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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: NeilGM on December 09, 2011, 11:28:17 PM
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Phase 4 is overdue, I am sure many people are interested to see what will be in it...But what do people think it is going to contain? There has been some hints of what is going to go into it, is this just being hyped up or is GH going to pull something extra oridinary out of the hat?
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i think phase 4 will be about diuretics,insulin protocol etc...definitely not for the average gymrat..
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Yeah, me to, I think he working on something with an elf or two, maybe some transformations etc to show it
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He said yesterday he hasn't written it because of threats he received aimed at known elves.
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gh15 shine so hard he make motherfuckers want kill him..
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i think it has to do with insulin and ephedra
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i think it has to do with insulin and ephedra
Ephedra is some crazy shit. Just started insulin a few weeks ago and with decent gh doses added to gh15 aas protocols you have some potent growth going on. Eat eat eat, look fat at night, huge and hard in the AM.
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Ephedra is some crazy shit. Just started insulin a few weeks ago and with decent gh doses added to gh15 aas protocols you have some potent growth going on. Eat eat eat, look fat at night, huge and hard in the AM.
What's your insulin protocol like? I won't be touching that shit for many years to come (if ever), but it's always good to have some knowledge.
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ephedrina ;D
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What's your insulin protocol like? I won't be touching that shit for many years to come (if ever), but it's always good to have some knowledge.
10iu pre am meal, 10 iu PW.
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It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.
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It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.
Cmon baby arnold
Don't you like God
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Cmon baby arnold
Don't you like God
GH15 says some good things. I don't have anything against him personally because I don't know who he is. Sure, I have an idea about who he is but that doesn't really matter.
Anyway, my beef has never really been with GH15, although he has contradicted himself several times over the years...but we probably all do that to an extent from time to time. My beef is with the people that worship him. To start, it's annoying. Secondly, most of the people who love him seem to do so because he says "to be a big bodybuilder you have to take a lot of hormones" this is the basic premise and I don't understand how anyone can act like this is new groundbreaking news.
I remember posting articles here on getbig years ago talking about big hormone use and I was ridiculed and told I was out of my mind. I remember getting run off a few boards back in the day for that kind of talk. All I'm saying is it's not groundbreaking stuff here....it wasn't when I was posting it and it's not now. I mean I can sum it all up in a few bullet points. Anyway, you only find the young guys who have been around are the ones calling him god....the rest of us just feel he's pointing out the obvious.
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It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.
Have you personally run his stacks? He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.
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Have you personally run his stacks? He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.
Rearden,
I can't agree with you more. It is astonishing to me that people actually argue against GH15's advice, and I also notice a common theme among these people- they often point out irrelevant and false points to "weaken the argument." A common theme of dissent among GH15's haters is, "your wallet will go empty", or however they choose to phrase it. On the contrary, GH15 has saved me thousands of dollars in the past couple of years- thousands upon thousands. I followed phase 2 of his bible to the T, and stopped funding the industry of lies (supplements), with the exception of two things- a basic pre workout for the occasion when I am truly exhausted, and 2:1:1 recover, which gives you 100 grams of carbs and 100 grams of protein with 3 scoops and I love to use it post workout. I buy the tillapia that he suggests buy the bulk; the rice; etc'. This leads me to the other common theme among GH15 haters: "he only promotes an obvious cause and affect: more drugs equates to better results". Gh15 talks about much more than hormones. He taught me how to eat right and he taught me to get off that site of lies (bb.c0m in short hand) which told me to never have the cheat meal and to eat chicken breast and rice. Bull shit. I retained more fat on that kind of diet than I ever have because my metabolism was as slow as Dick Cheney's. These sites promote massive lies; dangerous propaganda. Layne Norton is beyond a liar- he is a thief. He is just another part of the engine that steals so much money from the ignorant, and on a relative tangent, this is just a microcosm of the failing american economy. Do you think the stock market does not adhere to a rely upon a similar web of propaganda, fear and false hope that the supplement industry does? Many of you will immediately assume the previous statement is outlandish and false, but I can thoroughly back up my point if any of you are interested in the similarities. How many people on wall street actually know the truth about their industry and how many are pawns? How many people in bodybuilding actually know the truth about our industry and how many are peons? We are starting a movement in the name of honesty to better our fellow bodybuilder. When somebody with knowledge of the truth of the economy starts their own movement, the economy slowly gets fixed. That is how important I think GH15 is. I think he is the whistleblower that is saving this industry, and if you don't want his advice, then continue posting false arguments. Continue feeding into the propaganda machine that is the supplement industry. Feed the liar Norton and feed the owners of bb.com. Be another pawn.
I'll just continue to follow the truth. And whenever phase 4 comes out, I will laugh at the hatred that it receives, and at the same time I will follow the information to a T.
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Smoof (best name evar),
Paragraphs. Holy shit bro!
I read it tho and agree obviously.
Gh15 is a character and of course he is flawed like any other human. But the bottom line is his advice is pure gold. Pick up the bible and be born again because the truth shall set you free!
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Have you personally run his stacks? He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.
I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.
All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.
All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.
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He said yesterday he hasn't written it because of threats he received aimed at known elves.
Thats pathetic of people to do that. Shows you what money does to people, in the quest for it they become greedy liars and try to ruin other people.
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Rearden,
I can't agree with you more. It is astonishing to me that people actually argue against GH15's advice, and I also notice a common theme among these people- they often point out irrelevant and false points to "weaken the argument." A common theme of dissent among GH15's haters is, "your wallet will go empty", or however they choose to phrase it. On the contrary, GH15 has saved me thousands of dollars in the past couple of years- thousands upon thousands. I followed phase 2 of his bible to the T, and stopped funding the industry of lies (supplements), with the exception of two things- a basic pre workout for the occasion when I am truly exhausted, and 2:1:1 recover, which gives you 100 grams of carbs and 100 grams of protein with 3 scoops and I love to use it post workout. I buy the tillapia that he suggests buy the bulk; the rice; etc'. This leads me to the other common theme among GH15 haters: "he only promotes an obvious cause and affect: more drugs equates to better results". Gh15 talks about much more than hormones. He taught me how to eat right and he taught me to get off that site of lies (bb.c0m in short hand) which told me to never have the cheat meal and to eat chicken breast and rice. Bull shit. I retained more fat on that kind of diet than I ever have because my metabolism was as slow as Dick Cheney's. These sites promote massive lies; dangerous propaganda. Layne Norton is beyond a liar- he is a thief. He is just another part of the engine that steals so much money from the ignorant, and on a relative tangent, this is just a microcosm of the failing american economy. Do you think the stock market does not adhere to a rely upon a similar web of propaganda, fear and false hope that the supplement industry does? Many of you will immediately assume the previous statement is outlandish and false, but I can thoroughly back up my point if any of you are interested in the similarities. How many people on wall street actually know the truth about their industry and how many are pawns? How many people in bodybuilding actually know the truth about our industry and how many are peons? We are starting a movement in the name of honesty to better our fellow bodybuilder. When somebody with knowledge of the truth of the economy starts their own movement, the economy slowly gets fixed. That is how important I think GH15 is. I think he is the whistleblower that is saving this industry, and if you don't want his advice, then continue posting false arguments. Continue feeding into the propaganda machine that is the supplement industry. Feed the liar Norton and feed the owners of bb.com. Be another pawn.
I'll just continue to follow the truth. And whenever phase 4 comes out, I will laugh at the hatred that it receives, and at the same time I will follow the information to a T.
See above post.
For whatever it's worth, you're talking to a guy who makes his living in the industry you seem to hate and say is full of lies. I've worked in media, with supplement companies, marketing, show promotion and everything in-between. I'll admit, there's a lot of garbage out there, and that goes for supplements and what certain people say. At the same time, it's not all garbage, not all supplements are bad, and not everything everyone says in this industry is a lie. Even you yourself don't believe everything is a lie, if you did, you wouldn't be taken the two supplements you do take.
When it comes to supplements, absolutely, most of them are not worth your time. Yes, there are some good supplements out there, but there's no supplement out there that's going to turn you into a pro bodybuilder.
When it comes to the articles written....depending on the type of article you're talking about....absolutely, there's some great information out there. At the same time, there is information that can be somewhat misleading if you don't know how to read between the lines. This is the same practice used in every marketing venture on earth. If you drink Bud Light you're not going to automatically be surrounded by 50 beautiful women, and you know this but you choose to drink Bud Light because you like it....or eat this food, or drive this car or whatever. However, when it comes to supplements, people seem to flip on a different switch in their brain....they so badly want to assume if they eat XYZ protein bar they'll look like Arnold, or they'll get the girl. What causes this thinking here and not at other places? I have no idea.
Further, you have to remember, and this is very important, extremely important....when you're writing an article for a magazine or website, or speaking on the behalf of XYZ company, you are bound strictly by the constraints of the law. No one is saying massive steroid use isn't a part of the game, but no one can openly in an official way say that it is in a manner that could be taken as promotion. Granted, the IFBB takes it too far, they hide behind a misleading veil of purity that is greater than it needs to be....but a lot of it is out of fear, and that is somewhat understandable. There are those out there who would love nothing more than to see the IFBB and bodybuilding itself nothing more than a discussion for the history books.
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I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.
All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.
All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.
Fair enough, the difference is there is a strong persona about GH15 that people are attracted to and he is popular because of this. Im sure there are plenty of other guys been preaching the real information for years well before GH15 on boards etc, but obviously he has done it in a way that appeals to many people, more so than people before him as he has got a huge following.
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I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.
All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.
All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.
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It's not that what gh15 says is revolutionary, per se, it's that his insistence that the presence of drugs on a year round basis in high enough doses to be effective plus the RIGHT compounds and purity has never been stressed to the degree he stresses.
Up until gh15, we all thought that OF COURSE drugs did the job, but that genetics and training and food had bigger roles in the equation than they do.
I'm 33 and I keep bumping up the dose little by little... and now I'm finally mutating. Now I finally found my genetics? I doubt it.
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Smoof (best name evar),
Paragraphs. Holy shit bro!
I read it tho and agree obviously.
Gh15 is a character and of course he is flawed like any other human. But the bottom line is his advice is pure gold. Pick up the bible and be born again because the truth shall set you free!
Amen to that brother ........ gh15 is like pure gold god bless him and his crew!!
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his new phase is low test,,,,,,,,,,,,,
now he was advising an amp ed along with an amp of decca just the other year, as well as pink thai db
pink thais were pushed in the same way he was pushing tren, no pink thai no bodybuild, no thai no thick 3d muscle balonie
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his new phase is low test,,,,,,,,,,,,,
now he was advising an amp ed along with an amp of decca just the other year, as well as pink thai db
pink thais were pushed in the same way he was pushing tren, no pink thai no bodybuild, no thai no thick 3d muscle balonie
except for the fact that tren was never pushed as the 3d look....
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except for the fact that tren was never pushed as the 3d look....
tren according to gh was only good for cattle... at best ok to get you cut
no thai pinks, no bodybuild............... ........ just repeating whats been written bud
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He is busy with kigtropina :)
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tren according to gh was only good for cattle... at best ok to get you cut
no thai pinks, no bodybuild............... ........ just repeating whats been written bud
lol show the posts then...... what makes you think people only used tren when gh15 came around... its always been the number one steroid used for getting ripped, kids doing their first contests know this......
most guys will combine it with winny, that however is something that gh15 doesnt really condone much although hes mention zambons before..
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See above post.
For whatever it's worth, you're talking to a guy who makes his living in the industry you seem to hate and say is full of lies. I've worked in media, with supplement companies, marketing, show promotion and everything in-between. I'll admit, there's a lot of garbage out there, and that goes for supplements and what certain people say. At the same time, it's not all garbage, not all supplements are bad, and not everything everyone says in this industry is a lie. Even you yourself don't believe everything is a lie, if you did, you wouldn't be taken the two supplements you do take.
When it comes to supplements, absolutely, most of them are not worth your time. Yes, there are some good supplements out there, but there's no supplement out there that's going to turn you into a pro bodybuilder.
When it comes to the articles written....depending on the type of article you're talking about....absolutely, there's some great information out there. At the same time, there is information that can be somewhat misleading if you don't know how to read between the lines. This is the same practice used in every marketing venture on earth. If you drink Bud Light you're not going to automatically be surrounded by 50 beautiful women, and you know this but you choose to drink Bud Light because you like it....or eat this food, or drive this car or whatever. However, when it comes to supplements, people seem to flip on a different switch in their brain....they so badly want to assume if they eat XYZ protein bar they'll look like Arnold, or they'll get the girl. What causes this thinking here and not at other places? I have no idea.
Further, you have to remember, and this is very important, extremely important....when you're writing an article for a magazine or website, or speaking on the behalf of XYZ company, you are bound strictly by the constraints of the law. No one is saying massive steroid use isn't a part of the game, but no one can openly in an official way say that it is in a manner that could be taken as promotion. Granted, the IFBB takes it too far, they hide behind a misleading veil of purity that is greater than it needs to be....but a lot of it is out of fear, and that is somewhat understandable. There are those out there who would love nothing more than to see the IFBB and bodybuilding itself nothing more than a discussion for the history books.
Arnold,,
Your point is well taken. I agree with you. I worked and profited greatly (for an 18-23 year old, the years I was involved with that industry to a large degree) from the supplement industry as well. The great irony that I found in the supplement industry however is that some of my closest business associates and friends lied to my face about what you had to take to be 5'11'' and 240-260 lbs @ under 8%. Guys who were 5'10'' and 240 @ 8, 9% constantly fed me lies, and these were people I worked with. Even when I began competing on a local, amateur level, they still fed me lies. It wasn't until I read some of these truths on gh-15, and then brought it up to these people (i.e. "So what do you think of adding some GH to my regime, and lowering the test down from 1.25 grams to 500 mg or so while I up the EQ and tren? What do you think about not ever doing another PCT again, and just cruising for a while between my blasts?") that they responded that all of those things are in fact what they did. I never asked them why they gave me bad advice. The answer is obvious, and I am not the type to start confrontations- I would rather think things through. And having two 6 foot tall, 220-260 lb guys screaming at each other in an office building isn't a good look anyways.
I no longer work in that industry, and I harbor some resentments towards it for the reasons I have laid out int he last two posts. Thank you for making those points though, they made me think things over and actually changed the way I look at certain aspects of the industry from a big picture standpoint. Sometimes you need to look at things from someone else's perspective to allow your own pursuit of certain truths to solidify.
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finaly somone who can explain gh15 with good gramer and asctualy understand what is behind gh15,, the rest knwo too but this fella nail it,, he write it well in his postings,, very very good
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this whole industry is based on illusion and lies in order to make some $$
I started bodybuilding when I was 17 years old, I started watching the Kevin Levrone videos and he was one of my first inspirations when I started working out. I thought at the time that nutrition, training, sleep had to be PERFECT in order to achieve their size. I have had a lot of fights with family back then because I wouldn't go out to eat with them to restaurants, avoid family gatherings because I had to get my meals in ever 3 hours. Lots of fights with GF because I would avoid going out with her for the gym. I went out with my friends but if it didn't work around my bodybuiilding schedule I would stay home.
This all happend till I was about 18.. thankfully it didn't last very long and i didn't exacly waste too much time in my life because of this. I would waste hundreds of $ on supplements because I thought it was they key to bodybuilding, I would force my parents into buying these things and i would have constant fights in order to achieve my goals.
A little after 18 I started to use ephedrine at high doses (i didn't know any better) 75-100mg... My body changed fast and I was getting compliments left and right "you look great" "your face is very attractive" "you working out? I can see from your shoulders" etc etc.... and at that point it clicked in my head the use of substances was the key to my goals
I immediately stopped using all supplements and started to look up into steroids... my first cycle was tren ace + deca.. I didn't know any better but let me tell you I exploded in many ways using that stack.. I won't go into details but this is when/how I started to believe that the whole supplement industry were a bunch of crooks and mislead kids into pursuing their goals.
After that I started to read gh15 in 2007 and he has changed everything for me
this is why I am very loyal to him and it's not "sucking up" like many of you retards thinks. It's called appreciation and you should all thank him for what he has done as there is no one like him.. NO ONE
there is A LOT of details I have missed, but I am trying to explain in a big picture what kind of crooks, filth's, liar's there is in the bodybuilding world
thank you gh15 :)
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this whole industry is based on illusion and lies in order to make some $$
I started bodybuilding when I was 17 years old, I started watching the Kevin Levrone videos and he was one of my first inspirations when I started working out. I thought at the time that nutrition, training, sleep had to be PERFECT in order to achieve their size. I have had a lot of fights with family back then because I wouldn't go out to eat with them to restaurants, avoid family gatherings because I had to get my meals in ever 3 hours. Lots of fights with GF because I would avoid going out with her for the gym. I went out with my friends but if it didn't work around my bodybuiilding schedule I would stay home.
This all happend till I was about 18.. thankfully it didn't last very long and i didn't exacly waste too much time in my life because of this. I would waste hundreds of $ on supplements because I thought it was they key to bodybuilding, I would force my parents into buying these things and i would have constant fights in order to achieve my goals.
A little after 18 I started to use ephedrine at high doses (i didn't know any better) 75-100mg... My body changed fast and I was getting compliments left and right "you look great" "your face is very attractive" "you working out? I can see from your shoulders" etc etc.... and at that point it clicked in my head the use of substances was the key to my goals
I immediately stopped using all supplements and started to look up into steroids... my first cycle was tren ace + deca.. I didn't know any better but let me tell you I exploded in many ways using that stack.. I won't go into details but this is when/how I started to believe that the whole supplement industry were a bunch of crooks and mislead kids into pursuing their goals.
After that I started to read gh15 in 2007 and he has changed everything for me
this is why I am very loyal to him and it's not "sucking up" like many of you retards thinks. It's called appreciation and you should all thank him for what he has done as there is no one like him.. NO ONE
there is A LOT of details I have missed, but I am trying to explain in a big picture what kind of crooks, filth's, liar's there is in the bodybuilding world
thank you gh15 :)
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head elf in thunderdome for reasnon ,, because he speak the truth ,, he describe you in detail the TRUTH,,
if i had a penny to the number of fellas hee who carried their containers into restaurants with family or girlfriend ,, and saw them eating and enjoying food while they were eating pieces of dry wood called chiken and some brown bloating rice,, if i had a penny for each one i would be right now sitting on million pennys,,
gh15 is there so there wil never be another 18 year old that fight with family and take his container into rstaurant making the waitress thikn he is crazy or mentaly disabled ,, this is for the fellass who been misguided by the ron herises ,, this is for the true bodybuilders ....the ones who actualy speak the truth!
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Haha, I remember going to McDonald's with my buddies and seeing their faces as I got out my tub with tuna sandwiches and chicken and rice. I must've looked like a fucking spastic having a tuna sandwich as everyone else was having Big Macs. ;D In my mind I was a legend, though, because of all my willpower during a cut which would "make me shredded".
Oh, brother. ;D
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It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.
Exactly, I can not believe you all fall for this bull shit. If you want real advice go to a real board. The king is truly a deceiver. That should tell you all who gh15 really is. Blows my mind you all follow a known and admitted Rat.
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Exactly, I can not believe you all fall for this bull shit. If you want real advice go to a real board. The king is truly a deceiver. That should tell you all who gh15 really is. Blows my mind you all follow a known and admitted Rat.
dont balonie around ,, do me a favour,, dont speak abotu yo udont know,, there is no deving aside from opening eyes that you dont go buyh some green top balonie junk rubish and then come cry to me ,, i put here what is legit and give best results this is why i got to whee i got ,,
if they would go by steroid boardings they would still be on hcg and clomid while taking breaks of 3 months ,, they would stil be doign 2.5 iu gh a day and think they ae thre new jason cutler coming,,
just dont balonie them thats all i ask ,, reality of mater is that most fellas on steroid boardings are supliers and with agenda ,, some of them come tehre to make money and we dont know them a from b we base on their word,, it take time to find the good ones,, and the good ones dont need you ,, the good ones cook for others ,, the good ones dont take you if they dont feel like ,, and the good ones are not NOT easy to come by
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god,if phase 4 is not coming,can you give us some hints about burners like t3,dnp and proper diuretics use?
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god,if phase 4 is not coming,can you give us some hints about burners like t3,dnp and proper diuretics use?
it come it come,, only in dif medium ,, i will let you know about it in furtue,, but it come
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Haha, I remember going to McDonald's with my buddies and seeing their faces as I got out my tub with tuna sandwiches and chicken and rice. I must've looked like a fucking spastic having a tuna sandwich as everyone else was having Big Macs. ;D In my mind I was a legend, though, because of all my willpower during a cut which would "make me shredded".
Oh, brother. ;D
you think that's bad. ;D When I was 17 I brought a tub of flank steak and a bag of cashews into a high school dance.. I went into the bathroom and would slam down my flank steak as fast as possible practically choked on that disgusting shit. I should of been trying to get one of those little sluts in the bathroom now that I thnk about it instead of waiting for the 3 hour mark to hit so it would be time for my next "meal". If I could go back in time I would of spent all my cash on dbol.
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tren according to gh was only good for cattle... at best ok to get you cut
no thai pinks, no bodybuild............... ........ just repeating whats been written bud
you will find contradictios with gh15. Personally I was very angry at him for it months back and did not like him I thought he was fake because I did not like his changing mind, I was very very angry at him for it actually and doubted him very much..but once you learn to read between the lines you realize it's all about...
TIMING!
You need to know when to run 1250mg test and when to go to 500mg test, you need to know when to build foundation on deca and dbol and basic AAS, and you need to know when it's time to run 15iu of gh to mutate. You need to know when to drop the specific bomb that applies to your level of development. For example...
rearden,stavios,no one, yourself, aka more advanced guys here= should be following recent bible, aka kits after kits of gh in the blood and lots of tren and insulin (of course) to mutate and lots of test
flinstones,swab,nosleep and all the other kidos of getbig- basic AAS and maybe little growth hormone to get solid foundation. You need a base to mutate ...of muscle and strength or you will end up disaster aka trey brewer. You work up to doses. IT's all in the timing my friend..the bible took gh15 7 years for a reason. Quality muscle, just like anything worth talking about in life, takes years....The bible is applicable to everyone.
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you will find contradictios with gh15. Personally I was very angry at him for it months back and did not like him I thought he was fake because I did not like his changing mind, I was very very angry at him for it actually and doubted him very much..but once you learn to read between the lines you realize it's all about...
TIMING!
You need to know when to run 1250mg test and when to go to 500mg test, you need to know when to build foundation on deca and dbol and basic AAS, and you need to know when it's time to run 15iu of gh to mutate. You need to know when to drop the specific bomb that applies to your level of development. For example...
rearden,stavios,no one, yourself, aka more advanced guys here= should be following recent bible, aka kits after kits of gh in the blood and lots of tren and insulin (of course) to mutate and lots of test
flinstones,swab,nosleep and all the other kidos of getbig- basic AAS and maybe little growth hormone to get solid foundation. You need a base to mutate ...of muscle and strength or you will end up disaster aka trey brewer. You work up to doses. IT's all in the timing my friend..the bible took gh15 7 years for a reason. Quality muscle, just like anything worth talking about in life, takes years....The bible is applicable to everyone.
no sleep is actualy better phsiwqe than most i seen here,, i seen hsi back picturre i think its him send me that,, his back in his weight look better than other bakcs i seen here ,, he is advanced
inregard to testosteroa,,, its all cycling of it ,,, i can make the biggest fella grow with minimal testosterona as in 250mg a week but! other things will have to increase fomr hgh to anabolics etc,, i much prefer middle eastern look of bodybuild over americano
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no sleep is actualy better phsiwqe than most i seen here,, i seen hsi back picturre i think its him send me that,, his back in his weight look better than other bakcs i seen here ,, he is advanced
inregard to testosteroa,,, its all cycling of it ,,, i can make the biggest fella grow with minimal testosterona as in 250mg a week but! other things will have to increase fomr hgh to anabolics etc,, i much prefer middle eastern look of bodybuild over americano
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and I'm the biggest kid here by far and I'm barely 19 years old. I know I joke around here blah blah blah but I'm very serious here gh15 and you know when I'm serious and joking you know me well enough...but I have more pure muscle on my frame, than steve kuclo had at my age and I'm not exagerrating either. I have grown very much in last year. My problem is I just look like shit aka soft,watery,no lines,etc. Like you said it's a good look, testosterone look is good look for intimidating other guys but it is not good for females they need to be able to see the muscle, not just know you have the muscle. I'll get you some pics when I diet down I cant even afford veet and I'm hairier than tbombz.... but I really am thick kid. I have job interview this week if I get job hopefully I can get some kigtropin this month, finger crossed
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and I'm the biggest kid here by far and I'm barely 19 years old. I know I joke around here blah blah blah but I'm very serious here gh15 and you know when I'm serious and joking you know me well enough...but I have more pure muscle on my frame, than steve kuclo had at my age and I'm not exagerrating either. I have grown very much in last year. My problem is I just look like shit aka soft,watery,no lines,etc. Like you said it's a good look, testosterone look is good look for intimidating other guys but it is not good for females they need to be able to see the muscle, not just know you have the muscle. I'll get you some pics when I diet down I cant even afford veet and I'm hairier than tbombz.... but I really am thick kid. I have job interview this week if I get job hopefully I can get some kigtropin this month, finger crossed
post a pic dude.... who cares if your not into your 'top' condition or look.... were experts here we can see if you have it under the bloofiness or not. I think its a big claim to say your the biggest kid here and not have a pic. your always talking about guys and girls just do it for urself dude, girls dont give a fuck about muscle, they care about look and if how you dress and if your handsome or not and how you carry yourself (confidence, personality) if you think muscle is the only way ur gona bag chicks ur gona get hurt because they are whores and the play the game better than any guy. i'm 511 200 clean right now and i bet i look better than u and i havent touched anything since the summer, i would never say im the biggest kid here... im 23 by the way, still a "kid" but not a teen
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post a pic dude.... who cares if your not into your 'top' condition or look.... were experts here we can see if you have it under the bloofiness or not. I think its a big claim to say your the biggest kid here and not have a pic. your always talking about guys and girls just do it for urself dude, girls dont give a fuck about muscle, they care about look and if how you dress and if your handsome or not and how you carry yourself (confidence, personality) if you think muscle is the only way ur gona bag chicks ur gona get hurt because they are whores and the play the game better than any guy. i'm 511 200 clean right now and i bet i look better than u and i havent touched anything since the summer, i would never say im the biggest kid here... im 23 by the way, still a "kid" but not a teen
Oh I'm definitely not the biggest "kid" here if your referring to "kids" being in their early twenties, I was referring to the teenagers. I do not consider 23 a kid as I just turned 19 less than a month ago.5 years kind of makes a difference :) hell I dont even look like the same person from 6 months ago .. but yes I know there is alot of guys in their early twenties who own the shit out of me on this board I am not dellusional. :)
I mean if you want you post your pic to compare, then You can send it to "thelamefalsehood" who posts here..and he can give you an honest assesment of my physique and what I look like. We have trained at the same gym before when I was still 18 years old at the time. That's the best I got for you Max
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Its all good. I have no problem posting pics i am clean though so it def wouldnt benefit me to do so right now. I wanna make sure u do things for the right reason man. U dont compete and it seems like u just want to impress girls which we all want to do too but dont be a douchebag like ross erstling and only get sleazy whores cuz ur juiced up. Let that be an extra and a gift if you will to a chick you want to fuck and never think she really loves you. Women that are only attracted to guys with impressive physiques are extremely fake and manipulative and Like i said know how to play the game better than you evrr will
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thanks, I appreciate the advice max!
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use as much as you can afford. period. - gh15 ( and common sense)
.... y u need "phase 4" ??
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Yeah flinstones ppl r crAzy. I agree with that 100% when you find the girl u truly love she wont care if your 180 and bloofy or 200 and 5 percent bf. just remeber that, and fuck the sluts in the mean time... 8)
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this whole industry is based on illusion and lies in order to make some $$
I started bodybuilding when I was 17 years old, I started watching the Kevin Levrone videos and he was one of my first inspirations when I started working out. I thought at the time that nutrition, training, sleep had to be PERFECT in order to achieve their size. I have had a lot of fights with family back then because I wouldn't go out to eat with them to restaurants, avoid family gatherings because I had to get my meals in ever 3 hours. Lots of fights with GF because I would avoid going out with her for the gym. I went out with my friends but if it didn't work around my bodybuiilding schedule I would stay home.
This all happend till I was about 18.. thankfully it didn't last very long and i didn't exacly waste too much time in my life because of this. I would waste hundreds of $ on supplements because I thought it was they key to bodybuilding, I would force my parents into buying these things and i would have constant fights in order to achieve my goals.
A little after 18 I started to use ephedrine at high doses (i didn't know any better) 75-100mg... My body changed fast and I was getting compliments left and right "you look great" "your face is very attractive" "you working out? I can see from your shoulders" etc etc.... and at that point it clicked in my head the use of substances was the key to my goals
I immediately stopped using all supplements and started to look up into steroids... my first cycle was tren ace + deca.. I didn't know any better but let me tell you I exploded in many ways using that stack.. I won't go into details but this is when/how I started to believe that the whole supplement industry were a bunch of crooks and mislead kids into pursuing their goals.
After that I started to read gh15 in 2007 and he has changed everything for me
this is why I am very loyal to him and it's not "sucking up" like many of you retards thinks. It's called appreciation and you should all thank him for what he has done as there is no one like him.. NO ONE
there is A LOT of details I have missed, but I am trying to explain in a big picture what kind of crooks, filth's, liar's there is in the bodybuilding world
thank you gh15 :)
GREAT POST!
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Nosleep is a BIG kid. Only saw back shot but honestly I got nothing on the guy. He should be competing.
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lol show the posts then...... what makes you think people only used tren when gh15 came around... its always been the number one steroid used for getting ripped, kids doing their first contests know this......
most guys will combine it with winny, that however is something that gh15 doesnt really condone much although hes mention zambons before..
your totaly missing my point......... back when we were arguing tren was the shit, gh was shouting it was garbage, only fit for cattle etc,, u musnt have been around at the time
im not disputing that some of the advice is pure gold,, but theres alot of big contradictions over the years
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I JUST TURNED 21. ONLY USING GH WHEN DIETING DOWN, OTHERWISE ITS STRANGO OR ****AAS AND CONSTANT RAMPING UP. 250MG TEST + XMG ANABOLIC.
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your totaly missing my point......... back when we were arguing tren was the shit, gh was shouting it was garbage, only fit for cattle etc,, u musnt have been around at the time
im not disputing that some of the advice is pure gold,, but theres alot of big contradictions over the years
ENOUGH OF THIS GH15 CONRADICTION BULLSHIT. ENOUGH SERIOUSLY.
NEXT PERSON THAT FUCKING SAYS THAT, ASK THIS QUESTION TO YOURSELF:
HAVE MY VIEWS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 5 OR SO YEARS?
MORE THAN FUCKING LIKELY,YOU'LL SAY YES. UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU MENTION CONTRADICTION.
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ENOUGH OF THIS GH15 CONRADICTION BULLSHIT. ENOUGH SERIOUSLY.
NEXT PERSON THAT FUCKING SAYS THAT, ASK THIS QUESTION TO YOURSELF:
HAVE MY VIEWS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 5 OR SO YEARS?
MORE THAN FUCKING LIKELY,YOU'LL SAY YES. UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU MENTION CONTRADICTION.
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Initiate phase "nosleep engage". Prepare for battle!!!
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GREAT RESPONSE, U KNOW ITS TRUE TOO.
BITCH.
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Yeah I wasn't around or atleast wasn't posting at that time... And thats bs cuz tren is the shitttt, yea theyre contradictions but the advice is still the same, and dbol is always a great compound anyway
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Yeah I wasn't around or atleast wasn't posting at that time... And thats bs cuz tren is the shitttt, yea theyre contradictions but the advice is still the same, and dbol is always a great compound anyway
the advice was tren is shit, utter garbage........... 1amp test 1 amp decca ed + 15iu gh or no bodybuild
as i keep saying, just repeating whats been said by your god,, dunno why you need to defend this so passionately
im not totaly shitting on gh, just pointing out plain facts..
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the advice was tren is shit, utter garbage........... 1amp test 1 amp decca ed + 15iu gh or no bodybuild
as i keep saying, just repeating whats been said by your god,, dunno why you need to defend this so passionately
im not totaly shitting on gh, just pointing out plain facts..
i alredy explain it in past ,, go in bible and read or ask the flisten fella i explain it 3 time already every month same thing ,, i repeat myself like a damn parot
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the advice was tren is shit, utter garbage........... 1amp test 1 amp decca ed + 15iu gh or no bodybuild
as i keep saying, just repeating whats been said by your god,, dunno why you need to defend this so passionately
im not totaly shitting on gh, just pointing out plain facts..
"but gh15 said this gh15 said that!" cmon now, your smarter than this local. read between lines and you figure it out what he meant all along, your problem is your lazy. If your lazy the bible will not make sense, put time in to read bible fully and pay attention to detail.....and in the word of mishiko milos "just think! and the answer will come" :)
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"but gh15 said this gh15 said that!" cmon now, your smarter than this local. read between lines and you figure it out what he meant all along, your problem is your lazy. If your lazy the bible will not make sense, put time in to read bible fully and pay attention to detail.....and in the word of mishiko milos "just think! and the answer will come" :)
im not lazy, im just not intrested............... .
weve always known all along as much gh as u can afford with the anabolics of your choice... whats more to say?
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im not lazy, im just not intrested............... .
weve always known all along as much gh as u can afford with the anabolics of your choice... whats more to say?
all the brit guys i know all sing from the same song sheet, altho the late 80's guys were more huge doses of test, decca, dbol and less gh,,, obv the nearer you get to today its higher gh slin and lesser doses of gear
wrong, ask disgusted. test was not in the grams like it is today in the 80's. And stop oversimplfying, do not do that to me friend. You know why? Because I was lied to be dante through "oversmilifying" when I was 16! straight to my face lied to by trop when I was 17! When I would email him personally asking for advice. Cycle for pennies reccomended a "simplifying" approach of 2 grams of test, an anabolic or two, and "maybe" some gh if it can be "afforded" ::) and dante's diet of 7000 calories a day. Do you think anyone would get there listening to that junk horesraddish? Who told me gh was secret to EVERYTHING in bodybuilding, fucken nobody until gh15. That cap look you want so badly in the baggy sweatshirt that frank sepe had and dennis newman had in the 90's. that made you look like superman through a sweatshirt! And shape better than black guy! But I find out at 19! the secret..and now have possible chance in bodybuilding. cause I now know It's all in the gh...
(http://www.bodybuilders.com/sepe7.jpg)
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lol do you really think human body looks like that on 2 grams of test and an anabolic or two and 7000 calories a day? Look at the lines! Look at the waiste! It's ALL gh, even those who cant run gh are happier now because they know reason why they wont look impressive...until gh go into mega doses so at least they can sleep at night and not worry about "oh my genetics suck" I'm not 250 7% on 750mg test and dianabol ::) and local hero I'm not really pointing this out to you I know you know this of course you know much more than me...I just dont like the lies I been fed all these years so I rant :)
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ENOUGH OF THIS GH15 CONRADICTION BULLSHIT. ENOUGH SERIOUSLY.
NEXT PERSON THAT FUCKING SAYS THAT, ASK THIS QUESTION TO YOURSELF:
HAVE MY VIEWS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 5 OR SO YEARS?
MORE THAN FUCKING LIKELY,YOU'LL SAY YES. UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU MENTION CONTRADICTION.
Give me a fucking break, a lot of us were on here listening to gh15 rants before you moved out of your mommy's house. If you knew who he really is, you'd never listen to his advice again.
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Give me a fucking break, a lot of us were on here listening to gh15 rants before you moved out of your mommy's house. If you knew who he really is, you'd never listen to his advice again.
its bigbobs or some other team nasser fagz.. with a few good nasser quotes from time to time, but most of the time its bullshit
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the advice was tren is shit, utter garbage........... 1amp test 1 amp decca ed + 15iu gh or no bodybuild
as i keep saying, just repeating whats been said by your god,, dunno why you need to defend this so passionately
im not totaly shitting on gh, just pointing out plain facts..
yes you are right that he used to say tren was garbage and for cows and it was always test deca dbol
but he injected the truth slowly slowly.. read the answer he gave to flinstones question and you will see why he gave that kind of advice in the beginning..
Long story short, he didn't want to give away "all" the IFBB pro's secrets from the get go rather inject it slowly but then he said to himself that he wouldn't go to heaven because he would still be a liar by not releaving the secrets
anyways I don't have the posting in front of me this is from what I can remember
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the advice was tren is shit, utter garbage........... 1amp test 1 amp decca ed + 15iu gh or no bodybuild
as i keep saying, just repeating whats been said by your god,, dunno why you need to defend this so passionately
im not totaly shitting on gh, just pointing out plain facts..
Im not defeding anyone icould fuckin care less. U seem to care tho. Ur fuckin stupid. Go brush ur teeth u ugly brit
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Im not defeding anyone icould fuckin care less. U seem to care tho. Ur fuckin stupid. Go brush ur teeth u ugly brit
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yes you are right that he used to say tren was garbage and for cows and it was always test deca dbol
but he injected the truth slowly slowly.. read the answer he gave to flinstones question and you will see why he gave that kind of advice in the beginning..
Long story short, he didn't want to give away "all" the IFBB pro's secrets from the get go rather inject it slowly but then he said to himself that he wouldn't go to heaven because he would still be a liar by not releaving the secrets
anyways I don't have the posting in front of me this is from what I can remember
also Notice he is very quiet about the insulin and narcotics..some things he just can't say.
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this whole industry is based on illusion and lies in order to make some $$
I started bodybuilding when I was 17 years old, I started watching the Kevin Levrone videos and he was one of my first inspirations when I started working out. I thought at the time that nutrition, training, sleep had to be PERFECT in order to achieve their size. I have had a lot of fights with family back then because I wouldn't go out to eat with them to restaurants, avoid family gatherings because I had to get my meals in ever 3 hours. Lots of fights with GF because I would avoid going out with her for the gym. I went out with my friends but if it didn't work around my bodybuiilding schedule I would stay home.
This all happend till I was about 18.. thankfully it didn't last very long and i didn't exacly waste too much time in my life because of this. I would waste hundreds of $ on supplements because I thought it was they key to bodybuilding, I would force my parents into buying these things and i would have constant fights in order to achieve my goals.
A little after 18 I started to use ephedrine at high doses (i didn't know any better) 75-100mg... My body changed fast and I was getting compliments left and right "you look great" "your face is very attractive" "you working out? I can see from your shoulders" etc etc.... and at that point it clicked in my head the use of substances was the key to my goals
I immediately stopped using all supplements and started to look up into steroids... my first cycle was tren ace + deca.. I didn't know any better but let me tell you I exploded in many ways using that stack.. I won't go into details but this is when/how I started to believe that the whole supplement industry were a bunch of crooks and mislead kids into pursuing their goals.
After that I started to read gh15 in 2007 and he has changed everything for me
this is why I am very loyal to him and it's not "sucking up" like many of you retards thinks. It's called appreciation and you should all thank him for what he has done as there is no one like him.. NO ONE
there is A LOT of details I have missed, but I am trying to explain in a big picture what kind of crooks, filth's, liar's there is in the bodybuilding world
thank you gh15 :)
Man your story is VERY VERY similar to mine.. I'm fuckin stunned how it's close lol I had the same fuckin problems.. I let my friends go cause I had to eat fuckin chicken and sweet potato lol I broke w my GF back then.. it's all the same story..
bodybuilders have to understand this.. food and training are important stuff for sure.. but u shoudl not let your life back because of it, if you wanna get big, do steroids, simple as that.. than u can achieve your goals and still life your life
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Man your story is VERY VERY similar to mine.. I'm fuckin stunned how it's close lol I had the same fuckin problems.. I let my friends go cause I had to eat fuckin chicken and sweet potato lol I broke w my GF back then.. it's all the same story..
bodybuilders have to understand this.. food and training are important stuff for sure.. but u shoudl not let your life back because of it, if you wanna get big, do steroids, simple as that.. than u can achieve your goals and still life your life
my story is VERY similar to a lot of people, I'm not surprise it's similar to your situation.. I still see and hear this now days .. kids at my gym with the "perfect diet + training" ... and looks like garbage lol..
In reality the shittier your diet is (what I mean is eating dirty food and not only clean) and training (by this I mean don't write down sets and reps and everything to the T) , the bigger , leaner , and better looking you will be... some people just have a hard time injecting this information because of all the liars, crooks and all this bullshit you read on the internet...
I feel really sorry for these fellas
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Im not defeding anyone icould fuckin care less. U seem to care tho. Ur fuckin stupid. Go brush ur teeth u ugly brit
you seem quite heated for somone who doesnt care kiddo... it seems to me somone wasnt hugged enough as a child
i cant speak for american practices, but the brit guys in the late 80's and early 90's were hammering test and anabolics in the high numbers, gh wasnt anywhere near as high as today,same can be said of slin..
all of whom ive spoke to were very open about what they got up to ( uk isnt like america in that respect, except dorian who never talked about anything)... most of us were doing the kind of thing borresson was advocating,short heavy cycles with bridges, if you knew your bodybuilding/drug history youd know this... gh and slin came into it more and more as the years went by, probly why they look so shit right now
and as far as diet goes everyone i knew or know who competes or looks good eats a standard bodybuilding diet, some indulge more than others, but the internets is the only place where crap food and irregular eating is advocated
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Long story short, he didn't want to give away "all" the IFBB pro's secrets from the get go rather inject it slowly but then he said to himself that he wouldn't go to heaven because he would still be a liar by not releaving the secrets
i find this extremely enlightened
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you seem quite heated for somone who doesnt care kiddo... it seems to me somone wasnt hugged enough as a child
i cant speak for american practices, but the brit guys in the late 80's and early 90's were hammering test and anabolics in the high numbers, gh wasnt anywhere near as high as today,same can be said of slin..
all of whom ive spoke to were very open about what they got up to ( uk isnt like america in that respect, except dorian who never talked about anything)... most of us were doing the kind of thing borresson was advocating,short heavy cycles with bridges, if you knew your bodybuilding/drug history youd know this... gh and slin came into it more and more as the years went by, probly why they look so shit right now
and as far as diet goes everyone i knew or know who competes or looks good eats a standard bodybuilding diet, some indulge more than others, but the internets is the only place where crap food and irregular eating is advocated
balonie,, if you think you get to be 250 270 290 8% with some chen and broly you are severly mistake,, hgh forgives anythingn and not only that but you MUST eat not clean MUST! you just keep on losing bodyfat and cut into your own shrink wrap condition ,,
the need of strict diet has been eliminated with hgh unless few wee before a show
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