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Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« on: December 09, 2011, 11:28:17 PM »
Phase 4 is overdue, I am sure many people are interested to  see what will be in it...But  what do people think it is going to contain?  There has been some hints of what is going to go into it, is this just being hyped up  or is GH  going to pull something extra oridinary out  of  the hat?

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 11:54:07 PM »
i think phase 4 will be about diuretics,insulin protocol etc...definitely not for the average gymrat..
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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 02:13:11 AM »
Yeah, me to, I think he working on something with an elf or two, maybe some transformations etc to show it

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 03:08:56 AM »
He said yesterday he hasn't written it because of threats he received aimed at known elves.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 03:54:22 AM »
gh15 shine so hard he make motherfuckers want kill him..

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 04:07:21 AM »
i think it has to do with insulin and ephedra

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 06:22:24 AM »
i think it has to do with insulin and ephedra

Ephedra is some crazy shit. Just started insulin a few weeks ago and with decent gh doses added to gh15 aas protocols you have some potent growth going on. Eat eat eat, look fat at night, huge and hard in the AM.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 06:24:54 AM »
Ephedra is some crazy shit. Just started insulin a few weeks ago and with decent gh doses added to gh15 aas protocols you have some potent growth going on. Eat eat eat, look fat at night, huge and hard in the AM.

What's your insulin protocol like? I won't be touching that shit for many years to come (if ever), but it's always good to have some knowledge.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 09:36:14 AM »
ephedrina  ;D

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 09:44:08 AM »
What's your insulin protocol like? I won't be touching that shit for many years to come (if ever), but it's always good to have some knowledge.

10iu pre am meal, 10 iu PW.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 09:31:02 PM »
It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011, 09:57:56 PM »
It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.

Cmon baby arnold

Don't you like God

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 11:04:40 PM »
Cmon baby arnold

Don't you like God

GH15 says some good things. I don't have anything against him personally because I don't know who he is. Sure, I have an idea about who he is but that doesn't really matter.

Anyway, my beef has never really been with GH15, although he has contradicted himself several times over the years...but we probably all do that to an extent from time to time. My beef is with the people that worship him. To start, it's annoying. Secondly, most of the people who love him seem to do so because he says "to be a big bodybuilder you have to take a lot of hormones" this is the basic premise and I don't understand how anyone can act like this is new groundbreaking news.

I remember posting articles here on getbig years ago talking about big hormone use and I was ridiculed and told I was out of my mind. I remember getting run off a few boards back in the day for that kind of talk. All I'm saying is it's not groundbreaking stuff here....it wasn't when I was posting it and it's not now. I mean I can sum it all up in a few bullet points. Anyway, you only find the young guys who have been around are the ones calling him god....the rest of us just feel he's pointing out the obvious.



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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2011, 12:40:00 AM »
It's going to be about how if you tell people exactly what they want to hear they'll follow you anywhere you go and believe anything you say.

Have you personally run his stacks?  He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2011, 01:04:14 AM »
Have you personally run his stacks?  He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.

Rearden,

I can't agree with you more. It is astonishing to me that people actually argue against GH15's advice, and I also notice a common theme among these people- they often point out irrelevant and false points to "weaken the argument." A common theme of dissent among GH15's haters is, "your wallet will go empty", or however they choose to phrase it. On the contrary, GH15 has saved me thousands of dollars in the past couple of years- thousands upon thousands. I followed phase 2 of his bible to the T, and stopped funding the industry of lies (supplements), with the exception of two things- a basic pre workout for the occasion when I am truly exhausted, and 2:1:1 recover, which gives you 100 grams of carbs and 100 grams of protein with 3 scoops and I love to use it post workout. I buy the tillapia that he suggests buy the bulk; the rice;  etc'. This leads me to the other common theme among GH15 haters: "he only promotes an obvious cause and affect: more drugs equates to better results". Gh15 talks about much more than hormones. He taught me how to eat right and he taught me to get off that site of lies (bb.c0m in short hand) which told me to never have the cheat meal and to eat chicken breast and rice. Bull shit. I retained more fat on that kind of diet than I ever have because my metabolism was as slow as Dick Cheney's. These sites promote massive lies; dangerous propaganda. Layne Norton is beyond a liar- he is a thief. He is just another part of the engine that steals so much money from the ignorant, and on a relative tangent, this is just a microcosm of the failing american economy. Do you think the stock market does not adhere to a rely upon a similar web of propaganda, fear and false hope that the supplement industry does? Many of you will immediately assume the previous statement is outlandish and false, but I can thoroughly back up my point if any of you are interested in the similarities. How many people on wall street actually know the truth about their industry and how many are pawns? How many people in bodybuilding actually know the truth about our industry and how many are peons? We are starting a movement in the name of honesty to better our fellow bodybuilder. When somebody with knowledge of the truth of the economy starts their own movement, the economy slowly gets fixed. That is how important I think GH15 is. I think he is the whistleblower that is saving this industry, and if you don't want his advice, then continue posting false arguments. Continue feeding into the propaganda machine that is the supplement industry. Feed the liar Norton and feed the owners of bb.com. Be another pawn.

I'll just continue to follow the truth. And whenever phase 4 comes out, I will laugh at the hatred that it receives, and at the same time I will follow the information to a T.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2011, 01:47:27 AM »
Smoof (best name evar),

Paragraphs. Holy shit bro!

I read it tho and agree obviously.

Gh15 is a character and of course he is flawed like any other human. But the bottom line is his advice is pure gold. Pick up the bible and be born again because the truth shall set you free!

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2011, 02:04:17 AM »
Have you personally run his stacks?  He's popular because he NAILS everything to a T. The dude tells u what to do and what will happen, and it happens.

I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.

All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.

All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 02:06:32 AM »
He said yesterday he hasn't written it because of threats he received aimed at known elves.

Thats pathetic of people to do that. Shows you what money does to people, in the quest for  it they become greedy liars and try to ruin other people.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 02:13:53 AM »
Rearden,

I can't agree with you more. It is astonishing to me that people actually argue against GH15's advice, and I also notice a common theme among these people- they often point out irrelevant and false points to "weaken the argument." A common theme of dissent among GH15's haters is, "your wallet will go empty", or however they choose to phrase it. On the contrary, GH15 has saved me thousands of dollars in the past couple of years- thousands upon thousands. I followed phase 2 of his bible to the T, and stopped funding the industry of lies (supplements), with the exception of two things- a basic pre workout for the occasion when I am truly exhausted, and 2:1:1 recover, which gives you 100 grams of carbs and 100 grams of protein with 3 scoops and I love to use it post workout. I buy the tillapia that he suggests buy the bulk; the rice;  etc'. This leads me to the other common theme among GH15 haters: "he only promotes an obvious cause and affect: more drugs equates to better results". Gh15 talks about much more than hormones. He taught me how to eat right and he taught me to get off that site of lies (bb.c0m in short hand) which told me to never have the cheat meal and to eat chicken breast and rice. Bull shit. I retained more fat on that kind of diet than I ever have because my metabolism was as slow as Dick Cheney's. These sites promote massive lies; dangerous propaganda. Layne Norton is beyond a liar- he is a thief. He is just another part of the engine that steals so much money from the ignorant, and on a relative tangent, this is just a microcosm of the failing american economy. Do you think the stock market does not adhere to a rely upon a similar web of propaganda, fear and false hope that the supplement industry does? Many of you will immediately assume the previous statement is outlandish and false, but I can thoroughly back up my point if any of you are interested in the similarities. How many people on wall street actually know the truth about their industry and how many are pawns? How many people in bodybuilding actually know the truth about our industry and how many are peons? We are starting a movement in the name of honesty to better our fellow bodybuilder. When somebody with knowledge of the truth of the economy starts their own movement, the economy slowly gets fixed. That is how important I think GH15 is. I think he is the whistleblower that is saving this industry, and if you don't want his advice, then continue posting false arguments. Continue feeding into the propaganda machine that is the supplement industry. Feed the liar Norton and feed the owners of bb.com. Be another pawn.

I'll just continue to follow the truth. And whenever phase 4 comes out, I will laugh at the hatred that it receives, and at the same time I will follow the information to a T.

See above post.

For whatever it's worth, you're talking to a guy who makes his living in the industry you seem to hate and say is full of lies. I've worked in media, with supplement companies, marketing, show promotion and everything in-between. I'll admit, there's a lot of garbage out there, and that goes for supplements and what certain people say. At the same time, it's not all garbage, not all supplements are bad, and not everything everyone says in this industry is a lie. Even you yourself don't believe everything is a lie, if you did, you wouldn't be taken the two supplements you do take.

When it comes to supplements, absolutely, most of them are not worth your time. Yes, there are some good supplements out there, but there's no supplement out there that's going to turn you into a pro bodybuilder.

When it comes to the articles written....depending on the type of article you're talking about....absolutely, there's some great information out there. At the same time, there is information that can be somewhat misleading if you don't know how to read between the lines. This is the same practice used in every marketing venture on earth. If you drink Bud Light you're not going to automatically be surrounded by 50 beautiful women, and you know this but you choose to drink Bud Light because you like it....or eat this food, or drive this car or whatever. However, when it comes to supplements, people seem to flip on a different switch in their brain....they so badly want to assume if they eat XYZ protein bar they'll look like Arnold, or they'll get the girl. What causes this thinking here and not at other places? I have no idea.

Further, you have to remember, and this is very important, extremely important....when you're writing an article for a magazine or website, or speaking on the behalf of XYZ company, you are bound strictly by the constraints of the law. No one is saying massive steroid use isn't a part of the game, but no one can openly in an official way say that it is in a manner that could be taken as promotion. Granted, the IFBB takes it too far, they hide behind a misleading veil of purity that is greater than it needs to be....but a lot of it is out of fear, and that is somewhat understandable. There are those out there who would love nothing more than to see the IFBB and bodybuilding itself nothing more than a discussion for the history books.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 02:15:08 AM »
I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.

All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.

All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.

Fair enough,  the difference is there is a strong persona about GH15 that people are attracted to and he is popular because of this. Im sure there are plenty of other guys been preaching the real information for years well before GH15 on boards etc, but obviously he has done it in a way that appeals to many people, more so than people before him as he has got a huge following.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 06:19:32 AM »
I haven't run a "stack" since 2009. I have taken pretty well everything under the sun though with a few exceptions, but all the basics and then some. I've taken massive doses, small doses and everything in-between. Stayed on for months and months and months and months at a time.

All I'm saying is that a lot of what he post is obvious, he's simply stating in a way that makes people happy and there's nothing wrong with that. On that basis I don't have anything against GH15.

All I was saying is that I've been saying the same kinds of things for years.
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It's not that what gh15 says is revolutionary, per se, it's that his insistence that the presence of drugs on a year round basis in high enough doses to be effective plus the RIGHT compounds and purity has never been stressed to the degree he stresses.

Up until gh15, we all thought that OF COURSE drugs did the job, but that genetics and training and food had bigger roles in the equation than they do.

I'm 33 and I keep bumping up the dose little by little... and now I'm finally mutating. Now I finally found my genetics? I doubt it.

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2011, 11:33:36 AM »
Smoof (best name evar),

Paragraphs. Holy shit bro!

I read it tho and agree obviously.

Gh15 is a character and of course he is flawed like any other human. But the bottom line is his advice is pure gold. Pick up the bible and be born again because the truth shall set you free!
Amen to that brother ........  gh15 is like pure gold god bless him and his crew!!

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2011, 11:38:15 AM »
his new phase is low test,,,,,,,,,,,,,


now he was advising an amp ed along with an amp of decca just the other year, as well as pink thai db

pink thais were pushed in the same way he was pushing tren, no pink thai no bodybuild, no thai no thick 3d muscle balonie


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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2011, 11:51:47 AM »
his new phase is low test,,,,,,,,,,,,,


now he was advising an amp ed along with an amp of decca just the other year, as well as pink thai db

pink thais were pushed in the same way he was pushing tren, no pink thai no bodybuild, no thai no thick 3d muscle balonie



except for the fact that tren was never pushed as the 3d look.... 

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Re: Phase 4 (Bible) Speculations
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2011, 11:58:14 AM »
except for the fact that tren was never pushed as the 3d look.... 

tren according to gh was only good for cattle... at best ok to get you cut

no thai pinks, no bodybuild............... ........ just repeating whats been written bud