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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BiGHer on November 30, 2011, 08:39:03 PM
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With all the hype around the new Kigtropin, I figured I would post a couple comparison photos.
The photo on the right was taken on 11-11 and the photo on the left was take on 11-30. In that time frame I went through 2 kits of the new kigs which should be plenty of time to see a difference and actually, I think they definitely have helped... Everything looks a bit fuller and delts are more capped in the photo of me in the gym locker room on the left after using the kigs... For any of you guys who have been hesitating to try the new kigs, I encourage that you do...
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Sorry about the poor resizing of the photos... I'm not a computer wiz like some of you, but if you know how to fix them and want me to, just let me know how...
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do you run slin with your hgh?
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do you run slin with your hgh?
Never touched slin... I know it will be a reality at some point as I advance, but not yet.
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Look good how many ius are you pinning daily
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Look good how many ius are you pinning daily
10 with those kits... I'll be going to 15-20 starting mid december
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Looking thick bro, keep it up
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Im gona run 5iu for 4 months and then start T-MET You think i get the same results if i prime with the kigs before i run aas or just run everything at the same time.
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Never touched slin... I know it will be a reality at some point as I advance, but not yet.
i highly recommend slin, especially at your progression point and hgh usage. slin and hgh are very anabolic together in a synergistic manner and you don't need much. 10iu of humalin-r is sufficient pre-workout. you won't get a gut unless you overeat carbs, if that's what you're worried about
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i highly recommend slin, especially at your progression point and hgh usage. slin and hgh are very anabolic together in a synergistic manner and you don't need much. 10iu of humalin-r is sufficient pre-workout. you won't get a gut unless you overeat carbs, if that's what you're worried about
That was part of my concern, but I also think I would need to abuse the shit out of it too for the gut. I more just wanted to ensure that I have a nice foundation of conditioned muscle before I started to use it so I look dense and not just have a blow from within look.
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Im gona run 5iu for 4 months and then start T-MET You think i get the same results if i prime with the kigs before i run aas or just run everything at the same time.
To be honest, you may want to try priming, but I wouldn't know because I had been using them both at the same time.
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With all the hype around the new Kigtropin, I figured I would post a couple comparison photos.
The photo on the right was taken on 11-11 and the photo on the left was take on 11-30. In that time frame I went through 2 kits of the new kigs which should be plenty of time to see a difference and actually, I think they definitely have helped... Everything looks a bit fuller and delts are more capped in the photo of me in the gym locker room on the left after using the kigs... For any of you guys who have been hesitating to try the new kigs, I encourage that you do...
bascily i rest my case in regard to kigtropin ,, may god bless the fellwas behind this line and may god of the china yellow son let them stand against the fakes and the trouble of them trying to bring pharm grade product to bodybuilders around the world,,
this is PHARM GRADE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE
gh15 approved
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this is 2 and a half week change! ! ! ,, now you fellas finaly understand how we become proefesionals and how we get the conditioned size,, think about it 2 and a half week ...not 6 month on kigtropin not 3 months 2-3 weeks!
this is big change minimal water and lots of quality!
gh15 approved
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this is 2 and a half week change! ! ! ,, now you fellas finaly understand how we become proefesionals and how we get the conditioned size,, think about it 2 and a half week ...not 6 month on kigtropin not 3 months 2-3 weeks!
this is big change minimal water and lots of quality!
gh15 approved
God, what's your opinion of me adding in the slin?
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to be hones,, i thnk you can turn profesional with no insulin,, you are umm you look damn good,, muscle is kind of virgin muscle due to age but few years and polish polish everything and you are pro ,, keep the midsection as tight as possible dont let it explode,, you are a conditioned big kid,, truly big not balonie big
gh15 approved
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damn good job
awesome physique right there
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damn good job
awesome physique right there
^this
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i highly recommend slin, especially at your progression point and hgh usage. slin and hgh are very anabolic together in a synergistic manner and you don't need much. 10iu of humalin-r is sufficient pre-workout. you won't get a gut unless you overeat carbs, if that's what you're worried about
says the kid who runs 5 gram cycles.
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you must be a real MONSTER, eh sparky? lol
you're so full of shit i can smell you from Toronto.
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rly wanna see the progress but ur image isn't showing up fo me. Anyone wana rehost it. Diff format lol? Rly curious
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Looking real good, BiGHer.
Question, what is your weight/height? Also, do you mind giving an idea of what else you ran along with the kig for those 3 weeks?
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u has big muskels
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Looking real good, BiGHer.
Question, what is your weight/height? Also, do you mind giving an idea of what else you ran along with the kig for those 3 weeks?
There's a thread on here from 11-11 where the picture on the right is from. Search for it and all my cycle, diet, and training info are the same, but I just switched to Kigs the next day.
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10-15iu insulin before gym is enough if you're on good gh. Don't touch it the rest of the day
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You look better in the 1st pic.
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Never touched slin... I know it will be a reality at some point as I advance, but not yet.
Did your midsection look similar before using HGH or did it change and how?
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clear improvements. this is how clear: before reading your post, i saw the pictures and thought "1st pic is always the before pic and then 2nd pic is usually the after, but why does he look BIGGER in the 1st pic?" and then read how it was the other way around.
obvious "surface muscle" added too. you LOOK wider, but obviously clavicles are the same in both pictures but alot more surface to chest area and very obviously the delts.
arms too if you compare buldges of biceps and triceps in the same pose.
awesome work in proving what has been said all along about growth hormone and bodybuilding.
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You look better in the 1st pic.
I think his teardrops look better in the first picture and his abs seem to look a little better, but he does look thicker and wider in the second picture.he appears more vascular in the 2nd picture. honestly you could go either way with the pictures some might thing he looks better in the first some might think he looks better in the second. I think he has more size on him in the 2nd pic. good physique either way. good job.
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You look better in the 1st pic.
x2 or maybe the way you're posing in the 2nd pic..
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I believe he is fuller and vascular now.
some says the first picture is better but maybe it's just a little gh bloat.
amazing physique anyway before or after bro :)
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x2 or maybe the way you're posing in the 2nd pic..
THE 1ST PIC IS THE AFTER PHOTO. UNLESS YOU MEANT OTHERWISE.
AS FOR KIGS....DL OR KAMI?
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the first pic is AFTER
the second pic is BEFORE
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Look awesome bro. Very full and round. Keep it up!
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the first pic is AFTER
the second pic is BEFORE
haha ..i thought it was the before and i was like.. "the guy is shooting hcg instead of hgh" ;D
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the first pic is AFTER
the second pic is BEFORE
This^^^^^... sorry guys about my bad use of the computer...
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Did your midsection look similar before using HGH or did it change and how?
Midsection is tighter after using hgh
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Great physique dude..........big props!!
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GH what do you think of thanktropin ???
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I had the same reaction as Secret Stack, I was wondering why the first pic was bigger than the 2nd and then I saw the after was the first pic and the before the 2nd.
Well, legit gh is damnnn powerful... ! It's almost unbelievable the changes that occur in such a short time frame. Thank you BiGHer for these pics (no need to tell you have a great physique you already know it), I'm officially part of the team gh15 now.
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You actually look better in the "before" picture which is the one NOT in the locker room. Your waist looks lighter, your chest has better shape and it's a physique that you can have at the beach and the bitches would get wet over. Your "after" photo will now attract the looks of homos and black guys complimenting you on how "thick" you are.
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you went through 2 kits of growth in 19 days? you must either have a money tree in the backyard or have robbed a dealer, lol.
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you went through 2 kits of growth in 19 days? you must either have a money tree in the backyard or have robbed a dealer, lol.
Definitely no money tree, but I do work 60-80 hours a week. With no kids or car payments though I'm able to subsidize my bodybuilding career.
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you went through 2 kits of growth in 19 days? you must either have a money tree in the backyard or have robbed a dealer, lol.
Only about $300 Dave, I know what the government pays you every month isn't much but come on
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you went through 2 kits of growth in 19 days? you must either have a money tree in the backyard or have robbed a dealer, lol.
10iu a day is pretty standard for a lot of guys who compete
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you went through 2 kits of growth in 19 days? you must either have a money tree in the backyard or have robbed a dealer, lol.
Holy fuck, it's Dave! Still smelling doritos from women undies?
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lol@ 150 dollar kits, shit is probably so watered down theres barely any in it, you get what you pay for.
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Lets get to the good part,
What is your diet looks like? ;D
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lol@ 150 dollar kits, shit is probably so watered down theres barely any in it, you get what you pay for.
Nah dude, good sources have real good stuff for $150-200 kit.
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I like the pic on the right better, you look alot tighter and your muscles are seperated more just my opinion but looking good man
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look good..
add size, but good size, kept overall thickness.. very good stuff I see..
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really can't tell a difference, you need the same lighting, same outfit on, it is hard to tell anything changed bro, time of day you took the picture depending on if you ate or just worked out etc.
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u has big muskels
LMFAO! hahah
yeah, you look great bro, keep it going. Be interesting to see what you look like in 6 months like God says
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Bboy told me in a pm that a VERY well known pro (pm me for who) ;), told him that gh is all that fucken matters. Use as much of it as you can afford, as long as you can afford it. Of course gh15 has been saying this all along :) but it's nice to hear other opinions agreeing with eacother! He said as for steroids, take them obviously ....but it really doesn't matter as much as people think when it comes to AAS combinations. I was personally very suprised to hear this.
It Makes me wonder... could someone be a pro on moderate dosages of testosterone and mega doses of gh ??? Imagine the health you could save yourself if that were the case and you only had to up the androgens a couple times a year for contest prep
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Fucking monster. Difficult to tell with different angles, lighting and distance from camera. Think about that for your next progress pics. How big are those arms/quads?
Good luck!
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Bboy told me in a pm that a VERY well known pro (pm me for who) ;), told him that gh is all that fucken matters. Use as much of it as you can afford, as long as you can afford it. Of course gh15 has been saying this all along :) but it's nice to hear other opinions agreeing with eacother! He said as for steroids, take them obviously ....but it really doesn't matter as much as people think when it comes to AAS combinations. I was personally very suprised to hear this.
It Makes me wonder... could someone be a pro on moderate dosages of testosterone and mega doses of gh ??? Imagine the health you could save yourself if that were the case and you only had to up the androgens a couple times a year for contest prep
if b-boy turns pro then you have your answer and it looks like he will at his rate.
also i agree entirely, what matters is how many miligrams per week you run, not what you run. primo, and var, whatever, it will put on real muscle just as well if not better than test because they are more anabolic than test and cause less sides, equaling higher dosages. people blow up quick and can get huge on a lot of test/deca, then think they are actually that large but in reality, if they get in contest shape, they lose all the water weight from inside their muscles and look like a shriveled prune. when people refer to mature muscle, that's what they're talking about, the actual muscle fibers you've caused to hypertrophy, not the water you hold in your muscles, and while i'm not going to post the reasons for why exactly (since no one will care) hgh + slin increases hypertrophy of your muscle fibers by a huge degree when used concurrently with anabolics, and it's what takes the 1980's sized pro-bodybuilder and turns him into a 21st century bodybuilder. and then of course, there's also seo, which is the real black sheep that no one ever mentions pretending it doesn't exist, even though everyone is using it at the pro level, and it's what takes someone from the size of 1999 competitors to the current level of mass monsters of today
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if b-boy turns pro then you have your answer and it looks like he will at his rate.
also i agree entirely, what matters is how many miligrams per week you run, not what you run. primo, and var, whatever, it will put on real muscle just as well if not better than test because they are more anabolic than test and cause less sides, equaling higher dosages. people blow up quick and can get huge on a lot of test/deca, then think they are actually that large but in reality, if they get in contest shape, they lose all the water weight from inside their muscles and look like a shriveled prune. when people refer to mature muscle, that's what they're talking about, the actual muscle fibers you've caused to hypertrophy, not the water you hold in your muscles, and while i'm not going to post the reasons for why exactly (since no one will care) hgh + slin increases hypertrophy of your muscle fibers by a huge degree when used concurrently with anabolics, and it's what takes the 1980's sized pro-bodybuilder and turns him into a 21st century bodybuilder. and then of course, there's also seo, which is the real black sheep that no one ever mentions pretending it doesn't exist, even though everyone is using it at the pro level, and it's what takes someone from the size of 1999 competitors to the current level of mass monsters of today
how far can one get on mega doses of anabolics without gh in your opinion? 70's look at best I'm thinking..
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if b-boy turns pro then you have your answer and it looks like he will at his rate.
also i agree entirely, what matters is how many miligrams per week you run, not what you run. primo, and var, whatever, it will put on real muscle just as well if not better than test because they are more anabolic than test and cause less sides, equaling higher dosages. people blow up quick and can get huge on a lot of test/deca, then think they are actually that large but in reality, if they get in contest shape, they lose all the water weight from inside their muscles and look like a shriveled prune. when people refer to mature muscle, that's what they're talking about, the actual muscle fibers you've caused to hypertrophy, not the water you hold in your muscles, and while i'm not going to post the reasons for why exactly (since no one will care) hgh + slin increases hypertrophy of your muscle fibers by a huge degree when used concurrently with anabolics, and it's what takes the 1980's sized pro-bodybuilder and turns him into a 21st century bodybuilder. and then of course, there's also seo, which is the real black sheep that no one ever mentions pretending it doesn't exist, even though everyone is using it at the pro level, and it's what takes someone from the size of 1999 competitors to the current level of mass monsters of today
ahahahahaha says the 5 gram cycle using wonder of Getbig.
you must be MASSIVE, eh sparky.
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Bboy told me in a pm that a VERY well known pro (pm me for who) ;), told him that gh is all that fucken matters. Use as much of it as you can afford, as long as you can afford it. Of course gh15 has been saying this all along :) but it's nice to hear other opinions agreeing with eacother! He said as for steroids, take them obviously ....but it really doesn't matter as much as people think when it comes to AAS combinations. I was personally very suprised to hear this.
It Makes me wonder... could someone be a pro on moderate dosages of testosterone and mega doses of gh ??? Imagine the health you could save yourself if that were the case and you only had to up the androgens a couple times a year for contest prep
"but it really doesn't matter as much as people think when it comes to AAS combinations."...So very true !!
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"but it really doesn't matter as much as people think when it comes to AAS combinations."...So very true !!
Disgusted mentioned this not too long ago.
when one drug gets taken out or lowered, the other drugs need to come up to match the same total dosage.
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how far can one get on mega doses of anabolics without gh in your opinion? 70's look at best I'm thinking..
with just anabolics you can get a perfect aesthetic body, as big or probably bigger than those in the 70s, probably with 18+ inch arms while completely shredded.
but the question is, why would you not want to run hgh? hgh has very minimal, if any sides and comes with a lot of benefits, the only downside is the price but using moderate dosages can keep the cost affordable.
also, as my esteemed friend, who happens to follow me around into every thread misquoting me, just pointed out, the hgh gut isn't from the hgh or even the insulin but rather from large influxes of carbohydrates which lead to a fatty liver and visceral fat accumulation in the abdomen. when pros run 100iu a day, using the standard formula for slin dosage of 1iu per 10 carbs consumed (though pros use it backwards, using as much slin as possible then consuming carbs as a necessity) that's 1,000 grams of carbs in a day. no one needs that many and that's what causes the horribly distended stomach as those carbs have no where to go, and high blood sugar levels are poisonous so the body removes it the only way it can - storing it as visceral fat. you can run hgh at any dosage and you won't get it, insulin is a bit different though since it's directly tied to carb intake but, with low dosages of insulin and moderate carbs (carbs is what matters here) you will never get the distended stomach from visceral fat. but if you do you can get rid of the visceral fat easily with a keto diet, or if you are lazy and impatient, dnp will remove it in about a week and a half depending on how much you have. a larger concern is adding mass to the obliques as it will ruin the v-taper, and hypertrophied obliques are essentially permanent. make sure to never directly (or at at least very minimally if you are on gear) target your obliques.
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JUST MAKE SURE THE AAS DOSAGE IS THE SAME, THE QUALITY IS THERE, AND YOU GIVE IT TIME. OBVIOUSLY EAT AND TRAIN TO WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT THATS ONLY GONNA DO SO MUCH ITS THE DRUGS.
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look great in both pics. How big are those arms?
are you worried about sides from that much gh?
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look great in both pics. How big are those arms?
are you worried about sides from that much gh?
My arms are 19-1/4" cold flex. Which sides should I be worried about? However, I'll answer it this way... My goal is to turn pro and I've accepted what that requires regardless of the risk involved. I've said this before, I'd rather die enjoying life the way I want to then have shyed away from doing the things I want to due to risk involved. Take these 2 guys ikn this video that was posted in another thread:
http://vimeo.com/31241154
Do you think there is risk involved in what they do? (IMO, there is much more risk in this than high dose gh, no?) Does it stop them from doing it?? Why?? Cuz they love it and it makes them happy.
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how far can one get on mega doses of anabolics without gh in your opinion? 70's look at best I'm thinking..
"how far can one get on mega doses of anabolics without gh in your opinion?"...Far, very far !!
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Looking great man. Keep up the hard work ;)
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My arms are 19-1/4" cold flex. Which sides should I be worried about? However, I'll answer it this way... My goal is to turn pro and I've accepted what that requires regardless of the risk involved. I've said this before, I'd rather die enjoying life the way I want to then have shyed away from doing the things I want to due to risk involved. Take these 2 guys ikn this video that was posted in another thread:
http://vimeo.com/31241154
Do you think there is risk involved in what they do? (IMO, there is much more risk in this than high dose gh, no?) Does it stop them from doing it?? Why?? Cuz they love it and it makes them happy.
Breathtaking video. Absolutely awesome.
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how far can one get on mega doses of anabolics without gh in your opinion? 70's look at best I'm thinking..
you can get big as hell, but you can get much bigger and much better conditioning with GH.. big conditioned muscle is what its about today, you will not achieve that big conditioned 3D look without GH... you want a good looking physique then keep insulin to a minimum (don't go apeshit with it)!
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My arms are 19-1/4" cold flex. Which sides should I be worried about? However, I'll answer it this way... My goal is to turn pro and I've accepted what that requires regardless of the risk involved. I've said this before, I'd rather die enjoying life the way I want to then have shyed away from doing the things I want to due to risk involved. Take these 2 guys ikn this video that was posted in another thread:
http://vimeo.com/31241154
Do you think there is risk involved in what they do? (IMO, there is much more risk in this than high dose gh, no?) Does it stop them from doing it?? Why?? Cuz they love it and it makes them happy.
didnt even think of health risks, apart from possible LVH.. I meant any acro sides at that dose.
B-boy do you think that gut-growth can be prevented by not running slin with the gh?
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this is what i love about getbig, no lies about "natural", instead growth hormone reviews ;D
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didnt even think of health risks, apart from possible LVH.. I meant any acro sides at that dose.
B-boy do you think that gut-growth can be prevented by not running slin with the gh?
yes its a combo of overeating and over insulin use. Decent amount of growth with on and off small insulin use has kept my gut from growing.
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Killer physique Bigher
No doubt you have what it takes to go far in bodybuilding. Awesome thickness, shape and good height. Keep plugging away on your goal to become pro!
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this is what i love about getbig, no lies about "natural", instead growth hormone reviews ;D
this
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Looking great man. Keep up the hard work ;)
Gimmick account spotted.
So fella you used your 4th post to give props and a hay-wink to another fella.
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Gimmick account spotted.
So fella you used your 4th post to give props and a hay-wink to another fella.
rofl don't see the connection between the two?
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Silly newb question: for the casual gym rat who just wants to be big, can you cycle on and off w/ gh and still retain most gains? Or is it once you're on, you gotta stay on like AAS?
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Gimmick account spotted.
So fella you used your 4th post to give props and a hay-wink to another fella.
LOL at you thinking Defiant Labs is a gimmick account. Be thankful he is posting here and show respect please...
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Silly newb question: for the casual gym rat who just wants to be big, can you cycle on and off w/ gh and still retain most gains? Or is it once you're on, you gotta stay on like AAS?
GH gains fade 3-6 months post use. How big that 3-6 month window is for you depends on how much and how long you been on gh.
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GH gains fade 3-6 months post use. How big that 3-6 month window is for you depends on how much and how long you been on gh.
But doesn't GH actually multiply cell count and create new ones? Those new cells evaporate and disappear, or simply decrease in size? So, for example, if I were to run GH for a while, stop and never workout again, wouldn't I be "bigger" than if I were to stop working out now since I haven't done GH?
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But doesn't GH actually multiply cell count and create new ones? Those new cells evaporate and disappear, or simply decrease in size? So, for example, if I were to run GH for a while, stop and never workout again, wouldn't I be "bigger" than if I were to stop working out now since I haven't done GH?
No, it all fades in times. On is on and normal is normal... The longer you are on then the longer you can pull the illusion that you are on when you come off. In the end though, your body seeks homeostasis and balances out. No gains are permanent beyond your natural attainable limits. Maybe 5-10 lbs added to that when off and clean. Don't complicate things too much like it seems to me that you are doing. If you don't have gh in the blood, your physique will slowly fade and the 3 dimesional look becomes lost.
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you were never ment to have them to begin with,, when the window is close you are back to what god wanted you to be ,, the new fibers are something that is CHANGING YOUR GENETIC COMPOSITION ,, IT IS NEW YOU,, it never last,, it is like when superman go inside the phone boot as clark and come out as superman,, you create a freak ...the freak is you ,, the freak is temporary and will last as logn as gh is there to make is last + window of opertunity of 3-6 months after depend on duration of use and dosage
gh15 approved
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you were never ment to have them to begin with,, when the window is close you are back to what god wanted you to be ,, the new fibers are something that is CHANGING YOUR GENETIC COMPOSITION ,, IT IS NEW YOU,, it never last,, it is like when superman go inside the phone boot as clark and come out as superman,, you create a freak ...the freak is you ,, the freak is temporary and will last as logn as gh is there to make is last + window of opertunity of 3-6 months after depend on duration of use and dosage
gh15 approved
is it better to prime with gh only before going on and blitzing aas or running them both simultaneously is best? will you have a different look if you prime first with growth?
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is it better to prime with gh only before going on and blitzing aas or running them both simultaneously is best? will you have a different look if you prime first with growth?
Some prime with GH, some prime with AAS, some use them both together... All will get you the same result, just a different road to getting there.
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so basically running growth without aas will just create new fibers that are ready to be blown up and get you shredded?
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so basically running growth without aas will just create new fibers that are ready to be blown up and get you shredded?
Yes.. gh gives you new fibers and AAS develops them... A(GH)+B(AAS)=C(you, now a looking more like a freak).
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you were never ment to have them to begin with,, when the window is close you are back to what god wanted you to be ,, the new fibers are something that is CHANGING YOUR GENETIC COMPOSITION ,, IT IS NEW YOU,, it never last,, it is like when superman go inside the phone boot as clark and come out as superman,, you create a freak ...the freak is you ,, the freak is temporary and will last as logn as gh is there to make is last + window of opertunity of 3-6 months after depend on duration of use and dosage
gh15 approved
Well, this is depressing.
I guess I'll always be cruising once I hit 35. Can I continue looking big into my 50's and 60's without major health problems if I take "moderate" dosage of AAS and GH?
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Interesting conversation from all sides! Thanks!
Bigher, are you nationally qualified yet?
Same question for you, B-Boy.
And sorry if my Nat'l Qual question has already been discussed.
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Yes.. gh gives you new fibers and AAS develops them... A(GH)+B(AAS)=C(you, now a looking more like a freak).
Testosterone has shown to do this as well.
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Well, this is depressing.
I guess I'll always be cruising once I hit 35. Can I continue looking big into my 50's and 60's without major health problems if I take "moderate" dosage of AAS and GH?
oh ,, there is no bodybuild after 35 unless on gh and aas,, no bodybuild over the age of 35 is doing it with out gh ,, you got to be a completre retard to work with no gh if you bodybuild after 30-35,, you will never get anywhere,, its like pee against wind
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oh ,, there is no bodybuild after 35 unless on gh and aas,, no bodybuild over the age of 35 is doing it with out gh ,, you got to be a completre retard to work with no gh if you bodybuild after 30-35,, you will never get anywhere,, its like pee against wind
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can't be a competitive bodybuilder without hgh and insulin in first place, anyways.
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Interesting conversation from all sides! Thanks!
Bigher, are you nationally qualified yet?
Same question for you, B-Boy.
And sorry if my Nat'l Qual question has already been discussed.
what you mean national qualify? bboy is a pro ,, he shoudl won last time if he did the usa or some other ocmpetiion he would be pro alredy,, he is walking pro in amatuer ranks its frastrating to knwo you are pro level and stil do amatuer,, btu he is profesional within a year unles someone is realy up to get him which i dont thikn anyone is
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can't be a competitive bodybuilder without hgh and insulin in first place, anyways.
no you can be with no insulina ,,gh a must now day for highg level
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I truly truly believe gh15 was sent here by god for flinstones specifically..I remember I say a prayer on Bar Mitzvah at 13 to be guided well in whatever endeavor I decide and I choose bodybuild and boom I find getbig/gh15.. I feel sorry for the older guys who were not so fortunate, find out at 32 years old the secret lies in the gh. And DANTE specifically all those fools from early 2000's in cycle for pennies who were lied to and never got anywhere cause of the "2 grams of test some tren.. and maybe a couple of IU of gh if it can be afforded" Fuck that bastard
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Testosterone has shown to do this as well.
not even close to hgh,,hgh is genetics in a bottle,, testosterona is balls in a bottle
gh15 approved
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I truly truly believe gh15 was sent here by god for flinstones specifically..I remember I say a prayer on Bar Mitzvah at 13 to be guided well in whatever endeavor I decide and I choose bodybuild and boom I find getbig/gh15.. I feel sorry for the older guys who were not so fortunate, find out at 32 years old the secret lies in the gh. And DANTE specifically all those fools from early 2000's in cycle for pennies who were lied to and never got anywhere cause of the "2 grams of test some tren.. and maybe a couple of IU of gh if it can be afforded" Fuck that bastard
the secret is in gh ,, yes,, and not only any gh ,, but! legit gh dose right and pure,, if you think fellas just walk around 225 250 lb 5'9 7% just because they are genetic marvels lol big mistake ,, they all abusers of hgh ,, they keep the best gh for themselfs,, and legit pure gh will make changes DAILY on physqe,, ask any bodybuild with experience and they wil tell you DAILY CHANGES ON LEGIT GH THAT IS EUIVALENET TO PHARM GRADE,, just try kigtropin and you shall see,, try serostim ,, try any legit gh that is pharm grade equivalent ,, every day changes!
gh15 approved
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no you can be with no insulina ,,gh a must now day for highg level
gh15 approved
well, you know what i mean.
no hormone no buildybuild. no hgh no plastic trophy.
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so basically running growth without aas will just create new fibers that are ready to be blown up and get you shredded?
it's not that black and white. Hgh builds muscle through like 400 different pathways...there is a hell of alot more going on when you take growth hormone than just giving you new muscle cells. . I tried to fight it with gh15 for a while (as many others have ), but there is no fighting it..One look at the bodybuilders from the 90's vs the 70's and 80's and you realize You can't even talk about anabolic steroids and HGH in the same sentence. One is a fake rolex and the other is a rolex lol...the fake can look good on its own in some cases! If the whores in the club are stupid (if you have high natural gh levels) .. but it will never be a real rolex 8)
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you can get big as hell, but you can get much bigger and much better conditioning with GH.. big conditioned muscle is what its about today, you will not achieve that big conditioned 3D look without GH... you want a good looking physique then keep insulin to a minimum (don't go apeshit with it)!
I echo this, insulin before gym is enough, abuse it and look like shit
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i can tell you this in regard legit gh of the pharm grade level and it doesnt mean only americano or europian gh some china gh is also pharm grade level as i said...
pharm grade level gh will not only 3 dimention you within days...not only will take your body fat down ,, not only will let you eat whatevr you want basicaly ,, but! what it also do and this is the big big secret and this is why scambags like markus from steroid.com and other scambags from more main stream boaridng say bad thing about some chian gh and make it sound very general ....they in reality want to keep the gh for themselfs,, they want that kigtropin for themslves! they want it for their hook ups etc ,, yes yes you hear this right,,, as i said the big big secret in legit pharm grade gh is THAT IS TAKESSSSSSSSSSSSS THE WATER OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT FROM BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE AND SHRINK WRAP YOU INTO YOUR OWN SKIN ! this is the diff between high level gh and low level gh ,, they can both be legit but the pharm grade will have minimal water retention and actualy will pull out PULL OUT water from bad places and put them in GOOD PLACES,,
this is what the scambags dont tell you and keep all this gh for thsmelves,, yes those moderate,, and those vetrens that have 40 thousand posting and part of the kiss ass phenomenon ,, they all want it for themlves and their hook ups,,
you get balonie...they get the GOOD STUFF!
learn it !
gh15 approved
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Interesting conversation from all sides! Thanks!
Bigher, are you nationally qualified yet?
Same question for you, B-Boy.
And sorry if my Nat'l Qual question has already been discussed.
No, I am not. I have only competed in one show.
Also, b-boy is in a different league than me at the point. I'm not ignorant or arrogant enough to start comparing myself to him. I'm 5'10" @251 in the photos here. b-boy is like 5'5" @ 245 or something and the majority of that is conditioned muscle. The guy is thick as house. Like gh15 said, he's a walking pro in the amateur ranks.
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Looking fantastic OP. Actually looks like someone who should be bodybuilding, not some genetic failure abusing drugs to make up for his shortcomings. Good stuff.
Only two things I will say is to keep the waist tight somehow. and maybe get some more thickness in the upper chest.
Also what is the back looking like? With additional thickness, seems you might be able to destroy a few well known pros. Got the shape and symmetry.
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Looking fantastic OP. Actually looks like someone who should be bodybuilding, not some genetic failure abusing drugs to make up for his shortcomings. Good stuff.
Only two things I will say is to keep the waist tight somehow. and maybe get some more thickness in the upper chest.
Also what is the back looking like? With additional thickness, seems you might be able to destroy a few well known pros. Got the shape and symmetry.
I've posted progress pic threads on here before. If you search my board name, I'm sure they'll pop up.