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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2011/11/26/dashow-87-guest-ifbb-pro-legend-victor-richards-and-myself
IFBB PRO VICTOR RICHARDS ON THE DASHOW TOMORROW NIGHT 8 PM EAST COAST TIME. GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW AND HONOR TO TALK TO A LEGEND
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call in number its live 1 347 989 0710 white widow call in tough guy i ll be waiting . ciao
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Looking at how big this dude was back in th 80's and the fact that gh or slin was not that prevalent! do you think Victor built most of his mass on AAS? Therefore disproving the accepted believe that Gh is an essential part of getting to be 290lb mark in single digit bodyfat % 's?? ??? ???
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Imagine what he would have looked like if he took steroids.... :o :o :o :o
Great natural BB right there.
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Does vic richards come from money?
Takes a lot of cash to maintain that amount of muscle
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Does vic richards come from money?
Takes a lot of cash to maintain that amount of muscle
Actually he does. ;D
His parents are doctors.
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very original thread! never been discussed here before
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Test me anytime you want. I guarantee that Im clean. I`ve never used steroids in my life. I train six days a week and never take time off thats why I stay in top condition.{quote- victor richards video}
Yea right and bob paris love pussy.
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Ask him why he was scared to compete
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The guy was a genetic freak. A real mass monster
He never got the conditioning right and the posing sucked. Maybe he didn't stack trenbolona and hgh :).
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Test me anytime you want. I guarantee that Im clean. I`ve never used steroids in my life. I train six days a week and never take time off thats why I stay in top condition.{quote- victor richards video}
Yea right and bob paris love pussy.
paris did. Rod jackson was just his room-mate
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Actually he does. ;D
His parents are doctors.
I'd imagine the script pads would go missing all the time
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only on the traditional steroids, a lot of dbol. and a lot of food!!
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false advertising
(http://www.funxite.com/media/2116-big-show-wallpapers.jpg)
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paris did. Rod jackson was just his PLAY-mate
Fixed
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In 92 he stated that he would be mr O in the year 2000.....well..
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Some rare footage of a guest posing:
Dwarfing the ruling Mr. Olympia:
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A prelude to Adrain..
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2011/11/26/dashow-87-guest-ifbb-pro-legend-victor-richards-and-myself
IFBB PRO VICTOR RICHARDS ON THE DASHOW TOMORROW NIGHT 8 PM EAST COAST TIME. GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW AND HONOR TO TALK TO A LEGEND
That legend never did shit..
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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2011/11/26/dashow-87-guest-ifbb-pro-legend-victor-richards-and-myself
IFBB PRO VICTOR RICHARDS ON THE DASHOW TOMORROW NIGHT 8 PM EAST COAST TIME. GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW AND HONOR TO TALK TO A LEGEND
(http://reaction.ralfvandenboom.nl/img/SdpvBnlT3L.jpg)
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He's not a pro. He hardly competed. Do your research.
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I stand corrected. He is a pro. He won some show in Uganda or some shit like that agaist a bunch people who weighed about 135.
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I stand corrected. He is a pro. He won some show in Uganda or some shit like that agaist a bunch people who weighed about 135.
Actually, it was Nigeria.
Richards complained about the NPC system trying to keep him down, so he used his dual citizenship to win Nigeria's national championship to turn pro in 1992.
The "legend" has a legendary temper, as in smashing his trophy when he lost to Rich Gaspari at a state-level show (so the story goes).
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Actually, it was Nigeria.
Richards complained about the NPC system trying to keep him down, so he used his dual citizenship to win Nigeria's national championship to turn pro in 1992.
The "legend" has a legendary temper, as in smashing his trophy when he lost to Rich Gaspari at a state-level show (so the story goes).
Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
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Gotta check it out..I have always been so impressed with him
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The Chocolate Marshmellow....
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Wasn't his father a doctor? Victor was able to milk the old man for money while sleeping till noon and eating large amounts of food. I thought I read somewhere that his dad thought Victor was a failure or some shit. Makes sense why he didn't want to compete against the best of the best. He didn't want to lose and in turn make his father right.
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I stand corrected. He is a pro. He won some show in Uganda or some shit like that agaist a bunch people who weighed about 135.
No...I believe you were right the first time. If you never competed as a pro, then you couldn't be a "IFBB Pro"...
he may have " earned" an opportunity to become a pro via that ridiculous show he won...but having chosen to never compete against the worlds best...all he became was fodder for the Internet, and a amateur that stayed an amateur.
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Victor took a shitload of roids and walked around in permanent offseason mode and he is considered a legend for this, i guess all the 300lbs juice up off season bodybuilders in the gym are legends also.
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I know plenty of big freaky off season gym rats that are so huge you would say dam this guy could be mr o, but let him cut down to contest weight and its a different story, that is why i am not a fan of victor, if he could get into contest shape and still be that big and freaky then he would have had proved that he is a real pro bodybuilder but what he turned out to be was another big gym rat.
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Saw him guest pose in the late-'90s. BIG dude. All the way big dude. But as to his suggestions that he's clean, yeah, sure, Victor.
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Actually he does. ;D
His parents are witch doctors.
Fixed.
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He had better arms and legs than Dorian...back look weak, chest look little bit small...the dick, I don't know.
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He had better arms and legs than Dorian...back look weak, chest look little bit small...the dick, I don't know.
Yeah his chest is only 4 times thicker than Dorian's, what a pussy-assed homo.
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Yeah his chest is only 4 times thicker than Dorian's, what a pussy-assed homo.
wanna slide your dick between them? ;D
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Actually he does. ;D
His parents are doctors.
Lottery kid.
"Mum, don't forget my test depot and make sure to sprinkle some Stevia on my breakfast fetuses before you leave!"
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No...I believe you were right the first time. If you never competed as a pro, then you couldn't be a "IFBB Pro"...
he may have " earned" an opportunity to become a pro via that ridiculous show he won...but having chosen to never compete against the worlds best...all he became was fodder for the Internet, and a amateur that stayed an amateur.
I think you're being a little hard on him Chick.....maybe he just didn't want to take the boatload of "supplements" guys have to take or maybe he just didn't want the grind of competing....especially if you don't need the money.....
I know you had to fight your way out of NY and up the ranks but maybe the guy didn't have the mental strength to be like you
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I stand corrected. He is a pro. He won some show in Uganda or some shit like that agaist a bunch people who weighed about 135.
He won the mr coconut 1981...
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I think you're being a little hard on him Chick.....maybe he just didn't want to take the boatload of "supplements" guys have to take or maybe he just didn't want the grind of competing....especially if you don't need the money.....
I know you had to fight your way out of NY and up the ranks but maybe the guy didn't have the mental strength to be like you
its worse he tooks the roids but never competed, even dumber...
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No...I believe you were right the first time. If you never competed as a pro, then you couldn't be a "IFBB Pro"...
he may have " earned" an opportunity to become a pro via that ridiculous show he won...but having chosen to never compete against the worlds best...all he became was fodder for the Internet, and a amateur that stayed an amateur.
did he get a pro-card?
what else would it take for him to enter a pro show other than pay your master's the blood fee and walk on stage in whatever condition?
you on the other hand had to lick balls for many years to become a pro- but then of course you realized nothing had changed- you still had to keep licking balls which you did with relish as you had become accustomed - as it clearly fitted your personality
victor may be crazy but he got a pro card without ball licking by playing the system better than you
i am sure it hurts to think that you were outsmarted by a loon
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
you got sloppy seconds from victor ahah
i guess that coaching all those young male athletes is what does it for you
been tea partying a lot fuckwitt?? who are you gonna vote for in the primaries? I would bet Cain, he probably dated your ex wife too
weird fetish you got going there coach
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I know plenty of big freaky off season gym rats that are so huge you would say dam this guy could be mr o, but let him cut down to contest weight and its a different story, that is why i am not a fan of victor, if he could get into contest shape and still be that big and freaky then he would have had proved that he is a real pro bodybuilder but what he turned out to be was another big gym rat.
Looked pretty fucking cut in many of his pictures. Mostly just holding a ton of water.
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LISTEN TO VIC LIVE !!!! STARTING SOON 8 PM EAST COAST TIME
LISTEN TO HIM LIVE ON MY SHOW
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2011/11/26/dashow-87-guest-ifbb-pro-legend-victor-richards-and-myself
Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA, USA
Born: 1964
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Height: 5'10"
Off Season Weight: 360 lbs
Competition Weight: 330 lbs
Arms: 26"
Waist: 36"
Thighs: 37"
Calves: 24"
Neck: 22 1/2"
Shoulder width: 43"
Chest: 67"
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Shut the fuck up dummy.
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Shut the fuck up dummy.
FUCK YOU PUSSY
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FUCK YOU PUSSY
Victor talks more bullshit than you do if you believe those measurements Springer ::)
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LISTEN TO VIC LIVE !!!! STARTING SOON 8 PM EAST COAST TIME
LISTEN TO HIM LIVE ON MY SHOW
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2011/11/26/dashow-87-guest-ifbb-pro-legend-victor-richards-and-myself
Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA, USA
Born: 1964
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Height: 5'10"
Off Season Weight: 360 lbs
Competition Weight: 330 lbs
Arms: 26"
Waist: 36"
Thighs: 37"
Calves: 24"
Neck: 22 1/2"
Shoulder width: 43"
Chest: 67"
Cock: half way down my throat
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At least Victor's calves are real.
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Does anybody actually believe any of these measurements?
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Off Season Weight: 360 lbs
Competition Weight: 330 lbs
There is the whole problem in a nutshell.
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Yes, what competition?
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Yes, what competition?
The 1986 Outer Mongolia Open.... strong 3rd place got him an IFBB card.
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I know why Springer likes this bloated turd, looking at this pic it looks as though he has spent alot of his time on his knees in front of oldmen just like D Springer himself, look at the state of those carpet burnt calloused knees . :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=403379.0;attach=443372;image)
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Arms: 26 inches. pretty impressive.
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lol, say what you want about the "measurements" that is still one of the most impressive pictures i've ever seen.
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Are we really discussing this has been who never was cause he s being "interviewed" by some aids ridden balding retarded homo on his shity "internet radio show" that has an estimate average audience of 10 people ?
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lol, say what you want about the "measurements" that is still one of the most impressive pictures i've ever seen.
holy fuck... Squadfather is finally out of jail!
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holy fuck... Squadfather has finally been released out of jail!
lol, what can i say Uberman, it must be my lack of caring parents and bad upbringing....all kidding aside i hope you've been doing well.
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Squadfather is back?
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lol, what can i say Uberman, it must be my lack of caring parents and bad upbringing....all kidding aside i hope you've been doing well.
Haha not buying it, you re back since only some hours and are being nice to everyone trying to fit in again, you got some nerves after the biblical beating you got, but it wont last long, i give you one week before you get destroyed by everyone on here and start insulting them all over again.
So you think most forgot about you and your past on here and that you re now as fresh as a virgin, acting just as if nothing happened? hahahaha.
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Haha not buying it, you re back since only some hours and are being nice to everyone trying to fit in again, but it wont last long, i give you one week before you get destroyed by everyone on here and start insulting them.
So you think most forgot about you and your past on here and that you re now as fresh as a virgin, acting just as if nothing happened? hahahaha.
lol, i can feel the love already. ;D
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What's next? mickey arvilla and laura lee going back together and posting pics of their sorry washed up asses in every single thread, robert ziruolo posting pics of himself naked posing with handguns, showing off his new tribal tattoo and pretending to be a "sucessful" webdesigner ?
Welcome 5 fucking years ago.
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did he get a pro-card?
what else would it take for him to enter a pro show other than pay your master's the blood fee and walk on stage in whatever condition?
you on the other hand had to lick balls for many years to become a pro- but then of course you realized nothing had changed- you still had to keep licking balls which you did with relish as you had become accustomed - as it clearly fitted your personality
victor may be crazy but he got a pro card without ball licking by playing the system better than you
i am sure it hurts to think that you were outsmarted by a loon
I see youre not smart enough to get it right...Victor "won" a contest that was staged for the sole reasoning to get him a pro card without having to beat anyone...which he never used anyway.
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What's next? mickey arvilla and laura lee going back together and posting pics of their sorry washed up asses in every single thread, robert ziruolo posting pics of himself naked carrying handguns and pretending to be a "sucessful" webdesigner ?
why are you so angry man? i've noticed some posts of yours over the last few months and you're very negative about everything, 9 out of every ten people had horrible parenting and bad upbringing except for you who was raised with kid gloves and nurtured and brought to church every Sunday and Wednesday and the reason the world is going to hell in a handbasket is because mommy and daddy didnt show them any love, have i got your schtick down?
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lol, what can i say Uberman, it must be my lack of caring parents and bad upbringing....all kidding aside i hope you've been doing well.
It's good to see the FAT MAN from Ballwin back on the scene. 8)
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lol, i can feel the love already. ;D
welcome home bro, great to see you posting again
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The true King of Getbig hath returned. Welcome home Dave!!
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Are we really discussing this has been who never was cause he s being "interviewed" by some aids ridden balding retarded homo on his shity "internet radio show" that has an estimate average audience of 10 people ?
I would really like to see you in person (no homo)
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Are we really discussing this has been who never was cause he s being "interviewed" by some aids ridden balding retarded homo on his shity "internet radio show" that has an estimate average audience of 10 people ?
lol
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43 inches wide. over 3 and a half feet wide shoulders. shoulders are wider than 2 average guys standing next to each other?
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26 inch arms seem to be the norm these days.
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the fibo vid of yates and richards together shows that richards was huge and yates sized but not as big as those numbers posted. he was no where near as hard as yates either (no homo).
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did he get a pro-card?
what else would it take for him to enter a pro show other than pay your master's the blood fee and walk on stage in whatever condition?
you on the other hand had to lick balls for many years to become a pro- but then of course you realized nothing had changed- you still had to keep licking balls which you did with relish as you had become accustomed - as it clearly fitted your personality
victor may be crazy but he got a pro card without ball licking by playing the system better than you
i am sure it hurts to think that you were outsmarted by a loon
That has nothing to do with smarts. Chick got his pro card by competing against the best amateurs in the USA. Richards took (what some would call) the chicken way out, by using his dual-citizenship and winning a show that a crackhead could have won.
Notice how we've never seen any other Nigeria national champion turn pro, before or since Richards did. And, as stated earlier, when Richards loses to smaller but better-conditioned competitors, he throws a hissy fit.
Furthermore, he got an undeserved special invite to the '92 Olympia; yet he STILL didn't show up.
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360? Haha, is not very smart if he thinks people will believe that.
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360? Haha, is not very smart if he thinks people will believe that.
Well look who started the thread :D
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Lottery kid.
"Mum, don't forget my test depot and make sure to sprinkle some Stevia on my breakfast fetuses before you leave!"
I laughed out loud at this one......funny stuff! ;D
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Competition Weight: 330 lbs
Arms: 26"
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
Wait what...
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Maybe you should post a third thread about it.
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
Hold it right there partner. Pull this cab over or I'll throw up in your back seat.
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
vic richard dated you ex wife ?
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
Wo, wo hold the phone.
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HAHA YOU EX WIFE WAS A NIG LOVER !!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
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Looking at how big this dude was back in th 80's and the fact that gh or slin was not that prevalent! do you think Victor built most of his mass on AAS? Therefore disproving the accepted believe that Gh is an essential part of getting to be 290lb mark in single digit bodyfat % 's?? ??? ???
Never competed in any pro show.
He doesn't have any record in actual pro contests.
Big guy no question but NOT a real pro bodybuilder.
How great would any pro athlete really be if he never played in a pro game?
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Never competed in any pro show.
He doesn't have any record in actual pro contests.
Big guy no question but NOT a real pro bodybuilder.
How great would any pro athlete really be if he never played in a pro game?
Its an interesting question. However Bobby Jones(golfer) won 7 major championships but never turned professional. Saying something like "sports are a hobby not a profession". He quit competing at the age of 30. And became a lawyer and helped build the great Augusta National golf course. The dude is one interesting mofo.
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still vomiting.
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I see youre not smart enough to get it right...Victor "won" a contest that was staged for the sole reasoning to get him a pro card without having to beat anyone...which he never used anyway.
i got it alright.
You on the other hand are pretending not to
The guy played the system better than you and got his win -rigged for sure but that can be said about how tons of other people got their pro win in the last 20 years
he decided never to compete but that is another story. If I get a driver's license and decide not to drive I still hold a drivers license capisce paisano?
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i got it alright.
You on the other hand are pretending not to
The guy played the system better than you and got his win -rigged for sure but that can be said about how tons of other people got their pro win in the last 20 years
he decided never to compete but that is another story. If I get a driver's license and decide not to drive I still hold a drivers license capisce paisano?
Remember the glassed eyed wonderboy with no back? He was "GIVEN" a pro card.
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I saw him at a seminar and he was really fat and out of shape! stayed covered up the whole time & was very disappointing! When the question was asked why he didnt compete he said he didnt want to turn out like people like mike menzer who he allege's ran down the motorway with no clothes on and says competing just fucks up your head!!!! ::)
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I saw him at a seminar and he was really fat and out of shape! stayed covered up the whole time & was very disappointing! When the question was asked why he didnt compete he said he didnt want to turn out like people like mike menzer who he allege's ran down the motorway with no clothes on and says competing just fucks up your head!!!! ::)
Most recent pics of him show him with huge and fairly lean arms...but, I guess it depends on what your definition of fat and out of shape is.
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i got it alright.
You on the other hand are pretending not to
The guy played the system better than you and got his win -rigged for sure but that can be said about how tons of other people got their pro win in the last 20 years
he decided never to compete but that is another story. If I get a driver's license and decide not to drive I still hold a drivers license capisce paisano?
Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
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didn't he do the teen nationals years before he started getting publicity and smash his trophy when he lost?
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Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
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Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
Since you both are "Pros", if you were in your "prime" and Vic was in his "prime", both of you dieted down to your best, who'd win?
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Since you both are "Pros", if you were in your "prime" and Vic was in his "prime", both of you dieted down to your best, who'd win?
Perhaps Vic, but he never had what it takes to diet down to his best. That's the point exactly.. 8)
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Perhaps Vic, but he never had what it takes to diet down to his best. That's the point exactly.. 8)
True, but he did stand on stage with Dorian, Dillet, Nasser, Flex and hold his own, even though it was offseason.
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Since you both are "Pros", if you were in your "prime" and Vic was in his "prime", both of you dieted down to your best, who'd win?
Since I suppose his "best" dieted down wasnt good enough to step on stage at the Nationals or USA..I guess the answer would be ME.
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Since I suppose his "best" dieted down wasnt good enough to step on stage at the Nationals or USA..I guess the answer would be ME.
Chick, Flex mag said back in the 80's that Benaziza's first contest was the world championships, which he won and turned pro. he was from Algeria and because they had no national contest he automatically got to represent his country. i think they even said his second contest was the mr. O.
do you recall this?
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Chick, Flex mag said back in the 80's that Benaziza's first contest was the world championships, which he won and turned pro. he was from Algeria and because they had no national contest he automatically got to represent his country. i think they even said his second contest was the mr. O.
do you recall this?
No...but if he won the Worlds, then he deserved respect, and a pro card...
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Since I suppose his "best" dieted down wasnt good enough to step on stage at the Nationals or USA..I guess the answer would be ME.
There you have it...I would look forward the Chick vs. Vic Richards contest...
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No...but if he won the Worlds, then he deserved respect, and a pro card...
sorry, i wasn't suggesting otherwise. it just reminded me because Vic supposedly won the nigeria nationals, which really should have given him the right to compete in the amateur world championships for a chance to win his pro card.
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There you have it...I would look forward the Chick vs. Vic Richards contest...
Little late for that, lol...
We did almost compete...back in 1987, Nationals...my National debut. I remember seeing him in person at the show, but he didnt end up competing (of course)...I ended up in 5th. Phil Hill won the HW class, Shawn Ray the Overall
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sorry, i wasn't suggesting otherwise. it just reminded me because Vic supposedly won the nigeria nationals, which really should have given him the right to compete in the amateur world championships for a chance to win his pro card.
Didnt think you were...
If memory serves,, Vic won some made up Mr. Nigeria show, which was the first time it was staged...and was trying to get a pro card from it, which was denied from Manion, as he would have needed to go on to the Worlds as you mentioned...
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Didnt think you were...
If memory serves,, Vic won some made up Mr. Nigeria show, which was the first time it was staged...and was trying to get a pro card from it, which was denied from Manion, as he would have needed to go on to the Worlds as you mentioned...
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ya, seemed trumped up, there are a lot of countries in Europe that have amazing bodybuilders and their nationals aren't pro qualifiers. IFBB should have just given him a 'special invite' to the Olympia like they did for Mendenhall, who didn't use it anyway. and have the Nigerian champs all been offered pro cards since? no
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Didnt think you were...
If memory serves,, Vic won some made up Mr. Nigeria show, which was the first time it was staged...and was trying to get a pro card from it, which was denied from Manion, as he would have needed to go on to the Worlds as you mentioned...
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ya, seemed trumped up, there are a lot of countries in Europe that have amazing bodybuilders and their nationals aren't pro qualifiers. IFBB should have just given him a 'special invite' to the Olympia like they did for Mendenhall, who didn't use it anyway. and have the Nigerian champs all been offered pro cards since? no
I don't remember MM ever getting a special invite....perhaps Joe WANTED him to get one, but it would have been frowned upon. I do remember Jeff King wanting one based on his merits of his AAU titles, but he too didn't feel like putting it on the line at the Nationals...
Too bad, would have been cool to see these guys compete against the nations best....
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Didnt think you were...
If memory serves,, Vic won some made up Mr. Nigeria show, which was the first time it was staged...and was trying to get a pro card from it, which was denied from Manion, as he would have needed to go on to the Worlds as you mentioned...
Manion not happy with backdoor, underhanded ways, who'd have thought?
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I don't remember MM ever getting a special invite....perhaps Joe WANTED him to get one, but it would have been frowned upon. I do remember Jeff King wanting one based on his merits of his AAU titles, but he too didn't feel like putting it on the line at the Nationals...
Too bad, would have been cool to see these guys compete against the nations best....
certain NABBA universe winners were given IFBB pro cards, others were not. seems like european NABBA universe winners like Buchanon, Kawak, Clairmonte, Fox, even John Brown - an American living in Europe. but Americans who won it had to come back and qualify even though they were already MR. Universe over there. Mike Quinn is the only NABBA U winner that i can think of that came back to win the USA's. King said no.
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certain NABBA universe winners were given IFBB pro cards, others were not. seems like european NABBA universe winners like Buchanon, Kawak, Clairmonte, Fox, even John Brown - an American living in Europe. but Americans who won it had to come back and qualify even though they were already MR. Universe over there. Mike Quinn is the only NABBA U winner that i can think of that came back to win the USA's. King said no.
Thats because of the weird system the europeans have...you have to be given a letter of reccomondation from the IFBB affiliate in whatever country, even after you win the world championships...
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HAHA YOU EX WIFE WAS A NIG LOVER !!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
Learned from your mom
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Turned out to be a good thread......very informative.
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he looks like shit imo, big guy with big muscles but he dont look good
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he looks like shit imo, big guy with big muscles but he dont look good
actually I think he looks NORMAL....its how a guy with muscles and big structure SHOULD look..not freakish like the BB'ers of today
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Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
your analogy is flawed
what test did victor had to pass to step on a pro show after the Nigeria win?
AFAIK none. But since you know all the inside stuff, maybe you could let us know. Did he have to blow someone? do a little private muscle posing,...
standing by the ice machine at the mirage?
please let us know about this extra test...
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your analogy is flawed
what test did victor had to pass to step on a pro show after the Nigeria win?
AFAIK none. But since you know all the inside stuff, maybe you could let us know. Did he have to blow someone? do a little private muscle posing,...
standing by the ice machine at the mirage?
please let us know about this extra test...
"as far as you know" is where you fail...
He would have had to go on to the World Championships, as has been already stated...He didnt, and wasnt "granted" any pro card without going through the proper qualification process....
Odd that you were hoping there was some homosexual twist to it, sorry to let you down...
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Hold it right there partner. Pull this cab over or I'll throw up in your back seat.
It's true. After we divorced and after she broke up with her girlfriend. Wasn't too long ago (about a year ago) she dated Rory.
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Little late for that, lol...
We did almost compete...back in 1987, Nationals...my National debut. I remember seeing him in person at the show, but he didnt end up competing (of course)...I ended up in 5th. Phil Hill won the HW class, Shawn Ray the Overall
Chick, did you see Victor R. training a lot of Golds during your time there?
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It's true. After we divorced and after she broke up with her girlfriend. Wasn't too long ago (about a year ago) she dated Rory.
tell us more about said girlfriend?
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Chick, did you see Victor R. training a lot of Golds during your time there?
Never
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Chick, did you see Victor R. training a lot of Golds during your time there?
He was training at Bulldog Gym during most of the 80's.
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It's true. After we divorced and after she broke up with her girlfriend. Wasn't too long ago (about a year ago) she dated Rory.
you said she dated Vic - what does this rory got to do with that?
you mean that after your wife left you, she went lesbian , then went black and finally went rory- rory who?
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you said she dated Vic - what does this rory got to do with that?
you mean that after your wife left you, she went lesbian , then went black and finally went rory- rory who?
Yes...and the Rory (Liedelmeyer) thing was just some interesting trivia.
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Yes...and the Rory (Liedelmeyer) thing was just some interesting trivia.
Coach, you mean to tell us, you drive women so crazy as to go lesbian?
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Victor Richards made a good choice in not competing, he didn't get tangled up in the bullshit between alot of the pro's that you see today. The IFBB didn't need Vic to survive and Vic didn't need the IFBB to survive. He probably made the same sort of living as a pro without having to do all the depressing shit like nearly killing himself a week out from shows and he kept the happiness in his training and you can't blame a man for that. Alot of people seem bitter that he went off and did his own thing, dunno why ??? Its not like he was taking anyone Place in the magzines week in, week out!
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Victor Richards made a good choice in not competing, he didn't get tangled up in the bullshit between alot of the pro's that you see today. The IFBB didn't need Vic to survive and Vic didn't need the IFBB to survive. He probably made the same sort of living as a pro without having to do all the depressing shit like nearly killing himself a week out from shows and he kept the happiness in his training and you can't blame a man for that. Alot of people seem bitter that he went off and did his own thing, dunno why ??? Its not like he was taking anyone Place in the magzines week in, week out!
if thats the case then it's like Bob said, he's not really a pro.
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if thats the case then it's like Bob said, he's not really a pro.
Yeah I agree and Vic Richards would probably agree too. Not sure if he's ever tried to big himself up as a pro has he ??? I think the real agruement is, would he have done well as a pro??? Yeah i think he would
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Yes...and the Rory (Liedelmeyer) thing was just some interesting trivia.
well while you are still a right wing bigot, i must confess that I respect your frankness on this
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Victor Richards made a good choice in not competing, he didn't get tangled up in the bullshit between alot of the pro's that you see today. The IFBB didn't need Vic to survive and Vic didn't need the IFBB to survive. He probably made the same sort of living as a pro without having to do all the depressing shit like nearly killing himself a week out from shows and he kept the happiness in his training and you can't blame a man for that. Alot of people seem bitter that he went off and did his own thing, dunno why ??? Its not like he was taking anyone Place in the magzines week in, week out!
Richards kept running his mouth about the pros who were competing and how they were too narrow or didn't have this or that. They got sick of it and basically called him a coward. Weider all but picked him up and put him on the Olympia stage. But, Richards always had an excuse.
The gist seems to be that his ego can't take getting beat by smaller but ripped competitors (i.e. his tantrum after losing to Gaspari).
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very original thread! never been discussed here before
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I gotta admit that i am proud of the dude for bucking the establishment and doing things his own way....I'm sure that he's made some good change from guest posing and seminars plus personal appearances....and since he got paid then you can make an argument that he is a "pro"
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Big deal. You got his bio wrong. What does that say for the host?
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Does anybody actually believe any of these measurements?
Dude was big. Never seen him in person but judging by pictures his head and neck look as wide as a fire hydrant and he has definite signs of "bull like" genetics. Looks to me like a big mother fucker easily capable of holding 320- 330lbs of mass year round, just like the wizard with the glasses.
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Its an interesting question. However Bobby Jones(golfer) won 7 major championships but never turned professional. Saying something like "sports are a hobby not a profession". He quit competing at the age of 30. And became a lawyer and helped build the great Augusta National golf course. The dude is one interesting mofo.
That was a long time ago and you sir know your sports history but the analogy still fails.
Bobby Jones competed in and won several major chamionships while Victor never even competed in any major contest.
The Jones comparison would only work if Victor won the OLympia and told the promoter to keep the prize $$ or gave it to charity.
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Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
Well said Chick.
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Victor Richards made a good choice in not competing, he didn't get tangled up in the bullshit between alot of the pro's that you see today. The IFBB didn't need Vic to survive and Vic didn't need the IFBB to survive. He probably made the same sort of living as a pro without having to do all the depressing shit like nearly killing himself a week out from shows and he kept the happiness in his training and you can't blame a man for that. Alot of people seem bitter that he went off and did his own thing, dunno why ??? Its not like he was taking anyone Place in the magzines week in, week out!
I always felt he was huge and impressive. The simple truth is the guy was never a pro bodybuilder nor di her ever compete in any major contest against top bodybuilders. THUS, he is a myth not an actual pro.
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I loved the interview trevor smith did with him. ;)
The Early Days (by Trevor Smith)
The Early Days (by Trevor Smith)
O.K. O.K…..we all know that some of the biggest and freakiest men ever to compete in the
sport are names such as Nasser El Sonbaty, Dorian Yates, Jean Pierre Fux, Marcus Ruhl and
Greg Kovacs. In fact, Muscle Mag International and in particular it`s supplement company
Muscle-Tech, would have all believe that Greg Kovacs is the largest bodybuilder ever to
step on a competitive stage. Now while that may be the case going by sheer numbers—Gregg
is around 6`3" and competes between 320 and 330lbs—for my money, the most insane mass freak
I have ever laid eyes on in my entire life is someone who never stepped foot on an I.F.B.B.
stage. That man is Victor Richards. I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity to speak
with this man who is admittedly a bit of a recluse, to gain an insight into how he got
started in bodybuilding, what his beliefs are and what he thinks of the current superstars.
TS: Hello Vic, I have to tell you I didn`t think I was going to be able to track you down…
after all you have been all but absent in the sport since 1994.
What have you been up to lately?
VR: Basically I just got tired of all the politics and bullshit within the sport.
My heart was not in it anymore, so I decided to take some time away to focus on my
education and some business ventures.
TS: Why don`t we do this Vic, tell everyone how you got started in bodybuilding.
VR: It was actually a bit of an accident. Back in 1982 I was playing football in high school
and never touched a weight, yet at 15 years of age I was already 215 pounds and strong as
an Ox. All my friends thought I was some sort of freak of nature because while they were
busy hitting the weights to get stronger for football, I spent my time doing other things.
Yet whenever there was a strength challenge, I always came out on top. One day a bunch of
my friends and I took a trip down to Venice beach, basically to catch some waves and see
the girls in bikinis. While we were walking around the Venice beach walk, this bodybuilder
stopped me and asked me who I was and what I competed in. When I told him I did not even
work out, He couldn`t believe it. He asked me my age and was shocked when he found out
I was only 15. He said: "Kid, right now in your shape you would whip every teenagers ass
in any competition, you got to come see Gold`s Gym with me" So off we went.
TS: And what was that like
VR: Well I remember going into the gym and seeing all this bodybuilders flexing and staring
at themselves in the mirror, walking around without shirts on.
The guy who brought us there was pointing different people out saying
"That`s Mr. America…..see over there, that`s Mr. Universe and over there that`s Mr.
World" and so on.
TS: What did you say to him when he was pointing out all the champions to you at that time.
VR: Actually I did not give a shit about any of those ego filled guys and told him I did not
care and was not impressed. After he went through his litany of who`s who,
I just wanted to know one thing.
TS: And what was that?
VR: Who in the hell the two animal twin brothers where in the back corner bench pressing 500lbs.
wearing overalls, flannel shirts and work-boots. To me I never saw anything like them in my
whole life. At that moment I knew that was what I wanted…Not to look in the mirror at
myself, but to train with the passion and intensity of those two monsters.
TS: I assume you are talking about David and Peter Paul……The Barbarian Brothers?.
VR: Exactly, I was totally awe struck. But it gets better. Right after I pointed them out,
One of them yells over in a mean growl: "Hey you!" I thought, rather I hoped he was talking
to one of my friends, but I soon realized it was me he was pointing to. I said yes in a very
nervous manner and he barked back something about me having what it takes to train with them and to come over there.
I could not believe it. And that is how I got my start in bodybuilding. Back in 1982 at the
age of 15, I began training with the Barbarian brothers.
TS: Damn, they were the shit back then, that must have been really exciting,
how did you like the training?
VR: It was exactly what I needed. To them training was about the moment, a spiritual quest
between you and yourself, no mirrors, no crowds, no applause. Training was sacred and
training was hard and training was heavy. Within a few years I had gotten so big and strong,
that I actually surpassed both David and Peter in terms of size and strength.
TS: That is pretty amazing, what else was going on there at that time
VR: Well after I was training there for about a year, I remember seeing this guy walk in
and everyone was crowding around him because he had just won the Mr. America.
Now I had seen a lot of the professionals throughout the year, but this guy was different,
I never had seen a bodybuilder as freaky looking as him before. So, like a little kid,
I ran up to him to ask him some questions and that`s when I got my first sour taste of the
sport…..The Bad Attitudes. As soon as I opened my mouth, he turned to me and screamed for
me to get away from him and not to disturb his training. Now I can understand if he would
have said "Son, I cannot be disturbed when I am training, but I will be happy to answer
your questions when I am finished" But instead he humiliated me in front of the whole gym,
and I left very embarrassed and upset.
TS: Who was that bodybuilder?
VR: Tim Belknap
TS: Did you ever see him after you made a name for yourself and tell him about how he
treated you?
VR: Strangely enough about a year later, I had made such tremendous progress and started
making a big name for myself, so one day in Gold`s, he came up to me and was super nice
and said "Hey Vic, man you look amazing, what are you doing to get so big" or something
to that effect.
TS: What did you say?
VR: I said, you don`t remember me do you? He was confused and so I told him about what
happened last year and he was backpedaling saying that he didn`t remember doing that and
that he was sorry. To me I could have embarrassed him and evened the score, but that would
have only brought me to his level. He knew I had surpassed him in terms of his physique
and that was enough for me.
TS: That`s a pretty funny story. It amazes me how guys who nobody knows who the fuck
they are 5 miles out of Venice Beach California, have the attitude of overpaid actors and
actresses or overpaid football players. It is a shame that they don`t realize in the
greater scheme of things they are as insignificant as a spec of flea shit on the back
of a fly feeding on the rotted carcass of a sewer rat.
VR: Right, that is one of the things I hate about the sport. The backstabbing,
the politics, the attitudes. It is just not my thing. All I care about or ever
cared about is training. To me training is like meditation.
I can focus on my inner self and do not have to worry about judges or anyone else
for that matter.
TS: Well Vic, I remember reading about you for the first time in 1987….
I think then you were like 280lbs. when everyone else was 240-250…How come you didn`t
compete then
VR: Well you have to understand, I did two competitions as a teenager
(one of them against Rich Gaspari who was 2 years older than me) and after my second
competition, which I won, I remember walking into the parking lot carrying my trophy
and having it literally fall apart in my hand because it was such a piece of shit.
At that point I thought to myself, "All this hard work for a trophy that can`t even
stay in one piece" So I decided to just get totally enveloped in my training and get
as big as I could
TS: Well you certainly did that….There was talk in the late 1980`s and early 1990`s
that you were going to enter the NPC USA CHAMPIONSHIPS. In fact I remember waiting in
anticipation to see you come out on stage and dwarf everyone on stage.
Why did that never happen. I mean, you were doing a lot of guestposing for the MUSCLEMANIA
shows and I think you were hitting the stage at a pretty hard 292lbs. Remember this is back
when Haney was doing his last Olympia at 243lbs. and Dorian was coming on at 240lbs.
So to me I thought you would crush a hell of a lot of people seeing how you were outweighing
everyone by 40 or 50 lbs.
VR: This is pretty interesting. You see, bodybuilding is all about power and control.
The competitors are nothing but pieces of meat to the powers that be.
I was getting a lot of guest posing work for NPC sanctioned shows,
and the powers that be felt it was unfair that I was not an NPC athlete.
Basically they were putting pressure on the promoters not to allow me to guest pose.
I felt they were trying to get me to compete in the NPC for the sole purpose of making me
look like a fool on stage.
TS: How would they do that if you came into a show in shredded condition 50 pounds heavier
than your nearest competitor?
VR: Oh come on, do you really think that the best man wins? I was not going to be made a
fool even if for only one show. Nobody was going to force me to compete
TS: Then how come you competing in the Nigerian Championships to get your Pro-Card in 1992?
VR: That is a funny story. You see, after the heads of the NPC and the IFBB were putting
pressure on promoters to not hire me for guest posings, I simply went over to Europe and
made a killing. Their power was not immediately felt over there. However,
it wasn`t long before I started to feel their wrath, and even the guest posings over
there began being cancelled due to fear of reparations from the powers that be.
It was around this time that I had gotten a contract with Joe Weider—who is really a
great guy—and even Joe was getting a lot of pressure for me to have to compete.
Everyone thinks that Joe controls the sport, but he really doesn`t.
There are a lot more powerful people behind the wheel.
TS: So Joe told you that you had to compete in the Nigerian Championships to keep your
contract?
VR: No, Joe just said that I needed to compete and get my pro card.
Now obviously, the powers that be, thought I would have to due the NPC Nationals,
North American, or the USA to get my pro card, and this would be their chance to teach me a
lesson. Except they forgot one small detail.
TS: Which was?
VR: I held duel citizenship in both the USA and in Nigeria.
So I simply flew down to Nigerian and did what essentially was to me, a guest posing.
Of course, I was so far ahead of the other competitors that I easily won.
I got my pro card, and of course got to keep my contract….for a while anyway.
TS: That is a pretty funny story. Of course I have no way of confirming if it is true,
but it is pretty funny if it is. Now I would like to jump ahead to 1994.
During this time I remember flipping through my copy of Flex magazine and all of a
sudden coming to the page reporting on that years FIBO. Suffice is to say I nearly shit
my pants. To this day, I have never seen anything bigger than you were at that show.
You were 320-330lbs. and granted you were holding a lot of water, but at 5`9`` that was the
most amount of muscle I ever saw on a human being. You made Dorian look like a baby—now
in all fairness, Dorian may not have been fully loaded during that time, but I still
could not get over the size of you. I also remember that there was a lot of controversy
when you hit the stage with the other athletes. Please tell us about that time and what
the hell you did to get that freaking massive...
Continued at "FIBO 1994"....
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Part 2.
In part one of the Vic Richards interview we left off at the part where Vic was discussing the events surrounding the 1994 FIBO where he shocked the world with the freakiest physique ever seen on a stage.......Part 2 continues right at this point. If you have not read Part 1 of the Vic Richards interview, you will find it in the August archives under the ARTICLES section of the website
TS: That is a pretty funny story. Of course I have no way of confirming if it is true, but it is pretty funny if it is. Now I would like to jump ahead to 1994. During this time I remember flipping through my copy of Flex magazine and all of a sudden coming to the page reporting on that years FIBO. Suffice is to say I nearly shit my pants. To this day, I have never seen anything bigger than you were at that show. You were 320-330lbs. and granted you were holding a lot of water, but at 5'9'' that was the most amount of muscle I ever saw on a human being. You made Dorian look like a baby—now in all fairness, Dorian may not have been fully loaded during that time, but I still could not get over the size of you. I also remember that there was a lot of controversy when you hit the stage with the other athletes. Please tell us about that time and what the hell you did to get that freaking massive…..
VR: Yes that was the year of the big earthquake in Southern California. I was living there at that time with my family, but after the quake hit I knew I had to get the hell out of there. It scared the shit out of me thinking that my children could have been killed. So I decided to move up to Seattle. During this time things were quite hectic for me with the move, so training was really very minimal. I was scheduled to go to Fibo and I knew I had to get back into training.
TS: But that would have meant that you had only 2 months to get into shape and yet you showed up fucking enormous..your all time biggest. What on earth did you do differently.
VR: I'll get to that later.
TS: O.K. well than let's talk about what happened when you were at FIBO.
VR: Well I was standing with John Brown who is a friend of mine and we were commenting on the attitudes of some of the bodybuilders like Flex and a few others. Kevin Levrone was totally cool and respectful to me as was Dorian, but a lot of the other young guys were making comments like I was fat and out of shape and wouldn't do anything on stage. Now I was all covered up so I just laughed to myself. But John Brown kept telling me to go onstage on the last day when they have the group posedown. At first I did not want to do it…but as I heard more and more comments I figured I would have a little fun.
TS: So you weren't scheduled to be onstage
VR: No. but I went up and told the announcer that I would be joining the guys on stage and he got all excited. Anyway, after the guys were onstage, I stripped down and as I was walking out the announcer—who was speaking in German—apparently said that I was the biggest man on the planet and the un-crowned Mr. Olympia. Now I did not tell him to say that, and quite frankly didn't know what he was saying cause he was speaking German. All I know is one of the promoters who was good friends with Dorian went crazy and grabbed the microphone from the announcer and started screaming that I was a bloated water tank and could never compete against these guys.
TS: Funny….But what was the crowds reaction
VR: They went nuts…they loved it
TS: How about the other athletes.
VR: They were in total disbelief at my size. Kevin Levrone was totally cool and told me I would destroy everyone if I ever got into contest shape and that if I wanted to compete he would help me get ready.
TS: How about Dorian.
VR: I like Dorian a lot…but I saw him backstage after and his head was down and he was very solemn. I told him I did not mean to disrespect him in any way and that I thought he was a great champion. But I couldn't help but get the feeling he was dejected a bit because I was so much bigger than he was
TS: I remember one of the magazines had a small photo and I was longing to see more…but nobody ever touched the subject…it was like it never happened and yet I would think that would be big news to see you posing off against Dorian.
VR: Yeah, certain powers that be made sure that not too many pictures were published from that day.
TS: I still have that one pic of you cut out and on my wall for inspiration. But I must say again in all fairness to Dorian, he didn't look fully loaded as a few years later I saw him guest pose in N.Y. and at 300lbs. he looked fucking insane and a lot bigger than at Fibo that year with you. Now that would have been a wild posedown. Two of the biggest men in the sport. Christ through in an off season Ronnie Coleman and Nasser El Sonbaty and they would have to reinforce the fucking stage.
TS: Let's switch topics a bit. Who are some of your favorite bodybuilders from today?
VR: Well I think Dorian was great. Flex has great lines and is actually a smaller version of me. Kevin Levrone is awesome. Lee Haney was fantastic. Of course Sergio was amazing.
TS: Let me throw some names out: J.P. Fux
VR: Oh my god…what a shame what this guy did to himself. I met him years ago before he made himself look pregnant and thought he was really good. Then I met him again in Atlanta and did not recognize him
TS: Paul Dillet:
VR: Paul had the potential to be very, very freaky, but instead he will go down as just an average big man. I asked Paul to train with me when he first came out here and told him if he could rough it for a year, we would make lots of money going around guest posing together as two super-freaks. But he never did.
TS: Greg Kovacs
VR: Greg Kovacs is a nice guy, I met him a few times, but the hype around him is a joke. He is not the biggest bodybuilder on the planet. He is 6'3" and around 375 pounds in the offseason and he looks terrible at that weight…certainly not like a bodybuilder. And even if he does go up to 400lbs. he would still just look like a big ole football lineman. I am 5'10" and have weighed as much as 340lbs. But all my muscles are full and round and have shape and symmetry. I can go find a 6'8" 410lb bodybuilder, but that wouldn't mean he would look as freaky and thick and dense as I would.
TS: I know this is a touchy subject with you, but I have to ask. What are your theories on drugs in the sport?
VR: Well I get asked this all the time, and I do not like to answer because I feel I have to be responsible. I know what I am doing, but if someone thinks they can do what I do to be like me and then they hurt themselves, it becomes my fault. All I can say is there are proven medicinal uses for steroids and other compounds, which if used properly are very safe. However, the key is used properly. These days the guys are using insane amounts and using GH, and insulin as well. I would never in a million years play around with insulin or thyroid drugs either. Too dangerous. Besides if you know enough about nutrition you can effectively manipulate your own insulin levels to be very beneficial for building muscles.
TS: Alright, I ain't pulling any punches…..What drugs do you use and which ones do you feel are the most effective.
VR: Hmmm…..nice try Trevor.
TS: Alright, let me rephrase that. If a bodybuilder were to choose to use drugs, are there any that you feel are safer and more effective than others.
VR: Let me just say that I think androgen-based drugs are shit and very dangerous and hard on the system. They do nothing but bloat the hell out of a person and then when they are stopped everything is lost. A much wiser approach would be to use highly anabolic compounds. Because if used correctly they can result in lots and lots of quality muscle that stays with you for the most part.
TS: Things like equipoise and winstrol are highly anabolic
VR: Yes
TS: Well in all honesty, I cannot believe that you don't feel androgens are effective…I mean I would have guessed by your condition at fibo—very huge but also holding water—that you would find them somewhat useful
VR: I am not going to comment on my personal life for the reasons stated before. I will say, however, that there is one compound out there that is very androgenic, and very anabolic and would result in lots of muscle. But it is very toxic and dangerous and would never be used for any length of time
TS: And what compound would that be
VR: Parabolan
TS: Parabolan is probably the best drug ever produced for building muscle....problem is you can't get it anymore. You know one of the major problems I see, is that young guys coming up and in established pros, have a hard time training without the use of drugs and therefore stay on all the time. Mostly these guys never put in any time training naturally and once their cycle is done, they start to crash in size and panic. So rather than wait to clean the system and learn to train and progress naturally as well…they hop right back on a course or at the very least "bridge". Which always cracks me up because these idiots are never giving their body a break…which in the long run really hinders their progress.
VR: I totally agree. That is the problem. People don't take the time off that their bodies need. It would be wise to give the body 4-6 months of total clean time a year…..but invariable this happens with only a few. But they are the few that will be around for a long time and be healthy to boot. The other problem they have is they think drugs are the key which they are not. Nutrition and training are the keys
TS: Precisely my thoughts. Whenever I work with someone…whether a Pro or an Amateur the first thing I tell them is I have no secrets or magic bullets. Just common sense and balls to the wall effort. That is what makes the difference. K.I.S.S. This brings me to my next question. Years back you claimed that you ate a daily diet of around 30,000 kcals. Now that is fucking absurd and is more than a fucking gorilla or a lion would eat.
VR: I agree…it is totally absurd and I never said that. Well I did, but it was taken out of context, like most of the information in the magazines. I was asked what the most amount of calories I ate in a day was and I told the person conducting the interview that it was probably 30,000 but that was simply because I was eating Nigerian foods which are heavily loaded with lots and lots of fats. I never said I ate 30,000 kcals on a regular basis and certainly not from Rice, Chicken and vegetables. You have to understand I basically did everything that I wasn't supposed to in terms of playing the political angle in bodybuilding. I marched to my own beat and still had lots of fans and still made a good living and this pisses off the powers that be. So ANY opportunity to make me look like a fool and discredit me they will. But I will not be made to look like a fool. I am college educated and have a degree in psychology. Most of my family members are doctors and engineers, so there is no shortage of intelligence in my genes.
TS: Ouch! Someone's not too happy.
VR: No, I am just saying it like it is.
TS: You know what I wanted to talk with you about, was the W.B.F. Didn't they contact you and why do you think that failed so quickly?
If you want to know the answer you will have to tune in next time for part 3 of the Vic Richards interview where he discusses the W.B.F., the future of bodybuilding and the future for Vic Richards along with some of his training theories.
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Not quite...Its obvious youve never competed, because you still cant see the obvious.
I was never trying to "play the system"...I was trying to EARN a pro card....by beating the BEST, not back-dooring my way to one by "playing the system", getting the second pro card, getting it from the Masters div...etc.
What made the card valuable was the fact that I did it...legitimately...by winning not just my class, but the OVERALL title...nothing was handed to me, gifted to me, or made up for me. Vic Richards never faced ANYONE...just some ficticious show, against a bunch of guys who had never seen the inside of a gym...which gave him ZERO respect.
That said...if you never step on stage to COMPETE as a Pro, then youre not a pro, simple as that...all he was, was "Pro eligible"...as he was never granted a card, and never competed....
kind of like having your lerners permit to drive, but not passing the test...you STILL dont own a valid drivers license...
Chick would have turned pro in 1989, he believes. But, per his account, he got robbed by this man:
I can see you losing to Morant; but how'd you lose to Zuccolotto at the Nationals?
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Is Victor Richards' used underwear for sale ? ::)
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Chick would have turned pro in 1989, he believes. But, per his account, he got robbed by this man:
I can see you losing to Morant; but how'd you lose to Zuccolotto at the Nationals?
Morant beat me at the USA in 89, fair and square...but he lost out to Eddie Robinson for the overall anyway ( I would have lost to him as well even if I won the HW class) ....back then you had to win the overall to turn pro....
BUT...I still believe I should have beat him and won the N. American to turn pro later in the year...unfortunately, the "A" team of judges were in Rimini Italy for the Olympia which was held on the same day that year....
Troy Z was damn good....and I was competing in my 3rd pro qualifier in a year by the time the Nationals came around....a big mistake as I was burned out mentally and physically...in retrospect..I should have hung it up after the NA and focused on next years (1990) USA....
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Is Victor Richards' used underwear for sale ? ::)
www.vicsstainednics.com
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www.vicsstainednics.com
I clicked before I realized.... ;D
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Well said Chick.
Howard, how does it feel to lick the balls of someone who licks balls for a livin?
is it for the 'after taste'?
do you expect to be given a pro schmoe card?
there are plenty out there as you know, mostly from America Express, and you don't even have to travel to nigeria- although i am sure some nigerians can set you up with a nice AE card also.
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We all think Sergio is a monster because we are comparing him to his era, same with Vic he was one of the biggest in his era at 4-6 weeks out conditioning, but Vic would get destroyed standing next to Markus Or Dennis James with the same conditioning.
Vic was big but he was just a big guy,lot of big guys get slaughtered by people 50lb lighter guys today, same as Vic getting slaughtered by Gaspari in their early days, he didn't compete because the pressure people put on him that he should win because they were basing this on his sheer size, but he knew exactly how bodybuilding worked, he wasn't stupid, he knew someone like Labrada was murdering monsters on stage, hence he was terrified of the stage so he wouldn't ruin his image
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Howard, how do I lick the balls of someone who works for a livin?
I do it for the 'after taste'?
I expect to be given a pro schmoe card?
there are plenty LIKE ME out there as you know, mostly from America , and you don't even have to travel to nigeria- although i am sure some nigerians can set you up with a nice boy also.
Fixed and no thanks sweety
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We all think Sergio is a monster because we are comparing him to his era, same with Vic he was one of the biggest in his era at 4-6 weeks out conditioning, but Vic would get destroyed standing next to Markus Or Dennis James with the same conditioning.
Vic was big but he was just a big guy,lot of big guys get slaughtered by people 50lb lighter guys today, same as Vic getting slaughtered by Gaspari in their early days, he didn't compete because the pressure people put on him that he should win because they were basing this on his sheer size, but he knew exactly how bodybuilding worked, he wasn't stupid, he knew someone like Labrada was murdering monsters on stage, hence he was terrified of the stage so he wouldn't ruin his image
Pretty much spot-on I would think.
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We all think Sergio is a monster because we are comparing him to his era, same with Vic he was one of the biggest in his era at 4-6 weeks out conditioning, but Vic would get destroyed standing next to Markus Or Dennis James with the same conditioning.
Vic was big but he was just a big guy,lot of big guys get slaughtered by people 50lb lighter guys today, same as Vic getting slaughtered by Gaspari in their early days, he didn't compete because the pressure people put on him that he should win because they were basing this on his sheer size, but he knew exactly how bodybuilding worked, he wasn't stupid, he knew someone like Labrada was murdering monsters on stage, hence he was terrified of the stage so he wouldn't ruin his image
good post.
funny all this talk about an illegitimate pro card. as if it took more than a single look at the guy to know he's one of the biggest ever bodybuilders... why concern yourself with titles?
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Fixed and no thanks sweety
fat howard, how much do you weigh these days?
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good post.
funny all this talk about an illegitimate pro card. as if it took more than a single look at the guy to know he's one of the biggest ever bodybuilders... why concern yourself with titles?
good post that cuts through all the bullshit
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good post.
funny all this talk about an illegitimate pro card. as if it took more than a single look at the guy to know he's one of the biggest ever bodybuilders... why concern yourself with titles?
People that legitimately work their ass off for a title, take great pride in that title...
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We all think Sergio is a monster because we are comparing him to his era, same with Vic he was one of the biggest in his era at 4-6 weeks out conditioning, but Vic would get destroyed standing next to Markus Or Dennis James with the same conditioning.
Vic was big but he was just a big guy,lot of big guys get slaughtered by people 50lb lighter guys today, same as Vic getting slaughtered by Gaspari in their early days, he didn't compete because the pressure people put on him that he should win because they were basing this on his sheer size, but he knew exactly how bodybuilding worked, he wasn't stupid, he knew someone like Labrada was murdering monsters on stage, hence he was terrified of the stage so he wouldn't ruin his image
Pretty much sums it up right there. And title or no title, pro card or no pro card he was one of the biggest bbers ever.
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good post.
funny all this talk about an illegitimate pro card. as if it took more than a single look at the guy to know he's one of the biggest ever bodybuilders... why concern yourself with titles?
Greg Kovacs was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, too. Look how well he fared as a pro.
But, at least Kovacs won a legitimate pro qualifier and competed as a pro, unlike that farce of Richards. Again, how many Nigerian National Champions have been given pro cards before or since Richards?
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Greg Kovacs was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, too. Look how well he fared as a pro.
But, at least Kovacs won a legitimate pro qualifier and competed as a pro, unlike that farce of Richards. Again, how many Nigerian National Champions have been given pro cards before or since Richards?
true ,,but there was more of a demand for richards to go pro and head to head with haney at the time.kovacs was the poster boy for muscletech.
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Greg Kovacs was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, too. Look how well he fared as a pro.
But, at least Kovacs won a legitimate pro qualifier and competed as a pro, unlike that farce of Richards. Again, how many Nigerian National Champions have been given pro cards before or since Richards?
okay good point and well taken...but as a lot of people on here have been saying, there are just some guys who stand out among other men....and Vic is one of them....he's a pro in the eyes of many fans...admittedly his title may be suspect, but this would not have happened if bodybuilding was more open about what it does and helped to educate the average fan as to how people qualify for pro cards and the procedures they have to go thru.....in almost all other sports the champions are crowned in a way which is open to scrutiny..
not to mention how many bb'ers were jobbed out of championships and pro cards they deserved because of politics and because the sport is controlled by a few assholes???....Richards chose not to go thru the bullshit....and made his own way in the world of bodybuilding which many bb'ers have not been able to do...
How come Kevin Levrone or Flex Wheeler or Shawn Ray never won an Olympia??? How did Dorian win his championships with a big gut and a torn bicep???..How about Arnold in 1980?
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That was a long time ago and you sir know your sports history but the analogy still fails.
Bobby Jones competed in and won several major chamionships while Victor never even competed in any major contest.
The Jones comparison would only work if Victor won the OLympia and told the promoter to keep the prize $$ or gave it to charity.
Good point
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V. Richards in contest shape would be very hard to beat from the front. I believe that his problem would be from the back. That is where I think he would really get exposed.
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Boost "I'd like to report a robbery"
911 operator "What is your location?"
Boost "The 2006 Master's World Championship, nyc"
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The true gem of this thread
Everyone thinks that Joe controls the sport, but he really doesn`t.
There are a lot more powerful people behind the wheel.
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Boost "I'd like to report a robbery"
911 operator "What is your location?"
Boost "The 2006 Master's World Championship, nyc"
Still beating this dead horse?
Jeffers placed EIGHTH, not second, third, fourth, or fifth.....EIGHTH.
That means, Chick or no Chick, Jeffers would have LOST this contest.
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true ,,but there was more of a demand for richards to go pro and head to head with haney at the time.kovacs was the poster boy for muscletech.
Howard, how does it feel to lick the balls of someone who licks balls for a livin?
is it for the 'after taste'?
do you expect to be given a pro schmoe card?
there are plenty out there as you know, mostly from America Express, and you don't even have to travel to nigeria- although i am sure some nigerians can set you up with a nice AE card also.
He didn't even go head-to-head with the NPC's best. John Sherman won the '92 Nationals. Yet, he didn't get a Weider contract (as far as I know). Yet, Richards beats a bunch of twigs in a show that wasn't a pro qualifier beforehand and hasn't been one since then. And, he gets a pro card, a Weider contract, and a special invite to the Olympia.
And someone here thinks Chick was licking someone's balls to get ahead?
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He didn't even go head-to-head with the NPC's best. John Sherman won the '92 Nationals. Yet, he didn't get a Weider contract (as far as I know). Yet, Richards beats a bunch of twigs in a show that wasn't a pro qualifier beforehand and hasn't been one since then. And, he gets a pro card, a Weider contract, and a special invite to the Olympia.
And someone here thinks Chick was licking someone's balls to get ahead?
i'm not disagreeing,,sherman was unreal ..but richards was so big and at that time he was the hype like colemans version of the greatest flub of hype ever the russian guy forgot name alex...
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Boost "I'd like to report a robbery"
911 operator "What is your location?"
Boost "The 2006 Master's World Championship, nyc"
Maybe Rusty should have tried... not being gay.
Maybe then he would have placed higher than 8th ::)
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People that legitimately work their ass off for a title, take great pride in that title...
BINGO! My ake on Vic is that he knew down deep inside that dieted all the way down to ripped shae would never be as impressive as remaining a MYTH with unknown potential. The wondering about what could be creates more buzz and mystery then doing it. Reality is a bitch.
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BINGO! My ake on Vic is that he knew down deep inside that dieted all the way down to ripped shae would never be as impressive as remaining a MYTH with unknown potential. The wondering about what could be creates more buzz and mystery then doing it. Reality is a bitch.
And he was making a killing on this mystique constantly being compared to Haney and then Yates, just imagine had he entered the NOC and came in tenth place, everything down the drain, I remember back in the day those stupid Muscle Tech adds promoting Kovacks back in the day, one article said Kovacks will be the first Mr.Olympia to compete well over 300 lb. How many people we see get taged as a future Mr. O, hype counts for NOTHING
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Boost "I'd like to report a robbery"
911 operator "What is your location?"
Boost "The 2006 Master's World Championship, nyc"
HAHAAAAA!!...good one! ;D ;D
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Maybe Rusty should have tried... not being gay.
Maybe then he would have placed higher than 8th ::)
I thought gayness was an asset in bodybuilding???
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i'm not disagreeing,,sherman was unreal ..but richards was so big and at that time he was the hype like colemans version of the greatest flub of hype ever the russian guy forgot name alex...
Alex Federov
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Alex Federov
One of the biggest busts of all time
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And he was making a killing on this mystique constantly being compared to Haney and then Yates, just imagine had he entered the NOC and came in tenth place, everything down the drain, I remember back in the day those stupid Muscle Tech adds promoting Kovacks back in the day, one article said Kovacks will be the first Mr.Olympia to compete well over 300 lb. How many people we see get taged as a future Mr. O, hype counts for NOTHING
He wouldn't have been first to do that, anyway. Ferrigno was 315 at the 1993 Olympia.
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He wouldn't have been first to do that, anyway. Ferrigno was 315 at the 1993 Olympia.
You have mistaken my post,.... the add did not say first on Mr. O stage at 300, it said first Mr. Olympia at 300, indicating he will win the Olympia :o
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Heard about that. He dated my ex-wife #1 for a while.
when you have to number your ex-wives, it means you fucked up a lot ;D
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when you have to number your ex-wives, it means you fucked up a lot ;D
lolz
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let's address pertinent questions such as
could he have been mister o
did he really deserve a pro card for winning mister nigeria
did he really squat nearly 900lbs without belts or knee sleeves
was he a cool guy or a prick
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/e/9/e9591-vicrichardsronniecoleman.jpg)
(http://bodybuilders.com/victor10.jpg)
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_h37QoUlghn6WYs_5K605RIFfR2ViO-4xb5mFv4ILFVvKI5RTma3xa-87ww)
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Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.
" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "
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Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.
" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "
lmao
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/58397-Where-Are-They-Now-with-Victor-Richards-by-Shawn-Ray
SR-: Victor, how did this all start for you? The process of which, you chose to grease up one day and step onstage as a Bodybuilder.
VR:I never really planned to be a bodybuilder, when I was a teenager my friends and I skipped class to go to Gold's gym in Venice, California in search of our T.V action hero Lou Ferrigno “The Incredible Hulk.” He wasn't in the gym but the Barbarian Brothers were. The twins were shocked with my genetics and introduced me to Pete Grymkowski, the owner of Gold's Gym who gave me a free gym membership on the spot.
SR: At what point did you realize this was something you could use to help leverage financial rewards?
VR:When I was very young, I was initially flattered that I was being offered $500 for appearances while seasoned Pro's were getting $300. As a Teenager, it makes you feel good to be recognized but as I got a bit older, I realized that there were no financial rewards in Bodybuilding. If you are lucky enough to be the best in the world you win two hundred thousand dollar prize after spending three hundred thousand dollars to with that prize. Conversely, you can be a third string Pro football player, have nowhere near the discipline or sacrifice of a Pro Bodybuilder and make a decent living.
SR: Who were your mentors/ teachers in this industry?
VR:The Barbarian Brothers, Larry Jackson, Samir Bannout , Chris Dickerson and Rufus Howard.
SR-Q: At which point did you realize that Bodybuilding was more than lifting weights and stepping onstage to be judged by others?
VR:I made that realization very early when I felt the natural high I achieved after lifting weights. That feelings far surpassed standing half naked with a group of men on a stage and if I was upset with my girlfriend or stressed about something I would train several times a day just to clear my head and forget things. Weight lifting was a therapeutic outlet rather than a men’s beauty contest for me.
SR: What role did training at Gold’s Gym have in your outlook on the sport? Did you benefit from training there as opposed to say, XYZ Gym in One Horse Town, Nebraska?
VR: Gold's Gym was mixed blessings. I was fortunate to watch and learn from many great bodybuilders but at the same time, I learned many things that made me question the ethics, integrity and principles associated with sport. I say "sport" but for me, bodybuilding has always been considered my "discipline."
SR: Tell us about some of your most memorable encounters with Pro’s or Amateurs that you recall help define your personal outlook on the sport?
VR:I have a plethora of opinions about bodybuilding but in the interest of brevity I will touch on a few key memorable encounters that will demonstrate why it is that I feel the way I do. First, there is what I call "disguised poverty” which is rampant throughout the sport. Many very popular and big name bodybuilders are living hand to mouth and because it has never been my goal to publicly humiliate my colleagues, I will not provide any more specific detail or names on this subject. However, I am confident that many people who are familiar with this sport will support my “disguised poverty" observations.
Second, is what I feel to be a callous indifference to the value of a person, as a person rather than as a competitor or an object. For example, I remember very vividly when Momo Benazziza died from his dedication to the sport and a fellow competitor callously told me "Good, just another #### out of the way that I don't have to worry about.” Had that opinion been limited to one individual it would not have had the same effect on me but sadly it wasn't. Third, not all promoters but many promoters, are just plain greedy and deceptive. As far back as 1989, I recall a particular promoter at the Orange County Bodybuilding Classic trying to pocket my guest posing fee of $2,500. I had specifically asked for the money to be donated for children of Muscular Dystrophy. The promoter agreed but never made the donation.
SR: What advice would you have for a 17 year high school kid coming into the industry to compete at the Orange County like you day back in the day, what can he expect or look forward to?
VR:I would like young people to do it for themselves, not for other people. Use the sport to build discipline, self-confidence and overall health. Then enjoy the benefit of looking good but the foundation cannot be based upon just looking good. Looking good is the icing on the cake and the short term goal. If they only body build for the sake of physical competition they may become quickly disenchanted but if they use it to create healthy disciplined habits, they can expect great things in all avenues of their life.
SR: Why do you think the Teenage Division numbers have dropped so dramatically in the past 20 years?
VR:Disguised poverty.
SR: If Drug Testing were brought back would you support it?
VR: I would support responsible, objective medical monitoring to ensure healthy competition but not necessary drug testing just for the sake of drug testing.
SR: What motto do you live by now that you're a father?
VR: My Motto is to live your life to the best of your ability, not live to the expectation of others.
SR: What did you hate most about the industry?
VR: "Hate" is a word I avoid, but as I mentioned earlier, I am truly disappointed with greed, deception and inhumanity that infiltrated the sport.
SR: What defines who you are as a man?
VR: Like everyone, my experiences in life and how I have chosen to deal with those experiences.
SR: If you were running the industry today, what 3 things would you do immediately to make the sport better for the athletes?
VR: First, create a union. Second, hire a good P.R professional to promote and change the negative image of Bodybuilding with general public. Finally, sponsor objective medical monitoring to ensure healthy, sustainable competition for every bodybuilder who wants to compete while making sure that all Pro bodybuilders have full health care coverage.
SR: How do you find living in Portland, Oregon as opposed to California?
VR: It is peaceful, non superficial, environmentally health consious and in general has more polite people.
SR: What are you working on up there these days, any projects in the works?
VR: I am planning to develop a Wellness Center on large acreage or a mini farm. A place where people can come learn about holistic bodybuilding in a natural, serene setting while dining on organic meat, poultry, fruits and vegetables A full service wilderness retreat where people can get healthy and enjoy natural surroundings as well.
SR: What’s it like being a father for you compared to your Single days?
VR: I am less materialistic and selfish. I have come to understand that one's life is much more than "one” life." It is about far more than just me as an individual.
SR: With Dexter Jackson being chosen Mr. Olympia by the Judges, are we heading in the right direction with his look?
VR:I am unclear about what one's "look" refers to in this business but I will say that it will take much more than a “look” to transform this industry. Everyone will have to work together for true change. Arnold was a wonderful ambassador for bodybuilding and we should all follow his lead, so that no one bodybuilder will ever be pressured to achieve any one "Look" for the sport to succeed.
SR: What are the Bodybuilders of today seriously in need of?
VR:Dignity
SR: At your age, do you feel the need to be carrying the body mass you have now necessary or is it just genetics weighing in over 300lbs today?
VR: At 5'10 I look too thin at 250 pounds, so I believe for me, it is primarily genetic.
SR: When you die, how would you like to be remembered? What would you like people to say?
VR: I would like to be remembered as a person of integrity, a person who did not compromise his beliefs, regardless of whether those beliefs were popular or not.
SR: If you had it to do all over again, what would you change?
VR:I would have spent more time with my family. I also would have done more of the activities that I enjoy like camping, fishing and sailing.
SR: You were quoted famously as eating as many as 30,000 calories a day, you want to go on record and clarify this statement?
VR: I have certainly eaten 15,000 -20,000 calories in one day- but not every day! Anyone familiar with Caribbean cuisine knows that it is not unusual to have huge meals averaging 7,000 calories. If you have a few of those meals over a 24 hour period, 20,000 calories is not out of line.
SR: Hypothetically, you just won One Million Dollars, what would you do with it?
VR:A large portion would go to my children's college funds. I would also donate some of it for the health care of my fellow bodybuilders who have had significant health issues as a result of their efforts to earn a living by bodybuilding.
SR: Besides your children, what do you hold nearest to your heart?
VR: My Father and Mother.
SR: Give me some of the best poundage’s you've lifted: Bench- Shoulder Press- Squat- Biceps Curl?
VR:I have bench pressed between 550 on incline bench and 600+ pounds flat bench; 200 pounds on dumbbell press. I’ve done shoulder presses in the range of 450 pounds; squatted nearly 900 pounds, as well I’ve done barbell curls up to 315 pounds and I never liked using a belt or knee wraps.
SR: The true meaning of life for a bodybuilder through the eyes of Victor Richards is……..?
VR:It is about balance of life. The combination of body, mind and spirit all being channeled on the same frequency for ultimate growth. Therefore, building one's body is about life not death, and the results are unique to each individual.
SR: You have the final say, what would you like the world to know about you?
VR: As I mature I started to think about my calling in life and how I ended up in bodybuilding. I never knew anything about the sport and never wanted to be a bodybuilder. I believe that my true destiny in life is to be a teacher. In this sport we have seen pro bodybuilders get very sick, even losing their kidneys. Just because someone is a pro doesn't mean they know what they are doing actually, it is almost to the contrary. Some bodybuilders would drink a gallon of bleach everyday if it meant they could win a trophy. It is my goal to help teach people how to build their body the right way, without compromising their health, whether their goal is to win a trophy or just improve their health.
As always, I can be reached for personal consultations at: www.vicrichards.com
Thank you Shawn, you have always been an inspiration and great role model for anyone who ever walked into a gym, more importantly the professionalism you carried yourself with on and off stage! You’re doing a great job as an ambassador of the sport, continue the great work!
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Are there pics of when he did step onstage at the nats and lost to gaspari? Wondering what he looked like
I remember when he was gifted his pro card at the nigerian nationals. It was ridiculous what the other guys looked like, the whole thing a sham
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Vic Richards on Romano & Palumbo radio show 2010.
" To say Ronnie Coleman is the best bodybuilder is an insult , he doesn't even come in the top 12 "
wow.
speechless..
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Are there pics of when he did step onstage at the nats and lost to gaspari? Wondering what he looked like
I remember when he was gifted his pro card at the nigerian nationals. It was ridiculous what the other guys looked like, the whole thing a sham
can anyone find pics of this contest?
would like to see that
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Is that the mighty/legendary Khofo? :D
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Are there pics of when he did step onstage at the nats and lost to gaspari? Wondering what he looked like
I remember when he was gifted his pro card at the nigerian nationals. It was ridiculous what the other guys looked like, the whole thing a sham
yup, where are all the other ifbb pros that won their procards at the nigerian championships.
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I know plenty of big freaky off season gym rats that are so huge you would say dam this guy could be mr o, but let him cut down to contest weight and its a different story, that is why i am not a fan of victor, if he could get into contest shape and still be that big and freaky then he would have had proved that he is a real pro bodybuilder but what he turned out to be was another big gym rat.
Well, I'll say this: however much he weighed, 320,330,360,...whatever, to see the guy in person, you were just like "wtf?!" Everything was so thick, round, and full, dude din't even look "real." So, maybe he did win his "procard" against a bunch of 140 pound bushman. Then he never competes as a pro. Well, is there any money there? No. I think he did the right thing doing it is whatever he does.
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yup, where are all the other ifbb pros that won their procards at the nigerian championships.
Exactly, its a double standard. Sure, sometimes exceptions are made via application of the competitors national federation, like Priest and Milos, who won their national titles in australia and yugoslavia, but the vic thing was blatantly obvious
On the other hand, if nigerian bbers had financial incentive, these guys possess genes bar none, big people that are naturally muscular. But since no money in bbing , they gravitate towards more natural vocations (scamming, fraud, drug dealing, etc)
No racist - just observation
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Are there pics of when he did step onstage at the nats and lost to gaspari? Wondering what he looked like
I remember when he was gifted his pro card at the nigerian nationals. It was ridiculous what the other guys looked like, the whole thing a sham
Flex Magazine ran a pic yrs ago...
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It all depends on what the fans think...I look at Vic and I see a huge Mofo who if he wanted to, could have been one of the greatest and could have won titles.....you can't blame a guy for taking a different route....why destroy your body with chemicals if you can make money anyway by not competing and just doing photo shoots and seminars plus guest posing?
Vic made his own way in the sport without having to blow anybody....
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Well, I'll say this: however much he weighed, 320,330,360,...whatever, to see the guy in person, you were just like "wtf?!" Everything was so thick, round, and full, dude din't even look "real." So, maybe he did win his "procard" against a bunch of 140 pound bushman. Then he never competes as a pro. Well, is there any money there? No. I think he did the right thing doing it is whatever he does.
his legs are so freakish, the way they seem to start 4 inches next to his hips, i mean what the hell i've never seen such a thing
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It all depends on what the fans think...I look at Vic and I see a huge Mofo who if he wanted to, could have been one of the greatest and could have won titles.....you can't blame a guy for taking a different route....why destroy your body with chemicals if you can make money anyway by not competing and just doing photo shoots and seminars plus guest posing?
Vic made his own way in the sport without having to blow anybody....
Richards was destroying his body with chemicals, as it were. The point is that Richards loved to run his mouth about IFBB pros; but, he didn't have the guts to face them onstage and prove how superior he claimed to be over them. Again, many feel his ego can't take getting beat by smaller guys (i.e. his temper tantrum after losing to Rich Gaspari in a state-level show).
The fans WANTED HIM to compete. But, he didn't have the stones to do it. He had a Weider contract, a pro card gift-wrapped for him (by the Weiders, making the Nigerian nationals a pro qualifier which it hadn't been before or since Richards won it), and a special invite to the Olympia. What's his excuse for not competing, other than fear of not living up to the hype and being labeled a BUST?
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Richards was destroying his body with chemicals, as it were. The point is that Richards loved to run his mouth about IFBB pros; but, he didn't have the guts to face them onstage and prove how superior he claimed to be over them. Again, many feel his ego can't take getting beat by smaller guys (i.e. his temper tantrum after losing to Rich Gaspari in a state-level show).
The fans WANTED HIM to compete. But, he didn't have the stones to do it. He had a Weider contract, a pro card gift-wrapped for him (by the Weiders, making the Nigerian nationals a pro qualifier which it hadn't been before or since Richards won it), and a special invite to the Olympia. What's his excuse for not competing, other than fear of not living up to the hype and being labeled a BUST?
maybe because he didn't want to destroy his body with insulin, diuretics, and all the other shit you have to do to compete..plus add in sucking off judges, and kissing asses....if Uncle Joe gift-wrapped somethings for him without him having to go through the bullshit, then why not?...Uncle Joe sure greased the wells for Arnold and for Shawn Ray as well...hence why Shawn only had to compete once a year and Arnold could do whatever he wanted to do
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maybe because he didn't want to destroy his body with insulin, diuretics, and all the other shit you have to do to compete..plus add in sucking off judges, and kissing asses....if Uncle Joe gift-wrapped somethings for him without him having to go through the bullshit, then why not?...Uncle Joe sure greased the wells for Arnold and for Shawn Ray as well...hence why Shawn only had to compete once a year and Arnold could do whatever he wanted to do
Arnold knew what side the bread was buttered on. He sure was lucky to have that 'it' factor.
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Arnold knew what side the bread was buttered on. He sure was lucky to have that 'it' factor.
agreed
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Well, I'll say this: however much he weighed, 320,330,360,...whatever, to see the guy in person, you were just like "wtf?!" Everything was so thick, round, and full, dude din't even look "real." So, maybe he did win his "procard" against a bunch of 140 pound bushman. Then he never competes as a pro. Well, is there any money there? No. I think he did the right thing doing it is whatever he does.
I have seen him and at the time was in awe, but much more shook the first time I saw Kovacks, fucken unreal, and then a 2 week out Dennis James and of course Coleman, then Markus and now comparing it all, seeing Vic now that I think of it was no big deal, much more impressive Physiques.
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I have seen him and at the time was in awe, but much more shook the first time I saw Kovacks, fucken unreal, and then a 2 week out Dennis James and of course Coleman, then Markus and now comparing it all, seeing Vic now that I think of it was no big deal, much more impressive Physiques.
No doubt, even Zane for example has a superior physique. But in terms of shear mass alone he must have been a sight to see. Cool you got to see all the biggest guys around and can actually compare from experience. Kovacs takes the cake for the biggest dude ive ever seen.. hands down, but I never got the chance to see Ruhl or Nasser in person..