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Title: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Wiggs on October 31, 2011, 01:49:34 PM
Whats it all about?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: _bruce_ on October 31, 2011, 02:07:02 PM
No, but if I had to chose a form of religion this one would be it.
Read about it long time ago - it builds on the eternal life cycle or better escaping from it. A catch phrase is Karma which is also well understood in the west.
Hope there's someone on here who practiced itself and can enlighten us.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on October 31, 2011, 02:10:43 PM
wiggs what the hell are you on these days? what's up? you're what, 35? Way too young for a black man to calm down. You seem so mellow now days, where's the egoistic drama? and what happent to alex23?



Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: johnnynoname on October 31, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
yeah- I Buddhist

.....sometimes, I boo that
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Overload on October 31, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
No, but if I had to chose a form of religion this one would be it.
Read about it long time ago - it builds on the eternal life cycle or better escaping from it. A catch phrase is Karma which is also well understood in the west.
Hope there's someone on here who practiced itself and can enlighten us.

I agree.

I'm not into religion.  But if i had to choose one that is the least biased and tainted it would be fundamental Buddhism.

Read some stuff about it, it's interesting stuff.  My girlfriend is Buddhist and i know a shitload about it, but i don't care to relay it all and lack the time.


8)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on October 31, 2011, 02:27:33 PM
 My girlfriend is Buddhist


8)
My girlfriends a vegetarian ....................

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Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on October 31, 2011, 02:32:11 PM
lol at all these people being buddhists  ::). It's the same when a fat ass sayes he likes to do alot of cardio and burn fat.

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: johnnynoname on October 31, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
Boo this and Boo that

anyone?!

goodnight folks

Tip the Meal, Enjoy your Waitress
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Straw Man on October 31, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
Whats it all about?

nothing
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: farrellzach on October 31, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
yeah- I Buddhist

.....sometimes, I boo that

Best post in thread.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Wiggs on October 31, 2011, 03:09:19 PM
Boo this and Boo that

anyone?!

goodnight folks

Tip the Meal, Enjoy your Waitress

Don't ever do stand up and open your mouth...Just stand on stage say nothing...You'll get alot more laughs that way...Shouldnt you be jerking off in adult theaters right now Pee Wee?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: DK II on October 31, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
lol at all these people being buddhists  ::). It's the same when a fat ass sayes he likes to do alot of cardio and burn fat.



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: johnnynoname on October 31, 2011, 03:13:26 PM
.Shouldnt you be jerking off in adult theaters right now Pee Wee?

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Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: jmt1 on October 31, 2011, 03:15:30 PM
It's a nice way to live in certain aspects but the problem is that it is not a religion from God.

Technically they are polytheist and worship idols where as the 3 Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity (early pre-trinitarian Christianity) ,  all contain either the direct word of God or atleast God's inspired word that was later corrupted and changed by the hands of man.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: DK II on October 31, 2011, 03:19:22 PM
It's a nice way to live in certain aspects but the problem is that it is not a religion from God.

Technically they are polytheist and worship idols where as the 3 Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity (early pre-trinitarian Christianity) ,  all contain either the direct word of God or atleast God's inspired word that was later corrupted and changed by the hands of man.

funny thing is that in buddhism, even gods are slave to karma and will be reborn, albeit in different cycles than humans.

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on October 31, 2011, 03:20:44 PM
It's a nice way to live in certain aspects but the problem is that it is not a religion from God.

Technically they are polytheist and worship idols where as the 3 Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity (early pre-trinitarian Christianity) ,  all contain either the direct word of God or atleast God's inspired word that was later corrupted and changed by the hands of man.

QFT!

funny thing is that in buddhism, even gods are slave to karma and will be reborn, albeit in different cycles than humans.

It truly is funny as hell, all of it
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on October 31, 2011, 04:07:04 PM
I am a Buddhist,.....I live my life as a Buddhist but not in the strictest sense since in this day and age it would be really difficult to do so.....but I use Buddhist principles as a guide for daily living...this is it in a nutshell;..

Buddhists believe that human misery and unhappiness is caused by being attached to things...and that this attachment causes us to behave in ways which are mentally detrimental to ourselves and brings on unhappiness....for example....being so attached to a woman that her leaving would cause you to get angry, go into a depression, maybe even kill her (and wind up in prison), or kill yourself....we see this all the time....another example would be to be really attached to your car or other material possessions....what happens when you no longer have the car or it gets totalled???....again some go into depression....not getting a promotion you wanted....so you react by getting angry, maybe cursing out your boss, maybe you stop doing your best work..all of which could lead to you being fired....by not being so attached to "things" you avoid being thrown into a state of despair when you can't have those things or can never attain them...

it is emotionalism that makes us as humans do stupid things which then cause us even more misery....emotions get us into trouble....by detaching yourself from people and things and not making them so important you can approach life every day with a sense of well-being which enables you to make good rational decisions since emotion will play no part in your decision-making process....everything in moderation...too much of anything (sex, food, etc) is not healthy and can unbalance you as a person... you can love, have sex, eat, drink, whatever, but not to the point where it controls you and you then make poor decisions which get you in trouble....having sex all the time indiscriminately for example is great in theory but can lead to AIDS, or getting the wrong woman pregnant who will then make you miserable and kill you in child support...how many of our friends have we seen get caught up in this???..

As a Buddhist you have to practice mindfulness which means that you avoid having bad thoughts in your mind and you avoid negative feelings at all cost....you keep your mind clear all the time and you don't dwell on negativity..how do you do this???..every time a negative thought crosses your mind you must immediately recognize it and then stop thinking about it and banish it from your mind....thats the key...and by doing this constantly you begin to attain a state of  well being where nothing bothers you....your ultimate goal is to get to NIRVANA...this is attained after years of practicing mindfulness where you attain the ultimate bliss...nothing at all EVER bothers you and you are calm, serene, and content with yourself and with others at ALL TIMES no matter what they do....NIRVANA takes years to obtain where you never have negative thoughts or display any anger, or thoughts of depression, revenge, etc....it takes plenty of practice and is a daily struggle

you should not always be in a heightened state of elation either..since you will eventually crash emotionally ..it is basically keeping your emotions even..never going too high or too low because even being TOO happy can cause you to make poor decisions....if you start today, you won't attain NIRVANA for 10-15-20 years...but by starting now you put yourself on the path to Nirvana....that path is called THE WAY....NIRVANA is the ultimate heaven....you are peaceful with yourself and the world...you accept yourself, those around you, and you are happy because you have all that you need and you are not trying to attain things you will NEVER get..unlike your friends who are running around chasing dreams and are very unhappy that all their chasing is not accomplishing anything...

finally when at work there are rules that Buddhists follow so as to increase their chance of success and so as to not get themselves entangled in bad things....you cannot steal...not even a pencil or paper or paper clip..you cannot talk about your boss to other co-workers...you cannot gossip...you must say hello to everyone when you come in and goodbye when you are leaving so as to spread positive energy and not create misunderstandings....("that guy must not like me since he didn't say hello")..you must keep a clear desk without clutter so as to be organized and more productive...also you must meditate often to help clear your mind..

sorry for being so long-winded but this is it in a nutshell......this is only the psychological part of Buddhism....the religious part is more complicated...I don't practice that part of it because its just too strange...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on October 31, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
so how's being perfect going on with you philosophers and psychologists and man gods   ::)

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: oliolioli on October 31, 2011, 06:19:26 PM
I am a Buddhist,.....I live my life as a Buddhist but not in the strictest sense since in this day and age it would be really difficult to do so.....but I use Buddhist principles as a guide for daily living...this is it in a nutshell;..

Buddhists believe that human misery and unhappiness is caused by being attached to things...and that this attachment causes us to behave in ways which are mentally detrimental to ourselves and brings on unhappiness....for example....being so attached to a woman that her leaving would cause you to get angry, go into a depression, maybe even kill her (and wind up in prison), or kill yourself....we see this all the time....another example would be to be really attached to your car or other material possessions....what happens when you no longer have the car or it gets totalled???....again some go into depression....not getting a promotion you wanted....so you react by getting angry, maybe cursing out your boss, maybe you stop doing your best work..all of which could lead to you being fired....by not being so attached to "things" you avoid being thrown into a state of despair when you can't have those things or can never attain them...

it is emotionalism that makes us as humans do stupid things which then cause us even more misery....emotions get us into trouble....by detaching yourself from people and things and not making them so important you can approach life every day with a sense of well-being which enables you to make good rational decisions since emotion will play no part in your decision-making process....everything in moderation...too much of anything (sex, food, etc) is not healthy and can unbalance you as a person... you can love, have sex, eat, drink, whatever, but not to the point where it controls you and you then make poor decisions which get you in trouble....having sex all the time indiscriminately for example is great in theory but can lead to AIDS, or getting the wrong woman pregnant who will then make you miserable and kill you in child support...how many of our friends have we seen get caught up in this???..

As a Buddhist you have to practice mindfulness which means that you avoid having bad thoughts in your mind and you avoid negative feelings at all cost....you keep your mind clear all the time and you don't dwell on negativity..how do you do this???..every time a negative thought crosses your mind you must immediately recognize it and then stop thinking about it and banish it from your mind....thats the key...and by doing this constantly you begin to attain a state of  well being where nothing bothers you....your ultimate goal is to get to NIRVANA...this is attained after years of practicing mindfulness where you attain the ultimate bliss...nothing at all EVER bothers you and you are calm, serene, and content with yourself and with others at ALL TIMES no matter what they do....NIRVANA takes years to obtain where you never have negative thoughts or display any anger, or thoughts of depression, revenge, etc....it takes plenty of practice and is a daily struggle

you should not always be in a heightened state of elation either..since you will eventually crash emotionally ..it is basically keeping your emotions even..never going too high or too low because even being TOO happy can cause you to make poor decisions....if you start today, you won't attain NIRVANA for 10-15-20 years...but by starting now you put yourself on the path to Nirvana....that path is called THE WAY....NIRVANA is the ultimate heaven....you are peaceful with yourself and the world...you accept yourself, those around you, and you are happy because you have all that you need and you are not trying to attain things you will NEVER get..unlike your friends who are running around chasing dreams and are very unhappy that all their chasing is not accomplishing anything...

finally when at work there are rules that Buddhists follow so as to increase their chance of success and so as to not get themselves entangled in bad things....you cannot steal...not even a pencil or paper or paper clip..you cannot talk about your boss to other co-workers...you cannot gossip...you must say hello to everyone when you come in and goodbye when you are leaving so as to spread positive energy and not create misunderstandings....("that guy must not like me since he didn't say hello")..you must keep a clear desk without clutter so as to be organized and more productive...also you must meditate often to help clear your mind..

sorry for being so long-winded but this is it in a nutshell......this is only the psychological part of Buddhism....the religious part is more complicated...I don't practice that part of it because its just too strange...

Are you an SGI buddhist?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: kiwiol on October 31, 2011, 06:27:10 PM
Fatpanda was/is a Buddhist. Hence the reason he was always so calm and collected.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: el numero uno on October 31, 2011, 06:31:15 PM
Fatpanda was/is a Buddhist. Hence the reason he was always so calm and collected.

Does buddhism say you have to look like the guy you worship?  ???
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: berblexer on October 31, 2011, 06:32:10 PM
Does buddhism say you have to look like the guy you worship?  ???

hahahahahahahahahahahaha h
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: kiwiol on October 31, 2011, 06:34:22 PM
Does buddhism say you have to look like the guy you worship?  ???

LOL, if it did, Panda would look more like the Hulk than Buddha.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 31, 2011, 06:34:46 PM
Whats it all about?
Its about an idealistic notion that one day we can reach a Utopia and live happily ever after.  Just another nonsense philosophy.  There is no permanent salvation, happiness or any other of that shit.  Just a lifetime of grinding.  Thats it.  No big deal, so Man up and get on with it and forget about airy fairy ancient ideas.  It's 2011 man.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 31, 2011, 06:39:06 PM
I am a Buddhist,.....I live my life as a Buddhist but not in the strictest sense since in this day and age it would be really difficult to do so.....but I use Buddhist principles as a guide for daily living...this is it in a nutshell;..

Buddhists believe that human misery and unhappiness is caused by being attached to things

Thats the problem with buddhism, there is nothing wrong with attachment, their is nothing wrong with feeling despair when those things are gone.  This is human, buddhists are always wanting to escape reality and turn it into something it is not.  The fact is the world has and always be a hostile environment for life, and being a mung bean eating meditator just isolates people from living their life.  It is a lie that there is some type of enlightenment.  The sooner people face these facts, the sooner they can live a productive full life.  Religion just acts as a roadblock to the truth.  Hope this helps
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: berblexer on October 31, 2011, 06:43:09 PM
LOL, if it did, Panda would look more like the Hulk than Buddha.

And suckmymuscle would look like a Gorilla
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: el numero uno on October 31, 2011, 06:44:38 PM
LOL, if it did, Panda would look more like the Hulk than Buddha.

 ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: el numero uno on October 31, 2011, 06:46:31 PM
And suckmymuscle would look like a Gorilla

"The gorilla whisperer"  ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on October 31, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Thats the problem with buddhism, there is nothing wrong with attachment, their is nothing wrong with feeling despair when those things are gone.  This is human, buddhists are always wanting to escape reality and turn it into something it is not.  The fact is the world has and always be a hostile environment for life, and being a mung bean eating meditator just isolates people from living their life.  It is a lie that there is some type of enlightenment.  The sooner people face these facts, the sooner they can live a productive full life.  Religion just acts as a roadblock to the truth.  Hope this helps

you do speak some truth about Buddhism but it all depends on if you are practicing it in the right way....of course Buddhists have attachments....but you should not be SO attached that if you lose it then you become depressed or dysfunctional.....becaus e it is within that dysfunction that you make poor choices which exacerbate things...and yes the world is a hostile environment and Buddhism is a way to keep yourself sane in an insane world..I guarantee you that if you practiced it, you would feel different..like you are living in another dimension and can see things in a clear way which others are unable to see..because Buddhism is rational
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 31, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
you do speak some truth about Buddhism but it all depends on if you are practicing it in the right way....of course Buddhists have attachments....but you should not be SO attached that if you lose it then you become depressed or dysfunctional.....becaus e it is within that dysfunction that you make poor choices which exacerbate things...and yes the world is a hostile environment and Buddhism is a way to keep yourself sane in an insane world..I guarantee you that if you practiced it, you would feel different..like you are living in another dimension and can see things in a clear way which others are unable to see..because Buddhism is rational
I was an advocate of buddhism for 15 years, until I realised that they have all types of weirdo, mystical beliefs that are just utter nonsense.  They are stuck in the past.  Once again, becoming depressed or dysfuctional is OK.  I believe religion keeps people insane in a sane world.  The only sane people I meet are atheists or agnostics, the rest are just delusional.  Buddhism isnt rational, it is based on all types of wishful thinking, like re-incarnation and karma for instance, none of which can be proven - and the onus of proof is on the person who speaks, and as of yet I havent heard one valid argument for reincarnation or karma.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on October 31, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
I was an advocate of buddhism for 15 years, until I realised that they have all types of weirdo, mystical beliefs that are just utter nonsense.  They are stuck in the past.  Once again, becoming depressed or dysfuctional is OK.  I believe religion keeps people insane in a sane world.  The only sane people I meet are atheists or agnostics, the rest are just delusional.  Buddhism isnt rational, it is based on all types of wishful thinking, like re-incarnation and karma for instance, none of which can be proven - and the onus of proof is on the person who speaks, and as of yet I havent heard one valid argument for reincarnation or karma.

I agree with you....which is why as I said in an earlier post that I only practice the psychological part of Buddhism NOT the religious part....as for the reincarnation part, like some, I believe that there is no God as people usually think of one...he is not some man in heaven....our god is basically the stars in the universe which is where we all come from...once we die that energy within us (usually referred to as a soul) goes back to the stars from whence it came....
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 31, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
I agree with you....which is why as I said in an earlier post that I only practice the psychological part of Buddhism NOT the religious part....as for the reincarnation part, like some, I believe that there is no God as people usually think of one...he is not some man in heaven....our god is basically the stars in the universe which is where we all come from...once we die that energy within us (usually referred to as a soul) goes back to the stars from whence it came....
Sounds like a nice theory, but I dont think it possible to know what happens when we die, if we were supposed to know, we would.  But the mystery of it all is what makes life interesting.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: dustin on October 31, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
E-kul, you can be Buddhist and modern too. I don't even label myself as a bodybuilder but I guess I could say I incorporate a lot of Buddha nature into my everyday life.

My big thing is being modern, compassionate and universally cognizant. I understand and appreciate that all sentient beings inherently suffer and I don't shit on people because of this understanding. Life shits on everyone and it's not appropriate for me to shit on people even more. I am hold myself especially responsible because I understand this and know how my actions affect others.

I would write more and be more coherent if I weren't posting from my phone and if I wasn't so fucked up from painkillers right now. I think everyone can adopt some Buddhist teachings no matter what religion or background. I love all you stupid mother fuckers and wish you the best (except that turd Vince Goodrum). Cockspeed!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on October 31, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
E-kul, you can be Buddhist and modern too. I don't even label myself as a bodybuilder but I guess I could say I incorporate a lot of Buddha nature into my everyday life.

My big thing is being modern, compassionate and universally cognizant. I understand and appreciate that all sentient beings inherently suffer and I don't shit on people because of this understanding. Life shits on everyone and it's not appropriate for me to shit on people even more. I am hold myself especially responsible because I understand this and know how my actions affect others.

I would write more and be more coherent if I weren't posting from my phone and if I wasn't so fucked up from painkillers right now. I think everyone can adopt some Buddhist teachings no matter what religion or background. I love all you stupid mother fuckers and wish you the best (except that turd Vince Goodrum). Cockspeed!
But all Indingenous cultures have had similar nature loving peace loving attitudes, and what happened to them, they were blown out of existence by more aggressive races.  I believe compassion is weakness, and not suited to living in the modern world.  The Dalai Lama, for instance has never had sexual relations, never had to handle money and never had to live a normal life, who the hell is he to give advice on living, the man is treated like a child by his followers, they do everything for him.  The Dalai Lama would be fucked if he had to fend for himslef.  If we lived in a Utopia or even a moderately civilised society, compassion would have a place, but in a competitive democracy, being kind and compassionate will get you eaten alive.  Oh, and by the way, I hate with pure guilt free abandon, I dont love everyone, and I dont care if they love me.  I love me, and thats all that counts.  I dont have compassion for arseholes, that is illogical.  Buddhism leads people away from the truth, not towards it.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: dustin on October 31, 2011, 10:29:06 PM
But all Indingenous cultures have had similar nature loving peace loving attitudes, and what happened to them, they were blown out of existence by more aggressive races.  I believe compassion is weakness, and not suited to living in the modern world.  The Dalai Lama, for instance has never had sexual relations, never had to handle money and never had to live a normal life, who the hell is he to give advice on living, the man is treated like a child by his followers, they do everything for him.  The Dalai Lama would be fucked if he had to fend for himslef.  If we lived in a Utopia or even a moderately civilised society, compassion would have a place, but in a competitive democracy, being kind and compassionate will get you eaten alive.  Oh, and by the way, I hate with pure guilt free abandon, I dont love everyone, and I dont care if they love me.  I love me, and thats all that counts.  I dont have compassion for arseholes, that is illogical.  Buddhism leads people away from the truth, not towards it.

Compassion isn't weak if you just use you're mind. Like I said, I'm modern too. I enjoy shooting fat doses of trenbologna, smoking fine ass chronic and slamming my wife's vag on the regular.

The monks I've met at least encouraged me to take what works and disregard what doesn't. If you're a generally goods person you'll make the right decisions. Don't have to chant all day and smell like nag champa. Don't have to be a pussy by any means.

Oh, I do have a sick Buddha necklace too lol. Shit's all iced out and gangster looking. 8)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on October 31, 2011, 11:38:03 PM
Whats it all about?

If you examine the world, you'll see that nothing in it is permanent, not even your consciousness which beholds it.  Everything is changing, so the 'existence' of a thing is an illusion.  It is a mistake and a cause of unhappiness to cling to something, including yourself, as if it were lasting.  

The appealing thing to me about Hinduism and it's offshoots like Buddhism, if I can ignore some of the absurd ends that people bring them to, is that they try to have a foundation in inquiry rather than revelation.  Whether you agree with them or not, you're always free to discuss it without restraint.  Western monotheism tends to take revelation as essential.  You can't be Christian if you've never been exposed to Christ, whereas anyone examining the nature of things might reach Buddhist-like conclusions even if they never heard of Buddhism.

You might dig the Upanishads too, Wiggs.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Parker on November 01, 2011, 12:26:15 AM
I was an advocate of buddhism for 15 years, until I realised that they have all types of weirdo, mystical beliefs that are just utter nonsense.  They are stuck in the past.  Once again, becoming depressed or dysfuctional is OK.  I believe religion keeps people insane in a sane world.  The only sane people I meet are atheists or agnostics, the rest are just delusional.  Buddhism isnt rational, it is based on all types of wishful thinking, like re-incarnation and karma for instance, none of which can be proven - and the onus of proof is on the person who speaks, and as of yet I havent heard one valid argument for reincarnation or karma.
Dude some of the most unhappiest and depressed people I have met were atheists, like they wanted to rain on everybody's parade and were the Grumpy Carebear.

I have met people who do follow Buddhist teachings, and meditate and are very calm, full of life, knowledge, and a inner strength that atheists seemingly lack.

It seems that you are stuck on dogmas...and dogmas=unhappiness.

Think about your woman hating thread...another dogma
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: dawakaman on November 01, 2011, 01:01:42 AM
I am a Buddhist,.....I live my life as a Buddhist but not in the strictest sense since in this day and age it would be really difficult to do so.....but I use Buddhist principles as a guide for daily living...this is it in a nutshell;..

Buddhists believe that human misery and unhappiness is caused by being attached to things...and that this attachment causes us to behave in ways which are mentally detrimental to ourselves and brings on unhappiness....for example....being so attached to a woman that her leaving would cause you to get angry, go into a depression, maybe even kill her (and wind up in prison), or kill yourself....we see this all the time....another example would be to be really attached to your car or other material possessions....what happens when you no longer have the car or it gets totalled???....again some go into depression....not getting a promotion you wanted....so you react by getting angry, maybe cursing out your boss, maybe you stop doing your best work..all of which could lead to you being fired....by not being so attached to "things" you avoid being thrown into a state of despair when you can't have those things or can never attain them...

it is emotionalism that makes us as humans do stupid things which then cause us even more misery....emotions get us into trouble....by detaching yourself from people and things and not making them so important you can approach life every day with a sense of well-being which enables you to make good rational decisions since emotion will play no part in your decision-making process....everything in moderation...too much of anything (sex, food, etc) is not healthy and can unbalance you as a person... you can love, have sex, eat, drink, whatever, but not to the point where it controls you and you then make poor decisions which get you in trouble....having sex all the time indiscriminately for example is great in theory but can lead to AIDS, or getting the wrong woman pregnant who will then make you miserable and kill you in child support...how many of our friends have we seen get caught up in this???..

As a Buddhist you have to practice mindfulness which means that you avoid having bad thoughts in your mind and you avoid negative feelings at all cost....you keep your mind clear all the time and you don't dwell on negativity..how do you do this???..every time a negative thought crosses your mind you must immediately recognize it and then stop thinking about it and banish it from your mind....thats the key...and by doing this constantly you begin to attain a state of  well being where nothing bothers you....your ultimate goal is to get to NIRVANA...this is attained after years of practicing mindfulness where you attain the ultimate bliss...nothing at all EVER bothers you and you are calm, serene, and content with yourself and with others at ALL TIMES no matter what they do....NIRVANA takes years to obtain where you never have negative thoughts or display any anger, or thoughts of depression, revenge, etc....it takes plenty of practice and is a daily struggle

you should not always be in a heightened state of elation either..since you will eventually crash emotionally ..it is basically keeping your emotions even..never going too high or too low because even being TOO happy can cause you to make poor decisions....if you start today, you won't attain NIRVANA for 10-15-20 years...but by starting now you put yourself on the path to Nirvana....that path is called THE WAY....NIRVANA is the ultimate heaven....you are peaceful with yourself and the world...you accept yourself, those around you, and you are happy because you have all that you need and you are not trying to attain things you will NEVER get..unlike your friends who are running around chasing dreams and are very unhappy that all their chasing is not accomplishing anything...

finally when at work there are rules that Buddhists follow so as to increase their chance of success and so as to not get themselves entangled in bad things....you cannot steal...not even a pencil or paper or paper clip..you cannot talk about your boss to other co-workers...you cannot gossip...you must say hello to everyone when you come in and goodbye when you are leaving so as to spread positive energy and not create misunderstandings....("that guy must not like me since he didn't say hello")..you must keep a clear desk without clutter so as to be organized and more productive...also you must meditate often to help clear your mind..

sorry for being so long-winded but this is it in a nutshell......this is only the psychological part of Buddhism....the religious part is more complicated...I don't practice that part of it because its just too strange...


Great post. I try to implement as much of the teachings in my daily life as possible and it has made me a much better person. Since 3 years I'm a much 'lighter', more positive person and a lot of great things happened to me since a changed my attitude around. Creating awareness of your thoughts and feelings made me more stable, and less susceptible to emotional based decisions.
I do think it needs to be said that the only way to reach enlightenment is through meditation, which comes in all forms and is (for me) the hardest part..
But as always, the path is the goal..

Peace
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 06:08:09 AM
If you examine the world, you'll see that nothing in it is permanent, not even your consciousness which beholds it.  Everything is changing, so the 'existence' of a thing is an illusion.  It is a mistake and a cause of unhappiness to cling to something, including yourself, as if it were lasting.  

The appealing thing to me about Hinduism and it's offshoots like Buddhism, if I can ignore some of the absurd ends that people bring them to, is that they try to have a foundation in inquiry rather than revelation.  Whether you agree with them or not, you're always free to discuss it without restraint.  Western monotheism tends to take revelation as essential.  You can't be Christian if you've never been exposed to Christ, whereas anyone examining the nature of things might reach Buddhist-like conclusions even if they never heard of Buddhism.

You might dig the Upanishads too, Wiggs.
But clinging to things is imperative to human survival, and I don't believe everything is changing, it is a paradox, like the old cliche, the more things change the more they stay the same.  If everything changes, then so will the fact that everything changes.  Most peoples unhappiness is caused by other people, not the things they cling too.  I just think Buddhism is too vague, like how do you not become attached to something, the only way to become unattached is to get to a point where you either don't like nor dislike anything, as we are drawn to things we like, and withdraw from things we don't.  So to develop this attitude, one needs to become passionless and just live a basic existence.  I would prefer my joys and my sufferings to some flatline existence where I pretend to be OK with things.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 06:11:06 AM
E-kul, shut the hell up, you receantly made a thread dedicated to hating women. Stupid :D

I can't take none of you phonys seriously, woman hater buddhist trying to have a philosophical conversation about peace with a male bodybuilder worshipper who sticks needels in his ass.

Most ridiculous thread ever.

Losers!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 06:13:32 AM
Dude some of the most unhappiest and depressed people I have met were atheists, like they wanted to rain on everybody's parade and were the Grumpy Carebear.

I have met people who do follow Buddhist teachings, and meditate and are very calm, full of life, knowledge, and a inner strength that atheists seemingly lack.

It seems that you are stuck on dogmas...and dogmas=unhappiness.

Think about your woman hating thread...another dogma
Buddhists are atheists, shows how much you know
As seen in the Basic Points of Buddhism, one doctrine agreed upon by all branches of modern Buddhism is that "this world is not created and ruled by a God."
The Buddha himself rejected metaphysical speculation as a matter of principle, and his teachings focused entirely on the practical ways to end suffering.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 06:15:02 AM
E-kul, shut the hell up, you receantly made a thread dedicated to hating women. Stupid :D

I can't take none of you phonys seriously, woman hater buddhist trying to have a philosophical conversation about peace with a male bodybuilder worshipper who sticks needels in his ass.

Most ridiculous thread ever.

Losers!
This is the most nonsense post I have read in a long time, what are you trying to say dude.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 06:18:34 AM
This is the most nonsense post I have read in a long time, what are you trying to say dude.

If you try to convinse people about meditation, and self healing, energies and all that crap buddhism sayes, shouldn't you realise that your thread about hating women is kind of ironic?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 06:22:06 AM
If you try to convince people about meditation, and self healing, energies and all that crap Buddhism sayes, shouldn't you realise that your thread about hating women is kind of ironic?
I think you have me confused for someone else, I am just posting in this thread, I didnt start the topic, and if you read the whole thread, I said I used to advocate Buddhism, but I haven't for a long time - I consider myself an agnostic.  I don't know why you think I support Buddhism, I think they are all nuts - Christians, Catholics, Jews, Protestans etc etc.  Religion is poison, and should be eliminated from the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 06:22:54 AM
you did start the thread

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400723.0

and here you talk about nonsense too.

I don't know what I've missed... really don't give a crap
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 08:53:42 AM
But all Indingenous cultures have had similar nature loving peace loving attitudes, and what happened to them, they were blown out of existence by more aggressive races.  I believe compassion is weakness, and not suited to living in the modern world.  The Dalai Lama, for instance has never had sexual relations, never had to handle money and never had to live a normal life, who the hell is he to give advice on living, the man is treated like a child by his followers, they do everything for him.  The Dalai Lama would be fucked if he had to fend for himslef.  If we lived in a Utopia or even a moderately civilised society, compassion would have a place, but in a competitive democracy, being kind and compassionate will get you eaten alive.  Oh, and by the way, I hate with pure guilt free abandon, I dont love everyone, and I dont care if they love me.  I love me, and thats all that counts.  I dont have compassion for arseholes, that is illogical.  Buddhism leads people away from the truth, not towards it.

As a Buddhist, you don't have a be a peace-lovin tree hugger....LOL...you can fight if you feel threatened..you just cannot initiate said action and you should never be so angry as to do so.........in Buddhist teachings if someone is making threatening gestures toward you..you are to stay perfectly still and relax..don't egg the person on by returning his aggressiveness...give the guy a chance to back down or calm down but if the person attacks you, you are free to whip his ass if you choose to do so.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Meso_z on November 01, 2011, 09:04:39 AM
fatpanda was a buddhist
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:06:51 AM

Great post. I try to implement as much of the teachings in my daily life as possible and it has made me a much better person. Since 3 years I'm a much 'lighter', more positive person and a lot of great things happened to me since a changed my attitude around. Creating awareness of your thoughts and feelings made me more stable, and less susceptible to emotional based decisions.
I do think it needs to be said that the only way to reach enlightenment is through meditation, which comes in all forms and is (for me) the hardest part..
But as always, the path is the goal..

Peace

Good post as well....glad to see that the teachings are helping you.....believe me it is a daily struggle but I believe that I have been helped by this tremendously....I was getting a lot of negative thoughts in my mind especially toward my ex-wife and I actually had thoughts of violence against her.....I also wanted to call her a lot of names which is dangerous because once you do that, you can't take it back....and many people in the world tend to say things which they shouldn't say.....it spreads a lot of ill will and you don't gain anything from it....it is best to have restraint.....there have been many many times when I wanted to say something bad to someone or get violent with someone due to anger....but I then practice mindfulness and remove those thoughts from my mind....well..many times once i have done this, the person I was angry with has later on come to me and done something wonderful for me....which would not have happened had I cursed that person out or hit him/her....you get back from the world what you put into the world
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
If you examine the world, you'll see that nothing in it is permanent,
So are you suggesting that the only thing that is permanent, is that nothing is permanent?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
you did start the thread

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400723.0

and here you talk about nonsense too.

I don't know what I've missed... really don't give a crap
I was talking about the Are you buddhist thread, I didnt start that one, and yes I did start the woman hater thread. And yes, you dont know what you have missed.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:16:07 AM
As a Buddhist, you don't have a be a peace-lovin tree hugger....LOL...you can fight if you feel threatened..you just cannot initiate said action and you should never be so angry as to do so.........in Buddhist teachings if someone is making threatening gestures toward you..you are to stay perfectly still and relax..don't egg the person on by returning his aggressiveness...give the guy a chance to back down or calm down but if the person attacks you, you are free to whip his ass if you choose to do so.
Yeah, I have done that before, broke a mans arm and then was charged and convicted and fined.  Nice Theory.  In this world, little to no aggression is tolerated by civilians.  I had three men come to my home, challenge me and I got the better of them, broke one mans arm and ended up in handcuffs at the police station.  Thats why I say buddhism sucks, that old model just doesnt fit in the new world.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:17:52 AM
But clinging to things is imperative to human survival, and I don't believe everything is changing, it is a paradox, like the old cliche, the more things change the more they stay the same.  If everything changes, then so will the fact that everything changes.  Most peoples unhappiness is caused by other people, not the things they cling too.  I just think Buddhism is too vague, like how do you not become attached to something, the only way to become unattached is to get to a point where you either don't like nor dislike anything, as we are drawn to things we like, and withdraw from things we don't.  So to develop this attitude, one needs to become passionless and just live a basic existence.  I would prefer my joys and my sufferings to some flatline existence where I pretend to be OK with things.

this is a good post and you make a good point but in Buddhism, you recognize that things change and are not permanent....yes you can like something..nothing wrong with that..but eventually you will lose most things and when you do, you have to be able to accept this and not fall apart, which then will lead you to even worse misery...you are right that unhappiness can be caused by other people but the whole idea is why are you letting other people fuck up YOUR happiness???..detach from them so that you don't get emotionally caught up in their suffering which they will gladly pass on to you!...

in our world, PEOPLE LET THEIR POSSESSIONS DEFINE WHO THEY ARE....which is why when a lot of those people lose that expensive car, the mansion with the swimming pool, the hot chick, the money, they fall apart....go into depression and many never recover..we see so many men who kill their wives or girlfriends (and sometimes their children as well) because they feel they are losing everything and have lost control...In Buddhism we realize these things aren't permanent and do not actually belong to us...we use them while we have them but when we lose them we move on to other things..they are not important in the big picture....the most important thing is our health and mental well being

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:18:59 AM
Good post as well....glad to see that the teachings are helping you.....believe me it is a daily struggle but I believe that I have been helped by this tremendously....I was getting a lot of negative thoughts in my mind especially toward my ex-wife and I actually had thoughts of violence against her.....I also wanted to call her a lot of names which is dangerous because once you do that, you can't take it back....and many people in the world tend to say things which they shouldn't say.....it spreads a lot of ill will and you don't gain anything from it....it is best to have restraint.....there have been many many times when I wanted to say something bad to someone or get violent with someone due to anger....but I then practice mindfulness and remove those thoughts from my mind....well..many times once i have done this, the person I was angry with has later on come to me and done something wonderful for me....which would not have happened had I cursed that person out or hit him/her....you get back from the world what you put into the world
Sounds like a bunch of new age crap, you need to get into a serious fight with  another man, jesus, you sound like a massive fag.  If you got in a real fist fight with another man, you would learn more about yourself during that fight than you ever would in a lifetime of studying buddhism.  Man up dude, and stop talking like a fairy.  This is Getbig for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:21:34 AM
I think you have me confused for someone else, I am just posting in this thread, I didnt start the topic, and if you read the whole thread, I said I used to advocate Buddhism, but I haven't for a long time - I consider myself an agnostic.  I don't know why you think I support Buddhism, I think they are all nuts - Christians, Catholics, Jews, Protestans etc etc.  Religion is poison, and should be eliminated from the face of the earth.

oh by the way, one thing I left out is that Buddhism, unlike other religions DOES NOT ASK YOU TO BELIEVE IN A SAVIOR OR SEEK HELP FROM HIM...In christianity, when people are facing adversity, they pray and seek help from a higher power...Buddhism says for you to HELP YOURSELF and to be proactive in solving your own problems not to rely on a deity to help you
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 09:24:57 AM
So are you suggesting that the only thing that is permanent, is that nothing is permanent?

I imagine they're talking about the physical world only.  Seems like you're choosing to include non-physical constructs as well, like concepts, under the umbrella of 'everything' and 'nothing,' in order to permit a sophistical equivocation on those terms.  

A Buddhist would be more like a Platonist maybe, dividing the world into the illusory material world and the 'true' transcendent realm.  In pop culture, The Matrix is Plato's Cave story.  You might also enjoy debating with Heraclitus.  They say Nietzsche is his heir.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
this is a good post and you make a good point but in Buddhism, you recognize that things change and are not permanent....yes you can like something..nothing wrong with that..but eventually you will lose most things and when you do, you have to be able to accept this and not fall apart, which then will lead you to even worse misery...you are right that unhappiness can be caused by other people but the whole idea is why are you letting other people fuck up YOUR happiness???..detach from them so that you don't get emotionally caught up in their suffering which they will gladly pass on to you!...

in our world, PEOPLE LET THEIR POSSESSIONS DEFINE WHO THEY ARE....which is why when a lot of those people lose that expensive car, the mansion with the swimming pool, the hot chick, the money, they fall apart....go into depression and many never recover..we see so many men who kill their wives or girlfriends (and sometimes their children as well) because they feel they are losing everything and have lost control...In Buddhism we realize these things aren't permanent and do not actually belong to us...we use them while we have them but when we lose them we move on to other things..they are not important in the big picture....the most important thing is our health and mental well being


This is posted by somebody who hasn't truly suffered. I dont know what planet you are living on, but it is other people that cause our suffering, to suggest some new age crap, like - you control how you feel and if somebody else insults you it is more a reflection on them than you blah blah blah.  The truth is, other things and people hurt us, you would be fucked in a war, reacting badly to hostility and wanting to hurt back will keep you alive.  Stop reading and rehashing old information printed in a hundred new age books and get out and live life.  Come talk to me when you have had some serious shit happen.  maybe a serious accident when you are permanately injured, or the loss of ones own child etc.. And people dont define themselves by their possesions, thats all new age garbage.  People just try and get through the best they can, and thats another reason I dont agree with buddhism, you use buddhism to judge people, like being critical of other peoples life choices, so what if someone wants to own a nice car.  Fucking Communists
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:36:04 AM
oh by the way, one thing I left out is that Buddhism, unlike other religions DOES NOT ASK YOU TO BELIEVE IN A SAVIOR OR SEEK HELP FROM HIM...In christianity, when people are facing adversity, they pray and seek help from a higher power...Buddhism says for you to HELP YOURSELF and to be proactive in solving your own problems not to rely on a deity to help you
So what, My mum told me the same thing as I was groing up. And Ive practiced self reliance ever since. Work for myself, make tons of money, get laid whenever I want, I allow myself the freedom to love, hate, dream, create etc  I see praying as wishful thinking, practiced by immature psyche's. The belief in God is the childish longing for father, it is the property of the feeble minded, who cant think for themselves, and buddhism is just as childish.  The modern man laps up anything he reads or hears, chopping and changing his appetite like the direction of the wind.  I cant believe you all believe that garbage they publish in the mainstream, just observe the real world and you will know how to act and behave, no need to believe ancient nonsense.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
Sounds like a bunch of new age crap, you need to get into a serious fight with  another man, jesus, you sound like a massive fag.  If you got in a real fist fight with another man, you would learn more about yourself during that fight than you ever would in a lifetime of studying buddhism.  Man up dude, and stop talking like a fairy.  This is Getbig for fucks sake.

no one here is acting like a fairy....I lift regularly, I lift heavy and I am a big guy for my size....I carry myself with confidence and no one EVER bothers me...and yes if someone got really aggressive and hit me there would be hell to pay, believe me...but why go through that?....if I can avoid a fight I will..returning the aggressiveness of others does not help you at all in the long run.....you punch him, he punches you..okay.,.so what???yes you might win because you hurt him more but.... you will be hurt as well....so why bother?  so you won...wow! big deal...what if the guy had a gun or knife.....he's obviously angry about his own miserable life and wants to goad some sucker into a confrontation so he can retaliate and take out his misery on someone....what do you get out of that???..you could get hurt,...killed....all to satisfy this guys anger.....believe me this happens a lot especially in confrontations over women....guys confront each other and attack each other over women....why???...better to let the guy keep your woman and move on if she's that big of a whore....you can find another....why die over a woman???...does that make sense to you???...would you be so attached to a woman that you would get yourself killed?..or kill the other guy and wind up in jail???..and if you go to jail, she would be with another guy any way!!!....change your mindset..ownership of things gets you in trouble....because then you will do anything to maintain that ownership..even if it gets you into trouble
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:39:38 AM
I imagine they're talking about the physical world only.  Seems like you're choosing to include non-physical constructs as well, like concepts, under the umbrella of 'everything' and 'nothing,' in order to permit a sophistical equivocation on those terms.  

A Buddhist would be more like a Platonist maybe, dividing the world into the illusory material world and the 'true' transcendent realm.  In pop culture, The Matrix is Plato's Cave story.  You might also enjoy debating with Heraclitus.  They say Nietzsche is his heir.
I may get around to reading the philosophies of some long dead dudes if I could find the time, but a modern man has plenty of material to work with in the modern world if he wants to philosophise.  See you are name dropping, and I dont want to start hitting wikipedia to keep up with you.  I was just asking "Are you suggesting that the only thing that is permanent, is that nothing is permanent?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:41:14 AM
I imagine they're talking about the physical world only.  Seems like you're choosing to include non-physical constructs as well, like concepts, under the umbrella of 'everything' and 'nothing,' in order to permit a sophistical equivocation on those terms.  

A Buddhist would be more like a Platonist maybe, dividing the world into the illusory material world and the 'true' transcendent realm.  In pop culture, The Matrix is Plato's Cave story.  You might also enjoy debating with Heraclitus.  They say Nietzsche is his heir.

yes..this is a good point..Buddhism asks you to look at what is really true as opposed to what is bullshit and illusion..once you are able to do this, you will see the world for what it is and avoid living in fantasy
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: dr.chimps on November 01, 2011, 09:42:34 AM
Fat Panda. Didn't end so well, for him.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:43:39 AM
I may get around to reading the philosophies of some long dead dudes if I could find the time, but a modern man has plenty of material to work with in the modern world if he wants to philosophise.  See you are name dropping, and I dont want to start hitting wikipedia to keep up with you.  I was just asking "Are you suggesting that the only thing that is permanent, is that nothing is permanent?


it is applicable in the modern world ....especially with all the materialism and the way people use each other..you gotta be able to recognize these things so that events and other people don't control you
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 09:44:31 AM
So what, My mum told me the same thing as I was groing up. And Ive practiced self reliance ever since. Work for myself, make tons of money, get laid whenever I want, I allow myself the freedom to love, hate, dream, create etc  I see praying as wishful thinking, practiced by immature psyche's. The belief in God is the childish longing for father, it is the property of the feeble minded, who cant think for themselves, and buddhism is just as childish.  The modern man laps up anything he reads or hears, chopping and changing his appetite like the direction of the wind.  I cant believe you all believe that garbage they publish in the mainstream, just observe the real world and you will know how to act and behave, no need to believe ancient nonsense.

Man, you've got it all figured out!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Fat Panda. Didn't end so well, for him.

Buddhism, like other things, does not guarantee you a great outcome..thats up to you in the end
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:45:17 AM
no one here is acting like a fairy....I lift regularly, I lift heavy and I am a big guy for my size....I carry myself with confidence and no one EVER bothers me...and yes if someone got really aggressive and hit me there would be hell to pay, believe me...but why go through that?....if I can avoid a fight I will..returning the aggressiveness of others does not help you at all in the long run.....you punch him, he punches you..okay.,.so what???yes you might win because you hurt him more but.... you will be hurt as well....so why bother?  so you won...wow! big deal...what if the guy had a gun or knife.....he's obviously angry about his own miserable life and wants to goad some sucker into a confrontation so he can retaliate and take out his misery on someone....what do you get out of that???..you could get hurt,...killed....all to satisfy this guys anger.....believe me this happens a lot especially in confrontations over women....guys confront each other and attack each other over women....why???...better to let the guy keep your woman and move on if she's that big of a whore....you can find another....why die over a woman???...does that make sense to you???...would you be so attached to a woman that you would get yourself killed?..or kill the other guy and wind up in jail???..and if you go to jail, she would be with another guy any way!!!....change your mindset..ownership of things gets you in trouble....because then you will do anything to maintain that ownership..even if it gets you into trouble
With that attitude you would get your arse handed to you if you ever got in to a real fight, I know dudes who would chew your eyeball out if his opponent showed a moments weakness, your attitude defines uncertainty, As a man, I am ready to fight at a moments notice, I love the way it makes me feel, and win or lose, I fight hard, like a man, stand and bang, dirty boxing, ground and poiund, whatever it takes.  And afterwards if I lose I reflect and change as a man, and if I win I grow in stature, feel even more manly, and by the way, women love to be fought over, I have fucked a few chicks because I fought for them.  You may lift and look like a man, but you dont post like one.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:51:20 AM
yes..this is a good point..Buddhism asks you to look at what is really true as opposed to what is bullshit and illusion..once you are able to do this, you will see the world for what it is and avoid living in fantasy
What is really true is what people see, there is only one reality. So I am unsure of what you mean when you say that people avoid living in fantasy, it is impossible to live in a fantasy, we all only have one reality.  It sounds too me you are making a negative judgement on peoples mindset that you dont understand.  What you call living in fantasy, could merely be you projecting yourself onto others.  Because you dont understand them or there circumstances, you dumb it down and suggest they are living in a fantasy, when in reality it is more than likely it is you living in fantasy, and your ego disallows you to see this.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:52:31 AM
it is applicable in the modern world ....especially with all the materialism and the way people use each other..you gotta be able to recognize these things so that events and other people don't control you
Still didnt answer my question? Way to deflect man
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 09:53:45 AM
thread is almost overflowing with wisdom
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:54:22 AM
With that attitude you would get your arse handed to you if you ever got in to a real fight, I know dudes who would chew your eyeball out if his opponent showed a moments weakness, your attitude defines uncertainty, As a man, I am ready to fight at a moments notice, I love the way it makes me feel, and win or lose, I fight hard, like a man, stand and bang, dirty boxing, ground and pound, whatever it takes.  And afterwards if I lose I reflect and change as a man, and if I win I grow in stature, feel even more manly, and by the way, women love to be fought over, I have fucked a few chicks because I fought for them.  You may lift and look like a man, but you dont post like one.

okay..fighting for women works for you....good for you..I have fucked many women and haven't had to fight over them....in Buddhism you have no ego therefore I have no need to feel superior or stronger than others since i have no ego to feed...you say you feel more manly when you fight and win..I won't put it down...but I have no need to fight to feel manly...I feel manly already....

men have confronted me before....just because I don't openly return his aggressiveness doesn't mean I am afraid and not a man.,....again..I stay calm...I don't run.....and I keep my eye on him so he doesn't sucker-punch me..and oftentimes the other guy has backed off when he sensed that I wasn't afraid of him....mission accomplished...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 09:56:22 AM
I may get around to reading the philosophies of some long dead dudes if I could find the time, but a modern man has plenty of material to work with in the modern world if he wants to philosophise.  See you are name dropping, and I dont want to start hitting wikipedia to keep up with you.  I was just asking "Are you suggesting that the only thing that is permanent, is that nothing is permanent?


You might find the dead guys surprisingly insightful.  If'n your busy schedule allows.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 09:57:10 AM
Man, you've got it all figured out!
I'm not suggesting that at all, all I'm suggesting is that Buddhism is far from the worlds answer or salvation to help restore our planet and humanity to a civilised state.  I havent figured shit out! I will attest to that anyday of the week, I live in that mental space where when people speak to me, I have to come back to earth to relate to them, dumb myself down a bit so I can get along with their half retarded mindset.  And then I go back to peeling myself back to the core, unveiling the deepest darkest reccesses of my deeply troubled mind, from there I explore all of space and time and the deepest mysteries of the cosmos.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 09:57:16 AM
What is really true is what people see, there is only one reality. So I am unsure of what you mean when you say that people avoid living in fantasy, it is impossible to live in a fantasy, we all only have one reality.  It sounds too me you are making a negative judgement on peoples mindset that you dont understand.  What you call living in fantasy, could merely be you projecting yourself onto others.  Because you dont understand them or there circumstances, you dumb it down and suggest they are living in a fantasy, when in reality it is more than likely it is you living in fantasy, and your ego disallows you to see this.

when I say living in fantasy I mean living in denial and not seeing the reality for what it really is....some find comfort in that denial......but when the reality truly hits, they are unprepared for it...knowing the reality and not living in denial helps you to shape your own world and not become a hostage to it
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Parker on November 01, 2011, 09:58:17 AM
Yeah, I have done that before, broke a mans arm and then was charged and convicted and fined.  Nice Theory.  In this world, little to no aggression is tolerated by civilians.  I had three men come to my home, challenge me and I got the better of them, broke one mans arm and ended up in handcuffs at the police station.  Thats why I say buddhism sucks, that old model just doesnt fit in the new world.
Why did they come to your home to "challenge" you?



Females who like to be fought over are young minded...and many times women will start or instigate fights that they know their man will fight over them for, manipulating them...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Fat Panda. Didn't end so well, for him.

He thought karmic wheel was made of cheese.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:03:16 AM
I'm not suggesting that at all, all I'm suggesting is that Buddhism is far from the worlds answer or salvation to help restore our planet and humanity to a civilised state.  I havent figured shit out! I will attest to that anyday of the week, I live in that mental space where when people speak to me, I have to come back to earth to relate to them, dumb myself down a bit so I can get along with their half retarded mindset.  And then I go back to peeling myself back to the core, unveiling the deepest darkest reccesses of my deeply troubled mind, from there I explore all of space and time and the deepest mysteries of the cosmos.

I appreciate you temporarily bringing the dialogue down to my level.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 10:05:02 AM
Why did they come to your home to "challenge" you?



Females who like to be fought over are young minded...and many times women will start or instigate fights that they know their man will fight over them for, manipulating them...

good post....in Buddhism you realize that women and others often only love you for what you have or for how you make them feel or for what you can do for them....and once they believe that you can't do things for them or you can't make them feel a certain way and you no longer possess those things that they like they will be GONE...this is the reality....and the poster makes a point...what part did you play in these men coming to your home to challenge you???
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
You might find the dead guys surprisingly insightful.  If'n your busy schedule allows.
Yeah but why read them, when we have minds like Stephen Hawkings, Noam Chomsky, jacques fresco etc etc There are so many great modern minds who have read all that stuff, spun it and served it up in a more manageable modern approach, I have always struggled reading older texts, Many years ago I tried to read Walden, and the book contained so many words that were no longer in use in the modern world, my dictionary didnt even have them.  So i tend to steer clear of really old texts, like I appreciate the modern version of the tibetan book of dying, but would never have read the ancient texts.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:08:22 AM
when I say living in fantasy I mean living in denial and not seeing the reality for what it really is....some find comfort in that denial......but when the reality truly hits, they are unprepared for it...knowing the reality and not living in denial helps you to shape your own world and not become a hostage to it
Yeah, but to get to a prepared state, you must start from an unprepared state, so it is ok for people to not live in reality or in denial, have you ever cracked somebodys denial with some hardcore truth, they will go bannanas on you, better to let people work it out themselves, no need for buddhism, time is eternal.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:09:45 AM
I appreciate you temporarily bringing the dialogue down to my level.
Your most welcome my humble student! ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
this thread is like warm truth served on a silver platter
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 10:11:16 AM
Yeah, but to get to a prepared state, you must start from an unprepared state, so it is ok for people to not live in reality or in denial, have you ever cracked somebodys denial with some hardcore truth, they will go bannanas on you, better to let people work it out themselves, no need for buddhism, time is eternal.

time is eternal but you are not...LOL....you want to make the best of your time here on earth...and yes you are right..people start from a sense of denial and living in unreality....Buddhism takes time to incorporate into your daily life..it doesn't happen overnight..you begin slowly
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:13:32 AM
Your most welcome my humble student! ::) :o ;D

No, thank you....learning a ton....big fan!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:14:25 AM
....and the poster makes a point...what part did you play in these men coming to your home to challenge you???
Oh no biggie, many years ago some neighbours where having some crazy wild party, smashing stuff, climbing on my garage roof, just acting like clowns, so I told them all to fuck off, well they didnt, so they challenged me, I dropped one, one ran of to get a weapon and I shot in, and took the other dude down and ended up breaking his arm in an armbar.  Stupid fucker should have listened to me, but I did get in trouble, but I still to this day brag to others that it only cost me $500 to break some fuckwits arm.  Thats priceless, I mean how many people would love to break some idiots arm and have it only cost them $500.  I still smile about it.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 10:16:41 AM
Oh no biggie, many years ago some neighbours where having some crazy wild party, smashing stuff, climbing on my garage roof, just acting like clowns, so I told them all to fuck off, well they didnt, so they challenged me, I dropped one, one ran of to get a weapon and I shot in, and took the other dude down and anded up breaking his arm in an armbar.  Stupid fucker should have listened to me, but I did get in trouble, but I still to this day brag to others that it only cost me $500 to break some fuckwits arm.  Thats priceless, I mean how many people would love to break some idiots arm and have it only cost them $500.  I still smile about it.

well if it worked for you, then fine..but you could have handled it better and you could have been killed or imprisoned with a serious record..or you could have killed one of them...none of that helps you
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:18:51 AM
Yeah but why read them, when we have minds like Stephen Hawkings, Noam Chomsky, jacques fresco etc etc There are so many great modern minds who have read all that stuff, spun it and served it up in a more manageable modern approach, I have always struggled reading older texts, Many years ago I tried to read Walden, and the book contained so many words that were no longer in use in the modern world, my dictionary didnt even have them.  So i tend to steer clear of really old texts, like I appreciate the modern version of the tibetan book of dying, but would never have read the ancient texts.

Ok, I'll level with you.  I go online and try to convince people to waste their time on a lot of useless old nonsense that modern thinkers have already answered and moved way beyond.  Ya got me.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:19:22 AM
well if it worked for you, then fine..but you could have handled it better and you could have been killed or imprisoned with a serious record..or you could have killed one of them...none of that helps you
Well, I believe a real man doesnt live in fear of punishment from another autohority other than himself.  Man answers to noone but himself.  Man is the only judge, jury and executioner of his own self.  I already have serious record, and I would easily kill a man in self defense and then sleep like a baby that night, you are talking to the wrong man.  Men have a switch, once it has been turned on, it cant be extinguished, you will know when you reach that point, a calm craziness like feeling, and from that day you will be ready for whatever happens.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:22:15 AM
Ok, I'll level with you.  I go online and try to convince people to waste their time on a lot of useless old nonsense that modern thinkers have already answered and moved way beyond.  Ya got me.
Look, I know their are great minds, and many of them from the past, I am only funnin with ya, but it really is a time based issue, and some of the old philosophical stuff can be real heavy, I like to keep my philosophy paradoxically complicatitely simple, and truth be told there is a lot of great modern literature.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:27:27 AM
this thread is like warm truth served on a silver platter

I learned today that Aquinas was a natural beast of a man.  Figured you'd dig that, ya big ox.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
I learned today that Aquinas was a natural beast of a man.  Figured you'd dig that, ya big ox.

I'm really enjoying the thread!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:34:20 AM
I learned today that Aquinas was a natural beast of a man.  Figured you'd dig that, ya big ox.
Who the fuck is Aquinas?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
I'm really enjoying the thread!

Well, we bumble about, you know how it is.  ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tito24 on November 01, 2011, 10:42:07 AM
No, but if I had to chose a form of religion this one would be it.
Read about it long time ago - it builds on the eternal life cycle or better escaping from it. A catch phrase is Karma which is also well understood in the west.
Hope there's someone on here who practiced itself and can enlighten us.

exactly, buddhism also appeals to me the most. the abrahamic religions are the cancer of the earth.
im also interested in learning more about it.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:47:17 AM
Well, we bumble about, you know how it is.  ;D
I feel as soon as you expressed some type of satisfaction towards this thread, it has now lost it intensity. Thanks arsehole, I was on such a typing streak, I was in the zone man, You know, it was like some flashback to a moment in childhood, where for some reason I felt invicible, all powerful. I was, I was happy... yes happy.  Thanks dudes, this thread has transcended itself and transmuted my psyche. I am happy, yes HAP HAP HAPPY
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
exactly, buddhism also appeals to me the most. the abrahamic religions are the cancer of the earth.
im also interested in learning more about it.
I'm your buddhist master arsehole, read this thread and penetrate its truths and then you will know what is needed to be known my young padawan.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 10:49:27 AM
I feel as soon as you expressed some type of satisfaction towards this thread, it has now lost it intensity. Thanks arsehole, I was on such a typing streak, I was in the zone man, You know, it was like some flashback to a moment in childhood, where for some reason I felt invicible, all powerful. I was, I was happy... yes happy.  Thanks dudes, this thread has transcended itself and transmuted my psyche. I am happy, yes HAP HAP HAPPY


Oh no, does this mean you're leaving our lower level mental capacity and ascending back to your higher state of understanding?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:53:46 AM
I feel as soon as you expressed some type of satisfaction towards this thread, it has now lost it intensity. Thanks arsehole, I was on such a typing streak, I was in the zone man, You know, it was like some flashback to a moment in childhood, where for some reason I felt invicible, all powerful. I was, I was happy... yes happy.  Thanks dudes, this thread has transcended itself and transmuted my psyche. I am happy, yes HAP HAP HAPPY


Needs moar detachment.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
I was talking about the Are you buddhist thread, I didnt start that one, and yes I did start the woman hater thread. And yes, you dont know what you have missed.

your reading comprehension sucks. I told you "you started the woman hater thread", but you talk about peace, happyness and energies in here. That is irony if I ever knew what it was :D

Same goes to everyone here. 100% in this thread are sexist hatefull and total douchebags, including myself, yet they talk about how to better yourself with buddhism and preach about pseudo nonsense.

But this thread is a joke anyway.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Oh no, does this mean you're leaving our lower level mental capacity and ascending back to your higher state of understanding?
Yes, yes, I am drifting in and out of the deeper realms now, the cosmic counciousness calls me, beckons me like the succubus she is, she lures me with insights into the deepest corners of the universe, I must resist her lure, her charms and remain present for this thread and the good of fellow getbiggers and maybe even the future of humanity itself.  The laws of chaos dictate that the very structure of the universe could be determined by this thread.  Post well Men, and God Speed.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
your reading comprehension sucks. I told you "you started the woman hater thread", but you talk about peace, happyness and energies in here. That is irony if I ever knew what it was :D

Same goes to everyone here. 100% in this thread are sexist hatefull and total douchebags, including myself, yet they talk about how to better yourself with buddhism and preach about pseudo nonsense.

But this thread is a joke anyway.
All peacelovers loathe women, for they are the root of most wars, even the buddah was sexist, initially he didnt allow women, as he said they were to vain and incapable of spiritual enlightenment.
One of the key references that strongly discriminates against women is the legend of the origin of the nuns (bhikkhuni), in which the Buddha showed his strong disapproval of women's ordination as requested by Prajapati Gautami, his aunt and stepmother. Ananda, the Buddha's close attendant stepped in and negotiated on her behalf. As a result, the Buddha laid down a set of special rules, or the so-called Eight Heavy Duties (Garudhammas) that established the conditions for women's ordination, and nuns were required to strictly adhere to them for the rest of their lives.

The Eight Heavy Duties are:

1. A nun, even if she has been ordained for 100 years, must respect, greet and bow in reverence to the feet of a monk, even if he has just been ordained that day. (Monks pay respect to each other according to their seniority, or the number of years they have been ordained.)

2. A nun is not to stay in a residence where there is no monk. (A monk may take an independent residence.)

3. A nun is to look forward to two duties: asking for the fortnightly Uposatha (meeting day), and receiving instructions by a monk every fortnight. (Monks do not depend on nuns for this obligatory rite, nor are they required to receive any instruction.)

4. A nun who has completed her rains-retreat must offer herself for instruction to both the community of monks and to the community of nuns, based on what is seen, what is heard and what is doubted. (Monks only offer themselves to the community of monks.)

5. A nun who is put on probation for violating a monastic rule of Sanghadisesa must serve a 15-day minimum probation, with reinstatement requiring approval from both the monk and nun communities. (The minimum for monks is a five-day probation with no approval by the nuns required for reinstatement.)

6. A woman must be ordained by both monks and nuns and may be ordained only after a two-year postulancy, or training in six precepts. (Men have no mandatory postulancy and their ordination is performed by monks only.)

7. A nun may not reprimand a monk. (A monk may reprimand a monk, and any monk may reprimand a nun.)

8. From today onwards, no nun shall ever teach a monk. However, monks may teach nuns. (There are no restrictions on whom a monk may teach.)

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 11:02:14 AM
your reading comprehension sucks. I told you "you started the woman hater thread", but you talk about peace, happyness and energies in here. That is irony if I ever knew what it was :D

Same goes to everyone here. 100% in this thread are sexist hatefull and total douchebags, including myself, yet they talk about how to better yourself with buddhism and preach about pseudo nonsense.

But this thread is a joke anyway.

Wow, didn't realize I was a sexist, hateful, dbag talking about how to better myself with buddhism while preaching about pseudo nonsense. 

Sounds like a great add to my resume!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:03:07 AM
Seems to me that Buddhism would take a lot of work to perfect,if perfecting it was possible...........so much so, that while working at achieving Nirvana,you`d miss out on a lot of fine hoes!!

Just try to do the next right thing and get on with living.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
thread is bursting at the seams with wisdom!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:05:47 AM
;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:06:21 AM
Wow, didn't realize I was a sexist, hateful, dbag talking about how to better myself with buddhism while preaching about pseudo nonsense.  

Sounds like a great add to my resume!
Well I am past worrying about my resume, I have grown up and am sure of myself, I sell myself. The problem is you dont understand buddhism, buddhism must be seen like a raft to get from one side of a river to the other, once you reach the other side you dont continue on with the raft still on your back, you let it go, appreciate the help it gave you accross the river and move on.  People who carp on about buddhism are still travelling across the river.  Those who dont are on one bank or the other.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 11:08:31 AM
Seems to me that Buddhism would take a lot of work to perfect,if perfecting it was possible...........so much so, that while working at achieving Nirvana,you`d miss out on a lot of fine hoes!!

Just try to do the next right thing and get on with living.

my interpretation is that you can bang hoes but just beware of entanglements and be able to discern what you are getting into ...don't just sleep with women blindly..try to make sure it will be a positive experience for both you and her....having sex is part of your body's well-being
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: tbombz on November 01, 2011, 11:12:22 AM
im not a buddhist but i like certain buddhist ideas .. like this:


"Such a simple thing as a flower, for instance, is the sum total of all the causes and conditions which comprise it: sun, air, soil, water, nutrients, pollination by insects, the seed that came from a flower that came from a seed that came from the unbroken line of life back to the first simple cells. There is a story that once the Buddha came to give a lecture to an assembly of monks and held up a flower in silence. Of all the monks, only Mahakashyapa smiled his understanding. Perhaps he was, at least in part, acknowledging this chain of being."


Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:13:46 AM
my interpretation is that you can bang hoes but just beware of entanglements and be able to discern what you are getting into ...don't just sleep with women blindly..try to make sure it will be a positive experience for both you and her....having sex is part of your body's well-being
Way to dumb down thousands of years of monastic study on living and dying by men infinitely more determined than you to seek salvation and elevate themselves to a position to be of worth to all living beings.  I am sure the Dalai Lama has a similar take on things.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:15:28 AM
..don't just sleep with women blindly..
Party pooper!!  ;D


Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
im not a buddhist but i like certain buddhist ideas .. like this:


"Such a simple thing as a flower, for instance, is the sum total of all the causes and conditions which comprise it: sun, air, soil, water, nutrients, pollination by insects, the seed that came from a flower that came from a seed that came from the unbroken line of life back to the first simple cells. There is a story that once the Buddha came to give a lecture to an assembly of monks and held up a flower in silence. Of all the monks, only Mahakashyapa smiled his understanding. Perhaps he was, at least in part, acknowledging this chain of being."

Yeah, and maybe Mahakashyapa was just a big homo eyeing off the Buddhas fat arse for some man on man action.  These texts can be interpreted twenty different ways.  Just sounds like nonsense to me.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:17:26 AM
im not a buddhist but i like certain buddhist ideas .. like this:


"Such a simple thing as a flower, for instance, is the sum total of all the causes and conditions which comprise it: sun, air, soil, water, nutrients, pollination by insects, the seed that came from a flower that came from a seed that came from the unbroken line of life back to the first simple cells. There is a story that once the Buddha came to give a lecture to an assembly of monks and held up a flower in silence. Of all the monks, only Mahakashyapa smiled his understanding. Perhaps he was, at least in part, acknowledging this chain of being."



What da` fuck you smokin` bro..................... some deep shit!!  ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:22:05 AM
im not a buddhist but i like certain buddhist ideas .. like this:

"Such a simple thing as a flower, for instance, is the sum total of all the causes and conditions which comprise it: sun, air, soil, water, nutrients, pollination by insects, the seed that came from a flower that came from a seed that came from the unbroken line of life back to the first simple cells. There is a story that once the Buddha came to give a lecture to an assembly of monks and held up a flower in silence. Of all the monks, only Mahakashyapa smiled his understanding. Perhaps he was, at least in part, acknowledging this chain of being."

What da` fuck you smokin` bro..................... some deep shit!!  ;D
HA HAH HA AHAHH  HAHAH HHHAH  HAH AHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHa ha ha = yeah I wont some, I want to smile in acknowledgment at the unbroken line of life prompted from a simple hand gesture.  Those buddhists dudes knew how to smoke it up too I reckon with stories like that.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: tbombz on November 01, 2011, 11:26:35 AM
What da` fuck you smokin` bro..................... some deep shit!!  ;D
i didnt write that.. but ya its pretty cool !


Yeah, and maybe Mahakashyapa was just a big homo eyeing off the Buddhas fat arse for some man on man action.  These texts can be interpreted twenty different ways.  Just sounds like nonsense to me.
  its just a way of relating an idea, whether or not the story is true or the interpretation is accurate is of no consequence
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
i didnt write that.. but ya its pretty cool !

  its just a way of relating an idea, whether or not the story is true or the interpretation is accurate is of no consequence
Sounds like something Jimi Hendrix would say!!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: dr.chimps on November 01, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
All we need is Senor Falcon to help move this thread from the incomprehensible to the ungraspable.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:35:35 AM
All we need is Senor Falcon to help move this thread from the incomprehensible to the ungraspable.
;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:39:18 AM
All we need is Senor Falcon to help move this thread from the incomprehensible to the ungraspable.
Just as the highest and the lowest notes are equally inaudible, so perhaps, is the greatest sense and the greatest nonsense equally unintelligible.
Allan Watts

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 11:41:01 AM
Damn,I`m becoming enlightened!!  :)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:42:32 AM
Damn,I`m becoming enlightened!!  :)

In criticizing, the teacher is hoping to teach. That's all.
Bankei

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 11:55:19 AM
In criticizing, the teacher is hoping to teach. That's all.
Bankei

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment


Wait, have you come back down to my level or are you above me again?  Hmmmmmmmm.....maybe this is a buddhist test?  Will I need a scantron?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
I know you didnt write that.. but na its not cool !

  its just a way of relating an idea, whether or not the story is true or the interpretation is accurate is of no consequence
I know  its just a way of relating an idea, but you would have to be a space cadet to appreciate that type of literature.  You do know that story is a recount of early psychedelic experiences.  This is well documented.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 11:57:59 AM
He may be a buddhist, at least he looks like Buddha...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 11:58:16 AM
Wait, have you come back down to my level or are you above me again?  Hmmmmmmmm.....maybe this is a buddhist test?  Will I need a scantron?
You know I live in Australia, we dont have scantron's here.  There are no tests in buddhism, only in life.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 11:58:37 AM
I always liked how Buddha's and Yoda's names sounded alike and how they spoke somewhat alike.  Wait!!  Did Buddha have a lightsaber?  Are all buddhists issued lightsabers?!!!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 12:00:44 PM
You know I live in Australia, we dont have scantron's here.  There are no tests in buddhism, only in life.

I have a lot to learn!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 12:01:48 PM
Damn,I`m becoming enlightened!!  :)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: tbombz on November 01, 2011, 12:01:52 PM
I know  its just a way of relating an idea, but you would have to be a space cadet to appreciate that type of literature.  You do know that story is a recount of early psychedelic experiences.  This is well documented.
not so sure about that. there has been much philosophy written by men of sober backgrounds that far exceeds what most psychadelics using meditating monks have came up with.  in fact id say all the best philosophy has been done by men who have, at the most, partaken in a bit ofalchol from time to time, and nothing else.  although i do understand your sentiment,  find it hard to understand how a person could reach such depths without drug assistance... but me thinks im just unable to grasp the workings of those who are more well endowed than i am.. and also am yet unaware of the effects of 30,40, 50 years of life on the mind.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 12:05:12 PM
I have a lot to learn!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 12:05:19 PM
this thread is like an ATM but there's no fees and it's chocked full of wisdom waiting to be withdrawn!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
Way to dumb down thousands of years of monastic study on living and dying by men infinitely more determined than you to seek salvation and elevate themselves to a position to be of worth to all living beings.  I am sure the Dalai Lama has a similar take on things.

sigh....remember...I am working towards Nirvana..I haven't reached it yet..I still have the same human weaknesses like everyone else......I like banging chicks...what can I say?..but I am very discerning and don't just sleep with anything....maybe the day will come when I won't have this need but it ain't here yet.....I am single again and taking advantage.....but I try to not take advantage of women and I try to do the right things by them

Again....Buddhism is a LIFELONG PROCESS unlike other religions where you can become born again right away
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 12:08:18 PM
but me thinks im just unable to grasp the workings of those who are more well endowed than i am..
Are you stoned man, serious, is this post serious. Are you seriously envious of other mens large genitals
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 12:10:48 PM
In criticizing, the teacher is hoping to teach. That's all.
Bankei

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment


I've got one as well......"A great warrior can conquer an army in battle....but he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all"

one of my favorite sayings
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Man of Steel on November 01, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
I've got one as well......"A great warrior can conquer an army in battle....but he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all"

one of my favorite sayings

I read that one of the Jersey Shore kids practices buddhism.....a catholic buddhist I believe....that's fun!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
Seems to me that Buddhism would take a lot of work to perfect,if perfecting it was possible...........so much so, that while working at achieving Nirvana,you`d miss out on a lot of fine hoes!!

Just try to do the next right thing and get on with living.

It's possible, but it's either life for buddhism or none. Count me out. I rather acknowledge good and bad and be human than try to achieve nirvana. But make no mistake about it it's possible and some people do it to some degree.

For example there was a karateka who meditated alot in order to achieve the perfect skill. Later on he needed vaticans help to be excorcised (and it helped). Meditation can be dangerous because it may open yourself to be influenced by bad spirits, not some energies lol. Energy is a very simple consept as is science, it's just a logical way to communicate and translate. Spirits are beyond all that.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 12:28:16 PM
It's possible, but it's either life for buddhism or none. Count me out. I rather acknowledge good and bad and be human than try to achieve nirvana. But make no mistake about it it's possible and some people do it to some degree.

For example there was a karateka who meditated alot in order to achieve the perfect skill. Later on he needed vaticans help to ge excorcised (and it helped). Meditation can be dangerous because it may open yourself to be influenced by bad spirits, not some energies lol. Energy is a very simple consept as is science, it's just a logical way to communicate and translate. Spirits are beyond all that.
Thats some fucked up shit right there!  ;D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: wes on November 01, 2011, 12:40:45 PM
"Ah,grasshopper.........when you can snatch the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave."

(http://800biz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/kung-fu_tv-master_po-young_grasshopper-300x199.jpg)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 01:01:42 PM
meditate this, buddha guy  :P (yes I know it's from jailbait, I didn't accidently leave the "jailbait" signature there so I could claim I banged that chick, damn, calm down, guy!)
Whats this?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 01:04:23 PM
The blabla is strong in this one....
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 01:05:50 PM
The blabla is strong in this one....

Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
wrap some internet courses, fancy words and comic books together. Mix it all up for 5 minutes and put it on a plate = this thread.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 01:10:01 PM
Buddha who ?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 01:16:53 PM
wrap some internet courses, fancy words and comic books together. Mix it all up for 5 minutes and put it on a plate = this thread.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
But seriously: I used to be into Shambhala meditation, and the writings of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, quite intensely actually. Meditation like that is really hard work, but it changes your way of thinking, you tame the dragon.
Nowadays I'm more into Mindfullness, but without the Shambala I don't think I could make much out of it...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: johnnynoname on November 01, 2011, 01:41:57 PM
uh oh.......




....it's happening again
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Wiggs on November 01, 2011, 01:51:01 PM
;D
Good way to keep a thread alive - TITTIES YIPPEE

Aw man, the middle brunette....Wowsers..... I'd crush that raw.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 01:58:17 PM
Aw man, the middle brunette....Wowsers..... I'd crush that raw.

wiggs why do you avoid my qustions? it's not because I'm a fag that I ask how's it going with you... yeah I know, it doesn't matter... but nothing matters, right.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:10:15 PM
I have no qualms with Buddhists or any other religions.

They can all continue to practice their faiths, live life as best as possible and rest assured that they will all go to heaven so as long as they accept our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

"1"
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: devilsmile on November 01, 2011, 02:11:11 PM
I have no qualms with Buddhists or any other religions.

They can all continue to practice their faiths, live life as best as possible and rest assured that they will all go to heaven so as long as they accept our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

"1"

god bless america.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:14:13 PM
god bless america.

Amen!

"1"
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:14:23 PM
I have no qualms with Buddhists or any other religions.

They can all continue to practice their faiths, live life as best as possible and rest assured that they will all go to heaven so as long as they accept our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

"1"
Your kidding right ?  Yeah, you're kidding.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
Your kidding right ?  Yeah, you're kidding.

Of course I'm kidding!

Dutchguy, did you already forget about me?

"1"
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:17:23 PM
Of course I'm kidding!

Dutchguy, did you already forget about me?

"1"
Yeah right had a rough day, lots of complaining patients, ungratefull dogs they are...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: OneMoreRep on November 01, 2011, 02:19:09 PM
Yeah right had a rough day, lots of complaining patients, ungratefull dogs they are...

You know what I say, nothing that a large, intravenous bolus of Potassium can't cure..

"1"
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 02:26:20 PM
Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.
"1"
Who's that?
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 01, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
You know what I say, nothing that a large, intravenous bolus of Potassium can't cure..

"1"
My patients are not physically ill, they're just complaining assholes...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Parker on November 01, 2011, 02:53:17 PM
It's possible, but it's either life for buddhism or none. Count me out. I rather acknowledge good and bad and be human than try to achieve nirvana. But make no mistake about it it's possible and some people do it to some degree.

For example there was a karateka who meditated alot in order to achieve the perfect skill. Later on he needed vaticans help to be excorcised (and it helped). Meditation can be dangerous because it may open yourself to be influenced by bad spirits, not some energies lol. Energy is a very simple consept as is science, it's just a logical way to communicate and translate. Spirits are beyond all that.
Dude was on that astral plane, and met some turbulence (astral entities).
Either he didn't realize that they were there or, he allowed himself to be open to them. There are precautions

it's said that when we get drunk we allow spirits to take hold of our bodies, as our own spirit is temporary "out of the driver's seat"---as only one spirit at a time can be in the driver's seat...

Need more info on this karateka...
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: tbombz on November 01, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Are you stoned man, serious, is this post serious. Are you seriously envious of other mens large genitals
lmao, the term endowed refers to a gift bestowed, i was using it in reference to mental endowment.. thought that was quite obvious
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 01, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
It is a interesting concept I have studied for Buddhism a number of years. It all boils down to all religions teach the basic same principles so the the best religion = no religion.  Do the right things which is instilled in us at birth and accept what the universe gives you.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 01, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
It is a interesting concept I have studied for Buddhism a number of years. It all boils down to all religions teach the basic same principles so the the best religion = no religion.  Do the right things which is instilled in us at birth and accept what the universe gives you.

accepting what the universe gives you is Buddhism.....LOL....that book "The Secret" was basically Buddhism wrapped up in marketing
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Parker on November 01, 2011, 04:06:28 PM
Who's that?
Great, so they misspell "you're" as well.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 01, 2011, 04:39:24 PM
lmao, the term endowed refers to a gift bestowed, i was using it in reference to mental endowment.. thought that was quite obvious
I know, I just seen an opening for a bit.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Tapeworm on November 01, 2011, 10:09:12 PM
this thread is like an ATM but there's no fees and it's chocked full of wisdom waiting to be withdrawn!

I thought I did alright.

- I likened Eastern gnosticism to Heraclitean and Platonic views.  True?  False?  Insightful?  Obvious?  Plain stupid?

- Differentiated between religions with with a basis in inquiry vs those based on revelation.  Right?  Wrong?  Impossible?  Imact on the roles of faith and reason?

- Ate a low carb dinner
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Deadpool on November 02, 2011, 02:42:02 PM
was-actually sat in temple

not anymore...wandering mind... :)
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 02, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
As a Buddhist, you don't have a be a peace-lovin tree hugger....LOL...you can fight if you feel threatened..you just cannot initiate said action and you should never be so angry as to do so.........in Buddhist teachings if someone is making threatening gestures toward you..you are to stay perfectly still and relax..don't egg the person on by returning his aggressiveness...give the guy a chance to back down or calm down but if the person attacks you, you are free to whip his ass if you choose to do so.
Sounds like the perfect strategy for an ass whipping, last dude who waited for me to strike, got KTFO
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 02, 2011, 06:19:38 PM
I've got one as well......"A great warrior can conquer an army in battle....but he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all"

one of my favorite sayings
Personally, I'd rather slay an army in battle like a mighty GOD warrior than to conquer myself.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 02, 2011, 06:29:01 PM
Sounds like the perfect strategy for an ass whipping, last dude who waited for me to strike, got KTFO

I disagree.....you see..you are letting your ego get the best of you....you are so intent on kicking people's ass that again..you are being overly aggressive...which is a prescription for possibly getting your own ass kicked...

There is nothing wrong with waiting it out to see if the guy hits you first....as I have said, many guys have backed down when all I did was stand there and watch him.....if he did make a threatening gesture then I definitely would have released violence on his ass....

But really it doesn't matte if he beats you or not....if he did so what?.does that make you any less of a man????
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 02, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
Personally, I'd rather slay an army in battle like a mighty GOD warrior than to conquer myself.

again....and what does all of that killing ACTUALLY get you?...you feel good about yourself???...big deal
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 02, 2011, 06:33:52 PM
I disagree.....you see..you are letting your ego get the best of you....you are so intent on kicking people's ass that again..you are being overly aggressive...which is a prescription for possibly getting your own ass kicked...

There is nothing wrong with waiting it out to see if the guy hits you first....as I have said, many guys have backed down when all I did was stand there and watch him.....if he did make a threatening gesture then I definitely would have released violence on his ass....

But really it doesn't matte if he beats you or not....if he did so what?.does that make you any less of a man????
See the problem is you are assuming someone is going to make a threating gesture, if I wanted to fight you, there would be no threating gesture, just mayhem, and the fact you waited for me to attack first, puts you at a massive disadvantage - it is just a poor survival strategy is all I am saying, and I believe it is good for a man to lose a fight, just not too many of them.  Men reflect after an ass beating, and reflection is necessary for character growth.  Look what happened to the monks in Tibet with the same attitude you have, they were even kicked out of their own country because they were too afraid to fight.  Yeah, buddhism works, those dudes cant even protect their country.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 02, 2011, 06:38:21 PM
again....and what does all of that killing ACTUALLY get you?...you feel good about yourself???...big deal
All that killing gets you pumped, can you imagine the adrenaline from hacking, slashing, killing, raping, burning and the glory of victory.  The feast afterwards would be sent from the gods themselves.  And I would not only feel good about myself, my name would ring throughout history, and women would flock to my cock, and it would be sucked with an intensity worthy of the Great One Man Army Slayer.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 02, 2011, 06:39:10 PM
See the problem is you are assuming someone is going to make a threating gesture, if I wanted to fight you, there would be no threating gesture, just mayhem, and the fact you waited for me to attack first, puts you at a massive disadvantage - it is just a poor survival strategy is all I am saying, and I believe it is good for a man to lose a fight, just not too many of them.  Men reflect after an ass beating, and reflection is necessary for character growth.  Look what happened to the monks in Tibet with the same attitude you have, they were even kicked out of their own country because they were too afraid to fight.  Yeah, buddhism works, those dudes cant even protect their country.

The Monks actually did the right thing....how were they going to fight the Chinese army???...they had practically no army of their own......they would have been slaughtered....better to live to fight another day...

also, if someone doesn't make a threatening gesture and just decided to attack then there is nothing you can do but fight...and fight well....but again..you have to take the ego out of the equation or else you are not a true Buddhist.....the ego wants to fight and prevail over others....so it can feel good about itself...but for many, they wind up getting killed or in jail....why bother?....walk away and go live life
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 02, 2011, 06:40:59 PM
All that killing gets you pumped, can you imagine the adrenaline from hacking, slashing, killing, raping, burning and the glory of victory.  The feast afterwards would be sent from the gods themselves.  And I would not only feel good about myself, my name would ring throughout history, and women would flock to my cock, and it would be sucked with an intensity worthy of the Great One Man Army Slayer.

ha..and that would be very temporary my friend..because you would then make yourself a target and the next warrior who comes along will then slay you...all the things you stated you would get can be gotten without the bloodshed
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: DK II on November 02, 2011, 06:52:40 PM
LOL at getbig buddhists.
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 02, 2011, 06:54:28 PM
LOL at getbig buddhists.

agreed :D
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: Radical Plato on November 02, 2011, 07:12:21 PM
ha..and that would be very temporary my friend..because you would then make yourself a target and the next warrior who comes along will then slay you...all the things you stated you would get can be gotten without the bloodshed
And what a magnificent glorious death that would be, to have stories told of my heroic actions in battle, to have women measure up there husbands to me.  Fuck Buddhism, for some reason, your arguments dont appeal to the Warrior spirit in me. I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power!
Title: Re: Any of you Buddhist?
Post by: andreisdaman on November 03, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
And what a magnificent glorious death that would be, to have stories told of my heroic actions in battle, to have women measure up there husbands to me.  Fuck Buddhism, for some reason, your arguments dont appeal to the Warrior spirit in me. I am Ripper... Tearer... Slasher... Gouger. I am the Teeth in the Darkness, the Talons in the Night. Mine is Strength... and Lust... and Power!


I'd rather live to a ripe old age than to die for nothing and have people brag about any exploits I might have which are dubious at best.....