WILL SHRINK AFTER A M0NTH 0F DECREASING THE D0SAGES IT'S A PR0 BBER AS HAS BEEN ALREADY PR0VEN BEF0RE WITH MANY PR0S WH0 G0 0FF AND SHRINK T0 N0THING.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: dyslexic on October 08, 2011, 12:09:05 PM
You've still got less than a thousand posts...


It would be great if we could stop reading "Assbruise" for the rest of your internship here.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Meso_z on October 08, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
I have quite big thighs, I weigh 140 now so not that small. For instance I'm wearing 29 inch waist pants right now, and I can fit 3 fingers in the between the pants and my waist, but it's my thighs and ass that hold up the pants. On the thighs my pants are skin tight.

What I was gonna say is that the reason olympic lifters do 1-3 rep exercises is they are practicing what they are gonna do to win the gold medal, which is to lift the greatest amount of weight possible. THey are just practicing, trying to get their movments to be efficient which will help to get that weight up, but the muscle growth and strength most likely comes from when they are doing lower weight exercises. I mean, this is my experience in the gym, when I was getting back into shape I could do only a couple pull ups, but by doing close grip pull downs with much less weight than my body weight, I could do 8-10 pull ups when I went back to the pull up bar. Was I doing less weight but it improved my strength in pull ups, the chance of olympic lifters ONLY doing 1-3 reps on their exercises is 0 on any lift, that is such a dumb idea
140? whats your height if you dont mind?
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: dyslexic on October 08, 2011, 12:13:54 PM
MY WH0LE P0INT IS THAT  0NE CAN BUILD MASSIVE LEGS IN 1-3 REP RANGE. H0W HARD IS THAT T0 UNDERSTAND?


O.K. then. Why not just say so?


Now you can start an experiment and show us all how you do. Not difficult to understand "before and after" pics.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 12:14:10 PM
IN MY FIRST P0ST I SAID SURPASSING S0ME AMATEURS AND PR0S. N0 WHERE DID I SAY THEY W0ULD HAVE BETTER DEVEL0PMENT THAN ALL PR0S.  BUT AGAIN MY P0INT WAS THAT 1-3 REPS Y0U CAN BUILD MASS AND GREAT LEGS. EVERY LEAN 185 LBER W0ULD L0VE T0 HAVE PYRR0S WHEELS.

aaah, and so the realization starts to set in now.  ;)

diet down ANYONE of your bulgarian 3 rep army and i'll show you what muscle was built underneath those "massive legs" by sticking to and ONLY sticking to nothing beyond 3 reps.

oh no! i used the word "diet". now he thinks i am "challenging" an olympic lifter to a stage match with a bodybuilder FFS...
call it "peel away the water, skin and fat" then!  ::)

bruise on the ass just got blacker...
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:16:40 PM
aaah, and so the realization starts to set in now.  ;)

diet down ANYONE of your bulgarian 3 rep army and i'll show you what muscle was built underneath those "massive legs" by sticking to and ONLY sticking to nothing beyond 3 reps.

oh no! i used the word "diet". now he thinks i am "challenging" an olympic lifter to a stage match with a bodybuilder FFS...
call it "peel away the water, skin and fat" then!  ::)

bruise on the ass just got blacker...

L0L AFTER 5 PAGES Y0U FINALLY G0T IT. SIGH Y0U ARE S0 THICK I'VE ALREADY SAID IT 3 TIMES THAT BEL0W 105 KGS THEY ARE JUST AS LEAN AS 0FF SEAS0N PR0S AND AMATEURS AS THEY NEED T0 MAKE WEIGHT AND 0N T0P 0F THAT CUT WATER WEIGHT. T0P LIFTERS BEL0W 105 KGS ARE ALL SINGLE DIGIT B0DY FAT.

SINGLE DIGIT 0LY LIFTERS WITH MASSIVE QUADS NEVER G0ING AB0VE 3 REPS.


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0P9ZTV_V4eE/TQBBYNCrTgI/AAAAAAAAAAM/WvXxhZmP_cI/s1600/1410872951_27bc2c3002.jpg)

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 08, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but o-lifters are not that big, and please don't post me a pic of a super heavy weight o-lifter.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:19:54 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but o-lifters are not that big, and please don't post me a pic of a super heavy weight o-lifter.

C0ACH THE GUYS BEL0W 105 KGS HAVE EXTREMLY LARGE LEGS F0R THEIR SIZE AND NEVER TRAIN AB0VE 3 REPS. THIS IS A FACT. THERE'S REALLY N0THING T0 DEBATE HERE.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 12:20:06 PM
SIGH Y0U ARE S0 THICK I'VE ALREADY SAID IT 3 TIMES THAT BEL0W 105 KGS THEY ARE JUST AS LEAN AS 0FF SEAS0N PR0S AND AMATEURS AS THEY NEED T0 MAKE WEIGHT AND 0N T0P 0F THAT CUT WATER WEIGHT. T0P LIFTERS BEL0W 105 KGS ARE ALL SINGLE DIGIT B0DY FAT.

well then post a pic of someone that trains no more than 3 reps for legs and show me how fully developed the 3 main heads of the quad are. post a pic of what someone training ONLY 3 reps looks like...you obviously have seen the pics to be talking about them, so post them up..."sigh"  ::)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 08, 2011, 12:21:15 PM
I am 5'8 140, like 9-10% bodyfat, not a big guy, I am 100% natural except for ephedrine, but I look bigger than this. Reason I weigh this much is I have a small waist and thin bones in general, but I look pretty good. I was always the skinniest kid around, I dunno why, thyroid maybe, I don't look bad esp for someone who hardly works out the upper body because of shoulder problems
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Xerxes on October 08, 2011, 12:23:41 PM
I am 5'8 140, like 9-10% bodyfat, not a big guy, I am 100% natural except for ephedrine, but I look bigger than this. Reason I weigh this much is I have a small waist and thin bones in general, but I look pretty good. I was always the skinniest kid around, I dunno why, thyroid maybe, I don't look bad esp for someone who hardly works out the upper body because of shoulder problems

Sounds like you're my size
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
well then post a pic of someone that trains no more than 3 reps for legs and show me how fully developed the 3 main heads of the quad are. post a pic of what someone training ONLY 3 reps looks like...you obviously have seen the pics to be talking about them, so post them up..."sigh"  ::)

THERE ARE T0NS 0F VIDS AND PICS 0F 0LY LIFTERS. EVERY0NE KN0WS THEY MASSIVE LEGS. WHY WASTE TIME P0STING VIDS T0 A RETARD WH0 STILL HAS N0 IDEA WHAT THIS THREAD AB0UT 0F S0METHING ANY0NE CAN SEE? AGAIN THERE IS REALLY N0 DEBATE HERE. MY P0INT WAS THAT 0NE CAN BUILD MASSIVE LEGS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE EVIDENT BY 0LY LIFTERS WH0 TRAIN THIS WAY AND YES IT IS MUSCLE. MUCH M0RE THAN Y0UR R0IDED UP BBER WITH 30 IUS 0F INSULIN AND GH. SECRET STACK AFTER 6 PAGES Y0U STILL HAVE N0 FUCKING IDEA WHAT THE P0INT 0F THIS THREAD WAS.

Y0U'RE C0MPARING THE LEG DEVEL0PMENT 0F A BBER AND AN 0LY LIFTER. WHY CAN'T Y0U UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS N0T WHAT THIS THREAD WAS AB0UT? THE P0INT WAS Y0U CAN BUILT MASSIVE LEGS IN THE 1-3 REP RANGE AND N0 Y0U CAN'T IS0LATE A P0RTI0N 0F THE QUAD. THAT'S A MYTH. THE WH0LE MUSCLE FIRES. AND Y0U CANN0T SHAPE A MUSCLE BY D0ING HIGHER REPS EITHER. THE SHAPE 0F THE QUADS IS DICTATED BY GENETICS. SIZE IS DICTATED BY TRAINING.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
WHY CAN'T Y0U UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS N0T WHAT THIS THREAD WAS AB0UT?

WHYYYYYY!!!!  :D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 08, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
I am 5'8 140, like 9-10% bodyfat, not a big guy, I am 100% natural except for ephedrine, but I look bigger than this. Reason I weigh this much is I have a small waist and thin bones in general, but I look pretty good. I was always the skinniest kid around, I dunno why, thyroid maybe, I don't look bad esp for someone who hardly works out the upper body because of shoulder problems
WOW even bigger ?           joke...
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE.

THE BIGGEST MYTH THAT IS CIRCULATING AM0NG B0ARDS IS THAT 6-10 BUILDS MASS AND 3-5 BUILDS STRENGTH. YET 0LYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTER NEVER G0 AB0VE 3 REPS AND THESE GUYS HAVE S0ME 0F THE BIGGEST LEGS IN TERMS 0F THEIR WEIGHT.

P0ST #1 F0R THE RETARDS WH0 CAN'T READ LED BY SECRET STACK.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Secret Stack on October 08, 2011, 12:51:05 PM
SECRET STACK

SECRET STACK

SECRET STACK.

SECRET STAAAAAACK!! DAMN YOUUUUU!!  :'(

 :D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 08, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
WOW even bigger ?           joke...

as hard as it is to believ elol
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: unrageable on October 08, 2011, 12:54:58 PM
asbrus need stop the cycle b4 his head explodes  :-X
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: tbombz on October 08, 2011, 12:58:04 PM
I weigh 140 now so not that small.
hahahahahha

oh brother


 ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: BB on October 08, 2011, 01:52:07 PM
For those that have more than a passing interest in OL training, These two are good books-

http://www.amazon.com/Science-Practice-Strength-Training-Second/dp/0736056289 .

http://www.amazon.com/Weightlifting-Encyclopedia-Guide-World-Performance/dp/0965917924/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318104326&sr=1-1

Plus the Everett and Kono books are excellent.

It's extremely myopic to say country x trains low reps exclusively, so x is right, it's like the Mentzer HIT people with their bull headedness.

As mentioned, the Russians, Chinese, etc...... all trained the ancillary lifts through a bit broader rep range sometimes, and if they need hypertropy, they used blocks of lifts that were closer to powerlifting or power bodybuilding. The Chinese are very famous for this now.

Also, you are only looking at a small piece of training time in a career that might be 15-20 years. For instance under the Russian system, the first three years when the lifters are pre-teens or so, are things like running, push ups, swimming, and other things just to get them fit. Next was technique and general strength work, etc..... for long blocks of time. As the lifter gets older much more time is given over to to singles, doubles, and triples in the main lifts. But there are loooooooong blocks of time where they were working in most rep ranges, excluding the really high ones. So their base was built with a much broader rep scheme.

Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 02:11:35 PM
hahahahahha

oh brother


 ;D

5 8 140. HEY IT'S AN IMPR0VEMENT FR0M 110 LBS.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: apply85 on October 08, 2011, 02:44:37 PM
damn straigh ;D
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: unrageable on October 08, 2011, 02:48:06 PM
asbrus only does 3 reps of shoulder press and BAM

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/28/22666121/profilepic/1AC33trkWUkwQIfj3Paufq0xfQ5jAL0546.jpeg)

well don't forget the hormones and dbol 2  8)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 02:51:26 PM
asbrus only does 3 reps of shoulder press and BAM

(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/28/22666121/profilepic/1AC33trkWUkwQIfj3Paufq0xfQ5jAL0546.jpeg)

well don't forget the hormones and dbol 2  8)

YES SURELY ANY0NE WH0 PUTS 0N 25 LBS 0F MUSCLE MUST BE R0IDING.  ::) W0W Y0U GUYS ARE S0 0BSESSED AND JEAL0US 0F ME THAT Y0U HAVE T0 FIND PICS 0F ME AND P0ST THEM HERE T0 TRY T0 PR0VE Y0UR FAILED P0INT. Y0U  JUST CAN'T BELIEVE S0ME0NE CAN L00K LIKE THIS AND BE NATURAL. BUT YET I AM. EVERYTIME I GET ACCUSED 0F R0IDING IT'S A C0MPLIMENT. N0T AN INSULT.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: tlc on October 08, 2011, 03:01:58 PM
ASBRUS YOU ARE GETTING FATTER, 10% BF IN THAT SIDE PIC DUDE, BEING GENEROUS. EAT FEWER PIES.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 03:03:25 PM
damn straigh ;D

S0 SINCE Y0U PUT 0N 30 LBS 0F MUSCLE Y0U MUST BE R0IDING.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: unrageable on October 08, 2011, 03:03:46 PM
it's dbol bloat not so much fat.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
ASBRUS YOU ARE GETTING FATTER, 10% BF IN THAT SIDE PIC DUDE, BEING GENEROUS. EAT FEWER PIES.

N0 I'M BEL0W 10. NICE TR0LL ATTEMPT TH0UGH.  ;)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 03:06:41 PM
it's dbol bloat not so much fat.

L0L. KEEP IT MAN. IT'S S0 FUNNY T0 HEAR Y0U SPEAK LIKE Y0U THINK Y0U KN0W WHAT Y0U'RE TALKING AB0UT WHEN IT C0MES T0 DRUGS WHEN Y0U'RE S0 WR0NG. I'M HAVING A BLAST WATCHING Y0U ACCUSE ME 0F R0IDING.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: tlc on October 08, 2011, 03:13:40 PM
BELOW 10% MY ARSE. YOUR SKINNY-FAT FOREARMS ARE PUDGY AS A TODDLERS. IT AINT WATER BLOAT, IT'S LARD.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 03:16:16 PM
BELOW 10% MY ARSE. YOUR SKINNY-FAT FOREARMS ARE PUDGY AS A TODDLERS. IT AINT WATER BLOAT, IT'S LARD.

L0L AT Y0U B0LDING THE 0 AND TRYING T0 ACT LIKE ME.
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: Primemuscle on October 08, 2011, 03:24:58 PM
L0L AT Y0U B0LDING THE 0 AND TRYING T0 ACT LIKE ME.

It's a fucking shame, isn't it? One of you doing this stupid shit is bad enough....we don't need a whole army of folks yelling and screaming!
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: flinstones1 on October 08, 2011, 08:36:59 PM
damn straigh ;D

140 pounds?  jesus somebody get this boy some anadrol and a gallon of milk fast:)
Title: Re: THE MYTH 0F REP RANGES AND HYPERTR0PHY
Post by: asbrus on October 08, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
I am 5'8 140, like 9-10% bodyfat, not a big guy, I am 100% natural except for ephedrine, but I look bigger than this. Reason I weigh this much is I have a small waist and thin bones in general, but I look pretty good. I was always the skinniest kid around, I dunno why, thyroid maybe, I don't look bad esp for someone who hardly works out the upper body because of shoulder problems

 Y0U'RE PATHETIC.