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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on February 05, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pro-training/evan-centopani-animal/4265-evan-centopani-back-training-5-weeks-out-from-the-2012-arnold-classic.html
Centopani future Mr O
his worth ethic... is admirable not afraid to train hard... just like ronnie and dorian....
unlike 90% of pros nowadays .. including our current
"MR O"...
...watch this guy
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pro-training/evan-centopani-animal/4265-evan-centopani-back-training-5-weeks-out-from-the-2012-arnold-classic.html
Centopani future Mr O
his worth ethic... is admirable not afraid to train hard... just like ronnie and dorian....
unlike 90% of pros nowadays .. including our current
"MR O"...
...watch this guy
As the saying goes, "it's not what you do; it's what you get done". It doesn't matter if Centopani supposedly trains harder than Heath or "90% of pros nowadays". Heath has the Sandow; that's the bottom line.
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The guy is so nice, love his attitude and his form
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As the saying goes, "it's not what you do; it's what you get done". It doesn't matter if Centopani supposedly trains harder than Heath or "90% of pros nowadays". Heath has the Sandow; that's the bottom line.
He has it for now
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Very motivating video, made me want to go into the gym and deadlift.
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Compare that to this ...
nonsense
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Meso, are you suffering from trensomnia too? ;D
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insomnia no....
Im a nocturnal guy
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evan will be a contender for that sandow this year....
good attitude trains hard.....
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pro-training/evan-centopani-animal/4265-evan-centopani-back-training-5-weeks-out-from-the-2012-arnold-classic.html
Centopani future Mr O
his worth ethic... is admirable not afraid to train hard... just like ronnie and dorian....
unlike 90% of pros nowadays .. including our current
"MR O"...
...watch this guy
Dont bother mes they are just gonna give you the 'training doesnt matter' ect shit.
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i am all for incorporating machine in your training but i think Wolf relies on machines...i almost never see him doing free weight exercises
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i am all for incorporating machine in your training but i think Wolf relies on machines...i almost never see him doing free weight exercises
Yes I use machines AFTER free weight
Eg pull downs to finish a back workout after the rows deads and chins...
From that vid you'd never believe wolf is critiqued for having a lacking back
Watch Evan low past a lot of guys this year
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Yes I use machines AFTER free weight
Eg pull downs to finish a back workout after the rows deads and chins...
From that vid you'd never believe wolf is critiqued for having a lacking back
Watch Evan low past a lot of guys this year
EXACTLY ( or sometimes i do FW then machine then FW and end of with machine)
but most of my workout have 2-3 FW exercises in them....and i am no professional.....
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Dont bother mes they are just gonna give you the 'training doesnt matter' ect shit.
I know because that's what people want to believe because it gives them a easy way out...
Which is why that gh character is so famous he tells people what they want to hear....
But the proof is there to be seen all the guys with the thick dense muscle train hard
Eg Coleman Dorian ... In comparison to Heath and to some extent jay... The difference is clear
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I know because that's what people want to believe because it gives them a easy way out...
Which is why that gh character is so famous he tells people what they want to hear....
But the proof is there to be seen all the guys with the thick dense muscle train hard
Eg Coleman Dorian ... In comparison to Heath and to some extent jay... The difference is clear
Yeah, the difference is clear to the people who know what to look for and have a good eye for the type of thing. Everything you said is true, hit the nail right on the head.
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He has it for now
Very true, all these Evan haters are going to be shocked when he takes a sandow 8)
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He has it for now
well, yeah..what else can he do except win it "now"? ::)
nothing is promised for tomorrow...there are tons of guys who are the "gym Mr. O" or the "2 weeks out Mr. O". Heath is the current Mr. O.
evan is the tomorrow Mr. O. Than and $1 still adds up to $1.
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he should win the arnold over 1-leg branch and dex. my guess if he wins the A, he'll skip the O til 2013, doesn't have interest in doing 2 shows a year. and there is no reason to get rocked by phil, jay and kai. he's 2-3 yrs from giving phil any trouble.
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i thought i was the only idiot who still did deadlifts, lol
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deadlifts = useless. ;D :D
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Relatively strict form, but still with some explosiveness each rep. Trains hard too. Great work ethic. Reminds me of how Dorian used to train, which is a good thing. Saw the delt training video too; 80 lbs Arnold presses; this showed me that he's not into ego training; awesome. Not sure if he'll ever win the Olympia, but seems like he'll be happy as long as he knows he gave it his all.
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Dennis is the smartest trainer. He'll never get injured.
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Dont bother mes they are just gonna give you the 'training doesnt matter' ect shit.
training is the most important thing but as long as you are going to failure or beyond, it doesn't matter how much weight is on the bar. i believe the haney approach is the best way, all the benefits of going heavy without getting injuries
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For anyone to give two shits about the 'intensity' with which a pro trains is ridiculous. As if the pros owe it to themselves and the 'fans' to be 'hardcore', lmao!! What are you, 12 years old?
"take note Dennis Wolf" LOL!
I swear some of you people need to find your way out of the closet, goddamn!
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all the best physiques were built on high intensity in the gym. just saying...
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So Smellthepanties trains hard? That is one of the most surprising things out there considering he's a pro BB. What a disgrace this sport is. Good to know that he invests some time in the gym in between two "lurking in the dark" sessions. He can win the AC no doubt, he's marketable. The 'O, only if they secure him a top 6 or even 4 spot and all expenses are covered. Otherwise, why would he even bother?
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great athlete and spokesman for the sport
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all the best physiques were built on high intensity in the gym. just saying...
That's irrelevant. The real issue here is why anyone gives a shit about how a pro trains? I keep seeing this over and over, where people are "disgusted", "disappointed", "he's got no work ethic," "if he only did this and that he could be mr O" etc etc and it's weird/creepy that a grown man actually can be concerned about these things. You seem to have this idea that pros should only train to satisfy the criteria set by their schmoesfans.
"Take note Dennis Wolf" ;D
I just can't get over that line.. it's both pathetic and hilarious!!!
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probably because they feel like these pros are wasting their potential and once they got their pro card they just stopped really caring and just doing it for the money at that point. which isn't entirely out of the realm of reality considering how these pieces of shit talk about their steroid usage or non-usage.
hard to respect someone when they weigh 280 pounds and you see them curling 40 pounds for 1/4th rep "only for a pump" because they stopped trying and just resorted to abusing synthol.
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(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/78224-1/17+Jean+Pierre+Fux+photo.jpg)
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(http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/78224-1/17+Jean+Pierre+Fux+photo.jpg)
out of control waistline to the end of hi career but definetly a mass monster
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all the best physiques were built on high intensity in the gym. just saying...
they said that ronnie the coleman and dorian yates only trained heavy for the videos but in reality train like they are half asleep going thru the motions
i read online a guy trains in victor martino's gym and said he just does a few exercises with zero intensity, poses a little, and goes away and only trains like once every two weeks
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they said that ronnie the coleman and dorian yates only trained heavy for the videos but in reality train like they are half asleep going thru the motions
i read online a guy trains in victor martino's gym and said he just does a few exercises with zero intensity, poses a little, and goes away and only trains like once every two weeks
Dont believe that one.....
you cant suddenly build up the intensity to deadlift 800lbs or bb row 600lb for video
... has to be common place before
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Dont believe that one.....
you cant suddenly build up the intensity to deadlift 800lbs or bb row 600lb for video
... has to be common place before
QFT ^ 1000000000000
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Many, many people have commented on Ronnie doing deadlifts with 805 multiple times. It's not something he just did "for the camera". You don't fake intensity like that.
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pro-training/evan-centopani-animal/4265-evan-centopani-back-training-5-weeks-out-from-the-2012-arnold-classic.html
Centopani future Mr O
his worth ethic... is admirable not afraid to train hard... just like ronnie and dorian....
unlike 90% of pros nowadays .. including our current
"MR O"...
...watch this guy
Training in the gym wearing only socks on your feet is really stupid.
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lol hard training...
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT HARD TRAINING? DOING A SET OR TWO OF DEADLIFTS WITH STRICT FORM IS SOMEHOW HARD?
haahahahahhahahhah and this is supposedly the key factor in a great physique? a video of a guy doing two taxing sets of deadlifts?
TRULY MINDBENDING WILLPOWER ON DISPLAY HERE! HOW CAN HE ENDURE SUCH PUNISHMENT?
meso, you are a clown. every thread you make is about "hard work" and "real training"... who gives a shit how you pick something up and put it down? you, and people like you, get off on "training" because you have absolutely nothing else going for you in life, and have to pretend as if you're somehow great by endlessly yapping about this supposed distinction between "hard" and "lazy" trainers.
i see ten guys working out just as "hard" every time i step into the gym. most of them are kids who think that monster physiques are built from pure willpower and nothing more, thanks to loser bodybuilders who hide their pathetic lives behind the mask of the self-sacrificing ascetic. these sick souls deceive entire generations, entire cultures, into thinking bodybuilding is all about willpower, because no one would afford them any respect if they knew the truth...
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That's irrelevant. The real issue here is why anyone gives a shit about how a pro trains? I keep seeing this over and over, where people are "disgusted", "disappointed", "he's got no work ethic," "if he only did this and that he could be mr O" etc etc and it's weird/creepy that a grown man actually can be concerned about these things. You seem to have this idea that pros should only train to satisfy the criteria set by their schmoesfans.
"Take note Dennis Wolf" ;D
I just can't get over that line.. it's both pathetic and hilarious!!!
great post
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how fucking sad do you have to be to consider a video of a guy doing two work sets of deadlifts with perfect form to be threadworthy and a display of exemplary work ethic?
ffs...
btw evan seems like one of the cooler pros for sure, smart trainer. highly doubt he ever talks up his training outside the gym, and almost definitely would roll his eyes at morons like meso.
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Training in the gym wearing only socks on your feet is really stupid.
not when your deadlifting dumbass ,,it helps alot
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not when your deadlifting dumbass ,,it helps alot
Sure it does...IDIOT ::)
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That was back training part 1
part of the training .... and he did deads the day before
and even if that was the whole session it has more intensity than wolfs entire back session
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probably because they feel like these pros are wasting their potential and once they got their pro card they just stopped really caring and just doing it for the money at that point. which isn't entirely out of the realm of reality considering how these pieces of shit talk about their steroid usage or non-usage.
hard to respect someone when they weigh 280 pounds and you see them curling 40 pounds for 1/4th rep "only for a pump" because they stopped trying and just resorted to abusing synthol.
"Wasting potential", "respect", "only for a pump", "stopped trying"... you're just proving my point here. Why do you even fucking care about this shit?
WHAT.DOES.IT.MATTER.TO.Y OU.PEOPLE.HOW.DENNIS.WOL F.LIFTS.HIS.WEIGHTS???
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Sure it does...IDIOT ::)
ya im sure u could show evan a thing or 2 about deadlifting attire.
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"Wasting potential", "respect", "only for a pump", "stopped trying"... you're just proving my point here. Why do you even fucking care about this shit?
WHAT.DOES.IT.MATTER.TO.Y OU.PEOPLE.HOW.DENNIS.WOL F.LIFTS.HIS.WEIGHTS???
It's because training is sacred to them, since they have no other merit in life. And since training itself is a trivial activity, like cooking or gardening or picking rocks out of a dirt field, they have to lie to make it seem important, and get pissed off when high level bodybuilders show that you don't need these "heavy weights" or amazing "work ethics" and otherwise punch holes through the bullshit fantasies that these lowlife "trainers" build their image upon.
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why does it matter how the quarter back for the patriotss tackle
or how brazil plays football.... or how overeem fights
.... it doesnt matter per-say but we are fans giving our opinion....
if you dont have one... dont comment ...simple
relax
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i still stand by what i say wolf is a fucking lazy trainer....
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It's because training is sacred to them, since they have no other merit in life. And since training itself is a trivial activity, like cooking or gardening or picking rocks out of a dirt field, they have to lie to make it seem important, and get pissed off when high level bodybuilders show that you don't need these "heavy weights" or amazing "work ethics" and otherwise punch holes through the bullshit fantasies that these lowlife "trainers" build their image upon.
A fairly solid analysis I'd say.
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wolf may not train as hard but his back is great 4 the genetics he was given. hel always have high lats, its never going to change
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why does it matter how the quarter back for the patriotss tackle
or how brazil plays football.... or how overeem fights
.... it doesnt matter per-say but we are fans giving our opinion....
if you dont have one... dont comment ...simple
relax
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i still stand by what i say wolf is a fucking lazy trainer....
To be honest with you, I don't understand sport fans either. It's one thing to watch a game and enjoy the excitement that comes with it(I do that about once a year), but to criticize how professional athletes do their thing while you're sitting on your fucking couch is beyond me. It's the zenith of hypocrisy and douchebaggery.
Again I ask you or anyone else for that matter; how specifically does the training protocol of a drugged bodybuilder and how it's carried out affect you in any way, shape or form?
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I always lol @ guys who post here that if certain pro used different form, intensity, rep ranges, or different exercises for certain bodyparts they would have built a better physique!
I guess if they only had the average getbig gym-rat to advise them how to work out who knows how much better pro physiques would be ::)
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I always lol @ guys who post here that if certain pro used different form, intensity, rep ranges, or different exercises for certain bodyparts they would have built a better physique!
I guess if they only had the average getbig gym-rat to advise them how to work out who knows how much better pro physiques would be ::)
i agree if only someone told them about getbig
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why does it matter how the quarter back for the patriotss tackle
or how brazil plays football.... or how overeem fights
.... it doesnt matter per-say but we are fans giving our opinion....
if you dont have one... dont comment ...simple
relax
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i still stand by what i say wolf is a fucking lazy trainer....
Very poor example / logic. The football field or the octagon is where the athlete performs, showing the result of their training. That's analogous to the bodybuilder's stage, not the gym. i.e. criticisms of how bodybuilders work out is analogous to criticizing how overeem spars or works out to get in shape for a fight. Hardly any MMA fan will do this. Discussing how brazil plays fotball is analogous to discussing how the bodybuilder holds certain poses, not how they work out when at home or their intensity, form, etc. in the gym.
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Very poor example / logic. The football field or the octagon is where the athlete performs, showing the result of their training. That's analogous to the bodybuilder's stage, not the gym. i.e. criticisms of how bodybuilders work out is analogous to criticizing how overeem spars or works out to get in shape for a fight. Hardly any MMA fan will do this. Discussing how brazil plays fotball is analogous to discussing how the bodybuilder holds certain poses, not how they work out when at home or their intensity, form, etc. in the gym.
not really take shaqs free throw.... scenario....
you will hear 1000 people say he could do this or that to improve doesnt mean they all know what they are talking about.....
but people have opinions..
and my opinion is wolf is a lazy trainer.... same as flex and dillet....
and other bbers have the same opinions..... even flex wheeler when he became natural... said He doesnt know how people train without drugs.... he has said on many videos......watch me on this set or Ill cheat......
chris lund has commented on paul dillets laziness tooo
so not because these guys are huge mean they are above critique
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wolf is as lazy as shit..
IMO
and that will stand no matter what is said...
and like i said ... watch EVAN
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not really take shaqs free throw.... scenario....
you will hear 1000 people say he could do this or that to improve doesnt mean they all know what they are talking about.....
but people have opinions..
and my opinion is wolf is a lazy trainer.... same as flex and dillet....
and other bbers have the same opinions..... even flex wheeler when he became natural... said He doesnt know how people train without drugs.... he has said on many videos......watch me on this set or Ill cheat......
chris lund has commented on paul dillets laziness tooo
so not because these guys are huge mean they are above critique
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wolf is as lazy as shit..
IMO
and that will stand no matter what is said...
and like i said ... watch EVAN
We could all arrive at pretty much the same conclusions you do. I could look at a video of Flex and after careful analysis say that he's 'lazier' than average.
But I don't. Why? Because I don't give two shits and even if I did it would be pathetic to suggest that I hold the key to their greater success. If only they knew ::)
Why do you care about the way they train? You obviously had enough incentive to make this thread and that's saying a lot so don't deny it. You don't merely analyze, you also give a shit. Why?
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We could all arrive at pretty much the same conclusions you do. I could look at a video of Flex and after careful analysis say that he's 'lazier' than average.
But I don't. Why? Because I don't give two shits and even if I did it would be pathetic to suggest that I hold the key to their greater success. If only they knew ::)
Why do you care about the way they train? You obviously had enough incentive to make this thread and that's saying a lot so don't deny it. You don't merely analyze, you also give a shit. Why?
you dont give a shit.... ok thats fine
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dont try and tell me not to have an opinion
because
1. ever heard of having an opinion
2. your wasting your time
3. what you say doesnt matter to me
4. if you dont care ho pros train .... dont click the thread
make sense? :-\
5 I wont respond directly so dont bother retorting
kind regards
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you dont give a shit.... ok thats fine
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dont try and tell me not to have an opinion
because
1. ever heard of having an opinion
2. your wasting your time
3. what you say doesnt matter to me
4. if you dont care ho pros train .... dont click the thread
make sense? :-\
5 I wont respond directly so dont bother retorting
kind regards
I say cephissus analysis was pretty much dead on. I also used to somewhat care about this stuff(when I was 19)... how the pro's look, who lifts more weight, who's going to win the O, does Jay inject synthol etcetc. But once you get something else to focus on in life(education perhaps?) then bodybuilding is of marginal interest.. ESPECIALLY how they train, rofl!
I obviously didn't set out to say that you don't have a right to you own opinion which is none of my business anyway... but I'm just curious why a grown man would start a thread calling out a professional bodybuilder on the intensity he lifts with ::)
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not really take shaqs free throw.... scenario....
you will hear 1000 people say he could do this or that to improve doesnt mean they all know what they are talking about.....
but people have opinions..
and my opinion is wolf is a lazy trainer.... same as flex and dillet....
and other bbers have the same opinions..... even flex wheeler when he became natural... said He doesnt know how people train without drugs.... he has said on many videos......watch me on this set or Ill cheat......
chris lund has commented on paul dillets laziness tooo
so not because these guys are huge mean they are above critique
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wolf is as lazy as shit..
IMO
and that will stand no matter what is said...
and like i said ... watch EVAN
you obviously didn't understand what I said. Nowhere did I say pro bb's are above critique. I said how they train for their competition day (analogous to however a football player chosesto train/practice before their season or in between games) is often not cared about enough to critique.
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Many, many people have commented on Ronnie doing deadlifts with 805 multiple times. It's not something he just did "for the camera". You don't fake intensity like that.
agreed. thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pro-training/evan-centopani-animal/4265-evan-centopani-back-training-5-weeks-out-from-the-2012-arnold-classic.html
Centopani future Mr O
his worth ethic... is admirable not afraid to train hard... just like ronnie and dorian....
unlike 90% of pros nowadays .. including our current
"MR O"...
...watch this guy
U sure Wolf should take notes from Evan? ???
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/25/large/124087.jpg)
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/25/large/124096.jpg)
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how you train is far less important than how many drugs you take
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Wolf has a far better back than Craig Titus-chest Evan.
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how you train is far less important than how many drugs you take
for the time being, but it seems the guys with powerlifting backgrounds and who have trained everyday regardless, keep alot of their size into their older years.
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for the time being, but it seems the guys with powerlifting backgrounds and who have trained everyday regardless, keep alot of their size into their older years.
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training is the most important thing but as long as you are going to failure or beyond, it doesn't matter how much weight is on the bar. i believe the haney approach is the best way, all the benefits of going heavy without getting injuries
what I dont get is how do these guys you guys have energy to even train hard? I feel like shit on cycle, lethragic as all hell no way I could train until failure day in and day out. I mean maybe it's necessary past a certain point, but in order to get a good solid build is easily attainable without training hard assuming your on drugs. Steroids make your body more sensitive to weight training anyways
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ok fine you proved that entire theory wrong with one single picture of a former mr o who just got out of the hospital ::) :D
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Dorian said himself that back in the day, if he could've brought Flex back to England and trained him for a whole year, that Flex could've been Mr O. I don't believe Dorian meant that he was going to work miracles on Flex's physique. Just that he could've provided that little bit extra (physically and most of all mentally) with his training to get him over that hump. Who here would tell Dorian in his face "BS" regarding his own workout intensity and that it wasn't necessary for his success? Yes, drugs are a HUGE factor in upper-echelon bodybuilding. But I'm pretty sure there's much more to it than that.
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ya im sure u could show evan a thing or 2 about deadlifting attire.
Yes.
I'd tell him, "Put on some fucking shoes, you bloated jackass."
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"Wasting potential", "respect", "only for a pump", "stopped trying"... you're just proving my point here. Why do you even fucking care about this shit?
WHAT.DOES.IT.MATTER.TO.Y OU.PEOPLE.HOW.DENNIS.WOL F.LIFTS.HIS.WEIGHTS???
i don't care ???
you are acting as if people are losing sleep over this, rather than people just talking trash about lazy people with poor work ethic
the only one here who cares and is getting distraught over this... IS YOU :o
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Haney's back was built with 185-225 pound barbell rows.....no ego training.
These guys today couldn't carry Lee's jock strap. IMHO
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i don't care ???
you are acting as if people are losing sleep over this, rather than people just talking trash about lazy people with poor work ethic
the only one here who cares and is getting distraught over this... IS YOU :o
LOL ;D
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Training in the gym wearing only socks on your feet is really stupid.
What would you know about it, scumbag?
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What would you know about it, scumbag?
I seem to have made you particularly butthurt lately, my gimmick friend. Going from post to post and typing meaningless one-sentence insults. :-\ Hopefully things will work out for you...get well soon!
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Training in the gym wearing only socks on your feet is really stupid.
Deadlifting in socks or flat shoes is nothing new.
I`m sure he took off his shoes just to deadlift,then put them back on after he was done and moved on to the resat of his workout.
Years ago,lots of powerlifters pulled in their stocking feet or wore gymnastic shoes/slippers.
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taking shoes off for deadlifts is the final desperate act of reducing range of motion
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Deadlifting in socks or flat shoes is nothing new.
I`m sure he took off his shoes just to deadlift,then put them back on after he was done and moved on to the resat of his workout.
Years ago,lots of powerlifters pulled in their stocking feet or wore gymnastic shoes/slippers.
It was dumb back then, and it is dumb now.
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taking shoes off for deadlifts is the final desperate act of reducing range of motion
:D !!
Actually, removal of the socks is THE final last act of desperation.
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deadlifts = useless. ;D :D
2x
exept stiff leged version
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2x
exept stiff leged version
exactly. ;)
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Those chikenbreast r fake! Considering how long time he is shewing one bite like 2 minutes, no way in hell he is eating all that before the workoutsession, no way...he can barely swallow what he have in his mouth...
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Deadlifting in socks or flat shoes is nothing new.
I`m sure he took off his shoes just to deadlift,then put them back on after he was done and moved on to the resat of his workout.
Years ago,lots of powerlifters pulled in their stocking feet or wore gymnastic shoes/slippers.
my feet hurt if i try to deadlift without shoes :-\
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Those chikenbreast r fake! Considering how long time he is shewing one bite like 2 minutes, no way in hell he is eating all that before the workoutsession, no way...he can barely swallow what he have in his mouth...
and we are supposed to believe he can get 280 and 5% by only dosing 2 chicken breasts a day? ::) ::)
the filt and liar in cult are rampant