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Title: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
Ron Paul has not been able to get above his solid base in the polls month after month he's been on average around 9 or so percent.  Then when the media starts making a huge deal about the racist newsletters he gets his biggest bump of the campaign...  Kinda funny shit.  What's that say about republicans?
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
Ron Paul has not been able to get above his solid base in the polls month after month he's been on average around 9 or so percent.  Then when the media starts making a huge deal about the racist newsletters he gets his biggest bump of the campaign...  Kinda funny shit.  What's that say about republicans?

Most of what was said in the newsletters was truth. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:00:01 PM
Most of what was said in the newsletters was truth. 
So some republicans are seeing the newsletter as a good thing.  Seriously, his biggest bump in the polls happened when MSM starting making a big deal about the newsletters.  There's something in that fact lol...
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:03:35 PM
So some republicans are seeing the newsletter as a good thing.  Seriously, his biggest bump in the polls happened when MSM starting making a big deal about the newsletters.  There's something in that fact lol...

many repubs are defending him on this because at some point lpthe communist left always accuses repubs of being rascits.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
many repubs are defending him on this because at some point lpthe communist left always accuses repubs of being rascits.
LOL, first you say what is in the newsletter is true then you say the bump is because they're defending Paul from being Racist...  ahahaha... you're a real fucking hoot sometimes lol..
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
LOL, first you say what is in the newsletter is true then you say the bump is because they're defending Paul from being Racist...  ahahaha... you're a real fucking hoot sometimes lol..

I'm saying that often times speaking the truth gets you called a racist.  A lot of what rp said was true and people feel it's bullshit to call him racist over what we all know are mostly true.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:10:56 PM
I'm saying that often times speaking the truth gets you called a racist.  A lot of what rp said was true and people feel it's bullshit to call him racist over what we all know are mostly true.
So he is getting a bump from people in the republican party from those who feel the newsletters are truth and like what they say and they are willing to defend him and vote for him over it.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Fury on December 22, 2011, 05:11:32 PM
Is it the newsletters or the coverage? The newsletters are within the last 48 hours while he started getting quite a bit of press a week or two ago.

I doubt most Republicans are secretly racist.  ::)
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
So he is getting a bump from people in the republican party from those who feel the newsletters are truth and like what they say and they are willing to defend him and vote for him over it.

Yes.   People really don't want mittens or newt.    Santorum and Bachmann don't have the cred.   Hunstman sadly has not taken off.   I like him.  

so RP is alternative to the RINOs
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: rachaelsnav on December 22, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
What does it say about democrats that they elected someone with ties to known terrorists?

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/barone/2008/08/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 05:21:08 PM
What does it say about democrats that they elected someone with ties to known terrorists?

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/barone/2008/08/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers

says they are smart enough to see through the right wing bullshit and know that it's irrelevent

Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Fury on December 22, 2011, 05:22:16 PM
says they are smart enough to see through the right wing bullshit and know that it's irrelevent



You really do live in some carefully concocted fantasy world. You're pretty much a child.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
says they are smart enough to see through the right wing bullshit and know that it's irrelevent




LOL.   Really straw?   Obama and ayeres are tied to the hip between his starting his political career in his living room, serving w him on Anne burg project, etc.  
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:24:31 PM
Is it the newsletters or the coverage? The newsletters are within the last 48 hours while he started getting quite a bit of press a week or two ago.

I doubt most Republicans are secretly racist.  ::)
The newsletters have been increasingly mentioned over the last few weeks, not just the last 48. 

I'm kinda shocked the left has not brought up Paul's bump in conjunction with the newsletter coverage.  I just figured it was interesting enough for a thread.  Ron Paul is not a racist.  It is kinda odd though that he bumps in the polls as he is accused of being a racist.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: loco on December 22, 2011, 05:27:01 PM
Ron Paul has not been able to get above his solid base in the polls month after month he's been on average around 9 or so percent.  Then when the media starts making a huge deal about the racist newsletters he gets his biggest bump of the campaign...  Kinda funny shit.  What's that say about republicans?

Some times the opposition's attacks on a candidate back fire. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 05:27:55 PM

LOL.   Really straw?   Obama and ayeres are tied to the hip between his starting his political career in his living room, serving w him on Anne burg project, etc.  

hopefully whatever dipshit win the Republican nomination will make it a focal point of his campaign or if you're really lucky they'll bring up your idiot CT about Obama being a secret communist who wants to collapse that nation.  That would be a sure fire winner for you right?  Game over for Obama if that secret gets out
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:29:52 PM
The newsletters have been increasingly mentioned over the last few weeks, not just the last 48. 

I'm kinda shocked the left has not brought up Paul's bump in conjunction with the newsletter coverage.  I just figured it was interesting enough for a thread.  Ron Paul is not a racist.  It is kinda odd though that he bumps in the polls as he is accused of being a racist.

Could you imagine if I ran for public office and someone saw my account here?     LOL.   
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 05:30:43 PM
The newsletters have been increasingly mentioned over the last few weeks, not just the last 48. 

I'm kinda shocked the left has not brought up Paul's bump in conjunction with the newsletter coverage.  I just figured it was interesting enough for a thread.  Ron Paul is not a racist.  It is kinda odd though that he bumps in the polls as he is accused of being a racist.

I don't thinnk RP's bump in the polls is correlated to the right wing medis dredging up this old story

RP has been steadily rising as other candidates have flamed out and this story is being dredged recently to discredit him because the right wing media strategy of just ignoring him clearly isn't working anymore
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
hopefully whatever dipshit win the Republican nomination will make it a focal point of his campaign or if you're really lucky they'll bring up your idiot CT about Obama being a secret communist who wants to collapse that nation.  That would be a sure fire winner for you right?  Game over for Obama if that secret gets out

After his Kansas speech, it's not a secret any longer. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
After his Kansas speech, it's not a secret any longer. 

it's still a secret to people who are sane
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:42:08 PM
I don't thinnk RP's bump in the polls is correlated to the right wing medis dredging up this old story

RP has been steadily rising as other candidates have flamed out and this story is being dredged recently to discredit him because the right wing media strategy of just ignoring him clearly isn't working anymore
The facts disagree with you  He jumped to his highest point ever in the polls rapidly and during the same time the newsletters have been most talked about.  He hasn't been able to really break above 10 and then he rapidly shot past that.  I check the polls daily.
 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:43:19 PM
The facts disagree with you  He jumped to his highest point ever in the polls rapidly and during the same time the newsletters have been most talked about.  He hasn't been able to really break above 10 and then he rapidly shot past that.  I check the polls daily.
 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html


the leftist/communist media attacking RP over this may be the best thing for him. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on December 22, 2011, 05:43:39 PM
Some times the opposition's attacks on a candidate back fire. 

Particularly when the public knows the attacks are bullshit.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
Particularly when the public knows the attacks are bullshit.
I think most know it's bullshit and certainly everyone who has spent even a small amount of time reading or listening to Paul.  It's impossible Paul is a racist.  But I wonder if there are 2 to 4 percent or so that saw this accusation and said, that's my candidate lol...
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: loco on December 22, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Particularly when the public knows the attacks are bullshit.

True, but that is not what I meant.  Ron Paul supporters will not stop supporting him because of these attacks.  

What I meant is that in this case there might be plenty of people out there who did not like Ron Paul before these attacks, but now believing the media and believing that Ron Paul wrote these letters will love him now and will vote for him.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:50:15 PM
I think most know it's bullshit and certainly everyone who has spent even a small amount of time reading or listening to Paul.  It's impossible Paul is a racist.  But I wonder if there are 2 to 4 percent or so that saw this accusation and said, that's my candidate lol...

the the hit jobs on everyone else - this is going nowhere.   and seriously - w the issues we face who cares?   

Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:51:31 PM

the leftist/communist media attacking RP over this may be the best thing for him. 
yea, the right is on this too, don't be silly.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
yea, the right is on this too, don't be silly.

Vanity is pimping this - I agree.   vanity is a joke. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 05:55:53 PM
CNN accused Paul of making a million dollars off of those newsletters?  LOLOLOL...  wow, that's one seriously profitable newsletter haha...  ::)
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
CNN accused Paul of making a million dollars off of those newsletters?  LOLOLOL...  wow, that's one seriously profitable newsletter haha...  ::)

I heard that too!   I was like WTF!!!   Go RP - master marketer and salesman. 

BTW - did you ever see the thread about RP investments over the years?   He beats out even the top hedge fund people.  LOL. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 06:18:10 PM
I heard that too!   I was like WTF!!!   Go RP - master marketer and salesman. 

BTW - did you ever see the thread about RP investments over the years?   He beats out even the top hedge fund people.  LOL. 
No I didn't see that but I don't doubt it.

Ron Paul got a little pissed at the CNN interview and then CNN acted shocked ::)  I don't blame him.  Blitzer did a huge segment on this and Ron Paul answered the questions in stellar fashion to the point that almost everyone that sees that interview understands.  Then Blitzer sends this bitch after him to ask all the same shit and then to chew Paul out and tell Paul that they have to ask these questions.  Fucking Bullshit, they already asked these questions and Paul answered them.  Paul was right to be pissed.  The CNN segment should have went like this, "Back in march of.. we talked to Paul about the newsletters and here's what he had to say..."  Instead they act like this had never been dealt with and Paul is not being cooperative ::)
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 06:20:32 PM
No I didn't see that but I don't doubt it.

Ron Paul got a little pissed at the CNN interview and then CNN acted shocked ::)  I don't blame him.  Blitzer did a huge segment on this and Ron Paul answered the questions in stellar fashion to the point that almost everyone that sees that interview understands.  Then Blitzer sends this bitch after him to ask all the same shit and then to chew Paul out and tell Paul that they have to ask these questions.  Fucking Bullshit, they already asked these questions and Paul answered them.  Paul was right to be pissed.  The CNN segment should have went like this, "Back in march of.. we talked to Paul about the newsletters and here's what he had to say..."  Instead they act like this had never been dealt with and Paul is not being cooperative ::)


It's all about getting Obama reelected.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 06:24:25 PM

It's all about getting Obama reelected.
I think it's just about Wolf Blizter being a complete fucking asshole.  He knew well the interview they already did and didn't even mention it.  He was happy to make this look like it's the first time they've grilled him over it on CNN.  With him, it could be over Israel that he wants to hurt Paul.  He sure was not honest here.  Someone needs to shove Blitzer up Hannity's ass. :D
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 06:28:40 PM
I think it's just about Wolf Blizter being a complete fucking asshole.  He knew well the interview they already did and didn't even mention it.  He was happy to make this look like it's the first time they've grilled him over it on CNN.  With him, it could be over Israel that he wants to hurt Paul.  He sure was not honest here.  Someone needs to shove Blitzer up Hannity's ass. :D

here. Is what is going on.    everyone knows Obama has been a disaster.   so we all know he can't run on his record of failure.   So what they are doing is trying to make any Repub look so bad an awful that despite Obama, the Repub would be worsen including RP. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 06:32:29 PM
here. Is what is going on.    everyone knows Obama has been a disaster.   so we all know he can't run on his record of failure.   So what they are doing is trying to make any Repub look so bad an awful that despite Obama, the Repub would be worsen including RP. 
I think it's actually good this stuff all gets out during the primary.  There really is an art to the timing of a scandal.  People get over it fairly quick these days. All this stuff that's coming out now will have less impact in the general.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 06:34:25 PM
I think it's actually good this stuff all gets out during the primary.  There really is an art to the timing of a scandal.  People get over it fairly quick these days. All this stuff that's coming out now will have less impact in the general.

Bro , my expectations are so low that they could accuse RP of banging a goat and I would not care. 
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 06:34:31 PM
You really do live in some carefully concocted fantasy world. You're pretty much a child.

LOL at the insecure little boy trying to call me a child

I hope the Repub nominee is stupid enough to bring up Ayers

it worked great last time
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 06:36:32 PM
The facts disagree with you  He jumped to his highest point ever in the polls rapidly and during the same time the newsletters have been most talked about.  He hasn't been able to really break above 10 and then he rapidly shot past that.  I check the polls daily.
 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

correlation does not imply causation

do you believe he is rising because people are attracted to the idea that he might be a racist
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Skip8282 on December 22, 2011, 06:50:02 PM
Dunno, but it might just coincide with the great job he's been doing in Iowa and the closeness of the upcoming events.  He's running a much stronger better oiled campaign than ever before.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on December 22, 2011, 06:59:52 PM
1. correlation does not imply causation

2. do you believe he is rising because people are attracted to the idea that he might be a racist
1.  I didn't say it did, that's why I posted for discussion.
2. I think it's possible that 2 to 4 percent of the party are and it's possible that could be related to his recent bump.  I just thougth it would be an interesting thread to see what others think.

I posted this thread knowing that this is not a smart thing to question as a Ron Paul supporter.  Just curious buddy.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2011, 07:11:42 PM
1.  I didn't say it did, that's why I posted for discussion.2. I think it's possible that 2 to 4 percent of the party are and it's possible that could be related to his recent bump.  I just thougth it would be an interesting thread to see what others think.

I posted this thread knowing that this is not a smart thing to question as a Ron Paul supporter.  Just curious buddy.

I said that it could only help in a couple of days ago and got criticized for it

Since when do Repubs or for that matter TBaggers give a shit about racism

If anything, this should get him more votes

It's clear that the impartial right wing media is trying to make an issue out of those newsletters but I don't think anyone is really paying attention.   I honestly hope there is no one who wasn't previously considering RP who "decided" based on the idea or hope that he is racist.   

I think his rise is the polls has a lot to do with the dwindling field of oppoenents and general disatisfaction by the party with their choices

whatever group it was that made Trump surge and then Bachman and then Perry and then Cain and then Newt has now come around to RP
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: howardroark on December 22, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Ron Paul has not been able to get above his solid base in the polls month after month he's been on average around 9 or so percent.  Then when the media starts making a huge deal about the racist newsletters he gets his biggest bump of the campaign...  Kinda funny shit.  What's that say about republicans?

I think many see this as the MSM kicking Ron Paul in the ribs over something that he clearly never believed in. Most people don't like when someone gets bullied around.
Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 22, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
CTer in me says that the best way to get that toothless hillbilly palin voter to support you is to show a little racism.

Paul did this by purposefully walking out of interview - drawing attention to this newsletter.  That gets the 5% of tea partiers who agree with that writing -

Most of what was said in the newsletters was truth. 

That gets their vote  ;)

Title: Re: What's this say about republicans?
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 22, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
CTer in me says that the best way to get that toothless hillbilly palin voter to support you is to show a little racism.

Paul did this by purposefully walking out of interview - drawing attention to this newsletter.  That gets the 5% of tea partiers who agree with that writing -

That gets their vote  ;)




He has my walk over hot coals, dodge bullets, deal w a hurricanem deal w a CW , vote in the primary no matter what.